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+<div>Hi Zikkle speaking here,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.</div>
+<div>Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.</div>
+<div>Are there other dutch speaking people involvedin the Mageia Marketing team. How can I donate money? How and where can I meet Mageia Marketing people in real life and not just</div>
+<div>the internet. Does the Mageia marketing team intend not only visit the FOSDEM in Brussels in February 2011, but also other kind of events. Does Mageia try to reach a broader user base than only (hardcore) nerds? Are there plans to open meeting points and demonstration rooms for showing people the Mageia-distribution. Are there plans to have a Mageia CDEES such as Ubuntu have? What are the planned release cycle of Mageia? How long will Mageia be supported by updates? </div>
+
+<div></div>
+<div>Yours Sincerely,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zikkle</div>
+<div></div>
+<div> a Dutch person interested in the Mageia marketing team</div>
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+<div>Hi Zikkle speaking here,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.</div>
+<div>Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.</div>
+<div>Are there other dutch speaking people involvedin the Mageia Marketing team. How can I donate money? How and where can I meet Mageia Marketing people in real life and not just</div>
+<div>the internet. Does the Mageia marketing team intend not only visit the FOSDEM in Brussels in February 2011, but also other kind of events. Does Mageia try to reach a broader user base than only (hardcore) nerds? Are there plans to open meeting points and demonstration rooms for showing people the Mageia-distribution. Are there plans to have a Mageia CDEES such as Ubuntu have? What are the planned release cycle of Mageia? How long will Mageia be supported by updates? </div>
+
+<div></div>
+<div>Yours Sincerely,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zikkle</div>
+<div></div>
+<div> a Dutch person interested in the Mageia marketing team</div>
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+Well try to join #mageia-marcon @ irc-freenodeChanel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 6:00 PM, <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Send Mageia-marketing mailing list submissions to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
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+or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to<br>
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+You can reach the person managing the list at<br>
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+<br>
+When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
+than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+<br>
+ 1. what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team<br>
+ (suikerstroop)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 1<br>
+Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:16:21 +0100<br>
+From: suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia<br>
+ marketing team<br>
+Message-ID:<br>
+ &lt;AANLkTinY00fS8-PNahBheU2=<a href="mailto:0KJXw4e7bvW14rJZHx-W@mail.gmail.com">0KJXw4e7bvW14rJZHx-W@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;iso-8859-1&quot;<br>
+<br>
+Hi Zikkle speaking here,<br>
+<br>
+I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information<br>
+about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with<br>
+them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+Are there other dutch speaking people involved in the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+How can I donate money? How and where can I meet Mageia Marketing people in<br>
+real life and not just<br>
+the internet. Does the Mageia marketing team intend not only visit the<br>
+FOSDEM in Brussels in February 2011, but also other kind of events. Does<br>
+Mageia try to reach a broader user base than only (hardcore) nerds? Are<br>
+there plans to open meeting points and demonstration rooms for showing<br>
+people the Mageia-distribution. Are there plans to have a Mageia CDEES such<br>
+as Ubuntu have? What are the planned release cycle of Mageia? How long will<br>
+Mageia be supported by updates?<br>
+<br>
+Yours Sincerely,<br>
+<br>
+Zikkle<br>
+<br>
+ a Dutch person interested in the Mageia marketing team<br>
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+<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3<br>
+**********************************************<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+Well try to join #mageia-marcon @ irc-freenodeChanel<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 24, 2010 at 6:00 PM, <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Send Mageia-marketing mailing list submissions to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>
+ <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+You can reach the person managing the list at<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
+than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+<br>
+ 1. what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team<br>
+ (suikerstroop)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 1<br>
+Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2010 15:16:21 +0100<br>
+From: suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the Mageia<br>
+ marketing team<br>
+Message-ID:<br>
+ &lt;AANLkTinY00fS8-PNahBheU2=<a href="mailto:0KJXw4e7bvW14rJZHx-W@mail.gmail.com">0KJXw4e7bvW14rJZHx-W@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;iso-8859-1&quot;<br>
+<br>
+Hi Zikkle speaking here,<br>
+<br>
+I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information<br>
+about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with<br>
+them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+Are there other dutch speaking people involved in the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+How can I donate money? How and where can I meet Mageia Marketing people in<br>
+real life and not just<br>
+the internet. Does the Mageia marketing team intend not only visit the<br>
+FOSDEM in Brussels in February 2011, but also other kind of events. Does<br>
+Mageia try to reach a broader user base than only (hardcore) nerds? Are<br>
+there plans to open meeting points and demonstration rooms for showing<br>
+people the Mageia-distribution. Are there plans to have a Mageia CDEES such<br>
+as Ubuntu have? What are the planned release cycle of Mageia? How long will<br>
+Mageia be supported by updates?<br>
+<br>
+Yours Sincerely,<br>
+<br>
+Zikkle<br>
+<br>
+ a Dutch person interested in the Mageia marketing team<br>
+-------------- next part --------------<br>
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+------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 2, Issue 3<br>
+**********************************************<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+<br><br>
+<div class="gmail_quote">
+<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br>
+<br><br>Today&#39;s Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team<br> (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>
+Message: 1<br>Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:17:34 +0100<br>From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br> &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the<br> Mageia marketing team<br>Message-ID:<br> &lt;AANLkTintr7=bHD07g_OrJAM+MWZgX=<a href="mailto:w7S1dgHPYpR1-o@mail.gmail.com">w7S1dgHPYpR1-o@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>Hi there,<br><br>thanks for your message! And Happy New Year, to you and everyone here!<br><br>On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 15:16, suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information<br>&gt; about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>&gt; Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with<br>
+&gt; them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>&gt; Are there other dutch speaking people involved?in the Mageia Marketing team.<br><br>I&#39;ll let the other members of the team complete.<br><br>The whole Mageia thing is still in the making. </blockquote>
+
+<div></div>
+<div>How can I play an active role in the Mageia marketing team? Is there a kind of meeting point?</div>
+<div>I would like to target not-linux users yet? </div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Questions about the mageia-distribution:</div>
+<div>- What kind of desktop environment will mageia use? KDE, XFCE, GNOME, enlightment, LXDE</div>
+<div>- choice of office package -&gt; OpenOffice, LibreOffice, KOffice, Abiword and Gnumeric</div>
+<div>- choice of system management tools</div>
+<div>- choice of file manager -&gt; Thunar, Dolphin, Nautilus or something else</div>
+<div>- choice of multi media player -&gt; Totem, Xineplayer, Mplayer, Kaefine,VLC player</div>
+<div>- choice of burning software -&gt; K3B, brasero, XFburn</div>
+<div> excuses for eventually mis typings.</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Yours sincerely,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwikkle</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>PS: I am not a great fan of using the following stuff:</div>
+<div>- Java --&gt; makes the computer slower than necessary</div>
+<div>- Mono --&gt; patented stuff</div>
+<div>- KDE --&gt; is not very stable</div>
+<div>- OpenOffice --&gt; because too many Java in it.</div></div>
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+<br><br>
+<div class="gmail_quote">
+<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br>
+<br><br>Today&#39;s Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team<br> (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>
+Message: 1<br>Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:17:34 +0100<br>From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br> &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the<br> Mageia marketing team<br>Message-ID:<br> &lt;AANLkTintr7=bHD07g_OrJAM+MWZgX=<a href="mailto:w7S1dgHPYpR1-o@mail.gmail.com">w7S1dgHPYpR1-o@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br><br>Hi there,<br><br>thanks for your message! And Happy New Year, to you and everyone here!<br><br>On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 15:16, suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information<br>&gt; about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>&gt; Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with<br>
+&gt; them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>&gt; Are there other dutch speaking people involved?in the Mageia Marketing team.<br><br>I&#39;ll let the other members of the team complete.<br><br>The whole Mageia thing is still in the making. </blockquote>
+
+<div></div>
+<div>How can I play an active role in the Mageia marketing team? Is there a kind of meeting point?</div>
+<div>I would like to target not-linux users yet? </div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Questions about the mageia-distribution:</div>
+<div>- What kind of desktop environment will mageia use? KDE, XFCE, GNOME, enlightment, LXDE</div>
+<div>- choice of office package -&gt; OpenOffice, LibreOffice, KOffice, Abiword and Gnumeric</div>
+<div>- choice of system management tools</div>
+<div>- choice of file manager -&gt; Thunar, Dolphin, Nautilus or something else</div>
+<div>- choice of multi media player -&gt; Totem, Xineplayer, Mplayer, Kaefine,VLC player</div>
+<div>- choice of burning software -&gt; K3B, brasero, XFburn</div>
+<div> excuses for eventually mis typings.</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Yours sincerely,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwikkle</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>PS: I am not a great fan of using the following stuff:</div>
+<div>- Java --&gt; makes the computer slower than necessary</div>
+<div>- Mono --&gt; patented stuff</div>
+<div>- KDE --&gt; is not very stable</div>
+<div>- OpenOffice --&gt; because too many Java in it.</div></div>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20110105/b6cf1be5/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20110105/b6cf1be5/attachment-0001.html
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+Well, mageia is fork from mandriva which is will use KDE as major DE IMHO. For not being fans i guess all DE have they own fans. So it would be no problem at all. You can find in archlinux statistic for example. Major DE they use is KDE, it list on they package statistic. I&#39;m on arch, ubuntu and mandriva. So between each distro doesn&#39;t matter which DE you use is not a problem. The important things is how to promote mageia so people will see it as a good Distro compared with the old one.<br>
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:00 PM, <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Send Mageia-marketing mailing list submissions to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>
+ <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+You can reach the person managing the list at<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
+than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+<br>
+ 1. Re: Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1 (suikerstroop)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 1<br>
+Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:10:24 +0100<br>
+From: suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue<br>
+ 1<br>
+Message-ID:<br>
+ &lt;AANLkTikqunft5uwwZUhO==<a href="mailto:KEYhUP0Y64aPNhz6ih-Jsg@mail.gmail.com">KEYhUP0Y64aPNhz6ih-Jsg@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;iso-8859-1&quot;<br>
+<br>
+When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
+&gt; than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; 1. Re: what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team<br>
+&gt; (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Message: 1<br>
+&gt; Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:17:34 +0100<br>
+&gt; From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt; To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br>
+&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt; Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the<br>
+&gt; Mageia marketing team<br>
+&gt; Message-ID:<br>
+&gt; &lt;AANLkTintr7=bHD07g_OrJAM+MWZgX=<a href="mailto:w7S1dgHPYpR1-o@mail.gmail.com">w7S1dgHPYpR1-o@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Hi there,<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; thanks for your message! And Happy New Year, to you and everyone here!<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 15:16, suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt; I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information<br>
+&gt; &gt; about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+&gt; &gt; Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with<br>
+&gt; &gt; them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+&gt; &gt; Are there other dutch speaking people involved?in the Mageia Marketing<br>
+&gt; team.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;ll let the other members of the team complete.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; The whole Mageia thing is still in the making.<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+How can I play an active role in the Mageia marketing team? Is there a kind<br>
+of meeting point?<br>
+I would like to target not-linux users yet?<br>
+<br>
+Questions about the mageia-distribution:<br>
+- What kind of desktop environment will mageia use? KDE, XFCE, GNOME,<br>
+enlightment, LXDE<br>
+- choice of office package -&gt; OpenOffice, LibreOffice, KOffice, Abiword and<br>
+Gnumeric<br>
+- choice of system management tools<br>
+- choice of file manager -&gt; Thunar, Dolphin, Nautilus or something else<br>
+- choice of multi media player -&gt; Totem, Xineplayer, Mplayer, Kaefine,VLC<br>
+player<br>
+- choice of burning software -&gt; K3B, brasero, XFburn<br>
+ excuses for eventually mis typings.<br>
+<br>
+Yours sincerely,<br>
+<br>
+Zwikkle<br>
+<br>
+PS: I am not a great fan of using the following stuff:<br>
+- Java --&gt; makes the computer slower than necessary<br>
+- Mono --&gt; patented stuff<br>
+- KDE --&gt; is not very stable<br>
+- OpenOffice --&gt; because too many Java in it.<br>
+-------------- next part --------------<br>
+An HTML attachment was scrubbed...<br>
+URL: &lt;/pipermail/mageia-marketing/attachments/20110104/99a29058/attachment-0001.html&gt;<br>
+<br>
+------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 2<br>
+**********************************************<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+Well, mageia is fork from mandriva which is will use KDE as major DE IMHO. For not being fans i guess all DE have they own fans. So it would be no problem at all. You can find in archlinux statistic for example. Major DE they use is KDE, it list on they package statistic. I&#39;m on arch, ubuntu and mandriva. So between each distro doesn&#39;t matter which DE you use is not a problem. The important things is how to promote mageia so people will see it as a good Distro compared with the old one.<br>
+<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:00 PM, <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Send Mageia-marketing mailing list submissions to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br>
+ <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+You can reach the person managing the list at<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>
+When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>
+than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+<br>
+ 1. Re: Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue 1 (suikerstroop)<br>
+<br>
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+Message: 1<br>
+Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 18:10:24 +0100<br>
+From: suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 3, Issue<br>
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+ &lt;AANLkTikqunft5uwwZUhO==<a href="mailto:KEYhUP0Y64aPNhz6ih-Jsg@mail.gmail.com">KEYhUP0Y64aPNhz6ih-Jsg@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
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+&gt; than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; 1. Re: what are the (future) plans of the Mageia marketing team<br>
+&gt; (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; ----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Message: 1<br>
+&gt; Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 15:17:34 +0100<br>
+&gt; From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt; To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br>
+&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt; Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] what are the (future) plans of the<br>
+&gt; Mageia marketing team<br>
+&gt; Message-ID:<br>
+&gt; &lt;AANLkTintr7=bHD07g_OrJAM+MWZgX=<a href="mailto:w7S1dgHPYpR1-o@mail.gmail.com">w7S1dgHPYpR1-o@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
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+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Hi there,<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; thanks for your message! And Happy New Year, to you and everyone here!<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 15:16, suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; &gt; I am new to the Mageia Marketing. Can some one give me short information<br>
+&gt; &gt; about the structure, future plans of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+&gt; &gt; Who are the Mageia Marketing project leaders. How can I get in touch with<br>
+&gt; &gt; them? What is global situation of the Mageia Marketing team.<br>
+&gt; &gt; Are there other dutch speaking people involved?in the Mageia Marketing<br>
+&gt; team.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;ll let the other members of the team complete.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; The whole Mageia thing is still in the making.<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+How can I play an active role in the Mageia marketing team? Is there a kind<br>
+of meeting point?<br>
+I would like to target not-linux users yet?<br>
+<br>
+Questions about the mageia-distribution:<br>
+- What kind of desktop environment will mageia use? KDE, XFCE, GNOME,<br>
+enlightment, LXDE<br>
+- choice of office package -&gt; OpenOffice, LibreOffice, KOffice, Abiword and<br>
+Gnumeric<br>
+- choice of system management tools<br>
+- choice of file manager -&gt; Thunar, Dolphin, Nautilus or something else<br>
+- choice of multi media player -&gt; Totem, Xineplayer, Mplayer, Kaefine,VLC<br>
+player<br>
+- choice of burning software -&gt; K3B, brasero, XFburn<br>
+ excuses for eventually mis typings.<br>
+<br>
+Yours sincerely,<br>
+<br>
+Zwikkle<br>
+<br>
+PS: I am not a great fan of using the following stuff:<br>
+- Java --&gt; makes the computer slower than necessary<br>
+- Mono --&gt; patented stuff<br>
+- KDE --&gt; is not very stable<br>
+- OpenOffice --&gt; because too many Java in it.<br>
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+<div><br>As a dutch (kandidate) member of the Mageia marketing member team,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>I would like to know if there are Dutch or Flemish members involved in the Mageia project. If so, I would like to have</div>
+<div>a meeting with them.</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Yours faithfully,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwikkle</div>
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+<div><br>As a dutch (kandidate) member of the Mageia marketing member team,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>I would like to know if there are Dutch or Flemish members involved in the Mageia project. If so, I would like to have</div>
+<div>a meeting with them.</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Yours faithfully,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwikkle</div>
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+<div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/20 Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Hi,<br><br>
+Shall we discuss briefly about this at the meeting? (today, 15:00 UTC<br>
+on #mageia-marcom on Freenode).<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Romain<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br clear="all">The meeting is at 16:00 UTC.<br><br>-- <br>Elodie / DjeZAeL<br>Utilisatrice de GNU/Linux et de Logiciels Libres<br><br>
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+<div class="gmail_quote">2011/1/20 Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Hi,<br><br>
+Shall we discuss briefly about this at the meeting? (today, 15:00 UTC<br>
+on #mageia-marcom on Freenode).<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+Romain<br>
+</font></blockquote></div><br clear="all">The meeting is at 16:00 UTC.<br><br>-- <br>Elodie / DjeZAeL<br>Utilisatrice de GNU/Linux et de Logiciels Libres<br><br>
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+<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">What do you think about all of this? Any comments or remarks?<br>
+</blockquote><div><br></div><div><div>I thinks that is a good idea and very necessary.</div><div>I agree with the rules.</div><div>I don&#39;t know about Moonmoon software but I&#39;ll see about this.</div></div><div><br>
+</div><div><br></div><div>A. Jnior</div><div>Mageia (pt_br) team.</div><div><br></div><div></div></div>
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+<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">What do you think about all of this? Any comments or remarks?<br>
+</blockquote><div><br></div><div><div>I thinks that is a good idea and very necessary.</div><div>I agree with the rules.</div><div>I don&#39;t know about Moonmoon software but I&#39;ll see about this.</div></div><div><br>
+</div><div><br></div><div>A. Jnior</div><div>Mageia (pt_br) team.</div><div><br></div><div></div></div>
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+<div><br>How can I help with translating the Mageia stuff into dutch.</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Greetz,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwikkle</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwik<br></div>
+<div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/5 <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span><br>
+<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">Send Mageia-marketing mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
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+<br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:11:31 +0200<br>From: Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<a href="mailto:molch.b@googlemail.com" target="_blank">molch.b@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br> &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:BANLkTikpqmGfyCzQDdE66dFsDpw3KUruBw@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">BANLkTikpqmGfyCzQDdE66dFsDpw3KUruBw@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br><br>2011/4/5 Patricia Fraser &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;:<br>
+&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Comments inside:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Thanks Wobo... now, you got any way of magicking up some more people<br>&gt; to do it? 8-)<br><br>To do what?<br>Translators and local spreaders are the same and they are ready to go.<br>
+<br>--<br>wobo<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br><br><br>End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4<br>**********************************************<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+<div><br>How can I help with translating the Mageia stuff into dutch.</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Greetz,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwikkle</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwik<br></div>
+<div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/5 <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span><br>
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+<br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br><br><br>Today&#39;s Topics:<br><br> 1. Re: Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release (Wolfgang Bornath)<br>
+<br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 10:11:31 +0200<br>From: Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<a href="mailto:molch.b@googlemail.com" target="_blank">molch.b@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br> &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:BANLkTikpqmGfyCzQDdE66dFsDpw3KUruBw@mail.gmail.com" target="_blank">BANLkTikpqmGfyCzQDdE66dFsDpw3KUruBw@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8<br><br>2011/4/5 Patricia Fraser &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;:<br>
+&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; Comments inside:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Thanks Wobo... now, you got any way of magicking up some more people<br>&gt; to do it? 8-)<br><br>To do what?<br>Translators and local spreaders are the same and they are ready to go.<br>
+<br>--<br>wobo<br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br><br><br>End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 4<br>**********************************************<br>
+</blockquote></div><br>
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+ 1. test days announce on the blog (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+<br>
+----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 1<br>
+Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 11:49:49 +0200<br>
+From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br>
+ &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;BANLkTi=XjbG=8hn1oqmSwgqSCsHXGG3=<a href="mailto:Pw@mail.gmail.com">Pw@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>
+<br>
+Hi there,<br>
+<br>
+[...]<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+2 test days are organized on 11th and 12th of April, focused on beta 1<br>
+ISOs and following targets:<br>
+<br>
+- list of included softwares in ISOs and repositories: file a bug if<br>
+you see one missing and explain why we should add it;<br>
+- upgrade from Mandriva Linux 2010.1 and 2010.2: our target is to<br>
+have easy upgrade for final release. Tests are really important.<br>
+Please have a look on the upgrade test page;<br></blockquote><div><br><br>I agree with the remark, that test are indeed important. <br>I think it is important to let&#39;s choose, what kind of apps, software, packages people are like to use before<br>
+asking them about partioning of the hard drive. To figure out what the best partition scheme is, is not the most easiest task.<br><br>Further the functionality mass renaming should be added by the PCManfilemanager. The same functionality thunar in XFCE has.<br>
+</div><div><br><br>Zwikkle <br></div></div><br>
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+ 1. test days announce on the blog (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+<br>
+----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 1<br>
+Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 11:49:49 +0200<br>
+From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br>
+ &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] test days announce on the blog<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;BANLkTi=XjbG=8hn1oqmSwgqSCsHXGG3=<a href="mailto:Pw@mail.gmail.com">Pw@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>
+<br>
+Hi there,<br>
+<br>
+[...]<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+2 test days are organized on 11th and 12th of April, focused on beta 1<br>
+ISOs and following targets:<br>
+<br>
+- list of included softwares in ISOs and repositories: file a bug if<br>
+you see one missing and explain why we should add it;<br>
+- upgrade from Mandriva Linux 2010.1 and 2010.2: our target is to<br>
+have easy upgrade for final release. Tests are really important.<br>
+Please have a look on the upgrade test page;<br></blockquote><div><br><br>I agree with the remark, that test are indeed important. <br>I think it is important to let&#39;s choose, what kind of apps, software, packages people are like to use before<br>
+asking them about partioning of the hard drive. To figure out what the best partition scheme is, is not the most easiest task.<br><br>Further the functionality mass renaming should be added by the PCManfilemanager. The same functionality thunar in XFCE has.<br>
+</div><div><br><br>Zwikkle <br></div></div><br>
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+<br><br>
+<div class="gmail_quote">
+<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote"> 2. Re: Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13; installation of<br> Mageia (Patricia Fraser)<br> 3. Re: test days announce on the blog (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br>
+ 4. Re: test days announce on the blog (Wolfgang Bornath)<br> 5. Re: test days announce on the blog (Anne nicolas)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br><br><br>Message: 2<br>
+Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 01:05:42 +0200<br>From: Patricia Fraser &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;<br>To: <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue<br>
+ 13; installation of Mageia<br>Message-ID: &lt;20110408010542.00003175@unknown&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;us-ascii&quot;<br><br>Hi Zwikkle,<br><br><br>&gt; I agree with the remark, that test are indeed important.<br>
+&gt; I think it is important to let&#39;s choose, what kind of apps, software,<br>&gt; packages people are like to use before<br>&gt; asking them about partioning of the hard drive. To figure out what<br>&gt; the best partition scheme is, is not the most easiest task.<br>
+&gt;<br>&gt; Further the functionality mass renaming should be added by the<br>&gt; PCManfilemanager. The same functionality thunar in XFCE has.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Zwikkle<br><br><br>This is really not the he best place for this report - the devel list<br>
+would be better. Nothing is going to happen as a result of<br>bugreports/wish lists sent to the marketing list.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>--<br>Patricia Fraser<br></blockquote>
+<div>How can I reach the devel list. I am not a developer. I am interested in good package selection. I am interested which packages will</div>
+<div>be selected in the standard installation.What will be the release cycle of Mageia. How long will the first stable release of Mageia be supported by updates.</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Further I like to know what kind of promotion material is available for the spread of Mageia. What kind of adds the Mageia marketing team is intended to place in magazines. What kind of atomosphere would Mageia like to show to people. Personally, I am thinking of the slogan: &quot;Get inspiredat Mageian way.&quot; Mageia should be something to inspire individual people and organisations.</div>
+
+<div></div>
+<div>greetz,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwikkle</div></div>
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+<div class="gmail_quote">
+<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote"> 2. Re: Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 13; installation of<br> Mageia (Patricia Fraser)<br> 3. Re: test days announce on the blog (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br>
+ 4. Re: test days announce on the blog (Wolfgang Bornath)<br> 5. Re: test days announce on the blog (Anne nicolas)<br><br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br><br><br>Message: 2<br>
+Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 01:05:42 +0200<br>From: Patricia Fraser &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;<br>To: <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue<br>
+ 13; installation of Mageia<br>Message-ID: &lt;20110408010542.00003175@unknown&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;us-ascii&quot;<br><br>Hi Zwikkle,<br><br><br>&gt; I agree with the remark, that test are indeed important.<br>
+&gt; I think it is important to let&#39;s choose, what kind of apps, software,<br>&gt; packages people are like to use before<br>&gt; asking them about partioning of the hard drive. To figure out what<br>&gt; the best partition scheme is, is not the most easiest task.<br>
+&gt;<br>&gt; Further the functionality mass renaming should be added by the<br>&gt; PCManfilemanager. The same functionality thunar in XFCE has.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Zwikkle<br><br><br>This is really not the he best place for this report - the devel list<br>
+would be better. Nothing is going to happen as a result of<br>bugreports/wish lists sent to the marketing list.<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>--<br>Patricia Fraser<br></blockquote>
+<div>How can I reach the devel list. I am not a developer. I am interested in good package selection. I am interested which packages will</div>
+<div>be selected in the standard installation.What will be the release cycle of Mageia. How long will the first stable release of Mageia be supported by updates.</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Further I like to know what kind of promotion material is available for the spread of Mageia. What kind of adds the Mageia marketing team is intended to place in magazines. What kind of atomosphere would Mageia like to show to people. Personally, I am thinking of the slogan: &quot;Get inspiredat Mageian way.&quot; Mageia should be something to inspire individual people and organisations.</div>
+
+<div></div>
+<div>greetz,</div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Zwikkle</div></div>
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+<div>I designed my own alfabet. These are SVG-files. Where can I upload my files. Perhaps I can make them up in the right text and</div>
+<div>transform them into PDF. </div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Greetz Zwikkle<br><br></div>
+<div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/11 <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span><br>
+<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">Send Mageia-marketing mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br><br><br>Today&#39;s Topics:<br><br> 1. PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono (Damien Lallement)<br>
+<br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:12:11 +0200<br>From: Damien Lallement &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia@damsweb.net">mageia@damsweb.net</a>&gt;<br>
+To: <a href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org">mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a>, <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>Subject: [Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:4DA2B7DB.9060304@damsweb.net">4DA2B7DB.9060304@damsweb.net</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br><br>Hello artwork and marketing team,<br><br>For a lot of incoming events, Mageia.Org will have a kakemono to spread<br>
+Mageia to people on events booths. For this kakemono, I need a file with<br>the following requirements:<br>- PDF file.<br>- 80 cm x 200 cm for the visual (this size exactly!).<br>- something easy to read and easy to understand to explain Mageia.Org<br>
+and Mageia.<br>- something quite generic to be easily reusable in the coming years.<br><br>Please send your proposals by replying to this mail.<br>Deadline for the PDF is: Monday the 18th of April.<br><br>Cheers,<br>--<br>
+Damien Lallement<br>aka &quot;damsweb&quot; or &quot;coincoin&quot; on IRC and twitter<br><br><a href="http://www.mageia.org/" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br><br>End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 17<br>***********************************************<br></blockquote></div><br>
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+<div>I designed my own alfabet. These are SVG-files. Where can I upload my files. Perhaps I can make them up in the right text and</div>
+<div>transform them into PDF. </div>
+<div></div>
+<div>Greetz Zwikkle<br><br></div>
+<div class="gmail_quote">2011/4/11 <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span><br>
+<blockquote style="BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">Send Mageia-marketing mailing list submissions to<br> <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br> <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>or, via email, send a message with subject or body &#39;help&#39; to<br>
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a><br><br>You can reach the person managing the list at<br> <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-owner@mageia.org</a><br>
+<br>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br>than &quot;Re: Contents of Mageia-marketing digest...&quot;<br><br><br>Today&#39;s Topics:<br><br> 1. PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono (Damien Lallement)<br>
+<br><br>----------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br>Message: 1<br>Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:12:11 +0200<br>From: Damien Lallement &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia@damsweb.net">mageia@damsweb.net</a>&gt;<br>
+To: <a href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org">mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a>, <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>Subject: [Mageia-marketing] PDF file needed for a Mageia kakemono<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:4DA2B7DB.9060304@damsweb.net">4DA2B7DB.9060304@damsweb.net</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed<br><br>Hello artwork and marketing team,<br><br>For a lot of incoming events, Mageia.Org will have a kakemono to spread<br>
+Mageia to people on events booths. For this kakemono, I need a file with<br>the following requirements:<br>- PDF file.<br>- 80 cm x 200 cm for the visual (this size exactly!).<br>- something easy to read and easy to understand to explain Mageia.Org<br>
+and Mageia.<br>- something quite generic to be easily reusable in the coming years.<br><br>Please send your proposals by replying to this mail.<br>Deadline for the PDF is: Monday the 18th of April.<br><br>Cheers,<br>--<br>
+Damien Lallement<br>aka &quot;damsweb&quot; or &quot;coincoin&quot; on IRC and twitter<br><br><a href="http://www.mageia.org/" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br><br>End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 6, Issue 17<br>***********************************************<br></blockquote></div><br>
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+----Messaggio originale----<br>Da: rdalverny@gmail.com<br>Data: 19-apr-2011 10.07<br>A: "Mageia marketing team discussion list"&lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt;<br>Ogg: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people<br><br>On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 00:51, Romain d'Alverny &lt;rdalverny@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 00:00, Marcello Anni &lt;marcello.anni@alice.it&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;&gt; as i have already told you in the previous e-mail, i think we first need to<br>&gt;&gt; setup a complete marketing plan that will driver our everyday action.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Very little things in life go "by the plan". It does not mean plans<br>&gt; are useless but that we need to know when to start/change things/plans<br>&gt; - that's culture.<br><br>Just to make sure. I'm not saying you shouldn't build a plan neither<br>discuss it with the team here and others. We need a plan. And your<br>draft structure looks good.<br><br>But be careful to keep it as small/focused as possible, practical with<br>clear objectives per milestones and with actual action dates (so we<br>can retro-plan, say starting with RC release - yes, that's short).<br>Both for the final release in June, and for the long term (brainstorm<br>session to design for this Summer &amp; the project per-se).<br><br>Romain<br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br>https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing<br><br></blockquote>sure, as you can see in the marketing plan we have a mid-term action plan and a short-term one. the current situation will be taken in consideration to elaborate our strategies, in both plans. naturally in the short-term action plan there will be no radical or important change, as the time is running out fast.<br><br>cheers,<br>Marcello<br><br>PS= i tried the installation of the beta 1 and it didn't install a lot of packages (among the others, kde one!), i hope live cds will be out soon!!<br>
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+----Messaggio originale----<br>Da: rdalverny@gmail.com<br>Data: 19-apr-2011 10.07<br>A: "Mageia marketing team discussion list"&lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt;<br>Ogg: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Showcasing technology and people<br><br>On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 00:51, Romain d'Alverny &lt;rdalverny@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 00:00, Marcello Anni &lt;marcello.anni@alice.it&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;&gt; as i have already told you in the previous e-mail, i think we first need to<br>&gt;&gt; setup a complete marketing plan that will driver our everyday action.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Very little things in life go "by the plan". It does not mean plans<br>&gt; are useless but that we need to know when to start/change things/plans<br>&gt; - that's culture.<br><br>Just to make sure. I'm not saying you shouldn't build a plan neither<br>discuss it with the team here and others. We need a plan. And your<br>draft structure looks good.<br><br>But be careful to keep it as small/focused as possible, practical with<br>clear objectives per milestones and with actual action dates (so we<br>can retro-plan, say starting with RC release - yes, that's short).<br>Both for the final release in June, and for the long term (brainstorm<br>session to design for this Summer &amp; the project per-se).<br><br>Romain<br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br>https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing<br><br></blockquote>sure, as you can see in the marketing plan we have a mid-term action plan and a short-term one. the current situation will be taken in consideration to elaborate our strategies, in both plans. naturally in the short-term action plan there will be no radical or important change, as the time is running out fast.<br><br>cheers,<br>Marcello<br><br>PS= i tried the installation of the beta 1 and it didn't install a lot of packages (among the others, kde one!), i hope live cds will be out soon!!<br>
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+&gt; [...]<br><br>&gt; I think ennael is on this.<br>
+<br>
+&gt; It&#39;s not so much about &quot;short on material&quot;, there&#39;s a lot which could<br>
+&gt; have been done (like nice CD/DVD labels, a nice screen presentation,<br>
+&gt; graphical flyer layout with a general text to be translated and used<br>
+&gt; in different countries, etc.<br>
+&gt;[...]<br>&gt; Romain<br>
+<br><br>I agree to this. But it should be easier to upload your stuff and to get in touch <br>of other people while designing the CDEEs.<br>As a shop worker in seconded handed CDROms for computer software, I figure out<br>
+the design of the CD wallet is very important. It should be designed in a fashion people know where Mageia is al about. I think a pictorial way of portraying Mageia is the best solution. I think Ubuntu CD wallets are great in their choice of color, but not attractive in the sense people see pictogrammes, pictures or diagrammes. I believe a nice graphical design would be a great. I have made up some lettres. Perhaps I can get into touch with some who can help us spread Mageia.<br>
+<br>I like to help translate Mageia.<br><br>What are the core keypoints or strongholds of the Mageia distribution. I figure out <br>during the social media session here in Uden (Netherlands). Social media is very important, especially Linkedin, Twitter, etcetera. There was a guy, he talked about TweetDeck. Perhaps such an application should be integrated in the Mageia distro. <br>
+I think Mageia should promote itself by social networks.<br><br><br>Yours faithfully,<br><br>Zwikkle<br><br>
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+&gt; [...]<br><br>&gt; I think ennael is on this.<br>
+<br>
+&gt; It&#39;s not so much about &quot;short on material&quot;, there&#39;s a lot which could<br>
+&gt; have been done (like nice CD/DVD labels, a nice screen presentation,<br>
+&gt; graphical flyer layout with a general text to be translated and used<br>
+&gt; in different countries, etc.<br>
+&gt;[...]<br>&gt; Romain<br>
+<br><br>I agree to this. But it should be easier to upload your stuff and to get in touch <br>of other people while designing the CDEEs.<br>As a shop worker in seconded handed CDROms for computer software, I figure out<br>
+the design of the CD wallet is very important. It should be designed in a fashion people know where Mageia is al about. I think a pictorial way of portraying Mageia is the best solution. I think Ubuntu CD wallets are great in their choice of color, but not attractive in the sense people see pictogrammes, pictures or diagrammes. I believe a nice graphical design would be a great. I have made up some lettres. Perhaps I can get into touch with some who can help us spread Mageia.<br>
+<br>I like to help translate Mageia.<br><br>What are the core keypoints or strongholds of the Mageia distribution. I figure out <br>during the social media session here in Uden (Netherlands). Social media is very important, especially Linkedin, Twitter, etcetera. There was a guy, he talked about TweetDeck. Perhaps such an application should be integrated in the Mageia distro. <br>
+I think Mageia should promote itself by social networks.<br><br><br>Yours faithfully,<br><br>Zwikkle<br><br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/17 <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+[...]<br>
+Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+<br>
+ 1. mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist<br>
+ (Patricia Fraser)<br>
+ 2. Heads-up - release stuff needs to be ready in 2 weeks<br>
+ (Patricia Fraser)<br>
+ 3. Mageia 1 release, some tasks (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br>
+ 4. Re: mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist<br>
+ (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br>
+ 5. Re: Mageia 1 release, some tasks (Patricia Fraser)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Message: 3<br>
+Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 22:30:43 +0200<br>
+From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br>
+ &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;, Mageia Web team discussion list<br>
+ &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-webteam@mageia.org">mageia-webteam@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia 1 release, some tasks<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:BANLkTin7KCL9iMmW%2BxkFioWqQa6q4Nm7Lw@mail.gmail.com">BANLkTin7KCL9iMmW+xkFioWqQa6q4Nm7Lw@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>
+<br>
+Hi there,<br>
+<br>
+[...].<br>
+</blockquote><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">For finale release... We have 15 days left and of course, this is very<br>
+
+short a frame for that. But we can do it focusing on the right thing.<br>
+<br>
+* NEED: a presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the<br>
+product - this section does not exist already, although you will find<br>
+equivalents all around the Web. Just look at some product page. Oliver<br>
+and me thought of a minimalist, focused layout with ~5 pages:<br>
+ - presentation home, main message being, &quot;this is a Linux system for people&quot;<br></blockquote><div><br>Please I would like to see it changed into &quot;It&#39;s all about the free to connect.&quot; Linux is difficult to explain to people. Linux is perceived as something for computer nerds. <br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+ - focus page for users (what do they have useful for them in this,<br>
+what benefits)<br>
+ - focus page for developers (same)<br></blockquote><div>Here you can tell it is a linux distribution <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+ - focus page for contributors (same)<br></blockquote><div>&gt;&gt;&gt; ...no comment at this moment<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+ - focus page for businesses (same)<br></blockquote><div>Here can we talk about social media, sharing knowledge, co-creating and the aspect<br>of intelllectual property rights. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+ - focus page on technical specs, requirements<br>
+<br></blockquote><div>no comment at this moment <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+* NEED: redesign the download section to which above section will<br>
+refer. For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be provided,<br>
+as these influence quite a lot how we will present things.<br>
+<br></blockquote><div><br>we need to show which package are in the default section [especially the [patentented] multimedia codecs], which is the user-functionality for a certain package. LibreOffice is for writing, presentations and making tables for presenting useful business data. We also need to have meta-packages. especialy the following fields need our attention:<br>
+- multimedia on the web [codecs, HTML5, the possibility to record videostreams &lt;streamripper&gt;<br>- social media &lt;TweetDesk&gt;<br>- security &lt;privacy, anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-phising&gt;<br>We need to cut the ISO-size as much as possible. The liveCD should have a full desktop environment on the screen within 30 seconds.<br>
+[...] <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<br>
+Romain<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+--<br></blockquote></div>greetz Zwikkle &gt;&gt; my comments on purposal Romain<br>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2011/5/17 <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org">mageia-marketing-request@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+[...]<br>
+Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+<br>
+ 1. mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist<br>
+ (Patricia Fraser)<br>
+ 2. Heads-up - release stuff needs to be ready in 2 weeks<br>
+ (Patricia Fraser)<br>
+ 3. Mageia 1 release, some tasks (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br>
+ 4. Re: mgaonline tutorial - reminder and call for assist<br>
+ (Romain d&#39;Alverny)<br>
+ 5. Re: Mageia 1 release, some tasks (Patricia Fraser)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+Message: 3<br>
+Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 22:30:43 +0200<br>
+From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br>
+ &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;, Mageia Web team discussion list<br>
+ &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-webteam@mageia.org">mageia-webteam@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia 1 release, some tasks<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:BANLkTin7KCL9iMmW%2BxkFioWqQa6q4Nm7Lw@mail.gmail.com">BANLkTin7KCL9iMmW+xkFioWqQa6q4Nm7Lw@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>
+<br>
+Hi there,<br>
+<br>
+[...].<br>
+</blockquote><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">For finale release... We have 15 days left and of course, this is very<br>
+
+short a frame for that. But we can do it focusing on the right thing.<br>
+<br>
+* NEED: a presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the<br>
+product - this section does not exist already, although you will find<br>
+equivalents all around the Web. Just look at some product page. Oliver<br>
+and me thought of a minimalist, focused layout with ~5 pages:<br>
+ - presentation home, main message being, &quot;this is a Linux system for people&quot;<br></blockquote><div><br>Please I would like to see it changed into &quot;It&#39;s all about the free to connect.&quot; Linux is difficult to explain to people. Linux is perceived as something for computer nerds. <br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+ - focus page for users (what do they have useful for them in this,<br>
+what benefits)<br>
+ - focus page for developers (same)<br></blockquote><div>Here you can tell it is a linux distribution <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+ - focus page for contributors (same)<br></blockquote><div>&gt;&gt;&gt; ...no comment at this moment<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+ - focus page for businesses (same)<br></blockquote><div>Here can we talk about social media, sharing knowledge, co-creating and the aspect<br>of intelllectual property rights. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+
+ - focus page on technical specs, requirements<br>
+<br></blockquote><div>no comment at this moment <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+* NEED: redesign the download section to which above section will<br>
+refer. For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be provided,<br>
+as these influence quite a lot how we will present things.<br>
+<br></blockquote><div><br>we need to show which package are in the default section [especially the [patentented] multimedia codecs], which is the user-functionality for a certain package. LibreOffice is for writing, presentations and making tables for presenting useful business data. We also need to have meta-packages. especialy the following fields need our attention:<br>
+- multimedia on the web [codecs, HTML5, the possibility to record videostreams &lt;streamripper&gt;<br>- social media &lt;TweetDesk&gt;<br>- security &lt;privacy, anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-phising&gt;<br>We need to cut the ISO-size as much as possible. The liveCD should have a full desktop environment on the screen within 30 seconds.<br>
+[...] <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<br>
+Romain<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+--<br></blockquote></div>greetz Zwikkle &gt;&gt; my comments on purposal Romain<br>
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+Message: 3<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 23:56:53 +0200<br>
+From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rda@mageia.org">rda@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br>
+ &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue<br>
+ 7; website - The average Mageia User<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:BANLkTimHO8YcYqxRM35NtEHtD17f0Qz5Gg@mail.gmail.com">BANLkTimHO8YcYqxRM35NtEHtD17f0Qz5Gg@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>
+<br>
+On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 21:59, suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt;&gt; ?* NEED: a presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the<br>
+&gt;&gt; product - this section does not exist already, although you will find<br>
+&gt;&gt; equivalents all around the Web. Just look at some product page. Oliver<br>
+&gt;&gt; and me thought of a minimalist, focused layout with ~5 pages:<br>
+&gt;&gt; ?- presentation home, main message being, &quot;this is a Linux system for<br>
+&gt;&gt; people&quot;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Please I would like to see it changed into &quot;It&#39;s all about the free to<br>
+&gt; connect.&quot; Linux is difficult to explain to people. Linux is perceived as<br>
+&gt; something for computer nerds.<br>
+<br>
+That may not be necessarily the goal of Mageia 1 to change that<br>
+though. We&#39;re 2 weeks into the final release, building up from scratch<br>
+a release message<br></blockquote><div><br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+Anyway, could you elaborate on the &quot;it&#39;s all about the free to<br>
+connect&quot; thing? I don&#39;t get the idea/meaning.<br>
+<br></blockquote><div>I made a mistype, I do mean &quot;it&#39;s all about the freedom to connect.&quot; I think Mageia should be about:<br>- connecting &gt;&gt;&gt; social media<br>- freedom &gt;&gt; co-creating<br>- entertainment<br>
+- usability<br>- the (user) experience<br>We have to broaden our user base. We <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+&gt;&gt; ?- focus page for businesses (same)<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Here can we talk about social media, sharing knowledge, co-creating and the<br>
+&gt; aspect of intelllectual property rights.<br>
+<br>
+That&#39;s more for contributors than businesses.<br>
+<br>
+&gt;&gt; ?* NEED: redesign the download section to which above section will<br>
+&gt;&gt; refer. For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be provided,<br>
+&gt;&gt; as these influence quite a lot how we will present things.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; We also need to have meta-packages.<br>
+&gt; especialy the following fields need our attention:<br>
+&gt; - multimedia on the web [codecs, HTML5, the possibility to record<br>
+&gt; videostreams &lt;streamripper&gt;<br>
+&gt; - social media &lt;TweetDesk&gt;<br>
+&gt; - security &lt;privacy, anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-phising&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; We need to cut the ISO-size as much as possible. The liveCD should have a<br>
+&gt; full desktop environment on the screen within 30 seconds.<br>
+<br>
+Although that&#39;s interesting, this is not the kind of need you assess<br>
+13 days before the final release. File bugs for Mageia 2 if you like,<br>
+but here it&#39;s not on the list for Mageia 1. <br>
+<br>
+Romain<br>
+<br></blockquote><div>I&#39;m not a bug tester, programmer or professional software tester. But I have tried many linux distributions. I was a great fan of Linux Mandrake, I like YAST in the old SUSE. My biggest complaint about all these distributions:<br>
+- virtual desktops are great<br>- slow loading of the desktop<br>- bad support of patented multimedia codecs<br><br>I thought and am thing now, Linux should be very quick operating system, low hardware requirements. Linux should be fun to use. Get things done easily, not difficult and frustating to use.<br>
+<br><br>Greetz,<br><br>Zwikkle <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 8<br>
+**********************************************<br>
+</blockquote><br></div><br>
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+Message: 3<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 23:56:53 +0200<br>
+From: &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rda@mageia.org">rda@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+To: Mageia marketing team discussion list<br>
+ &lt;<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt;<br>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue<br>
+ 7; website - The average Mageia User<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:BANLkTimHO8YcYqxRM35NtEHtD17f0Qz5Gg@mail.gmail.com">BANLkTimHO8YcYqxRM35NtEHtD17f0Qz5Gg@mail.gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1<br>
+<br>
+On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 21:59, suikerstroop &lt;<a href="mailto:suikerstroop@gmail.com">suikerstroop@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt;&gt; ?* NEED: a presentation section on the Web site, showcasing the<br>
+&gt;&gt; product - this section does not exist already, although you will find<br>
+&gt;&gt; equivalents all around the Web. Just look at some product page. Oliver<br>
+&gt;&gt; and me thought of a minimalist, focused layout with ~5 pages:<br>
+&gt;&gt; ?- presentation home, main message being, &quot;this is a Linux system for<br>
+&gt;&gt; people&quot;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Please I would like to see it changed into &quot;It&#39;s all about the free to<br>
+&gt; connect.&quot; Linux is difficult to explain to people. Linux is perceived as<br>
+&gt; something for computer nerds.<br>
+<br>
+That may not be necessarily the goal of Mageia 1 to change that<br>
+though. We&#39;re 2 weeks into the final release, building up from scratch<br>
+a release message<br></blockquote><div><br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+Anyway, could you elaborate on the &quot;it&#39;s all about the free to<br>
+connect&quot; thing? I don&#39;t get the idea/meaning.<br>
+<br></blockquote><div>I made a mistype, I do mean &quot;it&#39;s all about the freedom to connect.&quot; I think Mageia should be about:<br>- connecting &gt;&gt;&gt; social media<br>- freedom &gt;&gt; co-creating<br>- entertainment<br>
+- usability<br>- the (user) experience<br>We have to broaden our user base. We <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+&gt;&gt; ?- focus page for businesses (same)<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Here can we talk about social media, sharing knowledge, co-creating and the<br>
+&gt; aspect of intelllectual property rights.<br>
+<br>
+That&#39;s more for contributors than businesses.<br>
+<br>
+&gt;&gt; ?* NEED: redesign the download section to which above section will<br>
+&gt;&gt; refer. For this, we need the final list of ISOs that will be provided,<br>
+&gt;&gt; as these influence quite a lot how we will present things.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; We also need to have meta-packages.<br>
+&gt; especialy the following fields need our attention:<br>
+&gt; - multimedia on the web [codecs, HTML5, the possibility to record<br>
+&gt; videostreams &lt;streamripper&gt;<br>
+&gt; - social media &lt;TweetDesk&gt;<br>
+&gt; - security &lt;privacy, anti-virus, anti-spam, anti-phising&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; We need to cut the ISO-size as much as possible. The liveCD should have a<br>
+&gt; full desktop environment on the screen within 30 seconds.<br>
+<br>
+Although that&#39;s interesting, this is not the kind of need you assess<br>
+13 days before the final release. File bugs for Mageia 2 if you like,<br>
+but here it&#39;s not on the list for Mageia 1. <br>
+<br>
+Romain<br>
+<br></blockquote><div>I&#39;m not a bug tester, programmer or professional software tester. But I have tried many linux distributions. I was a great fan of Linux Mandrake, I like YAST in the old SUSE. My biggest complaint about all these distributions:<br>
+- virtual desktops are great<br>- slow loading of the desktop<br>- bad support of patented multimedia codecs<br><br>I thought and am thing now, Linux should be very quick operating system, low hardware requirements. Linux should be fun to use. Get things done easily, not difficult and frustating to use.<br>
+<br><br>Greetz,<br><br>Zwikkle <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<br>
+------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 7, Issue 8<br>
+**********************************************<br>
+</blockquote><br></div><br>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Hi there!</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Webteam desperately needs some help from you!</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">What we do need is some screenshots from Mageia, to be more exactly here are the specifications:</p>
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+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Waiting for them desparately in the remaining days until release,</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Waiting for them desparately in the remaining days until release,</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Hi there!</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Webteam desperately needs some help from you!</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">What we do need is some screenshots from Mageia, to be more exactly here are the specifications:</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Screens are needed of:</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- desktop (empty) for KDE, GNOME and</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- anything else you find interesting for future Mageia users.</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">It would be great if you could put them online somewhere (picasa, flickr,...) and send us the links to the mailing lists.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Waiting for them desparately in the remaining days until release,</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">What we do need is some screenshots from Mageia, to be more exactly here are the specifications:</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Screens are needed of:</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- desktop (empty) for KDE, GNOME and</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- anything else you find interesting for future Mageia users.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">It would be great if you could put them online somewhere (picasa, flickr,...) and send us the links to the mailing lists.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Waiting for them desparately in the remaining days until release,</p>
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+Hi there<div><br></div><div>Here is the discussion about release cycle. Please have a look and give any comments on mageia-dev</div><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><a href="https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-June/005442.html">https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-June/005442.html</a></div>
+<div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><br>-- <br>Anne<br><a href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br>
+</div>
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+Hi there<div><br></div><div>Here is the discussion about release cycle. Please have a look and give any comments on mageia-dev</div><div><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><a href="https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-June/005442.html">https://mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-June/005442.html</a></div>
+<div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><br>-- <br>Anne<br><a href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br>
+</div>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/strict.dtd">
+<html><head><meta name="qrichtext" content="1" /><style type="text/css">
+p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }
+</style></head><body style=" font-family:'Sans Serif'; font-size:10pt; font-weight:400; font-style:normal;">
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">(this is a copy of the mail sent to the packagers mailing list mageia-dev. I'm sending it to the marcom team too because I thing that marcom people could be fit for the job)</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Hello to everyone,</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I'm sure there's someone among you who wants to help Mageia but hasn't found </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">yet the good way to do it. Today is your lucky day, because there's a job </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">that's available and can be really useful and interesting: coordinating the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">packagers mentoring program.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">You know that one key point of success for Mageia is in the ability to welcome </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">new packagers. The better we will be at it, the better the distro will be. The </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">packagers mentoring program has been created for that reason and several </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">packagers have been or are being mentored. But we have some difficulty knowing </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">who is being mentored by who and who hasn't found a mentor. And we need also </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">to find more mentors and more apprentices.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">During a packagers weekly meeting, misc invited us to read the following </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">article about mentoring programs in open-source projects: </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/05/31/effective-mentoring-programs/</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I invite those who haven't read it yet, to read it. I'll quote one of the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">mentoring best practices that were given: &quot;In bigger projects, keeping track </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">of who is a mentor, and who is mentoring who, and inviting new mentors, and </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">ensuring that no-one falls through the cracks when a mentor gets too busy, is </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">a job of itself.&quot;</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I'm looking for someone who could fill that &quot;job&quot;.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Description of the job:</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- keep track of:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- who's being mentored by who, how well it's going</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- who needs a mentor and hasn't found one yet (this is one of the most </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">important parts: no volunteer must be forgotten, volunteers are too precious </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">!)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- who can mentor more apprentices (and sometimes convince packagers to become </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">mentors or accept one more apprentice)</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- be available for questions from apprentices or mentors, by mail, and if </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">possible, to be present on the IRC channel #mageia-mentoring on freenode</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- help mentors with gathering &quot;junior tasks&quot; (bugzilla is a never empty </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">reserve that can be used for that. Maybe ask the bug triage team to help </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">identify such tasks. Maybe a &quot;junior task&quot; keyword in bugzilla would do the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">trick)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- small bugs to fix</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- new small packages to import in the distribution</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- backports</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- promote mentoring (empower users into contributers. Working with the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">marketing team would be great I think):</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- make the mentoring program known (MLs, forums, web, etc.)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- look for new apprentices</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- look for new mentors</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Some useful skills:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- be autonomous (ie no need to check that you're doing the work)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- good written english (communication is very important in this job)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- knowledge about packaging is a plus but not mandatory (the key aspects can </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">be taught to you)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- being or having been a mentor, or having been mentored would be a plus, but </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">not mandatory</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">More information about the job:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- does not require a big amount of work, but real committment to the task and </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">regularity</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- remember that you have a coordination role, not an authoritative role. The </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">difference in that is that you're not here to give orders but to facilitate the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">mentoring program.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- you don't have to be alone to do this job if it's too much for one person: </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">you can find other helpful people wanting to help you if needed and rely on the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">other teams (but finding them is part of your job ;) ).</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- this &quot;job offer&quot; concerns everything that revolves around the mentoring of </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">new packagers, but if it's successful maybe other teams can follow the same </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">approach (i18n, QA, etc... ).</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- depending on your level of confidence, experience and will, you could be </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">helped in your work. Maybe someone from the council can supervise and help you </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">at least at the beginning; or, if no one steps up, I can help you bootstrap </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">and organize your new &quot;job&quot;.</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">So, who's in?</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">(this is a copy of the mail sent to the packagers mailing list mageia-dev. I'm sending it to the marcom team too because I thing that marcom people could be fit for the job)</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Hello to everyone,</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I'm sure there's someone among you who wants to help Mageia but hasn't found </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">yet the good way to do it. Today is your lucky day, because there's a job </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">that's available and can be really useful and interesting: coordinating the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">packagers mentoring program.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">You know that one key point of success for Mageia is in the ability to welcome </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">new packagers. The better we will be at it, the better the distro will be. The </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">packagers mentoring program has been created for that reason and several </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">packagers have been or are being mentored. But we have some difficulty knowing </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">who is being mentored by who and who hasn't found a mentor. And we need also </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">to find more mentors and more apprentices.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">During a packagers weekly meeting, misc invited us to read the following </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">article about mentoring programs in open-source projects: </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">http://blogs.gnome.org/bolsh/2011/05/31/effective-mentoring-programs/</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I invite those who haven't read it yet, to read it. I'll quote one of the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">mentoring best practices that were given: &quot;In bigger projects, keeping track </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">of who is a mentor, and who is mentoring who, and inviting new mentors, and </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">ensuring that no-one falls through the cracks when a mentor gets too busy, is </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">a job of itself.&quot;</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I'm looking for someone who could fill that &quot;job&quot;.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Description of the job:</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- keep track of:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- who's being mentored by who, how well it's going</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- who needs a mentor and hasn't found one yet (this is one of the most </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">important parts: no volunteer must be forgotten, volunteers are too precious </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">!)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- who can mentor more apprentices (and sometimes convince packagers to become </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">mentors or accept one more apprentice)</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- be available for questions from apprentices or mentors, by mail, and if </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">possible, to be present on the IRC channel #mageia-mentoring on freenode</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- help mentors with gathering &quot;junior tasks&quot; (bugzilla is a never empty </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">reserve that can be used for that. Maybe ask the bug triage team to help </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">identify such tasks. Maybe a &quot;junior task&quot; keyword in bugzilla would do the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">trick)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- small bugs to fix</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- new small packages to import in the distribution</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- backports</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- promote mentoring (empower users into contributers. Working with the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">marketing team would be great I think):</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- make the mentoring program known (MLs, forums, web, etc.)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- look for new apprentices</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">-- look for new mentors</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Some useful skills:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- be autonomous (ie no need to check that you're doing the work)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- good written english (communication is very important in this job)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- knowledge about packaging is a plus but not mandatory (the key aspects can </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">be taught to you)</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- being or having been a mentor, or having been mentored would be a plus, but </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">not mandatory</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">More information about the job:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- does not require a big amount of work, but real committment to the task and </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">regularity</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- remember that you have a coordination role, not an authoritative role. The </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">difference in that is that you're not here to give orders but to facilitate the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">mentoring program.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- you don't have to be alone to do this job if it's too much for one person: </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">you can find other helpful people wanting to help you if needed and rely on the </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">other teams (but finding them is part of your job ;) ).</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- this &quot;job offer&quot; concerns everything that revolves around the mentoring of </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">new packagers, but if it's successful maybe other teams can follow the same </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">approach (i18n, QA, etc... ).</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">- depending on your level of confidence, experience and will, you could be </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">helped in your work. Maybe someone from the council can supervise and help you </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">at least at the beginning; or, if no one steps up, I can help you bootstrap </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">and organize your new &quot;job&quot;.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">So, who's in?</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Thorsten van Lil &lt;tvl83@gmx.de&gt; schrieb am 16.06.2011</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Am 16.06.2011 15:21, schrieb Oliver Burger:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; ...&quot; where they can post without a registration etc.?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; How fast can you run, when any of the sysadmins read this? :D</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Pff, I'm not chicken-hearted. I will calm them with my charm ...</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; and tonnes of chocolate probably :D</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Stay away from public places with big fires in the middle :D</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">No, coming to the point. Some kind of form - like Wobo described - could be done relatively simple I think.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">We could make it send text-only data via mail to people in charge (marcomm?).</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I would recommend not using any automatism without moderators, because that way we might open our website to rubbish (and give some people heart attacks).</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Thorsten van Lil &lt;tvl83@gmx.de&gt; schrieb am 16.06.2011</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Am 16.06.2011 15:21, schrieb Oliver Burger:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; ...&quot; where they can post without a registration etc.?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; How fast can you run, when any of the sysadmins read this? :D</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Pff, I'm not chicken-hearted. I will calm them with my charm ...</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; and tonnes of chocolate probably :D</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Stay away from public places with big fires in the middle :D</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">No, coming to the point. Some kind of form - like Wobo described - could be done relatively simple I think.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">We could make it send text-only data via mail to people in charge (marcomm?).</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">I would recommend not using any automatism without moderators, because that way we might open our website to rubbish (and give some people heart attacks).</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Thorsten van Lil &lt;tvl83@gmx.de&gt; schrieb am 16.06.2011</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Am 16.06.2011 15:09, schrieb Patricia Fraser:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; Pls see https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=568</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; I lost track of all the ideas which were written in mails so</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; far, so I am not sure if this was already proposed.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; This is a *brilliant* idea. I wonder if we could have a forum</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; group called &quot;Mageia Saves the Day&quot; and encourage people to post</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; there? Then we could put a few recent ones on the website and</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; add a link...</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Good idea, let's see how long it needs to get this sub forum :/</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; What about a special page (like a guestbook) &quot;Stories with Mageia</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; ...&quot; where they can post without a registration etc.?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">How fast can you run, when any of the sysadmins read this? :D</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Thorsten van Lil &lt;tvl83@gmx.de&gt; schrieb am 16.06.2011</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Am 16.06.2011 15:09, schrieb Patricia Fraser:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; Pls see https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=568</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; I lost track of all the ideas which were written in mails so</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt;&gt; far, so I am not sure if this was already proposed.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; This is a *brilliant* idea. I wonder if we could have a forum</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; group called &quot;Mageia Saves the Day&quot; and encourage people to post</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; there? Then we could put a few recent ones on the website and</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; add a link...</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Good idea, let's see how long it needs to get this sub forum :/</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; What about a special page (like a guestbook) &quot;Stories with Mageia</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; ...&quot; where they can post without a registration etc.?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">How fast can you run, when any of the sysadmins read this? :D</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Hi Trish (hi others),</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">somebody posted another press review about Mga1 in the forums. Here you are:</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/06/18/mageia-1-0-review/</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Hi Trish (hi others),</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">somebody posted another press review about Mga1 in the forums. Here you are:</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/06/18/mageia-1-0-review/</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Oliver</p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+Best Mageia poeple,<div><br></div><div>I found it an useful review. I learn something new. I learn about the filesystem NILFS. I agree with the writer only fuly functional programmes should be in the Mageia distribution. Better to have less programmes in the repositories and working well than have a lot of crap packages. It is very frustating to have programmes which are not usable very well.</div>
+<div>I disagree with the point to abandon the CD-release. There should a CD-release available. Perhaps a CD-release with the XFCE-desktop. I prefer this desktop-environment above GNOME, because the great tool mass renaming in Thunar file manager. I also like E17, because it is very customizable. There should come metapackages for example multimedia-support with all the codecs and necessary plugins for Firefox, Chromium browser and other browsers integrated in it.</div>
+<div><br></div><div>GReetz,</div><div><br></div><div>Zwikkle</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">[...]<br>
+
+Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+<br>
+ 1. Another review for the list (Oliver Burger)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 1<br>
+Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:30:19 +0200<br>
+From: Oliver Burger &lt;<a href="mailto:oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Another review for the list<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:201106191930.19251.oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">201106191930.19251.oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;utf-8&quot;<br>
+<br>
+Hi Trish (hi others),<br>
+<br>
+somebody posted another press review about Mga1 in the forums. Here<br>
+you are:<br>
+<br>
+<a href="http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/06/18/mageia-1-0-review/" target="_blank">http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/06/18/mageia-1-0-review/</a><br>
+<br>
+Oliver<br>
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+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 8, Issue 12<br>
+***********************************************<br>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+Best Mageia poeple,<div><br></div><div>I found it an useful review. I learn something new. I learn about the filesystem NILFS. I agree with the writer only fuly functional programmes should be in the Mageia distribution. Better to have less programmes in the repositories and working well than have a lot of crap packages. It is very frustating to have programmes which are not usable very well.</div>
+<div>I disagree with the point to abandon the CD-release. There should a CD-release available. Perhaps a CD-release with the XFCE-desktop. I prefer this desktop-environment above GNOME, because the great tool mass renaming in Thunar file manager. I also like E17, because it is very customizable. There should come metapackages for example multimedia-support with all the codecs and necessary plugins for Firefox, Chromium browser and other browsers integrated in it.</div>
+<div><br></div><div>GReetz,</div><div><br></div><div>Zwikkle</div><div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">[...]<br>
+
+Today&#39;s Topics:<br>
+<br>
+ 1. Another review for the list (Oliver Burger)<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+----------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
+<br>
+Message: 1<br>
+Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2011 19:30:19 +0200<br>
+From: Oliver Burger &lt;<a href="mailto:oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+To: <a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Another review for the list<br>
+Message-ID: &lt;<a href="mailto:201106191930.19251.oliver.bgr@googlemail.com">201106191930.19251.oliver.bgr@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;utf-8&quot;<br>
+<br>
+Hi Trish (hi others),<br>
+<br>
+somebody posted another press review about Mga1 in the forums. Here<br>
+you are:<br>
+<br>
+<a href="http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/06/18/mageia-1-0-review/" target="_blank">http://www.linuxbsdos.com/2011/06/18/mageia-1-0-review/</a><br>
+<br>
+Oliver<br>
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+<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br>
+<br>
+End of Mageia-marketing Digest, Vol 8, Issue 12<br>
+***********************************************<br>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Best people of Mageia,<br><br>I did finally succeed in uploading my self made Apekozzi font on the internet.<br>It is originally for the use of book shelves of 2 centimetres in height. But this font<br>
+is available for free for Mageia users. It is my contribution to the Mageia distribution and community.<br><br>Greetz,<br><br>Zwikkle<br><br>website to see the Apekozzi font for yourself: <br>
+
+
+
+
+
+
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+ <p><a href="http://inkscapestuff.org/CONTENT/content-files/142905-apekozzi%20font%202011-05%20.svg">http://inkscapestuff.org/CONTENT/content-files/142905-apekozzi%20font%202011-05%20.svg</a></p>
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+<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Best people of Mageia,<br><br>I did finally succeed in uploading my self made Apekozzi font on the internet.<br>It is originally for the use of book shelves of 2 centimetres in height. But this font<br>
+is available for free for Mageia users. It is my contribution to the Mageia distribution and community.<br><br>Greetz,<br><br>Zwikkle<br><br>website to see the Apekozzi font for yourself: <br>
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+<font color="#888888">I vote for 10, for the CD. Now, do we have a label?</font><br>
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+<font color="#888888">I vote for 10, for the CD. Now, do we have a label?</font><br>
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+Hi all,<br><br>PLease contact us <br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Best Regards<br><br>William BARNEAU<br><a href="mailto:wbarneau@ekenos.com" target="_blank">wbarneau@ekenos.com</a><br>GSM: +33623722339<br><br>74 avenue des Aygalades<br>
+13014 Marseille-France<br><img src="http://www.ekenos.com/resources/logo+ekenos+detour$C3$A9.png" height="84" width="96"><br><br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.ekenos.com" target="_blank">www.ekenos.com</a></div>
+<div><br>Tel: 0495053845<br>Fax: 09 58 70 75 77<br><br><br><br></div><br>
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+Hi all,<br><br>PLease contact us <br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Best Regards<br><br>William BARNEAU<br><a href="mailto:wbarneau@ekenos.com" target="_blank">wbarneau@ekenos.com</a><br>GSM: +33623722339<br><br>74 avenue des Aygalades<br>
+13014 Marseille-France<br><img src="http://www.ekenos.com/resources/logo+ekenos+detour$C3$A9.png" height="84" width="96"><br><br><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="http://www.ekenos.com" target="_blank">www.ekenos.com</a></div>
+<div><br>Tel: 0495053845<br>Fax: 09 58 70 75 77<br><br><br><br></div><br>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20110701/30ef9612/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20110701/30ef9612/attachment-0001.html
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+<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div><br></div><div>Please do not add new proposals on that page as it&#39;s coming after deadline. We will put priority on current one. A new wiki page will collect more ideas here: <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification" target="_blank">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</a></div>
+</blockquote><div><br></div><div><a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas</a></div><div>(thanks Stormi)</div><div><br></div></div>-- <br>Anne<br><a href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br>
+
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+<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
+<div><br></div><div>Please do not add new proposals on that page as it&#39;s coming after deadline. We will put priority on current one. A new wiki page will collect more ideas here: <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification" target="_blank">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</a></div>
+</blockquote><div><br></div><div><a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=ideas</a></div><div>(thanks Stormi)</div><div><br></div></div>-- <br>Anne<br><a href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br>
+
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+Hi there<div><br></div><div>As said during our last meeting, here is the review for proposed specifications on Mageia wiki. Comments are not about we will do or not (unless it was not reasonable) but:</div><div>- ask for more information when needed</div>
+<div>- give a minimal status</div><div>- ask for discussions when we are talking a very intrusive modification</div><div><br></div><div>So please have a look on this page:</div><div><a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</a></div>
+<div>especially on comments</div><div><br></div><div>Now we need to organize work for all this. As a proposal all specs will be reported in Bugzilla with a given target so that we can follow itin coming months. You can start doing it if you are especially interested in one of them.t prio</div>
+<div><br></div><div>Please do not add new proposals on that page as it&#39;s coming after deadline. We will put priority on current one. A new wiki page will collect more ideas here: <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</a></div>
+<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><br></div><div>Of course as you cnan see all these proposals are implying packagers, QA but also artwork and marcom teams. Stay connected! :)</div><div>
+<br></div><div>If you want to comment these proposals please create one thread /proposal so that we can work on it properly. If you are interested in one of these, add your name on wiki.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div>
+<div><br></div><div>--</div><div>Anne<br><a href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br>
+</div>
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+Hi there<div><br></div><div>As said during our last meeting, here is the review for proposed specifications on Mageia wiki. Comments are not about we will do or not (unless it was not reasonable) but:</div><div>- ask for more information when needed</div>
+<div>- give a minimal status</div><div>- ask for discussions when we are talking a very intrusive modification</div><div><br></div><div>So please have a look on this page:</div><div><a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</a></div>
+<div>especially on comments</div><div><br></div><div>Now we need to organize work for all this. As a proposal all specs will be reported in Bugzilla with a given target so that we can follow itin coming months. You can start doing it if you are especially interested in one of them.t prio</div>
+<div><br></div><div>Please do not add new proposals on that page as it&#39;s coming after deadline. We will put priority on current one. A new wiki page will collect more ideas here: <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=iso2:technical_specification</a></div>
+<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><div><br></div><div>Of course as you cnan see all these proposals are implying packagers, QA but also artwork and marcom teams. Stay connected! :)</div><div>
+<br></div><div>If you want to comment these proposals please create one thread /proposal so that we can work on it properly. If you are interested in one of these, add your name on wiki.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div>
+<div><br></div><div>--</div><div>Anne<br><a href="http://www.mageia.org" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org</a><br>
+</div>
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+<p><br>
+Le 28 juil. 2011 18:44, &quot;Romain d&amp;apos;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt; a crit:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Hi there,<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; could we wrap up a status for the interviews for the blog? so we know<br>
+&gt; what we have for a next interview, if we should edit it; and if we can<br>
+&gt; dispatch questions to more people. It would be nice if we could push<br>
+&gt; 1/2 interviews (not more) in August and have something for September<br>
+&gt; as well.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Reference doc is here:<br>
+&gt; <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:interviews">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:interviews</a> (with list of<br>
+&gt; people/stacks considered).<br>
+&gt;<br></p>
+<p>I have some answers from mikala<br>
+&gt; Cheers!<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Romain<br>
+&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
+&gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+&gt; <a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+&gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</p>
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+<p><br>
+Le 28 juil. 2011 18:44, &quot;Romain d&amp;apos;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt; a crit:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Hi there,<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; could we wrap up a status for the interviews for the blog? so we know<br>
+&gt; what we have for a next interview, if we should edit it; and if we can<br>
+&gt; dispatch questions to more people. It would be nice if we could push<br>
+&gt; 1/2 interviews (not more) in August and have something for September<br>
+&gt; as well.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Reference doc is here:<br>
+&gt; <a href="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:interviews">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marcom:interviews</a> (with list of<br>
+&gt; people/stacks considered).<br>
+&gt;<br></p>
+<p>I have some answers from mikala<br>
+&gt; Cheers!<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Romain<br>
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+ männlich - 64 Jahre alt<br />
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2 Final//EN">
+<html>
+<head>
+ <title>Erhalte Zugang zu meinen Bildern und mehr</title>
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+<table width="620" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="line-height:18px;">
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+ Wolfgang Bornath<br />
+ <font size="-2" style="font-size: 11px;" >
+ männlich - 64 Jahre alt<br />
+ Hessen</font></font><br /><br />
+ <br />
+ </td>
+ <td width="20" height="90" valign="top" bgcolor="#303030"><img src="http://s6.netlogstatic.com/v6.00/4098/s/i/mail/balloon-point.gif" width="20" height="55" align="top"></td>
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+ <td style="font-size: 13px;" height="90" bgcolor="#efefef"><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" color="#666666"><font color="#bd0710" size="+2">Hi!</font><br />
+ <br />
+ Ich habe ein Netlog-Profil erstellt und möchte dir (mageia-marketing@mageia.org) Zugang zu meinen neuesten Bilder und mehr geben.
+ <br />
+ <br />
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" bgcolor="#BD0710" background="http://s6.netlogstatic.com/v6.00/257745/s/i/mail/btn-gradient.gif">
+ <tr>
+ <td height="3" colspan="4"></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
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+ <td><img src="http://s6.netlogstatic.com/v6.00/257745/s/i/mail/btn-logo.gif" width="35" height="35" /></td>
+ <td>
+ <a href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_" style="font-family: Arial, helvetica, 'sans-serif'; color: #ffffff">
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+ <font color="#bd0710">Click here
+ </font></a>.<br />
+
+ <strong>Massive Media NV</strong> - E. Braunplein 18. B-9000 Gent. Belgium. <br />
+ BE0859635972 -
+ <a href="mailto:abuse-de@netlog.com" style="color:#666666;">
+ <font color="#666666">abuse-de@netlog.com</font></a><br />
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+Sorry folks, this was an *unwanted* automatic mail from the netlog system.<br><br>-- <br>wobo<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Am 12. September 2011 07:40 schrieb Wolfgang Bornath <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:noreply%2BM192120826@netlogmail.com">noreply+M192120826@netlogmail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><u></u>
+
+
+
+
+<div>
+<table style="line-height:18px" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="620">
+ <tbody><tr>
+ <td colspan="4" height="10" bgcolor="#303030"> </td>
+ <td colspan="4" height="10"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td colspan="3" height="10" bgcolor="#303030"> </td>
+ <td colspan="4" height="10" bgcolor="#efefef"> </td>
+ <td colspan="1" height="10"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#303030" width="30"> </td>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#303030" valign="top" width="115">
+ <table bgcolor="#FFFFFF" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="86">
+ <tbody><tr>
+ <td style="text-align:center;padding:3px 0"><img src="" height="60" width="80"></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody></table>
+ <br>
+ <font style="font-size:12px" color="#FFFFFF" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-1">
+ Wolfgang Bornath<br>
+ <font style="font-size:11px" size="-2">
+ männlich - 64 Jahre alt<br>
+ Hessen</font></font><br><br>
+ <br>
+ </td>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#303030" valign="top" width="20"><img src="" height="55" align="top" width="20"></td>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#efefef" width="15"> </td>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#efefef" width="15"> </td>
+ <td style="font-size:13px" height="90" bgcolor="#efefef"><font color="#666666" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#bd0710" size="+2">Hi!</font><br>
+ <br>
+ Ich habe ein Netlog-Profil erstellt und möchte dir (<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>) Zugang zu meinen neuesten Bilder und mehr geben.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <table bgcolor="#BD0710" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody><tr>
+ <td colspan="4" height="3"></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td> </td>
+ <td><img src="" height="35" width="35"></td>
+ <td>
+ <a href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_" style="color:#ffffff" target="_blank">
+ <font color="#FFFFFF" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="+1">Verbinde dich mit Wolfgang</font>
+ </a>
+ </td>
+ <td width="10"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td colspan="4" height="3"></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody></table>
+ <br>
+ <font style="font-size:13px" color="#666666" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-1">
+ Hallo, <br>Wolfgang </font>
+ </font></td>
+ <td bgcolor="#efefef" width="15"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td colspan="3" rowspan="4" bgcolor="#303030"> </td>
+ <td bgcolor="#efefef" width="15"> </td>
+ <td colspan="2" bgcolor="#efefef"> </td>
+ <td bgcolor="#efefef" width="15"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td rowspan="3" bgcolor="#303030" width="15"> </td>
+ <td colspan="4" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" valign="top">
+ <font color="#666666" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-2">
+ Wird der Button oben nicht korrekt gezeigt? <br>
+ Klick <a href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_" target="_blank"><font color="#bd0710">here</font></a> oder kopiere den Link unten in die Adressleiste deines Browsers.<br>
+
+ <a style="color:#bd0710" href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_" target="_blank"><font color="#bd0710">http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_</font></a></font>
+ <br><br><br>
+ <br><br>
+ <img src="" height="23" width="112"><br><br>
+ <font color="#666666" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-2">
+ Möchtest du keine Einladungen von deinen Freunden mehr erhalten?
+ <a style="color:#bd0710" href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9NiZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGbm9tYWlscyUyRmludml0ZSUyRmVtYWlsJTNELWJXRm5aV2xoTFcxaGNtdGxkR2x1WjBCdFlXZGxhV0V1YjNKbiUyNmNvZGUlM0QxNDg0NTgyMQ__" target="_blank">
+ <font color="#bd0710">Klick hier
+ </font></a>.
+ <br>
+ Don&#39;t want to receive invitations from your friends anymore?
+ <a style="color:#bd0710" href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9NyZnbT0xMiZ1PWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZlbi5uZXRsb2cuY29tJTJGZ28lMkZub21haWxzJTJGaW52aXRlJTJGZW1haWwlM0QtYldGblpXbGhMVzFoY210bGRHbHVaMEJ0WVdkbGFXRXViM0puJTI2Y29kZSUzRDE0ODQ1ODIx" target="_blank">
+ <font color="#bd0710">Click here
+ </font></a>.<br>
+
+ <b>Massive Media NV</b> - E. Braunplein 18. B-9000 Gent. Belgium. <br>
+ BE0859635972 -
+ <a href="mailto:abuse-de@netlog.com" style="color:#666666" target="_blank">
+ <font color="#666666">abuse-de@netlog.com</font></a><br>
+ </font>
+ </td>
+ <td colspan="2" rowspan="2" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
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+</tbody></table>
+<img src="">
+</div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
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+<br></blockquote></div><br>
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+Sorry folks, this was an *unwanted* automatic mail from the netlog system.<br><br>-- <br>wobo<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Am 12. September 2011 07:40 schrieb Wolfgang Bornath <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:noreply%2BM192120826@netlogmail.com">noreply+M192120826@netlogmail.com</a>&gt;</span>:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><u></u>
+
+
+
+
+<div>
+<table style="line-height:18px" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="620">
+ <tbody><tr>
+ <td colspan="4" height="10" bgcolor="#303030"> </td>
+ <td colspan="4" height="10"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td colspan="3" height="10" bgcolor="#303030"> </td>
+ <td colspan="4" height="10" bgcolor="#efefef"> </td>
+ <td colspan="1" height="10"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#303030" width="30"> </td>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#303030" valign="top" width="115">
+ <table bgcolor="#FFFFFF" border="0" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0" width="86">
+ <tbody><tr>
+ <td style="text-align:center;padding:3px 0"><img src="" height="60" width="80"></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody></table>
+ <br>
+ <font style="font-size:12px" color="#FFFFFF" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-1">
+ Wolfgang Bornath<br>
+ <font style="font-size:11px" size="-2">
+ männlich - 64 Jahre alt<br>
+ Hessen</font></font><br><br>
+ <br>
+ </td>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#303030" valign="top" width="20"><img src="" height="55" align="top" width="20"></td>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#efefef" width="15"> </td>
+ <td height="90" bgcolor="#efefef" width="15"> </td>
+ <td style="font-size:13px" height="90" bgcolor="#efefef"><font color="#666666" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><font color="#bd0710" size="+2">Hi!</font><br>
+ <br>
+ Ich habe ein Netlog-Profil erstellt und möchte dir (<a href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>) Zugang zu meinen neuesten Bilder und mehr geben.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <table bgcolor="#BD0710" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody><tr>
+ <td colspan="4" height="3"></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td> </td>
+ <td><img src="" height="35" width="35"></td>
+ <td>
+ <a href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_" style="color:#ffffff" target="_blank">
+ <font color="#FFFFFF" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="+1">Verbinde dich mit Wolfgang</font>
+ </a>
+ </td>
+ <td width="10"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td colspan="4" height="3"></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody></table>
+ <br>
+ <font style="font-size:13px" color="#666666" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-1">
+ Hallo, <br>Wolfgang </font>
+ </font></td>
+ <td bgcolor="#efefef" width="15"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td colspan="3" rowspan="4" bgcolor="#303030"> </td>
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+ <tr>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF" valign="top">
+ <font color="#666666" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-2">
+ Wird der Button oben nicht korrekt gezeigt? <br>
+ Klick <a href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_" target="_blank"><font color="#bd0710">here</font></a> oder kopiere den Link unten in die Adressleiste deines Browsers.<br>
+
+ <a style="color:#bd0710" href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_" target="_blank"><font color="#bd0710">http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9MSZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGcmVnaXN0ZXIlMkZpZCUzRC1iV0ZuWldsaExXMWhjbXRsZEdsdVowQnRZV2RsYVdFdWIzSm4lMjZ1aWQlM0QxNzM0NTk4NzQ_</font></a></font>
+ <br><br><br>
+ <br><br>
+ <img src="" height="23" width="112"><br><br>
+ <font color="#666666" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="-2">
+ Möchtest du keine Einladungen von deinen Freunden mehr erhalten?
+ <a style="color:#bd0710" href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9NiZnbT0xMiZ1PSUyRmdvJTJGbm9tYWlscyUyRmludml0ZSUyRmVtYWlsJTNELWJXRm5aV2xoTFcxaGNtdGxkR2x1WjBCdFlXZGxhV0V1YjNKbiUyNmNvZGUlM0QxNDg0NTgyMQ__" target="_blank">
+ <font color="#bd0710">Klick hier
+ </font></a>.
+ <br>
+ Don&#39;t want to receive invitations from your friends anymore?
+ <a style="color:#bd0710" href="http://de.netlog.com/go/mailurl/-bT0xMzgyMjMyNzY0Jmw9NyZnbT0xMiZ1PWh0dHAlM0ElMkYlMkZlbi5uZXRsb2cuY29tJTJGZ28lMkZub21haWxzJTJGaW52aXRlJTJGZW1haWwlM0QtYldGblpXbGhMVzFoY210bGRHbHVaMEJ0WVdkbGFXRXViM0puJTI2Y29kZSUzRDE0ODQ1ODIx" target="_blank">
+ <font color="#bd0710">Click here
+ </font></a>.<br>
+
+ <b>Massive Media NV</b> - E. Braunplein 18. B-9000 Gent. Belgium. <br>
+ BE0859635972 -
+ <a href="mailto:abuse-de@netlog.com" style="color:#666666" target="_blank">
+ <font color="#666666">abuse-de@netlog.com</font></a><br>
+ </font>
+ </td>
+ <td colspan="2" rowspan="2" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
+ <td bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> </td>
+ </tr>
+</tbody></table>
+<img src="">
+</div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
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+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br>
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+ <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed;
+ font-size: 12px;" lang="x-western">I would like to join the Mageia
+ marketing team and help get Mageia out there :).
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <div class="moz-text-flowed" style="font-family: -moz-fixed;
+ font-size: 12px;" lang="x-western">I would like to join the Mageia
+ marketing team and help get Mageia out there :).
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>
+Hi,<br>
+ <br>
+ I would like to have a mageia banner on my website, it can be
+ written in English. I can translate it in Romanian, i am a member of
+ the translation team.<br>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.famitemele.ro">www.famitemele.ro</a>,
+ some students (I am no longer a student) that try to help education
+ grow (we do have a problem, they want us to solve their homework
+ completely), I can be contacted for this because I started the page,
+ Romanian (and I will translate the framework to English)<br>
+ <br>
+ Someone suggested I should add a 'powered by Mageia' but text is not
+ so eye catching.<br>
+ <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
+
+With respect,
+Dan-Marian, Joia.</pre> </div></body>
+</html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'>
+Hi,<br>
+ <br>
+ I would like to have a mageia banner on my website, it can be
+ written in English. I can translate it in Romanian, i am a member of
+ the translation team.<br>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.famitemele.ro">www.famitemele.ro</a>,
+ some students (I am no longer a student) that try to help education
+ grow (we do have a problem, they want us to solve their homework
+ completely), I can be contacted for this because I started the page,
+ Romanian (and I will translate the framework to English)<br>
+ <br>
+ Someone suggested I should add a 'powered by Mageia' but text is not
+ so eye catching.<br>
+ <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
+
+With respect,
+Dan-Marian, Joia.</pre> </div></body>
+</html> \ No newline at end of file
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+Hello,<br><br>I&#39;m a Mandrake/Mandriva Linux user since 2004 and now I&#39;m testing Mageia. Being Mageia a community project I want to help. I have some ideas and I also want to collaborate with some art work, specifically in the setup process. I&#39;ll try to join the IRC channel but be aware that I live in Costa Rica and there is a 6 hour difference in the time zone. <br>
+<br>Thanks,<br><br>Esteban<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hello,<br><br>I&#39;m a Mandrake/Mandriva Linux user since 2004 and now I&#39;m testing Mageia. Being Mageia a community project I want to help. I have some ideas and I also want to collaborate with some art work, specifically in the setup process. I&#39;ll try to join the IRC channel but be aware that I live in Costa Rica and there is a 6 hour difference in the time zone. <br>
+<br>Thanks,<br><br>Esteban<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
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+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
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+ On 24/01/12 20:16, Esteban Mora wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CAA0uR1uj=iemU9LB+zjdm_w_28q5=_FqnovOJdrJqfJ5rGjnNA@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">Hello,<br>
+ <br>
+ I'm a Mandrake/Mandriva Linux user since 2004 and now I'm testing
+ Mageia. Being Mageia a community project I want to help. I have
+ some ideas and I also want to collaborate with some art work,
+ specifically in the setup process. I'll try to join the IRC
+ channel but be aware that I live in Costa Rica and there is a 6
+ hour difference in the time zone. <br>
+ <br>
+ Thanks,<br>
+ <br>
+ Esteban<br clear="all">
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ Esteban Mora<br>
+ S&iacute;gueme en Twitter en <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>
+ ----------------------<br>
+ La perfecci&oacute;n no es cosa peque&ntilde;a, pero est&aacute; hecha de peque&ntilde;as
+ cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Hello welcome to Mageia :)!<br>
+ <br>
+ Since you are interested in artwork you should join the Mageia
+ artwork mailing list as well if you are not already on it. I also
+ suggest reading the wiki pages for the marketing and artwork teams
+ if you haven't already done so. Someone else can provide more
+ details about what you can do for the marketing team if you would
+ like.<br>
+ <br>
+ There is going to be a special artwork team meeting, which you are
+ welcome to join, this evening or for you the afternoon this
+ Wednesday the 25th at 7pm UTC/GMT and so 1pm for you I believe. The
+ meeting will happen in #mageia-artwork on the Freenode IRC network.
+ Their will probably be a public log of the meeting when it has
+ finished: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meetbot.mageia.org/">http://meetbot.mageia.org/</a><br>
+ <br>
+ The main #mageia channel can be used for distribution support and to
+ find out more about Mageia. However if you would also like to get to
+ know some of the people in the Mageia community on IRC I suggest
+ coming to #mageia-social as well.<br>
+ <br>
+ From<br>
+ Sebastian<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
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+ On 24/01/12 20:16, Esteban Mora wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CAA0uR1uj=iemU9LB+zjdm_w_28q5=_FqnovOJdrJqfJ5rGjnNA@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">Hello,<br>
+ <br>
+ I'm a Mandrake/Mandriva Linux user since 2004 and now I'm testing
+ Mageia. Being Mageia a community project I want to help. I have
+ some ideas and I also want to collaborate with some art work,
+ specifically in the setup process. I'll try to join the IRC
+ channel but be aware that I live in Costa Rica and there is a 6
+ hour difference in the time zone. <br>
+ <br>
+ Thanks,<br>
+ <br>
+ Esteban<br clear="all">
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ Esteban Mora<br>
+ S&iacute;gueme en Twitter en <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>
+ ----------------------<br>
+ La perfecci&oacute;n no es cosa peque&ntilde;a, pero est&aacute; hecha de peque&ntilde;as
+ cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Hello welcome to Mageia :)!<br>
+ <br>
+ Since you are interested in artwork you should join the Mageia
+ artwork mailing list as well if you are not already on it. I also
+ suggest reading the wiki pages for the marketing and artwork teams
+ if you haven't already done so. Someone else can provide more
+ details about what you can do for the marketing team if you would
+ like.<br>
+ <br>
+ There is going to be a special artwork team meeting, which you are
+ welcome to join, this evening or for you the afternoon this
+ Wednesday the 25th at 7pm UTC/GMT and so 1pm for you I believe. The
+ meeting will happen in #mageia-artwork on the Freenode IRC network.
+ Their will probably be a public log of the meeting when it has
+ finished: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meetbot.mageia.org/">http://meetbot.mageia.org/</a><br>
+ <br>
+ The main #mageia channel can be used for distribution support and to
+ find out more about Mageia. However if you would also like to get to
+ know some of the people in the Mageia community on IRC I suggest
+ coming to #mageia-social as well.<br>
+ <br>
+ From<br>
+ Sebastian<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html><head></head><body>Good point. Do we want to.fractionalize our support outlets?<br>
+-- <br>
+Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Oliver Burger &lt;oliver.bgr@googlemail.com&gt; wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap:break-word; font-family: sans-serif">Am 08.02.2012 14:54, schrieb Josh King:<br />&gt; On 08/02/12 03:29, Anne Nicolas wrote:<br />&gt;&gt; Le 08/02/2012 10:27, Patricia Fraser a écrit :<br />&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi guys,<br />&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />&gt;&gt;&gt; This is something we really should do. Is anyone interested in taking<br />&gt;&gt;&gt; this on with me? Seb? JohnR? Anyone?<br />&gt;&gt; to be clear, we are looking for various profiles, technical and non<br />&gt;&gt; technical<br />&gt;&gt;<br />&gt;&gt;<br />&gt; I'd be interested in helping out. I'm am apprentice packager so perhaps<br />&gt; I could lend some assistance.?<br />&gt;<br />Just one thing about it:Of course it help us getting attention, when <br />there is a Mageia sub forums on LQ, but it will divide man power between <br />our forums and those LQ forums.<br /><br />Oliver<br /><hr /><br />Mageia-marketing mailing list<br />Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br /><a
+href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br /><br /></pre></blockquote></div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<html><head></head><body>Good point. Do we want to.fractionalize our support outlets?<br>
+-- <br>
+Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">Oliver Burger &lt;oliver.bgr@googlemail.com&gt; wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
+<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; word-wrap:break-word; font-family: sans-serif">Am 08.02.2012 14:54, schrieb Josh King:<br />&gt; On 08/02/12 03:29, Anne Nicolas wrote:<br />&gt;&gt; Le 08/02/2012 10:27, Patricia Fraser a écrit :<br />&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi guys,<br />&gt;&gt;&gt;<br />&gt;&gt;&gt; This is something we really should do. Is anyone interested in taking<br />&gt;&gt;&gt; this on with me? Seb? JohnR? Anyone?<br />&gt;&gt; to be clear, we are looking for various profiles, technical and non<br />&gt;&gt; technical<br />&gt;&gt;<br />&gt;&gt;<br />&gt; I'd be interested in helping out. I'm am apprentice packager so perhaps<br />&gt; I could lend some assistance.?<br />&gt;<br />Just one thing about it:Of course it help us getting attention, when <br />there is a Mageia sub forums on LQ, but it will divide man power between <br />our forums and those LQ forums.<br /><br />Oliver<br /><hr /><br />Mageia-marketing mailing list<br />Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br /><a
+href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br /><br /></pre></blockquote></div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 15/02/12 02:04, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120215130419.0000402a@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Now that I'm back in Australia, we should maybe re-visit the time we
+have our IRC get-together each week or fortnight - we're a bit spread
+out over the planet!
+
+For me, a time that's equivalent to UTC 20:00 or 21:00, or a time
+that's equivalent to UTC 09:00 or 10:00 would be fine. Earlier than UTC
+20:00 I can do sometimes but not often.
+
+What times suit everyone else?
+
+We need to get some tasks worked out for Mageia 2 release - nothing too
+heavy, but it would be good to spread the word well for this release!
+
+Cheers,
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Hi<br>
+ <br>
+ For me the evening is good in UK time :).<br>
+ <br>
+ Tuesday 7pm UTC is the Mageia documentation team meeting.<br>
+ <br>
+ Wednesday at about 8pm seems to usually be the packaging meeting, I
+ am not a packager, but I know these meetings can be useful to find
+ out Mageia project information.&nbsp; Sometimes I type in them a bit as
+ well. However if we have our marketing team meeting on the same day
+ and at the same time, well I tend to be in quite a few IRC channels
+ any way when using IRC, so that's not really a problem. <br>
+ <br>
+ Also the day of the marketing team meeting isn't a problem for me,
+ but other people might want a different day.<br>
+ <br>
+ Clocks change as well twice a year, but 8pm UK time should be ok
+ with me, and 9pm even.<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ Which time zone are you in now, and where abouts in Australia did
+ you move to?<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 15/02/12 02:04, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120215130419.0000402a@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Now that I'm back in Australia, we should maybe re-visit the time we
+have our IRC get-together each week or fortnight - we're a bit spread
+out over the planet!
+
+For me, a time that's equivalent to UTC 20:00 or 21:00, or a time
+that's equivalent to UTC 09:00 or 10:00 would be fine. Earlier than UTC
+20:00 I can do sometimes but not often.
+
+What times suit everyone else?
+
+We need to get some tasks worked out for Mageia 2 release - nothing too
+heavy, but it would be good to spread the word well for this release!
+
+Cheers,
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Hi<br>
+ <br>
+ For me the evening is good in UK time :).<br>
+ <br>
+ Tuesday 7pm UTC is the Mageia documentation team meeting.<br>
+ <br>
+ Wednesday at about 8pm seems to usually be the packaging meeting, I
+ am not a packager, but I know these meetings can be useful to find
+ out Mageia project information.&nbsp; Sometimes I type in them a bit as
+ well. However if we have our marketing team meeting on the same day
+ and at the same time, well I tend to be in quite a few IRC channels
+ any way when using IRC, so that's not really a problem. <br>
+ <br>
+ Also the day of the marketing team meeting isn't a problem for me,
+ but other people might want a different day.<br>
+ <br>
+ Clocks change as well twice a year, but 8pm UK time should be ok
+ with me, and 9pm even.<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ Which time zone are you in now, and where abouts in Australia did
+ you move to?<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ On 15/02/12 11:05, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120215220512.0000541d@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">For me the evening is good in UK time :).
+
+Tuesday 7pm UTC is the Mageia documentation team meeting.
+
+Wednesday at about 8pm seems to usually be the packaging meeting, I
+am not a packager, but I know these meetings can be useful to find
+out Mageia project information. Sometimes I type in them a bit as
+well. However if we have our marketing team meeting on the same day
+and at the same time, well I tend to be in quite a few IRC channels
+any way when using IRC, so that's not really a problem.
+
+Also the day of the marketing team meeting isn't a problem for me,
+but other people might want a different day.
+
+Clocks change as well twice a year, but 8pm UK time should be ok with
+me, and 9pm even.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+All good points. We´ve had marcom meetings on Wednesdays, alternating
+with artwork - but they don´t have to be Wednesdays, sure. Let´s see
+what other people have to say?
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Which time zone are you in now, and where abouts in Australia did you
+move to?
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+I´m in Victoria, and the time zone is UTC + 11 (we´re on summer time),
+dropping to UTC +9 when the northern hemisphere is on summer time.
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Hi<br>
+ <br>
+ Oh yeah they fit in with the artwork team meetings, already knew
+ that, but forgot about that when typing the email.<br>
+ <br>
+ Wednesday will be fine for me, but at the moment any day of the week
+ would be really.<br>
+ <br>
+ Is there going to be a marketing team meeting this evening, 7pm UTC,
+ or 8 or 9pm UTC even?<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ Was wondering if you were in Sydney time and yes you are.<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 15/02/12 11:05, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120215220512.0000541d@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">For me the evening is good in UK time :).
+
+Tuesday 7pm UTC is the Mageia documentation team meeting.
+
+Wednesday at about 8pm seems to usually be the packaging meeting, I
+am not a packager, but I know these meetings can be useful to find
+out Mageia project information. Sometimes I type in them a bit as
+well. However if we have our marketing team meeting on the same day
+and at the same time, well I tend to be in quite a few IRC channels
+any way when using IRC, so that's not really a problem.
+
+Also the day of the marketing team meeting isn't a problem for me,
+but other people might want a different day.
+
+Clocks change as well twice a year, but 8pm UK time should be ok with
+me, and 9pm even.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+All good points. We´ve had marcom meetings on Wednesdays, alternating
+with artwork - but they don´t have to be Wednesdays, sure. Let´s see
+what other people have to say?
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Which time zone are you in now, and where abouts in Australia did you
+move to?
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+I´m in Victoria, and the time zone is UTC + 11 (we´re on summer time),
+dropping to UTC +9 when the northern hemisphere is on summer time.
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Hi<br>
+ <br>
+ Oh yeah they fit in with the artwork team meetings, already knew
+ that, but forgot about that when typing the email.<br>
+ <br>
+ Wednesday will be fine for me, but at the moment any day of the week
+ would be really.<br>
+ <br>
+ Is there going to be a marketing team meeting this evening, 7pm UTC,
+ or 8 or 9pm UTC even?<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ Was wondering if you were in Sydney time and yes you are.<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+Hi,<br><br>It&#39;s me, the guy from Costa Rica. I was thinking the same a couple of weeks ago. I installed the alpha release and noticed that the pictures were the same. I have some ideas and I think I can help with some designs (or at least, prototypes). But I need the grid and the Mageia logo in SVG format. Where can I find them?<br>
+<br>Esteban<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/23 Rmi Verschelde <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:remi@verschelde.fr">remi@verschelde.fr</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi guys,<br>
+<br>
+You may know that Mageia&#39;s installer shows some promotional pictures<br>
+during the installation[1], which are supposed to demonstrate the main<br>
+characteristics and assets of Mageia. For Mageia 1, a contributor took<br>
+the time to design a few pictures to promote some aspects of Mageia,<br>
+and these are still shown in the installer of Mageia 2 beta 1.<br>
+Now, it would be good for Mageia 2&#39;s look that we design some new<br>
+pictures. To do so, it could be great that Marcom and Artwork work<br>
+together to come with a bunch of pretty professional-looking pictures<br>
+which enforce Mageia&#39;s values and trademark.<br>
+<br>
+The fact is, artwork freeze is on March, 10th, i.e. in a bit more than<br>
+two weeks. So we need to decide what we want to do, who will do it and<br>
+using which resources and content.<br>
+So, what are your ideas for these pictures?<br>
+<br>
+I had an initial idea, but you may find better ones. I thought that we<br>
+could do 5 pictures, each dedicated to one of the core values of<br>
+Mageia[2], i.e.:<br>
+- Mageia is social software<br>
+- Mageia is powerful technology<br>
+- Mageia is knowledge<br>
+- Mageia is quality<br>
+- Mageia is open relations<br>
+I have no idea about how these key points could be conveyed through<br>
+artwork, but it could give us hints for the content.<br>
+<br>
+There could be other possibilities, such as promoting the content<br>
+included in the distribution and the repositories: Mageia Control<br>
+Center, LibreOffice, latest version of KDE, powerful IDEs, awesome<br>
+games such as Battle for Wesnoth, etc..<br>
+We could also focus on the community, displaying small overviews of<br>
+the work of some of our teams, etc..<br>
+<br>
+So, what are your ideas?<br>
+<br>
+Regards,<br>
+Rmi / Akien<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+[1] See also bug #4651 on Bugzilla: <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651</a><br>
+You&#39;ll find there a link to Mageia 1&#39;s pictures on the SVN.<br>
+<br>
+[2] <a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/values/" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/values/</a><br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hi,<br><br>It&#39;s me, the guy from Costa Rica. I was thinking the same a couple of weeks ago. I installed the alpha release and noticed that the pictures were the same. I have some ideas and I think I can help with some designs (or at least, prototypes). But I need the grid and the Mageia logo in SVG format. Where can I find them?<br>
+<br>Esteban<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/23 Rmi Verschelde <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:remi@verschelde.fr">remi@verschelde.fr</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi guys,<br>
+<br>
+You may know that Mageia&#39;s installer shows some promotional pictures<br>
+during the installation[1], which are supposed to demonstrate the main<br>
+characteristics and assets of Mageia. For Mageia 1, a contributor took<br>
+the time to design a few pictures to promote some aspects of Mageia,<br>
+and these are still shown in the installer of Mageia 2 beta 1.<br>
+Now, it would be good for Mageia 2&#39;s look that we design some new<br>
+pictures. To do so, it could be great that Marcom and Artwork work<br>
+together to come with a bunch of pretty professional-looking pictures<br>
+which enforce Mageia&#39;s values and trademark.<br>
+<br>
+The fact is, artwork freeze is on March, 10th, i.e. in a bit more than<br>
+two weeks. So we need to decide what we want to do, who will do it and<br>
+using which resources and content.<br>
+So, what are your ideas for these pictures?<br>
+<br>
+I had an initial idea, but you may find better ones. I thought that we<br>
+could do 5 pictures, each dedicated to one of the core values of<br>
+Mageia[2], i.e.:<br>
+- Mageia is social software<br>
+- Mageia is powerful technology<br>
+- Mageia is knowledge<br>
+- Mageia is quality<br>
+- Mageia is open relations<br>
+I have no idea about how these key points could be conveyed through<br>
+artwork, but it could give us hints for the content.<br>
+<br>
+There could be other possibilities, such as promoting the content<br>
+included in the distribution and the repositories: Mageia Control<br>
+Center, LibreOffice, latest version of KDE, powerful IDEs, awesome<br>
+games such as Battle for Wesnoth, etc..<br>
+We could also focus on the community, displaying small overviews of<br>
+the work of some of our teams, etc..<br>
+<br>
+So, what are your ideas?<br>
+<br>
+Regards,<br>
+Rmi / Akien<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+[1] See also bug #4651 on Bugzilla: <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651" target="_blank">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651</a><br>
+You&#39;ll find there a link to Mageia 1&#39;s pictures on the SVN.<br>
+<br>
+[2] <a href="http://www.mageia.org/en/about/values/" target="_blank">http://www.mageia.org/en/about/values/</a><br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+<div dir="ltr">Hello everybody.<br>I&#39;m sending this to both lists so that we can coordinate this together. I apologize to everybody and anybody that will get this twice.<br>When replying, please be sure to hit Reply To All.<br>
+<br>I hope that everybody is familiar with the bug: <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651</a><br><br>As you may or may not be aware, the artwork freeze is coming up, in fact it&#39;s next Saturday. That means that we need to get this done <b>this week</b>. I know that you all have other important things to do, but if we all pitch in a little bit none of us will have to sacrifice a lot of time.<br>
+<br>I was sort of hoping that the Marcom team could come up with some new text and that the Artwork team could come up with some new artwork. Then we&#39;ll hammer out the details at Wednesday&#39;s Marcom meeting, and then finish it up. A final polish and send it off to the packagers no later than the middle of next week.<br>
+<br>I really think that we can do this in the time, but we all need to help out. So please, let&#39;s get to work on this.<br><br>There has already been a proposal to use the five Mageia Values. I think that that&#39;s a good idea, although 5 images may be a bit too much, considering the time constraints.<br>
+On the other hand, if the Artwork team can come up with a single image that has a few slight variations that might work too.<br><br>Your thoughts?<br><br>Max<br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Hello everybody.<br>I&#39;m sending this to both lists so that we can coordinate this together. I apologize to everybody and anybody that will get this twice.<br>When replying, please be sure to hit Reply To All.<br>
+<br>I hope that everybody is familiar with the bug: <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4651</a><br><br>As you may or may not be aware, the artwork freeze is coming up, in fact it&#39;s next Saturday. That means that we need to get this done <b>this week</b>. I know that you all have other important things to do, but if we all pitch in a little bit none of us will have to sacrifice a lot of time.<br>
+<br>I was sort of hoping that the Marcom team could come up with some new text and that the Artwork team could come up with some new artwork. Then we&#39;ll hammer out the details at Wednesday&#39;s Marcom meeting, and then finish it up. A final polish and send it off to the packagers no later than the middle of next week.<br>
+<br>I really think that we can do this in the time, but we all need to help out. So please, let&#39;s get to work on this.<br><br>There has already been a proposal to use the five Mageia Values. I think that that&#39;s a good idea, although 5 images may be a bit too much, considering the time constraints.<br>
+On the other hand, if the Artwork team can come up with a single image that has a few slight variations that might work too.<br><br>Your thoughts?<br><br>Max<br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Glad to see that you and your cat and your belongings have safely made it halfway across the globe. :D<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Patricia Fraser <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+Sorry I haven&#39;t been around and available for the last little while -<br>
+I&#39;m in the process of moving still, so this week I&#39;ll still be<br>
+unavailable for meetings. However, I&#39;m in my house, cat and all, from<br>
+Sunday, so next week I&#39;ll be back on deck!<br>
+<br>
+If I can grab a connected half-hour before the end of the week to look<br>
+at the texts for the install screens, I will, but I can&#39;t promise. So<br>
+if anyone else has suggestions for the texts, please do make them!<br>
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Tue Feb 28 07:24:47 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+hermes up 0 hour(s), 26 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
+--<br>
+</font></span><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-artwork mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Glad to see that you and your cat and your belongings have safely made it halfway across the globe. :D<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 10:27 PM, Patricia Fraser <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+Sorry I haven&#39;t been around and available for the last little while -<br>
+I&#39;m in the process of moving still, so this week I&#39;ll still be<br>
+unavailable for meetings. However, I&#39;m in my house, cat and all, from<br>
+Sunday, so next week I&#39;ll be back on deck!<br>
+<br>
+If I can grab a connected half-hour before the end of the week to look<br>
+at the texts for the install screens, I will, but I can&#39;t promise. So<br>
+if anyone else has suggestions for the texts, please do make them!<br>
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Tue Feb 28 07:24:47 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+hermes up 0 hour(s), 26 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
+--<br>
+</font></span><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-artwork mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+Hi,<br><br>It&#39;s me (the guy from Costa Rica). I uploaded a demo of the splash screen that I made today. It is just a demo. You can download it from here:<br><br>Before (one of Mageia&#39;s 2 alpha screens): <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</a><br>
+After (just the background on gray color): <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br><br>Please, let me know what you think (I think it needs more color). I need to place some icons showing what the people can do with Mageia (desktop, desing, play, develop, etc). And I want to try other colors. I have a lot of work on these days, but I&#39;ll try to help.<br clear="all">
+<br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hi,<br><br>It&#39;s me (the guy from Costa Rica). I uploaded a demo of the splash screen that I made today. It is just a demo. You can download it from here:<br><br>Before (one of Mageia&#39;s 2 alpha screens): <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</a><br>
+After (just the background on gray color): <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br><br>Please, let me know what you think (I think it needs more color). I need to place some icons showing what the people can do with Mageia (desktop, desing, play, develop, etc). And I want to try other colors. I have a lot of work on these days, but I&#39;ll try to help.<br clear="all">
+<br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 29/02/12 15:55, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=KyiC-OL4jL8w6CZ+vxYHmKP+trH6aAbpZOhOYFjgY86X6A@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">I am not qualified to send such announcements to
+ the marcom list.<br>
+ And Trish told me that she would try to be there, and most
+ likely would.<br>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ I think that you are allowed to send announcements that are relevant
+ to both teams, to both mailing lists.<br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=KyiC-OL4jL8w6CZ+vxYHmKP+trH6aAbpZOhOYFjgY86X6A@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:12 PM,
+ Sebastian sebsebseb <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt;</span>
+ wrote:<br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
+ padding-left: 1ex;">
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Looks like the email
+ should have sent to the marketing team mailing list as
+ well.<br>
+ <br>
+ I assume the time of the meeting will be at 7pm GMT/UTC.<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ I hope Trish will be at the meeting :).<br>
+ <br>
+ -------- Original Message --------
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Subject:
+ </th>
+ <td>[Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting
+ tonight</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Date:
+ </th>
+ <td>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:08:12 +0200</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">From:
+ </th>
+ <td>Max Quarterpleen <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com"
+ target="_blank">&lt;bogusman222@gmail.com&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Reply-To:
+
+ </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org"
+ target="_blank">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">To:
+ </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org"
+ target="_blank">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <div>
+ <div class="h5"> <br>
+ <br>
+ <div dir="ltr">Hi everybody.<br>
+ Tonight there will be a meeting in #mageia-marcom to
+ discuss the resolution of bug 4651 (installer
+ images).<br>
+ Please make an effort to be there, because this is
+ something that we really need to work on.<br>
+ Have a good day!<br>
+ Max<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ _______________________________________________<br>
+ Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing"
+ target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 29/02/12 15:55, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=KyiC-OL4jL8w6CZ+vxYHmKP+trH6aAbpZOhOYFjgY86X6A@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">I am not qualified to send such announcements to
+ the marcom list.<br>
+ And Trish told me that she would try to be there, and most
+ likely would.<br>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ I think that you are allowed to send announcements that are relevant
+ to both teams, to both mailing lists.<br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=KyiC-OL4jL8w6CZ+vxYHmKP+trH6aAbpZOhOYFjgY86X6A@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:12 PM,
+ Sebastian sebsebseb <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt;</span>
+ wrote:<br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);
+ padding-left: 1ex;">
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"> Looks like the email
+ should have sent to the marketing team mailing list as
+ well.<br>
+ <br>
+ I assume the time of the meeting will be at 7pm GMT/UTC.<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ I hope Trish will be at the meeting :).<br>
+ <br>
+ -------- Original Message --------
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Subject:
+ </th>
+ <td>[Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting
+ tonight</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Date:
+ </th>
+ <td>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:08:12 +0200</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">From:
+ </th>
+ <td>Max Quarterpleen <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com"
+ target="_blank">&lt;bogusman222@gmail.com&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Reply-To:
+
+ </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org"
+ target="_blank">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">To:
+ </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org"
+ target="_blank">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <div>
+ <div class="h5"> <br>
+ <br>
+ <div dir="ltr">Hi everybody.<br>
+ Tonight there will be a meeting in #mageia-marcom to
+ discuss the resolution of bug 4651 (installer
+ images).<br>
+ Please make an effort to be there, because this is
+ something that we really need to work on.<br>
+ Have a good day!<br>
+ Max<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ _______________________________________________<br>
+ Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing"
+ target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/205905c7/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/205905c7/attachment-0001.html
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@@ -0,0 +1,57 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Looks like the email should have sent to the marketing team mailing
+ list as well.<br>
+ <br>
+ I assume the time of the meeting will be at 7pm GMT/UTC.<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ I hope Trish will be at the meeting :).<br>
+ <br>
+ -------- Original Message --------
+ <table class="moz-email-headers-table" border="0" cellpadding="0"
+ cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Subject: </th>
+ <td>[Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
+ <td>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:08:12 +0200</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
+ <td>Max Quarterpleen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">&lt;bogusman222@gmail.com&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Reply-To:
+ </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">To: </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <div dir="ltr">Hi everybody.<br>
+ Tonight there will be a meeting in #mageia-marcom to discuss the
+ resolution of bug 4651 (installer images).<br>
+ Please make an effort to be there, because this is something that
+ we really need to work on.<br>
+ Have a good day!<br>
+ Max<br>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/205905c7/attachment-0001.ksh b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/205905c7/attachment-0001.ksh
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+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-artwork mailing list
+Mageia-artwork@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork
+
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Looks like the email should have sent to the marketing team mailing
+ list as well.<br>
+ <br>
+ I assume the time of the meeting will be at 7pm GMT/UTC.<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ I hope Trish will be at the meeting :).<br>
+ <br>
+ -------- Original Message --------
+ <table class="moz-email-headers-table" border="0" cellpadding="0"
+ cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Subject: </th>
+ <td>[Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
+ <td>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:08:12 +0200</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
+ <td>Max Quarterpleen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">&lt;bogusman222@gmail.com&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Reply-To:
+ </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">To: </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <div dir="ltr">Hi everybody.<br>
+ Tonight there will be a meeting in #mageia-marcom to discuss the
+ resolution of bug 4651 (installer images).<br>
+ Please make an effort to be there, because this is something that
+ we really need to work on.<br>
+ Have a good day!<br>
+ Max<br>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/205905c7/attachment.ksh b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/205905c7/attachment.ksh
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+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-artwork mailing list
+Mageia-artwork@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork
+
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/3671855e/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/3671855e/attachment-0001.html
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--- /dev/null
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 29/02/12 17:20, Esteban Mora wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CAA0uR1sH1=vyibRznEimHDkCHjuggYpD6Na47_uShcDiPrxrKw@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">Hi,<br>
+ <br>
+ It's me (the guy from Costa Rica). I uploaded a demo of the splash
+ screen that I made today. It is just a demo. You can download it
+ from here:<br>
+ <br>
+ Before (one of Mageia's 2 alpha screens): <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</a><br>
+ After (just the background on gray color): <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br>
+ <br>
+ Please, let me know what you think (I think it needs more color).
+ I need to place some icons showing what the people can do with
+ Mageia (desktop, desing, play, develop, etc). And I want to try
+ other colors. I have a lot of work on these days, but I'll try to
+ help.<br clear="all">
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ Esteban Mora<br>
+ S&iacute;gueme en Twitter en <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>
+ ----------------------<br>
+ La perfecci&oacute;n no es cosa peque&ntilde;a, pero est&aacute; hecha de peque&ntilde;as
+ cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Looks ok to me :). I thought the artwork team needed to know about
+ your artwork as well, and so the artwork team mailing list in the to
+ as well. <br>
+ <br>
+ I would suggest joining the artwork team mailing list if you haven't
+ already and sending emails about artwork to it.<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/3671855e/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/3671855e/attachment.html
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..43efca804
--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120229/3671855e/attachment.html
@@ -0,0 +1,52 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 29/02/12 17:20, Esteban Mora wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CAA0uR1sH1=vyibRznEimHDkCHjuggYpD6Na47_uShcDiPrxrKw@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">Hi,<br>
+ <br>
+ It's me (the guy from Costa Rica). I uploaded a demo of the splash
+ screen that I made today. It is just a demo. You can download it
+ from here:<br>
+ <br>
+ Before (one of Mageia's 2 alpha screens): <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</a><br>
+ After (just the background on gray color): <a
+ moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br>
+ <br>
+ Please, let me know what you think (I think it needs more color).
+ I need to place some icons showing what the people can do with
+ Mageia (desktop, desing, play, develop, etc). And I want to try
+ other colors. I have a lot of work on these days, but I'll try to
+ help.<br clear="all">
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ Esteban Mora<br>
+ S&iacute;gueme en Twitter en <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>
+ ----------------------<br>
+ La perfecci&oacute;n no es cosa peque&ntilde;a, pero est&aacute; hecha de peque&ntilde;as
+ cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Looks ok to me :). I thought the artwork team needed to know about
+ your artwork as well, and so the artwork team mailing list in the to
+ as well. <br>
+ <br>
+ I would suggest joining the artwork team mailing list if you haven't
+ already and sending emails about artwork to it.<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+Hi,<br><br>Just contacted the artwork team and submit another demo. You can look at it here:<br><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br><br>The text is just an example.<br>
+<br>Esteban<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/29 Sebastian sebsebseb <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<u></u>
+
+
+
+
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><div><div class="h5">
+ On 29/02/12 17:20, Esteban Mora wrote:
+ </div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5">Hi,<br>
+ <br>
+ It&#39;s me (the guy from Costa Rica). I uploaded a demo of the splash
+ screen that I made today. It is just a demo. You can download it
+ from here:<br>
+ <br>
+ Before (one of Mageia&#39;s 2 alpha screens): <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png" target="_blank">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</a><br>
+ After (just the background on gray color): <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png" target="_blank">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br>
+ <br>
+ Please, let me know what you think (I think it needs more color).
+ I need to place some icons showing what the people can do with
+ Mageia (desktop, desing, play, develop, etc). And I want to try
+ other colors. I have a lot of work on these days, but I&#39;ll try to
+ help.<br clear="all">
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ Esteban Mora<br>
+ Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972" target="_blank">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>
+ ----------------------<br>
+ La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas
+ cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+ </div></div><pre><fieldset></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Looks ok to me :). I thought the artwork team needed to know about
+ your artwork as well, and so the artwork team mailing list in the to
+ as well. <br>
+ <br>
+ I would suggest joining the artwork team mailing list if you haven&#39;t
+ already and sending emails about artwork to it.<br>
+ </div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hi,<br><br>Just contacted the artwork team and submit another demo. You can look at it here:<br><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br><br>The text is just an example.<br>
+<br>Esteban<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/2/29 Sebastian sebsebseb <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<u></u>
+
+
+
+
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff"><div><div class="h5">
+ On 29/02/12 17:20, Esteban Mora wrote:
+ </div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5">Hi,<br>
+ <br>
+ It&#39;s me (the guy from Costa Rica). I uploaded a demo of the splash
+ screen that I made today. It is just a demo. You can download it
+ from here:<br>
+ <br>
+ Before (one of Mageia&#39;s 2 alpha screens): <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png" target="_blank">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</a><br>
+ After (just the background on gray color): <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png" target="_blank">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br>
+ <br>
+ Please, let me know what you think (I think it needs more color).
+ I need to place some icons showing what the people can do with
+ Mageia (desktop, desing, play, develop, etc). And I want to try
+ other colors. I have a lot of work on these days, but I&#39;ll try to
+ help.<br clear="all">
+ <br>
+ -- <br>
+ Esteban Mora<br>
+ Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972" target="_blank">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>
+ ----------------------<br>
+ La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas
+ cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+ </div></div><pre><fieldset></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Looks ok to me :). I thought the artwork team needed to know about
+ your artwork as well, and so the artwork team mailing list in the to
+ as well. <br>
+ <br>
+ I would suggest joining the artwork team mailing list if you haven&#39;t
+ already and sending emails about artwork to it.<br>
+ </div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+<div dir="ltr">I am not qualified to send such announcements to the marcom list.<br>And Trish told me that she would try to be there, and most likely would.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
+
+
+
+
+
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Looks like the email should have sent to the marketing team mailing
+ list as well.<br>
+ <br>
+ I assume the time of the meeting will be at 7pm GMT/UTC.<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ I hope Trish will be at the meeting :).<br>
+ <br>
+ -------- Original Message --------
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Subject: </th>
+ <td>[Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
+ <td>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:08:12 +0200</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
+ <td>Max Quarterpleen <a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">&lt;bogusman222@gmail.com&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Reply-To:
+ </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org" target="_blank">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">To: </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org" target="_blank">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table><div><div class="h5">
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <div dir="ltr">Hi everybody.<br>
+ Tonight there will be a meeting in #mageia-marcom to discuss the
+ resolution of bug 4651 (installer images).<br>
+ Please make an effort to be there, because this is something that
+ we really need to work on.<br>
+ Have a good day!<br>
+ Max<br>
+ </div>
+ </div></div></div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">I am not qualified to send such announcements to the marcom list.<br>And Trish told me that she would try to be there, and most likely would.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 29, 2012 at 5:12 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
+
+
+
+
+
+ <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Looks like the email should have sent to the marketing team mailing
+ list as well.<br>
+ <br>
+ I assume the time of the meeting will be at 7pm GMT/UTC.<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ I hope Trish will be at the meeting :).<br>
+ <br>
+ -------- Original Message --------
+ <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Subject: </th>
+ <td>[Mageia-artwork] [Mageia-Artwork] Meeting tonight</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
+ <td>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 09:08:12 +0200</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
+ <td>Max Quarterpleen <a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">&lt;bogusman222@gmail.com&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">Reply-To:
+ </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org" target="_blank">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">To: </th>
+ <td>Mageia artwork discussion and work list
+ <a href="mailto:mageia-artwork@mageia.org" target="_blank">&lt;mageia-artwork@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table><div><div class="h5">
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <div dir="ltr">Hi everybody.<br>
+ Tonight there will be a meeting in #mageia-marcom to discuss the
+ resolution of bug 4651 (installer images).<br>
+ Please make an effort to be there, because this is something that
+ we really need to work on.<br>
+ Have a good day!<br>
+ Max<br>
+ </div>
+ </div></div></div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
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+ On 02/03/12 01:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120302121530.1c31bc13@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+I'll take a look at this on the weekend and come back if I have
+questions</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Ok :).<br>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120302121530.1c31bc13@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap=""> - thanks for the hard work!
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">As you know you asked me on IRC for more information about the IRC
+cloaks.
+
+Mageia needs to be registered first on Freenode as a group. Whoever
+set up the original Mageia channels such as #mageia and #mageia-dev
+has hopefully probably already done this over a year ago.
+
+Then once Mageia is officially registered with Freenode, a group
+contact can do certain things such as asking the Freenode staff to
+give contributors IRC cloaks.
+
+I already knew about this, but my other email didn't explain how to
+do it.
+
+Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested, and
+here are links:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml">http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml</a>
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration</a>
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-groups">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-groups</a>
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml">http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml</a>
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/gms.shtml">http://freenode.net/gms.shtml</a>
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
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+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 02/03/12 01:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120302121530.1c31bc13@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+I'll take a look at this on the weekend and come back if I have
+questions</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Ok :).<br>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120302121530.1c31bc13@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap=""> - thanks for the hard work!
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">As you know you asked me on IRC for more information about the IRC
+cloaks.
+
+Mageia needs to be registered first on Freenode as a group. Whoever
+set up the original Mageia channels such as #mageia and #mageia-dev
+has hopefully probably already done this over a year ago.
+
+Then once Mageia is officially registered with Freenode, a group
+contact can do certain things such as asking the Freenode staff to
+give contributors IRC cloaks.
+
+I already knew about this, but my other email didn't explain how to
+do it.
+
+Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested, and
+here are links:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml">http://freenode.net/group_registration.shtml</a>
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#groupregistration</a>
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-groups">http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#contents-groups</a>
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml">http://freenode.net/primary_groups.shtml</a>
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://freenode.net/gms.shtml">http://freenode.net/gms.shtml</a>
+
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
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+ On 05/03/12 22:45, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306094503.29e86da4@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Josh!
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">I'd be happy to assist as deputy team leader. I'd love to be more
+active in marketing, and this may be a good opportunity for me. I do
+have some experience with marketing and community relationship
+building.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Brilliant - thanks for stepping up!
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Is there anything else required to volunteer to be on the ballot?
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Not that I know of! Just being willing is more than enough - we're all
+working it out as we go along.
+
+So, candidates at the moment are:
+
+Me
+Josh
+
+- anyone else want to pitch in?
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Hi<br>
+ <br>
+ I was wondering when Trish would email about that since i18n has
+ been sorting out theirs.<br>
+ <br>
+ According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+ leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two
+ people can have the same position as well:
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html</a><br>
+ <br>
+ What is the difference between the leader and the deputy leader
+ exactly? I would like to be able to represent the marketing team in
+ the council meeting, so I guess that means I am putting myself down
+ for a vote on being a representative, however I would like to do
+ this with someone else as well such as Trish.<br>
+ <br>
+ This is what I would like I think:<br>
+ <br>
+ Leader: Trish<br>
+ Deputy Leader: Josh<br>
+ Council representatives: Trish and myself<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
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+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 05/03/12 22:45, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306094503.29e86da4@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Josh!
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">I'd be happy to assist as deputy team leader. I'd love to be more
+active in marketing, and this may be a good opportunity for me. I do
+have some experience with marketing and community relationship
+building.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Brilliant - thanks for stepping up!
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Is there anything else required to volunteer to be on the ballot?
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Not that I know of! Just being willing is more than enough - we're all
+working it out as we go along.
+
+So, candidates at the moment are:
+
+Me
+Josh
+
+- anyone else want to pitch in?
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Hi<br>
+ <br>
+ I was wondering when Trish would email about that since i18n has
+ been sorting out theirs.<br>
+ <br>
+ According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+ leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two
+ people can have the same position as well:
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html</a><br>
+ <br>
+ What is the difference between the leader and the deputy leader
+ exactly? I would like to be able to represent the marketing team in
+ the council meeting, so I guess that means I am putting myself down
+ for a vote on being a representative, however I would like to do
+ this with someone else as well such as Trish.<br>
+ <br>
+ This is what I would like I think:<br>
+ <br>
+ Leader: Trish<br>
+ Deputy Leader: Josh<br>
+ Council representatives: Trish and myself<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ On 06/03/12 08:38, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306193831.6f011bfb@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+I'm afraid we ran out of time for this at the meeting, but don't
+despair!
+
+I do now know who the people are to approach; please could you leave it
+with me, and I'll follow up. Everyone's pretty busy with the
+pre-release things, so I don't want to be annoying - we'll get there,
+but we might need to be a bit patient.
+
+I think it might be best to leave it off the discuss list for now, for
+that reason - what do you think?
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Misc gave me a good reply on that mailing list explaining things,
+ however this is still something that I think should get properly
+ sorted out in the future sometime this year ideally before Mageia 2!<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
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+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 06/03/12 08:38, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306193831.6f011bfb@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+I'm afraid we ran out of time for this at the meeting, but don't
+despair!
+
+I do now know who the people are to approach; please could you leave it
+with me, and I'll follow up. Everyone's pretty busy with the
+pre-release things, so I don't want to be annoying - we'll get there,
+but we might need to be a bit patient.
+
+I think it might be best to leave it off the discuss list for now, for
+that reason - what do you think?
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Misc gave me a good reply on that mailing list explaining things,
+ however this is still something that I think should get properly
+ sorted out in the future sometime this year ideally before Mageia 2!<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Hi Trish<br>
+ <br>
+ Good this is being done now. I thought about contacting you about
+ it, because the translations team (i18n) was doing it.<br>
+ <br>
+ Agreed it was not clear in the meeting about how many people could
+ be team council representatives.<br>
+ <br>
+ Sounds good to me giving it 24-48 hours or so for the time zones,
+ and then voting :).<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ <br>
+ On 05/03/12 23:41, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306104133.563e11be@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi!
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two
+people can have the same position as well:
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html</a>
+
+What is the difference between the leader and the deputy leader
+exactly? I would like to be able to represent the marketing team in
+the council meeting, so I guess that means I am putting myself down
+for a vote on being a representative, however I would like to do this
+with someone else as well such as Trish.
+
+This is what I would like I think:
+
+Leader: Trish
+Deputy Leader: Josh
+Council representatives: Trish and myself
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+I'm not sure whether we get 2 slots on council - I'll ask. Someone
+mentioned it at the meeting today, but I didn't think the answer was
+very clear.
+
+So, let's see if anyone else puts their hand up - give it 24-48 hours
+for the time zones to go round, and then we'll vote, okay?
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Hi Trish<br>
+ <br>
+ Good this is being done now. I thought about contacting you about
+ it, because the translations team (i18n) was doing it.<br>
+ <br>
+ Agreed it was not clear in the meeting about how many people could
+ be team council representatives.<br>
+ <br>
+ Sounds good to me giving it 24-48 hours or so for the time zones,
+ and then voting :).<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ <br>
+ On 05/03/12 23:41, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306104133.563e11be@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi!
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">According to the council meeting their seems to be three positions,
+leader, deputy leader, and council representative. and that two
+people can have the same position as well:
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-05-20.22.log.html</a>
+
+What is the difference between the leader and the deputy leader
+exactly? I would like to be able to represent the marketing team in
+the council meeting, so I guess that means I am putting myself down
+for a vote on being a representative, however I would like to do this
+with someone else as well such as Trish.
+
+This is what I would like I think:
+
+Leader: Trish
+Deputy Leader: Josh
+Council representatives: Trish and myself
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+I'm not sure whether we get 2 slots on council - I'll ask. Someone
+mentioned it at the meeting today, but I didn't think the answer was
+very clear.
+
+So, let's see if anyone else puts their hand up - give it 24-48 hours
+for the time zones to go round, and then we'll vote, okay?
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Sending this again, because there was a problem trying to send
+ before:<br>
+ <br>
+ -------- Original Message --------
+ <table class="moz-email-headers-table" border="0" cellpadding="0"
+ cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Subject: </th>
+ <td>Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
+ <td>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:23:53 +0000</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
+ <td>Sebastian sebsebseb <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">&lt;sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">To: </th>
+ <td>Mageia marketing team discussion list
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">&lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ On 06/03/12 08:38, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306193831.6f011bfb@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">I'm afraid we ran out of time for this at the meeting, but don't
+despair!
+
+I do now know who the people are to approach; please could you leave it
+with me, and I'll follow up. Everyone's pretty busy with the
+pre-release things, so I don't want to be annoying - we'll get there,
+but we might need to be a bit patient.
+
+I think it might be best to leave it off the discuss list for now, for
+that reason - what do you think?
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap=""><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Misc gave me a good reply on that mailing list explaining things,
+ however this is still something that I think should get properly
+ sorted out in the future sometime this year ideally before Mageia 2!<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ Sending this again, because there was a problem trying to send
+ before:<br>
+ <br>
+ -------- Original Message --------
+ <table class="moz-email-headers-table" border="0" cellpadding="0"
+ cellspacing="0">
+ <tbody>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Subject: </th>
+ <td>Re: [Mageia-marketing] Mageia IRC cloaks</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
+ <td>Tue, 06 Mar 2012 14:23:53 +0000</td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
+ <td>Sebastian sebsebseb <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">&lt;sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">To: </th>
+ <td>Mageia marketing team discussion list
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">&lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt;</a></td>
+ </tr>
+ </tbody>
+ </table>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ On 06/03/12 08:38, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306193831.6f011bfb@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Please bring this up in the council meeting as you suggested
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">I'm afraid we ran out of time for this at the meeting, but don't
+despair!
+
+I do now know who the people are to approach; please could you leave it
+with me, and I'll follow up. Everyone's pretty busy with the
+pre-release things, so I don't want to be annoying - we'll get there,
+but we might need to be a bit patient.
+
+I think it might be best to leave it off the discuss list for now, for
+that reason - what do you think?
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap=""><fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Misc gave me a good reply on that mailing list explaining things,
+ however this is still something that I think should get properly
+ sorted out in the future sometime this year ideally before Mageia 2!<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120306/dc4fe99d/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120306/dc4fe99d/attachment-0001.html
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 06/03/12 10:02, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306210240.589fd462@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Wobo helped out with this link:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org</a>
+
+So, we have one rep on the council, and we decide who that will be -
+normally it's the team lead, but it can be anyone. That's one vote on
+council for each team. Anyone can attend a council meeting - we just
+get one vote, and our nominated representative does the voting.
+
+The idea of lead/deputy is that we have coverage even if the lead
+person has to dip out temporarily - so I think it's good if we can have
+2 people, because in the last 3 months I've been noticeably absent due
+to moving country. Hopefully that's going to improve from now on, but
+it's still good to have 2 people covering things.
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Oh ok one person for each position unless wobo is wrong. <br>
+ <br>
+ I agree it's good to have a leader and a deputy leader to help each
+ other, but having two council representatives could be quite good to
+ have at times as well really.&nbsp; <br>
+ <br>
+ In fact I was thinking about it earlier how at least in my
+ experience group things tend to have or may have two people for non
+ leading positions.<br>
+ <br>
+ Also at times a council representative can't easily attend a council
+ meeting, because of for example the time they are at in their time
+ zone, or can't attend it at all, because of being busy with
+ something else. In these kind of situations having two council
+ representatives for a team could be very useful. Even if the other
+ representative is just a substitute for when the main representative
+ is not at the meeting. Or even if the main representative does most
+ of the representing in a council meeting with the other as well. <br>
+ <br>
+ As for the council mailing list I assume both representatives should
+ be sending emails to it if their are two.<br>
+ <br>
+ Anyway it seems we will be voting for only one council
+ representative and so in that case my vote is for Trish or myself.<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 06/03/12 10:02, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120306210240.589fd462@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Wobo helped out with this link:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Org</a>
+
+So, we have one rep on the council, and we decide who that will be -
+normally it's the team lead, but it can be anyone. That's one vote on
+council for each team. Anyone can attend a council meeting - we just
+get one vote, and our nominated representative does the voting.
+
+The idea of lead/deputy is that we have coverage even if the lead
+person has to dip out temporarily - so I think it's good if we can have
+2 people, because in the last 3 months I've been noticeably absent due
+to moving country. Hopefully that's going to improve from now on, but
+it's still good to have 2 people covering things.
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ Oh ok one person for each position unless wobo is wrong. <br>
+ <br>
+ I agree it's good to have a leader and a deputy leader to help each
+ other, but having two council representatives could be quite good to
+ have at times as well really.&nbsp; <br>
+ <br>
+ In fact I was thinking about it earlier how at least in my
+ experience group things tend to have or may have two people for non
+ leading positions.<br>
+ <br>
+ Also at times a council representative can't easily attend a council
+ meeting, because of for example the time they are at in their time
+ zone, or can't attend it at all, because of being busy with
+ something else. In these kind of situations having two council
+ representatives for a team could be very useful. Even if the other
+ representative is just a substitute for when the main representative
+ is not at the meeting. Or even if the main representative does most
+ of the representing in a council meeting with the other as well. <br>
+ <br>
+ As for the council mailing list I assume both representatives should
+ be sending emails to it if their are two.<br>
+ <br>
+ Anyway it seems we will be voting for only one council
+ representative and so in that case my vote is for Trish or myself.<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ On 06/03/12 19:49, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120307064915.1f375ca9@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Oh ok one person for each position unless wobo is wrong.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+You checked the link, yes? I think he's right. And given that marcom is
+still a very small team, I think we can get away with just 2 - team
+lead and deputy.
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">I agree it's good to have a leader and a deputy leader to help each
+other, but having two council representatives could be quite good to
+have at times as well really.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Maybe when we're bigger, but once all teams have reps on council, it
+will still be quite a large council. The idea is, as I see it, that if
+the team lead isn't available, the deputy attends in their place - for
+instance, if TeaAge isn't going to be available as artwork team lead,
+he pings Max and Max attends as artwork rep (which is what's happening
+now because TeaAge is busy).
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">In fact I was thinking about it earlier how at least in my experience
+group things tend to have or may have two people for non leading
+positions.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Maybe if marcom gets to be a big team 8-)...
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">As for the council mailing list I assume both representatives should
+be sending emails to it if their are two.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Just one - team lead if they're available, deputy if they aren't. That
+keeps it manageable.
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Anyway it seems we will be voting for only one council representative
+and so in that case my vote is for Trish or myself.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+You can't vote for yourself! If you're the only candidate, you would be
+elected unopposed, but otherwise, you have to vote for someone else or
+you have to abstain.
+
+There's plenty of work to do, so we're all needed - whether we get an
+official role or not, everyone who contributes is important.
+
+And sometimes our ideas get up and sometimes they don't (or not yet) -
+this is a community, so there's always got to be a bit of give and
+take.
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ That was a very good reply I think.<br>
+ </body>
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+ On 06/03/12 19:49, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120307064915.1f375ca9@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi Seb,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Oh ok one person for each position unless wobo is wrong.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+You checked the link, yes? I think he's right. And given that marcom is
+still a very small team, I think we can get away with just 2 - team
+lead and deputy.
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">I agree it's good to have a leader and a deputy leader to help each
+other, but having two council representatives could be quite good to
+have at times as well really.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Maybe when we're bigger, but once all teams have reps on council, it
+will still be quite a large council. The idea is, as I see it, that if
+the team lead isn't available, the deputy attends in their place - for
+instance, if TeaAge isn't going to be available as artwork team lead,
+he pings Max and Max attends as artwork rep (which is what's happening
+now because TeaAge is busy).
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">In fact I was thinking about it earlier how at least in my experience
+group things tend to have or may have two people for non leading
+positions.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Maybe if marcom gets to be a big team 8-)...
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">As for the council mailing list I assume both representatives should
+be sending emails to it if their are two.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+Just one - team lead if they're available, deputy if they aren't. That
+keeps it manageable.
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Anyway it seems we will be voting for only one council representative
+and so in that case my vote is for Trish or myself.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+You can't vote for yourself! If you're the only candidate, you would be
+elected unopposed, but otherwise, you have to vote for someone else or
+you have to abstain.
+
+There's plenty of work to do, so we're all needed - whether we get an
+official role or not, everyone who contributes is important.
+
+And sometimes our ideas get up and sometimes they don't (or not yet) -
+this is a community, so there's always got to be a bit of give and
+take.
+
+Cheers!
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ That was a very good reply I think.<br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+Hi guys,<br><br>It&#39;s me, the guy from Costa Rica again. Didn&#39;t work today and I finally made five splash screens for Mageia 2 (texts included). Hope you like them. I&#39;ll love to see some of my work on Mageia 2. I&#39;m mailing them to the artwork team too. Let me know what you think.<br>
+<br>Mageia 1 splash screen: <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</a><br>Mageia 2 splash screen proposal: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br>
+<br>Splash screen #1: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</a><br>Splash screen #2: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</a><br>
+Splash screen #3: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</a><br>Splash screen #4: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</a><br>Splash screen #5: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</a><br>
+<br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hi guys,<br><br>It&#39;s me, the guy from Costa Rica again. Didn&#39;t work today and I finally made five splash screens for Mageia 2 (texts included). Hope you like them. I&#39;ll love to see some of my work on Mageia 2. I&#39;m mailing them to the artwork team too. Let me know what you think.<br>
+<br>Mageia 1 splash screen: <a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/before.png</a><br>Mageia 2 splash screen proposal: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/after.png</a><br>
+<br>Splash screen #1: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</a><br>Splash screen #2: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</a><br>
+Splash screen #3: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</a><br>Splash screen #4: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</a><br>Splash screen #5: <a href="http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</a><br>
+<br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hi guys,<br><br>Is there any news about the installation splash screens? I&#39;ve being a little lost (work issues) and I could&#39;ve missed something. I have one more meeting today and I can work a few hours them when I come back (if needed).<br clear="all">
+<br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hi guys,<br><br>Is there any news about the installation splash screens? I&#39;ve being a little lost (work issues) and I could&#39;ve missed something. I have one more meeting today and I can work a few hours them when I come back (if needed).<br clear="all">
+<br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hello from Costa Rica,<br><br>As requested, I&#39;ve added one more splash screen about the control center. I updated the screens to fit in 457x308. And also I removed the dots so you can arrange them in any order. You can download them here:<br>
+<br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</a><br>
+<a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06.png</a><br clear="all">
+<br>My idea when making the screens was to take the user by the hand and show him or her the great options that Mageia has to offer: a community that he or she can join, the idea of freedom of choice and the availability of applications for everything needed (drawing, office suites, Internet, etc). Thru the screens I try to convince the user that Mageia is the best choice. The design I use is based on the Mageia 1 interface, and give them some modern look and feel. To create them I used a little bit of Gimp and mostly Inkscape.<br>
+<br>Just to clarify some things, I didn&#39;t know that you already have some splash screens, I was finishing one social network monitoring project and can&#39;t follow all the threads. If you want to use them I&#39;ll will be glad and honored.<br>
+<br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hello from Costa Rica,<br><br>As requested, I&#39;ve added one more splash screen about the control center. I updated the screens to fit in 457x308. And also I removed the dots so you can arrange them in any order. You can download them here:<br>
+<br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03.png</a><br>
+<a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06.png</a><br clear="all">
+<br>My idea when making the screens was to take the user by the hand and show him or her the great options that Mageia has to offer: a community that he or she can join, the idea of freedom of choice and the availability of applications for everything needed (drawing, office suites, Internet, etc). Thru the screens I try to convince the user that Mageia is the best choice. The design I use is based on the Mageia 1 interface, and give them some modern look and feel. To create them I used a little bit of Gimp and mostly Inkscape.<br>
+<br>Just to clarify some things, I didn&#39;t know that you already have some splash screens, I was finishing one social network monitoring project and can&#39;t follow all the threads. If you want to use them I&#39;ll will be glad and honored.<br>
+<br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hi,<br><br>Here you have a new set of splash screens for the installation process. I mixed my design with Gaula&#39;s. I also adapted some of my original texts following the suggestions that I read on the messages. Hope you like them.<br>
+<br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01-2.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02-2.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03-2.png</a><br>
+<a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04-2.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05-2.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06-2.png</a><br>
+<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
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+Hi,<br><br>Here you have a new set of splash screens for the installation process. I mixed my design with Gaula&#39;s. I also adapted some of my original texts following the suggestions that I read on the messages. Hope you like them.<br>
+<br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/01-2.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/02-2.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/03-2.png</a><br>
+<a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/04-2.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/05-2.png</a><br><a href="http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06-2.png">http://www.estebanmora.com/mageia/06-2.png</a><br>
+<br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hi,<br><br>Alfter being treated twice as a guy who can&#39;t work in a community I have no other choice but to leave the community. But let me explain something before I remove my subscriptions to the lists. I joined the Mageia Marketing list trying to give back something to the distribution. My schedule constraints, due to my daily job and geographic location, makes it almost impossible to join the chats. My only reference is what I receive from the mail messages of the list, when I can read them. One day I noticed that Mageia needed better splash screens and I saw an opportunity to help. I draw a couple of screens and suggest some texts. The guys from Marketing ask me to join then the Artwork list as well. I rushed to create a set of screens and mail them to both lists before the deadline. Then I read that my screens didn&#39;t fit something (nobody has yet explained me what they didn&#39;t fit) and I rushed again to create a new set of screens trying to fix what i guess was wrong with the first set.<br>
+<br>Maybe you&#39;re right and I&#39;m not a community material. Maybe I joined without knowing how a community distribution work. Or maybe what I needed was a little introduction to how a community distribution works and what the rules are. But, after reading a couple of &quot;not so nice&quot; messages regarding my contribution to Mageia I feel that this is a community I don&#39;t want to belong.<br>
+<br>Good luck with Mageia.<br><br>Esteban<br><br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/3/11 Max Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div dir="ltr"><div>OK, time is of the essence, but here is where we stand:<br></div>We will be using Guala&#39;s images for the installer for Mga2. There are several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is the fact that those images were a group effort by the entire artwork and marcom teams. Esteban, we greatly appreciate all the hard work that you put in, and certainly the initiative that you showed. But Mageia is a community distribution, and that means that it is a team effort. A community is not merely a collection of individuals, but a group of people who work together. Esteban, you are clearly a very talented person and we would be more than happy if you were to join the artwork team and continue to contribute. I for one look forward to working with you in the future, but it needs to be done as part of a team. We&#39;ll probably hold on to those images of yours and use them (or a slight variation) for Mga3.<br>
+
+
+Trish told me that she would put together some text for Guala&#39;s images soon (within a day).<br>About whether the installer software will support svg images and multiple languages... That is a very good idea, but I think it may have simply come too late. Maybe next time? That will certainly require a lot of coordination with the i18n team as well as packagers.<br>
+
+
+Finally a question: who knows what needs to be done so that the final 10 PNGs will get packaged and ready to go for Beta 2?<br><br><div>These are the images we will be using:<br><span lang="en"><span><a href="http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
+
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+<a href="http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
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+<a href="http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
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+
+<a href="http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png</a><br>Keep in mind that the text there is temporary and at the end we will probably only use 5 of them (each one twice with different text).<br>
+
+Have a good evening (or whatever).<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>Max</font></span></span></span><br></div></div>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-artwork mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+Hi,<br><br>Alfter being treated twice as a guy who can&#39;t work in a community I have no other choice but to leave the community. But let me explain something before I remove my subscriptions to the lists. I joined the Mageia Marketing list trying to give back something to the distribution. My schedule constraints, due to my daily job and geographic location, makes it almost impossible to join the chats. My only reference is what I receive from the mail messages of the list, when I can read them. One day I noticed that Mageia needed better splash screens and I saw an opportunity to help. I draw a couple of screens and suggest some texts. The guys from Marketing ask me to join then the Artwork list as well. I rushed to create a set of screens and mail them to both lists before the deadline. Then I read that my screens didn&#39;t fit something (nobody has yet explained me what they didn&#39;t fit) and I rushed again to create a new set of screens trying to fix what i guess was wrong with the first set.<br>
+<br>Maybe you&#39;re right and I&#39;m not a community material. Maybe I joined without knowing how a community distribution work. Or maybe what I needed was a little introduction to how a community distribution works and what the rules are. But, after reading a couple of &quot;not so nice&quot; messages regarding my contribution to Mageia I feel that this is a community I don&#39;t want to belong.<br>
+<br>Good luck with Mageia.<br><br>Esteban<br><br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/3/11 Max Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div dir="ltr"><div>OK, time is of the essence, but here is where we stand:<br></div>We will be using Guala&#39;s images for the installer for Mga2. There are several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is the fact that those images were a group effort by the entire artwork and marcom teams. Esteban, we greatly appreciate all the hard work that you put in, and certainly the initiative that you showed. But Mageia is a community distribution, and that means that it is a team effort. A community is not merely a collection of individuals, but a group of people who work together. Esteban, you are clearly a very talented person and we would be more than happy if you were to join the artwork team and continue to contribute. I for one look forward to working with you in the future, but it needs to be done as part of a team. We&#39;ll probably hold on to those images of yours and use them (or a slight variation) for Mga3.<br>
+
+
+Trish told me that she would put together some text for Guala&#39;s images soon (within a day).<br>About whether the installer software will support svg images and multiple languages... That is a very good idea, but I think it may have simply come too late. Maybe next time? That will certainly require a lot of coordination with the i18n team as well as packagers.<br>
+
+
+Finally a question: who knows what needs to be done so that the final 10 PNGs will get packaged and ready to go for Beta 2?<br><br><div>These are the images we will be using:<br><span lang="en"><span><a href="http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
+
+
+
+<a href="http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
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+<a href="http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
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+<a href="http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png</a><br>Keep in mind that the text there is temporary and at the end we will probably only use 5 of them (each one twice with different text).<br>
+
+Have a good evening (or whatever).<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>Max</font></span></span></span><br></div></div>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-artwork mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-artwork@mageia.org">Mageia-artwork@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Esteban Mora<br>Sgueme en Twitter en <a href="http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972">http://www.twitter.com/esteban1972</a><br>----------------------<br>La perfeccin no es cosa pequea, pero est hecha de pequeas cosas... Michelangelo Buonarroti<br>
+
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+<div dir="ltr"><div>OK, time is of the essence, but here is where we stand:<br></div>We will be using Guala&#39;s images for the installer for Mga2. There are several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is the fact that those images were a group effort by the entire artwork and marcom teams. Esteban, we greatly appreciate all the hard work that you put in, and certainly the initiative that you showed. But Mageia is a community distribution, and that means that it is a team effort. A community is not merely a collection of individuals, but a group of people who work together. Esteban, you are clearly a very talented person and we would be more than happy if you were to join the artwork team and continue to contribute. I for one look forward to working with you in the future, but it needs to be done as part of a team. We&#39;ll probably hold on to those images of yours and use them (or a slight variation) for Mga3.<br>
+
+Trish told me that she would put together some text for Guala&#39;s images soon (within a day).<br>About whether the installer software will support svg images and multiple languages... That is a very good idea, but I think it may have simply come too late. Maybe next time? That will certainly require a lot of coordination with the i18n team as well as packagers.<br>
+
+Finally a question: who knows what needs to be done so that the final 10 PNGs will get packaged and ready to go for Beta 2?<br><br><div>These are the images we will be using:<br><span lang="en"><span><a href="http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
+
+
+<a href="http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
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+<a href="http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
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+<a href="http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png</a><br>Keep in mind that the text there is temporary and at the end we will probably only use 5 of them (each one twice with different text).<br>
+Have a good evening (or whatever).<br>Max</span></span><br></div></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><div>OK, time is of the essence, but here is where we stand:<br></div>We will be using Guala&#39;s images for the installer for Mga2. There are several reasons behind this decision, but chief among them is the fact that those images were a group effort by the entire artwork and marcom teams. Esteban, we greatly appreciate all the hard work that you put in, and certainly the initiative that you showed. But Mageia is a community distribution, and that means that it is a team effort. A community is not merely a collection of individuals, but a group of people who work together. Esteban, you are clearly a very talented person and we would be more than happy if you were to join the artwork team and continue to contribute. I for one look forward to working with you in the future, but it needs to be done as part of a team. We&#39;ll probably hold on to those images of yours and use them (or a slight variation) for Mga3.<br>
+
+Trish told me that she would put together some text for Guala&#39;s images soon (within a day).<br>About whether the installer software will support svg images and multiple languages... That is a very good idea, but I think it may have simply come too late. Maybe next time? That will certainly require a lot of coordination with the i18n team as well as packagers.<br>
+
+Finally a question: who knows what needs to be done so that the final 10 PNGs will get packaged and ready to go for Beta 2?<br><br><div>These are the images we will be using:<br><span lang="en"><span><a href="http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/01_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
+
+
+<a href="http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/02_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/03_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/04_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
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+<a href="http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/05_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/06_IM_mageia.png</a><br><a href="http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/07_IM_mageia.png</a><br>
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+<a href="http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png" target="_blank">http://imgh.us/08_IM_mageia.png</a><br>Keep in mind that the text there is temporary and at the end we will probably only use 5 of them (each one twice with different text).<br>
+Have a good evening (or whatever).<br>Max</span></span><br></div></div>
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+Alright, you want to know more reasons? I&#39;ll give you more reasons.<br>See, both teams heard about this bug several weeks ago, and that should have been sufficient time to come up with a good solution and put it together in time for the artwork freeze. But that&#39;s provided that everybody actually does some work.<br>
+At the time I was going through finals and couldn&#39;t really help out (and then last week I was sick for several days and totally out of commission), but I saw this as something very important and sacrificed a lot of my time to try and pull this together. In fact, I sacrificed too much of my time and my grades suffered. But that was my choice to make and I alone have to face the consequences.<br>
+Now, in the past when there were things that needed doing and deadlines looming the same thing happened, one person did most or all of the work and saved the collective asses of his or her teammates.<br>I was sincerely hoping that we could prevent that from happening again, and maybe, maybe really work together this time and share the workload. And it appeared to be working.<br>
+And then Esteban showed up with a magical external solution which was very good, but very bad for the teams.<br><br>I did not want the responsibility of artwork team leader, but I had it thrust upon me due to various circumstances that were beyond my control. And rather than pass the buck I picked up the gauntlet and faced the challenge to the best of my abilities and time.<br>
+I tried to do what I thought would be best for Mageia in general, and the artwork team in particular in the long run. If that makes me a dick, fine. I didn&#39;t set out to be a dick and had only the best intentions. I still think that what I did is better for Mageia, and given the opportunity I would do it again, but it wouldn&#39;t be any easier.<br>
+I&#39;m very sorry that Esteban feels this way, that was entirely not my intention. In fact, I was up for over an hour last night (actually very early this morning) agonizing over that email, trying my best <b>not </b>to sound like a dick. I guess I failed there.<br>
+<br>Now, I am not going to resign in a huff and storm off, because that would be even worse. I don&#39;t know what I will do, but I&#39;m open to suggestions.<br>
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+Alright, you want to know more reasons? I&#39;ll give you more reasons.<br>See, both teams heard about this bug several weeks ago, and that should have been sufficient time to come up with a good solution and put it together in time for the artwork freeze. But that&#39;s provided that everybody actually does some work.<br>
+At the time I was going through finals and couldn&#39;t really help out (and then last week I was sick for several days and totally out of commission), but I saw this as something very important and sacrificed a lot of my time to try and pull this together. In fact, I sacrificed too much of my time and my grades suffered. But that was my choice to make and I alone have to face the consequences.<br>
+Now, in the past when there were things that needed doing and deadlines looming the same thing happened, one person did most or all of the work and saved the collective asses of his or her teammates.<br>I was sincerely hoping that we could prevent that from happening again, and maybe, maybe really work together this time and share the workload. And it appeared to be working.<br>
+And then Esteban showed up with a magical external solution which was very good, but very bad for the teams.<br><br>I did not want the responsibility of artwork team leader, but I had it thrust upon me due to various circumstances that were beyond my control. And rather than pass the buck I picked up the gauntlet and faced the challenge to the best of my abilities and time.<br>
+I tried to do what I thought would be best for Mageia in general, and the artwork team in particular in the long run. If that makes me a dick, fine. I didn&#39;t set out to be a dick and had only the best intentions. I still think that what I did is better for Mageia, and given the opportunity I would do it again, but it wouldn&#39;t be any easier.<br>
+I&#39;m very sorry that Esteban feels this way, that was entirely not my intention. In fact, I was up for over an hour last night (actually very early this morning) agonizing over that email, trying my best <b>not </b>to sound like a dick. I guess I failed there.<br>
+<br>Now, I am not going to resign in a huff and storm off, because that would be even worse. I don&#39;t know what I will do, but I&#39;m open to suggestions.<br>
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+I vote for Trish for team leader.<br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr" > <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Patricia Fraser &lt;trish@thefrasers.org&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Mageia marketing team discussion list &lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt; <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, March 12, 2012 12:49 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead<br> </font> </div> <br>
+Hi all,<BR><BR>We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead<BR>and deputy team lead.<BR><BR>Candidates are:<BR><BR>Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead<BR><BR>Bradley Thornton (tallship)<BR><BR>Sebastian (sebsebseb).<BR><BR>Please feel free to ask any candidate anything relating to the election<BR>or the positions they're standing for.<BR><BR>I'd like to throw voting open as at 11:00 UTC 12 May 2012 - in about<BR>10 minutes from now - and close voting in 24 hours' time, at 11:00 UTC<BR>13 May 2012.<BR><BR>Please register your vote on the mailing list!<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>-- <BR>Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<BR>-35.67896, 142.66637<BR>Mon Mar 12 21:41:51 EST 2012<BR>GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a target="_blank" href="http://linuxcounter.net">linuxcounter.net</a><BR>hermes up 3 hour(s), 8 min.<BR>kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<BR>--<BR><br />_______________________________________________<BR>Mageia-marketing mailing list<BR><a
+ ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><BR><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target=_blank >https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><BR><br><br> </div> </div> \ No newline at end of file
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+I vote for Trish for team leader.<br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr" > <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Patricia Fraser &lt;trish@thefrasers.org&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Mageia marketing team discussion list &lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt; <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, March 12, 2012 12:49 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead<br> </font> </div> <br>
+Hi all,<BR><BR>We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead<BR>and deputy team lead.<BR><BR>Candidates are:<BR><BR>Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead<BR><BR>Bradley Thornton (tallship)<BR><BR>Sebastian (sebsebseb).<BR><BR>Please feel free to ask any candidate anything relating to the election<BR>or the positions they're standing for.<BR><BR>I'd like to throw voting open as at 11:00 UTC 12 May 2012 - in about<BR>10 minutes from now - and close voting in 24 hours' time, at 11:00 UTC<BR>13 May 2012.<BR><BR>Please register your vote on the mailing list!<BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>-- <BR>Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<BR>-35.67896, 142.66637<BR>Mon Mar 12 21:41:51 EST 2012<BR>GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a target="_blank" href="http://linuxcounter.net">linuxcounter.net</a><BR>hermes up 3 hour(s), 8 min.<BR>kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<BR>--<BR><br />_______________________________________________<BR>Mageia-marketing mailing list<BR><a
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+<p>This is true, it does need more thought. Although having a list of those properties is good.</p>
+<p>I don&#39;t really think xfce qualifies as a light de anymore....</p>
+<p>Sorry for the tp, on my phone.</p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 13 Mar 2012 02:22, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
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+<br>
+- --<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
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+<p>I don&#39;t really think xfce qualifies as a light de anymore....</p>
+<p>Sorry for the tp, on my phone.</p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 13 Mar 2012 02:22, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<br>
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+<br>
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+ Read that earlier and now replying :).<br>
+ <br>
+ Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours
+ before voting was over :), and yes now I am :).<br>
+ <br>
+ Thank You, Donald, Josh, and R&eacute;mi/Akien for voting for me :).<br>
+ <br>
+ On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120313231558.2fa768c3@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+and deputy team lead.
+
+Candidates are:
+
+Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+
+Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+
+Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+and Josh, my apologies again Josh!
+
+Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,
+the results are:
+
+Trish (for team leader): 6
+
+For deputy:
+
+Josh 1
+Bradley 1
+Seb 3
+
+I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't miscount;
+if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy and I'm still
+in the hot seat!
+
+Cheers,
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
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+ Read that earlier and now replying :).<br>
+ <br>
+ Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours
+ before voting was over :), and yes now I am :).<br>
+ <br>
+ Thank You, Donald, Josh, and R&eacute;mi/Akien for voting for me :).<br>
+ <br>
+ On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120313231558.2fa768c3@hermes" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+</pre>
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead
+and deputy team lead.
+
+Candidates are:
+
+Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead
+
+Bradley Thornton (tallship)
+
+Sebastian (sebsebseb).
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+and Josh, my apologies again Josh!
+
+Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,
+the results are:
+
+Trish (for team leader): 6
+
+For deputy:
+
+Josh 1
+Bradley 1
+Seb 3
+
+I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't miscount;
+if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy and I'm still
+in the hot seat!
+
+Cheers,
+
+</pre>
+ <pre wrap="">
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+I&#39;m UTC minus 5, if that helps any <br><br><br>----- Reply message -----<br>From: &quot;Donald Stewart&quot; &lt;watersnowrock@gmail.com&gt;<br>To: &quot;Mageia marketing team discussion list&quot; &lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt;<br>Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS<br>Date: Tue, Mar 13, 2012 4:18 pm<br><br><br>On 13 March 2012 18:51, Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; Read that earlier and now replying :).<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours before<br>&gt; voting was over :), and yes now I am :).<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Thank You, Donald, Josh, and Rémi/Akien for voting for me :).<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Hi all,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead<br>&gt; and deputy team lead.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Candidates are:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Bradley Thornton (tallship)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Sebastian (sebsebseb).<br>&gt;<br>&gt; and Josh, my apologies again Josh!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,<br>&gt; the results are:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Trish (for team leader): 6<br>&gt;<br>&gt; For deputy:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Josh 1<br>&gt; Bradley 1<br>&gt; Seb 3<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I&#39;d appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn&#39;t miscount;<br>&gt; if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you&#39;re the deputy and I&#39;m still<br>&gt; in the hot seat!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Cheers,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br>&gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br>&gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing<br>&gt;<br><br>Count looks good to me, congrats you two. At least there wasn&#39;t a<br>similar mix up to as with the artwork elections.<br><br>Hopefully I can be around more after uni settles.<br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br>https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing<br><br> \ No newline at end of file
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+I&#39;m UTC minus 5, if that helps any <br><br><br>----- Reply message -----<br>From: &quot;Donald Stewart&quot; &lt;watersnowrock@gmail.com&gt;<br>To: &quot;Mageia marketing team discussion list&quot; &lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt;<br>Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS<br>Date: Tue, Mar 13, 2012 4:18 pm<br><br><br>On 13 March 2012 18:51, Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; Read that earlier and now replying :).<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours before<br>&gt; voting was over :), and yes now I am :).<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Thank You, Donald, Josh, and Rémi/Akien for voting for me :).<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Hi all,<br>&gt;<br>&gt; We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead<br>&gt; and deputy team lead.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Candidates are:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Bradley Thornton (tallship)<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Sebastian (sebsebseb).<br>&gt;<br>&gt; and Josh, my apologies again Josh!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,<br>&gt; the results are:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Trish (for team leader): 6<br>&gt;<br>&gt; For deputy:<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Josh 1<br>&gt; Bradley 1<br>&gt; Seb 3<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I&#39;d appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn&#39;t miscount;<br>&gt; if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you&#39;re the deputy and I&#39;m still<br>&gt; in the hot seat!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Cheers,<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br>&gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing<br>&gt;<br>&gt;<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br>&gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing<br>&gt;<br><br>Count looks good to me, congrats you two. At least there wasn&#39;t a<br>similar mix up to as with the artwork elections.<br><br>Hopefully I can be around more after uni settles.<br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>Mageia-marketing@mageia.org<br>https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing<br><br> \ No newline at end of file
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+ <blockquote cite="mid:4F5E88B3.1030806@linuxpunks.com" type="cite">OK,
+ here are a few thoughts (consider them my planks for running if
+ you like, even though that's not my intent). I see a lot of
+ lurkers, and&nbsp; a decent amount of people who want to join in Mageia
+ but seem to be a little timid. I think we are attracting many
+ first time contributors - which is awesome!! But Maybe a bit more
+ hand holding or other infrastructure would work.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ For example, when I joined the packaging team I was welcomed with
+ open arms, given a mentor, and several places to go to ask
+ questions. It was in a word, friggin sweet (ok that's 2 words)!
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ My point in all of this is I'd love to see something that gives
+ the average user an "foot in the door" to working within Mageia.
+ As much as I hate to admit it, this is one thing Ubuntu and to a
+ lesser extent Fedora do very well.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ This is the total brainstorming part but maybe it will get the
+ ball rolling. Why not a mageia-users team/council seat? Marketing
+ of the viral kind would be amazing for us, and who better to do
+ that than excited and enthusiastic users? I'm not talking any pay
+ for membership thing, but for a user to say, my application was
+ accepted to the mageia-users team means something to many people.
+ I don't pretend that any of these ideas are particularly good, but
+ just some thinking I've been doing about bridging the gap between
+ dev/teams/ and community.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I'd love to hear ideas and thoughts on this. With Mga 2 coming up,
+ I'd love to see us making a splash with something more than just
+ download and visit the forum once in awhile.
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm; }a:link { }</style>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">I agree and really everyone who uses
+ Mageia
+ is part of the community.<br>
+ <br>
+ There are many ways people can
+ contribute to Mageia without being on an official team for it. For
+ example when I mentioned IRC cloaks on the Mageia discuss and
+ marketing mailing lists, I mentioned
+ how someone should be able to do a lot of Mageia support on IRC
+ and then receive
+ one. Well when Mageia has the IRC cloaks sorted out with Freenode
+ this is.<br>
+ <br>
+ With Ubuntu there's a guy who I assume still helps out a lot in
+ the big IRC channel, and as far as I know all he did for Ubuntu or
+ mainly, was IRC support, and as a result of becoming one of the
+ main
+ support people in the channel, he was able to become a Ubuntu
+ Community Member and get the IRC cloak for example.<br>
+ <br>
+ Another
+ example of contributing to Mageia, but not really as part of an
+ official team would be what I do with the #mageia-social channel.
+ I
+ build up the #mageia-social IRC channel, and welcome new users to
+ the
+ channel, and help keep people interested in the Mageia community.
+ However really this is done as a team in a way with the other
+ users of the
+ channel who tend to chat there :), because people in general
+ aren't
+ likely to stick around for long, if not that much happens in
+ there.<br>
+ <br>
+ Someone who uses the channel has even donated money
+ twice to Mageia, and he doesn't use the distribution at the
+ moment,
+ but he uses the #mageia-social channel :). <br>
+ <br>
+ Mageia can also be
+ mentioned and promoted on podcasts for example by people, be they
+ on
+ an official team for the project or not. In fact I went on a
+ podcast
+ for my first time as a guest, to talk about Mageia and Desktop
+ Linux
+ in general and so on last year, as I was slowly deciding what I
+ wanted to do for Mageia other than IRC and Identica stuff, before
+ I
+ joined any official teams. <br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Took me quite a while to join any
+ official
+ teams, although I had been thinking about marketing for a rather
+ long
+ time here and there before I joined, and talked to Trish on IRC a
+ few times about joining. Plus some stuff to do with the mailing
+ lists and what email address I would use before I joined any
+ teams.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Someone could make
+ tutorial videos for doing things with Mageia just for fun for
+ example
+ and not be on any official team for Mageia.<br>
+ <br>
+ Or someone could type
+ blog posts every now and again about Mageia, because they like the
+ distro and not be on any official teams for example.<br>
+ <br>
+ Someone could also
+ help to build up interest in person in their local area or
+ country, and not be
+ on any official Magiea teams, yep local communities. Oh and I
+ suggest
+ watching this video if haven't already seen it:
+ <a
+href="http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm">http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm</a>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ Also someone could help to gain interest in Mageia on social
+ networking sites and not be on any official teams.&nbsp; I did that
+ for a long time before joining any official teams using Identica,
+ although that was mainly to make sure news would show in the
+ Mageia
+ group as well, but still: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</a><br>
+ <br>
+ Really
+ everyone who uses Mageia is part of the world wide users community
+ :).<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </p>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <blockquote cite="mid:4F5E88B3.1030806@linuxpunks.com" type="cite">OK,
+ here are a few thoughts (consider them my planks for running if
+ you like, even though that's not my intent). I see a lot of
+ lurkers, and&nbsp; a decent amount of people who want to join in Mageia
+ but seem to be a little timid. I think we are attracting many
+ first time contributors - which is awesome!! But Maybe a bit more
+ hand holding or other infrastructure would work.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ For example, when I joined the packaging team I was welcomed with
+ open arms, given a mentor, and several places to go to ask
+ questions. It was in a word, friggin sweet (ok that's 2 words)!
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ My point in all of this is I'd love to see something that gives
+ the average user an "foot in the door" to working within Mageia.
+ As much as I hate to admit it, this is one thing Ubuntu and to a
+ lesser extent Fedora do very well.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ This is the total brainstorming part but maybe it will get the
+ ball rolling. Why not a mageia-users team/council seat? Marketing
+ of the viral kind would be amazing for us, and who better to do
+ that than excited and enthusiastic users? I'm not talking any pay
+ for membership thing, but for a user to say, my application was
+ accepted to the mageia-users team means something to many people.
+ I don't pretend that any of these ideas are particularly good, but
+ just some thinking I've been doing about bridging the gap between
+ dev/teams/ and community.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I'd love to hear ideas and thoughts on this. With Mga 2 coming up,
+ I'd love to see us making a splash with something more than just
+ download and visit the forum once in awhile.
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm; }a:link { }</style>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">I agree and really everyone who uses
+ Mageia
+ is part of the community.<br>
+ <br>
+ There are many ways people can
+ contribute to Mageia without being on an official team for it. For
+ example when I mentioned IRC cloaks on the Mageia discuss and
+ marketing mailing lists, I mentioned
+ how someone should be able to do a lot of Mageia support on IRC
+ and then receive
+ one. Well when Mageia has the IRC cloaks sorted out with Freenode
+ this is.<br>
+ <br>
+ With Ubuntu there's a guy who I assume still helps out a lot in
+ the big IRC channel, and as far as I know all he did for Ubuntu or
+ mainly, was IRC support, and as a result of becoming one of the
+ main
+ support people in the channel, he was able to become a Ubuntu
+ Community Member and get the IRC cloak for example.<br>
+ <br>
+ Another
+ example of contributing to Mageia, but not really as part of an
+ official team would be what I do with the #mageia-social channel.
+ I
+ build up the #mageia-social IRC channel, and welcome new users to
+ the
+ channel, and help keep people interested in the Mageia community.
+ However really this is done as a team in a way with the other
+ users of the
+ channel who tend to chat there :), because people in general
+ aren't
+ likely to stick around for long, if not that much happens in
+ there.<br>
+ <br>
+ Someone who uses the channel has even donated money
+ twice to Mageia, and he doesn't use the distribution at the
+ moment,
+ but he uses the #mageia-social channel :). <br>
+ <br>
+ Mageia can also be
+ mentioned and promoted on podcasts for example by people, be they
+ on
+ an official team for the project or not. In fact I went on a
+ podcast
+ for my first time as a guest, to talk about Mageia and Desktop
+ Linux
+ in general and so on last year, as I was slowly deciding what I
+ wanted to do for Mageia other than IRC and Identica stuff, before
+ I
+ joined any official teams. <br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Took me quite a while to join any
+ official
+ teams, although I had been thinking about marketing for a rather
+ long
+ time here and there before I joined, and talked to Trish on IRC a
+ few times about joining. Plus some stuff to do with the mailing
+ lists and what email address I would use before I joined any
+ teams.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Someone could make
+ tutorial videos for doing things with Mageia just for fun for
+ example
+ and not be on any official team for Mageia.<br>
+ <br>
+ Or someone could type
+ blog posts every now and again about Mageia, because they like the
+ distro and not be on any official teams for example.<br>
+ <br>
+ Someone could also
+ help to build up interest in person in their local area or
+ country, and not be
+ on any official Magiea teams, yep local communities. Oh and I
+ suggest
+ watching this video if haven't already seen it:
+ <a
+href="http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm">http://video.fosdem.org/2012/crossdistro/Working_with_contributor_communities__round_table_.webm</a>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ Also someone could help to gain interest in Mageia on social
+ networking sites and not be on any official teams.&nbsp; I did that
+ for a long time before joining any official teams using Identica,
+ although that was mainly to make sure news would show in the
+ Mageia
+ group as well, but still: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</a><br>
+ <br>
+ Really
+ everyone who uses Mageia is part of the world wide users community
+ :).<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </p>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Patricia Fraser &lt;trish@thefrasers.org&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> mageia-marketing@mageia.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:34 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS<br> </font> </div> <br>Hi<br><br>Midnight UTC is 2 AM for me :D <br>It is my go to bed time, but i try to stay awake at least for while :)<br>
+<br>
+tumbeliina<br>
+<br><br><br><br>
+Okay!<br><br>Can we please start a piratepad here:<br><br>http://bn.parinux.org/<br><br>(it's more robust than piratepad itself, but if you're not comfortable<br>with it being in French, piratepad is piratepad.net.)<br><br>Whoever starts it, please email the link to the actual collaborative<br>document to the list. If you could paste in the texts we have so far -<br>mine, Seb's, other suggestions - we'll have somewhere to start. Once<br>the doc is up, we can work on it together if we're awake together or<br>separately if we're not!<br><br>Seb is UTC, you(Josh)'re UTC -5, Bradley is sleeping (I think), I'm<br>UTC+11.<br><br>I am going on trusty old <a target="_blank" href="http://timeanddate.com">timeanddate.com</a>, and this is what it looks<br>like:<br><br>http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?year=2012&amp;month=3&amp;day=14&amp;p1=152&amp;p2=263<br><br>If you guys are okay to do it in a couple of hours' time - say midnight<br>UTC for
+ an hour, because that's going to be plenty of time - I'm<br>available then. Otherwise, get started and I'll check in once I have<br>the link.<br><br>Cheers!<br><br><br><br>&gt; I'm UTC minus 5, if that helps any <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; ----- Reply message -----<br>&gt; From: "Donald Stewart" &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com" href="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com">watersnowrock@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>&gt; To: "Mageia marketing team discussion list"<br>&gt; &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt; Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for<br>&gt; our team lead and deputy lead -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RESULTS Date: Tue, Mar 13,<br>&gt; 2012 4:18 pm<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; On 13 March 2012 18:51, Sebastian sebsebseb<br>&gt; &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com" href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt;
+ wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; Read that earlier and now replying :).<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours<br>&gt; &gt; before voting was over :), and yes now I am :).<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Thank You, Donald, Josh, and Rmi/Akien for voting for me :).<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Hi all,<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead<br>&gt; &gt; and deputy team lead.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Candidates are:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Bradley Thornton (tallship)<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Sebastian (sebsebseb).<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; and Josh, my apologies again Josh!<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,<br>&gt; &gt; the results are:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
+ &gt; Trish (for team leader): 6<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; For deputy:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Josh&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1<br>&gt; &gt; Bradley&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1<br>&gt; &gt; Seb&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't<br>&gt; &gt; miscount; if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy<br>&gt; &gt; and I'm still in the hot seat!<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Cheers,<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; &gt; <a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>&gt; &gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;
+ _______________________________________________<br>&gt; &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; &gt; <a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>&gt; &gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Count looks good to me, congrats you two. At least there wasn't a<br>&gt; similar mix up to as with the artwork elections.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hopefully I can be around more after uni settles.<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; <a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>&gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing"
+ target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>&gt; <br><br><br><br>-- <br>Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>-35.67896, 142.66637<br>Wed Mar 14 08:24:36 EST 2012<br>GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a target="_blank" href="http://linuxcounter.net">linuxcounter.net</a><br>hermes up 10 hour(s), 0 min.<br>kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>--<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br><br><br> </div> </div> </div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span><br></span></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Patricia Fraser &lt;trish@thefrasers.org&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> mageia-marketing@mageia.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, March 13, 2012 11:34 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for our team lead and deputy lead - RESULTS<br> </font> </div> <br>Hi<br><br>Midnight UTC is 2 AM for me :D <br>It is my go to bed time, but i try to stay awake at least for while :)<br>
+<br>
+tumbeliina<br>
+<br><br><br><br>
+Okay!<br><br>Can we please start a piratepad here:<br><br>http://bn.parinux.org/<br><br>(it's more robust than piratepad itself, but if you're not comfortable<br>with it being in French, piratepad is piratepad.net.)<br><br>Whoever starts it, please email the link to the actual collaborative<br>document to the list. If you could paste in the texts we have so far -<br>mine, Seb's, other suggestions - we'll have somewhere to start. Once<br>the doc is up, we can work on it together if we're awake together or<br>separately if we're not!<br><br>Seb is UTC, you(Josh)'re UTC -5, Bradley is sleeping (I think), I'm<br>UTC+11.<br><br>I am going on trusty old <a target="_blank" href="http://timeanddate.com">timeanddate.com</a>, and this is what it looks<br>like:<br><br>http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/meetingtime.html?year=2012&amp;month=3&amp;day=14&amp;p1=152&amp;p2=263<br><br>If you guys are okay to do it in a couple of hours' time - say midnight<br>UTC for
+ an hour, because that's going to be plenty of time - I'm<br>available then. Otherwise, get started and I'll check in once I have<br>the link.<br><br>Cheers!<br><br><br><br>&gt; I'm UTC minus 5, if that helps any <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; ----- Reply message -----<br>&gt; From: "Donald Stewart" &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com" href="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com">watersnowrock@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>&gt; To: "Mageia marketing team discussion list"<br>&gt; &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:mageia-marketing@mageia.org">mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>&gt; Subject: [Mageia-marketing] Voting for<br>&gt; our team lead and deputy lead -&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RESULTS Date: Tue, Mar 13,<br>&gt; 2012 4:18 pm<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; On 13 March 2012 18:51, Sebastian sebsebseb<br>&gt; &lt;<a ymailto="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com" href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt;
+ wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; Read that earlier and now replying :).<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Looked like I was going to become the deputy leader a few hours<br>&gt; &gt; before voting was over :), and yes now I am :).<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Thank You, Donald, Josh, and Rmi/Akien for voting for me :).<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; On 13/03/12 12:15, Patricia Fraser wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Hi all,<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; We have 3 candidates for two positions on the marcom team: team lead<br>&gt; &gt; and deputy team lead.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Candidates are:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Trish Fraser (trishf42), current team lead<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Bradley Thornton (tallship)<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Sebastian (sebsebseb).<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; and Josh, my apologies again Josh!<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Voting is now closed. According to my count of votes cast on the ML,<br>&gt; &gt; the results are:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;
+ &gt; Trish (for team leader): 6<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; For deputy:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Josh&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1<br>&gt; &gt; Bradley&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1<br>&gt; &gt; Seb&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; I'd appreciate someone doing a re-count to make sure I didn't<br>&gt; &gt; miscount; if their tally agrees with mine, Seb, you're the deputy<br>&gt; &gt; and I'm still in the hot seat!<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Cheers,<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; &gt; <a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>&gt; &gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;
+ _______________________________________________<br>&gt; &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; &gt; <a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>&gt; &gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Count looks good to me, congrats you two. At least there wasn't a<br>&gt; similar mix up to as with the artwork elections.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Hopefully I can be around more after uni settles.<br>&gt; _______________________________________________<br>&gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>&gt; <a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>&gt; <a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing"
+ target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>&gt; <br><br><br><br>-- <br>Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>-35.67896, 142.66637<br>Wed Mar 14 08:24:36 EST 2012<br>GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a target="_blank" href="http://linuxcounter.net">linuxcounter.net</a><br>hermes up 10 hour(s), 0 min.<br>kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>--<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br><a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br><br><br> </div> </div> </div></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<div dir="ltr">I agree.<br>One channel of communication, separate council seats.<br>We probably need two defacto leaders (council seats) but I think one deputy (whose job is just to pick up the slack if a leader is unavailable) is enough.<br>
+</div>
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+<div dir="ltr">I agree.<br>One channel of communication, separate council seats.<br>We probably need two defacto leaders (council seats) but I think one deputy (whose job is just to pick up the slack if a leader is unavailable) is enough.<br>
+</div>
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+<p>Im for it. They&#39;re are many people on both teams and most if not all projects are connected.</p>
+<p>However, meetings and whatnot should remain separate. Although that OS probably getting ahead of myself.</p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 15 Mar 2012 20:44, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+There&#39;s a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,<br>
+to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and<br>
+artwork.<br>
+<br>
+What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it&#39;s<br>
+very important to marketing), so I wouldn&#39;t have any problem with it<br>
+personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.<br>
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Fri Mar 16 07:41:48 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+hermes up 0 hour(s), 30 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
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+<br></blockquote></p>
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+<p>Im for it. They&#39;re are many people on both teams and most if not all projects are connected.</p>
+<p>However, meetings and whatnot should remain separate. Although that OS probably getting ahead of myself.</p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 15 Mar 2012 20:44, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+There&#39;s a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,<br>
+to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and<br>
+artwork.<br>
+<br>
+What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it&#39;s<br>
+very important to marketing), so I wouldn&#39;t have any problem with it<br>
+personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.<br>
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Fri Mar 16 07:41:48 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+hermes up 0 hour(s), 30 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
+--<br>
+</font><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></p>
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+I think too that it makes sense to merge art and marcom :)<br /><br />Good art is the best marketing. <br /><br />tumbeliina<br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr" > <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Josh King &lt;josh@linuxpunks.com&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Mageia marketing team discussion list &lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt; <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:55 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork<br> </font> </div> <br>
+On 03/15/2012 03:44 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:<BR>&gt; Hi all,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; There's a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,<BR>&gt; to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and<BR>&gt; artwork.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it's<BR>&gt; very important to marketing), so I wouldn't have any problem with it<BR>&gt; personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cheers,<BR><BR>I think it makes sense to merge them. Maybe MArtCom team? ;-)<BR><BR>Personally what I would really like to see is more community outreach type functions; getting users involved in more areas. Something like a planet for mageia users even might be a good start? Anyway, I've been kicking around some ideas and will put them up to the group once they've
+ solidified.<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR>Josh<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Mageia-marketing mailing list<BR><a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><BR><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target=_blank >https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><BR><br><br> </div> </div> \ No newline at end of file
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+I think too that it makes sense to merge art and marcom :)<br /><br />Good art is the best marketing. <br /><br />tumbeliina<br> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr" > <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Josh King &lt;josh@linuxpunks.com&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Mageia marketing team discussion list &lt;mageia-marketing@mageia.org&gt; <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, March 15, 2012 10:55 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Mageia-marketing] Proposal to merge with artwork<br> </font> </div> <br>
+On 03/15/2012 03:44 PM, Patricia Fraser wrote:<BR>&gt; Hi all,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; There's a proposal on the table that marcom and artwork should merge,<BR>&gt; to make a single team responsible for marketing, communications and<BR>&gt; artwork.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; What does everyone think? I have worked with artwork quite a lot (it's<BR>&gt; very important to marketing), so I wouldn't have any problem with it<BR>&gt; personally - but everyone should have their say before we go ahead.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Cheers,<BR><BR>I think it makes sense to merge them. Maybe MArtCom team? ;-)<BR><BR>Personally what I would really like to see is more community outreach type functions; getting users involved in more areas. Something like a planet for mageia users even might be a good start? Anyway, I've been kicking around some ideas and will put them up to the group once they've
+ solidified.<BR><BR>Thanks!<BR>Josh<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Mageia-marketing mailing list<BR><a ymailto="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><BR><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target=_blank >https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><BR><br><br> </div> </div> \ No newline at end of file
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
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+ On 17/03/12, Bradley D. Thornton typed:<br>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:4F649C63.1030506@NorthTech.US" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Anyway, my post won't make any difference
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm;</style>I think it
+ already has :). I think that
+ was a very good message. I do however think that it is a good idea
+ to
+ completely merge with the artwork team and how I had suggested in my
+ email to this mailing list and the artwork. Why? Simple, because
+ then
+ as a whole there will be more control, over a team that has been
+ having problems. <br>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">The big MArtCom team can be split up
+ into
+ sub teams of people who are only or mainly working on specific
+ tasks,
+ but members in our team can provide feedback and support for tasks
+ that are being worked on by other people in the team as well.&nbsp;
+ For example graphics designers could be working on the installer
+ slide show images, but also provide feedback about the installer
+ slide show text from marketing people.&nbsp; Or marketing team people
+ could be working on reviews, but also provide feedback of the
+ looks
+ of the graphics.<br>
+ <br>
+ Trish has been working with the artwork team
+ quite a lot in the last few months or more. I noticed this and
+ that was why I made sure to join the artwork team mailing list,
+ and
+ so the team as well as a result, soon after joining marketing,
+ even
+ though not really a graphics designer.<br>
+ <br>
+ Something else it seems
+ the marketing and artwork team IRC meetings have been linked
+ together
+ as to when they are for which team. For example one week is
+ marketing
+ and the next is artwork and at that time, or that's meant to be
+ the
+ idea in general.<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ Bradley glad you seem to be
+ feeling better :).<br>
+ </p>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ On 17/03/12, Bradley D. Thornton typed:<br>
+ <blockquote cite="mid:4F649C63.1030506@NorthTech.US" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Anyway, my post won't make any difference
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm;</style>I think it
+ already has :). I think that
+ was a very good message. I do however think that it is a good idea
+ to
+ completely merge with the artwork team and how I had suggested in my
+ email to this mailing list and the artwork. Why? Simple, because
+ then
+ as a whole there will be more control, over a team that has been
+ having problems. <br>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">The big MArtCom team can be split up
+ into
+ sub teams of people who are only or mainly working on specific
+ tasks,
+ but members in our team can provide feedback and support for tasks
+ that are being worked on by other people in the team as well.&nbsp;
+ For example graphics designers could be working on the installer
+ slide show images, but also provide feedback about the installer
+ slide show text from marketing people.&nbsp; Or marketing team people
+ could be working on reviews, but also provide feedback of the
+ looks
+ of the graphics.<br>
+ <br>
+ Trish has been working with the artwork team
+ quite a lot in the last few months or more. I noticed this and
+ that was why I made sure to join the artwork team mailing list,
+ and
+ so the team as well as a result, soon after joining marketing,
+ even
+ though not really a graphics designer.<br>
+ <br>
+ Something else it seems
+ the marketing and artwork team IRC meetings have been linked
+ together
+ as to when they are for which team. For example one week is
+ marketing
+ and the next is artwork and at that time, or that's meant to be
+ the
+ idea in general.<br>
+ <br>
+ P.S<br>
+ <br>
+ Bradley glad you seem to be
+ feeling better :).<br>
+ </p>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
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+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
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+ I think Max's email explains it very well. <br>
+ <br>
+ Just want to add the council representative is usually the leader or
+ deputy leader depending on the meeting it seems for Mageia teams,
+ however I think for Mageia teams that it would be good if both the
+ leader and deputy leader could be this together at council meetings
+ together for example.<br>
+ <br>
+ On 17/03/12 18:43, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kyisy5BJH0o5FcuGknGHkYGcgYMwS7ha6LokLfa1kF8Fbg@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">Think of it this way: both artwork and marcom are
+ concerned with the appearance of Mageia. It's all about how we
+ present ourselves to the world. Whether it's a shiny desktop,
+ eye catching posters or good content on podcasts. It all boils
+ down to the same thing: how we look to the outside world.<br>
+ One of main problems we have with this is good communication.
+ It's not just this one project where the two teams need to work
+ together, but it's many projects. Thinking back for a few
+ seconds I recall the booth setup for FOSDEM, the posters, the
+ disc covers and a few other projects where both teams needed to
+ work together.<br>
+ Aside from the lack of cooperation <i>within</i> the team,
+ there was bad communication <i>between</i> teams. Efforts have
+ been made in the past to try and amplify the cooperation, by
+ staggering IRC meetings, by having people sign up for both
+ mailing lists... but they never worked well. Most recently when
+ we tried to collaborate we had many double posts on both lists,
+ many redundant threads and many people being left out of the
+ loop. Why? Because we were trying to communicate across two
+ different lists and more or less the same people.<br>
+ Now, to clarify: the proposal isn't to merge the actual teams,
+ just the communication channels. There will be (under the new
+ proposal) one mailing list and one IRC channel. But essentially
+ both teams will function as before. Each team will have one
+ leader and one council representative (probably the same person
+ for each team) and one deputy. This way both teams can function
+ as a single unit when it comes to cross-communication and idea
+ sharing (which happens a lot), but each team retains its
+ autonomy.<br>
+ </div>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ <title></title>
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ I think Max's email explains it very well. <br>
+ <br>
+ Just want to add the council representative is usually the leader or
+ deputy leader depending on the meeting it seems for Mageia teams,
+ however I think for Mageia teams that it would be good if both the
+ leader and deputy leader could be this together at council meetings
+ together for example.<br>
+ <br>
+ On 17/03/12 18:43, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kyisy5BJH0o5FcuGknGHkYGcgYMwS7ha6LokLfa1kF8Fbg@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">Think of it this way: both artwork and marcom are
+ concerned with the appearance of Mageia. It's all about how we
+ present ourselves to the world. Whether it's a shiny desktop,
+ eye catching posters or good content on podcasts. It all boils
+ down to the same thing: how we look to the outside world.<br>
+ One of main problems we have with this is good communication.
+ It's not just this one project where the two teams need to work
+ together, but it's many projects. Thinking back for a few
+ seconds I recall the booth setup for FOSDEM, the posters, the
+ disc covers and a few other projects where both teams needed to
+ work together.<br>
+ Aside from the lack of cooperation <i>within</i> the team,
+ there was bad communication <i>between</i> teams. Efforts have
+ been made in the past to try and amplify the cooperation, by
+ staggering IRC meetings, by having people sign up for both
+ mailing lists... but they never worked well. Most recently when
+ we tried to collaborate we had many double posts on both lists,
+ many redundant threads and many people being left out of the
+ loop. Why? Because we were trying to communicate across two
+ different lists and more or less the same people.<br>
+ Now, to clarify: the proposal isn't to merge the actual teams,
+ just the communication channels. There will be (under the new
+ proposal) one mailing list and one IRC channel. But essentially
+ both teams will function as before. Each team will have one
+ leader and one council representative (probably the same person
+ for each team) and one deputy. This way both teams can function
+ as a single unit when it comes to cross-communication and idea
+ sharing (which happens a lot), but each team retains its
+ autonomy.<br>
+ </div>
+ <pre wrap="">
+<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<div dir="ltr">Think of it this way: both artwork and marcom are concerned with the appearance of Mageia. It&#39;s all about how we present ourselves to the world. Whether it&#39;s a shiny desktop, eye catching posters or good content on podcasts. It all boils down to the same thing: how we look to the outside world.<br>
+One of main problems we have with this is good communication. It&#39;s not just this one project where the two teams need to work together, but it&#39;s many projects. Thinking back for a few seconds I recall the booth setup for FOSDEM, the posters, the disc covers and a few other projects where both teams needed to work together.<br>
+Aside from the lack of cooperation <i>within</i> the team, there was bad communication <i>between</i> teams. Efforts have been made in the past to try and amplify the cooperation, by
+ staggering IRC meetings, by having people sign up for both mailing
+lists... but they never worked well. Most recently when we tried to collaborate we had many double posts on both lists, many redundant threads and many people being left out of the loop. Why? Because we were trying to communicate across two different lists and more or less the same people.<br>
+Now, to clarify: the proposal isn&#39;t to merge the actual teams, just the communication channels. There will be (under the new proposal) one mailing list and one IRC channel. But essentially both teams will function as before. Each team will have one leader and one council representative (probably the same person for each team) and one deputy. This way both teams can function as a single unit when it comes to cross-communication and idea sharing (which happens a lot), but each team retains its autonomy.<br>
+</div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Think of it this way: both artwork and marcom are concerned with the appearance of Mageia. It&#39;s all about how we present ourselves to the world. Whether it&#39;s a shiny desktop, eye catching posters or good content on podcasts. It all boils down to the same thing: how we look to the outside world.<br>
+One of main problems we have with this is good communication. It&#39;s not just this one project where the two teams need to work together, but it&#39;s many projects. Thinking back for a few seconds I recall the booth setup for FOSDEM, the posters, the disc covers and a few other projects where both teams needed to work together.<br>
+Aside from the lack of cooperation <i>within</i> the team, there was bad communication <i>between</i> teams. Efforts have been made in the past to try and amplify the cooperation, by
+ staggering IRC meetings, by having people sign up for both mailing
+lists... but they never worked well. Most recently when we tried to collaborate we had many double posts on both lists, many redundant threads and many people being left out of the loop. Why? Because we were trying to communicate across two different lists and more or less the same people.<br>
+Now, to clarify: the proposal isn&#39;t to merge the actual teams, just the communication channels. There will be (under the new proposal) one mailing list and one IRC channel. But essentially both teams will function as before. Each team will have one leader and one council representative (probably the same person for each team) and one deputy. This way both teams can function as a single unit when it comes to cross-communication and idea sharing (which happens a lot), but each team retains its autonomy.<br>
+</div>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm; }</style>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Hi<br>
+ <br>
+ Been recently thinking about it
+ again how I shouldn't need to resend (re dent) Mageia news to the
+ Mageia group on Identica, or make my own messages with the news
+ instead to the
+ group, because the Mageia account should be sending to it in the
+ first place and ideally the tag as well.
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/mageia">http://identi.ca/mageia</a>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/tag/mageia">http://identi.ca/tag/mageia</a><br>
+ <br>
+ Last year for example when mentioning
+ the Identica issue on IRC at times, there was a time when&nbsp; I was
+ told to contact
+ the marketing mailing list about it. Something that I didn't
+ bother to do at the time.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I think
+ that the news should go to where it is meant to on, Twitter,
+ Facebook, and Identica, but also other sites such as Google+.<br>
+ <br>
+ With
+ another program news can be sent from Diaspora which like Identica
+ is
+ a open social networking site.&nbsp; News can be sent from Diaspora
+ to Identica, and then from Identica to Twitter.&nbsp; Then I think&nbsp;
+ some how news can be sent directly from Twitter to Facebook as
+ well. Twitter does not have an official way to send to Identica.<br>
+ <br>
+ The
+ current way of sending the news has not been working that well for
+ a
+ long time now, and it would be great if this issue can be finally
+ properly sorted out. <br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">I am rather used to my work around
+ sending the news myself to Identica's Mageia group and tag, but
+ this
+ is still an issue that I think should be properly sorted out. Not
+ that long ago I also sent some myself to Diaspora.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">There is also someone who it seems
+ wants to promote Mageia more on Diaspora, but it seems that many
+ of those messages will also go to other sites as well such as
+ Identica and Twitter.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">In the past the Mageia account has
+ sent to
+ the Mageia group, but very rarely.<br>
+ <br>
+ Just being a bit more clear
+ Identica has a bridge to Twitter it will even convert ! to #.&nbsp; !
+ is used to send to the !mageia&nbsp; group for example and # is used
+ to send to the tag.<br>
+ <br>
+ When I re dent news I make sure it
+ gets sent to both the group and tag.&nbsp; In the past on Identica !
+ would send to the tag as well, but that hasn't been the case since
+ when the site got re designed last year and new features got
+ added.<br>
+ <br>
+ We should also be taking all of the social networking
+ sites seriously where Mageia has a presence, and so really
+ Identica
+ should still be mentioned on the site as well for example.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Before Mageia 1 Identica and Twitter
+ were both mentioned on <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://magiea.org">http://magiea.org</a>, but then Magiea 1 got
+ released and Identica stopped being mentioned.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">I
+ hope that this message makes enough sense, but if not I can try
+ and
+ explain better later on</p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">I would also like to become an admin
+ of the Mageia Identica group, so that I can deal with any fake
+ accounts for example.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">For a long time the Mageia group on
+ Identica didn't even have a display picture, even though the
+ Mageia account had a logo for quite a while.I had even been in
+ communication on Identica with people who were wondering about
+ that before.&nbsp; <br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">One day suddenly the group had the
+ logo, and someone else had been made an admin of the group, I
+ assume it was them who uploaded the logo as well. I contacted them
+ about how they had been made admin, but only to get a reply I
+ hadn't been expecting. I later found the Identica conversation
+ that they had with @support requesting to become an admin of that
+ group..<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </p>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm; }</style>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Hi<br>
+ <br>
+ Been recently thinking about it
+ again how I shouldn't need to resend (re dent) Mageia news to the
+ Mageia group on Identica, or make my own messages with the news
+ instead to the
+ group, because the Mageia account should be sending to it in the
+ first place and ideally the tag as well.
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/mageia">http://identi.ca/mageia</a>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/tag/mageia">http://identi.ca/tag/mageia</a><br>
+ <br>
+ Last year for example when mentioning
+ the Identica issue on IRC at times, there was a time when&nbsp; I was
+ told to contact
+ the marketing mailing list about it. Something that I didn't
+ bother to do at the time.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I think
+ that the news should go to where it is meant to on, Twitter,
+ Facebook, and Identica, but also other sites such as Google+.<br>
+ <br>
+ With
+ another program news can be sent from Diaspora which like Identica
+ is
+ a open social networking site.&nbsp; News can be sent from Diaspora
+ to Identica, and then from Identica to Twitter.&nbsp; Then I think&nbsp;
+ some how news can be sent directly from Twitter to Facebook as
+ well. Twitter does not have an official way to send to Identica.<br>
+ <br>
+ The
+ current way of sending the news has not been working that well for
+ a
+ long time now, and it would be great if this issue can be finally
+ properly sorted out. <br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">I am rather used to my work around
+ sending the news myself to Identica's Mageia group and tag, but
+ this
+ is still an issue that I think should be properly sorted out. Not
+ that long ago I also sent some myself to Diaspora.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">There is also someone who it seems
+ wants to promote Mageia more on Diaspora, but it seems that many
+ of those messages will also go to other sites as well such as
+ Identica and Twitter.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">In the past the Mageia account has
+ sent to
+ the Mageia group, but very rarely.<br>
+ <br>
+ Just being a bit more clear
+ Identica has a bridge to Twitter it will even convert ! to #.&nbsp; !
+ is used to send to the !mageia&nbsp; group for example and # is used
+ to send to the tag.<br>
+ <br>
+ When I re dent news I make sure it
+ gets sent to both the group and tag.&nbsp; In the past on Identica !
+ would send to the tag as well, but that hasn't been the case since
+ when the site got re designed last year and new features got
+ added.<br>
+ <br>
+ We should also be taking all of the social networking
+ sites seriously where Mageia has a presence, and so really
+ Identica
+ should still be mentioned on the site as well for example.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Before Mageia 1 Identica and Twitter
+ were both mentioned on <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://magiea.org">http://magiea.org</a>, but then Magiea 1 got
+ released and Identica stopped being mentioned.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">I
+ hope that this message makes enough sense, but if not I can try
+ and
+ explain better later on</p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">I would also like to become an admin
+ of the Mageia Identica group, so that I can deal with any fake
+ accounts for example.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">For a long time the Mageia group on
+ Identica didn't even have a display picture, even though the
+ Mageia account had a logo for quite a while.I had even been in
+ communication on Identica with people who were wondering about
+ that before.&nbsp; <br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">One day suddenly the group had the
+ logo, and someone else had been made an admin of the group, I
+ assume it was them who uploaded the logo as well. I contacted them
+ about how they had been made admin, but only to get a reply I
+ hadn't been expecting. I later found the Identica conversation
+ that they had with @support requesting to become an admin of that
+ group..<br>
+ <br>
+ From Sebastian sebsebseb<br>
+ </p>
+ </body>
+</html>
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@@ -0,0 +1,105 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm; }a:link { }</style>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Hello fellow team members :).<br>
+ <br>
+ Last
+ year I was on a podcast for my first time, towards the end of
+ September, when I went on one as a
+ guest. It was a very general episode mentioning&nbsp; Mageia,
+ Mandriva, Ubuntu, PC Linux OS, Gnome, KDE, and so on, that was
+ rather long, with some music in it as well. It was a
+ special episode that had been arranged with the hosts who I had
+ already known on IRC for about two years or so. The other host
+ wasn't
+ in the episode.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">This was before I had joined any
+ official
+ Mageia teams and was thinking still about if I wanted to join any
+ or not, such as marketing and QA. However just like now I was
+ around on
+ IRC a lot then and had IRC channels such as #mageia-uk and
+ #mageia-social, and still got those now. I was also messaging
+ quite a
+ lot about Mageia on Identica although mainly to make sure that the
+ news would show in the group ( <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</a> ) as
+ well, but sometimes about Mageia with
+ people who were interested in it as well for example. <br>
+ <br>
+ I had
+ also on IRC talked to one of the Mageia founders about going on
+ the podcast
+ with him at some stage a few times, and he agreed. This hasn't
+ happened yet, but may happen in the future.<br>
+ <br>
+ Next time I go on
+ this particular podcast I can go on as a proper official Mageia
+ marketing team
+ representative :), and they will have me on again no problem in
+ the
+ future :).<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">It had been in the plans for me to be
+ on it as a guest, for quite a long time before I did go on it. I
+ have listened to all of their episodes so far including the test
+ episode. However it has been quite a while since they last had
+ one, because the other host is busy with other things a lot at the
+ moment. <br>
+ <br>
+ I know
+ someone from Identica who has a podcast where he mentioned Mageia
+ 1
+ in his first and second episode for example a bit. He was going to
+ review it, but then Grub issues. <br>
+ <br>
+ I asked him last week if I
+ could go on it as a guest to talk about Mageia and he suggested
+ doing
+ a pre recorded message for a 3rd of May episode of his
+ podcast.<br>
+ <a href="http://identi.ca/notice/91893908">http://identi.ca/notice/91893908</a>
+ <a href="http://identi.ca/conversation/91624243">http://identi.ca/conversation/91624243</a><br>
+ <br>
+ More
+ recently he also does a podcast with someone who used to be on the
+ one I was a guest on, a lot for about a year or so. The one I went
+ on
+ as a guest for my very first time on a podcast.<br>
+ <br>
+ I asked him
+ last week if I could go on his podcast and no problem. I mentioned
+ adding it to our WIKI, and he suggested mentioning it being&nbsp;
+ NSFW.&nbsp; Not Safe For Work as in for example contains swearing
+ sometimes.&nbsp; <br>
+ <br>
+ if I am going to guest on it talking
+ officially about Mageia I will request that the episode is kept
+ SFW
+ Safe For Work first.&nbsp; <br>
+ <br>
+ I guess it doesn't really matter
+ if normally a podcast usually has swearing in it for example, that
+ I
+ may later go on as an official Mageia spokes person. When it comes
+ to
+ telling people about the episode, or in the case of the WIKI about
+ the podcast in general? Other than for example probably mentioning
+ something about the swearing? What are your thoughts about this?
+ What
+ do you think?&nbsp; This is the main reason for this email message to
+ find that out.<br>
+ <br>
+ As for podcast contents when on them talking
+ officially about Mageia, what do you think should be mentioned?<br>
+ <br>
+ From
+ Sebastian<br>
+ </p>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#ffffff">
+ <style type="text/css">p { margin-bottom: 0.21cm; }a:link { }</style>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">Hello fellow team members :).<br>
+ <br>
+ Last
+ year I was on a podcast for my first time, towards the end of
+ September, when I went on one as a
+ guest. It was a very general episode mentioning&nbsp; Mageia,
+ Mandriva, Ubuntu, PC Linux OS, Gnome, KDE, and so on, that was
+ rather long, with some music in it as well. It was a
+ special episode that had been arranged with the hosts who I had
+ already known on IRC for about two years or so. The other host
+ wasn't
+ in the episode.<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">This was before I had joined any
+ official
+ Mageia teams and was thinking still about if I wanted to join any
+ or not, such as marketing and QA. However just like now I was
+ around on
+ IRC a lot then and had IRC channels such as #mageia-uk and
+ #mageia-social, and still got those now. I was also messaging
+ quite a
+ lot about Mageia on Identica although mainly to make sure that the
+ news would show in the group ( <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://identi.ca/group/mageia">http://identi.ca/group/mageia</a> ) as
+ well, but sometimes about Mageia with
+ people who were interested in it as well for example. <br>
+ <br>
+ I had
+ also on IRC talked to one of the Mageia founders about going on
+ the podcast
+ with him at some stage a few times, and he agreed. This hasn't
+ happened yet, but may happen in the future.<br>
+ <br>
+ Next time I go on
+ this particular podcast I can go on as a proper official Mageia
+ marketing team
+ representative :), and they will have me on again no problem in
+ the
+ future :).<br>
+ </p>
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm;">It had been in the plans for me to be
+ on it as a guest, for quite a long time before I did go on it. I
+ have listened to all of their episodes so far including the test
+ episode. However it has been quite a while since they last had
+ one, because the other host is busy with other things a lot at the
+ moment. <br>
+ <br>
+ I know
+ someone from Identica who has a podcast where he mentioned Mageia
+ 1
+ in his first and second episode for example a bit. He was going to
+ review it, but then Grub issues. <br>
+ <br>
+ I asked him last week if I
+ could go on it as a guest to talk about Mageia and he suggested
+ doing
+ a pre recorded message for a 3rd of May episode of his
+ podcast.<br>
+ <a href="http://identi.ca/notice/91893908">http://identi.ca/notice/91893908</a>
+ <a href="http://identi.ca/conversation/91624243">http://identi.ca/conversation/91624243</a><br>
+ <br>
+ More
+ recently he also does a podcast with someone who used to be on the
+ one I was a guest on, a lot for about a year or so. The one I went
+ on
+ as a guest for my very first time on a podcast.<br>
+ <br>
+ I asked him
+ last week if I could go on his podcast and no problem. I mentioned
+ adding it to our WIKI, and he suggested mentioning it being&nbsp;
+ NSFW.&nbsp; Not Safe For Work as in for example contains swearing
+ sometimes.&nbsp; <br>
+ <br>
+ if I am going to guest on it talking
+ officially about Mageia I will request that the episode is kept
+ SFW
+ Safe For Work first.&nbsp; <br>
+ <br>
+ I guess it doesn't really matter
+ if normally a podcast usually has swearing in it for example, that
+ I
+ may later go on as an official Mageia spokes person. When it comes
+ to
+ telling people about the episode, or in the case of the WIKI about
+ the podcast in general? Other than for example probably mentioning
+ something about the swearing? What are your thoughts about this?
+ What
+ do you think?&nbsp; This is the main reason for this email message to
+ find that out.<br>
+ <br>
+ As for podcast contents when on them talking
+ officially about Mageia, what do you think should be mentioned?<br>
+ <br>
+ From
+ Sebastian<br>
+ </p>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<div dir="ltr">Alright people, it&#39;s time to start the discussion on the new installer images (or more accurately, continue from last week&#39;s meeting).<br>A good jumping off point would be the texts.<br>We have 5 texts, but some people mostly me) are unhappy with them. I think that there should be more of an emphasis on the unique qualities of Mageia rather than pointing out all of the things that we do just like any other Linux distro.<br>
+The current texts are:<br><br>
+1. Mageia isn&#39;t just a Linux distribution: we&#39;re a community of<br>
+ users, developers and advocates from around the world.<br>
+<br>
+2. Free software means choice: KDE, GNOME, LXDE or other desktops;<br>
+ Firefox, Chromium and other browsers; Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution<br>
+ for mail...<br>
+<br>
+3. Mageia covers your graphics, your video creation and editing needs<br>
+ with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...<br>
+<br>
+4. Mageia&#39;s Control Center gives you easy-access tools to set up<br>
+ your hardware, software and more, all in one place.<br>
+<br>
+5. For your everyday and office needs, LibreOffice, GnuCash,<br>
+ KMyMoney and others cover word processing, spreadsheets,<br>
+ presentations and finance.<br><br>So that means that I&#39;m happy with 1 and 4, but less happy with the other three.<br>Maybe if it was the other way around: 3 texts describing the uniqueness of Mageia and 2 describing other things. Or better yet, 4 or 5 texts describing the uniqueness of Mageia, but I know that that is less likely and less easy.<br>
+<br>Once we have settled on the texts (or even as we thrash them out) we should discuss ideas of what the images should be.<br>Some rules:<br><ul><li>There should be a common theme/look to all images.</li><li>We need to make sure that we don&#39;t change or distort any group/compan logos, including our own.</li>
+<li>The texts need to be clear and visible.<br></li></ul></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Alright people, it&#39;s time to start the discussion on the new installer images (or more accurately, continue from last week&#39;s meeting).<br>A good jumping off point would be the texts.<br>We have 5 texts, but some people mostly me) are unhappy with them. I think that there should be more of an emphasis on the unique qualities of Mageia rather than pointing out all of the things that we do just like any other Linux distro.<br>
+The current texts are:<br><br>
+1. Mageia isn&#39;t just a Linux distribution: we&#39;re a community of<br>
+ users, developers and advocates from around the world.<br>
+<br>
+2. Free software means choice: KDE, GNOME, LXDE or other desktops;<br>
+ Firefox, Chromium and other browsers; Thunderbird, KMail, Evolution<br>
+ for mail...<br>
+<br>
+3. Mageia covers your graphics, your video creation and editing needs<br>
+ with tools like GIMP, Inkscape, Blender...<br>
+<br>
+4. Mageia&#39;s Control Center gives you easy-access tools to set up<br>
+ your hardware, software and more, all in one place.<br>
+<br>
+5. For your everyday and office needs, LibreOffice, GnuCash,<br>
+ KMyMoney and others cover word processing, spreadsheets,<br>
+ presentations and finance.<br><br>So that means that I&#39;m happy with 1 and 4, but less happy with the other three.<br>Maybe if it was the other way around: 3 texts describing the uniqueness of Mageia and 2 describing other things. Or better yet, 4 or 5 texts describing the uniqueness of Mageia, but I know that that is less likely and less easy.<br>
+<br>Once we have settled on the texts (or even as we thrash them out) we should discuss ideas of what the images should be.<br>Some rules:<br><ul><li>There should be a common theme/look to all images.</li><li>We need to make sure that we don&#39;t change or distort any group/compan logos, including our own.</li>
+<li>The texts need to be clear and visible.<br></li></ul></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+1) The number of slides to be used<br></blockquote><div></div><div>5 <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+2) How long each slide displays for?<br></blockquote><div></div><div>Not up to us, that&#39;s the scripting. I think maybe a minute? <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+3) The word count/limit per slide<br></blockquote><div><br>Depends on 2.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+4) The subject/theme for each slide<br></blockquote><div><br>What we&#39;ve been trying to discuss. <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+5) Will content be localised for different languages?<br></blockquote><div><br>Probably not for Mga2, maybe 3. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<br>
+<br>
+After this we can work out more detailed text and any image(s) for each slide.<br></blockquote><div><br>We should start that NOW. <br><br>Also, why start a new thread for this topic?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+(Additionally, sound during install should have an option to mute - a &quot;ta da&quot; sound after installing in business environments may be inappropriate. Especially on multiple machines in a single environment. Just saying.)<br>
+
+______________________________<u></u>_________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/<u></u>mailman/listinfo/mageia-<u></u>marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+1) The number of slides to be used<br></blockquote><div></div><div>5 <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+2) How long each slide displays for?<br></blockquote><div></div><div>Not up to us, that&#39;s the scripting. I think maybe a minute? <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+3) The word count/limit per slide<br></blockquote><div><br>Depends on 2.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+4) The subject/theme for each slide<br></blockquote><div><br>What we&#39;ve been trying to discuss. <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+5) Will content be localised for different languages?<br></blockquote><div><br>Probably not for Mga2, maybe 3. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<br>
+<br>
+After this we can work out more detailed text and any image(s) for each slide.<br></blockquote><div><br>We should start that NOW. <br><br>Also, why start a new thread for this topic?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+(Additionally, sound during install should have an option to mute - a &quot;ta da&quot; sound after installing in business environments may be inappropriate. Especially on multiple machines in a single environment. Just saying.)<br>
+
+______________________________<u></u>_________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/<u></u>mailman/listinfo/mageia-<u></u>marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
+ On 28/03/12 01:15, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr"><br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
+ .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ 1) The number of slides to be used<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div>&nbsp;</div>
+ <div>5 <br>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Cool. Just wanted to be clear.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ 2) How long each slide displays for?<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div>&nbsp;</div>
+ <div>Not up to us, that's the scripting. I think maybe a
+ minute? <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ A very important priority to find this out. <br>
+ <br>
+ Will it be overall install time divided by 5 - or will the slides
+ loop?<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ 3) The word count/limit per slide<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ Depends on 2.<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ Finding this number should be really, really high on the To Do list!<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <div>&nbsp;</div>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ 4) The subject/theme for each slide<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ What we've been trying to discuss. <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Indeed.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ 5) Will content be localised for different languages?<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ Probably not for Mga2, maybe 3. <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Good to know. Thanks! Saves a LOT of work.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ <br>
+ After this we can work out more detailed text and any
+ image(s) for each slide.<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ We should start that NOW. <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ With due respect, how can you paint a house until you build the
+ walls? You need structure. Hence getting a word limit and overall
+ topic for each slide first.<br>
+ <br>
+ You cannot just write words. No writer does this. You start with
+ structure - theme and word count.<br>
+ <br>
+ If the limit is 5 big words and 20 smaller words (for example) that
+ dictates everything we are trying to write. It is pointless to come
+ up with words without a proper format.<br>
+ <br>
+ So I'm establishing the order in which this process needs to be
+ tackled, if we are being professional. A free-for-all over words is
+ not efficient. <br>
+ <br>
+ If my help is not wanted, I'll step back quietly. Just let me know!<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <div><br>
+ Also, why start a new thread for this topic?<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I'm sorry if this is not correct procedure. I wanted a straight
+ answer to some points and I'm getting about 100 emails a day on
+ various Mageia subjects. So I did it for "clarity" as labelled in
+ the subject. This is a forked sub-subject about organising and I
+ wanted to treat it as such.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ (Additionally, sound during install should have an option to
+ mute - a "ta da" sound after installing in business
+ environments may be inappropriate. Especially on multiple
+ machines in a single environment. Just saying.)<br>
+ _______________________________________________<br>
+ Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing"
+ target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
+ On 28/03/12 01:15, Max Quarterpleen wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr"><br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
+ .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ 1) The number of slides to be used<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div>&nbsp;</div>
+ <div>5 <br>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Cool. Just wanted to be clear.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ 2) How long each slide displays for?<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div>&nbsp;</div>
+ <div>Not up to us, that's the scripting. I think maybe a
+ minute? <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ A very important priority to find this out. <br>
+ <br>
+ Will it be overall install time divided by 5 - or will the slides
+ loop?<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ 3) The word count/limit per slide<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ Depends on 2.<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ Finding this number should be really, really high on the To Do list!<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <div>&nbsp;</div>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ 4) The subject/theme for each slide<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ What we've been trying to discuss. <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Indeed.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <div><br>
+ </div>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ 5) Will content be localised for different languages?<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ Probably not for Mga2, maybe 3. <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Good to know. Thanks! Saves a LOT of work.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ <br>
+ After this we can work out more detailed text and any
+ image(s) for each slide.<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ We should start that NOW. <br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ With due respect, how can you paint a house until you build the
+ walls? You need structure. Hence getting a word limit and overall
+ topic for each slide first.<br>
+ <br>
+ You cannot just write words. No writer does this. You start with
+ structure - theme and word count.<br>
+ <br>
+ If the limit is 5 big words and 20 smaller words (for example) that
+ dictates everything we are trying to write. It is pointless to come
+ up with words without a proper format.<br>
+ <br>
+ So I'm establishing the order in which this process needs to be
+ tackled, if we are being professional. A free-for-all over words is
+ not efficient. <br>
+ <br>
+ If my help is not wanted, I'll step back quietly. Just let me know!<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <div><br>
+ Also, why start a new thread for this topic?<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I'm sorry if this is not correct procedure. I wanted a straight
+ answer to some points and I'm getting about 100 emails a day on
+ various Mageia subjects. So I did it for "clarity" as labelled in
+ the subject. This is a forked sub-subject about organising and I
+ wanted to treat it as such.<br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=Kygwx_m0WksPNbruxb-S6WNafktSMC=Ofry049n8ghF1tQ@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ (Additionally, sound during install should have an option to
+ mute - a "ta da" sound after installing in business
+ environments may be inappropriate. Especially on multiple
+ machines in a single environment. Just saying.)<br>
+ _______________________________________________<br>
+ Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+ <a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing"
+ target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<div dir="ltr">Alright people, we have our texts (pretty much). Everything else is just a matter of wording. Let&#39;s start talking artwork.<br>I like the basic design and color scheme for Guala&#39;s earlier images. Let&#39;s start with that.<br>
+How about:<br>1. Community - something like a LAN party, a whole bunch of stylized people sitting at computers with the Mageia logo on them.<br>2. International - Stylized globe or map of the world with Mageia cauldrons in various different places, connected as if a network.<br>
+3. Open Source - Maybe some snapshots of running applications.<br>4. MCC - Snapshots of the MCC.<br>5. Community - Maybe back to the first image, maybe a variation on the same thing.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Le 29 mars 2012 04:38, Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;<a href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com" target="_blank">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt; a crit :<br>
+
+
+<div>&gt; 1. Mageia isn&#39;t just a Linux distribution: we&#39;re a community of users, developers, and advocates from around the world. (18 words)<br>
+<br>
+</div>Positive form please: st like &quot;Mageia is more than&quot;<br>
+<div><br>
+&gt; 3. Mageia is Open Source - choose from thousands of app(lications)s. Office, Internet, Development, Education, and other types of software. (18 words)<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Open Source for 3 not Free Software since we have the tainted repo for example.<br>
+<br>
+</div>_nonfree_ isn&#39;t free software, and it&#39;s not open source either. Tainted is free software/open source but potentially subject to patents in some significant places for us.<br>
+<div><div>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Alright people, we have our texts (pretty much). Everything else is just a matter of wording. Let&#39;s start talking artwork.<br>I like the basic design and color scheme for Guala&#39;s earlier images. Let&#39;s start with that.<br>
+How about:<br>1. Community - something like a LAN party, a whole bunch of stylized people sitting at computers with the Mageia logo on them.<br>2. International - Stylized globe or map of the world with Mageia cauldrons in various different places, connected as if a network.<br>
+3. Open Source - Maybe some snapshots of running applications.<br>4. MCC - Snapshots of the MCC.<br>5. Community - Maybe back to the first image, maybe a variation on the same thing.<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Le 29 mars 2012 04:38, Sebastian sebsebseb &lt;<a href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com" target="_blank">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt; a crit :<br>
+
+
+<div>&gt; 1. Mageia isn&#39;t just a Linux distribution: we&#39;re a community of users, developers, and advocates from around the world. (18 words)<br>
+<br>
+</div>Positive form please: st like &quot;Mageia is more than&quot;<br>
+<div><br>
+&gt; 3. Mageia is Open Source - choose from thousands of app(lications)s. Office, Internet, Development, Education, and other types of software. (18 words)<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Open Source for 3 not Free Software since we have the tainted repo for example.<br>
+<br>
+</div>_nonfree_ isn&#39;t free software, and it&#39;s not open source either. Tainted is free software/open source but potentially subject to patents in some significant places for us.<br>
+<div><div>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Patricia Fraser <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+There&#39;s a piratepad in progress here:<br>
+<br>
+<a href="http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu" target="_blank">http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu</a><br></blockquote><div><br>But which one is it? I see at least three versions.... <br></div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+Please head over there and edit or comment. We&#39;d like to finalise these<br>
+texts within 24 hours, so the minute you have some time...<br>
+<br>
+Sorry if the connection is a bit iffy - the blocnotes at <a href="http://parinux.net" target="_blank">parinux.net</a><br>
+appears not to be available just now.<br>
+<br>
+Cheers!<br>
+<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Thu Mar 29 07:27:26 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+andromeda up 2 day(s), 49 hour(s), 35 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
+--<br>
+</font></span><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:30 PM, Patricia Fraser <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+There&#39;s a piratepad in progress here:<br>
+<br>
+<a href="http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu" target="_blank">http://piratepad.net/F0eSVjkgtu</a><br></blockquote><div><br>But which one is it? I see at least three versions.... <br></div><div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+Please head over there and edit or comment. We&#39;d like to finalise these<br>
+texts within 24 hours, so the minute you have some time...<br>
+<br>
+Sorry if the connection is a bit iffy - the blocnotes at <a href="http://parinux.net" target="_blank">parinux.net</a><br>
+appears not to be available just now.<br>
+<br>
+Cheers!<br>
+<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Thu Mar 29 07:27:26 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+andromeda up 2 day(s), 49 hour(s), 35 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
+--<br>
+</font></span><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Anne Nicolas <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ennael@mageia.org">ennael@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Le 02/04/2012 10:32, Max Quarterpleen a crit :<br>
+<div class="im">&gt;<br>
+&gt; On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Anne nicolas &lt;<a href="mailto:ennael@mageia.org">ennael@mageia.org</a><br>
+</div><div class="im">&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:ennael@mageia.org">ennael@mageia.org</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; 2012/4/2 Max Quarterpleen &lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">bogusman222@gmail.com</a><br>
+</div>&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt;:<br>
+<div class="im">&gt;<br>
+&gt; Thanks for the very quick answer<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Installer images: Sad to say that little progress has been made.<br>
+&gt; We have<br>
+&gt; &gt; some ideas, but no feedback and no actual images. Yet.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; If needed let&#39;s have a meeting. This is going nowhere even if you all<br>
+&gt; have good ideas. We need to get a result now<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;m going to see if we can schedule an impromptu meeting before<br>
+&gt; Wednesday to discuss this and start work done, and then another on<br>
+&gt; Wednesday.<br>
+<br>
+</div>After thinking about all this, we will stop here work on the installer<br>
+images. Time is too short and discussion is going nowhere for now.<br>
+Having one more meeting would not go anywhere. We had a planning and we<br>
+are already very far from it. I will use screenshots for it and we will<br>
+have to review together this kind of process to make it work for Mageia 3.<br></blockquote><div></div><div>*sigh*<br>You&#39;re right. I sort of wish we had gotten our act together sooner. Oh well, live and learn. We&#39;ll do better for Mga3.<br>
+<br>Also, about my last comment about the logo in the background. I think I should clarify: the logo as it is is both visible and unobtrusive. It clearly brands the image as part of Mageia and doesn&#39;t attract too much attention to itself, allowing people to view the image unencumbered.<br>
+My question was more about the use of the shadow behind the logo (which helps it stand out but not so much that it pokes you in the eye). Is that OK as far as not changing the logo is concerned?<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
+<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Backgrounds: We were discussing where to put the Mageia logo in the<br>
+&gt; &gt; background images and have nearly reached a consensus. Schultz has<br>
+&gt; already<br>
+&gt; &gt; made several images with different resolutions. As soon as we know<br>
+&gt; where and<br>
+&gt; &gt; how to put the logo we will.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Please go on. RC is planned in 1 week and all artwork should be<br>
+&gt; integrated<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; So far it looks like people like the logo with a drop shadow in the<br>
+&gt; bottom-right corner of the screen. Anne, please have a look and make<br>
+&gt; sure that this does not violate the logo rules:<br>
+&gt; <a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?uo3yah8myxpa1j5" target="_blank">http://www.mediafire.com/?uo3yah8myxpa1j5</a><br>
+&gt; If that is OK we&#39;ll start putting the logo in the different resolutions,<br>
+&gt; making sure that it fits nicely in the KDE environment (GNOME and XFCE<br>
+&gt; are less of a problem in this regard).<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Boot: Schultz said he would be working on that, I don&#39;t know<br>
+&gt; exactly how<br>
+&gt; &gt; much progress he has made.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Schultz, any input on this ?<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+</div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">--<br>
+<a href="http://mageia.org" target="_blank">http://mageia.org</a><br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:42 AM, Anne Nicolas <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ennael@mageia.org">ennael@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Le 02/04/2012 10:32, Max Quarterpleen a crit :<br>
+<div class="im">&gt;<br>
+&gt; On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Anne nicolas &lt;<a href="mailto:ennael@mageia.org">ennael@mageia.org</a><br>
+</div><div class="im">&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:ennael@mageia.org">ennael@mageia.org</a>&gt;&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; 2012/4/2 Max Quarterpleen &lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">bogusman222@gmail.com</a><br>
+</div>&gt; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;&gt;:<br>
+<div class="im">&gt;<br>
+&gt; Thanks for the very quick answer<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Installer images: Sad to say that little progress has been made.<br>
+&gt; We have<br>
+&gt; &gt; some ideas, but no feedback and no actual images. Yet.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; If needed let&#39;s have a meeting. This is going nowhere even if you all<br>
+&gt; have good ideas. We need to get a result now<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;m going to see if we can schedule an impromptu meeting before<br>
+&gt; Wednesday to discuss this and start work done, and then another on<br>
+&gt; Wednesday.<br>
+<br>
+</div>After thinking about all this, we will stop here work on the installer<br>
+images. Time is too short and discussion is going nowhere for now.<br>
+Having one more meeting would not go anywhere. We had a planning and we<br>
+are already very far from it. I will use screenshots for it and we will<br>
+have to review together this kind of process to make it work for Mageia 3.<br></blockquote><div></div><div>*sigh*<br>You&#39;re right. I sort of wish we had gotten our act together sooner. Oh well, live and learn. We&#39;ll do better for Mga3.<br>
+<br>Also, about my last comment about the logo in the background. I think I should clarify: the logo as it is is both visible and unobtrusive. It clearly brands the image as part of Mageia and doesn&#39;t attract too much attention to itself, allowing people to view the image unencumbered.<br>
+My question was more about the use of the shadow behind the logo (which helps it stand out but not so much that it pokes you in the eye). Is that OK as far as not changing the logo is concerned?<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
+<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Backgrounds: We were discussing where to put the Mageia logo in the<br>
+&gt; &gt; background images and have nearly reached a consensus. Schultz has<br>
+&gt; already<br>
+&gt; &gt; made several images with different resolutions. As soon as we know<br>
+&gt; where and<br>
+&gt; &gt; how to put the logo we will.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Please go on. RC is planned in 1 week and all artwork should be<br>
+&gt; integrated<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; So far it looks like people like the logo with a drop shadow in the<br>
+&gt; bottom-right corner of the screen. Anne, please have a look and make<br>
+&gt; sure that this does not violate the logo rules:<br>
+&gt; <a href="http://www.mediafire.com/?uo3yah8myxpa1j5" target="_blank">http://www.mediafire.com/?uo3yah8myxpa1j5</a><br>
+&gt; If that is OK we&#39;ll start putting the logo in the different resolutions,<br>
+&gt; making sure that it fits nicely in the KDE environment (GNOME and XFCE<br>
+&gt; are less of a problem in this regard).<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt; Boot: Schultz said he would be working on that, I don&#39;t know<br>
+&gt; exactly how<br>
+&gt; &gt; much progress he has made.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Schultz, any input on this ?<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+&gt; &gt;<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+</div></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">--<br>
+<a href="http://mageia.org" target="_blank">http://mageia.org</a><br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+I do have another question. Perhaps it is simply another symptom of the<br>
+ten or so posts by Josh that have served to illustrate his frustration<br>
+with an ineffectual bureaucracy in obtaining a single uid/pwd<br>
+combination to manage a resource that belongs to MarCom in the first place:<br>
+<br>
+Q: Why, when we have our own infrastructure, is the artwork team posting<br>
+development work to <a href="http://imgur.com" target="_blank">imgur.com</a>?<br>
+<br>
+I would think that having all three images posted on a single page on<br>
+our wiki or a gallery under our domain would be preferable.<br></blockquote><div><br>At the risk of derailing the thread: there have been many, many, <i>many</i> requests of the sysadmin and webadmin teams to provide artwork (and probably marcom too) with server-side storage. That has yet to happen, and probably won&#39;t happen before Mga2. After that we can renew our begging. <br>
+</div></div></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+I do have another question. Perhaps it is simply another symptom of the<br>
+ten or so posts by Josh that have served to illustrate his frustration<br>
+with an ineffectual bureaucracy in obtaining a single uid/pwd<br>
+combination to manage a resource that belongs to MarCom in the first place:<br>
+<br>
+Q: Why, when we have our own infrastructure, is the artwork team posting<br>
+development work to <a href="http://imgur.com" target="_blank">imgur.com</a>?<br>
+<br>
+I would think that having all three images posted on a single page on<br>
+our wiki or a gallery under our domain would be preferable.<br></blockquote><div><br>At the risk of derailing the thread: there have been many, many, <i>many</i> requests of the sysadmin and webadmin teams to provide artwork (and probably marcom too) with server-side storage. That has yet to happen, and probably won&#39;t happen before Mga2. After that we can renew our begging. <br>
+</div></div></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Donald Stewart <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com">watersnowrock@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+either greyscale or full white for me.<br>
+<br>
+Once the vote is gone, can someone mail me the svg or png of the chosen logo.<br></blockquote><div><br>An xcf with the proper layers.<br>I wasn&#39;t happy with the shadows in Inkscape, so I used Gimp.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Donald Stewart <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com">watersnowrock@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+either greyscale or full white for me.<br>
+<br>
+Once the vote is gone, can someone mail me the svg or png of the chosen logo.<br></blockquote><div><br>An xcf with the proper layers.<br>I wasn&#39;t happy with the shadows in Inkscape, so I used Gimp.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Hi everybody.<br>We&#39;ve pretty much all agreed (or at least, everybody who has bothered to respond agreed) that we are going to go with the logo in the bottom right corner with the more prominent shadow, the drop-shadow.<br>
+
+Now, some people thought that it still isn&#39;t very visible. I personally think it looks great, but I am only one person.<br>So, I mad two more mockups: a greyscale logo and a white logo. (I tried a black logo and it was just awful).<br>
+Grayscale: <a href="http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg</a><br>White: <a href="http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg</a><br>Natural: <a href="http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg</a><br>
+Please disregard JPEG artifacts, we will distribute the images as PNGs.<br>Please respond with your thoughts.<br>Again, the final position of the logo will depend on the resolution of the image so that it won&#39;t interfere with the KDE taskbar.<br>
+Max<br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Hi everybody.<br>We&#39;ve pretty much all agreed (or at least, everybody who has bothered to respond agreed) that we are going to go with the logo in the bottom right corner with the more prominent shadow, the drop-shadow.<br>
+
+Now, some people thought that it still isn&#39;t very visible. I personally think it looks great, but I am only one person.<br>So, I mad two more mockups: a greyscale logo and a white logo. (I tried a black logo and it was just awful).<br>
+Grayscale: <a href="http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/5WOFr.jpg</a><br>White: <a href="http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/yVsNd.jpg</a><br>Natural: <a href="http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg">http://i.imgur.com/1rdLL.jpg</a><br>
+Please disregard JPEG artifacts, we will distribute the images as PNGs.<br>Please respond with your thoughts.<br>Again, the final position of the logo will depend on the resolution of the image so that it won&#39;t interfere with the KDE taskbar.<br>
+Max<br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Looks good, but maybe change the bottom part from black to something a little lighter?<br>One of our blues?<br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Looks good, but maybe change the bottom part from black to something a little lighter?<br>One of our blues?<br></div>
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+I&#39;m sure Seb could explain better.<br></div>
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+<p>I won&#39; t make it tonight. At the time of tge meeting i will most likely be on the road...</p>
+<p>Happy easter,<br>
+Oliver</p>
+<div class="gmail_quote">On 09.04.2012 13:58, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+I had promised that we&#39;d have a first draft of the release texts ready<br>
+for inspection at this meeting, but: we&#39;re not there yet.<br>
+<br>
+For the website, Romain will be updating marcom on the structure this<br>
+week, when we can get to work on that. For the blog post - too easy, we<br>
+can put that together very quickly. The only other one which might take<br>
+a bit of work is the press release, which I&#39;m hoping we can get some<br>
+input from council members as to what people would like to see in the<br>
+release - then it will take shape very quickly.<br>
+<br>
+So, see you at the meeting, if everyone&#39;s not stunned with chocolate...<br>
+<br>
+Cheers!<br>
+<br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Mon Apr  9 21:54:53 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+andromeda up 13 hour(s), 41 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
+--<br>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div>
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+<p>I won&#39; t make it tonight. At the time of tge meeting i will most likely be on the road...</p>
+<p>Happy easter,<br>
+Oliver</p>
+<div class="gmail_quote">On 09.04.2012 13:58, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+I had promised that we&#39;d have a first draft of the release texts ready<br>
+for inspection at this meeting, but: we&#39;re not there yet.<br>
+<br>
+For the website, Romain will be updating marcom on the structure this<br>
+week, when we can get to work on that. For the blog post - too easy, we<br>
+can put that together very quickly. The only other one which might take<br>
+a bit of work is the press release, which I&#39;m hoping we can get some<br>
+input from council members as to what people would like to see in the<br>
+release - then it will take shape very quickly.<br>
+<br>
+So, see you at the meeting, if everyone&#39;s not stunned with chocolate...<br>
+<br>
+Cheers!<br>
+<br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Mon Apr  9 21:54:53 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+andromeda up 13 hour(s), 41 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
+--<br>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div>
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+<p>I&#39;ll have another look tonight, although I don&#39;t think I have too much more to add.</p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 16 May 2012 14:44, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+Please check both the Etherpad <a href="http://bn.parinux.org/p/5VmTPqQ5BQ" target="_blank">http://bn.parinux.org/p/5VmTPqQ5BQ</a> and<br>
+the Sandbox <a href="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_sandbox" target="_blank">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_sandbox</a>.<br>
+<br>
+Proposed texts are in place for the blog post and for the press<br>
+release; texts for the website will follow.<br>
+<br>
+These texts must go to i18n tomorrow - please check and edit/add<br>
+suggestions on the Etherpad, leaving the current version on the<br>
+Sandbox.<br>
+<br>
+PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THE SANDBOX - it&#39;s our check version in case we<br>
+need to revert anything changed on the Etherpad.<br>
+<br>
+I&#39;d really appreciate any time you can give to help - it needs many eyes on it<br>
+to make sure it&#39;s as good as it can be.<br>
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Wed May 16 23:40:10 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+hermes up 9 hour(s), 50 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
+--<br>
+</font><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></p>
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+<p>I&#39;ll have another look tonight, although I don&#39;t think I have too much more to add.</p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 16 May 2012 14:44, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+Please check both the Etherpad <a href="http://bn.parinux.org/p/5VmTPqQ5BQ" target="_blank">http://bn.parinux.org/p/5VmTPqQ5BQ</a> and<br>
+the Sandbox <a href="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_sandbox" target="_blank">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Marketing_sandbox</a>.<br>
+<br>
+Proposed texts are in place for the blog post and for the press<br>
+release; texts for the website will follow.<br>
+<br>
+These texts must go to i18n tomorrow - please check and edit/add<br>
+suggestions on the Etherpad, leaving the current version on the<br>
+Sandbox.<br>
+<br>
+PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THE SANDBOX - it&#39;s our check version in case we<br>
+need to revert anything changed on the Etherpad.<br>
+<br>
+I&#39;d really appreciate any time you can give to help - it needs many eyes on it<br>
+to make sure it&#39;s as good as it can be.<br>
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V<br>
+-35.67896, 142.66637<br>
+Wed May 16 23:40:10 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2011 #283226 <a href="http://linuxcounter.net" target="_blank">linuxcounter.net</a><br>
+hermes up 9 hour(s), 50 min.<br>
+kernel 2.6.38.8-desktop-10.mga<br>
+--<br>
+</font><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></p>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Max Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rda@mageia.org" target="_blank">rda@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi!<br>
+<div><br>
+On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; I think it&#39;s unlikely that we&#39;ll get it undeleted, but we can try for a<br>
+&gt; new Mageia page; I&#39;m on it.<br>
+<br>
+</div>&gt;From the discussion and deletion decision, recreating it is completely<br>
+open. Funny things is, it&#39;s been 3 votes for deletion, 2 against, so<br>
+it&#39;s not like it&#39;s a big deal either, it&#39;s been only one person needed<br>
+to make it go - and Mageia pages in other languages are not much<br>
+different either.<br>
+<br>
+But, for the new page, sources will be needed to sustain each stance,<br>
+and - I&#39;m not sure how this can be included, maybe as<br>
+sources/references actually - hints to existing coverage (relevant,<br>
+independant articles and reviews) will be needed.<br></blockquote></div><div><br>Yeah. I don&#39;t think we can quote our own site as a good source.<br>The &#39;about&#39; Mageia on Distrowatch is pretty OK.<br>Here are a couple of articles I remember seeing, there are probably more.<br>
+
+<a href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html" target="_blank">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html</a><br><a href="http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/" target="_blank">http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/</a><br>
+</div></div></div></blockquote><div></div><div>A quick Google search also turned up these gems:<br><a href="http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1">http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1</a><br>
+<a href="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_coming_in_mageia_linux_20.html">http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_coming_in_mageia_linux_20.html</a><br><br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div></div><br></div>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 11:29 PM, Max Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im">On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rda@mageia.org" target="_blank">rda@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi!<br>
+<div><br>
+On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; I think it&#39;s unlikely that we&#39;ll get it undeleted, but we can try for a<br>
+&gt; new Mageia page; I&#39;m on it.<br>
+<br>
+</div>&gt;From the discussion and deletion decision, recreating it is completely<br>
+open. Funny things is, it&#39;s been 3 votes for deletion, 2 against, so<br>
+it&#39;s not like it&#39;s a big deal either, it&#39;s been only one person needed<br>
+to make it go - and Mageia pages in other languages are not much<br>
+different either.<br>
+<br>
+But, for the new page, sources will be needed to sustain each stance,<br>
+and - I&#39;m not sure how this can be included, maybe as<br>
+sources/references actually - hints to existing coverage (relevant,<br>
+independant articles and reviews) will be needed.<br></blockquote></div><div><br>Yeah. I don&#39;t think we can quote our own site as a good source.<br>The &#39;about&#39; Mageia on Distrowatch is pretty OK.<br>Here are a couple of articles I remember seeing, there are probably more.<br>
+
+<a href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html" target="_blank">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html</a><br><a href="http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/" target="_blank">http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/</a><br>
+</div></div></div></blockquote><div></div><div>A quick Google search also turned up these gems:<br><a href="http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1">http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/spotlight-linux-mageia-1</a><br>
+<a href="http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_coming_in_mageia_linux_20.html">http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/255498/six_key_features_coming_in_mageia_linux_20.html</a><br><br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div></div><br></div>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Hi guys<br>I saw this post on the forum:<br><a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428</a><br>It looks like while we weren&#39;t looking someone decided that there aren&#39;t enough external resources devoted to Mageia to warrant a full page on Wikipedia.<br>
+Now I know that that isn&#39;t true. There have been many articles, blog posts and discussions about Mageia, some of them even on reliable and respected websites.<br>I think that the Marcom team should collect a list of all Mageia-related articles and blog posts. Many of them have been referenced on the forum. Then take this list and wave it in the faces of the Wikipedia Powers That Be and ask nicely, then demand, that they undelete the page.<br>
+Seriously. Right before we release a new version is not a good time for our Wikipedia page to be deleted.<br>Max<br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">Hi guys<br>I saw this post on the forum:<br><a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=2428</a><br>It looks like while we weren&#39;t looking someone decided that there aren&#39;t enough external resources devoted to Mageia to warrant a full page on Wikipedia.<br>
+Now I know that that isn&#39;t true. There have been many articles, blog posts and discussions about Mageia, some of them even on reliable and respected websites.<br>I think that the Marcom team should collect a list of all Mageia-related articles and blog posts. Many of them have been referenced on the forum. Then take this list and wave it in the faces of the Wikipedia Powers That Be and ask nicely, then demand, that they undelete the page.<br>
+Seriously. Right before we release a new version is not a good time for our Wikipedia page to be deleted.<br>Max<br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rda@mageia.org" target="_blank">rda@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi!<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; I think it&#39;s unlikely that we&#39;ll get it undeleted, but we can try for a<br>
+&gt; new Mageia page; I&#39;m on it.<br>
+<br>
+</div>&gt;From the discussion and deletion decision, recreating it is completely<br>
+open. Funny things is, it&#39;s been 3 votes for deletion, 2 against, so<br>
+it&#39;s not like it&#39;s a big deal either, it&#39;s been only one person needed<br>
+to make it go - and Mageia pages in other languages are not much<br>
+different either.<br>
+<br>
+But, for the new page, sources will be needed to sustain each stance,<br>
+and - I&#39;m not sure how this can be included, maybe as<br>
+sources/references actually - hints to existing coverage (relevant,<br>
+independant articles and reviews) will be needed.<br></blockquote><div><br>Yeah. I don&#39;t think we can quote our own site as a good source.<br>The &#39;about&#39; Mageia on Distrowatch is pretty OK.<br>Here are a couple of articles I remember seeing, there are probably more.<br>
+<a href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html</a><br><a href="http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/">http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/</a><br>
+<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 8:12 PM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rda@mageia.org" target="_blank">rda@mageia.org</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi!<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 1:58 PM, Patricia Fraser &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; I think it&#39;s unlikely that we&#39;ll get it undeleted, but we can try for a<br>
+&gt; new Mageia page; I&#39;m on it.<br>
+<br>
+</div>&gt;From the discussion and deletion decision, recreating it is completely<br>
+open. Funny things is, it&#39;s been 3 votes for deletion, 2 against, so<br>
+it&#39;s not like it&#39;s a big deal either, it&#39;s been only one person needed<br>
+to make it go - and Mageia pages in other languages are not much<br>
+different either.<br>
+<br>
+But, for the new page, sources will be needed to sustain each stance,<br>
+and - I&#39;m not sure how this can be included, maybe as<br>
+sources/references actually - hints to existing coverage (relevant,<br>
+independant articles and reviews) will be needed.<br></blockquote><div><br>Yeah. I don&#39;t think we can quote our own site as a good source.<br>The &#39;about&#39; Mageia on Distrowatch is pretty OK.<br>Here are a couple of articles I remember seeing, there are probably more.<br>
+<a href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2012/02/eugeni-dodonov-even-while-i-was-at.html</a><br><a href="http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/">http://desktoplinuxreviews.com/2011/08/02/mageia-1/</a><br>
+<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"><span style lang="EN-US">I created a
+phrase in the Facebok of the Mageia that symbolizes the spirit of the Mageia. It
+would be a type of a marketing of <span style></span>the distro
+like a saying. Generally, companies have saying or mottos like this: satisfaction
+guaranteed or money back. Its a phrase that its the company meaning in few
+words.The Merrian Webster dictionary tranlates the motto as the following
+meaning: <span class="ssens">a sentence, phrase, or word inscribed on something
+as appropriate to or indicative of its character or use. The prase, motto or
+saying to the Mageia is the following:</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="ssens"><b><i><span style lang="EN-US">Mageia is the present and the future.</span></i></b></span><span class="ssens"><span style lang="EN-US"> The users at the
+facebook liked this motto. It means Mageia is the present because of its
+quality and stability for the reason Mageia is at the top of distrowatch (at 7<sup>th</sup>.
+Position now). The other distos at start of mageia didnt believe it.They
+desdained Mageia. The future be cause Mageia is a community, an organization
+and came to stay with us and offer the best in the future.Thus, if you choose
+it, It could be included for the Mageia 3 as a signal.Its just a suggestion. I
+hope you get me.</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="ssens"><span style lang="EN-US">Cheers.</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="ssens"><span style lang="EN-US">Otto S from Mageia Brazil.</span></span><span style lang="EN-US"></span></p>
+
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+
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"><span style lang="EN-US">I created a
+phrase in the Facebok of the Mageia that symbolizes the spirit of the Mageia. It
+would be a type of a marketing of <span style></span>the distro
+like a saying. Generally, companies have saying or mottos like this: satisfaction
+guaranteed or money back. Its a phrase that its the company meaning in few
+words.The Merrian Webster dictionary tranlates the motto as the following
+meaning: <span class="ssens">a sentence, phrase, or word inscribed on something
+as appropriate to or indicative of its character or use. The prase, motto or
+saying to the Mageia is the following:</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="ssens"><b><i><span style lang="EN-US">Mageia is the present and the future.</span></i></b></span><span class="ssens"><span style lang="EN-US"> The users at the
+facebook liked this motto. It means Mageia is the present because of its
+quality and stability for the reason Mageia is at the top of distrowatch (at 7<sup>th</sup>.
+Position now). The other distos at start of mageia didnt believe it.They
+desdained Mageia. The future be cause Mageia is a community, an organization
+and came to stay with us and offer the best in the future.Thus, if you choose
+it, It could be included for the Mageia 3 as a signal.Its just a suggestion. I
+hope you get me.</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="ssens"><span style lang="EN-US">Cheers.</span></span></p>
+
+<p class="MsoNormal"><span class="ssens"><span style lang="EN-US">Otto S from Mageia Brazil.</span></span><span style lang="EN-US"></span></p>
+
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+Hi Patricia Fraser!I have already placed on the Mageia Forum at <a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476</a><br>Could you post there to start users posting about this inquiry ?<br>
+Besides, I put at bugzilla at <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032</a> (bug # 6032) but Manuel Hiebel pointed me out to ask at Mageia Marketing But I haven&#39;t put at the mageia irch channel yet. Which channel should I ask about it? #mageia (main project); #mageia-board ; #mageia-council ? Or another specific Mageia channel? I appreciated your prompt reply. I&#39;m looking forward to hear your hints.<br>
+Cheers.<br>Otto S.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/5/24 Patricia Fraser <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi Otto,<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt; I created a phrase in the Facebok of the Mageia that symbolizes the<br>
+&gt; spirit of the Mageia. It would be a type of a marketing of the<br>
+&gt; distro like a saying. Generally, companies have saying or mottos like<br>
+&gt; this: satisfaction guaranteed or money back. Its a phrase that<br>
+&gt; its the company meaning in few words.The Merrian Webster dictionary<br>
+&gt; tranlates the motto as the following meaning: a sentence, phrase, or<br>
+&gt; word inscribed on something as appropriate to or indicative of its<br>
+&gt; character or use. The prase, motto or saying to the Mageia is the<br>
+&gt; following:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+</div>&gt; *Mageia is the present and the future.* The users at the facebook<br>
+<div class="im">&gt; liked this motto. It means Mageia is the present because of its<br>
+&gt; quality and stability for the reason Mageia is at the top of<br>
+&gt; distrowatch (at 7th. Position now). The other distos at start of<br>
+&gt; mageia didnt believe it.They desdained Mageia. The future be cause<br>
+&gt; Mageia is a community, an organization and came to stay with us and<br>
+&gt; offer the best in the future.Thus, if you choose it, It could be<br>
+&gt; included for the Mageia 3 as a signal.Its just a suggestion. I hope<br>
+&gt; you get me.<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+</div>Thanks for this!<br>
+<br>
+Have you asked the folks on the mageia-discuss list how they like it?<br>
+That&#39;s where a lot of the community hangs out; you could also ask on<br>
+IRC and the forums.<br>
+<br>
+If you get a lot of positive feedback within the community, then we can<br>
+put it to the Council for approval as a slogan.<br>
+<br>
+We&#39;ll all look forward to hearing how you get on!<br>
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V -35.67910, 142.66607<br>
+Fri May 25 07:38:18 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 <a href="http://counter.li.org" target="_blank">counter.li.org</a><br>
+hermes up 0 hour(s), 40 min.<br>
+Mageia release 2 (Official) for x86_64<br>
+kernel 3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2<br>
+</font></span><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br>
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+Hi Patricia Fraser!I have already placed on the Mageia Forum at <a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476</a><br>Could you post there to start users posting about this inquiry ?<br>
+Besides, I put at bugzilla at <a href="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032</a> (bug # 6032) but Manuel Hiebel pointed me out to ask at Mageia Marketing But I haven&#39;t put at the mageia irch channel yet. Which channel should I ask about it? #mageia (main project); #mageia-board ; #mageia-council ? Or another specific Mageia channel? I appreciated your prompt reply. I&#39;m looking forward to hear your hints.<br>
+Cheers.<br>Otto S.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/5/24 Patricia Fraser <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi Otto,<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt; I created a phrase in the Facebok of the Mageia that symbolizes the<br>
+&gt; spirit of the Mageia. It would be a type of a marketing of the<br>
+&gt; distro like a saying. Generally, companies have saying or mottos like<br>
+&gt; this: satisfaction guaranteed or money back. Its a phrase that<br>
+&gt; its the company meaning in few words.The Merrian Webster dictionary<br>
+&gt; tranlates the motto as the following meaning: a sentence, phrase, or<br>
+&gt; word inscribed on something as appropriate to or indicative of its<br>
+&gt; character or use. The prase, motto or saying to the Mageia is the<br>
+&gt; following:<br>
+&gt;<br>
+</div>&gt; *Mageia is the present and the future.* The users at the facebook<br>
+<div class="im">&gt; liked this motto. It means Mageia is the present because of its<br>
+&gt; quality and stability for the reason Mageia is at the top of<br>
+&gt; distrowatch (at 7th. Position now). The other distos at start of<br>
+&gt; mageia didnt believe it.They desdained Mageia. The future be cause<br>
+&gt; Mageia is a community, an organization and came to stay with us and<br>
+&gt; offer the best in the future.Thus, if you choose it, It could be<br>
+&gt; included for the Mageia 3 as a signal.Its just a suggestion. I hope<br>
+&gt; you get me.<br>
+<br>
+<br>
+</div>Thanks for this!<br>
+<br>
+Have you asked the folks on the mageia-discuss list how they like it?<br>
+That&#39;s where a lot of the community hangs out; you could also ask on<br>
+IRC and the forums.<br>
+<br>
+If you get a lot of positive feedback within the community, then we can<br>
+put it to the Council for approval as a slogan.<br>
+<br>
+We&#39;ll all look forward to hearing how you get on!<br>
+<br>
+Cheers,<br>
+<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+--<br>
+Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V -35.67910, 142.66607<br>
+Fri May 25 07:38:18 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 <a href="http://counter.li.org" target="_blank">counter.li.org</a><br>
+hermes up 0 hour(s), 40 min.<br>
+Mageia release 2 (Official) for x86_64<br>
+kernel 3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2<br>
+</font></span><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br>
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+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
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+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
+ <meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html;
+ charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm">Hi Rupert<br>
+ <br>
+ Welcome to the team,
+ and as I told you earlier on IRC when we were chatting, that I
+ would
+ reply to your email.&nbsp; Here it is although a bit later than it
+ was going to be, but that doesn't matter.<br>
+ <br>
+ Patricia Fraser /
+ Trish our team leader, will probably welcome you more properly
+ :).<br>
+ <br>
+ As for contributing feel free to do so when you have the
+ time :).<br>
+ <br>
+ I know you have mainly joined recently to keep an eye
+ on the mailing list, but really now you are a member
+ of the Mageia marketing and communications team, as of earlier on
+ today :).<br>
+ <br>
+ You also talked to Max earlier on IRC so you already
+ know something about the meetings and when they are.&nbsp; However we
+ have a logs site for Mageia meetings: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meetbot.mageia.org">http://meetbot.mageia.org</a><br>
+ <br>
+ From
+ Sebastian</p>
+ <title></title>
+ <meta name="GENERATOR" content="LibreOffice 3.4 (Linux)">
+ <style type="text/css">
+ <!--
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+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
+ <meta http-equiv="CONTENT-TYPE" content="text/html;
+ charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ <p style="margin-bottom: 0cm">Hi Rupert<br>
+ <br>
+ Welcome to the team,
+ and as I told you earlier on IRC when we were chatting, that I
+ would
+ reply to your email.&nbsp; Here it is although a bit later than it
+ was going to be, but that doesn't matter.<br>
+ <br>
+ Patricia Fraser /
+ Trish our team leader, will probably welcome you more properly
+ :).<br>
+ <br>
+ As for contributing feel free to do so when you have the
+ time :).<br>
+ <br>
+ I know you have mainly joined recently to keep an eye
+ on the mailing list, but really now you are a member
+ of the Mageia marketing and communications team, as of earlier on
+ today :).<br>
+ <br>
+ You also talked to Max earlier on IRC so you already
+ know something about the meetings and when they are.&nbsp; However we
+ have a logs site for Mageia meetings: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://meetbot.mageia.org">http://meetbot.mageia.org</a><br>
+ <br>
+ From
+ Sebastian</p>
+ <title></title>
+ <meta name="GENERATOR" content="LibreOffice 3.4 (Linux)">
+ <style type="text/css">
+ <!--
+ @page { margin: 2cm }
+ P { margin-bottom: 0.21cm }
+ -->
+ </style>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Otto, </p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Macxi </p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Em qui 24 mai 2012, às 20:24:49, Otto escreveu:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Hi Patricia Fraser!I have already placed on the Mageia Forum at</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Could you post there to start users posting about this inquiry ?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Besides, I put at bugzilla at</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032(bug # 6032) but Manuel</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Hiebel pointed me out to ask at Mageia Marketing</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; But I haven't put at the mageia irch channel yet. Which channel should I</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; ask about it? #mageia (main project); #mageia-board ; #mageia-council ? Or</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; another specific Mageia channel? I appreciated your prompt reply. I'm</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; looking forward to hear your hints.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Cheers.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Otto Sá.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; 2012/5/24 Patricia Fraser &lt;trish@thefrasers.org&gt;</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Hi Otto,</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; I created a phrase in the Facebok of the Mageia that symbolizes the</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; spirit of the Mageia. It would be a type of a “marketing” of the</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; distro like a saying. Generally, companies have saying or mottos like</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; this: “satisfaction guaranteed or money back”. It’s a phrase that</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; it’s the company meaning in few words.The Merrian Webster’ dictionary</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; tranlates the motto as the following meaning: a sentence, phrase, or</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; word inscribed on something as appropriate to or indicative of its</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; character or use. The prase, motto or saying to the Mageia is the</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; following:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; *“Mageia is the present and the future.”* The users at the facebook</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; liked this motto. It means Mageia is the present because of its</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; quality and stability for the reason Mageia is at the top of</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; distrowatch (at 7th. Position now). The other distos at start of</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; mageia didn’t believe it.They desdained Mageia. The future be cause</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; Mageia is a community, an organization and came to stay with us and</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; offer the best in the future.Thus, if you choose it, It could be</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; included for the Mageia 3 as a signal.It’s just a suggestion. I hope</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; you get me.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Thanks for this!</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Have you asked the folks on the mageia-discuss list how they like it?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; That's where a lot of the community hangs out; you could also ask on</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; IRC and the forums.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; If you get a lot of positive feedback within the community, then we can</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; put it to the Council for approval as a slogan.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; We'll all look forward to hearing how you get on!</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Cheers,</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; --</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V -35.67910, 142.66607</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Fri May 25 07:38:18 EST 2012</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 counter.li.org</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; hermes up 0 hour(s), 40 min.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Mageia release 2 (Official) for x86_64</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; kernel 3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</p>
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+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Otto, </p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><a name="result_box"></a>Very good your initiative to discuss the creation of a slogan for the Mageia. I think it is necessary to discuss it. Congratulations for your idea.</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Macxi </p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">Em qui 24 mai 2012, às 20:24:49, Otto escreveu:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Hi Patricia Fraser!I have already placed on the Mageia Forum at</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=5&amp;t=2476</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Could you post there to start users posting about this inquiry ?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Besides, I put at bugzilla at</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6032(bug # 6032) but Manuel</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Hiebel pointed me out to ask at Mageia Marketing</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; But I haven't put at the mageia irch channel yet. Which channel should I</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; ask about it? #mageia (main project); #mageia-board ; #mageia-council ? Or</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; another specific Mageia channel? I appreciated your prompt reply. I'm</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; looking forward to hear your hints.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Cheers.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; Otto Sá.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; 2012/5/24 Patricia Fraser &lt;trish@thefrasers.org&gt;</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Hi Otto,</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; I created a phrase in the Facebok of the Mageia that symbolizes the</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; spirit of the Mageia. It would be a type of a “marketing” of the</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; distro like a saying. Generally, companies have saying or mottos like</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; this: “satisfaction guaranteed or money back”. It’s a phrase that</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; it’s the company meaning in few words.The Merrian Webster’ dictionary</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; tranlates the motto as the following meaning: a sentence, phrase, or</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; word inscribed on something as appropriate to or indicative of its</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; character or use. The prase, motto or saying to the Mageia is the</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; following:</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; *“Mageia is the present and the future.”* The users at the facebook</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; liked this motto. It means Mageia is the present because of its</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; quality and stability for the reason Mageia is at the top of</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; distrowatch (at 7th. Position now). The other distos at start of</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; mageia didn’t believe it.They desdained Mageia. The future be cause</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; Mageia is a community, an organization and came to stay with us and</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; offer the best in the future.Thus, if you choose it, It could be</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; included for the Mageia 3 as a signal.It’s just a suggestion. I hope</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; &gt; you get me.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Thanks for this!</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Have you asked the folks on the mageia-discuss list how they like it?</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; That's where a lot of the community hangs out; you could also ask on</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; IRC and the forums.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; If you get a lot of positive feedback within the community, then we can</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; put it to the Council for approval as a slogan.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; We'll all look forward to hearing how you get on!</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Cheers,</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; --</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V -35.67910, 142.66607</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Fri May 25 07:38:18 EST 2012</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 counter.li.org</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; hermes up 0 hour(s), 40 min.</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Mageia release 2 (Official) for x86_64</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; kernel 3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; </p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; _______________________________________________</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Mageia-marketing mailing list</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</p>
+<p style=" margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;">&gt; &gt; https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</p>
+<p style="-qt-paragraph-type:empty; margin-top:0px; margin-bottom:0px; margin-left:0px; margin-right:0px; -qt-block-indent:0; text-indent:0px; -qt-user-state:0;"><br /></p></body></html> \ No newline at end of file
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+<p>Hey,</p>
+<p>I was going to add stuff, but being on my phone is hard. <br>
+I would say the giving more structure to the process and location of documents will help, but having web space will help.</p>
+<p>Also, adding hard deadlines/gaunt charts to assignments<br>
+to visualize where we need to be might stop the issues of missed deadlines. </p>
+<p>Well I hope that the meeting goes Well</p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 4 Jun 2012 13:23, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+Remember this? Well, it needs to be completed before the council<br>
+meeting tonight.<br>
+<p><font color="#500050"><br>&gt; Hi folks,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; As we did after Mageia 1, all teams are doing a post-mortem review of<br>&gt; their acti...</font></p>Being fairly certain that nothing would happen (as is the usual way<br>
+
+
+
+
+here in marcom), I&#39;ve sent the following to the council list. I&#39;m<br>
+pretty disappointed that it was necessary...<br>
+<br>
+&gt; Marcom post-mortem: the vanishing team. I&#39;m putting this here, because<br>
+&gt; I haven&#39;t had any responses at all from anyone on the team, either on<br>
+&gt; the wiki or on the mailing list. For all intents and purposes, marcom<br>
+&gt; is me, and nobody else.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Post-mortem: marcom is unsustainable, the way it is, and I&#39;m not<br>
+&gt; really able to promise that I can do it all myself - I&#39;ve got a fair<br>
+&gt; bit on my plate at the moment, and I can&#39;t really do it justice.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;d be very grateful for any suggestions, input, warm bodies...<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; (Also, I&#39;d like to dump marcom and move to get an accessibility team<br>
+&gt; going, but that&#39;s another story, and I won&#39;t do it without at least<br>
+&gt; trying to get something happening in marcom.)<br>
+<p><font color="#500050"><br><br>-- <br>Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V -35.67910, 142.66607</font></p>Mon Jun 4 21:13:33 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 <a href="http://counter.li.org" target="_blank">counter.li.org</a><br>
+hermes up 13 hour(s), 21 min.<br>
+<p><font color="#500050">Mageia release 2 (Official) for x86_64<br>kernel 3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2</font></p><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></p>
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+<p>Hey,</p>
+<p>I was going to add stuff, but being on my phone is hard. <br>
+I would say the giving more structure to the process and location of documents will help, but having web space will help.</p>
+<p>Also, adding hard deadlines/gaunt charts to assignments<br>
+to visualize where we need to be might stop the issues of missed deadlines. </p>
+<p>Well I hope that the meeting goes Well</p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 4 Jun 2012 13:23, &quot;Patricia Fraser&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:trish@thefrasers.org" target="_blank">trish@thefrasers.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br>Hi all,<br>
+<br>
+Remember this? Well, it needs to be completed before the council<br>
+meeting tonight.<br>
+<p><font color="#500050"><br>&gt; Hi folks,<br>&gt; <br>&gt; As we did after Mageia 1, all teams are doing a post-mortem review of<br>&gt; their acti...</font></p>Being fairly certain that nothing would happen (as is the usual way<br>
+
+
+
+
+here in marcom), I&#39;ve sent the following to the council list. I&#39;m<br>
+pretty disappointed that it was necessary...<br>
+<br>
+&gt; Marcom post-mortem: the vanishing team. I&#39;m putting this here, because<br>
+&gt; I haven&#39;t had any responses at all from anyone on the team, either on<br>
+&gt; the wiki or on the mailing list. For all intents and purposes, marcom<br>
+&gt; is me, and nobody else.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Post-mortem: marcom is unsustainable, the way it is, and I&#39;m not<br>
+&gt; really able to promise that I can do it all myself - I&#39;ve got a fair<br>
+&gt; bit on my plate at the moment, and I can&#39;t really do it justice.<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; I&#39;d be very grateful for any suggestions, input, warm bodies...<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; (Also, I&#39;d like to dump marcom and move to get an accessibility team<br>
+&gt; going, but that&#39;s another story, and I won&#39;t do it without at least<br>
+&gt; trying to get something happening in marcom.)<br>
+<p><font color="#500050"><br><br>-- <br>Trish Fraser, VVMZ4 91L2V -35.67910, 142.66607</font></p>Mon Jun 4 21:13:33 EST 2012<br>
+GNU/Linux 1997-2012 #283226 <a href="http://counter.li.org" target="_blank">counter.li.org</a><br>
+hermes up 13 hour(s), 21 min.<br>
+<p><font color="#500050">Mageia release 2 (Official) for x86_64<br>kernel 3.3.6-desktop-2.mga2</font></p><br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></p>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#009900" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ Hey Folks,<br>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp; I'm a System Admin from MI, USA.&nbsp; For work I have always had to
+ use RHEL or a clone like CentOS/Scientific almost exclusively.&nbsp; I
+ have started running Mageia w/KDE on my laptop starting at beta-2.&nbsp;
+ Was running it along side Bodhi w/E17 and Win7, now my laptop runs
+ Mageia only.&nbsp; <br>
+ &nbsp; I never got into Mandriva/Mandrake too much before, mostly because
+ I started with SUSE back in '03 and then spent most of my time
+ learning RHEL &amp; clones as they are pretty dominant here in the
+ U.S. or at least those that I have worked at.<br>
+ &nbsp; At any rate I am very impressed with Mageia, and figure with the
+ time I'm spending on it I may as well pitch in a little as well.&nbsp; I
+ am pretty capable, but like I said more used to the RH way of things
+ is all.&nbsp; I am more an operations/server admin, and am not too into
+ development, with the exception of front-end web-dev.<br>
+ &nbsp; I am sending this off to a few lists and look forward to working
+ with you all.<br>
+ <br>
+ Regards,<br>
+ <br>
+ Jonathan Ingold (Digigold)<br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#009900" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ Hey Folks,<br>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp; I'm a System Admin from MI, USA.&nbsp; For work I have always had to
+ use RHEL or a clone like CentOS/Scientific almost exclusively.&nbsp; I
+ have started running Mageia w/KDE on my laptop starting at beta-2.&nbsp;
+ Was running it along side Bodhi w/E17 and Win7, now my laptop runs
+ Mageia only.&nbsp; <br>
+ &nbsp; I never got into Mandriva/Mandrake too much before, mostly because
+ I started with SUSE back in '03 and then spent most of my time
+ learning RHEL &amp; clones as they are pretty dominant here in the
+ U.S. or at least those that I have worked at.<br>
+ &nbsp; At any rate I am very impressed with Mageia, and figure with the
+ time I'm spending on it I may as well pitch in a little as well.&nbsp; I
+ am pretty capable, but like I said more used to the RH way of things
+ is all.&nbsp; I am more an operations/server admin, and am not too into
+ development, with the exception of front-end web-dev.<br>
+ &nbsp; I am sending this off to a few lists and look forward to working
+ with you all.<br>
+ <br>
+ Regards,<br>
+ <br>
+ Jonathan Ingold (Digigold)<br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
+ charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ Hey Folks,<br>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp; I'm a System Admin from MI, USA.&nbsp; For work I have always had to
+ use RHEL or a clone like CentOS/Scientific almost exclusively.&nbsp; I
+ have started running Mageia w/KDE on my laptop starting at beta-2.&nbsp;
+ Was running it along side Bodhi w/E17 and Win7, now my laptop runs
+ Mageia only.&nbsp; <br>
+ &nbsp; I never got into Mandriva/Mandrake too much before, mostly because
+ I started with SUSE back in '03 and then spent most of my time
+ learning RHEL &amp; clones as they are pretty dominant here in the
+ U.S. or at least those that I have worked at.<br>
+ &nbsp; At any rate I am very impressed with Mageia, and figure with the
+ time I'm spending on it I may as well pitch in a little as well.&nbsp; I
+ am pretty capable, but like I said more used to the RH way of things
+ is all.&nbsp; I am more an operations/server admin, and am not too into
+ development, with the exception of front-end web-dev.<br>
+ &nbsp; I am sending this off to a few lists and look forward to working
+ with you all.<br>
+ <br>
+ Regards,<br>
+ <br>
+ Jonathan Ingold (Digigold)<br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120606/4b0261a9/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120606/4b0261a9/attachment.html
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@@ -0,0 +1,37 @@
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
+ charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ Hey Folks,<br>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp; I'm a System Admin from MI, USA.&nbsp; For work I have always had to
+ use RHEL or a clone like CentOS/Scientific almost exclusively.&nbsp; I
+ have started running Mageia w/KDE on my laptop starting at beta-2.&nbsp;
+ Was running it along side Bodhi w/E17 and Win7, now my laptop runs
+ Mageia only.&nbsp; <br>
+ &nbsp; I never got into Mandriva/Mandrake too much before, mostly because
+ I started with SUSE back in '03 and then spent most of my time
+ learning RHEL &amp; clones as they are pretty dominant here in the
+ U.S. or at least those that I have worked at.<br>
+ &nbsp; At any rate I am very impressed with Mageia, and figure with the
+ time I'm spending on it I may as well pitch in a little as well.&nbsp; I
+ am pretty capable, but like I said more used to the RH way of things
+ is all.&nbsp; I am more an operations/server admin, and am not too into
+ development, with the exception of front-end web-dev.<br>
+ &nbsp; I am sending this off to a few lists and look forward to working
+ with you all.<br>
+ <br>
+ Regards,<br>
+ <br>
+ Jonathan Ingold (Digigold)<br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120608/1e1f695e/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120608/1e1f695e/attachment-0001.html
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@@ -0,0 +1,46 @@
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ On 06/07/2012 03:27 PM, Sebastian wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:4FD10096.5070103@gmx.com" type="cite">As of
+ yesterday (Wednesday) Marcom has a new member, he was in the IRC
+ channel for Marcom, and I chatted to him there, and got him to
+ send a introduction email to this mailing list, which is awaiting
+ approval or something.&nbsp; I also suggested he joined the
+ Systemadmin, and QA team, and maybe webteam as well, after talking
+ to him, so I guess he's in all of those teams now really as well.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ An introduction email got through to the Systemadmins mailing
+ list, QA, and webteam.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I also explained to him about how Marcom, artwork, and webteam,&nbsp;
+ will be merging into one team soon as well.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ Sebastian
+ <br>
+ _______________________________________________
+ <br>
+ Mageia-marketing mailing list
+ <br>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+ <br>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <font face="Utopia">Well I'm getting the emails anyway...</font><br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120608/1e1f695e/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120608/1e1f695e/attachment.html
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@@ -0,0 +1,46 @@
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ On 06/07/2012 03:27 PM, Sebastian wrote:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:4FD10096.5070103@gmx.com" type="cite">As of
+ yesterday (Wednesday) Marcom has a new member, he was in the IRC
+ channel for Marcom, and I chatted to him there, and got him to
+ send a introduction email to this mailing list, which is awaiting
+ approval or something.&nbsp; I also suggested he joined the
+ Systemadmin, and QA team, and maybe webteam as well, after talking
+ to him, so I guess he's in all of those teams now really as well.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ An introduction email got through to the Systemadmins mailing
+ list, QA, and webteam.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ I also explained to him about how Marcom, artwork, and webteam,&nbsp;
+ will be merging into one team soon as well.
+ <br>
+ <br>
+ Sebastian
+ <br>
+ _______________________________________________
+ <br>
+ Mageia-marketing mailing list
+ <br>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+ <br>
+ <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <font face="Utopia">Well I'm getting the emails anyway...</font><br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120609/2d7254dc/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120609/2d7254dc/attachment-0001.html
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--- /dev/null
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@@ -0,0 +1,41 @@
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
+ charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ <font face="Utopia"><u><b>Note:</b></u><i>&nbsp; I have had some trouble
+ with this particular list, but I think I got it straightened
+ out; however, I apologize if this is a duplicate email.<br>
+ <br>
+ </i></font>Hey Folks,<br>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp; I'm a System Admin from MI, USA.&nbsp; For work I have always had to
+ use RHEL or a clone like CentOS/Scientific almost exclusively.&nbsp; I
+ have started running Mageia w/KDE on my laptop starting at beta-2.&nbsp;
+ Was running it along side Bodhi w/E17 and Win7, now my laptop runs
+ Mageia only.&nbsp; <br>
+ &nbsp; I never got into Mandriva/Mandrake too much before, mostly because
+ I started with SUSE back in '03 and then spent most of my time
+ learning RHEL &amp; clones as they are pretty dominant here in the
+ U.S., or at least at the shops that I have worked in.<br>
+ &nbsp; At any rate I am very impressed with Mageia, and figure with the
+ time I'm spending on it I may as well pitch in a little as well.&nbsp; I
+ am pretty capable, but like I said more used to the RH way of things
+ is all.&nbsp; I am more an operations/server admin, and am not too into
+ development, with the exception of front-end web-dev.<br>
+ &nbsp; I am sending this off to a few lists and look forward to working
+ with you all.<br>
+ <br>
+ Regards,<br>
+ <br>
+ Jonathan Ingold (Digigold)<br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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--- /dev/null
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@@ -0,0 +1,41 @@
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html;
+ charset=ISO-8859-1">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ <font face="Utopia"><u><b>Note:</b></u><i>&nbsp; I have had some trouble
+ with this particular list, but I think I got it straightened
+ out; however, I apologize if this is a duplicate email.<br>
+ <br>
+ </i></font>Hey Folks,<br>
+ <br>
+ &nbsp; I'm a System Admin from MI, USA.&nbsp; For work I have always had to
+ use RHEL or a clone like CentOS/Scientific almost exclusively.&nbsp; I
+ have started running Mageia w/KDE on my laptop starting at beta-2.&nbsp;
+ Was running it along side Bodhi w/E17 and Win7, now my laptop runs
+ Mageia only.&nbsp; <br>
+ &nbsp; I never got into Mandriva/Mandrake too much before, mostly because
+ I started with SUSE back in '03 and then spent most of my time
+ learning RHEL &amp; clones as they are pretty dominant here in the
+ U.S., or at least at the shops that I have worked in.<br>
+ &nbsp; At any rate I am very impressed with Mageia, and figure with the
+ time I'm spending on it I may as well pitch in a little as well.&nbsp; I
+ am pretty capable, but like I said more used to the RH way of things
+ is all.&nbsp; I am more an operations/server admin, and am not too into
+ development, with the exception of front-end web-dev.<br>
+ &nbsp; I am sending this off to a few lists and look forward to working
+ with you all.<br>
+ <br>
+ Regards,<br>
+ <br>
+ Jonathan Ingold (Digigold)<br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi everyone, (xposted on -marketing, -artwork and -webteam; if<br>
+possible, please follow-up in -marketing)<br>
+<br>
+So here&#39;s the plan (actually, that&#39;s a suggestion of a plan):<br>
+- we make a new team; which role is to think, design, produce and<br>
+maintain the identity of the project and its declinations in messages,<br>
+graphics, Web and print [1];<br>
+- this team is named &quot;atelier&quot;;<br></blockquote><div><br>My French is a little rusty. Does that mean &quot;workshop&quot;? Who came up with that name? How is it pronounced? And why? (I personally was starting to like webartcom)<br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- a new mailing-list is open for that;<br></blockquote><div><br>Are all participants of -marcom, -web and -artwork automatically subscribed to this new list? What is the address? (So I can create a new mail filter)<br></div>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- it practically merges responsibilities from artwork, web and marcom teams;<br></blockquote><div><br>Good!<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+- it integrates roles as diverse as: design, marketing, graphic<br>
+research and production, copy writing, web design, integration and<br>
+development, curation, etc.<br>
+- existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but<br>
+locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;<br></blockquote><div><br>When will this happen?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+- will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making<br>
+and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,<br>
+graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still<br>
+welcome, but not enough to move forward;<br></blockquote><div><br>So, sort of a reward for participating? Interesting.... but might not work.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+- external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer<br>
+getting in touch/inviting a professional person to propose and work on<br>
+a specific, focused topic, from overall project identity design, down<br>
+to a specific production. It only needs to be stated within the team<br>
+first so that everyone is in sync;<br></blockquote><div><br>I think iamoverrated has already started doing this with a graphic designer. I&#39;m not sure on the details, we&#39;ve been playing IRC tag for a week or so...<br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from<br>
+external people are made easier is a true option too (that means<br>
+things easier to grasp, understand and update);<br></blockquote><div><br>How?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through<br>
+the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not<br>
+a must, just good to have;<br></blockquote><div><br>Where will we be hanging out? New channel? One of the existing channels?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+- no more than 10 hours a week on Mageia.<br></blockquote><div><br>Hah! I wish I had that much time to give to Mageia :P<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<br>
+Questions:<br>
+- who&#39;s going to lead this?<br></blockquote><div><br>I nominate Romain.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- what&#39;s the plan up to Mageia 3? several things at least in several<br>
+regards (identity, print, web, distribution), but that will highly<br>
+depend on who lead(s) the team.<br></blockquote><div><br>We will probably have to come up with three separate lines of advance. One focusing on web, one focusing on distro-look and one focusing on PR. Sort of to set our goals for each one. They will, of course, overlap, but the end-products of each distinct line will be different.<br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<br>
+[1] ideally, everything that&#39;s the public face of Mageia.Org, the<br>
+Mageia distribution and the Mageia project should go through this<br>
+team; that does not mean that things will not be flexible, but if<br>
+there&#39;s one place to discuss, document and synchronize all this work,<br>
+it&#39;s here. That, in turn, requires some responsiveness and initiative<br>
+from the team members.<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+Hi everyone, (xposted on -marketing, -artwork and -webteam; if<br>
+possible, please follow-up in -marketing)<br>
+<br>
+So here&#39;s the plan (actually, that&#39;s a suggestion of a plan):<br>
+- we make a new team; which role is to think, design, produce and<br>
+maintain the identity of the project and its declinations in messages,<br>
+graphics, Web and print [1];<br>
+- this team is named &quot;atelier&quot;;<br></blockquote><div><br>My French is a little rusty. Does that mean &quot;workshop&quot;? Who came up with that name? How is it pronounced? And why? (I personally was starting to like webartcom)<br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- a new mailing-list is open for that;<br></blockquote><div><br>Are all participants of -marcom, -web and -artwork automatically subscribed to this new list? What is the address? (So I can create a new mail filter)<br></div>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- it practically merges responsibilities from artwork, web and marcom teams;<br></blockquote><div><br>Good!<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+- it integrates roles as diverse as: design, marketing, graphic<br>
+research and production, copy writing, web design, integration and<br>
+development, curation, etc.<br>
+- existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but<br>
+locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;<br></blockquote><div><br>When will this happen?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+- will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making<br>
+and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,<br>
+graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still<br>
+welcome, but not enough to move forward;<br></blockquote><div><br>So, sort of a reward for participating? Interesting.... but might not work.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+- external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer<br>
+getting in touch/inviting a professional person to propose and work on<br>
+a specific, focused topic, from overall project identity design, down<br>
+to a specific production. It only needs to be stated within the team<br>
+first so that everyone is in sync;<br></blockquote><div><br>I think iamoverrated has already started doing this with a graphic designer. I&#39;m not sure on the details, we&#39;ve been playing IRC tag for a week or so...<br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from<br>
+external people are made easier is a true option too (that means<br>
+things easier to grasp, understand and update);<br></blockquote><div><br>How?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through<br>
+the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not<br>
+a must, just good to have;<br></blockquote><div><br>Where will we be hanging out? New channel? One of the existing channels?<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+- no more than 10 hours a week on Mageia.<br></blockquote><div><br>Hah! I wish I had that much time to give to Mageia :P<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<br>
+Questions:<br>
+- who&#39;s going to lead this?<br></blockquote><div><br>I nominate Romain.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+- what&#39;s the plan up to Mageia 3? several things at least in several<br>
+regards (identity, print, web, distribution), but that will highly<br>
+depend on who lead(s) the team.<br></blockquote><div><br>We will probably have to come up with three separate lines of advance. One focusing on web, one focusing on distro-look and one focusing on PR. Sort of to set our goals for each one. They will, of course, overlap, but the end-products of each distinct line will be different.<br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<br>
+[1] ideally, everything that&#39;s the public face of Mageia.Org, the<br>
+Mageia distribution and the Mageia project should go through this<br>
+team; that does not mean that things will not be flexible, but if<br>
+there&#39;s one place to discuss, document and synchronize all this work,<br>
+it&#39;s here. That, in turn, requires some responsiveness and initiative<br>
+from the team members.<br>
+_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="im">On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Romain d&#39;Alverny &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+</div><div class="im">&gt;&gt;  - this team is named &quot;atelier&quot;;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; My French is a little rusty. Does that mean &quot;workshop&quot;?<br>
+<br>
+</div>Yes.<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt; Who came up with that name?<br>
+<br>
+</div>Doesn&#39;t matter. It&#39;s just picked to have something.<br></blockquote><div><br>OK, sounds good.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<br>
+&gt; How is it pronounced?<br>
+<br>
+/a.tə.lje/ see <a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier" target="_blank">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier</a><br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt; And why? (I personally was starting to like webartcom)<br>
+<br>
+</div>webartcom is reductive - and ugly.<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - a new mailing-list is open for that;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Are all participants of -marcom, -web and -artwork automatically subscribed<br>
+&gt; to this new list? What is the address? (So I can create a new mail filter)<br>
+<br>
+</div>This list is not registered yet. All participants will have to<br>
+subscribe, an update message stating each former list being closed and<br>
+directions to subscribe to the new list will be sent.<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but<br>
+&gt;&gt; locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; When will this happen?<br>
+<br>
+</div>As soon as 3 or 4 people can agree on a plan and there&#39;s no large<br>
+objection from others, and Council validates it. A good time would be<br>
+by the end of this week.<br></blockquote><div><br>Count me in. I don&#39;t know how much I&#39;ll be able to help, I&#39;ve got a lot going in in meatspace now, but I really do want to see things moving along on this.<br>
+What kind of plan do we need? (Maybe start that in a new thread?)<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making<br>
+&gt;&gt; and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,<br>
+&gt;&gt; graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still<br>
+&gt;&gt; welcome, but not enough to move forward;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; So, sort of a reward for participating? Interesting.... but might not work.<br>
+<br>
+</div>Then what would you suggest that would work better?<br>
+<br>
+Here it&#39;s not a reward; it&#39;s a right, if you participate/make things<br>
+or if you&#39;re included by the team peers; and it&#39;s how it happens in<br>
+other teams (packagers, dev, sysadmin, qa, i18n, etc.<br></blockquote><div><br>Yes, I can see that. But part of the problem that we&#39;ve had recently is with people not contributing.<br>It&#39;s fine to say &quot;If you contribute then you get a say in what happens&quot; but if nobody is contributing....<br>
+I can&#39;t really think of any alternative, since it is a very good way to do things.<br>I&#39;m just a little concerned about people not contributing.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer<br>
+</div>&gt;&gt; getting in touch/inviting a professional person [...]<br>
+<div class="im">&gt;<br>
+&gt; I think iamoverrated has already started doing this with a graphic designer.<br>
+&gt; I&#39;m not sure on the details, we&#39;ve been playing IRC tag for a week or so...<br>
+<br>
+</div>Oh, that&#39;s great then. That would be even greater that details (what<br>
+work, what scope, when, how, etc.) and progress are posted on this<br>
+list so that things are not wasted or duplicated in the end.<br>
+<div class="im"><br></div></blockquote><div><br>I&#39;ll ping him and see what he can tell us.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="im">
+&gt;&gt;  - formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from<br>
+&gt;&gt; external people are made easier is a true option too (that means<br>
+&gt;&gt; things easier to grasp, understand and update);<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; How?<br>
+<br>
+</div>I don&#39;t know. At this time, I only can find GitHub&#39;s &quot;fork and pull&quot;<br>
+way very inspiring<br>
+(<a href="https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests" target="_blank">https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests</a>) + more<br>
+documentation on how/why things are as they are.<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through<br>
+&gt;&gt; the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not<br>
+&gt;&gt; a must, just good to have;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Where will we be hanging out? New channel? One of the existing channels?<br>
+<br>
+</div>We&#39;ll see. &quot;No meeting&quot; policy doesn&#39;t prevent from chatting, hopefully :-p<br></blockquote><div><br>Indeed.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:20 AM, Romain d&#39;Alverny <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com" target="_blank">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="im">On Sun, Jun 10, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Max Quarterpleen &lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Romain d&#39;Alverny &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
+</div><div class="im">&gt;&gt;  - this team is named &quot;atelier&quot;;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; My French is a little rusty. Does that mean &quot;workshop&quot;?<br>
+<br>
+</div>Yes.<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt; Who came up with that name?<br>
+<br>
+</div>Doesn&#39;t matter. It&#39;s just picked to have something.<br></blockquote><div><br>OK, sounds good.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<br>
+&gt; How is it pronounced?<br>
+<br>
+/a.tə.lje/ see <a href="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier" target="_blank">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/atelier</a><br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt; And why? (I personally was starting to like webartcom)<br>
+<br>
+</div>webartcom is reductive - and ugly.<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - a new mailing-list is open for that;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Are all participants of -marcom, -web and -artwork automatically subscribed<br>
+&gt; to this new list? What is the address? (So I can create a new mail filter)<br>
+<br>
+</div>This list is not registered yet. All participants will have to<br>
+subscribe, an update message stating each former list being closed and<br>
+directions to subscribe to the new list will be sent.<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but<br>
+&gt;&gt; locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; When will this happen?<br>
+<br>
+</div>As soon as 3 or 4 people can agree on a plan and there&#39;s no large<br>
+objection from others, and Council validates it. A good time would be<br>
+by the end of this week.<br></blockquote><div><br>Count me in. I don&#39;t know how much I&#39;ll be able to help, I&#39;ve got a lot going in in meatspace now, but I really do want to see things moving along on this.<br>
+What kind of plan do we need? (Maybe start that in a new thread?)<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making<br>
+&gt;&gt; and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,<br>
+&gt;&gt; graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still<br>
+&gt;&gt; welcome, but not enough to move forward;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; So, sort of a reward for participating? Interesting.... but might not work.<br>
+<br>
+</div>Then what would you suggest that would work better?<br>
+<br>
+Here it&#39;s not a reward; it&#39;s a right, if you participate/make things<br>
+or if you&#39;re included by the team peers; and it&#39;s how it happens in<br>
+other teams (packagers, dev, sysadmin, qa, i18n, etc.<br></blockquote><div><br>Yes, I can see that. But part of the problem that we&#39;ve had recently is with people not contributing.<br>It&#39;s fine to say &quot;If you contribute then you get a say in what happens&quot; but if nobody is contributing....<br>
+I can&#39;t really think of any alternative, since it is a very good way to do things.<br>I&#39;m just a little concerned about people not contributing.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer<br>
+</div>&gt;&gt; getting in touch/inviting a professional person [...]<br>
+<div class="im">&gt;<br>
+&gt; I think iamoverrated has already started doing this with a graphic designer.<br>
+&gt; I&#39;m not sure on the details, we&#39;ve been playing IRC tag for a week or so...<br>
+<br>
+</div>Oh, that&#39;s great then. That would be even greater that details (what<br>
+work, what scope, when, how, etc.) and progress are posted on this<br>
+list so that things are not wasted or duplicated in the end.<br>
+<div class="im"><br></div></blockquote><div><br>I&#39;ll ping him and see what he can tell us.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div class="im">
+&gt;&gt;  - formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from<br>
+&gt;&gt; external people are made easier is a true option too (that means<br>
+&gt;&gt; things easier to grasp, understand and update);<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; How?<br>
+<br>
+</div>I don&#39;t know. At this time, I only can find GitHub&#39;s &quot;fork and pull&quot;<br>
+way very inspiring<br>
+(<a href="https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests" target="_blank">https://help.github.com/articles/using-pull-requests</a>) + more<br>
+documentation on how/why things are as they are.<br>
+<div class="im"><br>
+&gt;&gt;  - no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through<br>
+&gt;&gt; the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not<br>
+&gt;&gt; a must, just good to have;<br>
+&gt;<br>
+&gt; Where will we be hanging out? New channel? One of the existing channels?<br>
+<br>
+</div>We&#39;ll see. &quot;No meeting&quot; policy doesn&#39;t prevent from chatting, hopefully :-p<br></blockquote><div><br>Indeed.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Joita Dan-Marian <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:djmarian4u@hotmail.com" target="_blank">djmarian4u@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+
+<div><div dir="ltr">
+Hi,<br>
+ <br>
+ I would like to have a mageia banner on my website, it can be
+ written in English. I can translate it in Romanian, i am a member of
+ the translation team.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Have a look at this thread: <a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=83&amp;p=14265">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=83&amp;p=14265</a><br>
+I have the xcf (Gimp source) files somewhere, so it shouldn&#39;t be too hard to get it in Romanian.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div><div dir="ltr">
+ <a href="http://www.famitemele.ro" target="_blank">www.famitemele.ro</a>,
+ some students (I am no longer a student) that try to help education
+ grow (we do have a problem, they want us to solve their homework
+ completely), I can be contacted for this because I started the page,
+ Romanian (and I will translate the framework to English)<br>
+ <br>
+ Someone suggested I should add a &#39;powered by Mageia&#39; but text is not
+ so eye catching.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+ <pre cols="72">--
+
+With respect,
+Dan-Marian, Joiţa.</pre> </font></span></div></div>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 11:50 AM, Joita Dan-Marian <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:djmarian4u@hotmail.com" target="_blank">djmarian4u@hotmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+
+<div><div dir="ltr">
+Hi,<br>
+ <br>
+ I would like to have a mageia banner on my website, it can be
+ written in English. I can translate it in Romanian, i am a member of
+ the translation team.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Have a look at this thread: <a href="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=83&amp;p=14265">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=12&amp;t=83&amp;p=14265</a><br>
+I have the xcf (Gimp source) files somewhere, so it shouldn&#39;t be too hard to get it in Romanian.<br> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div><div dir="ltr">
+ <a href="http://www.famitemele.ro" target="_blank">www.famitemele.ro</a>,
+ some students (I am no longer a student) that try to help education
+ grow (we do have a problem, they want us to solve their homework
+ completely), I can be contacted for this because I started the page,
+ Romanian (and I will translate the framework to English)<br>
+ <br>
+ Someone suggested I should add a &#39;powered by Mageia&#39; but text is not
+ so eye catching.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+ <pre cols="72">--
+
+With respect,
+Dan-Marian, Joiţa.</pre> </font></span></div></div>
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<p>Few things, but as always, sorry for the top post. I only have my phone.</p>
+<p>The name is irrelevant, and it sounding like &quot;magic&quot; also,this was the issues with the previous teams, to many fine details.</p>
+<p>As for the leadership, I feel that each sub group should still have at least a coordinator, but there is still an overall leader who is responsible for the whole team. I nominate rda for this, with trish and max being the respective chair people.</p>
+
+<p>The wiki should still have sections devoted to each sub group, but generally linked from the atelier page. This not only keeps it neat but also reduces work.</p>
+<p>The goals mga 3 should not be set high, having the core work that we need to do done with time for testing/checking will most likely be enough to keep us easily busy.</p>
+<p>Finally, the implication that there are so few people in marcom and artwork that actually do anything is getting really annoying, I for one have seen many people, well 3 other than trish and seb working on the release texts, and artwork has many people that work behind scenes, they just aren&#39;t so vocal here but that doesn&#39;t mean that they don&#39;t work. While I realise that the release has been tough and stressful on many people and mageia isnt the only thing they need to deal with, but the in fighting and negative feel that has appeared recently must stop if this team is to grow and work together.</p>
+
+<p>I like thw idea of no meetings and working on stuff yourself, but we must keep people aware of what we are doing, artwork lost months because of this with choosing the background. </p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 11 Jun 2012 16:39, &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br><p><font color="#500050">On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Sebastian &lt;<a href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; Now imagine if I had ...</font></p>So say what you do in the project (shorter and to the point), not what<br>
+the title says.<br>
+<p><font color="#500050"><br>&gt; Also Mageia may be a French distribution really, but Mageia exists in a tech<br>&gt; world where people...</font></p>So what? It&#39;s a team _name_. &quot;mageia&quot; isn&#39;t English either. If _that_<br>
+
+keeps some people away, really, well, it&#39;s not a loss.<br>
+<p><font color="#500050">_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>Mageia-marketing@magei...</font></p></blockquote></p>
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+<p>Few things, but as always, sorry for the top post. I only have my phone.</p>
+<p>The name is irrelevant, and it sounding like &quot;magic&quot; also,this was the issues with the previous teams, to many fine details.</p>
+<p>As for the leadership, I feel that each sub group should still have at least a coordinator, but there is still an overall leader who is responsible for the whole team. I nominate rda for this, with trish and max being the respective chair people.</p>
+
+<p>The wiki should still have sections devoted to each sub group, but generally linked from the atelier page. This not only keeps it neat but also reduces work.</p>
+<p>The goals mga 3 should not be set high, having the core work that we need to do done with time for testing/checking will most likely be enough to keep us easily busy.</p>
+<p>Finally, the implication that there are so few people in marcom and artwork that actually do anything is getting really annoying, I for one have seen many people, well 3 other than trish and seb working on the release texts, and artwork has many people that work behind scenes, they just aren&#39;t so vocal here but that doesn&#39;t mean that they don&#39;t work. While I realise that the release has been tough and stressful on many people and mageia isnt the only thing they need to deal with, but the in fighting and negative feel that has appeared recently must stop if this team is to grow and work together.</p>
+
+<p>I like thw idea of no meetings and working on stuff yourself, but we must keep people aware of what we are doing, artwork lost months because of this with choosing the background. </p>
+<p><blockquote type="cite">On 11 Jun 2012 16:39, &quot;Romain d&#39;Alverny&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:rdalverny@gmail.com">rdalverny@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br><p><font color="#500050">On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Sebastian &lt;<a href="mailto:sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com">sebsebseb_mageia@gmx.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
+&gt; Now imagine if I had ...</font></p>So say what you do in the project (shorter and to the point), not what<br>
+the title says.<br>
+<p><font color="#500050"><br>&gt; Also Mageia may be a French distribution really, but Mageia exists in a tech<br>&gt; world where people...</font></p>So what? It&#39;s a team _name_. &quot;mageia&quot; isn&#39;t English either. If _that_<br>
+
+keeps some people away, really, well, it&#39;s not a loss.<br>
+<p><font color="#500050">_______________________________________________<br>Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>Mageia-marketing@magei...</font></p></blockquote></p>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Donald Stewart <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com" target="_blank">watersnowrock@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<p>Few things, but as always, sorry for the top post. I only have my phone.</p>
+<p>The name is irrelevant, and it sounding like &quot;magic&quot; also,this was the issues with the previous teams, to many fine details.</p>
+<p>As for the leadership, I feel that each sub group should still have at least a coordinator, but there is still an overall leader who is responsible for the whole team. I nominate rda for this, with trish and max being the respective chair people.</p>
+
+
+<p>The wiki should still have sections devoted to each sub group, but generally linked from the atelier page. This not only keeps it neat but also reduces work.</p>
+<p>The goals mga 3 should not be set high, having the core work that we need to do done with time for testing/checking will most likely be enough to keep us easily busy.</p>
+<p>Finally, the implication that there are so few people in marcom and artwork that actually do anything is getting really annoying, I for one have seen many people, well 3 other than trish and seb working on the release texts, and artwork has many people that work behind scenes, they just aren&#39;t so vocal here but that doesn&#39;t mean that they don&#39;t work.</p>
+</blockquote><div><br>You weren&#39;t in all those meetings that comprised of me, Tumbeliina and one other rotating person. They basically went like this: discuss something a little bit, decide what needs to get done, call for volunteer, silence.....<br>
+When this pattern repeats itself time and time again, one can&#39;t help but get a certain feeling.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<p> While I realise that the release has been tough and stressful on many people and mageia isnt the only thing they need to deal with, but the in fighting and negative feel that has appeared recently must stop if this team is to grow and work together.</p>
+</blockquote><div><br>I agree. But we should also learn from our past mistakes, that&#39;s why we make them.<br>Bringing up an issue is the first, and most important, step in learning from one&#39;s mistakes.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+
+<p>I like thw idea of no meetings and working on stuff yourself, but we must keep people aware of what we are doing, artwork lost months because of this with choosing the background. </p></blockquote><div><br>Indeed.<br>
+I think that a way for this to happen would for all the work being done be done on the Mageia servers, and each file contain a detailed history of who did what when. That way we can all pick and choose what we are working on, and at any given time know what anybody else is working on.<br>
+Having never done this sort of work, I can&#39;t recommend any software that does this, but I have heard rumors of git and svn. Maybe one of them have the features we need.<br></div></div></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:23 PM, Donald Stewart <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:watersnowrock@gmail.com" target="_blank">watersnowrock@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<p>Few things, but as always, sorry for the top post. I only have my phone.</p>
+<p>The name is irrelevant, and it sounding like &quot;magic&quot; also,this was the issues with the previous teams, to many fine details.</p>
+<p>As for the leadership, I feel that each sub group should still have at least a coordinator, but there is still an overall leader who is responsible for the whole team. I nominate rda for this, with trish and max being the respective chair people.</p>
+
+
+<p>The wiki should still have sections devoted to each sub group, but generally linked from the atelier page. This not only keeps it neat but also reduces work.</p>
+<p>The goals mga 3 should not be set high, having the core work that we need to do done with time for testing/checking will most likely be enough to keep us easily busy.</p>
+<p>Finally, the implication that there are so few people in marcom and artwork that actually do anything is getting really annoying, I for one have seen many people, well 3 other than trish and seb working on the release texts, and artwork has many people that work behind scenes, they just aren&#39;t so vocal here but that doesn&#39;t mean that they don&#39;t work.</p>
+</blockquote><div><br>You weren&#39;t in all those meetings that comprised of me, Tumbeliina and one other rotating person. They basically went like this: discuss something a little bit, decide what needs to get done, call for volunteer, silence.....<br>
+When this pattern repeats itself time and time again, one can&#39;t help but get a certain feeling.<br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<p> While I realise that the release has been tough and stressful on many people and mageia isnt the only thing they need to deal with, but the in fighting and negative feel that has appeared recently must stop if this team is to grow and work together.</p>
+</blockquote><div><br>I agree. But we should also learn from our past mistakes, that&#39;s why we make them.<br>Bringing up an issue is the first, and most important, step in learning from one&#39;s mistakes.<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+
+
+<p>I like thw idea of no meetings and working on stuff yourself, but we must keep people aware of what we are doing, artwork lost months because of this with choosing the background. </p></blockquote><div><br>Indeed.<br>
+I think that a way for this to happen would for all the work being done be done on the Mageia servers, and each file contain a detailed history of who did what when. That way we can all pick and choose what we are working on, and at any given time know what anybody else is working on.<br>
+Having never done this sort of work, I can&#39;t recommend any software that does this, but I have heard rumors of git and svn. Maybe one of them have the features we need.<br></div></div></div>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#009900" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ On 06/12/2012 07:15 PM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CANa9xwse0VjwciOn3-_6sTnwXRyxFJMBiqDJfVzH1TM4o3uT8A@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">The one of these that I felt could really use some urgent attention is
+Wikipedia. [...]
+If perhaps someone either from this team or maybe the document team
+has some approved language I could write a proposal for a Wikipedia update.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+What do you suggest to write?
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ I was thinking mostly just about expanding on features, mission,
+ community, etc.&nbsp; I'm going through the archives now, but I am
+ looking to see where I can currently be of the most help while my
+ workload is lighter.&nbsp; Would you like me to write a mock page?<br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#009900" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ On 06/12/2012 07:15 PM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CANa9xwse0VjwciOn3-_6sTnwXRyxFJMBiqDJfVzH1TM4o3uT8A@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <blockquote type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">The one of these that I felt could really use some urgent attention is
+Wikipedia. [...]
+If perhaps someone either from this team or maybe the document team
+has some approved language I could write a proposal for a Wikipedia update.
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <pre wrap="">
+What do you suggest to write?
+_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ I was thinking mostly just about expanding on features, mission,
+ community, etc.&nbsp; I'm going through the archives now, but I am
+ looking to see where I can currently be of the most help while my
+ workload is lighter.&nbsp; Would you like me to write a mock page?<br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ On 06/09/2012 12:27 PM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CANa9xwtG=A5L6HKxBeGiaU38myW1=8g8C6P68xX1RY0nL0ZLKA@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi everyone, (xposted on -marketing, -artwork and -webteam; if
+possible, please follow-up in -marketing)
+
+So here's the plan (actually, that's a suggestion of a plan):
+ - we make a new team; which role is to think, design, produce and
+maintain the identity of the project and its declinations in messages,
+graphics, Web and print [1];
+ - this team is named "atelier";
+ - a new mailing-list is open for that;
+ - it practically merges responsibilities from artwork, web and marcom teams;
+ - it integrates roles as diverse as: design, marketing, graphic
+research and production, copy writing, web design, integration and
+development, curation, etc.
+ - existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but
+locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;
+ - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making
+and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,
+graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still
+welcome, but not enough to move forward;
+ - external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer
+getting in touch/inviting a professional person to propose and work on
+a specific, focused topic, from overall project identity design, down
+to a specific production. It only needs to be stated within the team
+first so that everyone is in sync;
+ - formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from
+external people are made easier is a true option too (that means
+things easier to grasp, understand and update);
+ - no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through
+the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not
+a must, just good to have;
+ - no more than 10 hours a week on Mageia.
+
+Questions:
+ - who's going to lead this?
+ - what's the plan up to Mageia 3? several things at least in several
+regards (identity, print, web, distribution), but that will highly
+depend on who lead(s) the team.
+
+[1] ideally, everything that's the public face of Mageia.Org, the
+Mageia distribution and the Mageia project should go through this
+team; that does not mean that things will not be flexible, but if
+there's one place to discuss, document and synchronize all this work,
+it's here. That, in turn, requires some responsiveness and initiative
+from the team members.
+_______________________________________________an
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <font face="Utopia">Sounds good to me.&nbsp; I would like to take on some
+ work especially concerning Marketing where it appears that we're
+ especially thin here.&nbsp; I feel that although the distrowatch
+ page-hits are high, there is not nearly enough of an overall web
+ presence.&nbsp; I think that Mageia has an especially good potential to
+ poach Ubunt/Mint users but the buzz just isn't there.&nbsp; I t</font>ried
+
+
+ to add some sites to the list in sandbox, but was denied
+ permission.&nbsp; Here are some sites I found:<br>
+ <br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.lifehacker.com/">http://www.lifehacker.com/</a>
+ Gawkers tech blog.&nbsp; Allot of entry level Linux users<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://linux.slashdot.org/">http://linux.slashdot.org/</a>
+ /EN - Very well known IT Blog<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.desktoplinuxreviews.com">http://www.desktoplinuxreviews.com</a>
+ /EN Linux reviews<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com</a>
+ /EN Linux/Informational<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.linuxbsdos.com">http://www.linuxbsdos.com</a>
+ /EN Linux Reviews<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="https://www.linuxquestions.org">https://www.linuxquestions.org</a>
+ /&nbsp; Linux/Informational<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia</a><br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.techradar.com">http://www.techradar.com</a>
+ /EN Tech News &amp; Info<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.gnu.org">https://www.gnu.org</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.linuxbasis.com/distributions.html">http://www.linuxbasis.com/distributions.html</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dedoimedo.com">http://www.dedoimedo.com</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.linuxinsider.com">http://www.linuxinsider.com</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.linuxjournal.com">http://www.linuxjournal.com</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://linuxos.pro">http://linuxos.pro</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.thisweekinlinux.com">http://www.thisweekinlinux.com</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ <br>
+ The one of these that I felt could really use some urgent attention
+ is Wikipedia.&nbsp; I know this committee/team is in a state of flux with
+ the merge and all but every day that goes by is a day further away
+ from its' release.&nbsp;&nbsp; I have my main contract winding down here so I
+ have some extra time.&nbsp; If perhaps someone either from this team or
+ maybe the document team has some approved language I could write a
+ proposal for a Wikipedia update.&nbsp; Let me know what everyone thinks.<br>
+ <br>
+ Kind Regards,<br>
+ <br>
+ Digigold<br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">--<br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ On 06/09/2012 12:27 PM, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CANa9xwtG=A5L6HKxBeGiaU38myW1=8g8C6P68xX1RY0nL0ZLKA@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi everyone, (xposted on -marketing, -artwork and -webteam; if
+possible, please follow-up in -marketing)
+
+So here's the plan (actually, that's a suggestion of a plan):
+ - we make a new team; which role is to think, design, produce and
+maintain the identity of the project and its declinations in messages,
+graphics, Web and print [1];
+ - this team is named "atelier";
+ - a new mailing-list is open for that;
+ - it practically merges responsibilities from artwork, web and marcom teams;
+ - it integrates roles as diverse as: design, marketing, graphic
+research and production, copy writing, web design, integration and
+development, curation, etc.
+ - existing web, marcom and artwork lists are kept for archive, but
+locked down and all subscribers are unsubscribed;
+ - will have a say in whatever happens in this team, only those making
+and contributing things (so here, actionable designs, working code,
+graphics or copy, etc.); opinions and feedback from others still
+welcome, but not enough to move forward;
+ - external contributions are a true option; that is, one team peer
+getting in touch/inviting a professional person to propose and work on
+a specific, focused topic, from overall project identity design, down
+to a specific production. It only needs to be stated within the team
+first so that everyone is in sync;
+ - formatting our resources so that one-shot contributions from
+external people are made easier is a true option too (that means
+things easier to grasp, understand and update);
+ - no more meeting, we plan and do things, and update everyone through
+the mailing-list (or other, but asynchronous); so being on IRC is not
+a must, just good to have;
+ - no more than 10 hours a week on Mageia.
+
+Questions:
+ - who's going to lead this?
+ - what's the plan up to Mageia 3? several things at least in several
+regards (identity, print, web, distribution), but that will highly
+depend on who lead(s) the team.
+
+[1] ideally, everything that's the public face of Mageia.Org, the
+Mageia distribution and the Mageia project should go through this
+team; that does not mean that things will not be flexible, but if
+there's one place to discuss, document and synchronize all this work,
+it's here. That, in turn, requires some responsiveness and initiative
+from the team members.
+_______________________________________________an
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <font face="Utopia">Sounds good to me.&nbsp; I would like to take on some
+ work especially concerning Marketing where it appears that we're
+ especially thin here.&nbsp; I feel that although the distrowatch
+ page-hits are high, there is not nearly enough of an overall web
+ presence.&nbsp; I think that Mageia has an especially good potential to
+ poach Ubunt/Mint users but the buzz just isn't there.&nbsp; I t</font>ried
+
+
+ to add some sites to the list in sandbox, but was denied
+ permission.&nbsp; Here are some sites I found:<br>
+ <br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.lifehacker.com/">http://www.lifehacker.com/</a>
+ Gawkers tech blog.&nbsp; Allot of entry level Linux users<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://linux.slashdot.org/">http://linux.slashdot.org/</a>
+ /EN - Very well known IT Blog<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.desktoplinuxreviews.com">http://www.desktoplinuxreviews.com</a>
+ /EN Linux reviews<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://linuxblog.darkduck.com">http://linuxblog.darkduck.com</a>
+ /EN Linux/Informational<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.linuxbsdos.com">http://www.linuxbsdos.com</a>
+ /EN Linux Reviews<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="https://www.linuxquestions.org">https://www.linuxquestions.org</a>
+ /&nbsp; Linux/Informational<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mageia</a><br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.techradar.com">http://www.techradar.com</a>
+ /EN Tech News &amp; Info<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.gnu.org">https://www.gnu.org</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.linuxbasis.com/distributions.html">http://www.linuxbasis.com/distributions.html</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.dedoimedo.com">http://www.dedoimedo.com</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.linuxinsider.com">http://www.linuxinsider.com</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.linuxjournal.com">http://www.linuxjournal.com</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://linuxos.pro">http://linuxos.pro</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ * <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
+ href="http://www.thisweekinlinux.com">http://www.thisweekinlinux.com</a>
+ /EN<br>
+ <br>
+ The one of these that I felt could really use some urgent attention
+ is Wikipedia.&nbsp; I know this committee/team is in a state of flux with
+ the merge and all but every day that goes by is a day further away
+ from its' release.&nbsp;&nbsp; I have my main contract winding down here so I
+ have some extra time.&nbsp; If perhaps someone either from this team or
+ maybe the document team has some approved language I could write a
+ proposal for a Wikipedia update.&nbsp; Let me know what everyone thinks.<br>
+ <br>
+ Kind Regards,<br>
+ <br>
+ Digigold<br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">--<br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<div dir="ltr"><blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">We should probably leave this discussion for now and focus on founding<br></blockquote>
+<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+the new group.<br><br></blockquote><div><br>I agree.<br>The way I see it we should have one group (never mind the name) with three virtual task forces.<br>The task forces will not be real, just a sort of legacy issue for people from the old teams to have some initial direction in the new team. Ideally, everybody will contribute where he or she can.<br>
+These three virtual task forces should, however, have a real coordinator. One person who is in charge of looking out for a specific field. Aside from that there should be a team leader, who should be one of the task force leaders.<br>
+This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure: Someone willing to work on web design or a marketing poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate task coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other two what needs to be done for this by which task force, then one of these three (it doesn&#39;t really matter who) propagates that information back down to everybody else.<br>
+It will work the same way in reverse. The three coordinators come up with the final list of things that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable input and discussion from everybody, of course) and then coordinate the tasks.<br>
+I think that this allows for maximum communication and we don&#39;t end up with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.<br>Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come up with their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot and then act upon them as part of the group. Even if in the end they are working alone, the whole group is aware of what is going on.<br>
+</div></div></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">We should probably leave this discussion for now and focus on founding<br></blockquote>
+<div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+the new group.<br><br></blockquote><div><br>I agree.<br>The way I see it we should have one group (never mind the name) with three virtual task forces.<br>The task forces will not be real, just a sort of legacy issue for people from the old teams to have some initial direction in the new team. Ideally, everybody will contribute where he or she can.<br>
+These three virtual task forces should, however, have a real coordinator. One person who is in charge of looking out for a specific field. Aside from that there should be a team leader, who should be one of the task force leaders.<br>
+This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure: Someone willing to work on web design or a marketing poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate task coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other two what needs to be done for this by which task force, then one of these three (it doesn&#39;t really matter who) propagates that information back down to everybody else.<br>
+It will work the same way in reverse. The three coordinators come up with the final list of things that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable input and discussion from everybody, of course) and then coordinate the tasks.<br>
+I think that this allows for maximum communication and we don&#39;t end up with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.<br>Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come up with their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot and then act upon them as part of the group. Even if in the end they are working alone, the whole group is aware of what is going on.<br>
+</div></div></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Jonathan Ingold <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ingoldjo@gmail.com" target="_blank">ingoldjo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+
+
+
+ <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900"><div><div class="h5">
+ <div>On 06/17/2012 09:44 AM, Max
+ Quarterpleen wrote:<br>
+ </div>
+ </div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5">
+ <div dir="ltr">So...<br>
+ Did this initiative die, or what?<br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Max
+ Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
+ wrote:<br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div>
+ <blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
+ We should probably leave this discussion for now and
+ focus on founding<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ the new group.<br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ I agree.<br>
+ The way I see it we should have one group (never mind
+ the name) with three virtual task forces.<br>
+ The task forces will not be real, just a sort of
+ legacy issue for people from the old teams to have
+ some initial direction in the new team. Ideally,
+ everybody will contribute where he or she can.<br>
+ These three virtual task forces should, however, have
+ a real coordinator. One person who is in charge of
+ looking out for a specific field. Aside from that
+ there should be a team leader, who should be one of
+ the task force leaders.<br>
+ This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure:
+ Someone willing to work on web design or a marketing
+ poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate task
+ coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other
+ two what needs to be done for this by which task
+ force, then one of these three (it doesn&#39;t really
+ matter who) propagates that information back down to
+ everybody else.<br>
+ It will work the same way in reverse. The three
+ coordinators come up with the final list of things
+ that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable input
+ and discussion from everybody, of course) and then
+ coordinate the tasks.<br>
+ I think that this allows for maximum communication and
+ we don&#39;t end up with the left hand not knowing what
+ the right hand is doing.<br>
+ Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come
+ up with their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot
+ and then act upon them as part of the group. Even if
+ in the end they are working alone, the whole group is
+ aware of what is going on.<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ </div></div><div class="im"><pre>_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </div></blockquote>
+ <font face="Utopia">So how bout someone with admin rights on
+ <a href="http://ml.mageia.org" target="_blank">ml.mageia.org</a> creates an atelier</font> or whatever list so we can
+ at least start this.<br></div></blockquote><div><br>It needs council approval first. That was supposed to happen last week but didn&#39;t, it might happen this week.<br>I just wanted to know if there was anything else people wanted to discuss some more.<br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ <br>
+ Also I have noticed that some people are adding their comments on
+ top like the very email I am responding to. Does Mageia prefer
+ top-adds or bottom adds?</div></blockquote><div><br>Mageia as a community prefers bottom or middle adds. I was just being lazy :P<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+ <br>
+ <div>-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>&quot;A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions.&quot;</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </font></span></div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 17, 2012 at 5:01 PM, Jonathan Ingold <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ingoldjo@gmail.com" target="_blank">ingoldjo@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+
+
+
+
+ <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900"><div><div class="h5">
+ <div>On 06/17/2012 09:44 AM, Max
+ Quarterpleen wrote:<br>
+ </div>
+ </div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5">
+ <div dir="ltr">So...<br>
+ Did this initiative die, or what?<br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Max
+ Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
+ wrote:<br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div>
+ <blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
+ We should probably leave this discussion for now and
+ focus on founding<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ the new group.<br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ I agree.<br>
+ The way I see it we should have one group (never mind
+ the name) with three virtual task forces.<br>
+ The task forces will not be real, just a sort of
+ legacy issue for people from the old teams to have
+ some initial direction in the new team. Ideally,
+ everybody will contribute where he or she can.<br>
+ These three virtual task forces should, however, have
+ a real coordinator. One person who is in charge of
+ looking out for a specific field. Aside from that
+ there should be a team leader, who should be one of
+ the task force leaders.<br>
+ This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure:
+ Someone willing to work on web design or a marketing
+ poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate task
+ coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other
+ two what needs to be done for this by which task
+ force, then one of these three (it doesn&#39;t really
+ matter who) propagates that information back down to
+ everybody else.<br>
+ It will work the same way in reverse. The three
+ coordinators come up with the final list of things
+ that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable input
+ and discussion from everybody, of course) and then
+ coordinate the tasks.<br>
+ I think that this allows for maximum communication and
+ we don&#39;t end up with the left hand not knowing what
+ the right hand is doing.<br>
+ Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come
+ up with their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot
+ and then act upon them as part of the group. Even if
+ in the end they are working alone, the whole group is
+ aware of what is going on.<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ </div></div><div class="im"><pre>_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org" target="_blank">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </div></blockquote>
+ <font face="Utopia">So how bout someone with admin rights on
+ <a href="http://ml.mageia.org" target="_blank">ml.mageia.org</a> creates an atelier</font> or whatever list so we can
+ at least start this.<br></div></blockquote><div><br>It needs council approval first. That was supposed to happen last week but didn&#39;t, it might happen this week.<br>I just wanted to know if there was anything else people wanted to discuss some more.<br>
+</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ <br>
+ Also I have noticed that some people are adding their comments on
+ top like the very email I am responding to. Does Mageia prefer
+ top-adds or bottom adds?</div></blockquote><div><br>Mageia as a community prefers bottom or middle adds. I was just being lazy :P<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
+ <br>
+ <div>-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>&quot;A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions.&quot;</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </font></span></div>
+
+<br>_______________________________________________<br>
+Mageia-marketing mailing list<br>
+<a href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a><br>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing" target="_blank">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a><br>
+<br></blockquote></div><br></div>
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+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
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+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/17/2012 09:44 AM, Max
+ Quarterpleen wrote:<br>
+ </div>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=KyiX89JnaUWT+o8Q7VvuWOWoGFsbpe=BfDRge=vtfPYX9Q@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">So...<br>
+ Did this initiative die, or what?<br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Max
+ Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
+ wrote:<br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
+ .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="im">
+ <blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
+ We should probably leave this discussion for now and
+ focus on founding<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
+ .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ the new group.<br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ I agree.<br>
+ The way I see it we should have one group (never mind
+ the name) with three virtual task forces.<br>
+ The task forces will not be real, just a sort of
+ legacy issue for people from the old teams to have
+ some initial direction in the new team. Ideally,
+ everybody will contribute where he or she can.<br>
+ These three virtual task forces should, however, have
+ a real coordinator. One person who is in charge of
+ looking out for a specific field. Aside from that
+ there should be a team leader, who should be one of
+ the task force leaders.<br>
+ This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure:
+ Someone willing to work on web design or a marketing
+ poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate task
+ coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other
+ two what needs to be done for this by which task
+ force, then one of these three (it doesn't really
+ matter who) propagates that information back down to
+ everybody else.<br>
+ It will work the same way in reverse. The three
+ coordinators come up with the final list of things
+ that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable input
+ and discussion from everybody, of course) and then
+ coordinate the tasks.<br>
+ I think that this allows for maximum communication and
+ we don't end up with the left hand not knowing what
+ the right hand is doing.<br>
+ Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come
+ up with their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot
+ and then act upon them as part of the group. Even if
+ in the end they are working alone, the whole group is
+ aware of what is going on.<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <font face="Utopia">So how bout someone with admin rights on
+ ml.mageia.org creates an atelier</font> or whatever list so we can
+ at least start this.<br>
+ <br>
+ Also I have noticed that some people are adding their comments on
+ top like the very email I am responding to.&nbsp; Does Mageia prefer
+ top-adds or bottom adds?<br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#009900">
+ <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 06/17/2012 09:44 AM, Max
+ Quarterpleen wrote:<br>
+ </div>
+ <blockquote
+cite="mid:CABN=KyiX89JnaUWT+o8Q7VvuWOWoGFsbpe=BfDRge=vtfPYX9Q@mail.gmail.com"
+ type="cite">
+ <div dir="ltr">So...<br>
+ Did this initiative die, or what?<br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Max
+ Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
+ href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
+ wrote:<br>
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
+ .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ <div dir="ltr">
+ <div class="im">
+ <blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt
+ 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
+ rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
+ We should probably leave this discussion for now and
+ focus on founding<br>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <div class="gmail_quote">
+ <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
+ .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+ the new group.<br>
+ <br>
+ </blockquote>
+ <div><br>
+ I agree.<br>
+ The way I see it we should have one group (never mind
+ the name) with three virtual task forces.<br>
+ The task forces will not be real, just a sort of
+ legacy issue for people from the old teams to have
+ some initial direction in the new team. Ideally,
+ everybody will contribute where he or she can.<br>
+ These three virtual task forces should, however, have
+ a real coordinator. One person who is in charge of
+ looking out for a specific field. Aside from that
+ there should be a team leader, who should be one of
+ the task force leaders.<br>
+ This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure:
+ Someone willing to work on web design or a marketing
+ poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate task
+ coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other
+ two what needs to be done for this by which task
+ force, then one of these three (it doesn't really
+ matter who) propagates that information back down to
+ everybody else.<br>
+ It will work the same way in reverse. The three
+ coordinators come up with the final list of things
+ that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable input
+ and discussion from everybody, of course) and then
+ coordinate the tasks.<br>
+ I think that this allows for maximum communication and
+ we don't end up with the left hand not knowing what
+ the right hand is doing.<br>
+ Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come
+ up with their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot
+ and then act upon them as part of the group. Even if
+ in the end they are working alone, the whole group is
+ aware of what is going on.<br>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </div>
+ </blockquote>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ </div>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <font face="Utopia">So how bout someone with admin rights on
+ ml.mageia.org creates an atelier</font> or whatever list so we can
+ at least start this.<br>
+ <br>
+ Also I have noticed that some people are adding their comments on
+ top like the very email I am responding to.&nbsp; Does Mageia prefer
+ top-adds or bottom adds?<br>
+ <br>
+ <div class="moz-signature">-- <br>
+ <h4><font color="#FFCC00"><i>"A mind that is stretched by a new
+ experience can never go back to its old dimensions."</i></font>
+ </h4>
+ <h5><font color="#FF0000"><b>~Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.</b></font>
+ </h5>
+ </div>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<div dir="ltr">So...<br>Did this initiative die, or what?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Max Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="im"><blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
+We should probably leave this discussion for now and focus on founding<br></blockquote>
+</div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+the new group.<br><br></blockquote><div><br>I agree.<br>The way I see it we should have one group (never mind the name) with three virtual task forces.<br>The task forces will not be real, just a sort of legacy issue for people from the old teams to have some initial direction in the new team. Ideally, everybody will contribute where he or she can.<br>
+
+These three virtual task forces should, however, have a real coordinator. One person who is in charge of looking out for a specific field. Aside from that there should be a team leader, who should be one of the task force leaders.<br>
+
+This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure: Someone willing to work on web design or a marketing poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate task coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other two what needs to be done for this by which task force, then one of these three (it doesn&#39;t really matter who) propagates that information back down to everybody else.<br>
+
+It will work the same way in reverse. The three coordinators come up with the final list of things that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable input and discussion from everybody, of course) and then coordinate the tasks.<br>
+
+I think that this allows for maximum communication and we don&#39;t end up with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.<br>Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come up with their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot and then act upon them as part of the group. Even if in the end they are working alone, the whole group is aware of what is going on.<br>
+
+</div></div></div>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+<div dir="ltr">So...<br>Did this initiative die, or what?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Max Quarterpleen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:bogusman222@gmail.com" target="_blank">bogusman222@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
+<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="im"><blockquote style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote">
+We should probably leave this discussion for now and focus on founding<br></blockquote>
+</div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+the new group.<br><br></blockquote><div><br>I agree.<br>The way I see it we should have one group (never mind the name) with three virtual task forces.<br>The task forces will not be real, just a sort of legacy issue for people from the old teams to have some initial direction in the new team. Ideally, everybody will contribute where he or she can.<br>
+
+These three virtual task forces should, however, have a real coordinator. One person who is in charge of looking out for a specific field. Aside from that there should be a team leader, who should be one of the task force leaders.<br>
+
+This way we have a sort of hierarchical structure: Someone willing to work on web design or a marketing poster or whatnot turns to the appropriate task coordinator. He or she then discusses with the other two what needs to be done for this by which task force, then one of these three (it doesn&#39;t really matter who) propagates that information back down to everybody else.<br>
+
+It will work the same way in reverse. The three coordinators come up with the final list of things that need to be done for Mga3 (with considerable input and discussion from everybody, of course) and then coordinate the tasks.<br>
+
+I think that this allows for maximum communication and we don&#39;t end up with the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.<br>Furthermore, this allows for individual people to come up with their own ideas, plans, projects and whatnot and then act upon them as part of the group. Even if in the end they are working alone, the whole group is aware of what is going on.<br>
+
+</div></div></div>
+</blockquote></div><br></div>
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+ Bonjour Patricia,<br>
+ <br>
+ Le 2012-06-21 06:16, Patricia Fraser a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120621201642.00004014@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Would anyone who is interested in continuing to do marketing,
+communication, artwork or web-presence related work for Mageia, please
+subscribe to the atelier-discuss list?
+
+The Atelier team will be taking over from Marcom, Artwork and Webteam,
+and the current lists will be closed after a while.
+
+You need to have a Mageia identity registered before you join the
+atelier-discuss list; once you have that, go here to join:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss</a>
+
+See you there!
+
+</pre>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Where do I log in to join the mailing list? There does not seem to
+ be a log-in window. I think there is supposed to be a link to the
+ log-in page. <br>
+ <br>
+ Could you also please update the sentence that appears when you
+ click on "Subscribe"? it reads:<br>
+ <br>
+ "In order to subscribe to the list, you should open a account on <a
+ href="http://identity.mageia.org/">our account system.</a>.<br>
+ If you already have one, please log using your account in order to
+ subscribe."<br>
+ <br>
+ It should say:<br>
+ <br>
+ "In order to subscribe to the list, you should open a account on <a
+ href="http://identity.mageia.org/">our account system.</a>.<br>
+ If you already have one, please log-in using your account in order
+ to subscribe."<br>
+ <br>
+ Also, on the Mageia site, the mailing list does not appear to be on
+ "Marcom" team page which still encourages people to join the
+ "mageia-marketing" list.<br>
+ <br>
+ Cheers,<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ <br>
+ <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
+Marc Par&eacute;
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Marc@MarcPare.com">Marc@MarcPare.com</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</a>
+parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+parEntreprise.com Supports <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</a></pre>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ Bonjour Patricia,<br>
+ <br>
+ Le 2012-06-21 06:16, Patricia Fraser a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120621201642.00004014@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Would anyone who is interested in continuing to do marketing,
+communication, artwork or web-presence related work for Mageia, please
+subscribe to the atelier-discuss list?
+
+The Atelier team will be taking over from Marcom, Artwork and Webteam,
+and the current lists will be closed after a while.
+
+You need to have a Mageia identity registered before you join the
+atelier-discuss list; once you have that, go here to join:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss</a>
+
+See you there!
+
+</pre>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ Where do I log in to join the mailing list? There does not seem to
+ be a log-in window. I think there is supposed to be a link to the
+ log-in page. <br>
+ <br>
+ Could you also please update the sentence that appears when you
+ click on "Subscribe"? it reads:<br>
+ <br>
+ "In order to subscribe to the list, you should open a account on <a
+ href="http://identity.mageia.org/">our account system.</a>.<br>
+ If you already have one, please log using your account in order to
+ subscribe."<br>
+ <br>
+ It should say:<br>
+ <br>
+ "In order to subscribe to the list, you should open a account on <a
+ href="http://identity.mageia.org/">our account system.</a>.<br>
+ If you already have one, please log-in using your account in order
+ to subscribe."<br>
+ <br>
+ Also, on the Mageia site, the mailing list does not appear to be on
+ "Marcom" team page which still encourages people to join the
+ "mageia-marketing" list.<br>
+ <br>
+ Cheers,<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ <br>
+ <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
+Marc Par&eacute;
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Marc@MarcPare.com">Marc@MarcPare.com</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</a>
+parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+parEntreprise.com Supports <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</a></pre>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120621/5c5d5cad/attachment-0001.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120621/5c5d5cad/attachment-0001.html
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ Hi Patricia,<br>
+ <br>
+ Le 2012-06-21 06:16, Patricia Fraser a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120621201642.00004014@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Would anyone who is interested in continuing to do marketing,
+communication, artwork or web-presence related work for Mageia, please
+subscribe to the atelier-discuss list?
+
+The Atelier team will be taking over from Marcom, Artwork and Webteam,
+and the current lists will be closed after a while.
+
+You need to have a Mageia identity registered before you join the
+atelier-discuss list; once you have that, go here to join:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss</a>
+
+See you there!
+
+</pre>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I also forgot to ask if the list will be added to Gmane? <br>
+ <br>
+ Cheers,<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
+Marc Par&eacute;
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Marc@MarcPare.com">Marc@MarcPare.com</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</a>
+parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+parEntreprise.com Supports <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</a></pre>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120621/5c5d5cad/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120621/5c5d5cad/attachment.html
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ Hi Patricia,<br>
+ <br>
+ Le 2012-06-21 06:16, Patricia Fraser a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120621201642.00004014@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Would anyone who is interested in continuing to do marketing,
+communication, artwork or web-presence related work for Mageia, please
+subscribe to the atelier-discuss list?
+
+The Atelier team will be taking over from Marcom, Artwork and Webteam,
+and the current lists will be closed after a while.
+
+You need to have a Mageia identity registered before you join the
+atelier-discuss list; once you have that, go here to join:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss</a>
+
+See you there!
+
+</pre>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ <br>
+ I also forgot to ask if the list will be added to Gmane? <br>
+ <br>
+ Cheers,<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
+Marc Par&eacute;
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Marc@MarcPare.com">Marc@MarcPare.com</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</a>
+parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+parEntreprise.com Supports <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</a></pre>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ Hi Patricia<br>
+ <br>
+ Le 2012-06-21 06:16, Patricia Fraser a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120621201642.00004014@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Would anyone who is interested in continuing to do marketing,
+communication, artwork or web-presence related work for Mageia, please
+subscribe to the atelier-discuss list?
+
+The Atelier team will be taking over from Marcom, Artwork and Webteam,
+and the current lists will be closed after a while.
+
+You need to have a Mageia identity registered before you join the
+atelier-discuss list; once you have that, go here to join:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss</a>
+
+See you there!
+
+</pre>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ My apologies. I had a "Duh" moment and now see the login at the top
+ of the page.<br>
+ <br>
+ Sorry,<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ <br>
+ <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
+Marc Par&eacute;
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Marc@MarcPare.com">Marc@MarcPare.com</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</a>
+parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+parEntreprise.com Supports <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</a></pre>
+ </body>
+</html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120621/b57e3dac/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-marketing/attachments/20120621/b57e3dac/attachment.html
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@@ -0,0 +1,51 @@
+<html>
+ <head>
+ <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
+ http-equiv="Content-Type">
+ </head>
+ <body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
+ Hi Patricia<br>
+ <br>
+ Le 2012-06-21 06:16, Patricia Fraser a &eacute;crit&nbsp;:
+ <blockquote cite="mid:20120621201642.00004014@unknown" type="cite">
+ <pre wrap="">Hi all,
+
+Would anyone who is interested in continuing to do marketing,
+communication, artwork or web-presence related work for Mageia, please
+subscribe to the atelier-discuss list?
+
+The Atelier team will be taking over from Marcom, Artwork and Webteam,
+and the current lists will be closed after a while.
+
+You need to have a Mageia identity registered before you join the
+atelier-discuss list; once you have that, go here to join:
+
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/l/info/atelier-discuss</a>
+
+See you there!
+
+</pre>
+ <br>
+ <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
+ <br>
+ <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
+Mageia-marketing mailing list
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Mageia-marketing@mageia.org">Mageia-marketing@mageia.org</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</a>
+</pre>
+ </blockquote>
+ My apologies. I had a "Duh" moment and now see the login at the top
+ of the page.<br>
+ <br>
+ Sorry,<br>
+ <br>
+ Marc<br>
+ <br>
+ <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
+Marc Par&eacute;
+<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Marc@MarcPare.com">Marc@MarcPare.com</a>
+<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.parEntreprise.com">http://www.parEntreprise.com</a>
+parEntreprise.com Supports OpenDocument Formats (ODF)
+parEntreprise.com Supports <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.LibreOffice.org">http://www.LibreOffice.org</a></pre>
+ </body>
+</html>
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+
+ <html>
+ <head>
+ <style type="text/css">
+ html {-webkit-text-size-adjust:none;}
+body { background-color:#F4F4F4; padding:0;margin:0;width:100%;margin:0 auto; }
+.mobile-email{ display: none; }
+.ReadMsgBody {width: 100%;}
+.ExternalClass {width: 100%;}
+@media all and (max-width: 590px) {
+.desktop-email{ display: none; }
+.mobile-email{ display: block; }
+ *[class].responsive {
+ width:320px !important;
+ }
+}
+
+ </style>
+ </head>
+ <body >
+
+
+
+
+
+
+ <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Arial;" width="100%" bgcolor="#F4F4F4"><tr><td align="center">
+
+
+
+
+<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Arial;" width="550">
+ <tr><td>
+ <table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:10px;font-size:10px;line-height:10px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>
+ </td></tr>
+ <tr><td align="left">
+ <img src="http://www.linkedin.com/scds/common/u/img/logos/logo_emails_trans_98x24.png" alt="LinkedIn" border="0" height="24" width="98">
+ </td></tr>
+ <tr><td>
+ <table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:10px;font-size:10px;line-height:10px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>
+ </td></tr>
+</table>
+
+<table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Arial;border:solid 1px #DDDDDD;-moz-border-radius:5px;-webkit-border-radius:5px;border-radius:5px;" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" width="550"><tr><td colspan="3"><table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:15px;font-size:15px;line-height:15px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td></tr><tr><td width="1%"><table width="15" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:0px;font-size:0px;line-height:0px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td><td width="98%" valign="top" align="">
+ <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Arial;" width="100%">
+ <tr>
+ <td style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px">
+ <div>
+ <b style="font-size:16px;margin-right:12px">De Otto S&#xe1;</b>
+ </div>
+ <table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:6px;font-size:6px;line-height:6px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>
+ <div style="color:#666666">Professor de Legisla&#xe7;&#xe3;o ambiental na FAETEC</div>
+ <div style="color:#666666">Brasil</div>
+ <table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table>
+ </td>
+ </tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td style="border:1px dotted #DDDDDD;border-width:1px 0">
+ <table border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" style="font-family:Arial;background:#F2FAFF;width:100%" >
+ <tr><td colspan="3"><table width="1" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:4px;font-size:4px;line-height:4px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td></tr>
+ <tr>
+ <td><table width="5" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tr><td><div style="height:0px;font-size:0px;line-height:0px;">&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table></td>
+ <td style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12px">
+ <p>
+ Mageia,<br/>
+<br/>
+Eu gostaria de adicioná-lo à minha rede profissional no LinkedIn.<br/>
+-Otto
+ </p>
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+ Mageia,<br/>
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+Eu gostaria de adicioná-lo à minha rede profissional no LinkedIn.<br/>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Joerg Stephan <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:johe.stephan@ymail.com" target="_blank">johe.stephan@ymail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><div>Good morning,</div><div><br></div><div style="background-color:transparent">my name is Jrg Stephan and i am an 33 years old systemadministrator from Germany (Saarland), i mostly work with Debian, Ubuntu and SUSE servers. Last weekend i tried mageia in private and i really like what i see. So i would like to help if i can and donate some time to help making mageia better (if i can).</div>
+<div style="background-color:transparent"><br></div><div style="background-color:transparent">Kind regards</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Good morning Jrg!<br>Welcome to Mageia!<br>A few months ago the Marketing team merged with the Artwork and Web teams (due to similar goals and much working together) to form the new Atelier team.<br>
+You can subscribe to the mailing list here: <a href="https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/atelier-discuss</a><br>The IRC channel we use is #mageia-atelier on Freenode.<br>
+We&#39;re very glad to see that you like Mageia, and welcome any contribution you can offer.<br>Max<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><div style="background-color:transparent"><br></div><div style="background-color:transparent">Jrg</div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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+<div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Joerg Stephan <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:johe.stephan@ymail.com" target="_blank">johe.stephan@ymail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
+<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><div>Good morning,</div><div><br></div><div style="background-color:transparent">my name is Jrg Stephan and i am an 33 years old systemadministrator from Germany (Saarland), i mostly work with Debian, Ubuntu and SUSE servers. Last weekend i tried mageia in private and i really like what i see. So i would like to help if i can and donate some time to help making mageia better (if i can).</div>
+<div style="background-color:transparent"><br></div><div style="background-color:transparent">Kind regards</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br>Good morning Jrg!<br>Welcome to Mageia!<br>A few months ago the Marketing team merged with the Artwork and Web teams (due to similar goals and much working together) to form the new Atelier team.<br>
+You can subscribe to the mailing list here: <a href="https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/atelier-discuss">https://ml.mageia.org/wwsympa-wrapper.fcgi/info/atelier-discuss</a><br>The IRC channel we use is #mageia-atelier on Freenode.<br>
+We&#39;re very glad to see that you like Mageia, and welcome any contribution you can offer.<br>Max<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
+<div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:times new roman,new york,times,serif"><div><div style="background-color:transparent"><br></div><div style="background-color:transparent">Jrg</div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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