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+ <B>andre999</B>
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+ <I>Mon Nov 8 04:16:15 CET 2010</I>
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+<PRE>Renaud MICHEL a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On dimanche 07 novembre 2010 at 00:54, andre999 wrote :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Olivier Thauvin a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * andre999 (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">andr55 at laposte.net</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So to update from -1 to -3 I'll download around 300KB but to upgrade
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> from -2 to -3 I'll download the full rpm so maybe around 20MB (in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> case the rpm is 20MB) ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No no no no no !
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If from -1 to -3 is 300K, then upgrading from -2 to -3 would still be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 300K.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Of course, this raises the point that the names of the original files in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -1 will have to be retained after updates, as well as the names of files
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> replacing them, in order to make the additional updates. (And remove
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> any interim updates subsequently replaced.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But what append if a file modified in an update is rolled back in a
+</I>&gt;<i> subsequent update?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Let's say revision -1 of a package contains files A B and C, an update to
+</I>&gt;<i> revision -2 changes B to B', then it is realised that the problem was
+</I>&gt;<i> actually in file C and not B, so in revision -3 B' is replaced by original B
+</I>&gt;<i> and C is replaced by C'.
+</I>&gt;<i> So the delta between -1 and -3 only contains C', so if someone updates with
+</I>&gt;<i> the delta from revision -2 he will still have B' as the delta won't contain
+</I>&gt;<i> B which was in the original -1 revision.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Good point.
+Which means that delta-3 will have to contain B as well as C'
+But it would still be smaller than the full package.
+One thing I've thought of, is if the delta approaches the size of the
+release package, it might be better/simpler to just make a full update.
+However, most of the time this is not likely to occur, especially with
+larger packages.
+&gt;&gt;<i> This could be facilitated by making the names of the replacement files
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in delta updates the original file name + a suffix corresponding to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> delta update.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't understand, the files need to have the correct name to work once
+</I>&gt;<i> installed, or are you proposing that on an update to keep all previous files
+</I>&gt;<i> by suffixing them?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I've just been looking at the spec file (for the first time), and as I
+understand it, it would be the version of the contained file that
+changes, the file name remaining constant.
+So unless I'm misunderstanding something, the current naming convention
+already takes care of this factor.
+Except that we would still have to retain the version of the files in
+the original (release) package.
+
+- Andr&#233;
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