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+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+<PRE>Op dinsdag 02 november 2010 10:56:52 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
+&gt;<i> 2010/11/2 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but not an ISO_0 in december. (imo, it will not be pretty at all)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you read the roadmap carefully you will see that the ISO planned
+</I>&gt;<i> for December is an Alpha 1, then there will be an Alpha 2 in January
+</I>&gt;<i> and the first Final Release of Mageia will be in March 2011.
+</I>
+last meeting i read agreed on april
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+&gt;<i> Nobody is talking about anything stable in December.
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+i did notice that; but imo; it has to be at least a bit stable in December,
+because we still have all the contrib packages to go through...
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+i still propose we get the 2010.1 into the ISO_0 and for the next release go
+do from cauldron.
+
+don't forget there's also the whole /soft tree that still needs to be decided
+what to do...
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+are we going to do urpm/rpm ourselves or are we going to let mandriva handle
+that?
+
+imo, there's way too much to be done to have anything stable; and if we go
+this route, i can predict that our release will not be stable enough.
+
+i really want to have a stable release which i will not be ashamed of.
+
+we don't have much people working fulltime on this; and just having a 2010.1
+with updates rebranded will be alot better. that way we can focus on upgrading
+from several mandriva's without issues. and handle all the major changes that
+are being pushed in to cooker to work fine in the next release.
+
+i also forgot that:
+ * systemd
+ * grub2
+ * gnome3
+ * ...
+
+our new packagers still need to be taught how to package etc...
+
+there is way too much to be done. if we go down this route, our first release
+might as well be september 18th...
+
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+this is all my opinion, but tbh, i'm getting panicked if i hear this.
+realistically, it's just not feasable to have something stable in april that
+will upgrade completely fine from mandriva. (even if it's from older releases).
+
+Kind Regards,
+
+Maarten
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