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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Problem with Totem packages?</H1>
+ <B>Robert Fox</B>
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+ <I>Wed Nov 21 16:26:13 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Mi, 2012-11-21 at 15:50 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2012/11/21 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 02:32:32PM +0100, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Le mercredi 21 novembre 2012 13:29:26, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 02:11:40AM +0100, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; If we want a full usable distro out the box, VLC must be the default
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; &gt; choice for all videos and then Totem could be removed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Which desktop are you using? VLC is IMO terrible, but I don't see why
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; application defaults should be the same across desktops. Totem under
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; anything other than GNOME: who cares? Maybe for XFCE VLC is a better fit
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; or something.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; VLC works with any destop and any OS.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Most of people coming from Windows already use VLC.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; LibreOffice, Firefox, Thunderbird and VLC are the most universal applications.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; They allow easy migrations from Microsoft.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; However, I prefer Konqueror and kmail in a KDE environment.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; You really like VLC :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If there is no KDE mediaplayer, then maybe file a bug. Totem in KDE is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; not the best match.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Neither is dragon player nor is totem a good thing in Gnome.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Both application suffer from the same cause: as soon as we enter the
+</I>&gt;<i> video section we also become victims of the free/non-free/tainted
+</I>&gt;<i> issue. Result: totem as well as dragon player as provided by the free
+</I>&gt;<i> DVD are not able to play any kind of video, unless you install certain
+</I>&gt;<i> plugins. Now the direct issue is, how both applications deal with
+</I>&gt;<i> this. None of both is able to list all necessary plugins to play the
+</I>&gt;<i> wanted video - it's always the dance &quot;a plugin is missing!&quot; - &quot;Which
+</I>&gt;<i> plugin?&quot; then a forum helper tells you about one plugin, you install
+</I>&gt;<i> it, restart totem and - Bang! - it kills you with another &quot;A plugin is
+</I>&gt;<i> missing!&quot;. Do that 3 times and maybe it works for this one video,
+</I>&gt;<i> coming back with the next video format. Same with dragon player.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's an upstream issue all right, but why is it not possible to
+</I>&gt;<i> include a function which lists ALL needed plugins, so you can install
+</I>&gt;<i> all of them? Or even better, a meta-package for those who want it all,
+</I>&gt;<i> which installs all available plugins for video play? I understand the
+</I>&gt;<i> reasons why they can not be installed automatically, but it would be a
+</I>&gt;<i> great step forward if all needed plugins can be installed in ONE step.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Apart from that and not judging by look&amp;feel, vlc really is the best
+</I>&gt;<i> when it comes to playing media.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I second that last comment!
+
+Cheers,
+R.Fox
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