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And we NEED to reduce this number. So let's only +</I>><i> decide if DVD keeps without nonfree or not. A poll? Both choices will +</I>><i> keep the same numbers of medias. +</I>><i> +</I> +Sorry, my response got somewhat easy to misunderstand :) + +I meant it only as a response to the: +"it seems much less likely that 64-bit users will have the download +bandwidth problems of many 32-bit users." + +><i> As far as I can see, the easiest way to REDUCE media number is to switch +</I>><i> Live medias from 700MB to at most DVD size : +</I>><i> +</I>><i> - It removes the different localized version, it is 40% medias less. +</I>><i> - It does not remove ALL CD-R solutions, as we long as keep DualArch and +</I>><i> boot.iso media. +</I>><i> - It fits in most current USB keys (4GB is the lowest size I can see in +</I>><i> shops). +</I>><i> +</I> +But many people have only 1-2GB sticks they could re-use ... +Not everyone can go out and buy new hw all the time... + +And the downside of getting bigger live images is that they +do get slower to boot... + +><i> Yes, it removes supports for some old hardware solutions, which I +</I>><i> install often, but we can't keep testing 19 medias. We have still lack +</I>><i> of QA people! +</I>><i> +</I> +Yes, I know... I've been doing ISO qa :) +we do need to reduce the media sets... +which is why I earlier in this thread suggested: +- 1 i586 GNOME english liveCD ("works everywhere") +- 1 i586 KDE english liveCD ("works everywhere") + +- 1 i586 GNOME all-lang liveDVD +- 1 i586 KDE all-lang liveDVD + +- 1 x86_64 GNOME all-lang liveDVD +- 1 x86_64 KDE all-lang liveDVD + +That would bring the live* media down from 16 -> 6 + + +And as data point... +With current mga2 livecd package config, building a liveDVD for one +arch/DE results in a liveDVD image with ~ 1GB image size + + +If we squash more than one DE on the same liveDVD there will be some +questions: + +- Which DM will we use ? GDM? KDM? XDM? ...? + +Then we get the complaints: +- "why should I need to download KDE stuff when I want GNOME"? +- "why should I need to download GNOME stuff when I want KDE"? +- "why ..." + +and the technical side: +- stuffing more than one DE on liveDVDs means altering build process, + also giving more problem for little if any gain.... +- every DE on liveDVDs still need to be validated, so no less testing/QA +- it means testing G/K/XDM starting GNOME/KDE/... so no less testing/QA +- ... + +-- + +Thomas + + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="018877.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 final set of isos +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="018884.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 3 final set of isos +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#18878">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#18878">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#18878">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#18878">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |