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+ <B>Wayne Sallee</B>
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+<PRE>Hoyt Duff wrote on 11/18/2010 02:19 PM:
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5011126293/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5011126293/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sphere would be ideal candidate for a world globe.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I like the idea of of the world idea. Mageia is for everyone around the
+world, and since it is a community rather than a business, it has a
+bigger interest in the needs of everyone, and not just meeting some
+small niche, but meets peoples needs on a global aspect.
+
+Maybe the above logo can be make to look more like the earth. And the
+part that looks like a flame be make to look more like Mageia bringing
+the world together.
+
+With those changes, I might like the above logo the best.
+
+As the logos are now, I like the following the best:
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/55329486@N03/5134846325">http://www.flickr.com/photos/55329486@N03/5134846325</A>
+
+
+
+Wayne Sallee
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at WayneSallee.com</A>
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+ <B>Wayne Sallee</B>
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+<PRE>Wayne Sallee wrote on 11/18/2010 08:59 PM:
+&gt;<i> Hoyt Duff wrote on 11/18/2010 02:19 PM:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5011126293/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5011126293/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sphere would be ideal candidate for a world globe.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I like the idea of of the world idea. Mageia is for everyone around
+</I>&gt;<i> the world, and since it is a community rather than a business, it has
+</I>&gt;<i> a bigger interest in the needs of everyone, and not just meeting some
+</I>&gt;<i> small niche, but meets peoples needs on a global aspect.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe the above logo can be make to look more like the earth. And the
+</I>&gt;<i> part that looks like a flame be make to look more like Mageia bringing
+</I>&gt;<i> the world together.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With those changes, I might like the above logo the best.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As the logos are now, I like the following the best:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/55329486@N03/5134846325">http://www.flickr.com/photos/55329486@N03/5134846325</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wayne Sallee
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at WayneSallee.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I also like:
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/29757814@N02/5041941825">http://www.flickr.com/photos/29757814@N02/5041941825</A>
+
+But then I also like the idea that was brought up about having a Logo
+that does not depend on the Mageia name. The previously mentioned logo
+that looks like a globe fits that idea.
+
+Wayne Sallee
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at WayneSallee.com</A>
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+ <B>Hoyt Duff</B>
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+<PRE>On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Wayne Sallee &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at waynesallee.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hoyt Duff wrote on 11/18/2010 02:19 PM:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5011126293/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5011126293/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sphere would be ideal candidate for a world globe.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I like the idea of of the world idea. Mageia is for everyone around the
+</I>&gt;<i> world, and since it is a community rather than a business, it has a bigger
+</I>&gt;<i> interest in the needs of everyone, and not just meeting some small niche,
+</I>&gt;<i> but meets peoples needs on a global aspect.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe the above logo can be make to look more like the earth. And the part
+</I>&gt;<i> that looks like a flame be make to look more like Mageia bringing the world
+</I>&gt;<i> together.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>That could be accomplished by outlining the &quot;flame&quot; in dark blue or black.
+
+
+
+
+--
+Hoyt
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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 09:22, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> &#160;2. public discussion is open on this list after validation from the
+</I>&gt;<i> board, for a few days.
+</I>
+My favorite currently is
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ennael/5021614784/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ennael/5021614784/</A> followed by
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017306285/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017306285/</A>
+The idea of <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5011126293/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5011126293/</A>
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+I'd like to have prism54 &amp; rt73 &amp; hso-rezero as I use them to install
+Mageia when not being capable of using a Ethernet-card or WiFi-card.
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+<PRE>Pascal Terjan wrote on 11/19/2010 06:53 AM:
+&gt;<i> followed by
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017306285/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017306285/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yea, I think that one looks nice too.
+
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> -----Urspr&#252;ngliche Nachricht-----
+</I>&gt;<i> Von: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A> [mailto:mageia-
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>] Im Auftrag von Wayne Sallee
+</I>&gt;<i> Gesendet: Freitag, 19. November 2010 13:24
+</I>&gt;<i> An: Mageia general discussions
+</I>&gt;<i> Betreff: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan wrote on 11/19/2010 06:53 AM:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; followed by
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017306285/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017306285/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yea, I think that one looks nice too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wayne Sallee
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at WayneSallee.com</A>
+</I>
+But stars arn't allowed I thought and as mentioned in the
+guidelines.
+My favorites are:
+1. <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/</A>
+2. <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ueros/5099707080/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ueros/5099707080/</A>
+3. <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5038318001/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5038318001/</A>
+4. <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tigger-gg/5027064477/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/tigger-gg/5027064477/</A>
+
+
+Plain but nice!
+
+Regards,
+Thorsten
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+
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/</A>
+
+and all the derivates. It can be used with colors on a website or
+letter head. It can be used with or without the name, and it can be
+used in monochrom.
+
+Simple as can be.
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+ <B>Dale Huckeby</B>
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+<PRE>On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, Wayne Sallee wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hoyt Duff wrote on 11/18/2010 02:19 PM:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5011126293/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5011126293/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sphere would be ideal candidate for a world globe.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I like the idea of of the world idea. Mageia is for everyone around the
+</I>&gt;<i> world, and since it is a community rather than a business, it has a bigger
+</I>&gt;<i> interest in the needs of everyone, and not just meeting some small niche, but
+</I>&gt;<i> meets peoples needs on a global aspect.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe the above logo can be make to look more like the earth. And the part
+</I>&gt;<i> that looks like a flame be make to look more like Mageia bringing the world
+</I>&gt;<i> together.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With those changes, I might like the above logo the best.
+</I>
+I like orbs but they need not be made to look like the earth. I think
+something like a crystal ball would be better. In the one above, trying
+to make the flame spell out an &quot;m&quot; just makes the flame itself look kind
+of dorky. Better would be a flame that looks like a flame, maybe kind of
+wispy, and not trying to spell anything out.
+
+&gt;<i> As the logos are now, I like the following the best:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/55329486@N03/5134846325">http://www.flickr.com/photos/55329486@N03/5134846325</A>
+</I>
+Same here.
+
+Dale Huckeby
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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+&gt;<i> There is one that matches all guidelines as well as my understanding of a logo:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and all the derivates. It can be used with colors on a website or
+</I>&gt;<i> letter head. It can be used with or without the name, and it can be
+</I>&gt;<i> used in monochrom.
+</I>
++1
+
+Clean enough to be reused and renewed from time to time.
+
+( too bad, we cannot do a stuffed cauldron, it would have been
+perfect ).
+
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 8:59 PM, Wayne Sallee &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at waynesallee.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hoyt Duff wrote on 11/18/2010 02:19 PM:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5011126293/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5011126293/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sphere would be ideal candidate for a world globe.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I like the idea of of the world idea. Mageia is for everyone around the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> world, and since it is a community rather than a business, it has a bigger
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> interest in the needs of everyone, and not just meeting some small niche,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but meets peoples needs on a global aspect.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe the above logo can be make to look more like the earth. And the part
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that looks like a flame be make to look more like Mageia bringing the world
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> together.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That could be accomplished by outlining the &quot;flame&quot; in dark blue or black.
+</I>
+I'd rather the flame not be outlined at all but look like an actual flame,
+indistinct at the edges, rising from a crystal ball. With the stylized,
+bounded flame it looks rinky dink, toylike, and sharpening the boundedness
+only exacerbates the problem. The visual elements of a logo don't *have*
+to literal-mindedly combine to spell out a meaning. At least, perusing the
+submissions, I don't see anything as ugly as SUSE's (gecko?).
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+&gt;&gt;<i> -----Urspr&#252;ngliche Nachricht-----
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Von: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A> [mailto:mageia-
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>] Im Auftrag von Wayne Sallee
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Gesendet: Freitag, 19. November 2010 13:24
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> An: Mageia general discussions
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Betreff: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan wrote on 11/19/2010 06:53 AM:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> followed by
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017306285/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017306285/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yea, I think that one looks nice too.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Wayne Sallee
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at WayneSallee.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But stars arn't allowed I thought and as mentioned in the
+</I>&gt;<i> guidelines.
+</I>
+I don't think they're actually barred. I think a number of people just thought it wouldn't be a good idea if we want
+to differentiate ourselves from Mandriva, which I think we do. That's why I wouldn't vote for that one.
+
+&gt;<i> My favorites are:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ueros/5099707080/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ueros/5099707080/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5038318001/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5038318001/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tigger-gg/5027064477/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/tigger-gg/5027064477/</A>
+</I>
+I don't like the other three but I like no. 3. It would look even better, in my opinion, if the encircling ribbon
+was less visually overpowering, framing rather than dominating the central sphere. Also, and this is true of many
+of the submissions, the lettering tries too hard to be original at the expense of legibility and attractiveness.
+Any number of more or less standard fonts would be better. (I like Cheltenham myself.) It's the logo itself that
+needs to stand out and be distinctive. &quot;Mageia&quot; isn't the logo.
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+Dale Huckeby
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+ <B>J&#233;r&#244;me H&#233;nin</B>
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+&gt;<i> My favorite currently is
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ennael/5021614784/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ennael/5021614784/</A>
+</I>
+I support this: there are many good-looking proposals, but in my view,
+this is the one that best combines visual simplicity with reference to
+community values (and as a bonus, the Mageia 'M').
+
+Still, I would recommend the following changes:
+1) removing the rays beaming from the 'M'
+2) setting the M exactly upright in the logo + text version
+3) maybe play around with smoother edges to make the M/characters look
+less pixel-y.
+
+Cheers,
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+&gt;<i> I like the following the best:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/55329486@N03/5134846325">http://www.flickr.com/photos/55329486@N03/5134846325</A>
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+ +1 here!
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+&gt;<i> I don't like the other three but I like no. 3. It would look even
+</I>&gt;<i> better, in my opinion, if the encircling ribbon
+</I>Agreed
+
+
+&gt;<i> was less visually overpowering, framing rather than dominating the
+</I>&gt;<i> central sphere. Also, and this is true of many
+</I>&gt;<i> of the submissions, the lettering tries too hard to be original at the
+</I>&gt;<i> expense of legibility and attractiveness.
+</I>
++1
+
+Doug
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+
+
+--
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+&gt;<i> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:57:35 -0600
+</I>&gt;<i> From: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">spock at evansville.net</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Fri, 19 Nov 2010, Thorsten van Lil wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -----Urspr&#252;ngliche Nachricht-----
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Von: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">mageia-discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A> [mailto:mageia-
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">discuss-bounces at mageia.org</A>] Im Auftrag von Wayne Sallee
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Gesendet: Freitag, 19. November 2010 13:24
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> An: Mageia general discussions
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Betreff: Re: [Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan wrote on 11/19/2010 06:53 AM:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> followed by
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017306285/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5017306285/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yea, I think that one looks nice too.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Wayne Sallee
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at WayneSallee.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But stars arn't allowed I thought and as mentioned in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> guidelines.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think they're actually barred. I think a number of people just thought it wouldn't be a good idea if we want
+</I>&gt;<i> to differentiate ourselves from Mandriva, which I think we do. That's why I wouldn't vote for that one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My favorites are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2. <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ueros/5099707080/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ueros/5099707080/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3. <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5038318001/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5038318001/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 4. <A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tigger-gg/5027064477/">http://www.flickr.com/photos/tigger-gg/5027064477/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't like the other three but I like no. 3. It would look even better, in my opinion, if the encircling ribbon
+</I>&gt;<i> was less visually overpowering, framing rather than dominating the central sphere. Also, and this is true of many
+</I>&gt;<i> of the submissions, the lettering tries too hard to be original at the expense of legibility and attractiveness.
+</I>&gt;<i> Any number of more or less standard fonts would be better. (I like Cheltenham myself.) It's the logo itself that
+</I>&gt;<i> needs to stand out and be distinctive. &quot;Mageia&quot; isn't the logo.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+For number 3 i agree with the logo, but i absolutely don't like the font.&#160;
+Those are my favorites:
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/in/pool-mageia-artSimple">http://www.flickr.com/photos/ofaurax/5127775007/in/pool-mageia-artSimple</A> but still modern.
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5141934927/in/pool-mageia-artI">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54316230@N06/5141934927/in/pool-mageia-artI</A> like that mix of different symbols, shows the variety of the distribution.&#160;
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5038318001/in/pool-mageia-artGreat">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54167983@N08/5038318001/in/pool-mageia-artGreat</A> modern looking logo, but still i am not really happy with the font.
+<A HREF="http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5013673327/in/pool-mageia-artJust">http://www.flickr.com/photos/54240048@N08/5013673327/in/pool-mageia-artJust</A> somehow like it ;)
+Kind regards,Enrico
+
+
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+I think that this Thread will become an extremely awkward way of making and
+reviewing comments. During the next week, it will become extremely
+difficult to find all of the replies concerning a particular logo image.
+(Some will refer to previous comments; others will not... some talk about
+only ONE image, others talk about many, and it's hard to keep track of all
+those tabs. Especially when NESTED replies here refer to only one or two of
+the logos discussed in the a &quot;parent&quot; reply which contained 3, 4, or even
+more.) Flipping all those tabs gets to be very messy (even with a 3D tab
+manager, such as the Firefox &quot;showcase&quot; extension).
+
+The 'mgared tag set' does not provide for such comments within the slide
+show. Can we instead click from the red (and then orange...) tag sets,
+back to the original pictures, so that each image can be viewed with ALL
+related comments at once (threaded together, right under the image)?
+
+I recognize at least one other &quot;reply&quot; here as a duplicate of &quot;comment&quot;
+material on the original pictures. It's MUCH easier to understand that
+commentary with the picture directly above, and with all other comments
+and threaded replies about the same logo right there.
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+I have a world-wide concern with &quot;blue globe&quot; earth images, and a
+USA-related problem with &quot;blue flame&quot; logos.
+
+Guidelines explicitly dis-allowed the use of elements which are already in
+use (by Mandriva, KDE, GNOME and one or two others.) But the &quot;any other
+obvious trademarked/common logo&quot; is open to interpretation, and I think
+that we should explicitly dis-allow &quot;globe earth&quot; logo elements in shades
+of blue. Firefox is possibly the most popular &quot;open source&quot; software of
+all; and they've been using the blue earth background ever since they
+crawled through the Phoenix --&gt; Firebird --&gt; Firefox mess.
+- - - - -
+
+I also hate the blue flame image (in nearly all of it's many variations).
+People on other continents may not know this, but the emblem is _widely_
+used in USA advertising. Not just one company, either: It's shared among
+all makers of gas appliances and vendors of gas (piped-in natural gas, and
+tank-stored Liquid propane too). Natural gas gas supplies are abundant and
+inexpensive here- typically only 1/3 the cost of electrical resistance
+heating, and we've got at least 200 years worth left of recoverable
+natural gas left.)
+
+In addition to advertisements promoting specific products and suppliers,
+there are additional ads bought to emphasize that it burns much &quot;cleaner&quot;
+than coal. (These are the most numerous of all advertisements.) So, in the
+USA, it really DOES look like we're trying to sell kitchen stoves, or water
+heaters, or burners for heating homes, or gas appliance usage in a general
+way.
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+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Nov 19 23:22:16 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 18<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003084.html">[Mageia-discuss] comments would work better on flickr, I think.
+</A><A NAME="3084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rick Stockton
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003038.html">[Mageia-discuss] Firmwares in general
+</A><A NAME="3038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003034.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003035.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003036.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003037.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003039.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003040.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003041.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003042.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003043.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003044.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003045.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003046.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>J&#233;r&#244;me H&#233;nin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003047.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003048.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003049.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Enrico Gsell
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="003085.html">[Mageia-discuss] two more &quot;common logos&quot; designs have entries in the red list (IMO).
+</A><A NAME="3085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rick Stockton
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Fri Nov 19 02:59:22 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Fri Nov 19 23:22:16 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 18<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01290131962- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003034.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01290131962-01290134712- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003035.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01290131962-01290135554- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003036.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01290131962-01290135554-01290180419- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003044.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01290131962-01290177679- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003042.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01290131962-01290184234- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003047.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01290167582- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003037.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01290167582-01290169460- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003039.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wayne Sallee
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01290167582-01290169460-01290172698- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003040.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thorsten van Lil
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01290167582-01290169460-01290172698-01290174215- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003041.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290167582-01290169460-01290172698-01290174215-01290178189- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003043.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290167582-01290169460-01290172698-01290182255- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003045.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290167582-01290169460-01290172698-01290182255-01290184935- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003048.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Doug Lytle
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290167582-01290169460-01290172698-01290182255-01290184935-01290203721- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003084.html">[Mageia-discuss] comments would work better on flickr, I think.
+</A><A NAME="3084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rick Stockton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290167582-01290169460-01290172698-01290182255-01290184935-01290203721-01290205336- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003085.html">[Mageia-discuss] two more &quot;common logos&quot; designs have entries in the red list (IMO).
+</A><A NAME="3085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Rick Stockton
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01290167582-01290169460-01290172698-01290182255-01290205024- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003049.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Enrico Gsell
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01290167582-01290183302- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003046.html">[Mageia-discuss] Logo proposals discussion
+</A><A NAME="3046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>J&#233;r&#244;me H&#233;nin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01290167904- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003038.html">[Mageia-discuss] Firmwares in general
+</A><A NAME="3038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kristoffer Grundstr&#246;m
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Fri Nov 19 23:22:16 CET 2010</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Nov 22 00:54:02 CET 2010</i>
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