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At present, package selection looks to me as an +</I>><i> > integral part of the system generation process, "burned" onto the +</I>><i> > installation media. Must that be so? has this question already been +</I>><i> > discussed? +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > Naively, I see an alternative: cut package selection into 2 parts: +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > (1) have system installation start by configuring a minimum set of +</I>><i> > packages, those that are strictly necessary to obtain a running system +</I>><i> > for the hardware and the desktop environment auto-detected / +</I>><i> > user-selected. +</I>><i> > +</I>><i> > (2) install additional packages that customise the system to the profile +</I>><i> > desired by the user only at the end of system generation - that could +</I>><i> > even be delayed to the time the system does its first bootstrap (that +</I>><i> > could still be done in a way that is transparent to users who want an +</I>><i> > out-of-the-box installation). +</I>><i> +</I>><i> With the current installer you can select "customize" (instead of +</I>><i> selecting KDE or GNOME) and uncheck all the options there when you +</I>><i> click next the installer will even give you options to: +</I>><i> - install/not-install X +</I>><i> - install/not-install suggested packages +</I>><i> - go with a really minimal system and not install even urpmi +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> So, either it's a new user, he can select KDE or GNOME; or it's an +</I>><i> advanced/experienced user, he can deselect all the packages he wants, +</I>><i> and go with a very minimal system to begin with and then add the bits +</I>><i> and pieces he wants. +</I> +It is good so far. + +(And maybe we could add LXDE or other light environment as option like KDE and +GNOME for a noob that want to try put life in his old computer but is scared +off from customised mode) + +But maybe there should be less packages included in the 2 or 3 complete +desktop alternatives, and instead after first desktop bootup open some noob +friendly program chooser/installer in accordance with Juergens part 2) above? + +But, it IS convenient for most users to have at least Firefox by default, and +this and that.. have to put the limit somewhere. Maybe the user should +choose office suite afterwards, email program, another browser, and be +presented simple methods to select CD burnig, music player, video editing, +gaming etc. + +But, that raises next question: should Mageia propose a short list of programs +we propose, and how should thoose be chosen? Then maybe user thinks, oh is +there so few program and not this progam X that I like, although Mageia do +have it, but he need to use the full installer to see them... + +Need to be crafted so it without clutter give noobs a clear wiew, but at the +same time encourages and makes possible to use the whole repos when he knows +what he is after. + +Maybe just simply add a "proposed programs" section to drakrpm, and make it +open it by default, and make drakrpm start upon desktop boot until user cliks +a box to have it not to. So the user get the best served in his face, +without limiting his choices, nor he need to know yet another app, and we +need not do much development for it. + +BTW, it should configure normal repos automatically, and it should be more +noob friendly to add, with exlanations, and a button from drakrpm dialog. +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002554.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002557.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2555">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2555">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2555">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2555">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |