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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+ <I>Tue Jan 25 02:34:11 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>2011/1/25 Bradley D. Thornton &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Bradley at northtech.us</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well to finalize this consolodation we'll either need a commitment from
+</I>&gt;<i> *tux99* to continue to provide forum services for our marcom lists or
+</I>&gt;<i> we'll need to implement a new forum that is integrated w/the marcom
+</I>&gt;<i> email lists.
+</I>
+If we will have such a gateway it will be for all mailing lists, not
+just the marcom list.
+
+&gt;<i> Oh, so it's never been integrated w/a forum&lt;==&gt;list gateway?
+</I>&gt;<i> That would expalain why I don't see any messages from the list :)
+</I>
+As you can see all other lists are up-to-date, only marketing and
+artwork are not. I don't know why, I think you have to ask tux99. I
+don't know his activities at the moment.
+
+&gt;<i> That's not what I was referring to. Most forum software, when you
+</I>&gt;<i> implement an email list gateway, requires you to register in the forums
+</I>&gt;<i> with the same email address (This FudForum implementation is no
+</I>&gt;<i> different, as per the instructions there) that you are subscribed to the
+</I>&gt;<i> email list(s) with.
+</I>
+This gateway we are talking about is not a Mageia activity, as I said.
+The mailing list system is a Mageia activity. The relation between
+them was made by tux99, not by Mageia sysadmin group. So I can't say
+anything about that.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> As you can see all these lists are platforms of contributors. The
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> forum will be mostly for userland but as we have seen at Mandriva we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> need a bridge between these entities.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure I understand what you mean by, &quot;...these lists are
+</I>&gt;<i> platforms of contributors.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't see that. From what I see, there is only one Mailman Listserver,
+</I>&gt;<i> located at <A HREF="http://mageia.org/mailman/listinfo,">http://mageia.org/mailman/listinfo,</A> and checking the RFC
+</I>&gt;<i> headers from mails I'm receiving from various lists I'm subscribed to
+</I>&gt;<i> there reveals (certainly appears) that it is a single instance of a
+</I>&gt;<i> Mailman listerver installed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All the (various) list mailings I'm receiving are coming from the same
+</I>&gt;<i> MX severs.
+</I>
+Yes, right. I don't understand how this is related with what I wrote.
+I wanted to express that the maling lists are the communication
+platforms of the contributors of Mageia, the sysadmin team, the
+marketing and communication teams, the artwork team, etc. and the
+general -discuss list for all. As it looks by now everybody is ok with
+this setup.
+
+Forums will be implemented as well (on forums.mageia.org), it will
+possibly turn out that they will mostly be used by users of Mageia to
+find support and get together. This is the usual way. So we will need
+such a gateway to the mailing lists, so that forum users are able to
+follow mailing list discussions and we will not have the same split
+between the 2 worlds as at Mandriva.
+
+&gt;<i> wrt both PhpBB and FudForum, I've only had to apply a security patch
+</I>&gt;<i> twice for FudForum, and more than 15 patches or upgrades to PhpBB &#160;over
+</I>&gt;<i> the span of the last decade or so.
+</I>
+This is a continuous discussion among all the related people: which is
+a better system, one that finds many weak points and fixes them
+immediately or one that finds few weak points and fixes them
+occasionally :)
+
+&gt;<i> But, if the existing one's are going to be a pain to administer, or are
+</I>&gt;<i> too hard for n00bs to find, then I would suggest we implement this with
+</I>&gt;<i> our existing hosting solutions on the mageia.org domain.
+</I>
+How problematic a forum is to administer is the administrator's task
+to find out. They will administer forums.mageia.org.
+How easily people will find the forum is the webteam's task. It has to
+be found with one click from the place where visitors of Mageia start
+- the portal page of the Mageia website. Any place in the wiki would
+be not a good idea.
+
+But I am not sure if we are talking about the same issues here.
+
+--
+wobo
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