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+ <B>Olivier Thauvin</B>
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+ <I>Thu Nov 25 20:54:09 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>* Romain d'Alverny (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 18:54, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le jeudi 25 novembre 2010 &#224; 10:50 +0100, Buchan Milne a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; My point is that we should be consistent. Ie, if we start using
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; sometimes a username, sometimes a email ( and well, I must say &quot;one of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the numerous email people have&quot;, because I am pretty sure that I am not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the only one to have more than 1 email ), this will be annoying.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When we set up my.mandriva.com back in 2005, using the email address
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of login to authenticate has been a big improvement: way less
+</I>&gt;<i> contacts from people saying &quot;I forgot my username&quot; or trying to
+</I>&gt;<i> re-register with an already used email address and a different login
+</I>&gt;<i> (and then failing to do so).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In this case, it may be that the cognitive effort to remember an email
+</I>&gt;<i> address one already uses regularly is easier than the one to remember
+</I>&gt;<i> a username that one may use only to authenticate (actually, that was
+</I>&gt;<i> the hypothesis back at the time).
+</I>
+It is possible to include in catdap a way to receive a reminder about
+users informations from a email.
+
+But the usage of email as login in my.mdv also make my life harder since
+I never remember which one of my 5 emails was used (the same issue apply
+on other website). The worst happend when I had to change my email
+address because it had to disappear.
+
+User must be able to change their email address. Changing the login will
+probaby have side effect, so using email as login is probably a bad
+idea.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; We cannot use email everywhere, since some services do not support it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( svn+ssh will not accept it, no @ in username IIRC, neither would the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; current buildsystem ). And doing translation will be source of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; confusion.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, that's a drawback, but an acceptable one I think:
+</I>&gt;<i> * only for people that will use code repositories and buildsystem; that is,
+</I>&gt;<i> * you are not forced to allow user identification against a single
+</I>&gt;<i> id; what you need is just something you know identifies the user for
+</I>&gt;<i> sure (if the email unicity and ownership are both proven, that's a
+</I>&gt;<i> pretty good hint). So you can both authenticate against email/pass and
+</I>&gt;<i> login/pass (and even have several email/login for that, if they are
+</I>&gt;<i> checked against first).
+</I>
+We can ensure unicity of login on our side because we have full control,
+but nothing prevent to a company to give same email to several people,
+or to give a previously used email address to a new employee.
+
+If the account become important (sys admin, distrib manager), we then
+cannot ensure who receive the information we send.
+
+--
+
+Olivier Thauvin
+CNRS - LATMOS
+&#9814; &#9816; &#9815; &#9813; &#9812; &#9815; &#9816; &#9814;
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