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+ <B>Jan Ciger</B>
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+ <I>Thu Feb 14 18:26:13 CET 2013</I>
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+<PRE>On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Morgan Leijstr&#246;m &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">fri at tribun.eu</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> With the risk of sounding grumpy i suggest to hammer your payment provider
+</I>&gt;<i> to
+</I>&gt;<i> fix their bug.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think no solution that include scanning is less time consuming than proof
+</I>&gt;<i> read manually typed number.
+</I>&gt;<i> Besises, you need to proof read the scan anyway ;)
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+Actually, there are solutions that are virtually error-proof. However, that
+assumes that the banks and the issuers of the bills work together. I have
+lived for several years in Switzerland and there the payment slips are
+completely standardized, in machine readable form. Every bill you get is
+using one of these. I think Juergen is talking about those, considering he
+is in Geneva. The Swiss slips have a long code on them that indicates who
+is recipient of the payment, the sum, the identification of the bill (e.g.
+a facture number or month number if it is something like rent) and a
+checksum. So the chance that the machine would accept an incorrect code is
+virtually nil.
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+Swiss banks offer either a portable reader that you can use with
+internetbanking or there are self-service kiosks in the branches where you
+can pay these by simply scanning them in the machine. Unless the slip was
+dirty or excessively wrinkled, I have never had a single issue in the 4
+years I lived there, the reading and the checks against your account are
+very robust. It was so convenient that I have often walked to the UBS
+branch office on the campus after work to use the kiosk rather then be
+bothered with retyping at home (I didn't have the portable scanner). You
+log into the machine with your credit card (or account card), scan all the
+slips, click approve, go home. In Juergen's place I would go and talk to
+the bank - I am sure they offer this sort of slip scanner and e.g. UBS (one
+of the major Swiss banks) has even a cellphone app for it.
+
+However, if you want to do this as something general, where the slips
+aren't standard (e.g. here in France) or the fields are not in standard
+places - that is pretty much hopeless. Doublechecking the scans and then
+somehow integrating it into the internetbanking would be really hard and
+fragile thing to do. You are better off with setting up automatic debit
+authorizations and not bothering with slips in that case.
+
+Regards,
+
+J.
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