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I get no error +messages, and when I look into the account manager, they are stuck with +the "connecting" status. + +Could you help me please? + +Yours sincerely, + +Skiper. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007758.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7757">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7757">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7757">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7757">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007758.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007758.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ea190c250 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007758.html @@ -0,0 +1,87 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Need%20help%20recovering%20execute%20permission%20on%20local%0A%09files&In-Reply-To=%3C4FD5C98A.6000606%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007757.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007759.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files</H1> + <B>Len Lawrence</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Need%20help%20recovering%20execute%20permission%20on%20local%0A%09files&In-Reply-To=%3C4FD5C98A.6000606%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files">tarazed25 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jun 11 12:33:46 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007757.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE unified chat system does not work for me +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7758">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7758">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7758">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7758">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>After a warm reboot this morning I found that I no longer had the +ability to run my own commands even though the permissions are correct +and ownership is lcl (uid=500). User system commands are OK so +running a script via ruby for instance works but trying to execute the +script by itself fails even though it is fully executable. This +applies to all my local bin commands. Command aliases however do work +as long as they do not involve running any of my bin files. + +Even root cannot execute these bin commands; same message "Permission +denied". + +In addition the system has switched me to autologin. Trying to run +mcc I was told it cannot be run in console mode (??). If I login as +su mcc comes up in console mode, which I am not inclined to use. + +The hostname on this machine is belexeuli; this does not appear in +the command prompt: [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lcl at localhost</A> ~]$ + +After su: [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at belexeuli</A> lcl]# + +This may all have something to do with my adding groups and changing +group ids yesterday in my attempts to implement a viable sudoers +command. It worked and I could log out and in again without any +problems. I even managed a reboot without trouble but today is +another story. + +I suspect that solving these multiple problems is beyond my technical +skill even with help so a full reinstall is probably the best bet. +However I will await any comments. + +Len +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007757.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE unified chat system does not work for me +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7758">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7758">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7758">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7758">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007759.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007759.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c32455fac --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007759.html @@ -0,0 +1,110 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Need%20help%20recovering%20execute%20permission%20on%0A%20local%20files&In-Reply-To=%3C20120611212809.7036654c%40dougshost.douglaidlaw.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007758.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007760.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files</H1> + <B>Doug Laidlaw</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Need%20help%20recovering%20execute%20permission%20on%0A%20local%20files&In-Reply-To=%3C20120611212809.7036654c%40dougshost.douglaidlaw.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files">laidlaws at hotkey.net.au + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jun 11 13:28:09 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007758.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7759">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7759">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7759">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7759">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:33:46 +0100 +Len Lawrence <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarazed25 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> After a warm reboot this morning I found that I no longer had the +</I>><i> ability to run my own commands even though the permissions are correct +</I>><i> and ownership is lcl (uid=500). User system commands are OK so +</I>><i> running a script via ruby for instance works but trying to execute the +</I>><i> script by itself fails even though it is fully executable. This +</I>><i> applies to all my local bin commands. Command aliases however do work +</I>><i> as long as they do not involve running any of my bin files. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Even root cannot execute these bin commands; same message "Permission +</I>><i> denied". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In addition the system has switched me to autologin. Trying to run +</I>><i> mcc I was told it cannot be run in console mode (??). If I login as +</I>><i> su mcc comes up in console mode, which I am not inclined to use. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The hostname on this machine is belexeuli; this does not appear in +</I>><i> the command prompt: [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lcl at localhost</A> ~]$ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> After su: [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at belexeuli</A> lcl]# +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This may all have something to do with my adding groups and changing +</I>><i> group ids yesterday in my attempts to implement a viable sudoers +</I>><i> command. It worked and I could log out and in again without any +</I>><i> problems. I even managed a reboot without trouble but today is +</I>><i> another story. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I suspect that solving these multiple problems is beyond my technical +</I>><i> skill even with help so a full reinstall is probably the best bet. +</I>><i> However I will await any comments. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Len +</I>><i> +</I>You say that the permissions are correct, but do they include execute +permissions? The prompt difference may be simply that root's prompt is +no longer the same as a user's prompt. It is set by a config file for +each user. You can see the code for it by typing "echo $PS1" In my +case, that gives "[\u@\h \W]\$" The \h puts in the hostname. You can +change it for the current session by typing at the user prompt: + + PS1="[\u@\h \W]\$" + +You can make that permanent by putting it in your .bash_profile, where +it should override the other at your next login, but really, it is only +a workaround. + +With so many issues, I would do a full reinstall, but more knowledgeable +people tell me it is the easy way out. + +HTH, + +Doug. +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007758.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7759">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7759">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7759">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7759">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007760.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007760.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..14cd5a5f9 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007760.html @@ -0,0 +1,143 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Need%20help%20recovering%20execute%20permission%20on%0A%20local%20files&In-Reply-To=%3C4FD5E4D1.9060702%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007759.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007761.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files</H1> + <B>Len Lawrence</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Need%20help%20recovering%20execute%20permission%20on%0A%20local%20files&In-Reply-To=%3C4FD5E4D1.9060702%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files">tarazed25 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jun 11 14:30:09 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7760">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7760">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7760">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7760">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 11/06/12 12:28, Doug Laidlaw wrote: +><i> On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:33:46 +0100 +</I>><i> Len Lawrence<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarazed25 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> After a warm reboot this morning I found that I no longer had the +</I>>><i> ability to run my own commands even though the permissions are correct +</I>>><i> and ownership is lcl (uid=500). User system commands are OK so +</I>>><i> running a script via ruby for instance works but trying to execute the +</I>>><i> script by itself fails even though it is fully executable. This +</I>>><i> applies to all my local bin commands. Command aliases however do work +</I>>><i> as long as they do not involve running any of my bin files. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Even root cannot execute these bin commands; same message "Permission +</I>>><i> denied". +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> In addition the system has switched me to autologin. Trying to run +</I>>><i> mcc I was told it cannot be run in console mode (??). If I login as +</I>>><i> su mcc comes up in console mode, which I am not inclined to use. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The hostname on this machine is belexeuli; this does not appear in +</I>>><i> the command prompt: [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lcl at localhost</A> ~]$ +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> After su: [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at belexeuli</A> lcl]# +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This may all have something to do with my adding groups and changing +</I>>><i> group ids yesterday in my attempts to implement a viable sudoers +</I>>><i> command. It worked and I could log out and in again without any +</I>>><i> problems. I even managed a reboot without trouble but today is +</I>>><i> another story. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I suspect that solving these multiple problems is beyond my technical +</I>>><i> skill even with help so a full reinstall is probably the best bet. +</I>>><i> However I will await any comments. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Len +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> You say that the permissions are correct, but do they include execute +</I>><i> permissions? The prompt difference may be simply that root's prompt is +</I>><i> no longer the same as a user's prompt. It is set by a config file for +</I>><i> each user. You can see the code for it by typing "echo $PS1" In my +</I>><i> case, that gives "[\u@\h \W]\$" The \h puts in the hostname. You can +</I>><i> change it for the current session by typing at the user prompt: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> PS1="[\u@\h \W]\$" +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can make that permanent by putting it in your .bash_profile, where +</I>><i> it should override the other at your next login, but really, it is only +</I>><i> a workaround. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> With so many issues, I would do a full reinstall, but more knowledgeable +</I>><i> people tell me it is the easy way out. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> HTH, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Doug. +</I>Yes, all the commands have execute permission. I have been using my +local bin directory for years and I have never had execute refused so +this must reflect some deep system level screwup relating to lcl and +maybe something in pam.d. That is unknown country for me. +Until yesterday there was no lcl group, only user lcl. The group for +lcl was live, which I have +removed from my group list. live was my primary group, now it is lcl +which I added yesterday. Ownership of my files is now lcl:lcl and in +/home/lcl/bin the permissions are nearly all 755. +Note that I can chmod -x <file> and chmod +x <file> but that does not +change anything. + +I notice that home now contains a "live" directory: /home/live, +ownership lcl:lcl, containing tmp and nothing else. Now that is weird. + +The difference in the root and user prompts is probably related to the +fact that root cannot access the user's X display. I have seen that +sort of thing before when the two have been using different hostnames. +I think that root is now looking at belexeuli:0 whereas the user has for +some reason reverted to localhost:0. Attempts at using the gui by root +throw up protocol errors. + +As you say, a reinstall looks like the best way out. More knowledgeable +people would probably know just where to look for the root of the +problem(s) but even after 21 years experience of Unix and Linux I know +next to nothing about access and security policies. + +Cheers + +Len + + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7760">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7760">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7760">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7760">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007761.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007761.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..17097cdb3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007761.html @@ -0,0 +1,160 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Need%20help%20recovering%20execute%20permission%20on%0A%09local%20files&In-Reply-To=%3CCAHDxzRdU92%2B44ixhKUFPDPeRPJ7aq9q0p3fSwv%2BynxmAJduftQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007760.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007762.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files</H1> + <B>Alejandro López</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Need%20help%20recovering%20execute%20permission%20on%0A%09local%20files&In-Reply-To=%3CCAHDxzRdU92%2B44ixhKUFPDPeRPJ7aq9q0p3fSwv%2BynxmAJduftQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files">listas.apl at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jun 11 14:58:41 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7761">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7761">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7761">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7761">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Len Lawrence <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarazed25 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> On 11/06/12 12:28, Doug Laidlaw wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:33:46 +0100 +</I>>><i> Len Lawrence<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarazed25 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> After a warm reboot this morning I found that I no longer had the +</I>>>><i> ability to run my own commands even though the permissions are correct +</I>>>><i> and ownership is lcl (uid=500). User system commands are OK so +</I>>>><i> running a script via ruby for instance works but trying to execute the +</I>>>><i> script by itself fails even though it is fully executable. This +</I>>>><i> applies to all my local bin commands. Command aliases however do work +</I>>>><i> as long as they do not involve running any of my bin files. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Even root cannot execute these bin commands; same message "Permission +</I>>>><i> denied". +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> In addition the system has switched me to autologin. Trying to run +</I>>>><i> mcc I was told it cannot be run in console mode (??). If I login as +</I>>>><i> su mcc comes up in console mode, which I am not inclined to use. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> The hostname on this machine is belexeuli; this does not appear in +</I>>>><i> the command prompt: [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lcl at localhost</A> ~]$ +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> After su: [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at belexeuli</A> lcl]# +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> This may all have something to do with my adding groups and changing +</I>>>><i> group ids yesterday in my attempts to implement a viable sudoers +</I>>>><i> command. It worked and I could log out and in again without any +</I>>>><i> problems. I even managed a reboot without trouble but today is +</I>>>><i> another story. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I suspect that solving these multiple problems is beyond my technical +</I>>>><i> skill even with help so a full reinstall is probably the best bet. +</I>>>><i> However I will await any comments. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Len +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> You say that the permissions are correct, but do they include execute +</I>>><i> permissions? The prompt difference may be simply that root's prompt is +</I>>><i> no longer the same as a user's prompt. It is set by a config file for +</I>>><i> each user. You can see the code for it by typing "echo $PS1" In my +</I>>><i> case, that gives "[\u@\h \W]\$" The \h puts in the hostname. You can +</I>>><i> change it for the current session by typing at the user prompt: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> PS1="[\u@\h \W]\$" +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> You can make that permanent by putting it in your .bash_profile, where +</I>>><i> it should override the other at your next login, but really, it is only +</I>>><i> a workaround. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> With so many issues, I would do a full reinstall, but more knowledgeable +</I>>><i> people tell me it is the easy way out. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> HTH, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Doug. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> Yes, all the commands have execute permission. I have been using my local +</I>><i> bin directory for years and I have never had execute refused so this must +</I>><i> reflect some deep system level screwup relating to lcl and maybe something +</I>><i> in pam.d. That is unknown country for me. +</I>><i> Until yesterday there was no lcl group, only user lcl. The group for lcl +</I>><i> was live, which I have +</I>><i> removed from my group list. live was my primary group, now it is lcl +</I>><i> which I added yesterday. Ownership of my files is now lcl:lcl and in +</I>><i> /home/lcl/bin the permissions are nearly all 755. +</I>><i> Note that I can chmod -x <file> and chmod +x <file> but that does not +</I>><i> change anything. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I notice that home now contains a "live" directory: /home/live, ownership +</I>><i> lcl:lcl, containing tmp and nothing else. Now that is weird. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The difference in the root and user prompts is probably related to the +</I>><i> fact that root cannot access the user's X display. I have seen that sort +</I>><i> of thing before when the two have been using different hostnames. I think +</I>><i> that root is now looking at belexeuli:0 whereas the user has for some +</I>><i> reason reverted to localhost:0. Attempts at using the gui by root throw up +</I>><i> protocol errors. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As you say, a reinstall looks like the best way out. More knowledgeable +</I>><i> people would probably know just where to look for the root of the +</I>><i> problem(s) but even after 21 years experience of Unix and Linux I know next +</I>><i> to nothing about access and security policies. +</I>><i> +</I> + +Maybe it was somehow mounted with the -noexec flag? + +Alejandro. + + + +><i> +</I>><i> Cheers +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Len +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120611/f950e8a6/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7761">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7761">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7761">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7761">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007762.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007762.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..36103b74e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007762.html @@ -0,0 +1,208 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Need%20help%20recovering%20execute%20permission%20on%0A%20local%20files&In-Reply-To=%3C4FD60090.2030808%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007761.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007763.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files</H1> + <B>Len Lawrence</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Need%20help%20recovering%20execute%20permission%20on%0A%20local%20files&In-Reply-To=%3C4FD60090.2030808%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files">tarazed25 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jun 11 16:28:32 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7762">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7762">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7762">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7762">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 11/06/12 13:58, Alejandro López wrote: +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Len Lawrence <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarazed25 at gmail.com</A> +</I>><i> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarazed25 at gmail.com</A>>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On 11/06/12 12:28, Doug Laidlaw wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:33:46 +0100 +</I>><i> Len Lawrence<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarazed25 at gmail.com</A> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarazed25 at gmail.com</A>>> +</I>><i> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> After a warm reboot this morning I found that I no longer +</I>><i> had the +</I>><i> ability to run my own commands even though the permissions +</I>><i> are correct +</I>><i> and ownership is lcl (uid=500). User system commands are +</I>><i> OK so +</I>><i> running a script via ruby for instance works but trying to +</I>><i> execute the +</I>><i> script by itself fails even though it is fully executable. +</I>><i> This +</I>><i> applies to all my local bin commands. Command aliases +</I>><i> however do work +</I>><i> as long as they do not involve running any of my bin files. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Even root cannot execute these bin commands; same message +</I>><i> "Permission +</I>><i> denied". +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In addition the system has switched me to autologin. +</I>><i> Trying to run +</I>><i> mcc I was told it cannot be run in console mode (??). If +</I>><i> I login as +</I>><i> su mcc comes up in console mode, which I am not inclined +</I>><i> to use. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The hostname on this machine is belexeuli; this does not +</I>><i> appear in +</I>><i> the command prompt: [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lcl at localhost</A> ~]$ +</I>><i> +</I>><i> After su: [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at belexeuli</A> lcl]# +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This may all have something to do with my adding groups +</I>><i> and changing +</I>><i> group ids yesterday in my attempts to implement a viable +</I>><i> sudoers +</I>><i> command. It worked and I could log out and in again +</I>><i> without any +</I>><i> problems. I even managed a reboot without trouble but +</I>><i> today is +</I>><i> another story. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I suspect that solving these multiple problems is beyond +</I>><i> my technical +</I>><i> skill even with help so a full reinstall is probably the +</I>><i> best bet. +</I>><i> However I will await any comments. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Len +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You say that the permissions are correct, but do they include +</I>><i> execute +</I>><i> permissions? The prompt difference may be simply that root's +</I>><i> prompt is +</I>><i> no longer the same as a user's prompt. It is set by a config +</I>><i> file for +</I>><i> each user. You can see the code for it by typing "echo $PS1" +</I>><i> In my +</I>><i> case, that gives "[\u@\h \W]\$" The \h puts in the hostname. +</I>><i> You can +</I>><i> change it for the current session by typing at the user prompt: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> PS1="[\u@\h \W]\$" +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can make that permanent by putting it in your +</I>><i> .bash_profile, where +</I>><i> it should override the other at your next login, but really, +</I>><i> it is only +</I>><i> a workaround. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> With so many issues, I would do a full reinstall, but more +</I>><i> knowledgeable +</I>><i> people tell me it is the easy way out. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> HTH, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Doug. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes, all the commands have execute permission. I have been using +</I>><i> my local bin directory for years and I have never had execute +</I>><i> refused so this must reflect some deep system level screwup +</I>><i> relating to lcl and maybe something in pam.d. That is unknown +</I>><i> country for me. +</I>><i> Until yesterday there was no lcl group, only user lcl. The group +</I>><i> for lcl was live, which I have +</I>><i> removed from my group list. live was my primary group, now it is +</I>><i> lcl which I added yesterday. Ownership of my files is now lcl:lcl +</I>><i> and in /home/lcl/bin the permissions are nearly all 755. +</I>><i> Note that I can chmod -x <file> and chmod +x <file> but that does +</I>><i> not change anything. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I notice that home now contains a "live" directory: /home/live, +</I>><i> ownership lcl:lcl, containing tmp and nothing else. Now that is +</I>><i> weird. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The difference in the root and user prompts is probably related to +</I>><i> the fact that root cannot access the user's X display. I have +</I>><i> seen that sort of thing before when the two have been using +</I>><i> different hostnames. I think that root is now looking at +</I>><i> belexeuli:0 whereas the user has for some reason reverted to +</I>><i> localhost:0. Attempts at using the gui by root throw up protocol +</I>><i> errors. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As you say, a reinstall looks like the best way out. More +</I>><i> knowledgeable people would probably know just where to look for +</I>><i> the root of the problem(s) but even after 21 years experience of +</I>><i> Unix and Linux I know next to nothing about access and security +</I>><i> policies. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe it was somehow mounted with the -noexec flag? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Alejandro. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>mtab contains this entry: + +/dev/sda6 /home ext4 +rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0 + +fstab had: +# Entry for /dev/sda6 : +UUID=341956e4-fddb-45a6-a191-4c912328ec7a /home ext4 user,defaults 1 2 +none /proc proc defaults 0 0 + +I have removed the "user," because it does not tally with my other mga2 +workstation. +That does not have noexec against /home. + +About to reboot. + +Thanks for the pointer. + + + + + +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120611/d4771dee/attachment-0001.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7762">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7762">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7762">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7762">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007763.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007763.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..03ac8ab0b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007763.html @@ -0,0 +1,132 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Need%20help%20recovering%20execute%20permission%20on%0A%09local%20files&In-Reply-To=%3CCALg9qdEeCFqzJF%3DnXF8gpRgfD1T5GAvPL3FDiCUCn2HGRkRHBw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007762.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007764.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files</H1> + <B>Len Lawrence</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Need%20help%20recovering%20execute%20permission%20on%0A%09local%20files&In-Reply-To=%3CCALg9qdEeCFqzJF%3DnXF8gpRgfD1T5GAvPL3FDiCUCn2HGRkRHBw%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files">tarazed25 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jun 11 16:45:32 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7763">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7763">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7763">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7763">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 3:28 PM, Len Lawrence <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarazed25 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> On 11/06/12 13:58, Alejandro López wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Len Lawrence <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarazed25 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> On 11/06/12 12:28, Doug Laidlaw wrote: +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> You say that the permissions are correct, but do they include execute +</I>>>><i> permissions? The prompt difference may be simply that root's prompt is +</I>>>><i> no longer the same as a user's prompt. It is set by a config file for +</I>>>><i> each user. You can see the code for it by typing "echo $PS1" In my +</I>>>><i> case, that gives "[\u@\h \W]\$" The \h puts in the hostname. You can +</I>>>><i> change it for the current session by typing at the user prompt: +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> PS1="[\u@\h \W]\$" +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> You can make that permanent by putting it in your .bash_profile, where +</I>>>><i> it should override the other at your next login, but really, it is only +</I>>>><i> a workaround. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> With so many issues, I would do a full reinstall, but more knowledgeable +</I>>>><i> people tell me it is the easy way out. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> HTH, +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Doug. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Yes, all the commands have execute permission. I have been using my +</I>>><i> local bin directory for years and I have never +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> snipped +</I> +><i> As you say, a reinstall looks like the best way out. More knowledgeable +</I>>><i> people would probably know just where to look for the root of the +</I>>><i> problem(s) but even after 21 years experience of Unix and Linux I know next +</I>>><i> to nothing about access and security policies. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Maybe it was somehow mounted with the -noexec flag? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Alejandro. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> mtab contains this entry: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> /dev/sda6 /home ext4 +</I>><i> rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> fstab had: +</I>><i> # Entry for /dev/sda6 : +</I>><i> UUID=341956e4-fddb-45a6-a191-4c912328ec7a /home ext4 user,defaults 1 2 +</I>><i> none /proc proc defaults 0 0 +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I have removed the "user," because it does not tally with my other mga2 +</I>><i> workstation. +</I>><i> That does not have noexec against /home. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> About to reboot. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Thanks for the pointer. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Back in business as far as local bin files are concerned and root and lcl +</I>quote belexeuli in the prompt. However, root cannot access the gui so +tools like mcc are inaccessible. I need to clobber autologin. Is there a +command line solution for that? I would guess that there is a file +somewhere in /etc with AUTOLOGIN=1. + +Len +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120611/a86aec05/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7763">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7763">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7763">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7763">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007764.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007764.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..60f2544a2 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007764.html @@ -0,0 +1,118 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Need%20help%20recovering%20execute%20permission%20on%0A%20local%20files&In-Reply-To=%3C4FD60681.8040206%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007763.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007794.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files</H1> + <B>Len Lawrence</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Need%20help%20recovering%20execute%20permission%20on%0A%20local%20files&In-Reply-To=%3C4FD60681.8040206%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files">tarazed25 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jun 11 16:53:53 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007794.html">[Mageia-discuss] Quality of Service +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7764">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7764">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7764">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7764">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 11/06/12 12:28, Doug Laidlaw wrote: +><i> On Mon, 11 Jun 2012 11:33:46 +0100 +</I>><i> Len Lawrence<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">tarazed25 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> After a warm reboot this morning I found that I no longer had the +</I>>><i> ability to run my own commands even though the permissions are correct +</I>>><i> and ownership is lcl (uid=500). User system commands are OK so +</I>>><i> running a script via ruby for instance works but trying to execute the +</I>>><i> script by itself fails even though it is fully executable. This +</I>>><i> applies to all my local bin commands. Command aliases however do work +</I>>><i> as long as they do not involve running any of my bin files. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Even root cannot execute these bin commands; same message "Permission +</I>>><i> denied". +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> In addition the system has switched me to autologin. Trying to run +</I>>><i> mcc I was told it cannot be run in console mode (??). If I login as +</I>>><i> su mcc comes up in console mode, which I am not inclined to use. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The hostname on this machine is belexeuli; this does not appear in +</I>>><i> the command prompt: [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">lcl at localhost</A> ~]$ +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> After su: [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">root at belexeuli</A> lcl]# +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> This may all have something to do with my adding groups and changing +</I>>><i> group ids yesterday in my attempts to implement a viable sudoers +</I>>><i> command. It worked and I could log out and in again without any +</I>>><i> problems. I even managed a reboot without trouble but today is +</I>>><i> another story. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I suspect that solving these multiple problems is beyond my technical +</I>>><i> skill even with help so a full reinstall is probably the best bet. +</I>>><i> However I will await any comments. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Len +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> You say that the permissions are correct, but do they include execute +</I>><i> permissions? The prompt difference may be simply that root's prompt is +</I>><i> no longer the same as a user's prompt. It is set by a config file for +</I>><i> each user. You can see the code for it by typing "echo $PS1" In my +</I>><i> case, that gives "[\u@\h \W]\$" The \h puts in the hostname. You can +</I>><i> change it for the current session by typing at the user prompt: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> PS1="[\u@\h \W]\$" +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You can make that permanent by putting it in your .bash_profile, where +</I>><i> it should override the other at your next login, but really, it is only +</I>><i> a workaround. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> With so many issues, I would do a full reinstall, but more knowledgeable +</I>><i> people tell me it is the easy way out. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> HTH, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Doug. +</I>Followup to my last message, out of sync. + +Logging out and in again solved the gui problem for root. No need to +reinstall then. + +Len + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007794.html">[Mageia-discuss] Quality of Service +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7764">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7764">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7764">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7764">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007794.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007794.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..30054accd --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007794.html @@ -0,0 +1,71 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Quality of Service + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Quality%20of%20Service&In-Reply-To=%3C201206111705.08263.cooker%40solbu.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007764.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007795.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Quality of Service</H1> + <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Quality%20of%20Service&In-Reply-To=%3C201206111705.08263.cooker%40solbu.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Quality of Service">cooker at solbu.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jun 11 17:05:04 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007795.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7794">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7794">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7794">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7794">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Friday 24 February 2012 13:41, Buchan Milne wrote: +><i> AFAIK, shorewall is fully capable of implementing QoS. +</I> +Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of using Mageia as the router? :-)= + +-- +Johnny A. 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Solbu</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailinglist%20woes%2C%20Old%20messages%20released&In-Reply-To=%3C201206111734.26453.cooker%40solbu.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released">cooker at solbu.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jun 11 17:34:23 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007794.html">[Mageia-discuss] Quality of Service +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007796.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7795">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7795">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7795">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7795">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>What's up with the malinglist today? All of a sudden I got some 25-30 mails which are old messages previously not being delivered. not to me at least. +I even managed to reply to one old message before I noticed it. Some of them are 6 months old. + +Anyone else seeing this? + +-- +Johnny A. 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Solbu wrote: +><i> What's up with the malinglist today? All of a sudden I got some 25-30 mails which are old messages previously not being delivered. not to me at least. +</I>><i> I even managed to reply to one old message before I noticed it. Some of them are 6 months old. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Anyone else seeing this? +</I>><i> +</I>Yes, it seems to be mostly -discuss, but I've gotten some -dev +remailings too. + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007800.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007801.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7797">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7797">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7797">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7797">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007798.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007798.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a2cc32c10 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007798.html @@ -0,0 +1,70 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailinglist%20woes%2C%20Old%20messages%20released&In-Reply-To=%3C21960310.U6OEhIgdVY%40localhost%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007796.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007799.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released</H1> + <B>Richard</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailinglist%20woes%2C%20Old%20messages%20released&In-Reply-To=%3C21960310.U6OEhIgdVY%40localhost%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released">richardwest at leiston.info + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jun 11 17:36:50 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007796.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007799.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7798">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7798">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7798">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7798">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Monday 11 June 2012 11:36:04 Michael Hill wrote: +><i> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Johnny A. Solbu <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cooker at solbu.net</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > Anyone else seeing this? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes. +</I> +Yes, I just got about 30. +-- +Richard. + +<A HREF="http://www.leiston.info">http://www.leiston.info</A> +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120611/b8c24d91/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007796.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007799.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7798">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7798">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7798">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7798">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007799.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007799.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ed669627f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007799.html @@ -0,0 +1,92 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailinglist%20woes%2C%20Old%20messages%20released&In-Reply-To=%3CCABN%3DKyg8NbqKQE1DJdH_J97AkjwkBktwzeEcs9Df7-P%3DaV2vYA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007798.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007800.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released</H1> + <B>Max Quarterpleen</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailinglist%20woes%2C%20Old%20messages%20released&In-Reply-To=%3CCABN%3DKyg8NbqKQE1DJdH_J97AkjwkBktwzeEcs9Df7-P%3DaV2vYA%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released">bogusman222 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jun 11 17:45:54 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007798.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007800.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7799">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7799">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7799">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7799">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Richard <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">richardwest at leiston.info</A>> wrote: + +><i> ** +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Monday 11 June 2012 11:36:04 Michael Hill wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Johnny A. Solbu <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cooker at solbu.net</A>> +</I>><i> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > > Anyone else seeing this? +</I>><i> +</I> +Yes. On -discuss and -marcom. + + +><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Yes. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes, I just got about 30. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Richard. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.leiston.info">http://www.leiston.info</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120611/5ff0e50b/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007798.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007800.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7799">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7799">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7799">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7799">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007800.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007800.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..2b4d0f1d5 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007800.html @@ -0,0 +1,88 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailinglist%20woes%2C%20Old%20messages%20released&In-Reply-To=%3C4FD61427.6090800%40aon.at%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007799.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007797.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released</H1> + <B>Norbert Marchl</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailinglist%20woes%2C%20Old%20messages%20released&In-Reply-To=%3C4FD61427.6090800%40aon.at%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released">norbert.marchl at aon.at + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jun 11 17:52:07 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007799.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007797.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7800">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7800">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7800">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7800">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Am 2012-06-11 17:45, schrieb Max Quarterpleen: +><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 6:36 PM, Richard <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">richardwest at leiston.info</A> +</I>><i> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">richardwest at leiston.info</A>>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> On Monday 11 June 2012 11:36:04 Michael Hill wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Johnny A. Solbu +</I>><i> <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cooker at solbu.net</A> <mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">cooker at solbu.net</A>>> wrote: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > > Anyone else seeing this? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes. On -discuss and -marcom. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Yes. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Yes, I just got about 30. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Richard. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="http://www.leiston.info">http://www.leiston.info</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>yea, about 30. +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20120611/2825b7a7/attachment.html> +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007799.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007797.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7800">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7800">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7800">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7800">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007801.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007801.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9296d9d7f --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007801.html @@ -0,0 +1,57 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailinglist%20woes%2C%20Old%20messages%20released&In-Reply-To=%3C4FD61637.90100%40unige.ch%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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It's insane to install applications +</I>><i> without their documentation. +</I> +I have a palmtop (EeePC) with only 4Gb HD, and I consider it would be insane, +given the limited HD space, to install things I do not need for daily use. + +Mind you, I fiound a simple way to get rid of unused / unwanted docs with + + for I in $(locate "usr/share/doc"); do rm -f $I; done + +Cheers, + +Ron. +-- + Anarchy may not be the best form of government, + but it's better than no government at all. + + -- <A HREF="http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org">http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org</A> -- + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007805.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007806.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7804">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7804">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7804">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7804">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007805.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007805.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..98982588a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007805.html @@ -0,0 +1,71 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailinglist%20woes%2C%20Old%20messages%20released&In-Reply-To=%3CCANa9xwsGpWSHRJaxP%3DhhZDeRML_Ar5nz08Zh5QA_7xs%3D_BWPfQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007803.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="007804.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mailinglist%20woes%2C%20Old%20messages%20released&In-Reply-To=%3CCANa9xwsGpWSHRJaxP%3DhhZDeRML_Ar5nz08Zh5QA_7xs%3D_BWPfQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jun 11 20:31:00 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007803.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007804.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7805">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7805">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7805">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7805">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, Jun 11, 2012 at 7:57 PM, AL13N <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">alien at rmail.be</A>> wrote: +><i> afaik there was a way to assign some people the task of moderating them for +</I>><i> each mailing list independantly. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> perhaps we could assign this task to all team-leaders for their mailing lists, +</I>><i> and possibly they can defer this to someone else. +</I> +I can tell for my own case (admin for -web, -marketing and -artwork). +Mailman "usability" is part of the problem here. I used to moderate at +the start, and after some time, I just considered filtered mail to be +rejected/ignored by default, leaving to the sender the effort to +figure out how to subscribe and post to the list. + +The default should be that: mailing from outside the list should be +allowed, or moderating an incoming message should be dead easy (such +as activating a link + confirm). +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007803.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="007804.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7805">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7805">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7805">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7805">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007806.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007806.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..4bb1a3f56 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/007806.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C1339440692.21033.5.camel%40localhost.localdomain%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="007804.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot</H1> + <B>Liam R E Quin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Handbooks%20-%20the%20lot&In-Reply-To=%3C1339440692.21033.5.camel%40localhost.localdomain%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot">liam at holoweb.net + </A><BR> + <I>Mon Jun 11 20:51:32 CEST 2012</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007804.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7806">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7806">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7806">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7806">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Mon, 2012-06-11 at 14:04 -0400, Renaud (Ron) Olgiati wrote: +><i> On Thursday 12 Apr 2012 22:28 my mailbox was graced by a message from Liam R E +</I>><i> Quin who wrote: +</I>><i> > > if I want a KDE application I have to install the handbook. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Which seems to me exactly right. It's insane to install applications +</I>><i> > without their documentation. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I have a palmtop (EeePC) with only 4Gb HD, and I consider it would be insane, +</I>><i> given the limited HD space, to install things I do not need for daily use. +</I> +The distribution needs to behave sensibly for most users, with the +possibility of customising it for individual needs. + +You found a way to remove the documentation, and presumably you would +never read it anyway. + +I still say individual programs, when installed, should include +documentation. + +Liam + +-- +Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, <A HREF="http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/">http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/</A> +Pictures from old books: <A HREF="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</A> + +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="007804.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#7806">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#7806">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#7806">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#7806">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..10d71c016 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,152 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 11 June 2012 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>11 June 2012 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 10:47:32 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 20:51:32 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 21<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="007803.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7803"> </A> +<I>AL13N +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007797.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7797"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007801.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7801"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007796.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7796"> </A> +<I>Michael Hill +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A><A NAME="7759"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007758.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A><A NAME="7758"> </A> +<I>Len Lawrence +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A><A NAME="7760"> </A> +<I>Len Lawrence +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A><A NAME="7762"> </A> +<I>Len Lawrence +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A><A NAME="7763"> </A> +<I>Len Lawrence +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A><A NAME="7764"> </A> +<I>Len Lawrence +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007757.html">[Mageia-discuss] KDE unified chat system does not work for me +</A><A NAME="7757"> </A> +<I>Thomas Lottmann +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A><A NAME="7761"> </A> +<I>Alejandro López +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007800.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7800"> </A> +<I>Norbert Marchl +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007804.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="7804"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007799.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7799"> </A> +<I>Max Quarterpleen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007806.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="7806"> </A> +<I>Liam R E Quin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007798.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7798"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007794.html">[Mageia-discuss] Quality of Service +</A><A NAME="7794"> </A> +<I>Johnny A. 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Solbu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007796.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7796"> </A> +<I>Michael Hill +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007797.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7797"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007798.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7798"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007799.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7799"> </A> +<I>Max Quarterpleen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007800.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7800"> </A> +<I>Norbert Marchl +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007801.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7801"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007802.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7802"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007803.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7803"> </A> +<I>AL13N +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007804.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="7804"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007805.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7805"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007806.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="7806"> </A> +<I>Liam R E Quin +</I> + + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Jun 11 20:51:32 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 20:52:17 CEST 2012</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/index.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/index.html new file mode 120000 index 000000000..db4b46f72 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20120611/index.html @@ -0,0 +1 @@ +thread.html
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Solbu +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007796.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7796"> </A> +<I>Michael Hill +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007797.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7797"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007798.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7798"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007799.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7799"> </A> +<I>Max Quarterpleen +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007800.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7800"> </A> +<I>Norbert Marchl +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007801.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7801"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007802.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7802"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007803.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7803"> </A> +<I>AL13N +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007805.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7805"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007761.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A><A NAME="7761"> </A> +<I>Alejandro López +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007763.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A><A NAME="7763"> </A> +<I>Len Lawrence +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007758.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A><A NAME="7758"> </A> +<I>Len Lawrence +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007759.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A><A NAME="7759"> </A> +<I>Doug Laidlaw +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007760.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A><A NAME="7760"> </A> +<I>Len Lawrence +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007762.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A><A NAME="7762"> </A> +<I>Len Lawrence +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007764.html">[Mageia-discuss] Need help recovering execute permission on local files +</A><A NAME="7764"> </A> +<I>Len Lawrence +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="007794.html">[Mageia-discuss] Quality of Service +</A><A NAME="7794"> </A> +<I>Johnny A. 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Solbu +</I> + +<!--0 01339428863- --> +<LI><A HREF="007795.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7795"> </A> +<I>Johnny A. Solbu +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01339428863-01339428964- --> +<LI><A HREF="007796.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7796"> </A> +<I>Michael Hill +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01339428863-01339428964-01339429010- --> +<LI><A HREF="007798.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7798"> </A> +<I>Richard +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01339428863-01339428964-01339429010-01339429554- --> +<LI><A HREF="007799.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7799"> </A> +<I>Max Quarterpleen +</I> + +<!--3 01339428863-01339428964-01339429010-01339429554-01339429927- --> +<LI><A HREF="007800.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7800"> </A> +<I>Norbert Marchl +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +<!--1 01339428863-01339428984- --> +<LI><A HREF="007797.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7797"> </A> +<I>Frank Griffin +</I> + +<!--1 01339428863-01339430455- --> +<LI><A HREF="007801.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7801"> </A> +<I>Juergen Harms +</I> + +<UL> +<!--2 01339428863-01339430455-01339430531- --> +<LI><A HREF="007802.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7802"> </A> +<I>Anne nicolas +</I> + +<UL> +<!--3 01339428863-01339430455-01339430531-01339437421- --> +<LI><A HREF="007803.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7803"> </A> +<I>AL13N +</I> + +<!--3 01339428863-01339430455-01339430531-01339437421-01339439460- --> +<LI><A HREF="007805.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mailinglist woes, Old messages released +</A><A NAME="7805"> </A> +<I>Romain d'Alverny +</I> + +</UL> +</UL> +</UL> +<!--0 01339437865- --> +<LI><A HREF="007804.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="7804"> </A> +<I>Renaud (Ron) Olgiati +</I> + +<UL> +<!--1 01339437865-01339440692- --> +<LI><A HREF="007806.html">[Mageia-discuss] Handbooks - the lot +</A><A NAME="7806"> </A> +<I>Liam R E Quin +</I> + +</UL> + </ul> + <p> + <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> + <i>Mon Jun 11 20:51:32 CEST 2012</i><br> + <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 20:52:17 CEST 2012</i> + <p> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a> + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p> + <hr> + <i>This archive was generated by + Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i> + </BODY> +</HTML> + |