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+ <B>AL13N</B>
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+ <I>Sun Jun 3 10:44:54 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Op zondag 3 juni 2012 16:13:01 schreef Doug Laidlaw:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 18:03:46 +1200
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> John &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">john at neodoc.biz</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm not sure if others have seen this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;<A HREF="http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement">http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/statement</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; John
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The statement says that all new computers must have the Windows-only
+</I>&gt;<i> lock. What about upgrades? If I buy a computer from a Linux dealer
+</I>&gt;<i> and retrofit Windows 8, where do I stand?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am staying with XP. The dealers still prefer XP over Win7, when
+</I>&gt;<i> they have a choice. When I can no longer use that, Windows goes out the
+</I>&gt;<i> window.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doug,
+</I>&gt;<i> Registered Linux user.
+</I>
+it means that if vendors will want to have the Win8 Certified Sticker, they
+will need to provided UEFI Secure Boot with only the windows key.
+
+that means you can't simply buy a machine and put linux under it, without
+thinking.
+
+Either, you will need to disable Secure Boot (maybe a jumper on mobo or in
+BIOS) or somehow add extra keys you need to build yourself for your own kernel
+and bootloader.
+
+originally, Microsoft had required that this key be hardwired, so that it was
+impossible to disable it or add any key.
+
+now it's still true for ARM devices, but not anymore for desktops. (after
+quite some upheaval Microsoft let it go for desktops)
+
+Fedora made a statement that it'll buy subscription from the windows key in
+their installer.
+
+it's a PITA, but also quite sad.
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