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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Deprecating pm-utils</H1>
+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Luc Menut at 22/10/12 22:57 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Le 17/10/2012 00:04, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've already dropped the requirement from upower and I suspect that kde
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> these days also uses upower for suspend/resume (can someone please test
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for me? Just remove pm-utils with --nodeps and make sure everything
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> still works is a nice easy test :D)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> upower 0.9.18 still requires pm-utils for some features:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - up_backend_supports_sleep_state (src/linux/up-backend.c line 360)
+</I>&gt;<i> calls /usr/bin/pm-is-supported to determine if suspend or hibernate are
+</I>&gt;<i> available on the system. upower uses this to reply to dbus call on
+</I>&gt;<i> org.freedesktop.UPower.CanSuspend or .CanHibernate.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Without pm-utils, org.freedesktop.UPower.CanSuspend or .CanHibernate
+</I>&gt;<i> always return false.
+</I>&gt;<i> At startup, KDE asks org.freedesktop.UPower.CanSuspend and .CanHibernate
+</I>&gt;<i> to know if, respectively, suspend and hibernate are possible on the
+</I>&gt;<i> system. So, without pm-utils installed, suspend and hibernate entries
+</I>&gt;<i> are not available in KDE's menus and applets (it's needed to reboot
+</I>&gt;<i> after the removal of pm-utils).
+</I>
+Good catch. Seems like it should be asking logind for this info these days.
+
+I think Gnome asks logind directly rather than going via upower, but if
+the interface exists it should work!
+
+&gt;<i> - up_backend_get_powersave_command (src/linux/up-backend.c line 615)
+</I>&gt;<i> calls /usr/sbin/pm-powersave to apply powersave's adjustments.
+</I>
+Cool. I'll take a look and see what is needed here.
+
+&gt;<i> So, we should re-add the Requires pm-utils in upower for now (btw,
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora still has this requirement).
+</I>
+Well I believe their plan is still to remove it, so let's see if we can
+help this process along. If it's not possible before mga3, then yeah,
+adding the require back to upower makes sense (perhaps even with a
+stripped down pm-utils package).
+
+Col
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
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