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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003601.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003601.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3d91e5739 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003601.html @@ -0,0 +1,183 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] First impressions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20First%20impressions&In-Reply-To=%3C4D5B1BBC.10602%40bendbroadband.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003602.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] First impressions</H1> + <B>Thomas C Gilliard</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20First%20impressions&In-Reply-To=%3C4D5B1BBC.10602%40bendbroadband.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] First impressions">satellit at bendbroadband.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Feb 16 01:35:08 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003602.html">[Mageia-discuss] First impressions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3601">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3601">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3601">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3601">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE> + +Maarten Vanraes wrote: +><i> Op dinsdag 15 februari 2011 22:01:21 schreef Thomas Backlund: +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Maarten Vanraes skrev 15.2.2011 22:34: +</I>>><i> +</I>>>><i> These are my own very conchise first impressions: +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> - no btrfs? (except in advanced setup) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> I think we can enable support for btrfs in standard setup +</I>>><i> (but I dont think we should go for it as default yet...) +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> exactly, i looked at the list, and it lists ext3, ext4, xfs, jfs, etc... btrfs +</I>><i> could easily be there amongst those. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I would indeed wait to set it by default when it has been more used and proven +</I>><i> as stable. (perhaps one or two releases further) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>>><i> - core media +</I>>>><i> This screen was never clear to me, and i never selected it, however, +</I>>>><i> perhaps for iso installation, a mirror repository should be +</I>>>><i> automatically there and selected by default? so that if there's updates, +</I>>>><i> they can already be used during installation... ? WDYT? +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Well, that page is to give the user the choice to add a mirror repo if +</I>>><i> she/she wants it, but not forcing it... +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> i'm just thinking if we list some form of updates there by default, it could +</I>><i> mean faster install (no updates later on), and if something wasn't functional, +</I>><i> at release time, it could be "pushed" from repositories, so that it would work +</I>><i> well. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> at the same time, i think we should try to minimize the amount of packages +</I>><i> needed to have working network, (or use the stuff that's in the stage tarballs +</I>><i> to get network, instead of first installing part of it) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>>><i> - i selected HTTP and it installed a few packages so i could enable +</I>>>><i> networking (2min) +</I>>>><i> - the partition step kept being highlighted, even when i was configuring +</I>>>><i> network... +</I>>>><i> - <A HREF="http://distrib-">http://distrib-</A> +</I>>>><i> coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64 didn't +</I>>>><i> seem to work when configuring additional media +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> It might have been overloaded, so no free download slots... +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> perhaps, i'm not sure +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>>><i> - KDE choice (very funny artwork :-D ) +</I>>>><i> - installing (5min) +</I>>>><i> - when configuring, wizard said my password was trivial to guess, even +</I>>>><i> though i had letter and digits in it with total length 8 +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> A good pasword should contain a mix of atleast 3 of theese: +</I>>><i> - lower-case characters +</I>>><i> - upper-case characters +</I>>><i> - numbers +</I>>><i> - special characters +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> and preferably >=10 characters +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> so, it's either trivial or good? no inbetweens? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>>><i> - perhaps the iso media should be removed after installation and when +</I>>>><i> updated media are installed? it keeps requesting for the DVD... +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> That would mean getting network traffic, even if you have it on the iso. +</I>>><i> And the user can always change it in the media manager +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> how often do you have people installing ISO, then removing iso, to boot from +</I>><i> disk; only to find out that you have to put it in again to install a few +</I>><i> applications. granted the first reboot doesn't boot from the iso, but the +</I>><i> subsequent boots do use the iso... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> otoh, indeed it could mean increased network traffic... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>>><i> - vim didn't show a color scheme for /etc/urpmi/urpmi.cfg . +</I>>>><i> - trying to update with urpmi --auto-select showed me that i had an +</I>>>><i> orphaned package ? kernel-desktop-devel ? odd... +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> urpmi orphans detection isn't perfect yet... +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> i don't think this is the problem, tbh, i'm wondering why it was even +</I>><i> installed? (unless it was for dkms stuff?) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>>>><i> logs vbox3 guest: (vbox3 is still in 2010.2, so perhaps we should have +</I>>>><i> vbox3 compatibility?) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> vbox 4 is in 2010.2 backports +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> true, but would you dare to upgrade an existing vbox3 version to vbox4? i have +</I>><i> several machines that are "saved"... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I> +See: comments: +/Preliminary testing shows Virtual Box Appliances from ver 3.1.10-12 +import and function well in ver 4.0.x and visa-versa / 12/26/2010 satellit +<A HREF="http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Emulator_image_files#VirtualBox">http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Emulator_image_files#VirtualBox</A> + +I default to .vmdk and .ovf for export and import and do not use new +.ova format for exports to maintain compatibility. + +Tom Gilliard +satellit_ on freenode IRC +>><i> -- +</I>>><i> Thomas +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20110215/22cf3bcf/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003602.html">[Mageia-discuss] First impressions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3601">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3601">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3601">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3601">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003602.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003602.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..be1faaf42 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003602.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] First impressions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20First%20impressions&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimj_CNgJj4Ey-hCDtkypz%2BB6sbGNBOgF9DyCpQC%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Installation was pretty and fast but after restart something switches off all video system and also monitor. VirtualBox close virtual mashine window and mageia on real partition switches off monitor. Same feeling what is after "switch off" +What I must do? +Screenshots about installation are here: +<A HREF="http://jaanus.ojangu.net/Materjalid/mageia/">http://jaanus.ojangu.net/Materjalid/mageia/</A> + +Jaanus Ojangu + + + +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003602.html">[Mageia-discuss] First impressions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003606.html">[Mageia-discuss] First impressions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3603">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3603">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3603">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3603">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003604.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003604.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8afb4417a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003604.html @@ -0,0 +1,78 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] First impressions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20First%20impressions&In-Reply-To=%3C1297868447.20660.102.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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"market" is connected with +</I>><i> > "selling", "app*" is connected with Apple's commercial appstore. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> That a word is used or misused would not justify to abdicate our own +</I>><i> use of it, if it is relevant. Or we are headed for newspeak each time. +</I> +Well, some people tried. Ask around you what they understand when we say +"hackers" or "communist". Or "geek". I do not like either to change the +meaning of word, that's very 1984 as you put it. But I also perfectly +realize that we cannot by ourself fight against the rest of the world. + +><i> "App" has been used years for software applications before Apple +</I>><i> coined the "AppStore" name. And their application platform has +</I>><i> fundamentally nothing new, but that it does build a hugely profitable +</I>><i> ecosystem, for now at least. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A "market" is a place where people meet and exchange stuff. From this +</I>><i> have grown many different things of different sizes and implications. +</I>><i> And sometimes, there is sales and purchases there, because that's how +</I>><i> it takes place. +</I> +I beg to differ, according to historic source, there is sale per +definition ( <A HREF="http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/market">http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/market</A> ). + +><i> And nothing here opposes collaboration: it just takes +</I>><i> place in a certain way, provided both parties are happy with the +</I>><i> transaction that took place. +</I> +For some people, market is also often associated with competition +( especially when associated to the capitalist view of the word, ie +"free market" ). And competition is kinda opposite to cooperation ( or +at least, not from the same person ). + +Sure that's not the only meaning, but there is a significant share of +people that will associate this rather with "competition" than +"cooperation". + +Again, just do a quick test around you. + +><i> "Market" may indeed not be the best word in this very case, but this +</I>><i> reflexion hints something interesting: that you oppose the possibility +</I>><i> to have paid-for stuff witin mageia-app-db. Why not. Is it so really? +</I>><i> Is it assumed? +</I> +If people ask me the question ( just in case someone is fool enough for +that ), I would oppose, yes. Not because I am fundamentally against +commercial activities, I do computer support for a fair trade +association from time to time that do commercial stuff, and more than +once I helped to sell tshirts on free software fair. And I also know +that people may need money to live ( mainly because I also do, as +surprising it seems ). + +But I would be against this in madb for 2 main reasons. + +The first is this was not suggested by anybody so far, and was not +expressed in term of requirements. So without this, it is better to say +"no until this is more clear", rather than "yes" and change mind later. + +"Having paid-for applications" is too broad, and this encompass things +like "adding flattr button" to "accepting DRM in rpm", or "filtering per +country what people can see in the application". + + +The second one is that adding commercial business in a software +distribution is gonna be risky and have some side effects, varying on +the type of commercial business. + +The introduction of Kiosk, while based on a interesting idea ( and well, +quite new at this time ) and good intentions, had a unfortunate chilling +effect on community. And the worst part was that community was in +competition with it when kde backports were offered as part of the +service. The same goes for the club ( despite being not so bad in term +of revenue, until Ubuntu appeared ). + +While both projects got killed in the end for various reasons, the end +result is that Mandriva seems to still suffer from the reputation +problem. And that's a sufficient reason to be cautious when adding +commercial business in the mix of a free software project. + +Unfortunately, the PR issue is quite tricky to get right. Let's take for +example Canonical. +Despite having a strong community, and enough ressources to have a +decent marketing team, they suffer from the same type of issue, ie bad +PR just du to the fact they try to make a living with commercial +business. + +See the controversy around Ubuntu One naming ( +<A HREF="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+bug/375345?comments=all">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-servers/+bug/375345?comments=all</A> ), +the very recent controversy with Banshee +( <A HREF="http://gburt.blogspot.com/2011/02/banshee-supporting-gnome-on-ubuntu.html">http://gburt.blogspot.com/2011/02/banshee-supporting-gnome-on-ubuntu.html</A> ), the older one about Rhythmbox and Magnatune ( <A HREF="http://lwn.net/Articles/377314/">http://lwn.net/Articles/377314/</A> , the story do not tell that the rb developers were not aware of the canonical patch ). And that's just the top of those that I can remind of, and a lot of reason of why people do not contribute to Ubuntu. + +Not everything will end this way of course, and we could provides +several example of commercial business mixing well with free software. +But it should be clear that answering "yes, we want to do some +commercial stuff" requires to be cautious and propose a solid and clear +case to avoid misunderstanding, bad PR and in the end lose in the +community. I think we can all agree that our community is still +recovering from the error of the past, and that it warrant to be more +than cautious, extra cautious. + +So in the end, I think "no for the moment and the first years" is the +proper answer. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003611.html">[Mageia-discuss] First impressions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003608.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia on VBox 3 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3605">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3605">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3605">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3605">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003606.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003606.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f783aefdf --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003606.html @@ -0,0 +1,74 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] First impressions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20First%20impressions&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin7e4iB7FD%3Dz8X7P6V4CmqVQJ9iQ7tmEyfccCXq%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003603.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003604.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] First impressions</H1> + <B>Hoyt Duff</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20First%20impressions&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin7e4iB7FD%3Dz8X7P6V4CmqVQJ9iQ7tmEyfccCXq%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] First impressions">hoytduff at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Feb 16 17:07:37 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003603.html">[Mageia-discuss] First impressions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003604.html">[Mageia-discuss] First impressions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3606">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3606">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3606">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3606">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 2/16/11, Jaanus Ojangu <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jaanus.ojangu at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> My problem. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm installing Mageia 32-bit both in VirtualBox 4.0 and on real partition. +</I>><i> Installation was pretty and fast but after restart something switches off +</I>><i> all video system and also monitor. VirtualBox close virtual mashine window +</I>><i> and mageia on real partition switches off monitor. Same feeling what is +</I>><i> after "switch off" +</I> +I installed Mageia in VBox 4.0.2 + +I saw some error messages briefly flash by about X11 failures. + +Upon re-booting, the login screen briefly appears and then the screen +goes black. + + +-- +Hoyt +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003603.html">[Mageia-discuss] First impressions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003604.html">[Mageia-discuss] First impressions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3606">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3606">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3606">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3606">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003607.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003607.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b126fb236 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003607.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] First impressions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20First%20impressions&In-Reply-To=%3C201102162003.54761.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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(Boot using the second option that drop you in a shell, edit +/etc/X11/xorg.conf with vi and that's ok !) + +Mageia is running perfectly using this option, but there is no mouse +integration ... + +Hope that it is useful +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003605.html">[Mageia-discuss] A name for mageia-app-db +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia on VBox 3 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3608">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3608">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3608">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3608">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003609.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003609.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..0158924cf --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003609.html @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia on VBox 3 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20on%20VBox%203&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinHvZoU1ARS9ROF1i-_zm8CizhxXAbA3d228ACP%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003608.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003610.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia on VBox 3</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20on%20VBox%203&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinHvZoU1ARS9ROF1i-_zm8CizhxXAbA3d228ACP%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia on VBox 3">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Feb 16 23:01:35 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003608.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia on VBox 3 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003610.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia on VBox 3 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3609">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3609">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3609">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3609">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 16 February 2011 23:37, Lucien XU <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sfietkonstantin at free.fr</A>> wrote: +><i> Hi +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I have catched a bit of information on IRC, that may interest everybody. +</I>><i> Those who have VBox 3 and want to test Mageia can setup their X server to use +</I>><i> vesa drivers. (Boot using the second option that drop you in a shell, edit +</I>><i> /etc/X11/xorg.conf with vi and that's ok !) +</I>><i> +</I> +Well, it's easier to just install virtualbox-4.0.2 and +dkms-virtualbox-4.0.2 from the main/backports repo in Mandriva 2010.0 +and 2010.1 (assuming you're talking about a Mandriva install). + +><i> Mageia is running perfectly using this option, but there is no mouse +</I>><i> integration ... +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hope that it is useful +</I>><i> +</I> +Well, the guy, AL13N, said that mouse integration works (I wouldn't +have guessed it would work... :)). + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003608.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia on VBox 3 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003610.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia on VBox 3 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3609">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3609">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3609">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3609">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003610.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003610.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..79736e6ea --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003610.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Mageia on VBox 3 + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20on%20VBox%203&In-Reply-To=%3C201102162316.06811.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003609.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Mageia on VBox 3</H1> + <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Mageia%20on%20VBox%203&In-Reply-To=%3C201102162316.06811.maarten.vanraes%40gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Mageia on VBox 3">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Feb 16 23:16:06 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia on VBox 3 +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3610">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3610">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3610">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3610">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Op woensdag 16 februari 2011 23:01:35 schreef Ahmad Samir: +><i> On 16 February 2011 23:37, Lucien XU <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">sfietkonstantin at free.fr</A>> wrote: +</I>><i> > Hi +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > I have catched a bit of information on IRC, that may interest everybody. +</I>><i> > Those who have VBox 3 and want to test Mageia can setup their X server to +</I>><i> > use vesa drivers. (Boot using the second option that drop you in a +</I>><i> > shell, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf with vi and that's ok !) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, it's easier to just install virtualbox-4.0.2 and +</I>><i> dkms-virtualbox-4.0.2 from the main/backports repo in Mandriva 2010.0 +</I>><i> and 2010.1 (assuming you're talking about a Mandriva install). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> > Mageia is running perfectly using this option, but there is no mouse +</I>><i> > integration ... +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Hope that it is useful +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Well, the guy, AL13N, said that mouse integration works (I wouldn't +</I>><i> have guessed it would work... :)). +</I> +i have mouse integration working fine, shared clipboard doesn't work however. +and of course the fluid resizing doesn't work either, but that's normal + +there is a separate x11 driver for vboxvideo and for mouseintegration. + +afaics there is normally compatibility code in guest additions so it can +normally run on older hosts +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003609.html">[Mageia-discuss] Mageia on VBox 3 +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3610">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3610">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3610">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3610">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003611.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003611.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c5d06eacb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110216/003611.html @@ -0,0 +1,66 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] First impressions + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20First%20impressions&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikR77N9DdAtbO5UEYe7Mx422jXRgN5QT6Q52QJT%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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