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Thornton</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-marketing%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-marketing%5D%20Plan%20-%20stuff%20to%20do%20pre%20Beta%201%20release&In-Reply-To=%3C4D9C1832.3070502%40NorthTech.US%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release">Bradley at NorthTech.US + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Apr 6 09:37:22 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000246.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000240.html">[Mageia-marketing] Plan - stuff to do pre Beta 1 release +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#232">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#232">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#232">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#232">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- +Hash: RIPEMD160 + + + +On 04/05/2011 10:55 AM, Anne nicolas wrote: +><i> 2011/4/5 Patricia Fraser <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">trish at thefrasers.org</A>>: +</I> +>><i> +</I>>><i> I'm feeling a bit confused here. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Is there actually anything wanted from the marcomm team of 1, or not? +</I> +Well Trish, I'm thinking that perhaps we've gotten out of the whole a +little lethargically, waiting for other things to happen we may have +felt was necessary. + +On the develpment side, it's not so unlike and automatic process where +each member knows what needs to be done and has been doing pretty much +the same thing in packaging and testing and other typical software +related functions. + +Yet what I've seen here from our team is something amidst the bootsrap +process of the Mageia council, and other 'departmental' aspects of +bringing the entity to life as a product or service. + +As someone coming primarily from the technical side of things, I can say +that if neccessary, we just put our heads down and plow through what +needs to be done, in order to make the tool work. + +We don't have to have a name for what we're doing, or a palatable face, +since in the purest sense, functionality and utility is truely all that +is required. + +But that doesn't make for the brand, or name recognition in the public +sector (regardless of how techie or not the audience is). + +It's really great that you stepped over to take the chair for the marcom +team now that the Council is actually seated, and to be fair, a nod (as +you suggest via the semination across the organization of marketiing +material) is required from *somewhere* on our part - if for no other +reason that to NOT get things wrong, like the details or the message. + +Until now, and the point where you offered to represent Marcom in the +Council meetings, I think we were effectively hamstringed in our ability +to move forward - unless it was unilaterally. Something we didn't want +to do, and rightfully so. + +>><i> +</I>>><i> If not, then is there a reason to have the team at all? +</I> +That depends on whether we want a message to effectively permeate the +industry. My Guess is yes, but expect to be marginalized and discounted + at every turn of events. + +Instead of coming up with the message, in a FOSS tech driven project, as +opposed to a corporate beaurocratic enterprise, the pace of development +and innovation usually far exceeds the pace at which Marketing can +envision, develop, brand, and deliver OUR contribution, so in light of a +completely different development ethic and control structure on the tech +side, our mission might be (instead of forming the message and brand), +to define what the tech side has produced, and remain proactive enough +to guess where it's all going. + +In the FOSS community, R&D immediately precedes release. Not like +corporate enterprise where releases can be held until the entire package +can be released as a cohesive web. + +It's no one's fault, it's just a different paradigm we're going to have +to embrace, and have our pencils and erasers handy at every turn. + +><i> +</I>><i> My point of view for now :) : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We should prepare all process for beta2 and next releases. Time is a +</I>><i> bit short for beta1. It took time to release isos and on my side I'm +</I>><i> just finalizing things. What I suggest is formalize this for beta2. +</I>><i> WDYT ? +</I>><i> +</I> +Well Anne, since you asked, and in light of what I related as my +observations above, I would recommend that we give Patricia our full +support going forward with our position of relevance there, and also to +just forget about beta2 and focus on Mageia 1 RC1 or Stable - it is the + second week of April, and there is quite a lot still on the plate to +deliver our complete package for Mageia 1 in June. + +In the meantime, Patricia will be able to engage in the process of +enforcing a place of relevance for Marcom in the Mageia Universe :) + +>><i> +</I>>><i> Cheers... +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> -- +</I>>><i> Trish Fraser, JD9R RQ2D +</I>>><i> 52.4161N,16.9303E +</I>>><i> di apr 5 19:13:27 CEST 2011 +</I>>><i> GNU/Linux 1997-2010 #283226 counter.li.org +</I>>><i> andromeda up 0 hour(s), 53 min. +</I>>><i> kernel 2.6.33.7-desktop-2mnb +</I>>><i> -- +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> _______________________________________________ +</I>>><i> Mageia-marketing mailing list +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">Mageia-marketing at mageia.org</A> +</I>>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-marketing</A> +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +- -- +Bradley D. 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