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Magallón</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-discuss%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-discuss%5D%20Suggestions&In-Reply-To=%3C20101021005241.71b6b0b3%40werewolf.home%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions">jamagallon at ono.com + </A><BR> + <I>Thu Oct 21 00:52:41 CEST 2010</I> + <P><UL> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002532.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2531">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2531">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2531">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2531">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On Wed, 20 Oct 2010 17:22:25 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath <<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>> wrote: + +><i> 1. At Mandriva we already had different ISOs for 32- and 64-bit, which +</I>><i> we should do as well. So this question about the arch during +</I>><i> installation is obsolete. +</I>><i> +</I> +One idea about archs... + +Nowadays, all boxes are 64bit. Even a low-end netbook I bought recently +(aspireone 532h) has an Atom N450, which is 64 bit, and has 1Gb of +RAM. I think the user should not have to decide which ISO he has +to download. If he knows nothin, would not know the difference +between 32 and 64 bit. And if he is informed, he will always have +the doubt if he should install the 64 or the 32 bit version on +a core2 (do I have more than 3Gb ? will it be slower or faster ?). + +I think the 64 bit distro now works prefectly. The only things that +mainstream users always missed on 64 bits are java and flash, +and now you have both (well, flash 'square' is still rc, but...). + +I would do a couple things: +- pull a selector in the download site that allows the user to + select his CPU. Perhaps he doesn't know if it is 32 or 64 bits, + but sure he knows it is an Intel Core 2 Duo or a Pentium4 or + an Athlon X3. Send him to the 64 bit version unless it is a + pentium4 or lower. +- put a check in the 32 bit ISO that shows a BIG SCREEN in case + that the processor is 64 bit capable that says 'Sorry to have + wasted your bandwidth, but your box will run better with the + 64 bit version, you have a XXXXX Korethlon X7. Go mageia.org + and pick the best distro for your computer.' + +Guide people to 64 bits... +This is also a good impression for people, 'hey, I run exactly the +same system on my desktop than on my laptop...'. And nobody will +kill you with things like 'I added 4gb more RAM, it was cheap, +but Mageia dont see them!!!'. + +><i> 2. A difference between desktop/laptop/mobile should be on "task" +</I>><i> level like the meta-task scripts we had at Mandriva. I don't think +</I>><i> there should be a real special distribution for any purpose. There are +</I>><i> special Mandriva editions für netbooks (meego), for machines with +</I>><i> poor ressources (LXDE Edition), etc. Such special editions used to be +</I>><i> created by groups inside the community, we can do it likewise. +</I> +Even that are needed. In my N450 I run exactly the same soft than +in my desktop. I want firefox, claws, gcc, openoffice, gnome... +and all work perfectly. I used to run the same even on a N270 with +8Gb SSD. Why do you heed a special ISO to let the user install +LXDE ? At most, you could 'recommend' a desktop environment based +on hardware profile, but as I said I was perfectly happy running +a full gnome DE on the N270. +The limit is the size of the DVD media, sadly... +BTW, there are things that can be adapted to make the distro look +much better on low profile machines, for example, forget +compiz and set byt default metacity 'compositing_manager' flag. +It makes your netbook look awesome and is fast, even on i915. +Try it. I never went back to compiz again, I just like window +shadows. + +Things like MeeGo are apart, that is a special environment nearer +to Android that to a standard linux install. + +><i> +</I>><i> So, my vote goes to the "one Mageia edition" solution with room for +</I>><i> any other special enhancements to be created by community groups like +</I>><i> the XFCE group, the LXDE group (MUD), the Meego group, etc. At least +</I>><i> for the start. If we have the ressources and if there is a demand for +</I>><i> such special editions we can see to that later after the main +</I>><i> distribution is rolling. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> BTW: "Mobile Linux" for mobile phones is Android and I don't think +</I>><i> anyone could beat that on the market. We should not bother with that. +</I> +And I dont think no 'standard user' is going to break his Galaxy Tab. + +-- +J.A. Magallon <jamagallon()ono!com> \ Software is like sex: + \ It's better when it's free +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002532.html">[Mageia-discuss] Suggestions +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2531">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2531">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2531">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2531">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">More information about the Mageia-discuss +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |