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I wouldn’t go that far to chose whatever community +</I>><i> wants. Would be impossible. +</I>><i> </cite> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The part between "" is key for me, we expect mageia don't repeat the +</I>><i> mistakes of mandriva  , may be at this time there is not a tool to +</I>><i> manage votes from community and you have to do in the way you do the +</I>><i> things with logo process. +</I>><i> +</I> +Well, the point is, if the selection process wasn't good enough, why +didn't anyone who had that point of view speak up _before_ the final +decision was made? everything was posted clearly on this mailing list +long before that decision was made... + +><i> But i think a tread in mailing list or even a dedicated mailing list +</I>><i> for receive votes for logos was fit very well as poll tool :) +</I> +There's already a dedicated app for that, Epoll. + +><i> +</I>><i> As Romain say all have to learn for this experience and try to do +</I>><i> things better next time. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Now he have logo, go for next milestone :) +</I>><i> +</I> + + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003208.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3200">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3200">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3200">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3200">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003201.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003201.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..00f38532a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003201.html @@ -0,0 +1,109 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinLYsN1NHAVb%3DqmxfvTzqCNU4%2B8KWyTWjQ_ty2x%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003214.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003203.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo</H1> + <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinLYsN1NHAVb%3DqmxfvTzqCNU4%2B8KWyTWjQ_ty2x%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo">rdalverny at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Dec 10 12:37:15 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003214.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003203.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3201">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3201">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3201">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3201">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Thu, Dec 9, 2010 at 20:37, José Alberto Valle Cid +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">j.alberto.vc at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> Part of this comment +</I>><i> (<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/?p=289&cpage=1#comment-442">http://blog.mageia.org/?p=289&cpage=1#comment-442</A>) resume very well +</I>><i> for me some of the reactions (included mine) [...] +</I>><i> "I expected to be more open than this" [...] +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The part between "" is key for me, we expect mageia don't repeat the +</I>><i> mistakes of mandriva  , may be at this time there is not a tool to +</I>><i> manage votes from community and you have to do in the way you do the +</I>><i> things with logo process. +</I> +It's not even a question of tool here. The decision process was +presented, explained ahead of it to happen, several times, here, on +the wiki page, and no serious objection was raised about it. The way +this decision happened, for that matter, from the founding board, +having read, checked and reflected upon the feedback from the +community, is legitimate. Questioning this after the game is... +curious. + +We will improve and use the voting platform for further decisions, but +there will be decisions that will be taken only from the board, or +from the council or from all team members, depending on the +context/decision; but not from anyone just passing by. + +And remember, council/board members will be elected, for that matter. +Here, the founding board obviously takes this role for the time being, +as it triggered Mageia and sets the basic bricks. + +This leads back to the team constitution process; the discussion about +which has not been closed, several weeks ago and we will have to come +to something clear before this voting process can be more widely used. + +><i> But i think a tread in mailing list or even a dedicated mailing list +</I>><i> for receive votes for logos was fit very well as poll tool :) +</I> +That's what the open discussion here (that many participated in) was +for. The board did not vote from nowhere without having checked others +views. + +We can and will improve, but please do take into account that the +decision process has been announced and open to debate long enough +before we did come to vote. + +Cheers, + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003214.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003203.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3201">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3201">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3201">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3201">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003202.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003202.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..787f1f93e --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003202.html @@ -0,0 +1,72 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20%3D%3Fiso-8859-1%3Fq%3FHabemus_logo%3F%3D&In-Reply-To=%3C1291983413.DBdcB536.19199%40mail.ua%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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The decision process was +</I>><i> presented, explained ahead of it to happen, several times, here, on +</I>><i> the wiki page, and no serious objection was raised about it. The way +</I>><i> this decision happened, for that matter, from the founding board, +</I>><i> having read, checked and reflected upon the feedback from the +</I>><i> community, is legitimate. Questioning this after the game is... +</I>><i> curious. +</I>><i> +</I> +Not curious at all; it's human nature. + +And you see it from your perspective, being involved from the very +beginning, it makes no sense to question everything or complain about +it; it was all laid out at some point and posted various places. But +those who joined the discussion late did not have the benefit of +knowing everything in a sequential order, had not seen all the posts, +had not read the wiki and, in fact, were missing important pieces of +information. + +Should they have had all the information? Of course. Did they? No. And +it is a mistake to blame them for that. Educating them should be a +continuing part of the process. + +That incomplete transfer of information is a flaw in the logo process +which led to the indictment of the product.as you see in the comments +because, while they want to participate in the discussion, they did +not become fully informed, were not able to understand the process and +felt excluded as a consequence. + +Communication is always a challenging task, especially when dealing +with the culture of The *NIX Way: RTFM. + +-- +Hoyt +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003201.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003204.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3203">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3203">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3203">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3203">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003204.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003204.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..21b29e432 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003204.html @@ -0,0 +1,117 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimLnL7jrmFJmr3VTiaqtotmeY4BPy2gfmOjq_zP%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003203.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003205.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo</H1> + <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimLnL7jrmFJmr3VTiaqtotmeY4BPy2gfmOjq_zP%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo">molch.b at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Dec 10 16:11:01 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003203.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003205.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3204">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3204">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3204">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3204">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>2010/12/10 Hoyt Duff <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>>: +><i> +</I>><i> That incomplete transfer of information is a flaw in the logo process +</I>><i> which led to the indictment of the product.as you see in the comments +</I>><i> because, while they want to participate in the discussion,  they did +</I>><i> not become fully informed, were not able to understand the process and +</I>><i> felt excluded as a consequence. +</I> +Well, if this is your point of view, then here is mine: + +><i>From whatever perspective and whatever step-in point in time you may see it: +</I> +1. There was no "incomplete transfer of information". +2. Nobody was excluded or "not fully informed" unless he missed all +the numerous information on all possible Mageia related places all +over the net. But in this case he should have missed the complete +issue at all. + +Wherever you looked at any time during the whole proposal stage you +met a pointer to the guidelines - except if you never looked at the +blog article about the logo process, never looked into the mailing +list discussions, but only read about the logo issue on one single +tweet or on a poorly edited 3rd-party website where they reported +about the logo and gave the upload directions but not the link to the +guidelines. I must admit that I saw such a website myself (in German). +We will never ever be able to avoid such cases, short of answering +every single proposition with a detailed mail, still we can't be sure +that the person in question will read that mail. + +About all those comments (BTW: there are more comments in favor of the +decision) - does it occur to you that those who are complaining only +started to care about the whole thing after the show? IMHO these +complaints are the usual wave of complaints which will wash the beach +after each and every decision, no matter how transparent or democratic +the decision finding process was. + +One nice example: on our website (mandrivauser.de) we had a pointer to +a competition (writing an article for our magazine), the pointer was +printed in fat red letters and was placed in the header of the forum +page (the most visited part of the whole website) for more than 6 +weeks. After the deadline was over and we announced the results there +were people who complained, they would have participated if they only +knew... + +What I want to say: we do believe that people who are interested in +our project are able to read more than one tweet before they design, +upload and never look back. + +If you still insist, may be next occasion you should be appointed to +organize the whole thing and do all that what you think has been +missed this time. This would have 2 benefits: first you will see how +much extra work you are proposing and second you will see that there +will not be one single complaint less than this time. + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003203.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003205.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3204">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3204">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3204">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3204">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003205.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003205.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d505cbef0 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003205.html @@ -0,0 +1,76 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3C4D024309.8050507%40free.fr%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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It is valid in RL as online, in +school, job, family, everywhere. It starts as soon as you are more +than one. +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003205.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003210.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3206">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3206">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3206">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3206">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003207.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003207.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..75ae621dc --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003207.html @@ -0,0 +1,102 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] help from kde forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20help%20from%20kde%20forums&In-Reply-To=%3C20100919145450.GC9680%40mongueurs.net%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003202.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003215.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] help from kde forums</H1> + <B>Jerome Quelin</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20help%20from%20kde%20forums&In-Reply-To=%3C20100919145450.GC9680%40mongueurs.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] help from kde forums">jquelin at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Dec 10 18:27:09 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003202.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003215.html">[Mageia-discuss] help from kde forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3207">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3207">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3207">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3207">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>hi, + +here's a mail that i received from anne wilson, of kde's fame: + +----- Forwarded message from Anne Wilson <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">annew at kde.org</A>> ----- + +><i> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:57:14 +0100 +</I>><i> From: Anne Wilson <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">annew at kde.org</A>> +</I>><i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jquelin at gmail.com</A> +</I>><i> Subject: Mageia +</I>><i> User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.34.4-0.1-default; KDE/4.5.1; i686; ; ) +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I'm no longer subscribed to the Mandriva mailing lists, but a friend forwards +</I>><i> interesting messages to me. Two of my family still run Mandriva (I maintain +</I>><i> their systems) and I hope to have another convert soon. The recent news about +</I>><i> Mandriva has been a blow to me. I cut my Linux teeth on Mandrake 8.x. When +</I>><i> the call for members to invest, I was there. I was one of the original club +</I>><i> members. It felt like the end of a long story, for me. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, to the reason for this email. I see you have got your IRC channels set +</I>><i> up. Consider having a forum on forum.kde.org - the admins are helpful and +</I>><i> welcoming. I'm the de facto maintainer of content on UserBase (see my sig), +</I>><i> so ping me when ever you want Mageia specifics mentioning there. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Good luck to you all. I'll be watching. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Anne +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> KDE Community Working Group +</I>><i> New to KDE Software? - get help from <A HREF="http://userbase.kde.org">http://userbase.kde.org</A> +</I> +----- End forwarded message ----- + +so, for our forum overlords in here - this may be interesting to take +that into account. + +jérôme +-- +<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jquelin at gmail.com</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003202.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003215.html">[Mageia-discuss] help from kde forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3207">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3207">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3207">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3207">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003208.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003208.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7ec067152 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003208.html @@ -0,0 +1,65 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTinqWu5ftj3L0Hw4gd1wTd3uaMtDxhDmuemS1iEU%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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The decision process was +</I>><i> presented, explained ahead of it to happen, several times, here, on +</I>><i> the wiki page, and no serious objection was raised about it. The way +</I>><i> this decision happened, for that matter, from the founding board, +</I>><i> having read, checked and reflected upon the feedback from the +</I>><i> community, is legitimate. Questioning this after the game is... +</I>><i> curious. +</I>><i> +</I>This is some strange to me, and i have to accept i mistake when i did +not do my part "complaint" about it before. + +><i> We will improve and use the voting platform for further decisions, but +</I>><i> there will be decisions that will be taken only from the board, or +</I>><i> from the council or from all team members, depending on the +</I>><i> context/decision; but not from anyone just passing by. +</I>><i> +</I>Well i understand that will exist decisions that only board can do, +but really the logo is one of that decisions ?, i am not sure about +that. +</PRE> + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003210.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003202.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3209">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3209">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3209">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3209">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003210.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003210.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..f32159fba --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003210.html @@ -0,0 +1,91 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTiniHu4bcqVB1tWHoF_Qzf1ruj9mfcZ3YTGnaGAe%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003206.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003209.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo</H1> + <B>Daniel Kreuter</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTiniHu4bcqVB1tWHoF_Qzf1ruj9mfcZ3YTGnaGAe%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo">daniel.kreuter85 at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Dec 10 20:38:58 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003206.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003209.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3210">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3210">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3210">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3210">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:32 PM, Hoyt Duff <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> And you see it from your perspective, being involved from the very +</I>><i> beginning, it makes no sense to question everything or complain about +</I>><i> it; it was all laid out at some point and posted various places. But +</I>><i> those who joined the discussion late did not have the benefit of +</I>><i> knowing everything in a sequential order, had not seen all the posts, +</I>><i> had not read the wiki and, in fact, were missing important pieces of +</I>><i> information. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Hoyt +</I>><i> +</I> +In my opinion you're quite right at that point. But it isn't as easy as it +may sound for new people joining a project which exists for some time. I +joined it 2 weeks ago and didn't get the discussion from the beginning. But +I read every mail I got since then. + +But btt: It's a very nice logo. I can not wait to get the first wallpaper +with this logo xD. +For now I saved this one and put it quite in the center of my desktop, +changed the Backgroundcolour so it fits :) + +-- +Mit freundlichen Grüßen + +Greetings + +Daniel Kreuter +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-discuss/attachments/20101210/4014a4d2/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003206.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003209.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3210">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3210">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3210">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3210">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003211.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003211.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..46e356f4a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003211.html @@ -0,0 +1,79 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DnsDQbN3nEKrs%3Ds8Nv05Q5mNef%2BTq-RkiEF7Vr%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003208.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003212.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo</H1> + <B>Diego Bello</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DnsDQbN3nEKrs%3Ds8Nv05Q5mNef%2BTq-RkiEF7Vr%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo">dbello at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Dec 10 20:39:21 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003208.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003212.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3211">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3211">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3211">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3211">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 3:51 PM, José Alberto Valle Cid +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">j.alberto.vc at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 5:16 AM, Ahmad Samir <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +</I>>>><i> But i think a tread in mailing list or even a dedicated mailing list +</I>>>><i> for receive votes for logos was fit very well as poll tool :) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> There's already a dedicated app for that, Epoll. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> But was restringed use for board members, the actual mandriva call for +</I>><i> backgrounds look better way to do things (users only have to mark as +</I>><i> favorite the backgrounds and the most marked will be chosen) +</I>><i> +</I> +A wallpaper is aomething that won't represent a distro, it will only +make it pretier. A logo is something that will represent the distro, +so, for me, it is totally understandable that the board members chose +the one. + +A logo will never please everybody because every person has his or her +own opinions and preferences. + +-- +Diego Bello Carreño +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003208.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003212.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3211">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3211">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3211">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3211">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003212.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003212.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..9a1aaae2b --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003212.html @@ -0,0 +1,71 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DaVyHt6g-zcgMbi3-EmwJiBFYkOWT%3DxN56cRVG%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003211.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003213.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo</H1> + <B>José Alberto Valle Cid</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DaVyHt6g-zcgMbi3-EmwJiBFYkOWT%3DxN56cRVG%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo">j.alberto.vc at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Dec 10 21:03:35 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003211.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003213.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3212">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3212">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3212">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3212">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Diego Bello <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dbello at gmail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> A wallpaper is aomething that won't represent a distro, it will only +</I>><i> make it pretier. A logo is something that will represent the distro, +</I>><i> so, for me, it is totally understandable that the board members chose +</I>><i> the one. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> A logo will never please everybody because every person has his or her +</I>><i> own opinions and preferences. +</I>><i> +</I> +Of course, but the distribution need to be something that all +community feel their own, so i think the logo is not a decision only +for the board, in more democratic process will see less "complaints" +(at less not mines ;) ) +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003211.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003213.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3212">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3212">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3212">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3212">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003213.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003213.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..fe2260e12 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003213.html @@ -0,0 +1,82 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3C201012102117.25163.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003212.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003214.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo</H1> + <B>Oliver Burger</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3C201012102117.25163.oliver.bgr%40googlemail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Dec 10 21:17:25 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003212.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003214.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3213">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3213">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3213">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3213">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>José Alberto Valle Cid <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">j.alberto.vc at gmail.com</A>> schrieb am 2010-12-10 +><i> On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Diego Bello <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">dbello at gmail.com</A>> +</I>wrote: +><i> > A wallpaper is aomething that won't represent a distro, it will +</I>><i> > only make it pretier. A logo is something that will represent +</I>><i> > the distro, so, for me, it is totally understandable that the +</I>><i> > board members chose the one. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > A logo will never please everybody because every person has his +</I>><i> > or her own opinions and preferences. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Of course, but the distribution need to be something that all +</I>><i> community feel their own, so i think the logo is not a decision +</I>><i> only for the board, in more democratic process will see less +</I>><i> "complaints" (at less not mines ;) ) +</I> +The process was stated at 2010-11-30 in the blog an nobody complained +about it then. + +Complaining now after the decision fell on a logo not one's own +favorite is just a bit strange don't you think? + +If anybody had problems with the decision process, why didn't you +complain then? + +Oliver +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003212.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003214.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3213">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3213">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3213">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3213">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003214.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003214.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..3ace71338 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003214.html @@ -0,0 +1,69 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim4SLLJd4jsEwHtdSb0Mh15Y6iXDM%3DyydSqKG1h%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003213.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003201.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo</H1> + <B>José Alberto Valle Cid</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Habemus%20logo&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTim4SLLJd4jsEwHtdSb0Mh15Y6iXDM%3DyydSqKG1h%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo">j.alberto.vc at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Dec 10 21:27:08 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003213.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003201.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3214">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3214">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3214">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3214">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at 2:17 PM, Oliver Burger +<<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> The process was stated at 2010-11-30 in the blog an nobody complained +</I>><i> about it then. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Complaining now after the decision fell on a logo not one's own +</I>><i> favorite is just a bit strange don't you think? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If anybody had problems with the decision process, why didn't you +</I>><i> complain then? +</I>><i> +</I>Yes and i already accept it before, may be i must not assume that my +words not change nothing , so i also have to learn of this process . +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003213.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003201.html">[Mageia-discuss] Habemus logo +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3214">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3214">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3214">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3214">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003215.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003215.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b7cd5f124 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003215.html @@ -0,0 +1,59 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] help from kde forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20help%20from%20kde%20forums&In-Reply-To=%3Cloom.20101210T223206-984%40post.gmane.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003207.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="003216.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] help from kde forums</H1> + <B>isadora</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20help%20from%20kde%20forums&In-Reply-To=%3Cloom.20101210T223206-984%40post.gmane.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] help from kde forums">isis2000 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Dec 10 22:33:56 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003207.html">[Mageia-discuss] help from kde forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003216.html">[Mageia-discuss] help from kde forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3215">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3215">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3215">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3215">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>Some over-dated news-item, september 19th? + + +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003207.html">[Mageia-discuss] help from kde forums +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003216.html">[Mageia-discuss] help from kde forums +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3215">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3215">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3215">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3215">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003216.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003216.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..d9faff9f1 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/003216.html @@ -0,0 +1,105 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-discuss] help from kde forums + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20help%20from%20kde%20forums&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimJ7JNwyixWAa-QeX0jncz8y7QuS-UjMef0ONWZ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="003215.html"> + + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-discuss] help from kde forums</H1> + <B>Ahmad Samir</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20help%20from%20kde%20forums&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTimJ7JNwyixWAa-QeX0jncz8y7QuS-UjMef0ONWZ%40mail.gmail.com%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] help from kde forums">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com + </A><BR> + <I>Fri Dec 10 23:02:02 CET 2010</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003215.html">[Mageia-discuss] help from kde forums +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3216">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3216">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3216">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3216">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 19 September 2010 17:54, Jerome Quelin <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jquelin at gmail.com</A>> wrote: +><i> hi, +</I>><i> +</I>><i> here's a mail that i received from anne wilson, of kde's fame: +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ----- Forwarded message from Anne Wilson <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">annew at kde.org</A>> ----- +</I>><i> +</I>>><i> Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:57:14 +0100 +</I>>><i> From: Anne Wilson <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">annew at kde.org</A>> +</I>>><i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jquelin at gmail.com</A> +</I>>><i> Subject: Mageia +</I>>><i> User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.34.4-0.1-default; KDE/4.5.1; i686; ; ) +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> I'm no longer subscribed to the Mandriva mailing lists, but a friend forwards +</I>>><i> interesting messages to me.  Two of my family still run Mandriva (I maintain +</I>>><i> their systems) and I hope to have another convert soon.  The recent news about +</I>>><i> Mandriva has been a blow to me.  I cut my Linux teeth on Mandrake 8.x.  When +</I>>><i> the call for members to invest, I was there.  I was one of the original club +</I>>><i> members.  It felt like the end of a long story, for me. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> So, to the reason for this email.  I see you have got your IRC channels set +</I>>><i> up.  Consider having a forum on forum.kde.org - the admins are helpful and +</I>>><i> welcoming.  I'm the de facto maintainer of content on UserBase (see my sig), +</I>>><i> so ping me when ever you want Mageia specifics mentioning there. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Good luck to you all.  I'll be watching. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Anne +</I>>><i> -- +</I>>><i> KDE Community Working Group +</I>>><i> New to KDE Software? - get help from <A HREF="http://userbase.kde.org">http://userbase.kde.org</A> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> ----- End forwarded message ----- +</I>><i> +</I>><i> so, for our forum overlords in here - this may be interesting to take +</I>><i> that into account. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> jérôme +</I>><i> -- +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">jquelin at gmail.com</A> +</I>><i> +</I> +I guess a sub-forum for a KDE app might fit in forum.kde.org; but not +for a full fledged distro... + +The forum of a distro will get posts about all sorts of software +(other DE's, kernel, hardware, drakxtools... etc), not just +kde-related problems. So I don't think sub-forum in forum.kde.org will +do it for a distro (just my humble 0.02€ worth). + +-- +Ahmad Samir +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003215.html">[Mageia-discuss] help from kde forums +</A></li> + + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3216">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3216">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3216">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3216">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/author.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..7b73657e3 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-discuss/20101210/author.html @@ -0,0 +1,132 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <title>The Mageia-discuss 10 December 2010 Archive by author</title> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; 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