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(is it a one-time ideas +</I>><i> site, for the current brainstorm session, or is it a all-times-long +</I>><i> website?) I agree that an app like this is a great toold. But I also +</I>><i> know from experience that having no clear plan of what is its role and +</I>><i> who manages it is a sure recipe for ... misconceptions. +</I> +i would like to set it as the main place where to discuss new ideas and +proposals to implement in the next releases... i think it should be: +- all-times-long website +- full feature (negative votes, many maintainers and many release-targets) +- basis point to create new development specs +- responsabilities (ideas assigned and so on) + +><i> +</I>><i> > 5) rethinking of artwork (i don't like it at all, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Liking is not an argument. The question with artwork is first: what +</I>><i> purpose/message does it serve? Does it fit or not, and why? Then, do +</I>><i> we have the full chain of resources to implement it (creation, +</I>><i> integration, updates)? +</I> +i explained in various places why i don't like it, i resume my reasons: +- not original +- too dark +- artwork pieces are too similar each other + +><i> +</I>><i> > this should be also a work of the marketing team) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If we set up an artwork/designers team, there's a good reason for it. +</I>><i> Collaboration is the keyword. +</I> +ok, but i've written my reasons in artwork ML but no one listened me... +><i> +</I>><i> > and the role of marketing team beside dev team. (we can +</I>><i> > force dev team to implement new features? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can't - this is a volunteer project. Although you can design, +</I>><i> explain, advocate features and find/gather/help devs to implement +</I>><i> them. +</I> + +so what are the goals of the brainstorming session if no one is forced to work +on them? can we have at least a sort of promise of developers who want to +listen to the marketing key points we chose to improve the distro? otherwise +this project will not ever raise in linux market but it will remain only a +ANOTHER-ONE fork with no direction... if we chose as a target "newbies" and we +think they do need a short guide shortly after the installation, but no one +will implement (as it was for mandriva), what is our role other than giving +proposals to others and preparing release notes? this is not a marketing team, +you're wrong. this is a "comunication team", that is completely different +><i> +</I>><i> > which role do we have?) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As for giving strong directions, this is to the Council/Board to decide. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On this part (deciding on the project's directions and implementations +</I>><i> in other teams), the marketing team role is, at most, to provide +</I>><i> elements, test/proof them - and if you get a go from the Council, +</I>><i> advocate them, spread and help others spread them (in- and outside of +</I>><i> the project). +</I> +this is what we already did in mandriva, without no results... my ideas are on +dev specs since years but they've never been implemented. so, why have i to +lost my time proposing stuff that no one will listen to it? it' clear that +developers have completely different attitude towards new features, we can +trust only in them, but there should be a respective trust among marketing- +team /dev-team unless the project future can be summarize in a word: +ABANDONED. + +><i> +</I>><i> Cheers! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Romain +</I> +cheers, +Marcello +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000403.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000407.html">[Mageia-marketing] It's time to think about Mageia 2 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#405">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#405">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#405">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#405">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">More information about the Mageia-marketing +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |