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In fact, systemd has +</I>>>><i> changed the shutdown behaviour. The good patch would be to make him sync +</I>>>><i> the hwclock at shutdown, as we have no bugs because of this sysvinit +</I>>>><i> behaviour. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> There are real problems related to this as described upstream. Without a +</I>>><i> proper ntp implementation doing the time sync we have *no* idea that +</I>>><i> what we are doing is correct. If this is a dual boot system we could be +</I>>><i> clobbering the RTC without any knowledge that what we are doing is +</I>>><i> vaguely valid. So no, I will not entertain adding the sync hwclock stuff +</I>>><i> back. That is broken. What is also broken is that e2fsk uses the time as +</I>>><i> anything to complain about. None of the other fsck implementations do +</I>>><i> this AFAIK. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> So I stand by my original assertion that the change is valid and should +</I>>><i> be included. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I stand to my position: it doesn't fix any issue on Mageia. +</I>><i> You don't have any bug report to prove the contraty. +</I> +I've quoted a bug report and I have several VMs in a state where the +problem exists and it's sovled by this change. + +Also a problem on Fedora (this is where the fix came from in the first +place): <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748920">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=748920</A> + +It is a REAL problem. I cannot understand why there is such opposition +to this change? + + +><i> You I doubt you can find one since we make the Drakx +</I>><i> installer prevent fsck to use time or mount count to +</I>><i> cause a fsck (at least on journalized systems) for years +</I> +This is nothing to do with the installer or the filesystem +setup/configuration. In your quote from earlier: + +sub disable_forced_fsck { + my ($dev) = @_; + run_program::run("tune2fs", "-c0", "-i0", devices::make($dev)); +} + +the -c option is related to mount counts and -i option is to do with +interval between checks. This is NOT related to this issue. This issue +is about when the RTC is different to the time recorded in the latest +superblock. It's nothing to do with an interval between checks. + +Col + +-- + +Colin Guthrie +colin(at)mageia.org +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> + PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> + Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="015221.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: e2fsprogs +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="015233.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: e2fsprogs +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#15222">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#15222">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#15222">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#15222">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |