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+ <H1>[Mageia-marketing] Meeting?</H1>
+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+ <I>Sat Jan 8 19:14:02 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 22:22, Graham Lauder &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">yorick_ at openoffice.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On the upside my physio recommended kneading dough as a good therapuetic
+</I>&gt;<i> exercise so I've become a dab hand at making bread, this week I'm moving on to
+</I>&gt;<i> pizza dough.
+</I>
+Yum.
+
+&gt;<i> The good news is that all of the above has been doing the deed and I'm well on
+</I>&gt;<i> the way to full recovery. &#160;I'm now &quot;allowed&quot; three 30 minute stretches at the
+</I>&gt;<i> keyboard per day, a vast improvement since before xmas and I should be back to
+</I>&gt;<i> full function within a week or two and I shall start annoying everyone again.
+</I>
+:<i>) Nice to hear from you again!
+</I>
+
+On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 16:13, Patricia Fraser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;1. I guess there's not much activity in the marketing area; since
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; several weeks; what's your diagnostic about that?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it might be a good time to revisit what the project as a
+</I>&gt;<i> whole (founders, devels, everyone) wants from its marketing team -
+</I>&gt;<i> seems like we had a bit of divergence there, and it would be good to
+</I>&gt;<i> bring that back together.
+</I>
+Yes. Actually, it seems that my refocus points [1] made things stop
+somehow? We slipped out of schedule (first alpha is for this month and
+we're headed for FOSDEM) and several events made things slower. The
+divergence is still in some heads I guess and it needs to be precised.
+
+I can't speak for other founders; my point of view is that the
+desirable marketing design effort in Mageia is not to target what
+exists but in suggesting new stuff (products, technology, use-cases)
+from what we can achieve already. That's easier said than done of
+course. And that's not predictable at all. That's the point: working
+for a Linux distribution project community, but to prepare a way for
+something else/more than the desktop/laptop/tablet/server OS thing.
+
+So that requires first to see/understand what we can achieve as a
+community. So that needs to focus first on contributors as they will
+make the project go a long way, or not. Who are they? What do they do?
+Why? What for? Who knows about that and who should be told about it?
+[2]
+
+As long as we did not ship of very first stable release, we can not
+aim to specific (known or unknown) use cases (reminding a discussion
+about this a few months ago).
+
+Said more shortly, if we are to release Mageia 1 around April/May,
+that will be a pretty generic LInux distribution platofmr, some more
+specific packaging/release could be discussed then, but not
+(officially) released before Mageia 2 (or it would be community
+derivatives, but this could precisely to be coordinated in some way so
+it gets full support later).
+
+[1] second/last part of
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20101018/002460.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-discuss/20101018/002460.html</A>
+
+[2] that's a very shared concern with the communication team tasks, so
+that's the reason of my point below, actually. Having the two teams
+mix and work together to forge the communication strategy of the
+project, toward itself first, toward outside followers, and then, when
+we ship something, to its potential users.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;2. shall we hold an IRC meeting next week (if possible between
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 9:00 and 15:00 UTC) on irc.freenode.net/#mageia-marcom to:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Fine for me - any day is ok. Is this also a good time for Graham
+</I>&gt;<i> or any other Antipodeans?
+</I>
+Say, Thursday between 9:00 and 17:00 UTC (10 and 18 Paris time). I
+know Graham is more available early in the morning and some others are
+more available at the end of the day. Or we may hold two meetings.
+
+Please update your line here:
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=marketing#preferred_meeting_time</A> so
+we get an idea of everyone's availability. That will help to set a
+time where most people can be there, or to know how to split in two
+meetings if needed.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;3. we did not yet launch the communication team (willing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; contributors here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=communication</A> ); I wonder if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; we wouldn't better merge both teams (marketing+communication) to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; have those two especially in sync (as well as with an effort to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; sync with artwork &amp; some web devs);
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think marketing and communication belong together! let's go for it.
+</I>
+I believe it could help point 1. too, leaving some time to work on the
+project self-representation and communication to the outside (working
+on this effort then) and then looking forward on the prospective
+marketing side of things (by that, I mean, call to projects,
+prototypes, metrics usage, design, etc.).
+
+But that's really up to you as a team (and communication volunteers I
+will mail) to say if it's a good plan or not. That's an open point.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;4. who will be at FOSDEM in February? (5-6, in Brussels)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wish. Next one I'll be better organised - but, what do people need
+</I>&gt;<i> to have ready, that we can/should be doing? And, can we maybe work up
+</I>&gt;<i> a calendar of events, so we can be ready for them?
+</I>
+We will have some stickers and t-shirts already (Damien and Caroline
+are working on this). Misc is planning a talk about the fork, its
+organisation and some issues we faced. And we expect to hold a lot of
+bee^informal meetings.
+
+As for a calendar, Oliver Burger is working on checking the technical
+solution and we should have a running one in the next few weeks. In
+the meantime, a rough calendar of events (can be updated) is available
+from <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=roadmap</A> .
+
+Cheers!
+
+Romain
+</PRE>
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