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diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003349.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003349.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..06c811edb --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003349.html @@ -0,0 +1,137 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20a%20cross-distribution%20meeting%20about%20software%0A%20installers&In-Reply-To=%3C20110108232733.GC3588%40shikamaru.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003350.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers</H1> + <B>Remy CLOUARD</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20a%20cross-distribution%20meeting%20about%20software%0A%20installers&In-Reply-To=%3C20110108232733.GC3588%40shikamaru.fr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers">shikamaru at mandriva.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 9 00:27:33 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003350.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3349">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3349">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3349">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3349">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sat, Jan 08, 2011 at 11:16:00PM +0100, Samuel Verschelde wrote: +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Vincent Untz from Novell, who works on openSuse, invited us (and contributers +</I>><i> from other distributions, including Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu) to participate +</I>><i> in a meeting about software installers and the end-user experience. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Here is how Vincent presents the project : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ----- Quote ----- +</I>><i> *** Goals *** +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Blue-sky goals: +</I>><i> * agree on a common UI to install applications +</I>><i> * agree on what metadata to use, how to generate it, where to host it +</I>><i> * agree on a protocol to use to provide non-static metadata (featured +</I>><i> apps, ratings, comments, etc.) +</I>><i> * decide what metadata can be shared between distros, and what should stay +</I>><i> distro-specific (eg: do we want user comments to be shared?) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> In reality, if it turns out we can't all agree on one item, it's still fine: it +</I>><i> doesn't mean we can't collaborate on the other items. And some distros might +</I>><i> still work together. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It's worth mentioning here that what matters to us is the end-user experience. +</I>><i> It matters more than the technical implementation. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> *** Background *** +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Nearly all distributions are slowly moving towards making it easier to deal +</I>><i> with applications, and get information about those. The Ubuntu Software Center +</I>><i> is a good example of work being done here. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> At the moment, many of us are working in our own corners, while we could +</I>><i> certainly all move much faster if we worked together, especially since we're +</I>><i> all targetting mostly the same result. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We do want content to be provided not just by us, distributors, but also by +</I>><i> the users: their experience with an application can inspire other users to +</I>><i> install it too. +</I>><i> The goals of this meeting is to see what can be put in common and harmonized +</I>><i> between various distributions, from the end-user point of view. +</I>><i> ----- End of quote ----- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The meeting will occur in Nürnberg, Germany from January 19th to 21st +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We don't know yet what the outcome of this 3-days meeting will be, but it may +</I>><i> be a great opportunity. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For the mageia side, the participants will be : +</I>><i> - Michael Scherer (misc) +</I>><i> - Olivier Thauvin (Nanar), author of Sophie, the cross-distribution RPM +</I>><i> database, +</I>><i> - Samuel Verschelde (Stormi), for the mageia-app-db project. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Best regards +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I>Great ! + +This sounds like a very good idea, such a move would be great to improve +interaction between distributions and divide the needed effort to +produce for each distribution. + +As far as I’m concerned, I’m sorry the schedule is a bit too tight for +me, I won’t be able to attend this meeting. Besides, the cost of the +ticket won’t make it possible either. + +I’m eager to know what will come out of this meeting, have a good trip ! +:<i>-) +</I> +Regards, +-- +Rémy CLOUARD +() ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail +/\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments +-------------- next part -------------- +A non-text attachment was scrubbed... +Name: not available +Type: application/pgp-signature +Size: 230 bytes +Desc: not available +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20110109/50489262/attachment.asc> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003350.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3349">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3349">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3349">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3349">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003350.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003350.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..8c6607b57 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003350.html @@ -0,0 +1,147 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20a%20cross-distribution%20meeting%20about%20software%0A%20installers&In-Reply-To=%3C4D297071.5000806%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003349.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003358.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20a%20cross-distribution%20meeting%20about%20software%0A%20installers&In-Reply-To=%3C4D297071.5000806%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 9 09:23:13 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003349.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003358.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3350">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3350">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3350">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3350">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Remy CLOUARD a écrit : +><i> On Sat, Jan 08, 2011 at 11:16:00PM +0100, Samuel Verschelde wrote: +</I>>><i> Hi, +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Vincent Untz from Novell, who works on openSuse, invited us (and contributers +</I>>><i> from other distributions, including Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu) to participate +</I>>><i> in a meeting about software installers and the end-user experience. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Here is how Vincent presents the project : +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> ----- Quote ----- +</I>>><i> *** Goals *** +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Blue-sky goals: +</I>>><i> * agree on a common UI to install applications +</I>>><i> * agree on what metadata to use, how to generate it, where to host it +</I>>><i> * agree on a protocol to use to provide non-static metadata (featured +</I>>><i> apps, ratings, comments, etc.) +</I>>><i> * decide what metadata can be shared between distros, and what should stay +</I>>><i> distro-specific (eg: do we want user comments to be shared?) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> In reality, if it turns out we can't all agree on one item, it's still fine: it +</I>>><i> doesn't mean we can't collaborate on the other items. And some distros might +</I>>><i> still work together. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> It's worth mentioning here that what matters to us is the end-user experience. +</I>>><i> It matters more than the technical implementation. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> *** Background *** +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Nearly all distributions are slowly moving towards making it easier to deal +</I>>><i> with applications, and get information about those. The Ubuntu Software Center +</I>>><i> is a good example of work being done here. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> At the moment, many of us are working in our own corners, while we could +</I>>><i> certainly all move much faster if we worked together, especially since we're +</I>>><i> all targetting mostly the same result. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> We do want content to be provided not just by us, distributors, but also by +</I>>><i> the users: their experience with an application can inspire other users to +</I>>><i> install it too. +</I>>><i> The goals of this meeting is to see what can be put in common and harmonized +</I>>><i> between various distributions, from the end-user point of view. +</I>>><i> ----- End of quote ----- +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The meeting will occur in Nürnberg, Germany from January 19th to 21st +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> We don't know yet what the outcome of this 3-days meeting will be, but it may +</I>>><i> be a great opportunity. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> For the mageia side, the participants will be : +</I>>><i> - Michael Scherer (misc) +</I>>><i> - Olivier Thauvin (Nanar), author of Sophie, the cross-distribution RPM +</I>>><i> database, +</I>>><i> - Samuel Verschelde (Stormi), for the mageia-app-db project. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Best regards +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Samuel Verschelde +</I>><i> Great ! +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This sounds like a very good idea, such a move would be great to improve +</I>><i> interaction between distributions and divide the needed effort to +</I>><i> produce for each distribution. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As far as I’m concerned, I’m sorry the schedule is a bit too tight for +</I>><i> me, I won’t be able to attend this meeting. Besides, the cost of the +</I>><i> ticket won’t make it possible either. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I’m eager to know what will come out of this meeting, have a good trip ! +</I>><i> :-) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Regards, +</I> +I really interested in that too. (But likewise can't attend.) + +Have you noticed the Mancoosi project ? +It's an experimental international project to develop means of making +software installation, and rolling back to the previous state in case of +problems, fail-proof. +They're even exploring allowing installation with ordinary user +privileges. (By considerable redundancy.) +(The downside seems that it would use a lot more disk space.) + +see www.mancoosi.org + blog.mancoosi.org +It might be useful to review before your meeting. + +And be sure to take notes, to let us in on the discussions :) + +Regards +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003349.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003358.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3350">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3350">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3350">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3350">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003351.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003351.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..c8c7e6838 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003351.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20a%20cross-distribution%20meeting%20about%20software%0A%09installers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin_0%2BhsSEcJqpUQgVaLEy06u15kh6-dRcE1nt7k%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003358.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003352.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20a%20cross-distribution%20meeting%20about%20software%0A%09installers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTin_0%2BhsSEcJqpUQgVaLEy06u15kh6-dRcE1nt7k%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 9 09:57:04 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003358.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003352.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3351">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3351">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3351">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3351">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/1/8 Samuel Verschelde <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">stormi at laposte.net</A>>: +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Vincent Untz from Novell, who works on openSuse, invited us (and contributers +</I>><i> from other distributions, including Fedora, Debian and Ubuntu) to participate +</I>><i> in a meeting about software installers and the end-user experience. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The meeting will occur in Nürnberg, Germany from January 19th to 21st +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We don't know yet what the outcome of this 3-days meeting will be, but it may +</I>><i> be a great opportunity. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> For the mageia side, the participants will be : +</I>><i> - Michael Scherer (misc) +</I>><i> - Olivier Thauvin (Nanar), author of Sophie, the cross-distribution RPM +</I>><i> database, +</I>><i> - Samuel Verschelde (Stormi), for the mageia-app-db project. +</I> +Development is not my line of work but user relations is, also +experience with various distributions. As Nürnberg is not far from my +home (Frankfurt) and I do have the time I'd like to drop by for one +day, if only for a meet&greet with you guys. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003358.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003352.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3351">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3351">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3351">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3351">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003352.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003352.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..5fbaf0846 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003352.html @@ -0,0 +1,75 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20a%20cross-distribution%20meeting%20about%20software%0A%09installers&In-Reply-To=%3C201101091046.09084.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003351.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003353.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20a%20cross-distribution%20meeting%20about%20software%0A%09installers&In-Reply-To=%3C201101091046.09084.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 9 10:46:08 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003351.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003353.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3352">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3352">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3352">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3352">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> schrieb am 2011-01-09 +><i> > For the mageia side, the participants will be : +</I>><i> > - Michael Scherer (misc) +</I>><i> > - Olivier Thauvin (Nanar), author of Sophie, the +</I>><i> > cross-distribution RPM database, +</I>><i> > - Samuel Verschelde (Stormi), for the mageia-app-db project. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Development is not my line of work but user relations is, also +</I>><i> experience with various distributions. As Nürnberg is not far from +</I>><i> my home (Frankfurt) and I do have the time I'd like to drop by for +</I>><i> one day, if only for a meet&greet with you guys. +</I> +The same goes for me. It's just a 2 and a half hour hop by car to my +former home town. +Wobo, perhaps we could do some combined meet&greet? +I have to see, how I can fit it into my calendar... + +Oliver +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003351.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003353.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3352">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3352">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3352">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3352">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003353.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003353.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..91773ba64 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003353.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20a%20cross-distribution%20meeting%20about%20software%0A%09installers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimOKSWMcy36UcP2ofxCmuO6tqxQAGsgq7eeER7a%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003352.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003354.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20a%20cross-distribution%20meeting%20about%20software%0A%09installers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimOKSWMcy36UcP2ofxCmuO6tqxQAGsgq7eeER7a%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 9 10:51:31 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003352.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003354.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3353">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3353">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3353">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3353">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/1/9 Oliver Burger <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>>: +><i> Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> schrieb am 2011-01-09 +</I>>><i> > For the mageia side, the participants will be : +</I>>><i> > - Michael Scherer (misc) +</I>>><i> > - Olivier Thauvin (Nanar), author of Sophie, the +</I>>><i> > cross-distribution RPM database, +</I>>><i> > - Samuel Verschelde (Stormi), for the mageia-app-db project. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Development is not my line of work but user relations is, also +</I>>><i> experience with various distributions. As Nürnberg is not far from +</I>>><i> my home (Frankfurt) and I do have the time I'd like to drop by for +</I>>><i> one day, if only for a meet&greet with you guys. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The same goes for me. It's just a 2 and a half hour hop by car to my +</I>><i> former home town. +</I>><i> Wobo, perhaps we could do some combined meet&greet? +</I>><i> I have to see, how I can fit it into my calendar... +</I> +I think we have to ask first about the nature of the meeting (are +visitors allowed, etc.). + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003352.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003354.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3353">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3353">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3353">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3353">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003354.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003354.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..a66fd7158 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003354.html @@ -0,0 +1,104 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20a%20cross-distribution%20meeting%20about%20software%0A%09installers&In-Reply-To=%3C201101091106.02089.stormi%40laposte.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003353.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003355.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers</H1> + <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20a%20cross-distribution%20meeting%20about%20software%0A%09installers&In-Reply-To=%3C201101091106.02089.stormi%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers">stormi at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 9 11:06:01 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003353.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003355.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3354">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3354">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3354">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3354">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Le dimanche 9 janvier 2011 09:57:04, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +><i> 2011/1/8 Samuel Verschelde <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">stormi at laposte.net</A>>: +</I>><i> > Hi, +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Vincent Untz from Novell, who works on openSuse, invited us (and +</I>><i> > contributers from other distributions, including Fedora, Debian and +</I>><i> > Ubuntu) to participate in a meeting about software installers and the +</I>><i> > end-user experience. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > The meeting will occur in Nürnberg, Germany from January 19th to 21st +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > We don't know yet what the outcome of this 3-days meeting will be, but it +</I>><i> > may be a great opportunity. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > For the mageia side, the participants will be : +</I>><i> > - Michael Scherer (misc) +</I>><i> > - Olivier Thauvin (Nanar), author of Sophie, the cross-distribution RPM +</I>><i> > database, +</I>><i> > - Samuel Verschelde (Stormi), for the mageia-app-db project. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Development is not my line of work but user relations is, also +</I>><i> experience with various distributions. As Nürnberg is not far from my +</I>><i> home (Frankfurt) and I do have the time I'd like to drop by for one +</I>><i> day, if only for a meet&greet with you guys. +</I> +As we were invited more or less directly by Vincent Untz, unfortunately we +probably can't add by ourselves new attendants to the meeting. In fact we are +already 3 persons from mageia out of 9 attendants (unless you count Nanar as +distro-independant for this meeting because Sophie is cross-distro). + +But I'm CCing Vincent in case he has a different opinion. + +Which doesn't mean we are the best people for such a meeting (for sure, hadn't +I started the mageia-app-db project recently, I wouldn't have been invited, +given my limited past contributions :)), but I think the most important here +is that this reunion takes place, and we'll of course make follow-ups on the +MLs after that. + +However, it would be great to meet you there, I'm sure you could join us for a +meal or more, or we could "escape" a diner to go with you and maybe other +german willing to join us :) +Beware : my "deutsch" level is far far below what it should be given it was +first foreign language. I'm even better at russian ! + +Best regards + +Samuel Verschelde +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003353.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003355.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3354">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3354">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3354">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3354">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003355.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003355.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..ddac1ca11 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003355.html @@ -0,0 +1,80 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20a%20cross-distribution%20meeting%20about%20software%0A%09installers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinBL5xe3_DNMuEmPdeiYKK6%2BWAm4uOtg1Kkmtbc%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003354.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003356.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20a%20cross-distribution%20meeting%20about%20software%0A%09installers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinBL5xe3_DNMuEmPdeiYKK6%2BWAm4uOtg1Kkmtbc%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 9 11:25:58 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003354.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003356.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3355">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3355">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3355">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3355">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2011/1/9 Samuel Verschelde <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">stormi at laposte.net</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> As we were invited more or less directly by Vincent Untz, unfortunately we +</I>><i> probably can't add by ourselves new attendants to the meeting. In fact we are +</I>><i> already 3 persons from mageia out of 9 attendants (unless you count Nanar as +</I>><i> distro-independant for this meeting because Sophie is cross-distro). +</I> +That's what I meant with my question about the nature of the meeting. +><i> +</I>><i> However, it would be great to meet you there, I'm sure you could join us for a +</I>><i> meal or more, or we could "escape" a diner to go with you and maybe other +</I>><i> german willing to join us :) +</I> +As I wrote, I'm free all 3 days and I can come over to meet - have to +go back at 8:30pm to catch my train, so lunch or early dinner or +whatever would be a pleasure. + +><i> Beware : my "deutsch" level is far far below what it should be given it was +</I>><i> first foreign language. I'm even better at russian ! +</I> +Well, picture 7 French people at a lunch table in Bruxelles, all +talking in different dialects! I survived that (with a little help +from shikamaru and others) :) +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003354.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003356.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3355">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3355">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3355">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3355">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003356.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003356.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..dd3e9ba36 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003356.html @@ -0,0 +1,62 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20a%20cross-distribution%20meeting%20about%20software%0A%09installers&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DHz_GOTgQcevn8BANAMXhriK%3DLwSfr94kRn23X%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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Christeas</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20a%20cross-distribution%20meeting%20about%20software%0A%09installers&In-Reply-To=%3C201101092121.51699.p_christ%40hol.gr%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers">p_christ at hol.gr + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 9 20:21:51 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003360.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3359">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3359">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3359">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3359">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Sunday 09 January 2011, Samuel Verschelde wrote: +><i> Hi, +</I>><i> Here is how Vincent presents the project : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Blue-sky goals: +</I>><i> * agree on a common UI to install applications +</I>><i> * agree on what metadata to use, how to generate it, where to host it +</I>><i> * agree on a protocol to use to provide non-static metadata (featured +</I>><i> apps, ratings, comments, etc.) +</I>><i> * decide what metadata can be shared between distros, and what should +</I>><i> stay distro-specific (eg: do we want user comments to be shared?) +</I>><i> +</I> +Well, this is great news! +It seems I'm not the only one thinking about cross-distro development inside +the Linux ecosystem. + +I hope it opens everybody's eyes on the collaboration issue. + +Let me suggest: could you agree to continue the conversation in FOSDEM? I +guess, after your efficient meeting in Nuernberg, we could have a wider (and +perhaps more noisy, too) chat in Brussels. + + + +-- +Say NO to spam and viruses. Stop using Microsoft Windows! +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003360.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3359">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3359">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3359">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3359">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003360.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003360.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..469bdc059 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/003360.html @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20a%20cross-distribution%20meeting%20about%20software%0A%20installers&In-Reply-To=%3C20110109224318.GF21120%40vuntz.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003357.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003359.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers</H1> + <B>Vincent Untz</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20a%20cross-distribution%20meeting%20about%20software%0A%20installers&In-Reply-To=%3C20110109224318.GF21120%40vuntz.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers">vuntz at opensuse.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sun Jan 9 23:43:18 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003357.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003359.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3360">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3360">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3360">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3360">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Hi, + +Le dimanche 09 janvier 2011, à 11:06 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit : +><i> Le dimanche 9 janvier 2011 09:57:04, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit : +</I>><i> > 2011/1/8 Samuel Verschelde <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">stormi at laposte.net</A>>: +</I>><i> > > Hi, +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > Vincent Untz from Novell, who works on openSuse, invited us (and +</I>><i> > > contributers from other distributions, including Fedora, Debian and +</I>><i> > > Ubuntu) to participate in a meeting about software installers and the +</I>><i> > > end-user experience. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > The meeting will occur in Nürnberg, Germany from January 19th to 21st +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > We don't know yet what the outcome of this 3-days meeting will be, but it +</I>><i> > > may be a great opportunity. +</I>><i> > > +</I>><i> > > For the mageia side, the participants will be : +</I>><i> > > - Michael Scherer (misc) +</I>><i> > > - Olivier Thauvin (Nanar), author of Sophie, the cross-distribution RPM +</I>><i> > > database, +</I>><i> > > - Samuel Verschelde (Stormi), for the mageia-app-db project. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Development is not my line of work but user relations is, also +</I>><i> > experience with various distributions. As Nürnberg is not far from my +</I>><i> > home (Frankfurt) and I do have the time I'd like to drop by for one +</I>><i> > day, if only for a meet&greet with you guys. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> As we were invited more or less directly by Vincent Untz, unfortunately we +</I>><i> probably can't add by ourselves new attendants to the meeting. In fact we are +</I>><i> already 3 persons from mageia out of 9 attendants (unless you count Nanar as +</I>><i> distro-independant for this meeting because Sophie is cross-distro). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But I'm CCing Vincent in case he has a different opinion. +</I> +Right. I don't want to offend anyone or sound negative, but I do think +it's indeed important to not have one distribution being +over-represented during the meeting, so I'd prefer to avoid having other +Mageia people joining -- unless there's a really really good reason for +someone to join. + +That being said, if you have the opportunity to drop by in the evening, +I'm sure something can be arranged for dinner. + +Sorry :/ + +Vincent + +-- +Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003357.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003359.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3360">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3360">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3360">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3360">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..51d4e22ac --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20110109/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,107 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 9 January 2011 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <a name="start"></A> + <h1>9 January 2011 Archives by author</h1> + <ul> + <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b> + <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a> + + <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a> + + <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More info on this list... + </a></b></li> + </ul> + <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Sun Jan 9 00:27:33 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sun Jan 9 23:43:18 CET 2011</i><br> + <b>Messages:</b> 12<p> + <ul> + +<LI><A HREF="003351.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A><A NAME="3351"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003353.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A><A NAME="3353"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003355.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A><A NAME="3355"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003356.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A><A NAME="3356"> </A> +<I>Wolfgang Bornath +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003352.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A><A NAME="3352"> </A> +<I>Oliver Burger +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003349.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A><A NAME="3349"> </A> +<I>Remy CLOUARD +</I> + +<LI><A HREF="003359.html">[Mageia-discuss] a cross-distribution meeting about software installers +</A><A NAME="3359"> </A> +<I>P. 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