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Many times I've seen bugfixes +</I>>>><i> of bugfixes, and sometimes bugfixes of bugfixes of bugfixes. +</I>>>><i> (If you read the description.) +</I>>>><i> If we go for incremental rpms (very much smaller), the only +</I>>>><i> advantage I see is for those without Internet connexion. +</I>>>><i> In that case, they wouldn't likely be vulnerable to security +</I>>>><i> problems. So that leaves (other) bugfixes. +</I>>>><i> This is something that I think, for the time being at least, +</I>>>><i> can be best adressed on an individual or local community basis. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> - André +</I>>>><i> +</I>>><i> Therefore, for a Mageia Community to supply an ISO to a member +</I>>><i> who has dial-up services but is seeking help from the community +</I>>><i> for an ISO download. Options would be: +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> * provide user with ISO from Mageia without any updates +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> * provide a user with ISO from Mageia with incremental updates +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> * provide a user with ISO from Mageia with all updates +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Obviously, the two last options are not available from Mageia as +</I>>><i> this is what this thread was all about. Unless there were built +</I>>><i> ISO's at the Mageia download site. The main concerns really are +</I>>><i> the amount of disk space on Mageia servers and mirrors. But these +</I>>><i> last two ISO's could be built somehow if the server space could +</I>>><i> be accommodated and also if there was dev interest in doing these +</I>>><i> ISOs. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Marc +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> You missed my suggestion - provide 2 discs, one with the original +</I>><i> (thoroughly tested) release ISO, and a second disc with the latest +</I>><i> set of updates. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>Right. The best solution. + +To reiterate, the suggestion was that the second disc would contain +packages of the update repositories, to be made by communities - or +individuals - as needed, for users with no or limited internet access. +The advantage being that since updates are considerably smaller than +official packages, it would take a lot less time/effort than making a +much larger ISO updating an official ISO. + +Note that the update repositories remove outdated updates. + +Further thoughts : + +It would also be useful to have a utility to assist making such an +update disc, downloading the current contents of update repositories, etc. +Ideally the utility would (at least have the default option to) only +include updates for packages on the official ISO, making it much smaller. + +Local communities could even keep a local copy of update repositories, +to facilitate quickly making update discs. + +For the user, installation would be a 2 or 3 step process : +1) Install the official ISO + +2) Install the update ISO, a much quicker process than (1). + +3) If the user has limited Internet access, update on line, to ensure +that one has the latest updates, a much quicker process than (2). +If the update ISO is recent enough, there will be no updates in this step. + +Currently, installation should include steps (1) and (3). + +So essentially, there is no (significant) disadvantage for the user to +have a separate update ISO. +Also note that this approach does not change the storage space needed in +mirrors, as these update discs, made from the contents of update +repositories, would not themselves be in repository. For good reason : +the contents of the update repositories change on a daily basis. + +- André +</PRE> + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002933.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002926.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions for the ISO +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2934">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2934">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2934">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2934">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |