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+ <B>Oliver Burger</B>
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+ <I>Wed Oct 6 08:58:22 CEST 2010</I>
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+<PRE>&quot;Romain d'Alverny&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; schrieb am 2010-10-06
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 20:42, Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-discuss">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; In technical things I support two or more levels. There's much to learn
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for little community packagers as myself as there is in any field for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the newcommers.
+</I>&gt;<i> But in last resort, not only involved, but committed people get a
+</I>&gt;<i> decisive voice. In teams, those committed people are those who were
+</I>&gt;<i> recognized as such by their peers, through the mentoring process.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Which process is not an exclusive one (keep &quot;bad&quot; newcomers out), but
+</I>&gt;<i> an inclusive one (welcome and train them before they get full hands on
+</I>&gt;<i> the infrastructure). And that, again, wouldn't prevent non-'masters'
+</I>&gt;<i> and 'non-apprentices' to provide/contribute something to the project,
+</I>&gt;<i> only should it be reviewed and committed to the project by those team
+</I>&gt;<i> members.
+</I>As said before. There is no problem with having &quot;masters&quot; and &quot;padawans&quot; (I
+would prefer that term to apprentice :D ) when it comestotechnical decisions.
+I hope that all (orat least most) people involvedin mageia will let the people
+with the technical knowledge do the technical decisions (althoug some
+discussions on the mls do read different).
+I do understand and support the need for reviewing the work ofnew packagers,
+correcting it and teaching those new packagers how to build better packages
+but that is - as I said - a technical decision, in which nothing at all can be
+said against a master-padawan-thing. Even if those new packagers have
+builtrpms for years (because I have seen quite some rpms fromlocal communities
+whose spec files made me shudder).
+But I do believe, when it comes to policy decisions (like electing board
+members and so on) there should not be those who have a vote and those
+whodoesn't. Certainly there must be some kind of differentiation between active
+community members and passers-by who just want to &quot;troll vote&quot;. But as you
+described it initially, a majority of the active community members (like those
+poor folks who did community work for years now in their local communities)
+would be excluded from deciding the directionthe community as a whole does
+take.
+
+Oliver
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