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+ <B>Marc Par&#233;</B>
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+<PRE>Le 2010-10-24 20:19, Wayne Sallee a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Michael Scherer wrote on 10/23/2010 08:52 PM:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le dimanche 24 octobre 2010 &#195; 02:09 +0200, Tux99 a &#195;&#169;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Come on... the effort of adding a decent description is minimal for a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packager, the effort for a normal user of making a patch is much
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> higher, this is not a very friendly answer towards the users...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think I demonstrated in the past that constant friendliness toward
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> users is not one of my distinctive characteristics.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The patch arguent is invalid, because people can also send mail, like
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;here is a better description of package $FOO because I didn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> understood the current one and I wanted to help&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So while sending a email and finding the packager email can be hard for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some people, I doubt that sending a email is hard for everybody.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If writing a decent description is easy and almost effortless, and if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sending a email is easy, then what is difficult into doing both ?
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree that it is only logical to contribute by e-mailing the packager
+</I>&gt;<i> about an improvement need in the package, but some packagers don't want
+</I>&gt;<i> you e-mailing them about their package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As a community distro, we want to try to make it comfortable and easy
+</I>&gt;<i> for everyone to get involved.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Knowing that many packagers are not going to want you e-mailing them
+</I>&gt;<i> about their package, reduces the number of people that will take the
+</I>&gt;<i> time to e-mail them with such contribution. Of course what makes it
+</I>&gt;<i> easier for one, makes it harder for another, so there needs to be
+</I>&gt;<i> balance there. Sometimes our expectations are expecting too much from
+</I>&gt;<i> the other who is working a lot of thankless hours to keep the distro going.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's all about balance and efficiency, and making it easy for people to
+</I>&gt;<i> start contributing, and realizing that some jobs are more time consuming
+</I>&gt;<i> than we might think.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Developing systems and protocols help keep things running efficient, and
+</I>&gt;<i> moving forward.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Wayne Sallee
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">Wayne at WayneSallee.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+All of this talk about descriptions make it sound like there should be
+more of a formalized process whereby:
+
+* the packager gets the package ready
+
+*when the package is ready (in Cauldron) a message is sent out to a team
+of &quot;package description users&quot; who make arrangements for the updated
+description and translations to be included with the package
+
+* when the updated description and package are ready they are then
+processed as per usual
+
+I think that it is pretty clear that packagers don't really want to deal
+with updating description, but the users would like to have updated
+descriptions. So, what if there was a group of users in charge of
+updating the package descriptions/translations where needed? Would this
+work?
+
+Marc
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