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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+sorry to bother you with this, but could you have a look at Bug 107?
+Or ask someone else from our KDE guys to do so. I'd like to resolve it 
+for good and I can't do without a workarround for KDE.
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi Mikala,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> sorry to bother you with this, but could you have a look at Bug 107?
+</I>&gt;<i> Or ask someone else from our KDE guys to do so. I'd like to resolve it for
+</I>&gt;<i> good and I can't do without a workarround for KDE.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+mikala is kinda absent since some days now because of personal issues,
+I'm helping him with some pending stuff he needed help with. If you
+tell me what  do you need from KDE team maybe I can help you ?
+
+Cheers,
+-- 
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+    <B>You-Cheng Hsieh</B> 
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+
+Was the fontconfig rules of google droid fonts used for any specific purpose?
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/google-droid-fonts/current/SOURCES/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/google-droid-fonts/current/SOURCES/</A>
+
+There is a Mageia1/cauldron bug which might be involved with those
+fontconfig rules:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751</A>
+
+Currently, with these config present, libreoffice cannot show proper
+font fallback while typing Chinese characters.
+
+By removing these config files, the problem is reduced to only happen
+in Droid Sans. If there's no other regressions or side-effects, please
+consider removing these fontconfig rules and rebuild
+google-droid-fonts for mageia 1 core update &amp; caldron.
+
+Thanks.
+</PRE>
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 1:42 AM, Oliver Burger&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Mikala,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sorry to bother you with this, but could you have a look at Bug 107?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Or ask someone else from our KDE guys to do so. I'd like to resolve it for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> good and I can't do without a workarround for KDE.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mikala is kinda absent since some days now because of personal issues,
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm helping him with some pending stuff he needed help with. If you
+</I>&gt;<i> tell me what  do you need from KDE team maybe I can help you ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well, I would need aworking solution so the icon  cache does get 
+regenerated on installing the desktop-common-data update on Mga1.
+The update does work on all other desktops, only KDE keeps the old 
+icons, because they are stored in the user's cache as described on that bug.
+
+Oliver
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Well, I would need aworking solution so the icon &#160;cache does get regenerated
+</I>&gt;<i> on installing the desktop-common-data update on Mga1.
+</I>&gt;<i> The update does work on all other desktops, only KDE keeps the old icons,
+</I>&gt;<i> because they are stored in the user's cache as described on that bug.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Ok, I just finished reading all the bug comments. I'll start looking
+at this tomorrow (2:20 am here :P).
+
+cheers,
+-- 
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 07:04, You-Cheng Hsieh &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yochenhsieh at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Was the fontconfig rules of google droid fonts used for any specific purpose?
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/google-droid-fonts/current/SOURCES/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/google-droid-fonts/current/SOURCES/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is a Mageia1/cauldron bug which might be involved with those
+</I>&gt;<i> fontconfig rules:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Currently, with these config present, libreoffice cannot show proper
+</I>&gt;<i> font fallback while typing Chinese characters.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> By removing these config files, the problem is reduced to only happen
+</I>&gt;<i> in Droid Sans. If there's no other regressions or side-effects, please
+</I>&gt;<i> consider removing these fontconfig rules and rebuild
+</I>&gt;<i> google-droid-fonts for mageia 1 core update &amp; caldron.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>
+I don't know anything about fontconfig but can removing those parts be enough?
+
+4	  &lt;alias&gt;
+5	    &lt;family&gt;monospace&lt;/family&gt;
+6	    &lt;prefer&gt;
+7	      &lt;family&gt;Droid Sans Mono&lt;/family&gt;
+8	    &lt;/prefer&gt;
+9	  &lt;/alias&gt;
+
+140	  &lt;alias&gt;
+141	    &lt;family&gt;sans-serif&lt;/family&gt;
+142	    &lt;prefer&gt;
+143	      &lt;family&gt;Droid Sans&lt;/family&gt;
+144	    &lt;/prefer&gt;
+145	  &lt;/alias&gt;
+
+4	  &lt;alias&gt;
+5	    &lt;family&gt;serif&lt;/family&gt;
+6	    &lt;prefer&gt;
+7	      &lt;family&gt;Droid Serif&lt;/family&gt;
+8	    &lt;/prefer&gt;
+9	  &lt;/alias&gt;
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+    <B>You-Cheng Hsieh</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/1 Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 07:04, You-Cheng Hsieh &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yochenhsieh at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Was the fontconfig rules of google droid fonts used for any specific purpose?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/google-droid-fonts/current/SOURCES/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/google-droid-fonts/current/SOURCES/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is a Mageia1/cauldron bug which might be involved with those
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fontconfig rules:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Currently, with these config present, libreoffice cannot show proper
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> font fallback while typing Chinese characters.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> By removing these config files, the problem is reduced to only happen
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in Droid Sans. If there's no other regressions or side-effects, please
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> consider removing these fontconfig rules and rebuild
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> google-droid-fonts for mageia 1 core update &amp; caldron.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know anything about fontconfig but can removing those parts be enough?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 140 &#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;alias&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> 141 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;family&gt;sans-serif&lt;/family&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> 142 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;prefer&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> 143 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;family&gt;Droid Sans&lt;/family&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> 144 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;/prefer&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> 145 &#160; &#160; &#160; &lt;/alias&gt;
+</I>Thanks, that should do the same.
+Problem still happen while user typing Chinese with Droid Sans, but at
+least writer is now usable.
+
+Google-droid-fonts is a maintained package so we should wait for
+Dmorgan to respond?
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+    <B>Remco Rijnders</B> 
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+Looking at a recent bugreport [1] I see that /etc/profile sources 
+everything under /etc/profile.d/*.sh no matter what shell is being used. 
+In this case this resulted in a small annoyance for the user as one of the 
+scripts under there uses a bashishm that's not supported in all shells we 
+ship.
+
+Some questions I have on this is:
+
+Is this really the correct way to do this? If not, how should this be 
+fixed? If it is, why do we often also put the .csh script there if they 
+are never picked up? (Or are they picked up through a different 
+mechanism?).
+
+Thanks,
+
+Remmy
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 11:12:36AM +0100, Remco Rijnders wrote:
+&gt;<i> Looking at a recent bugreport [1] I see that /etc/profile sources
+</I>&gt;<i> everything under /etc/profile.d/*.sh no matter what shell is being
+</I>&gt;<i> used. In this case this resulted in a small annoyance for the user
+</I>&gt;<i> as one of the scripts under there uses a bashishm that's not
+</I>&gt;<i> supported in all shells we ship.
+</I>
+Those scripts should only use &quot;sh&quot; compatible things. Relying on bash
+features is a bug (extension is .sh, not .bash).
+
+-- 
+Regards,
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/1 Pascal Terjan&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 07:04, You-Cheng Hsieh&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yochenhsieh at gmail.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Was the fontconfig rules of google droid fonts used for any specific purpose?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/google-droid-fonts/current/SOURCES/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/google-droid-fonts/current/SOURCES/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There is a Mageia1/cauldron bug which might be involved with those
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> fontconfig rules:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=751</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Currently, with these config present, libreoffice cannot show proper
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> font fallback while typing Chinese characters.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> By removing these config files, the problem is reduced to only happen
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in Droid Sans. If there's no other regressions or side-effects, please
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> consider removing these fontconfig rules and rebuild
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> google-droid-fonts for mageia 1 core update&amp;  caldron.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't know anything about fontconfig but can removing those parts be enough?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 140&lt;alias&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 141&lt;family&gt;sans-serif&lt;/family&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 142&lt;prefer&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 143&lt;family&gt;Droid Sans&lt;/family&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 144&lt;/prefer&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 145&lt;/alias&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks, that should do the same.
+</I>&gt;<i> Problem still happen while user typing Chinese with Droid Sans, but at
+</I>&gt;<i> least writer is now usable.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Google-droid-fonts is a maintained package so we should wait for
+</I>&gt;<i> Dmorgan to respond?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Here <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/maintdb.txt</A>
+
+I read it is not maintained:
+
+google-droid-fonts nobody
+
+
+
+
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+    <B>Frank Griffin</B> 
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+<PRE>On 03/01/2012 05:20 AM, Olav Vitters wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 11:12:36AM +0100, Remco Rijnders wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Looking at a recent bugreport [1] I see that /etc/profile sources
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> everything under /etc/profile.d/*.sh no matter what shell is being
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> used. In this case this resulted in a small annoyance for the user
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as one of the scripts under there uses a bashishm that's not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> supported in all shells we ship.
+</I>&gt;<i> Those scripts should only use &quot;sh&quot; compatible things. Relying on bash
+</I>&gt;<i> features is a bug (extension is .sh, not .bash).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>IIRC there was a concerted effort in the Mandriva days to eliminate 
+bashisms in init scripts because (pre-systemd) there was a move to 
+replace bash with dash for initscripts.  Backsliding ?
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> IIRC there was a concerted effort in the Mandriva days to eliminate
+</I>&gt;<i> bashisms in init scripts because (pre-systemd) there was a move to
+</I>&gt;<i> replace bash with dash for initscripts.  Backsliding ?
+</I>
+IIRC there is a tool which checks for bash-isms. Could you file a bug
+against the buildsystem that this is enforced for /etc/profile.d after
+Mageia 2?
+
+One time efforts is nice, but need also to have checks in place so that
+the quality stays high.
+
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+    <B>Frank Griffin</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 06:59:56AM -0500, Frank Griffin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IIRC there was a concerted effort in the Mandriva days to eliminate
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bashisms in init scripts because (pre-systemd) there was a move to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> replace bash with dash for initscripts.  Backsliding ?
+</I>&gt;<i> IIRC there is a tool which checks for bash-isms. Could you file a bug
+</I>&gt;<i> against the buildsystem that this is enforced for /etc/profile.d after
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One time efforts is nice, but need also to have checks in place so that
+</I>&gt;<i> the quality stays high.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I><A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4761">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4761</A>
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+    <B>Remco Rijnders</B> 
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">20120301130856.GB20566 at bkor.dhs.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>On Thu, Mar 01, 2012 at 06:59:56AM -0500, Frank Griffin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IIRC there was a concerted effort in the Mandriva days to eliminate
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bashisms in init scripts because (pre-systemd) there was a move to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> replace bash with dash for initscripts.  Backsliding ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>IIRC there is a tool which checks for bash-isms. Could you file a bug
+</I>&gt;<i>against the buildsystem that this is enforced for /etc/profile.d after
+</I>&gt;<i>Mageia 2?
+</I>
+Aptly called 'checkbashishms' :-)
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+    <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wednesday, February 22, 2012 02:28:25 AM Jerome Quelin wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 12/02/22 09:40 +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It's still a requirement of Scribus (there is an upstream bug) and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; PHP (Thomas is having look) + Perl (there are bugs against Jerome's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages) modules.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> perl-Test-Spelling has been taken care of.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> perl-Padre-Plugin-SpellCheck is currently being worked upon upstream,
+</I>&gt;<i> i'll update it as soon as it's done.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> perl-Lingua-Ispell needs to be obsoleted, but i cannot find a
+</I>&gt;<i> task-obsolete package as we talked about - any news about this?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> j&#233;r&#244;me
+</I>
+I built php without pspell and added php-pspell to Obsoletes.
+If this creates havoc, can can revert the change.
+We may need to rebuild enchant, but I haven't seen any replies fom the 
+maintainer.
+
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+Thomas Spuhler
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.">mageia at colin.guthr.ie
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+Recently (last couple days) I've been seeing this kind of error/debug
+when running rpm manually from the command line:
+
+Freeing read locks for locker 0x809: 23048/140698330855168
+
+It's generally repeated over and over.
+
+Anyone else see this?
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Recently (last couple days) I've been seeing this kind of error/debug
+</I>&gt;<i> when running rpm manually from the command line:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Freeing read locks for locker 0x809: 23048/140698330855168
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's generally repeated over and over.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Anyone else see this?
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+Yes I've seen this for monthes when some rpm command was
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+This is just rpm cleaning /var/lib/rpm/_db* after such
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+I know that certain libraries are executable, like libc, but i figure that this 
+is rather the exception rather than the rule.
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+I wonder if we should have some kind of policy about this?
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+I can be wrong, but i didn't think it's necessary to make libraries as 
+executable?
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+[...]
+
+forgot to add my counts from my system:
+
+[ ]$ find -L /lib /lib64 /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -iname &quot;*.so&quot; -executable | sort | 
+uniq | wc -l
+4113
+[ ]$ find -L /lib /lib64 /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -iname &quot;*.so&quot; | sort | uniq | wc -
+l
+4147
+[ ]$ find -L /lib /lib64 /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -iname &quot;*.so&quot; -not -executable | 
+sort | uniq | wc -l
+34
+
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+hmm, only 34 not marked as executable?
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> I noticed that on my system, some libraries are marked executable and others
+</I>&gt;<i> aren't.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know that certain libraries are executable, like libc, but i figure that this
+</I>&gt;<i> is rather the exception rather than the rule.
+</I>
+Yes but I think all c/c++ libs are generated with execution permission
+
+&gt;<i> I wonder if we should have some kind of policy about this?
+</I>
+I don't think so
+
+&gt;<i> I can be wrong, but i didn't think it's necessary to make libraries as
+</I>&gt;<i> executable?
+</I>
+For most of them it is not useful
+
+&gt;<i> I don't want any bikeshedding, but what do you think? is such a policy useful?
+</I>&gt;<i> or not?
+</I>
+I would say it doesn't matter and would not spend any time on it
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+&gt;<i> I would say it doesn't matter and would not spend any time on it
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+ok, thanks for your pov
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+&gt;<i> I would say it doesn't matter and would not spend any time on it
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+/usr/lib/rpm/mageia/find-debuginfo.sh:
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+# Strip ELF binaries
+find &quot;$RPM_BUILD_ROOT&quot; ! -path &quot;${debugdir}/*.debug&quot; -type f \
+                     \( -perm -0100 -or -perm -0010 -or -perm -0001 \) \
+                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+                     -print |
+file -N -f - | sed -n -e 's/^\(.*\):[   ]*.*ELF.*, not stripped/\1/p' |
+xargs --no-run-if-empty stat -c '%h %D_%i %n' |
+while read nlinks inum f; do
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+Looks like debug packages and/or stripping won't work for non-executable
+shared libraries.
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+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 22:22:37 schreef Maarten Vanraes:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> forgot to add my counts from my system:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [ ]$ find -L /lib /lib64 /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -iname &quot;*.so&quot; -executable | sort |
+</I>&gt;<i> uniq | wc -l
+</I>&gt;<i> 4113
+</I>&gt;<i> [ ]$ find -L /lib /lib64 /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -iname &quot;*.so&quot; | sort | uniq | wc -
+</I>&gt;<i> l
+</I>&gt;<i> 4147
+</I>&gt;<i> [ ]$ find -L /lib /lib64 /usr/lib /usr/lib64 -iname &quot;*.so&quot; -not -executable |
+</I>&gt;<i> sort | uniq | wc -l
+</I>&gt;<i> 34
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> hmm, only 34 not marked as executable?
+</I>Check .jar files now...
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+&gt;<i> 01.03.2012 23:36, Pascal Terjan kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I would say it doesn't matter and would not spend any time on it
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/lib/rpm/mageia/find-debuginfo.sh:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> # Strip ELF binaries
+</I>&gt;<i> find &quot;$RPM_BUILD_ROOT&quot; ! -path &quot;${debugdir}/*.debug&quot; -type f \
+</I>&gt;<i>                      \( -perm -0100 -or -perm -0010 -or -perm -0001 \) \
+</I>&gt;<i>                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+</I>&gt;<i>                      -print |
+</I>&gt;<i> file -N -f - | sed -n -e 's/^\(.*\):[   ]*.*ELF.*, not stripped/\1/p' |
+</I>&gt;<i> xargs --no-run-if-empty stat -c '%h %D_%i %n' |
+</I>&gt;<i> while read nlinks inum f; do
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Looks like debug packages and/or stripping won't work for non-executable
+</I>&gt;<i> shared libraries.
+</I>
+hmm, there's a '!' there, so isn't it reverse then?
+
+but if this only works with executable libraries, (kind of weird imho), there 
+are at least 34 libraries on my system not marked as executable...
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+does this mean debug info fails for these?
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+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 22:54:59 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 01.03.2012 23:36, Pascal Terjan kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I would say it doesn't matter and would not spend any time on it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/lib/rpm/mageia/find-debuginfo.sh:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # Strip ELF binaries
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> find &quot;$RPM_BUILD_ROOT&quot; ! -path &quot;${debugdir}/*.debug&quot; -type f \
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>                      \( -perm -0100 -or -perm -0010 -or -perm -0001 \) \
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>                      -print |
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> file -N -f - | sed -n -e 's/^\(.*\):[   ]*.*ELF.*, not stripped/\1/p' |
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> xargs --no-run-if-empty stat -c '%h %D_%i %n' |
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> while read nlinks inum f; do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Looks like debug packages and/or stripping won't work for non-executable
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shared libraries.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> hmm, there's a '!' there, so isn't it reverse then?
+</I>
+It reverses the -path rule only.
+
+&gt;<i> but if this only works with executable libraries, (kind of weird imho), there 
+</I>&gt;<i> are at least 34 libraries on my system not marked as executable...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> does this mean debug info fails for these?
+</I>
+I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping stuff
+works exactly), but I think either a) debug symbols extraction and thus
+-debug packaging, b) stripping, or c) both will fail with non-executable
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 21:22, Maarten Vanraes&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I noticed that on my system, some libraries are marked executable and others
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> aren't.
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I know that certain libraries are executable, like libc, but i figure that this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is rather the exception rather than the rule.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes but I think all c/c++ libs are generated with execution permission
+</I>That's automake/libtool standard behaviour, indeed.
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+[...]
+&gt;<i> &gt; does this mean debug info fails for these?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> works exactly), but I think either a) debug symbols extraction and thus
+</I>&gt;<i> -debug packaging, b) stripping, or c) both will fail with non-executable
+</I>&gt;<i> shared libs.
+</I>
+in that case i guess we would need a policy or bs check to make sure we don't 
+fail some libraries debug and strip
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+    <B>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 23:05:35 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; does this mean debug info fails for these?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping stuff
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> works exactly), but I think either a) debug symbols extraction and thus
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -debug packaging, b) stripping, or c) both will fail with non-executable
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shared libs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> in that case i guess we would need a policy or bs check to make sure we don't
+</I>&gt;<i> fail some libraries debug and strip
+</I>rpmlint already has a check for unstripped files at least.. :)
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 23:37:02 schreef Per &#216;yvind Karlsen:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rpmlint already has a check for unstripped files at least.. :)
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+</I>No.
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+</I>You may also want to read <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=787">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=787</A> 
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+license or rather the manual wording re. it's use before submitting.
+It is all explained in <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1634">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1634</A> 
+where I have also temporarily linked to copies of the rpms which are 
+very small.
+It's probably quicker to install it and read the manual rather than 
+digging in the sources.
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+    <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> 
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+&gt;<i> I have uploaded fatback to svn but would like a review regarding the 
+</I>&gt;<i> license or rather the manual wording re. it's use before submitting.
+</I>
+I did a &quot;grep -i license&quot; and found that everywhere where the GPL is mentioned, which is 5 files and the COPYING, is version 2, not v1 as you have in the spec License tag. You should fix that.
+
+As to the wording in the manual, here are my thoughts on this.
+Either it is in the Public domain, or it is not. They can't put it in the public domain /and/ place restrictions on who can use it.
+Besides, works of the US Government isn't protected by Copyrights.
+<A HREF="http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/105">http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/105</A>
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+Debian have decided to exclude it due to it's unresolved status.
+<A HREF="http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/forensics-devel/2010-January/001527.html">http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/forensics-devel/2010-January/001527.html</A>
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+&quot;Johnny A. Solbu&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cooker at solbu.net</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> &gt; I have uploaded fatback to svn but would like a review regarding
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the license or rather the manual wording re. it's use before
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; submitting.  
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I did a &quot;grep -i license&quot; and found that everywhere where the GPL is
+</I>&gt;<i> mentioned, which is 5 files and the COPYING, is version 2, not v1 as
+</I>&gt;<i> you have in the spec License tag. You should fix that.
+</I>
+
+Did you look at COPYING?
+
+As a header above the GPLv2 license:
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+********************************************
+* NOTICE:
+* The following license applies only to the 
+* files getopt.c, getopt.h, and getopt1.c.
+* these are borrowed from glibc.
+* This licence does not in any way apply
+* to the remainder of the fatback program
+*********************************************
+
+Because of the dubious/uncertain license for &quot;the remainder of the
+fatback program&quot; I feel that the same course as debian would be the
+most prudent action.
+
+
+    Charles
+
+-- 
+Learning French is trivial: the word for horse is cheval, and
+everything else follows in the same way.
+		-- Alan J. Perlis
+----------------------
+Mageia release 2 (Cauldron) for x86_64$
+On SuperSize....<A HREF="http://www.eslrahc.com">http://www.eslrahc.com</A>
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+&gt;<i> Did you look at COPYING?
+</I>
+I did, yes.
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+&gt;<i> As a header above the GPLv2 license:
+</I>
+And in the AUTHORS file it is written that the rest of the program is written by Nicholas Harbour of the DoD (Department of Defence) Computer Forensics Lab. E.G. the US Government. 
+Meaning, it is copyrighted by the US government. But there is no copyright /protection/ on the software, because it is the US government which holds the copyrights.
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+Is there any problem with i586 tainted repository? The build of ffmpeg
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
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+</I>&gt;<i> Is there any problem with i586 tainted repository? The build of ffmpeg
+</I>&gt;<i> and gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad has been stalled for hours.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>it fails because of this error :
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+Installation failed, some files are missing:
+    <A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/tainted/release/libfreetype6-2.4.8-2.mga2.tainted.i586.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/tainted/release/libfreetype6-2.4.8-2.mga2.tainted.i586.rpm</A>
+You may need to update your urpmi database.
+
+seems some rpms are missing ( there is no
+libfreetype6-2.4.8-2.mga2.tainted.i586.rpm ).
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+I just pushed a new rpm of freetype in tainted.
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+2012/3/2 D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is there any problem with i586 tainted repository? The build of ffmpeg
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad has been stalled for hours.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i> it fails because of this error :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Installation failed, some files are missing:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/tainted/release/libfreetype6-2.4.8-2.mga2.tainted.i586.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/tainted/release/libfreetype6-2.4.8-2.mga2.tainted.i586.rpm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> You may need to update your urpmi database.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> seems some rpms are missing ( there is no
+</I>&gt;<i> libfreetype6-2.4.8-2.mga2.tainted.i586.rpm ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just pushed a new rpm of freetype in tainted.
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+&gt;<i> The problem is, if BuildRequires are failed to install, will iurt try
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The problem is, if BuildRequires are failed to install, will iurt try
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+</I>&gt;<i> shouldn't, seems we have an issue here that we need to fix ( i though
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+now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
+loaded.
+
+checking in dmesg - I see that the nouveau driver grabs the card before
+the nvidia driver can - but trying to remove the nouveau driver wants to
+remove over 800 packages!
+
+How can I get the nvidia proprietary driver back??
+
+[   53.253035] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: Attempting to load BIOS image
+from PRAMIN
+[   53.298983] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: ... appears to be valid
+[   53.298987] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: BIT BIOS found
+[   53.298990] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: Bios version 62.94.20.00
+[   53.298993] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: TMDS table version 2.0
+[   53.298996] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: Found Display Configuration
+Block version 4.0
+[   53.298998] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: Raw DCB entry 0: 02000300
+00000028
+[   53.299013] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: Raw DCB entry 1: 01000302
+00020030
+[   53.299015] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: Raw DCB entry 2: 04011310
+00000028
+[   53.299019] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: Raw DCB entry 3: 02022332
+00020010
+[   53.299024] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: Raw DCB entry 4: 0000000e
+00000000
+[   53.299029] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: DCB connector table: VHER
+0x40 5 16 4
+[   53.299039] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0:   0: 0x00001030: type 0x30
+idx 0 tag 0x07
+[   53.299052] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0:   1: 0x00000100: type 0x00
+idx 1 tag 0xff
+[   53.299062] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0:   2: 0x00002261: type 0x61
+idx 2 tag 0x08
+[   53.299069] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 0 at
+offset 0xD21E
+[   53.324438] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 1 at
+offset 0xD633
+[   53.327051] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 2 at
+offset 0xE624
+[   53.327058] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 3 at
+offset 0xE76D
+[   53.328136] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 4 at
+offset 0xE9A9
+[   53.328140] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: Parsing VBIOS init table at
+offset 0xEA0E
+[   53.348146] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: 0xEA0E: Condition still not
+met after 20ms, skipping following opcodes
+[   53.366853] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: 1 available performance
+level(s)
+[   53.366858] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: 3: core 500MHz shader 1250MHz
+memory 500MHz voltage 1100mV fanspeed 100%
+[   53.366873] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: c: core 500MHz shader 1250MHz
+memory 499MHz voltage 1100mV
+[   53.368881] [TTM] Zone  kernel: Available graphics memory: 1543414
+kiB.
+[   53.368884] [TTM] Initializing pool allocator.
+[   53.368894] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: Detected 768MiB VRAM
+[   53.372117] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: 512 MiB GART (aperture)
+[   53.397649] [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 1
+(10.10.2010).
+[   53.397652] [drm] No driver support for vblank timestamp query.
+[   53.656361] [drm] nouveau 0000:04:00.0: allocated 1680x1050 fb:
+0x310000, bo ffff8800b1df9400
+[   53.656475] fbcon: nouveaufb (fb0) is primary device
+[   53.656688] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 210x65
+[   53.656694] fb0: nouveaufb frame buffer device
+[   53.656696] drm: registered panic notifier
+[   53.656703] [drm] Initialized nouveau 0.0.16 20090420 for
+0000:04:00.0 on minor 0
+[   56.018019] eth0: no IPv6 routers present
+[  112.967128] 2:2:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x4
+[  113.975124] 2:3:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x83
+[  115.031128] 2:3:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x83
+[  116.041124] 2:2:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x4
+[  117.054141] 2:3:1: cannot get freq at ep 0x83
+[  123.675318] process `skype' is using obsolete setsockopt SO_BSDCOMPAT
+[  243.059920] NVRM: The NVIDIA probe routine was not called for 1
+device(s).
+[  243.059923] NVRM: This can occur when a driver such as nouveau,
+rivafb,
+[  243.059924] NVRM: nvidiafb, or rivatv was loaded and obtained
+ownership of
+[  243.059925] NVRM: the NVIDIA device(s).
+[  243.059927] NVRM: Try unloading the conflicting kernel module (and/or
+[  243.059928] NVRM: reconfigure your kernel without the conflicting
+[  243.059929] NVRM: driver(s)), then try loading the NVIDIA kernel
+module
+[  243.059929] NVRM: again.
+[  243.059931] NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter probed!
+[  566.999504] NVRM: The NVIDIA probe routine was not called for 1
+device(s).
+[  566.999507] NVRM: This can occur when a driver such as nouveau,
+rivafb,
+[  566.999508] NVRM: nvidiafb, or rivatv was loaded and obtained
+ownership of
+[  566.999509] NVRM: the NVIDIA device(s).
+[  566.999511] NVRM: Try unloading the conflicting kernel module (and/or
+[  566.999512] NVRM: reconfigure your kernel without the conflicting
+[  566.999512] NVRM: driver(s)), then try loading the NVIDIA kernel
+module
+[  566.999513] NVRM: again.
+[  566.999515] NVRM: No NVIDIA graphics adapter probed!
+
+Thx,
+R.Fox
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+&gt;<i> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
+</I>&gt;<i> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
+</I>&gt;<i> loaded.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
++1
+Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add
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+nokmsboot
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+chris.
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+<PRE>On 02/03/12 06:17, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Friday 02 March 2012 06:52, Charles A Edwards wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Did you look at COPYING?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did, yes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As a header above the GPLv2 license:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And in the AUTHORS file it is written that the rest of the program is written by Nicholas Harbour of the DoD (Department of Defence) Computer Forensics Lab. E.G. the US Government.
+</I>&gt;<i> Meaning, it is copyrighted by the US government. But there is no copyright /protection/ on the software, because it is the US government which holds the copyrights.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I tend to agree, there should be no restriction on distribution, only a 
+possible question over it's use maybe in the USA. But that is down to 
+users to decide, just as with tainted etc.
+
+I have corrected the GPL version - thanks - no idea how that happened ;)
+
+I will await more comments.
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+    <B>Sander Lepik</B> 
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+According to <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development</A> we are 
+going to hit versions freeze pretty soon. Is it confirmed that it will 
+be March 7th? In this case we have the last weekend before freeze. And 
+weekend is for many packagers the only time to work on their packages.
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+Such dates should be announced in advance.
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hey!
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+</I>&gt;<i> According to <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development</A> we are 
+</I>&gt;<i> going to hit versions freeze pretty soon. Is it confirmed that it will 
+</I>&gt;<i> be March 7th? In this case we have the last weekend before freeze. And 
+</I>&gt;<i> weekend is for many packagers the only time to work on their packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Such dates should be announced in advance.
+</I>&gt;<i> -- 
+</I>&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>Is this hour 0:00 or 23:59 ? Paris time zone?
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 02.03.2012 14:52, Sander Lepik wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hey!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> According to <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development</A> we are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> going to hit versions freeze pretty soon. Is it confirmed that it will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be March 7th? In this case we have the last weekend before freeze. And
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> weekend is for many packagers the only time to work on their packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Such dates should be announced in advance.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;<i> Is this hour 0:00 or 23:59 ? Paris time zone?
+</I>Last year it was at the end of the packager meeting, meaning something 
+between 21.00 UTC and 21.30 UTC.
+
+And please people, it was announced as we did announce the whole 
+development planing months ago, didn't we?
+
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Am 02.03.2012 15:03, schrieb Kamil Rytarowski:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 02.03.2012 14:52, Sander Lepik wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hey!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> According to <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development</A> we are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> going to hit versions freeze pretty soon. Is it confirmed that it will
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be March 7th? In this case we have the last weekend before freeze. And
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> weekend is for many packagers the only time to work on their packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Such dates should be announced in advance.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -- 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is this hour 0:00 or 23:59 ? Paris time zone?
+</I>&gt;<i> Last year it was at the end of the packager meeting, meaning something
+</I>&gt;<i> between 21.00 UTC and 21.30 UTC.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And please people, it was announced as we did announce the whole
+</I>&gt;<i> development planing months ago, didn't we?
+</I>
+Yes, I think Sander just meant there should be a reminder (which he now
+did).
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+&gt;<i> Am 02.03.2012 15:03, schrieb Kamil Rytarowski:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 02.03.2012 14:52, Sander Lepik wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hey!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> According to <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development</A> we are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> going to hit versions freeze pretty soon. Is it confirmed that it will
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be March 7th? In this case we have the last weekend before freeze. And
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> weekend is for many packagers the only time to work on their packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Such dates should be announced in advance.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is this hour 0:00 or 23:59 ? Paris time zone?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Last year it was at the end of the packager meeting, meaning something
+</I>&gt;<i> between 21.00 UTC and 21.30 UTC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And please people, it was announced as we did announce the whole development
+</I>&gt;<i> planing months ago, didn't we?
+</I>
+And I saw it reminded in several places recently (like in some mail
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 23:05:35 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> does this mean debug info fails for these?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping stuff
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> works exactly), but I think either a) debug symbols extraction and thus
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -debug packaging, b) stripping, or c) both will fail with non-executable
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shared libs.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> in that case i guess we would need a policy or bs check to make sure we don't 
+</I>&gt;<i> fail some libraries debug and strip
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+Possibly.
+
+Interestingly, Debian policy disallows executable permission on shared libs:
+<A HREF="http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-runtime">http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-runtime</A>
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+&quot;Shared libraries should not be installed executable, since the dynamic
+linker does not require this and trying to execute a shared library
+usually results in a core dump.&quot;
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 14:07, Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 02.03.2012 15:03, schrieb Kamil Rytarowski:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 02.03.2012 14:52, Sander Lepik wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hey!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> According to <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development</A> we are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> going to hit versions freeze pretty soon. Is it confirmed that it will
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be March 7th? In this case we have the last weekend before freeze. And
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> weekend is for many packagers the only time to work on their packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Such dates should be announced in advance.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is this hour 0:00 or 23:59 ? Paris time zone?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Last year it was at the end of the packager meeting, meaning something
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> between 21.00 UTC and 21.30 UTC.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And please people, it was announced as we did announce the whole development
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> planing months ago, didn't we?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And I saw it reminded in several places recently (like in some mail
+</I>&gt;<i> before the beta)
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Am 02.03.2012 15:03, schrieb Kamil Rytarowski:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 02.03.2012 14:52, Sander Lepik wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hey!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> According to <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development</A> we are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> going to hit versions freeze pretty soon. Is it confirmed that it will
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be March 7th? In this case we have the last weekend before freeze. And
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> weekend is for many packagers the only time to work on their packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Such dates should be announced in advance.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is this hour 0:00 or 23:59 ? Paris time zone?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Last year it was at the end of the packager meeting, meaning something
+</I>&gt;<i> between 21.00 UTC and 21.30 UTC.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And please people, it was announced as we did announce the whole development
+</I>&gt;<i> planing months ago, didn't we?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Back in my school days when we had to do a home work project of 1
+month our teacher used to remind us the day before scheduled deadline
+- for people like me it meant to start working on the project!
+
+Some people may be like me...
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+&gt;<i> Back in my school days when we had to do a home work project of 1
+</I>&gt;<i> month our teacher used to remind us the day before scheduled deadline
+</I>&gt;<i> - for people like me it meant to start working on the project!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Some people may be like me...
+</I>
+Maybe we should have a policy on when to remind developers on version freezes.
+Say, one or two weeks before the freeze, so they get a chance to submit final changes.
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+Or do we have such a policy already?
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+&gt;<i> On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> loaded.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i> Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> nokmsboot
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> in the boot arguments?
+</I>
+Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to &quot;nouveau&quot;).
+Re-changed the display driver to &quot;nvidia&quot; and added nokmsboot to the
+boot args, next boot same pb again.
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/2 EatDirt &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dirteat at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; loaded.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; +1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; nokmsboot
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in the boot arguments?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to &quot;nouveau&quot;).
+</I>&gt;<i> Re-changed the display driver to &quot;nvidia&quot; and added nokmsboot to the
+</I>&gt;<i> boot args, next boot same pb again.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+I will file a bug report . . .
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 2012-03-02 at 16:44 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/2 EatDirt &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dirteat at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> loaded.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> nokmsboot
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in the boot arguments?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to &quot;nouveau&quot;).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Re-changed the display driver to &quot;nvidia&quot; and added nokmsboot to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> boot args, next boot same pb again.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I will file a bug report . . .
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+No need, there is already a report...
+And I'm looking into it...
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+--
+Thomas
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/2 EatDirt &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dirteat at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> loaded.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> nokmsboot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in the boot arguments?
+</I>&gt;<i> Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to &quot;nouveau&quot;).
+</I>&gt;<i> Re-changed the display driver to &quot;nvidia&quot; and added nokmsboot to the
+</I>&gt;<i> boot args, next boot same pb again.
+</I>+1
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+continuously - by dmesg I found out that it seems to be related to
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+Today I booted into that same Beta1 installation and wifi behaved
+correctly (coming up, staying up). A check with ping proved that
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+Then I did a 'urpmi --auto-update' which failed with the message, that
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+from using urpmi, udisks running lets me use urpmi (via cable
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+
+Xavier
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+Le 02/03/2012 17:27, Bertaux Xavier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 02/03/2012 16:44, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/2 EatDirt &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dirteat at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> loaded.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> nokmsboot
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in the boot arguments?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to &quot;nouveau&quot;).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Re-changed the display driver to &quot;nvidia&quot; and added nokmsboot to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> boot args, next boot same pb again.
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
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+&gt;<i> and I think both nvidia and fglrx tickets are the same problem
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Xavier
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 02/03/2012 17:27, Bertaux Xavier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 02/03/2012 16:44, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/2 EatDirt&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dirteat at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> loaded.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> nokmsboot
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in the boot arguments?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to &quot;nouveau&quot;).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Re-changed the display driver to &quot;nvidia&quot; and added nokmsboot to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> boot args, next boot same pb again.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Xavier
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>IIANM this is now the default behavior when the x11-server version is 
+updated to a version not supported by the current proprietary nvidia driver.
+It avoids a boot failure which would otherwise be the scenario.
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+&gt;<i> On 02/03/12 16:31, Bertaux Xavier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and I think both nvidia and fglrx tickets are the same problem
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Xavier
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 02/03/2012 17:27, Bertaux Xavier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 02/03/2012 16:44, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/2 EatDirt&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dirteat at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 02/03/12 09:38, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> loaded.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Recurrent pb for me as well. Did you try to add
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> nokmsboot
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in the boot arguments?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Same pb here, xorg.conf was changed (display driver changed to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;nouveau&quot;).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Re-changed the display driver to &quot;nvidia&quot; and added nokmsboot to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> boot args, next boot same pb again.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Xavier
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IIANM this is now the default behavior when the x11-server version is
+</I>&gt;<i> updated to a version not supported by the current proprietary nvidia driver.
+</I>&gt;<i> It avoids a boot failure which would otherwise be the scenario.
+</I>
+Reasonable behavior, so to avoid this the x11-server should always
+match the current proprietary driver. In other words: either one
+whould be fixed with coming updates.
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+should be fixed....
+Sorry.
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+<PRE>2012/3/2 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> In bug #4635 I described how wifi keeps connecting/disconnecting
+</I>&gt;<i> continuously - by dmesg I found out that it seems to be related to
+</I>&gt;<i> udisks (pls don't ask me how it may be related).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Today I booted into that same Beta1 installation and wifi behaved
+</I>&gt;<i> correctly (coming up, staying up). A check with ping proved that
+</I>&gt;<i> internet was accessibly.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then I did a 'urpmi --auto-update' which failed with the message, that
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;service udisks (udisks-daemon) is not running or not ready&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If my assumption in the first line of this mail is correct, then not
+</I>&gt;<i> having udisks running brings stable wifi connection but prevents me
+</I>&gt;<i> from using urpmi, udisks running lets me use urpmi (via cable
+</I>&gt;<i> connection) but not wifi.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry for all the assumptions - without more technical info I did not
+</I>&gt;<i> bring this to bugzilla.
+</I>
+Sorry for this - it was an assumprion and a wrong one.
+
+I forgot to remove the cdrom media from urpmi's list, so urpmi wanted
+to read the cdrom but couldn't.
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+Pls forget this dumb one
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+    <I>Fri Mar  2 18:26:56 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 04:20:53PM +0200, Anssi Hannula wrote:
+&gt;<i> Yes, I think Sander just meant there should be a reminder (which he now
+</I>&gt;<i> did).
+</I>
+GNOME has some really crappy schedule related scripts. One of them deals
+with sending reminder emails:
+<A HREF="http://git.gnome.org/browse/releng/tree/tools/schedule/">http://git.gnome.org/browse/releng/tree/tools/schedule/</A>
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+Everything in GNOME revolves around weeks, and the scripts assume that
+things always happen on a Mon. Still, could be useful.
+
+The reminders go to release-team, who then use it as a template to mail
+the developers (automatic mails are often ignored, we try and make
+things a bit more personal).
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+Example reminder mail:
+<A HREF="https://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2012-March/msg00003.html">https://mail.gnome.org/archives/release-team/2012-March/msg00003.html</A>
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+Regards,
+Olav
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+<PRE>01.03.2012 21:21, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Recently (last couple days) I've been seeing this kind of error/debug
+</I>&gt;<i> when running rpm manually from the command line:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Freeing read locks for locker 0x809: 23048/140698330855168
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It's generally repeated over and over.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyone else see this?
+</I>
+No, but I've just seen the below.
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+&quot;Muistin varaaminen ei onnistu&quot; ~= &quot;Unable to allocate memory&quot;
+&quot;Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata&quot; ~= &quot;Unable to open rpmdb&quot;
+
+&gt;<i> $ free
+</I>&gt;<i>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
+</I>&gt;<i> Mem:       8038808    7899056     139752          0      37356    1002064
+</I>&gt;<i> -/+ buffers/cache:    6859636    1179172
+</I>&gt;<i> Swap:      8388604    3731420    4657184
+</I>
+Should be enough, no?
+
+[... console scrollback was completely filled with these lines ...]
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: indeksin Group avaus db4:ll&#228; ei onnistu - Muistin varaaminen ei
+onnistu (12)
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: indeksin Triggername avaus db4:ll&#228; ei onnistu - Muistin
+varaaminen ei onnistu (12)
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: indeksin Dirnames avaus db4:ll&#228; ei onnistu - Muistin varaaminen
+ei onnistu (12)
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: indeksin Installtid avaus db4:ll&#228; ei onnistu - Muistin varaaminen
+ei onnistu (12)
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: indeksin Sigmd5 avaus db4:ll&#228; ei onnistu - Muistin varaaminen ei
+onnistu (12)
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: indeksin Sha1header avaus db4:ll&#228; ei onnistu - Muistin varaaminen
+ei onnistu (12)
+
+
+
+<A HREF="http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release/fglrx-kernel-desktop-latest-8.930-1.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm">http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release/fglrx-kernel-desktop-latest-8.930-1.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release/nvidia-current-kernel-3.2.9-desktop-1.mga2-290.10-15.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm">http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release/nvidia-current-kernel-3.2.9-desktop-1.mga2-290.10-15.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm</A>
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+<A HREF="http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release/fglrx-control-center-8.930-2.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm">http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release/fglrx-control-center-8.930-2.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm</A>
+
+
+<A HREF="http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release/nvidia-current-kernel-desktop-latest-290.10-15.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm">http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release/nvidia-current-kernel-desktop-latest-290.10-15.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm</A>
+
+
+<A HREF="http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release/x11-driver-video-fglrx-8.930-2.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm">http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release/x11-driver-video-fglrx-8.930-2.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm</A>
+
+
+<A HREF="http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release/nvidia173-kernel-desktop-latest-173.14.31-15.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm">http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/nonfree/release/nvidia173-kernel-desktop-latest-173.14.31-15.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm</A>
+
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+
+
+virhe: indeksin Packages avaus db4:ll&#228; ei onnistu - Muistin varaaminen
+ei onnistu (12)
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
+
+<A HREF="http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/tainted/release/vlc-plugin-libnotify-2.0.0-1.mga2.tainted.x86_64.rpm">http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/tainted/release/vlc-plugin-libnotify-2.0.0-1.mga2.tainted.x86_64.rpm</A>
+
+<A HREF="http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/tainted/release/vlc-2.0.0-1.mga2.tainted.x86_64.rpm">http://10.0.0.1/mirror/misc/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/tainted/release/vlc-2.0.0-1.mga2.tainted.x86_64.rpm</A>
+
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+
+
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa /var/lib/rpm ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata
+varoitus:
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/vlc-plugin-libnotify-2.0.0-1.mga2.tainted.x86_64.rpm:
+Otsikko V3 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 80420f66: NOKEY
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata
+virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+virhe: Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata
+Seuraavilla paketeilla on virheellinen allekirjoitus:
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/fglrx-control-center-8.930-2.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm:
+Virheellinen allekirjoitus (NOT OK (no key): Pakettitietokantaa  ei
+voida avata)
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/fglrx-kernel-desktop-latest-8.930-1.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm:
+Virheellinen allekirjoitus (NOT OK (no key): Pakettitietokantaa  ei
+voida avata)
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/nvidia-current-kernel-3.2.9-desktop-1.mga2-290.10-15.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm:
+Virheellinen allekirjoitus (NOT OK (no key): Pakettitietokantaa  ei
+voida avata)
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/nvidia-current-kernel-desktop-latest-290.10-15.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm:
+Virheellinen allekirjoitus (NOT OK (no key): Pakettitietokantaa  ei
+voida avata)
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/nvidia173-kernel-desktop-latest-173.14.31-15.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm:
+Virheellinen allekirjoitus (NOT OK (no key): Pakettitietokantaa  ei
+voida avata)
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/vlc-2.0.0-1.mga2.tainted.x86_64.rpm: Virheellinen
+allekirjoitus (NOT OK (no key): Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata)
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/vlc-plugin-libnotify-2.0.0-1.mga2.tainted.x86_64.rpm:
+Virheellinen allekirjoitus (NOT OK (no key):
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/vlc-plugin-libnotify-2.0.0-1.mga2.tainted.x86_64.rpm:
+Otsikko V3 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 80420f66: NOKEY)
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/x11-driver-video-fglrx-8.930-2.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm:
+Virheellinen allekirjoitus (NOT OK (no key): Pakettitietokantaa  ei
+voida avata)
+Jatka asennusta? (k/E)
+
+
+-- 
+Anssi Hannula
+</PRE>
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20rpm%20read%20locks%20issue.&In-Reply-To=%3C4F511559.9040105%40mageia.org%3E"
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+&gt;<i> 01.03.2012 21:21, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Recently (last couple days) I've been seeing this kind of error/debug
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> when running rpm manually from the command line:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Freeing read locks for locker 0x809: 23048/140698330855168
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's generally repeated over and over.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anyone else see this?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> No, but I've just seen the below.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Muistin varaaminen ei onnistu&quot; ~= &quot;Unable to allocate memory&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Pakettitietokantaa  ei voida avata&quot; ~= &quot;Unable to open rpmdb&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> $ free
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mem:       8038808    7899056     139752          0      37356    1002064
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -/+ buffers/cache:    6859636    1179172
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Swap:      8388604    3731420    4657184
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Should be enough, no?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> [... console scrollback was completely filled with these lines ...]
+</I>&gt;<i> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+</I>&gt;<i> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+</I>&gt;<i> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+</I>&gt;<i> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+</I>&gt;<i> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+</I>&gt;<i> virhe: indeksin Group avaus db4:ll&#228; ei onnistu - Muistin varaaminen ei
+</I>&gt;<i> onnistu (12)
+</I>
+I wonder, could it be because of:
+
+tv &lt;tv&gt; 1:4.9.1.2-17.mga2:
++ Revision: 215717
+- patch 5000: switch back to former, much smaller BDB memory pool size
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+    <B>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 00:03, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 22:54:59 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 01.03.2012 23:36, Pascal Terjan kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I would say it doesn't matter and would not spend any time on it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/lib/rpm/mageia/find-debuginfo.sh:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # Strip ELF binaries
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> find &quot;$RPM_BUILD_ROOT&quot; ! -path &quot;${debugdir}/*.debug&quot; -type f \
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;\( -perm -0100 -or -perm -0010 -or -perm -0001 \) \
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;-print |
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> file -N -f - | sed -n -e 's/^\(.*\):[ &#160; ]*.*ELF.*, not stripped/\1/p' |
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> xargs --no-run-if-empty stat -c '%h %D_%i %n' |
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> while read nlinks inum f; do
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Looks like debug packages and/or stripping won't work for non-executable
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shared libraries.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hmm, there's a '!' there, so isn't it reverse then?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It reverses the -path rule only.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but if this only works with executable libraries, (kind of weird imho), there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> are at least 34 libraries on my system not marked as executable...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> does this mean debug info fails for these?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> works exactly), but I think either a) debug symbols extraction and thus
+</I>&gt;<i> -debug packaging, b) stripping, or c) both will fail with non-executable
+</I>&gt;<i> shared libs.
+</I>If using the internal dependency generator, rpm won't generate dependencies for
+the library either btw.
+
+I've just implemented a rpmlint shared-lib-not-executable check :
+<A HREF="http://svn.mandriva.com/viewvc/packages/cooker/rpmlint/current/SOURCES/rpmlint-1.4-shared-lib-not-executable.patch?view=log">http://svn.mandriva.com/viewvc/packages/cooker/rpmlint/current/SOURCES/rpmlint-1.4-shared-lib-not-executable.patch?view=log</A>
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+&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Is possible to ship qt3-devel with Mageia? Half of the the Polish 
+</I>&gt;<i> community is demanding it, and because of lack of qt3-devel people can't 
+</I>&gt;<i> switch from other Well Known Distros to Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+NO.
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+As stated a million times before...
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+&gt;<i> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
+</I>&gt;<i> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
+</I>&gt;<i> loaded.
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+Fixed in harddrake-13.89.1. The previous versions do not handle XZ
+compressed proprietary driver modules properly.
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+&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 10:38, Robert Fox kirjoitti:
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+</I>&gt;<i> Fixed in harddrake-13.89.1. The previous versions do not handle XZ
+</I>&gt;<i> compressed proprietary driver modules properly.
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/2 Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 10:38, Robert Fox kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> loaded.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Fixed in harddrake-13.89.1. The previous versions do not handle XZ
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> compressed proprietary driver modules properly.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Which means, as soon as we get the new harddrake version in updates
+</I>&gt;<i> the issue is (should be) gone?
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/2 Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 10:38, Robert Fox kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> loaded.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Fixed in harddrake-13.89.1. The previous versions do not handle XZ
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> compressed proprietary driver modules properly.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Which means, as soon as we get the new harddrake version in updates
+</I>&gt;<i> the issue is (should be) gone?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
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+AFAIK you need to reconfigure your system to use the proprietary modules...
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+&gt;<i> Besides... GNOME 3.4 is going to be released on March 28 - does that
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+&gt;<i> mean that we won't be able to ship it with Mageia 2?
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+</I>No, we explicitely pushed the final release date from April (as planned 
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 20:49, Kamil Rytarowski skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is possible to ship qt3-devel with Mageia? Half of the the Polish
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> community is demanding it, and because of lack of qt3-devel people can't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> switch from other Well Known Distros to Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> NO.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As stated a million times before...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> qt3 is obsolete
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The only reason we have some qt3 runtime support is because of LSB
+</I>Sad..
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any stuff needed should be ported to qt4.
+</I>Actually this is not true. One of our Mageia users (who introduced 
+Mageia on a dozen of machines) can't switch the next dozen because of 
+lacking Rivendell Radio Broadcasting software ( 
+<A HREF="http://www.rivendellaudio.org/index.shtml">http://www.rivendellaudio.org/index.shtml</A> ), the other can't use his 
+favourite qt3 apps, and a few others (including RH employee) are forced 
+to use Fedora or KDE4.
+
+If the &quot;obsolete&quot; part is the only reason, then it's not too strong.. 
+the package is maintained and there is *upstream*.
+
+As of the 3.5.13 release the Trinity project has taken over maintenance 
+of Qt3.
+
+     This means we are the new &quot;upstream&quot; location for up-to-date Qt3 
+source code.
+     Since there have been no updates or stable releases from 
+Nokia/Trolltech in many years and there are literally hundreds patches 
+floating around, there was a significant need for a central location.
+     By maintaining Qt3 it will allow us to continue to improve Qt3 
+outside the scope of Trinity. It will also provide a central location 
+for Linux distributions to build packages from, and contributers to 
+submit code to.
+     For obvious reasons any Qt3 version released by this project is 
+licensed under the GPL only; holders of Trolltech Qt licenses may not 
+use these versions in their proprietary projects.
+
+<A HREF="http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3">http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3</A>
+
+Trinity is currently packaged for Mandriva, OpenSUSE and available for 
+the main distros.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>BTW. Your statement trigged outcry to start forking Mga :)
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 21:08, Dimitri Jakov skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Besides... GNOME 3.4 is going to be released on March 28 - does that
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes we know...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mean that we won't be able to ship it with Mageia 2?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Nope, we have that as an exception to the freeze...
+</I>&gt;<i> (that's why we already run 3.3.x)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> we will have Gnome 3.4.x and KDE 4.8.x in Mageia 2
+</I>
+also, I hope mariadb-5.5.x final (right now we have 5.5.20 which is the alpha 
+version; beta will come quite soon, then the rc and finals follow pretty fast 
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+&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 00:17, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 23:05:35 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; does this mean debug info fails for these?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; works exactly), but I think either a) debug symbols extraction and thus
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; -debug packaging, b) stripping, or c) both will fail with non-executable
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; shared libs.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in that case i guess we would need a policy or bs check to make sure we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; don't fail some libraries debug and strip
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Possibly.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Interestingly, Debian policy disallows executable permission on shared
+</I>&gt;<i> libs:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-ru">http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-ru</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ntime
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Shared libraries should not be installed executable, since the dynamic
+</I>&gt;<i> linker does not require this and trying to execute a shared library
+</I>&gt;<i> usually results in a core dump.&quot;
+</I>
+which is sort of strange, since libc is actually executable by design.
+
+i see where they are coming from
+
+but i guess the first part of this is, why is there a find with executable 
+restrictions for the code relating to stripped binaries and debug?
+
+is it because it's also used for real executables?
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+<PRE>02.03.2012 21:57, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 15:22:23 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 00:17, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 23:05:35 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> does this mean debug info fails for these?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping stuff
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> works exactly), but I think either a) debug symbols extraction and thus
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -debug packaging, b) stripping, or c) both will fail with non-executable
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shared libs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in that case i guess we would need a policy or bs check to make sure we
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> don't fail some libraries debug and strip
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Possibly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Interestingly, Debian policy disallows executable permission on shared
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libs:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-ru">http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-ru</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ntime
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Shared libraries should not be installed executable, since the dynamic
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> linker does not require this and trying to execute a shared library
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> usually results in a core dump.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> which is sort of strange, since libc is actually executable by design.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> i see where they are coming from
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> but i guess the first part of this is, why is there a find with executable 
+</I>&gt;<i> restrictions for the code relating to stripped binaries and debug?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> is it because it's also used for real executables?
+</I>
+I guess it is there just to speed up the process, otherwise it would
+have to run 'file' for every file in the package (and many packages have
+lots of files).
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+-- 
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+<PRE>What is a version freeze?
+Let's take an example: abiword-2.9.2-5.mga2.src.rpm
+2.9.2 is version
+-5 is release
+Version freeze happens when no more version changes are allowed (
+unless exception ).
+
+On Mageia 2 planning, it will happen on 7th of march. That's in 5
+days, for people that do not look their calendar.
+
+Reasons for a freeze
+-----------------------------
+We start the freeze in order to focus now on fixing pending bugs and
+stabilize general state of distribution in order to prepare the
+release of Mageia 2 on 3rd of may. The version freeze will be followed
+by a release freeze on 7th of april, and a freeze for release. The
+main goal is that bugs are caused by general changes, so to reduce
+bugs count, we should focus on just fixing them. It avoids edge
+effects because of last minute updates.
+
+What it changes in practice
+----------------------------------------
+if a package is a different version from the previous one, youri ( our
+package upload tool ) will block the upload, unless you are in a
+special group ( see end of mail for the list ).  So while non version
+change can be uploaded without problem ( so people can still add
+patches, etc ), version changes should be submitted by autorized
+person.
+
+How to ask for an exception
+-----------------------------------------
+- First, try to build the rpm locally, test it, see if it installs and
+works fine.
+Check that the changes are minimal enough, on Provides and Requires
+tags, on file location, etc
+- Do not commit in the main branch for now ( you can use branch if you want )
+- If unsure, please ask first for a freeze break on mageia-dev, with
+reasons. Please keep in mind that only bugfixes should be accepted.
+- Once the break is accepted, please commit and then ask for submitting
+
+Criteria for accepting updates
+------------------------------------------
+Since we aim for stability, the criteria would be near the ones of
+updates. For example, if this is upgrade to a stable release when the
+rc was here ( like for gnome ), this should be ok. If that fixes an
+important bugfix, or a security issue this should be ok, provided
+there is not much breakage, and that it doesn't require to rebuild
+half of the distribution.
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+Please explain clearly if there is an important bug, give url, etc.
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+While we should have discussed this before a little bit more ( as said
+in meeting ), we will take the following list for now, with people who
+should be both avliable and experienced enough.
+
+List of authorized people to submit new version
+- misc
+- ennael
+- tmb
+- anssi
+- boklm
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 21:57, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 15:22:23 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 02.03.2012 00:17, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 23:05:35 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; does this mean debug info fails for these?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; stuff works exactly), but I think either a) debug symbols extraction
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and thus -debug packaging, b) stripping, or c) both will fail with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; non-executable shared libs.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; in that case i guess we would need a policy or bs check to make sure we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; don't fail some libraries debug and strip
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Possibly.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Interestingly, Debian policy disallows executable permission on shared
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; libs:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-">http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ru ntime
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &quot;Shared libraries should not be installed executable, since the dynamic
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; linker does not require this and trying to execute a shared library
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; usually results in a core dump.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; which is sort of strange, since libc is actually executable by design.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i see where they are coming from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but i guess the first part of this is, why is there a find with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; executable restrictions for the code relating to stripped binaries and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; debug?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is it because it's also used for real executables?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess it is there just to speed up the process, otherwise it would
+</I>&gt;<i> have to run 'file' for every file in the package (and many packages have
+</I>&gt;<i> lots of files).
+</I>
+still, it seems kind of weird, there are rpmlint checks for unstripped 
+libraries, but i do have 34 libraries not marked as executable, while the 
+stripping+ debug seems to target only executables?
+
+i wonder if we should make another check library unset as executable or even 
+check what happened with these libraries not marked as executable?
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+    <B>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 21:29:05 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 21:57, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 15:22:23 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 02.03.2012 00:17, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 23:05:35 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; does this mean debug info fails for these?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; stuff works exactly), but I think either a) debug symbols extraction
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and thus -debug packaging, b) stripping, or c) both will fail with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; non-executable shared libs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; in that case i guess we would need a policy or bs check to make sure we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; don't fail some libraries debug and strip
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Possibly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Interestingly, Debian policy disallows executable permission on shared
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; libs:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-">http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ru ntime
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &quot;Shared libraries should not be installed executable, since the dynamic
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; linker does not require this and trying to execute a shared library
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; usually results in a core dump.&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; which is sort of strange, since libc is actually executable by design.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; i see where they are coming from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; but i guess the first part of this is, why is there a find with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; executable restrictions for the code relating to stripped binaries and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; debug?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; is it because it's also used for real executables?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I guess it is there just to speed up the process, otherwise it would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have to run 'file' for every file in the package (and many packages have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lots of files).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> still, it seems kind of weird, there are rpmlint checks for unstripped
+</I>&gt;<i> libraries, but i do have 34 libraries not marked as executable, while the
+</I>&gt;<i> stripping+ debug seems to target only executables?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i wonder if we should make another check library unset as executable or even
+</I>&gt;<i> check what happened with these libraries not marked as executable?
+</I>I posted a link to a rpmlint patch implementing such a check to this thread two
+hours ago.. :p
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+Per &#216;yvind
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+&gt;<i> On Mageia 2 planning, it will happen on 7th of march. That's in 5
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+I have checked with the lm_sensors people (Jean Delvare) and this
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+&quot;delayed by a last minute bug (not in sensors-detect.)&quot;
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+I would normally prefer to wait for the new version, but Jean is busy
+with other issues at the moment and I know we're coming up on version
+freeze.
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+&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 21:06, Wolfgang Bornath skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/2 Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 10:38, Robert Fox kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> loaded.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Fixed in harddrake-13.89.1. The previous versions do not handle XZ
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> compressed proprietary driver modules properly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Which means, as soon as we get the new harddrake version in updates
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the issue is (should be) gone?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> AFAIK you need to reconfigure your system to use the proprietary modules...
+</I>
+Yes, that's to be expected anyway. Thx
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/2 Wolfgang Bornath&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> whould be fixed with coming updates.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> should be fixed....
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Seems this was not the problem for you, but my FX series card has had no 
+nvidia available since x11 was updated before Christmas.
+I think I need a new graphic card :(
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+&gt;<i> On 02/03/12 16:53, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/2 Wolfgang Bornath&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> whould be fixed with coming updates.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should be fixed....
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Seems this was not the problem for you, but my FX series card has had no
+</I>&gt;<i> nvidia available since x11 was updated before Christmas.
+</I>&gt;<i> I think I need a new graphic card :(
+</I>
+Well, I don't know, but after last update tonight (mirror sync status
+23:01 Paris time) the complete system which was working fine is now
+hosed anyway.
+
+1. Nouveau driver still there (although I tried with XFdrake to get
+the nvidia re-installed), but that did not make my system unusable
+before
+2. wifi connection totally lost (not possible to get a connection,
+whichever way I tried)
+3. After system start the system now displays a message that it can
+not start Gnome 3 because my graphic system is possibly not able to
+run in normal Gnome 3, so it starts in a somehow &quot;compatibility mode&quot;.
+/etc/X11/xorg.conf shows that the nouveau driver is working, which
+never had problems with Gnome 3.
+4. I switched to tty2, and was presented with my keyboard now writing
+in black! Trying to write 'asdf' does not show any character but
+hitting enter returns 'asdf: command not found&quot;
+
+Points 2, 3, 4 occurred at reboot after the update.
+I'll call it a day...
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+and with what license.
+Oce is the OPENCascade Community Edition.
+Earlier versions are/were packaged by Mdv and Fedora, and recently Deb 
+has included it.
+It seems from OPENCascade's own license literature to be LGPL-like with 
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+Fedora consider it non-free, but since all the source is available and 
+redistributable I don't know why, so ignore my comment on line 1 of the 
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+idea that those fstab entries should be automatically
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+recreate any mountpoints under /media.
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+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 20:17, Anssi Hannula skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 01.03.2012 21:21, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Recently (last couple days) I've been seeing this kind of error/debug
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> when running rpm manually from the command line:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Freeing read locks for locker 0x809: 23048/140698330855168
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's generally repeated over and over.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anyone else see this?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No, but I've just seen the below.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Muistin varaaminen ei onnistu&quot; ~= &quot;Unable to allocate memory&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Pakettitietokantaa &#160;ei voida avata&quot; ~= &quot;Unable to open rpmdb&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> $ free
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;total &#160; &#160; &#160; used &#160; &#160; &#160; free &#160; &#160; shared &#160; &#160;buffers &#160; &#160; cached
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mem: &#160; &#160; &#160; 8038808 &#160; &#160;7899056 &#160; &#160; 139752 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;0 &#160; &#160; &#160;37356 &#160; &#160;1002064
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -/+ buffers/cache: &#160; &#160;6859636 &#160; &#160;1179172
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Swap: &#160; &#160; &#160;8388604 &#160; &#160;3731420 &#160; &#160;4657184
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Should be enough, no?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [... console scrollback was completely filled with these lines ...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> virhe: indeksin Group avaus db4:ll&#228; ei onnistu - Muistin varaaminen ei
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> onnistu (12)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wonder, could it be because of:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> tv &lt;tv&gt; 1:4.9.1.2-17.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 215717
+</I>&gt;<i> - patch 5000: switch back to former, much smaller BDB memory pool size
+</I>&gt;<i> (RhBug:752897)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+i tried to remove it for testing purpose but we still have the issue.
+
+Thierry do you see what may be the culprit for this ?
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+&gt;<i> I've since been thinking, it might be better if either
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+</I>&gt;<i> recreate any mountpoints under /media.
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+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 20:16:11 schreef Thomas Backlund:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 02.03.2012 21:08, Dimitri Jakov skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Besides... GNOME 3.4 is going to be released on March 28 - does that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yes we know...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; mean that we won't be able to ship it with Mageia 2?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Nope, we have that as an exception to the freeze...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (that's why we already run 3.3.x)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; we will have Gnome 3.4.x and KDE 4.8.x in Mageia 2
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> also, I hope mariadb-5.5.x final (right now we have 5.5.20 which is the alpha 
+</I>&gt;<i> version; beta will come quite soon, then the rc and finals follow pretty fast 
+</I>&gt;<i> and these only contain bugfixes)
+</I>
+Next time, maybe waiting for the beta would be better, cauldron is not
+mean to be a playground for testing upstream softwares when we do not
+have a strong assurance that the stable will end i the stable release.
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+If everybody start to do that, we spend more time on upgrading to
+version that should have been stable than fixing others bugs.
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+And if upstream could also try to be a little bit less original and
+follow some easy to grasp convetion about version number.
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+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 02 mars 2012 &#224; 20:53 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 20:16:11 schreef Thomas Backlund:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 21:08, Dimitri Jakov skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Besides... GNOME 3.4 is going to be released on March 28 - does that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yes we know...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mean that we won't be able to ship it with Mageia 2?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Nope, we have that as an exception to the freeze...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (that's why we already run 3.3.x)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> we will have Gnome 3.4.x and KDE 4.8.x in Mageia 2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> also, I hope mariadb-5.5.x final (right now we have 5.5.20 which is the alpha 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> version; beta will come quite soon, then the rc and finals follow pretty fast 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and these only contain bugfixes)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Next time, maybe waiting for the beta would be better, cauldron is not
+</I>&gt;<i> mean to be a playground for testing upstream softwares when we do not
+</I>&gt;<i> have a strong assurance that the stable will end i the stable release.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+Actually in this case it is ok, since we've been tracking upstream 5.5.x
+branch with the target for 5.5.x final, so &quot;alpha&quot; in this case
+only means fully synced with mysql 5.5 and afaik all intended mariadb
+patches merged...
+
+They are only a bit late :/
+
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+&gt;<i> If everybody start to do that, we spend more time on upgrading to
+</I>&gt;<i> version that should have been stable than fixing others bugs.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And if upstream could also try to be a little bit less original and
+</I>&gt;<i> follow some easy to grasp convetion about version number.
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+&gt;<i> On Friday 02 March 2012 15:31, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Back in my school days when we had to do a home work project of 1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; month our teacher used to remind us the day before scheduled deadline
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - for people like me it meant to start working on the project!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Some people may be like me...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe we should have a policy on when to remind developers on version freezes.
+</I>&gt;<i> Say, one or two weeks before the freeze, so they get a chance to submit final changes.
+</I>
+We reminded there is version freeze coming during meetings ( like
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2012/mageia-dev.2012-02-15-20.13.log.html#l-75">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2012/mageia-dev.2012-02-15-20.13.log.html#l-75</A> ), or what is the plan until the release ( <A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2012/mageia-dev.2012-01-26-20.03.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2012/mageia-dev.2012-01-26-20.03.html</A> ). 
+We gave the list of date in advance
+( <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development</A> ) and a link to the
+planning in every mail of announce, as well in blog posts and forums
+post.
+
+We have a calendar ( <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/calendar/">http://www.mageia.org/en/calendar/</A> ), where the
+freeze was given.  
+
+And I expect people to either be experienced packager ( ie who have
+already done 1 release and so know the rules ), or to be new packagers
+with a experienced packager ( ie mentor ) who should have explained the
+release cycle. 
+
+So if people have missed the whole plan, there is a problem that we need
+to fix, and the first step would be to collect reasons why they did
+missed it, not nag more everybody on every possible channels.
+
+For people who didn't miss and who read the mails etc, the reminder are
+annoying and the more reminder we put, the more they will start to
+ignore them. And I see no reason to annoy those that do the job and
+follow thing to help those that don't. 
+
+So if someone want to start collecting feedback, digesting it and
+present it, just say that you are volunteer on the list, and start the
+collect.
+
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+&gt;<i> We have a calendar ( <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/calendar/">http://www.mageia.org/en/calendar/</A> ), where the
+</I>&gt;<i> freeze was given.
+</I>Weird, if i add this calendar into my google calandar or into Thunderbird, i see no events 
+from it. Some settings are wrong?
+
+And now the reason why i started this thread: i was not sure if this date is confirmed. As 
+you can see from <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development</A> there have been delays. How 
+do i know that this will really happen?
+
+Maybe we can use something like Mozilla is doing for their releases 
+(<A HREF="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Features/Release_Tracking">https://wiki.mozilla.org/Features/Release_Tracking</A>) - i mean some status/health field that 
+would say if the date is confirmed or the date is at risk for some reason. Then no reminders 
+are needed but i can be sure that this date will stick.
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bug 4095 ( <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4095">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4095</A>) asks that we
+</I>&gt;<i> update the version of the &quot;sensors-detect&quot; script in the lm_sensors
+</I>&gt;<i> package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have checked with the lm_sensors people (Jean Delvare) and this
+</I>&gt;<i> should be safe. &#160;They are working on a new version of the lm_sensors
+</I>&gt;<i> code, but were
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;delayed by a last minute bug (not in sensors-detect.)&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would normally prefer to wait for the new version, but Jean is busy
+</I>&gt;<i> with other issues at the moment and I know we're coming up on version
+</I>&gt;<i> freeze.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any thoughts?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+<PRE>Le 02/03/2012 22:01, Per &#216;yvind Karlsen a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Den 21:51 2. mars 2012 skrev Maarten Vanraes&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;  f&#248;lgende:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 21:29:05 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 21:57, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 15:22:23 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 00:17, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 23:05:35 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> does this mean debug info fails for these?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> stuff works exactly), but I think either a) debug symbols extraction
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and thus -debug packaging, b) stripping, or c) both will fail with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> non-executable shared libs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in that case i guess we would need a policy or bs check to make sure we
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> don't fail some libraries debug and strip
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Possibly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Interestingly, Debian policy disallows executable permission on shared
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libs:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-">http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ru ntime
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Shared libraries should not be installed executable, since the dynamic
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> linker does not require this and trying to execute a shared library
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> usually results in a core dump.&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> which is sort of strange, since libc is actually executable by design.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> i see where they are coming from
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but i guess the first part of this is, why is there a find with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> executable restrictions for the code relating to stripped binaries and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> debug?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is it because it's also used for real executables?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I guess it is there just to speed up the process, otherwise it would
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have to run 'file' for every file in the package (and many packages have
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lots of files).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> still, it seems kind of weird, there are rpmlint checks for unstripped
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libraries, but i do have 34 libraries not marked as executable, while the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> stripping+ debug seems to target only executables?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i wonder if we should make another check library unset as executable or even
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> check what happened with these libraries not marked as executable?
+</I>&gt;<i> I posted a link to a rpmlint patch implementing such a check to this thread two
+</I>&gt;<i> hours ago.. :p
+</I>I don't much point to a check, when a rpm-helper scriptlet would be able 
+to automatically enforce any given permission set.
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+It seems that the BS indefinitely retries to build kdebase4-workspace 
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The BS seems broken; I submitted this morning kdebase4-workspace, and 
+</I>&gt;<i> the build is still in progress (4 hours after). Same thing with 
+</I>&gt;<i> gnuradio-3.5.1-8.mga2 i586 (12 hours).
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems that the BS indefinitely retries to build kdebase4-workspace 
+</I>&gt;<i> (on <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/,">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/,</A> the build machine regularly changes).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
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+I will kill all builds on both nodes as soon as new glibc is uploaded,
+and force recreation of all cauldron chroots...
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+    <B>Luc Menut</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The BS seems broken; I submitted this morning kdebase4-workspace, and
+</I>&gt;<i> the build is still in progress (4 hours after). Same thing with
+</I>&gt;<i> gnuradio-3.5.1-8.mga2 i586 (12 hours).
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems that the BS indefinitely retries to build kdebase4-workspace
+</I>&gt;<i> (on <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/,">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/,</A> the build machine regularly changes).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I just tried to build locally  kdebase4-workspace in iurt: urpmi fails 
+to install BuildRequires.
+
+After 657/764 installed packages:
+[...]
+starting installing packages
+created transaction for installing on / (remove=0, install=0, upgrade=8)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Basenames index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Group index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Requirename index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Triggername index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Dirnames index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Installtid index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Sigmd5 index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Sha1header index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+
+[...]
+
+...retrieving done
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+
+[...]
+
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+unable to open rpmdb
+I: [iurt_root_command] ERROR: chroot
+
+I: [iurt2] [iurt2] --------------- end of command output ---------------
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+[...]
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+It seems a pb with rpm.
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/3 Barry Jackson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">zen25000 at zen.co.uk</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 02/03/12 16:53, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/2 Wolfgang Bornath&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> whould be fixed with coming updates.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should be fixed....
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Seems this was not the problem for you, but my FX series card has had no
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> nvidia available since x11 was updated before Christmas.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think I need a new graphic card :(
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, I don't know, but after last update tonight (mirror sync status
+</I>&gt;<i> 23:01 Paris time) the complete system which was working fine is now
+</I>&gt;<i> hosed anyway.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Nouveau driver still there (although I tried with XFdrake to get
+</I>&gt;<i> the nvidia re-installed), but that did not make my system unusable
+</I>&gt;<i> before
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. wifi connection totally lost (not possible to get a connection,
+</I>&gt;<i> whichever way I tried)
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. After system start the system now displays a message that it can
+</I>&gt;<i> not start Gnome 3 because my graphic system is possibly not able to
+</I>&gt;<i> run in normal Gnome 3, so it starts in a somehow &quot;compatibility mode&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/X11/xorg.conf shows that the nouveau driver is working, which
+</I>&gt;<i> never had problems with Gnome 3.
+</I>&gt;<i> 4. I switched to tty2, and was presented with my keyboard now writing
+</I>&gt;<i> in black! Trying to write 'asdf' does not show any character but
+</I>&gt;<i> hitting enter returns 'asdf: command not found&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Points 2, 3, 4 occurred at reboot after the update.
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll call it a day...
+</I>
+After todays updates the issues are resolved:
+
+1. After reconfiguring X and reboot the proprietary driver was
+accepted and Gnome 3 started without problems
+2. After removing all net connections and recreating wlan0 (in MCC
+without enabling networkmanager) wifi is working again
+3. Input on ttys is back to white on black
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+    <B>Luc Menut</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 03/03/2012 14:06, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 03.03.2012 15:04, Luc Menut skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The BS seems broken; I submitted this morning kdebase4-workspace, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the build is still in progress (4 hours after). Same thing with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gnuradio-3.5.1-8.mga2 i586 (12 hours).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It seems that the BS indefinitely retries to build kdebase4-workspace
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (on <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/,">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/,</A> the build machine regularly changes).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I will kill all builds on both nodes as soon as new glibc is uploaded,
+</I>&gt;<i> and force recreation of all cauldron chroots...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+OK, you can kill kdebase4-workspace's builds immediately if you want to 
+free build nodes; they won't build with the current chroot.
+
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+&gt;<i> Le 03/03/2012 14:06, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 03.03.2012 15:04, Luc Menut skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The BS seems broken; I submitted this morning kdebase4-workspace, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the build is still in progress (4 hours after). Same thing with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; gnuradio-3.5.1-8.mga2 i586 (12 hours).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It seems that the BS indefinitely retries to build kdebase4-workspace
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (on <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/,">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/,</A> the build machine regularly changes).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I will kill all builds on both nodes as soon as new glibc is uploaded,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and force recreation of all cauldron chroots...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, you can kill kdebase4-workspace's builds immediately if you want to
+</I>&gt;<i> free build nodes; they won't build with the current chroot.
+</I>
+I have been trying to build php-pear-horde pacakges for a week w/o success.
+It seems theBS cannot find the horde-pear-channel. I kept waiting since it was 
+in fact down for some time, but it builds locally as well as on the mdv bs.
+Thas the BS lost dns service?
+-- 
+Best regards
+Thomas Spuhler
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+&gt;<i> On Saturday, March 03, 2012 06:56:25 AM Luc Menut wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 03/03/2012 14:06, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 03.03.2012 15:04, Luc Menut skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The BS seems broken; I submitted this morning kdebase4-workspace, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the build is still in progress (4 hours after). Same thing with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; gnuradio-3.5.1-8.mga2 i586 (12 hours).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It seems that the BS indefinitely retries to build kdebase4-workspace
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (on <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/,">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/,</A> the build machine regularly changes).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I will kill all builds on both nodes as soon as new glibc is uploaded,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; and force recreation of all cauldron chroots...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OK, you can kill kdebase4-workspace's builds immediately if you want to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> free build nodes; they won't build with the current chroot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have been trying to build php-pear-horde pacakges for a week w/o success.
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems theBS cannot find the horde-pear-channel. I kept waiting since it was
+</I>&gt;<i> in fact down for some time, but it builds locally as well as on the mdv bs.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thas the BS lost dns service?
+</I>
+What is failing exactly?
+DNS seem to be working fine.
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 15:21, Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Saturday, March 03, 2012 06:56:25 AM Luc Menut wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Le 03/03/2012 14:06, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; 03.03.2012 15:04, Luc Menut skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; The BS seems broken; I submitted this morning kdebase4-workspace, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; the build is still in progress (4 hours after). Same thing with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; gnuradio-3.5.1-8.mga2 i586 (12 hours).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; It seems that the BS indefinitely retries to build kdebase4-workspace
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; (on <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/,">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/,</A> the build machine regularly
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; changes).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; I will kill all builds on both nodes as soon as new glibc is uploaded,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; and force recreation of all cauldron chroots...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; OK, you can kill kdebase4-workspace's builds immediately if you want to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; free build nodes; they won't build with the current chroot.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have been trying to build php-pear-horde pacakges for a week w/o
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; success. It seems theBS cannot find the horde-pear-channel. I kept
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; waiting since it was in fact down for some time, but it builds locally
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as well as on the mdv bs. Thas the BS lost dns service?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> What is failing exactly?
+</I>&gt;<i> DNS seem to be working fine.
+</I>
+The logs say:
+Unknown channel &quot;pear.horde.org&quot;
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+but locally I get 
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> ~]# pear list-upgrades
+WARNING: channel &quot;pear.horde.org&quot; has updated its protocols, use &quot;pear 
+channel-update pear.horde.org&quot; to update
+pear.horde.org Available Upgrades (stable):
+===========================================
+Channel        Package           Local          Remote         Size
+pear.horde.org Horde_ActiveSync  1.2.3 (stable) 1.2.4 (stable) 87kB
+pear.horde.org Horde_Crypt       1.1.0 (stable) 1.1.1 (stable) 135kB
+pear.horde.org Horde_Data        1.0.4 (stable) 1.0.5 (stable) 31kB
+pear.horde.org Horde_Group       1.0.4 (stable) 1.0.5 (stable) 21kB
+pear.horde.org Horde_Http        1.1.0 (stable) 1.1.1 (stable) 11.8kB
+pear.horde.org Horde_Imap_Client 1.4.3 (stable) 1.5.1 (stable) 134kB
+pear.horde.org Horde_Itip        1.0.6 (stable) 1.0.7 (stable) 33kB
+pear.horde.org Horde_Mail        1.0.3 (stable) 1.1.0 (stable) 21kB
+pear.horde.org Horde_Memcache    1.0.4 (stable) 1.0.5 (stable) 13.2kB
+pear.horde.org Horde_Rdo         1.1.0 (stable) 1.1.1 (stable) 30kB
+pear.horde.org Horde_Support     1.0.1 (stable) 1.0.2 (stable) 22kB
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+&gt;<i> On Saturday, March 03, 2012 08:26:40 AM Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 15:21, Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Saturday, March 03, 2012 06:56:25 AM Luc Menut wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 03/03/2012 14:06, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 03.03.2012 15:04, Luc Menut skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The BS seems broken; I submitted this morning kdebase4-workspace, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the build is still in progress (4 hours after). Same thing with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gnuradio-3.5.1-8.mga2 i586 (12 hours).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It seems that the BS indefinitely retries to build kdebase4-workspace
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (on <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/,">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/,</A> the build machine regularly
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> changes).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I will kill all builds on both nodes as soon as new glibc is uploaded,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and force recreation of all cauldron chroots...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> OK, you can kill kdebase4-workspace's builds immediately if you want to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> free build nodes; they won't build with the current chroot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have been trying to build php-pear-horde pacakges for a week w/o
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> success. It seems theBS cannot find the horde-pear-channel. I kept
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> waiting since it was in fact down for some time, but it builds locally
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> as well as on the mdv bs. Thas the BS lost dns service?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What is failing exactly?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> DNS seem to be working fine.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The logs say:
+</I>&gt;<i> Unknown channel &quot;pear.horde.org&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> but locally I get 
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> ~]# pear list-upgrades
+</I>&gt;<i> WARNING: channel &quot;pear.horde.org&quot; has updated its protocols, use &quot;pear 
+</I>&gt;<i> channel-update pear.horde.org&quot; to update
+</I>&gt;<i> pear.horde.org Available Upgrades (stable):
+</I>&gt;<i> ===========================================
+</I>&gt;<i> Channel        Package           Local          Remote         Size
+</I>&gt;<i> pear.horde.org Horde_ActiveSync  1.2.3 (stable) 1.2.4 (stable) 87kB
+</I>&gt;<i> pear.horde.org Horde_Crypt       1.1.0 (stable) 1.1.1 (stable) 135kB
+</I>&gt;<i> pear.horde.org Horde_Data        1.0.4 (stable) 1.0.5 (stable) 31kB
+</I>&gt;<i> pear.horde.org Horde_Group       1.0.4 (stable) 1.0.5 (stable) 21kB
+</I>&gt;<i> pear.horde.org Horde_Http        1.1.0 (stable) 1.1.1 (stable) 11.8kB
+</I>&gt;<i> pear.horde.org Horde_Imap_Client 1.4.3 (stable) 1.5.1 (stable) 134kB
+</I>&gt;<i> pear.horde.org Horde_Itip        1.0.6 (stable) 1.0.7 (stable) 33kB
+</I>&gt;<i> pear.horde.org Horde_Mail        1.0.3 (stable) 1.1.0 (stable) 21kB
+</I>&gt;<i> pear.horde.org Horde_Memcache    1.0.4 (stable) 1.0.5 (stable) 13.2kB
+</I>&gt;<i> pear.horde.org Horde_Rdo         1.1.0 (stable) 1.1.1 (stable) 30kB
+</I>&gt;<i> pear.horde.org Horde_Support     1.0.1 (stable) 1.0.2 (stable) 22kB
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So it seems the channel is up and working
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+Chroots build without dns support, as everything built must be provided
+by the repos, not checked/downloaded during build time.
+
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+Just patch the code to stop trying to get online.
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+--
+Thomas
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Sander Lepik at 03/03/12 10:03 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 03.03.2012 11:42, Michael Scherer kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We have a calendar ( <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/en/calendar/">http://www.mageia.org/en/calendar/</A> ), where the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> freeze was given.
+</I>&gt;<i> Weird, if i add this calendar into my google calandar or into
+</I>&gt;<i> Thunderbird, i see no events from it. Some settings are wrong?
+</I>
+Just FWIW, I see the events from this calendar in Thunderbird fine.
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+    <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> 
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+<PRE>On Saturday 03 March 2012 10:42, Michael Scherer wrote:
+&gt;<i> We reminded there is version freeze coming during meetings
+</I>
+Some of us can't attend these IRC-meetings at the current scheduled time.
+
+&gt;<i> We gave the list of date in advance
+</I>
+That is not a freeze Reminder.
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+&gt;<i> and a link to the planning in every mail of announce, 
+</I>
+That is not a freeze reminder.
+Besides, I don't remember seeing any version freeze announces untill after this thread came, saying it should be announced in advance.
+
+&gt;<i> as well in blog posts and forums post.
+</I>
+Many of us don't read blogs and forums.
+Besides, I was once told or read somewhere that developers and packagers should follow /this/ list in order to receive important notices and follow the development process. Not to read a blog and attend the forums.
+
+&gt;<i> We have a calendar where the freeze was given.
+</I>
+That is a schedule, not a freeze reminder.
+
+&gt;<i> And I expect people to either be experienced packager ( ie who have
+</I>&gt;<i> already done 1 release and so know the rules ), or to be new packagers
+</I>&gt;<i> with a experienced packager ( ie mentor ) who should have explained the
+</I>&gt;<i> release cycle. 
+</I>
+Knowing the cycle is not a freeze reminder.
+
+&gt;<i> So if people have missed the whole plan, there is a problem that we need
+</I>&gt;<i> to fix, and the first step would be to collect reasons why they did
+</I>&gt;<i> missed it, not nag more everybody on every possible channels.
+</I>
+You miss my whole point.
+I am talking about one -1- reminder to the list when the Version freeze is about to happen. Not that it is scheduled to occur in two months.
+
+You need to remember that we are flawed human beeings. And this may come as a surprise for some, but human beeings happens to have a tendency to forget things. Even important things. That is why all kinds of reminders and reminder related services exists.
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+<PRE>On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 16:42, Johnny A. Solbu &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cooker at solbu.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Saturday 03 March 2012 10:42, Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We reminded there is version freeze coming during meetings
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some of us can't attend these IRC-meetings at the current scheduled time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We gave the list of date in advance
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That is not a freeze Reminder.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and a link to the planning in every mail of announce,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That is not a freeze reminder.
+</I>&gt;<i> Besides, I don't remember seeing any version freeze announces untill after this thread came, saying it should be announced in advance.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as well in blog posts and forums post.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Many of us don't read blogs and forums.
+</I>&gt;<i> Besides, I was once told or read somewhere that developers and packagers should follow /this/ list in order to receive important notices and follow the development process. Not to read a blog and attend the forums.
+</I>
+The freeze was reminded on this list in the email announcing that beta
+1 iso were on their way, 2 weeks ago
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-February/011914.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-February/011914.html</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Kamil Rytarowski at 02/03/12 19:43 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 02.03.2012 19:55, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 20:49, Kamil Rytarowski skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is possible to ship qt3-devel with Mageia? Half of the the Polish
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> community is demanding it, and because of lack of qt3-devel people can't
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> switch from other Well Known Distros to Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> NO.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As stated a million times before...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> qt3 is obsolete
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The only reason we have some qt3 runtime support is because of LSB
+</I>&gt;<i> Sad..
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any stuff needed should be ported to qt4.
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually this is not true. One of our Mageia users (who introduced
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia on a dozen of machines) can't switch the next dozen because of
+</I>&gt;<i> lacking Rivendell Radio Broadcasting software (
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.rivendellaudio.org/index.shtml">http://www.rivendellaudio.org/index.shtml</A> ), the other can't use his
+</I>&gt;<i> favourite qt3 apps, and a few others (including RH employee) are forced
+</I>&gt;<i> to use Fedora or KDE4.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If the &quot;obsolete&quot; part is the only reason, then it's not too strong..
+</I>&gt;<i> the package is maintained and there is *upstream*.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> As of the 3.5.13 release the Trinity project has taken over maintenance
+</I>&gt;<i> of Qt3.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>     This means we are the new &quot;upstream&quot; location for up-to-date Qt3
+</I>&gt;<i> source code.
+</I>&gt;<i>     Since there have been no updates or stable releases from
+</I>&gt;<i> Nokia/Trolltech in many years and there are literally hundreds patches
+</I>&gt;<i> floating around, there was a significant need for a central location.
+</I>&gt;<i>     By maintaining Qt3 it will allow us to continue to improve Qt3
+</I>&gt;<i> outside the scope of Trinity. It will also provide a central location
+</I>&gt;<i> for Linux distributions to build packages from, and contributers to
+</I>&gt;<i> submit code to.
+</I>&gt;<i>     For obvious reasons any Qt3 version released by this project is
+</I>&gt;<i> licensed under the GPL only; holders of Trolltech Qt licenses may not
+</I>&gt;<i> use these versions in their proprietary projects.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3">http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Trinity is currently packaged for Mandriva, OpenSUSE and available for
+</I>&gt;<i> the main distros.
+</I>
+I am thoroughly unimpressed with this trinity stuff. Open Source
+software gives people freedoms and that's good, but it doesn't stop them
+making bad decisions.
+
+Times move on. Why take a legacy bit of software and keep on developing
+it? If they *really* cared so much for the KDE3 interface they would
+port it to qt4 or even qt5, not limp on with outdated base layers.
+
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+Col
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>Seems the latest network manager is busted...
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+Won't start or stop properly nor allow networks to actually work...
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+Not sure exactly what is wrong, but I'll try and look into it if noone
+else does.
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+Col
+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+<PRE>Am 03.03.2012 17:42, schrieb Johnny A. Solbu:
+&gt;<i> You miss my whole point.
+</I>&gt;<i> I am talking about one -1- reminder to the list when the Version freeze is about to happen.
+</I>Not that it is scheduled to occur in two months.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You need to remember that we are flawed human beeings. And this may come as a surprise for some,
+</I>but human beeings happens to have a tendency to forget things. Even 
+important things. That is why
+all kinds of reminders and reminder related services exists.
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+In the last meeting invitation, Anne did talk about it (before this 
+thread started). And even if people can't attend the meetings because of 
+other duties or being on the wrong side of earth, there are the logs.
+And in the last meeting logs for this channel, the reminder was said and 
+discussed.
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+    <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> 
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+<PRE>On Saturday, March 03, 2012 08:42:58 AM Thomas Backlund wrote:
+&gt;<i> 03.03.2012 17:38, Thomas Spuhler skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Saturday, March 03, 2012 08:26:40 AM Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 15:21, Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; 
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On Saturday, March 03, 2012 06:56:25 AM Luc Menut wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Le 03/03/2012 14:06, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 03.03.2012 15:04, Luc Menut skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The BS seems broken; I submitted this morning kdebase4-workspace,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and the build is still in progress (4 hours after). Same thing with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; gnuradio-3.5.1-8.mga2 i586 (12 hours).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; It seems that the BS indefinitely retries to build
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; kdebase4-workspace (on <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/,">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/,</A> the build
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; machine regularly changes).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I will kill all builds on both nodes as soon as new glibc is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; uploaded, and force recreation of all cauldron chroots...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; OK, you can kill kdebase4-workspace's builds immediately if you want
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to free build nodes; they won't build with the current chroot.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I have been trying to build php-pear-horde pacakges for a week w/o
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; success. It seems theBS cannot find the horde-pear-channel. I kept
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; waiting since it was in fact down for some time, but it builds locally
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; as well as on the mdv bs. Thas the BS lost dns service?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; What is failing exactly?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; DNS seem to be working fine.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The logs say:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Unknown channel &quot;pear.horde.org&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but locally I get
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> ~]# pear list-upgrades
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; WARNING: channel &quot;pear.horde.org&quot; has updated its protocols, use &quot;pear
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; channel-update pear.horde.org&quot; to update
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pear.horde.org Available Upgrades (stable):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ===========================================
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Channel        Package           Local          Remote         Size
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pear.horde.org Horde_ActiveSync  1.2.3 (stable) 1.2.4 (stable) 87kB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pear.horde.org Horde_Crypt       1.1.0 (stable) 1.1.1 (stable) 135kB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pear.horde.org Horde_Data        1.0.4 (stable) 1.0.5 (stable) 31kB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pear.horde.org Horde_Group       1.0.4 (stable) 1.0.5 (stable) 21kB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pear.horde.org Horde_Http        1.1.0 (stable) 1.1.1 (stable) 11.8kB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pear.horde.org Horde_Imap_Client 1.4.3 (stable) 1.5.1 (stable) 134kB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pear.horde.org Horde_Itip        1.0.6 (stable) 1.0.7 (stable) 33kB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pear.horde.org Horde_Mail        1.0.3 (stable) 1.1.0 (stable) 21kB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pear.horde.org Horde_Memcache    1.0.4 (stable) 1.0.5 (stable) 13.2kB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pear.horde.org Horde_Rdo         1.1.0 (stable) 1.1.1 (stable) 30kB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pear.horde.org Horde_Support     1.0.1 (stable) 1.0.2 (stable) 22kB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So it seems the channel is up and working
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Chroots build without dns support, as everything built must be provided
+</I>&gt;<i> by the repos, not checked/downloaded during build time.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Just patch the code to stop trying to get online.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
+I am afraid I would have to redo about 300+ pear package specs this close to 
+the version freeze. I do not have the time for this.
+What has changed in the last week on the BS? Was does this change fix?
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+Best regards
+Thomas
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> I am afraid I would have to redo about 300+ pear package specs this close to
+</I>&gt;<i> the version freeze. I do not have the time for this.
+</I>
+That's very annoying as it means we depend on external system to be
+able to rebuild the package if we need for any reason (like security
+updates).
+I hope this does not include any compiled module as it may be licence
+violation if some are GPL and we don't have the sources.
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+&gt;<i> What has changed in the last week on the BS? Was does this change fix?
+</I>
+I am not aware of any change
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+    <B>Sander Lepik</B> 
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+&gt;<i> And in the last meeting logs for this channel, the reminder was said and
+</I>discussed.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
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+Can this link be sent to list after meeting? Or is this too much asked? Or
+was it sent and i just missed it?
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Mar 3, 2012 7:41 PM, &quot;Oliver Burger&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; And in the last meeting logs for this channel, the reminder was said
+</I>&gt;<i> and discussed.
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can this link be sent to list after meeting? Or is this too much asked?
+</I>&gt;<i> Or was it sent and i just missed it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well, actually I'm sure it could. But why? All meeting logs are publicly 
+available at <A HREF="https://meetbot.mageia.org/">https://meetbot.mageia.org/</A>
+
+I did send those links to the i18n list after meeting s there but most 
+of the time, I just forgot.
+And I think looking at the meetbot page from time to time isn't all that 
+hard and can be done by anyone.
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+&gt;<i> Am 03.03.2012 21:10, schrieb Sander Lepik:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mar 3, 2012 7:41 PM, &quot;Oliver Burger&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;&gt; And in the last meeting logs for this channel, the reminder was said
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and discussed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;&gt; Oliver
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can this link be sent to list after meeting? Or is this too much asked?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Or was it sent and i just missed it?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, actually I'm sure it could. But why? All meeting logs are publicly
+</I>&gt;<i> available at <A HREF="https://meetbot.mageia.org/">https://meetbot.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did send those links to the i18n list after meeting s there but most of
+</I>&gt;<i> the time, I just forgot.
+</I>&gt;<i> And I think looking at the meetbot page from time to time isn't all that
+</I>&gt;<i> hard and can be done by anyone.
+</I>
+Maybe the bot could send it automatically to the right list depending
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+</I>available at <A HREF="https://meetbot.mageia.org/">https://meetbot.mageia.org/</A>
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+Why? Because now i know this link for some time and then i forget it again
+:<i>) Sorry but Mageia isn't the only project where i'm contributing. I just
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Seems the latest network manager is busted...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Won't start or stop properly nor allow networks to actually work...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not sure exactly what is wrong, but I'll try and look into it if noone
+</I>&gt;<i> else does.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> C
+</I>
+I'm working right now on updating it to 0.9 final released at the
+beginning of this week, give me a couple hours to finish and test with
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
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+</I>&gt;<i> The BS seems broken; I submitted this morning kdebase4-workspace, and
+</I>&gt;<i> the build is still in progress (4 hours after). Same thing with
+</I>&gt;<i> gnuradio-3.5.1-8.mga2 i586 (12 hours).
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems that the BS indefinitely retries to build kdebase4-workspace
+</I>&gt;<i> (on <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/,">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/,</A> the build machine regularly changes).
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+kdebase4-workspace still doesn't build on the BS (it builds fine outside 
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+</I>&gt;<i> I'm working right now on updating it to 0.9 final released at the
+</I>&gt;<i> beginning of this week, give me a couple hours to finish and test with
+</I>&gt;<i> this one.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I guess Colin is talking about NetworkManager &amp; not knetworkmanager :)
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+&gt;<i> 03.03.2012 11:24, Michael Scherer skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le vendredi 02 mars 2012 &#224; 20:53 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 20:16:11 schreef Thomas Backlund:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 02.03.2012 21:08, Dimitri Jakov skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Besides... GNOME 3.4 is going to be released on March 28 - does that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Yes we know...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; mean that we won't be able to ship it with Mageia 2?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Nope, we have that as an exception to the freeze...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; (that's why we already run 3.3.x)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; we will have Gnome 3.4.x and KDE 4.8.x in Mageia 2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; also, I hope mariadb-5.5.x final (right now we have 5.5.20 which is the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; alpha version; beta will come quite soon, then the rc and finals follow
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; pretty fast and these only contain bugfixes)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Next time, maybe waiting for the beta would be better, cauldron is not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mean to be a playground for testing upstream softwares when we do not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have a strong assurance that the stable will end i the stable release.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually in this case it is ok, since we've been tracking upstream 5.5.x
+</I>&gt;<i> branch with the target for 5.5.x final, so &quot;alpha&quot; in this case
+</I>&gt;<i> only means fully synced with mysql 5.5 and afaik all intended mariadb
+</I>&gt;<i> patches merged...
+</I>
+yes, and so far that haven't been any complaints yet, waiting for mikala, 
+since he's the most likely person to have issues about it.
+
+&gt;<i> They are only a bit late :/
+</I>
+yes :-(
+
+allthough according to upstream, there seems to be a good chance it will be 
+released as final quite quickly
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+&gt;<i> &gt; If everybody start to do that, we spend more time on upgrading to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; version that should have been stable than fixing others bugs.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And if upstream could also try to be a little bit less original and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; follow some easy to grasp convetion about version number.
+</I>
+yes, it seems they will upgrade the version to +1 for beta and so forth.
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Well, actually I'm sure it could. But why? All meeting logs are publicly
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+</I>&gt;<i> available at <A HREF="https://meetbot.mageia.org/">https://meetbot.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Why? Because now i know this link for some time and then i forget it again
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> :) Sorry but Mageia isn't the only project where i'm contributing. I just
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> can't remember everything. But thanks for the link.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>
+maybe we could have the meetbot send it to another mailing list and the people 
+who don't frequently are able to follow the meetings can subscribe to that.
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+&gt;<i> misc &lt;misc&gt; 0.9.10-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 217731
+</I>&gt;<i> - add libyajl-devel as BuildRequires, should fix #4685
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+&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 1:4.9.1.2-20.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 217265
+</I>&gt;<i> - restore P4000 as it's not causing the the out of memory errors
+</I>
+That is?
+Please include a one liner description of the fixed issue.
+Especially on such a core package...
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> virhe: indeksin Group avaus db4:ll&#228; ei onnistu - Muistin varaaminen ei
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> onnistu (12)
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I wonder, could it be because of:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tv &lt;tv&gt; 1:4.9.1.2-17.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 215717
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - patch 5000: switch back to former, much smaller BDB memory pool size
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (RhBug:752897)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i tried to remove it for testing purpose but we still have the issue.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thierry do you see what may be the culprit for this ?
+</I>
+As previously said, I'm aware of only one cause: sg using librpm
+having crashed previously
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+&gt;<i> On 3 March 2012 14:56, tmb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 1:4.9.1.2-20.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 217265
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - restore P4000 as it's not causing the the out of memory errors
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> That is?
+</I>&gt;<i> Please include a one liner description of the fixed issue.
+</I>&gt;<i> Especially on such a core package...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+I guess he means this one,
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+here's Luc encountering it in BS:
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012553.html">http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012553.html</A>
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+    <B>Charles A Edwards</B> 
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+It occurred when using urpme to remove old kernel and nvidia-dkms
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+Did I say 2?  I lied.
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+Mageia release 2 (Cauldron) for x86_64$
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+&gt;<i> Error/warning is attached.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It occurred when using urpme to remove old kernel and nvidia-dkms
+</I>&gt;<i> module.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I><A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4783">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4783</A>
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>     Charles
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+&gt;<i> 04.03.2012 03:41, Thierry Vignaud kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 3 March 2012 14:56, tmb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 1:4.9.1.2-20.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 217265
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - restore P4000 as it's not causing the the out of memory errors
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That is?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please include a one liner description of the fixed issue.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Especially on such a core package...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess he means this one,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> here's Luc encountering it in BS:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012553.html">http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012553.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and me on my cauldron box:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012517.html">http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012517.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+i have this when installing buildrequires of libreoffice in the BS too
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+&gt;<i> On 4 March 2012 00:56, misc &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; misc &lt;misc&gt; 0.9.10-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; + Revision: 217731
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - add libyajl-devel as BuildRequires, should fix #4685
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> That is?
+</I>&gt;<i> Please include a one liner description...
+</I>
+that is that libyajl support was missing.
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+&gt;<i> And now the reason why i started this thread: i was not sure if this date is confirmed. As 
+</I>&gt;<i> you can see from <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_development</A> there have been delays. How 
+</I>&gt;<i> do i know that this will really happen?
+</I>
+Because there is no possible reasons to block version freeze, since
+that's a 1 line change on a configuration file.
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+Why assume that we are late ?
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+&gt;<i> Other additional interesting features:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * New GUI. Now there are toolbars, the control at the bottom is different
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;(and it changes if the window is made smaller), the icons can be changed
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;(several icon themes are available). In fullscreen mode the floating
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;control that appears when you move the mouse to the bottom of the screen
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;is new too and this time the video doesn't resize when it shows.
+</I>&gt;<i> * Configurable key shortcuts. A shortcut editor has been added, it's
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;located at &quot;Preferences-&gt;Mouse &amp; keyboard&quot;. Please read
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;Configurable_shortcuts.txt.
+</I>&gt;<i> * Support for VCD. Now you can also play VCD discs.
+</I>&gt;<i> * System tray icon. Now it's possible to leave SMPlayer running in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;system tray. This feature requires Qt 4.2.
+</I>&gt;<i> * Added some new functions, like pan&amp;scan, stay on top, set the size
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;of the window...
+</I>&gt;<i> * Improved support for subtitles. For instance, now you can load a idx/sub
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;file and you'll be able to select among all languages that the file
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;provides. You can have a mkv file with embedded subtitles, load an
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;idx/sub file (or srt, sub...) and all subtitles will be available.
+</I>&gt;<i> * New translations. SMPlayer 0.5.0 is translated (totally or partially) to
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;the following languages: Bulgarian, Czech, German, Spanish, French,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;Hungarian, Italian, Japanese, Georgian, Dutch, Polish, Brazilian Portuguese,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;Russian, Slovak, Serbian, Swedish, Turkish, Ukrainian, Simplified-Chinese
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;and Traditional Chinese. By the way, now it's possible to change the language
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;at run-time.
+</I>
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+    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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+<PRE>Le samedi 03 mars 2012 &#224; 23:35 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op zaterdag 03 maart 2012 22:34:41 schreef Sander Lepik:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Well, actually I'm sure it could. But why? All meeting logs are publicly
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; available at <A HREF="https://meetbot.mageia.org/">https://meetbot.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Why? Because now i know this link for some time and then i forget it again
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; :) Sorry but Mageia isn't the only project where i'm contributing. I just
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; can't remember everything. But thanks for the link.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sander
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe we could have the meetbot send it to another mailing list and the people 
+</I>&gt;<i> who don't frequently are able to follow the meetings can subscribe to that.
+</I>
+Send patchs upstream, and we will use it sooner or later.
+
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+    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 02 mars 2012 &#224; 23:46 +0000, Barry Jackson a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I have been working on oce, but need help deciding on where to put it 
+</I>&gt;<i> and with what license.
+</I>&gt;<i> Oce is the OPENCascade Community Edition.
+</I>&gt;<i> Earlier versions are/were packaged by Mdv and Fedora, and recently Deb 
+</I>&gt;<i> has included it.
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems from OPENCascade's own license literature to be LGPL-like with 
+</I>&gt;<i> differences. (but rpmlint is not happy with that).
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora consider it non-free, but since all the source is available and 
+</I>&gt;<i> redistributable I don't know why, so ignore my comment on line 1 of the 
+</I>&gt;<i> spec.
+</I>&gt;<i> There are links in the spec to license references.
+</I>
+See <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458974">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458974</A> 
+( notably the comment from #10 ). I would push this to non-free, because
+that would be a problem for a company.
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 01:49, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 3 March 2012 01:52, D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> virhe: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> virhe: indeksin Group avaus db4:ll&#228; ei onnistu - Muistin varaaminen ei
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> onnistu (12)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I wonder, could it be because of:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tv &lt;tv&gt; 1:4.9.1.2-17.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 215717
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - patch 5000: switch back to former, much smaller BDB memory pool size
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (RhBug:752897)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i tried to remove it for testing purpose but we still have the issue.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thierry do you see what may be the culprit for this ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As previously said, I'm aware of only one cause: sg using librpm
+</I>&gt;<i> having crashed previously
+</I>
+The problem is not this one but the other one mentionned lated in the thread
+When installing too many packages (like when building
+kdebase4-workspace or compiz) it fails with:
+
+
+  641/764: lib64webkitgtk1.0_0   #############################################
+removing installed rpms (xdg-user-dirs-gtk-0.8-6.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+webkit-1.7.5-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64gtk+-x11-2.0_0-2.24.10-3.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64gail18-2.24.10-3.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64icu48-4.8.1.1-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm gtk+2.0-2.24.10-3.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64gtk+2.0_0-2.24.10-3.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64javascriptcoregtk1.0_0-1.7.5-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64webkitgtk1.0_0-1.7.5-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+webkit1.0-1.7.5-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm) from /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
+
+
+retrieving rpm files from medium &quot;core_release&quot;...
+    <A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64xft-devel-2.2.0-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64xft-devel-2.2.0-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm</A>
+        0% of 0 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 0
+        ^M        100% of 16235 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed =
+7927k                 ^M
+                                ^M
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64cairo-devel-1.10.2-6.mga2.x86_64.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64cairo-devel-1.10.2-6.mga2.x86_64.rpm</A>
+        100% of 543k completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 24.9M
+        ^M
+                  ^M
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64pixman-devel-0.24.4-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64pixman-devel-0.24.4-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm</A>
+        100% of 15972 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 2118k
+        ^M
+                  ^M
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64directfb-devel-1.5.3-4.mga2.x86_64.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64directfb-devel-1.5.3-4.mga2.x86_64.rpm</A>
+        100% of 268k completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 26.7M
+        ^M
+                  ^M
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64gdk_pixbuf2.0-devel-2.25.2-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64gdk_pixbuf2.0-devel-2.25.2-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm</A>
+        100% of 187k completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 18.8M
+        ^M
+                  ^M
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64rsvg2_2-2.35.2-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64rsvg2_2-2.35.2-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm</A>
+        100% of 84263 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 59.9M
+        ^M
+                  ^M
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64croco-devel-0.6.3-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64croco-devel-0.6.3-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm</A>
+        100% of 85150 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 57.8M
+        ^M
+                  ^M
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64pango1.0-devel-1.29.5-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64pango1.0-devel-1.29.5-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm</A>
+        100% of 101k completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 66.7M
+        ^M
+                  ^Mretrieved
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release</A>
+lib64xft-devel-2.2.0-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64cairo-devel-1.10.2-6.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64pixman-devel-0.24.4-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64directfb-devel-1.5.3-4.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64gdk_pixbuf2.0-devel-2.25.2-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64rsvg2_2-2.35.2-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64croco-devel-0.6.3-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64pango1.0-devel-1.29.5-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+...retrieving done
+installing lib64xft-devel-2.2.0-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64cairo-devel-1.10.2-6.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64directfb-devel-1.5.3-4.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64pixman-devel-0.24.4-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64gdk_pixbuf2.0-devel-2.25.2-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64rsvg2_2-2.35.2-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64croco-devel-0.6.3-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64pango1.0-devel-1.29.5-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm from
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms
+starting installing packages
+created transaction for installing on / (remove=0, install=0, upgrade=8)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Obsoletename index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Group index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Requirename index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Triggername index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Dirnames index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Installtid index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Sigmd5 index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Sha1header index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+removing installed rpms (lib64xft-devel-2.2.0-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64cairo-devel-1.10.2-6.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64directfb-devel-1.5.3-4.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64pixman-devel-0.24.4-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64gdk_pixbuf2.0-devel-2.25.2-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64rsvg2_2-2.35.2-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64croco-devel-0.6.3-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64pango1.0-devel-1.29.5-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm) from
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms
+retrieving rpm files from medium &quot;core_release&quot;...
+    <A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64boost_system1.48.0-1.48.0-8.mga2.x86_64.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64boost_system1.48.0-1.48.0-8.mga2.x86_64.rpm</A>
+        0% of 0 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 0
+        ^M        100% of 12974 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed =
+6334k                 ^M
+                                ^M
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64bluez-devel-4.96-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64bluez-devel-4.96-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm</A>
+        100% of 61250 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 4912k
+        ^M
+                  ^M
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64rsvg2-devel-2.35.2-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64rsvg2-devel-2.35.2-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm</A>
+        100% of 30661 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 21.0M
+        ^M
+                  ^M
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64boost_filesystem1.48.0-1.48.0-8.mga2.x86_64.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64boost_filesystem1.48.0-1.48.0-8.mga2.x86_64.rpm</A>
+        100% of 48274 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 26.2M
+        ^M
+                  ^M
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64Qgpsmm20-3.3-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64Qgpsmm20-3.3-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm</A>
+        100% of 43401 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 29.4M
+        ^M
+                  ^M
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64wayland-devel-0.85.0-4.mga2.x86_64.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64wayland-devel-0.85.0-4.mga2.x86_64.rpm</A>
+        100% of 26375 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 28.1M
+        ^M
+                  ^M
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64gbm1-devel-8.0.1-3.mga2.x86_64.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64gbm1-devel-8.0.1-3.mga2.x86_64.rpm</A>
+        100% of 17003 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 18.1M
+        ^M
+                  ^M
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64gpsd-devel-3.3-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/lib64gpsd-devel-3.3-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm</A>
+        100% of 54055 completed, ETA = --:--:--, speed = 7998k
+        ^M
+                  ^Mretrieved
+<A HREF="http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release">http://repository.mageia.org/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release</A>
+lib64boost_system1.48.0-1.48.0-8.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64bluez-devel-4.96-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64rsvg2-devel-2.35.2-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64boost_filesystem1.48.0-1.48.0-8.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64Qgpsmm20-3.3-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64wayland-devel-0.85.0-4.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64gbm1-devel-8.0.1-3.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64gpsd-devel-3.3-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+...retrieving done
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+installing lib64boost_system1.48.0-1.48.0-8.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64wayland-devel-0.85.0-4.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64bluez-devel-4.96-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64boost_filesystem1.48.0-1.48.0-8.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64rsvg2-devel-2.35.2-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64Qgpsmm20-3.3-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64gbm1-devel-8.0.1-3.mga2.x86_64.rpm
+lib64gpsd-devel-3.3-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm from /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
+starting installing packages
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+unable to open rpmdb
+
+I would think we are leaking locks as it happens in a small
+transaction after installing 641 packages and then happens in other
+transactions.
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 11:07, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I would think we are leaking locks as it happens in a small
+</I>&gt;<i> transaction after installing 641 packages and then happens in other
+</I>&gt;<i> transactions.
+</I>
+And it seems reproducible given a repository state:
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at jonund</A> ~]# for i in
+/home/iurt/iurt/cauldron/core/release/20120303082019.lmenut.valstar.17715-x86_64/log/kdebase4-workspace-4.8.0-3.mga2//install_deps-*;
+do tail -n 100 $i | grep /76 | tail -n 1; done | cut -f1 -d/
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 11:36, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Mar 4, 2012 at 11:07, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would think we are leaking locks as it happens in a small
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> transaction after installing 641 packages and then happens in other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> transactions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And it seems reproducible given a repository state:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at jonund</A> ~]# for i in
+</I>&gt;<i> /home/iurt/iurt/cauldron/core/release/20120303082019.lmenut.valstar.17715-x86_64/log/kdebase4-workspace-4.8.0-3.mga2//install_deps-*;
+</I>&gt;<i> do tail -n 100 $i | grep /76 | tail -n 1; done | cut -f1 -d/
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;649
+</I>&gt;<i>  [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>  649
+</I>It seems indeed easy to reproduce, I installed task-kde in a chroot
+and it failed after 649/1318 packages:
+
+installing libdiscid0-0.2.2-5.mga1.i586.rpm
+kdegraphics-mobipocket-4.8.0-1.mga2.i586.rpm
+kmousetool-4.8.0-1.mga2.i586.rpm libgnome2-2.32.1-8.mga2.i586.rpm
+libbonoboui-2.24.5-3.mga2.i586.rpm libgnome2_0-2.32.1-8.mga2.i586.rpm
+libglade2.0_0-2.6.4-6.mga2.i586.rpm
+libbonoboui2_0-2.24.5-3.mga2.i586.rpm from /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Basenames index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Group index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Requirename index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Triggername index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Dirnames index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Installtid index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Sigmd5 index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
+error: rpmdb: Lock table is out of available locker entries
+error: cannot open Sha1header index using db4 - Cannot allocate memory (12)
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+    <B>Barry Jackson</B> 
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+</I>&gt;<i> See <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458974">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458974</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ( notably the comment from #10 ). I would push this to non-free, because
+</I>&gt;<i> that would be a problem for a company.
+</I>
+OK - Is that:  &quot;--define section=non-free/release&quot; (I never used that 
+before)
+
+What about the license field in the spec? I suspect that the BS will 
+reject anything that issues an rpmlint warning - and everything I have 
+tried so far does. e.g. &quot;LGPL-like&quot;
+
+I am also somewhat confused by the modular approach used by Debian to 
+package this. It seems over-complicated, but I may be missing the point.
+I opted for a single library, -devel and main.
+Any thoughts on this?
+
+The object is to provide needed Requires/BuildRequires for FreeCAD which 
+I am also working on.
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+Barry
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+&gt;<i> On 04/03/12 11:01, Michael Scherer wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458974">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458974</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ( notably the comment from #10 ). I would push this to non-free, because
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that would be a problem for a company.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OK - Is that: &#160;&quot;--define section=non-free/release&quot; (I never used that
+</I>&gt;<i> before)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What about the license field in the spec? I suspect that the BS will reject
+</I>&gt;<i> anything that issues an rpmlint warning - and everything I have tried so far
+</I>&gt;<i> does. e.g. &quot;LGPL-like&quot;
+</I>
+For non free we have generic things like Freeware.
+I haven't read the licence but if it is non free mentioning LGPL would
+be misleading
+
+&gt;<i> I am also somewhat confused by the modular approach used by Debian to
+</I>&gt;<i> package this. It seems over-complicated, but I may be missing the point.
+</I>&gt;<i> I opted for a single library, -devel and main.
+</I>&gt;<i> Any thoughts on this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The object is to provide needed Requires/BuildRequires for FreeCAD which I
+</I>&gt;<i> am also working on.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Barry
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+&gt;<i> Why assume that we are late ?
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+&gt;<i> &gt; maybe we could have the meetbot send it to another mailing list and the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; people who don't frequently are able to follow the meetings can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; subscribe to that.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Send patchs upstream, and we will use it sooner or later.
+</I>
+I'm offering it as an alternative suggestion to that person who complains of 
+not being in the meetings...
+
+I'm almost always in the meetings, and if not, i can find the meetinglogs 
+without a mail being sent to me...
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+though if this suggestion is fitting for that person, he sure can file some 
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+<PRE>2012/3/4 mitya &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Name &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: farstream &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version &#160; &#160; : 0.1.1 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release &#160; &#160; : 3.mga2 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Build Date: Sun Mar &#160;4 14:14:34 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group &#160; &#160; &#160; : Networking/Instant messaging &#160; Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: 1267063 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;License: LGPLv2+
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature &#160; : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager &#160; &#160;: mitya &lt;mitya&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; : <A HREF="http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Farstream">http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Farstream</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary &#160; &#160; : An audio/video communications framework
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> The Farstream (formerly Farsight) project is an effort to create a framework to
+</I>&gt;<i> deal with all known audio/video conferencing protocols. On one side it offers a
+</I>&gt;<i> generic API that makes it possible to write plugins for different streaming
+</I>&gt;<i> protocols, on the other side it offers an API for clients to use those plugins.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The main target clients for Farstream are Instant Messaging applications. These
+</I>&gt;<i> applications should be able to use Farstream for all their Audio/Video
+</I>&gt;<i> conferencing needs without having to worry about any of the lower level
+</I>&gt;<i> streaming and NAT traversal issues.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mitya &lt;mitya&gt; 0.1.1-3.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 217954
+</I>&gt;<i> - Obsoletes: gstreamer0.10-farsight2
+</I>
+I guess you should have waited some time until we have ported all apps
+from farsight2 to farstream.
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+There are still apps, like amsn, which requires farsight2.
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+    <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Why assume that we are late ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If there is no post &quot;we are late&quot;, then we are not.
+</I>
+I remember my driving school teacher said something similar, 19 years ago. He said that unless he said otherwise I should follow the road and go straight ahead in cross roads.
+It was then that I learned the principle that unless I'm told otherwise, asume one is on track and on time. Usually it is correct.
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+This is just a headsup...
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+As we will ship Mageia 2 with kernel 3.3 I'm currently in progress of
+pushing 3.3-rc6 to the mirrors, starting with kernel-linus and then
+later tonight the default kernel so all can start testing it...
+
+
+I dont expect much trouble with it as it upstream changes has slowed
+down, and to quote Linus: &quot;In fact, it's been calm enough that this
+*might* be the last -rc, but we'll see how the upcoming week goes.&quot;
+
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+3.2.9-2.mga2 on your systems until you are sure the 3.3 series works for
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+    <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> 
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+<PRE>On Saturday, March 03, 2012 12:13:14 PM Pascal Terjan wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; I am afraid I would have to redo about 300+ pear package specs this close
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to the version freeze. I do not have the time for this.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> That's very annoying as it means we depend on external system to be
+</I>&gt;<i> able to rebuild the package if we need for any reason (like security
+</I>&gt;<i> updates).
+</I>&gt;<i> I hope this does not include any compiled module as it may be licence
+</I>&gt;<i> violation if some are GPL and we don't have the sources.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What has changed in the last week on the BS? Was does this change fix?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I am not aware of any change.
+</I>
+The last successful build went through Feb. 10, 2012. I haven't upgraded and 
+built any after that date until last weekend when they all failed to build.
+I would have to change 80+ packages that are now using the pear type spec. I 
+don't have the bandwith to do that.
+
+The message I get is this:
+
+Unknown channel &quot;pear.horde.org&quot;
+Parsing of package.xml from file &quot;/var/tmp/pearwYoowh/package.xml&quot; failed
+Cannot initialize '/home/iurt/rpm/SOURCES/Horde_Itip-1.0.7.tgz', invalid or 
+missing package file
+Package &quot;/home/iurt/rpm/SOURCES/Horde_Itip-1.0.7.tgz&quot; is not valid
+install failed.
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+Best regards
+Thomas Spuhler
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+    <B>Julien</B> 
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+Luc Menut &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lmenut at free.fr</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> Le 03/03/2012 14:04, Luc Menut a &#233;crit :
+</I>(...)
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> kdebase4-workspace still doesn't build on the BS (it builds fine outside 
+</I>&gt;<i> iurt).
+</I>&gt;<i> compiz seems to have the same pb.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Luc
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+I concur, compiz is stuck since 12h, it switches between building and todo.
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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+</I>&gt;<i> The last successful build went through Feb. 10, 2012. I haven't upgraded and 
+</I>&gt;<i> built any after that date until last weekend when they all failed to build.
+</I>&gt;<i> I would have to change 80+ packages that are now using the pear type spec. I 
+</I>&gt;<i> don't have the bandwith to do that.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The message I get is this:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Unknown channel &quot;pear.horde.org&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> Parsing of package.xml from file &quot;/var/tmp/pearwYoowh/package.xml&quot; failed
+</I>&gt;<i> Cannot initialize '/home/iurt/rpm/SOURCES/Horde_Itip-1.0.7.tgz', invalid or 
+</I>&gt;<i> missing package file
+</I>&gt;<i> Package &quot;/home/iurt/rpm/SOURCES/Horde_Itip-1.0.7.tgz&quot; is not valid
+</I>&gt;<i> install failed.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+Well, you better start fixing the packages...
+
+Maybe you can download &amp; fix it in the specs only to save bw....
+
+Anything building on BS must build with only official mageia repos...
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+Otherwise we wont know what ends up in the packages.
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+--
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+&gt;<i> Am 03.03.2012 21:10, schrieb Sander Lepik:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mar 3, 2012 7:41 PM, &quot;Oliver Burger&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; And in the last meeting logs for this channel, the reminder was said
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and discussed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Oliver
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can this link be sent to list after meeting? Or is this too much asked?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Or was it sent and i just missed it?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, actually I'm sure it could. But why? All meeting logs are publicly 
+</I>&gt;<i> available at <A HREF="https://meetbot.mageia.org/">https://meetbot.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did send those links to the i18n list after meeting s there but most of the 
+</I>&gt;<i> time, I just forgot.
+</I>&gt;<i> And I think looking at the meetbot page from time to time isn't all that hard 
+</I>&gt;<i> and can be done by anyone.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>On a related note, as i was absent from last meeting, which was
+announced by ennael on 29.02.2012 15:16, why can't i find the
+logs for that meeting assuming it did happen (as there's no
+follow-up posts to that meeting announce that meeting had
+been cancelled or delayed)
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+    <B>Thibaut FRANCOIS</B> 
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+since the last update of cauldron today, I lost the network.
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+I launch command systemctl status sytem.network, the return is :
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+system.service
+       Loaded : error (Reason : No such file or directory)
+       Active : inactive (dead)
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+And I can't start network service with system manager (systemctl error)
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+Any idea ?
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+    <B>Shlomi Fish</B> 
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+On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 21:19:37 +0100
+Thibaut FRANCOIS &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thibautf at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> since the last update of cauldron today, I lost the network.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I launch command systemctl status sytem.network, the return is :
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> system.service
+</I>&gt;<i>        Loaded : error (Reason : No such file or directory)
+</I>&gt;<i>        Active : inactive (dead)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And I can't start network service with system manager (systemctl error)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Any idea ?
+</I>
+It might be this bug:
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+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4780">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4780</A>
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+To workaround it, disable NetworkManager , change
+&quot;NM_CONTROLLED=yes&quot; to &quot;NM_CONTROLLED=no&quot;
+in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (or of your
+networking interface is) and restart the &quot;network&quot; service&quot;.
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+Regards,
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+	Shlomi Fish
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+    <B>Jeff Robins</B> 
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+Bug 1726 (<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1726">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1726</A>) asks for
+ntfs-config to be added to the Mageia packages.  ntfs-config requires
+hal to access removable media and, at least on my test machine, fails to
+run without hal installed.  ntfs-config does seem to have some support,
+a patch was added 20 weeks ago.
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+ntfs-config doesn't seem to add anything new, just make it a little
+easier to mount an control access to ntfs partitions
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+I know hal should now be obsolete and is not installed by default in
+Mageia 2, but we do have hal packages.
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+Would it be safe to install hal on a machine running Mageia 2 (Cauldron)?
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+Do we plan on supporting hal long term?
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+Any thoughts?
+
+- --Jeff
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+&gt;&gt;<i> I guess he means this one,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> here's Luc encountering it in BS:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012553.html">http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012553.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and me on my cauldron box:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012517.html">http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012517.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i have this when installing buildrequires of libreoffice in the BS too
+</I>
+I suggest rebuilding chroot tarballs after removing /var/lib/rpm/_db*
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+    <B>zezinho</B> 
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+<PRE>hi, I could test Beta1 with real hardware i586. After install, it locked up at 
+boot (even Magickeys are dead). After a big diggin, it is the b43 kernel 
+driver that locks everything at boot when it is loaded without firmware files.
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+This is a regression, a bug report is done : 
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4798">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4798</A>
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+Now the question :  should we default installing b43-openfwwf as it is an 
+open-source firmware? Not only it solves this bug, but it also allows direct 
+use of Broadcom 4312 Wifi cards.
+
+zezinho
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+PS: Another problem is that b43 driver uses several firmware files for several 
+different hardware, and b43-openfwwf only brings one of them. So it will not be 
+usefull for any b43 hardware.
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+<PRE>On Mar 5, 2012 8:03 AM, &quot;Thierry Vignaud&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> On 4 March 2012 10:26, D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I guess he means this one,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; here's Luc encountering it in BS:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012553.html">http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012553.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; and me on my cauldron box:
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i have this when installing buildrequires of libreoffice in the BS too
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I suggest rebuilding chroot tarballs after removing /var/lib/rpm/_db*
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+<PRE>Am 05.03.2012 09:01, schrieb Jeff Robins:
+&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+</I>&gt;<i> Hash: SHA256
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bug 1726 (<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1726">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1726</A>) asks for
+</I>&gt;<i> ntfs-config to be added to the Mageia packages.  ntfs-config requires
+</I>&gt;<i> hal to access removable media and, at least on my test machine, fails to
+</I>&gt;<i> run without hal installed.  ntfs-config does seem to have some support,
+</I>&gt;<i> a patch was added 20 weeks ago.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ntfs-config doesn't seem to add anything new, just make it a little
+</I>&gt;<i> easier to mount an control access to ntfs partitions
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know hal should now be obsolete and is not installed by default in
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2, but we do have hal packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Would it be safe to install hal on a machine running Mageia 2 (Cauldron)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do we plan on supporting hal long term?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any thoughts?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - --Jeff
+</I>&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
+</I>&gt;<i> Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux)
+</I>&gt;<i> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mageia - <A HREF="http://enigmail.mozdev.org/">http://enigmail.mozdev.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> iF4EAREIAAYFAk9Ucs8ACgkQspwAgUSFJCwBWAD9GZnz59oDkNTehxIRGDs48bpq
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+</I>&gt;<i> =fOSL
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>hal is obsolete, and should not be reintroduced.
+Also please take a look at Funda's comment in the bug report.
+There's no need for ntfs-config, as removable partitions
+aren't affected and internal partitions get fstab entries at
+installation time, if they're present then.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; and me on my cauldron box:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012517.html">http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012517.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; i have this when installing buildrequires of libreoffice in the BS too
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I suggest rebuilding chroot tarballs after removing /var/lib/rpm/_db*
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wanted to do that last night but iurt code is already removing them at the
+</I>&gt;<i> end of chroot generation
+</I>
+urpmi fails to auto close the rpmdb, thus we keep the DB open more &amp; more
+until we break.
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+Just rebuild urpmi with this patch (-R is needed)
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+We'd this issue in the past, we fixed it but we mush have got some
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+&gt;<i> On 5 March 2012 09:40, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and me on my cauldron box:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012517.html">http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012517.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> i have this when installing buildrequires of libreoffice in the BS too
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I suggest rebuilding chroot tarballs after removing /var/lib/rpm/_db*
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I wanted to do that last night but iurt code is already removing them at the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> end of chroot generation
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi fails to auto close the rpmdb, thus we keep the DB open more &amp; more
+</I>&gt;<i> until we break.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Just rebuild urpmi with this patch (-R is needed)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> We'd this issue in the past, we fixed it but we mush have got some
+</I>&gt;<i> circular dependency again somewhere.
+</I>
+
+Just applied and submitted to BS
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+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This is just a headsup...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> As we will ship Mageia 2 with kernel 3.3 I'm currently in progress of
+</I>&gt;<i> pushing 3.3-rc6 to the mirrors, starting with kernel-linus and then
+</I>&gt;<i> later tonight the default kernel so all can start testing it...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I dont expect much trouble with it as it upstream changes has slowed
+</I>&gt;<i> down, and to quote Linus: &quot;In fact, it's been calm enough that this
+</I>&gt;<i> *might* be the last -rc, but we'll see how the upcoming week goes.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> But anyway, regressions can always happend so you can keep the latest
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.2.9-2.mga2 on your systems until you are sure the 3.3 series works for
+</I>&gt;<i> you...
+</I>
+Ohhhh now this gives me a dilemma re some PA related things that I was
+holding off on applying until 3.3....
+
+Will give it some thought and see how we'll be getting on with upstream
+release process :D
+
+Col
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+-- 
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+&gt;<i> 05.03.2012 15:12, Thierry Vignaud skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 5 March 2012 09:40, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and me on my cauldron box:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012517.html">http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012517.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> i have this when installing buildrequires of libreoffice in the BS too
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I suggest rebuilding chroot tarballs after removing /var/lib/rpm/_db*
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I wanted to do that last night but iurt code is already removing them at the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> end of chroot generation
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> urpmi fails to auto close the rpmdb, thus we keep the DB open more &amp; more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> until we break.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just rebuild urpmi with this patch (-R is needed)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We'd this issue in the past, we fixed it but we mush have got some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> circular dependency again somewhere.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just applied and submitted to BS
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
+  875/875: libexttextcat-devel   #############################################
+removing installed rpms (libexttextcat-devel-3.2.0-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm)
+from /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
+You should restart your computer for consolekit, dbus, glibc,
+kernel-desktop-3.2.9-2.mga2
+D: [iurt_root_command] Success!
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+the  Buildrequires have been installed correctly on the BS for libreoffice  \o/
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Mar 5, 2012 at 2:39 PM, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 05.03.2012 15:12, Thierry Vignaud skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 5 March 2012 09:40, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and me on my cauldron box:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012517.html">http://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012517.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> i have this when installing buildrequires of libreoffice in the BS too
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I suggest rebuilding chroot tarballs after removing /var/lib/rpm/_db*
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I wanted to do that last night but iurt code is already removing them at the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> end of chroot generation
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> urpmi fails to auto close the rpmdb, thus we keep the DB open more &amp; more
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> until we break.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just rebuild urpmi with this patch (-R is needed)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We'd this issue in the past, we fixed it but we mush have got some
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> circular dependency again somewhere.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just applied and submitted to BS
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;875/875: libexttextcat-devel &#160; #############################################
+</I>&gt;<i> removing installed rpms (libexttextcat-devel-3.2.0-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm)
+</I>&gt;<i> from /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
+</I>&gt;<i> You should restart your computer for consolekit, dbus, glibc,
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel-desktop-3.2.9-2.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> D: [iurt_root_command] Success!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the &#160;Buildrequires have been installed correctly on the BS for libreoffice &#160;\o/
+</I>
+And compiz was uploaded :)
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+&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 6.45-3.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 218595
+</I>&gt;<i> - revert the removal of refcount workaround as it breaks BS (tv)
+</I>
+Actually it doesn't break anything.
+This worked fine between 2009 &amp; 2012.
+We must have got some circular dependancy that defeats perl's GC.
+The right changelog would be sg like:
+   &quot;introduce back breaking cycles b/c of a new cycle regression&quot;
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+BTW, please rebuild drakx-installer-stage2 with fixed urpmi.
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> urpmi fails to auto close the rpmdb, thus we keep the DB open more &amp; more
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> until we break.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just rebuild urpmi with this patch (-R is needed)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We'd this issue in the past, we fixed it but we mush have got some
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> circular dependency again somewhere.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just applied and submitted to BS
+</I>
+(...)
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+&gt;&gt;<i> the &#160;Buildrequires have been installed correctly on the BS for libreoffice &#160;\o/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And compiz was uploaded :)
+</I>
+Here's the real fix
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+I'll commit it tonight and release a new urpmi
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 5 March 2012 15:06, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; urpmi fails to auto close the rpmdb, thus we keep the DB open more &amp;
+</I>more
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; until we break.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Just rebuild urpmi with this patch (-R is needed)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; We'd this issue in the past, we fixed it but we mush have got some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; circular dependency again somewhere.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Just applied and submitted to BS
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the  Buildrequires have been installed correctly on the BS for
+</I>libreoffice  \o/
+&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And compiz was uploaded :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here's the real fix
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll commit it tonight and release a new urpmi
+</I>
+Is there an easy way to detect those circular dependency so we can fix
+eventually thoses ? ( at least in kde :p)
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+</I>&gt;<i> Le 5 mars 2012 10:37, &quot;Thierry Vignaud&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; On 5 March 2012 15:06, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; urpmi fails to auto close the rpmdb, thus we keep the DB open
+</I>&gt;<i> more &amp; more
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; until we break.
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Just rebuild urpmi with this patch (-R is needed)
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; We'd this issue in the past, we fixed it but we mush have got some
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; circular dependency again somewhere.
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Just applied and submitted to BS
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; (...)
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt; the  Buildrequires have been installed correctly on the BS for
+</I>&gt;<i> libreoffice  \o/
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt; And compiz was uploaded :)
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; Here's the real fix
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; I'll commit it tonight and release a new urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there an easy way to detect those circular dependency so we can fix
+</I>&gt;<i> eventually thoses ? ( at least in kde :p)
+</I>This is about circular dependencies inside perl code, what kind of help 
+are you refering to here ?
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+The more pretentious a corporate name, the smaller the organization
+		-- Murphy's Laws on Work n&#176;20
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+</I>Wouldn't using weak references help fixing this kind of issues ?
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Le 05/03/2012 15:43, John Balcaen a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 5 mars 2012 10:37, &quot;Thierry Vignaud&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt; On 5 March 2012 15:06, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; urpmi fails to auto close the rpmdb, thus we keep the DB open
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> more &amp; more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; until we break.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Just rebuild urpmi with this patch (-R is needed)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; We'd this issue in the past, we fixed it but we mush have got
+</I>some
+&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; circular dependency again somewhere.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt;&gt; Just applied and submitted to BS
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt; (...)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;&gt; the  Buildrequires have been installed correctly on the BS for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libreoffice  \o/
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt; &gt; And compiz was uploaded :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt; Here's the real fix
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  &gt; I'll commit it tonight and release a new urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is there an easy way to detect those circular dependency so we can fix
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> eventually thoses ? ( at least in kde :p)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is about circular dependencies inside perl code, what kind of help
+</I>are you refering to here ?
+&gt;<i>
+</I>I misread the previous mail.
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi Thibaut,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 21:19:37 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> Thibaut FRANCOIS &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thibautf at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> since the last update of cauldron today, I lost the network.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I launch command systemctl status sytem.network, the return is :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> system.service
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Loaded : error (Reason : No such file or directory)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Active : inactive (dead)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And I can't start network service with system manager (systemctl error)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any idea ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It might be this bug:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4780">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4780</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To workaround it, disable NetworkManager , change
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;NM_CONTROLLED=yes&quot; to &quot;NM_CONTROLLED=no&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (or of your
+</I>&gt;<i> networking interface is) and restart the &quot;network&quot; service&quot;.
+</I>
+This problem is an ongoing issue in one of my Cauldron installations.
+After not being able to connect wifi (no matter with or without
+networkmanager) for a longer time it worked since last Saturday, but
+with todays updates it stops working again, or better: is back to
+connect / disconnect continuously.
+
+Weird thing: it only shows these problems in the installation I set up
+with Beta1 - in another Cauldron on the same machine, based on Alpha1
+(updated as of today), wifi has been running stable all the time. This
+brings me to the conclusion that there is another reason for this
+ongoing issue.
+
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+    <B>paulo</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/4 Shlomi Fish&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">shlomif at shlomifish.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Thibaut,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 21:19:37 +0100
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thibaut FRANCOIS&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thibautf at gmail.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> since the last update of cauldron today, I lost the network.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I launch command systemctl status sytem.network, the return is :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> system.service
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>         Loaded : error (Reason : No such file or directory)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>         Active : inactive (dead)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And I can't start network service with system manager (systemctl error)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any idea ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It might be this bug:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4780">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4780</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To workaround it, disable NetworkManager , change
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;NM_CONTROLLED=yes&quot; to &quot;NM_CONTROLLED=no&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (or of your
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> networking interface is) and restart the &quot;network&quot; service&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> This problem is an ongoing issue in one of my Cauldron installations.
+</I>&gt;<i> After not being able to connect wifi (no matter with or without
+</I>&gt;<i> networkmanager) for a longer time it worked since last Saturday, but
+</I>&gt;<i> with todays updates it stops working again, or better: is back to
+</I>&gt;<i> connect / disconnect continuously.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Weird thing: it only shows these problems in the installation I set up
+</I>&gt;<i> with Beta1 - in another Cauldron on the same machine, based on Alpha1
+</I>&gt;<i> (updated as of today), wifi has been running stable all the time. This
+</I>&gt;<i> brings me to the conclusion that there is another reason for this
+</I>&gt;<i> ongoing issue.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>i had the same issue....resolved with uninstallation of 
+networkmanager...dont know why?????
+
+-- 
+Paulo SANTOS
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 05/03/2012 16:43, paulo a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> i had the same issue....resolved with uninstallation of
+</I>&gt;<i> networkmanager...dont know why?????
+</I>Try latest release, and see related bug numbers for detailed explanations:
+
+* lun. mars 05 2012 mitya &lt;mitya&gt; 0.9.3.995-2.mga2
++ Revision: 218275
+- Fix NM startup bug (GNOME #671276, Mageia #4780
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+-- 
+BOFH excuse #69:
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+&gt;<i> +2011-04-16 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fwang at mandriva.org</A>&gt; 0.31.5
+</I>&gt;<i> +    * remove empty dirs for perl modules
+</I>&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;<i>  2010-11-22 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fwang at mandriva.org</A>&gt; 0.31.4
+</I>&gt;<i>  	* xz 5.0 do not support '--text' option now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified: rpm/spec-helper/trunk/clean_perl
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- rpm/spec-helper/trunk/clean_perl	2012-03-05 15:16:42 UTC (rev 3192)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ rpm/spec-helper/trunk/clean_perl	2012-03-05 15:35:37 UTC (rev 3193)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -16,3 +16,5 @@
+</I>&gt;<i>  	rm -f $i
+</I>&gt;<i>      fi
+</I>&gt;<i>  done
+</I>&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;<i> +find $d -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2&gt;/dev/null \;
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+uh? no -empty ?
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+&gt;<i> On 5 March 2012 16:35, &#160;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +2011-04-16 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fwang at mandriva.org</A>&gt; 0.31.5
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + &#160; &#160;* remove empty dirs for perl modules
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;2010-11-22 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fwang at mandriva.org</A>&gt; 0.31.4
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; * xz 5.0 do not support '--text' option now.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Modified: rpm/spec-helper/trunk/clean_perl
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --- rpm/spec-helper/trunk/clean_perl &#160;2012-03-05 15:16:42 UTC (rev 3192)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +++ rpm/spec-helper/trunk/clean_perl &#160;2012-03-05 15:35:37 UTC (rev 3193)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> @@ -16,3 +16,5 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; rm -f $i
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160;fi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;done
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +find $d -depth -type d -exec rmdir {} 2&gt;/dev/null \;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> uh? no -empty ?
+</I>
+it will work as rmdir will complain and errors are hidden, but yes
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and paulo at 05/03/12 15:43 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Le 05/03/2012 16:32, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/4 Shlomi Fish&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">shlomif at shlomifish.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Thibaut,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 21:19:37 +0100
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thibaut FRANCOIS&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thibautf at gmail.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> since the last update of cauldron today, I lost the network.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I launch command systemctl status sytem.network, the return is :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> system.service
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>         Loaded : error (Reason : No such file or directory)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>         Active : inactive (dead)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And I can't start network service with system manager (systemctl error)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any idea ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It might be this bug:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4780">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4780</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To workaround it, disable NetworkManager , change
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;NM_CONTROLLED=yes&quot; to &quot;NM_CONTROLLED=no&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (or of your
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> networking interface is) and restart the &quot;network&quot; service&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This problem is an ongoing issue in one of my Cauldron installations.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> After not being able to connect wifi (no matter with or without
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> networkmanager) for a longer time it worked since last Saturday, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with todays updates it stops working again, or better: is back to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> connect / disconnect continuously.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Weird thing: it only shows these problems in the installation I set up
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with Beta1 - in another Cauldron on the same machine, based on Alpha1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (updated as of today), wifi has been running stable all the time. This
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> brings me to the conclusion that there is another reason for this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ongoing issue.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i had the same issue....resolved with uninstallation of
+</I>&gt;<i> networkmanager...dont know why?????
+</I>
+I don't know why people are so confused here... I mentioned this a
+couple days ago in the thread &quot;Problem with latest network manager&quot;...
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+Of course those without internet access might have trouble reading the
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+</I>&gt;<i> Col
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+<PRE>2012/3/5 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and paulo at 05/03/12 15:43 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 05/03/2012 16:32, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/4 Shlomi Fish&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">shlomif at shlomifish.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Thibaut,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 21:19:37 +0100
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thibaut FRANCOIS&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thibautf at gmail.com</A>&gt; &#160;wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> since the last update of cauldron today, I lost the network.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I launch command systemctl status sytem.network, the return is :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> system.service
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Loaded : error (Reason : No such file or directory)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Active : inactive (dead)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And I can't start network service with system manager (systemctl error)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any idea ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It might be this bug:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4780">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4780</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To workaround it, disable NetworkManager , change
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;NM_CONTROLLED=yes&quot; to &quot;NM_CONTROLLED=no&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (or of your
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> networking interface is) and restart the &quot;network&quot; service&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This problem is an ongoing issue in one of my Cauldron installations.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> After not being able to connect wifi (no matter with or without
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> networkmanager) for a longer time it worked since last Saturday, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with todays updates it stops working again, or better: is back to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> connect / disconnect continuously.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Weird thing: it only shows these problems in the installation I set up
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with Beta1 - in another Cauldron on the same machine, based on Alpha1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (updated as of today), wifi has been running stable all the time. This
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> brings me to the conclusion that there is another reason for this
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ongoing issue.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i had the same issue....resolved with uninstallation of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> networkmanager...dont know why?????
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know why people are so confused here... I mentioned this a
+</I>&gt;<i> couple days ago in the thread &quot;Problem with latest network manager&quot;...
+</I>
+Yes, I read that. I would not be confused if the problem was in both
+Cauldron installations on that machine. But, as I wrote, it is only
+present in that installation where networking problems have shown from
+day one. May this enlighten you in understanding why I'm so confused ?
+:<i>)
+</I>
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+<PRE>maybe a silly question, but what is nowadays use of soundwrapper?
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+Some games still use it in the menu shortcut, while sound still works without 
+it for me with and without pulse... am I missing some specials configs?
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and zezinho at 05/03/12 21:14 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> maybe a silly question, but what is nowadays use of soundwrapper?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Some games still use it in the menu shortcut, while sound still works without 
+</I>&gt;<i> it for me with and without pulse... am I missing some specials configs?
+</I>
+It's been discussed several times on the list over the last few months,
+but it's still needed (or rather desirable) for now.
+
+Ultimately sound would still &quot;work&quot; even without pulse, but the problem
+comes when trying to open the sound system from multiple apps. e.g. your
+mail notifier may try to play an alert sound, or your desktop may try to
+tell you that the battery level is critial while  you're playing your
+full-screen game.
+
+If the game uses OSS, it will get exclusive access to it when used with
+the ALSA OSS modules.
+
+Nowadays things work very different with PulseAudio enabled. It does not
+use the ALSA OSS modules but instead emulates the /dev/dsp nodes via a
+userspace character device emulation layer (CUSE) which in turn proxies
+things directly to PulseAudio. This avoids the need for soundwrapper at
+all and in fact the latest version of soundwrapper will be a NOP if it
+detects osspd as running.
+
+As I stated in mails a few weeks ago on this topic, it might make sense
+to drop soundwrapper in mga3 if osspd can prove to work in all cases
+where we want it. It would be a shame to see soundwrapper go and David
+has done a great job with it over the years, but if it's no longer
+needed then such is the way of things.
+
+Time will tell however.
+
+Col
+
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> 04.03.2012 20:16, Thomas Spuhler skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The last successful build went through Feb. 10, 2012. I haven't upgraded
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and built any after that date until last weekend when they all failed to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; build. I would have to change 80+ packages that are now using the pear
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; type spec. I don't have the bandwidth to do that.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The message I get is this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Unknown channel &quot;pear.horde.org&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Parsing of package.xml from file &quot;/var/tmp/pearwYoowh/package.xml&quot; failed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cannot initialize '/home/iurt/rpm/SOURCES/Horde_Itip-1.0.7.tgz', invalid
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; or missing package file
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Package &quot;/home/iurt/rpm/SOURCES/Horde_Itip-1.0.7.tgz&quot; is not valid
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; install failed.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, you better start fixing the packages...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe you can download &amp; fix it in the specs only to save bw....
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Anything building on BS must build with only official mageia repos...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Otherwise we wont know what ends up in the packages.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
+Thomas:
+
+Many of the pear packages require to have the pear-cahnnel installed. Most of 
+the horde require it. It's not installing a package.
+We are not the only one, fedora folks do it too:
+<A HREF="http://nb.fedorapeople.org/horde-reviews/php-horde-Horde-Http.spec">http://nb.fedorapeople.org/horde-reviews/php-horde-Horde-Http.spec</A>
+
+BuildRequires:  php-channel(pear.horde.org)
+
+installing this package needs to add pear-channel-horde. If it doesn't the 
+package doesn't build.
+They do not even use a pearized specification.
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+Thomas Spuhler
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+&gt;<i> I just noticed - don't ask me why I didn't notice it earlier - there
+</I>&gt;<i> is no rpm group for LXDE
+</I>&gt;<i> We have groups &quot;Graphical desktop/XYZ&quot; for XYZ in KDE, GNOME, XFCE and
+</I>&gt;<i> five of the window managers, but not for lxde.
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps we should find some policy on those groups, as I think
+</I>&gt;<i> currently there's no real logic behind them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>
+I take a look inside Graphical desktop/Other, we have quite a lot of
+WM/DE inside it:
+(in alphabet order)
+AfterStep
+awesome
+dwm
+blackbox-based (fluxbox, openbox)
+i3
+lesstif-mwm (which should belongs to fvwm-based group)
+lxde
+matchbox
+pekwm
+razorqt
+scrotwm
+sugar
+swm
+
+Something else that should belongs to another group:
+devede - a DVD/VCD creation frontend, should be in Video?
+etoys - should be in Education?
+lightdm - a display manager, but slim &amp; xdm are in System/X11.
+screengrab - another screenshot tool, scrot, is in Graphics.
+
+System/X11 might need some love:
+aajohan-comfortaa-fonts - should be in System/Fonts/TrueType
+compiz - compiz is a window manager, but it might be an exception here.
+gccmakedep
+imake - both gccmakedep &amp; imake are part of Xorg package, but
+Development seems more suitable?
+kiba-dock - most docks are in Graphical desktop/Other. Strange why
+kiba-dock is not...
+virtualbox-doc - should be in Documentation.
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+    <B>Thibaut FRANCOIS</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/5 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and paulo at 05/03/12 15:43 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 05/03/2012 16:32, Wolfgang Bornath a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2012/3/4 Shlomi Fish&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">shlomif at shlomifish.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi Thibaut,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On Sun, 4 Mar 2012 21:19:37 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Thibaut FRANCOIS&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thibautf at gmail.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; since the last update of cauldron today, I lost the network.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I launch command systemctl status sytem.network, the return is :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; system.service
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;         Loaded : error (Reason : No such file or directory)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;         Active : inactive (dead)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; And I can't start network service with system manager (systemctl
+</I>&gt;<i> error)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Any idea ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; It might be this bug:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4780">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4780</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; To workaround it, disable NetworkManager , change
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &quot;NM_CONTROLLED=yes&quot; to &quot;NM_CONTROLLED=no&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifcfg-eth0 (or of your
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; networking interface is) and restart the &quot;network&quot; service&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; This problem is an ongoing issue in one of my Cauldron installations.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; After not being able to connect wifi (no matter with or without
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; networkmanager) for a longer time it worked since last Saturday, but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; with todays updates it stops working again, or better: is back to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; connect / disconnect continuously.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Weird thing: it only shows these problems in the installation I set up
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; with Beta1 - in another Cauldron on the same machine, based on Alpha1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; (updated as of today), wifi has been running stable all the time. This
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; brings me to the conclusion that there is another reason for this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ongoing issue.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i had the same issue....resolved with uninstallation of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; networkmanager...dont know why?????
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know why people are so confused here... I mentioned this a
+</I>&gt;<i> couple days ago in the thread &quot;Problem with latest network manager&quot;...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course those without internet access might have trouble reading the
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing list :p
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> colin(at)mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well it seems my problems was also related with a dysfunction on my CPL
+boxes. Maybe due to the absence of Network Manager, I had error messages
+and it has been difficult to relaunch ethernet access. Now all is fixed and
+Network Manager is reinstalled. So, really sorry for this noise... :-(
+
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+    <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> 
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+I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6 firewall/router.
+To setup server I do a minimum install:
+- /boot on its own partition
+- /var /tmp and swap on lvm
+- select no packages categories but yes install doc
+- no post configuration, so no X11 (hey it's a server)
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+At boot the system started but stop to &quot;starting display manager&quot; (??)
+and I were unable to reach any text terminal.
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+I can access to the computer using ssh, so I can extract log,
+information, etc...
+
+Regards.
+
+-- 
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+Olivier Thauvin
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+<PRE>This was fixed once, but since the latest kernel updates (3.3.0) - the problem has returned:
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+Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
+now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
+loaded.
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+checking in dmesg - I see that the nouveau driver grabs the card before
+the nvidia driver can - but trying to remove the nouveau driver wants to
+remove over 800 packages!
+
+How can I get the nvidia proprietary driver back??
+
+Thx,
+R.Fox
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+    <B>Bertaux Xavier</B> 
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+<PRE>yes and last night after installing the new kernel 3.3.0rc,
+dkms fails to build dkms-nvidia for this kernel.
+
+Cheers
+Xavier
+
+Le 06/03/2012 10:45, Robert Fox a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> This was fixed once, but since the latest kernel updates (3.3.0) - the problem has returned:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
+</I>&gt;<i> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
+</I>&gt;<i> loaded.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> checking in dmesg - I see that the nouveau driver grabs the card before
+</I>&gt;<i> the nvidia driver can - but trying to remove the nouveau driver wants to
+</I>&gt;<i> remove over 800 packages!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How can I get the nvidia proprietary driver back??
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thx,
+</I>&gt;<i> R.Fox
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6 firewall/router.
+</I>&gt;<i> To setup server I do a minimum install:
+</I>&gt;<i> - /boot on its own partition
+</I>&gt;<i> - /var /tmp and swap on lvm
+</I>&gt;<i> - select no packages categories but yes install doc
+</I>&gt;<i> - no post configuration, so no X11 (hey it's a server)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> At boot the system started but stop to &quot;starting display manager&quot; (??)
+</I>&gt;<i> and I were unable to reach any text terminal.
+</I>
+No text terminal at all? Not on tty2 or 3?
+
+If you try and start dm (prefdm.service) then you will NOT get a tty1
+getty (prefdm.service conflicts with <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at tty1.service</A>), but all other
+tty's should be fine (handled by <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">autovt at .service</A>)
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
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+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 06/03/12 02:33 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Sunday, March 04, 2012 11:42:49 AM Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 04.03.2012 20:16, Thomas Spuhler skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The last successful build went through Feb. 10, 2012. I haven't upgraded
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and built any after that date until last weekend when they all failed to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> build. I would have to change 80+ packages that are now using the pear
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> type spec. I don't have the bandwidth to do that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The message I get is this:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Unknown channel &quot;pear.horde.org&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Parsing of package.xml from file &quot;/var/tmp/pearwYoowh/package.xml&quot; failed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cannot initialize '/home/iurt/rpm/SOURCES/Horde_Itip-1.0.7.tgz', invalid
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> or missing package file
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Package &quot;/home/iurt/rpm/SOURCES/Horde_Itip-1.0.7.tgz&quot; is not valid
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> install failed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, you better start fixing the packages...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe you can download &amp; fix it in the specs only to save bw....
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anything building on BS must build with only official mageia repos...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Otherwise we wont know what ends up in the packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Many of the pear packages require to have the pear-cahnnel installed. Most of 
+</I>&gt;<i> the horde require it. It's not installing a package.
+</I>&gt;<i> We are not the only one, fedora folks do it too:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://nb.fedorapeople.org/horde-reviews/php-horde-Horde-Http.spec">http://nb.fedorapeople.org/horde-reviews/php-horde-Horde-Http.spec</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> BuildRequires:  php-channel(pear.horde.org)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> installing this package needs to add pear-channel-horde. If it doesn't the 
+</I>&gt;<i> package doesn't build.
+</I>&gt;<i> They do not even use a pearized specification.
+</I>
+It's nothing to do with adding or not the channel. It's the fact that
+this operation requires network access. You need to patch the systems
+such that they do not require network access to add the channel.
+
+This is a rule that has been in place for a long time. I'm surprised
+it's only coming up as an issue now to be honest.
+
+The same thing happens when e.g. there are not XML schemas installed
+locally for man page building and similar. It's just a matter of
+installing the relevant package to provide local, cached versions.
+
+Col
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 06/03/12 02:33 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sunday, March 04, 2012 11:42:49 AM Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 04.03.2012 20:16, Thomas Spuhler skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The last successful build went through Feb. 10, 2012. I haven't upgraded
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and built any after that date until last weekend when they all failed to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> build. I would have to change 80+ packages that are now using the pear
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> type spec. I don't have the bandwidth to do that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The message I get is this:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Unknown channel &quot;pear.horde.org&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Parsing of package.xml from file &quot;/var/tmp/pearwYoowh/package.xml&quot; failed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cannot initialize '/home/iurt/rpm/SOURCES/Horde_Itip-1.0.7.tgz', invalid
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> or missing package file
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Package &quot;/home/iurt/rpm/SOURCES/Horde_Itip-1.0.7.tgz&quot; is not valid
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> install failed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Well, you better start fixing the packages...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe you can download &amp; fix it in the specs only to save bw....
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anything building on BS must build with only official mageia repos...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Otherwise we wont know what ends up in the packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Many of the pear packages require to have the pear-cahnnel installed. Most of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the horde require it. It's not installing a package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We are not the only one, fedora folks do it too:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://nb.fedorapeople.org/horde-reviews/php-horde-Horde-Http.spec">http://nb.fedorapeople.org/horde-reviews/php-horde-Horde-Http.spec</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> BuildRequires: &#160;php-channel(pear.horde.org)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installing this package needs to add pear-channel-horde. If it doesn't the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> package doesn't build.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> They do not even use a pearized specification.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's nothing to do with adding or not the channel. It's the fact that
+</I>&gt;<i> this operation requires network access. You need to patch the systems
+</I>&gt;<i> such that they do not require network access to add the channel.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is a rule that has been in place for a long time. I'm surprised
+</I>&gt;<i> it's only coming up as an issue now to be honest.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The same thing happens when e.g. there are not XML schemas installed
+</I>&gt;<i> locally for man page building and similar. It's just a matter of
+</I>&gt;<i> installing the relevant package to provide local, cached versions.
+</I>
+And as shown in the fedora link, they use BuildRequires:
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+&gt;<i> This was fixed once, but since the latest kernel updates (3.3.0) - the problem has returned:
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Since last Cauldron kernel update, I have two nvidia based system which
+</I>&gt;<i> now fallback to nouveau when starting X - stating nvidia cannot be
+</I>&gt;<i> loaded.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> checking in dmesg - I see that the nouveau driver grabs the card before
+</I>&gt;<i> the nvidia driver can - but trying to remove the nouveau driver wants to
+</I>&gt;<i> remove over 800 packages!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How can I get the nvidia proprietary driver back??
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thx,
+</I>&gt;<i> R.Fox
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>You could try blacklisting the nouveau module - but that won't fix the 
+underlying issue - it may however get you working as a temporary fix ;)
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+<PRE>* Colin Guthrie (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6 firewall/router.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; To setup server I do a minimum install:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - /boot on its own partition
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - /var /tmp and swap on lvm
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - select no packages categories but yes install doc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - no post configuration, so no X11 (hey it's a server)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; At boot the system started but stop to &quot;starting display manager&quot; (??)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and I were unable to reach any text terminal.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> No text terminal at all? Not on tty2 or 3?
+</I>
+Indeed, alt + F2 show the login prompt. But before I pressed alt + F2 ps
+was not showing any &quot;*getty&quot; program, a bit confusing, especially since
+there is nothing on first console.
+
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If you try and start dm (prefdm.service) then you will NOT get a tty1
+</I>&gt;<i> getty (prefdm.service conflicts with <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at tty1.service</A>), but all other
+</I>&gt;<i> tty's should be fine (handled by <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">autovt at .service</A>)
+</I>
+Maybe, but I never asked to have prefdm and in fact I don't want X
+terminal.
+
+All sys admin expect to have a tty on first console and just having
+&quot;starting dm service&quot; whereas I know it cannot start is really
+confusing.
+
+Cannot prefdm/X11/whatever be started on 7nd console like during the
+years 90th ? :)
+
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> -- 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> colin(at)mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Day Job:
+</I>&gt;<i>   Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Open Source:
+</I>&gt;<i>   Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>   PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>   Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
+</I>
+-- 
+
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+&gt;<i> * Colin Guthrie (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Hi there,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6 firewall/router.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; To setup server I do a minimum install:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - /boot on its own partition
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - /var /tmp and swap on lvm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - select no packages categories but yes install doc
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - no post configuration, so no X11 (hey it's a server)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; At boot the system started but stop to &quot;starting display manager&quot; (??)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; and I were unable to reach any text terminal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No text terminal at all? Not on tty2 or 3?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed, alt + F2 show the login prompt. But before I pressed alt + F2 ps
+</I>&gt;<i> was not showing any &quot;*getty&quot; program, a bit confusing, especially since
+</I>&gt;<i> there is nothing on first console.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you try and start dm (prefdm.service) then you will NOT get a tty1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> getty (prefdm.service conflicts with <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at tty1.service</A>), but all other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tty's should be fine (handled by <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">autovt at .service</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe, but I never asked to have prefdm and in fact I don't want X
+</I>&gt;<i> terminal.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All sys admin expect to have a tty on first console and just having
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;starting dm service&quot; whereas I know it cannot start is really
+</I>&gt;<i> confusing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cannot prefdm/X11/whatever be started on 7nd console like during the
+</I>&gt;<i> years 90th ? :)
+</I>
+Ah, back at that one again. We had a lengthy and lively debate about
+this not so long ago where exactly this scenario came up. Don't
+remember whether it was on this list or the -discuss list.
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+&gt;<i> All sys admin expect to have a tty on first console
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+Besides, most guides on the net suggest using tty1 if X fail for some reason.
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+<PRE>2012/3/6 Johnny A. Solbu &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cooker at solbu.net</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Tuesday 06 March 2012 13:38, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> All sys admin expect to have a tty on first console
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Besides, most guides on the net suggest using tty1 if X fail for some reason.
+</I>
+Yes, that was also one of the arguments in the discussions.
+
+For those who missed it: discussion started here:
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-December/010533.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-December/010533.html</A>
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/6 Olivier Thauvin&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * Colin Guthrie (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6 firewall/router.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To setup server I do a minimum install:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - /boot on its own partition
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - /var /tmp and swap on lvm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - select no packages categories but yes install doc
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - no post configuration, so no X11 (hey it's a server)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> At boot the system started but stop to &quot;starting display manager&quot; (??)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and I were unable to reach any text terminal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No text terminal at all? Not on tty2 or 3?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed, alt + F2 show the login prompt. But before I pressed alt + F2 ps
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> was not showing any &quot;*getty&quot; program, a bit confusing, especially since
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there is nothing on first console.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you try and start dm (prefdm.service) then you will NOT get a tty1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> getty (prefdm.service conflicts with <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at tty1.service</A>), but all other
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tty's should be fine (handled by <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">autovt at .service</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe, but I never asked to have prefdm and in fact I don't want X
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> terminal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> All sys admin expect to have a tty on first console and just having
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;starting dm service&quot; whereas I know it cannot start is really
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> confusing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cannot prefdm/X11/whatever be started on 7nd console like during the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> years 90th ? :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ah, back at that one again. We had a lengthy and lively debate about
+</I>&gt;<i> this not so long ago where exactly this scenario came up. Don't
+</I>&gt;<i> remember whether it was on this list or the -discuss list.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>What is even more confusing currently is that switching to tty2, logging 
+in as root and running 'systemctl restart prefdm.service' restarts the 
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+<PRE>2012/3/6 Barry Jackson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">zen25000 at zen.co.uk</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 06/03/12 12:46, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/6 Olivier Thauvin&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Colin Guthrie (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6 firewall/router.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To setup server I do a minimum install:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - /boot on its own partition
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - /var /tmp and swap on lvm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - select no packages categories but yes install doc
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - no post configuration, so no X11 (hey it's a server)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> At boot the system started but stop to &quot;starting display manager&quot; (??)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and I were unable to reach any text terminal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No text terminal at all? Not on tty2 or 3?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed, alt + F2 show the login prompt. But before I pressed alt + F2 ps
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> was not showing any &quot;*getty&quot; program, a bit confusing, especially since
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> there is nothing on first console.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you try and start dm (prefdm.service) then you will NOT get a tty1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> getty (prefdm.service conflicts with <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at tty1.service</A>), but all other
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tty's should be fine (handled by <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">autovt at .service</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe, but I never asked to have prefdm and in fact I don't want X
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> terminal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> All sys admin expect to have a tty on first console and just having
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;starting dm service&quot; whereas I know it cannot start is really
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> confusing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cannot prefdm/X11/whatever be started on 7nd console like during the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> years 90th ? :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ah, back at that one again. We had a lengthy and lively debate about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this not so long ago where exactly this scenario came up. Don't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> remember whether it was on this list or the -discuss list.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is even more confusing currently is that switching to tty2, logging in
+</I>&gt;<i> as root and running 'systemctl restart prefdm.service' restarts the dm back
+</I>&gt;<i> on tty7 anyway :/
+</I>
+Yep, and I have one Cauldron installation working nicely but using
+Ctrl+Alt+F1 inside the X session brings me to the system start
+messages, while this should do nothing because X should reside on
+tty1. :)
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 12:38 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> * Colin Guthrie (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6 firewall/router.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To setup server I do a minimum install:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - /boot on its own partition
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - /var /tmp and swap on lvm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - select no packages categories but yes install doc
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - no post configuration, so no X11 (hey it's a server)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> At boot the system started but stop to &quot;starting display manager&quot; (??)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and I were unable to reach any text terminal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No text terminal at all? Not on tty2 or 3?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed, alt + F2 show the login prompt. But before I pressed alt + F2 ps
+</I>&gt;<i> was not showing any &quot;*getty&quot; program, a bit confusing, especially since
+</I>&gt;<i> there is nothing on first console.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you try and start dm (prefdm.service) then you will NOT get a tty1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> getty (prefdm.service conflicts with <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at tty1.service</A>), but all other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tty's should be fine (handled by <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">autovt at .service</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe, but I never asked to have prefdm and in fact I don't want X
+</I>&gt;<i> terminal.
+</I>
+They why are you booting to a graphical target?
+
+Check your /etc/systemd/system/default.target and if it's a symlink to
+runlevel5.target or graphical.target then this is your problem.
+
+You should instead symlink it to multi-user.target or runlevel3.target.
+
+&gt;<i> All sys admin expect to have a tty on first console and just having
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;starting dm service&quot; whereas I know it cannot start is really
+</I>&gt;<i> confusing.
+</I>
+Sorry not sure what you mean?
+
+&gt;<i> Cannot prefdm/X11/whatever be started on 7nd console like during the
+</I>&gt;<i> years 90th ? :)
+</I>
+Sure, just copy prefdm.service to /etc/systemd/system and edit it to not
+have a &quot;Conflicts: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at tty1.service</A>&quot; and then configure whatever dm
+you have to start on vt7 (usually a matter of configuring which args are
+passed to the X11 it starts.
+
+Col
+
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> What is even more confusing currently is that switching to tty2, logging
+</I>&gt;<i> in as root and running 'systemctl restart prefdm.service' restarts the
+</I>&gt;<i> dm back on tty7 anyway :/
+</I>
+No it doesn't. It starts it on the next available vt. If you login on
+tty2 and have switched to all ttys from 3-6 (and thus triggered the
+starting of a getty), then 7 will be the next available one and it will
+start there. If you do not switch to 3-6, then it will start on vt3.
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+You can reserve the gettys by symlinking <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at .service</A> to
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at tty</A>[2-6].service in /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.want/
+folder if you really want static gettys started at boot. I'd prefer not
+to bother running them unless I need them which is the default setup.
+
+As mentioned already prefdm.service has a specific conflict with
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at tty1.service.</A> This is why that static config is not loaded when
+booting to graphical.target.
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+Now I'm not sure on the logic inside the Xserver that is used to search
+for a free getty. it maybe starts from the current one and counts up. If
+so, this logic should (IMO) be changed to start searching from 1 that
+way it would relatively consistently start on vt1 even when restarted
+from tty2.
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 12:38 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * Colin Guthrie (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6 firewall/router.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To setup server I do a minimum install:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - /boot on its own partition
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - /var /tmp and swap on lvm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - select no packages categories but yes install doc
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - no post configuration, so no X11 (hey it's a server)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> At boot the system started but stop to &quot;starting display manager&quot; (??)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and I were unable to reach any text terminal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No text terminal at all? Not on tty2 or 3?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed, alt + F2 show the login prompt. But before I pressed alt + F2 ps
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> was not showing any &quot;*getty&quot; program, a bit confusing, especially since
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there is nothing on first console.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+There has been a lot of discussion about this, and I'd just like some 
+clarification of how the folks implementing thought it was supposed to 
+turn out.
+
+My understanding was that the DM was to start on tty1, and some lower 
+subset of the ttys, say 2-6 or 7, was supposed to be reserved for 
+alternate graphical logins, but that console (getty) ttys would still be 
+available on the higher ttys.  Maybe not as easy to find, but more 
+consistent with current usage.
+
+I'm seeing what Olivier is seeing (although this is a desktop system and 
+not a minimal system).  In my primary desktop, I can hit CTRL-ALT-Fn for 
+n = 1 to 12, and I get no response at all.  It just stays on the same 
+desktop.
+
+Bug or feature ?
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 12:38 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * Colin Guthrie (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6 firewall/router.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To setup server I do a minimum install:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - /boot on its own partition
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - /var /tmp and swap on lvm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - select no packages categories but yes install doc
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - no post configuration, so no X11 (hey it's a server)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> At boot the system started but stop to &quot;starting display manager&quot; (??)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and I were unable to reach any text terminal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No text terminal at all? Not on tty2 or 3?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed, alt + F2 show the login prompt. But before I pressed alt + F2 ps
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> was not showing any &quot;*getty&quot; program, a bit confusing, especially since
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there is nothing on first console.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you try and start dm (prefdm.service) then you will NOT get a tty1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> getty (prefdm.service conflicts with <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at tty1.service</A>), but all other
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tty's should be fine (handled by <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">autovt at .service</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe, but I never asked to have prefdm and in fact I don't want X
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> terminal.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> They why are you booting to a graphical target?
+</I>
+&gt;<i>From what I read, because that's what was done during installation
+</I>
+prefdm shouldn't be there on installs without X
+
+&gt;<i> Check your /etc/systemd/system/default.target and if it's a symlink to
+</I>&gt;<i> runlevel5.target or graphical.target then this is your problem.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You should instead symlink it to multi-user.target or runlevel3.target.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> All sys admin expect to have a tty on first console and just having
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;starting dm service&quot; whereas I know it cannot start is really
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> confusing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry not sure what you mean?
+</I>
+When you install a new machine (without X) and boot it, you expect to
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+
+Xavier
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+Le 06/03/2012 14:08, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Barry Jackson at 06/03/12 12:26 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You could try blacklisting the nouveau module - but that won't fix the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> underlying issue - it may however get you working as a temporary fix ;)
+</I>&gt;<i> If dkms-nvidia isn't building, then a blacklist likely won't help! :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 12:38 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;&gt;<i> No text terminal at all? Not on tty2 or 3?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed, alt + F2 show the login prompt. But before I pressed alt + F2 ps
+</I>&gt;<i> was not showing any &quot;*getty&quot; program, a bit confusing, especially since
+</I>&gt;<i> there is nothing on first console.
+</I>
+Just to expand on this point.
+
+getty's are started on demand these days. It's done by <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">autovt at .service.</A>
+
+If you want to configure static gettys then you can do so easily enough
+(just symlink /lib/systemd/system/getty*.service as
+/etc/systemd/systemd/multi-user.target.wants/<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at tty2.service</A> to get a
+static getty on tty2.
+
+But if your system is typically a graphical system, then why bother
+stating it statically and have it running all the time using resources.
+Auto-activation seems fine as a default setup to me.
+
+
+Now, the problem you seemed to get was that no dm was installed and thus
+the /etc/X11/prefdm script reached the end.
+
+IMO we very much DO want to have something done at the end of this
+script to give the user some help. This might include stopping
+prefdm.service via systemd and starting the tty, or perhaps better,
+showing some specific help (either text, or via plymouth or similar).
+
+This is something that I've suggested in a bug, but no feedback on that
+idea yet:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4750">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4750</A>
+
+Please do add comments on that bug.
+
+Col
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 06/03/12 13:33 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> There has been a lot of discussion about this, and I'd just like some
+</I>&gt;<i> clarification of how the folks implementing thought it was supposed to
+</I>&gt;<i> turn out.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> My understanding was that the DM was to start on tty1, and some lower
+</I>&gt;<i> subset of the ttys, say 2-6 or 7, was supposed to be reserved for
+</I>&gt;<i> alternate graphical logins, but that console (getty) ttys would still be
+</I>&gt;<i> available on the higher ttys.  Maybe not as easy to find, but more
+</I>&gt;<i> consistent with current usage.
+</I>
+This would still be my preference, but critically it would depend on the
+current target.
+
+If you are booting to graphical.target then some subset of the lower
+ttys would automatically start X+dm on that tty when you switch to it,
+but if you boot to multi-user.target it would show you getty.
+
+Thus server installs would be no different to how they've been for years
+(which hopefully addresses most of the greybeard complaint) and for
+users who don't know what the heck a console login is, they will
+hopefully be presented with nice, user friendly login prompts. Everyone
+is a winner.
+
+&gt;<i> I'm seeing what Olivier is seeing (although this is a desktop system and
+</I>&gt;<i> not a minimal system).  In my primary desktop, I can hit CTRL-ALT-Fn for
+</I>&gt;<i> n = 1 to 12, and I get no response at all.  It just stays on the same
+</I>&gt;<i> desktop.
+</I>
+Not sure about that one. Smells like some other bug if it doesn't move.
+Has your keyboard got a special &quot;fn&quot; key that disables the function
+keys? Mine does.
+
+Col
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+-- 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Pascal Terjan at 06/03/12 13:34 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 13:23, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 12:38 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Colin Guthrie (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6 firewall/router.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To setup server I do a minimum install:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - /boot on its own partition
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - /var /tmp and swap on lvm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - select no packages categories but yes install doc
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - no post configuration, so no X11 (hey it's a server)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> At boot the system started but stop to &quot;starting display manager&quot; (??)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and I were unable to reach any text terminal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No text terminal at all? Not on tty2 or 3?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed, alt + F2 show the login prompt. But before I pressed alt + F2 ps
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> was not showing any &quot;*getty&quot; program, a bit confusing, especially since
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> there is nothing on first console.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you try and start dm (prefdm.service) then you will NOT get a tty1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> getty (prefdm.service conflicts with <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at tty1.service</A>), but all other
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tty's should be fine (handled by <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">autovt at .service</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe, but I never asked to have prefdm and in fact I don't want X
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> terminal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> They why are you booting to a graphical target?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>From what I read, because that's what was done during installation
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> prefdm shouldn't be there on installs without X
+</I>
+Well both the service (part of systemd-units) and the script (part of
+initscripts) will certainly exist.
+
+And prefdm.service is a hard requirement of graphical.target (due to
+/lib/systemd/system/graphical.target.wants/display-manager.service
+symlink) [display-manager.service is in turn a symlink to prefdm.service
+- longer term it'll probably become the official name instead of prefdm]
+
+
+The thing is that the default.target symlink should change between
+multi-user.target and graphical.target (or runlevel3.target and
+runlevel5.target which are compatibility symlinks for the newer, more
+descriptive names).
+
+This symlink structure is equiv to the line in inittab:
+id:5:initdefault:
+where 5 or 3 are the typical values.
+
+&gt;<i> When you install a new machine (without X) and boot it, you expect to
+</I>&gt;<i> be given a login prompt
+</I>
+I would agree. In that case the code should ensure that
+multi-user.target or runlevel3.target is used.
+
+We need to check what the inittab file says too. The drakx code that
+deals with runlevels should keep the default.target symlink and inittab
+file in sync. If a fresh install like this includes an initab with 5,
+then that's a problem.
+
+Or perhaps we just need to create a default.target in the %post of
+systemd-units if it doesn't exist and default it to whatever inittab
+says? I'm pretty sure the installer code should take care of creating
+this symlink tho'.... will try and double check with a clean install in
+a VM.
+
+Col
+
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+On 2012.03.06, at 14:08, Colin Guthrie wrote:
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Barry Jackson at 06/03/12 12:26 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You could try blacklisting the nouveau module - but that won't fix the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> underlying issue - it may however get you working as a temporary fix ;)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If dkms-nvidia isn't building, then a blacklist likely won't help! :)
+</I>
+With this fix I got it bulding, found in google:
+
+--- conftest.sh.orig	2012-03-06 14:26:04.518194430 +0100
++++ conftest.sh	2012-03-06 14:19:20.684477926 +0100
+@@ -126,7 +126,7 @@
+     CFLAGS=&quot;$BASE_CFLAGS $MACH_CFLAGS $OUTPUT_CFLAGS -I$HEADERS $AUTOCONF_CFLAGS&quot;
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+     if [ &quot;$ARCH&quot; = &quot;i386&quot; -o &quot;$ARCH&quot; = &quot;x86_64&quot; ]; then
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+     elif [ &quot;$ARCH&quot; = &quot;ARMv7&quot; ]; then
+         CFLAGS=&quot;$CFLAGS -I$SOURCES/arch/arm/include&quot;
+     fi
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+                                         \         It's better when it's free
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+<PRE>2012/3/6 Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 13:23, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 12:38 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Colin Guthrie (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 09:24 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just try to install a cauldron to setup a test IPv6 firewall/router.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To setup server I do a minimum install:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - /boot on its own partition
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - /var /tmp and swap on lvm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - select no packages categories but yes install doc
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - no post configuration, so no X11 (hey it's a server)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> At boot the system started but stop to &quot;starting display manager&quot; (??)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and I were unable to reach any text terminal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No text terminal at all? Not on tty2 or 3?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed, alt + F2 show the login prompt. But before I pressed alt + F2 ps
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> was not showing any &quot;*getty&quot; program, a bit confusing, especially since
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> there is nothing on first console.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you try and start dm (prefdm.service) then you will NOT get a tty1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> getty (prefdm.service conflicts with <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at tty1.service</A>), but all other
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tty's should be fine (handled by <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">autovt at .service</A>)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe, but I never asked to have prefdm and in fact I don't want X
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> terminal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> They why are you booting to a graphical target?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;From what I read, because that's what was done during installation
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> prefdm shouldn't be there on installs without X
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Check your /etc/systemd/system/default.target and if it's a symlink to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> runlevel5.target or graphical.target then this is your problem.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You should instead symlink it to multi-user.target or runlevel3.target.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> All sys admin expect to have a tty on first console and just having
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;starting dm service&quot; whereas I know it cannot start is really
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> confusing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry not sure what you mean?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When you install a new machine (without X) and boot it, you expect to
+</I>&gt;<i> be given a login prompt
+</I>
+This is one of the major points. I'm one of the greybeards who were
+fed F1 along with baby food but I can learn. But what I expect in any
+case, be it an installation without X or a &quot;normal&quot; installation where
+X fails to start, I expect to be dropped at a login prompt.
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:25, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 06/03/12 02:33 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sunday, March 04, 2012 11:42:49 AM Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 04.03.2012 20:16, Thomas Spuhler skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The last successful build went through Feb. 10, 2012. I haven't upgraded
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and built any after that date until last weekend when they all failed to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> build. I would have to change 80+ packages that are now using the pear
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> type spec. I don't have the bandwidth to do that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The message I get is this:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Unknown channel &quot;pear.horde.org&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Parsing of package.xml from file &quot;/var/tmp/pearwYoowh/package.xml&quot; failed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cannot initialize '/home/iurt/rpm/SOURCES/Horde_Itip-1.0.7.tgz', invalid
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> or missing package file
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Package &quot;/home/iurt/rpm/SOURCES/Horde_Itip-1.0.7.tgz&quot; is not valid
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> install failed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Well, you better start fixing the packages...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe you can download &amp; fix it in the specs only to save bw....
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anything building on BS must build with only official mageia repos...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Otherwise we wont know what ends up in the packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Many of the pear packages require to have the pear-cahnnel installed. Most of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the horde require it. It's not installing a package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We are not the only one, fedora folks do it too:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://nb.fedorapeople.org/horde-reviews/php-horde-Horde-Http.spec">http://nb.fedorapeople.org/horde-reviews/php-horde-Horde-Http.spec</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> BuildRequires: &#160;php-channel(pear.horde.org)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installing this package needs to add pear-channel-horde. If it doesn't the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> package doesn't build.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> They do not even use a pearized specification.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's nothing to do with adding or not the channel. It's the fact that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this operation requires network access. You need to patch the systems
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> such that they do not require network access to add the channel.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is a rule that has been in place for a long time. I'm surprised
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it's only coming up as an issue now to be honest.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The same thing happens when e.g. there are not XML schemas installed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> locally for man page building and similar. It's just a matter of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installing the relevant package to provide local, cached versions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And as shown in the fedora link, they use BuildRequires:
+</I>&gt;<i> php-channel(pear.horde.org) to get it from another package
+</I>
+Actually we had php-pear-channel-horde which installed the xml file
+but still connected to internet instead of using it, I think I fixed
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+<PRE>On 03/06/2012 08:42 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> If you are booting to graphical.target then some subset of the lower 
+</I>&gt;<i> ttys would automatically start X+dm on that tty when you switch to it, 
+</I>&gt;<i> but if you boot to multi-user.target it would show you getty. 
+</I>
+By &quot;multi-user target&quot; do you mean level 3 ?
+
+&gt;<i> Thus server installs would be no different to how they've been for 
+</I>&gt;<i> years (which hopefully addresses most of the greybeard complaint) and 
+</I>&gt;<i> for users who don't know what the heck a console login is, they will 
+</I>&gt;<i> hopefully be presented with nice, user friendly login prompts. 
+</I>&gt;<i> Everyone is a winner.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm seeing what Olivier is seeing (although this is a desktop system and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not a minimal system).  In my primary desktop, I can hit CTRL-ALT-Fn for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> n = 1 to 12, and I get no response at all.  It just stays on the same
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> desktop.
+</I>&gt;<i> Not sure about that one. Smells like some other bug if it doesn't move.
+</I>&gt;<i> Has your keyboard got a special &quot;fn&quot; key that disables the function
+</I>&gt;<i> keys? Mine does.
+</I>
+Mine does too (bloody Logitech), but Fn keys are enabled., so it's not 
+that.  Is there perhaps something I don't have installed that enables 
+X+dm restart and autovt ?  If autovt were not present or disabled, that 
+might explain why a second X+dm doesn't start (no available vt) ?
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+<PRE>On Tuesday, March 06, 2012 06:52:50 AM Pascal Terjan wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:34, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:25, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 06/03/12 02:33 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On Sunday, March 04, 2012 11:42:49 AM Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 04.03.2012 20:16, Thomas Spuhler skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The last successful build went through Feb. 10, 2012. I haven't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; upgraded and built any after that date until last weekend when they
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; all failed to build. I would have to change 80+ packages that are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; now using the pear type spec. I don't have the bandwidth to do that.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The message I get is this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Unknown channel &quot;pear.horde.org&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Parsing of package.xml from file &quot;/var/tmp/pearwYoowh/package.xml&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; failed Cannot initialize
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; '/home/iurt/rpm/SOURCES/Horde_Itip-1.0.7.tgz', invalid or missing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; package file
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Package &quot;/home/iurt/rpm/SOURCES/Horde_Itip-1.0.7.tgz&quot; is not valid
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; install failed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Well, you better start fixing the packages...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Maybe you can download &amp; fix it in the specs only to save bw....
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Anything building on BS must build with only official mageia repos...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Otherwise we wont know what ends up in the packages.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Thomas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Many of the pear packages require to have the pear-cahnnel installed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Most of the horde require it. It's not installing a package.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; We are not the only one, fedora folks do it too:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://nb.fedorapeople.org/horde-reviews/php-horde-Horde-Http.spec">http://nb.fedorapeople.org/horde-reviews/php-horde-Horde-Http.spec</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; BuildRequires:  php-channel(pear.horde.org)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; installing this package needs to add pear-channel-horde. If it doesn't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; the package doesn't build.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; They do not even use a pearized specification.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It's nothing to do with adding or not the channel. It's the fact that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; this operation requires network access. You need to patch the systems
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; such that they do not require network access to add the channel.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; This is a rule that has been in place for a long time. I'm surprised
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; it's only coming up as an issue now to be honest.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The same thing happens when e.g. there are not XML schemas installed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; locally for man page building and similar. It's just a matter of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; installing the relevant package to provide local, cached versions.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And as shown in the fedora link, they use BuildRequires:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; php-channel(pear.horde.org) to get it from another package
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually we had php-pear-channel-horde which installed the xml file
+</I>&gt;<i> but still connected to internet instead of using it, I think I fixed
+</I>&gt;<i> it
+</I>
+I will check it tonight. Only thw horde packages need it, the other pear 
+packages don't have a channel install requires.
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 06/03/12 13:56 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 03/06/2012 08:42 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you are booting to graphical.target then some subset of the lower
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ttys would automatically start X+dm on that tty when you switch to it,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but if you boot to multi-user.target it would show you getty. 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> By &quot;multi-user target&quot; do you mean level 3 ?
+</I>
+Yes. Sorry I tried to use both terms together most of the time (to get
+the terminology solidified in peoples minds) but I guess I missed one).
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Thus server installs would be no different to how they've been for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> years (which hopefully addresses most of the greybeard complaint) and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for users who don't know what the heck a console login is, they will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hopefully be presented with nice, user friendly login prompts.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Everyone is a winner.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm seeing what Olivier is seeing (although this is a desktop system and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> not a minimal system).  In my primary desktop, I can hit CTRL-ALT-Fn for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> n = 1 to 12, and I get no response at all.  It just stays on the same
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> desktop.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Not sure about that one. Smells like some other bug if it doesn't move.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Has your keyboard got a special &quot;fn&quot; key that disables the function
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> keys? Mine does.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Mine does too (bloody Logitech), but Fn keys are enabled., so it's not
+</I>&gt;<i> that.  Is there perhaps something I don't have installed that enables
+</I>&gt;<i> X+dm restart and autovt ?  If autovt were not present or disabled, that
+</I>&gt;<i> might explain why a second X+dm doesn't start (no available vt) ?
+</I>
+Sorry, I was unclear in my last email.
+
+I've not enabled the ability to start a second X+DM yet (it needs
+changes to the DM's themselves which I've not looked at - tho' it should
+be pretty simple) such that you can specify the vt to use when they are
+started.
+
+Then I'd need to adjust autovt to start a wrapper script that starts
+either getty or X+DM as appropriate.
+
+So this isn't in place yet, but I do still think it's the way forward.
+Should be possible to get it done I think.
+
+Col
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
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+<PRE>On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 14:03, Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tuesday, March 06, 2012 06:52:50 AM Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:34, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 11:25, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 06/03/12 02:33 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On Sunday, March 04, 2012 11:42:49 AM Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 04.03.2012 20:16, Thomas Spuhler skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The last successful build went through Feb. 10, 2012. I haven't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; upgraded and built any after that date until last weekend when they
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; all failed to build. I would have to change 80+ packages that are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; now using the pear type spec. I don't have the bandwidth to do that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; The message I get is this:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Unknown channel &quot;pear.horde.org&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Parsing of package.xml from file &quot;/var/tmp/pearwYoowh/package.xml&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; failed Cannot initialize
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; '/home/iurt/rpm/SOURCES/Horde_Itip-1.0.7.tgz', invalid or missing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; package file
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Package &quot;/home/iurt/rpm/SOURCES/Horde_Itip-1.0.7.tgz&quot; is not valid
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; install failed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Well, you better start fixing the packages...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Maybe you can download &amp; fix it in the specs only to save bw....
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Anything building on BS must build with only official mageia repos...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Otherwise we wont know what ends up in the packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Thomas
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Thomas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Many of the pear packages require to have the pear-cahnnel installed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Most of the horde require it. It's not installing a package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; We are not the only one, fedora folks do it too:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://nb.fedorapeople.org/horde-reviews/php-horde-Horde-Http.spec">http://nb.fedorapeople.org/horde-reviews/php-horde-Horde-Http.spec</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; BuildRequires: &#160;php-channel(pear.horde.org)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; installing this package needs to add pear-channel-horde. If it doesn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; the package doesn't build.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; They do not even use a pearized specification.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It's nothing to do with adding or not the channel. It's the fact that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; this operation requires network access. You need to patch the systems
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; such that they do not require network access to add the channel.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; This is a rule that has been in place for a long time. I'm surprised
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; it's only coming up as an issue now to be honest.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The same thing happens when e.g. there are not XML schemas installed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; locally for man page building and similar. It's just a matter of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; installing the relevant package to provide local, cached versions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; And as shown in the fedora link, they use BuildRequires:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; php-channel(pear.horde.org) to get it from another package
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Actually we had php-pear-channel-horde which installed the xml file
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but still connected to internet instead of using it, I think I fixed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I will check it tonight. Only thw horde packages need it, the other pear
+</I>&gt;<i> packages don't have a channel install requires.
+</I>
+After some more fixing (%post was testing if $1 is 0 which can never
+happen in a post, it is 1 for install and &gt;= 2 for updates),
+php-pear-Horde_Itip-1.0.7-1.mga2 was uploaded successfully.
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+&gt;<i> Sorry, I was unclear in my last email. I've not enabled the ability to 
+</I>&gt;<i> start a second X+DM yet (it needs changes to the DM's themselves which 
+</I>&gt;<i> I've not looked at - tho' it should be pretty simple) such that you 
+</I>&gt;<i> can specify the vt to use when they are started. Then I'd need to 
+</I>&gt;<i> adjust autovt to start a wrapper script that starts either getty or 
+</I>&gt;<i> X+DM as appropriate. So this isn't in place yet, but I do still think 
+</I>&gt;<i> it's the way forward. Should be possible to get it done I think. Col 
+</I>
+OK, so static gettys are gone, dynamic ones don't work yet, and X+DM 
+can't yet start if you CTRL-ALT-Fn, which says that the only unexpected 
+part of what I'm seeing is that CTRL-ALT-Fn stays with the current 
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, that's to be expected anyway. Thx
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+Or tweak harddrake to let you in peace with X and video;
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+According to svnweb, it was last commited 7 months ago as a noarch
+package by wally. And it was not shown as broken dependency this
+weekend so it must have been deleted from the mirrors in the last few
+days out of some reason unknown to me. Is this a general problem on
+noarch packages or just some isolated thing with this package?
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> According to check.mageia.org, dmenu has a broken dependency, since
+</I>&gt;<i> terminus-font is missing from i586 repositories.
+</I>&gt;<i> According to svnweb, it was last commited 7 months ago as a noarch
+</I>&gt;<i> package by wally. And it was not shown as broken dependency this
+</I>&gt;<i> weekend so it must have been deleted from the mirrors in the last few
+</I>&gt;<i> days out of some reason unknown to me. Is this a general problem on
+</I>&gt;<i> noarch packages or just some isolated thing with this package?
+</I>
+Hmm I restored it but I have no idea what happened and it is not in
+old/ (the place where we move things to be deleted so that they stay
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 14:29, Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> According to check.mageia.org, dmenu has a broken dependency, since
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> terminus-font is missing from i586 repositories.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> According to svnweb, it was last commited 7 months ago as a noarch
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> package by wally. And it was not shown as broken dependency this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> weekend so it must have been deleted from the mirrors in the last few
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> days out of some reason unknown to me. Is this a general problem on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> noarch packages or just some isolated thing with this package?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm I restored it but I have no idea what happened and it is not in
+</I>&gt;<i> old/ (the place where we move things to be deleted so that they stay
+</I>&gt;<i> around for a few weeks)
+</I>
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">schedbot at valstar</A> ~]$ diff &lt;(find
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+-n1 basename |sort) &lt;(find /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/
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+&gt;<i> audiokonverter-5.9.1-1.mga2.tainted.noarch.rpm
+</I>&lt; bluez-firmware-1.2-6.mga1.noarch.rpm
+&gt;<i> jgoodies-animation-javadoc-1.3.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 06/03/12 14:25 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 03/06/2012 09:10 AM, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry, I was unclear in my last email. I've not enabled the ability to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> start a second X+DM yet (it needs changes to the DM's themselves which
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've not looked at - tho' it should be pretty simple) such that you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> can specify the vt to use when they are started. Then I'd need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> adjust autovt to start a wrapper script that starts either getty or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> X+DM as appropriate. So this isn't in place yet, but I do still think
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it's the way forward. Should be possible to get it done I think. Col 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, so static gettys are gone, dynamic ones don't work yet, and X+DM
+</I>&gt;<i> can't yet start if you CTRL-ALT-Fn, which says that the only unexpected
+</I>&gt;<i> part of what I'm seeing is that CTRL-ALT-Fn stays with the current
+</I>&gt;<i> desktop rather than going to a black screen ...
+</I>
+Sorry, I'm clearly not writing very eloquently today!!
+
+Dynamic getty's should work fine. I am using them here and even the
+initial message in this thread from Nanar said he also had it working
+(well his reply to m y response did).
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+(Just to explain: this is configured in
+/etc/systemd/systemd-logind.conf. You should have NAutoVTs=6 (or have it
+commented out) to get autovt's working... If it's set to 0 it is
+disabled otherwise it should just work. See &quot;man systemd-logind.conf&quot;
+for details)
+
+So there is something on your system that is not working properly...
+
+Not sure why it wouldn't work, but as you say, pressing the key combos
+means you stay on the same desktop... if that is the case that would
+imply something is broken before the vt auto-activation - i.e. something
+in the key handling itself. I presume you are not using virtualbox or
+similar? In VB you have to use RightShift+ALT+Fn...
+
+Col
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+-- 
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+&gt;<i> Sorry, I'm clearly not writing very eloquently today!!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Dynamic getty's should work fine. I am using them here and even the
+</I>&gt;<i> initial message in this thread from Nanar said he also had it working
+</I>&gt;<i> (well his reply to m y response did).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (Just to explain: this is configured in
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/systemd/systemd-logind.conf. You should have NAutoVTs=6 (or have it
+</I>&gt;<i> commented out) to get autovt's working... If it's set to 0 it is
+</I>&gt;<i> disabled otherwise it should just work. See &quot;man systemd-logind.conf&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> for details)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So there is something on your system that is not working properly...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not sure why it wouldn't work, but as you say, pressing the key combos
+</I>&gt;<i> means you stay on the same desktop... if that is the case that would
+</I>&gt;<i> imply something is broken before the vt auto-activation - i.e. something
+</I>&gt;<i> in the key handling itself. I presume you are not using virtualbox or
+</I>&gt;<i> similar? In VB you have to use RightShift+ALT+Fn...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+No, it's a native system, and CTRL-ALT-Fn has always worked.  I'll check 
+out the files you mention; thanks for taking the time to explain.
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+I am currently thinking about dropping kaffeine from the repositories for Mga2.
+The reason is some upstream bug - reported as #1934 in Mageia bugzilla
+and in several other distributions as well without any solution
+upstream.
+So kaffeine is rather instable right now and there seems not to be a
+real active development on it. In addition, there are many good
+alternatives for kaffeine, e.g. the different mplayer guis or vlc.
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+Any opinions on it?
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+&gt;<i> On 02/03/12 22:44, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> AFAIK you need to reconfigure your system to use the proprietary
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> modules...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, that's to be expected anyway. Thx
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Or tweak harddrake to let you in peace with X and video;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> checkout /etc/sysconfig/harddrake2/service.conf
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> AUTORECONFIGURE_RIGHT_XORG_DRIVER=no
+</I>&gt;<i> DETECT_VIDEO=no
+</I>
+No, this is no practical solution for the long run. I need the
+proprietary driver working correctly. So I need to know if something
+is wrong, so I can start repairing (or reporting).
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am currently thinking about dropping kaffeine from the repositories for Mga2.
+</I>&gt;<i> The reason is some upstream bug - reported as #1934 in Mageia bugzilla
+</I>&gt;<i> and in several other distributions as well without any solution
+</I>&gt;<i> upstream.
+</I>&gt;<i> So kaffeine is rather instable right now and there seems not to be a
+</I>&gt;<i> real active development on it. In addition, there are many good
+</I>&gt;<i> alternatives for kaffeine, e.g. the different mplayer guis or vlc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any opinions on it?
+</I>
+What about <A HREF="https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/multimedia/kaffeine/activity">https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/multimedia/kaffeine/activity</A>
+?
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
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+    <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> 
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+&gt;<i> what I expect in any case,
+</I>&gt;<i> be it an installation without X or a &quot;normal&quot; installation where  
+</I>&gt;<i> X fails to start, I expect to be dropped at a login prompt.
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+Hear, hear.
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+On 03/06/2012 07:27 AM, Anne nicolas wrote:
+&gt;<i> What about <A HREF="https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/multimedia/kaffeine/activity">https://projects.kde.org/projects/extragear/multimedia/kaffeine/activity</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ?
+</I>
+Kaffeine is my player of choice, so I'd prefer it to stay, especially if
+there is active development.  Even if the player were just made stable
+again and left alone, then I would prefer it to stay.
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+- --Jeff
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I am currently thinking about dropping kaffeine from the repositories for Mga2.
+</I>&gt;<i> The reason is some upstream bug - reported as #1934 in Mageia bugzilla
+</I>&gt;<i> and in several other distributions as well without any solution
+</I>&gt;<i> upstream.
+</I>&gt;<i> So kaffeine is rather instable right now and there seems not to be a
+</I>&gt;<i> real active development on it. In addition, there are many good
+</I>&gt;<i> alternatives for kaffeine, e.g. the different mplayer guis or vlc.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Any opinions on it?
+</I>
+Kaffeine has superior DVB support which works out-of-the-box (i.e.
+without manual command-line tinkering, just scan for channels via the
+GUI), that e.g. MPlayer GUIs or VLC do not have.
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+&gt;<i> On Tuesday 06 March 2012 14:52, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> what I expect in any case,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be it an installation without X or a &quot;normal&quot; installation where  
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> X fails to start, I expect to be dropped at a login prompt.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Hear, hear.
+</I>
+Please comment on the bug I linked to earlier then.
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+I would have thought some better help and instructions would have been
+better but if you guys all think dumping a novice user to a login prompt
+is better then so be it.
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+Col
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/6 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Johnny A. Solbu at 06/03/12 15:28 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tuesday 06 March 2012 14:52, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> what I expect in any case,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be it an installation without X or a &quot;normal&quot; installation where
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> X fails to start, I expect to be dropped at a login prompt.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hear, hear.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please comment on the bug I linked to earlier then.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would have thought some better help and instructions would have been
+</I>&gt;<i> better but if you guys all think dumping a novice user to a login prompt
+</I>&gt;<i> is better then so be it.
+</I>
+No, we guys all think dumping a novice user to a login prompt is far
+better than dumping him on a screen full of messages with no prompt or
+even a blackscreen.
+
+If you want to address the novice user, what do you think makes
+support in case of a failing x server easier for the helper AND the
+novice user, a black screen, a screen without a prompt but with a
+hanging list of messages instead - or a login prompt from where he can
+be directed to a solution (or given instructions to provide more
+information)?
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+-- 
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+    <B>Frank Griffin</B> 
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+&gt;<i> If you want to address the novice user, what do you think makes 
+</I>&gt;<i> support in case of a failing x server easier for the helper AND the 
+</I>&gt;<i> novice user, a black screen, a screen without a prompt but with a 
+</I>&gt;<i> hanging list of messages instead - or a login prompt from where he can 
+</I>&gt;<i> be directed to a solution (or given instructions to provide more 
+</I>&gt;<i> information)? 
+</I>
+Probably a better solution, if you know that X is supposed to come up 
+but isn't, is to automatically log him in as some new ID whose shell is 
+a script something like the rescue console script.  The first thing it 
+does is su him to prompt for the root password, and then presents a 
+character-based dialog explaining his options, offering to run XFdrake, 
+maybe running rpm/urpmi to see if all needed packages are installed, and 
+giving him to option to exit to a real shell if he wants.
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 03/06/2012 11:22 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you want to address the novice user, what do you think makes support in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> case of a failing x server easier for the helper AND the novice user, a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> black screen, a screen without a prompt but with a hanging list of messages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> instead - or a login prompt from where he can be directed to a solution (or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> given instructions to provide more information)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Probably a better solution, if you know that X is supposed to come up but
+</I>&gt;<i> isn't, is to automatically log him in as some new ID whose shell is a script
+</I>&gt;<i> something like the rescue console script. &#160;The first thing it does is su him
+</I>&gt;<i> to prompt for the root password, and then presents a character-based dialog
+</I>&gt;<i> explaining his options, offering to run XFdrake, maybe running rpm/urpmi to
+</I>&gt;<i> see if all needed packages are installed, and giving him to option to exit
+</I>&gt;<i> to a real shell if he wants.
+</I>
+Yes, that would be the next step on the road to user-friendly desaster
+management. As long as we do not have this a login prompt is better
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+    <B>zezinho</B> 
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+<PRE>Le lundi 5 mars 2012 23:53:53, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> If the game uses OSS, it will get exclusive access to it when used with
+</I>&gt;<i> the ALSA OSS modules.
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+Ok so it should only be used by  OSS games. I ask because I tried a simple 
+LXDE install, and then added OpenArena, and it did not start from the menu.
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+this games.
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 17:33, zezinho &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lists.jjorge at free.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le lundi 5 mars 2012 23:53:53, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If the game uses OSS, it will get exclusive access to it when used with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the ALSA OSS modules.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok so it should only be used by &#160;OSS games. I ask because I tried a simple
+</I>&gt;<i> LXDE install, and then added OpenArena, and it did not start from the menu.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In fact, soundwrapper was not installed. So I will Require soundwrapper on all
+</I>&gt;<i> this games.
+</I>
+I think the point is: anything using soundwrapper should require it,
+whether it actually needs it or not.
+But yes it would be better to remove it from the command if it is not needed :)
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/6 Frank Griffin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 03/06/2012 11:22 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you want to address the novice user, what do you think makes support in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> case of a failing x server easier for the helper AND the novice user, a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> black screen, a screen without a prompt but with a hanging list of messages
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> instead - or a login prompt from where he can be directed to a solution (or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> given instructions to provide more information)?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Probably a better solution, if you know that X is supposed to come up but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> isn't, is to automatically log him in as some new ID whose shell is a script
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> something like the rescue console script.  The first thing it does is su him
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to prompt for the root password, and then presents a character-based dialog
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> explaining his options, offering to run XFdrake, maybe running rpm/urpmi to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> see if all needed packages are installed, and giving him to option to exit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to a real shell if he wants.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, that would be the next step on the road to user-friendly desaster
+</I>&gt;<i> management. 
+</I>
+Well, that's my whole point!!!
+
+&gt;<i> As long as we do not have this a login prompt is better than nothing.
+</I>
+So I should spend my time doing this, only to undo it later for a
+different solution?
+
+I'm sorry, but I'm not willing to waste time on this until it's decided
+that this is the all we're going to do and what we'll ship.
+
+As far as things stand I see it as tangential to what I'd like to
+achieve so I'd rather spend what limited time I have working on that
+than something that could ultimately be thrown away later.
+
+Col
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and zezinho at 06/03/12 17:33 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Le lundi 5 mars 2012 23:53:53, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If the game uses OSS, it will get exclusive access to it when used with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the ALSA OSS modules.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok so it should only be used by  OSS games. I ask because I tried a simple 
+</I>&gt;<i> LXDE install, and then added OpenArena, and it did not start from the menu.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> In fact, soundwrapper was not installed. So I will Require soundwrapper on all 
+</I>&gt;<i> this games.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there a simple way to check if a game uses alsa-oss modules ?
+</I>
+You can tell if an application uses oss by doing:
+ sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp
+
+Col
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/6 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 06/03/12 16:56 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/6 Frank Griffin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 03/06/2012 11:22 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you want to address the novice user, what do you think makes support in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> case of a failing x server easier for the helper AND the novice user, a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> black screen, a screen without a prompt but with a hanging list of messages
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> instead - or a login prompt from where he can be directed to a solution (or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> given instructions to provide more information)?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Probably a better solution, if you know that X is supposed to come up but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> isn't, is to automatically log him in as some new ID whose shell is a script
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> something like the rescue console script. &#160;The first thing it does is su him
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to prompt for the root password, and then presents a character-based dialog
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> explaining his options, offering to run XFdrake, maybe running rpm/urpmi to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> see if all needed packages are installed, and giving him to option to exit
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to a real shell if he wants.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, that would be the next step on the road to user-friendly desaster
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> management.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, that's my whole point!!!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As long as we do not have this a login prompt is better than nothing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I should spend my time doing this, only to undo it later for a
+</I>&gt;<i> different solution?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm sorry, but I'm not willing to waste time on this until it's decided
+</I>&gt;<i> that this is the all we're going to do and what we'll ship.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As far as things stand I see it as tangential to what I'd like to
+</I>&gt;<i> achieve so I'd rather spend what limited time I have working on that
+</I>&gt;<i> than something that could ultimately be thrown away later.
+</I>
+Ah, ok, I understand your point now.
+The big question is: What is the time span we are talking about here?
+A week, month? Would you think you can achieve this better solution
+until Mageia 2 RC? If so, I am totally ok with that. If you think it
+will take longer than that, I do not think we can let this issue leave
+hanging in the air when we approach Mageia 2 final, wasted work or
+not.
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+-- 
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+As per <A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657385">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657385</A>
+gtk_menu_popup_for_device() has been renamed to gtk_menu_popup() in
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+Attached are alternative one-liner patches to either revert the API
+break in Gtk+3.0 (dont_rename_annotation.patch, from Ubuntu), or to
+adapt python-gobject3 to the API change
+(python-gi-adapt-for-gnome657385.patch, written by me).
+
+Since gtk+3.0 is unmaintained, I'm posting here to ask which way to go.
+
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+This affects e.g. gcdemu, right-clicking the traybar icon causes this error:
+Traceback (most recent call last):
+  File &quot;/usr/bin/gcdemu&quot;, line 688, in on_popup_menu
+    self.menu.popup(None, None, status_icon.position_menu, self, button,
+activate_time)
+  File &quot;/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/gi/overrides/Gtk.py&quot;, line
+1381, in popup
+    self.popup_for_device(None, parent_menu_shell, parent_menu_item,
+func, data, button, activate_time)
+AttributeError: 'Menu' object has no attribute 'popup_for_device'
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+
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/6 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 06/03/12 16:56 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/6 Frank Griffin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 03/06/2012 11:22 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you want to address the novice user, what do you think makes support in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> case of a failing x server easier for the helper AND the novice user, a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> black screen, a screen without a prompt but with a hanging list of messages
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> instead - or a login prompt from where he can be directed to a solution (or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> given instructions to provide more information)?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Probably a better solution, if you know that X is supposed to come up but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> isn't, is to automatically log him in as some new ID whose shell is a script
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> something like the rescue console script.  The first thing it does is su him
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to prompt for the root password, and then presents a character-based dialog
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> explaining his options, offering to run XFdrake, maybe running rpm/urpmi to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> see if all needed packages are installed, and giving him to option to exit
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to a real shell if he wants.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, that would be the next step on the road to user-friendly desaster
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> management.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, that's my whole point!!!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As long as we do not have this a login prompt is better than nothing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So I should spend my time doing this, only to undo it later for a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> different solution?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm sorry, but I'm not willing to waste time on this until it's decided
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that this is the all we're going to do and what we'll ship.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As far as things stand I see it as tangential to what I'd like to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> achieve so I'd rather spend what limited time I have working on that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> than something that could ultimately be thrown away later.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Ah, ok, I understand your point now.
+</I>&gt;<i> The big question is: What is the time span we are talking about here?
+</I>&gt;<i> A week, month? Would you think you can achieve this better solution
+</I>&gt;<i> until Mageia 2 RC? 
+</I>
+Perhaps by beta2, but more likely by RC. I'll certainly make sure that
+for beta2 a minimal install will properly present itself with
+multi-user.target by default such that a getty will be shown on tty1 (as
+already outlined, the getty on tty1 is only suppressed when there is
+supposed to be a graphical login - and only a problem when that fails!).
+
+&gt;<i> If so, I am totally ok with that. If you think it
+</I>&gt;<i> will take longer than that, I do not think we can let this issue leave
+</I>&gt;<i> hanging in the air when we approach Mageia 2 final, wasted work or
+</I>&gt;<i> not.
+</I>
+Yeah. I would agree there has to be a limit. I'd say RC2 should be that
+limit. If I've not found a better way of doing things by then, I'll do
+whatever is needed to make a getty appear...
+
+[Just to explain further, displaying a tty on failure is tricky due to
+the complex interplay of different and conflicting configurations. I
+*could* just run agetty manually at the end of the /etc/X11/prefdm
+script, but then this then this would be considered by systemd as being
+part of the prefdm service and thus if you login and restart prefdm
+(which might be common) it would first of all kill the getty itself as
+part of the &quot;stopping&quot; procedure! Now if it fails the user would be
+dumped back at a login prompt again... not really very user friendly!
+Hence, to solve this properly it would really be a matter of changing
+the current target (aka runlevel) from default.target (which will be an
+alias for graphical.target) to multi-user.target, but this may have
+other consequences. I think this latter solution (changing target) is
+the correct solution, but it really needs to be played out and tested
+thoroughly. I'm also not sure what consequences there are (if any) of
+running a command to change the target while running a specific service.
+I think all will be fine, but all the same I'd need to investigate. And
+after all that of course, we're supposed to still support sysvinit too
+so we I'll have to at least look into things mostly working there (I
+won't aim for sysvinit to be fully quirk free as it is clearly on the
+way out and thus (being realistic) won't get as much time dedicated to
+it). So it's not just a five or ten minute job!]
+
+Col
+
+
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 06/03/12 17:57 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/6 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 06/03/12 16:56 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/6 Frank Griffin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftg at roadrunner.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 03/06/2012 11:22 AM, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you want to address the novice user, what do you think makes support in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> case of a failing x server easier for the helper AND the novice user, a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> black screen, a screen without a prompt but with a hanging list of messages
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> instead - or a login prompt from where he can be directed to a solution (or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> given instructions to provide more information)?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Probably a better solution, if you know that X is supposed to come up but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> isn't, is to automatically log him in as some new ID whose shell is a script
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> something like the rescue console script. &#160;The first thing it does is su him
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to prompt for the root password, and then presents a character-based dialog
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> explaining his options, offering to run XFdrake, maybe running rpm/urpmi to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> see if all needed packages are installed, and giving him to option to exit
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to a real shell if he wants.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, that would be the next step on the road to user-friendly desaster
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> management.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Well, that's my whole point!!!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As long as we do not have this a login prompt is better than nothing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So I should spend my time doing this, only to undo it later for a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> different solution?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm sorry, but I'm not willing to waste time on this until it's decided
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that this is the all we're going to do and what we'll ship.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As far as things stand I see it as tangential to what I'd like to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> achieve so I'd rather spend what limited time I have working on that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> than something that could ultimately be thrown away later.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ah, ok, I understand your point now.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The big question is: What is the time span we are talking about here?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A week, month? Would you think you can achieve this better solution
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> until Mageia 2 RC?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps by beta2, but more likely by RC. I'll certainly make sure that
+</I>&gt;<i> for beta2 a minimal install will properly present itself with
+</I>&gt;<i> multi-user.target by default such that a getty will be shown on tty1 (as
+</I>&gt;<i> already outlined, the getty on tty1 is only suppressed when there is
+</I>&gt;<i> supposed to be a graphical login - and only a problem when that fails!).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If so, I am totally ok with that. If you think it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> will take longer than that, I do not think we can let this issue leave
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hanging in the air when we approach Mageia 2 final, wasted work or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah. I would agree there has to be a limit. I'd say RC2 should be that
+</I>&gt;<i> limit. If I've not found a better way of doing things by then, I'll do
+</I>&gt;<i> whatever is needed to make a getty appear...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [Just to explain further, displaying a tty on failure is tricky due to
+</I>&gt;<i> the complex interplay of different and conflicting configurations. I
+</I>&gt;<i> *could* just run agetty manually at the end of the /etc/X11/prefdm
+</I>&gt;<i> script, but then this then this would be considered by systemd as being
+</I>&gt;<i> part of the prefdm service and thus if you login and restart prefdm
+</I>&gt;<i> (which might be common) it would first of all kill the getty itself as
+</I>&gt;<i> part of the &quot;stopping&quot; procedure! Now if it fails the user would be
+</I>&gt;<i> dumped back at a login prompt again... not really very user friendly!
+</I>&gt;<i> Hence, to solve this properly it would really be a matter of changing
+</I>&gt;<i> the current target (aka runlevel) from default.target (which will be an
+</I>&gt;<i> alias for graphical.target) to multi-user.target, but this may have
+</I>&gt;<i> other consequences. I think this latter solution (changing target) is
+</I>&gt;<i> the correct solution, but it really needs to be played out and tested
+</I>&gt;<i> thoroughly. I'm also not sure what consequences there are (if any) of
+</I>&gt;<i> running a command to change the target while running a specific service.
+</I>&gt;<i> I think all will be fine, but all the same I'd need to investigate. And
+</I>&gt;<i> after all that of course, we're supposed to still support sysvinit too
+</I>&gt;<i> so we I'll have to at least look into things mostly working there (I
+</I>&gt;<i> won't aim for sysvinit to be fully quirk free as it is clearly on the
+</I>&gt;<i> way out and thus (being realistic) won't get as much time dedicated to
+</I>&gt;<i> it). So it's not just a five or ten minute job!]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+The force be with you, it will !
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+    <B>Angelo Naselli</B> 
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Kaffeine is my player of choice, so I'd prefer it to stay, especially if
+</I>&gt;<i> there is active development.  Even if the player were just made stable
+</I>&gt;<i> again and left alone, then I would prefer it to stay.
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+<PRE>In data marted&#236; 6 marzo 2012 16:54:43, Anssi Hannula ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> Kaffeine has superior DVB support which works out-of-the-box (i.e.
+</I>&gt;<i> without manual command-line tinkering, just scan for channels via the
+</I>&gt;<i> GUI), that e.g. MPlayer GUIs or VLC do not have.
+</I>And that why i'm using kaffeine first :)
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+&gt;<i> In data marted&#236; 6 marzo 2012 16:54:43, Anssi Hannula ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Kaffeine has superior DVB support which works out-of-the-box (i.e.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> without manual command-line tinkering, just scan for channels via the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> GUI), that e.g. MPlayer GUIs or VLC do not have.
+</I>&gt;<i> And that why i'm using kaffeine first :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Ok...
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+you convinced me...
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+I will try then and get upstream to fix that bug.
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 06/03/12 17:57 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> Ah, ok, I understand your point now.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The big question is: What is the time span we are talking about here?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A week, month? Would you think you can achieve this better solution
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> until Mageia 2 RC? 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps by beta2, but more likely by RC. I'll certainly make sure that
+</I>&gt;<i> for beta2 a minimal install will properly present itself with
+</I>&gt;<i> multi-user.target by default such that a getty will be shown on tty1 (as
+</I>&gt;<i> already outlined, the getty on tty1 is only suppressed when there is
+</I>&gt;<i> supposed to be a graphical login - and only a problem when that fails!).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If so, I am totally ok with that. If you think it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> will take longer than that, I do not think we can let this issue leave
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hanging in the air when we approach Mageia 2 final, wasted work or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah. I would agree there has to be a limit. I'd say RC2 should be that
+</I>&gt;<i> limit. If I've not found a better way of doing things by then, I'll do
+</I>&gt;<i> whatever is needed to make a getty appear...
+</I>
+There is no RC2 planned...
+
+Planned timetable is:
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+beta2: March 15th
+rc: April 10th
+final: May 3rd
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+Thomas
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 14:39, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Tue, Mar 6, 2012 at 14:29, Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; 
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; According to check.mageia.org, dmenu has a broken dependency, since
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; terminus-font is missing from i586 repositories.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; According to svnweb, it was last commited 7 months ago as a noarch
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; package by wally. And it was not shown as broken dependency this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; weekend so it must have been deleted from the mirrors in the last few
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; days out of some reason unknown to me. Is this a general problem on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; noarch packages or just some isolated thing with this package?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hmm I restored it but I have no idea what happened and it is not in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; old/ (the place where we move things to be deleted so that they stay
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; around for a few weeks)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">schedbot at valstar</A> ~]$ diff &lt;(find
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/ -name '*noarch.rpm' | xargs
+</I>&gt;<i> -n1 basename |sort) &lt;(find /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/
+</I>&gt;<i> -name '*noarch.rpm' | xargs -n1 basename | sort) | grep '^[&lt;&gt;]'
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; audiokonverter-5.9.1-1.mga2.tainted.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt; bluez-firmware-1.2-6.mga1.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; jgoodies-animation-javadoc-1.3.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; xml-commons-apis-manual-1.4.01-6.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> Now I'm not sure on the logic inside the Xserver that is used to search
+</I>&gt;<i> for a free getty. it maybe starts from the current one and counts up. If
+</I>&gt;<i> so, this logic should (IMO) be changed to start searching from 1 that
+</I>&gt;<i> way it would relatively consistently start on vt1 even when restarted
+</I>&gt;<i> from tty2.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
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+a config file. Is this correct? Most initscripts are not meant to be
+configured... is this the exception that proves the rule?
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+-- 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 06/03/12 19:30 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 06.03.2012 20:36, Colin Guthrie skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 06/03/12 17:57 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ah, ok, I understand your point now.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The big question is: What is the time span we are talking about here?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> A week, month? Would you think you can achieve this better solution
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> until Mageia 2 RC? 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Perhaps by beta2, but more likely by RC. I'll certainly make sure that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for beta2 a minimal install will properly present itself with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> multi-user.target by default such that a getty will be shown on tty1 (as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> already outlined, the getty on tty1 is only suppressed when there is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> supposed to be a graphical login - and only a problem when that fails!).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If so, I am totally ok with that. If you think it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> will take longer than that, I do not think we can let this issue leave
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> hanging in the air when we approach Mageia 2 final, wasted work or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> not.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yeah. I would agree there has to be a limit. I'd say RC2 should be that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> limit. If I've not found a better way of doing things by then, I'll do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> whatever is needed to make a getty appear...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> There is no RC2 planned...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Planned timetable is:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> beta2: March 15th
+</I>&gt;<i> rc: April 10th
+</I>&gt;<i> final: May 3rd
+</I>
+OK, then I guess &quot;by the rc&quot; then :)
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 19:41 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 14:28:38 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now I'm not sure on the logic inside the Xserver that is used to search
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for a free getty. it maybe starts from the current one and counts up. If
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so, this logic should (IMO) be changed to start searching from 1 that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> way it would relatively consistently start on vt1 even when restarted
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from tty2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> have you been successfull with 2 user sessions?
+</I>
+As in logging out and back in again or with fast user switching?
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+The former has worked quite happily for me. Not tested the latter but I
+expect there to be some quirks.
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+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Yeah. I would agree there has to be a limit. I'd say RC2 should be that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; limit. If I've not found a better way of doing things by then, I'll do
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; whatever is needed to make a getty appear...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There is no RC2 planned...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Planned timetable is:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; beta2: March 15th
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rc: April 10th
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; final: May 3rd
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, then I guess &quot;by the rc&quot; then :)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 19:41 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 14:28:38 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Now I'm not sure on the logic inside the Xserver that is used to search
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; for a free getty. it maybe starts from the current one and counts up. If
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; so, this logic should (IMO) be changed to start searching from 1 that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; way it would relatively consistently start on vt1 even when restarted
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; from tty2.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Col
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have you been successfull with 2 user sessions?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> As in logging out and back in again or with fast user switching?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The former has worked quite happily for me. Not tested the latter but I
+</I>&gt;<i> expect there to be some quirks.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+err, no, i mean 2 X sessions.
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+often i have one KDE session running on vt8 and one for my wife on vt9 and 
+sometimes on for my daughter at vt10...
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+the question is, with the prefdm only conflicting with the first getty, will 
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+</I>&gt;<i> I noticed while doing the updates round that the file
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/init.d/lvm2-monitor had a .rpmnew... Thus is seems to be marked as
+</I>&gt;<i> a config file. Is this correct? Most initscripts are not meant to be
+</I>&gt;<i> configured... is this the exception that proves the rule?
+</I>
+Doesn't look like configurable.
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+I have many times seen random non-config files marked as
+%config(noreplace) in very old .specs just because they are in /etc.
+This instance also predates mdv SVN migration (unfortunately their CVS
+has been brought down).
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+people to add unwanted %config flags...)
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+&gt;<i> Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 20:52:02 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 19:41 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 14:28:38 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now I'm not sure on the logic inside the Xserver that is used to search
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for a free getty. it maybe starts from the current one and counts up. If
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> so, this logic should (IMO) be changed to start searching from 1 that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> way it would relatively consistently start on vt1 even when restarted
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> from tty2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have you been successfull with 2 user sessions?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As in logging out and back in again or with fast user switching?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The former has worked quite happily for me. Not tested the latter but I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> expect there to be some quirks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> err, no, i mean 2 X sessions.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> often i have one KDE session running on vt8 and one for my wife on vt9 and 
+</I>&gt;<i> sometimes on for my daughter at vt10...
+</I>
+OK, so fast user switching then.
+
+&gt;<i> the question is, with the prefdm only conflicting with the first getty, will 
+</I>&gt;<i> several X sessions be possible?
+</I>
+Yeah. They should, in theory at least, start on vt2 and vt3, tho' this
+may depend on the desktop itself. With GDM+Gnome the second session
+starts on tty2, the third on tty3 etc.
+
+There is a caveat however. If you have switched to tty2 before picking
+the &quot;Login as another user&quot; option, then autovt will have kicked in and
+started a getty there. It then &quot;hogs&quot; tty2 and prevents X from using it.
+
+Of course if I manage to get my idea working, switching to tty2 when in
+graphical.target will actually give you a graphical login prompt anyway,
+so pretty much the same thing as picking the &quot;Login as another user&quot;
+option from within the first graphical session.
+
+Col
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 20:09 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 20:52:02 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 19:41 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 14:28:38 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Now I'm not sure on the logic inside the Xserver that is used to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; search for a free getty. it maybe starts from the current one and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; counts up. If so, this logic should (IMO) be changed to start
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; searching from 1 that way it would relatively consistently start on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; vt1 even when restarted from tty2.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Col
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; have you been successfull with 2 user sessions?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; As in logging out and back in again or with fast user switching?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The former has worked quite happily for me. Not tested the latter but I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; expect there to be some quirks.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Col
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; err, no, i mean 2 X sessions.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; often i have one KDE session running on vt8 and one for my wife on vt9
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and sometimes on for my daughter at vt10...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, so fast user switching then.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the question is, with the prefdm only conflicting with the first getty,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; will several X sessions be possible?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah. They should, in theory at least, start on vt2 and vt3, tho' this
+</I>&gt;<i> may depend on the desktop itself. With GDM+Gnome the second session
+</I>&gt;<i> starts on tty2, the third on tty3 etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> There is a caveat however. If you have switched to tty2 before picking
+</I>&gt;<i> the &quot;Login as another user&quot; option, then autovt will have kicked in and
+</I>&gt;<i> started a getty there. It then &quot;hogs&quot; tty2 and prevents X from using it.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course if I manage to get my idea working, switching to tty2 when in
+</I>&gt;<i> graphical.target will actually give you a graphical login prompt anyway,
+</I>&gt;<i> so pretty much the same thing as picking the &quot;Login as another user&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> option from within the first graphical session.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+ic...
+
+i do hope we get some kind of vt that will always be tty? i do sometimes 
+require that, when getting too much load and OOM'ing...
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+also, it'd be nice to have as possibility (in the dm) to start a tty session 
+instead of a graphical session (as an alternative)
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+&gt;<i> Hi!
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+</I>&gt;<i> As per <A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657385">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657385</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> gtk_menu_popup_for_device() has been renamed to gtk_menu_popup() in
+</I>&gt;<i> introspection, causing at least Menu.popup() in python-gi to break.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Ubuntu has reverted it:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/923171">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/923171</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Attached are alternative one-liner patches to either revert the API
+</I>&gt;<i> break in Gtk+3.0 (dont_rename_annotation.patch, from Ubuntu), or to
+</I>&gt;<i> adapt python-gobject3 to the API change
+</I>&gt;<i> (python-gi-adapt-for-gnome657385.patch, written by me).
+</I>
+My gut feeling would be that your patch is the better and more upstream
+compatible direction here.
+
+I suspect if the Ubuntu approach is used, we'll also have to fix Vala
+stuff in the future too (which will very likely follow the upstream
+direction). Don't know what else would use the introspection stuff.
+
+Col
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+&gt;&gt;<i> As per <A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657385">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657385</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gtk_menu_popup_for_device() has been renamed to gtk_menu_popup() in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> introspection, causing at least Menu.popup() in python-gi to break.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ubuntu has reverted it:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/923171">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/923171</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Attached are alternative one-liner patches to either revert the API
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> break in Gtk+3.0 (dont_rename_annotation.patch, from Ubuntu), or to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> adapt python-gobject3 to the API change
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (python-gi-adapt-for-gnome657385.patch, written by me).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My gut feeling would be that your patch is the better and more upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> compatible direction here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I suspect if the Ubuntu approach is used, we'll also have to fix Vala
+</I>&gt;<i> stuff in the future too (which will very likely follow the upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> direction). Don't know what else would use the introspection stuff.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Is there a simple way to check if a game uses alsa-oss modules ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can tell if an application uses oss by doing:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp
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+&gt;<i> 06.03.2012 17:12, Oliver Burger kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am currently thinking about dropping kaffeine from the repositories for Mga2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The reason is some upstream bug - reported as #1934 in Mageia bugzilla
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and in several other distributions as well without any solution
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> upstream.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So kaffeine is rather instable right now and there seems not to be a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> real active development on it. In addition, there are many good
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> alternatives for kaffeine, e.g. the different mplayer guis or vlc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any opinions on it?
+</I>&gt;<i> Kaffeine has superior DVB support which works out-of-the-box (i.e.
+</I>&gt;<i> without manual command-line tinkering, just scan for channels via the
+</I>&gt;<i> GUI), that e.g. MPlayer GUIs or VLC do not have.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I've not used kaffeine since a long time, i prefer me-tv, it's just
+as easy to use, maybe even easier and i like the embedded EPG
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+<PRE>Am 06.03.2012 21:43, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+&gt;<i> Am 06.03.2012 16:54, schrieb Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 06.03.2012 17:12, Oliver Burger kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I am currently thinking about dropping kaffeine from the repositories
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for Mga2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The reason is some upstream bug - reported as #1934 in Mageia bugzilla
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and in several other distributions as well without any solution
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> upstream.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So kaffeine is rather instable right now and there seems not to be a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> real active development on it. In addition, there are many good
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> alternatives for kaffeine, e.g. the different mplayer guis or vlc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any opinions on it?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Kaffeine has superior DVB support which works out-of-the-box (i.e.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> without manual command-line tinkering, just scan for channels via the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> GUI), that e.g. MPlayer GUIs or VLC do not have.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've not used kaffeine since a long time, i prefer me-tv, it's just
+</I>&gt;<i> as easy to use, maybe even easier and i like the embedded EPG
+</I>&gt;<i> shown in windowed mode. It's also actively developed.
+</I>As Anne showed with her link, kaffeine's development is moving on again. 
+So let't leave it in the repos for now.
+
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+<PRE>Le mardi 6 mars 2012 21:41:10, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 6 March 2012 18:53, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Is there a simple way to check if a game uses alsa-oss modules ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; You can tell if an application uses oss by doing:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;  sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> You don't need to be root in order to do that:
+</I>&gt;<i> /sbin/fuser -v /dev/dsp
+</I>
+Thanks guys. So far only clanbomber needs soundwrapper, I am cleaning all 
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+<PRE>On 23 February 2012 22:39,  &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Revision 3040 Author tv Date 2012-02-23 22:39:51 +0100 (Thu, 23 Feb 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
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+</I>&gt;<i> include missing hid-logitech-dj HID driver (mga#4129)
+</I>
+We may miss more.
+The kernel has way more.
+Some we don't care about (eg: wacom) but some more may be needed at install time
+WDYT?
+
+&gt;<i> --- drakx/trunk/kernel/list_modules.pm	2012-02-23 20:10:41 UTC (rev 3039)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ drakx/trunk/kernel/list_modules.pm	2012-02-23 21:39:51 UTC (rev 3040)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -178,7 +178,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i>      ],
+</I>&gt;<i>      hid =&gt; [ qw(hid-a4tech hid-apple hid-belkin hid-cherry hid-chicony
+</I>&gt;<i>                  hid-cypress hid-drff hid-ezkey hid-gaff hid-gyration
+</I>&gt;<i> hid-kensington hid-kye
+</I>&gt;<i> -                hid-keytouch hid-logitech hid-microsoft hid-monterey
+</I>&gt;<i> hid-multilaser hid-ntrig
+</I>&gt;<i> +                hid-keytouch hid-logitech hid-logitech-dj hid-microsoft
+</I>&gt;<i> hid-monterey hid-multilaser hid-ntrig
+</I>&gt;<i>                  hid-petalynx hid-pl hid-samsung hid-sjoy hid-sony
+</I>&gt;<i> hid-sunplus
+</I>&gt;<i>                  hid-tmff hid-topseed hid-uclogic hid-zpff hid-wacom
+</I>&gt;<i> ff-memless) ],
+</I>&gt;<i>     #serial_cs
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+&gt;<i> dmorgan &lt;dmorgan&gt; 7.6-6.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 220183
+</I>&gt;<i> - Remove libmesaglw-devel which does not exist anymore
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+&gt;<i> Am 06.03.2012 21:43, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 06.03.2012 16:54, schrieb Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 06.03.2012 17:12, Oliver Burger kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I am currently thinking about dropping kaffeine from the repositories
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for Mga2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The reason is some upstream bug - reported as #1934 in Mageia bugzilla
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and in several other distributions as well without any solution
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> upstream.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So kaffeine is rather instable right now and there seems not to be a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> real active development on it. In addition, there are many good
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> alternatives for kaffeine, e.g. the different mplayer guis or vlc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any opinions on it?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Kaffeine has superior DVB support which works out-of-the-box (i.e.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> without manual command-line tinkering, just scan for channels via the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> GUI), that e.g. MPlayer GUIs or VLC do not have.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've not used kaffeine since a long time, i prefer me-tv, it's just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as easy to use, maybe even easier and i like the embedded EPG
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shown in windowed mode. It's also actively developed.
+</I>&gt;<i> As Anne showed with her link, kaffeine's development is moving on again. So 
+</I>&gt;<i> let't leave it in the repos for now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>For clarification, my comment was not for or against kaffeine,
+as i don't use it, i've got no strong opinion so far. Just wanted
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 20:29 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 21:19:49 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 20:09 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 20:52:02 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 06/03/12 19:41 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op dinsdag 06 maart 2012 14:28:38 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now I'm not sure on the logic inside the Xserver that is used to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> search for a free getty. it maybe starts from the current one and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> counts up. If so, this logic should (IMO) be changed to start
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> searching from 1 that way it would relatively consistently start on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> vt1 even when restarted from tty2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have you been successfull with 2 user sessions?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As in logging out and back in again or with fast user switching?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The former has worked quite happily for me. Not tested the latter but I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> expect there to be some quirks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> err, no, i mean 2 X sessions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> often i have one KDE session running on vt8 and one for my wife on vt9
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and sometimes on for my daughter at vt10...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OK, so fast user switching then.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the question is, with the prefdm only conflicting with the first getty,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> will several X sessions be possible?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yeah. They should, in theory at least, start on vt2 and vt3, tho' this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> may depend on the desktop itself. With GDM+Gnome the second session
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> starts on tty2, the third on tty3 etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is a caveat however. If you have switched to tty2 before picking
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the &quot;Login as another user&quot; option, then autovt will have kicked in and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> started a getty there. It then &quot;hogs&quot; tty2 and prevents X from using it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Of course if I manage to get my idea working, switching to tty2 when in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> graphical.target will actually give you a graphical login prompt anyway,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so pretty much the same thing as picking the &quot;Login as another user&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> option from within the first graphical session.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> ic...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> i do hope we get some kind of vt that will always be tty? i do sometimes 
+</I>&gt;<i> require that, when getting too much load and OOM'ing...
+</I>
+Yeah I agree here. That's why I originally suggested keeping some TTY
+for text use (tho' I do still think the primary focus on a graphical
+setup should be for graphical login hence why tty1-8 (ish) should be IMO
+reserved for graphical logins, with text only on 9+ or similar. I think
+that's a good compromise, even if it's not what the greybeards expect (I
+do still consider myself to be a greybeard in some ways too here! I hope
+no one takes this as derogatory :D)
+
+&gt;<i> also, it'd be nice to have as possibility (in the dm) to start a tty session 
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of a graphical session (as an alternative)
+</I>
+While I don't necessarily disagree with this, I think it should be very
+much de-emphasised. Not obvious for novice users, but something power
+users could find.
+
+Take care
+
+Col
+
+
+-- 
+
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 06/03/12 20:41 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 6 March 2012 18:53, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is there a simple way to check if a game uses alsa-oss modules ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You can tell if an application uses oss by doing:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> You don't need to be root in order to do that:
+</I>&gt;<i> /sbin/fuser -v /dev/dsp
+</I>
+Hmm... but I think it only shows pid if it's another user... which is
+why I always suggest sudo - mpd running as mpd user is a common cause of
+the hogging and thus it's nice to see that rather than a number.
+
+Col.
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 12:38 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No text terminal at all? Not on tty2 or 3?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed, alt + F2 show the login prompt. But before I pressed alt + F2 ps
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> was not showing any &quot;*getty&quot; program, a bit confusing, especially since
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there is nothing on first console.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just to expand on this point.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> getty's are started on demand these days. It's done by <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">autovt at .service.</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want to configure static gettys then you can do so easily enough
+</I>&gt;<i> (just symlink /lib/systemd/system/getty*.service as
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/systemd/systemd/multi-user.target.wants/<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at tty2.service</A> to get a
+</I>&gt;<i> static getty on tty2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But if your system is typically a graphical system, then why bother
+</I>&gt;<i> stating it statically and have it running all the time using resources.
+</I>&gt;<i> Auto-activation seems fine as a default setup to me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, the problem you seemed to get was that no dm was installed and thus
+</I>&gt;<i> the /etc/X11/prefdm script reached the end.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IMO we very much DO want to have something done at the end of this
+</I>&gt;<i> script to give the user some help. This might include stopping
+</I>&gt;<i> prefdm.service via systemd and starting the tty, or perhaps better,
+</I>&gt;<i> showing some specific help (either text, or via plymouth or similar).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is something that I've suggested in a bug, but no feedback on that
+</I>&gt;<i> idea yet:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4750">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4750</A>
+</I>
+Bug 4750 - Unable to install Mageia beta 1 with raid ahci   ???
+
+are you sure it is this one?
+
+
+Luc
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Luc Menut at 06/03/12 23:24 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Le 06/03/2012 14:35, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 06/03/12 12:38 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No text terminal at all? Not on tty2 or 3?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed, alt + F2 show the login prompt. But before I pressed alt + F2 ps
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> was not showing any &quot;*getty&quot; program, a bit confusing, especially since
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> there is nothing on first console.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just to expand on this point.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> getty's are started on demand these days. It's done by <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">autovt at .service.</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you want to configure static gettys then you can do so easily enough
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (just symlink /lib/systemd/system/getty*.service as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /etc/systemd/systemd/multi-user.target.wants/<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at tty2.service</A> to get a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> static getty on tty2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But if your system is typically a graphical system, then why bother
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> stating it statically and have it running all the time using resources.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Auto-activation seems fine as a default setup to me.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now, the problem you seemed to get was that no dm was installed and thus
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the /etc/X11/prefdm script reached the end.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IMO we very much DO want to have something done at the end of this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> script to give the user some help. This might include stopping
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> prefdm.service via systemd and starting the tty, or perhaps better,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> showing some specific help (either text, or via plymouth or similar).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is something that I've suggested in a bug, but no feedback on that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> idea yet:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4750">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4750</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Bug 4750 - Unable to install Mageia beta 1 with raid ahci   ???
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> are you sure it is this one?
+</I>
+Crap. I have too many tabs!!!
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4769">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4769</A>
+
+Cheers
+
+Col
+
+
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+It has happened 11 times over the last two weeks and I only got one report.
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+&gt;<i> Am 06.03.2012 21:43, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 06.03.2012 16:54, schrieb Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 06.03.2012 17:12, Oliver Burger kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I am currently thinking about dropping kaffeine from the repositories
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for Mga2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The reason is some upstream bug - reported as #1934 in Mageia bugzilla
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and in several other distributions as well without any solution
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> upstream.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So kaffeine is rather instable right now and there seems not to be a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> real active development on it. In addition, there are many good
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> alternatives for kaffeine, e.g. the different mplayer guis or vlc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any opinions on it?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Kaffeine has superior DVB support which works out-of-the-box (i.e.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> without manual command-line tinkering, just scan for channels via the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> GUI), that e.g. MPlayer GUIs or VLC do not have.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've not used kaffeine since a long time, i prefer me-tv, it's just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as easy to use, maybe even easier and i like the embedded EPG
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shown in windowed mode. It's also actively developed.
+</I>&gt;<i> As Anne showed with her link, kaffeine's development is moving on 
+</I>&gt;<i> again. So let't leave it in the repos for now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>I haven't used Kaffeine for a long time, but when I did to me it seemed 
+like a good player. Anyway good it's staying in the repos for now :).
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+    <B>Funda Wang</B> 
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+<PRE>Well, here it is:
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+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120307030202.fwang.valstar.13118/log/kdenetwork4-4.8.1-1.mga2/install_deps-2.0.20120307030203.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120307030202.fwang.valstar.13118/log/kdenetwork4-4.8.1-1.mga2/install_deps-2.0.20120307030203.log</A>
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+2012/3/7 Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Please, if you notice some packages are missing, report it instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> just rebuilding them.
+</I>&gt;<i> It has happened 11 times over the last two weeks and I only got one report.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have just fixed a race condition which should probably fix the
+</I>&gt;<i> problem, but if it happens again (or any other such bug), please
+</I>&gt;<i> report it so that it gets fixed.
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+    <B>John Balcaen</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Revision 220840 Author fwang Date 2012-03-07 03:33:11 +0100 (Wed, 07 Mar
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> new version 4.8.1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified Paths
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron/kde-l10n/current/SOURCES/sha1.lst
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron/kde-l10n/current/SPECS/kde-l10n.spec
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- cauldron/kde-l10n/current/SPECS/kde-l10n.spec	2012-03-07 02:19:44 UTC
+</I>&gt;<i> (rev 220839)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ cauldron/kde-l10n/current/SPECS/kde-l10n.spec	2012-03-07 02:33:11 UTC
+</I>&gt;<i> (rev 220840)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -18,8 +18,8 @@
+</I>&gt;<i>  %{expand:%(for lang in %{langlist}; do echo &quot;%%{expand:%%define build_$lang
+</I>&gt;<i> 1}&quot;; done)}
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>[...]
+Could you also add/enable he (Hebrew), id (Indonesian) &amp; ug (Uyghur) ?
+
+Regards,
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+-- 
+Balcaen John
+Jabber-id: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mikala at jabber.littleboboy.net</A>
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Well, here it is:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120307030202.fwang.valstar.13118/log/kdenetwork4-4.8.1-1.mga2/install_deps-2.0.20120307030203.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120307030202.fwang.valstar.13118/log/kdenetwork4-4.8.1-1.mga2/install_deps-2.0.20120307030203.log</A>
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+Thanks, I uploaded the missing packages.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is there a simple way to check if a game uses alsa-oss modules ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You can tell if an application uses oss by doing:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You don't need to be root in order to do that:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /sbin/fuser -v /dev/dsp
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm... but I think it only shows pid if it's another user... which is
+</I>&gt;<i> why I always suggest sudo - mpd running as mpd user is a common cause of
+</I>&gt;<i> the hogging and thus it's nice to see that rather than a number.
+</I>
+For /dev/snd/*, it always worked the same way for me but Indeed I've nothing
+using the sound card as root, in which case it's hidden.
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+Unless someone comes along and does a reasonable amount of coding before
+mga2, I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx (it can still be
+used in some circumstances, but audio and accelerated graphics will not
+be available).
+
+See this comment (and the link therein) for more info on the issue:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9</A>
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+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> Unless someone comes along and does a reasonable amount of coding before
+</I>&gt;<i> mga2, I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx (it can still be
+</I>&gt;<i> used in some circumstances, but audio and accelerated graphics will not
+</I>&gt;<i> be available).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See this comment (and the link therein) for more info on the issue:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9</A>
+</I>What is the operational translation of 'deprecating support of foo' ? 
+automatic answer &quot;no support&quot; to any user reporting issue with it ? 
+removing it from the distribution ?
+
+While I don't care about the first one, I do care about the second 
+interpretation. Given the very high fragility of the gnome environment 
+nowadays, using old-days tools to workaround those various issues is 
+frequently useful.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Unless someone comes along and does a reasonable amount of coding before
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mga2, I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx (it can still be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> used in some circumstances, but audio and accelerated graphics will not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be available).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See this comment (and the link therein) for more info on the issue:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the operational translation of 'deprecating support of foo' ?
+</I>&gt;<i> automatic answer &quot;no support&quot; to any user reporting issue with it ? removing
+</I>&gt;<i> it from the distribution ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While I don't care about the first one, I do care about the second
+</I>&gt;<i> interpretation. Given the very high fragility of the gnome environment
+</I>&gt;<i> nowadays, using old-days tools to workaround those various issues is
+</I>&gt;<i> frequently useful.
+</I>
+Indeed.
+I don't care about a few missing ACLs that I can workaround.
+startx isn't for beginners anyway...
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+&gt;<i> Le 07/03/2012 10:26, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Unless someone comes along and does a reasonable amount of coding before
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mga2, I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx (it can still be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> used in some circumstances, but audio and accelerated graphics will not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be available).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See this comment (and the link therein) for more info on the issue:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the operational translation of 'deprecating support of foo' ?
+</I>&gt;<i> automatic answer &quot;no support&quot; to any user reporting issue with it ?
+</I>&gt;<i> removing it from the distribution ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While I don't care about the first one, I do care about the second
+</I>&gt;<i> interpretation. Given the very high fragility of the gnome environment
+</I>&gt;<i> nowadays, using old-days tools to workaround those various issues is
+</I>&gt;<i> frequently useful.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well, deprecating something usually means:
+&quot;it's still there, but will be removed somewhen in the future.
+So find something else...&quot;
+Doesn't it?
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+&gt;<i> Le 07/03/2012 10:26, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Unless someone comes along and does a reasonable amount of coding before
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mga2, I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx (it can still be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> used in some circumstances, but audio and accelerated graphics will not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be available).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See this comment (and the link therein) for more info on the issue:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the operational translation of 'deprecating support of foo' ?
+</I>&gt;<i> automatic answer &quot;no support&quot; to any user reporting issue with it ? removing
+</I>&gt;<i> it from the distribution ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While I don't care about the first one, I do care about the second
+</I>&gt;<i> interpretation. Given the very high fragility of the gnome environment
+</I>&gt;<i> nowadays, using old-days tools to workaround those various issues is
+</I>&gt;<i> frequently useful.
+</I>
+Different from Guillaume I do care about the impact for the user.
+There are many out there who are used to startx and also docs and
+howtos which use it. Therefore we will need an explanation for
+switching off startx.  An explanation to be used in forums, which is a
+bit more than just a link to a bug report. In other words: to be
+understood by non-techie users.
+
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unless someone comes along and does a reasonable amount of coding before
+</I>&gt;<i> mga2, I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx (it can still be
+</I>&gt;<i> used in some circumstances, but audio and accelerated graphics will not
+</I>&gt;<i> be available).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See this comment (and the link therein) for more info on the issue:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9</A>
+</I>
+
+Hi there,
+as many, I don't understand (yet, it not ever) systemd :)
+But what do you mean?
+
+An user could no longer starts in runlevel 3 and start an X session 
+directly ? This is the way we actually debug X, that sounds very 
+unreasonable to me.
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+Cheers,
+Chris.
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+    <B>Claire REVILLET</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 07/03/2012 11:21, obgr_seneca a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Name        : task-obsolete                Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version     : 2                                 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release     : 9.mga2                        Build Date: Wed Mar  7 11:16:10 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed)               Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group       : System/Base                   Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size        : 3392                             License: GPLv2+
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature   : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager    : obgr_seneca&lt;obgr_seneca&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary     : Meta package obsoleting old packages
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> This package is used to obsolete packages that are no longer supported.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> obgr_seneca&lt;obgr_seneca&gt;  2-9.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 220919
+</I>&gt;<i> - obsolte latex-beamer since the functionality is part of texlive
+</I>What about the documentation and all examples ? they were only in 
+latex-beamer package.
+Maybe changing late-beamer into latex-beamer-doc will be better than 
+obsoletting it.
+wdyt ?
+
+Claire
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+&gt;<i> Name &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: task-obsolete &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version &#160; &#160; : 2 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release &#160; &#160; : 9.mga2 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Build Date: Wed Mar &#160;7 11:16:10 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group &#160; &#160; &#160; : System/Base &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: 3392 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; License: GPLv2+
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature &#160; : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager &#160; &#160;: obgr_seneca &lt;obgr_seneca&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary &#160; &#160; : Meta package obsoleting old packages
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> This package is used to obsolete packages that are no longer supported.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> obgr_seneca &lt;obgr_seneca&gt; 2-9.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 220919
+</I>&gt;<i> - obsolte latex-beamer since the functionality is part of texlive
+</I>
+Then it should be obsoleted by texlive.
+task-obsolete is for old packages not replaced by anything.
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+<PRE>Claire REVILLET skrev 7.3.2012 12:27:
+&gt;<i> Le 07/03/2012 11:21, obgr_seneca a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Name        : task-obsolete                Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Version     : 2                                 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Release     : 9.mga2                        Build Date: Wed Mar  7 11:16:10 2012
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed)               Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Group       : System/Base                   Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Size        : 3392                             License: GPLv2+
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Signature   : (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Packager    : obgr_seneca&lt;obgr_seneca&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Summary     : Meta package obsoleting old packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This package is used to obsolete packages that are no longer supported.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> obgr_seneca&lt;obgr_seneca&gt;   2-9.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 220919
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - obsolte latex-beamer since the functionality is part of texlive
+</I>&gt;<i> What about the documentation and all examples ? they were only in
+</I>&gt;<i> latex-beamer package.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe changing late-beamer into latex-beamer-doc will be better than
+</I>&gt;<i> obsoletting it.
+</I>&gt;<i> wdyt ?
+</I>
+Not to mention.. if texlive has the functionality of -beamer, that 
+package should obsolete this, not task-obsolete
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+--
+Thomas
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+<PRE>Am 07.03.2012 11:59, schrieb Thomas Backlund:
+&gt;<i> Claire REVILLET skrev 7.3.2012 12:27:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 07/03/2012 11:21, obgr_seneca a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Name : task-obsolete Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Version : 2 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Release : 9.mga2 Build Date: Wed Mar 7 11:16:10 2012
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Group : System/Base Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Size : 3392 License: GPLv2+
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Packager : obgr_seneca&lt;obgr_seneca&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Summary : Meta package obsoleting old packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This package is used to obsolete packages that are no longer supported.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> obgr_seneca&lt;obgr_seneca&gt; 2-9.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 220919
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - obsolte latex-beamer since the functionality is part of texlive
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What about the documentation and all examples ? they were only in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> latex-beamer package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe changing late-beamer into latex-beamer-doc will be better than
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> obsoletting it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wdyt ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not to mention.. if texlive has the functionality of -beamer, that
+</I>&gt;<i> package should obsolete this, not task-obsolete
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>Yes, you are right. Sorry.
+I will work on a latex-beamer-doc package then.
+
+Oliver
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> [This is in an unofficial branch of UAE (the Ubiquitous Amiga Emulator)
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and EatDirt at 07/03/12 10:18 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 07/03/12 10:26, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Unless someone comes along and does a reasonable amount of coding before
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mga2, I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx (it can still be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> used in some circumstances, but audio and accelerated graphics will not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be available).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See this comment (and the link therein) for more info on the issue:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i> as many, I don't understand (yet, it not ever) systemd :)
+</I>&gt;<i> But what do you mean?
+</I>
+systemd tracks and manages user sessions. i.e. it takes over the role of
+console-kit which had many design flaws and generally makes a good job
+of managing sessions properly without any nasty hacks or work arounds.
+
+&gt;<i> An user could no longer starts in runlevel 3 and start an X session
+</I>&gt;<i> directly ? This is the way we actually debug X, that sounds very
+</I>&gt;<i> unreasonable to me.
+</I>
+Users can still technically run startx, but the user session will not be
+seen as active and thus all sorts of things break with regards to
+setting ACLs on device nodes - e.g. on /dev/snd/* /dev/dri/* etc. Other
+things relating to session management will also likely break.
+
+You can still debug X but only for an actual X server.
+
+Anyway even when I was maintaining X a few years back, I don't think I
+ever started it from the text console. I always used the official
+methods for starting X (service dm restart in those days). So not sure
+it's really all that needed for debugging.
+
+
+Col
+
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/7 Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 07/03/2012 10:26, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Unless someone comes along and does a reasonable amount of coding before
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mga2, I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx (it can still be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> used in some circumstances, but audio and accelerated graphics will not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be available).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> See this comment (and the link therein) for more info on the issue:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What is the operational translation of 'deprecating support of foo' ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> automatic answer &quot;no support&quot; to any user reporting issue with it ? removing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it from the distribution ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> While I don't care about the first one, I do care about the second
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> interpretation. Given the very high fragility of the gnome environment
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> nowadays, using old-days tools to workaround those various issues is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> frequently useful.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Different from Guillaume I do care about the impact for the user.
+</I>&gt;<i> There are many out there who are used to startx and also docs and
+</I>&gt;<i> howtos which use it. Therefore we will need an explanation for
+</I>&gt;<i> switching off startx.  An explanation to be used in forums, which is a
+</I>&gt;<i> bit more than just a link to a bug report. In other words: to be
+</I>&gt;<i> understood by non-techie users.
+</I>
+To answer Guillaume's question, I wasn't personally planning on removing
+it fully. Just documenting that it is broken and that users should not
+use this as a mechanism for starting X.
+
+I would propose just putting in &quot;echo 'startx is deprecated. Here is
+why.....   Press any key to continue anyway.' &gt;&amp;2; read -n 1&quot; in the
+startx script such that users using it will be warned. Does this seem
+sensible?
+
+Col
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
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+    <B>EatDirt</B> 
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+<PRE>On 07/03/12 12:12, Colin Guthrie wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> You can still debug X but only for an actual X server.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway even when I was maintaining X a few years back, I don't think I
+</I>&gt;<i> ever started it from the text console. I always used the official
+</I>&gt;<i> methods for starting X (service dm restart in those days). So not sure
+</I>&gt;<i> it's really all that needed for debugging.
+</I>
+Thanks for the explanations. If this is a matter of ACL only, I would 
+let startx existing even of sound or acceleration is not working.
+
+I also remember mandriva times for which the dm was not working. Or 
+simple than that, when hald was switched off and autoadddevice=false, 
+startx was usefull to open a X session.
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+Cheers,
+Chris.
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/7 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 07/03/12 10:13 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Different from Guillaume I do care about the impact for the user.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There are many out there who are used to startx and also docs and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> howtos which use it. Therefore we will need an explanation for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> switching off startx. &#160;An explanation to be used in forums, which is a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bit more than just a link to a bug report. In other words: to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> understood by non-techie users.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To answer Guillaume's question, I wasn't personally planning on removing
+</I>&gt;<i> it fully. Just documenting that it is broken and that users should not
+</I>&gt;<i> use this as a mechanism for starting X.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would propose just putting in &quot;echo 'startx is deprecated. Here is
+</I>&gt;<i> why..... &#160; Press any key to continue anyway.' &gt;&amp;2; read -n 1&quot; in the
+</I>&gt;<i> startx script such that users using it will be warned. Does this seem
+</I>&gt;<i> sensible?
+</I>
+It is sensible and enough for the situation at hand (when the user
+actually punches in &quot;startx&quot; and the command does not work as
+expected). In principle on the same level of information like &quot;file
+not found&quot;. That's all which is needed from the technical side.
+
+People more close to the users will have to think of an explanation
+without tech-talk, understandable for the user who comes to the forum
+complaining that the command he had been using for many years (or
+which is written in a documentation) does not work.
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+wobo
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+<PRE>Le 07/03/2012 12:03, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Am 07.03.2012 11:59, schrieb Thomas Backlund:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Claire REVILLET skrev 7.3.2012 12:27:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 07/03/2012 11:21, obgr_seneca a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Name : task-obsolete Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Version : 2 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Release : 9.mga2 Build Date: Wed Mar 7 11:16:10 2012
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Group : System/Base Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Size : 3392 License: GPLv2+
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Packager : obgr_seneca&lt;obgr_seneca&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Summary : Meta package obsoleting old packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This package is used to obsolete packages that are no longer supported.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> obgr_seneca&lt;obgr_seneca&gt; 2-9.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 220919
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - obsolte latex-beamer since the functionality is part of texlive
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What about the documentation and all examples ? they were only in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> latex-beamer package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe changing late-beamer into latex-beamer-doc will be better than
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> obsoletting it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wdyt ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Not to mention.. if texlive has the functionality of -beamer, that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> package should obsolete this, not task-obsolete
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, you are right. Sorry.
+</I>&gt;<i> I will work on a latex-beamer-doc package then.
+</I>Please, don't make texlive package even bigger than its current size ( 
+64891300) by including everything inside. Beamer is distributed 
+separatly, please keep it separated. It makes tracking its version and 
+updating it easier for everybody.
+
+-- 
+If all the cars are coming your way -- you're probably going the wrong 
+way on a one-way street
+		-- Murphy's Driving Laws n&#176;9
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+Last run before version freeze! Topics for tonight:
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+- Organize freeze with other teams
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+- Mentoring progress
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+Version freeze will be activated at the end of this meeting
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+<PRE>Am 07.03.2012 13:05, schrieb Guillaume Rousse:
+&gt;<i> Le 07/03/2012 12:03, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 07.03.2012 11:59, schrieb Thomas Backlund:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Claire REVILLET skrev 7.3.2012 12:27:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 07/03/2012 11:21, obgr_seneca a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Name : task-obsolete Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Version : 2 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Release : 9.mga2 Build Date: Wed Mar 7 11:16:10 2012
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Group : System/Base Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Size : 3392 License: GPLv2+
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Signature : (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Packager : obgr_seneca&lt;obgr_seneca&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Summary : Meta package obsoleting old packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This package is used to obsolete packages that are no longer
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> supported.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> obgr_seneca&lt;obgr_seneca&gt; 2-9.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 220919
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - obsolte latex-beamer since the functionality is part of texlive
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What about the documentation and all examples ? they were only in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> latex-beamer package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe changing late-beamer into latex-beamer-doc will be better than
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> obsoletting it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wdyt ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Not to mention.. if texlive has the functionality of -beamer, that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> package should obsolete this, not task-obsolete
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, you are right. Sorry.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I will work on a latex-beamer-doc package then.
+</I>&gt;<i> Please, don't make texlive package even bigger than its current size (
+</I>&gt;<i> 64891300) by including everything inside. Beamer is distributed
+</I>&gt;<i> separatly, please keep it separated. It makes tracking its version and
+</I>&gt;<i> updating it easier for everybody.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>The functionality of beamer is already included in texlive. Indeed last 
+time I tried - though I had no time to investigate - when beamer was 
+installed, tex files would not compile.
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+Oliver
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 07/03/12 12:02 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/7 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 07/03/12 10:13 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Different from Guillaume I do care about the impact for the user.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There are many out there who are used to startx and also docs and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> howtos which use it. Therefore we will need an explanation for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> switching off startx.  An explanation to be used in forums, which is a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bit more than just a link to a bug report. In other words: to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> understood by non-techie users.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To answer Guillaume's question, I wasn't personally planning on removing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it fully. Just documenting that it is broken and that users should not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> use this as a mechanism for starting X.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would propose just putting in &quot;echo 'startx is deprecated. Here is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> why.....   Press any key to continue anyway.' &gt;&amp;2; read -n 1&quot; in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> startx script such that users using it will be warned. Does this seem
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sensible?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It is sensible and enough for the situation at hand (when the user
+</I>&gt;<i> actually punches in &quot;startx&quot; and the command does not work as
+</I>&gt;<i> expected). In principle on the same level of information like &quot;file
+</I>&gt;<i> not found&quot;. That's all which is needed from the technical side.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> People more close to the users will have to think of an explanation
+</I>&gt;<i> without tech-talk, understandable for the user who comes to the forum
+</I>&gt;<i> complaining that the command he had been using for many years (or
+</I>&gt;<i> which is written in a documentation) does not work.
+</I>
+For the avoidance of doubt, I would expect that hitting return would
+still end up starting X, just that the afore mentioned (and dutifully
+explained to the user) problems with ACLs etc. will be present.
+
+I'll be able to write some text here that is concise, so I'll do this
+shortly.
+
+Col
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 07/03/12 12:02 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/7 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 07/03/12 10:13 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Different from Guillaume I do care about the impact for the user.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There are many out there who are used to startx and also docs and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> howtos which use it. Therefore we will need an explanation for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> switching off startx. &#160;An explanation to be used in forums, which is a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bit more than just a link to a bug report. In other words: to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> understood by non-techie users.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To answer Guillaume's question, I wasn't personally planning on removing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it fully. Just documenting that it is broken and that users should not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> use this as a mechanism for starting X.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I would propose just putting in &quot;echo 'startx is deprecated. Here is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> why..... &#160; Press any key to continue anyway.' &gt;&amp;2; read -n 1&quot; in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> startx script such that users using it will be warned. Does this seem
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sensible?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is sensible and enough for the situation at hand (when the user
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> actually punches in &quot;startx&quot; and the command does not work as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> expected). In principle on the same level of information like &quot;file
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not found&quot;. That's all which is needed from the technical side.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> People more close to the users will have to think of an explanation
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> without tech-talk, understandable for the user who comes to the forum
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> complaining that the command he had been using for many years (or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> which is written in a documentation) does not work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the avoidance of doubt, I would expect that hitting return would
+</I>&gt;<i> still end up starting X, just that the afore mentioned (and dutifully
+</I>&gt;<i> explained to the user) problems with ACLs etc. will be present.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll be able to write some text here that is concise, so I'll do this
+</I>&gt;<i> shortly.
+</I>
+Great!
+
+Now I'll have to teach this waltzing greybeard in the mirror some new
+moves .... :)
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+    <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> 
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+&gt;<i> I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx
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+What should we use instead?
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+&gt;<i> On 7 March 2012 11:15, obgr_seneca&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [This is in an unofficial branch of UAE (the Ubiquitous Amiga Emulator)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with the aim of bringing the features of WinUAE to non-Windows platforms
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> such as Linux, Mac OS X and BeOS.]
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+</I>&gt;<i> I think this has nothing to do in %description
+</I>&gt;<i> It's pretty obvious a Mageia RPM is targetting non Windows...
+</I>It's an information, that this branch of uae is bringing features from 
+WinUAE to non windows platforms.
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+It's not saying, that this package is for non windows platforms, which 
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+On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:15:29 +0000
+Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 07/03/12 10:13 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2012/3/7 Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Le 07/03/2012 10:26, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Unless someone comes along and does a reasonable amount of coding before
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; mga2, I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx (it can still be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; used in some circumstances, but audio and accelerated graphics will not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; be available).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; See this comment (and the link therein) for more info on the issue:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; What is the operational translation of 'deprecating support of foo' ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; automatic answer &quot;no support&quot; to any user reporting issue with it ? removing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; it from the distribution ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; While I don't care about the first one, I do care about the second
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; interpretation. Given the very high fragility of the gnome environment
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; nowadays, using old-days tools to workaround those various issues is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; frequently useful.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Different from Guillaume I do care about the impact for the user.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There are many out there who are used to startx and also docs and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; howtos which use it. Therefore we will need an explanation for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; switching off startx.  An explanation to be used in forums, which is a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bit more than just a link to a bug report. In other words: to be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; understood by non-techie users.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> To answer Guillaume's question, I wasn't personally planning on removing
+</I>&gt;<i> it fully. Just documenting that it is broken and that users should not
+</I>&gt;<i> use this as a mechanism for starting X.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I would propose just putting in &quot;echo 'startx is deprecated. Here is
+</I>&gt;<i> why.....   Press any key to continue anyway.' &gt;&amp;2; read -n 1&quot; in the
+</I>&gt;<i> startx script such that users using it will be warned. Does this seem
+</I>&gt;<i> sensible?
+</I>
+Having to press this every time will drive me nuts. If you are going to do it,
+please also use an optional environment variable to trigger it off.
+
+In any case, as an active user of startx, I do not appreciate the fact that
+it will get deprecated. I don't like to start X automatically on startup
+because that causes problem if there is problem with the X environment in
+general, or with the graphics' driver etc. I tried starting up kdm from the
+command line but could only start it as root, and it returned to the login
+screen after I exited X (which is expected, but undesirable), and could only
+be killed by root.
+
+Luckily for me (and for Mageia) I am a programmer and can write the required
+code to make startx play nice with the rest of systemd again. I'll read the URL
+of the bug and see what is needed and hopefully with some guidance from the
+people on Freenode, will make it work. If anyone wants to help, I'm &quot;rindolf&quot;
+there and I'm also reachable by other forms of IM and by other means:
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+Regards,
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+	Shlomi Fish (who is frustrated at the amount of problems the transition
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Shlomi Fish at 07/03/12 14:09 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hello Colin,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 11:15:29 +0000
+</I>&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 07/03/12 10:13 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/7 Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 07/03/2012 10:26, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Unless someone comes along and does a reasonable amount of coding before
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mga2, I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx (it can still be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> used in some circumstances, but audio and accelerated graphics will not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be available).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> See this comment (and the link therein) for more info on the issue:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What is the operational translation of 'deprecating support of foo' ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> automatic answer &quot;no support&quot; to any user reporting issue with it ? removing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it from the distribution ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> While I don't care about the first one, I do care about the second
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> interpretation. Given the very high fragility of the gnome environment
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> nowadays, using old-days tools to workaround those various issues is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> frequently useful.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Different from Guillaume I do care about the impact for the user.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There are many out there who are used to startx and also docs and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> howtos which use it. Therefore we will need an explanation for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> switching off startx.  An explanation to be used in forums, which is a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bit more than just a link to a bug report. In other words: to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> understood by non-techie users.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To answer Guillaume's question, I wasn't personally planning on removing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it fully. Just documenting that it is broken and that users should not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> use this as a mechanism for starting X.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would propose just putting in &quot;echo 'startx is deprecated. Here is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> why.....   Press any key to continue anyway.' &gt;&amp;2; read -n 1&quot; in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> startx script such that users using it will be warned. Does this seem
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sensible?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Having to press this every time will drive me nuts. If you are going to do it,
+</I>&gt;<i> please also use an optional environment variable to trigger it off.
+</I>
+Env var or a switch to pass to it (and you could then put alias
+startx='startx --no-session-warning' or similar in your bashrc? Thinking
+about this, it might make more sense to warn the user AFTER they have
+logged in... e.g. via zenity or knotify or similar. But again with the
+option to hide it still)
+
+&gt;<i> Luckily for me (and for Mageia) I am a programmer and can write the required
+</I>&gt;<i> code to make startx play nice with the rest of systemd again. I'll read the URL
+</I>&gt;<i> of the bug and see what is needed and hopefully with some guidance from the
+</I>&gt;<i> people on Freenode, will make it work. If anyone wants to help, I'm &quot;rindolf&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> there and I'm also reachable by other forms of IM and by other means:
+</I>
+It would be nice if you wanted to take on this project. Basically you'd
+be writing a DM (like gdm) which is able to talk to PAM and do all those
+things needed for proper session management. Of course your DM would be
+very much cut down - i.e. it would not actually have any UI, but just
+implement and autologin system.
+
+I'd imagine how it would work is that your program would be installed as
+setuid, thus regular users can run it, it can find the username who run
+it and store that, then call the necessary commands to gain root
+privileges, do the whole pam conversation and then login the user. This
+will require a specific PAM config (e.g. /etc/pam.d/startx) to allow
+passwordless authentication for your user.
+
+This is just a very rough overview of what would be needed.
+
+Good luck :)
+
+Col
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+-- 
+
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+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+kharec updated our libtorrent to 0.13.0 two weeks ago. Wally updated
+rtorrent shortly after that as they are released in pairs.
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+However, 0.13.0 (and rtorrent 0.9.0) are the unstable versions, as per
+<A HREF="http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/">http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/</A>
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+I'm in favor of reverting back to the stable versions for mga2, but I'm
+not insisting in it if other people disagree. Or is there are a specific
+reason to have the unstable ones?
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+Stormi is the rtorrent pkg maintainer.
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unless someone comes along and does a reasonable amount of coding before
+</I>&gt;<i> mga2, I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx (it can still be
+</I>&gt;<i> used in some circumstances, but audio and accelerated graphics will not
+</I>&gt;<i> be available).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Now I know where the same problem with autologin comes from ;-)
+
+I suppose using sysvinit allows to still use startx and autologin, so I 
+will work at least without systemd.
+Maybe we could only add this information to the Errata, along with an 
+howto use sysvinit?
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+If I followed things well, upgrades from MGA1 will continue using 
+sysvinit, so people won't get this regression on upgrades?
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+&gt;<i> Name &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: lxdm &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version &#160; &#160; : 0.4.1 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release &#160; &#160; : 8.mga2 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Build Date: Wed Mar &#160;7 16:09:29 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group &#160; &#160; &#160; : Graphical desktop/Other &#160; &#160; &#160; Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: 304301 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; License: GPLv2+
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature &#160; : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager &#160; &#160;: wally &lt;wally&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; : <A HREF="http://www.lxde.org">http://www.lxde.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary &#160; &#160; : GUI login manager for LXDE
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> A lightweight dropped-in replacement for GDM or KDM.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> wally &lt;wally&gt; 0.4.1-8.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 221103
+</I>&gt;<i> - add patch to source /etc/profile and/or ~/.profile instead of xprofile
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;ones when starting session to get more working /usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/games:/usr/lib/qt4/bin:/home/wally/.bin:/sbin:/usr/sbin for desktop environment
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+SVN commit msg is already propedited, so the %changelog should be OK
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> As per <A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657385">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=657385</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> gtk_menu_popup_for_device() has been renamed to gtk_menu_popup() in
+</I>&gt;<i> introspection, causing at least Menu.popup() in python-gi to break.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Ubuntu has reverted it:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/923171">https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk+3.0/+bug/923171</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Attached are alternative one-liner patches to either revert the API
+</I>&gt;<i> break in Gtk+3.0 (dont_rename_annotation.patch, from Ubuntu), or to
+</I>&gt;<i> adapt python-gobject3 to the API change
+</I>&gt;<i> (python-gi-adapt-for-gnome657385.patch, written by me).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Since gtk+3.0 is unmaintained, I'm posting here to ask which way to go.
+</I>
+For now I've patched python-gobject3. More GTK+3-knowledged people can
+feel free to revert it and use the other solution if they so wish...
+
+&gt;<i> This affects e.g. gcdemu, right-clicking the traybar icon causes this error:
+</I>&gt;<i> Traceback (most recent call last):
+</I>&gt;<i>   File &quot;/usr/bin/gcdemu&quot;, line 688, in on_popup_menu
+</I>&gt;<i>     self.menu.popup(None, None, status_icon.position_menu, self, button,
+</I>&gt;<i> activate_time)
+</I>&gt;<i>   File &quot;/usr/lib64/python2.7/site-packages/gi/overrides/Gtk.py&quot;, line
+</I>&gt;<i> 1381, in popup
+</I>&gt;<i>     self.popup_for_device(None, parent_menu_shell, parent_menu_item,
+</I>&gt;<i> func, data, button, activate_time)
+</I>&gt;<i> AttributeError: 'Menu' object has no attribute 'popup_for_device'
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> kharec updated our libtorrent to 0.13.0 two weeks ago. Wally updated
+</I>&gt;<i> rtorrent shortly after that as they are released in pairs.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> However, 0.13.0 (and rtorrent 0.9.0) are the unstable versions, as per
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/">http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Stable ones are 0.12.9/0.8.9.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm in favor of reverting back to the stable versions for mga2, but I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> not insisting in it if other people disagree. Or is there are a specific
+</I>&gt;<i> reason to have the unstable ones?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And what do other people think?
+</I>
+I also think we should revert to stable version. Unless there is a good
+reason to have the unstable one.
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/7 Z&#233;zinho &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lists.jjorge at free.fr</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Em 07-03-2012 10:26, Colin Guthrie escreveu:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Unless someone comes along and does a reasonable amount of coding before
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mga2, I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx (it can still be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> used in some circumstances, but audio and accelerated graphics will not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be available).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now I know where the same problem with autologin comes from ;-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I suppose using sysvinit allows to still use startx and autologin, so I will
+</I>&gt;<i> work at least without systemd.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe we could only add this information to the Errata, along with an howto
+</I>&gt;<i> use sysvinit?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If I followed things well, upgrades from MGA1 will continue using sysvinit,
+</I>&gt;<i> so people won't get this regression on upgrades?
+</I>
+Would it not be counterproductive, having 2 very different types of
+systems with lots of different possible causes for problems?
+
+-- 
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">4F577E5E.5080002 at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>kharec updated our libtorrent to 0.13.0 two weeks ago. Wally updated
+</I>&gt;<i>rtorrent shortly after that as they are released in pairs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>However, 0.13.0 (and rtorrent 0.9.0) are the unstable versions, as per
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/">http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Stable ones are 0.12.9/0.8.9.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>I'm in favor of reverting back to the stable versions for mga2, but I'm
+</I>&gt;<i>not insisting in it if other people disagree. Or is there are a specific
+</I>&gt;<i>reason to have the unstable ones?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>And what do other people think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Stormi is the rtorrent pkg maintainer.
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+Stormi grabbed maintainership of this package at my request (as I'm his 
+padawan). I'm also in favour of reverting to the previous stable version 
+unless kharec or wally had strong movating reasons for making this change, 
+but I didn't see it in their commit messages, nor do I see anything 
+pressing on the rtorrent site after a quick glance.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Please, don't make texlive package even bigger than its current size (
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 64891300) by including everything inside. Beamer is distributed
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+</I>&gt;<i> The functionality of beamer is already included in texlive. Indeed last
+</I>&gt;<i> time I tried - though I had no time to investigate - when beamer was
+</I>&gt;<i> installed, tex files would not compile.
+</I>just because 'it is already done this way' doesn't mean it is right.
+
+What's wrong with having beamer in a distinct package ?
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+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 07 March 2012 10:26, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> What should we use instead?
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+A graphical login agent - i.e gdm, kdm, lxdm etc.
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+&gt;<i> Le 07/03/2012 14:13, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please, don't make texlive package even bigger than its current size (
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 64891300) by including everything inside. Beamer is distributed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> separatly, please keep it separated. It makes tracking its version and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> updating it easier for everybody.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The functionality of beamer is already included in texlive. Indeed last
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> time I tried - though I had no time to investigate - when beamer was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installed, tex files would not compile.
+</I>&gt;<i> just because 'it is already done this way' doesn't mean it is right.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What's wrong with having beamer in a distinct package ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Fact is:
+- it is included in texlive-texmf and
+- the latex-beamer package does not workj with our texlive package.
+
+You can of course try to fix it, if you like.
+I would be happy if we could divide that monster texlive-texmf package 
+into several smaller ones, but...
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+It's not, that I want to have beamer inside texlive-texmf, but it 
+already is!
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Z&#233;zinho at 07/03/12 15:32 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Em 07-03-2012 10:26, Colin Guthrie escreveu:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Unless someone comes along and does a reasonable amount of coding before
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mga2, I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx (it can still be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> used in some circumstances, but audio and accelerated graphics will not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be available).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now I know where the same problem with autologin comes from ;-)
+</I>
+Kinda, but really the autologin package should do the whole pam
+conversation stuff itself, so it *should* be possible to make that work.
+
+&gt;<i> I suppose using sysvinit allows to still use startx and autologin, so I
+</I>&gt;<i> will work at least without systemd.
+</I>
+For the time being, we will still support sysvinit and console-kit.
+Using console-kit will still work (although various caveats are still
+present in the way that console-kit &quot;tracks&quot; sessions (clue: It really
+doesn't do any tracking at all!).
+
+&gt;<i> Maybe we could only add this information to the Errata, along with an
+</I>&gt;<i> howto use sysvinit?
+</I>
+I'd rather not. We want people to use systemd by default and while
+sysvinit will still limp on in mga2 it's definitely going to be a second
+class citizen.
+
+&gt;<i> If I followed things well, upgrades from MGA1 will continue using
+</I>&gt;<i> sysvinit, so people won't get this regression on upgrades?
+</I>
+No, they will get systemd. We just need to resolve an issue with the
+upgrade to make this happen properly (could be a urpmi bug or something
+similar).
+
+Col
+
+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
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+<PRE>2012/3/7 Remco Rijnders &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">remco at webconquest.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 05:27:26PM +0200, Anssi wrote in
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">4F577E5E.5080002 at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kharec updated our libtorrent to 0.13.0 two weeks ago. Wally updated
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rtorrent shortly after that as they are released in pairs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> However, 0.13.0 (and rtorrent 0.9.0) are the unstable versions, as per
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/">http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Stable ones are 0.12.9/0.8.9.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm in favor of reverting back to the stable versions for mga2, but I'm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not insisting in it if other people disagree. Or is there are a specific
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reason to have the unstable ones?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And what do other people think?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Stormi is the rtorrent pkg maintainer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Stormi grabbed maintainership of this package at my request (as I'm his
+</I>&gt;<i> padawan). I'm also in favour of reverting to the previous stable version
+</I>&gt;<i> unless kharec or wally had strong movating reasons for making this change,
+</I>&gt;<i> but I didn't see it in their commit messages, nor do I see anything pressing
+</I>&gt;<i> on the rtorrent site after a quick glance.
+</I>
+I'm not against reverting to stable version. I only updated rtorrent
+as libtorrent was updated earlier.
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+I did notice that new version is unstable version, but didn't think
+more about it as I've been using unstable version (without any
+problems) much longer than it's been available on our repo.
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Johnny A. Solbu at 07/03/12 13:53 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wednesday 07 March 2012 10:26, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What should we use instead?
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+</I>&gt;<i> A graphical login agent - i.e gdm, kdm, lxdm etc.
+</I>
+Nice try! What do I use on a minimal netbook installation where all I
+have in X is an Xterm and a few applications (using mc in the xterm as
+&quot;menue&quot; and application starter? Until today I'm using startx if I
+want to start X on this machine (most of the time I do not use X
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+This is one of the new moves I have to learn (not mentioning the tty chaos).
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+&gt;<i> You can of course try to fix it, if you like.
+</I>&gt;<i> I would be happy if we could divide that monster texlive-texmf package
+</I>&gt;<i> into several smaller ones, but...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's not, that I want to have beamer inside texlive-texmf, but it
+</I>&gt;<i> already is!
+</I>It's a bit difficult to fix a package that just vanished :) Ok, I'll 
+take care of it.
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le 07/03/2012 17:20, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You can of course try to fix it, if you like.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would be happy if we could divide that monster texlive-texmf package
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> into several smaller ones, but...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's not, that I want to have beamer inside texlive-texmf, but it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> already is!
+</I>&gt;<i> It's a bit difficult to fix a package that just vanished :) Ok, I'll
+</I>&gt;<i> take care of it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I think the fix will have to be in texlive-texmf to patch the beamer 
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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+</I>&gt;<i> No, they will get systemd. We just need to resolve an issue with the
+</I>&gt;<i> upgrade to make this happen properly (could be a urpmi bug or something
+</I>&gt;<i> similar).
+</I>
+I have now renamed sysvinit to sysvinit-legacy
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+And both sysvinit-legacy and systemd-sysvinit provides sysvinit.
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+And we have systemd-sysvinit in prefer.vendor.list so upgrades will now
+choose systemd by default
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+Thomas
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 7 mars 2012 17:10:32, Remco Rijnders a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 05:27:26PM +0200, Anssi wrote in
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">4F577E5E.5080002 at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;kharec updated our libtorrent to 0.13.0 two weeks ago. Wally updated
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;rtorrent shortly after that as they are released in pairs.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;However, 0.13.0 (and rtorrent 0.9.0) are the unstable versions, as per
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;<A HREF="http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/">http://libtorrent.rakshasa.no/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Stable ones are 0.12.9/0.8.9.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;I'm in favor of reverting back to the stable versions for mga2, but I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;not insisting in it if other people disagree. Or is there are a specific
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;reason to have the unstable ones?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;And what do other people think?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Stormi is the rtorrent pkg maintainer.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Stormi grabbed maintainership of this package at my request (as I'm his
+</I>&gt;<i> padawan). I'm also in favour of reverting to the previous stable version
+</I>&gt;<i> unless kharec or wally had strong movating reasons for making this
+</I>&gt;<i> change, but I didn't see it in their commit messages, nor do I see
+</I>&gt;<i> anything pressing on the rtorrent site after a quick glance.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Remmy
+</I>
+Should we increase the epoch to keep ugrade path from beta, or drop and 
+replace the package ?
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+    <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> 
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+&gt;<i> &gt; What should we use instead?
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+</I>&gt;<i> A graphical login agent - i.e gdm, kdm, lxdm etc.
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+In other words, we should no longer use runlevel 3 as default?
+There are multiuser systems where running a graphical login agent is undesireable, for whatever reason.
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+<PRE>07.03.2012 21:32, Johnny A. Solbu skrev:
+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 07 March 2012 17:16, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What should we use instead?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A graphical login agent - i.e gdm, kdm, lxdm etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> In other words, we should no longer use runlevel 3 as default?
+</I>&gt;<i> There are multiuser systems where running a graphical login agent is undesireable, for whatever reason.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+No. we need runlevel 3 to work too.
+
+It's insane to expect to have to run any graphical stuff on servers /
+routers / ...
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+But for most desktop users graphical login is wanted...
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+</I>&gt;<i> Should we increase the epoch to keep ugrade path from beta, or drop and 
+</I>&gt;<i> replace the package ?
+</I>
+epoch should be used only to fix updates on stable releases. For
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">20120307194549.GC21938 at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>On Wed, 07 Mar 2012, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Should we increase the epoch to keep ugrade path from beta, or drop and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> replace the package ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>epoch should be used only to fix updates on stable releases. For
+</I>&gt;<i>cauldron, users should be asked to remove and reinstall the package.
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+Out of interest and as learning experience... won't the buildsystem have a 
+fit over being given an older version to build than it has in its 
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+not working in cauldron for months, and also considering it's beyond our perl 
+guru jq and our drakx-guru tv, and considering it looks like google didn't 
+help... and considering there's 4 or 5 text-installer bugs i wanted to test 
+out...
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+perhaps we should consider in fact that text installer does not work...
+after all, if we get this fixed, there's still the other text-installer bugs...
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+maybe it's premature for me, but considering this is version freeze... we're 
+getting closer to the end...
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+How can we (the bugsquad or other people) determinate what can be a
+release_blocker bug ?
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+in the triage guide we can see:
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+&quot;The release_blocker priority is only relevant to bugs filed on Cauldron
+or beta releases, and should only be used for issues which are
+sufficiently critical that it would severely impair the overall quality
+of a release if it were made available without the issue being
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+That is not clear for me. And the only mail relating to that, was from
+Anne in May and not useful for me.
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+So what about for release blockers:
+An default installed soft not working out of the box ?
+Any soft that cannot be launched ?
+Issue that a lot people can have ?
+something other ?
+
+Comments is welcome, thanks
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+BTW: The current one are:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?priority=release_blocker&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=REOPENED">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?priority=release_blocker&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=REOPENED</A>
+And related to trackers (also set to release blocker)
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=1994&amp;hide_resolved=1">https://bugs.mageia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=1994&amp;hide_resolved=1</A>
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 08:45:49PM +0100, nicolas wrote in
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+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">20120307194549.GC21938 at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;On Wed, 07 Mar 2012, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Should we increase the epoch to keep ugrade path from beta, or drop and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; replace the package ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;epoch should be used only to fix updates on stable releases. For
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;cauldron, users should be asked to remove and reinstall the package.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Out of interest and as learning experience... won't the buildsystem have a
+</I>&gt;<i> fit over being given an older version to build than it has in its
+</I>&gt;<i> repositories already?
+</I>
+There must be a sysadmin intervention to remove the old packages before 
+submitting the new ones.
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+libtorrent and rtorrent are ready in SVN to submit. Can someone remove the old 
+packages and submit the new ones? If someone wants to double-check the changes 
+to check we did no mistake, please do too.
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+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 7 mars 2012 20:48:26, Remco Rijnders a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 08:45:49PM +0100, nicolas wrote in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">20120307194549.GC21938 at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 07 Mar 2012, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Should we increase the epoch to keep ugrade path from beta, or drop and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> replace the package ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> epoch should be used only to fix updates on stable releases. For
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cauldron, users should be asked to remove and reinstall the package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Out of interest and as learning experience... won't the buildsystem have a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fit over being given an older version to build than it has in its
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> repositories already?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> There must be a sysadmin intervention to remove the old packages before 
+</I>&gt;<i> submitting the new ones.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> libtorrent and rtorrent are ready in SVN to submit. Can someone remove the old 
+</I>&gt;<i> packages and submit the new ones? If someone wants to double-check the changes 
+</I>&gt;<i> to check we did no mistake, please do too.
+</I>
+You added SILENT to the commit messages while this is a major change, it
+doesn't make sense.
+
+The rpms got &quot;+ rebuild (emptylog)&quot; as the log instead, which is not
+what happened.
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+Anssi Hannula
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+</I>&gt;<i> libtorrent and rtorrent are ready in SVN to submit. Can someone remove the old 
+</I>&gt;<i> packages and submit the new ones? If someone wants to double-check the changes 
+</I>&gt;<i> to check we did no mistake, please do too.
+</I>
+Ok, old packages removed, and resubmitted.
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+&gt;<i> 07.03.2012 18:20, Colin Guthrie skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; No, they will get systemd. We just need to resolve an issue with the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; upgrade to make this happen properly (could be a urpmi bug or something
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; similar).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I have now renamed sysvinit to sysvinit-legacy
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And both sysvinit-legacy and systemd-sysvinit provides sysvinit.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And we have systemd-sysvinit in prefer.vendor.list so upgrades will now
+</I>&gt;<i> choose systemd by default
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+I apparently missed a few meetings or e-mails where this was discussed, but 
+wasn't the initial plan to keep sysvinit by default in mga2 and switch to 
+systemd by default in mga3? Wasn't the switch to systemd by default in 
+cauldron a temporary switch in order to get more testing?
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+    <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 07.03.2012 23:13, Samuel Verschelde kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le mercredi 7 mars 2012 20:48:26, Remco Rijnders a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Wed, Mar 07, 2012 at 08:45:49PM +0100, nicolas wrote in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">20120307194549.GC21938 at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On Wed, 07 Mar 2012, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Should we increase the epoch to keep ugrade path from beta, or drop
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and replace the package ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; epoch should be used only to fix updates on stable releases. For
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; cauldron, users should be asked to remove and reinstall the package.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Out of interest and as learning experience... won't the buildsystem have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; a fit over being given an older version to build than it has in its
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; repositories already?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There must be a sysadmin intervention to remove the old packages before
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; submitting the new ones.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; libtorrent and rtorrent are ready in SVN to submit. Can someone remove
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the old packages and submit the new ones? If someone wants to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; double-check the changes to check we did no mistake, please do too.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> You added SILENT to the commit messages while this is a major change, it
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't make sense.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The rpms got &quot;+ rebuild (emptylog)&quot; as the log instead, which is not
+</I>&gt;<i> what happened.
+</I>
+Indeed, remmy will fix the commit messages and then I'll submit again to fix 
+the changelogs.
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 07 Mar 2012, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; libtorrent and rtorrent are ready in SVN to submit. Can someone remove the old 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages and submit the new ones? If someone wants to double-check the changes 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to check we did no mistake, please do too.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, old packages removed, and resubmitted.
+</I>
+rtorrent rebuild failed :
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120307213440.boklm.valstar.25249/log/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120307213440.boklm.valstar.25249/log/</A>
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+<PRE>Op woensdag 07 maart 2012 22:34:50 schreef Samuel Verschelde:
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+&gt;<i> I apparently missed a few meetings or e-mails where this was discussed, but
+</I>&gt;<i> wasn't the initial plan to keep sysvinit by default in mga2 and switch to
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd by default in mga3? Wasn't the switch to systemd by default in
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron a temporary switch in order to get more testing?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
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+that is what i originally thought too, but i guess i was mistaken
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and zezinho at 06/03/12 20:49 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Le mardi 6 mars 2012 21:41:10, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 6 March 2012 18:53, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is there a simple way to check if a game uses alsa-oss modules ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You can tell if an application uses oss by doing:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>  sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You don't need to be root in order to do that:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /sbin/fuser -v /dev/dsp
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks guys. So far only clanbomber needs soundwrapper, I am cleaning all 
+</I>&gt;<i> other specs.
+</I>
+Be careful with this test, as the games might not always have /dev/dsp
+open (i.e. they may only use it periodically).
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+Also, there could be problems with e.g. mmap where they might open the
+device and then fail to use mmap in which case they close it again.
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+So try not to rely on this test only.
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+Also if the open calls have been hijacked (i.e. soundwrapper has been
+used and is doing it's job correctly) it will likely not show up.
+
+So when testing make sure you do NOT use soundwrapper before doing your
+test.
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
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+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 7 mars 2012 22:41:52, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 07 Mar 2012, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Wed, 07 Mar 2012, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; libtorrent and rtorrent are ready in SVN to submit. Can someone remove
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; the old packages and submit the new ones? If someone wants to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; double-check the changes to check we did no mistake, please do too.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ok, old packages removed, and resubmitted.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> rtorrent rebuild failed :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/201203072">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/201203072</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 13440.boklm.valstar.25249/log/
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+ok, looks like the rewind was too far in the past. I think I fixed it, it 
+built.
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+    <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 07/03/12 19:41 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 07.03.2012 21:32, Johnny A. Solbu skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wednesday 07 March 2012 17:16, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What should we use instead?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> A graphical login agent - i.e gdm, kdm, lxdm etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In other words, we should no longer use runlevel 3 as default?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There are multiuser systems where running a graphical login agent is undesireable, for whatever reason.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> No. we need runlevel 3 to work too.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It's insane to expect to have to run any graphical stuff on servers /
+</I>&gt;<i> routers / ...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> But for most desktop users graphical login is wanted...
+</I>
+Exactly.
+
+multi-user.target (aka runlevel 3) is still needed for servers. There is
+no problem in using this mode.
+
+graphical.target (aka runlevel 5) is for users who want a graphical
+system, again there is no problem with this mode and it is meant to run
+a graphical login agent.
+
+The actual use case of using a text login and then starting X is quite
+small. Of course some people (like Wobo) do use this but it's definitely
+the exception rather than the rule.
+
+That's why it's not too much of a problem overall IMO. And like I say,
+this is something other distros have already done (OpenSUSE, Fedora).
+
+Col
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+-- 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 07/03/12 16:56 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 07.03.2012 18:20, Colin Guthrie skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No, they will get systemd. We just need to resolve an issue with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> upgrade to make this happen properly (could be a urpmi bug or something
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> similar).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I have now renamed sysvinit to sysvinit-legacy
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And both sysvinit-legacy and systemd-sysvinit provides sysvinit.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And we have systemd-sysvinit in prefer.vendor.list so upgrades will now
+</I>&gt;<i> choose systemd by default
+</I>
+Awesome, thanks :)
+
+Col
+
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
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+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Samuel Verschelde at 07/03/12 21:34 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 7 mars 2012 17:56:46, Thomas Backlund a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 07.03.2012 18:20, Colin Guthrie skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No, they will get systemd. We just need to resolve an issue with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> upgrade to make this happen properly (could be a urpmi bug or something
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> similar).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have now renamed sysvinit to sysvinit-legacy
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And both sysvinit-legacy and systemd-sysvinit provides sysvinit.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And we have systemd-sysvinit in prefer.vendor.list so upgrades will now
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> choose systemd by default
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I apparently missed a few meetings or e-mails where this was discussed, but 
+</I>&gt;<i> wasn't the initial plan to keep sysvinit by default in mga2 and switch to 
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd by default in mga3? Wasn't the switch to systemd by default in 
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron a temporary switch in order to get more testing?
+</I>
+Nope, this was never the case.
+
+The idea was to switch to systemd in mga2, but still support sysvinit.
+By mga3 we'll drop sysvinit completely.
+
+We very much want to encourage the use of systemd in this release.
+
+Col
+
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+</I>&gt;<i> I apparently missed a few meetings or e-mails where this was discussed, but
+</I>&gt;<i> wasn't the initial plan to keep sysvinit by default in mga2 and switch to
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd by default in mga3? Wasn't the switch to systemd by default in
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron a temporary switch in order to get more testing?
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+Yeah, many have asked about this, if this was decided it seems this
+decision wasn't announced to this list, I can't find the email talking
+about this, just about ppl like you and Maarten asking when did this
+change.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Juan Luis Baptiste at 07/03/12 22:08 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Samuel Verschelde &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">stormi at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I apparently missed a few meetings or e-mails where this was discussed, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wasn't the initial plan to keep sysvinit by default in mga2 and switch to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> systemd by default in mga3? Wasn't the switch to systemd by default in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cauldron a temporary switch in order to get more testing?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah, many have asked about this, if this was decided it seems this
+</I>&gt;<i> decision wasn't announced to this list, I can't find the email talking
+</I>&gt;<i> about this, just about ppl like you and Maarten asking when did this
+</I>&gt;<i> change.
+</I>
+It's my understanding that it was always the intention to default to
+systemd in mga2.
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+Certainly the last couple times people have asked exactly the same
+question on this list, this has been confirmed.
+
+As I said last time to this question, I'd certainly be extremely annoyed
+if mga2 does not default to systemd. I've given up a massive amount of
+my free time over this cycle working towards this. I would be massively
+annoyed if this effort was ultimately towards a secondary option.
+
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+Col
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> As I said last time to this question, I'd certainly be extremely annoyed
+</I>&gt;<i> if mga2 does not default to systemd. I've given up a massive amount of
+</I>&gt;<i> my free time over this cycle working towards this. I would be massively
+</I>&gt;<i> annoyed if this effort was ultimately towards a secondary option.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>
+Don't worry, no one has said that it shouldn't :), but it's clear
+there's a confusion as you have seen, many people understood that
+systemd would come as an alternative to mga2 and sysvinit as default,
+and systemd as default in mga3. I also remember reading last year this
+but never the change of plans, maybe it was decided on the meetinfgs,
+but as I can't attend to them because of the schedule I missed the
+announcement.
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+    <B>tux99-mga at uridium.org</B> 
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+I just tried Mageia 2 beta 1 on a Intel DN2800MT board hoping that it 
+would have framebuffer support for the GMA 3600, but the attached 
+monitor goes into standby (no signal) as soon as the frame buffer gets 
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+As far as I understand there is frame buffer support in the 3.3 kernel 
+for the GMA 3600 so in theory it should work.
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+Are you aware of this issue or should I do a bug report?
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+Atom cpus) with Mageia so far?
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How can we (the bugsquad or other people) determinate what can be a
+</I>&gt;<i> release_blocker bug ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> in the triage guide we can see:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;The release_blocker priority is only relevant to bugs filed on Cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> or beta releases, and should only be used for issues which are
+</I>&gt;<i> sufficiently critical that it would severely impair the overall quality
+</I>&gt;<i> of a release if it were made available without the issue being
+</I>&gt;<i> resolved.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That is not clear for me. And the only mail relating to that, was from
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne in May and not useful for me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So what about for release blockers:
+</I>&gt;<i> An default installed soft not working out of the box ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Any soft that cannot be launched ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Issue that a lot people can have ?
+</I>&gt;<i> something other ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Comments is welcome, thanks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW: The current one are:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?priority=release_blocker&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=REOPENED">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?priority=release_blocker&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=REOPENED</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> And related to trackers (also set to release blocker)
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=1994&amp;hide_resolved=1">https://bugs.mageia.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=1994&amp;hide_resolved=1</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Could bug 2317 please be added as a release blocker for final release.
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+    <B>Charles A Edwards</B> 
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+Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> The actual use case of using a text login and then starting X is quite
+</I>&gt;<i> small. Of course some people (like Wobo) do use this but it's
+</I>&gt;<i> definitely the exception rather than the rule.
+</I>
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+You can also add me to that 'small' list.
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+    Charles
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+Let the meek inherit the earth -- they have it coming to them.
+		-- James Thurber
+----------------------
+Mageia release 2 (Cauldron) for x86_64$
+On SuperSize....<A HREF="http://www.eslrahc.com">http://www.eslrahc.com</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Juan Luis Baptiste at 07/03/12 23:45 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As I said last time to this question, I'd certainly be extremely annoyed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if mga2 does not default to systemd. I've given up a massive amount of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> my free time over this cycle working towards this. I would be massively
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> annoyed if this effort was ultimately towards a secondary option.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Don't worry, no one has said that it shouldn't :), but it's clear
+</I>&gt;<i> there's a confusion as you have seen, many people understood that
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd would come as an alternative to mga2 and sysvinit as default,
+</I>&gt;<i> and systemd as default in mga3. I also remember reading last year this
+</I>&gt;<i> but never the change of plans, maybe it was decided on the meetinfgs,
+</I>&gt;<i> but as I can't attend to them because of the schedule I missed the
+</I>&gt;<i> announcement.
+</I>
+Well that's just the thing, I don't see it as a change... As far as I'm
+concerned I've always been targeting a systemd-by-default mga2.
+
+Col
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+-- 
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+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>tux99-mga at uridium.org</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> I just tried Mageia 2 beta 1 on a Intel DN2800MT board hoping that it 
+</I>&gt;<i> would have framebuffer support for the GMA 3600, but the attached 
+</I>&gt;<i> monitor goes into standby (no signal) as soon as the frame buffer gets 
+</I>&gt;<i> activated during boot.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> As far as I understand there is frame buffer support in the 3.3 kernel 
+</I>&gt;<i> for the GMA 3600 so in theory it should work.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Are you aware of this issue or should I do a bug report?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Has anyone else tested a GMA 3600 (the GPU that's in all Cedar Trail 
+</I>&gt;<i> Atom cpus) with Mageia so far?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> tux99
+</I>
+Just to add: I have tried all grub opptions (normal, non-fb and 
+failsafe) on each of them the same thing happens. with non-fb I can see 
+the boot process until almost the end, I guess it's the start of the dm 
+that triggers the loss of signal in that case.
+
+I tried editing the grub line adding a &quot;3&quot; at end hopeing to get it to 
+boot to runlevel 3 but that doesn't seem to work as the behaviour 
+doesn't change. Is &quot;3&quot; on the grub line still supposed to work?
+
+I imagine this GMA3600 issue needs solving before the final release as 
+CedarTrail Atoms will be in most Netbooks sold this year, and even 
+though netbooks are less popular then they used to be, they are still 
+selling by the milions especially in Asia.
+
+Let me know what I could do to help debug this.
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Charles A Edwards at 08/03/12 01:20 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 22:06:19 +0000
+</I>&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The actual use case of using a text login and then starting X is quite
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> small. Of course some people (like Wobo) do use this but it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> definitely the exception rather than the rule.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> You can also add me to that 'small' list.
+</I>
+You seem unconvinced due to your use of quotes. It's very hard to
+evaluate this kind of thing, but obviously &quot;developery&quot; types are a
+skewed source of information.
+
+Believe me, I frequently design out approaches that I myself use because
+they are quite simply the wrong approach and I refuse to let my own
+personal habits get in the way of correct design.
+
+This is why I give far less credence to &quot;old habits&quot; and &quot;how it's been
+done in the past&quot; and much more to &quot;what would my mum expect&quot; or &quot;what
+would a novice computer user expect&quot;.
+
+&gt;<i>From this viewpoint the problems some developer types (myself included)
+</I>attach to some issues simply vanish.
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>David W. Hodgins</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 21:00:38 -0500, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I just tried Mageia 2 beta 1 on a Intel DN2800MT board hoping that it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would have framebuffer support for the GMA 3600, but the attached
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> monitor goes into standby (no signal) as soon as the frame buffer gets
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> activated during boot.
+</I>
+Try disabling kms by adding either nokmsboot or modeset.i915=0 to
+the kernel options.
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+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+    <B>David W. Hodgins</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;<i> As far as I understand there is frame buffer support in the 3.3 kernel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for the GMA 3600 so in theory it should work.
+</I>
+Oops.  Sorry, that second one should have been
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+    <B>Charles A Edwards</B> 
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+Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> &gt; You can also add me to that 'small' list.  
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> You seem unconvinced due to your use of quotes. It's very hard to
+</I>&gt;<i> evaluate this kind of thing, but obviously &quot;developery&quot; types are a
+</I>&gt;<i> skewed source of information.
+</I>
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+I was being facetious..
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+There in no doubt that this places me in a minuscule minority.
+But I can/will adapt and either find/develop a work-a-round or learn
+to live with using a dm.
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+
+    Charles
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+-- 
+Schapiro's Explanation:
+	The grass is always greener on the other side -- but that's
+	because they use more manure.
+----------------------
+Mageia release 2 (Cauldron) for x86_64$
+On SuperSize....<A HREF="http://www.eslrahc.com">http://www.eslrahc.com</A>
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+    <B>Matthew Dawkins</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Kamil Rytarowski at 02/03/12 19:43 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 02.03.2012 19:55, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 02.03.2012 20:49, Kamil Rytarowski skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Is possible to ship qt3-devel with Mageia? Half of the the Polish
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; community is demanding it, and because of lack of qt3-devel people
+</I>&gt;<i> can't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; switch from other Well Known Distros to Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; NO.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; As stated a million times before...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; qt3 is obsolete
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The only reason we have some qt3 runtime support is because of LSB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sad..
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Any stuff needed should be ported to qt4.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Actually this is not true. One of our Mageia users (who introduced
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia on a dozen of machines) can't switch the next dozen because of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lacking Rivendell Radio Broadcasting software (
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.rivendellaudio.org/index.shtml">http://www.rivendellaudio.org/index.shtml</A> ), the other can't use his
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; favourite qt3 apps, and a few others (including RH employee) are forced
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to use Fedora or KDE4.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If the &quot;obsolete&quot; part is the only reason, then it's not too strong..
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the package is maintained and there is *upstream*.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As of the 3.5.13 release the Trinity project has taken over maintenance
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of Qt3.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     This means we are the new &quot;upstream&quot; location for up-to-date Qt3
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; source code.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     Since there have been no updates or stable releases from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Nokia/Trolltech in many years and there are literally hundreds patches
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; floating around, there was a significant need for a central location.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     By maintaining Qt3 it will allow us to continue to improve Qt3
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; outside the scope of Trinity. It will also provide a central location
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for Linux distributions to build packages from, and contributers to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; submit code to.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     For obvious reasons any Qt3 version released by this project is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; licensed under the GPL only; holders of Trolltech Qt licenses may not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; use these versions in their proprietary projects.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3">http://www.trinitydesktop.org/wiki/bin/view/Documentation/Releases_3_5_13#Qt3</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Trinity is currently packaged for Mandriva, OpenSUSE and available for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the main distros.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am thoroughly unimpressed with this trinity stuff. Open Source
+</I>&gt;<i> software gives people freedoms and that's good, but it doesn't stop them
+</I>&gt;<i> making bad decisions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Times move on. Why take a legacy bit of software and keep on developing
+</I>&gt;<i> it? If they *really* cared so much for the KDE3 interface they would
+</I>&gt;<i> port it to qt4 or even qt5, not limp on with outdated base layers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Funny you say that. I believe they tried with a pkg called qtinterface.
+Don't quote me, but the gist of it was that qt4 has performance issues in
+many areas.
+
+It's all POV... I wouldn't call kde4 the panacea of DEs either... so in a
+sense I agree with you in that it doesn't stop a group of ppl from making a
+long set of bad decisions....
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> colin(at)mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Day Job:
+</I>&gt;<i>  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Open Source:
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+</I>&gt;<i>  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 4.1.8-17.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 219296
+</I>&gt;<i> - rebuild for kernel-3.3.0-0.rc6.1.mga2
+</I>
+BTW there's a bug: when we update kernel, we install new kmd-vbox
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+    <B>zezinho</B> 
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+&gt;<i> So when testing make sure you do NOT use soundwrapper before doing your
+</I>&gt;<i> test.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+Yes. In fact, I tested on a system without pulseaudio, playing music through 
+mplayer. I launched the game, if this failed (crash or no sound), I kept 
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Juan Luis Baptiste at 07/03/12 23:45 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As I said last time to this question, I'd certainly be extremely annoyed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> if mga2 does not default to systemd. I've given up a massive amount of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> my free time over this cycle working towards this. I would be massively
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> annoyed if this effort was ultimately towards a secondary option.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Don't worry, no one has said that it shouldn't :), but it's clear
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there's a confusion as you have seen, many people understood that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> systemd would come as an alternative to mga2 and sysvinit as default,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and systemd as default in mga3. I also remember reading last year this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but never the change of plans, maybe it was decided on the meetinfgs,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but as I can't attend to them because of the schedule I missed the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> announcement.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well that's just the thing, I don't see it as a change... As far as I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> concerned I've always been targeting a systemd-by-default mga2.
+</I>
+I thought as well that this will be the case.
+
+Related question:
+Just started updates and urpmi asks me to select either
+ - systemd-sysvinit or
+ - sysvinit-legacy
+for installation. I suppose when using systemd I should install
+systemd-sysvinit, right?
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 07 mars 2012 &#224; 21:43 +0100, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> How can we (the bugsquad or other people) determinate what can be a
+</I>&gt;<i> release_blocker bug ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> in the triage guide we can see:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;The release_blocker priority is only relevant to bugs filed on Cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> or beta releases, and should only be used for issues which are
+</I>&gt;<i> sufficiently critical that it would severely impair the overall quality
+</I>&gt;<i> of a release if it were made available without the issue being
+</I>&gt;<i> resolved.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> That is not clear for me. And the only mail relating to that, was from
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne in May and not useful for me.
+</I>
+I would say &quot;stuff that cannot be fixed after release&quot; would be release
+blocker. Not to say that the rest cannot be too, but at least, that's
+the first criteria.
+
+So a software on livecd that crash on startup would also be a blocker.
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+    <B>Dale Huckeby</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 22:06:19 +0000
+</I>&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The actual use case of using a text login and then starting X is quite
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> small. Of course some people (like Wobo) do use this but it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> definitely the exception rather than the rule.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can also add me to that 'small' list.
+</I>
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>
+Hi
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+Here is a reminder
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+</I>&gt;<i> While working on debugging isos, we found out that a big cleanning
+</I>&gt;<i> should be done on rpmsrate. Below a list of packages non available in
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia. Can you please add a status deprecated  / imported / don't import
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so that we can clean this
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cleaning_rpmsrate">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cleaning_rpmsrate</A>
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+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 08/03/12 08:24 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/8 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Juan Luis Baptiste at 07/03/12 23:45 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As I said last time to this question, I'd certainly be extremely annoyed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> if mga2 does not default to systemd. I've given up a massive amount of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> my free time over this cycle working towards this. I would be massively
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> annoyed if this effort was ultimately towards a secondary option.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Don't worry, no one has said that it shouldn't :), but it's clear
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> there's a confusion as you have seen, many people understood that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> systemd would come as an alternative to mga2 and sysvinit as default,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and systemd as default in mga3. I also remember reading last year this
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but never the change of plans, maybe it was decided on the meetinfgs,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but as I can't attend to them because of the schedule I missed the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> announcement.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well that's just the thing, I don't see it as a change... As far as I'm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> concerned I've always been targeting a systemd-by-default mga2.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I thought as well that this will be the case.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Related question:
+</I>&gt;<i> Just started updates and urpmi asks me to select either
+</I>&gt;<i>  - systemd-sysvinit or
+</I>&gt;<i>  - sysvinit-legacy
+</I>&gt;<i> for installation. I suppose when using systemd I should install
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd-sysvinit, right?
+</I>
+Yup! This should have happened earlier (in fact I thought it was already
+asking you that but with the sysvinit package called just &quot;sysvinit&quot; but
+it seems we needed to rename it to get urpmi to really do the right thing.
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+Due to the vendor list, it should prefer the systemd version and thus
+pick it by default for you or use it without question if you pass --auto.
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+Col
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+<PRE>On Wed, 7 Mar 2012, David W. Hodgins wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 07 Mar 2012 21:00:38 -0500, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I just tried Mageia 2 beta 1 on a Intel DN2800MT board hoping that it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; would have framebuffer support for the GMA 3600, but the attached
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; monitor goes into standby (no signal) as soon as the frame buffer gets
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; activated during boot.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Try disabling kms by adding either nokmsboot or modeset.i915=0 to
+</I>&gt;<i> the kernel options.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+Thanks but neither nokmsboot nor i915.modeset=0 make much of a 
+difference. With nokmsboot I get the mageia splash screen for a second 
+or too (I wasn't seeing that before), but after that the monitor still 
+goes into standby. i915.modeset=0 has no effect.
+
+The following Meego ISO works fine with this mobo (both kms and xorg):
+<A HREF="http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/updates/1.2.0/images/meego-netbook-ia32-cedartrail/">http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/updates/1.2.0/images/meego-netbook-ia32-cedartrail/</A>
+
+Also Centos 6.2 boots fine to runlevel 3 without disabling anything 
+(probably because the Centos 6.2 kernel doesn't have any support for the 
+GMA3600).
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> at 08/03/12 02:00 did gyre and
+gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I just tried Mageia 2 beta 1 on a Intel DN2800MT board hoping that it 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would have framebuffer support for the GMA 3600, but the attached 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> monitor goes into standby (no signal) as soon as the frame buffer gets 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> activated during boot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As far as I understand there is frame buffer support in the 3.3 kernel 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for the GMA 3600 so in theory it should work.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Are you aware of this issue or should I do a bug report?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Has anyone else tested a GMA 3600 (the GPU that's in all Cedar Trail 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Atom cpus) with Mageia so far?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tux99
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Just to add: I have tried all grub opptions (normal, non-fb and 
+</I>&gt;<i> failsafe) on each of them the same thing happens. with non-fb I can see 
+</I>&gt;<i> the boot process until almost the end, I guess it's the start of the dm 
+</I>&gt;<i> that triggers the loss of signal in that case.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I tried editing the grub line adding a &quot;3&quot; at end hopeing to get it to 
+</I>&gt;<i> boot to runlevel 3 but that doesn't seem to work as the behaviour 
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't change. Is &quot;3&quot; on the grub line still supposed to work?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I imagine this GMA3600 issue needs solving before the final release as 
+</I>&gt;<i> CedarTrail Atoms will be in most Netbooks sold this year, and even 
+</I>&gt;<i> though netbooks are less popular then they used to be, they are still 
+</I>&gt;<i> selling by the milions especially in Asia.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Let me know what I could do to help debug this.
+</I>
+This depends on your upgrade path of your Mageia install. Is it a fresh
+install?
+
+Runlevel 3 works fine here, but if you've upgraded your box from
+cauldron for a while, they it's possible that the static getty on tty1
+is not configured.
+
+Switch to tty2 after booting to runlevel 3. It should let you log in.
+
+Then make sure to run &quot;systemctl enable <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at .service</A>&quot; to ensure your
+tty1 is enabled.
+
+Don't know about that chipset in particular tho'.
+
+Col
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> at 08/03/12 02:00 did gyre and
+</I>&gt;<i> gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I just tried Mageia 2 beta 1 on a Intel DN2800MT board hoping that it 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; would have framebuffer support for the GMA 3600, but the attached 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; monitor goes into standby (no signal) as soon as the frame buffer gets 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; activated during boot.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; As far as I understand there is frame buffer support in the 3.3 kernel 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; for the GMA 3600 so in theory it should work.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Are you aware of this issue or should I do a bug report?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Has anyone else tested a GMA 3600 (the GPU that's in all Cedar Trail 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Atom cpus) with Mageia so far?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; tux99
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Just to add: I have tried all grub opptions (normal, non-fb and 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; failsafe) on each of them the same thing happens. with non-fb I can see 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the boot process until almost the end, I guess it's the start of the dm 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that triggers the loss of signal in that case.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I tried editing the grub line adding a &quot;3&quot; at end hopeing to get it to 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; boot to runlevel 3 but that doesn't seem to work as the behaviour 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; doesn't change. Is &quot;3&quot; on the grub line still supposed to work?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I imagine this GMA3600 issue needs solving before the final release as 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; CedarTrail Atoms will be in most Netbooks sold this year, and even 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; though netbooks are less popular then they used to be, they are still 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; selling by the milions especially in Asia.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Let me know what I could do to help debug this.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This depends on your upgrade path of your Mageia install. Is it a fresh
+</I>&gt;<i> install?
+</I>
+Yes, fresh install using the Mageia 2 beta 1 netinstall ISO, I selected 
+the LXDE desktop to keep the install size small.
+ 
+&gt;<i> Switch to tty2 after booting to runlevel 3. It should let you log in.
+</I>
+Well if I press Ctrl-Alt-F2 after waiting 10-15 seconds after the screen 
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+cleanly so it's not frozen, it's only the video output that doesn't 
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+    <B>Sander Lepik</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Name        : get-skype                    Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - remove noarch tag
+</I>&gt;<i> - add ExclusiveArch tag with value %{ix86}, Skype for Linux is currently 32-bit only and it needs 32-bit libraries
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    + sander85&lt;sander85&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>      - fix some typos
+</I>Skype is pretty popular nowdays. 64-bit systems are pretty popular too, 
+you know. Yes, we had conflict with policy. But in this case i think the 
+policy is the one that must be changed. For exeptions like Skype. Or we 
+need to add Nonfree 32 for 64-bit systems which makes a lot less sense 
+to me. Or you will start explaining to users again, why we don't have 
+Skype in our distro :(
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+It worked w/o any problems on 64-bit systems. Now we are back in square one.
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+&gt;<i> 08.03.2012 14:04, kamil kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Name : get-skype Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - remove noarch tag
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - add ExclusiveArch tag with value %{ix86}, Skype for Linux is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> currently 32-bit only and it needs 32-bit libraries
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + sander85&lt;sander85&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - fix some typos
+</I>&gt;<i> Skype is pretty popular nowdays. 64-bit systems are pretty popular too,
+</I>&gt;<i> you know. Yes, we had conflict with policy. But in this case i think the
+</I>&gt;<i> policy is the one that must be changed. For exeptions like Skype. Or we
+</I>&gt;<i> need to add Nonfree 32 for 64-bit systems which makes a lot less sense
+</I>&gt;<i> to me. Or you will start explaining to users again, why we don't have
+</I>&gt;<i> Skype in our distro :(
+</I>If you start explaining issues, maybe you could directly explain the 
+truth, aka:
+- skype itself is not present, because its licensing prevent redistribution
+- a skype installer is present, in a specific package section
+- in order to install it, they may have to first configure a new urpmi media
+
+Requesting policy exception just because 'life is otherwise too much 
+complex for our poor users base' isn't going to get much suffrage...
+-- 
+BOFH excuse #226:
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+A star wars satellite accidently blew up the WAN.
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 08 mars 2012 &#224; 14:20 +0200, Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 08.03.2012 14:04, kamil kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Name        : get-skype                    Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - remove noarch tag
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - add ExclusiveArch tag with value %{ix86}, Skype for Linux is currently 32-bit only and it needs 32-bit libraries
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;    + sander85&lt;sander85&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;      - fix some typos
+</I>&gt;<i> Skype is pretty popular nowdays. 64-bit systems are pretty popular too, 
+</I>&gt;<i> you know. Yes, we had conflict with policy. But in this case i think the 
+</I>&gt;<i> policy is the one that must be changed. For exeptions like Skype. Or we 
+</I>&gt;<i> need to add Nonfree 32 for 64-bit systems which makes a lot less sense 
+</I>&gt;<i> to me. Or you will start explaining to users again, why we don't have 
+</I>&gt;<i> Skype in our distro :(
+</I>
+Like with flash for some month ?
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_1_Errata#The_skeleton_Adobe_Flash_Player_package_only_exists_in_the_Nonfree_repository">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_1_Errata#The_skeleton_Adobe_Flash_Player_package_only_exists_in_the_Nonfree_repository</A>
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+<PRE>2012/3/8 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 08/03/12 08:24 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/8 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Juan Luis Baptiste at 07/03/12 23:45 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 6:34 PM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As I said last time to this question, I'd certainly be extremely annoyed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> if mga2 does not default to systemd. I've given up a massive amount of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> my free time over this cycle working towards this. I would be massively
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> annoyed if this effort was ultimately towards a secondary option.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Don't worry, no one has said that it shouldn't :), but it's clear
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> there's a confusion as you have seen, many people understood that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> systemd would come as an alternative to mga2 and sysvinit as default,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and systemd as default in mga3. I also remember reading last year this
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but never the change of plans, maybe it was decided on the meetinfgs,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but as I can't attend to them because of the schedule I missed the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> announcement.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Well that's just the thing, I don't see it as a change... As far as I'm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> concerned I've always been targeting a systemd-by-default mga2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I thought as well that this will be the case.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Related question:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just started updates and urpmi asks me to select either
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- systemd-sysvinit or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- sysvinit-legacy
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for installation. I suppose when using systemd I should install
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> systemd-sysvinit, right?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yup! This should have happened earlier (in fact I thought it was already
+</I>&gt;<i> asking you that but with the sysvinit package called just &quot;sysvinit&quot; but
+</I>&gt;<i> it seems we needed to rename it to get urpmi to really do the right thing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Due to the vendor list, it should prefer the systemd version and thus
+</I>&gt;<i> pick it by default for you or use it without question if you pass --auto.
+</I>
+Thx, after I selected '1' urpmi told me that the package sysvinit is
+going to be uninstalled.
+After installing 440 updates (including kernel) and reboot system
+comes up fine without any failure messages.
+Desktop (KDE) is on tty1, using ctrl+Alt+F2 (-F6) takes me to a text
+login on tty2-6 as expected.
+tty7-11 are not accessible, tty12 shows syslog messages.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It looks like bugzilla no more send mails when new comments are added
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to bugs where I'm in the cc list since a couple days...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> See you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I didn't notice any problem. Do you have an exemple of bug where you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> didn't receive email ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4724">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4724</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4432">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4432</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4197">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4197</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4769">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4769</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thus I've opened <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4850">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4850</A>
+</I>
+Anybody else not receiving bugzilla mails anymore?
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+<PRE>08.03.2012 13:48, kamil kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> Name        : rutorrent                    Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version     : 3.4                               Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> kamil &lt;kamil&gt; 3.4-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 221417
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix a requirement and use now apache (apache-conf is obsoleted by apache)
+</I>
+WTF, so e.g. lighttpd requires apache now? Isn't that a bit strange?
+
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+the same was true for lighttpd)
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 13:33, Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 08.03.2012 13:48, kamil kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Name &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: rutorrent &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Version &#160; &#160; : 3.4 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kamil &lt;kamil&gt; 3.4-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 221417
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - fix a requirement and use now apache (apache-conf is obsoleted by apache)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> WTF, so e.g. lighttpd requires apache now? Isn't that a bit strange?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (rutorrent only required 'apache-conf' for the apache user, and I guess
+</I>&gt;<i> the same was true for lighttpd)
+</I>
+And for /var/www/html
+This should really be a server-neutral thing (with a better name for
+the user, like www-data) but I never took the time to do it :(
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 08.03.2012 13:48, kamil kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Name        : rutorrent                    Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Version     : 3.4                               Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kamil&lt;kamil&gt;  3.4-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 221417
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - fix a requirement and use now apache (apache-conf is obsoleted by apache)
+</I>&gt;<i> WTF, so e.g. lighttpd requires apache now? Isn't that a bit strange?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (rutorrent only required 'apache-conf' for the apache user, and I guess
+</I>&gt;<i> the same was true for lighttpd)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I> From the Apache .spec:
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+&quot;Summary:    The most widely used Web server on the Internet
+Name:       apache
+(...)
+Obsoletes:  apache-conf&quot;
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 08.03.2012 14:33, Anssi Hannula wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 08.03.2012 13:48, kamil kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Name        : rutorrent                    Relocations: (not 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Version     : 3.4                               Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> kamil&lt;kamil&gt;  3.4-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 221417
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - fix a requirement and use now apache (apache-conf is obsoleted by 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> apache)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> WTF, so e.g. lighttpd requires apache now? Isn't that a bit strange?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (rutorrent only required 'apache-conf' for the apache user, and I guess
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the same was true for lighttpd)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> From the Apache .spec:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Summary:    The most widely used Web server on the Internet
+</I>&gt;<i> Name:       apache
+</I>&gt;<i> (...)
+</I>&gt;<i> Obsoletes:  apache-conf&quot;
+</I>* Thu Sep 01 2011 guillomovitch &lt;guillomovitch&gt; 2.2.20-2.mga2
++ Revision: 137745
+- merge apache-conf and apache-base, to reduce dependencies hell
+- rework dependencies to a comprehensive model: apache is an empty 
+package, requiring the configuration, the modules and an engine
+- rework post/preun scripts to use 'service httpd condrestart'
+- ensure post/preun dependencies consistency with post/preun scriptlets
+- simplify macros mess
+- stop preventing initscript to be localized
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+    <B>Pierre Jarillon</B> 
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 8 mars 2012 03:08:03, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> This is why I give far less credence to &quot;old habits&quot; and &quot;how it's been
+</I>&gt;<i> done in the past&quot; and much more to &quot;what would my mum expect&quot; or &quot;what
+</I>&gt;<i> would a novice computer user expect&quot;.
+</I>
+I understand why you want to remove startx and I agree. But a lot of people 
+dont't read this mailing list.
+My suggestion is to put in /usr/bin/startx
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+#!/bin/sh
+echo &quot;startx is deprecated, use instead kdm or gdm or lxdm....&quot;
+echo &quot;More informations on <A HREF="http://......">http://......</A>&quot;
+
+Then old linux users will be not not lost... for Mageia.
+
+-- 
+Pierre Jarillon - <A HREF="http://pjarillon.free.fr/">http://pjarillon.free.fr/</A>
+Vice-pr&#233;sident de l'ABUL : <A HREF="http://abul.org">http://abul.org</A>
+Microsoft est &#224; l'informatique ce que McDonald est &#224; la gastronomie
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+<PRE>On 08.03.2012 13:20, Sander Lepik wrote:
+&gt;<i> 08.03.2012 14:04, kamil kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Name        : get-skype                    Relocations: (not 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - remove noarch tag
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - add ExclusiveArch tag with value %{ix86}, Skype for Linux is 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> currently 32-bit only and it needs 32-bit libraries
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    + sander85&lt;sander85&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      - fix some typos
+</I>&gt;<i> Skype is pretty popular nowdays. 64-bit systems are pretty popular 
+</I>&gt;<i> too, you know. Yes, we had conflict with policy. But in this case i 
+</I>&gt;<i> think the policy is the one that must be changed.
+</I>Do you want to merge 32-bit and 64-bit software for nonfree and tainted?
+&gt;<i> For exeptions like Skype. 
+</I>Why?
+&gt;<i> Or we need to add Nonfree 32 for 64-bit systems which makes a lot less 
+</I>&gt;<i> sense to me.
+</I>If we add core 32-bit, then why not nonfree 32-bit? Why to bloat our 
+servers with pseudo 64-bit packages?
+&gt;<i> Or you will start explaining to users again, why we don't have Skype 
+</I>&gt;<i> in our distro :(
+</I>1. Skype isn't in our distro, just a dummy package.
+2. Moving into the right place = not shipping at all?
+3. Tagging Skype as noarch is a falsehood. What about the coming ARM? 
+What about other 32-bit only software?
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It worked w/o any problems on 64-bit systems. Now we are back in 
+</I>&gt;<i> square one.
+</I>Every 32-bit software should work without any problems with 64-bit 
+systems.. this is not a real argument.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -- 
+</I>&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 08/03/2012 14:38, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 13:33, Anssi Hannula&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 08.03.2012 13:48, kamil kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Name        : rutorrent                    Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Version     : 3.4                               Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> kamil&lt;kamil&gt;  3.4-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 221417
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - fix a requirement and use now apache (apache-conf is obsoleted by apache)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> WTF, so e.g. lighttpd requires apache now? Isn't that a bit strange?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (rutorrent only required 'apache-conf' for the apache user, and I guess
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the same was true for lighttpd)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And for /var/www/html
+</I>&gt;<i> This should really be a server-neutral thing (with a better name for
+</I>&gt;<i> the user, like www-data) but I never took the time to do it :(
+</I>What is needed exactly by various web servers ? I really doubt anything 
+else as apache requires apache configuration file. And if it is just a 
+/var/www/html directory, there is no use to have a dependency for 
+something any sysadmin is able to create himself.
+-- 
+A dropped nut will seek the least level of accessibility
+		-- Assembly General Shefields Corollaries n&#176;5
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Pierre Jarillon at 08/03/12 13:58 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 8 mars 2012 03:08:03, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is why I give far less credence to &quot;old habits&quot; and &quot;how it's been
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> done in the past&quot; and much more to &quot;what would my mum expect&quot; or &quot;what
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would a novice computer user expect&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I understand why you want to remove startx and I agree. But a lot of people 
+</I>&gt;<i> dont't read this mailing list.
+</I>&gt;<i> My suggestion is to put in /usr/bin/startx
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> #!/bin/sh
+</I>&gt;<i> echo &quot;startx is deprecated, use instead kdm or gdm or lxdm....&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> echo &quot;More informations on <A HREF="http://......">http://......</A>&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Then old linux users will be not not lost... for Mageia.
+</I>
+Yup, that's exactly what I was proposing to do until such times as there
+is a replacement that can act like a real session manager.
+
+Col
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+<PRE>Am 16.02.2012 10:25, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> due to the fact that this problem has already been encountered,
+</I>&gt;<i> it was brought up in yesterdays meeting that we need to discuss
+</I>&gt;<i> on a policy about how to handle unresponsive package maintainers,
+</I>&gt;<i> or if somebody is absent for a longer time (say more than a few days)
+</I>&gt;<i> we should also have guidelines or at least an official way to notify
+</I>&gt;<i> others of the absence.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So to start and support the discussion, i've imported and adapted a
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora policy on this subject into our wiki, the original version can
+</I>&gt;<i> be seen at:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Policy/NonResponsiveMaintainers">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Policy/NonResponsiveMaintainers</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've imported it to:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Nonresponsive_package_maintainers">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Nonresponsive_package_maintainers</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Remember this is just a proposal, so details may need to be readjusted,
+</I>&gt;<i> For example in place of the FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee)
+</I>&gt;<i> i've put a placeholder &quot;packaging team leader/representative/member&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> but maybe this could also be a task for the council, it's just that we have
+</I>&gt;<i> a basis for discussion of the policy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> About the absence, or if somebody is on vacation, i've imported also
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Absent">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Absent</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> So please add an entry there if you will be absent from Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> contribution or not responding to emails/IRC for more than a few
+</I>&gt;<i> days.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Maybe &quot;nonresponsive&quot; should have been removed from the
+subject, then it wouldn't have infected everyone else ... :/
+
+No comments, objections or anything about that proposal
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 08/03/12 13:17 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 8 March 2012 12:59, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It looks like bugzilla no more send mails when new comments are added
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to bugs where I'm in the cc list since a couple days...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> See you
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I didn't notice any problem. Do you have an exemple of bug where you
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> didn't receive email ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4724">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4724</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4432">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4432</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4197">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4197</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4769">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4769</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thus I've opened <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4850">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4850</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Anybody else not receiving bugzilla mails anymore?
+</I>
+I'm still getting them. Maybe it's just for @mageia.org addresses or
+something?
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 08/03/12 13:06 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Yup! This should have happened earlier (in fact I thought it was already
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> asking you that but with the sysvinit package called just &quot;sysvinit&quot; but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it seems we needed to rename it to get urpmi to really do the right thing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Due to the vendor list, it should prefer the systemd version and thus
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> pick it by default for you or use it without question if you pass --auto.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thx, after I selected '1' urpmi told me that the package sysvinit is
+</I>&gt;<i> going to be uninstalled.
+</I>&gt;<i> After installing 440 updates (including kernel) and reboot system
+</I>&gt;<i> comes up fine without any failure messages.
+</I>&gt;<i> Desktop (KDE) is on tty1, using ctrl+Alt+F2 (-F6) takes me to a text
+</I>&gt;<i> login on tty2-6 as expected.
+</I>
+Lovely.
+
+&gt;<i> tty7-11 are not accessible, tty12 shows syslog messages.
+</I>
+Yeah, this is expected. If you like, you can configure getty's on
+tty7-11 if you set the NAutoVTs= to 11 (rather than the default of 6) in
+/etc/systemd/systemd-logind.conf
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+Col
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+<PRE>Hello!
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+I can't build plt in our BS. There are files named &quot;%something&quot; how to 
+pass with this package that block?
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+Submission errors, aborting:
+- plt-mzscheme-4.2.4-2.mga2.i586:
+  - unexpanded-macro /usr/lib/plt/collects/srfi/%3a18.ss %3a18
+  - unexpanded-macro /usr/lib/plt/collects/srfi/%3a39/compiled %3a39
+  - unexpanded-macro /usr/lib/plt/collects/srfi/compiled/%3a98_ss.zo %3a98_ss
+  - unexpanded-macro /usr/lib/plt/collects/srfi/%3a48/compiled/intermediate-format-strings_ss.dep %3a48
+  - unexpanded-macro /usr/lib/plt/collects/srfi/%3a14/compiled/char-sets_ss.dep %3a14
+  - unexpanded-macro /usr/lib/plt/collects/srfi/%3a42/compiled/eager-comprehensions_ss.dep %3a42
+  - unexpanded-macro /usr/lib/plt/collects/srfi/compiled/%3a5_ss.dep %3a5_ss
+  - unexpanded-macro /usr/lib/plt/collects/srfi/%3a67/compiled/compare-procedures_ss.zo %3a67
+  - unexpanded-macro /usr/lib/plt/collects/srfi/%3a57/compiled %3a57
+  - unexpanded-macro /usr/lib/plt/collects/srfi/compiled/%3a1_ss.zo %3a1_ss
+  - unexpanded-macro /usr/lib/plt/collects/srfi/%3a71.ss %3a71
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+  - unexpanded-macro /usr/lib/plt/collects/srfi/%3a9.ss %3a9
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+    <I>Thu Mar  8 15:17:33 CET 2012</I>
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+Since switching to systemd, the mingetty we used to default to in
+inittab has been replaced by agetty (the default choice upstream).
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+The question is should we switch it back to mingetty?
+
+An argument against mingetty is that the current support in systemd will
+automatically work over serial consoles. With embedded systems and such
+more common these days, this might actually be a common situation (for
+very small values of &quot;common&quot; of course!).
+
+&gt;<i>From the man page of mingetty:
+</I>
+mingetty is a minimal  getty  for  use  on  virtual  consoles.   Unlike
+agetty(8),  mingetty  is  not  suitable  for serial lines.  I recommend
+using mgetty(8) for this purpose.
+
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+So if we switch to mingetty in <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at .service</A> we'll be sacrificing
+serial console support.
+
+Have people got strong opinions on this? Can anyone remember why we
+ended up defaulting to mingetty in the first place?
+
+Col
+
+PS I'm aware of some &quot;strange&quot; behaviour on the current gettys. When on
+a getty you can use the cursor keys and move the cursor around. Keys
+such as backspace don't seem to work if you mistype your username or
+password (I'm pretty sure this used to work, but maybe I'm
+misremembering?). This is slightly improved with mingetty - in that the
+cursor keys don't move the text entry area, but they do print
+non-printable characters that still can't be deleted. I'll try and make
+this nicer, but it's probably not the highest priority problem on my list :p
+
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Sander Lepik</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 08.03.2012 13:20, Sander Lepik wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Skype is pretty popular nowdays. 64-bit systems are pretty popular 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> too, you know. Yes, we had conflict with policy. But in this case i 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> think the policy is the one that must be changed.
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you want to merge 32-bit and 64-bit software for nonfree and tainted?
+</I>No, i don't.
+&gt;&gt;<i> For exeptions like Skype. 
+</I>&gt;<i> Why?
+</I>Because this can't be done any other way.
+&gt;&gt;<i> Or we need to add Nonfree 32 for 64-bit systems which makes a lot 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> less sense to me.
+</I>&gt;<i> If we add core 32-bit, then why not nonfree 32-bit? Why to bloat our 
+</I>&gt;<i> servers with pseudo 64-bit packages?
+</I>Bloat? Noarch packages should be hardlinked AFAIK.
+&gt;&gt;<i> Or you will start explaining to users again, why we don't have Skype 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in our distro :(
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Skype isn't in our distro, just a dummy package.
+</I>User has no idea what it is, (s)he either can find it in rpmdrake or not.
+&gt;<i> 2. Moving into the right place = not shipping at all?
+</I>For 64-bit users it is not shipping at all.
+&gt;<i> 3. Tagging Skype as noarch is a falsehood. What about the coming ARM? 
+</I>&gt;<i> What about other 32-bit only software?
+</I>Lets deal with ARM problems when ARM is supported. For that time we 
+might have 64-bit Skype.
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It worked w/o any problems on 64-bit systems. Now we are back in 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> square one.
+</I>&gt;<i> Every 32-bit software should work without any problems with 64-bit 
+</I>&gt;<i> systems.. this is not a real argument.
+</I>Yes, but 32-bit nonfree packages are not available to 64-bit users.
+
+I was quite sure that Mageia would keep the usability bit that Mandriva 
+had. But with our current direction Gentoo is soon easier to use for 
+non-developer/sysadmin user.
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+--
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+    <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thursday 08 March 2012 15:17, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> So if we switch to mingetty in <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at .service</A> we'll be sacrificing
+</I>&gt;<i> serial console support.
+</I>
+Then you're also sacrificing a few braille users. (e.g. blind users.)
+
+-- 
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Johnny A. Solbu at 08/03/12 14:29 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Thursday 08 March 2012 15:17, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So if we switch to mingetty in <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at .service</A> we'll be sacrificing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> serial console support.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Then you're also sacrificing a few braille users. (e.g. blind users.)
+</I>
+Can you give more details on this? Do you know how this was handled in
+our inittab setup?
+
+Col
+
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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+<PRE>Sander Lepik skrev 8.3.2012 16:18:
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+</I>&gt;<i> I was quite sure that Mageia would keep the usability bit that Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> had. But with our current direction Gentoo is soon easier to use for
+</I>&gt;<i> non-developer/sysadmin user.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+You do realize we promote open source wich skype is not...
+
+And since MS is aquiring skype I guess there will soon be no linux version.
+
+but we can put info in errata / release notes on how to get skype for 
+those that want it....
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+--
+Thomas
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 08/03/2012 15:18, Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I was quite sure that Mageia would keep the usability bit that Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> had. But with our current direction Gentoo is soon easier to use for
+</I>&gt;<i> non-developer/sysadmin user.
+</I>Gentoo is still too much user-friendly for my taste, I'd rather target 
+LFS :)
+
+C'mon guy, stop the FUD, and write correct user-readable documentation 
+instead of ressorting to this kind of dirty hacks.
+
+-- 
+The book or periodical most vital to the completion of your term paper 
+will be missing from the library.
+Corollary: If it is available, the most important page will be torn out.
+	-- Murphy's Rule of the Term Paper
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+    <B>Malo</B> 
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+<PRE>On 08/03/12 14:17, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello!
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+</I>&gt;<i> I can't build plt in our BS. There are files named &quot;%something&quot; how to pass with
+</I>&gt;<i> this package that block?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Submission errors, aborting:
+</I>&gt;<i> - plt-mzscheme-4.2.4-2.mga2.i586:
+</I>&gt;<i>  - unexpanded-macro /usr/lib/plt/collects/srfi/%3a18.ss %3a18
+</I>
+You need to add an exception to rpmlint-mageia-policy.
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+    <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 15:02, Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 08/03/2012 14:38, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And for /var/www/html
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This should really be a server-neutral thing (with a better name for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the user, like www-data) but I never took the time to do it :(
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is needed exactly by various web servers ? I really doubt anything else
+</I>&gt;<i> as apache requires apache configuration file. And if it is just a
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/www/html directory, there is no use to have a dependency for something
+</I>&gt;<i> any sysadmin is able to create himself.
+</I>
+It helps when it works out of the box. A user may not be aware, at
+first, that a /var/www/html has to be created + an index.html file put
+in it, to see its Web server work. It's a good default behaviour
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 14:57, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 15:02, Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 08/03/2012 14:38, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And for /var/www/html
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This should really be a server-neutral thing (with a better name for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the user, like www-data) but I never took the time to do it :(
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What is needed exactly by various web servers ? I really doubt anything else
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as apache requires apache configuration file. And if it is just a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /var/www/html directory, there is no use to have a dependency for something
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> any sysadmin is able to create himself.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It helps when it works out of the box. A user may not be aware, at
+</I>&gt;<i> first, that a /var/www/html has to be created + an index.html file put
+</I>&gt;<i> in it, to see its Web server work. It's a good default behaviour
+</I>&gt;<i> confirming the install succeeded and that the server works, it saves a
+</I>&gt;<i> few seconds to everyone trying/doing it first.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, maybe each web server package should check if this /var/www/html
+</I>&gt;<i> directory exists and create it if needed (or have /var/www/apache,
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/www/lighttpd, etc.)? Or should that be better handled by a
+</I>&gt;<i> separate unique package?
+</I>
+I would prefer a package providing a web user and a default webroot.
+Else we can have such shared user created in each of the packages...
+It would be annoying to have to chown the writable directories when
+switching between servers.
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+<PRE>On 08.03.2012 15:57, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> It helps when it works out of the box.
+</I>+1
+&gt;<i> A user may not be aware, at
+</I>&gt;<i> first, that a /var/www/html has to be created + an index.html file put
+</I>&gt;<i> in it, to see its Web server work. It's a good default behaviour
+</I>&gt;<i> confirming the install succeeded and that the server works, it saves a
+</I>&gt;<i> few seconds to everyone trying/doing it first.
+</I>It can save hours to less experienced users (who just wonder why there 
+isn't &quot;it works&quot; page in Mageia).
+&gt;<i> Now, maybe each web server package should check if this /var/www/html
+</I>&gt;<i> directory exists and create it if needed (or have /var/www/apache,
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/www/lighttpd, etc.)?
+</I>It will be easier to maintain just one single package and add one common 
+requirement then syncing different http services.
+&gt;<i> Or should that be better handled by a
+</I>&gt;<i> separate unique package?
+</I>+1
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+    <B>Liam R E Quin</B> 
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+&gt;<i> So if we switch to mingetty in <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at .service</A> we'll be sacrificing
+</I>&gt;<i> serial console support.
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+Web hosting companies sometimes provide access to a serial console.
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+&gt;<i> PS I'm aware of some &quot;strange&quot; behaviour on the current gettys. When on
+</I>&gt;<i> a getty you can use the cursor keys and move the cursor around. Keys
+</I>&gt;<i> such as backspace don't seem to work if you mistype your username or
+</I>&gt;<i> password
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+In &quot;Mageia Release 1&quot; (and Mandriva) backspace does work, but cursor
+keys will just insert esc [ A or whatever, with the ESC printed as ^[.
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+BSD systems did this from 4.1 or maybe earlier (1980 or so), except it
+was DEL rather than BS to erase a character.  Version 7 Unix had # and @
+as erase character and back-to-start-of-word, not the DEC-style del and
+^u.
+
+But maybe that's going back further than you meant ;-)
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+-- 
+Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, <A HREF="http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/">http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/</A>
+Pictures from old books: <A HREF="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</A>
+The barefoot programmer
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+<PRE>Le 08/03/2012 16:13, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 14:57, Romain d'Alverny&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 15:02, Guillaume Rousse&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 08/03/2012 14:38, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And for /var/www/html
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This should really be a server-neutral thing (with a better name for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the user, like www-data) but I never took the time to do it :(
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What is needed exactly by various web servers ? I really doubt anything else
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> as apache requires apache configuration file. And if it is just a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /var/www/html directory, there is no use to have a dependency for something
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> any sysadmin is able to create himself.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It helps when it works out of the box. A user may not be aware, at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> first, that a /var/www/html has to be created + an index.html file put
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in it, to see its Web server work. It's a good default behaviour
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> confirming the install succeeded and that the server works, it saves a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> few seconds to everyone trying/doing it first.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now, maybe each web server package should check if this /var/www/html
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> directory exists and create it if needed (or have /var/www/apache,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /var/www/lighttpd, etc.)? Or should that be better handled by a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> separate unique package?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would prefer a package providing a web user and a default webroot.
+</I>&gt;<i> Else we can have such shared user created in each of the packages...
+</I>&gt;<i> It would be annoying to have to chown the writable directories when
+</I>&gt;<i> switching between servers.
+</I>Fine with me.
+
+Unfortunatly, it's a bit late in the release process the change the 
+'apache' user name to a more neutral 'www-user' :/
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 08/03/2012 15:57, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> It helps when it works out of the box. A user may not be aware, at
+</I>&gt;<i> first, that a /var/www/html has to be created + an index.html file put
+</I>&gt;<i> in it, to see its Web server work. It's a good default behaviour
+</I>&gt;<i> confirming the install succeeded and that the server works, it saves a
+</I>&gt;<i> few seconds to everyone trying/doing it first.
+</I>My point was just 'if only a directory is needed, just add it to 
+basesystem, and don't create another package just for this'.
+
+-- 
+Every activity takes more time than you have
+		-- Murphy's In Laws n&#176;3
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 08/03/12 14:17, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can't build plt in our BS. There are files named &quot;%something&quot; how to pass with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this package that block?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Submission errors, aborting:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - plt-mzscheme-4.2.4-2.mga2.i586:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   - unexpanded-macro /usr/lib/plt/collects/srfi/%3a18.ss %3a18
+</I>&gt;<i> You need to add an exception to rpmlint-mageia-policy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Thank you, there was a need to edit one of the sources from 
+rpmlint-mageia-policy.
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+    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 08 mars 2012 &#224; 10:38 -0500, Liam R E Quin a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 14:17 +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So if we switch to mingetty in <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at .service</A> we'll be sacrificing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; serial console support.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Web hosting companies sometimes provide access to a serial console.
+</I>
+Then I guess they can also take the step of installing agetty or mgetty
+and configure it, since they have to configure it anyway. So we are just
+adding 1 rpm to install, documented to in the man pages ( and the rest
+of the web ).
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+    <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thursday 08 March 2012 15:33, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; Then you're also sacrificing a few braille users. (e.g. blind users.)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you give more details on this?
+</I>
+Some braille devices use the serial port in order to operate.
+How they communicate I don't really know.
+
+A blind friend of mine use serial console's when he cannot access the machine via network, during installation and when he cannot acess a system over the network for some reason, and brltty is not installed on it.
+I also believe some admins access servers which do not have a screen attached to it using serial console, and they can't or don't want to access it over the network. (A mailserver I used to maintain, had serial console access as requirement from the management.)
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+If we are in the posistion to be able to chose between having serial console access or not, and it's not a big change in code, configuration and what not, my vote is to keep serial console access.
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 08:22, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 7, 2012 at 03:12, Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, here it is:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120307030202.fwang.valstar.13118/log/kdenetwork4-4.8.1-1.mga2/install_deps-2.0.20120307030203.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120307030202.fwang.valstar.13118/log/kdenetwork4-4.8.1-1.mga2/install_deps-2.0.20120307030203.log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks, I uploaded the missing packages.
+</I>&gt;<i> It is the exact bug that should have been fixed by my change yesterday :(
+</I>
+This time, it should really be fixed.
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+    <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> 
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+&gt;<i> My point was just 'if only a directory is needed, just add it to basesystem,
+</I>&gt;<i> and don't create another package just for this'.
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+    <B>Malo</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 16:48, Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My point was just 'if only a directory is needed, just add it to basesystem,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and don't create another package just for this'.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Ah, yes. Why not too. It doesn't take much room.
+</I>+1
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+And what about user?
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+lighttpd uses apache user, no?
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+</I>&gt;<i> difference. With nokmsboot I get the mageia splash screen for a second
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+Probably best to open a bug report then.  My guess is that it needs
+a firmware file, but I have no idea which one.
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+    <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B> 
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+&gt;<i> considering <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4724">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4724</A> and that it's likely
+</I>&gt;<i> not working in cauldron for months, and also considering it's beyond our perl
+</I>&gt;<i> guru jq and our drakx-guru tv, and considering it looks like google didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> help... and considering there's 4 or 5 text-installer bugs i wanted to test
+</I>&gt;<i> out...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> perhaps we should consider in fact that text installer does not work...
+</I>&gt;<i> after all, if we get this fixed, there's still the other text-installer bugs...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe it's premature for me, but considering this is version freeze... we're
+</I>&gt;<i> getting closer to the end...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> WDYT?
+</I>
+This made me think of systems managed through IPMI or ALOM (yup, that
+later is only a Sun thing, but to get the idea...), and I don't think this
+interfaces are capabe of VGA graphics.
+That is not a big deal, but it forces you to attach a monitor to the VGA
+to install.
+
+BTW, will the text installer ever work through IMPI ? Is it even possible
+that kinkd of install ?
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+-- 
+J.A. Magallon &lt;jamagallon()ono!com&gt;        \               Winter is coming...
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Malo at 08/03/12 17:22 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 08/03/12 17:19, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 16:48, Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> My point was just 'if only a directory is needed, just add it to basesystem,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and don't create another package just for this'.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ah, yes. Why not too. It doesn't take much room.
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And what about user?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> lighttpd uses apache user, no?
+</I>
+Yeah. It would be better if the user was www or similar rather than
+apache, but that will be a bit of a pita to change.
+
+But I'd suggest a common package here to deal with the creation of the
+user, folder and default index page.
+
+Col
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 08 mars 2012 &#224; 10:38 -0500, Liam R E Quin a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 14:17 +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So if we switch to mingetty in <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at .service</A> we'll be sacrificing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> serial console support.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Web hosting companies sometimes provide access to a serial console.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Then I guess they can also take the step of installing agetty or mgetty
+</I>&gt;<i> and configure it, since they have to configure it anyway. So we are just
+</I>&gt;<i> adding 1 rpm to install, documented to in the man pages ( and the rest
+</I>&gt;<i> of the web ).
+</I>
+Well I'm pretty sure the configuration is very minimal with systemd
+right now. Just a simply a matter of creating a <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at ttys1.service</A>
+symlink or similar. If we patch the systemd to use mingetty, they'll
+maybe follow upstream docs and do this only to have it fail which is not
+goot.
+
+Of course we should perhaps not change <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at .service</A>, but rather write
+a new <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mingetty at .service</A> and link <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">autovt at .service</A> to that instead but
+we'll also have to patch prefdm.service too to ensure the appropriate
+conflicts are updated.
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+While this is totally possible, I've not seen any arguments in favour of
+mingetty. I believe agetty is lighter weight and uses less memory.
+
+Any actual arguments to specifically use mingetty?
+
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+Col
+
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 07/03/12 09:26 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Unless someone comes along and does a reasonable amount of coding before
+</I>&gt;<i> mga2, I think we'll have to deprecate supporting startx (it can still be
+</I>&gt;<i> used in some circumstances, but audio and accelerated graphics will not
+</I>&gt;<i> be available).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> See this comment (and the link therein) for more info on the issue:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4652#c9</A>
+</I>
+OK, so there is some good news on this issue.
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+After discussing this upstream and poking some Fedora folks, they came
+up with a very simple and nice way of keeping 95% of the startx behaviour.
+
+Simply patch it to use the argument -novtswitch when starting X
+
+This would basically &quot;temporarily convert&quot; the text session to a
+graphical one. There will be a couple of quirks but at least all devices
+and such will work as before.
+
+There are some drawbacks. Running startx over ssh will not work, but
+then it wasn't ever officially supported anyway and was full of quirks.
+I believe this will be detected and specifically disabled now.
+
+Also you won't be able to &quot;switch back&quot; to the text console and look at
+the output from the X server. This is easily enough worked around
+however (&quot;startx &gt;x.log 2&gt;&amp;1&quot; then just look at the x.log inside X or a
+second text terminal).
+
+If no one has a problem, I'll look to include the patch.
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Web hosting companies sometimes provide access to a serial console.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Then I guess they can also take the step of installing agetty or mgetty
+</I>&gt;<i> and configure it, since they have to configure it anyway. 
+</I>
+This is not a good argument. You're more likely to find debian, centos,
+fedora used by web hosting companies than Mageia, partly because Mageia
+is new.  Putting up obstacles isn't a good way to get adoption.
+
+But maybe a wiki page or a forum thread or even this email thread would
+be enough.
+
+-- 
+Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, <A HREF="http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/">http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/</A>
+Pictures from old books: <A HREF="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</A>
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+<PRE>On 03/08/2012 03:17 PM, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since switching to systemd, the mingetty we used to default to in
+</I>&gt;<i> inittab has been replaced by agetty (the default choice upstream).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The question is should we switch it back to mingetty?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Lookin other things I also looked at agetty manual, and found a couple
+useful things:
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+o      Optionally displays an alternative issue file instead of /etc/issue.
+
+o      Optionally does not ask for a login name.
+
+o      Optionally invokes a non-standard login program instead of /bin/login.
+
+This looks ideal for the case where prefdm fails and you want to show
+a big barner about it on tty1, or even drop the user direcly into
+drakx text mode without any login. Perhaps it can be done in prefdm
+if launching DISPLAYMANAGER fails.
+
+So, if space or memory is not an issue, I will go for agetty in both
+systemd and inittab.
+
+&gt;<i> An argument against mingetty is that the current support in systemd will
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically work over serial consoles. With embedded systems and such
+</I>&gt;<i> more common these days, this might actually be a common situation (for
+</I>&gt;<i> very small values of &quot;common&quot; of course!).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> From the man page of mingetty:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mingetty is a minimal  getty  for  use  on  virtual  consoles.   Unlike
+</I>&gt;<i> agetty(8),  mingetty  is  not  suitable  for serial lines.  I recommend
+</I>&gt;<i> using mgetty(8) for this purpose.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So if we switch to mingetty in <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">getty at .service</A> we'll be sacrificing
+</I>&gt;<i> serial console support.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Have people got strong opinions on this? Can anyone remember why we
+</I>&gt;<i> ended up defaulting to mingetty in the first place?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> PS I'm aware of some &quot;strange&quot; behaviour on the current gettys. When on
+</I>&gt;<i> a getty you can use the cursor keys and move the cursor around. Keys
+</I>&gt;<i> such as backspace don't seem to work if you mistype your username or
+</I>&gt;<i> password (I'm pretty sure this used to work, but maybe I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> misremembering?). This is slightly improved with mingetty - in that the
+</I>&gt;<i> cursor keys don't move the text entry area, but they do print
+</I>&gt;<i> non-printable characters that still can't be deleted. I'll try and make
+</I>&gt;<i> this nicer, but it's probably not the highest priority problem on my list :p
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 07 March 2012 21:34, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+&gt;<i> perhaps we should consider in fact that text installer does not work...
+</I>
+As long as it is not removed all together in the future.
+
+My blind friend cannot use our GUI installer, so he is forced to use the text installer. The only GUI installer he's managed to get working is the Ubuntu installer, because it is a Gnome installer which use orca. (Maybe he's using the live-part of the Ubuntu CD/DVD to do it.)
+It is not so much that it's not working as it is the braille doesn't see it, hence he can't see it.
+He says that a distro which does not have a text installer is not a system he's willing to use. 
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+If we deprecate and remove the abillity to use a text installer, we are effectlively blocking blind users from beeing able to install the system.
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+    <B>Liam R E Quin</B> 
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+&gt;<i> If we deprecate and remove the abillity to use a text installer, we
+</I>&gt;<i> are effectlively blocking blind users from beeing able to install the
+</I>&gt;<i> system.
+</I>
+The reason that I first started using Mandrake Linux years ago was that
+it was the first whose installer ran to completion out of 6 I tried, and
+which was neither red hat nor debian.
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+There were problems with the default X configuration on that system; I
+always had to use &quot;startx&quot; on it, too, for that matter.
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+One place where Linux-based systems do well is in catering to minority
+needs, not just the 70%. Languages (e.g. Icelandic or Welsh), unusual or
+older hardware, and people with individual needs, all can be included.
+
+Liam
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+-- 
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 2012-03-09 at 04:11 +0100, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If we deprecate and remove the abillity to use a text installer, we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; are effectlively blocking blind users from beeing able to install the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; system.
+</I>[..]
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+I know how you guys feel, but the fact is that we're at beta1 and it's not 
+working and it doesn't seem to be a simple problem...
+
+we're trying to fix it, but it doesn't seem good atm: 
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4724">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4724</A>
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+at the moment the Bootloader shows &quot;Boot Mageia 2 (Cauldron)&quot;, this 
+should be changed before the release to &quot;Boot Mageia 2&quot; with enough time 
+for i18n to fix the translations and the installer to be rebuilt before 
+the final isos are built.
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+This is just a reminder so this won't be forgotten.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> at the moment the Bootloader shows &quot;Boot Mageia 2 (Cauldron)&quot;, this should
+</I>&gt;<i> be changed before the release to &quot;Boot Mageia 2&quot; with enough time for i18n
+</I>&gt;<i> to fix the translations and the installer to be rebuilt before the final
+</I>&gt;<i> isos are built.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is just a reminder so this won't be forgotten.
+</I>
+We should _always_ have 2 strings:
+- &quot;Boot Mageia %s&quot;
+- &quot;Boot Mageia %s (%s)&quot;
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+Translated once for ever.
+No harcoded version, no hardcoded product version
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+<PRE>Am 09.03.2012 08:33, schrieb Thierry Vignaud:
+&gt;<i> On 9 March 2012 08:30, Oliver Burger&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> at the moment the Bootloader shows &quot;Boot Mageia 2 (Cauldron)&quot;, this should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be changed before the release to &quot;Boot Mageia 2&quot; with enough time for i18n
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to fix the translations and the installer to be rebuilt before the final
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> isos are built.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is just a reminder so this won't be forgotten.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We should _always_ have 2 strings:
+</I>&gt;<i> - &quot;Boot Mageia %s&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> - &quot;Boot Mageia %s (%s)&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Translated once for ever.
+</I>&gt;<i> No harcoded version, no hardcoded product version
+</I>
+I was suggesting this to Damien, but the question is, do languages not 
+using latin letters keep the arabic number &quot;2&quot; and the word &quot;Cauldron&quot; 
+here? Or do they replace it with a number and a word in their alphabet?
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+Oliver
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+&gt;&gt;<i> We should _always_ have 2 strings:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - &quot;Boot Mageia %s&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - &quot;Boot Mageia %s (%s)&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Translated once for ever.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No harcoded version, no hardcoded product version
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was suggesting this to Damien, but the question is, do languages not using
+</I>&gt;<i> latin letters keep the arabic number &quot;2&quot; and the word &quot;Cauldron&quot; here? Or do
+</I>&gt;<i> they replace it with a number and a word in their alphabet?
+</I>
+That's not an issue, the argument would be another translated string
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+<PRE>Le 09/03/2012 05:59, fwang a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Name        : vlc                          Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version     : 2.0.0                             Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> fwang&lt;fwang&gt;  2.0.0-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 221926
+</I>&gt;<i> - requires live for rtsp
+</I>&gt;<i> - rebuild for new live
+</I>
+Le 09/03/2012 08:08, fwang a &#233;crit :
+ &gt; Name        : live                         Relocations: (not relocatable)
+ &gt; Version     : 2012.02.29                        Vendor: Mageia.Org
+[...]
+ &gt;
+ &gt; fwang&lt;fwang&gt;  2012.02.29-2.mga2:
+ &gt; + Revision: 221944
+ &gt; - use standard install prefix
+
+FYI, mdv (goetz) has a patch to build vlc using live555's initial location.
+<A HREF="http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/vlc/current/SOURCES/vlc-2.0.0-live555-path.patch?view=markup">http://svn.mandriva.com/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/packages/cooker/vlc/current/SOURCES/vlc-2.0.0-live555-path.patch?view=markup</A>
+
+regards,
+Luc
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+-- 
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+    <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B> 
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+there):
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+Some requested packages cannot be installed:
+nvidia-cuda-toolkit-4.1.28-1.mga2.nonfree.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied libcuda.so.1()(64bit))
+nvidia-cuda-toolkit-devel-4.1.28-1.mga2.nonfree.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied libcuda.so.1)
+Continue installation anyway? (Y/n)
+
+werewolf:~# rpm -qf /usr/lib64/nvidia-current/libcuda.so.1
+nvidia-current-cuda-opencl-295.20-2.mga2.nonfree
+werewolf:~# rpm -q --provides nvidia-current-cuda-opencl
+nvidia-current-cuda = 295.20-2.mga2.nonfree
+nvidia-current-cuda-opencl = 295.20-2.mga2.nonfree
+nvidia-current-cuda-opencl(x86-64) = 295.20-2.mga2.nonfree
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+J.A. Magallon &lt;jamagallon()ono!com&gt;        \               Winter is coming...
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Revision 3279 Author obgr_seneca Date 2012-03-08 20:57:33 +0100 (Thu, 08 Mar
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012)
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+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
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+</I>&gt;<i> fixed the pot file so it passes msgfmt
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified Paths
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm/urpmi/trunk/po/urpmi.pot
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified: rpm/urpmi/trunk/po/urpmi.pot
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- rpm/urpmi/trunk/po/urpmi.pot	2012-03-08 19:22:19 UTC (rev 3278)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ rpm/urpmi/trunk/po/urpmi.pot	2012-03-08 19:57:33 UTC (rev 3279)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -2,18 +2,16 @@
+</I>&gt;<i>  # Copyright (C) YEAR Free Software Foundation, Inc.
+</I>&gt;<i>  # FIRST AUTHOR &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">EMAIL at ADDRESS</A>&gt;, YEAR.
+</I>&gt;<i>  #
+</I>&gt;<i> -#, fuzzy
+</I>&gt;<i>  msgid &quot;&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>  msgstr &quot;&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> -&quot;Project-Id-Version: PACKAGE VERSION\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> +&quot;Project-Id-Version: urpmi\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &quot;POT-Creation-Date: 2012-02-27 21:09+0100\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &quot;PO-Revision-Date: YEAR-MO-DA HO:MI+ZONE\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &quot;Last-Translator: FULL NAME &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">EMAIL at ADDRESS</A>&gt;\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &quot;Language-Team: LANGUAGE &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">LL at li.org</A>&gt;\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &quot;MIME-Version: 1.0\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> -&quot;Content-Type: text/plain; charset=CHARSET\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> +&quot;Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &quot;Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8-bit\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> -&quot;Plural-Forms: nplurals=INTEGER; plural=EXPRESSION;\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>  #: ../gurpmi:32
+</I>&gt;<i>  #, c-format
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Again, this is wrong.
+What's more it's an autogenerated file so this will be overwritten.
+Please stop that.
+This header is meant to be filled in &amp; unfuzzied when copied on
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update">anssi at mageia.org
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+<PRE>09.03.2012 10:42, JA Magall&#243;n kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> It looks like some package does not provide libcuda (the library itself is
+</I>&gt;<i> there):
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Some requested packages cannot be installed:
+</I>&gt;<i> nvidia-cuda-toolkit-4.1.28-1.mga2.nonfree.x86_64 (due to unsatisfied
+</I>&gt;<i> libcuda.so.1()(64bit))
+</I>&gt;<i> nvidia-cuda-toolkit-devel-4.1.28-1.mga2.nonfree.x86_64 (due to
+</I>&gt;<i> unsatisfied libcuda.so.1)
+</I>&gt;<i> Continue installation anyway? (Y/n)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> werewolf:~# rpm -qf /usr/lib64/nvidia-current/libcuda.so.1
+</I>&gt;<i> nvidia-current-cuda-opencl-295.20-2.mga2.nonfree
+</I>&gt;<i> werewolf:~# rpm -q --provides nvidia-current-cuda-opencl
+</I>&gt;<i> nvidia-current-cuda = 295.20-2.mga2.nonfree
+</I>&gt;<i> nvidia-current-cuda-opencl = 295.20-2.mga2.nonfree
+</I>&gt;<i> nvidia-current-cuda-opencl(x86-64) = 295.20-2.mga2.nonfree
+</I>
+Yeah, library provides are excluded on purpose in the proprietary driver
+packages, to avoid any &quot;unrelated&quot; packages to depend on them.
+
+Not sure if libcuda.so.1 should be an exception or not, it is again
+quite a special case...
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+In any case, nvidia-cuda-toolkit already contains:
+%define _requires_exceptions libcuda.so.1\\|python(abi)
+
+My first guess would be that it doesn't work since it is in the middle
+of the package definition, and it should be either moved to the
+beginning of the .spec file or made %global. Alternatively something has
+been broken in rpm-mageia-setup-build.
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and JA Magall&#243;n at 09/03/12 01:40 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 03/08/2012 03:17 PM, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Since switching to systemd, the mingetty we used to default to in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> inittab has been replaced by agetty (the default choice upstream).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The question is should we switch it back to mingetty?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Lookin other things I also looked at agetty manual, and found a couple
+</I>&gt;<i> useful things:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> o      Optionally displays an alternative issue file instead of /etc/issue.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> o      Optionally does not ask for a login name.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> o      Optionally invokes a non-standard login program instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> /bin/login.
+</I>
+To play devils advocate (I would personally prefer to just use agetty!),
+mingetty does support at least the second two as well.
+
+&gt;<i> This looks ideal for the case where prefdm fails and you want to show
+</I>&gt;<i> a big barner about it on tty1, or even drop the user direcly into
+</I>&gt;<i> drakx text mode without any login. Perhaps it can be done in prefdm
+</I>&gt;<i> if launching DISPLAYMANAGER fails.
+</I>
+See the latest initscripts+systemd package. This is exactly what I've
+done! Great minds think alike I'd say! (tho' I'm using mingetty for now
+- partly because I wanted to play with it - I do intend to use agetty
+instead however)
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+&gt;<i> So, if space or memory is not an issue, I will go for agetty in both
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd and inittab.
+</I>
+I'm not sure how much of a space saving it is, as the mingetty package
+is only 34k. But every little helps :)
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+And while it does use more memory, I'm not sure anyone would
+particularly lose all that much sleep over it (I think my previous
+argument was a little weak!) :D
+
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+Can someone remove obsolete packages from core/updates_testing?
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; If we deprecate and remove the abillity to use a text installer, we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; are effectlively blocking blind users from beeing able to install the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know how you guys feel, but the fact is that we're at beta1 and it's not
+</I>&gt;<i> working and it doesn't seem to be a simple problem...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we're trying to fix it, but it doesn't seem good atm:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4724">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4724</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> and if it's not working, we shouldn't advertise it
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+You lie.
+It's working perfectly.
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 09 maart 2012 04:29:39 schreef Liam R E Quin:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 2012-03-09 at 04:11 +0100, Johnny A. Solbu wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; If we deprecate and remove the abillity to use a text installer, we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; are effectlively blocking blind users from beeing able to install the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; system.
+</I>&gt;<i> [..]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know how you guys feel, but the fact is that we're at beta1 and it's not
+</I>&gt;<i> working and it doesn't seem to be a simple problem...
+</I>
+Well that's why we have plenty of time until rc, to stop working on
+updating things and spend plenty of time fixing bugs :)
+
+&gt;<i> we're trying to fix it, but it doesn't seem good atm:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4724">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4724</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and if it's not working, we shouldn't advertise it
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+    <B>Barry Jackson</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 02 mars 2012 &#224; 23:46 +0000, Barry Jackson a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have been working on oce, but need help deciding on where to put it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and with what license.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oce is the OPENCascade Community Edition.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Earlier versions are/were packaged by Mdv and Fedora, and recently Deb
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> has included it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It seems from OPENCascade's own license literature to be LGPL-like with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> differences. (but rpmlint is not happy with that).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Fedora consider it non-free, but since all the source is available and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> redistributable I don't know why, so ignore my comment on line 1 of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> spec.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There are links in the spec to license references.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458974">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=458974</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ( notably the comment from #10 ). I would push this to non-free, because
+</I>&gt;<i> that would be a problem for a company.
+</I>
+It also has a single tainted BuildRequire on pkgconfig(glw).
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+&gt;<i> On 9 March 2012 07:42, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If we deprecate and remove the abillity to use a text installer, we
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> are effectlively blocking blind users from beeing able to install the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I know how you guys feel, but the fact is that we're at beta1 and it's not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> working and it doesn't seem to be a simple problem...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we're trying to fix it, but it doesn't seem good atm:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4724">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4724</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and if it's not working, we shouldn't advertise it
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> You lie.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's working perfectly.
+</I>
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 09 maart 2012 14:29:42 schreef Thierry Vignaud:
+&gt;<i> On 9 March 2012 07:42, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; If we deprecate and remove the abillity to use a text installer, we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; are effectlively blocking blind users from beeing able to install the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; system.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I know how you guys feel, but the fact is that we're at beta1 and it's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; not working and it doesn't seem to be a simple problem...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; we're trying to fix it, but it doesn't seem good atm:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4724">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4724</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and if it's not working, we shouldn't advertise it
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> You lie.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's working perfectly.
+</I>
+ah, you fixed it? thanks alot, i'll go test immediately
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+</I>&gt;<i> ah, you fixed it? thanks alot, i'll go test immediately
+</I>
+No, I mean you're all lyers :-)
+More seriously, on x86_64 you 'll need the 48132096 bytes
+install/stage2/mdkinst.sqfs file from Mar  9 2012 13:22
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 09 maart 2012 17:42:33 schreef Thierry Vignaud:
+&gt;<i> On 9 March 2012 17:29, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ah, you fixed it? thanks alot, i'll go test immediately
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> No, I mean you're all lyers :-)
+</I>
+you mean liars?
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+&gt;<i> More seriously, on x86_64 you 'll need the 48132096 bytes
+</I>&gt;<i> install/stage2/mdkinst.sqfs file from Mar  9 2012 13:22
+</I>&gt;<i> (different size on i586 of course)
+</I>
+yeah i already confirmed it slightly working, there's still a curses bug i 
+presume see the bug report
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+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can someone remove obsolete packages from core/updates_testing?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - *1-1.7.2-1.mga2* (subversion is newer in core release)
+</I>&gt;<i> - libbdevid-python-* (ditto)
+</I>
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+Core updates_testing is now cleaned .
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+<PRE><A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> skrev 8.3.2012 02:18:
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> I just tried Mageia 2 beta 1 on a Intel DN2800MT board hoping that it
+</I>&gt;<i> would have framebuffer support for the GMA 3600, but the attached
+</I>&gt;<i> monitor goes into standby (no signal) as soon as the frame buffer gets
+</I>&gt;<i> activated during boot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As far as I understand there is frame buffer support in the 3.3 kernel
+</I>&gt;<i> for the GMA 3600 so in theory it should work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Are you aware of this issue or should I do a bug report?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes.
+
+There is a bug with Cedar Trail that got fixed upstream a few days after
+3.3-rc6 was released, so the fix is not in our current 
+kernel-3.3.0-0.rc6.1.mga2, but it will be fixed in the next build.
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+&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> The Open Ticket Request System (<A HREF="http://otrs.org/">http://otrs.org/</A>) is a web based ticket system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Feedback: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">feedback at otrs.org</A>
+</I>
+This has nothing to do in %description
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+&gt;<i> &#160;OTRS is an Open source Ticket Request System with many features to manage
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;customer telephone calls and e-mails. It is distributed under the GNU
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;AFFERO General Public License (AGPL) and tested on Linux, Solaris, AIX,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;FreeBSD, OpenBSD and Mac OS 10.x. Do you receive many e-mails and want to
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;answer them with a team of agents? You're going to love the OTRS!
+</I>
+%description should stop right here
+
+&gt;<i> &#160;Feature list:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; Web-Interface:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Agent web interface for viewing and working on all customer requests
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Admin web interface for changing system things
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Customer web interface for viewing and sending infos to the agents
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Webinterface with themes support
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Multi language support (Brazilian Portuguese, Bulgarian, Dutch, English,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; Finnish, French, German, Italian and Spanish)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- customize the output templates (dtl) release independently
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Webinterface with attachment support
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- easy and logical to use
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; Email-Interface:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- PGP support
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- SMIME support
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- MIME support (attachments)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- dispatching of incoming email via email addess or x-header
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- autoresponders for customers by incoming emails (per queue)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- email-notification to the agent by new tickets, follow ups or lock timeouts
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; Ticket:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- custom queue view and queue view of all requests
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Ticket locking
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Ticket replies (standard responses)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Ticket autoresponders per queue
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Ticket history, evolution of ticket status and actions taken on ticket
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- abaility to add notes (with different note types) to a ticket
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Ticket zoom feature
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Tickets can be bounced or forwarded to other email addresses
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Ticket can be moved to a different queue (this is helpful if emails are
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; for a specific subject)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Ticket priority
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Ticket time accounting
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Ticket merge feature
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Ticket ACL support
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- content Fulltext search
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; System:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- creation and configuration of user accounts, and groups
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- creation of standard responses
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Signature configuration per queue
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Salutation configuration per queue
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- email-notification of administrators
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- email-notification sent to problem reporter (by create, locked, deleted,
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; moved and closed)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- submitting update-info (via email or webinterface).
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- deadlines for trouble tickets
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- ASP (activ service providing) support
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- TicketHook free setable like 'Call#', 'MyTicket#', 'Request#' or 'Ticket#'
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- Ticket number format free setable
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- different levels of permissions/access-rights.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- central database, Support of different SQL databases (e. g. MySQL, PostgeSQL, ...)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- user authentication agains database or ldap directory
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- easy to develope you own addon's (OTRS API)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- easy to write different frontends (e. g. X11, console, ...)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- own package manager (e. g. for application modules like webmail, calendar or
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; filemanager)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- a fast and usefull application
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> skrev 8.3.2012 02:18:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I just tried Mageia 2 beta 1 on a Intel DN2800MT board hoping that it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; would have framebuffer support for the GMA 3600, but the attached
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; monitor goes into standby (no signal) as soon as the frame buffer gets
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; activated during boot.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As far as I understand there is frame buffer support in the 3.3 kernel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for the GMA 3600 so in theory it should work.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Are you aware of this issue or should I do a bug report?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> There is a bug with Cedar Trail that got fixed upstream a few days after
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.3-rc6 was released, so the fix is not in our current 
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel-3.3.0-0.rc6.1.mga2, but it will be fixed in the next build.
+</I>
+Thanks, that's great, I will test the next build and then report back 
+how that works with my Cedar Trail board.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> yeah i already confirmed it slightly working, there's still a curses bug i
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 9 March 2012 19:44, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; yeah i already confirmed it slightly working, there's still a curses bug
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i presume see the bug report
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> You shouldn't have mixed this with that bug report.
+</I>&gt;<i> (btw this looks like a virtuabl bios issue imho)
+</I>
+oh, sorry, i'll try it out on a real machine tomorrow.
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+allthough, the pictures i have from the text installer from mga1 didn't have 
+this, and the vbox host and version is still the same...
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+</I>&gt;<i> like kdm, even xdm :)]
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>Ah, I feel less alone (well, Pentium 166 MMX for my side.
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+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 9 mars 2012 23:56:28, eatdirt a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [got another reason for startx, my pentium 133MHz running mga.1 does not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; like kdm, even xdm :)]
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Ah, I feel less alone (well, Pentium 166 MMX for my side.
+</I>
+I have a pentium 66MHz (not MMX)
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> colin &lt;colin&gt; 2-0.5.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 222352
+</I>&gt;<i> - Flesh out os-release as per upstream docs.
+</I>
+Please add bug reference and close the BR:
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+&gt;<i> 06.03.2012 21:48, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hiya
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I noticed while doing the updates round that the file
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; /etc/init.d/lvm2-monitor had a .rpmnew... Thus is seems to be marked as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; a config file. Is this correct? Most initscripts are not meant to be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; configured... is this the exception that proves the rule?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Doesn't look like configurable.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I have many times seen random non-config files marked as
+</I>&gt;<i> %config(noreplace) in very old .specs just because they are in /etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> This instance also predates mdv SVN migration (unfortunately their CVS
+</I>&gt;<i> has been brought down).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> (maybe rpmlint wrongly warned about them many many years ago, causing
+</I>&gt;<i> people to add unwanted %config flags...)
+</I>
+That's it. 
+
+And that's something that always bothered me on a fundamental level, if
+that's not config, it should not be in /etc/, as this gave likely wrong
+expectation to people ( ie, that they could safely hack around
+initscripts and have no problem on upgrade ). The systemd approach with
+inheritance is much cleaner on this regard.
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+&gt;<i> Le 08/03/2012 15:18, Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was quite sure that Mageia would keep the usability bit that Mandriva
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> had. But with our current direction Gentoo is soon easier to use for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> non-developer/sysadmin user.
+</I>&gt;<i> Gentoo is still too much user-friendly for my taste, I'd rather target LFS :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> C'mon guy, stop the FUD, and write correct user-readable documentation 
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of ressorting to this kind of dirty hacks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+FWIW, we already have documentation about that for quite some time:
+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=36&amp;t=1121">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=36&amp;t=1121</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 10/03/12 09:27 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 10 March 2012 02:25, colin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> colin &lt;colin&gt; 2-0.5.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 222352
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Flesh out os-release as per upstream docs.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Please add bug reference and close the BR:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4528">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4528</A>
+</I>
+Oh, I wasn't aware there was a bug. I was just fixing it because it
+needed fixing.
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 10/03/12 10:10 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> The systemd approach with inheritance is much cleaner on this regard.
+</I>
+Absolutely! The units in etc *are* config/customisation. The ones in
+/lib (or eventually in /usr/lib) are provided by packages. All very
+sensible :)
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+    <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> 
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+<PRE>On Sunday, January 08, 2012 05:07:38 PM Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+&gt;<i> W dniu 08.01.2012 22:04, Luc Menut pisze:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 08/01/2012 21:18, Kamil Rytarowski a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; W dniu 08.01.2012 15:19, Luc Menut pisze:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; if the versionned provides indicates the location, we can use it if
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; necessary in Conflicts or Requires in others packages.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; e.g. currently Firefox searches dictionnaries in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; /usr/share/dict/mozilla (myspell dictionaries). when we change this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; location, we could add a Requires enchant-dictionary = 4.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; same for hunspell-dictionary and dictionary-%{languagecode}, a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; versionned provides could indicate the location of the dictionary.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; if we want to be able to remove easily all the compatibility link in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; the future, we should really consider this.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; If a package requires enchant-dictionary, then language specific will be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; chosen before Aspell. This is the whole idea behind it. (eg. Voikko is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; chosen before hunspell-fi and aspell-fi too).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; OK, I understand the use for enchant-dictionary.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; And I'm against some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; special versioning for directories, we don't really need it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; sorry but I don't agree with you here.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; e.g. in coming days, we will fix firefox (and other mozilla apps) to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; use hunspell-dictionaries; we will update the link to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; /usr/lib64/firefox-9.0.1/dictionaries -&gt; /usr/share/hunspell
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and change the requires to hunspell-dictionary.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but hunspell-dictionaries &quot;old generation&quot; (mga1) provide
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; hunspell-dictionary, and install dictionaries only in /usr/share/myspell.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a technical note:
+</I>&gt;<i> Old Hunspell dictionaries don't provide anything additional. They are
+</I>&gt;<i> just dangling without any special integration with the system, please
+</I>&gt;<i> take a look:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/hunspell-fr/current/SPECS/hunspe">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/hunspell-fr/current/SPECS/hunspe</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ll-fr.spec?revision=134361&amp;view=markup
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> $ urpmq --provides hunspell-nl
+</I>&gt;<i> hunspell-nl[== 2.00-2.mga1]
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> New Hunspell dictionaries obsolete&amp;provide Myspell packages and come
+</I>&gt;<i> into the Myspell place. They also install dictionaries into the same
+</I>&gt;<i> place as the predecessor - this is why I put it into the place of the
+</I>&gt;<i> old enchant-dictionary=2 place.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Gentoo uses common packages for Myspell and Hunspell dictionaries. So
+</I>&gt;<i> this is additional argument to put Hunspell in the place of Myspell.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; how do you plan to handle that the fixed firefox will absolutly need
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; hunspell-dictionaries &quot;new generation&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Fix Mozilla packages (in Mga2) to use new generation dictionaries in
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/hunspell
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and can't work with hunspell-dictionaries &quot;old generation&quot; ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there need for anything needed in addition of just higher
+</I>&gt;<i> version&amp;release of every new generation hunspell-dictionary in Mga2,
+</I>&gt;<i> then the one in Mga1? In Mga2 every hunspell-dictionary will be in the
+</I>&gt;<i> new generation version.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And I think we support Mga1-&gt;Mga2 full migration, so everything will be
+</I>&gt;<i> working.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Am I right?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Luc
+</I>
+Are we making any progress with this. Currenly Hunspell doesn't work in Lyx 
+(error no dictionaries installed and digging through the Hunspell spec file it 
+installs a patch and gives the dictionary path as /usr/share/dict/ooo:
+but there is only a one empty file in that directory called dictionary.lst
+
+Hunspell works on libreoffice.
+
+-- 
+Best regards
+Thomas Spuhler
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+    <B>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen</B> 
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+<PRE>Den 14:15 10. mars 2012 skrev eatdirt &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dirteat at gmail.com</A>&gt; f&#248;lgende:
+&gt;<i> On 10/03/12 10:12, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have a pentium 66MHz (not MMX)
+</I>With a divide by zero bug? :o)
+&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With the turbo button 33 -&gt; 66 ? Man, that's a proper collector :)
+</I>You're confusing with 486. :p
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+Regards,
+Per &#216;yvind
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.">mageia at colin.guthr.ie
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+    <I>Sat Mar 10 17:40:05 CET 2012</I>
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+
+We've used the kernel command line &quot;splash=silent&quot; in the past (as
+opposed to &quot;splash=verbose&quot;) to indicate that we want a splash screen.
+
+Most of the upstream projects just check for &quot;splash&quot; on it's own. The
+absence of the word &quot;splash&quot; means the same as our current &quot;splash=verbose&quot;.
+
+In order to make this work properly we have to patch both upstream
+systemd, initscripts, dracut and plymouth.
+
+As far as I can tell, there is no gain in doing this so I'm intending to
+convert our usage to the upstream defaults. If anyone objects, please
+speak out now!!
+
+
+As a separate issue, kernel debug output is controlled by the &quot;quiet&quot;
+keyword. We don't use this (haven't since 2003) but personally I believe
+it's time to include this. It gives a much smoother and more user
+friendly boot.
+
+So again, unless anyone objects, I'll update the tools to set these two
+keywords together when we boot. (I thought that there used to be a GUI
+tool to choose the theme here and whether it was verbose or silent... I
+can't seem to see it - what am I missing?)
+
+Col
+
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.">ennael at mageia.org
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We've used the kernel command line &quot;splash=silent&quot; in the past (as
+</I>&gt;<i> opposed to &quot;splash=verbose&quot;) to indicate that we want a splash screen.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Most of the upstream projects just check for &quot;splash&quot; on it's own. The
+</I>&gt;<i> absence of the word &quot;splash&quot; means the same as our current
+</I>&quot;splash=verbose&quot;.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In order to make this work properly we have to patch both upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd, initscripts, dracut and plymouth.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As far as I can tell, there is no gain in doing this so I'm intending to
+</I>&gt;<i> convert our usage to the upstream defaults. If anyone objects, please
+</I>&gt;<i> speak out now!!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As a separate issue, kernel debug output is controlled by the &quot;quiet&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> keyword. We don't use this (haven't since 2003) but personally I believe
+</I>&gt;<i> it's time to include this. It gives a much smoother and more user
+</I>&gt;<i> friendly boot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So again, unless anyone objects, I'll update the tools to set these two
+</I>&gt;<i> keywords together when we boot. (I thought that there used to be a GUI
+</I>&gt;<i> tool to choose the theme here and whether it was verbose or silent... I
+</I>&gt;<i> can't seem to see it - what am I missing?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Unless it's all done tonight please wait after beta 2
+
+&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> colin(at)mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Day Job:
+</I>&gt;<i>  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Open Source:
+</I>&gt;<i>  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> We've used the kernel command line &quot;splash=silent&quot; in the past (as
+</I>&gt;<i> opposed to &quot;splash=verbose&quot;) to indicate that we want a splash screen.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Most of the upstream projects just check for &quot;splash&quot; on it's own. The
+</I>&gt;<i> absence of the word &quot;splash&quot; means the same as our current &quot;splash=verbose&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In order to make this work properly we have to patch both upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd, initscripts, dracut and plymouth.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As far as I can tell, there is no gain in doing this so I'm intending to
+</I>&gt;<i> convert our usage to the upstream defaults. If anyone objects, please
+</I>&gt;<i> speak out now!!
+</I>
+just make sure upgrade is done smoothly (s/splash=verbose/splash/
+and /splash=quiet//)
+
+&gt;<i> As a separate issue, kernel debug output is controlled by the &quot;quiet&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> keyword. We don't use this (haven't since 2003) but personally I believe
+</I>&gt;<i> it's time to include this. It gives a much smoother and more user
+</I>&gt;<i> friendly boot.
+</I>
+Yeah I was thinking about that one for some time...
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20RFC%3A%20Splash%20%2B%20Quiet.&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5BAB8C.5050303%40colin.guthr.ie%3E"
+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.">mageia at colin.guthr.ie
+       </A><BR>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 10/03/12 17:04 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 10 March 2012 17:40, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We've used the kernel command line &quot;splash=silent&quot; in the past (as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> opposed to &quot;splash=verbose&quot;) to indicate that we want a splash screen.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Most of the upstream projects just check for &quot;splash&quot; on it's own. The
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> absence of the word &quot;splash&quot; means the same as our current &quot;splash=verbose&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In order to make this work properly we have to patch both upstream
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> systemd, initscripts, dracut and plymouth.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As far as I can tell, there is no gain in doing this so I'm intending to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> convert our usage to the upstream defaults. If anyone objects, please
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> speak out now!!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> just make sure upgrade is done smoothly (s/splash=verbose/splash/
+</I>&gt;<i> and /splash=quiet//)
+</I>
+I think I'll go for the exact opposite :)
+
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+&gt;&gt;<i> As a separate issue, kernel debug output is controlled by the &quot;quiet&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> keyword. We don't use this (haven't since 2003) but personally I believe
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it's time to include this. It gives a much smoother and more user
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> friendly boot.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah I was thinking about that one for some time...
+</I>
+I've also asked Thomas about the frame buffer logo images that get
+displayed very early on. Ideally we could kill them too.
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+<PRE>Am 10.03.2012 14:15, schrieb eatdirt:
+&gt;<i> On 10/03/12 10:12, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have a pentium 66MHz (not MMX)
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+</I>&gt;<i> With the turbo button 33 -&gt; 66 ? Man, that's a proper collector :)
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+</I>Normally turbo button was only effective for 468DX/586DX type
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.">zen25000 at zen.co.uk
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 10/03/12 17:04 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> just make sure upgrade is done smoothly (s/splash=verbose/splash/
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and /splash=quiet//)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think I'll go for the exact opposite :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Thanks - I was totally confused.
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+So &quot;splash&quot; for a splash screen and nothing for text
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+    <B>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen</B> 
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+<PRE>Den 13:45 3. mars 2012 skrev Guillaume Rousse
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; f&#248;lgende:
+&gt;<i> Le 02/03/2012 22:01, Per &#216;yvind Karlsen a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Den 21:51 2. mars 2012 skrev Maarten Vanraes&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; &#160;f&#248;lgende:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 21:29:05 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 21:57, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 02 maart 2012 15:22:23 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 02.03.2012 00:17, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op donderdag 01 maart 2012 23:05:35 schreef Anssi Hannula:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> does this mean debug info fails for these?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not immediately sure (I never remember how the debug/stripping
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> stuff works exactly), but I think either a) debug symbols extraction
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and thus -debug packaging, b) stripping, or c) both will fail with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> non-executable shared libs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in that case i guess we would need a policy or bs check to make sure
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> we
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> don't fail some libraries debug and strip
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Possibly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Interestingly, Debian policy disallows executable permission on shared
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libs:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-">http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-sharedlibs.html#s-sharedlibs-</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ru ntime
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Shared libraries should not be installed executable, since the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dynamic
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> linker does not require this and trying to execute a shared library
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> usually results in a core dump.&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> which is sort of strange, since libc is actually executable by design.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> i see where they are coming from
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but i guess the first part of this is, why is there a find with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> executable restrictions for the code relating to stripped binaries and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> debug?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is it because it's also used for real executables?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I guess it is there just to speed up the process, otherwise it would
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have to run 'file' for every file in the package (and many packages have
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lots of files).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> still, it seems kind of weird, there are rpmlint checks for unstripped
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libraries, but i do have 34 libraries not marked as executable, while the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> stripping+ debug seems to target only executables?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> i wonder if we should make another check library unset as executable or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> even
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> check what happened with these libraries not marked as executable?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I posted a link to a rpmlint patch implementing such a check to this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thread two
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hours ago.. :p
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't much point to a check, when a rpm-helper scriptlet would be able to
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically enforce any given permission set.
+</I>I eventually reached that conclusion as well, especially as I ran into
+same issues with mono
+libraries as well..
+
+I've just pushed a new spec-helper to cooker with the following script:
+<A HREF="http://svn.mandriva.com/viewvc/soft/rpm/spec-helper/trunk/fix_file_permissions?view=markup">http://svn.mandriva.com/viewvc/soft/rpm/spec-helper/trunk/fix_file_permissions?view=markup</A>
+
+--
+Regards,
+Per &#216;yvind
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+<PRE>Op zaterdag 10 maart 2012 22:06:09 schreef Florian Hubold:
+&gt;<i> Am 10.03.2012 14:15, schrieb eatdirt:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 10/03/12 10:12, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I have a pentium 66MHz (not MMX)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; With the turbo button 33 -&gt; 66 ? Man, that's a proper collector :)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Normally turbo button was only effective for 468DX/586DX type
+</I>&gt;<i> of machines, not for pentium IIRC.
+</I>
+you likely mean 486/586 and alas 586 machines are called pentium
+
+there's a difference between pentium and pentium MMX though, even though i 
+recall there are even pentium MMX's who had a turbo button...
+
+if it was really effective of not, that's another matter entirely...
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+<PRE>Am 10.03.2012 22:15, schrieb Barry Jackson:
+&gt;<i> On 10/03/12 19:29, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 10/03/12 17:04 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> just make sure upgrade is done smoothly (s/splash=verbose/splash/
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and /splash=quiet//)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think I'll go for the exact opposite :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks - I was totally confused.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So &quot;splash&quot; for a splash screen and nothing for text
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sounds good to me ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Maybe do it in a way that for cauldron we have only text by default,
+and on a stable release splash by default?
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.">mageia at colin.guthr.ie
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Barry Jackson at 10/03/12 21:15 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 10/03/12 19:29, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 10/03/12 17:04 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> just make sure upgrade is done smoothly (s/splash=verbose/splash/
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and /splash=quiet//)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think I'll go for the exact opposite :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks - I was totally confused.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So &quot;splash&quot; for a splash screen and nothing for text
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Sounds good to me ;)
+</I>
+Yup. Tho' with the other part of the proposal it would actually be
+&quot;splash quiet&quot;. Two technically separate bits that combine to give a
+nicer on the eye boot.
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.">mageia at colin.guthr.ie
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Florian Hubold at 10/03/12 21:39 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Am 10.03.2012 22:15, schrieb Barry Jackson:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 10/03/12 19:29, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 10/03/12 17:04 did gyre and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> just make sure upgrade is done smoothly (s/splash=verbose/splash/
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and /splash=quiet//)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think I'll go for the exact opposite :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks - I was totally confused.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So &quot;splash&quot; for a splash screen and nothing for text
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sounds good to me ;)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe do it in a way that for cauldron we have only text by default,
+</I>&gt;<i> and on a stable release splash by default?
+</I>
+I'd rather not TBH. It's easy enough if people want to configure their
+cauldron system to show all the gory details. I don't think it's a good
+idea to have things done automatically different on cauldron vs.
+release. Kinda defeats the point in testing things on cauldron afterall.
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 08 mars 2012 &#224; 09:37 +0100, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 07 mars 2012 &#224; 21:43 +0100, Manuel Hiebel a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; How can we (the bugsquad or other people) determinate what can be a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; release_blocker bug ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in the triage guide we can see:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;The release_blocker priority is only relevant to bugs filed on Cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; or beta releases, and should only be used for issues which are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; sufficiently critical that it would severely impair the overall quality
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of a release if it were made available without the issue being
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; resolved.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That is not clear for me. And the only mail relating to that, was from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Anne in May and not useful for me.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I would say &quot;stuff that cannot be fixed after release&quot; would be release
+</I>&gt;<i> blocker. Not to say that the rest cannot be too, but at least, that's
+</I>&gt;<i> the first criteria.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So a software on livecd that crash on startup would also be a blocker.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+Ok thanks, I will keep that in mind.
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+    <B>Manuel Hiebel</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] packagekit, gstreamer and urpmi">manuel at hiebel.eu
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+    <I>Sun Mar 11 00:17:24 CET 2012</I>
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+Is there any work in progress about the packagekit-gstreamer-backend ?
+I ask that because totem (or others gstreamer player plugin) use this
+feature but don't work with urpmi.
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4869">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4869</A>
+
+If it will stay in this state, maybe we should drop these pop-up and the
+others stuff ?
+
+mail from pok:
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006422.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2011-July/006422.html</A>
+Another old thread:
+<A HREF="http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.devel/3707">http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.devel/3707</A>
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+<PRE>Am 10.03.2012 22:39, schrieb Maarten Vanraes:
+&gt;<i> Op zaterdag 10 maart 2012 22:06:09 schreef Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 10.03.2012 14:15, schrieb eatdirt:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 10/03/12 10:12, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have a pentium 66MHz (not MMX)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> With the turbo button 33 -&gt;  66 ? Man, that's a proper collector :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Normally turbo button was only effective for 468DX/586DX type
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of machines, not for pentium IIRC.
+</I>&gt;<i> you likely mean 486/586 and alas 586 machines are called pentium
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> there's a difference between pentium and pentium MMX though, even though i
+</I>&gt;<i> recall there are even pentium MMX's who had a turbo button...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> if it was really effective of not, that's another matter entirely...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Whoops, yes 486dx/586dx. 586 machines are not necessarily only
+pentiums, even if the majority only knows pentium machines as 586.
+AMD and Cyrix at that time produced also 586 cpus, and couldn't
+call those pentium because that's a trademark.
+
+Also the turbo button was more tied to the case, and not to the processor.
+But that's getting too much offtopic ...
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 8 March 2012 11:31, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Version freeze is now active. As a reminder please have a look here
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012533.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012533.html</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> for more details.
+</I>
+For years, the freeze never impacted our own tools since  unless
+packages we are not upstream, we prefer to release than patch
+(which also helps get latest translations).
+Now, drakx* stuff got blocked.
+
+So I would request we relax the freeze for our own stuff.
+else It'll made pushing fixes quite slow &amp; painfull.
+
+In worst case, instead of pushing the stack in ~30mns, it may
+takes days.
+eg if I fix sg in urpmi, I've to wait for someone to actually push urpmi
+before asking to push drakx-installer-stage2 with new urpmi.
+
+eg if I fix sg in rpm, I've to wait for someone to actually push rpm
+before asking to push perl-URPM to drakx-installer-stage2.
+
+It can become way more painful for eg:
+dietlibc fix&gt;kmod|ldetect&gt;drakx-installer-binaries&gt;drakx-installer-images
+eg: if would fix sg in dietlibc for kmod.
+Thus I would have 4 requests with delays between each.
+
+Or enable me to push new perl-URPM/urpmi/drakx* like I was able to
+do in the old days
+
+We're not that many working on our tool bugs to let us die
+of slow pain...
+Pushing fixes in the installer usually involves many stages...
+
+In the meantime, please let go in:
+
+1) drakxtools:
+- english message improvement (mga#456)
+- diskdrake:
+  o fix error on removing LVs
+  o fix resizing LVs (mga#4666)
+
+2) drakx-installer-stage2:
+- explain why acpi, acpid &amp; mageia-gfxboot-theme packages are selected
+- install more packages earlier (shorewall &amp; mandi), preventing useless
+  installing steps later at summary stage
+- partitionning:
+  o fix error on removing LVs
+  o fix resizing LVs (mga#4666)
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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+<PRE>11.03.2012 02:59, Thierry Vignaud skrev:
+&gt;<i> In the meantime, please let go in:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) drakxtools:
+</I>&gt;<i> - english message improvement (mga#456)
+</I>&gt;<i> - diskdrake:
+</I>&gt;<i>   o fix error on removing LVs
+</I>&gt;<i>   o fix resizing LVs (mga#4666)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) drakx-installer-stage2:
+</I>&gt;<i> - explain why acpi, acpid &amp; mageia-gfxboot-theme packages are selected
+</I>&gt;<i> - install more packages earlier (shorewall &amp; mandi), preventing useless
+</I>&gt;<i>   installing steps later at summary stage
+</I>&gt;<i> - partitionning:
+</I>&gt;<i>   o fix error on removing LVs
+</I>&gt;<i>   o fix resizing LVs (mga#4666)
+</I>
+Both pushed.
+
+--
+Thomas
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+    <B>Charles A Edwards</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20xonotic%20and%20nexuiz&In-Reply-To=%3C20120311004846.446ecef7%40SuperSize.eslrahc.com%3E"
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+<PRE>Is it intentional that we package/provides both xonotic; the
+successor, and nexuiz &quot;classic&quot;; now owned by IllFonic and being
+completely rewritten for a different engine?
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+
+    Charles
+
+-- 
+Q:	How many Martians does it take to screw in a light bulb?
+A:	One and a half.
+----------------------
+Mageia release 2 (Cauldron) for x86_64$
+On SuperSize....<A HREF="http://www.eslrahc.com">http://www.eslrahc.com</A>
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+I noticed, Thierry was adding new strings to drakx.
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+We are after i18n freeze, so please tell i18n team explicitely, when
+you do  something like that.
+We don't have a chance to follow up otherwise.
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+as in the other DEs the default browser in LXDE is Firefox.
+On the one hand one might have the opinion, that having the same apps
+on all the DEs is a good choice, but actually LXDE is a Lightweight DE
+and Firefox may be many things but not lightweight. Quite to the
+contrary, it is a resource hungry monster.
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+I would suggest now, to replace ff in task-lxde by midori, which is
+far lighter then ff and in my tests I didn't find any missing
+features. The next best solution would be chromium, which is a lot
+heavier then midori but doesn't lack any features and is still lighter
+then ff.
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+What do you think?
+
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+    <B>Sander Lepik</B> 
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+<PRE>11.03.2012 12:33, Oliver Burger kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> as in the other DEs the default browser in LXDE is Firefox.
+</I>&gt;<i> On the one hand one might have the opinion, that having the same apps
+</I>&gt;<i> on all the DEs is a good choice, but actually LXDE is a Lightweight DE
+</I>&gt;<i> and Firefox may be many things but not lightweight. Quite to the
+</I>&gt;<i> contrary, it is a resource hungry monster.
+</I>Actually not that bad after 7th or 8th release.
+&gt;<i> I would suggest now, to replace ff in task-lxde by midori, which is
+</I>&gt;<i> far lighter then ff and in my tests I didn't find any missing
+</I>&gt;<i> features.
+</I>How is Midori doing with flash nowdays? Last time i checked it had problems.
+&gt;<i>   The next best solution would be chromium, which is a lot
+</I>&gt;<i> heavier then midori but doesn't lack any features and is still lighter
+</I>&gt;<i> then ff.
+</I>Our chromium tends to lag with updates on stable (and after fx10 ESR it also needs more work 
+than fx as there are no ESR releases for chromium). And when comparing memory footprint it 
+ain't any better than fx.
+
+--
+Sander
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+    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic">misc at zarb.org
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+<PRE>Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;<i> It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>
+Niet.
+
+That's bugfix or security fixes.
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+-- 
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+    <B>Sander Lepik</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BFreeze%5D%20please%20let%20in%20xonotic&In-Reply-To=%3C4F5C9ABB.9070601%40eesti.ee%3E"
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+<PRE>11.03.2012 14:21, Michael Scherer kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;<i> Niet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>Honestly, WTF?!
+
+It's a new package. How much harm can it do? I would understand this rejection if we would 
+have backports enabled. But we don't. Some point release can cause more trouble than this 
+package. This is getting ridiculous.
+
+--
+Sander
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+&gt;<i> It's a new package. How much harm can it do? I would understand this
+</I>&gt;<i> rejection if we would have backports enabled. But we don't. Some point
+</I>&gt;<i> release can cause more trouble than this package. This is getting
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+</I>I have to agree with Sander here. In the meeting someone asked if
+submitting new packages would still be able and the answer was
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+&quot;Yes, but we would prefer you to focus on fixing bugs&quot;.
+Of course focusing on fixing bugs is a good thing, but we are still
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+&gt;<i> 11.03.2012 14:21, Michael Scherer kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Niet.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>&gt;<i> Honestly, WTF?!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It's a new package. 
+</I>According to sophie it's not a new package:
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+&gt;<i> 11.03.2012 14:21, Michael Scherer kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Niet.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>&gt;<i> Honestly, WTF?!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's a new package. How much harm can it do? I would understand this rejection if we would
+</I>&gt;<i> have backports enabled. But we don't. Some point release can cause more trouble than this
+</I>&gt;<i> package. This is getting ridiculous.
+</I>
+It's not getting ridiculous. This is _VERSION_FREEZE_.
+It's normal during distro release process.
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+If it wasn't important enough to import/update before the freeze, it's 
+definately not important enough after.
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+And technically _any_ new package can make a mess up a system with
+wrong provides/obsoletes/conflicts, broken %pre/%post scripts and so on.
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+And if we start going letting things slide we get the debate &quot;that 
+package got in, so why not this...&quot;
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+So, focus now is not to get new stuff into repos, but testing/fixing 
+bugs reported on bugzilla, and also test upgrades from Mageia 1 and so on.
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+We have only ~1,5 months before the planned Mageia 2 release.
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+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 &#224; 14:29 +0200, Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 11.03.2012 14:21, Michael Scherer kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Niet.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Honestly, WTF?!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's a new package.
+</I>&gt;<i> According to sophie it's not a new package:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://sophie.zarb.org/rpms/810fca5bd939c8e4a6858a5711c5200f">http://sophie.zarb.org/rpms/810fca5bd939c8e4a6858a5711c5200f</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Yeah, i take some of my words back. But there is another problem - 0.6.0 seems to be in 
+mdv2010.2. So upgrade path from Mandriva is broken.
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+&gt;<i> 11.03.2012 14:42, Manuel Hiebel kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 &#224; 14:29 +0200, Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 11.03.2012 14:21, Michael Scherer kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Niet.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Honestly, WTF?!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It's a new package.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; According to sophie it's not a new package:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://sophie.zarb.org/rpms/810fca5bd939c8e4a6858a5711c5200f">http://sophie.zarb.org/rpms/810fca5bd939c8e4a6858a5711c5200f</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah, i take some of my words back. But there is another problem - 0.6.0 seems to be in 
+</I>&gt;<i> mdv2010.2. So upgrade path from Mandriva is broken.
+</I>
+We do not garantee upgrade path from mdv 2010.2 to mga 2
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+    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 11.03.2012 14:21, Michael Scherer kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Niet.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>&gt;<i> Honestly, WTF?!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It's a new package. How much harm can it do? 
+</I>
+The same as any packages. What did people didn't understand about &quot;focus
+on bugfixes&quot; ?
+
+&gt;<i> I would understand this rejection if we would 
+</I>&gt;<i> have backports enabled. But we don't. Some point release can cause more trouble than this 
+</I>&gt;<i> package. 
+</I>
+If by &quot;point release&quot;, you mean &quot;version upgrade in a minor version&quot;,
+that's also blocked.
+
+If by &quot;point release&quot;, you mean &quot;rebuild with spec change&quot;, that's much
+easier to revert and detect, since there is less changes to look at.
+And that's a part where packagers can realistially check. That's not the
+case for most tarballs where there is several changes for a new version.
+
+Frankly, there is a time where we should say &quot;this is the version we
+choose for the release&quot;. We are not doing a rolling release.
+So either you agree that there is a time to say &quot;stop&quot; to upgrade, be it
+on the day of release or before, and think that the time we choosed is
+not the right time, and in which case, they should clearly tell. Or you
+want a rolling release, and again, you have to clearly say &quot;I want to
+have a rolling release&quot; and I will answer &quot;there was some threads in the
+past&quot; 
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 &#224; 14:47 +0200, Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> &gt; According to sophie it's not a new package:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://sophie.zarb.org/rpms/810fca5bd939c8e4a6858a5711c5200f">http://sophie.zarb.org/rpms/810fca5bd939c8e4a6858a5711c5200f</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah, i take some of my words back. But there is another problem -
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.6.0 seems to be in 
+</I>&gt;<i> mdv2010.2. So upgrade path from Mandriva is broken. 
+</I>Do we support upgrade from mandriva backport ? I'am not sure.
+(also maybe we should not look anymore what they are doing...
+and remember that the desktop support is eol:
+<A HREF="http://www.mandriva.com/en/support/lifecycle/">http://www.mandriva.com/en/support/lifecycle/</A> )
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/3/11 Sander Lepik &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sander.lepik at eesti.ee</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It's a new package. How much harm can it do? I would understand this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rejection if we would have backports enabled. But we don't. Some point
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; release can cause more trouble than this package. This is getting
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ridiculous.
+</I>&gt;<i> I have to agree with Sander here. In the meeting someone asked if
+</I>&gt;<i> submitting new packages would still be able and the answer was
+</I>&gt;<i> something like
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Yes, but we would prefer you to focus on fixing bugs&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course focusing on fixing bugs is a good thing, but we are still
+</I>&gt;<i> almost two months before release and the fact that we don't have
+</I>&gt;<i> backports (and probably never will :/ ) is a big problem.
+</I>
+As far as I know only packages with different version are rejected by your
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 &#224; 01:59 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 8 March 2012 11:31, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Version freeze is now active. As a reminder please have a look here
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012533.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012533.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for more details.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> For years, the freeze never impacted our own tools since  unless
+</I>&gt;<i> packages we are not upstream, we prefer to release than patch
+</I>&gt;<i> (which also helps get latest translations).
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, drakx* stuff got blocked.
+</I>
+For years, the whole stack have been developped in the last minute. 
+
+&gt;<i> So I would request we relax the freeze for our own stuff.
+</I>&gt;<i> else It'll made pushing fixes quite slow &amp; painfull.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> In worst case, instead of pushing the stack in ~30mns, it may
+</I>&gt;<i> takes days.
+</I>&gt;<i> eg if I fix sg in urpmi, I've to wait for someone to actually push urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> before asking to push drakx-installer-stage2 with new urpmi.
+</I>
+Yes. Or you can backport the fix as patch. Or say &quot;that's just a bugfix&quot;
+release. 
+
+&gt;<i> eg if I fix sg in rpm, I've to wait for someone to actually push rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> before asking to push perl-URPM to drakx-installer-stage2.
+</I>
+Perl-URPM would not require a version upgrade, so would not need anyone
+to push, as well as drakxinstall-stage2.
+
+Since a fix to rpm would be a patch, that's also no a version upgrade.
+
+So for version freeze, there is no need of anything special.
+
+And for release freeze, I would hope that we do not need fix that
+requires to rebuild 4 differents rpms. At least not more than once...
+
+&gt;<i> It can become way more painful for eg:
+</I>&gt;<i> dietlibc fix&gt;kmod|ldetect&gt;drakx-installer-binaries&gt;drakx-installer-images
+</I>&gt;<i> eg: if would fix sg in dietlibc for kmod.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thus I would have 4 requests with delays between each.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Or enable me to push new perl-URPM/urpmi/drakx* like I was able to
+</I>&gt;<i> do in the old days
+</I>
+No, for the aformentioned reasons.
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+    <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 0.6.0 seems to be in mdv2010.2
+</I>
+Yes, and it's a Backport.
+0.6.0 was released march 8 2012. :-)=
+
+Xonotic wasn't included in the 2010.2 release, as xonotic 0.1 wasn't released untill the day after the 2010.2 release. And according to the changelog it was imported into Mandriva september 9, 2011.
+So the upgrade path from Mandriva seems to be fine, regarding xonotic at least.
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+    <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> 
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+</I>&gt;<i> package got in, so why not this...&quot;
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> I noticed, Thierry was adding new strings to drakx.
+</I>
+No I did NOT.
+Someone added some new strings a _YEAR_ ago w/o regenerated
+the pos.
+I only regenerated the catalogs.
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+So don't blame the messager...
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+&gt;<i> We are after i18n freeze, so please tell i18n team explicitely, when
+</I>&gt;<i> you do &#160;something like that.
+</I>&gt;<i> We don't have a chance to follow up otherwise.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Niet.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Honestly, WTF?!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's a new package. How much harm can it do?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The same as any packages. What did people didn't understand about &quot;focus
+</I>&gt;<i> on bugfixes&quot; ?
+</I>
+Sorry but I'm the one pushing that package and I am ALSO FEELING
+ALONE FIXING BUGS...
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 11 March 2012 10:37, Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I noticed, Thierry was adding new strings to drakx.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No I did NOT.
+</I>&gt;<i> Someone added some new strings a _YEAR_ ago w/o regenerated
+</I>&gt;<i> the pos.
+</I>&gt;<i> I only regenerated the catalogs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So don't blame the messager...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I don't blame you. I would just like i18n to be informed. I did see
+those changes by chance so I was able to inform the i18n team about
+it, but it would be far easier  if developers could inforn i18n
+themselves. It's just one email. It won't harm anyone.
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+    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 &#224; 14:24 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 11 March 2012 13:54, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Niet.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Honestly, WTF?!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It's a new package. How much harm can it do?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The same as any packages. What did people didn't understand about &quot;focus
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on bugfixes&quot; ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry but I'm the one pushing that package and I am ALSO FEELING
+</I>&gt;<i> ALONE FIXING BUGS...
+</I>
+Yes, I have seen that you are the one pushing the package. Did I missed
+something about you ?
+
+And I have seen that you are pushing fixes ( and also non fixes after
+version freeze since it was not properly enforced )
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+But I fail to see the relation between this and the push of a game past
+the version freeze. 
+
+-- 
+Michael Scherer
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+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I noticed, Thierry was adding new strings to drakx.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> We are after i18n freeze, so please tell i18n team explicitely, when
+</I>&gt;<i> you do  something like that.
+</I>
+I think we did wanted to send automated mail on commit for that, i did
+add support for that on our svn setup, but I guess i didn't have time to
+finish the job.
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+<PRE>Le 11/03/2012 14:46, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/11 Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 11 March 2012 10:37, Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I noticed, Thierry was adding new strings to drakx.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No I did NOT.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Someone added some new strings a _YEAR_ ago w/o regenerated
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the pos.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I only regenerated the catalogs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So don't blame the messager...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't blame you. I would just like i18n to be informed. I did see
+</I>&gt;<i> those changes by chance so I was able to inform the i18n team about
+</I>&gt;<i> it, but it would be far easier  if developers could inforn i18n
+</I>&gt;<i> themselves. It's just one email. It won't harm anyone.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>
+
+About that specific point we had in Mandria a mail sent automatically
+when new strings were added. It has avoided lot of such problems
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+-- 
+Anne
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+&gt;<i> About that specific point we had in Mandria a mail sent automatically
+</I>&gt;<i> when new strings were added. It has avoided lot of such problems
+</I>The question is: sent to whom? I don't remember getting automatic
+messages like that in my days in Mdv i18n.
+It was mostly Thierry to be honest, who told us about changed strings on the ml.
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+<PRE>Le 11/03/2012 14:51, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/11 Anne Nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> About that specific point we had in Mandria a mail sent automatically
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> when new strings were added. It has avoided lot of such problems
+</I>&gt;<i> The question is: sent to whom? I don't remember getting automatic
+</I>&gt;<i> messages like that in my days in Mdv i18n.
+</I>&gt;<i> It was mostly Thierry to be honest, who told us about changed strings on the ml.
+</I>
+It was not setup for Mageia yet. In mandriva this mail was sent to i18n ML.
+
+Was just a reminder for todo list to help work in better conditions
+
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>
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+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It's a new package. How much harm can it do?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; The same as any packages. What did people didn't understand about &quot;focus
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; on bugfixes&quot; ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry but I'm the one pushing that package and I am ALSO FEELING
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ALONE FIXING BUGS...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, I have seen that you are the one pushing the package. Did I missed
+</I>&gt;<i> something about you ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And I have seen that you are pushing fixes ( and also non fixes after
+</I>&gt;<i> version freeze since it was not properly enforced )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But I fail to see the relation between this and the push of a game past
+</I>&gt;<i> the version freeze.
+</I>
+This means it's quite rude that people that don't do any fix at all shouts
+&quot;focus on bugfixes&quot; to those who are actually doing bug fixes and also,
+AS WAS ALWAYS DONE WHEN EXPLAINED, request some exceptions
+to the freeze policy.
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+That's very encouraging.... :-(
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+    <B>Marek Laane</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/11 Anne Nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; About that specific point we had in Mandria a mail sent automatically
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; when new strings were added. It has avoided lot of such problems
+</I>&gt;<i> The question is: sent to whom? I don't remember getting automatic
+</I>&gt;<i> messages like that in my days in Mdv i18n.
+</I>&gt;<i> It was mostly Thierry to be honest, who told us about changed strings on
+</I>&gt;<i> the ml.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+There was short period when mailing additions or changes to Mandriva i18
+list really functioned - but yeah, it was short period...
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+&gt;<i> This means it's quite rude that people that don't do any fix at all shouts
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;focus on bugfixes&quot; to those who are actually doing bug fixes and also,
+</I>&gt;<i> AS WAS ALWAYS DONE WHEN EXPLAINED, request some exceptions
+</I>&gt;<i> to the freeze policy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's very encouraging.... :-(
+</I>
+That is PLEASE DO FOCUS YOURSELVES ON FIXING BUGS
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+    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 &#224; 15:36 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 11 March 2012 14:45, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; It's a new package. How much harm can it do?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; The same as any packages. What did people didn't understand about &quot;focus
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; on bugfixes&quot; ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Sorry but I'm the one pushing that package and I am ALSO FEELING
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ALONE FIXING BUGS...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yes, I have seen that you are the one pushing the package. Did I missed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; something about you ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And I have seen that you are pushing fixes ( and also non fixes after
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; version freeze since it was not properly enforced )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But I fail to see the relation between this and the push of a game past
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the version freeze.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This means it's quite rude that people that don't do any fix at all
+</I>&gt;<i>  shouts &quot;focus on bugfixes&quot; to those who are actually doing bug fixes and also,
+</I>&gt;<i> AS WAS ALWAYS DONE WHEN EXPLAINED, request some exceptions
+</I>&gt;<i> to the freeze policy.
+</I>
+Doing bug fixes is not some kind pf money to get exceptions. We said
+that exception should be justified, and &quot;this break nothing at all&quot; is
+not a justification.
+
+And regarding the personal attack on my involvement, I will try to
+pretend it didn't happen. 
+
+-- 
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> as in the other DEs the default browser in LXDE is Firefox.
+</I>&gt;<i> On the one hand one might have the opinion, that having the same apps
+</I>&gt;<i> on all the DEs is a good choice, but actually LXDE is a Lightweight DE
+</I>&gt;<i> and Firefox may be many things but not lightweight. Quite to the
+</I>&gt;<i> contrary, it is a resource hungry monster.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>I do not use LXDE, but Xfce. 
+I am also interested by midori rather than chromium. 
+It is more easily configurable. 
+I had also noticed that flash does not work. 
+At present (cauldron) midori crash in the opening of a page. 
+If I launch midori in a terminal, I have messages of the kind
+&quot;Gdk-CRITICAL GDK_IS_DISPLAY failed &quot;
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+<PRE>Am 11.03.2012 11:33, schrieb Oliver Burger:
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> as in the other DEs the default browser in LXDE is Firefox.
+</I>&gt;<i> On the one hand one might have the opinion, that having the same apps
+</I>&gt;<i> on all the DEs is a good choice, but actually LXDE is a Lightweight DE
+</I>&gt;<i> and Firefox may be many things but not lightweight. Quite to the
+</I>&gt;<i> contrary, it is a resource hungry monster.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would suggest now, to replace ff in task-lxde by midori, which is
+</I>&gt;<i> far lighter then ff and in my tests I didn't find any missing
+</I>&gt;<i> features. The next best solution would be chromium, which is a lot
+</I>&gt;<i> heavier then midori but doesn't lack any features and is still lighter
+</I>&gt;<i> then ff.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
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+&gt;<i> Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Niet.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>
+Communication tip for the future : when such a policy change happens (this is 
+a policy change, there were more exceptions in the past before package freeze, 
+for leaf packages without weird deps and post/pre scripts and little impact), 
+let's try to highlight it *before*.
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+There was a communication effort to announce the freeze: I read freeze 
+announce, was present at the last packager meeting. However it didn't struck 
+me, it all looked like the usual end of release cycle, with their common-sense 
+exceptions.
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+A message such as &quot;contrarily as what happened in the past&quot; (this is the 
+important part, highlight a *change*), &quot;there will be no exception even for 
+leaf non-critical packages, so that you all focus on bugfixes, as we know that 
+otherwise you will not fix bugs and continue updating your packages&quot;. 
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+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 13:21:57, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Niet.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>&gt;<i> Communication tip for the future : when such a policy change happens (this is
+</I>&gt;<i> a policy change, there were more exceptions in the past before package freeze,
+</I>&gt;<i> for leaf packages without weird deps and post/pre scripts and little impact),
+</I>&gt;<i> let's try to highlight it *before*.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There was a communication effort to announce the freeze: I read freeze
+</I>&gt;<i> announce, was present at the last packager meeting. However it didn't struck
+</I>&gt;<i> me, it all looked like the usual end of release cycle, with their common-sense
+</I>&gt;<i> exceptions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A message such as &quot;contrarily as what happened in the past&quot; (this is the
+</I>&gt;<i> important part, highlight a *change*), &quot;there will be no exception even for
+</I>&gt;<i> leaf non-critical packages, so that you all focus on bugfixes, as we know that
+</I>&gt;<i> otherwise you will not fix bugs and continue updating your packages&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I can only chime in with Stormi, in last packager meeting ennael
+said that new packages would be allowed during the freeze,
+but we should focus on bug fixes, which is comprehensible.
+Also misc didn't say anything that new packages are disallowed.
+
+So when did this change and who changed it? Or is it just that the
+reason given for xonotic was not enough?
+
+I'm just asking in advance, because i've not gotten around to properly
+testing qtsixa, which i wanted to add for Mageia 2 and to resolve
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3362">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3362</A>
+Because i didn't want to import it untested, and another problem
+is that i can't spare a physical cauldron installation, which made
+testing a lot more difficult, it's not in Mageia yet.
+
+Also what about adding hardware support as e.g. needed for
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4249">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4249</A> ?
+Also disallowed?
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+This includes some runtime systemd autodetection-foo to prevent the need
+for hardcoding the listen path. This, in theory, means we can drop
+listen.conf from the systemd package, thus making rsyslog work under
+non-systemd boots too.
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+We've previously OK'ed updates to mga1 of updated rsyslog versions so
+this should be a relatively uncontroversial push.
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+Col
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+-- 
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+colin(at)mageia.org
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+&gt;<i> Am 11.03.2012 17:58, schrieb Samuel Verschelde:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 13:21:57, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Niet.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Communication tip for the future : when such a policy change happens
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (this is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a policy change, there were more exceptions in the past before package
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> freeze,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for leaf packages without weird deps and post/pre scripts and little
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> impact),
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> let's try to highlight it *before*.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There was a communication effort to announce the freeze: I read freeze
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> announce, was present at the last packager meeting. However it didn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> struck
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> me, it all looked like the usual end of release cycle, with their
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> common-sense
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> exceptions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> A message such as &quot;contrarily as what happened in the past&quot; (this is the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> important part, highlight a *change*), &quot;there will be no exception
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> even for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> leaf non-critical packages, so that you all focus on bugfixes, as we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> know that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> otherwise you will not fix bugs and continue updating your packages&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can only chime in with Stormi, in last packager meeting ennael
+</I>&gt;<i> said that new packages would be allowed during the freeze,
+</I>&gt;<i> but we should focus on bug fixes, which is comprehensible.
+</I>&gt;<i> Also misc didn't say anything that new packages are disallowed.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So when did this change and who changed it? Or is it just that the
+</I>&gt;<i> reason given for xonotic was not enough?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm just asking in advance, because i've not gotten around to properly
+</I>&gt;<i> testing qtsixa, which i wanted to add for Mageia 2 and to resolve
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3362">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3362</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Because i didn't want to import it untested, and another problem
+</I>&gt;<i> is that i can't spare a physical cauldron installation, which made
+</I>&gt;<i> testing a lot more difficult, it's not in Mageia yet.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Also what about adding hardware support as e.g. needed for
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4249">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4249</A> ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Also disallowed?
+</I>
+
+Without wanting to cause any problems, I think think this particular
+issue has gotten a little out of hand.
+
+Policy is there for a reason, and we all accept those reasons. We also
+accept that rules are made to be broken and I think it can sometimes be
+said that strict adherence to policy can often be forgone for reasons of
+diplomacy and based on risk vs. reward.
+
+During the mga1 freeze phase, there were was certainly a more relaxed
+approach and I don't think it did any harm, rather the opposite. And by
+&quot;harm&quot; I mean both to the quality of the distro and to the community at
+large.
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+While I don't personally give two hoots about this package, I suspect
+(and this is just my guess) that misc would have probably pushed the
+package if he'd known it would have caused such a blow out, to avoid the
+general hassle (but the same would not be true if the package had been a
+more core package). Again this is just my suspicion.
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+However, I do feel we need to be more generally open to freeze pushes.
+The justification in this case, IMO, was sufficient and in line with the
+previous interpretations of policy we have expected in the past, but I
+completely respect misc if he still disagrees.
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+But, please let's all try not get too worked up about this either way.
+
+I'm now going away to try and work out how I can word my freeze push
+request regarding PulseAudio... (only made possible by new kernel) :p
+
+Col
+
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> Am 11.03.2012 17:58, schrieb Samuel Verschelde:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 13:21:57, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Hi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Niet.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Communication tip for the future : when such a policy change happens (this is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; a policy change, there were more exceptions in the past before package freeze,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for leaf packages without weird deps and post/pre scripts and little impact),
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; let's try to highlight it *before*.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There was a communication effort to announce the freeze: I read freeze
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; announce, was present at the last packager meeting. However it didn't struck
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; me, it all looked like the usual end of release cycle, with their common-sense
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; exceptions.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; A message such as &quot;contrarily as what happened in the past&quot; (this is the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; important part, highlight a *change*), &quot;there will be no exception even for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; leaf non-critical packages, so that you all focus on bugfixes, as we know that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; otherwise you will not fix bugs and continue updating your packages&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> I can only chime in with Stormi, in last packager meeting ennael
+</I>&gt;<i> said that new packages would be allowed during the freeze,
+</I>&gt;<i> but we should focus on bug fixes, which is comprehensible.
+</I>&gt;<i> Also misc didn't say anything that new packages are disallowed.
+</I>
+As said earlier in the thread, that's not a new package, or it would
+have been able to go without asking anything.
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+<PRE>I have 3 different bluetooth usb devices and can't get anyone to work on
+my cauldron based box. When I insert the dongle - nothing happens, but
+when I pull is out I get:
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+Mar 11 19:16:14 foxbase systemd[1]: Service bluetooth.target is not
+needed anymore. Stopping.
+
+lsusb shows:
+Bus 004 Device 005: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth
+Dongle (HCI mode)
+
+harddrake2 doesn't show anything either - although:
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> rfox]# lsmod | grep blue
+bluetooth             275663  1 btusb
+crc16                  12675  1 bluetooth
+rfkill                 21915  2 bluetooth,cfg80211
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+What can I do to get it to work?
+
+Thx,
+R.Fox
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+<PRE>Am 11.03.2012 18:39, schrieb Michael Scherer:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 &#224; 18:12 +0100, Florian Hubold a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 11.03.2012 17:58, schrieb Samuel Verschelde:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 13:21:57, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Niet.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Communication tip for the future : when such a policy change happens (this is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a policy change, there were more exceptions in the past before package freeze,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for leaf packages without weird deps and post/pre scripts and little impact),
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> let's try to highlight it *before*.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There was a communication effort to announce the freeze: I read freeze
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> announce, was present at the last packager meeting. However it didn't struck
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> me, it all looked like the usual end of release cycle, with their common-sense
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> exceptions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> A message such as &quot;contrarily as what happened in the past&quot; (this is the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> important part, highlight a *change*), &quot;there will be no exception even for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> leaf non-critical packages, so that you all focus on bugfixes, as we know that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> otherwise you will not fix bugs and continue updating your packages&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can only chime in with Stormi, in last packager meeting ennael
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> said that new packages would be allowed during the freeze,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but we should focus on bug fixes, which is comprehensible.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also misc didn't say anything that new packages are disallowed.
+</I>&gt;<i> As said earlier in the thread, that's not a new package, or it would
+</I>&gt;<i> have been able to go without asking anything.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>OK, so for clarification: New packages which should probably be
+&quot;leaf packages&quot; are still allowed? Then probably i've misunderstood
+or misinterpreted some of the previous comments.
+
+Related, as we seem to miss some documentation on the freeze
+(as <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Freeze">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Freeze</A> is still empty) which could have
+prevented such a discussion, do you think it's a good idea
+if i would write one up?
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+Also i've just seen later that Manuel mentioned we already had
+this package before.
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+Sorry for the noise :-[
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Robert Fox at 11/03/12 18:20 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> I have 3 different bluetooth usb devices and can't get anyone to work on
+</I>&gt;<i> my cauldron based box. When I insert the dongle - nothing happens, but
+</I>&gt;<i> when I pull is out I get:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 11 19:16:14 foxbase systemd[1]: Service bluetooth.target is not
+</I>&gt;<i> needed anymore. Stopping.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> lsusb shows:
+</I>&gt;<i> Bus 004 Device 005: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth
+</I>&gt;<i> Dongle (HCI mode)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> harddrake2 doesn't show anything either - although:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> rfox]# lsmod | grep blue
+</I>&gt;<i> bluetooth             275663  1 btusb
+</I>&gt;<i> crc16                  12675  1 bluetooth
+</I>&gt;<i> rfkill                 21915  2 bluetooth,cfg80211
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> What can I do to get it to work?
+</I>
+What does systemctl status bluetoothd.service say?
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+If it's disabled, then enable and start it. This should happen
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Robert Fox at 11/03/12 18:20 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have 3 different bluetooth usb devices and can't get anyone to work on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; my cauldron based box. When I insert the dongle - nothing happens, but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; when I pull is out I get:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mar 11 19:16:14 foxbase systemd[1]: Service bluetooth.target is not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; needed anymore. Stopping.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lsusb shows:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Bus 004 Device 005: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Dongle (HCI mode)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; harddrake2 doesn't show anything either - although:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> rfox]# lsmod | grep blue
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bluetooth             275663  1 btusb
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; crc16                  12675  1 bluetooth
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rfkill                 21915  2 bluetooth,cfg80211
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What can I do to get it to work?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> What does systemctl status bluetoothd.service say?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> rfox]# systemctl status bluetoothd.service
+bluetoothd.service
+          Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory)
+          Active: inactive (dead)
+
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+&gt;<i> If it's disabled, then enable and start it. This should happen
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically on update or initial install.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>Doesn't look good . . . what now?
+
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Robert Fox at 11/03/12 19:34 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 19:27 +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Robert Fox at 11/03/12 18:20 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have 3 different bluetooth usb devices and can't get anyone to work on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> my cauldron based box. When I insert the dongle - nothing happens, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> when I pull is out I get:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 11 19:16:14 foxbase systemd[1]: Service bluetooth.target is not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> needed anymore. Stopping.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lsusb shows:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Bus 004 Device 005: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dongle (HCI mode)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> harddrake2 doesn't show anything either - although:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> rfox]# lsmod | grep blue
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bluetooth             275663  1 btusb
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> crc16                  12675  1 bluetooth
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rfkill                 21915  2 bluetooth,cfg80211
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What can I do to get it to work?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What does systemctl status bluetoothd.service say?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> rfox]# systemctl status bluetoothd.service
+</I>&gt;<i> bluetoothd.service
+</I>&gt;<i>           Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory)
+</I>&gt;<i>           Active: inactive (dead)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If it's disabled, then enable and start it. This should happen
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> automatically on update or initial install.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Doesn't look good . . . what now?
+</I>
+Sorry, spelling error on my part...
+
+systemctl status bluetooth.service
+
+
+Col
+
+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Robert Fox at 11/03/12 19:34 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sun, 2012-03-11 at 19:27 +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 'Twas brillig, and Robert Fox at 11/03/12 18:20 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I have 3 different bluetooth usb devices and can't get anyone to work on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; my cauldron based box. When I insert the dongle - nothing happens, but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; when I pull is out I get:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Mar 11 19:16:14 foxbase systemd[1]: Service bluetooth.target is not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; needed anymore. Stopping.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; lsusb shows:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Bus 004 Device 005: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Dongle (HCI mode)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; harddrake2 doesn't show anything either - although:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> rfox]# lsmod | grep blue
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; bluetooth             275663  1 btusb
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; crc16                  12675  1 bluetooth
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; rfkill                 21915  2 bluetooth,cfg80211
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; What can I do to get it to work?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; What does systemctl status bluetoothd.service say?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> rfox]# systemctl status bluetoothd.service
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bluetoothd.service
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;           Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;           Active: inactive (dead)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; If it's disabled, then enable and start it. This should happen
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; automatically on update or initial install.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Doesn't look good . . . what now?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry, spelling error on my part...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> systemctl status bluetooth.service
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+That was the ticket - it works now!  Thanks!
+
+Funny that - I checked drakxservices and bluetooth is not on the list -
+what is the relationship now with systemctl and drakxservices now (if
+any) ??
+
+Thanks,
+R.Fox
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+<PRE>On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> skrev 8.3.2012 02:18:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I just tried Mageia 2 beta 1 on a Intel DN2800MT board hoping that it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; would have framebuffer support for the GMA 3600, but the attached
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; monitor goes into standby (no signal) as soon as the frame buffer gets
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; activated during boot.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; As far as I understand there is frame buffer support in the 3.3 kernel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; for the GMA 3600 so in theory it should work.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Are you aware of this issue or should I do a bug report?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Yes.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There is a bug with Cedar Trail that got fixed upstream a few days after
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 3.3-rc6 was released, so the fix is not in our current 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; kernel-3.3.0-0.rc6.1.mga2, but it will be fixed in the next build.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks, that's great, I will test the next build and then report back 
+</I>&gt;<i> how that works with my Cedar Trail board.
+</I>
+Hi, I noticed a new kernel packages showed up in the cauldron repo 
+(3.3rc7) so I tried it immediately (reinstalled cauldron from scratch as 
+I had overwritten the previous install with other distro tests) using 
+the boot.iso image, but the video behaviour at boot is still the same, 
+the monitor still goes into no-signal standby as soon as the drm stuff 
+is started.
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+I have full access to the box via ssh so I have uploaded some logs that 
+might help figure this out, it looks to like the kernel modules load 
+fine but somehow they set a screen mode that the monitor doesn't like.
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+Basically I don't really know how the drm kernel modules and xorg 
+interact (and I can't find any useful recent docs about it), who is 
+responsible for setting the screen mode and where can I manually 
+configure it, on the kernel line or xorg.conf?
+(I have been spoiled by the binary nvidia drivers for too long :) )
+
+dmesg: 
+<A HREF="http://pastebin.com/SLBcgjXx">http://pastebin.com/SLBcgjXx</A>
+
+lsmod output:
+# lsmod|grep gma
+gma500_gfx            149940  0
+drm_kms_helper         32743  1 gma500_gfx
+drm                   207700  2 gma500_gfx,drm_kms_helper
+i2c_algo_bit           13080  1 gma500_gfx
+i2c_core               29836  5 
+i2c_i801,gma500_gfx,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit
+video                  18640  1 gma500_gfx
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+/var/log/Xorg.0.log:
+<A HREF="http://pastebin.com/ypw0DAnz">http://pastebin.com/ypw0DAnz</A>
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+I'm unsure if this is only a config problem or if this is still due
+to some bug.
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+Any pointers would be much appreciated.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Robert Fox at 11/03/12 19:48 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> That was the ticket - it works now!  Thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Funny that - I checked drakxservices and bluetooth is not on the list -
+</I>&gt;<i> what is the relationship now with systemctl and drakxservices now (if
+</I>&gt;<i> any) ??
+</I>
+drakxservices still needs to be ported to systemd. tv and dmorgan were
+looking at that recentlyish. Should be available soon.
+
+Col
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 &#224; 17:58 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 13:21:57, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Niet.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Communication tip for the future : when such a policy change happens (this is 
+</I>&gt;<i> a policy change, there were more exceptions in the past before package freeze, 
+</I>&gt;<i> for leaf packages without weird deps and post/pre scripts and little impact), 
+</I>&gt;<i> let's try to highlight it *before*.
+</I>
+We asked if people understood what version freeze mean, and people all
+said yes. 
+
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2012/mageia-dev.2012-02-15-20.13.log.html#l-75">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2012/mageia-dev.2012-02-15-20.13.log.html#l-75</A>
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+So I assumed that people were aware of what was posted last time :
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+<A HREF="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.devel/4015">http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mageia.devel/4015</A>
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+and that &quot;very good reasons&quot; where basically the same for everybody. 
+
+It seems there is some misunderstanding, likely coming from another
+discussion that the one I found. Can people just tell me where they have
+seen their interpretation of freeze, cause I have read the one I posted
+twice, I still think it correspond that what i just said.
+
+&gt;<i> There was a communication effort to announce the freeze: I read freeze 
+</I>&gt;<i> announce, was present at the last packager meeting. However it didn't struck 
+</I>&gt;<i> me, it all looked like the usual end of release cycle, with their common-sense 
+</I>&gt;<i> exceptions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A message such as &quot;contrarily as what happened in the past&quot; (this is the 
+</I>&gt;<i> important part, highlight a *change*), &quot;there will be no exception even for 
+</I>&gt;<i> leaf non-critical packages, so that you all focus on bugfixes, as we know that 
+</I>&gt;<i> otherwise you will not fix bugs and continue updating your packages&quot;. 
+</I>
+I took a look at the archives for the last round ( ie mageia 1 ), thanks
+to evolution. Since people were upset because this exception should have
+been granted, I assumed that the same type of exception would have been
+granted in the past numerous times ( I mean, if people didn't remember
+the mail saying &quot;this would not be granted&quot;, that's likely because we
+granted it several time, enough time to have people totally forget what
+was posted in the first place ).
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+I found exactly 1 package that not at least saying &quot;that's a bug fix
+release&quot;, &quot;this fix a CVE&quot;, &quot;it fix upgrade&quot;., ie all reasons that were
+announced &quot;we would likely let this pass&quot;.
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+It was alienarena on 06/05/2011, and it was pushed by boklm around 2h
+after the mail was sent.
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+That's the only one I can find that was not corresponding at the
+criteria we laid out for being a regular exception ( cf url given sooner
+), but it was still granted. We trusted boklm as well as others to
+choose, so he did. But still, if we look at the list given before ( and
+since no one answered at all and no one complained later, I assumed that
+everybody agreed, especially since this was based on common sense ), it
+was said &quot;it would likely not pass&quot;.
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+So if there wasn't others ( and I will assume that's the case unless
+someone show others examples that I could have missed ), we can see that
+the whole &quot;but it was granted last time&quot; assumption is either based
+on : 
+- 1 single rpm being a exception that would have been refused and that
+wasn't ( ie, a weak example )
+or :
+- based on a different &quot;last time&quot; than last year ( and then why did no
+one complained last year is left as a exercise )
+or :
+- based on different perception of what type of exception were granted
+last time, perception that doesn't align with the reality of the
+archives I checked.
+
+But so far, I think that we are basically and roughly coherent when
+compared to the last freeze period. Therefore, I do not see the need to
+communicate a change when there was in fact no changes on the side of
+the policy. And sorry, I cannot communicate to say that what people
+remember do not correspond to what was done. 
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+And we can see that as tmb said, the problem is not that granting would
+disturb the distribution, but that granting once for a minor package
+would lead to the same type of lengthy and heated discussion as we are
+having now, but for each packages. The more complex the rules are, the
+more discussion and the more problem we will have to solve. 
+
+-- 
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+We're aiming to get a PA 2.0 release out very soon (within the next 4
+weeks).
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+I wasn't originally intending to request this release in mga2 purely
+because I wasn't aware that we were getting kernel 3.3 until recently
+(my bad).
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+As you'll have seen from my reply to Thomas' announce about the kernel,
+and as we've now merged the relevant patches in upstream PA to make use
+of the new interfaces in kernel 3.3, I'd be very keen to push that we
+include PA 2.0 in mga2.
+
+The primary reason for this is jack detection. This has been a big
+feature that has been missing and it's taken a long time and a lot of
+cooperation to get the necessary features merged and available in the
+various layers.
+
+There is still work to do but the key parts will be working. We have
+bugs reported against mga1 regarding this topic.
+
+I'm confident that the changes in PA 2.0 are not risky and as upstream
+I'm in a good position to push updates and fixes later anyway if needed.
+
+Also being involved in an important part of linux plumbing and including
+the fruits of that labour in mga2 is good from a PR perspective (I have
+seen several comments long the lines of &quot;it's good to see Mageia folks
+involved in plumbing&quot; on e.g. lwn.net and similar).
+
+Anyway, this is my justification. I have packages ready to roll.
+
+Can this go it? I think it's worth it.
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
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+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> There is still work to do but the key parts will be working. We have
+</I>&gt;<i> bugs reported against mga1 regarding this topic.
+</I>
+I noticed some Canonical person working on gnome-control-center mockups
+for the jack detection. It might be included in 12.04, not sure. Might
+also be in GNOME 3.4. Probably you know more than me. Can lookup the
+details instead of all this guessing if you want.
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+    <B>tux99-mga at uridium.org</B> 
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+<PRE>On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 9 Mar 2012 <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Fri, 9 Mar 2012, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> skrev 8.3.2012 02:18:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; I just tried Mageia 2 beta 1 on a Intel DN2800MT board hoping that it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; would have framebuffer support for the GMA 3600, but the attached
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; monitor goes into standby (no signal) as soon as the frame buffer gets
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; activated during boot.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; As far as I understand there is frame buffer support in the 3.3 kernel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; for the GMA 3600 so in theory it should work.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Are you aware of this issue or should I do a bug report?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Yes.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; There is a bug with Cedar Trail that got fixed upstream a few days after
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 3.3-rc6 was released, so the fix is not in our current 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; kernel-3.3.0-0.rc6.1.mga2, but it will be fixed in the next build.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks, that's great, I will test the next build and then report back 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; how that works with my Cedar Trail board.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi, I noticed a new kernel packages showed up in the cauldron repo 
+</I>&gt;<i> (3.3rc7) so I tried it immediately (reinstalled cauldron from scratch as 
+</I>&gt;<i> I had overwritten the previous install with other distro tests) using 
+</I>&gt;<i> the boot.iso image, but the video behaviour at boot is still the same, 
+</I>&gt;<i> the monitor still goes into no-signal standby as soon as the drm stuff 
+</I>&gt;<i> is started.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I have full access to the box via ssh so I have uploaded some logs that 
+</I>&gt;<i> might help figure this out, it looks to like the kernel modules load 
+</I>&gt;<i> fine but somehow they set a screen mode that the monitor doesn't like.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Basically I don't really know how the drm kernel modules and xorg 
+</I>&gt;<i> interact (and I can't find any useful recent docs about it), who is 
+</I>&gt;<i> responsible for setting the screen mode and where can I manually 
+</I>&gt;<i> configure it, on the kernel line or xorg.conf?
+</I>&gt;<i> (I have been spoiled by the binary nvidia drivers for too long :) )
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> dmesg: 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/SLBcgjXx">http://pastebin.com/SLBcgjXx</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> lsmod output:
+</I>&gt;<i> # lsmod|grep gma
+</I>&gt;<i> gma500_gfx            149940  0
+</I>&gt;<i> drm_kms_helper         32743  1 gma500_gfx
+</I>&gt;<i> drm                   207700  2 gma500_gfx,drm_kms_helper
+</I>&gt;<i> i2c_algo_bit           13080  1 gma500_gfx
+</I>&gt;<i> i2c_core               29836  5 
+</I>&gt;<i> i2c_i801,gma500_gfx,drm_kms_helper,drm,i2c_algo_bit
+</I>&gt;<i> video                  18640  1 gma500_gfx
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/log/Xorg.0.log:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/ypw0DAnz">http://pastebin.com/ypw0DAnz</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm unsure if this is only a config problem or if this is still due
+</I>&gt;<i> to some bug.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Any pointers would be much appreciated.
+</I>
+Sorry ignore the previous pastebins, those were without &quot;vga=795&quot; on the 
+kernel line, here are the correct ones:
+
+dmesg: <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/4t9L3GVm">http://pastebin.com/4t9L3GVm</A>
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+Xorg.0.log: <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/TsE4gUxW">http://pastebin.com/TsE4gUxW</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 11/03/12 23:19 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 10:32:45PM +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is still work to do but the key parts will be working. We have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bugs reported against mga1 regarding this topic.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I noticed some Canonical person working on gnome-control-center mockups
+</I>&gt;<i> for the jack detection. It might be included in 12.04, not sure. Might
+</I>&gt;<i> also be in GNOME 3.4. Probably you know more than me. Can lookup the
+</I>&gt;<i> details instead of all this guessing if you want.
+</I>
+That's David. I don't think it'll be in 3.4 but it'll certainly be part
+of 3.6 when it comes along, thus is could make backports easier in the
+future if this is on the cards.
+
+Col
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20xonotic%20and%20nexuiz&In-Reply-To=%3CCAPZ-hqRsF%2BG6t9yxcBPQ1yU0R-10PnxtF_VmNcBocaDXJ6kfMw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 12:48 AM, Charles A Edwards &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">CAE at eslrahc.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Is it intentional that we package/provides both xonotic; the
+</I>&gt;<i> successor, and nexuiz &quot;classic&quot;; now owned by IllFonic and being
+</I>&gt;<i> compl
+</I>etely rewritten for a different engine?
+&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Both are now completely different games, xonotic is not compatible
+with nexuiz servers, is still in a very early stage of it's
+development and has a really small community compared to Nexuiz. Also
+Nexuiz &quot;classic&quot; development hasn't stopped, there have been efforts
+by it's community to continue development from the last GPL release
+(2.5.2), and since some time there's been a 2.5.3 unoffcial
+pre-release floating around[1].
+
+So, to answer your question, Xonotic wont ever replace Nexuiz, they
+have become two different games.
+
+[1] <A HREF="http://eatseakittens.com/forum/server-details-maps-settings-bans-etc/unofficial-nexuiz-2-5-3-release">http://eatseakittens.com/forum/server-details-maps-settings-bans-etc/unofficial-nexuiz-2-5-3-release</A>
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+    <B>David W. Hodgins</B> 
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+<PRE>On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 08:55:22 -0400, Manuel Hiebel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">manuel at hiebel.eu</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 &#224; 14:47 +0200, Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; According to sophie it's not a new package:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://sophie.zarb.org/rpms/810fca5bd939c8e4a6858a5711c5200f">http://sophie.zarb.org/rpms/810fca5bd939c8e4a6858a5711c5200f</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yeah, i take some of my words back. But there is another problem -
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 0.6.0 seems to be in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mdv2010.2. So upgrade path from Mandriva is broken.
+</I>&gt;<i> Do we support upgrade from mandriva backport ? I'am not sure.
+</I>&gt;<i> (also maybe we should not look anymore what they are doing...
+</I>&gt;<i> and remember that the desktop support is eol:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mandriva.com/en/support/lifecycle/">http://www.mandriva.com/en/support/lifecycle/</A> )
+</I>
+I meant to raise this topic a few days ago, but got busy with
+other things.
+
+My understanding was that Magea 1 supported updating from Mandriva
+2010.2 + Contrib + PLF-Free.
+
+There were several updates submitted to qa a few days ago, that are
+only available in backports in Mdv 2010.2.
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+If we start accepting those under the exceptions rule, that allows
+packages that were present in Mdv 2010.2 but missing in Mageia 1,
+I'm very concerned that we could run into a lot more bug 2317
+problems, which would be very difficult to avoid.
+
+Either we'll have to rewrite our dependency checking scripts to
+figure out which packages need to be linked from Core Release to
+Core Updates (not simple), or link everything in Core Release to
+Core Updates, or change Core Release to be tagged as an update
+medium, which would have a massive impact on cpu usage for mgaapplet.
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+See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4814">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4814</A>
+for example.
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+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+&gt;<i> My understanding was that Magea 1 supported updating from Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> 2010.2 + Contrib + PLF-Free.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> There were several updates submitted to qa a few days ago, that are
+</I>&gt;<i> only available in backports in Mdv 2010.2.
+</I>[...]
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+IMHO backports could be &quot;supported&quot; under Mageia backports, not in regular 
+media.
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+Keeping in mind our limited resources, nonetheless, several of these bugs 
+which seemed to require workaround upon workaround, should get fixed sooner 
+rather than later, because it seems to be getting more complicated or more 
+discussed (and in generally too much resources being spent on it)
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+i'm thinking of:
+ - backports
+ - noarch linking
+ - bug 2317
+ - livemedia
+ - or in general what we promise ( or rather to be careful what and how we 
+promise):
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+if we say: &quot;there are no livemedia yet, but we're working on it to get it in 
+the next few weeks&quot; ... some people become angry, but you can also say:
+&quot;There's a major bug preventing us from making livemedia, but we're working on 
+them&quot; and possibly even updating it when it becomes clear it'll be for the 
+next release into &quot;This beta release doesn't have any livemedia, we're hoping 
+to have the next beta release containing livemedia&quot;
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+Similar with backports: it's been promised this time without timelimit, but 
+people seem to be convinced it'll never make it. 3rd party repositories 
+popping up etc... It does not make us look good. and I'm getting to the point 
+where the resources spent on discussing backports seem to be larger than the 
+eventual losses in resources that would have been due to backports being open. 
+But now of all times, backports shouldn't open, rather in the first week after 
+release of mga2 would be a nice timing.
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+to get back on topic: perhaps it's not unreasonable to allow a timelimit 
+exception, like for instance 3 or 4 days where &quot;i forgot it was freeze or 
+didn't make it in time AND it's not likely to mess everything up&quot; kind of 
+reason...
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+But i think the point is now becoming moot if temporary freeze of Beta2 is in 
+effect... (not sure if it is, but i think i saw something regarding it)
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+(about communication: maybe it's more prudent to have a messagebox above 
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/</A> telling us about various freezes and upcoming 
+soon freezes, even though as a packager it's my task to read meeting logs and 
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+<PRE>Le dimanche 11 mars 2012 22:25:32, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> But so far, I think that we are basically and roughly coherent when
+</I>&gt;<i> compared to the last freeze period. Therefore, I do not see the need to
+</I>&gt;<i> communicate a change when there was in fact no changes on the side of
+</I>&gt;<i> the policy. And sorry, I cannot communicate to say that what people
+</I>&gt;<i> remember do not correspond to what was done.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+As usually people who does agree says nothing, maybe I can say I agree the 
+hardness of this freeze. I mean the way it is being kept.
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+While I am happy to say thank you to TV for all his hard work, his unlucky 
+attempt should drive all of us to forget anything but bugs.mageia.org till the 
+release : a distro with lots of software can be killed by very simple bugs, 
+and we have a lot of them concerning packages without maintainers...
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+&gt;<i> Sorry ignore the previous pastebins, those were without &quot;vga=795&quot; on the
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+Just a quick reminder that the version and release of a package in cauldron 
+must ALWAYS be higher (or equal) to that in Mageia 1. Otherwise we cannot 
+guarantee upgrade from Mageia 1 to Mageia 2. Since we are in version freeze 
+we must check this with more accuracy.
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+Packagers, let's keep this (obvious) rule in mind (I'm not sure it's 
+enforced in the buildsystem yet, but I may be wrong).
+
+QA Team, before validating an update, please check the version in cauldron.
+
+BTW : do we have a check.mageia.org page to spot packages for which this is 
+not the case, if there are any?
+
+Maybe this reminder is not useful at all, but I think it's always better to 
+send it rather than not.
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+Best regards
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+Samuel &quot;Gives lessons and does nothing&quot; Verschelde
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+    <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a quick reminder that the version and release of a package in cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> must ALWAYS be higher (or equal) to that in Mageia 1. Otherwise we cannot
+</I>
+I would explicitely add to this to check also updates, backports
+_and_ testing repos...
+
+&gt;<i> guarantee upgrade from Mageia 1 to Mageia 2. Since we are in version freeze
+</I>&gt;<i> we must check this with more accuracy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Packagers, let's keep this (obvious) rule in mind (I'm not sure it's
+</I>&gt;<i> enforced in the buildsystem yet, but I may be wrong).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> QA Team, before validating an update, please check the version in cauldron.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW : do we have a check.mageia.org page to spot packages for which this is
+</I>&gt;<i> not the case, if there are any?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe this reminder is not useful at all, but I think it's always better to
+</I>&gt;<i> send it rather than not.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel &quot;Gives lessons and does nothing&quot; Verschelde
+</I>
+
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+J.A. Magallon &lt;jamagallon()ono!com&gt;        \               Winter is coming...
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+    <B>Sander Lepik</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Anyway, this is my justification. I have packages ready to roll.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can this go it? I think it's worth it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>Working sound is for many users a must have. So if PA 2.0 will get us 
+better support here then i'm all in. No point to wait another year to 
+get this support. Especially if we have upstream with us to fis problems 
+ASAP.
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+    <B>Funda Wang</B> 
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+We should get it in.
+
+2012/3/12 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> security thing.. busy atm, cannot handle immediately
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Olav
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ---------- &#24050;&#36716;&#21457;&#37038;&#20214; ----------
+</I>&gt;<i> From:&#160;Philip Withnall &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">install-module at master.gnome.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To:&#160;FTP Releases &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftp-release-list at gnome.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Cc:
+</I>&gt;<i> Date:&#160;Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:27:46 +0000 (UTC)
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject:&#160;libgdata 0.11.1
+</I>&gt;<i> About libgdata
+</I>&gt;<i> ==============
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> libgdata is a GLib-based library for accessing online service APIs
+</I>&gt;<i> using the GData protocol &#8212; most notably, Google's services. It
+</I>&gt;<i> provides APIs to access the common Google services, and has full
+</I>&gt;<i> asynchronous support.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> News
+</I>&gt;<i> ====
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Major changes:
+</I>&gt;<i> * Add a --with-ca-certs configure argument to allow specifying the system CA cert file &#8212; an important security fix to allow libgdata to verify all TLS
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;certificates before accepting them
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Bugs fixed:
+</I>&gt;<i> * Bug 667577 &#8212; fix introspection for srcdir != builddir builds
+</I>&gt;<i> * Bug 668365 &#8212; libgdata 0.10.x link error because of exported symbols that don't exist
+</I>&gt;<i> * Bug 671535 &#8212; Security issue in libgdata
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Updated translations:
+</I>&gt;<i> * be (Kasia Bondarava)
+</I>&gt;<i> * te (Praveen Illa)
+</I>&gt;<i> * uk (Korostil Daniel)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ChangeLog
+</I>&gt;<i> =========
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://download.gnome.org/sources/libgdata/0.11/libgdata-0.11.1.changes">http://download.gnome.org/sources/libgdata/0.11/libgdata-0.11.1.changes</A> &#160;(3.18K)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Download
+</I>&gt;<i> ========
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://download.gnome.org/sources/libgdata/0.11/libgdata-0.11.1.tar.xz">http://download.gnome.org/sources/libgdata/0.11/libgdata-0.11.1.tar.xz</A> (1.10M)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;sha256sum: ec96788b641f357745646b5645196787bf002182c95298ae80b84b935c69759b
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> ftp-release-list mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ftp-release-list at gnome.org</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 11/03/12 22:32 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Can this go in? I think it's worth it.
+</I>
+Forgot to add the bug link:
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+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=225#c27">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=225#c27</A>
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+As someone who also has to field support from upstream, I know this
+issue comes up a lot.
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+I'd very much appreciate it if we could reduce my explanation overhead
+on this matter :D
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+Col
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
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+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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+&gt;<i> to get back on topic: perhaps it's not unreasonable to allow a timelimit 
+</I>&gt;<i> exception, like for instance 3 or 4 days where &quot;i forgot it was freeze or 
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't make it in time AND it's not likely to mess everything up&quot; kind of 
+</I>&gt;<i> reason...
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+That was already discussed when we discussed the release cycle. And
+basically, that would just &quot;let's reduce the freeze by 3/4 days in a
+more inefficient way&quot;. You just move the bickering at the 3/4 days limit
+( &quot;but it could have bene if I had submitted yesterday&quot; ) instead of the
+beggining of the freeze, and you take time to the people who are
+submitting, since they get message, have to warn packager about &quot;it
+doesn't work&quot; ( as it happened several time last freeze period ).
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+So next time, maybe we should have a pure good faith based system,
+instead of enforcing it with youri, since every attempt to enforce lead
+to discussion. This way :
+- we do not change anything, so no time to invest in too much
+communication
+- no time lost by sysadmin to put the freeze, even if that's minor
+( except when stuff break )
+- everybody can do as he see fit
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+&gt;<i> (about communication: maybe it's more prudent to have a messagebox above 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/</A> telling us about various freezes and upcoming 
+</I>&gt;<i> soon freezes, even though as a packager it's my task to read meeting logs and 
+</I>&gt;<i> keeping myself up2date)
+</I>
+Patch welcome, but frankly, I think there is a point where the duty of
+being informed must be on the packagers. It is rather depressing to
+realize that people do not read the announce you send ( and what is more
+depressing is the number of those that don't once you start to dig out
+).
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+If some people missed the announce, maybe we should ask them &quot;where do
+you read information about the project and where don't you read&quot;, so we
+can identify the communication channel that should be used and those
+that shouldn't, as i am not sure that hammering more is the solution.
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 11/03/12 17:18 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Bugfix release upstream.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This includes some runtime systemd autodetection-foo to prevent the need
+</I>&gt;<i> for hardcoding the listen path. This, in theory, means we can drop
+</I>&gt;<i> listen.conf from the systemd package, thus making rsyslog work under
+</I>&gt;<i> non-systemd boots too.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> We've previously OK'ed updates to mga1 of updated rsyslog versions so
+</I>&gt;<i> this should be a relatively uncontroversial push.
+</I>
+Ping!
+
+I'm waiting for this so I can submit a new systemd which I'd like to
+ensure is part of beta2.
+
+Thanks.
+
+Col
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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+<PRE>Le lundi 12 mars 2012 &#224; 10:41 +0000, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 11/03/12 17:18 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Bugfix release upstream.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This includes some runtime systemd autodetection-foo to prevent the need
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for hardcoding the listen path. This, in theory, means we can drop
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; listen.conf from the systemd package, thus making rsyslog work under
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; non-systemd boots too.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We've previously OK'ed updates to mga1 of updated rsyslog versions so
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this should be a relatively uncontroversial push.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Ping!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm waiting for this so I can submit a new systemd which I'd like to
+</I>&gt;<i> ensure is part of beta2.
+</I>
+Pushed.
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+-- 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 12/03/12 10:45 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Le lundi 12 mars 2012 &#224; 10:41 +0000, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 11/03/12 17:18 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Bugfix release upstream.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This includes some runtime systemd autodetection-foo to prevent the need
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for hardcoding the listen path. This, in theory, means we can drop
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> listen.conf from the systemd package, thus making rsyslog work under
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> non-systemd boots too.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We've previously OK'ed updates to mga1 of updated rsyslog versions so
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this should be a relatively uncontroversial push.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ping!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm waiting for this so I can submit a new systemd which I'd like to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ensure is part of beta2.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Pushed.
+</I>
+Many thanks, misc. Much appreciated. The corresponding update to systemd
+also now pushed.
+
+KUTGW :)
+
+Col
+
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bsoft-commits%5D%20%5B3417%5D%20Updating%20Spanish%20translation&In-Reply-To=%3CCAONrEtYCcMmPg49iwtDqgURupSoyLuB7ZmtsX%3DWZ27P18v19FQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>On 12 March 2012 13:44,  &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Revision 3417 Author jacen Date 2012-03-12 13:44:33 +0100 (Mon, 12 Mar 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Updating Spanish translation
+</I>
+that doesn't reflect the actual changes:
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+&gt;<i> Modified Paths
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> system-config-printer/trunk/po/es.po
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified: system-config-printer/trunk/po/es.po
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- system-config-printer/trunk/po/es.po	2012-03-12 09:50:33 UTC (rev 3416)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ system-config-printer/trunk/po/es.po	2012-03-12 12:44:33 UTC (rev 3417)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -7,9 +7,9 @@
+</I>&gt;<i>  &quot;Project-Id-Version: system-config-printer\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &quot;Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla\n">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla\n</A>&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &quot;POT-Creation-Date: 2008-08-27 16:54-0400\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> -&quot;PO-Revision-Date: 2012-03-12 02:32+0000\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> +&quot;PO-Revision-Date: 2012-03-12 12:42+0000\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &quot;Last-Translator: Luis Llave &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luis0siul at gmail.com</A>&gt;\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> -&quot;Language-Team: LANGUAGE &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">LL at li.org</A>&gt;\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> +&quot;Language-Team: LANGUAGE &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mdktrans at blogdrake.net</A>&gt;\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &quot;MIME-Version: 1.0\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>  &quot;Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n&quot;
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+(freeze check on submission works nicely btw :P  my script commits +
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+    <B>Funda Wang</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Package%20push%20request%3A%20oxygen-gtk%20and%20oxygen-gtk3&In-Reply-To=%3CCAOfq2QRvSDnaT88hhFiNHm2rnR0Lt5-ZdCmSqeX--0Cjk6LmPA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3">fundawang at gmail.com
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+As oxygen is our default theme for gtk2 and gtk3, I think we should
+mark these two packages as important packages, and push updated
+version as soon as possible. Plus, the new versions fixed a nasty bug
+that it will crash theme selector when changing from oxygen to another
+theme. See: <A HREF="https://projects.kde.org/news/127">https://projects.kde.org/news/127</A>
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+I've committed the new versions already.
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+Regards.
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+&gt;<i> I would say yes, we have 0.11.0, and 0.11.1 fixed a security problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> We should get it in.
+</I>
+Funda committed the changes. Please submit. Note that the NEWS file
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+Regards,
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Fwd%3A%20libgdata%200.11.1%20%28security%20release%29&In-Reply-To=%3CCACYHsMxuZOG56vPVWqvbRO6R%2B%3D4_yv4O0Ft3HdsCcDM_XaxTWw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 05:39:30PM +0800, Funda Wang wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I would say yes, we have 0.11.0, and 0.11.1 fixed a security problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We should get it in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Funda committed the changes. Please submit. Note that the NEWS file
+</I>&gt;<i> mentions some configure option, but that isn't needed actually.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Pushed
+</I>
+&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Olav
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+Anne
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+    <B>tux99-mga at uridium.org</B> 
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+    <I>Mon Mar 12 16:19:57 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Mon, 12 Mar 2012, zezinho wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Le lundi 12 mars 2012 00:38:00, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Sorry ignore the previous pastebins, those were without &quot;vga=795&quot; on the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; kernel line, here are the correct ones:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Please, maybe this could go only into the bug report?
+</I>
+There is no bug report because I don't even know if this is a bug or a 
+simple configuration issue, that's what I'm trying to find out.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+    <I>Mon Mar 12 16:20:21 CET 2012</I>
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+&gt;<i> As oxygen is our default theme for gtk2 and gtk3, I think we should
+</I>&gt;<i> mark these two packages as important packages, and push updated
+</I>&gt;<i> version as soon as possible. Plus, the new versions fixed a nasty bug
+</I>&gt;<i> that it will crash theme selector when changing from oxygen to another
+</I>&gt;<i> theme. See: <A HREF="https://projects.kde.org/news/127">https://projects.kde.org/news/127</A>
+</I>
+Actually it makes other program to crash such as net_applet, mgaapplet, ...
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+So +1
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+<PRE>12.03.2012 00:32, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>
+Hi,
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+&gt;<i> We're aiming to get a PA 2.0 release out very soon (within the next 4
+</I>&gt;<i> weeks).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> Can this go it? I think it's worth it.
+</I>
+I think pulseaudio is an acceptable candidate for exception here, mainly
+because
+- it fixes some big audio usability issues (that will only affect more
+  and more systems during MGA2 lifetime) with the new features, and
+- our package maintainer is the upstream maintainer as well, allowing
+  efficient handling of any bugreports.
+
+However, I know I'm probably more lax here than others, so this requires
+the input of other release managers before a decision.
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+We will have Python3 in Mageia 2, but we don't build modules in the Py3 
+version.
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+<A HREF="http://pkgs.org/search/?keyword=python3">http://pkgs.org/search/?keyword=python3</A> is showing a long list of 
+modules for Fedora and very short list for Mageia.
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+Preparing Py3 versions is quite simple - here is an example 
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/python-pyparsing/current/SPECS/python-pyparsing.spec?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/python-pyparsing/current/SPECS/python-pyparsing.spec?view=markup</A>
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+We have just to prepare two concurrently build roots, one for each 
+python version.
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+Fedora has a list of Py3 compatible modules 
+<A HREF="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Python3">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Python3</A>
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+    <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> 
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+&gt;<i> As usually people who does agree says nothing
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 12 March 2012 17:44,  &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> convert to utf8
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified Paths
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm/rpm-helper/trunk/AUTHORS
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified: rpm/rpm-helper/trunk/AUTHORS
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- rpm/rpm-helper/trunk/AUTHORS	2012-03-12 16:24:14 UTC (rev 3423)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ rpm/rpm-helper/trunk/AUTHORS	2012-03-12 16:44:57 UTC (rev 3424)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> -Fr\xE9d\xE9ric Lepied &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">flepied at mandriva.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> +Fr&#233;d&#233;ric Lepied &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">flepied at mandriva.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>  Herton Ronaldo Krzesinski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">herton at mandriva.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>  Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tvignaud at mandriva.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>  Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at mandriva.org</A>&gt;
+</I>
+Time to kill obsolete emails. Fred has gone away from mdv a loooong time ago.
+Ditto for Herton, me, yourself, ...
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 12/03/2012 17:49, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 12 March 2012 17:44,&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> convert to utf8
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Modified Paths
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rpm/rpm-helper/trunk/AUTHORS
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Modified: rpm/rpm-helper/trunk/AUTHORS
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --- rpm/rpm-helper/trunk/AUTHORS	2012-03-12 16:24:14 UTC (rev 3423)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +++ rpm/rpm-helper/trunk/AUTHORS	2012-03-12 16:44:57 UTC (rev 3424)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -Fr\xE9d\xE9ric Lepied&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">flepied at mandriva.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +Fr&#233;d&#233;ric Lepied&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">flepied at mandriva.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   Herton Ronaldo Krzesinski&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">herton at mandriva.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   Thierry Vignaud&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tvignaud at mandriva.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   Guillaume Rousse&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at mandriva.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Time to kill obsolete emails. Fred has gone away from mdv a loooong time ago.
+</I>&gt;<i> Ditto for Herton, me, yourself, ...
+</I>Indeed, I didn't read carefully enough :)
+
+Anyway, that will be for next release, I just tagged 0.24.7.
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+-- 
+BOFH excuse #338:
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+old inkjet cartridges emanate barium-based fumes
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+<PRE>The 0.24.7 release just fixes documentation about add_syslog macro, and 
+drop old sysklogd dead code.
+-- 
+BOFH excuse #120:
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%09task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2&In-Reply-To=%3CCAONrEtYdxaCFEGUhob2-w_PuOpaRJ%2BycCYu7HsLvbTVfEeUBpw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>On 12 March 2012 18:06, ovitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> ovitters &lt;ovitters&gt; 1:3.3.2-8.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 223037
+</I>&gt;<i> - ensure gnome-utils is installed (mga#4903)
+</I>
+1) This is not what you've done.
+What you've done is suggesting many GNOME packages that don't came
+from gnome-utils
+but come from their own SRPMS.
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+2) Also as those are suggests, they'll never end on the install DVD,
+thus defeating
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+&gt;<i> However, I do feel we need to be more generally open to freeze pushes.
+</I>&gt;<i> The justification in this case, IMO, was sufficient and in line with the
+</I>&gt;<i> previous interpretations of policy we have expected in the past, but I
+</I>&gt;<i> completely respect misc if he still disagrees.
+</I>
+I also believe we should be more open to pushes for packages like
+xonotic, i.e. &quot;unimportant&quot; leaf packages, since having the new version
+for software like xonotic is generally more important than having zero
+regressions (which are in any case limited to xonotic only, and can be
+fixed later).
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+Line would have to be drawn somewhere, though (otherwise it would become
+a mess, I guess), and I'm really not sure right now where it should
+exactly be then....
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+This is just my opinion, not based on any previous discussion.
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%09task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2&In-Reply-To=%3C20120312174052.GB10572%40bkor.dhs.org%3E"
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+<PRE>On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:16:37PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 12 March 2012 18:06, ovitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ovitters &lt;ovitters&gt; 1:3.3.2-8.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; + Revision: 223037
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - ensure gnome-utils is installed (mga#4903)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) This is not what you've done.
+</I>&gt;<i> What you've done is suggesting many GNOME packages that don't came
+</I>&gt;<i> from gnome-utils
+</I>&gt;<i> but come from their own SRPMS.
+</I>
+gnome-utils was split up into various tarballs:
+<A HREF="http://live.gnome.org/GnomeUtils">http://live.gnome.org/GnomeUtils</A>
+
+task-gnome contained only a &quot;Obsoletes: gnome-utils&quot;. I replaced it with
+suggests for the splitted packages to ensure that gnome-screenshot (the
+bug) as well as the other replacements would be installed.
+
+Or do you mean that above webpage is wrong? Could be, didn't really
+check that thoroughly what packages replaced gnome-utils.
+
+&gt;<i> 2) Also as those are suggests, they'll never end on the install DVD,
+</I>&gt;<i> thus defeating
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot; ensure gnome-utils is installed&quot;
+</I>
+I have asked many times about task-gnome and task-gnome-minimal and
+everyone has their own definition. I've asked various times if the
+&quot;GNOME&quot; option in the installer could please reflect &quot;GNOME&quot;, and not
+some weird cut-down version of it called &quot;task-gnome-minimal&quot;, but
+haven't gotten very far with that.
+
+I don't want to step on toes and just ignore the &quot;task-gnome-minimal&quot; vs
+&quot;task-gnome&quot;, etc (I still don't get why we have -minimal; I also don't
+see why we have task-gnome though.. seems that not even Nautilus would
+be installed), so I added Suggests instead.
+
+I don't really see any difference between either having the
+gnome-screenshot as a Suggests in task-gnome (which the installer
+doesn't install, it looks at task-gnome-minimal) or as Suggests in
+task-gnome-minimal (which won't end up on the DVD apparently).
+If task-gnome-minimal is &quot;not to be touched&quot; and task-gnome is not
+installed by the installer.. what am I to do to fix bugs? Suggests seems
+like the only option. Furthermore, I've also added a gnome-screenshot
+Suggests to gnome-shell.
+
+IMO mga#4903 was an avoidable bug. As bugs are discovered on resulting
+dependency problems, I want to fix every case. To me it seems the wrong
+way to deal with this, but I rather raise &quot;-minimal&quot; strangeness after
+Mageia 2 release so I can point at the resulting bugs.
+
+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+<PRE>On 12 March 2012 18:40, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - ensure gnome-utils is installed (mga#4903)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1) This is not what you've done.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What you've done is suggesting many GNOME packages that don't came
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from gnome-utils
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but come from their own SRPMS.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome-utils was split up into various tarballs:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://live.gnome.org/GnomeUtils">http://live.gnome.org/GnomeUtils</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> task-gnome contained only a &quot;Obsoletes: gnome-utils&quot;. I replaced it with
+</I>&gt;<i> suggests for the splitted packages to ensure that gnome-screenshot (the
+</I>&gt;<i> bug) as well as the other replacements would be installed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Or do you mean that above webpage is wrong? Could be, didn't really
+</I>&gt;<i> check that thoroughly what packages replaced gnome-utils.
+</I>
+I means your log messages isn't what you've done.
+You'ven't add any require or suggest on gnome-utils but on a number of
+new gnome packages.
+Your log messages should describe that.
+ not tha
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 2) Also as those are suggests, they'll never end on the install DVD,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thus defeating
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot; ensure gnome-utils is installed&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have asked many times about task-gnome and task-gnome-minimal and
+</I>&gt;<i> everyone has their own definition. I've asked various times if the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;GNOME&quot; option in the installer could please reflect &quot;GNOME&quot;, and not
+</I>&gt;<i> some weird cut-down version of it called &quot;task-gnome-minimal&quot;, but
+</I>&gt;<i> haven't gotten very far with that.
+</I>
+I'm not speaking about task-gnome*, I'm writing about the fact you're
+using suggests tags and thus that those packages will never land
+on the install DVDs.
+
+&gt;<i> I don't want to step on toes and just ignore the &quot;task-gnome-minimal&quot; vs
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;task-gnome&quot;, etc (I still don't get why we have -minimal; I also don't
+</I>&gt;<i> see why we have task-gnome though.. seems that not even Nautilus would
+</I>&gt;<i> be installed), so I added Suggests instead.
+</I>
+Again offtopic.
+
+&gt;<i> I don't really see any difference between either having the
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome-screenshot as a Suggests in task-gnome (which the installer
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't install, it looks at task-gnome-minimal) or as Suggests in
+</I>&gt;<i> task-gnome-minimal (which won't end up on the DVD apparently).
+</I>&gt;<i> If task-gnome-minimal is &quot;not to be touched&quot; and task-gnome is not
+</I>&gt;<i> installed by the installer.. what am I to do to fix bugs? Suggests seems
+</I>&gt;<i> like the only option. Furthermore, I've also added a gnome-screenshot
+</I>&gt;<i> Suggests to gnome-shell.
+</I>
+Again this is offtopic, a suggests will just not be present on install DVDs
+What'more, the logical place is task-gnome*, not gnome-shell.
+gnome-shell doesn't need this package, it works without.
+If the GNOME desktop needs it in order to work, then it should be required
+by task-gnome, not by another gnome-shell.
+
+&gt;<i> IMO mga#4903 was an avoidable bug. As bugs are discovered on resulting
+</I>&gt;<i> dependency problems, I want to fix every case. To me it seems the wrong
+</I>&gt;<i> way to deal with this, but I rather raise &quot;-minimal&quot; strangeness after
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2 release so I can point at the resulting bugs.
+</I>
+Again my initial message is about that the suggested packages won't ever
+land on the install DVDs again.
+And we should stop bloating the net install with suggests at all the
+stages of the stack.
+I have to break many suggests (or requires for what matters) cycles that
+resulted in us having a minimal install of 800Mb with X11.
+
+Obviously gnome-shell doesn't need this package in order to run, so
+it should not be suggested by gnome-shell.
+If we want a better GNOME experience, it should be done in task-gnome.
+If some people objects bloating task-gnome*, disscuss with them
+instead of hidding those suggests lower in the statck...
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+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%20task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2&In-Reply-To=%3C20120312175724.GE10601%40bkor.dhs.org%3E"
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+<PRE>On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:53:23PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> If we want a better GNOME experience, it should be done in task-gnome.
+</I>
+I'll just revert and then wontfix the bug.
+
+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:53:23PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If we want a better GNOME experience, it should be done in task-gnome.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll just revert and then wontfix the bug.
+</I>
+This is not what I told you.
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+&gt;<i> The 0.24.7 release just fixes documentation about add_syslog macro, and
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+</I>&gt;<i> Line would have to be drawn somewhere, though (otherwise it would become
+</I>&gt;<i> a mess, I guess), and I'm really not sure right now where it should
+</I>&gt;<i> exactly be then....
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+</I>&gt;<i> This is just my opinion, not based on any previous discussion.
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+Given Thierry's innumerable contributions and experience, I would
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 12 March 2012 18:57, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:53:23PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; If we want a better GNOME experience, it should be done in task-gnome.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'll just revert and then wontfix the bug.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This is not what I told you.
+</I>&gt;<i> I told you that:
+</I>&gt;<i> - suggests doesn't garanty it'll land on the install CD
+</I>&gt;<i> - it should be in task-gnome
+</I>
+GNOME *does* call gnome-screenshot (the command). It is not a library so
+it is not strictly needed (only if you press Prt Scrn).
+
+I rather WONTFIX such bugs than spend loads time arguing about that
+task-gnome again.
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+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:19 PM, Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Line would have to be drawn somewhere, though (otherwise it would become
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a mess, I guess), and I'm really not sure right now where it should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> exactly be then....
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is just my opinion, not based on any previous discussion.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (Also in the spirit of just a humble opinion:)
+</I>&gt;<i> Given Thierry's innumerable contributions and experience, I would
+</I>&gt;<i> not object in the slightest to an exception made for him.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We can be confident that the package will be done correctly plus
+</I>&gt;<i> it will be a nice, easily-installed addition to Mageia.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, rules need to exist but flexibility is sometimes warranted in
+</I>&gt;<i> the interest of good will and showing appreciation.
+</I>
+Exceptions for some people make no sense. Anyone can update a package
+to a version with annoying bugs.
+
+Exceptions for some low impact packages make more sense, if everyone
+agrees there is no impact on other packages (and especially on
+installer or cd/dvd contents which can not be fixed by updates).
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+I don't mind exceptions for low impact packages were people will want
+the latest version, but then people handling exceptions will spend
+their time checking if the exceptions for such packages make sense
+instead of focusing on fixing more important things for the release.
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+<PRE>On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 18:18, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 07:02:25PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 12 March 2012 18:57, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 06:53:23PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; If we want a better GNOME experience, it should be done in task-gnome.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I'll just revert and then wontfix the bug.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is not what I told you.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I told you that:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - suggests doesn't garanty it'll land on the install CD
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - it should be in task-gnome
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> GNOME *does* call gnome-screenshot (the command). It is not a library so
+</I>&gt;<i> it is not strictly needed (only if you press Prt Scrn).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I rather WONTFIX such bugs than spend loads time arguing about that
+</I>&gt;<i> task-gnome again.
+</I>
+It should be a Requires if the code calls it and a feature is broken without it.
+If it is gnome-shell or gnome-panel which call it, they need to require it.
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+&gt;<i> Revision 3428 Author pterjan Date 2012-03-12 19:13:42 +0100 (Mon, 12 Mar
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+</I>&gt;<i> Get rid of ERR log level
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+renaming ERR as ERROR would be a better log message, wouldn't it?
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+&gt;<i> Le lundi 12 mars 2012 &#224; 08:29 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to get back on topic: perhaps it's not unreasonable to allow a timelimit
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; exception, like for instance 3 or 4 days where &quot;i forgot it was freeze or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; didn't make it in time AND it's not likely to mess everything up&quot; kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; reason...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> That was already discussed when we discussed the release cycle. And
+</I>&gt;<i> basically, that would just &quot;let's reduce the freeze by 3/4 days in a
+</I>&gt;<i> more inefficient way&quot;. You just move the bickering at the 3/4 days limit
+</I>&gt;<i> ( &quot;but it could have bene if I had submitted yesterday&quot; ) instead of the
+</I>&gt;<i> beggining of the freeze, and you take time to the people who are
+</I>&gt;<i> submitting, since they get message, have to warn packager about &quot;it
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't work&quot; ( as it happened several time last freeze period ).
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> So next time, maybe we should have a pure good faith based system,
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> - everybody can do as he see fit
+</I>
+I'll take this suggestion as a cynic suggestions and ignore it for now
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+[...]
+&gt;<i> Patch welcome, but frankly, I think there is a point where the duty of
+</I>&gt;<i> being informed must be on the packagers. It is rather depressing to
+</I>&gt;<i> realize that people do not read the announce you send ( and what is more
+</I>&gt;<i> depressing is the number of those that don't once you start to dig out
+</I>&gt;<i> ).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If some people missed the announce, maybe we should ask them &quot;where do
+</I>&gt;<i> you read information about the project and where don't you read&quot;, so we
+</I>&gt;<i> can identify the communication channel that should be used and those
+</I>&gt;<i> that shouldn't, as i am not sure that hammering more is the solution.
+</I>
+I do understand both your pov, and i do remember that discussion.
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+IMHO: good strict policies are good, and exceptions are exceptions.
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+but we should also try to prevent irritation if it's possible... we're short 
+on contributors and I don't like to decrease motivation... I guess that makes 
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 12 March 2012 19:13, &#160;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Revision 3428 Author pterjan Date 2012-03-12 19:13:42 +0100 (Mon, 12 Mar
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+</I>&gt;<i> renaming ERR as ERROR would be a better log message, wouldn't it?
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+It wouldn't be accurate.
+Both ERROR and ERR existed, I removed ERR.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+Please push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakx-net &amp; drakxtools.
+
+then once drakx-installer-binaries &amp; drakx-net are uploaded and in
+hdlists, please upload drakx-installer-images &amp; drakx-installer-stage2
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+drakxtools:
+- fix mgaapplet crashing on live migration when there's a new major version of
+  perl (mga#3042)
+- reduce resident memory of net_applet (5Mb aka 11%) &amp; mgapplet (7Mb aka 14%)
+- updated translations
+
+drakx-installer-binaries:
+- do not try to load obsolete sqlzma &amp; squashfs_lzma kernel modules
+- recognize c67x00, imx21-hcd, fhci, isp1362-hcd, oxu210hp-hcd &amp; renesas-usbhs
+  USB host drivers (mga#4905)
+
+drakx-net:
+- adapt to drakxtools-13.92+ API change
+  (reduces net_applet resident memory)
+- drakfirewall: list SSL flavor of POP3/IMAP/SMTP ports
+- updated translations
+
+drakx-installer-images:
+- include more USB host controller modules (mga#4905)
+(DEPENDS on d-i-binaries)
+
+drakx-installer-stage2:
+- recognize c67x00, imx21-hcd, fhci, isp1362-hcd, oxu210hp-hcd &amp; renesas-usbhs
+  USB host drivers (mga#4905)
+- use lxdm for LXDE
+- updated translations
+(DEPENDS on drakx-net &amp; d-i-binaries)
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakx-net &amp; drakxtools.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+submitted. In progress
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> then once drakx-installer-binaries &amp; drakx-net are uploaded and in
+</I>&gt;<i> hdlists, please upload drakx-installer-images &amp; drakx-installer-stage2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> drakxtools:
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix mgaapplet crashing on live migration when there's a new major
+</I>&gt;<i> version of
+</I>&gt;<i>  perl (mga#3042)
+</I>&gt;<i> - reduce resident memory of net_applet (5Mb aka 11%) &amp; mgapplet (7Mb aka
+</I>&gt;<i> 14%)
+</I>&gt;<i> - updated translations
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> drakx-installer-binaries:
+</I>&gt;<i> - do not try to load obsolete sqlzma &amp; squashfs_lzma kernel modules
+</I>&gt;<i> - recognize c67x00, imx21-hcd, fhci, isp1362-hcd, oxu210hp-hcd &amp;
+</I>&gt;<i> renesas-usbhs
+</I>&gt;<i>  USB host drivers (mga#4905)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> drakx-net:
+</I>&gt;<i> - adapt to drakxtools-13.92+ API change
+</I>&gt;<i>  (reduces net_applet resident memory)
+</I>&gt;<i> - drakfirewall: list SSL flavor of POP3/IMAP/SMTP ports
+</I>&gt;<i> - updated translations
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> drakx-installer-images:
+</I>&gt;<i> - include more USB host controller modules (mga#4905)
+</I>&gt;<i> (DEPENDS on d-i-binaries)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> drakx-installer-stage2:
+</I>&gt;<i> - recognize c67x00, imx21-hcd, fhci, isp1362-hcd, oxu210hp-hcd &amp;
+</I>&gt;<i> renesas-usbhs
+</I>&gt;<i>  USB host drivers (mga#4905)
+</I>&gt;<i> - use lxdm for LXDE
+</I>&gt;<i> - updated translations
+</I>&gt;<i> (DEPENDS on drakx-net &amp; d-i-binaries)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See you
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Anne
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+</I>OK, I want a new version of cowsay. Right now. Otherwise I'm leaving. 
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+<PRE>Le lundi 12 mars 2012 &#224; 16:20 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 12 March 2012 16:08, Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As oxygen is our default theme for gtk2 and gtk3, I think we should
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mark these two packages as important packages, and push updated
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; version as soon as possible. Plus, the new versions fixed a nasty bug
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that it will crash theme selector when changing from oxygen to another
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; theme. See: <A HREF="https://projects.kde.org/news/127">https://projects.kde.org/news/127</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually it makes other program to crash such as net_applet, mgaapplet, ...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So +1
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+&gt;<i> 12.03.2012 00:32, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We're aiming to get a PA 2.0 release out very soon (within the next 4
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; weeks).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Can this go it? I think it's worth it.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I think pulseaudio is an acceptable candidate for exception here, mainly
+</I>&gt;<i> because
+</I>&gt;<i> - it fixes some big audio usability issues (that will only affect more
+</I>&gt;<i>   and more systems during MGA2 lifetime) with the new features, and
+</I>&gt;<i> - our package maintainer is the upstream maintainer as well, allowing
+</I>&gt;<i>   efficient handling of any bugreports.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> However, I know I'm probably more lax here than others, so this requires
+</I>&gt;<i> the input of other release managers before a decision.
+</I>
+For the sake of documenting :
+
+- I have seen that Ubuntu precise still ship 1.1, and they aim for a
+much longer support than us ( iirc, 5 years this time ). They also plan
+to release 1 week before us :
+<A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule</A>
+
+- Fedora, also usually shipping latest version ( or even shipping git
+snapshot of the glibc during the freeze ), do not have it in rawhide for
+now, and not in Fedora 17. The next release is 1 week after us :
+<A HREF="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/17/Schedule">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/17/Schedule</A>
+
+While Ubuntu do not ship kernel 3.3 in Precise ( but have backported the
+jack detection stuff ), Fedora 17 does have it.
+
+So both of them would benefit from shipping PA 2.0 instead of 1.1, and
+they didn't chose to do so. They also have likely more people working on
+it, and likely a wider array of testers than us. 
+
+However, ubuntu decide to use some kind of patches to PA for the jack
+detection part.
+
+
+The next issue I have is that beside adding bug fixes, that's still a
+2.0. While version number are just version number, as said on
+<A HREF="http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Notes/1.0">http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Notes/1.0</A> , we do
+not have much information on what got changed, and the current page is
+rather scarce :
+<A HREF="http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/Developer/ReleasePlanning">http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/Developer/ReleasePlanning</A>
+
+So I personally cannot evaluate how disturbing they would be, or what
+they would impact. And sorry, I cannot say &quot;yes&quot; if I think I have not
+enough information to evaluate. 
+
+That was my 2nd point.
+
+
+The third point is that you say you will revert if there is a problem,
+but I would make sure that we clearly define what is a problem in a way
+that do not suffer from any problem of interpretation. Because if we are
+not clear now, we will just push the discussion to later and that's not
+the moment usually. 
+So I want to make sure that we all fully agree on what would trigger a
+reverse before even thinking to say &quot;yes&quot; to the request. Because
+despite asking during meeting, not everybody was on the same wavelength
+for version freeze, and I see no reason to have the same problem a 2nd
+time. And I want to make sure that if we revert, there will be no last
+minute negotiation, no matter how harsh would be a revert. 
+
+So i would say 'no' until we have such document. What would be in there
+is left open. For example, one of the criteria could be a deadline for
+the release of 2.0. If the release slip only of 1 second, that's too
+late and we revert. The current target date is 26/03, and we have our
+release freeze on 07/04. So I would say that if PA is not released on
+26/03, that's too late. 
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+Or we can say &quot;if there is 1 bug written as critical on our bugzilla, or
+the one of PA and not fixed on XX&quot;. Or anything.
+
+Without clear conditions being agreed first, I would say &quot;no&quot;, that's my
+3rd reason.
+
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+And while I do not doubt this would be really useful for free software
+to have a bunch of testers with our users, and that free software
+benefit from shipping RC in distribution, I still think that the beta
+are here to fix our bugs rather than those of upstream, and that our
+users are not guinea pigs for upstream. That's not exactly what we
+promised to them, and for that reason alone, I would also say &quot;no&quot; for
+now, and that's a 4th reason.
+
+
+Finally, I would like to remind that pulseaudio is basically installed
+on every installation besides servers, and is critical to the sound
+infrastructure. And so, just for the fact that this is central, it
+should not be version upgraded if that was not really planned, just for
+a feature, for simple risk prevention. We were praised for being stable
+just because we basically did several months of debug, and I think we
+should strive to keep that reputation, by reusing the same simple recipe
+( ie, being cautious and do really more test ). Being rock solid stable
+is the only thing where we seems to all agree in our previous
+discussion.  
+
+
+And being central to both KDE and GNOME, it would be present on the
+livecd and would not be upgraded  and as such, and because some people
+use them as liveusb ( ie, without any upgrade ), we cannot treat this as
+&quot;we can upgrade later if it slip&quot;, because we cannot for some people. 
+
+And as a side note, I would also remind that some people ( like Pierre
+Jarillon, for example ) complained there is _too_ much to download after
+a first installation, and why we shouldn't reduce the number of bugfixes
+for that, we can at least try to not plan to have more of them.
+
+And that's my 5th reason.
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+So yes, I understand that you would like to push feature so it benefit
+to people. All upstream developers want that, all packagers want that.
+I would have loved to have the latest apache on our server for next
+upgrade, I would have loved to have systemd sooner for the buildsystem,
+or indeed, having the latest PA for the various bluez/A2DP fix
+ Heck I would be sure that we have latest apache on our servers, as this
+would allow to have a cleaner , contrary to what people may think, no
+one actively work to break computers of others. I see that you think you
+would be able to properly handle everything. Because everybody think
+this. Yet, you would be alone on this on our side, and that's also a
+risk. If you were too busy to push PA sooner, and see that kernel 3.3
+was planned to be the final, then there is a high chance that you would
+be too busy again.
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+So for thoses 5 reasons, I would say &quot;no&quot;, even if I would rather see
+this just for free software advancement. 
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+&gt;<i> Le lundi 12 mars 2012 &#224; 16:20 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 12 March 2012 16:08, Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; As oxygen is our default theme for gtk2 and gtk3, I think we should
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; mark these two packages as important packages, and push updated
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; version as soon as possible. Plus, the new versions fixed a nasty bug
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; that it will crash theme selector when changing from oxygen to another
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; theme. See: <A HREF="https://projects.kde.org/news/127">https://projects.kde.org/news/127</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Actually it makes other program to crash such as net_applet, mgaapplet, ...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So +1
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> + 1 so we can have it in the beta 2 isos
+</I>
+Pushed.
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+&gt;<i> please submit, I committed all the changes
+</I>
+Submit what ?
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+$ mgarepo submit gconf      
+Fetching revision...
+error: svn: File not found: revision 223124, path
+'/cauldron/gconf/current'
+$ mgarepo submit GConf
+Fetching revision...
+error: svn: File not found: revision 223124, path
+'/cauldron/GConf/current'
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+&gt;<i> (freeze check on submission works nicely btw :P  my script commits +
+</I>&gt;<i> submits in one go, so sysadmins might see some rejected submissions from
+</I>&gt;<i> my userid)
+</I>
+We do not look at the log.
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/3/12 Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakx-net &amp; drakxtools.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> submitted. In progress
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> then once drakx-installer-binaries &amp; drakx-net are uploaded and in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hdlists, please upload drakx-installer-images &amp; drakx-installer-stage2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>submitted
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> drakxtools:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - fix mgaapplet crashing on live migration when there's a new major
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> version of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  perl (mga#3042)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - reduce resident memory of net_applet (5Mb aka 11%) &amp; mgapplet (7Mb aka
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 14%)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - updated translations
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> drakx-installer-binaries:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - do not try to load obsolete sqlzma &amp; squashfs_lzma kernel modules
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - recognize c67x00, imx21-hcd, fhci, isp1362-hcd, oxu210hp-hcd &amp;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> renesas-usbhs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  USB host drivers (mga#4905)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> drakx-net:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - adapt to drakxtools-13.92+ API change
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  (reduces net_applet resident memory)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - drakfirewall: list SSL flavor of POP3/IMAP/SMTP ports
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - updated translations
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> drakx-installer-images:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - include more USB host controller modules (mga#4905)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (DEPENDS on d-i-binaries)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> drakx-installer-stage2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - recognize c67x00, imx21-hcd, fhci, isp1362-hcd, oxu210hp-hcd &amp;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> renesas-usbhs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  USB host drivers (mga#4905)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - use lxdm for LXDE
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - updated translations
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (DEPENDS on drakx-net &amp; d-i-binaries)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> Le lundi 12 mars 2012 &#224; 16:04 +0100, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; please submit, I committed all the changes
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Submit what ?
+</I>
+Oh, sorry. It is called GConf2, not GConf (I think there is no GConf
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+After all discussions about pulseaudio that happened on IRC and on this
+mailing-list, we had to take a decision about submitting or not this new
+version. Version freeze is a MUST to follow to be able to release stable.
+We know it's hard to stop updating software and focus on bug fixing while
+development of these softwares do not stop upstream.
+
+Anyway Colin gave some details about the reasons why we should submit it.
+There was discussion during council meeting tonight and finally here is the
+plan: pulseaudio is submitted tonight, it will be included in beta2 and it
+will be tested until 26/03. Colin will provide documentation to help tests.
+If we see regression in between, then it will be reverted.
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+&gt;<i> Le lundi 12 mars 2012 &#224; 17:25 +0200, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 12.03.2012 00:32, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; We're aiming to get a PA 2.0 release out very soon (within the next 4
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; weeks).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Can this go it? I think it's worth it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think pulseaudio is an acceptable candidate for exception here, mainly
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; because
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - it fixes some big audio usability issues (that will only affect more
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;   and more systems during MGA2 lifetime) with the new features, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - our package maintainer is the upstream maintainer as well, allowing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;   efficient handling of any bugreports.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; However, I know I'm probably more lax here than others, so this requires
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the input of other release managers before a decision.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> For the sake of documenting :
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> - I have seen that Ubuntu precise still ship 1.1, and they aim for a
+</I>&gt;<i> much longer support than us ( iirc, 5 years this time ). They also plan
+</I>&gt;<i> to release 1 week before us :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseSchedule</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> - Fedora, also usually shipping latest version ( or even shipping git
+</I>&gt;<i> snapshot of the glibc during the freeze ), do not have it in rawhide for
+</I>&gt;<i> now, and not in Fedora 17. The next release is 1 week after us :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/17/Schedule">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/17/Schedule</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> While Ubuntu do not ship kernel 3.3 in Precise ( but have backported the
+</I>&gt;<i> jack detection stuff ), Fedora 17 does have it.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So both of them would benefit from shipping PA 2.0 instead of 1.1, and
+</I>&gt;<i> they didn't chose to do so. They also have likely more people working on
+</I>&gt;<i> it, and likely a wider array of testers than us. 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> However, ubuntu decide to use some kind of patches to PA for the jack
+</I>&gt;<i> detection part.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The next issue I have is that beside adding bug fixes, that's still a
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.0. While version number are just version number, as said on
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Notes/1.0">http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Notes/1.0</A> , we do
+</I>&gt;<i> not have much information on what got changed, and the current page is
+</I>&gt;<i> rather scarce :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/Developer/ReleasePlanning">http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/Developer/ReleasePlanning</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So I personally cannot evaluate how disturbing they would be, or what
+</I>&gt;<i> they would impact. And sorry, I cannot say &quot;yes&quot; if I think I have not
+</I>&gt;<i> enough information to evaluate. 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> That was my 2nd point.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The third point is that you say you will revert if there is a problem,
+</I>&gt;<i> but I would make sure that we clearly define what is a problem in a way
+</I>&gt;<i> that do not suffer from any problem of interpretation. Because if we are
+</I>&gt;<i> not clear now, we will just push the discussion to later and that's not
+</I>&gt;<i> the moment usually. 
+</I>&gt;<i> So I want to make sure that we all fully agree on what would trigger a
+</I>&gt;<i> reverse before even thinking to say &quot;yes&quot; to the request. Because
+</I>&gt;<i> despite asking during meeting, not everybody was on the same wavelength
+</I>&gt;<i> for version freeze, and I see no reason to have the same problem a 2nd
+</I>&gt;<i> time. And I want to make sure that if we revert, there will be no last
+</I>&gt;<i> minute negotiation, no matter how harsh would be a revert. 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So i would say 'no' until we have such document. What would be in there
+</I>&gt;<i> is left open. For example, one of the criteria could be a deadline for
+</I>&gt;<i> the release of 2.0. If the release slip only of 1 second, that's too
+</I>&gt;<i> late and we revert. The current target date is 26/03, and we have our
+</I>&gt;<i> release freeze on 07/04. So I would say that if PA is not released on
+</I>&gt;<i> 26/03, that's too late. 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Or we can say &quot;if there is 1 bug written as critical on our bugzilla, or
+</I>&gt;<i> the one of PA and not fixed on XX&quot;. Or anything.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Without clear conditions being agreed first, I would say &quot;no&quot;, that's my
+</I>&gt;<i> 3rd reason.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And while I do not doubt this would be really useful for free software
+</I>&gt;<i> to have a bunch of testers with our users, and that free software
+</I>&gt;<i> benefit from shipping RC in distribution, I still think that the beta
+</I>&gt;<i> are here to fix our bugs rather than those of upstream, and that our
+</I>&gt;<i> users are not guinea pigs for upstream. That's not exactly what we
+</I>&gt;<i> promised to them, and for that reason alone, I would also say &quot;no&quot; for
+</I>&gt;<i> now, and that's a 4th reason.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Finally, I would like to remind that pulseaudio is basically installed
+</I>&gt;<i> on every installation besides servers, and is critical to the sound
+</I>&gt;<i> infrastructure. And so, just for the fact that this is central, it
+</I>&gt;<i> should not be version upgraded if that was not really planned, just for
+</I>&gt;<i> a feature, for simple risk prevention. We were praised for being stable
+</I>&gt;<i> just because we basically did several months of debug, and I think we
+</I>&gt;<i> should strive to keep that reputation, by reusing the same simple recipe
+</I>&gt;<i> ( ie, being cautious and do really more test ). Being rock solid stable
+</I>&gt;<i> is the only thing where we seems to all agree in our previous
+</I>&gt;<i> discussion.  
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And being central to both KDE and GNOME, it would be present on the
+</I>&gt;<i> livecd and would not be upgraded  and as such, and because some people
+</I>&gt;<i> use them as liveusb ( ie, without any upgrade ), we cannot treat this as
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;we can upgrade later if it slip&quot;, because we cannot for some people. 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And as a side note, I would also remind that some people ( like Pierre
+</I>&gt;<i> Jarillon, for example ) complained there is _too_ much to download after
+</I>&gt;<i> a first installation, and why we shouldn't reduce the number of bugfixes
+</I>&gt;<i> for that, we can at least try to not plan to have more of them.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And that's my 5th reason.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So yes, I understand that you would like to push feature so it benefit
+</I>&gt;<i> to people. All upstream developers want that, all packagers want that.
+</I>&gt;<i> I would have loved to have the latest apache on our server for next
+</I>&gt;<i> upgrade, I would have loved to have systemd sooner for the buildsystem,
+</I>&gt;<i> or indeed, having the latest PA for the various bluez/A2DP fix
+</I>&gt;<i>  Heck I would be sure that we have latest apache on our servers, as this
+</I>&gt;<i> would allow to have a cleaner , contrary to what people may think, no
+</I>&gt;<i> one actively work to break computers of others. I see that you think you
+</I>&gt;<i> would be able to properly handle everything. Because everybody think
+</I>&gt;<i> this. Yet, you would be alone on this on our side, and that's also a
+</I>&gt;<i> risk. If you were too busy to push PA sooner, and see that kernel 3.3
+</I>&gt;<i> was planned to be the final, then there is a high chance that you would
+</I>&gt;<i> be too busy again.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So for thoses 5 reasons, I would say &quot;no&quot;, even if I would rather see
+</I>&gt;<i> this just for free software advancement. 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+I think in the case of the pulseaudio we can trust Colin and not what other distributions doing, and especially for Ubuntu.  As i dont have an opinion for fedora i can say that for a long time Ubuntu users suffers with pulseaudio when Mandriva users not. It is an opinion that i made reading forums.
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+I was very satisfied when i read an article from the chief editor in the Greek version of Linux Inside the 21/02/10. This magazine is Debian/Ubuntu oriented so if there is a compliment for Mandriva is really objective.
+
+In this article it says that the best KDE distribution is Mandriva and between other arguments there is the support pulseaudio for KDE by Colin:
+&#171;[...]It has stereo sound system. The classic problem with other distributions is that KDE4 does not have sound in applications like Amarok or have but with conditions. In Mandriva, thanks to PulseAudio and the work that Colin do is not such a problem. And from what i see, in the next version will be even better [...]&#187;
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+<A HREF="http://www.linuxinside.gr/content/&#960;&#959;&#953;&#945;-&#949;&#943;&#957;&#945;&#953;-&#951;-&#954;&#945;&#955;&#973;&#964;&#949;&#961;&#951;-&#948;&#953;&#945;&#957;&#959;&#956;&#942;-&#947;&#953;&#945;-kde">http://www.linuxinside.gr/content/&#960;&#959;&#953;&#945;-&#949;&#943;&#957;&#945;&#953;-&#951;-&#954;&#945;&#955;&#973;&#964;&#949;&#961;&#951;-&#948;&#953;&#945;&#957;&#959;&#956;&#942;-&#947;&#953;&#945;-kde</A> 
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+Google translation to English
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+So may be we dont have always take as example (and as a rule) what others do but first trust our stuff. 
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+I wanted to bring this argument in the discussion. Personally, i try to have an open mind (i say &quot;try&quot; because it is nt a fact being objective every time, it is something that needs an effort) and examine all arguments from anyone. 
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+&gt;<i> Are we making any progress with this. Currenly Hunspell doesn't work in Lyx
+</I>&gt;<i> (error no dictionaries installed and digging through the Hunspell spec file it
+</I>&gt;<i> installs a patch and gives the dictionary path as /usr/share/dict/ooo:
+</I>&gt;<i> but there is only a one empty file in that directory called dictionary.lst
+</I>We are installing the dictionaries into /usr/share/hunspell and symlinks 
+into /usr/share/myspell
+I will have a look.
+&gt;<i> Hunspell works on libreoffice.
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+&gt;<i> Le lundi 12 mars 2012 &#224; 21:49 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;<i> 1 hour ago drakx-installer-images-1.68-1.mga2 cauldron nonfree/release
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+    <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Should be fixed now. Please update and report your experience. Thanks!
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+</I>&gt;<i> Dimitri
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+In the mirrors there is only new nvidia-cuda-toolkit(-devel) packages,
+but still require something not detected:
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+werewolf:~/in# rpm -U nvidia-cuda-toolkit-4.1.28-3.mga2.nonfree.x86_64.rpm
+error: Failed dependencies:
+	libcuda.so.1()(64bit) is needed by nvidia-cuda-toolkit-4.1.28-3.mga2.nonfree.x86_64
+	nvidia-cuda-toolkit = 4.1.28-1.mga2.nonfree is needed by (installed) nvidia-cuda-toolkit-devel-4.1.28-1.mga2.nonfree.x86_64
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+werewolf:~/in# rpm -qf /usr/lib64/nvidia-current/libcuda.so.1
+nvidia-current-cuda-opencl-295.20-2.mga2.nonfree
+werewolf:~/in# rpm -q --provides nvidia-current-cuda-opencl-295.20-2.mga2.nonfree
+nvidia-current-cuda = 295.20-2.mga2.nonfree
+nvidia-current-cuda-opencl = 295.20-2.mga2.nonfree
+nvidia-current-cuda-opencl(x86-64) = 295.20-2.mga2.nonfree
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+The latter does not provide libcuda.so.1()(64bit). Should it be automatic
+or not, it should show anyways in --provides ?
+Perhaps the library location in /usr/lib{64}/nvidia-current makes rpm skip
+the automatic provides for libs ?
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+TIA
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+&gt;<i> 12.03.2012 00:32, Colin Guthrie kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anyway, this is my justification. I have packages ready to roll.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can this go it? I think it's worth it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i> Working sound is for many users a must have. So if PA 2.0 will get us 
+</I>&gt;<i> better support here then i'm all in. No point to wait another year to 
+</I>&gt;<i> get this support. Especially if we have upstream with us to fis 
+</I>&gt;<i> problems ASAP.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -- 
+</I>&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I agree sound issues can be very annoying for Desktop Linux users to 
+deal with or try and deal with, especially for the less technical.  
+Sound is also one of those area's where people generally expect it to 
+just work on their computer.
+
+Newer is not always better, but going by what Colin typed, Pulseaudio 
+2.0 will be quite a bit better than previous versions.
+
+Since Colin works on Pulseaudio upstream, but is also the maintainer for 
+Mageia, and it seems has provided good enough reasons for Mageia 2 to 
+have it, I think yes let's have it in Mageia 2 :).
+
+Also the previous version can be reverted to before the release 
+candidate of Mageia 2 quite easily it seems going by the log of the 
+earlier council meeting: 
+<A HREF="http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-12-20.17.log.html">http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2012/mageia-meeting.2012-03-12-20.17.log.html</A>
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+&gt;<i> Le 12/03/2012 21:27, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but we should also try to prevent irritation if it's possible... we're
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; short on contributors and I don't like to decrease motivation... I guess
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that makes me more lax than others.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, I want a new version of cowsay. Right now. Otherwise I'm leaving.
+</I>&gt;<i> Far away and forever.
+</I>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 12/03/12 21:04 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> For the sake of documenting :
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So for thoses 5 reasons, I would say &quot;no&quot;, even if I would rather see
+</I>&gt;<i> this just for free software advancement. 
+</I>
+I originally wrote a reply to this that went through and answered the
+individual points. However, on reflection and re-reading of my replies I
+felt it was better to just reply generically as I don't want to nit-pick
+and do a tit-for-tat type reply here as you're points are all valid and
+well reasoned.
+
+Along with the Triage team who do an sterling job, I am the primary
+person dealing with fallout from audio issues. I obviously take pride in
+the work I do and I in no way want want to jeopardise the reputations of
+either Mageia or PulseAudio and as such I will use the revert option
+without hesitation for rc if I or anyone else genuinely feels that the
+newer version reflects badly on Mageia.
+
+I fully accept the timing sucks here, but considering the lifetime of
+mga2 I still feel this is the right direction.
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>R James</B> 
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+I'm sure we've all dealt with clerks, support reps and airline employees who
+treat everyone like a number and are sticklers for the rules.
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+Perhaps too, we've all gotten a warning instead of a deserved traffic ticket
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+All I'm saying is I have no objection to treating people like people and
+given all that Thierry does for Mageia, I really think he deserves that.
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+On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 6:29 PM, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Op maandag 12 maart 2012 22:02:56 schreef Guillaume Rousse:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 12/03/2012 21:27, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; but we should also try to prevent irritation if it's possible... we're
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; short on contributors and I don't like to decrease motivation... I guess
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; that makes me more lax than others.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OK, I want a new version of cowsay. Right now. Otherwise I'm leaving.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Far away and forever.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ok, fine, your point is noted...
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Anne nicolas at 12/03/12 21:59 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> After all discussions about pulseaudio that happened on IRC and on this
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing-list, we had to take a decision about submitting or not this new
+</I>&gt;<i> version. Version freeze is a MUST to follow to be able to release
+</I>&gt;<i> stable. We know it's hard to stop updating software and focus on bug
+</I>&gt;<i> fixing while development of these softwares do not stop upstream.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway Colin gave some details about the reasons why we should submit
+</I>&gt;<i> it. There was discussion during council meeting tonight and finally here
+</I>&gt;<i> is the plan: pulseaudio is submitted tonight, it will be included in
+</I>&gt;<i> beta2 and it will be tested until 26/03. Colin will provide
+</I>&gt;<i> documentation to help tests. If we see regression in between, then it
+</I>&gt;<i> will be reverted.
+</I>
+I just want to follow up Anne's email here.
+
+I want to make it clear this I was very much the person pushing for
+this. Several people are somewhat apprehensive about this (for various
+values of apprehensive) and I fully appreciate their concerns.
+
+By way of reassurance, I would like to describe a little the changes in
+the upstream version.
+
+This release is technically quite small. The number of commits are low
+generally, but also a high proportion of the commits are related to
+documentation, tidyups and independent new features (requiring manual
+activation) rather than changes to current feature set.
+
+Where changes to current features do exist, a lot of it relates to two
+newer APIs/subsystems which are still relatively minor parts: namely the
+passthrough API and the echo-cancellation subsystem. While these are
+important parts and will play an increasingly important role moving
+forward, they are also not part of what I would call the &quot;critical path&quot;
+of PA usage today.
+
+So in terms of changes that are part of that critical path, I'd say two
+primary changes come into play here:
+ * Alternative Sample Rates
+ * Headphone Jack Detection
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+Both of these are issues that the users have often requested, but it is
+the latter that is my primary motivation for pushing for this new
+version to be included.
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+The vast majority of the work has been undertaken by David Henningsson
+of Canonical. A variation on his patches have been part of Ubuntu for
+some time and they have offered users this capability for a while now. I
+would very much like to thank David for his work here. It's been a
+sorely needed feature and it's been a lot of work and he's done a great job.
+
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+So the primary things to look out for here are:
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+ 1. General regressions. Does something that used to work, now function
+poorly? I do not expect much here. Things relating to actual quality of
+the audio should also be reported (in some cases some optimisations
+might not be working as intended, but this is a relatively simple to fix
+if it crops up).
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+ 2. Do headphones now work correctly? You should now always see a port
+dropdown in pavucontrol. This was often hidden in the past, but will now
+be visible. On HDA codecs, does plugging/unplugging headphones now
+magically switch the port correctly? If not, is it any worse than
+before? You should have separate volumes for normal usage vs. headphones
+usage. Depending on hardware you may get a slight blip when plugging in
+the headphones (e.g. if the speaker volume is loud, and the headphone
+volume quiet, you might get a very short blast of loud noise when you
+plug in headphones). Some hardware permits genuinely separate controls
+for this and avoids this blip. If so, you're lucky.
+
+ 3. Bluetooth devices. There are a few bluetooth changes. Everything
+still OK? You will have to add &quot;Enable=Socket&quot; to the [General] section
+of /etc/bluetooth/audio.conf to get this working, but it should work
+fine as before.
+
+
+That's all really. As always, please include &quot;pacmd ls&quot; output in any
+reports.
+
+Obviously for minor issues I hope to fix them super quickly, but if any
+issues come up that cannot be addressed, I can and will revert back to
+PA 1.1 for mga2.
+
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+All the best and thank you very much for helping make this a great release.
+
+Col
+
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> 
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+<PRE>On Monday, March 12, 2012 03:13:22 PM Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 10.03.2012 17:36, Thomas Spuhler wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Are we making any progress with this. Currenly Hunspell doesn't work in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Lyx (error no dictionaries installed and digging through the Hunspell
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; spec file it installs a patch and gives the dictionary path as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; /usr/share/dict/ooo: but there is only a one empty file in that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; directory called dictionary.lst
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> We are installing the dictionaries into /usr/share/hunspell and symlinks
+</I>&gt;<i> into /usr/share/myspell
+</I>&gt;<i> I will have a look.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hunspell works on libreoffice.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Great!
+</I>Don't worry, I found the dictionaries. But Lyx doesn't take them.
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+Thomas Spuhler
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+Could somebody push kdevplatform4, kdevelop4, kdevelop4-php,
+kdevelop4-php-docs into cauldron. We are aiming at 4.3.0 final for
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+    <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B> 
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+&gt;<i> but considering the lifetime of
+</I>&gt;<i> mga2 I still feel this is the right direction.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Agreed Mageia 2 will be supported for 18 months. Mageia has a 9 months 
+release cycle (unless delayed for longer). That means Mageia 3 is 
+probably in January or February.  However let's take Ubuntu for example 
+it means they will probably have Pulseaudio 2.0 if not in Ubuntu 12.04 
+in Ubuntu 12.10 probably (or a later version of Pulseaudio) and so quite 
+a bit before Mageia 3. Then for certain people Pulseaudio will seem 
+rather old in Mageia 2, when Ubuntu and other distros are using a later 
+version in their latest final release at the time before Mageia 3 gets 
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+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel &quot;Gives lessons and does nothing&quot; Verschelde
+</I>Sorry for replying so late.
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+I don't agree with the arithmatic you used here: things like working on 
+madb aren't very visible to others, and your daytime job, looking after 
+your children and other duties you have won't be very visible here, 
+either, but they all require a lot of work (including thinking).
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+You can't count invisible + invisible + invisible + etc. = 0
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+Anyone who remembers the first of October 2011, when you worked on 
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+2012/3/11 Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> as in the other DEs the default browser in LXDE is Firefox.
+</I>&gt;<i> On the one hand one might have the opinion, that having the same apps
+</I>&gt;<i> on all the DEs is a good choice, but actually LXDE is a Lightweight DE
+</I>&gt;<i> and Firefox may be many things but not lightweight. Quite to the
+</I>&gt;<i> contrary, it is a resource hungry monster.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would suggest now, to replace ff in task-lxde by midori, which is
+</I>&gt;<i> far lighter then ff and in my tests I didn't find any missing
+</I>&gt;<i> features. The next best solution would be chromium, which is a lot
+</I>&gt;<i> heavier then midori but doesn't lack any features and is still lighter
+</I>&gt;<i> then ff.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+mageia-release's release notes are empty (and thus the release note
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+whereas I &amp; others have filled it for quite some time.
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+This is because the wrong URL is used in
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mageia-release/current/SOURCES/Makefile?revision=203850&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mageia-release/current/SOURCES/Makefile?revision=203850&amp;view=markup</A>
+It should be: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Release_Notes">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Release_Notes</A>
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+Note the missing &quot;_&quot; between &quot;Mageia&quot; and &quot;$(VERSION)&quot;
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+&gt;<i> Hi
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+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-release's release notes are empty (and thus the release note
+</I>&gt;<i> are empty in the installer too)
+</I>&gt;<i> whereas I &amp; others have filled it for quite some time.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This is because the wrong URL is used in
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mageia-release/current/SOURCES/Makefile?revision=203850&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/mageia-release/current/SOURCES/Makefile?revision=203850&amp;view=markup</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> It should be: <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Release_Notes">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Release_Notes</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Note the missing &quot;_&quot; between &quot;Mageia&quot; and &quot;$(VERSION)&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> See you
+</I>
+My bad will I will fix it
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+-- 
+Anne
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+I have written a small bash script to ease the pushing of multiple package
+on the build system.
+It takes a list of packages as argument (or a file with the list), submit
+them one after another, while waiting for completion between each package.
+It aborts when a failure occurs.
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+you can find it here :
+<A HREF="https://gitorious.org/mgaqueue">https://gitorious.org/mgaqueue</A>
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+I'm already using it since some times to update compiz and mikala use it for
+kde. So it shouldn't eat your kitten.
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+regards
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+&gt;<i> I have written a small bash script to ease the pushing of multiple package
+</I>&gt;<i> on the build system.
+</I>&gt;<i> It takes a list of packages as argument (or a file with the list), submit
+</I>&gt;<i> them one after another, while waiting for completion between each package.
+</I>&gt;<i> It aborts when a failure occurs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> you can find it here :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://gitorious.org/mgaqueue">https://gitorious.org/mgaqueue</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm already using it since some times to update compiz and mikala use it for
+</I>&gt;<i> kde. So it shouldn't eat your kitten.
+</I>
+To maximize throughput w/o affecting latency for other packages, you
+could keep up to 2 building packages (we can build two at a time).
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 13/03/12 13:37 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 13 March 2012 10:13, Julien &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">julien.moragny at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have written a small bash script to ease the pushing of multiple package
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on the build system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It takes a list of packages as argument (or a file with the list), submit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> them one after another, while waiting for completion between each package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It aborts when a failure occurs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you can find it here :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://gitorious.org/mgaqueue">https://gitorious.org/mgaqueue</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm already using it since some times to update compiz and mikala use it for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kde. So it shouldn't eat your kitten.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> To maximize throughput w/o affecting latency for other packages, you
+</I>&gt;<i> could keep up to 2 building packages (we can build two at a time).
+</I>
+I guess one of the issues then is how to deal with dependences... e.g.
+if B follows A and B needs A then B better wait for A.
+
+I guess two modes could be useful too.
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+Col
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms/lib64rpm2-4.9.1.2-21.mga2.x86_64.rpm: Missing
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+Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) n
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 14:51, Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> The following packages have bad signatures:
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+</I>&gt;<i> Do you want to continue installation ? (y/N) n
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+    <B>Armando B.</B> 
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+<PRE>Hi all,
+in this days i'm interesting to this new hardware Raspberry Pi
+<A HREF="http://www.raspberrypi.org/">http://www.raspberrypi.org/</A>
+it's based on ARM arch and have great performance on video, on website
+there is also a video with XBMC that play an H264 stream 1080p 30fps.
+It support OpenGL ES2.0 and OpenVG, have 2 usb port, 1 lan, 1 audio
+out, 1 hdmi out, 1 rca video.
+Price: ~27 euro :)
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+For now there is only one distribution supported/sponsored, Fedora 14 remix.
+Could be an opportunity for Mageia visibility, first 10000 pieces were
+sold in only 2 hours, could be 10000 new Mageia users :)
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+&#160; comex project - <A HREF="http://comex-project.googlecode.com">http://comex-project.googlecode.com</A>
+&#160; webpman project - <A HREF="http://www.integrazioneweb.com/webpman">http://www.integrazioneweb.com/webpman</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Armando B. at 13/03/12 15:07 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i> in this days i'm interesting to this new hardware Raspberry Pi
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.raspberrypi.org/">http://www.raspberrypi.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> it's based on ARM arch and have great performance on video, on website
+</I>&gt;<i> there is also a video with XBMC that play an H264 stream 1080p 30fps.
+</I>&gt;<i> It support OpenGL ES2.0 and OpenVG, have 2 usb port, 1 lan, 1 audio
+</I>&gt;<i> out, 1 hdmi out, 1 rca video.
+</I>&gt;<i> Price: ~27 euro :)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> For now there is only one distribution supported/sponsored, Fedora 14 remix.
+</I>&gt;<i> Could be an opportunity for Mageia visibility, first 10000 pieces were
+</I>&gt;<i> sold in only 2 hours, could be 10000 new Mageia users :)
+</I>
+One of these is certainly on my shopping list and I'd very much like to
+see mga running on one of them!
+
+Col
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<A HREF="http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20120312.txt">http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20120312.txt</A>
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+-- 
+BOFH excuse #348:
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> The new release fixes a security issue:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.openssl.org/news/**secadv_20120312.txt&lt;http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20120312.txt">http://www.openssl.org/news/**secadv_20120312.txt&lt;http://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20120312.txt</A>&gt;
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+Anne
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+    <B>Frank Griffin</B> 
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+isolinux prompting for the type of install, server address and so forth 
+have suddenly had their borders filled with characters - &quot;U&quot; at the left 
+corner, &quot;A&quot; along the top, and an upside-down question mark at the right 
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+I assume that curses is using ASCII extended graphics characters to draw 
+the perimeter of the windows, but that the install itself is using UTF-8 
+or some other character set which doesn't have them.
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+    <B>Frank Griffin</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Just a small thing, but the curses windows which appear at the start 
+</I>&gt;<i> of isolinux prompting for the type of install, server address and so 
+</I>&gt;<i> forth have suddenly had their borders filled with characters - &quot;U&quot; at 
+</I>&gt;<i> the left corner, &quot;A&quot; along the top, and an upside-down question mark 
+</I>&gt;<i> at the right corner.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I assume that curses is using ASCII extended graphics characters to 
+</I>&gt;<i> draw the perimeter of the windows, but that the install itself is 
+</I>&gt;<i> using UTF-8 or some other character set which doesn't have them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>My bad.  This is bug 4894.  I just didn't guess it from the title.
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+&gt;<i> On 03/13/2012 02:40 PM, Frank Griffin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Just a small thing, but the curses windows which appear at the start
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of isolinux prompting for the type of install, server address and so
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; forth have suddenly had their borders filled with characters - &quot;U&quot; at
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the left corner, &quot;A&quot; along the top, and an upside-down question mark
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; at the right corner.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I assume that curses is using ASCII extended graphics characters to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; draw the perimeter of the windows, but that the install itself is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; using UTF-8 or some other character set which doesn't have them.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> My bad.  This is bug 4894.  I just didn't guess it from the title.
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> my bad, if you find a better title, please do 
+</I>Not really.  It's just that there have been so many translation bugs 
+flying by lately, I just figured it was one of those...
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+</I>&gt;<i> actually use the new help that has been uploaded yesterday.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+it contains updated microcodes which fix erratas on Intel &amp; AMD CPUs
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+    <I>Tue Mar 13 23:51:44 CET 2012</I>
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+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please push drakx-installer-images &amp; drakx-installer-stage2
+</I>&gt;<i> the first one so that we include all HID drivers in stage1 (mga#4905)
+</I>&gt;<i> and the second so that the stage2 recognize them all (mga#4905)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See you
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+Anne
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+&gt;<i> please push microcode.
+</I>&gt;<i> it contains updated microcodes which fix erratas on Intel &amp; AMD CPUs
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5BFreeze%5D%20please%20let%20in%20xonotic&In-Reply-To=%3CCAPZ-hqSAiReWn4L8C%2BhezLqtPVwFAfxXPOyUAg3WDjBG6cdZnw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Niet.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Well I vote to be updated, why ? global game servers are currently
+running 0.6.0, and by personal experience over several years (omg how
+much time wasted on this) these FPS games need to have the same
+client/server version, in some cases different versions won't work at
+all (ie. Urban Terror 3.7 -&gt; 4.0 -&gt; 4.1, Warsow 0.5 -&gt; 0.8 etc).
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+I just did the test of running a 0.5.0 client on a 0.6.0 server and it
+works, but a big and annoying yellow announce floats across the screen
+remaining you that a new version is available. I also talked with one
+dev over IRC and he told me that there could be issues when running
+different client/server versions.
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+So just to be on the safe side this new version should be pushed. If
+not then probably we will need to do it later as an update if any
+problems arise. I commit my self to test the new version, I know very
+well how this game works.
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+2012/3/13 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could somebody push kdevplatform4, kdevelop4, kdevelop4-php,
+</I>&gt;<i> kdevelop4-php-docs into cauldron. We are aiming at 4.3.0 final for
+</I>&gt;<i> mga2, and it got out now. You should push kdevplatform4 at first, wait
+</I>&gt;<i> it finished, then push other packages.
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Niet.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Well I vote to be updated, why ? global game servers are currently
+</I>&gt;<i> running 0.6.0, and by personal experience over several years (omg how
+</I>&gt;<i> much time wasted on this) these FPS games need to have the same
+</I>&gt;<i> client/server version, in some cases different versions won't work at
+</I>&gt;<i> all (ie. Urban Terror 3.7 -&gt; 4.0 -&gt; 4.1, Warsow 0.5 -&gt; 0.8 etc).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I just did the test of running a 0.5.0 client on a 0.6.0 server and it
+</I>&gt;<i> works, but a big and annoying yellow announce floats across the screen
+</I>&gt;<i> remaining you that a new version is available. I also talked with one
+</I>&gt;<i> dev over IRC and he told me that there could be issues when running
+</I>&gt;<i> different client/server versions.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So just to be on the safe side this new version should be pushed. If
+</I>&gt;<i> not then probably we will need to do it later as an update if any
+</I>&gt;<i> problems arise. I commit my self to test the new version, I know very
+</I>&gt;<i> well how this game works.
+</I>
+IINM we have some kind of exception regarding games for their client/server 
+relation regarding updates vs backports? if so, then perhaps we could have the 
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
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+</I>&gt;<i> Could somebody push firefox 10.0.3esr and xulrunner 10.0.3esr into
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron? Thanks.
+</I>
+i thought the maintainer wanted to push _only_ the esr version? or has 
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+&gt;<i> Op woensdag 14 maart 2012 03:02:57 schreef Funda Wang:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could somebody push firefox 10.0.3esr and xulrunner 10.0.3esr into
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cauldron? Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i thought the maintainer wanted to push _only_ the esr version? or has
+</I>&gt;<i> something changed?
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+funda told &quot;10.0.3esr and xulrunner 10.0.3esr&quot;     so what is wrong for you ?
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> ennael &lt;ennael&gt; 1.0.10-6.mga2:
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+Take e.g. <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3642">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3642</A>
+&quot;The biggest problem: mouse position isn't stable. Once in a while it
+just slides out of the screen. To find it isn't simple.&quot;
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+Could I get a NEEDHELP keyword for this? It is assigned to me, but I
+just don't know what to do. Hopefully with a keyword we could setup
+maybe a weekly email (&quot;whine&quot;) in which these bugs are highlighted.
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+&gt;<i> In <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4138,">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4138,</A> the reporter did a
+</I>&gt;<i> minimal installation, then opted for task-gnome-minimal.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This doesn't install X apparently.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Should it? In case of a really minimal installation, it could be that
+</I>&gt;<i> you're using everything remotely.
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+</I>&gt;<i> I could have task-gnome-minimal have:
+</I>&gt;<i>   Suggests: task-x11
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm hoping is enough for a working X.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Opinions?
+</I>
+Ping. I'd like to resolve the bug (FIXED/WONTFIX) but I have no clue on
+what is right. &quot;NEEDHELP&quot;
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 05:14:17PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4138,">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4138,</A> the reporter did a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> minimal installation, then opted for task-gnome-minimal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This doesn't install X apparently.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Should it? In case of a really minimal installation, it could be that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you're using everything remotely.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I could have task-gnome-minimal have:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    Suggests: task-x11
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm hoping is enough for a working X.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Opinions?
+</I>&gt;<i> Ping. I'd like to resolve the bug (FIXED/WONTFIX) but I have no clue on
+</I>&gt;<i> what is right. &quot;NEEDHELP&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>KDE, LXDE, XFCE, Window Maker require task-x11
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Kamil Rytarowski at 14/03/12 10:15 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 14.03.2012 10:11, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 05:14:17PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4138,">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4138,</A> the reporter did a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> minimal installation, then opted for task-gnome-minimal.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This doesn't install X apparently.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Should it? In case of a really minimal installation, it could be that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> you're using everything remotely.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I could have task-gnome-minimal have:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>    Suggests: task-x11
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm hoping is enough for a working X.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Opinions?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ping. I'd like to resolve the bug (FIXED/WONTFIX) but I have no clue on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> what is right. &quot;NEEDHELP&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> KDE, LXDE, XFCE, Window Maker require task-x11
+</I>
+While technically a minimal install could do the whole remote thing, I
+think we need to be somewhat pragmatic here and add the require. It's by
+far and away the biggest usage pattern and all it does for the
+minimalist users is bloat their install. I think we should live with
+that for now. A more complete infrastructure for dealing with e.g. thin
+clients could be investigated later and applied holistically to the
+other DEs too.
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+Col
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I could have task-gnome-minimal have:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;Suggests: task-x11
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+&gt;<i> While technically a minimal install could do the whole remote thing, I
+</I>&gt;<i> think we need to be somewhat pragmatic here and add the require. It's by
+</I>&gt;<i> far and away the biggest usage pattern and all it does for the
+</I>&gt;<i> minimalist users is bloat their install. I think we should live with
+</I>&gt;<i> that for now. A more complete infrastructure for dealing with e.g. thin
+</I>&gt;<i> clients could be investigated later and applied holistically to the
+</I>&gt;<i> other DEs too.
+</I>
+Should be a suggests then rather than a requires then.
+It'll OK for end users.
+Note that real end users would use the installer which pulls task-x11 :-)
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+    <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> 
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 14 mars 2012 10:04:51, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I have several bugs assigned to me to which I have no idea at all on how
+</I>&gt;<i> to fix it or even investigate.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Take e.g. <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3642">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3642</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;The biggest problem: mouse position isn't stable. Once in a while it
+</I>&gt;<i> just slides out of the screen. To find it isn't simple.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Could I get a NEEDHELP keyword for this? It is assigned to me, but I
+</I>&gt;<i> just don't know what to do. Hopefully with a keyword we could setup
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe a weekly email (&quot;whine&quot;) in which these bugs are highlighted.
+</I>
+I don't know, wouldn't it be more efficient to ask for help directly on the 
+mailing list?
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 14 mars 2012 10:04:51, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have several bugs assigned to me to which I have no idea at all on how
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to fix it or even investigate.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Take e.g. <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3642">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3642</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;The biggest problem: mouse position isn't stable. Once in a while it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just slides out of the screen. To find it isn't simple.&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could I get a NEEDHELP keyword for this? It is assigned to me, but I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just don't know what to do. Hopefully with a keyword we could setup
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> maybe a weekly email (&quot;whine&quot;) in which these bugs are highlighted.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know, wouldn't it be more efficient to ask for help directly on the
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing list?
+</I>
+Probably
+I would never search for NEEDHELP bugs to see if I can help...
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Samuel Verschelde at 14/03/12 11:21 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 14 mars 2012 10:04:51, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have several bugs assigned to me to which I have no idea at all on how
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to fix it or even investigate.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Take e.g. <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3642">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3642</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;The biggest problem: mouse position isn't stable. Once in a while it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just slides out of the screen. To find it isn't simple.&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could I get a NEEDHELP keyword for this? It is assigned to me, but I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just don't know what to do. Hopefully with a keyword we could setup
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> maybe a weekly email (&quot;whine&quot;) in which these bugs are highlighted.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know, wouldn't it be more efficient to ask for help directly on the 
+</I>&gt;<i> mailing list?
+</I>
+I for one am pretty bad a looking for such keywords. I do however read
+the ML... so as Samuel suggests, this would be better for me, but if
+others can help out via BZ, then maybe it's still a good idea.
+
+Col
+
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>Le 14/03/2012 12:24, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Samuel Verschelde at 14/03/12 11:21 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le mercredi 14 mars 2012 10:04:51, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have several bugs assigned to me to which I have no idea at all on how
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to fix it or even investigate.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Take e.g. <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3642">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3642</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;The biggest problem: mouse position isn't stable. Once in a while it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> just slides out of the screen. To find it isn't simple.&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Could I get a NEEDHELP keyword for this? It is assigned to me, but I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> just don't know what to do. Hopefully with a keyword we could setup
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> maybe a weekly email (&quot;whine&quot;) in which these bugs are highlighted.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't know, wouldn't it be more efficient to ask for help directly on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mailing list?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I for one am pretty bad a looking for such keywords. I do however read
+</I>&gt;<i> the ML... so as Samuel suggests, this would be better for me, but if
+</I>&gt;<i> others can help out via BZ, then maybe it's still a good idea.
+</I>I'm not just multiplicating the different ways to ask for additional 
+support will help focusing on this kind of issues.
+
+Anyway, the actual problem here seems not really to be a communication 
+issue, but the fact than this bug report is unusable, without any way to 
+reproduce the issue. I'd rather shift the discussion about how to get 
+less, but more valuable reports, by educating end users.
+
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+-- 
+BOFH excuse #414:
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+tachyon emissions overloading the system
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:24:17AM +0000, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+&gt;<i> Probably
+</I>&gt;<i> I would never search for NEEDHELP bugs to see if I can help...
+</I>
+For me it would serve 2 goals:
+- Know which bugs need help (in general)
+- Have a list of bugs to not look at
+  Meaning: if assigned to me and the keyboard NEEDHELP is there, then
+  don't look at it, because I just don't know what to do.
+
+So the keyword is also to simplify my &quot;bug list&quot; overview. I don't want
+to see the bugs I stumped with until someone assists. Maybe I should add
+NEEDINFO I guess (as a &quot;NEEDINFO&quot; on what to do, not &quot;NEEDINFO&quot; from
+reporter).
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+&gt;<i> On 27 February 2012 03:30, Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> AFAIK there is/was a buffer size issue in rpm-build, causing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %{expand:foo} to fail if 'foo' is too long. Never got around to look at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it closer, though...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW this should be reported upstream so that at least rpm-build
+</I>&gt;<i> reports a proper error in that case...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+I added a comment in the closed redhat bug which is assigned to Panu.
+If there's no response I'll report it directly upstream.
+
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=431009">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=431009</A>
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+&gt;<i> Should be a suggests then rather than a requires then.
+</I>
+noticed task-kde4 had:
+Requires:   task-x11 &gt;= 1-2
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+    <B>Marja van Waes</B> 
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+<PRE>On 14/03/12 13:15, Olav Vitters wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 11:24:17AM +0000, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Probably
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would never search for NEEDHELP bugs to see if I can help...
+</I>&gt;<i> For me it would serve 2 goals:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Know which bugs need help (in general)
+</I>&gt;<i> - Have a list of bugs to not look at
+</I>&gt;<i>    Meaning: if assigned to me and the keyboard NEEDHELP is there, then
+</I>&gt;<i>    don't look at it, because I just don't know what to do.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So the keyword is also to simplify my &quot;bug list&quot; overview. I don't want
+</I>&gt;<i> to see the bugs I stumped with until someone assists. Maybe I should add
+</I>&gt;<i> NEEDINFO I guess (as a &quot;NEEDINFO&quot; on what to do, not &quot;NEEDINFO&quot; from
+</I>&gt;<i> reporter).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>That would confuse me, I remove the NEEDINFO keyword when I see the 
+reporter  came up with all requested information.
+
+Do you mind testing with NEEDHELP on the whiteboard first? We can make a 
+shared search for those bugs.
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Is it too late to get this into the distro?
+</I>
+Nope.
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+I've been waiting for it.
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+It fixes several important bugs, and is the first maintenance release 
+that fully supports 3.3 series kernels wich we are shipping in Mageia 2.
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+more than one machine):
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+error: rpmdb: Thread/process 3912/139787959727872 failed: Thread died in
+Berkeley DB library
+error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv-&gt;failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal
+error, run database recovery
+error: cannot open Packages index using db4 -  (-30974)
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+
+I've had to delete and rebuild the rpm database several times now:
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+rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
+rpm --rebuilddb 
+
+Anyone else seeing this??
+
+Thx,
+R.Fox
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Since the last few updates, I am experiencing erratic RPM db errors (on
+</I>&gt;<i> more than one machine):
+</I>
+This should already be fixed. Maybe your mirror lags behind a bit.
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+    <B>Manuel Hiebel</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Since the last few updates, I am experiencing erratic RPM db errors (on
+</I>&gt;<i> more than one machine):
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> error: rpmdb: Thread/process 3912/139787959727872 failed: Thread died in
+</I>&gt;<i> Berkeley DB library
+</I>&gt;<i> error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv-&gt;failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal
+</I>&gt;<i> error, run database recovery
+</I>&gt;<i> error: cannot open Packages index using db4 -  (-30974)
+</I>&gt;<i> error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I've had to delete and rebuild the rpm database several times now:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm --rebuilddb 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyone else seeing this??
+</I>Yes it's in WIP <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918</A>
+
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thx,
+</I>&gt;<i> R.Fox
+</I>&gt;<i> 
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 16:10 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 04:01:03PM +0100, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Since the last few updates, I am experiencing erratic RPM db errors (on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; more than one machine):
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This should already be fixed. Maybe your mirror lags behind a bit.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+I have the latest updates and it just happened - I will rebuild the db
+and report back if it happens again.
+
+Cheers,
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 03:24:09PM +0100, Marja van Waes wrote:
+&gt;<i> Do you mind testing with NEEDHELP on the whiteboard first? We can
+</I>&gt;<i> make a shared search for those bugs.
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+Will do.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+    <I>Wed Mar 14 16:23:03 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On 14 March 2012 13:40,  &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Revision 3455 Author ennael Date 2012-03-14 13:40:46 +0100 (Wed, 14 Mar
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> update changelog
+</I>
+As you can see in the commit diff, svn2cl is buggy, has been buggy for years,
+and repeat some entries (I looked at it some years ago, I think it was due to
+different TZ between client &amp; server)
+Maybe should we just write important stuff in a NEWS file and just use svn log
+for the full log.
+If you fear a server crash, you can use git svn and you've a full compact
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/14 Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 16:10 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 04:01:03PM +0100, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Since the last few updates, I am experiencing erratic RPM db errors (on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; more than one machine):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This should already be fixed. Maybe your mirror lags behind a bit.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have the latest updates and it just happened - I will rebuild the db
+</I>&gt;<i> and report back if it happens again.
+</I>
+Just did updates (including rpm-4.9.1.2-22.mga2) on 2 cauldron
+installations. Last mirror sync with tier1 was 1:20 hours ago.
+No problems with rpm db
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/14 Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> On 14 March 2012 13:40,  &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Revision 3455 Author ennael Date 2012-03-14 13:40:46 +0100 (Wed, 14 Mar
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; update changelog
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As you can see in the commit diff, svn2cl is buggy, has been buggy for
+</I>&gt;<i> years,
+</I>&gt;<i> and repeat some entries (I looked at it some years ago, I think it was due
+</I>&gt;<i> to
+</I>&gt;<i> different TZ between client &amp; server)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Indeed...
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+&gt;<i> Maybe should we just write important stuff in a NEWS file and just use svn
+</I>&gt;<i> log
+</I>&gt;<i> for the full log.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+yep that would also help to have same kind of process for all mageia
+specific soft
+
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+&gt;<i> If you fear a server crash, you can use git svn and you've a full compact
+</I>&gt;<i> local backup
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+
+-- 
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bsoft-commits%5D%20%5B3455%5D%20update%20changelog&In-Reply-To=%3C4F60B9E6.4090507%40colin.guthr.ie%3E"
+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog">mageia at colin.guthr.ie
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+    <I>Wed Mar 14 16:31:50 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 14/03/12 15:23 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> If you fear a server crash, you can use git svn and you've a full compact
+</I>&gt;<i> local backup
+</I>
+As a side note, it would be good to use git more. I think during the
+mga3 timeframe I'll try and look at the git infrastructure with a view
+to moving the various soft/ stuff over to git.
+
+Packages I won't even begin to think about (it's too much of a pain) but
+it would be good to have more official and better exposed git
+repositories and, where appropriate, automatic patch generation for some
+packages (for example I use one for the initscripts package and I need
+to be careful to add in patches from others to the &quot;official&quot; git
+repository for it).
+
+But it's certainly not something I'll be loooking at before mid-April :p
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/14 Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 16:10 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 04:01:03PM +0100, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Since the last few updates, I am experiencing erratic RPM db errors (on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; more than one machine):
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This should already be fixed. Maybe your mirror lags behind a bit.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have the latest updates and it just happened - I will rebuild the db
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and report back if it happens again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just did updates (including rpm-4.9.1.2-22.mga2) on 2 cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> installations. Last mirror sync with tier1 was 1:20 hours ago.
+</I>&gt;<i> No problems with rpm db
+</I>
+Now I did some more package management:
+ - I opened a konsole window, did another check with 'urpmi
+--auto-update' which turned up no updates. After that rpm database was
+unlocked. Good.
+ - I opened rpmdrake from the konsole and marked all KDE handbooks for
+uninstall. I clicked on OK and watched the output in the konsole
+window.
+ - after the second handbook urpmi crashed with a segmentation fault
+and rpmdrake showed a message box with the same error (segfault).
+
+Then I rebooted the system and starting rpmdrake on the konsole returned:
+* getting lock on urpmi
+* [reading all synthesis files, ok]
+* Error: rpmdb: Thread/process 2794/1397..... failed: Thread died in
+Berkeley DB library
+* Error: db4 error from dbenv-&gt;failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error,
+run database recovery
+* Error: Unable to open packages index, using db4
+* Error: Unable to open package database in /var/lib/rpm
+* unlocking urpmi database
+
+Mind that this happened with latest updates as written in my previous mail.
+
+-- 
+wobo
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/14 Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 16:10 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 04:01:03PM +0100, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Since the last few updates, I am experiencing erratic RPM db errors (on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; more than one machine):
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This should already be fixed. Maybe your mirror lags behind a bit.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have the latest updates and it just happened - I will rebuild the db
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and report back if it happens again.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just did updates (including rpm-4.9.1.2-22.mga2) on 2 cauldron
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installations. Last mirror sync with tier1 was 1:20 hours ago.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No problems with rpm db
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now I did some more package management:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- I opened a konsole window, did another check with 'urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> --auto-update' which turned up no updates. After that rpm database was
+</I>&gt;<i> unlocked. Good.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- I opened rpmdrake from the konsole and marked all KDE handbooks for
+</I>&gt;<i> uninstall. I clicked on OK and watched the output in the konsole
+</I>&gt;<i> window.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- after the second handbook urpmi crashed with a segmentation fault
+</I>&gt;<i> and rpmdrake showed a message box with the same error (segfault).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then I rebooted the system and starting rpmdrake on the konsole returned:
+</I>&gt;<i> * getting lock on urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> * [reading all synthesis files, ok]
+</I>&gt;<i> * Error: rpmdb: Thread/process 2794/1397..... failed: Thread died in
+</I>&gt;<i> Berkeley DB library
+</I>&gt;<i> * Error: db4 error from dbenv-&gt;failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error,
+</I>&gt;<i> run database recovery
+</I>&gt;<i> * Error: Unable to open packages index, using db4
+</I>&gt;<i> * Error: Unable to open package database in /var/lib/rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> * unlocking urpmi database
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mind that this happened with latest updates as written in my previous mail.
+</I>
+Adding info: erasing and rebuilding the db does not work. After
+removing the _db* I run # rpm --rebuilddb which returns
+:<i>
+</I>* Error: rpmdb: Thread/process 2794/1397..... failed: Thread died in
+Berkeley DB library
+* Error: db4 error from dbenv-&gt;failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error,
+run database recovery
+* Error: Unable to open packages index, using db4
+
+Result: system is unusable now.
+
+-- 
+wobo
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+<PRE>On 14 March 2012 16:25, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe should we just write important stuff in a NEWS file and just use svn
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> log for the full log.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> yep that would also help to have same kind of process for all mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> specific soft
+</I>
+Well, we already more or less standardized it for most drakx* stuff
+(the various parts of the installer stack, drakxtools, drakx-net, drakconf,
+...) :
+- we log important stuff into NEWS so that the one doing the release
+  knows what has changed
+- we don't care about ChangeLog anymore (we keep the old ones
+  but we never update them anymore
+  eg: we never updated drakx's ChangeLog for at least 5 years
+  (since at lest 2007, not easy to know exactly since we lost one
+  year of changes due to the server corruption)
+  urpmi &amp; rpmdrake ones were last updated in 2008, ...
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/14 Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 16:10 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 04:01:03PM +0100, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Since the last few updates, I am experiencing erratic RPM db errors (on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; more than one machine):
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This should already be fixed. Maybe your mirror lags behind a bit.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have the latest updates and it just happened - I will rebuild the db
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and report back if it happens again.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just did updates (including rpm-4.9.1.2-22.mga2) on 2 cauldron
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installations. Last mirror sync with tier1 was 1:20 hours ago.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No problems with rpm db
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now I did some more package management:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- I opened a konsole window, did another check with 'urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --auto-update' which turned up no updates. After that rpm database was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> unlocked. Good.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- I opened rpmdrake from the konsole and marked all KDE handbooks for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> uninstall. I clicked on OK and watched the output in the konsole
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> window.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- after the second handbook urpmi crashed with a segmentation fault
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and rpmdrake showed a message box with the same error (segfault).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Then I rebooted the system and starting rpmdrake on the konsole returned:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * getting lock on urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * [reading all synthesis files, ok]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * Error: rpmdb: Thread/process 2794/1397..... failed: Thread died in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Berkeley DB library
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * Error: db4 error from dbenv-&gt;failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> run database recovery
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * Error: Unable to open packages index, using db4
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * Error: Unable to open package database in /var/lib/rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * unlocking urpmi database
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mind that this happened with latest updates as written in my previous mail.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Adding info: erasing and rebuilding the db does not work. After
+</I>&gt;<i> removing the _db* I run # rpm --rebuilddb which returns
+</I>&gt;<i> :
+</I>&gt;<i> * Error: rpmdb: Thread/process 2794/1397..... failed: Thread died in
+</I>&gt;<i> Berkeley DB library
+</I>&gt;<i> * Error: db4 error from dbenv-&gt;failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error,
+</I>&gt;<i> run database recovery
+</I>&gt;<i> * Error: Unable to open packages index, using db4
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Result: system is unusable now.
+</I>
+Solution: I had to manually erase the lock file /var/lib/rpm/.RPMLOCK
+After that rebuilding the database worked and urpmi is usable again.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 14 March 2012 16:31, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 14/03/12 15:23 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you fear a server crash, you can use git svn and you've a full compact
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> local backup
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As a side note, it would be good to use git more. I think during the
+</I>&gt;<i> mga3 timeframe I'll try and look at the git infrastructure with a view
+</I>&gt;<i> to moving the various soft/ stuff over to git.
+</I>
+The things is, some translators are used to svn, so switching to git
+may not be easy for them.
+
+For dev, it can helps things, keeping unfinished stuff into branches
+rather than in patch files that can got lost/forgoten
+
+&gt;<i> Packages I won't even begin to think about (it's too much of a pain)
+</I>
+On contrary, I think this one would be easier since mgarepo is
+supposed to hide svn though some packagers know they can
+use svn directly.
+
+&gt;<i> but it would be good to have more official and better exposed git
+</I>&gt;<i> repositories
+</I>
+other advantages are :
+
+- less used space on the server (disk usage exploded on the
+  server when switching from CVS to SVN) ;
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+- also quite a lot less files on the server too (so less jobs for
+  saving &amp; fscking) since cvs used on file per checked file whereas
+  svn (as configured in mdv) is using one file per transaction in
+  big directories
+
+- full history is backuped locally at relatively little space cost
+  (providing git gc is run regularly at least when using git-svn)
+  for quite a lot project, disk usage is actually smaller than svn
+  that keep a copy of everything in .svn, thus doubling disk usage
+  whereas git compressed history can be smaller (not for the full
+  drakx history for the last 11+years though :-) )
+
+- quite a lot operations are faster (even if SVN was already an
+   improvement over SVN regarding this) due to local requesting
+   instead of network requests (eg: log, blame, ...)
+
+&gt;<i> where appropriate, automatic patch generation for some
+</I>&gt;<i> packages (for example I use one for the initscripts package and I need
+</I>&gt;<i> to be careful to add in patches from others to the &quot;official&quot; git
+</I>&gt;<i> repository for it).
+</I>
+At least this one should eventually die, shouldn't it :-) ?
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+<PRE>On 14 March 2012 16:32,  &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> add html file, images and css
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Added Paths
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+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-doc-media/doc/
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-doc-media/doc/css/
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-doc-media/doc/css/all.css
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-doc-media/doc/images/
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-doc-media/doc/images/favicon.png
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-doc-media/doc/images/logo_ln_1.png
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-doc-media/index.html
+</I>
+Just for curiosity, why CSS &amp; images are not at the same level as index.html?
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;&#23531;&#36947;:
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
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+</I>&gt;<i> Solution: I had to manually erase the lock file /var/lib/rpm/.RPMLOCK
+</I>&gt;<i> After that rebuilding the database worked and urpmi is usable again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918</A>
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/14 Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> On 14 March 2012 16:32,  &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; add html file, images and css
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Added Paths
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mageia-doc-media/doc/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mageia-doc-media/doc/css/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mageia-doc-media/doc/css/all.css
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mageia-doc-media/doc/images/
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mageia-doc-media/doc/images/favicon.png
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mageia-doc-media/doc/images/logo_ln_1.png
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mageia-doc-media/index.html
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just for curiosity, why CSS &amp; images are not at the same level as
+</I>&gt;<i> index.html?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Maybe not the best thing to do but I wanted to avoid to overcrowd first
+level or directories in tree
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+Anne
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+&gt;&gt;<i> BTW this should be reported upstream so that at least rpm-build
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reports a proper error in that case...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> I added a comment in the closed redhat bug which is assigned to Panu.
+</I>&gt;<i> If there's no response I'll report it directly upstream.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=431009">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=431009</A>
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+Looks like it's already tracked there: <A HREF="http://rpm.org/ticket/814">http://rpm.org/ticket/814</A>
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/14 Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 16:10 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 04:01:03PM +0100, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Since the last few updates, I am experiencing erratic RPM db errors (on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; more than one machine):
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This should already be fixed. Maybe your mirror lags behind a bit.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have the latest updates and it just happened - I will rebuild the db
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and report back if it happens again.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just did updates (including rpm-4.9.1.2-22.mga2) on 2 cauldron
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installations. Last mirror sync with tier1 was 1:20 hours ago.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No problems with rpm db
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now I did some more package management:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- I opened a konsole window, did another check with 'urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --auto-update' which turned up no updates. After that rpm database was
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> unlocked. Good.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- I opened rpmdrake from the konsole and marked all KDE handbooks for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> uninstall. I clicked on OK and watched the output in the konsole
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> window.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- after the second handbook urpmi crashed with a segmentation fault
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and rpmdrake showed a message box with the same error (segfault).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Then I rebooted the system and starting rpmdrake on the konsole returned:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * getting lock on urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * [reading all synthesis files, ok]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Error: rpmdb: Thread/process 2794/1397..... failed: Thread died in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Berkeley DB library
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Error: db4 error from dbenv-&gt;failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> run database recovery
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Error: Unable to open packages index, using db4
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * Error: Unable to open package database in /var/lib/rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * unlocking urpmi database
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mind that this happened with latest updates as written in my previous mail.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Adding info: erasing and rebuilding the db does not work. After
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> removing the _db* I run # rpm --rebuilddb which returns
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * Error: rpmdb: Thread/process 2794/1397..... failed: Thread died in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Berkeley DB library
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * Error: db4 error from dbenv-&gt;failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> run database recovery
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * Error: Unable to open packages index, using db4
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Result: system is unusable now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Solution: I had to manually erase the lock file /var/lib/rpm/.RPMLOCK
+</I>&gt;<i> After that rebuilding the database worked and urpmi is usable again.
+</I>
+Ok, here we go again:
+I did the same as described earlier:
+Updates, then opening rpmdrake and marking all handbook packages for
+uninstall. After uninstalling one or two packages rpmdrake segfaults.
+Opening it again shows the known errors about the rpm database.
+
+Unfortunately rpmdrake gives no other error message than &quot;Segmentation
+fault&quot; - that's it. So I don't know whether the error messages about
+the rpm database are just a result of the segfault or the cause of the
+segfault.
+
+--
+wobo
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 2012/3/14 Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 16:10 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 04:01:03PM +0100, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Since the last few updates, I am experiencing erratic RPM db errors (on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; more than one machine):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; This should already be fixed. Maybe your mirror lags behind a bit.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I have the latest updates and it just happened - I will rebuild the db
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and report back if it happens again.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Just did updates (including rpm-4.9.1.2-22.mga2) on 2 cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; installations. Last mirror sync with tier1 was 1:20 hours ago.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; No problems with rpm db
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Now I did some more package management:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;  - I opened a konsole window, did another check with 'urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; --auto-update' which turned up no updates. After that rpm database was
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; unlocked. Good.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;  - I opened rpmdrake from the konsole and marked all KDE handbooks for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; uninstall. I clicked on OK and watched the output in the konsole
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; window.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;  - after the second handbook urpmi crashed with a segmentation fault
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; and rpmdrake showed a message box with the same error (segfault).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Then I rebooted the system and starting rpmdrake on the konsole returned:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; * getting lock on urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; * [reading all synthesis files, ok]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; * Error: rpmdb: Thread/process 2794/1397..... failed: Thread died in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Berkeley DB library
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; * Error: db4 error from dbenv-&gt;failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; run database recovery
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; * Error: Unable to open packages index, using db4
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; * Error: Unable to open package database in /var/lib/rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; * unlocking urpmi database
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Mind that this happened with latest updates as written in my previous mail.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Adding info: erasing and rebuilding the db does not work. After
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; removing the _db* I run # rpm --rebuilddb which returns
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * Error: rpmdb: Thread/process 2794/1397..... failed: Thread died in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Berkeley DB library
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * Error: db4 error from dbenv-&gt;failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; run database recovery
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * Error: Unable to open packages index, using db4
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Result: system is unusable now.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Solution: I had to manually erase the lock file /var/lib/rpm/.RPMLOCK
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; After that rebuilding the database worked and urpmi is usable again.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, here we go again:
+</I>&gt;<i> I did the same as described earlier:
+</I>&gt;<i> Updates, then opening rpmdrake and marking all handbook packages for
+</I>&gt;<i> uninstall. After uninstalling one or two packages rpmdrake segfaults.
+</I>&gt;<i> Opening it again shows the known errors about the rpm database.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunately rpmdrake gives no other error message than &quot;Segmentation
+</I>&gt;<i> fault&quot; - that's it. So I don't know whether the error messages about
+</I>&gt;<i> the rpm database are just a result of the segfault or the cause of the
+</I>&gt;<i> segfault.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>
+Hello Wolfgang -
+
+Try the rebuild again:
+rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
+rpm --rebuilddb 
+
+and then simple do:
+urpmi --auto-update -v
+
+That worked for me.  When I tried rpmdrake, I also got the corruption
+again.
+
+Cheers,
+R.Fox
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/14 Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 18:19 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 2012/3/14 Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 2012/3/14 Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 16:10 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 04:01:03PM +0100, Robert Fox wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; Since the last few updates, I am experiencing erratic RPM db errors (on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; &gt; more than one machine):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; This should already be fixed. Maybe your mirror lags behind a bit.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I have the latest updates and it just happened - I will rebuild the db
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and report back if it happens again.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Just did updates (including rpm-4.9.1.2-22.mga2) on 2 cauldron
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; installations. Last mirror sync with tier1 was 1:20 hours ago.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; No problems with rpm db
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Now I did some more package management:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160;- I opened a konsole window, did another check with 'urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; --auto-update' which turned up no updates. After that rpm database was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; unlocked. Good.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160;- I opened rpmdrake from the konsole and marked all KDE handbooks for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; uninstall. I clicked on OK and watched the output in the konsole
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; window.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; &#160;- after the second handbook urpmi crashed with a segmentation fault
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; and rpmdrake showed a message box with the same error (segfault).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Then I rebooted the system and starting rpmdrake on the konsole returned:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; * getting lock on urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; * [reading all synthesis files, ok]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; * Error: rpmdb: Thread/process 2794/1397..... failed: Thread died in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Berkeley DB library
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; * Error: db4 error from dbenv-&gt;failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; run database recovery
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; * Error: Unable to open packages index, using db4
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; * Error: Unable to open package database in /var/lib/rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; * unlocking urpmi database
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Mind that this happened with latest updates as written in my previous mail.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Adding info: erasing and rebuilding the db does not work. After
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; removing the _db* I run # rpm --rebuilddb which returns
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * Error: rpmdb: Thread/process 2794/1397..... failed: Thread died in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Berkeley DB library
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * Error: db4 error from dbenv-&gt;failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; run database recovery
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; * Error: Unable to open packages index, using db4
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Result: system is unusable now.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Solution: I had to manually erase the lock file /var/lib/rpm/.RPMLOCK
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; After that rebuilding the database worked and urpmi is usable again.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, here we go again:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I did the same as described earlier:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Updates, then opening rpmdrake and marking all handbook packages for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> uninstall. After uninstalling one or two packages rpmdrake segfaults.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Opening it again shows the known errors about the rpm database.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Unfortunately rpmdrake gives no other error message than &quot;Segmentation
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fault&quot; - that's it. So I don't know whether the error messages about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the rpm database are just a result of the segfault or the cause of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> segfault.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello Wolfgang -
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Try the rebuild again:
+</I>&gt;<i> rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm --rebuilddb
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> and then simple do:
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi --auto-update -v
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That worked for me. &#160;When I tried rpmdrake, I also got the corruption
+</I>&gt;<i> again.
+</I>
+As I wrote before, this did not work here, I have to erase the lock
+file as well. After that the rebuild works ok.
+
+As for the segfault - removing a single package via rpmdrake results
+in a segfault, reproducable with any package..
+
+-- 
+wobo
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wed, 2012-03-14 at 18:33 +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; Hello Wolfgang -
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Try the rebuild again:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db*
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rpm --rebuilddb
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and then simple do:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; urpmi --auto-update -v
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That worked for me.  When I tried rpmdrake, I also got the corruption
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; again.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> As I wrote before, this did not work here, I have to erase the lock
+</I>&gt;<i> file as well. After that the rebuild works ok.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> As for the segfault - removing a single package via rpmdrake results
+</I>&gt;<i> in a segfault, reproducable with any package..
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+I can confirm now that this has something to do with rpmdrake.  I just
+tried an update with only two packages and it failed (window
+disappeared) and the rpm database was corrupted again.  If I perform the
+update from the command line with urpmi it works fine.
+
+Cheers,
+R.Fox
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+    <B>Damien Lallement</B> 
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+Can you please submit &quot;cpuid&quot; (already commited):
+<A HREF="http://fossies.org/linux/misc/cpuid-20120225.src.tar.gz:a/cpuid-20120225/ChangeLog">http://fossies.org/linux/misc/cpuid-20120225.src.tar.gz:a/cpuid-20120225/ChangeLog</A>
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+Since:
+Sat Mar  5 2011 Todd Allen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">todd.allen at etallen.com</A>&gt;
+    43 	* Made new release.
+There was a lot of commits, bug fix and improvement to detect new 
+Intel/AMD cpus.
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+New release is from:
+Sat Feb 25 2012 Todd Allen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">todd.allen at etallen.com</A>&gt;
+     2 	* Made new release.
+
+As cpuid is only updating the &quot;final&quot; snapshot once a year, I think it 
+will be good to have it uptodate for 2 (KVM, CPUs, chips updates).
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+Thanks,
+-- 
+Damien Lallement
+Treasurer of Mageia.Org
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+<PRE>Op woensdag 14 maart 2012 09:28:07 schreef D.Morgan:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 8:27 AM, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op woensdag 14 maart 2012 03:02:57 schreef Funda Wang:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Could somebody push firefox 10.0.3esr and xulrunner 10.0.3esr into
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; cauldron? Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i thought the maintainer wanted to push _only_ the esr version? or has
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; something changed?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> funda told &quot;10.0.3esr and xulrunner 10.0.3esr&quot;     so what is wrong for you
+</I>&gt;<i> ?
+</I>
+well, i thought you said you were only gonna do esr... as such to me, it 
+seemed unnecessary to add &quot;esr&quot; ... it seems to imply the other versions gonna 
+get pushed later...
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+but then, maybe they will be backported or something...
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+if you're ok with it, it's fine, i just noticed it and found it odd...
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+    <B>Damien Lallement</B> 
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+<PRE>Hi,
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+pidgin 2.10.2 just landed!
+It builds on my laptop and I use it since a few hours now.
+All is working.
+Can we push it to cauldron?
+A lot of big improvements like:
+- GNOME3 better support
+- NM better support
+- fix crash
+- update MSN protocol to MSNP18
+
+<A HREF="http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ChangeLog">http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ChangeLog</A>
+
+Thanks,
+-- 
+Damien Lallement
+Treasurer of Mageia.Org
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+<PRE>Op woensdag 14 maart 2012 17:33:24 schreef Damien Lallement:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> pidgin 2.10.2 just landed!
+</I>&gt;<i> It builds on my laptop and I use it since a few hours now.
+</I>&gt;<i> All is working.
+</I>&gt;<i> Can we push it to cauldron?
+</I>&gt;<i> A lot of big improvements like:
+</I>&gt;<i> - GNOME3 better support
+</I>&gt;<i> - NM better support
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix crash
+</I>&gt;<i> - update MSN protocol to MSNP18
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ChangeLog">http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ChangeLog</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>
+the MSN protocol will likely be necessary for it to work?
+
+can the crash fix and MSN patches be backported? or is it not doable?
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 14/03/12 18:29 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> FYI. No clue on this, I'll follow the upstream thread and report the
+</I>&gt;<i> discussion.
+</I>
+I fixed some fallout from this in the vte3 package last week when
+scrolling stopped working in gnome-terminal so I have seen this in the wild.
+
+We are also currently NOT using xinput 2.2 (I did actually rebuilt it
+locally but have not rebuilt any other packages other than lib64xi6
+against it.
+
+I don't seem to notice any significant scrolling issues however.
+
+Other than vte3, I've not really been affected :s
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 14/03/12 16:23 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 14 March 2012 16:31, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 14/03/12 15:23 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you fear a server crash, you can use git svn and you've a full compact
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> local backup
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As a side note, it would be good to use git more. I think during the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mga3 timeframe I'll try and look at the git infrastructure with a view
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to moving the various soft/ stuff over to git.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The things is, some translators are used to svn, so switching to git
+</I>&gt;<i> may not be easy for them.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> For dev, it can helps things, keeping unfinished stuff into branches
+</I>&gt;<i> rather than in patch files that can got lost/forgoten
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Packages I won't even begin to think about (it's too much of a pain)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> On contrary, I think this one would be easier since mgarepo is
+</I>&gt;<i> supposed to hide svn though some packagers know they can
+</I>&gt;<i> use svn directly.
+</I>
+Yeah this is true. I guess that needs to be addressed properly. I wasn't
+involved with our transiflex roll out (nor do I know much about i18n
+generally. I should really learn some day.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> but it would be good to have more official and better exposed git
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> repositories
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> other advantages are :
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> - less used space on the server (disk usage exploded on the
+</I>&gt;<i>   server when switching from CVS to SVN) ;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> - also quite a lot less files on the server too (so less jobs for
+</I>&gt;<i>   saving &amp; fscking) since cvs used on file per checked file whereas
+</I>&gt;<i>   svn (as configured in mdv) is using one file per transaction in
+</I>&gt;<i>   big directories
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> - full history is backuped locally at relatively little space cost
+</I>&gt;<i>   (providing git gc is run regularly at least when using git-svn)
+</I>&gt;<i>   for quite a lot project, disk usage is actually smaller than svn
+</I>&gt;<i>   that keep a copy of everything in .svn, thus doubling disk usage
+</I>&gt;<i>   whereas git compressed history can be smaller (not for the full
+</I>&gt;<i>   drakx history for the last 11+years though :-) )
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> - quite a lot operations are faster (even if SVN was already an
+</I>&gt;<i>    improvement over SVN regarding this) due to local requesting
+</I>&gt;<i>    instead of network requests (eg: log, blame, ...)
+</I>
+Sold! (but then I was already sold anyway :))
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> where appropriate, automatic patch generation for some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages (for example I use one for the initscripts package and I need
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to be careful to add in patches from others to the &quot;official&quot; git
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> repository for it).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> At least this one should eventually die, shouldn't it :-) ?
+</I>
+For various values of &quot;eventually&quot; :p
+
+This is a valid point in the case of initscripts but several scripts
+will likely live on for a while - tho' maybe they'll be migrated to
+other, more specific-to-use-case packages (e.g. the networking scripts
+and the storage related scripts might eventually be split up... maybe
+not much need for that tho' - who knows). Certainly I would see our
+variations from the upstream fedora versions reducing over time. A lot
+of our changes seem to be quite pointless already - i.e. no real gain
+from any practical perspective. I guess this variation will reduce as
+time goes by)
+
+But yeah, even if this one dies, it would be good to allow mgarepo to
+automatically checkout/clone the source along with the pagkage for easy
+development and patch regeneration etc. One day it might be super easy,
+but no real rush I guess.
+
+Col
+
+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 13.03.2012 21:12, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> please push drakx-installer-stage2-13.94 so that the installer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> actually use the new help that has been uploaded yesterday.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See you
+</I>&gt;<i> I will update the documentation and push drakx-installer-stage2.
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+</I>Updated, please push drakx-installer-help and rebuild 
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 03:24:09PM +0100, Marja van Waes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do you mind testing with NEEDHELP on the whiteboard first? We can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> make a shared search for those bugs.
+</I>&gt;<i> Will do.
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+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;order=Importance&amp;status_whiteboard=NEEDHELP&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;bug_status=VERIFIED">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&amp;query_format=advanced&amp;order=Importance&amp;status_whiteboard=NEEDHELP&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=REOPENED&amp;bug_status=VERIFIED</A>
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+The name of the shared search  is NEEDHELP:
+Bugzilla - log in - Preferences - Saved Searches - scroll down to 
+&quot;NEEDHELP&quot; - click on &quot;run&quot; (or tick the box in the last column, to get 
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+&gt;<i> Revision 3484 Author kamil Date 2012-03-15 11:50:20 +0100 (Thu, 15 Mar 2012)
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+    <B>Remco Rijnders</B> 
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+</I>&gt;<i>SILENT only applies to rpms which get their changelog generated from svn log
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+What decides if it does or doesn't?
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Remco Rijnders at 15/03/12 11:55 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 11:04:07AM +0000, Pascal wrote in
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">CA+CX+biSBFkS0KzAPbdr+NVyvUF3-RnZ28iZQrSpRnQ6xVXJWA at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> SILENT : bump VERSION (in Makefile)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> SILENT only applies to rpms which get their changelog generated from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> svn log
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> What decides if it does or doesn't?
+</I>
+Well, the svn changelog in soft/ isn't used for anything other than
+looking at by humans. The svn changelog in packages is used by tools
+that generate the srpm.
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+It's not really a &quot;decision&quot; so much as &quot;how it works&quot;.
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+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>n54 at gmx.com</B> 
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+ Please push mgaonline.
+ - new tarball 2.77.32 * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590) * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec * extend $MGA_YEARS in mgaupdate to 2012 * delete MANDRIVA_VERSION variable as not used - replace obsolete drakx-newt with drakxtools-curses - stop using MANDRIVA_VERSION in %install - rename mandriva-mgaonline.desktop with mageia-mgaonline.desktop - clean Categories in the .desktop file (remove X-Mandriva-* entry) - remove %update_desktop_database and %clean_desktop_database (not used anymore) - remove %update_mime_database and %clean_mime_database (not used anymore) - clean .spec
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+<PRE>14.03.2012 04:02, Funda Wang kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Could somebody push firefox 10.0.3esr and xulrunner 10.0.3esr into
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron? Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+<PRE>14.03.2012 15:35, Damien Lallement kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you please submit &quot;cpuid&quot; (already commited):
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fossies.org/linux/misc/cpuid-20120225.src.tar.gz:a/cpuid-20120225/ChangeLog">http://fossies.org/linux/misc/cpuid-20120225.src.tar.gz:a/cpuid-20120225/ChangeLog</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Since:
+</I>&gt;<i> Sat Mar  5 2011 Todd Allen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">todd.allen at etallen.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>    43     * Made new release.
+</I>&gt;<i> There was a lot of commits, bug fix and improvement to detect new
+</I>&gt;<i> Intel/AMD cpus.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> New release is from:
+</I>&gt;<i> Sat Feb 25 2012 Todd Allen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">todd.allen at etallen.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>     2     * Made new release.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> As cpuid is only updating the &quot;final&quot; snapshot once a year, I think it
+</I>&gt;<i> will be good to have it uptodate for 2 (KVM, CPUs, chips updates).
+</I>
+Agreed. It is not used by any other package, it is &quot;unimportant&quot;, it has
+non-frequent releases, and it can quickly become out-of-date as new
+hardware is released.
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+<PRE>14.03.2012 09:26, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> Op woensdag 14 maart 2012 01:16:23 schreef Juan Luis Baptiste:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Niet.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well I vote to be updated, why ? global game servers are currently
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> running 0.6.0, and by personal experience over several years (omg how
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> much time wasted on this) these FPS games need to have the same
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> client/server version, in some cases different versions won't work at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> all (ie. Urban Terror 3.7 -&gt; 4.0 -&gt; 4.1, Warsow 0.5 -&gt; 0.8 etc).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I just did the test of running a 0.5.0 client on a 0.6.0 server and it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> works, but a big and annoying yellow announce floats across the screen
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> remaining you that a new version is available. I also talked with one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dev over IRC and he told me that there could be issues when running
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> different client/server versions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So just to be on the safe side this new version should be pushed. If
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not then probably we will need to do it later as an update if any
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> problems arise. I commit my self to test the new version, I know very
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> well how this game works.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> IINM we have some kind of exception regarding games for their client/server 
+</I>&gt;<i> relation regarding updates vs backports? if so, then perhaps we could have the 
+</I>&gt;<i> same policy wrt updates to version freeze?
+</I>
+Yes, we do. Version policy (i.e. no-new-versions-in-updates policy) has
+an exception for &quot;Software that is version-bound to an online service
+(games, virus scanners?) and will only work with the latest version.&quot;
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+This doesn't 100% fit xonotic, though, as online play doesn't *require*
+a specific version. However, as it does impede the online playing
+experience and (AFAIU) online-play is a significant part of xonotic, I'd
+side on the 'update' verdict here.
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+What do other people think regarding this aspect?
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+&gt;<i> 14.03.2012 04:02, Funda Wang kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could somebody push firefox 10.0.3esr and xulrunner 10.0.3esr into
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cauldron? Thanks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Submitted.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+firefox failed. xulrunner is still building.
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+&gt;<i> 14.03.2012 15:35, Damien Lallement kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can you please submit &quot;cpuid&quot; (already commited):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fossies.org/linux/misc/cpuid-20120225.src.tar.gz:a/cpuid-20120225/ChangeLog">http://fossies.org/linux/misc/cpuid-20120225.src.tar.gz:a/cpuid-20120225/ChangeLog</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Since:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sat Mar  5 2011 Todd Allen&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">todd.allen at etallen.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     43     * Made new release.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There was a lot of commits, bug fix and improvement to detect new
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Intel/AMD cpus.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> New release is from:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sat Feb 25 2012 Todd Allen&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">todd.allen at etallen.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      2     * Made new release.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As cpuid is only updating the &quot;final&quot; snapshot once a year, I think it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> will be good to have it uptodate for 2 (KVM, CPUs, chips updates).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Agreed. It is not used by any other package, it is &quot;unimportant&quot;, it has
+</I>&gt;<i> non-frequent releases, and it can quickly become out-of-date as new
+</I>&gt;<i> hardware is released.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Submitted.
+</I>
+Thank you Anssi!
+-- 
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+Treasurer of Mageia.Org
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Please push mgaonline.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - new tarball 2.77.32
+</I>&gt;<i> * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590)
+</I>
+humm, was in non used helpers but eventually was to be done someday
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+&gt;<i> * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec
+</I>&gt;<i> * extend $MGA_YEARS in mgaupdate to 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> * delete MANDRIVA_VERSION variable as not used
+</I>&gt;<i> - replace obsolete drakx-newt with drakxtools-curses
+</I>&gt;<i> - stop using MANDRIVA_VERSION in %install
+</I>&gt;<i> - rename mandriva-mgaonline.desktop with mageia-mgaonline.desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> - clean Categories in the .desktop file (remove X-Mandriva-* entry)
+</I>&gt;<i> - remove %update_desktop_database and %clean_desktop_database (not used
+</I>&gt;<i> anymore)
+</I>&gt;<i> - remove %update_mime_database and %clean_mime_database (not used anymore)
+</I>&gt;<i> - clean .spec
+</I>
+you should not list all cleanups as reasons to push :-)
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+&gt;<i> Revision 3483 Author kamil Date 2012-03-15 11:44:03 +0100 (Thu, 15 Mar 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590)
+</I>&gt;<i> - replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> - replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec
+</I>&gt;<i> - extend $MGA_YEARS in mgaupdate to 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> - delete MANDRIVA_VERSION variable as not used
+</I>
+You should do smaller, morea easily reviewable commits.
+To be done next time
+eg: 80%f of the above doesn't apply to Makefile, yet this is what appears
+in its history.
+For example:
+- 1st commit: URL change
+- 2nd commit: kill unused macro in Makefile
+- 3rd commit: extend MGA_YEARS
+- 4th commit: s/mdv/mga/ in .desktop
+- 5th commit: bump version in NEWS &amp; Makefile
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+Then next step is to step up as co maintainer of drakx* :-)
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+    <B>Shlomi Fish</B> 
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+On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:50:33 +0200
+Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> 14.03.2012 09:26, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op woensdag 14 maart 2012 01:16:23 schreef Juan Luis Baptiste:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Niet.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Well I vote to be updated, why ? global game servers are currently
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; running 0.6.0, and by personal experience over several years (omg how
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; much time wasted on this) these FPS games need to have the same
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; client/server version, in some cases different versions won't work at
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; all (ie. Urban Terror 3.7 -&gt; 4.0 -&gt; 4.1, Warsow 0.5 -&gt; 0.8 etc).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I just did the test of running a 0.5.0 client on a 0.6.0 server and it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; works, but a big and annoying yellow announce floats across the screen
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; remaining you that a new version is available. I also talked with one
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; dev over IRC and he told me that there could be issues when running
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; different client/server versions.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; So just to be on the safe side this new version should be pushed. If
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; not then probably we will need to do it later as an update if any
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; problems arise. I commit my self to test the new version, I know very
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; well how this game works.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; IINM we have some kind of exception regarding games for their client/server 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; relation regarding updates vs backports? if so, then perhaps we could have the 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; same policy wrt updates to version freeze?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, we do. Version policy (i.e. no-new-versions-in-updates policy) has
+</I>&gt;<i> an exception for &quot;Software that is version-bound to an online service
+</I>&gt;<i> (games, virus scanners?) and will only work with the latest version.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This doesn't 100% fit xonotic, though, as online play doesn't *require*
+</I>&gt;<i> a specific version. However, as it does impede the online playing
+</I>&gt;<i> experience and (AFAIU) online-play is a significant part of xonotic, I'd
+</I>&gt;<i> side on the 'update' verdict here.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> What do other people think regarding this aspect?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+If this is the case, then I say that xonotic should be allowed to be updated.
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+Regards,
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+&gt;<i> On 15 March 2012 11:44,&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Revision 3483 Author kamil Date 2012-03-15 11:44:03 +0100 (Thu, 15 Mar 2012)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - extend $MGA_YEARS in mgaupdate to 2012
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - delete MANDRIVA_VERSION variable as not used
+</I>&gt;<i> You should do smaller, morea easily reviewable commits.
+</I>&gt;<i> To be done next time
+</I>&gt;<i> eg: 80%f of the above doesn't apply to Makefile, yet this is what appears
+</I>&gt;<i> in its history.
+</I>&gt;<i> For example:
+</I>&gt;<i> - 1st commit: URL change
+</I>&gt;<i> - 2nd commit: kill unused macro in Makefile
+</I>&gt;<i> - 3rd commit: extend MGA_YEARS
+</I>&gt;<i> - 4th commit: s/mdv/mga/ in .desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> - 5th commit: bump version in NEWS&amp;  Makefile
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then next step is to step up as co maintainer of drakx* :-)
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+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Thu, 15 Mar 2012 16:50:33 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 14.03.2012 09:26, Maarten Vanraes kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Op woensdag 14 maart 2012 01:16:23 schreef Juan Luis Baptiste:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le samedi 10 mars 2012 &#224; 10:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> please let in xonotic-0.6.0
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's just a game that impacts nothing else.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Niet.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That's bugfix or security fixes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Well I vote to be updated, why ? global game servers are currently
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> running 0.6.0, and by personal experience over several years (omg how
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> much time wasted on this) these FPS games need to have the same
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> client/server version, in some cases different versions won't work at
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> all (ie. Urban Terror 3.7 -&gt; 4.0 -&gt; 4.1, Warsow 0.5 -&gt; 0.8 etc).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just did the test of running a 0.5.0 client on a 0.6.0 server and it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> works, but a big and annoying yellow announce floats across the screen
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> remaining you that a new version is available. I also talked with one
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dev over IRC and he told me that there could be issues when running
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> different client/server versions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So just to be on the safe side this new version should be pushed. If
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> not then probably we will need to do it later as an update if any
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> problems arise. I commit my self to test the new version, I know very
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> well how this game works.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> IINM we have some kind of exception regarding games for their client/server 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> relation regarding updates vs backports? if so, then perhaps we could have the 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> same policy wrt updates to version freeze?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, we do. Version policy (i.e. no-new-versions-in-updates policy) has
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> an exception for &quot;Software that is version-bound to an online service
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (games, virus scanners?) and will only work with the latest version.&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This doesn't 100% fit xonotic, though, as online play doesn't *require*
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a specific version. However, as it does impede the online playing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> experience and (AFAIU) online-play is a significant part of xonotic, I'd
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> side on the 'update' verdict here.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What do other people think regarding this aspect?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If this is the case, then I say that xonotic should be allowed to be updated.
+</I>I'm not about to be okay with that, a version Freeze only accepts
+updates on bug fixes and security warnings, so RC to Release is OK but
+not to revision's change, otherwise that would mean that if fate xonotic
+in version 0.7 just before the Release we should built.
+To me this should be pushed Backport, to limit the update after Release
+
+Cheers
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Bertaux Xavier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bertauxx at yahoo.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If this is the case, then I say that xonotic should be allowed to be updated.
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not about to be okay with that, a version Freeze only accepts
+</I>&gt;<i> updates on bug fixes and security warnings, so RC to Release is OK but
+</I>&gt;<i> not to revision's change, otherwise that would mean that if fate xonotic
+</I>&gt;<i> in version 0.7 just before the Release we should built.
+</I>&gt;<i> To me this should be pushed Backport, to limit the update after Release
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Backports are for new versions, not bug fixes. In this case even as
+this is a new version, the use of an older version of the game client
+with a new game server version could bring issues to users, so that
+makes this release more of a &quot;bug fix release&quot;, because we are trying
+to avoid any possible problem to our users, not because we want to
+have the latest version of the game. If we leave the current version
+and then a user reports a problem while playing the game, the 0.6 or
+0.7 or whatever version is available at the time would be pushed as an
+update, not as a backport.
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+BOFH excuse #1:
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bsoft-commits%5D%20%5B3526%5D%20make%20clean-rpmsrate%2011.%205%25%0A%20faster%20on%20average%20on%20cached%20repo%20directory%20by&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2BCX%2BbiPuh%3DvsdprzAdv4P%3DFwSL8C-rxsVNvo%2BtMoPC9ZmAxbg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+&gt;<i> Revision 3526 Author tv Date 2012-03-15 20:13:03 +0100 (Thu, 15 Mar 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> make clean-rpmsrate 11.5% faster on average on cached repo directory by
+</I>&gt;<i> doing less work in the regexp engine and less path walks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> elapsed time consistently go down from 0.70 to 0.62 on scores of run
+</I>&gt;<i> (mainly a win in time spend in the kernel)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified Paths
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mgatools/trunk/NEWS
+</I>&gt;<i> mgatools/trunk/clean-rpmsrate
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified: mgatools/trunk/NEWS
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- mgatools/trunk/NEWS	2012-03-15 19:13:00 UTC (rev 3525)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ mgatools/trunk/NEWS	2012-03-15 19:13:03 UTC (rev 3526)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -3,6 +3,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i>    o fix matching dkms packages (broken for years...)
+</I>&gt;<i>    o fix matching locales-xx_XX for localized packages
+</I>&gt;<i>    o fix matching mga extension (broken since mga fork)
+</I>&gt;<i> +  o 11.5% faster on average on cached repo directory
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>  0.1:
+</I>&gt;<i>  - initial release
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified: mgatools/trunk/clean-rpmsrate
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- mgatools/trunk/clean-rpmsrate	2012-03-15 19:13:00 UTC (rev 3525)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ mgatools/trunk/clean-rpmsrate	2012-03-15 19:13:03 UTC (rev 3526)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -18,6 +18,9 @@
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>  my %rpm;
+</I>&gt;<i>  foreach my $dir (@ARGV) {
+</I>&gt;<i> -    $rpm{$dir} = [ map { s!$dir/?(.*)\.rpm$!$1!; $_ } glob &quot;$dir/*.rpm&quot; ];
+</I>&gt;<i> +    chdir($dir);
+</I>&gt;<i> +    $rpm{$dir} = [ map { s!(.*)\.rpm$!$1!; $_ } glob &quot;*.rpm&quot; ];
+</I>
+What about  s!\.rpm$!! ?
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+&gt;<i>  }
+</I>&gt;<i> +chdir($ENV{PWD}); # in case -o referes to a relative path
+</I>&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;<i>  cleanrpmsrate($rpmsrate_raw_file, $output_file, \%rpm);
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, 15 Mar 2012, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's just an update of /etc/{services,protocols} files (current ones are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3-years old).
+</I>&gt;<i> Submitted.
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+</I>Please push it again. It's updated. I have excluded firmly run-parts 
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Modified: mgatools/trunk/clean-rpmsrate
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --- mgatools/trunk/clean-rpmsrate &#160; &#160; 2012-03-15 19:13:00 UTC (rev 3525)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +++ mgatools/trunk/clean-rpmsrate &#160; &#160; 2012-03-15 19:13:03 UTC (rev 3526)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> @@ -18,6 +18,9 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;my %rpm;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;foreach my $dir (@ARGV) {
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - &#160; &#160;$rpm{$dir} = [ map { s!$dir/?(.*)\.rpm$!$1!; $_ } glob &quot;$dir/*.rpm&quot; ];
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + &#160; &#160;chdir($dir);
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + &#160; &#160;$rpm{$dir} = [ map { s!(.*)\.rpm$!$1!; $_ } glob &quot;*.rpm&quot; ];
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What about &#160;s!\.rpm$!! ?
+</I>
+Indeed we can simplify further :-)
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Bertaux Xavier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bertauxx at yahoo.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; If this is the case, then I say that xonotic should be allowed to be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; updated.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm not about to be okay with that, a version Freeze only accepts
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; updates on bug fixes and security warnings, so RC to Release is OK but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; not to revision's change, otherwise that would mean that if fate xonotic
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in version 0.7 just before the Release we should built.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; To me this should be pushed Backport, to limit the update after Release
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Backports are for new versions, not bug fixes. In this case even as
+</I>&gt;<i> this is a new version, the use of an older version of the game client
+</I>&gt;<i> with a new game server version could bring issues to users, so that
+</I>&gt;<i> makes this release more of a &quot;bug fix release&quot;, because we are trying
+</I>&gt;<i> to avoid any possible problem to our users, not because we want to
+</I>&gt;<i> have the latest version of the game. If we leave the current version
+</I>&gt;<i> and then a user reports a problem while playing the game, the 0.6 or
+</I>&gt;<i> 0.7 or whatever version is available at the time would be pushed as an
+</I>&gt;<i> update, not as a backport.
+</I>
+well, the version policy is for updates.
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+my point here is that we should maybe equalize &amp; simplify our policys by 
+having the same kind of &quot;exceptions&quot; in both policies.
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+of course, there may be a good reason to now similar exceptions to both 
+policies, it's just that atm, i don't see any.
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 15.03.2012 19:53, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 15 Mar 2012, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's just an update of /etc/{services,protocols} files (current ones 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3-years old).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Submitted.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please push it again. It's updated. I have excluded firmly run-parts 
+</I>&gt;<i> from setup, it's provided through a stand-alone package.
+</I>Please push also run-parts, it's updated to the latest version from 
+Debian package and installing of localized man pages is fixed. I've 
+already updated it 2 months ago waiting for review...
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+Beta 2 is available now  for tests. Here is the announcement:
+<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/03/15/mageia-2-beta-2-near-the-goal/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/03/15/mageia-2-beta-2-near-the-goal/</A>
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+This is the last beta for Mageia 2 and before RC. We need your tests and
+reports more than ever!
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+Thanks again all for the hard work
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+    <B>Dan Fandrich</B> 
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+&gt;<i> * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590)
+</I>&gt;<i> * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec
+</I>
+Replacing Mandriva -&gt; Mageia in user-visible text makes sense, but what
+exactly is the MIME type used for? If the underlying data format hasn't
+changed (whatever it is), then this isn't something that should really be
+modified, any more than renaming image/vnd.microsoft.icon to something
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+    <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 21:07, Dan Fandrich &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dan at coneharvesters.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:25:40PM +0100, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Replacing Mandriva -&gt; Mageia in user-visible text makes sense, but what
+</I>&gt;<i> exactly is the MIME type used for? If the underlying data format hasn't
+</I>&gt;<i> changed (whatever it is), then this isn't something that should really be
+</I>&gt;<i> modified, any more than renaming image/vnd.microsoft.icon to something
+</I>&gt;<i> else.
+</I>
+AFAIR, it used to be for long-dead Kiosk project, several years ago
+(Kiosk was declared a dead project by the end of 2006). .bundle files
+(downloaded through http) were containing special instructions to
+trigger specific urpmi behaviour (adding a media, installing RPMs from
+this media). It was not used since.
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+<PRE>Le 08/03/2012 16:47, Guillaume Rousse a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 08/03/2012 16:13, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 14:57, Romain d'Alverny&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 15:02, Guillaume
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Rousse&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 08/03/2012 14:38, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And for /var/www/html
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This should really be a server-neutral thing (with a better name for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the user, like www-data) but I never took the time to do it :(
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What is needed exactly by various web servers ? I really doubt
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> anything else
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> as apache requires apache configuration file. And if it is just a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /var/www/html directory, there is no use to have a dependency for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> something
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> any sysadmin is able to create himself.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It helps when it works out of the box. A user may not be aware, at
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> first, that a /var/www/html has to be created + an index.html file put
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in it, to see its Web server work. It's a good default behaviour
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> confirming the install succeeded and that the server works, it saves a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> few seconds to everyone trying/doing it first.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now, maybe each web server package should check if this /var/www/html
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> directory exists and create it if needed (or have /var/www/apache,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /var/www/lighttpd, etc.)? Or should that be better handled by a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> separate unique package?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would prefer a package providing a web user and a default webroot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Else we can have such shared user created in each of the packages...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It would be annoying to have to chown the writable directories when
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> switching between servers.
+</I>&gt;<i> Fine with me.
+</I>Well, some days ago I pushed a 'webserver-base' package, with the 
+following elements:
+- /var/www and /var/www/html directories
+- 'apache' user
+- index.html page
+
+I've been curious, however, at the exact amount of shared elements our 
+various webservers packages currently use. And actually, only two 
+(apache and lighttpd) do share user and document root, the two others 
+(nginx and cherookee) being totally independant.
+
+In Fedora, they are all independant.
+
+So I'd rather revert the change, and make lighttpd autonomous also. 
+Unless someone can convince me there is an advantage having lighttpd 
+executing as 'apache' :)
+
+-- 
+BOFH excuse #35:
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+    <B>zezinho</B> 
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+&gt;<i> So I'd rather revert the change, and make lighttpd autonomous also. Unless
+</I>&gt;<i> someone can convince me there is an advantage having lighttpd executing as
+</I>&gt;<i> 'apache' :)
+</I>
+Ah, interesting point. Should two or more different webservers run at
+the same time (may happen for server static and dynamic contents, for
+instance, or for different services), shouldn't they run under
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+On #mageia-dev someone gave this link about e-mails that are eaten by 
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+<A HREF="https://kdeatopensuse.wordpress.com/2012/03/08/help-on-kde-pim-data-loss-bugs/">https://kdeatopensuse.wordpress.com/2012/03/08/help-on-kde-pim-data-loss-bugs/</A>
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+Does any one know whether this is something we should worry about?
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+Regards,
+Marja
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+- <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373</A>
+- <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4937">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4937</A>
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+However, I'm unaware of any other changes in the perl code itself. Is it 
+sage to proceed with a new release ?
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+BOFH excuse #229:
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+<PRE>On 15.03.2012 21:41, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 21:07, Dan Fandrich&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dan at coneharvesters.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:25:40PM +0100, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Replacing Mandriva -&gt;  Mageia in user-visible text makes sense, but what
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> exactly is the MIME type used for?
+</I>For opening files. It's linked through x-mga-exec for *.bundle files.
+&gt;&gt;<i> If the underlying data format hasn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> changed (whatever it is), then this isn't something that should really be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> modified, any more than renaming image/vnd.microsoft.icon to something
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> else.
+</I>If you don't know what it is used for why are you so opposed? We have 
+our own names and suffixes, so I don't why you are against. For exactly 
+the same reason we dropped X-Mandriva-* in favor of X-Mageia in .desktop 
+files.
+&gt;<i> AFAIR, it used to be for long-dead Kiosk project, several years ago
+</I>&gt;<i> (Kiosk was declared a dead project by the end of 2006). .bundle files
+</I>&gt;<i> (downloaded through http) were containing special instructions to
+</I>&gt;<i> trigger specific urpmi behaviour (adding a media, installing RPMs from
+</I>&gt;<i> this media). It was not used since.
+</I>I'm in favor of removing all unneeded parts from mgaonline. There were 
+many parts related to megapacks, server editions, club membership. If 
+the .bundle is unused then it too can be removed.
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+    <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 22:15, Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I'm in favor of removing all unneeded parts from mgaonline. There were many
+</I>&gt;<i> parts related to megapacks, server editions, club membership. If the .bundle
+</I>&gt;<i> is unused then it too can be removed.
+</I>
+Yes, but cutting code out of mgaonline must be done carefully (I
+believe tv did some cleaning already). Are there functional/features
+tests along with the code? That could be a start to ensure no required
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+    <B>Dan Fandrich</B> 
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+&gt;<i> If you don't know what it is used for why are you so opposed? We have
+</I>&gt;<i> our own names and suffixes, so I don't why you are against. For
+</I>&gt;<i> exactly the same reason we dropped X-Mandriva-* in favor of X-Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> in .desktop files.
+</I>
+If the formats are identical, then creating a brand-new MIME type is
+unnecessary complication. Server adminstrators who want to serve up
+.bundle files for both Mandriva and Mageia then have to deal with
+sending different two MIME types for files with the same extension. The MIME
+type in /etc/mime.types is guaranteed to be wrong for one distribution
+or the other. And so on. But it's an academic argument if this type
+isn't actually used for anything.
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dan
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+As said during last council meeting, we need to renew packagers
+representatives and so organize election for coming year. After nearly 1
+year working with 2 representatives, I can say personnally that having 3
+people in charge would be great as todo list is quite huge.
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+your motivations =&gt; until our next meeting, 21/03
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+<PRE>On 15.03.2012 22:44, Dan Fandrich wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:15:34PM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you don't know what it is used for why are you so opposed? We have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> our own names and suffixes, so I don't why you are against. For
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> exactly the same reason we dropped X-Mandriva-* in favor of X-Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in .desktop files.
+</I>&gt;<i> If the formats are identical, then creating a brand-new MIME type is
+</I>&gt;<i> unnecessary complication. Server adminstrators who want to serve up
+</I>&gt;<i> .bundle files for both Mandriva and Mageia then have to deal with
+</I>&gt;<i> sending different two MIME types for files with the same extension.
+</I>Not true! The only thing to deal with is shipping files with the same 
+extension.
+&gt;<i>   The MIME
+</I>&gt;<i> type in /etc/mime.types is guaranteed to be wrong for one distribution
+</I>&gt;<i> or the other. And so on.
+</I>Not true.
+&gt;<i>   But it's an academic argument if this type
+</I>&gt;<i> isn't actually used for anything.
+</I>The only academic thing is overwriting x-mga-* or x-mdv-* by a 3rd party 
+source.
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dan
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 15.03.2012 22:44, Dan Fandrich wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   But it's an academic argument if this type
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> isn't actually used for anything.
+</I>&gt;<i> The only academic thing is overwriting x-mga-* or x-mdv-* by a 3rd 
+</I>&gt;<i> party source.
+</I>And actually we dropped partly support for Mandriva in mgaonline, so 
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+mariadb (and mysql) seem to have an odd method of increasing version number 
+for each of there alpha/beta/rc/final versions.
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+This updates to the 5.5 Beta release (it's not announced yet, but they are 
+waiting for it to hit all the mirrors)
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:25:40PM +0100, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Replacing Mandriva -&gt; Mageia in user-visible text makes sense, but what
+</I>&gt;<i> exactly is the MIME type used for? If the underlying data format hasn't
+</I>&gt;<i> changed (whatever it is), then this isn't something that should really be
+</I>&gt;<i> modified, any more than renaming image/vnd.microsoft.icon to something
+</I>&gt;<i> else.
+</I>
++1, we shouldn't change the MIME type here.
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+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Beta 2 is available now  for tests. Here is the announcement:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/03/15/mageia-2-beta-2-near-the-goal/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/03/15/mageia-2-beta-2-near-the-goal/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> We need your tests and reports more than ever!
+</I>
+Hi Anne, I gave feedback with regards to serious issues when trying
+beta 1 on a Cedarview Atom system, but apart from a couple of 
+isolated replies (thanks to those who did reply) that unfortunately 
+didn't solve the issues I got no further interest.
+
+Given that Cedarview Atom will be on most Netbooks this year I would 
+have expected more interest in getting Mageia to work on them.
+
+Therefore I say it again, I'm available to do any reasonable tests you 
+want me to do or provide any logs you need to get this solved (see my 
+previous mails for details I already provided so far).
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+Regards,
+tux99
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+<PRE>15.03.2012 22:51, Guillaume Rousse kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> Le 08/03/2012 16:47, Guillaume Rousse a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 08/03/2012 16:13, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 14:57, Romain d'Alverny&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 15:02, Guillaume
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Rousse&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 08/03/2012 14:38, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And for /var/www/html
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This should really be a server-neutral thing (with a better name for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the user, like www-data) but I never took the time to do it :(
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What is needed exactly by various web servers ? I really doubt
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> anything else
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> as apache requires apache configuration file. And if it is just a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /var/www/html directory, there is no use to have a dependency for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> something
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> any sysadmin is able to create himself.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It helps when it works out of the box. A user may not be aware, at
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> first, that a /var/www/html has to be created + an index.html file put
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in it, to see its Web server work. It's a good default behaviour
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> confirming the install succeeded and that the server works, it saves a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> few seconds to everyone trying/doing it first.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Now, maybe each web server package should check if this /var/www/html
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> directory exists and create it if needed (or have /var/www/apache,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /var/www/lighttpd, etc.)? Or should that be better handled by a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> separate unique package?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I would prefer a package providing a web user and a default webroot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Else we can have such shared user created in each of the packages...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It would be annoying to have to chown the writable directories when
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> switching between servers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Fine with me.
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, some days ago I pushed a 'webserver-base' package, with the
+</I>&gt;<i> following elements:
+</I>&gt;<i> - /var/www and /var/www/html directories
+</I>&gt;<i> - 'apache' user
+</I>&gt;<i> - index.html page
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I've been curious, however, at the exact amount of shared elements our
+</I>&gt;<i> various webservers packages currently use. And actually, only two
+</I>&gt;<i> (apache and lighttpd) do share user and document root, the two others
+</I>&gt;<i> (nginx and cherookee) being totally independant.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> In Fedora, they are all independant.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So I'd rather revert the change, and make lighttpd autonomous also.
+</I>&gt;<i> Unless someone can convince me there is an advantage having lighttpd
+</I>&gt;<i> executing as 'apache' :)
+</I>
+The web applications policy has files being owned by 'apache' user, and
+I don't see how that could work if lighttpd used a different user:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Web_applications_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Web_applications_policy</A>
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+<PRE>22.02.2012 05:27, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;<i>     211805
+</I>&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;<i>     yochenhsieh
+</I>&gt;<i> Date
+</I>&gt;<i>     2012-02-22 04:27:45 +0100 (Wed, 22 Feb 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>       Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Split themes and i18n as stand-alone packages
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+For the record, I still disagree about splitting -i18n package.
+
+It doesn't seem to make any sense, as the package size is only 120kB,
+and if saving space is really that important, there already is an
+icewm-light subpackage which doesn't contain the translation files,
+without any additional need of splitting.
+
+Additionally, splitting i18n files is quite nonstandard handling.
+
+In any case, there are some issues with the commit which are detailed below:
+
+&gt;<i> Modified: cauldron/icewm/current/SPECS/icewm.spec
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> @@ -63,6 +63,9 @@
+</I>&gt;<i>  Requires:	xlockmore
+</I>&gt;<i>  Requires:	xdg-compliance-menu
+</I>&gt;<i>  Requires:	xdg-compliance-autostart
+</I>&gt;<i> +Suggests:	%{name}-themes
+</I>&gt;<i> +Suggests:	%{name}-i18n
+</I>&gt;<i> +Obsoletes:	%{name} &lt; 1.3.7-2
+</I>
+That obsolete doesn't make any sense, icewm-1.3.7-2 replaces
+icewm-1.3.7-1 anyway.
+
+[...]
+&gt;<i> +%package themes
+</I>&gt;<i> +Summary:        Extra themes of Icewm
+</I>&gt;<i> +Group:          Graphical desktop/Icewm
+</I>&gt;<i> +Requires:       %{name}-light &gt;= %epoch:%{version}
+</I>&gt;<i> +Conflicts:		%{name} &lt; 1.3.7-2
+</I>
+Missing epoch from Conflicts (1:1.3.7-2).
+
+[...]
+&gt;<i> +%package i18n
+</I>&gt;<i> +Summary:        locale files of Icewm
+</I>&gt;<i> +Group:          Graphical desktop/Icewm
+</I>&gt;<i> +Requires:       %{name}-light &gt;= %epoch:%{version}
+</I>&gt;<i> +Conflicts:		%{name} &lt; 1.3.7-2
+</I>
+Also missing epoch from Conflicts.
+
+Since these cause mga1-&gt;mga2 upgrade issues, I've fixed these now myself.
+
+[...]
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+I've seen some mga1-&gt;mga2 upgrade issues with php-pear packages:
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+file /usr/share/pear/PHPUnit/Extensions/Database/Operation/Exception.php
+from install of php-pear-DbUnit-1.1.2-1.mga2.noarch conflicts with file
+from package php-pear-PHPUnit-3.3.17-3.mga1.noarch
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+file /usr/share/pear/PHPUnit/Extensions/SeleniumTestCase/append.php from
+install of php-pear-PHPUnit_Selenium-1.2.3-1.mga2.noarch conflicts with
+file from package php-pear-PHPUnit-3.3.17-3.mga1.noarch
+
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+It looks like php-pear-PHPUnit_Selenium and php-pear-DbUnit were
+probably splitted from php-pear-PHPUnit and so need
+&quot;Conflicts: php-pear-PHPUnit &lt; 3.5&quot;.
+
+Similar issues seem to exist (without closer look) in other pkgs like at
+least php-pear-File* and php-pear-PHPUnit_Story.
+
+Attached is the output of
+./check-distro-files-conflicts /mirror/mageia/1/x86_64 \
+  /mirror/mageia/cauldron/x86_64 | grep php-pear | grep mga2
+
+(check-distro-files-conflicts is the old Pixel's script at
+<A HREF="http://svn.mandriva.com/viewvc/soft/build_system/distrib/cleaning/check-distro-files-conflicts">http://svn.mandriva.com/viewvc/soft/build_system/distrib/cleaning/check-distro-files-conflicts</A>)
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+So, I've just upgraded my home server to mga2/cauldron.
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+Something seems fishy in the network.service handling, systemd thinks it
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+# systemctl status network.service
+network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
+          Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network)
+          Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri, 16 Mar 2012
+05:25:09 +0200; 11min ago
+          CGroup: name=systemd:/system/network.service
+                  &#9500; 4679 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i eth0
+                  &#9500; 4723 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i eth1
+                  &#9492; 5372 /sbin/dhclient -q -lf
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+Mar 16 05:25:09 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth1)[4723]: Using detection mode:
+SIOCETHTOOL
+Mar 16 05:25:09 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth1)[4723]: Initialization
+complete, link beat not detected.
+Mar 16 05:25:09 delta.onse.fi network[4397]: [161B blob data]
+Mar 16 05:25:09 delta.onse.fi network[4397]: [14B blob data]
+Mar 16 05:25:13 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[4679]: Link beat detected.
+Mar 16 05:25:14 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[4679]: Executing
+'/etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.action eth0 up'.
+Mar 16 05:25:15 delta.onse.fi dhclient[5312]: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to
+255.255.255.255 port 67
+Mar 16 05:25:15 delta.onse.fi dhclient[5312]: DHCPACK from 109.204.128.1
+Mar 16 05:25:15 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[4679]: client: Determining
+IP information for eth0... done.
+Mar 16 05:25:15 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[4679]: Program executed
+successfully.
+
+
+Trying to restart it I seem to hit other issues:
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+# systemctl restart network.service
+Job failed. See system journal and 'systemctl status' for details.
+# systemctl status network.service
+network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
+          Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network)
+          Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri, 16 Mar 2012
+05:36:39 +0200; 3s ago
+         Process: 8027 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/init.d/network start
+(code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
+          CGroup: name=systemd:/system/network.service
+                  &#9500; 8195 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i eth0
+                  &#9492; 8353 /sbin/dhclient -q -lf
+/var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-eth0.leases -pf /var/run/dhclient-eth0.pid -cf
+/etc/dhclient-eth0.conf...
+
+Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi network[8027]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
+Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi network[8027]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
+Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi network[8027]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
+Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi network[8027]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
+Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi dhclient[8261]: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to
+255.255.255.255 port 67
+Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi dhclient[8261]: DHCPACK from 109.204.128.1
+Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[8195]: client: Determining
+IP information for eth0...NETLINK: Error: File exists
+Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[8195]: client:  done.
+Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[8195]: client: NETLINK:
+Error: File exists
+Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[8195]: Program executed
+successfully.
+
+Any ideas? If not, I'll investigate this myself later.
+
+
+On a related note, I also got dropped to emergency console on first
+boot, not sure why was that (it didn't tell me the reason... maybe the
+reason was in another virtual console, but I didn't remember to check
+there at the time). I just exited the console and it continued to boot...
+
+I see the following in systemctl --failed:
+
+# systemctl --failed
+UNIT                         LOAD   ACTIVE SUB    JOB DESCRIPTION
+bootparamd.service           loaded ESC[1;31mfailed failedESC[0m
+SYSV: The bootparamd server allows older Sun workstations to net boot
+from Linux boxes. It (along with rarp) is rarely used anymore; bootp and
+dhcp have mostly replaced both of them.
+fedora-loadmodules.service   loaded ESC[1;31mfailed failedESC[0m
+Load legacy module configuration
+network.service              loaded ESC[1;31mfailed failedESC[0m
+LSB: Bring up/down networking
+systemd-modules-load.service loaded ESC[1;31mfailed failedESC[0m
+Load Kernel Modules
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+<PRE>On 15 March 2012 22:02, Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I have fixed two bugs in urpmi bash completion:
+</I>&gt;<i> - <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> - <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4937">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4937</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, I'm unaware of any other changes in the perl code itself. Is it
+</I>&gt;<i> sage to proceed with a new release ?
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+Only translations have been updated since last release
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 16 March 2012 03:36, Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I've seen some mga1-&gt;mga2 upgrade issues with php-pear packages:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> file /usr/share/pear/PHPUnit/Extensions/Database/Operation/Exception.php
+</I>&gt;<i> from install of php-pear-DbUnit-1.1.2-1.mga2.noarch conflicts with file
+</I>&gt;<i> from package php-pear-PHPUnit-3.3.17-3.mga1.noarch
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> file /usr/share/pear/PHPUnit/Extensions/SeleniumTestCase/append.php from
+</I>&gt;<i> install of php-pear-PHPUnit_Selenium-1.2.3-1.mga2.noarch conflicts with
+</I>&gt;<i> file from package php-pear-PHPUnit-3.3.17-3.mga1.noarch
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It looks like php-pear-PHPUnit_Selenium and php-pear-DbUnit were
+</I>&gt;<i> probably splitted from php-pear-PHPUnit and so need
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Conflicts: php-pear-PHPUnit &lt; 3.5&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Similar issues seem to exist (without closer look) in other pkgs like at
+</I>&gt;<i> least php-pear-File* and php-pear-PHPUnit_Story.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Attached is the output of
+</I>&gt;<i> ./check-distro-files-conflicts /mirror/mageia/1/x86_64 \
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;/mirror/mageia/cauldron/x86_64 | grep php-pear | grep mga2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (check-distro-files-conflicts is the old Pixel's script at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svn.mandriva.com/viewvc/soft/build_system/distrib/cleaning/check-distro-files-conflicts">http://svn.mandriva.com/viewvc/soft/build_system/distrib/cleaning/check-distro-files-conflicts</A>)
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+&gt;<i> guillomovitch &lt;guillomovitch&gt; 1.0.10-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 223512
+</I>&gt;<i> - sync configuration files with fedora package
+</I>&gt;<i> - drop useless apache dependency
+</I>&gt;<i> - spec cleanup
+</I>&gt;<i> - systemd support
+</I>
+ahem:
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+     8/36: nginx                 ##warning: /etc/nginx/nginx.conf
+created as /etc/nginx/nginx.conf.rpmnew
+###################################################################################################################################################
+Migrating sysvinit service 'nginx' to systemd native unit
+'nginx.service' for target 'graphical.target'
+warning: %post(nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 1
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+    <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> 
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 15 mars 2012 20:35:08, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 15 maart 2012 18:35:04 schreef Juan Luis Baptiste:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Bertaux Xavier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bertauxx at yahoo.fr</A>&gt; 
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; If this is the case, then I say that xonotic should be allowed to be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; updated.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I'm not about to be okay with that, a version Freeze only accepts
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; updates on bug fixes and security warnings, so RC to Release is OK but
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; not to revision's change, otherwise that would mean that if fate
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; xonotic in version 0.7 just before the Release we should built.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; To me this should be pushed Backport, to limit the update after Release
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Backports are for new versions, not bug fixes. In this case even as
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this is a new version, the use of an older version of the game client
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; with a new game server version could bring issues to users, so that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; makes this release more of a &quot;bug fix release&quot;, because we are trying
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to avoid any possible problem to our users, not because we want to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have the latest version of the game. If we leave the current version
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and then a user reports a problem while playing the game, the 0.6 or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 0.7 or whatever version is available at the time would be pushed as an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; update, not as a backport.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> well, the version policy is for updates.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> my point here is that we should maybe equalize &amp; simplify our policys by
+</I>&gt;<i> having the same kind of &quot;exceptions&quot; in both policies.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+It's already the case. If you re-read Ennael's mail about version freeze, it 
+says exactly that about exceptions.
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+Samuel
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:54:43PM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 15.03.2012 22:44, Dan Fandrich wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:15:34PM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;If you don't know what it is used for why are you so opposed? We have
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;our own names and suffixes, so I don't why you are against. For
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;exactly the same reason we dropped X-Mandriva-* in favor of X-Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;in .desktop files.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;If the formats are identical, then creating a brand-new MIME type is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;unnecessary complication. Server adminstrators who want to serve up
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;.bundle files for both Mandriva and Mageia then have to deal with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;sending different two MIME types for files with the same extension.
+</I>&gt;<i> Not true! The only thing to deal with is shipping files with the
+</I>&gt;<i> same extension.
+</I>
+Think outside of a local machine. Extensions aren't used if something is
+served over http. It uses the MIME type. That locally the extension
+would be used to determine the MIME type still means it uses the MIME
+type.
+
+Locally a MIME type change doesn't have much of an effect. But it does
+if your interact with others (http, etc).
+
+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+<PRE>16.03.2012 03:07, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 15 Mar 2012, Anne nicolas wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Beta 2 is available now  for tests. Here is the announcement:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/03/15/mageia-2-beta-2-near-the-goal/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/03/15/mageia-2-beta-2-near-the-goal/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We need your tests and reports more than ever!
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Anne, I gave feedback with regards to serious issues when trying
+</I>&gt;<i> beta 1 on a Cedarview Atom system, but apart from a couple of
+</I>&gt;<i> isolated replies (thanks to those who did reply) that unfortunately
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't solve the issues I got no further interest.
+</I>And the bug number is?
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 16/03/2012 08:37, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 15 March 2012 20:47, guillomovitch&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> guillomovitch&lt;guillomovitch&gt;  1.0.10-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 223512
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - sync configuration files with fedora package
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - drop useless apache dependency
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - spec cleanup
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - systemd support
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ahem:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>       8/36: nginx                 ##warning: /etc/nginx/nginx.conf
+</I>&gt;<i> created as /etc/nginx/nginx.conf.rpmnew
+</I>&gt;<i> ###################################################################################################################################################
+</I>&gt;<i> Migrating sysvinit service 'nginx' to systemd native unit
+</I>&gt;<i> 'nginx.service' for target 'graphical.target'
+</I>&gt;<i> warning: %post(nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 1
+</I>There is no specific handling for this issue in nginx spec file, si I'd 
+rather think of a generic migration issue. Maybe the fact than pid file 
+location changed between the two releases ?
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+-- 
+BOFH excuse #133:
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 16/03/2012 03:01, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> So I'd rather revert the change, and make lighttpd autonomous also.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Unless someone can convince me there is an advantage having lighttpd
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> executing as 'apache' :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The web applications policy has files being owned by 'apache' user, and
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't see how that could work if lighttpd used a different user:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Web_applications_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Web_applications_policy</A>
+</I>This policy was crafted with apache in mind only, not all available web 
+servers. And its explicitely refers to apache integration, not generic 
+webserver compatibility. For instance, the configuration file provided 
+is apache-specific. Even if we have compatible file permissions, and if 
+we asked packagers to also provide a default lighttpd configuration file 
+(slighly more work), that would still be mostly theorical compatibility 
+without actual testing from the packagers (many more work).
+
+So, rather than a potential compatibility, without documented limits, 
+should we rather not make clear than adapting our web applications 
+package to any other web server than apache is fully up to the end user ?
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+-- 
+BOFH excuse #202:
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+kernel panic: write-only-memory (/dev/wom0) capacity exceeded.
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+    <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> 
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+<PRE>On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 01:10, Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 15.03.2012 22:07, Dan Fandrich kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 03:25:40PM +0100, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Replacing Mandriva -&gt; Mageia in user-visible text makes sense, but what
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> exactly is the MIME type used for? If the underlying data format hasn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> changed (whatever it is), then this isn't something that should really be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> modified, any more than renaming image/vnd.microsoft.icon to something
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> else.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1, we shouldn't change the MIME type here.
+</I>
+Agreed. But it's not that important now: this code portion was a
+prototype at the time, has not been used/tested for years (no Kiosk
+server serving application/x-mdv-exec since Dec. 2006), and this MIME
+type was created for this very use case.
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+Should we think about some sort of Web-based app store, we'd need to
+redesign it from scratch and in a better, modular way (options are not
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 15.03.2012 19:53, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 15 Mar 2012, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's just an update of /etc/{services,protocols} files (current ones are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3-years old).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Submitted.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please push it again. It's updated. I have excluded firmly run-parts from 
+</I>&gt;<i> setup, it's provided through a stand-alone package.
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 15.03.2012 20:22, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 15.03.2012 19:53, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 15 Mar 2012, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's just an update of /etc/{services,protocols} files (current ones are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3-years old).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Submitted.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please push it again. It's updated. I have excluded firmly run-parts from 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> setup, it's provided through a stand-alone package.
+</I>&gt;<i> Please push also run-parts, it's updated to the latest version from Debian 
+</I>&gt;<i> package and installing of localized man pages is fixed. I've already 
+</I>&gt;<i> updated it 2 months ago waiting for review...
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> guillomovitch &lt;guillomovitch&gt; 1.0.10-2.mga2:
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+by the way, you also need to patch it or to update it to 1.0.14 to fix 
+security issue CVE-2012-1180:
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+&gt;<i> 16.03.2012 03:07, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, 15 Mar 2012, Anne nicolas wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Beta 2 is available now  for tests. Here is the announcement:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/03/15/mageia-2-beta-2-near-the-goal/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/03/15/mageia-2-beta-2-near-the-goal/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; We need your tests and reports more than ever!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi Anne, I gave feedback with regards to serious issues when trying
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; beta 1 on a Cedarview Atom system, but apart from a couple of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; isolated replies (thanks to those who did reply) that unfortunately
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; didn't solve the issues I got no further interest.
+</I>&gt;<i> And the bug number is?
+</I>
+Does your post mean you looked at the info I provided in the previous 
+emails and you concluded that I'm hitting a bug?
+
+As I said before I don't know if I'm hitting a bug or if it's a 
+configuration issue, that's what I was trying to find out here.
+ 
+My main problem is I don't really understand how the GMA3600 needs to be 
+configured, I don't know what this DRM kernel driver that's included in 
+3.3.7rc7 is, is it equivalent to a framebuffer driver, or do I still 
+have to use the generic vesa framebuffer?
+
+Regardless of that, out of the box I'm not getting any picture with this 
+GPU (the screen goes into stand-by once the DRM kernel module is 
+activated at boot).
+
+I did manage to manually configure xorg to use the generic vesa 
+framebuffer but this way I don't seem to get any DRI capability which I 
+thought the GMA3600 DRM kernel module was supposed to provide.
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+There don't seem to be any docs anywhere with regards to this, neither 
+in the kernel docs nor on the internet, at least I didn't find anything.
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+As it stands Mageia is unusable on a Cedarview Atom for a normal user, 
+and even I'm quite at loss here as I only managed to get generic vesa 
+xorg working (after a lot of trial and error).
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+At least with other distros (Centos 6.2 or Fedora 17 alpha) xorg with 
+the generic vesa driver works out of the box (but those distros don't 
+have the latest kernel with the GMA3600 DRM kernel module).
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012, Sander Lepik wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 16.03.2012 03:07, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tux99-mga at uridium.org</A> kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 15 Mar 2012, Anne nicolas wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Beta 2 is available now  for tests. Here is the announcement:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/03/15/mageia-2-beta-2-near-the-goal/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/03/15/mageia-2-beta-2-near-the-goal/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We need your tests and reports more than ever!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Anne, I gave feedback with regards to serious issues when trying
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> beta 1 on a Cedarview Atom system, but apart from a couple of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> isolated replies (thanks to those who did reply) that unfortunately
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> didn't solve the issues I got no further interest.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And the bug number is?
+</I>&gt;<i> Does your post mean you looked at the info I provided in the previous
+</I>&gt;<i> emails and you concluded that I'm hitting a bug?
+</I>Well, if it doesn't work for you out-of-the-box then yes, AFAIK you are 
+hitting some kind of bug. It's bug at least for you. And you should 
+report it so we can track it. Complaining in the list has no use here. 
+You can't assign thread to some packager. If it comes out that it's not 
+bug but some kind of other problem then there is solution for that - 
+it's called &quot;RESOLVED -&gt; INVALID&quot;. ;)
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Beta 2 is available now  for tests. Here is the announcement:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/03/15/mageia-2-beta-2-near-the-goal/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/03/15/mageia-2-beta-2-near-the-goal/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is the last beta for Mageia 2 and before RC. We need your tests and
+</I>&gt;<i> reports more than ever!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks again all for the hard work
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>
+You may want to fix this ;)
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+&quot;Your download of Mageia 2 beta2 64bit DVD should start within a few 
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+<PRE>On 16/03/12 09:02, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 16/03/2012 03:01, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So I'd rather revert the change, and make lighttpd autonomous also.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Unless someone can convince me there is an advantage having lighttpd
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> executing as 'apache' :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The web applications policy has files being owned by 'apache' user, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't see how that could work if lighttpd used a different user:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Web_applications_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Web_applications_policy</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> This policy was crafted with apache in mind only, not all available web servers.
+</I>&gt;<i> And its explicitely refers to apache integration, not generic webserver
+</I>&gt;<i> compatibility. For instance, the configuration file provided is apache-specific.
+</I>&gt;<i> Even if we have compatible file permissions, and if we asked packagers to also
+</I>&gt;<i> provide a default lighttpd configuration file (slighly more work), that would
+</I>&gt;<i> still be mostly theorical compatibility without actual testing from the
+</I>&gt;<i> packagers (many more work).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So, rather than a potential compatibility, without documented limits, should we
+</I>&gt;<i> rather not make clear than adapting our web applications package to any other
+</I>&gt;<i> web server than apache is fully up to the end user ?
+</I>
+I agree with Guillaume on that. Some web applications might work with lighttpd
+and apache, but the other web servers might be incompatible. It's better for now
+to say that web apps are packaged for apache, and maybe, in the wiki, people can
+write how to adapt to other web servers.
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+&gt;<i> Hi all!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, I've just upgraded my home server to mga2/cauldron.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Something seems fishy in the network.service handling, systemd thinks it
+</I>&gt;<i> has failed:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # systemctl status network.service
+</I>&gt;<i> network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
+</I>&gt;<i>            Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network)
+</I>&gt;<i>            Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri, 16 Mar 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> 05:25:09 +0200; 11min ago
+</I>&gt;<i>            CGroup: name=systemd:/system/network.service
+</I>&gt;<i>                    &#9500; 4679 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i eth0
+</I>&gt;<i>                    &#9500; 4723 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i eth1
+</I>&gt;<i>                    &#9492; 5372 /sbin/dhclient -q -lf
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-eth0.leases -pf /var/run/dhclient-eth0.pid -cf
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/dhclient-eth0.conf...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:09 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth1)[4723]: Using detection mode:
+</I>&gt;<i> SIOCETHTOOL
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:09 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth1)[4723]: Initialization
+</I>&gt;<i> complete, link beat not detected.
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:09 delta.onse.fi network[4397]: [161B blob data]
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:09 delta.onse.fi network[4397]: [14B blob data]
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:13 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[4679]: Link beat detected.
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:14 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[4679]: Executing
+</I>&gt;<i> '/etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.action eth0 up'.
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:15 delta.onse.fi dhclient[5312]: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to
+</I>&gt;<i> 255.255.255.255 port 67
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:15 delta.onse.fi dhclient[5312]: DHCPACK from 109.204.128.1
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:15 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[4679]: client: Determining
+</I>&gt;<i> IP information for eth0... done.
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:15 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[4679]: Program executed
+</I>&gt;<i> successfully.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Trying to restart it I seem to hit other issues:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # systemctl restart network.service
+</I>&gt;<i> Job failed. See system journal and 'systemctl status' for details.
+</I>&gt;<i> # systemctl status network.service
+</I>&gt;<i> network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
+</I>&gt;<i>            Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network)
+</I>&gt;<i>            Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri, 16 Mar 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> 05:36:39 +0200; 3s ago
+</I>&gt;<i>           Process: 8027 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/init.d/network start
+</I>&gt;<i> (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
+</I>&gt;<i>            CGroup: name=systemd:/system/network.service
+</I>&gt;<i>                    &#9500; 8195 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i eth0
+</I>&gt;<i>                    &#9492; 8353 /sbin/dhclient -q -lf
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-eth0.leases -pf /var/run/dhclient-eth0.pid -cf
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/dhclient-eth0.conf...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi network[8027]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi network[8027]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi network[8027]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi network[8027]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi dhclient[8261]: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to
+</I>&gt;<i> 255.255.255.255 port 67
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi dhclient[8261]: DHCPACK from 109.204.128.1
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[8195]: client: Determining
+</I>&gt;<i> IP information for eth0...NETLINK: Error: File exists
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[8195]: client:  done.
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[8195]: client: NETLINK:
+</I>&gt;<i> Error: File exists
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[8195]: Program executed
+</I>&gt;<i> successfully.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any ideas? If not, I'll investigate this myself later.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On a related note, I also got dropped to emergency console on first
+</I>&gt;<i> boot, not sure why was that (it didn't tell me the reason... maybe the
+</I>&gt;<i> reason was in another virtual console, but I didn't remember to check
+</I>&gt;<i> there at the time). I just exited the console and it continued to boot...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I see the following in systemctl --failed:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # systemctl --failed
+</I>&gt;<i> UNIT                         LOAD   ACTIVE SUB    JOB DESCRIPTION
+</I>&gt;<i> bootparamd.service           loaded ESC[1;31mfailed failedESC[0m
+</I>&gt;<i> SYSV: The bootparamd server allows older Sun workstations to net boot
+</I>&gt;<i> from Linux boxes. It (along with rarp) is rarely used anymore; bootp and
+</I>&gt;<i> dhcp have mostly replaced both of them.
+</I>&gt;<i> fedora-loadmodules.service   loaded ESC[1;31mfailed failedESC[0m
+</I>&gt;<i> Load legacy module configuration
+</I>&gt;<i> network.service              loaded ESC[1;31mfailed failedESC[0m
+</I>&gt;<i> LSB: Bring up/down networking
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd-modules-load.service loaded ESC[1;31mfailed failedESC[0m
+</I>&gt;<i> Load Kernel Modules
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Not sure if its related, but I am seeing the same failures of 
+fedora-loadmodules and systemd-modules-load, however the network comes 
+up OK.
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at zmhost</A> baz]# systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service
+systemd-modules-load.service - Load Kernel Modules
+           Loaded: loaded 
+(/lib/systemd/system/systemd-modules-load.service; static)
+           Active: failed (Result: timeout) since Wed, 14 Mar 2012 
+13:38:28 +0000; 1 day and 22h ago
+         Main PID: 391
+           CGroup: name=systemd:/system/systemd-modules-load.service
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at zmhost</A> baz]# systemctl status fedora-loadmodules.service
+fedora-loadmodules.service - Load legacy module configuration
+           Loaded: loaded 
+(/lib/systemd/system/fedora-loadmodules.service; static)
+           Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Wed, 14 Mar 2012 
+13:38:28 +0000; 1 day and 22h ago
+         Main PID: 386 (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
+           CGroup: name=systemd:/system/fedora-loadmodules.service
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at zmhost</A> baz]# systemctl status network.service
+network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
+           Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network)
+           Active: active (running) since Wed, 14 Mar 2012 13:38:32 
++0000; 1 day and 22h ago
+           CGroup: name=systemd:/system/network.service
+                   &#9492; 1336 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i eth0
+
+These time out before boot can complete.
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Anssi Hannula at 16/03/12 03:45 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi all!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So, I've just upgraded my home server to mga2/cauldron.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Something seems fishy in the network.service handling, systemd thinks it
+</I>&gt;<i> has failed:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> # systemctl status network.service
+</I>&gt;<i> network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
+</I>&gt;<i>           Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network)
+</I>&gt;<i>           Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri, 16 Mar 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> 05:25:09 +0200; 11min ago
+</I>&gt;<i>           CGroup: name=systemd:/system/network.service
+</I>&gt;<i>                   &#9500; 4679 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i eth0
+</I>&gt;<i>                   &#9500; 4723 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i eth1
+</I>&gt;<i>                   &#9492; 5372 /sbin/dhclient -q -lf
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-eth0.leases -pf /var/run/dhclient-eth0.pid -cf
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/dhclient-eth0.conf...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:09 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth1)[4723]: Using detection mode:
+</I>&gt;<i> SIOCETHTOOL
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:09 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth1)[4723]: Initialization
+</I>&gt;<i> complete, link beat not detected.
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:09 delta.onse.fi network[4397]: [161B blob data]
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:09 delta.onse.fi network[4397]: [14B blob data]
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:13 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[4679]: Link beat detected.
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:14 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[4679]: Executing
+</I>&gt;<i> '/etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.action eth0 up'.
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:15 delta.onse.fi dhclient[5312]: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to
+</I>&gt;<i> 255.255.255.255 port 67
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:15 delta.onse.fi dhclient[5312]: DHCPACK from 109.204.128.1
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:15 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[4679]: client: Determining
+</I>&gt;<i> IP information for eth0... done.
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:15 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[4679]: Program executed
+</I>&gt;<i> successfully.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Trying to restart it I seem to hit other issues:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> # systemctl restart network.service
+</I>&gt;<i> Job failed. See system journal and 'systemctl status' for details.
+</I>&gt;<i> # systemctl status network.service
+</I>&gt;<i> network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
+</I>&gt;<i>           Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network)
+</I>&gt;<i>           Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri, 16 Mar 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> 05:36:39 +0200; 3s ago
+</I>&gt;<i>          Process: 8027 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/init.d/network start
+</I>&gt;<i> (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
+</I>&gt;<i>           CGroup: name=systemd:/system/network.service
+</I>&gt;<i>                   &#9500; 8195 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i eth0
+</I>&gt;<i>                   &#9492; 8353 /sbin/dhclient -q -lf
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-eth0.leases -pf /var/run/dhclient-eth0.pid -cf
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/dhclient-eth0.conf...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi network[8027]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi network[8027]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi network[8027]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi network[8027]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi dhclient[8261]: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to
+</I>&gt;<i> 255.255.255.255 port 67
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi dhclient[8261]: DHCPACK from 109.204.128.1
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[8195]: client: Determining
+</I>&gt;<i> IP information for eth0...NETLINK: Error: File exists
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[8195]: client:  done.
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[8195]: client: NETLINK:
+</I>&gt;<i> Error: File exists
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[8195]: Program executed
+</I>&gt;<i> successfully.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Any ideas? If not, I'll investigate this myself later.
+</I>
+network.service fails here too, but I've not been able to work out
+exactly why. It doens't bother me too much tho' as all my devices are
+using network manager!
+
+THat said, it seems that network.service has still started an ifplugd
+for my wlan, despite the ifcfg file clearly saying that NM should take
+care of that interface... needs some investigating for sure.
+
+
+&gt;<i> On a related note, I also got dropped to emergency console on first
+</I>&gt;<i> boot, not sure why was that (it didn't tell me the reason... maybe the
+</I>&gt;<i> reason was in another virtual console, but I didn't remember to check
+</I>&gt;<i> there at the time). I just exited the console and it continued to boot...
+</I>
+Interesting. Was it a dracut shell or a systemd one? (sometimes hard to
+tell which is which, but the text usually tells you.
+
+Knowing which should help identify why. Does it happen on subsequent boots?
+
+&gt;<i> I see the following in systemctl --failed:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> # systemctl --failed
+</I>&gt;<i> UNIT                         LOAD   ACTIVE SUB    JOB DESCRIPTION
+</I>&gt;<i> bootparamd.service           loaded ESC[1;31mfailed failedESC[0m
+</I>&gt;<i> SYSV: The bootparamd server allows older Sun workstations to net boot
+</I>&gt;<i> from Linux boxes. It (along with rarp) is rarely used anymore; bootp and
+</I>&gt;<i> dhcp have mostly replaced both of them.
+</I>&gt;<i> fedora-loadmodules.service   loaded ESC[1;31mfailed failedESC[0m
+</I>&gt;<i> Load legacy module configuration
+</I>
+dmorgan reported this as well, but it's a really simple script and
+really shouldn't fail.
+
+I think it must be the /etc/rc.modules script that is likely failing
+here. Perhaps trying to modprobe a module that no longer exists due to
+old configuration? If possible can you debug the fedora-load-modules
+service and comment out one half of the script such that only the
+rc.modules bit is run and confirm that's where it's bust. Then maybe
+work out what in rc.modules is broken. That woudl be useful as it works
+fine here.
+
+&gt;<i> network.service              loaded ESC[1;31mfailed failedESC[0m
+</I>&gt;<i> LSB: Bring up/down networking
+</I>
+Mentioned above. Needs to be debugged.
+
+&gt;<i> systemd-modules-load.service loaded ESC[1;31mfailed failedESC[0m
+</I>&gt;<i> Load Kernel Modules
+</I>
+Yeah this one fails for me too. Not sure why, but maybe because I've
+done something stupid and symlinked stuff into /etc/modules-load.d when
+I shouldn't. I'll look into it.
+
+
+
+Incidentally, just answering your private tmp question from IRC...
+
+This is what Lennart had to say about it:
+&lt;mezcalero&gt; coling: the /tmp dir used by PrivateTmp lies beneath /tmp
+&lt;mezcalero&gt; coling: hence, if /tmp is cleaned up those private tmps will
+be cleaned up too
+&lt;mezcalero&gt; coling: since the clean-up is recursive
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> Le 16/03/2012 03:01, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So I'd rather revert the change, and make lighttpd autonomous also.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Unless someone can convince me there is an advantage having lighttpd
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> executing as 'apache' :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The web applications policy has files being owned by 'apache' user, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't see how that could work if lighttpd used a different user:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Web_applications_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Web_applications_policy</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> This policy was crafted with apache in mind only, not all available web
+</I>&gt;<i> servers. And its explicitely refers to apache integration, not generic
+</I>&gt;<i> webserver compatibility. For instance, the configuration file provided
+</I>&gt;<i> is apache-specific. Even if we have compatible file permissions, and if
+</I>&gt;<i> we asked packagers to also provide a default lighttpd configuration file
+</I>&gt;<i> (slighly more work), that would still be mostly theorical compatibility
+</I>&gt;<i> without actual testing from the packagers (many more work).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So, rather than a potential compatibility, without documented limits,
+</I>&gt;<i> should we rather not make clear than adapting our web applications
+</I>&gt;<i> package to any other web server than apache is fully up to the end user ?
+</I>
+It is rather easy for the user to create a lighttpd configuration file
+themselves etc, however it is much more difficult for the user to start
+changing/guessing the needed file permissions for the larger applications.
+
+Also, any changes would be overwritten by any upgrade, which is quite
+bad IMO.
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+packages)
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+<PRE>16.03.2012 14:45, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Anssi Hannula at 16/03/12 03:45 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi all!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So, I've just upgraded my home server to mga2/cauldron.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Something seems fishy in the network.service handling, systemd thinks it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> has failed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # systemctl status network.service
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>           Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>           Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri, 16 Mar 2012
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 05:25:09 +0200; 11min ago
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>           CGroup: name=systemd:/system/network.service
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>                   &#9500; 4679 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i eth0
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>                   &#9500; 4723 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i eth1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>                   &#9492; 5372 /sbin/dhclient -q -lf
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-eth0.leases -pf /var/run/dhclient-eth0.pid -cf
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /etc/dhclient-eth0.conf...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:09 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth1)[4723]: Using detection mode:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> SIOCETHTOOL
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:09 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth1)[4723]: Initialization
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> complete, link beat not detected.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:09 delta.onse.fi network[4397]: [161B blob data]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:09 delta.onse.fi network[4397]: [14B blob data]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:13 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[4679]: Link beat detected.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:14 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[4679]: Executing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> '/etc/ifplugd/ifplugd.action eth0 up'.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:15 delta.onse.fi dhclient[5312]: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 255.255.255.255 port 67
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:15 delta.onse.fi dhclient[5312]: DHCPACK from 109.204.128.1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:15 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[4679]: client: Determining
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IP information for eth0... done.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:25:15 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[4679]: Program executed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> successfully.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Trying to restart it I seem to hit other issues:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # systemctl restart network.service
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Job failed. See system journal and 'systemctl status' for details.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # systemctl status network.service
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> network.service - LSB: Bring up/down networking
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>           Loaded: loaded (/etc/rc.d/init.d/network)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>           Active: failed (Result: exit-code) since Fri, 16 Mar 2012
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 05:36:39 +0200; 3s ago
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>          Process: 8027 ExecStart=/etc/rc.d/init.d/network start
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>           CGroup: name=systemd:/system/network.service
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>                   &#9500; 8195 /sbin/ifplugd -I -b -i eth0
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>                   &#9492; 8353 /sbin/dhclient -q -lf
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient-eth0.leases -pf /var/run/dhclient-eth0.pid -cf
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /etc/dhclient-eth0.conf...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi network[8027]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi network[8027]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi network[8027]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi network[8027]: RTNETLINK answers: File exists
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:39 delta.onse.fi dhclient[8261]: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 255.255.255.255 port 67
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi dhclient[8261]: DHCPACK from 109.204.128.1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[8195]: client: Determining
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IP information for eth0...NETLINK: Error: File exists
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[8195]: client:  done.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[8195]: client: NETLINK:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Error: File exists
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 16 05:36:40 delta.onse.fi ifplugd(eth0)[8195]: Program executed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> successfully.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any ideas? If not, I'll investigate this myself later.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> network.service fails here too, but I've not been able to work out
+</I>&gt;<i> exactly why. It doens't bother me too much tho' as all my devices are
+</I>&gt;<i> using network manager!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> THat said, it seems that network.service has still started an ifplugd
+</I>&gt;<i> for my wlan, despite the ifcfg file clearly saying that NM should take
+</I>&gt;<i> care of that interface... needs some investigating for sure.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On a related note, I also got dropped to emergency console on first
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> boot, not sure why was that (it didn't tell me the reason... maybe the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reason was in another virtual console, but I didn't remember to check
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there at the time). I just exited the console and it continued to boot...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Interesting. Was it a dracut shell or a systemd one? (sometimes hard to
+</I>&gt;<i> tell which is which, but the text usually tells you.
+</I>
+I think it was a systemd one (it seemed to be quite late in the boot,
+when I exited it the next thing it did was build DKMS stuff).
+
+&gt;<i> Knowing which should help identify why. Does it happen on subsequent boots?
+</I>
+No idea yet, but will reboot the system now.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> I see the following in systemctl --failed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # systemctl --failed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> UNIT                         LOAD   ACTIVE SUB    JOB DESCRIPTION
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bootparamd.service           loaded ESC[1;31mfailed failedESC[0m
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> SYSV: The bootparamd server allows older Sun workstations to net boot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from Linux boxes. It (along with rarp) is rarely used anymore; bootp and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dhcp have mostly replaced both of them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fedora-loadmodules.service   loaded ESC[1;31mfailed failedESC[0m
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Load legacy module configuration
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> dmorgan reported this as well, but it's a really simple script and
+</I>&gt;<i> really shouldn't fail.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it must be the /etc/rc.modules script that is likely failing
+</I>&gt;<i> here. Perhaps trying to modprobe a module that no longer exists due to
+</I>&gt;<i> old configuration? If possible can you debug the fedora-load-modules
+</I>&gt;<i> service and comment out one half of the script such that only the
+</I>&gt;<i> rc.modules bit is run and confirm that's where it's bust. Then maybe
+</I>&gt;<i> work out what in rc.modules is broken. That woudl be useful as it works
+</I>&gt;<i> fine here.
+</I>
+Actually it is because /etc/modprobe.preload contains some non-existing
+modules (like psmouse), and /etc/modprobe.preload.d/cpufreq
+(cpufreq_performance).
+
+bootparamd failed because I had no /etc/bootparamd. I'm pretty sure I've
+not installed bootparamd myself, but it was a leaf package now so I
+simply removed it.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> network.service              loaded ESC[1;31mfailed failedESC[0m
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> LSB: Bring up/down networking
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Mentioned above. Needs to be debugged.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> systemd-modules-load.service loaded ESC[1;31mfailed failedESC[0m
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Load Kernel Modules
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah this one fails for me too. Not sure why, but maybe because I've
+</I>&gt;<i> done something stupid and symlinked stuff into /etc/modules-load.d when
+</I>&gt;<i> I shouldn't. I'll look into it.
+</I>
+I guess this would be for the same reason as fedora-loadmodules.service...
+
+BTW, isn't this duplication? Well, I guess not completely,
+/etc/modules-load.d doesn't contain the stuff from
+/etc/modprobe.preload.d/, only /etc/modprobe.preload and /etc/modules.
+
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Incidentally, just answering your private tmp question from IRC...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This is what Lennart had to say about it:
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mezcalero&gt; coling: the /tmp dir used by PrivateTmp lies beneath /tmp
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mezcalero&gt; coling: hence, if /tmp is cleaned up those private tmps will
+</I>&gt;<i> be cleaned up too
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mezcalero&gt; coling: since the clean-up is recursive
+</I>
+Ah, clever. Though I should've recognized it was just a simple
+bind-mount... I'll blame my tiredness for this as well :)
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 08:37:26 +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 15 March 2012 20:47, guillomovitch
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> guillomovitch&lt;guillomovitch&gt;  1.0.10-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> by the way, you also need to patch it or to update it to 1.0.14 to fix
+</I>&gt;<i> security issue CVE-2012-1180:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/644">http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/644</A>
+</I>In progress...
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+&gt;<i> Le 16/03/2012 08:37, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 15 March 2012 20:47, guillomovitch&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> guillomovitch&lt;guillomovitch&gt; 1.0.10-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 223512
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - sync configuration files with fedora package
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - drop useless apache dependency
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - spec cleanup
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - systemd support
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ahem:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 8/36: nginx ##warning: /etc/nginx/nginx.conf
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> created as /etc/nginx/nginx.conf.rpmnew
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ###################################################################################################################################################
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Migrating sysvinit service 'nginx' to systemd native unit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'nginx.service' for target 'graphical.target'
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> warning: %post(nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> status 1
+</I>&gt;<i> There is no specific handling for this issue in nginx spec file, si I'd
+</I>&gt;<i> rather think of a generic migration issue. Maybe the fact than pid file
+</I>&gt;<i> location changed between the two releases ?
+</I>Let me call a joker... Colin :) ?
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+<A HREF="http://mailman.nginx.org/pipermail/nginx-announce/2012/000076.html">http://mailman.nginx.org/pipermail/nginx-announce/2012/000076.html</A>
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+&gt;<i> Le 16/03/2012 09:51, Guillaume Rousse a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 16/03/2012 08:37, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 15 March 2012 20:47, guillomovitch&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> guillomovitch&lt;guillomovitch&gt; 1.0.10-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 223512
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - sync configuration files with fedora package
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - drop useless apache dependency
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - spec cleanup
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - systemd support
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ahem:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 8/36: nginx ##warning: /etc/nginx/nginx.conf
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> created as /etc/nginx/nginx.conf.rpmnew
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ###################################################################################################################################################
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Migrating sysvinit service 'nginx' to systemd native unit
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'nginx.service' for target 'graphical.target'
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> warning: %post(nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> status 1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is no specific handling for this issue in nginx spec file, si I'd
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rather think of a generic migration issue. Maybe the fact than pid file
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> location changed between the two releases ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Let me call a joker... Colin :) ?
+</I>
+:<i>)
+</I>
+Not sure why the scriptlet failed....
+
+This is part of %_post_service btw.
+
+I guess I'll have to have a look.
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+&gt;<i> It's already the case. If you re-read Ennael's mail about version freeze,
+</I>&gt;<i> it says exactly that about exceptions.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>
+i'm looking at this mail, but don't see the exact same exceptions?
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+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 16 maart 2012 08:57:45 schreef Samuel Verschelde:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's already the case. If you re-read Ennael's mail about version freeze,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it says exactly that about exceptions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i'm looking at this mail, but don't see the exact same exceptions?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012533.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012533.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> which email are you looking at?
+</I>
+Criteria for accepting updates
+------------------------------------------
+Since we aim for stability, the criteria would be near the ones of
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 15:11, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op vrijdag 16 maart 2012 08:57:45 schreef Samuel Verschelde:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It's already the case. If you re-read Ennael's mail about version
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; freeze, it says exactly that about exceptions.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i'm looking at this mail, but don't see the exact same exceptions?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012533.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-March/012533.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; which email are you looking at?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Criteria for accepting updates
+</I>&gt;<i> ------------------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> Since we aim for stability, the criteria would be near the ones of
+</I>&gt;<i> updates.
+</I>
+ah, like this...
+
+i read this as &quot;near&quot; (ie: not exact) and then the next parts were 
+clarifications on the criteria (and the client/server protocol ones weren't in 
+there).
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+my bad, although in my defence, it could have been worded better, or a wiki 
+policy with a link to it in this email.
+
+imho, if this were clearer, then i would guess misc would on his original 
+email likely ask questions regarding client/server protocol changes as well... 
+so i can only conclude that it might not have been 100% clear for everyone. 
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+&gt;<i> Please push mariadb:
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+</I>&gt;<i> mariadb (and mysql) seem to have an odd method of increasing version number 
+</I>&gt;<i> for each of there alpha/beta/rc/final versions.
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+</I>&gt;<i> This updates to the 5.5 Beta release (it's not announced yet, but they are 
+</I>&gt;<i> waiting for it to hit all the mirrors)
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+</I>&gt;<i> Normally, the final is expected to released in about 2 weeks.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;<i> I have fixed two bugs in urpmi bash completion:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4937">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4937</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> However, I'm unaware of any other changes in the perl code itself. Is it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sage to proceed with a new release ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is.
+</I>&gt;<i> Only translations have been updated since last release
+</I>
+Just run the testsuite once as root before uploading.
+It should pass now that I've fixed the regressions from <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mdv at 2010</A>
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+    <B>Juergen Harms</B> 
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+&gt;<i> It's better for now
+</I>&gt;<i> to say that web apps are packaged for apache, and maybe, in the wiki, people can
+</I>&gt;<i> write how to adapt to other web servers.
+</I>
+Maybe the approach used for the backuppc package is a good compromise: 
+The package contains and installs the apache server definition. But the 
+package also contains a README.MGA file that - among other items - 
+contains a recommendation on how to create a backuppc server for lighttpd.
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+This approach is perfectly in line with the &quot;packaged-for-apache&quot; 
+concept, and it makes life easy for users who - for whatever reason - 
+need to run lighttpd. The mageia wiki is great, and there is interest to 
+push people to go to the wiki. But a README file that comes with the 
+package is the first place where a user will look for this kind of 
+information; and it is more likely to get updated with a new release of 
+backuppc than a - separate - page in the wiki.
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+&gt;<i> On 16 March 2012 08:25, Thierry Vignaud&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have fixed two bugs in urpmi bash completion:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4937">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4937</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> However, I'm unaware of any other changes in the perl code itself. Is it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sage to proceed with a new release ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Only translations have been updated since last release
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just run the testsuite once as root before uploading.
+</I>&gt;<i> It should pass now that I've fixed the regressions from <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mdv at 2010</A>
+</I>Actually, I'd prefer to let you handle it. Yes, I know, I'm a lazy 
+opportunist :)
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+BOFH excuse #189:
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+&gt;<i> Ping...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> /Enviado desde mi tel&#233;fono Verizon Wireless/
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> -----Mensaje original-----
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>     *De: *Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dlucio at okay.com.mx</A>&gt;*
+</I>&gt;<i>     Para: *<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>*
+</I>&gt;<i>     Enviado: *jue, mar 15, 2012 20:33:46 GMT+00:00*
+</I>&gt;<i>     Asunto: *[Mageia-dev] Please push openvpn
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+</I>&gt;<i>     It updates to 2.2.2, and adds S3 to fix bug 4936
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+</I>&gt;<i>     /Enviado desde mi tel&#233;fono Verizon Wireless/
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+    <B>Jeff Robins</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bbugs%5D%20%5BBug%203466%5D%20Add%20radeon-firmware%20in%20the%20Isos%0A%20or%20add%20radeon.modeset%3D0%20option&In-Reply-To=%3CCAHC-z7LaHNDxBaGe1Jaz5xRqDKPun9_%2BSXOq2YjgALmLQGN8NA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+    <I>Fri Mar 16 23:13:55 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Priscus &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bugzilla-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3466">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3466</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --- Comment #26 from Priscus &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">wizzard at twa-corbies.net</A>&gt; 2012-03-16 21:19:18 CET ---
+</I>&gt;<i> (In reply to comment #23)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; That is as intended: all radeon video cards need the firmware files for KMS
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just fyi. My 7 year old Radeon 9200 SE doesn't have any firmware available,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and worked fine without any, prior to Mageia 2. &#160;With Magiea 2, I have to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> set radeon.modeset=0 to avoid the thousands of lines of error messages.
+</I>&gt;<i> Probably because KMS was not yet the default for the Radeon 9200?
+</I>&gt;<i> Needing the firmware is a rather recent development.
+</I>&gt;<i> The R9200 firmware is the usual all-in-one radeon-firmware package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The beta2 still needs radeon.modeset=0 at first boot. I know it is in the
+</I>&gt;<i> errata, but non-technical users will not look at it, and they're the one to
+</I>&gt;<i> need it most.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It would probably be better to configure it by default. This would give
+</I>&gt;<i> everyone a working system at first boot (and typing the line is a bother when
+</I>&gt;<i> you do not use qwerty: you get the a.m to guess on azerty, for example).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It should be possible to automagically remove the line from the bootloader with
+</I>&gt;<i> a post-install script in radeon-firmware, with bonus points for leaving it in
+</I>&gt;<i> failsafe mode.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Even without this last luxury, I think it is much better to give users a
+</I>&gt;<i> working setup by default. The current version will give bad reviews from blogs
+</I>&gt;<i> with more reach than technical know-how (I'll not give names, but I'm thinking
+</I>&gt;<i> of some) and tonnes of questions/complaints in the forums, with users unable to
+</I>&gt;<i> understand they all have the same damn problem (happened for Mageia 1).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia and the community would be better off without the noise and botheration.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards, and thank you for all your work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Configure bugmail: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email">https://bugs.mageia.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ------- You are receiving this mail because: -------
+</I>&gt;<i> You are watching all bug changes.
+</I>
++1.
+
+I can't recommend Mageia to friends when there is a high probability
+that there system will be unusable on first boot.  On two of my three
+systems I couldn't even a command-line because the video for that was
+corrupted as well.
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+<PRE>16.03.2012 19:47, Juergen Harms kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> On 03/16/2012 01:00 PM, Malo wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's better for now
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to say that web apps are packaged for apache, and maybe, in the wiki,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> write how to adapt to other web servers.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe the approach used for the backuppc package is a good compromise:
+</I>&gt;<i> The package contains and installs the apache server definition. But the
+</I>&gt;<i> package also contains a README.MGA file that - among other items -
+</I>&gt;<i> contains a recommendation on how to create a backuppc server for lighttpd.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This approach is perfectly in line with the &quot;packaged-for-apache&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> concept, and it makes life easy for users who - for whatever reason -
+</I>&gt;<i> need to run lighttpd. The mageia wiki is great, and there is interest to
+</I>&gt;<i> push people to go to the wiki. But a README file that comes with the
+</I>&gt;<i> package is the first place where a user will look for this kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> information; and it is more likely to get updated with a new release of
+</I>&gt;<i> backuppc than a - separate - page in the wiki.
+</I>
+This doesn't work for webapps that need server-writable
+directories/files that are owned by the server user, since any changes
+to the ownerships the user makes would be overridden on upgrade.
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+Hence I suggest a single user id to be used. (I'm fine with any other
+solution which works as well)
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+Anssi Hannula
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+</I>I don't know if it is related, but with yesterday updates come kde 
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+&gt;<i> After reboot, 100%cpu for more than 10mn with :
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+    <B>Sander Lepik</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Firefox 11?">sander.lepik at eesti.ee
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+    <I>Sat Mar 17 10:37:00 CET 2012</I>
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+&gt;<i> Just wondering whether Firefox 11 is going to make it into Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> 2 . . .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thx,
+</I>&gt;<i> R.Fox
+</I>Nop, as already discussed quite a few times, we are using ESR from fx10 on.
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+    <B>Funda Wang</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Freeze%20push%3A%20kdevplatform4%2C%20kdevelop4%2C%0A%09kdevelop4-php%2C%20kdevelop4-php-docs&In-Reply-To=%3CCAOfq2QROhZrSDs7nEeyY5YJb2dOuJm-Lq3xA9XQ7Q9JU1hNkiQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4,	kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs">fundawang at gmail.com
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+    <I>Sat Mar 17 12:00:56 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>another ping?
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+2012/3/14 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> ping?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/3/13 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Could somebody push kdevplatform4, kdevelop4, kdevelop4-php,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kdevelop4-php-docs into cauldron. We are aiming at 4.3.0 final for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mga2, and it got out now. You should push kdevplatform4 at first, wait
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it finished, then push other packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks.
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+    <B>Jani V&#228;limaa</B> 
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+    <B>Jani V&#228;limaa</B> 
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+    <B>Funda Wang</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Freeze%20push%3A%20ffmpeg%200.10.2&In-Reply-To=%3CCAOfq2QRuUo5-mTrRPnbWSRe-6-%2BwBJjtnRs1%3D%2B2YBd8jL35tGw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+    <I>Sat Mar 17 12:31:19 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hello,
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+Could somebody push ffmpeg 0.10.2 into core and tainted? It fixed a
+lot of bugs and crashed in almost all the codecs, and a potential
+security overflow in libswscale.
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+Thanks.
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+could somebody please push thunderbird 10.0.3esr
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+    <B>Funda Wang</B> 
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+<PRE>Maybe you could push it into mageia 1 updates_testing at least.
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+2012/3/18 Florian Hubold &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> could somebody please push thunderbird 10.0.3esr
+</I>&gt;<i> and thunderbird-l10n to cauldron? Thanks in advance.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Maybe you could push it into mageia 1 updates_testing at least.
+</I>Hmmm? Why would i need a freeze push request for that?
+I've already asked Anssi via IRC for that, as my account hasn't
+been fitted with submissions rights yet :/
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/3/18 Florian Hubold&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> could somebody please push thunderbird 10.0.3esr
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and thunderbird-l10n to cauldron? Thanks in advance.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Maybe you could push it into mageia 1 updates_testing at least.
+</I>Actually i like how you pushed thunderbird to updates_testing nuking
+the existing thunderbird-10.0.2, which hadn't completed validation yet
+and was about to get pushed to updates by sysadmins.
+Now users have to wait at least another week, so they get all the security
+fixes since Thunderbird 10 ...
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+:<i>/
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/3/18 Florian Hubold &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> could somebody please push thunderbird 10.0.3esr
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Revision 3550 Author pterjan Date 2012-03-18 00:42:31 +0100 (Sun, 18 Mar
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012)
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+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
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+</I>&gt;<i> Kill unionfs support
+</I>
+Why?
+It was a nice speedup when used.
+It was disabled only b/c of a kernel oops long ago
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 18 March 2012 00:42, &#160;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Revision 3550 Author pterjan Date 2012-03-18 00:42:31 +0100 (Sun, 18 Mar
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012)
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Kill unionfs support
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why?
+</I>&gt;<i> It was a nice speedup when used.
+</I>&gt;<i> It was disabled only b/c of a kernel oops long ago
+</I>&gt;<i> which should be OK now
+</I>
+Well unionfs seemed to get different oops in each new version. Anyway
+I don't think it should be done like this (having specific code for
+unionfs everywhere).
+I want to improve current chroot mode (like using a cgroup to easily
+kill all processes or set limits) and have a common api to allow other
+modes, like building in kvm for example, or using lvm/btrfs rw
+snapshots (which should be better supported than unionfs).
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+    <I>Sun Mar 18 11:36:19 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On 18 March 2012 10:51, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Why?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It was a nice speedup when used.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It was disabled only b/c of a kernel oops long ago
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> which should be OK now
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well unionfs seemed to get different oops in each new version. Anyway
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think it should be done like this (having specific code for
+</I>&gt;<i> unionfs everywhere).
+</I>&gt;<i> I want to improve current chroot mode (like using a cgroup to easily
+</I>&gt;<i> kill all processes or set limits) and have a common api to allow other
+</I>&gt;<i> modes, like building in kvm for example, or using lvm/btrfs rw
+</I>&gt;<i> snapshots (which should be better supported than unionfs).
+</I>
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+<PRE>hi,
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+can anyone hint me where to look into to link some hardware pci id with 
+some driver?
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+I am thinking on Broadcom hardware that is unlucky enough to have 3 
+drivers which only works with some hardware :
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+- brcm80211 (open source with firmware included in kernel-firmware-nonfree)
+- wl (proprietary closed source)
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+As I have 2 different cards, and seeing several bug reports I think I 
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+on Wednesday. Could someone with submission rights please ensure that
+all those tarballs are built?
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+I'll try and ensure that at least the SPEC files are already updated
+(via my that is triggered via ftp-release-list). However, I do expect
+various submission failures, etc.
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+Next week will see GNOME 3.4.0. Between 3.3.92 and 3.4.0 is a hard code
+freeze (no code changes unless approved), so 3.4.0 submission process
+should be pretty smooth once 3.3.92 is fully submitted.
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+Packages already released (many more will follow throughout the day):
+(package, new version, current version)
+aisleriot               3.3.2   3.3.1
+evolution               3.3.92  3.3.91
+evolution-data-server   3.3.92  3.3.91
+evolution-exchange      3.3.92  3.3.91
+evolution-groupwise     3.3.92  3.3.91
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+gnome-color-manager     3.3.91  3.3.5
+gnome-doc-utils         0.20.8  0.20.7
+gnome-packagekit        3.3.92  3.3.5
+gnome-power-manager     3.3.92  3.3.3
+gtkhtml4                4.3.92  4.3.91
+gupnp                   0.18.2  0.18.1
+gupnp-dlna              0.6.6   0.6.5
+libpeas                 1.3.0   1.2.0
+modemmanager            0.5.2.0         0.5.1.97
+networkmanager-pptp     0.9.3.995       0.9.0
+networkmanager-vpnc     0.9.3.995       0.9.0
+rhythmbox               2.96    2.95
+seahorse                3.3.91  3.3.5
+totem                   3.3.92  3.3.90
+totem-pl-parser         3.3.92  3.2.0
+yelp-xsl                3.3.92  3.3.3
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+Packages with new versions but not part of GNOME Core/Apps:
+ocrfeeder       0.7.8   0.7.7
+simple-scan     3.3.92  3.2.1
+glom            1.21.7  1.21.6
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+Core/Apps tarball names:
+<A HREF="http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/core/3.3/3.3.91/sources/">http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/core/3.3/3.3.91/sources/</A>
+<A HREF="http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/apps/3.3/3.3.91/sources/">http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/apps/3.3/3.3.91/sources/</A>
+(links will show the upstream names; can differ from Mageia package
+names)
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+Thanks
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+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+    <B>Claire Robinson</B> 
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+&gt;<i> hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> can anyone hint me where to look into to link some hardware pci id with
+</I>&gt;<i> some driver?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am thinking on Broadcom hardware that is unlucky enough to have 3
+</I>&gt;<i> drivers which only works with some hardware :
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+</I>&gt;<i> - b43 (open source with unredistributable firmware)
+</I>&gt;<i> - brcm80211 (open source with firmware included in kernel-firmware-nonfree)
+</I>&gt;<i> - wl (proprietary closed source)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As I have 2 different cards, and seeing several bug reports I think I
+</I>&gt;<i> could sort all this if I know where to commit it.
+</I>
+Some info on arch wiki, does this help?
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Broadcom_wireless#Determine_which_driver_you_need.2Fcan_use">https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Broadcom_wireless#Determine_which_driver_you_need.2Fcan_use</A>
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+</I>Ping?
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le 16/03/2012 15:10, Guillaume Rousse a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> security issue:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mailman.nginx.org/**pipermail/nginx-announce/2012/**000076.html&lt;http://mailman.nginx.org/pipermail/nginx-announce/2012/000076.html">http://mailman.nginx.org/**pipermail/nginx-announce/2012/**000076.html&lt;http://mailman.nginx.org/pipermail/nginx-announce/2012/000076.html</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ping?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Submitted
+</I>
+&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> BOFH excuse #148:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Insert coin for new game
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+Anne
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+    <B>Remco Rijnders</B> 
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">4F6349D2.8040705 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>security issue:
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://mailman.nginx.org/pipermail/nginx-announce/2012/000076.html">http://mailman.nginx.org/pipermail/nginx-announce/2012/000076.html</A>
+</I>
+Hi Guillaume,
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+Do you know if this also fixes the issues reported in 
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3815">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3815</A> ?
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+<PRE>Le 19/03/2012 12:04, Remco Rijnders a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 03:10:26PM +0100, Guillaume wrote in
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">4F6349D2.8040705 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> security issue:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mailman.nginx.org/pipermail/nginx-announce/2012/000076.html">http://mailman.nginx.org/pipermail/nginx-announce/2012/000076.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Guillaume,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you know if this also fixes the issues reported in
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3815">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3815</A> ?
+</I>Partly at last, as I dropped the configuration patch in favor of fedora 
+configuration file. However, at least the &quot;powered-by&quot; icons is still 
+the mandriva one.
+
+-- 
+BOFH excuse #343:
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+&gt;<i> Some info on arch wiki, does this help?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Broadcom_wireless#Determine_which_driver_you_need.2Fcan_use">https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Broadcom_wireless#Determine_which_driver_you_need.2Fcan_use</A>
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+Thanks, but no : this is howto load manually the modules, what I seek 
+for is what file associates the PCI IDs to a driver maybe in 
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have fixed two bugs in urpmi bash completion:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=373</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4937">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4937</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> However, I'm unaware of any other changes in the perl code itself. Is it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sage to proceed with a new release ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It is.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Only translations have been updated since last release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just run the testsuite once as root before uploading.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It should pass now that I've fixed the regressions from <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mdv at 2010</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually, I'd prefer to let you handle it. Yes, I know, I'm a lazy
+</I>&gt;<i> opportunist :)
+</I>
+You didn't describe your changes in NEWS :-)
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+2012/3/17 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> another ping?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/3/14 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ping?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/13 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Could somebody push kdevplatform4, kdevelop4, kdevelop4-php,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> kdevelop4-php-docs into cauldron. We are aiming at 4.3.0 final for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mga2, and it got out now. You should push kdevplatform4 at first, wait
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it finished, then push other packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks.
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+2012/3/17 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could somebody push ffmpeg 0.10.2 into core and tainted? It fixed a
+</I>&gt;<i> lot of bugs and crashed in almost all the codecs, and a potential
+</I>&gt;<i> security overflow in libswscale.
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+I would like to push systemd 44.
+
+There are a number of important fixes regarding endian issues (important
+for our arm port) and some others relating to the management of the
+journal log and file sizes (related ot a problem we have in the current
+version which is already patched with one of the upstream fixes for an
+issue in this regard - tho' it's not the full story).
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+This is the version that will be in Fedora 17 which is approximately in
+line with our schedule, we will be getting the benefit of their testing too.
+
+If this is just crazy talk, I will go through and cherry pick the
+important commits, but this will likely be &gt;60% of the real commits.
+
+I'm obviously running it here.
+
+What say thee?
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+Happy enough to go either way, as the cherry picking won't take too
+long. I'm just not convinced of the benefits vs. the version Fedora are
+going to ship.... :)
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+Col
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+Just to give some summary:
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> systemd (master)]$ git shortlog v43..v44| wc -l
+108
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> systemd (master)]$ git shortlog v43..v44| grep man: | wc -l
+17
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> systemd (master)]$ git shortlog v43..v44| grep TODO | wc -l
+13
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> systemd (master)]$ echo 21; # Lines in the short log for
+user headers
+21
+
+
+So of the 108 lines, 51 are shortlog cruft, and trivial changes (not code).
+
+So only 57 actual commits. 25 of them are related to the journal and we
+will likely include all of those in any cherry picking.
+
+
+The remaining fixes look pretty safe to me.
+
+Dave Reisner (2):
+      systemd-analyze: call os.uname() once
+      mount: properly check return for mount_add_*
+
+Frederic Crozat (3):
+      fix sparse warnings
+
+Harald Hoyer (1):
+      bash-completion: get rid of awk, sed and grep
+
+Kay Sievers (4):
+      systemd-analyze: read /etc/os-release
+      systemctl: forward untrusted user reboot, poweroff requests to logind
+
+Lennart Poettering (69):
+      machine-id: initialize vom qemu/kvm -uuid parameter if available
+      systemctl: introduce systemctl reboot -ff
+      units: reword rescue/emergency mode message to fit in 80chars
+      login: document new sd_session_get_xxx() calls
+      sd-login: c++ compatibility
+      umount: don't try to umount /usr, if we are running from it
+      socket: rename 'broken' failure result to 'failed-permanent' on
+order not to introduce new terminology
+      nspawn: be less cryptic when clone() fails
+      conf: enforce UTF8 validty everywhere
+      socket: add option for SO_PASSEC
+      util: add brute-force fallback for close_all_fds()
+      conf-parser: warn if an assignment is place outside of a section
+      mount: fix assertion
+      socket: if we fail to create an instantiated service for a socket,
+don't put the socket in failure mode
+      socket: make sure that the name for per-connection services are unique
+      machine-id: initialize from $container_uuid if not set otherwise
+      conf: when looking for configurations look in /etc first, in /run
+second
+      path-lookup: rearrange things so that the system path order
+follows the user path order
+      pkg-config: bring unit search path order in sync with the code
+      log: introduce log_metav
+      virt: the pidns controller does not exist anymore
+      nspawn: mount /etc/timezone into nspawn environment too
+      a couple of fixes to make llvm-analyze quiet
+      build-sys: don't build distcheck version with split /usr
+      build-sys: prepare release 44
+
+Michal Schmidt (1):
+      socket: fail the socket if the service keeps dying on start
+
+Shawn Landden (2):
+      login: tag the Mimo 720 ID_AUTOSEAT
+
+Thierry Reding (1):
+      configure.ac: fix typo in distro help string
+
+
+
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> ping?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120319121544.ennael.valstar.23280/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120319121544.ennael.valstar.23280/</A>
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/17 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Could somebody push ffmpeg 0.10.2 into core and tainted? It fixed a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lot of bugs and crashed in almost all the codecs, and a potential
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; security overflow in libswscale.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+Anne
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+<PRE>Sorry, I forgot to commit the local changes, please try again.
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+2012/3/19 Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/3/19 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ping?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120319121544.ennael.valstar.23280/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120319121544.ennael.valstar.23280/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/17 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Could somebody push ffmpeg 0.10.2 into core and tainted? It fixed a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; lot of bugs and crashed in almost all the codecs, and a potential
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; security overflow in libswscale.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+    <B>D.Morgan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like to push systemd 44.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are a number of important fixes regarding endian issues (important
+</I>&gt;<i> for our arm port) and some others relating to the management of the
+</I>&gt;<i> journal log and file sizes (related ot a problem we have in the current
+</I>&gt;<i> version which is already patched with one of the upstream fixes for an
+</I>&gt;<i> issue in this regard - tho' it's not the full story).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is the version that will be in Fedora 17 which is approximately in
+</I>&gt;<i> line with our schedule, we will be getting the benefit of their testing too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If this is just crazy talk, I will go through and cherry pick the
+</I>&gt;<i> important commits, but this will likely be &gt;60% of the real commits.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm obviously running it here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What say thee?
+</I>
+i would go for it but i would go to package systemd-ui too
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+installation de nginx-1.0.14-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm depuis 
+/var/cache/urpmi/rpms
+Pr&#233;paration ... 
+#############################################
+       1/1: nginx 
+#############################################
+Warning: Unit file of created job changed on disk, 'systemctl --system 
+daemon-reload' recommended.
+
+First question: should we not make rpm-helper automatically do it, if 
+not already done ?
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+Second question: could we ensure the message is not displayed if handled 
+automatically ?
+-- 
+BOFH excuse #393:
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Sorry, I forgot to commit the local changes, please try again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Submitted in core and  tainted
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/3/19 Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2012/3/19 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ping?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120319121544.ennael.valstar.23280/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120319121544.ennael.valstar.23280/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2012/3/17 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Could somebody push ffmpeg 0.10.2 into core and tainted? It fixed a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; lot of bugs and crashed in almost all the codecs, and a potential
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; security overflow in libswscale.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+<PRE>19.03.2012 14:32, Guillaume Rousse kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> This happens whenever a package with systemd support is updated:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> installation de nginx-1.0.14-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm depuis /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
+</I>&gt;<i> Pr&#233;paration ... #############################################
+</I>&gt;<i>       1/1: nginx #############################################
+</I>&gt;<i> Warning: Unit file of created job changed on disk, 'systemctl --system
+</I>&gt;<i> daemon-reload' recommended.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> First question: should we not make rpm-helper automatically do it, if
+</I>&gt;<i> not already done ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Second question: could we ensure the message is not displayed if handled
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically ?
+</I>
+Looks it is handled (somewhat):
+&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at sigma</A> ~]$ cat /var/lib/rpm/filetriggers/systemd-daemon-reload.filter 
+</I>&gt;<i> ^./lib/systemd/system/
+</I>&gt;<i> ^./etc/systemd/system/
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at sigma</A> ~]$ cat /var/lib/rpm/filetriggers/systemd-daemon-reload.script 
+</I>&gt;<i> #!/bin/sh
+</I>&gt;<i> if /bin/mountpoint -q /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd; then
+</I>&gt;<i>   if [ -x /bin/systemctl ]; then
+</I>&gt;<i>   /bin/systemctl daemon-reload &gt;/dev/null 2&gt;&amp;1 || :
+</I>&gt;<i>   fi
+</I>&gt;<i> fi
+</I>
+However, maybe it is done too late? The Warning comes from %post, while
+filetriggers are run at %posttrans time.
+Maybe daemon-reload should be run in %_post_service instead?
+
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+<PRE>2012/3/19 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> ping?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Submitted
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/3/17 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; another ping?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2012/3/14 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ping?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2012/3/13 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Could somebody push kdevplatform4, kdevelop4, kdevelop4-php,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; kdevelop4-php-docs into cauldron. We are aiming at 4.3.0 final for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; mga2, and it got out now. You should push kdevplatform4 at first, wait
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; it finished, then push other packages.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Anssi Hannula at 19/03/12 12:36 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 19.03.2012 14:32, Guillaume Rousse kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This happens whenever a package with systemd support is updated:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installation de nginx-1.0.14-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm depuis /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Pr&#233;paration ... #############################################
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>       1/1: nginx #############################################
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Warning: Unit file of created job changed on disk, 'systemctl --system
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> daemon-reload' recommended.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> First question: should we not make rpm-helper automatically do it, if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not already done ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Second question: could we ensure the message is not displayed if handled
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> automatically ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Looks it is handled (somewhat):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at sigma</A> ~]$ cat /var/lib/rpm/filetriggers/systemd-daemon-reload.filter 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ^./lib/systemd/system/
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ^./etc/systemd/system/
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at sigma</A> ~]$ cat /var/lib/rpm/filetriggers/systemd-daemon-reload.script 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> #!/bin/sh
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if /bin/mountpoint -q /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd; then
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   if [ -x /bin/systemctl ]; then
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   /bin/systemctl daemon-reload &gt;/dev/null 2&gt;&amp;1 || :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   fi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fi
+</I>
+Yup, the filetrigger handles this generically.
+
+&gt;<i> However, maybe it is done too late? The Warning comes from %post, while
+</I>&gt;<i> filetriggers are run at %posttrans time.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe daemon-reload should be run in %_post_service instead?
+</I>
+I thought I had put it in %_post_service... hmmmm.
+
+I guess it should go before this line:
+        /bin/systemctl --quiet try-restart $units
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+The file trigger is to catch when a unit changes. That may or may not
+cover services specifically (could be socket or mount units etc.) thus
+%_post_service may or may not be called. So I think the file-trigger is
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+As for silencing the message I agree. Not quite sure how that message is
+generated however....
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Anne nicolas at 19/03/12 12:38 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/3/19 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>     ping?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Submitted 
+</I>
+Yay, I've been wanting to try this again for a while. Good excuse to do
+that. Thanks Funda and Anne.
+
+Col
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>19.03.2012 14:49, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Anssi Hannula at 19/03/12 12:36 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 19.03.2012 14:32, Guillaume Rousse kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This happens whenever a package with systemd support is updated:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installation de nginx-1.0.14-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm depuis /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Pr&#233;paration ... #############################################
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>       1/1: nginx #############################################
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Warning: Unit file of created job changed on disk, 'systemctl --system
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> daemon-reload' recommended.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> First question: should we not make rpm-helper automatically do it, if
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> not already done ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Second question: could we ensure the message is not displayed if handled
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> automatically ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Looks it is handled (somewhat):
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at sigma</A> ~]$ cat /var/lib/rpm/filetriggers/systemd-daemon-reload.filter 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ^./lib/systemd/system/
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ^./etc/systemd/system/
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at sigma</A> ~]$ cat /var/lib/rpm/filetriggers/systemd-daemon-reload.script 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> #!/bin/sh
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> if /bin/mountpoint -q /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd; then
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>   if [ -x /bin/systemctl ]; then
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>   /bin/systemctl daemon-reload &gt;/dev/null 2&gt;&amp;1 || :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>   fi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> fi
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Yup, the filetrigger handles this generically.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> However, maybe it is done too late? The Warning comes from %post, while
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> filetriggers are run at %posttrans time.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe daemon-reload should be run in %_post_service instead?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I thought I had put it in %_post_service... hmmmm.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess it should go before this line:
+</I>&gt;<i>         /bin/systemctl --quiet try-restart $units
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The file trigger is to catch when a unit changes. That may or may not
+</I>&gt;<i> cover services specifically (could be socket or mount units etc.) thus
+</I>&gt;<i> %_post_service may or may not be called. So I think the file-trigger is
+</I>&gt;<i> still valid.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> As for silencing the message I agree. Not quite sure how that message is
+</I>&gt;<i> generated however....
+</I>
+Well, no need to silence the message if you fix the issue that causes it
+to appear in the first place :)
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+<PRE>19.03.2012 14:49, Colin Guthrie kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Anssi Hannula at 19/03/12 12:36 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 19.03.2012 14:32, Guillaume Rousse kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This happens whenever a package with systemd support is updated:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installation de nginx-1.0.14-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm depuis /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Pr&#233;paration ... #############################################
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>       1/1: nginx #############################################
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Warning: Unit file of created job changed on disk, 'systemctl --system
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> daemon-reload' recommended.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> First question: should we not make rpm-helper automatically do it, if
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> not already done ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Second question: could we ensure the message is not displayed if handled
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> automatically ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Looks it is handled (somewhat):
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at sigma</A> ~]$ cat /var/lib/rpm/filetriggers/systemd-daemon-reload.filter 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ^./lib/systemd/system/
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ^./etc/systemd/system/
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at sigma</A> ~]$ cat /var/lib/rpm/filetriggers/systemd-daemon-reload.script 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> #!/bin/sh
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> if /bin/mountpoint -q /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd; then
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>   if [ -x /bin/systemctl ]; then
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>   /bin/systemctl daemon-reload &gt;/dev/null 2&gt;&amp;1 || :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>   fi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> fi
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Yup, the filetrigger handles this generically.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> However, maybe it is done too late? The Warning comes from %post, while
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> filetriggers are run at %posttrans time.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe daemon-reload should be run in %_post_service instead?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I thought I had put it in %_post_service... hmmmm.
+</I>
+It is there, but it seems to be only on the SysV-&gt;systemd migration
+codepath.
+
+&gt;<i> I guess it should go before this line:
+</I>&gt;<i>         /bin/systemctl --quiet try-restart $units
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+I'd say so.
+
+&gt;<i> The file trigger is to catch when a unit changes. That may or may not
+</I>&gt;<i> cover services specifically (could be socket or mount units etc.) thus
+</I>&gt;<i> %_post_service may or may not be called. So I think the file-trigger is
+</I>&gt;<i> still valid.
+</I>
+OK.
+
+-- 
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+    <B>Claire Robinson</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Em 19-03-2012 11:06, Claire Robinson escreveu:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Some info on arch wiki, does this help?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Broadcom_wireless#Determine_which_driver_you_need.2Fcan_use">https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Broadcom_wireless#Determine_which_driver_you_need.2Fcan_use</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks, but no : this is howto load manually the modules, what I seek
+</I>&gt;<i> for is what file associates the PCI IDs to a driver maybe in
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/modprobe.conf :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> alias wlan0 b43
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> as example
+</I>
+Ahh, sorry, I misunderstood :)
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+error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv-&gt;failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run
+database recovery
+error: cannot open Packages index using db4 -  (-30974)
+error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+unable to open rpmdb
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+I tried doing rpm --rebuilddb but that also gave the error.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 18 March 2011 22:33,  &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Revision 692 Author rtp Date 2011-03-18 22:33:11 +0100 (Fri, 18 Mar 2011)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - import stage1/drakxtools mips support
+</I>
+(...)
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+&gt;<i> Modified: drakx/trunk/perl-install/pkgs.pm
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- drakx/trunk/perl-install/pkgs.pm	2011-03-18 21:28:23 UTC (rev 691)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ drakx/trunk/perl-install/pkgs.pm	2011-03-18 21:33:11 UTC (rev 692)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i>  	my ($t, $flag, @l2);
+</I>&gt;<i>  	while ($data =~
+</I>&gt;<i>  	       /^((
+</I>&gt;<i> -                   [1-5]
+</I>&gt;<i> +                   [1-6]
+</I>&gt;<i>                     |
+</I>&gt;<i>                     (?:            (?: !\s*)? [0-9A-Z_]+(?:&quot;.*?&quot;)?)
+</I>&gt;<i>                     (?: \s*\|\|\s* (?: !\s*)? [0-9A-Z_]+(?:&quot;.*?&quot;)?)*
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Why?
+We don't use such a level.
+Shouldn't you run svn diff before commiting?
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+    <B>Arnaud Patard (Rtp)</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 18 March 2011 22:33,  &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Revision 692 Author rtp Date 2011-03-18 22:33:11 +0100 (Fri, 18 Mar 2011)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - import stage1/drakxtools mips support
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Modified: drakx/trunk/perl-install/pkgs.pm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --- drakx/trunk/perl-install/pkgs.pm	2011-03-18 21:28:23 UTC (rev 691)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +++ drakx/trunk/perl-install/pkgs.pm	2011-03-18 21:33:11 UTC (rev 692)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> @@ -36,7 +36,7 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  	my ($t, $flag, @l2);
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  	while ($data =~
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  	       /^((
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -                   [1-5]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +                   [1-6]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>                     |
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>                     (?:            (?: !\s*)? [0-9A-Z_]+(?:&quot;.*?&quot;)?)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>                     (?: \s*\|\|\s* (?: !\s*)? [0-9A-Z_]+(?:&quot;.*?&quot;)?)*
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why?
+</I>&gt;<i> We don't use such a level.
+</I>
+It was used on mips at mdv due to some incompatible xorg. On some
+loongson 2e systems, we had to use a patched server and using this
+patch on other systems would break them. Don't ask details, all I
+can say it that adding a hack to xorg was the only way to get it to
+work. I'm not sure that this hack would still work nowadays,
+unfortunately.
+
+So, when we got this annoying trouble, in order to be able to tell which
+xorg rpms to choose during installation, we got the advice to add a new
+level and add :
+
+CAT_X
+  6 TYPE&quot;mips_lemote&quot; x11-server-lm2e x11-server-lm2e-common
+  6 TYPE&quot;mips_ict&quot; x11-server x11-server-common
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+to the rpmsrate.
+
+Arnaud
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and D.Morgan at 19/03/12 12:30 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would like to push systemd 44.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There are a number of important fixes regarding endian issues (important
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for our arm port) and some others relating to the management of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> journal log and file sizes (related ot a problem we have in the current
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> version which is already patched with one of the upstream fixes for an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> issue in this regard - tho' it's not the full story).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is the version that will be in Fedora 17 which is approximately in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> line with our schedule, we will be getting the benefit of their testing too.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If this is just crazy talk, I will go through and cherry pick the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> important commits, but this will likely be &gt;60% of the real commits.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm obviously running it here.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What say thee?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> i would go for it but i would go to package systemd-ui too
+</I>
+OK, committed and ready for submission. I will not be about tomorrow,
+but if we decide to go with v43, I will revert and get the
+cherry-picking machine out :)
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Remco Rijnders</B> 
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+<PRE>On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:48:04AM -0400, Scott wrote in 
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">4F674724.3080502 at osguru.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>I just tried updating to the latest cauldron and it installed two rpm related
+</I>&gt;<i>packages (which I don't remember the names of), and now I get this when running rpm:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>error: rpmdb: Thread/process 20439/140208847664896 failed: Thread died in
+</I>&gt;<i>Berkeley DB library
+</I>&gt;<i>error: db4 error(-30974) from dbenv-&gt;failchk: DB_RUNRECOVERY: Fatal error, run
+</I>&gt;<i>database recovery
+</I>&gt;<i>error: cannot open Packages index using db4 -  (-30974)
+</I>&gt;<i>error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm
+</I>&gt;<i>unable to open rpmdb
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>I tried doing rpm --rebuilddb but that also gave the error.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>It's been a while since I had rpm db issues so I can't remember how to fix it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Any ideas?
+</I>
+Yup... check bugzilla to see if others have similar problems :-)
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+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4918</A>
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 19 March 2012 17:27, Arnaud Patard &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">arnaud.patard at rtp-net.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Why?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We don't use such a level.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It was used on mips at mdv due to some incompatible xorg. On some
+</I>&gt;<i> loongson 2e systems, we had to use a patched server and using this
+</I>&gt;<i> patch on other systems would break them. Don't ask details, all I
+</I>&gt;<i> can say it that adding a hack to xorg was the only way to get it to
+</I>&gt;<i> work. I'm not sure that this hack would still work nowadays,
+</I>&gt;<i> unfortunately.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, when we got this annoying trouble, in order to be able to tell which
+</I>&gt;<i> xorg rpms to choose during installation, we got the advice to add a new
+</I>&gt;<i> level and add :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> CAT_X
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;6 TYPE&quot;mips_lemote&quot; x11-server-lm2e x11-server-lm2e-common
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;6 TYPE&quot;mips_ict&quot; x11-server x11-server-common
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> to the rpmsrate.
+</I>
+please revert it since it's not used and since the proper fix would be to
+alter task-x11 which is where we pull x11-server
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+    <B>Hugo Pereira Da Costa</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Package%20push%20request%3A%20oxygen-gtk%20and%20oxygen-gtk3&In-Reply-To=%3C4F6760D2.8050705%40oxygen-icons.org%3E"
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+<PRE>&gt;<i>/  As oxygen is our default theme for gtk2 and gtk3, I think we should
+</I>/&gt;/  mark these two packages as important packages, and push updated
+/&gt;/  version as soon as possible. Plus, the new versions fixed a nasty bug
+/&gt;/  that it will crash theme selector when changing from oxygen to another
+/&gt;/  theme. See:<A HREF="https://projects.kde.org/news/127">https://projects.kde.org/news/127</A>
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+oxygen-gtk2-1.2.2 is quite a disasters in terms of regressions, introduced by the attempt to fix all crashes with mga-applet, etc.
+New crashes have been added, notably with mcc, during installation of rpms. So quite bad.
+In fact, most of it have been fixed in oxygen-gtk2 master already.
+And will be added to the oxygen-gtk2-1.2.3 release.
+This one is scheduled for April 15 or so, which might be late.
+I can make an &quot;in-between&quot; release for mageia if needed.
+Otherwise I'd recommand to stick to 1.2.1, since there are more things (newly) broken than fixed, with 1.2.2
+Sorry for the inconvenience :(
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+&gt;<i> On 19 March 2012 20:03, tmb&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tmb&lt;tmb&gt;  0.12.1-5.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 224461
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - rebuild with new kmod
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+</I>&gt;<i> it's now that you've to rebuild stage1...
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+Yeah, I realized that I forgot this package when I submitted it the 
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+&gt;<i> You didn't describe your changes in NEWS :-)
+</I>Done.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+Please let it urpmi:
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+- bash completion:
+  o bump available packages list speed (mga#373)
+  o fix installed packages completion (mga#4937)
+- urpmi:
+  o fix column headers alignment to the columns values in package list
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Actually,
+</I>&gt;<i> oxygen-gtk2-1.2.2 is quite a disasters in terms of regressions, introduced
+</I>&gt;<i> by the attempt to fix all crashes with mga-applet, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> New crashes have been added, notably with mcc, during installation of rpms.
+</I>&gt;<i> So quite bad.
+</I>&gt;<i> In fact, most of it have been fixed in oxygen-gtk2 master already.
+</I>&gt;<i> And will be added to the oxygen-gtk2-1.2.3 release.
+</I>&gt;<i> This one is scheduled for April 15 or so, which might be late.
+</I>&gt;<i> I can make an &quot;in-between&quot; release for mageia if needed.
+</I>&gt;<i> Otherwise I'd recommand to stick to 1.2.1, since there are more things
+</I>&gt;<i> (newly) broken than fixed, with 1.2.2
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry for the inconvenience :(
+</I>
+I think it's better to do a 1.2.2.1 maintenance release with the latest fixes
+see you
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<A HREF="http://cgit.freedesktop.org/udisks/commit/?id=3b277903af128fb632897d8932fe300f216ead38">http://cgit.freedesktop.org/udisks/commit/?id=3b277903af128fb632897d8932fe300f216ead38</A>
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+Misc small fixes also included. This is really a part of the
+infrastructure needed by GNOME3, so I presume it's covered by the same
+version freeze escaping policy, but if not, please shout and I'll revert
+and cherry-pick patches instead.
+
+Col
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+If needed I can do the complicated job of cherry picking most of the
+patches instead if the version bump scares people :)
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+Col
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+    <B>Dan Fandrich</B> 
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+<PRE>On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:17:46PM +0100, zezinho wrote:
+&gt;<i> Thanks, but no : this is howto load manually the modules, what I seek
+</I>&gt;<i> for is what file associates the PCI IDs to a driver maybe in
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/modprobe.conf :
+</I>
+Are you looking for /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.pcimap ?
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Fwd: gdm pam changes">ennael at mageia.org
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+&gt;<i> Blocker for Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Can you handle this ?
+
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+&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Olav
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ---------- Message transf&#233;r&#233; ----------
+</I>&gt;<i> From: Ray Strode &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">halfline at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">distributor-list at gnome.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cc:
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Mon, 19 Mar 2012 17:21:44 -0400
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: gdm pam changes
+</I>&gt;<i> Hey guys,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> GDM no longer hardcodes consolekit registration logic in it anymore.
+</I>&gt;<i> For distributions that use consolekit, it now depends on
+</I>&gt;<i> pam_ck_connector for that registration in just the same way
+</I>&gt;<i> distributions that use pam_systemd do for systemd integration.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The fix is fairly straight forward, in each of gdm's pam files (or
+</I>&gt;<i> files included by gdm's pam files, such as system-auth), put
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -session optional pam_ck_connector.so
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This can go in the same place as the systemd line for distros trying
+</I>&gt;<i> to support both at the same time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --Ray
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> distributor-list mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">distributor-list at gnome.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/distributor-list">http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/distributor-list</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Anne
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Anne nicolas at 19/03/12 21:49 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/3/19 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>     Blocker for Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you handle this ?
+</I>
+This shouldn't be a major issue.
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+Should just be a matter of moving from login to system-auth.
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+That said, I'm not sure what it'll do to lxdm/kdm etc. If it causes fall
+out there, then we can just include it in gdm's pam files.
+
+Either way shouldn't be too bad.
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Banshee%202.4.0%20security%20push&In-Reply-To=%3C20120319221303.GA15266%40bkor.dhs.org%3E"
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+    <I>Mon Mar 19 23:13:03 CET 2012</I>
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+Banshee 2.4.0 contains a security fix. I tried to include just the
+patch, but failed to build it and in the meantime 2.4.0 was released.
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+Previous version (2.3.6) is a development version anyway.
+
+I filed:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5025">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5025</A> for Mageia 1. I left that
+up to the maintainer to fix.
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+Upstream bug:
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671536">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=671536</A>
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/2/22 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 01:13:44PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; To recap, I need to put the following files in some package:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - /usr/share/gnome-background-properties/mageia.xml
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;   =&gt; mageia-theme-Default ? who owns the directory then?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Planning to ignore the directory ownership.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/g/media/logo/mageia-2011.svg">http://www.mageia.org/g/media/logo/mageia-2011.svg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;   =&gt; mageia-theme-Default or desktop-common-data ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Planning to put that in mageia-theme-Default.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/mageia-theme-Default.override
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;   =&gt; mageia-theme-Default and depend on glib2.0-common?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Planning to make mageia-theme-Default depend on glib2.0-common.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - (and patch gnome-control-center)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;   =&gt; not sure if I can :P
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My C is limited to copy/paste skills, so this might take a while.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As I received no response, I assume proceeding is fine?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Olav
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+GNOME users and/or packagers could you please give some inputs here ?
+Deadline is now approaching and we need to test.
+
+-- 
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+    <B>Barry Jackson</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20urpmi%20problem%20in%20iurt%20in%20cauldron%20host%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4F67C981.3010401%40zen.co.uk%3E"
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+<PRE>Running iurt in Cauldron for all builds 1/cauldron now fail.
+Using the same $HOME and configuration everything is working fine using 
+an mga1 host.
+
+Initialize log attached with error from cauldron host 3.3k
+Initialize log attached without error from mga1 host 42.6k
+
+Initially it was only builds using cauldron repos that were affected, 
+but after updating my cauldron installation this evening (after syncing 
+my local repo) the problem now affects both 1 and cauldron.
+
+.iurt/config :-
+{
+  supported_arch =&gt; [ 'i586', 'x86_64' ],
+  all_media =&gt; { 'core' =&gt; [ 'release' ], 'nonfree' =&gt; [ 'release' ], 
+'tainted' =&gt; [ 'release' ] },
+  base_media =&gt; [ 'core/release' ],
+  local_home =&gt; &quot;/home/baz/build&quot;,
+  home =&gt; &quot;/home/baz/iurt&quot;,
+  upload =&gt; &quot;/home/baz&quot;,
+  local_upload =&gt; &quot;/home/baz&quot;,
+  repository =&gt; '/repo/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib',
+  admin =&gt; '<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">baz at mageia.org</A>',
+  sendmail =&gt; 0,
+  packager =&gt; 'Iurt the rebuild bot &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">baz at mageia.org</A>&gt;',
+}
+
+
+
+-------------- next part --------------
+D: [iurt_root_command] urpmi
+adding medium &quot;Core Release (Virtual1)&quot;
+adding medium &quot;Core Release Debug (Virtual2)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core Updates (Virtual3)&quot;
+adding medium &quot;Core Updates Debug (Virtual4)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core Updates Testing (Virtual5)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core Updates Testing Debug (Virtual6)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core Backports (Virtual7)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core Backports Debug (Virtual8)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core Backports Testing (Virtual9)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core Backports Testing Debug (Virtual10)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Release (Virtual11)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Release Debug (Virtual12)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Updates (Virtual13)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Updates Debug (Virtual14)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Updates Testing (Virtual15)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Updates Testing Debug (Virtual16)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Backports (Virtual17)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Backports Debug (Virtual18)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Backports Testing (Virtual19)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Backports Testing Debug (Virtual20)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Release (Virtual21)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Release Debug (Virtual22)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Updates (Virtual23)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Updates Debug (Virtual24)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Updates Testing (Virtual25)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Updates Testing Debug (Virtual26)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Backports (Virtual27)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Backports Debug (Virtual28)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Backports Testing (Virtual29)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Backports Testing Debug (Virtual30)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Release (Virtual31)&quot;
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Release Debug (Virtual32)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Updates (Virtual33)&quot;
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Updates Debug (Virtual34)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Updates Testing (Virtual35)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Updates Testing Debug (Virtual36)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Backports (Virtual37)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Backports Debug (Virtual38)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Backports Testing (Virtual39)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Backports Testing Debug (Virtual40)&quot; (ignored by default)
+examining synthesis file [/repo/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/media_info/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
+examining synthesis file [/repo/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/updates/media_info/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
+examining synthesis file [/repo/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/media_info/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
+examining synthesis file [/repo/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/updates/media_info/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
+No package named meta-task
+I: [iurt_root_command] ERROR: urpmi
+-------------- next part --------------
+D: [iurt_root_command] urpmi
+adding medium &quot;Core Release (Virtual1)&quot;
+adding medium &quot;Core Release Debug (Virtual2)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core Updates (Virtual3)&quot;
+adding medium &quot;Core Updates Debug (Virtual4)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core Updates Testing (Virtual5)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core Updates Testing Debug (Virtual6)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core Backports (Virtual7)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core Backports Debug (Virtual8)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core Backports Testing (Virtual9)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core Backports Testing Debug (Virtual10)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Release (Virtual11)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Release Debug (Virtual12)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Updates (Virtual13)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Updates Debug (Virtual14)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Updates Testing (Virtual15)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Updates Testing Debug (Virtual16)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Backports (Virtual17)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Backports Debug (Virtual18)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Backports Testing (Virtual19)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Nonfree Backports Testing Debug (Virtual20)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Release (Virtual21)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Release Debug (Virtual22)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Updates (Virtual23)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Updates Debug (Virtual24)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Updates Testing (Virtual25)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Updates Testing Debug (Virtual26)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Backports (Virtual27)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Backports Debug (Virtual28)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Backports Testing (Virtual29)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Tainted Backports Testing Debug (Virtual30)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Release (Virtual31)&quot;
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Release Debug (Virtual32)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Updates (Virtual33)&quot;
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Updates Debug (Virtual34)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Updates Testing (Virtual35)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Updates Testing Debug (Virtual36)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Backports (Virtual37)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Backports Debug (Virtual38)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Backports Testing (Virtual39)&quot; (ignored by default)
+adding medium &quot;Core 32bit Backports Testing Debug (Virtual40)&quot; (ignored by default)
+examining synthesis file [/repo/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/media_info/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
+examining synthesis file [/repo/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/updates/media_info/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
+examining synthesis file [/repo/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/media_info/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
+examining synthesis file [/repo/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/updates/media_info/synthesis.hdlist.cz]
+found package(s): rpm-build-4.9.1.2-22.mga2.x86_64 curl-7.24.0-1.mga2.x86_64 urpmi-6.46-1.mga2.noarch urpmi-6.46-1.mga2.noarch sudo-1.8.3p2-1.mga2.x86_64 basesystem-minimal-2-6.mga2.x86_64
+preferring vim-minimal over vim-enhanced,vim-X11
+can not migrate rpm db from Hash version 9 to Hash version 8 without db_dump
+
+
+installing glibc-2.14.1-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm perl-5.14.2-6.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64zlib1-1.2.6-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm perl-base-5.14.2-6.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64gdbm4-1.10-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm dash-static-0.5.7-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64crack2-2.8.18-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64db4.8-4.8.30-8.mga2.x86_64.rpm from /repo/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release
+starting installing packages
+created transaction for installing on /home/baz/build/chroot_cauldron.x86_64.tmp.pyLzjJ (remove=0, install=0, upgrade=8)
+Preparing...                     #############################################
+warning: dash-static-0.5.7-1.mga2.x86_64: Header V3 RSA/SHA1 Signature, key ID 80420f66: NOKEY
+    1/254: dash-static           #############################################
+    2/254: glibc                 #############################################
+    3/254: lib64zlib1            #############################################
+    4/254: lib64gdbm4            #############################################
+    5/254: lib64db4.8            #############################################
+    6/254: perl-base             #############################################
+    7/254: perl                  #############################################
+    8/254: lib64crack2           #############################################
+
+
+installing vim-minimal-7.3.444-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm bash-4.2-5.mga1.x86_64.rpm lib64audit1-2.1.3-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm perl-Time-ZoneInfo-0.300.0-2.mga1.noarch.rpm run-parts-4.2-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64termcap2-2.0.8-50.mga1.x86_64.rpm update-alternatives-1.9.0-7.mga1.noarch.rpm lib64sasl2-2.1.23-15.mga2.x86_64.rpm from /repo/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release
+starting installing packages
+created transaction for installing on /home/baz/build/chroot_cauldron.x86_64.tmp.pyLzjJ (remove=0, install=0, upgrade=8)
+Preparing...                     #############################################
+    9/254: lib64termcap2         #############################################
+   10/254: bash                  #############################################
+   11/254: update-alternatives   #############################################
+   12/254: vim-minimal           #############################################
+   13/254: lib64sasl2            #############################################
+   14/254: run-parts             #############################################
+   15/254: perl-Time-ZoneInfo    #############################################
+   16/254: lib64audit1           #############################################
+
+
+installing lib64cap2-2.22-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64attr1-2.4.46-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64dbnss4.8-4.8.30-8.mga2.x86_64.rpm libgcc1-4.6.3-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm cracklib-dicts-2.8.18-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64gmp10-5.0.4-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64acl1-2.2.51-3.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64pam0-1.1.5-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm from /repo/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release
+starting installing packages
+created transaction for installing on /home/baz/build/chroot_cauldron.x86_64.tmp.pyLzjJ (remove=0, install=0, upgrade=8)
+Preparing...                     #############################################
+   17/254: lib64dbnss4.8         #############################################
+   18/254: lib64attr1            #############################################
+   19/254: lib64acl1             #############################################
+   20/254: lib64pam0             #############################################
+   21/254: lib64gmp10            #############################################
+   22/254: cracklib-dicts        #############################################
+   23/254: libgcc1               #############################################
+   24/254: lib64cap2             #############################################
+
+
+installing chkconfig-1.3.51-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm grep-2.11-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64popt0-1.16-1.mga1.x86_64.rpm libstdc++6-4.6.3-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64expat1-2.0.1-14.mga1.x86_64.rpm lib64pcre0-8.21-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64systemd-id1280-43-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm popt-data-1.16-1.mga1.x86_64.rpm from /repo/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release
+starting installing packages
+created transaction for installing on /home/baz/build/chroot_cauldron.x86_64.tmp.pyLzjJ (remove=0, install=0, upgrade=8)
+Preparing...                     #############################################
+   25/254: popt-data             #############################################
+   26/254: lib64popt0            #############################################
+   27/254: libstdc++6            #############################################
+   28/254: lib64pcre0            #############################################
+   29/254: grep                  #############################################
+   30/254: chkconfig             #############################################
+   31/254: lib64systemd-id1280   #############################################
+   32/254: lib64expat1           #############################################
+
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+installing sed-4.2.1-4.mga1.x86_64.rpm lib64sigsegv2-2.10-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm info-install-4.13a-3.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64systemd-journal0-43-5.mga2.x86_64.rpm xz-5.0.3-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64lzma5-5.0.3-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm diffutils-3.2-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm nss-myhostname-0.3-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm from /repo/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release
+starting installing packages
+created transaction for installing on /home/baz/build/chroot_cauldron.x86_64.tmp.pyLzjJ (remove=0, install=0, upgrade=8)
+Preparing...                     #############################################
+   33/254: lib64lzma5            #############################################
+   34/254: xz                    #############################################
+   35/254: info-install          #############################################
+   36/254: sed                   #############################################
+   37/254: lib64sigsegv2         #############################################
+   38/254: diffutils             #############################################
+   39/254: nss-myhostname        #############################################
+   40/254: lib64systemd-journal0 #############################################
+
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+installing file-5.11-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64ncurses5-5.9-3.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64uuid1-2.21-3.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64blkid1-2.21-3.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64magic1-5.11-2.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64ncursesw5-5.9-3.mga2.x86_64.rpm ncurses-5.9-3.mga2.x86_64.rpm acl-2.2.51-3.mga2.x86_64.rpm from /repo/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release
+starting installing packages
+created transaction for installing on /home/baz/build/chroot_cauldron.x86_64.tmp.pyLzjJ (remove=0, install=0, upgrade=8)
+Preparing...                     #############################################
+   41/254: ncurses               #############################################
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+   45/254: lib64blkid1           #############################################
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+   47/254: lib64ncursesw5        #############################################
+   48/254: acl                   #############################################
+
+
+installing lib64glib2.0_0-2.31.20-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64kmod2-7-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64mount1-2.21-3.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64ffi5-3.0.10-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm gawk-4.0.0-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64lockdev1-1.0.4-0.120111007git.2.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64udev0-181-3.mga2.x86_64.rpm lib64devmapper1.02-1.02.74-1.mga2.x86_64.rpm from /repo/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release
+starting installing packages
+created transaction for installing on /home/baz/build/chroot_cauldron.x86_64.tmp.pyLzjJ (remove=0, install=0, upgrade=8)
+Preparing...                     #############################################
+   49/254: lib64udev0            #############################################
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+   56/254: lib64kmod2            #############################################
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+More information on package less-445-1.mga2.x86_64
+This version of less includes lesspipe.sh from Wolfgang Friebel
+( <A HREF="http://www-zeuthen.desy.de/~friebel//unix/less/">http://www-zeuthen.desy.de/~friebel//unix/less/</A> ).
+
+This enables you to view gz, bz2, lzma, zip, rpm and html files
+among others with less. It works by setting the LESSOPEN 
+environment variable, see the man pages for details.
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+If you want to disable this behavior, either use 'unset LESSOPEN' or
+use an alias ( alias less='less -l' ).
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+less will open html files with lynx, then html2text, then cat if
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+starting installing packages
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+starting installing packages
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+starting installing packages
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+    <B>Funda Wang</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Freeze%20push%3A%20vlc-2.0.1&In-Reply-To=%3CCAOfq2QR8iCXYzqdsBagmFaQVq_NYusMC%2BFok7Av0w1LASUb9Mw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>Hello,
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+Could somebody push vlc 2.0.1 into cauldron core and tainted? It fixed
+two security problems, and some nasty bugs, comparing to 2.0.0 which
+we currently have.
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+Thanks.
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Freeze%20push%3A%20vlc-2.0.1&In-Reply-To=%3C4F682315.1020703%40mageia.org%3E"
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+<PRE>Funda Wang skrev 20.3.2012 07:14:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could somebody push vlc 2.0.1 into cauldron core and tainted? It fixed
+</I>&gt;<i> two security problems, and some nasty bugs, comparing to 2.0.0 which
+</I>&gt;<i> we currently have.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>
+Pushed.
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+Thomas
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20tainted/release%0A%09vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted&In-Reply-To=%3CCAONrEtYhEiVAd4j%3DPqYPN%2BLnWkHRYHNihChYccTQhZ3w1PGERQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+&gt;<i> fwang &lt;fwang&gt; 2.0.1-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 224549
+</I>&gt;<i> - new version 2.0.1
+</I>
+The following package has to be removed for others to be upgraded:
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+while being on the Chemnitz Linux days over the weekend, I was made 
+aware of xfce still using iaora as default window decoration and xfce 
+not using the Mageia wallpaper but it's own &quot;mouse thing&quot;.
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+Is there anyone out there, feeling at least partly responsible for xfce? 
+Then please fix that...
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+    <I>Tue Mar 20 09:13:35 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>I saw the additional &quot;cgroup&quot; stuff when I perform a mount command:
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+cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd type cgroup
+(rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,release_agent=/lib/systemd/systemd-cgroups-agent,name=systemd)
+cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset type cgroup
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+cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/cpu,cpuacct type cgroup
+(rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,cpuacct,cpu)
+cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/memory type cgroup
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+cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/devices type cgroup
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+cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/freezer type cgroup
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+cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/net_cls type cgroup
+(rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,net_cls)
+cgroup on /sys/fs/cgroup/blkio type cgroup
+(rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,blkio)
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+Tried to research it, but it look more like it is for servers than
+desktop.  Could someone explain what the value-add is of using this on
+the desktop?
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+Thanks in advance -
+R.Fox
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 20 March 2012 07:33, tmb&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fwang&lt;fwang&gt;  2.0.1-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 224549
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - new version 2.0.1
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+</I>&gt;<i> The following package has to be removed for others to be upgraded:
+</I>&gt;<i> mozilla-plugin-vlc-2.0.0-2.mga2.x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i>   (due to unsatisfied vlc == 2.0.0) (y/N)
+</I>
+Funda removed it here for some reason:
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+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/vlc/current/SPECS/vlc.spec?r1=221926&amp;r2=221935">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/vlc/current/SPECS/vlc.spec?r1=221926&amp;r2=221935</A>
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+Funda, comments ?
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+Thomas
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+    <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B> 
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+I have a queston about an issue that should be decided by the 'thinkin
+minds' in the distro, that probably have have wider sight than me...
+
+I have some boxes with ide disks, that long tine ago were driven by
+the libata subsystem, as the pure PATA susbsytem is being slowly
+deprecated. Perhaps the kernel driver loading priorities have changed,
+perhaps before IDE was not builtin into kernel.
+But now, to get my IDE drove again by libata, I have to blacklist
+generic-ide and company.
+So I had to put a file ide.conf into modules.d like:
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+blacklist ide-generic
+blacklist ide-pci-generic
+blacklist piix
+
+so ata_piix drives my ICH5 again.
+
+I think it is desirable, libata works much better than old IDE driver,
+all your drives are sdX, instead of mixing sdX for SATA and hdX for PATA,
+etc...
+
+Would it be desirable to have an ide-blacklist.conf file just to go
+migrating all working-ok-with-libata controllers to libata, and only
+leave pure PATA drivers for non supported oldies ?
+
+TIA
+
+-- 
+J.A. Magallon &lt;jamagallon()ono!com&gt;        \               Winter is coming...
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 20 March 2012 09:36, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> The following package has to be removed for others to be upgraded:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mozilla-plugin-vlc-2.0.0-2.mga2.x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;(due to unsatisfied vlc == 2.0.0) (y/N)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Funda removed it here for some reason:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/vlc/current/SPECS/vlc.spec?r1=221926&amp;r2=221935">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/vlc/current/SPECS/vlc.spec?r1=221926&amp;r2=221935</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Funda, comments ?
+</I>
+It should be either restored or obsoleted.
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+    <I>Tue Mar 20 10:05:16 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>lm_sensors 3.3.2 just came out last week with this in the ChangeLog [1]:
+&quot;Change sysfs detection to survive upcoming kernel changes&quot;
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+I'm not sure if that means kernel 3.3 or newer, but just a heads up (mainly to tmb) that we might 
+need this.
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+[1] - <A HREF="http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/tags/V3-3-2/CHANGES">http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/tags/V3-3-2/CHANGES</A>
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+<PRE>Minor foomatic-filters update (4.0.14) contains just one change, should be safe to go in:
+	* foomaticrip.c: If the input data is PDF but the driver requires
+	  PostScript, use the pdftops CUPS filter when CUPS is the spooler.
+	  This way we always use the same method to convert PDF to PostScript
+	  in the whole system, including any workarounds applied in the CUPS
+	  filter.
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+* fix regression on RPC-I drives handling.
+	If unsure, assume the drive is of RPC-I type
+	This can happen when patched drives do not answer to ioctl_ReportRPC correctly
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20printer-applet%20update%20for%20KDE%204.8.1&In-Reply-To=%3Cjk9joc%242jd%241%40dough.gmane.org%3E"
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+4.8.1 builds and then get it submitted (I can't at the moment).  It's in SVN.  Thanks.
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Packagers%20team%20elections&In-Reply-To=%3CCACYHsMy17qy75Q0G7uPVw-5pcyQcGRtnDE5ZLAKD8AY0Pzqsrg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Packagers team elections">ennael at mageia.org
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+    <I>Tue Mar 20 12:08:01 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Ping as a reminder !
+
+
+2012/3/15 Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As said during last council meeting, we need to renew packagers
+</I>&gt;<i> representatives and so organize election for coming year. After nearly 1
+</I>&gt;<i> year working with 2 representatives, I can say personnally that having 3
+</I>&gt;<i> people in charge would be great as todo list is quite huge.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So here is the planning for this election:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - apply on mageia-dev explaining why you would like to be elected, what
+</I>&gt;<i> are your motivations =&gt; until our next meeting, 21/03
+</I>&gt;<i> - launch vote using epoll from 22 to 25/03
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+-- 
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+    <B>Remco Rijnders</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:45:46PM +0100, Anne wrote in 
+&lt;CACYHsMxC75CAtb+GrRrgm-1gAvaS=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">gMeuj8oXwqWX9mCepGcLw at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>As said during last council meeting, we need to renew packagers
+</I>&gt;<i>representatives and so organize election for coming year. After nearly 1
+</I>&gt;<i>year working with 2 representatives, I can say personnally that having 3
+</I>&gt;<i>people in charge would be great as todo list is quite huge.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>So here is the planning for this election:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>- apply on mageia-dev explaining why you would like to be elected, what are
+</I>&gt;<i>your motivations =&gt; until our next meeting, 21/03
+</I>&gt;<i>- launch vote using epoll from 22 to 25/03
+</I>
+A few quick questions:
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+- Who is eligible to candidate themselves?
+- Who is eligible to vote?
+
+Thanks,
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Packagers team elections">ennael at mageia.org
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+    <I>Tue Mar 20 12:22:03 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>2012/3/20 Remco Rijnders &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">remco at webconquest.com</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 10:45:46PM +0100, Anne wrote in
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;CACYHsMxC75CAtb+GrRrgm-**1gAvaS=gMeuj8oXwqWX9mCepGcLw@**mail.gmail.com&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">gMeuj8oXwqWX9mCepGcLw at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>  Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As said during last council meeting, we need to renew packagers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> representatives and so organize election for coming year. After nearly 1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> year working with 2 representatives, I can say personnally that having 3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> people in charge would be great as todo list is quite huge.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So here is the planning for this election:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - apply on mageia-dev explaining why you would like to be elected, what
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> your motivations =&gt; until our next meeting, 21/03
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - launch vote using epoll from 22 to 25/03
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A few quick questions:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I would say the following
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - Who is eligible to candidate themselves?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+If we are logical enough, people who are now recognized by other packagers
+as they spent time on contributing in past year
+This is not a very formal criteria but just sensitive one :)
+
+
+&gt;<i> - Who is eligible to vote?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I would say people who do contribute on Mageia as packagers or apprentice
+so basically people having svn account which is quite easy to get through
+ldap directory
+
+Cheers
+
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Remmy
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+Anne
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+    <I>Tue Mar 20 12:29:06 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi there
+
+This mail to candidate again to packagers team organization, whatever the
+title is. I enjoyed working on it this past year and I guess we can be
+proud of what was accomplished during this year.
+
+What I can bring here:
+- rather a transversal view for packager team to improve work with all
+teams around and get efficient process (QA, triage, artwork, sysadmin),
+- help on organizing things (meetings, make people speak together to
+improve global way of working and increase new comers...),
+- manage release process (organize development steps, isos release, again
+transversal work)
+- improve my  frenglish :p (hum may take more time than expected)
+
+What I would like: have different profiles for representatives including
+one very technical one for highly technical discussions and decisions.
+
+Cheers
+
+-- 
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+    <B>Funda Wang</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20tainted/release%0A%09vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted&In-Reply-To=%3CCAOfq2QQHdC6SY%3D6auW1d94m-6SVavrMyfpy34wFnLreGd-svng%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>Well, it is already an empty package since 2.0.0. And I don't know why.
+&#22312; 2012-3-20 &#19979;&#21320;5:01&#65292;&quot;Thierry Vignaud&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;&#20889;&#36947;&#65306;
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+&gt;<i> On 20 March 2012 09:36, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; The following package has to be removed for others to be upgraded:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; mozilla-plugin-vlc-2.0.0-2.mga2.x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;  (due to unsatisfied vlc == 2.0.0) (y/N)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Funda removed it here for some reason:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/vlc/current/SPECS/vlc.spec?r1=221926&amp;r2=221935">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/vlc/current/SPECS/vlc.spec?r1=221926&amp;r2=221935</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Funda, comments ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It should be either restored or obsoleted.
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+    <B>simple w8</B> 
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+This is my first email for Mageia devel, and i take this to say that
+this distro is very nice, great work everyone.
+
+Now i ask if theres someone available that can review some packages i
+made from the Bumblebee project.
+
+I have asked in the irc channel and i was pointed by two nice persons
+to start a mentoring process, so that i can start maintaining packages
+i create, so i also if theres someone who can have some free time to
+mentor me.
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+kind regards everyone,
+P.
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%09task-obsolete-2-10.mga2&In-Reply-To=%3C4F68856A.9040507%40mageia.org%3E"
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+<PRE>fwang skrev 20.3.2012 14:51:
+&gt;<i> Name        : task-obsolete                Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version     : 2                                 Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release     : 10.mga2                       Build Date: Tue Mar 20 13:50:53 2012
+</I>
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> fwang&lt;fwang&gt;  2-10.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 225049
+</I>&gt;<i> - obsoletes mozilla-plugin-vlc
+</I>
+I think this is wrong place, and should be done in vlc instead to ease 
+upgrades...
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+&gt;&gt;<i> fwang&lt;fwang&gt; &#160;2-10.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 225049
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - obsoletes mozilla-plugin-vlc
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+</I>&gt;<i> I think this is wrong place, and should be done in vlc instead to ease
+</I>&gt;<i> upgrades...
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+On the other hand, replacing mozilla-vlc by vlc won't help the users...
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%09oxygen-gtk-1.2.1-3.mga2&In-Reply-To=%3CCAONrEtbqRERZRCnD%3DWnp%3D%2B%2BQaqocshWHW9zn8es3DLBeDgSxJQ%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+&gt;<i> dmorgan &lt;dmorgan&gt; 1.2.1-3.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 225059
+</I>&gt;<i> - Revert to version 1.2.1
+</I>
+Then disable installing it by default as it's too buggy.
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 20/03/2012 15:56, dmorgan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Name        : java-1.5.0-gcj               Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version     : 1.5.0.0                           Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release     : 17.1.24.mga2                  Build Date: Tue Mar 20 15:50:28 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed)               Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group       : Development/Java              Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size        : 141536                           License: GPL
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature   : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager    : dmorgan&lt;dmorgan&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL         : <A HREF="http://sources.redhat.com/rhug/java-gcj-compat.html">http://sources.redhat.com/rhug/java-gcj-compat.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary     : JPackage runtime scripts for GCJ
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> This package installs directory structures, shell scripts and symbolic
+</I>&gt;<i> links to simulate a JPackage-compatible runtime environment with GCJ.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> gil&lt;gil&gt;  1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 224405
+</I>&gt;<i> - build fix: rebuilt with/for gcc 4.6.3 support
+</I>Who needs this, especially among mageia target users ?
+
+-- 
+If you fail to follow the advice of more experienced modemers and use 
+the same password on every BBS you call, someone will steal your 
+password and make lewd comments about the sysop's mother on the boards 
+you WERE
+		-- Murphy's Laws of BBS'ing n&#176;6
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+<PRE>On 20.03.2012 16:09, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 20/03/2012 15:56, dmorgan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Name        : java-1.5.0-gcj               Relocations: (not 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Version     : 1.5.0.0                           Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Release     : 17.1.24.mga2                  Build Date: Tue Mar 20 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 15:50:28 2012
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed)               Build Host: 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ecosse.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Group       : Development/Java              Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Size        : 141536                           License: GPL
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Signature   : (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Packager    : dmorgan&lt;dmorgan&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> URL         : <A HREF="http://sources.redhat.com/rhug/java-gcj-compat.html">http://sources.redhat.com/rhug/java-gcj-compat.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Summary     : JPackage runtime scripts for GCJ
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This package installs directory structures, shell scripts and symbolic
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> links to simulate a JPackage-compatible runtime environment with GCJ.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gil&lt;gil&gt;  1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 224405
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - build fix: rebuilt with/for gcc 4.6.3 support
+</I>&gt;<i> Who needs this, especially among mageia target users ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>D. Morgan said:
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+i think you can remove gcj support [from Java packages -- K.R.] ( as fedora does )
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+    <B>D.Morgan</B> 
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 20/03/2012 15:56, dmorgan a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Name &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: java-1.5.0-gcj &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Version &#160; &#160; : 1.5.0.0 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Release &#160; &#160; : 17.1.24.mga2 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Build Date: Tue Mar 20
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 15:50:28 2012
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Group &#160; &#160; &#160; : Development/Java &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Size &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: 141536 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; License: GPL
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Signature &#160; : (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Packager &#160; &#160;: dmorgan&lt;dmorgan&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> URL &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; : <A HREF="http://sources.redhat.com/rhug/java-gcj-compat.html">http://sources.redhat.com/rhug/java-gcj-compat.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Summary &#160; &#160; : JPackage runtime scripts for GCJ
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This package installs directory structures, shell scripts and symbolic
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> links to simulate a JPackage-compatible runtime environment with GCJ.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gil&lt;gil&gt; &#160;1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 224405
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - build fix: rebuilt with/for gcc 4.6.3 support
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Who needs this, especially among mageia target users ?
+</I>
+we still have some java apps that need porting to java 6+ so as long
+as we have apps requiring java5 we will need this one.
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+I would like to have almost all apps building/working with java6 ( at
+least ) for mga3
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+&gt;<i> we still have some java apps that need porting to java 6+ so as long
+</I>&gt;<i> as we have apps requiring java5 we will need this one.
+</I>We do have applications that can only run using gcc java compatibility 
+mode :) ? Tell me more...
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+    <B>zezinho</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:17:46PM +0100, zezinho wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks, but no : this is howto load manually the modules, what I seek
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for is what file associates the PCI IDs to a driver maybe in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /etc/modprobe.conf :
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+</I>&gt;<i> Are you looking for /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.pcimap ?
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+</I>Still not, as I search where we ask for a proprietary driver 
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Em 19-03-2012 22:22, Dan Fandrich escreveu:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 12:17:46PM +0100, zezinho wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks, but no : this is howto load manually the modules, what I seek
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for is what file associates the PCI IDs to a driver maybe in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /etc/modprobe.conf :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Are you looking for /lib/modules/`uname -r`/modules.pcimap ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Still not, as I search where we ask for a proprietary driver 
+</I>&gt;<i> (dkms-broadcom-wl) for a PCI id.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+If you are thinking of what the installer reads to override mapping of
+specific driver to specific hw... then ldetect-lst is the package to
+check out...
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+<PRE>Le 17/03/2012 03:22, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hence I suggest a single user id to be used. (I'm fine with any other
+</I>&gt;<i> solution which works as well)
+</I>My main concern is the fuzziness of the current situation where we have
+- one virtual package 'webserver' corresponding to four implementations 
+(apache, lightpd, nginx, cherooke)
+- one common base (webserver-base) only used by the two first ones
+- all our web applications packages using 'apache' as mandatory dependency
+
+If the main concern is file ownership, I'd propose for the next release 
+to have each of these servers use a distinct uid, document root and 
+index page, but use a shared 'webserver' or 'www' gid, and ensure all of 
+those applications use group-based permission, instead of user-based. 
+I'd find this setup a bit clearer.
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+BOFH excuse #339:
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:27:49AM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+&gt;<i> I'll try and ensure that at least the SPEC files are already updated
+</I>&gt;<i> (via my that is triggered via ftp-release-list). However, I do expect
+</I>&gt;<i> various submission failures, etc.
+</I>
+Updated list of packages which are hosted on 'ftp.gnome.org':
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+Note:
+1. GDM requires a bit of work. Don't update atm.
+2. Not everything is part of GNOME Core/Apps.
+3. A few important ones are still missing (gnome-shell + mutter)
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+aisleriot                     3.3.2      3.3.1
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+at-spi2-core                  2.3.92     2.3.91
+atk1.0                        2.3.95     2.3.93
+banshee                       2.4.0      2.3.6
+baobab                        3.3.4      3.3.3
+brasero                       3.3.92     3.3.91
+cheese                        3.3.92     3.3.90
+clutter                       1.9.16     1.9.14
+cogl                          1.10.0     1.9.8
+dconf                         0.11.7     0.11.6
+empathy                       3.3.92     3.3.91
+eog                           3.3.92     3.3.91
+eog-plugins                   3.3.92     3.3.91
+evince                        3.3.92     3.3.90
+evolution                     3.3.92     3.3.91
+evolution-data-server         3.3.92     3.3.91
+evolution-exchange            3.3.92     3.3.91
+evolution-groupwise           3.3.92     3.3.91
+file-roller                   3.3.92     3.3.91
+gcr                           3.3.92     3.3.90
+gdk-pixbuf2.0                 2.26.0     2.25.2
+gdk-pixbuf2.0-lsb             2.26.0     2.25.2
+gdm                           3.3.92.1   3.2.1.1
+gedit                         3.3.8      3.3.7
+glib-networking               2.31.22    2.31.20
+glib2.0                       2.31.22    2.31.20
+glom                          1.21.7     1.21.6
+gmime                         2.6.7      2.6.6
+gnome-backgrounds             3.3.92     3.3.91
+gnome-boxes                   3.3.92     3.3.91
+gnome-color-manager           3.3.91     3.3.5
+gnome-control-center          3.3.92     3.3.91
+gnome-desktop3                3.3.92     3.3.91
+gnome-devel-docs              3.3.92     3.3.3
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+gnome-documents               0.3.92     0.3.91
+gnome-font-viewer             3.3.92     3.3.2.1
+gnome-games                   3.3.92     3.3.91.1
+gnome-icon-theme-symbolic     3.3.91.1   3.3.91
+gnome-keyring                 3.3.92     3.3.91
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+gnome-packagekit              3.3.92     3.3.5
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+gvfs                          1.11.5     1.11.4
+libgnome-keyring              3.3.92     3.3.91
+libgxps                       0.2.2      0.2.1
+libpeas                       1.3.0      1.2.0
+libsoup                       2.37.92    2.37.91
+modemmanager                  0.5.2.0    0.5.1.97
+mousetweaks                   3.3.92     3.3.91
+nautilus                      3.3.92     3.3.91
+networkmanager-applet         0.9.3.997  0.9.3.990
+networkmanager-pptp           0.9.3.995  0.9.0
+networkmanager-vpnc           0.9.3.995  0.9.0
+ocrfeeder                     0.7.8      0.7.7
+orca                          3.3.92     3.3.91
+pyatspi                       2.3.92     2.3.91
+python-gobject3               3.1.92     3.1.1
+rhythmbox                     2.96       2.95
+rygel                         0.13.4     0.13.3
+seahorse                      3.3.92     3.3.5
+seahorse-sharing              3.3.92     3.2.1
+simple-scan                   3.3.92     3.2.1
+sushi                         0.3.92     0.3.91
+tomboy                        1.9.10     1.9.9
+totem                         3.3.92     3.3.90
+totem-pl-parser               3.3.92     3.2.0
+vinagre                       3.3.92     3.3.4
+vino                          3.3.92     3.3.3
+vte3                          0.32.0     0.31.0
+yelp                          3.3.92     3.3.4
+yelp-tools                    3.3.4      3.3.3
+yelp-xsl                      3.3.92     3.3.3
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+    <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> 
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+<PRE>Very interesting message sent by Vincent Untz (SUSE) about the AppStream 
+project (remember, when misc, Nanar and myself went to Nuremberg on SUSE's 
+invitation to discuss cross-distro application installers?), its status and 
+things we could do in every distribution.
+
+I definitely hope we can do it for Mageia 3!
+
+The summarize:
+* produce the appdata.xml metadata files automatically and publish them on the 
+mirrors
+* extract icons from packages and put them in icons packages (one per media)
+* write data export script for distromatch
+* start playing with the forked Software Center with packagekit back-end
+* host a debshots instance for our screenshots / help developing it 
+(currently, Mageia App Db uses screenshots from screenshots.debian.net, but in 
+the long run maybe we want our own screenshots database for use in both madb 
+and the software center if we choose to use it)
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
+
+----------  Message transmis  ----------
+
+Sujet : Reviving AppStream and current status
+Date : mardi 20 mars 2012
+De : Vincent Untz &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">vuntz at gnome.org</A>&gt;
+&#192; : <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">distributions at lists.freedesktop.org</A>
+
+Hi all,
+
+A small group discussed AppStream last year, and the result was archived
+at <A HREF="http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream">http://distributions.freedesktop.org/wiki/AppStream</A>
+
+There was a nice timeline, but then everyone got busy :/ So it got stuck
+a bit (except for distromatch, thank to Enrico!)
+
+A few weeks ago, some of us took some time to get appstream back on
+track. There are still many things to do, but I guess it's a good time
+to talk about the current status since there's something starting to
+work.
+
+There is a &quot;How can I help?&quot; section at the end :-)
+
+
+Software Center with PackageKit support
+=======================================
+
+Last year, Alex Eftimie did a GSoC project to land a PackageKit backend
+in the software center. This was some good preliminary work, but still
+needed some love, especially in terms of performance.
+
+The code is now alive again, and lives in git at
+<A HREF="https://gitorious.org/appstream/software-center">https://gitorious.org/appstream/software-center</A>
+
+Unfortunately, because of the Harmony CLA required by Canonical, some of
+us can't contribute the changes back to the original software center
+project (for instance, I'm not fine with the CLA so won't sign it).
+Therefore this is becoming a fork; that being said, we're trying to stay
+in sync with the launchpad code, and Michal Hru&#353;eck&#253; is merging the code
+from launchpad trunk every now and then. The goal of the fork is not to
+substantially diverge, but simply to make the software center usable on
+all distros.
+
+It's reaching the point where it's usable, however there is still a road
+ahead before this becomes usable by everyone:
+
+ - some external tool needs to be used to fetched appdata.xml, and call
+   the update-software-center tool to generate the xapian database
+
+ - only the basic features have been tested; I'm not completely sure the
+   channel-related features work well, for instance; also package
+   updates haven't been tested
+
+ - several features (recommendations, reviews) need to be re-implemented
+   for distros (more on this below)
+
+ - the current code is pretty much synchronous, which is a bit ugly
+
+Of course, to play with the software center in an AppStream context, we
+need some application metadata (appdata.xml) :-)
+
+
+Application metadata
+====================
+
+openSUSE is now generating an appdata.xml file for its repo. You can
+find an example here:
+  <A HREF="http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/suse/setup/descr/appdata.xml.gz">http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/suse/setup/descr/appdata.xml.gz</A>
+
+It'd be great to have other distros generate this too so everyone can
+play with the PackageKit backend in the software center (although Debian
+and Ubuntu can still use the apt backend).
+
+That being said, in the short term, it can already be used on other
+distro, or even better, we can use distromatch to transform it to work
+for other distros.
+
+There's also a tarball with icons:
+  <A HREF="http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/suse/setup/descr/app-">http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss/suse/setup/descr/app-</A>
+icons.tar.gz
+It's not used by the software center yet; the way files are arranged
+inside this tarball is pretty much still to be defined.
+
+
+Features based on web services
+==============================
+
+Several features depend on external services: screenshots,
+recommendations, reviews, etc.
+
+For screenshots, the plan is to use debshots:
+  <A HREF="http://debshots.workaround.org/">http://debshots.workaround.org/</A>
+There's currently a 2.x version being written, that will have
+multi-distribution features, see
+  <A HREF="http://workaround.org/pipermail/debshots-devel/2012-March/000004.html">http://workaround.org/pipermail/debshots-devel/2012-March/000004.html</A>
+So this is looking good :-)
+
+For recommendations and reviews, well, I'm not aware of anyone working
+on this. So that's a hole we need to fill; it could possibly be a GSoC
+project.
+
+
+&quot;How can I help?&quot;
+=================
+
+We want this project to succeed and be usable by all distros, and to
+achieve this, we need your help! Without you, things won't move as fast
+as they should ;-)
+
+Here are the different areas where people can step up and rock the
+world:
+
+ - Get code to generate distromatch data for your distro
+   =&gt; This can be used to generate an appdata.xml file for all distro
+      supported in distromatch, based on an appdata.xml file from one
+      distro. And this will be usable in debshots and other services
+      later on.
+   =&gt; We already have code for Debian, Fedora, openSUSE and Ubuntu, but
+      we'd need more.
+   =&gt; An export script for your distro is writable in a few hours. See
+      as example the existing scripts:
+      <A HREF="https://gitorious.org/appstream/distromatch/trees/master/scripts">https://gitorious.org/appstream/distromatch/trees/master/scripts</A>
+   =&gt; For reference, here's a tarball containing Fedora and openSUSE
+      data (it will move to a proper home at some point):
+      <A HREF="http://tmp.vuntz.net/misc/distromatch/distromatch-opensuse-fedora.tar">http://tmp.vuntz.net/misc/distromatch/distromatch-opensuse-fedora.tar</A>
+
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+   =&gt; This is something that needs to be plugged in the build service of
+      each distro.
+   =&gt; The scripts we use to extract the data after the build of
+      packages in openSUSE can be found at:
+      <A HREF="https://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=brp-extract-">https://build.opensuse.org/package/files?package=brp-extract-</A>
+appdata&amp;project=openSUSE%3AFactory
+      It's unclear to me if this can be reused by other distros, though.
+
+ - Test the PackageKit-based software center on your distro (and hack on
+   it so that it's rock-solid!)
+   =&gt; Clone the code:
+      git clone <A HREF="git://gitorious.org/appstream/software-center.git">git://gitorious.org/appstream/software-center.git</A>
+   =&gt; You can start with a dummy appdata.xml file (see
+      <A HREF="https://gitorious.org/appstream/resources/blobs/master/appdata.xml">https://gitorious.org/appstream/resources/blobs/master/appdata.xml</A>
+      for an example).
+   =&gt; To use the code from the checkout:
+      # Generate xapian database from appdata.xml
+      ./utils/update-software-center --local --appstream-only
+      ./software-center
+   =&gt; You might need to create a backend for your distro; this is very
+      simple, see files in ./softwarecenter/distro/
+
+ - Help develop debshots 2.x
+   =&gt; Join <A HREF="http://workaround.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debshots-devel">http://workaround.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/debshots-devel</A>
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+ - Volunteer to work on the reviews and recommendations services
+   =&gt; The client code in the software center can be analyzed to show the
+      needs we have.
+   =&gt; This should be created with multi-distribution features in mind,
+      like debshots.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Vincent
+
+-- 
+Les gens heureux ne sont pas press&#233;s.
+_______________________________________________
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+Please let in rpmdrake:
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+- fix a rare crash when some packages are installed twice (mga#4972)
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+  o only display latest updates, not all of them (mga#2258, mga#4534)
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi
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+</I>&gt;<i> Please let in rpmdrake:
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+</I>&gt;<i> - fix a rare crash when some packages are installed twice (mga#4972)
+</I>&gt;<i> - rpmdrake:
+</I>&gt;<i>  o only display latest updates, not all of them (mga#2258, mga#4534)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See you
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+    <B>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz</B> 
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+I've update postfix in svn, from 2.8.8 to 2.9.1.  As I was told, I place here 2 reasons I believe it shall be pushed:
+- it supports memcached protocol, so faster postfix
+- it has a new tolerance for backend, for example, if mysql backend fails in 2.8 postfix will refuse all emails at instant of outstage, but in 2.9 it has tolerance so it will accept emails for a while, this will give tolerance if link to backent fails and returns.
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+Please, kindly, push it
+LD
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+Please let in drakx-installer stage2:
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+- it fixes a rare bug where one would do a disk install from a directory where
+  he downloaded a bugs ntfsundelete iso image too (mga#4919)
+- more important, it makes installer less scary by not displaying
+&quot;preparing bootloader&quot;,
+  letting some users to think we're overwritting their MBR whereas we just moved
+  configuring bootloader to the summary years ago (mga#484):
+  o step column: hide so called &quot;bootlader&quot; step since we do _not_
+     actually install bootloader at this stage but later in summary
+  o make &quot;Preparing bootloader&quot; less intimidating
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+    <B>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is my first email for Mageia devel, and i take this to say that
+</I>&gt;<i> this distro is very nice, great work everyone.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now i ask if theres someone available that can review some packages i
+</I>&gt;<i> made from the Bumblebee project.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have asked in the irc channel and i was pointed by two nice persons
+</I>&gt;<i> to start a mentoring process, so that i can start maintaining packages
+</I>&gt;<i> i create, so i also if theres someone who can have some free time to
+</I>&gt;<i> mentor me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> kind regards everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i> P.
+</I>
+Welcome Pedro!
+
+I see that you registered to the wiki webpage. You'll hopefully find a 
+mentor quite soon, although many people are busy these days by testing, 
+polishing Mageia 2.
+So, if you have a bit of time until a mentor volunteers, please test 
+Mageia 2 beta 2 and report any issue you see.
+
+Cheers,
+-- 
+Malo
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+    <B>simple w8</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20unable%20to%20mount%20encrypted%20partitions%20created%20with%0A%09drakdisk&In-Reply-To=%3CCAKVccoUQaKvudQnDTSgrTZDQ_vtDOGndAx6ZvUxhSHD1TuLoJA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with	drakdisk">simplew8 at gmail.com
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+    <I>Wed Mar 21 01:57:47 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi,
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+I use sometimes to boo Windows, and if i need some file i use to mount
+my /home encrypted partition using FreeOTFE (or TrueCrypt) to access
+the files i need, but i saw today that the /home partition that was
+created in mageia is not possible to mount with FreeOTFE or TrueCrypt.
+
+But the /home partition created with mandriva drakdisk can be mounted
+with those 2 applications, so seams that Mageia drakdisk isnt doing
+something right.
+
+I have already created a new partition with Mageia drakdisk just to be
+sure, and yes is not possible to mount in Windows, says to recheck the
+password os that is not a good encrypted partition, and the password
+is correct.
+
+Im used so far to access my encrypted partitions under Windows, but
+with Mageia that apepars not to be possible, could anyone check this
+and see if can be fixed?
+
+TIA,
+Pedro
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+    <B>David W. Hodgins</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20unable%20to%20mount%20encrypted%20partitions%20created%20with%0A%20drakdisk&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.wbhyq7ufn7mcit%40hodgins.homeip.net%3E"
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+<PRE>On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:57:47 -0400, simple w8 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">simplew8 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I use sometimes to boo Windows, and if i need some file i use to mount
+</I>&gt;<i> my /home encrypted partition using FreeOTFE (or TrueCrypt) to access
+</I>&gt;<i> the files i need, but i saw today that the /home partition that was
+</I>&gt;<i> created in mageia is not possible to mount with FreeOTFE or TrueCrypt.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But the /home partition created with mandriva drakdisk can be mounted
+</I>&gt;<i> with those 2 applications, so seams that Mageia drakdisk isnt doing
+</I>&gt;<i> something right.
+</I>
+That's likely a result of
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3092">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3092</A>
+
+With the default settings, cryptsetup uses cbc mode encryption,
+which makes it much more likely that it can be cracked.
+
+See <A HREF="http://clemens.endorphin.org/nmihde/nmihde-A4-os.pdf">http://clemens.endorphin.org/nmihde/nmihde-A4-os.pdf</A>
+for an explanation of how this is done.
+
+In Mageia's diskdrake, the setting is overridden to use xts mode,
+instead of cbc mode.
+
+If you prefer to use the less secure method, in order
+to keep it compatible with the windows applications, you'll
+have to re-encrypt it manually with
+cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/sd??.
+
+Don't forget to backup the data first, as this will erase that
+device.
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+    <B>Funda Wang</B> 
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+Could somebody push libtasn1 2.12 and gnutls 3.0.17 into cauldron?
+They fixed security problem (MU-201202-01, MU-201202-02), as described
+here:
+<A HREF="http://blog.mudynamics.com/2012/03/20/gnutls-and-libtasn1-vulns/">http://blog.mudynamics.com/2012/03/20/gnutls-and-libtasn1-vulns/</A>
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+    <B>simple w8</B> 
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+    <I>Wed Mar 21 08:41:00 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>2012/3/21 David W. Hodgins &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">davidwhodgins at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:57:47 -0400, simple w8 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">simplew8 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I use sometimes to boo Windows, and if i need some file i use to mount
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> my /home encrypted partition using FreeOTFE (or TrueCrypt) to access
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the files i need, but i saw today that the /home partition that was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> created in mageia is not possible to mount with FreeOTFE or TrueCrypt.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But the /home partition created with mandriva drakdisk can be mounted
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with those 2 applications, so seams that Mageia drakdisk isnt doing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> something right.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's likely a result of
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3092">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3092</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With the default settings, cryptsetup uses cbc mode encryption,
+</I>&gt;<i> which makes it much more likely that it can be cracked.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See <A HREF="http://clemens.endorphin.org/nmihde/nmihde-A4-os.pdf">http://clemens.endorphin.org/nmihde/nmihde-A4-os.pdf</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> for an explanation of how this is done.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In Mageia's diskdrake, the setting is overridden to use xts mode,
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of cbc mode.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you prefer to use the less secure method, in order
+</I>&gt;<i> to keep it compatible with the windows applications, you'll
+</I>&gt;<i> have to re-encrypt it manually with
+</I>&gt;<i> cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/sd??.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Don't forget to backup the data first, as this will erase that
+</I>&gt;<i> device.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>
+Thanks for the clarification, and was a very good improvement :)
+
+But i think it would be better to have in diskdrake some option
+allowing the user to choose the cypher, since the default cypher used
+in cryptsetup and in other apps that support luks, is cbc, and this
+way diskdrake is putting it incompatible with remaning apps that
+support luks.
+
+This way the user could be informed about whats happening and also
+would have a choice, that would be great and would in fact increase
+diskdrake popularity.
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/19 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;
+
+&gt;<i> Please see thread from earlier today on this topic.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If needed I can do the complicated job of cherry picking most of the
+</I>&gt;<i> patches instead if the version bump scares people :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I must say I miss here some knowledge to take this decision and I'd like
+some other opinions on this
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> colin(at)mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Day Job:
+</I>&gt;<i>  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Open Source:
+</I>&gt;<i>  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
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+-- 
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+    <B>D.Morgan</B> 
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+    <I>Wed Mar 21 09:24:10 CET 2012</I>
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> please let icedtea-web go through it improve the new &#160;java web applet.
+</I>
+see : <A HREF="http://icedtea.classpath.org/wiki/IcedTea-Web#IcedTea-Web_1.2">http://icedtea.classpath.org/wiki/IcedTea-Web#IcedTea-Web_1.2</A>
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer stage2">ennael at mageia.org
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+    <I>Wed Mar 21 09:26:00 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>2012/3/21 Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please let in drakx-installer stage2:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - it fixes a rare bug where one would do a disk install from a directory
+</I>&gt;<i> where
+</I>&gt;<i>  he downloaded a bugs ntfsundelete iso image too (mga#4919)
+</I>&gt;<i> - more important, it makes installer less scary by not displaying
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;preparing bootloader&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i>  letting some users to think we're overwritting their MBR whereas we just
+</I>&gt;<i> moved
+</I>&gt;<i>  configuring bootloader to the summary years ago (mga#484):
+</I>&gt;<i>  o step column: hide so called &quot;bootlader&quot; step since we do _not_
+</I>&gt;<i>     actually install bootloader at this stage but later in summary
+</I>&gt;<i>  o make &quot;Preparing bootloader&quot; less intimidating
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See you
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+done
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+-- 
+Anne
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Freeze%20push%3A%20libtasn1%2C%20gnutls&In-Reply-To=%3CCACYHsMzR3rP%3D%3DyCoSreNSKdyYHyp5qM68P9Ww7USjK5P5dyCSg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libtasn1, gnutls">ennael at mageia.org
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+    <I>Wed Mar 21 09:27:44 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>2012/3/21 Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could somebody push libtasn1 2.12 and gnutls 3.0.17 into cauldron?
+</I>&gt;<i> They fixed security problem (MU-201202-01, MU-201202-02), as described
+</I>&gt;<i> here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mudynamics.com/2012/03/20/gnutls-and-libtasn1-vulns/">http://blog.mudynamics.com/2012/03/20/gnutls-and-libtasn1-vulns/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Done
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+    <B>Jani V&#228;limaa</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Please push fsarchiver, new version fixes a bug. See
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+&gt;<i> Please push minitube, new version is a bugfix release. See
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube-1-7-1-bugfix-release">http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube-1-7-1-bugfix-release</A>
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/3/19 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     Please see thread from earlier today on this topic.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     If needed I can do the complicated job of cherry picking most of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     patches instead if the version bump scares people :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I must say I miss here some knowledge to take this decision and I'd like
+</I>&gt;<i> some other opinions on this
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+Reading the changes in git, I see enough fixes that I also think we 
+need, so I'd say lets push it as it would otherwise be mostly a systemd 
+v44 disguised as a v43  with a lot of patches.
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:47:16AM +0200, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+&gt;<i> Anne nicolas skrev 21.3.2012 10:23:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;2012/3/19 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;    Please see thread from earlier today on this topic.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;    If needed I can do the complicated job of cherry picking most of the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;    patches instead if the version bump scares people :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;I must say I miss here some knowledge to take this decision and I'd like
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;some other opinions on this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Reading the changes in git, I see enough fixes that I also think we
+</I>&gt;<i> need, so I'd say lets push it as it would otherwise be mostly a
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd v44 disguised as a v43  with a lot of patches.
+</I>
+Agree. Only possible problem is enforcement of UTF-8 in configuration
+files. I don't think that'll cause problems and even if so, easily
+fixed.
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:47:16AM +0200, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Anne nicolas skrev 21.3.2012 10:23:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;2012/3/19 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;    Please see thread from earlier today on this topic.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;    If needed I can do the complicated job of cherry picking most of
+</I>&gt;<i> the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;    patches instead if the version bump scares people :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;I must say I miss here some knowledge to take this decision and I'd like
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;some other opinions on this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Reading the changes in git, I see enough fixes that I also think we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; need, so I'd say lets push it as it would otherwise be mostly a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; systemd v44 disguised as a v43  with a lot of patches.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Agree. Only possible problem is enforcement of UTF-8 in configuration
+</I>&gt;<i> files. I don't think that'll cause problems and even if so, easily
+</I>&gt;<i> fixed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+ok thanks for your comments. Colin be prepared to fix any problem :)
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Olav
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've update postfix in svn, from 2.8.8 to 2.9.1.  As I was told, I place
+</I>&gt;<i> here 2 reasons I believe it shall be pushed:
+</I>&gt;<i> - it supports memcached protocol, so faster postfix
+</I>&gt;<i> - it has a new tolerance for backend, for example, if mysql backend fails
+</I>&gt;<i> in 2.8 postfix will refuse all emails at instant of outstage, but in 2.9 it
+</I>&gt;<i> has tolerance so it will accept emails for a while, this will give
+</I>&gt;<i> tolerance if link to backent fails and returns.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please, kindly, push it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Given all this this does not seem to be a candidate for freeze push
+
+
+&gt;<i> LD
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> *Enviado desde mi tel&#233;fono Verizon Wireless*
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> - more important, it makes installer less scary by not displaying
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;preparing bootloader&quot;,
+</I>
+A big thank you to cleaning up the installer. This bootloader thing was 
+useless. The last unfriendly thing for me is the fact user account and 
+root password are asked too soon : we have to wait for several rpm 
+installs after it.
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/17 Jani V&#228;limaa &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Please push fsarchiver, new version fixes a bug. See
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.fsarchiver.org/Changelog">http://www.fsarchiver.org/Changelog</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ping?!
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/21 Jani V&#228;limaa &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>&gt;
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/17 Jani V&#228;limaa &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jani.valimaa at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Please push minitube, new version is a bugfix release. See
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube-1-7-1-bugfix-release">http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube-1-7-1-bugfix-release</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ping?!
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+    <B>Daniel Tartavel</B> 
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+<PRE>Le mardi 13 mars 2012, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Armando B. at 13/03/12 15:07 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in this days i'm interesting to this new hardware Raspberry Pi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.raspberrypi.org/">http://www.raspberrypi.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it's based on ARM arch and have great performance on video, on website
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; there is also a video with XBMC that play an H264 stream 1080p 30fps.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It support OpenGL ES2.0 and OpenVG, have 2 usb port, 1 lan, 1 audio
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; out, 1 hdmi out, 1 rca video.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Price: ~27 euro :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; For now there is only one distribution supported/sponsored, Fedora 14 remix.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Could be an opportunity for Mageia visibility, first 10000 pieces were
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; sold in only 2 hours, could be 10000 new Mageia users :)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> One of these is certainly on my shopping list and I'd very much like to
+</I>&gt;<i> see mga running on one of them!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>Hi,
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+Animateur Dipl&#244;m&#233; en Technologies de l'Information et de la Communication.
+Technicien de Maintenance en Informatique
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+siret : 511 210 858 RCS Lyon 
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+We will have our meeting as usual. Topics will be all focused on
+Mageia 2 release. It would be nice to have triage team, QA and as many
+packagers as possible and especially the one in charge of main
+softwares (base system, KDE, GNOME...)
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+    <B>Barry Jackson</B> 
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+Just confirmation that it WFM would be a help.
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+This is also after a re-install of Cauldron, but my configuration is as 
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+&gt;<i> Ping - any ideas anyone? - this is driving me nuts!
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+</I>&gt;<i> Just confirmation that it WFM would be a help.
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+</I>&gt;<i> This is also after a re-install of Cauldron, but my configuration is as
+</I>&gt;<i> before, and the same as in 1 where it works fine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+I think this is a bug introduced by tv (always using --buildrequires when
+calling urpmi) that I fixed in svn
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+    <B>David Sj&#246;lin</B> 
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+Supposedly, ArchLinux and Debian also works on Raspberry Pi, but I
+agree. It would be nice to get Mageia to work there.
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+Regards,
+
+David
+
+
+On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Daniel Tartavel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">contact at librepc.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le mardi 13 mars 2012, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Armando B. at 13/03/12 15:07 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; in this days i'm interesting to this new hardware Raspberry Pi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.raspberrypi.org/">http://www.raspberrypi.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; it's based on ARM arch and have great performance on video, on website
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; there is also a video with XBMC that play an H264 stream 1080p 30fps.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; It support OpenGL ES2.0 and OpenVG, have 2 usb port, 1 lan, 1 audio
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; out, 1 hdmi out, 1 rca video.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Price: ~27 euro :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; For now there is only one distribution supported/sponsored, Fedora 14 remix.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Could be an opportunity for Mageia visibility, first 10000 pieces were
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; sold in only 2 hours, could be 10000 new Mageia users :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> One of these is certainly on my shopping list and I'd very much like to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> see mga running on one of them!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Daniel Tartavel
+</I>&gt;<i> Animateur Dipl&#244;m&#233; en Technologies de l'Information et de la Communication.
+</I>&gt;<i> Technicien de Maintenance en Informatique
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+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.librepc.com">http://www.librepc.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> siret : 511 210 858 RCS Lyon
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+    <B>simple w8</B> 
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+<PRE>Hi,
+
+Today i have tried to package an updated wpa_supplicant (from git) and
+was not possible due to missing texlive features.
+
+In mandriva i used to package wpa_supplicant without any problem and i
+see that texlive packaging is rather different in Mageia, but see the
+output to see what im talking about:
+
+~/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap
++ pushd doc/docbook
+~/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook
+~/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap
++ make -j4
+for i in wpa_background wpa_cli wpa_gui wpa_passphrase wpa_priv
+wpa_supplicant.conf wpa_supplicant; do docbook2man $i.sgml; done
+for i in wpa_background wpa_cli wpa_gui wpa_passphrase wpa_priv
+wpa_supplicant.conf wpa_supplicant; do docbook2html $i.sgml &amp;&amp; \
+        mv index.html $i.html; done
+for i in wpa_background wpa_cli wpa_gui wpa_passphrase wpa_priv
+wpa_supplicant.conf wpa_supplicant; do docbook2pdf $i.sgml; done
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_background.sgml
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_background.sgml
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#html
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_background.sgml
+Done.
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_cli.sgml
+Done.
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_gui.sgml
+Done.
+Done.
+
+kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdfjadetex.fmt
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#html
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_cli.sgml
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_passphrase.sgml
+Done.
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_priv.sgml
+Done.
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_supplicant.conf.sgml
+Done.
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#html
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_gui.sgml
+Done.
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_supplicant.sgml
+Done.
+Done.
+fmtutil: running `pdftex -ini   -jobname=pdfjadetex
+-progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' ...
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#html
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_passphrase.sgml
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.
+Error: `pdftex -ini  -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex
+*pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+Done.
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#html
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_priv.sgml
+Done.
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#html
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_supplicant.conf.sgml
+
+###############################################################################
+fmtutil: Error! Not all formats have been built successfully.
+Visit the log files in directory
+  /home/simplew/.texlive2011/texmf-var/web2c
+for details.
+###############################################################################
+
+This is a summary of all `failed' messages:
+`pdftex -ini  -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+warning: kpathsea: mktexfmt output `This is pdfTeX, Version
+3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.' instead of a filename.
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_cli.sgml
+Done.
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#html
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_supplicant.sgml
+
+kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdfjadetex.fmt
+Done.
+fmtutil: running `pdftex -ini   -jobname=pdfjadetex
+-progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' ...
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.
+Error: `pdftex -ini  -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex
+*pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+
+###############################################################################
+fmtutil: Error! Not all formats have been built successfully.
+Visit the log files in directory
+  /home/simplew/.texlive2011/texmf-var/web2c
+for details.
+###############################################################################
+
+This is a summary of all `failed' messages:
+`pdftex -ini  -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+warning: kpathsea: mktexfmt output `This is pdfTeX, Version
+3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.' instead of a filename.
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_gui.sgml
+
+kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdfjadetex.fmt
+fmtutil: running `pdftex -ini   -jobname=pdfjadetex
+-progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' ...
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.
+Error: `pdftex -ini  -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex
+*pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+
+###############################################################################
+fmtutil: Error! Not all formats have been built successfully.
+Visit the log files in directory
+  /home/simplew/.texlive2011/texmf-var/web2c
+for details.
+###############################################################################
+
+This is a summary of all `failed' messages:
+`pdftex -ini  -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+warning: kpathsea: mktexfmt output `This is pdfTeX, Version
+3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.' instead of a filename.
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_passphrase.sgml
+
+kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdfjadetex.fmt
+fmtutil: running `pdftex -ini   -jobname=pdfjadetex
+-progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' ...
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.
+Error: `pdftex -ini  -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex
+*pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+
+###############################################################################
+fmtutil: Error! Not all formats have been built successfully.
+Visit the log files in directory
+  /home/simplew/.texlive2011/texmf-var/web2c
+for details.
+###############################################################################
+
+This is a summary of all `failed' messages:
+`pdftex -ini  -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+warning: kpathsea: mktexfmt output `This is pdfTeX, Version
+3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.' instead of a filename.
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_priv.sgml
+
+kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdfjadetex.fmt
+fmtutil: running `pdftex -ini   -jobname=pdfjadetex
+-progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' ...
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.
+Error: `pdftex -ini  -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex
+*pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+
+###############################################################################
+fmtutil: Error! Not all formats have been built successfully.
+Visit the log files in directory
+  /home/simplew/.texlive2011/texmf-var/web2c
+for details.
+###############################################################################
+
+This is a summary of all `failed' messages:
+`pdftex -ini  -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+warning: kpathsea: mktexfmt output `This is pdfTeX, Version
+3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.' instead of a filename.
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_supplicant.conf.sgml
+
+kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdfjadetex.fmt
+fmtutil: running `pdftex -ini   -jobname=pdfjadetex
+-progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' ...
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.
+Error: `pdftex -ini  -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex
+*pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+
+###############################################################################
+fmtutil: Error! Not all formats have been built successfully.
+Visit the log files in directory
+  /home/simplew/.texlive2011/texmf-var/web2c
+for details.
+###############################################################################
+
+This is a summary of all `failed' messages:
+`pdftex -ini  -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+warning: kpathsea: mktexfmt output `This is pdfTeX, Version
+3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.' instead of a filename.
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_supplicant.sgml
+
+kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdfjadetex.fmt
+fmtutil: running `pdftex -ini   -jobname=pdfjadetex
+-progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' ...
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
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+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.
+Error: `pdftex -ini  -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex
+*pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+
+###############################################################################
+fmtutil: Error! Not all formats have been built successfully.
+Visit the log files in directory
+  /home/simplew/.texlive2011/texmf-var/web2c
+for details.
+###############################################################################
+
+This is a summary of all `failed' messages:
+`pdftex -ini  -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+warning: kpathsea: mktexfmt output `This is pdfTeX, Version
+3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+                   {LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.' instead of a filename.
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia)
+ restricted \write18 enabled.
+I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+make: *** [pdf] Error 9
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+TIA,
+Simplew
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+    <B>Barry Jackson</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?">zen25000 at zen.co.uk
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+&gt;<i> On 21/03/12 11:36, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think this is a bug introduced by tv (always using --buildrequires
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> when calling urpmi) that I fixed in svn
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't remember if I have updated the package since fixing
+</I>&gt;<i> Ah - thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i> svn is at  3646
+</I>&gt;<i> package is 3264 !!
+</I>&gt;<i> ... so maybe an update is due? ;)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I have just re-build the iurt package from latest svn and all is now 
+working.
+
+I can commit the new tarball and spec if you wish - just let me know.
+
+Thanks again - I was tearing my hair out!   :)
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+<PRE>Am 21.03.2012 14:33, schrieb simple w8:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Today i have tried to package an updated wpa_supplicant (from git) and
+</I>&gt;<i> was not possible due to missing texlive features.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+[...]
+
+&gt;<i> I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+</I>&gt;<i> make: *** [pdf] Error 9
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Is jadetex installed?
+
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+    <B>Brett</B> 
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+<PRE>I have a raspberry pi ordered and would be willing to help with testing. Seems like the ARM port of Mageia has been inactive for a while?
+-- 
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+1. Re: urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host? (Barry Jackson)
+2. Re: urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host? (Pascal Terjan)
+3. Re: Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi (David Sj?lin)
+4. Re: urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host? (Barry Jackson)
+5. texlive missing files/apps in Mageia (simple w8)
+
+
+_____________________________________________
+
+
+Message: 1
+Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:16:01 +0000
+From: Barry Jackson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">zen25000 at zen.co.uk</A>&gt;
+To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+Message-ID: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">4F69B871.4040503 at zen.co.uk</A>&gt;
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
+
+Ping - any ideas anyone? - this is driving me nuts!
+
+Just confirmation that it WFM would be a help.
+
+This is also after a re-install of Cauldron, but my configuration is as 
+before, and the same as in 1 where it works fine.
+
+
+_____________________________________________
+
+
+Message: 2
+Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 11:36:57 +0000
+From: Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia development mailing-list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+Message-ID:
+	&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">CA+CX+bgObD2W4tD0tZrbZozYF-r+B7QWOkdrxXp83C+oTQDn3w at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=&quot;iso-8859-1&quot;
+
+On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:16, Barry Jackson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">zen25000 at zen.co.uk</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Ping - any ideas anyone? - this is driving me nuts!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just confirmation that it WFM would be a help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is also after a re-install of Cauldron, but my configuration is as
+</I>&gt;<i> before, and the same as in 1 where it works fine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I think this is a bug introduced by tv (always using --buildrequires when
+calling urpmi) that I fixed in svn
+I don't remember if I have updated the package since fixing
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+Message: 3
+Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 12:58:13 +0100
+From: David Sj?lin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">david.sjolin at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+To: Mageia development mailing-list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi
+Message-ID:
+	&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">CAOHCieAwyhihRpoLb6z-161-HiJddp_BWX0zMTApMofgybKqaw at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
+
+Hello!
+
+Supposedly, ArchLinux and Debian also works on Raspberry Pi, but I
+agree. It would be nice to get Mageia to work there.
+
+Regards,
+
+David
+
+
+On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Daniel Tartavel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">contact at librepc.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le mardi 13 mars 2012, Colin Guthrie a ?crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Armando B. at 13/03/12 15:07 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Hi all,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; in this days i'm interesting to this new hardware Raspberry Pi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://www.raspberrypi.org/">http://www.raspberrypi.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; it's based on ARM arch and have great performance on video, on website
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; there is also a video with XBMC that play an H264 stream 1080p 30fps.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; It support OpenGL ES2.0 and OpenVG, have 2 usb port, 1 lan, 1 audio
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; out, 1 hdmi out, 1 rca video.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Price: ~27 euro :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; For now there is only one distribution supported/sponsored, Fedora 14 remix.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Could be an opportunity for Mageia visibility, first 10000 pieces were
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; sold in only 2 hours, could be 10000 new Mageia users :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> One of these is certainly on my shopping list and I'd very much like to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> see mga running on one of them!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Daniel Tartavel
+</I>&gt;<i> Animateur Dipl?m? en Technologies de l'Information et de la Communication.
+</I>&gt;<i> Technicien de Maintenance en Informatique
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.librepc.com">http://www.librepc.com</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> siret : 511 210 858 RCS Lyon
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Je vous serais reconnaissant de ne pas m'envoyer de pi?ces jointes
+</I>&gt;<i> aux formats Word, Excel, PowerPoint, RTF, ?fichiers aux formats propri?taires.
+</I>&gt;<i> Utilisez des formats universels et libres tels que texte, html,
+</I>&gt;<i> OpenDocument, TeX, ? la limite PDF. Merci.
+</I>&gt;<i> Voir <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.fr.html">http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.fr.html</A>
+</I>
+
+_____________________________________________
+
+
+Message: 4
+Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:04:29 +0000
+From: Barry Jackson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">zen25000 at zen.co.uk</A>&gt;
+To: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>
+Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+Message-ID: &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">4F69D1DD.20605 at zen.co.uk</A>&gt;
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
+
+On 21/03/12 11:36, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+&gt;<i> I think this is a bug introduced by tv (always using --buildrequires
+</I>&gt;<i> when calling urpmi) that I fixed in svn
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't remember if I have updated the package since fixing
+</I>Ah - thanks,
+svn is at 3646
+package is 3264 !!
+... so maybe an update is due? ;)
+
+
+
+_____________________________________________
+
+
+Message: 5
+Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 13:33:17 +0000
+From: simple w8 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">simplew8 at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+To: mageia-dev &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Subject: [Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+Message-ID:
+	&lt;CAKVccoUbqGPPsfHtj-Z9jgfkOQti5Y6mFK5zaZvft+A=<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">+92bog at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;
+Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
+
+Hi,
+
+Today i have tried to package an updated wpa_supplicant (from git) and
+was not possible due to missing texlive features.
+
+In mandriva i used to package wpa_supplicant without any problem and i
+see that texlive packaging is rather different in Mageia, but see the
+output to see what im talking about:
+
+~/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap
++ pushd doc/docbook
+~/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook
+~/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap
++ make -j4
+for i in wpa_background wpa_cli wpa_gui wpa_passphrase wpa_priv
+wpa_supplicant.conf wpa_supplicant; do docbook2man $i.sgml; done
+for i in wpa_background wpa_cli wpa_gui wpa_passphrase wpa_priv
+wpa_supplicant.conf wpa_supplicant; do docbook2html $i.sgml &amp;&amp; \
+mv index.html $i.html; done
+for i in wpa_background wpa_cli wpa_gui wpa_passphrase wpa_priv
+wpa_supplicant.conf wpa_supplicant; do docbook2pdf $i.sgml; done
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_background.sgml
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_background.sgml
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#html
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_background.sgml
+Done.
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_cli.sgml
+Done.
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_gui.sgml
+Done.
+Done.
+
+kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdfjadetex.fmt
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#html
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_cli.sgml
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_passphrase.sgml
+Done.
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_priv.sgml
+Done.
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_supplicant.conf.sgml
+Done.
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#html
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_gui.sgml
+Done.
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_supplicant.sgml
+Done.
+Done.
+fmtutil: running `pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex
+-progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' ...
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#html
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_passphrase.sgml
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.
+Error: `pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex
+*pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+Done.
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#html
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_priv.sgml
+Done.
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#html
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_supplicant.conf.sgml
+
+###############################################################################
+fmtutil: Error! Not all formats have been built successfully.
+Visit the log files in directory
+/home/simplew/.texlive2011/texmf-var/web2c
+for details.
+###############################################################################
+
+This is a summary of all `failed' messages:
+`pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+warning: kpathsea: mktexfmt output `This is pdfTeX, Version
+3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.' instead of a filename.
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_cli.sgml
+Done.
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#html
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_supplicant.sgml
+
+kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdfjadetex.fmt
+Done.
+fmtutil: running `pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex
+-progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' ...
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.
+Error: `pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex
+*pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+
+###############################################################################
+fmtutil: Error! Not all formats have been built successfully.
+Visit the log files in directory
+/home/simplew/.texlive2011/texmf-var/web2c
+for details.
+###############################################################################
+
+This is a summary of all `failed' messages:
+`pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+warning: kpathsea: mktexfmt output `This is pdfTeX, Version
+3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.' instead of a filename.
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_gui.sgml
+
+kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdfjadetex.fmt
+fmtutil: running `pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex
+-progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' ...
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.
+Error: `pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex
+*pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+
+###############################################################################
+fmtutil: Error! Not all formats have been built successfully.
+Visit the log files in directory
+/home/simplew/.texlive2011/texmf-var/web2c
+for details.
+###############################################################################
+
+This is a summary of all `failed' messages:
+`pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+warning: kpathsea: mktexfmt output `This is pdfTeX, Version
+3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.' instead of a filename.
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_passphrase.sgml
+
+kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdfjadetex.fmt
+fmtutil: running `pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex
+-progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' ...
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.
+Error: `pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex
+*pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+
+###############################################################################
+fmtutil: Error! Not all formats have been built successfully.
+Visit the log files in directory
+/home/simplew/.texlive2011/texmf-var/web2c
+for details.
+###############################################################################
+
+This is a summary of all `failed' messages:
+`pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+warning: kpathsea: mktexfmt output `This is pdfTeX, Version
+3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.' instead of a filename.
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_priv.sgml
+
+kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdfjadetex.fmt
+fmtutil: running `pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex
+-progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' ...
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.
+Error: `pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex
+*pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+
+###############################################################################
+fmtutil: Error! Not all formats have been built successfully.
+Visit the log files in directory
+/home/simplew/.texlive2011/texmf-var/web2c
+for details.
+###############################################################################
+
+This is a summary of all `failed' messages:
+`pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+warning: kpathsea: mktexfmt output `This is pdfTeX, Version
+3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.' instead of a filename.
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_supplicant.conf.sgml
+
+kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdfjadetex.fmt
+fmtutil: running `pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex
+-progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' ...
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.
+Error: `pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex
+*pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+
+###############################################################################
+fmtutil: Error! Not all formats have been built successfully.
+Visit the log files in directory
+/home/simplew/.texlive2011/texmf-var/web2c
+for details.
+###############################################################################
+
+This is a summary of all `failed' messages:
+`pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+warning: kpathsea: mktexfmt output `This is pdfTeX, Version
+3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.' instead of a filename.
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+Using catalogs: /etc/sgml/sgml-docbook-4.1.cat
+Using stylesheet: /usr/share/sgml/docbook/utils-0.6.14/docbook-utils.dsl#print
+Working on: /home/simplew/rpmbuild/BUILD/hostap/wpa_supplicant/doc/docbook/wpa_supplicant.sgml
+
+kpathsea: Running mktexfmt pdfjadetex.fmt
+fmtutil: running `pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex
+-progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' ...
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.
+Error: `pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex
+*pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+
+###############################################################################
+fmtutil: Error! Not all formats have been built successfully.
+Visit the log files in directory
+/home/simplew/.texlive2011/texmf-var/web2c
+for details.
+###############################################################################
+
+This is a summary of all `failed' messages:
+`pdftex -ini -jobname=pdfjadetex -progname=pdfjadetex *pdfjadetex.ini' failed
+warning: kpathsea: mktexfmt output `This is pdfTeX, Version
+3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia) (INITEX)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+entering extended mode
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/pdfjadetex.ini
+(/usr/share/texmf/tex/jadetex/jadetex.ltx
+! Undefined control sequence.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+?
+! Emergency stop.
+l.9 \NeedsTeXFormat
+{LaTeX2e}[1995/06/01]
+No pages of output.
+Transcript written on pdfjadetex.log.' instead of a filename.
+This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.3-1.40.12 (TeX Live 2011/Mageia)
+restricted \write18 enabled.
+I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+make: *** [pdf] Error 9
+
+TIA,
+Simplew
+
+
+End of Mageia-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 116
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+    <B>simple w8</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?">simplew8 at gmail.com
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+    <I>Wed Mar 21 15:14:31 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>2012/3/21 Barry Jackson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">zen25000 at zen.co.uk</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 21/03/12 13:04, Barry Jackson wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 21/03/12 11:36, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think this is a bug introduced by tv (always using --buildrequires
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> when calling urpmi) that I fixed in svn
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I don't remember if I have updated the package since fixing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ah - thanks,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> svn is at &#160;3646
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> package is 3264 !!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ... so maybe an update is due? ;)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have just re-build the iurt package from latest svn and all is now
+</I>&gt;<i> working.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can commit the new tarball and spec if you wish - just let me know.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks again - I was tearing my hair out! &#160; :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+You have not understand, im saying that is not possible to build the
+doc stuff from wpa_supplicant.
+I still didnt look into the mageia wpa_supplicant spec but if you
+build it without issues its because you have not set to build doc
+files, and thats form where the problem comes.
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+If you want to build docs you just need to enter in directory
+doc/docbook  and run make.
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+    <B>brett</B> 
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+I am among those to receive one of the first batch or two of raspberry 
+pi devices.
+I would be happy to help with testing as I would LOVE to be able to use 
+Mageia on the device (as well as on a smartphone!)
+
+It seems that the ARM port has been rather inactive over the past year, 
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+<PRE>Am 21.03.2012 15:14, schrieb simple w8:
+&gt;<i> You have not understand, im saying that is not possible to build the
+</I>&gt;<i> doc stuff from wpa_supplicant.
+</I>Could you please not break threads?
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+Thanks!
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+-- 
+Oliver Burger
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+Mageia contributor
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+    <B>D.Morgan</B> 
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+I just saw that FF 10.0.0.3esr is on the svn but not available as rpm.
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+can you push it ?
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+    <B>D.Morgan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:07 PM, D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> I just saw that FF 10.0.0.3esr is on the svn but not available as rpm.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> can you push it ?
+</I>
+as told in firefox page (
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Enterprise/Firefox/ExtendedSupport:Proposal">https://wiki.mozilla.org/Enterprise/Firefox/ExtendedSupport:Proposal</A> )
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+    <B>D.Morgan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:15 PM, D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:07 PM, D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I just saw that FF 10.0.0.3esr is on the svn but not available as rpm.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> can you push it ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> as told in firefox page (
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Enterprise/Firefox/ExtendedSupport:Proposal">https://wiki.mozilla.org/Enterprise/Firefox/ExtendedSupport:Proposal</A> )
+</I>&gt;<i> ESR releases only receive security fixes.
+</I>
+some more infos :
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_10.0.3esr/BuildNotes#Bugs_hit">https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_10.0.3esr/BuildNotes#Bugs_hit</A>
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+&gt;<i> Am 21.03.2012 15:14, schrieb simple w8:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You have not understand, im saying that is not possible to build the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> doc stuff from wpa_supplicant.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could you please not break threads?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver Burger
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia contributor
+</I>
+Ups, sorry, i have missconfused :)
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+    <B>simple w8</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/21 Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Am 21.03.2012 14:33, schrieb simple w8:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Today i have tried to package an updated wpa_supplicant (from git) and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> was not possible due to missing texlive features.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> make: *** [pdf] Error 9
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is jadetex installed?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>
+ Yes
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/21 D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:15 PM, D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 4:07 PM, D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just saw that FF 10.0.0.3esr is on the svn but not available as rpm.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> can you push it ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as told in firefox page (
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Enterprise/Firefox/ExtendedSupport:Proposal">https://wiki.mozilla.org/Enterprise/Firefox/ExtendedSupport:Proposal</A> )
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ESR releases only receive security fixes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> some more infos :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_10.0.3esr/BuildNotes#Bugs_hit">https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_10.0.3esr/BuildNotes#Bugs_hit</A>
+</I>
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+    <B>Claire Robinson</B> 
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+<PRE>On 21/03/12 15:25, simple w8 wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/21 Oliver Burger&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 21.03.2012 14:33, schrieb simple w8:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Today i have tried to package an updated wpa_supplicant (from git) and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> was not possible due to missing texlive features.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> make: *** [pdf] Error 9
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is jadetex installed?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>   Yes
+</I>
+This is probably related to bug 1538
+
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1538">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1538</A>
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+jadetex is missing a require on texlive-texmf
+
+Try installing texlive-texmf and reinstalling jadetex.
+
+Claire
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:27:49AM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'll try and ensure that at least the SPEC files are already updated
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (via my that is triggered via ftp-release-list). However, I do expect
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; various submission failures, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Updated list of packages which are hosted on 'ftp.gnome.org':
+</I>
+Submitting now in the order specified by &quot;jhbuild list&quot; (to avoid any
+dependency problems). I'm using mgaqueue.sh. Never used that before, so
+let's see :)
+
+I'll submit any failures manually again.
+
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+Regards,
+Olav
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+    <B>Hugo Pereira Da Costa</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 07:21:44PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:27:49AM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'll try and ensure that at least the SPEC files are already updated
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (via my that is triggered via ftp-release-list). However, I do expect
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> various submission failures, etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Updated list of packages which are hosted on 'ftp.gnome.org':
+</I>&gt;<i> Submitting now in the order specified by &quot;jhbuild list&quot; (to avoid any
+</I>&gt;<i> dependency problems). I'm using mgaqueue.sh. Never used that before, so
+</I>&gt;<i> let's see :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll submit any failures manually again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>For the record, oxygen-gtk3 (current release is 1.0.2) looks pretty bad 
+(that is: close to unusable) with gtk+-3.3.20, used for gnome 3.3.92. 
+However I've made quite some progress at fixing the issues (and am still 
+working on it). Will provide a new release by Friday.
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Robert Fox at 20/03/12 08:13 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Tried to research it, but it look more like it is for servers than
+</I>&gt;<i> desktop.  Could someone explain what the value-add is of using this on
+</I>&gt;<i> the desktop?
+</I>
+As used in the context of systemd just a general mechanism for tracking
+processes. In the olden days, a service could exec other binaries quite
+happily. Killing the primary pid of the service meant that any other
+binaries launched were not necessarily killed. This mean that the
+service needed to implement it's own accounting and tracking system and
+there was no way to properly track to what service a given processes
+belongs.
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+Now with cgroups, it's possible to fully track all the processes started
+by a given service and kill each of them properly when stopping the service.
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+In addition it's also possible to identify to which service a given
+process belongs. e.g. if something is spinning out of control you can
+see it in top and then trace it back to the service itself.
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+There are numerous other things that can be done with cgroups such as
+imposing various limits on a given service (and any subsequent processes
+it spawns).
+
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+Overall this is an accounting mechanism that is something very much
+baked into systemd. It's an integral part of it. It's not something we
+could simply &quot;turn off&quot; on desktops vs. servers.
+
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+However, this isn't really the right place to discuss this topic.
+
+Col
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 16:24 +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Robert Fox at 20/03/12 08:13 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Tried to research it, but it look more like it is for servers than
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; desktop.  Could someone explain what the value-add is of using this on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the desktop?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> As used in the context of systemd just a general mechanism for tracking
+</I>&gt;<i> processes. In the olden days, a service could exec other binaries quite
+</I>&gt;<i> happily. Killing the primary pid of the service meant that any other
+</I>&gt;<i> binaries launched were not necessarily killed. This mean that the
+</I>&gt;<i> service needed to implement it's own accounting and tracking system and
+</I>&gt;<i> there was no way to properly track to what service a given processes
+</I>&gt;<i> belongs.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Now with cgroups, it's possible to fully track all the processes started
+</I>&gt;<i> by a given service and kill each of them properly when stopping the service.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> In addition it's also possible to identify to which service a given
+</I>&gt;<i> process belongs. e.g. if something is spinning out of control you can
+</I>&gt;<i> see it in top and then trace it back to the service itself.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> There are numerous other things that can be done with cgroups such as
+</I>&gt;<i> imposing various limits on a given service (and any subsequent processes
+</I>&gt;<i> it spawns).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Overall this is an accounting mechanism that is something very much
+</I>&gt;<i> baked into systemd. It's an integral part of it. It's not something we
+</I>&gt;<i> could simply &quot;turn off&quot; on desktops vs. servers.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> However, this isn't really the right place to discuss this topic.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+Thanks Col - very informative and helpful!
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+Cheers,
+Robert
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+<PRE>Le 21/03/2012 11:54, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We will have our meeting as usual. Topics will be all focused on
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2 release. It would be nice to have triage team, QA and as many
+</I>&gt;<i> packagers as possible and especially the one in charge of main
+</I>&gt;<i> softwares (base system, KDE, GNOME...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - freeze push reminder and release freeze
+</I>&gt;<i> - bug tracking (release_blocker bugs)
+</I>&gt;<i> - security updates before final release
+</I>&gt;<i> - QA tests for upgrade
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>Hello, not sure I can be here tonight but will try.
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+    <B>Damien Lallement</B> 
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+shotwell 0.12 (replacing f-spot in 2) will soon be available.
+For now, a new version of libexiv2 is needed for the last git snapshot.
+Please push both packages as their were a lot a bug fixes since 3 weeks.
+shotwell 0.12 should be available in 2 weeks.
+
+libgexiv2 first please... ;-)
+
+Thanks,
+-- 
+Damien Lallement
+Treasurer of Mageia.Org
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+twitter: damsweb - IRC: damsweb/coincoin
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi (David Sj?lin)">alien at rmail.be
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+<PRE>Op woensdag 21 maart 2012 15:11:47 schreef brett:
+&gt;<i> Sorry for the double post - n00b to the dev-list here!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I am among those to receive one of the first batch or two of raspberry
+</I>&gt;<i> pi devices.
+</I>&gt;<i> I would be happy to help with testing as I would LOVE to be able to use
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia on the device (as well as on a smartphone!)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems that the ARM port has been rather inactive over the past year,
+</I>&gt;<i> though?
+</I>
+iinm we're actually still starting it up... contact rtp for more info 
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+A new bug tracker has been added <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5046">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5046</A>
+It should be used for security updates to be included before Mageia 2
+is out. It will be closed after RC release.
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+-- 
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+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+    <B>simple w8</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/21 Claire Robinson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">eeeemail at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 21/03/12 15:25, simple w8 wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/21 Oliver Burger&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 21.03.2012 14:33, schrieb simple w8:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Today i have tried to package an updated wpa_supplicant (from git) and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> was not possible due to missing texlive features.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> make: *** [pdf] Error 9
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is jadetex installed?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;Yes
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is probably related to bug 1538
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1538">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1538</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> jadetex is missing a require on texlive-texmf
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Try installing texlive-texmf and reinstalling jadetex.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Claire
+</I>
+All texlive packages are isntalled along with jadetex.
+For what i see there are missing apps from texlive, there are severall
+texlive packages, not just single source.
+
+Maybe texlive maintainer could check mandriva texlive packages and update mageia
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Minor foomatic-filters update (4.0.14) contains just one change, should be safe to go in:
+</I>&gt;<i> 	* foomaticrip.c: If the input data is PDF but the driver requires
+</I>&gt;<i> 	  PostScript, use the pdftops CUPS filter when CUPS is the spooler.
+</I>&gt;<i> 	  This way we always use the same method to convert PDF to PostScript
+</I>&gt;<i> 	  in the whole system, including any workarounds applied in the CUPS
+</I>&gt;<i> 	  filter.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Confirmed that it builds and installs fine locally.
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well, does it also work just fine?
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> could somebody please push thunderbird 10.0.3esr
+</I>&gt;<i> and thunderbird-l10n to cauldron? Thanks in advance.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>Ping?
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Am 17.03.2012 17:41, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; could somebody please push thunderbird 10.0.3esr
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and thunderbird-l10n to cauldron? Thanks in advance.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Ping?
+</I>
+Can you explain why push is needed ?
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12 (replacing f-spot in 2) will soon be available.
+</I>&gt;<i> For now, a new version of libexiv2 is needed for the last git snapshot.
+</I>&gt;<i> Please push both packages as their were a lot a bug fixes since 3 weeks.
+</I>&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12 should be available in 2 weeks.
+</I>
+I think it's too late for version 0.12, so we should not push git
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+<PRE>Le 21/03/2012 23:02, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012, Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 17.03.2012 17:41, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> could somebody please push thunderbird 10.0.3esr
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and thunderbird-l10n to cauldron? Thanks in advance.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ping?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you explain why push is needed ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What version we have now, and why we need a new version.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>same as in the 1 ... bug and security fix
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> libdvdcss update (1.2.12) contains just one change, which is a regression fix:
+</I>&gt;<i> * fix regression on RPC-I drives handling.
+</I>&gt;<i> 	If unsure, assume the drive is of RPC-I type
+</I>&gt;<i> 	This can happen when patched drives do not answer to ioctl_ReportRPC correctly
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+</I>&gt;<i> Confirmed it builds and installs fine locally.
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le 21/03/2012 23:02, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012, Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 17.03.2012 17:41, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> could somebody please push thunderbird 10.0.3esr
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and thunderbird-l10n to cauldron? Thanks in advance.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ping?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can you explain why push is needed ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What version we have now, and why we need a new version.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> same as in the 1 ... bug and security fix
+</I>
+Submitted.
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+&gt;<i> Le 21/03/2012 23:02, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012, Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 17.03.2012 17:41, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> could somebody please push thunderbird 10.0.3esr
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and thunderbird-l10n to cauldron? Thanks in advance.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ping?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can you explain why push is needed ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What version we have now, and why we need a new version.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> same as in the 1 ... bug and security fix
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Sorry, thought that was obvious as we follow ESR branch and firefox
+10.0.3esr was pushed before, and ESR releases are bugfix/security-only.
+
+But will provide proper reasons next time.
+
+For reference: <A HREF="http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/10.0.3/releasenotes/">http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/10.0.3/releasenotes/</A>
+and
+<A HREF="http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/thunderbirdESR.html#thunderbird10.0.3">http://www.mozilla.org/security/known-vulnerabilities/thunderbirdESR.html#thunderbird10.0.3</A>
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012, Damien Lallement wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12 (replacing f-spot in 2) will soon be available.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For now, a new version of libexiv2 is needed for the last git snapshot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please push both packages as their were a lot a bug fixes since 3 weeks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12 should be available in 2 weeks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it's too late for version 0.12, so we should not push git
+</I>&gt;<i> snapshots now.
+</I>
+It's already a git snapshot for a while. Like other distro as shotwell 
+0.12 will be the new major release.
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 07:21:44PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:27:49AM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I'll try and ensure that at least the SPEC files are already updated
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; (via my that is triggered via ftp-release-list). However, I do expect
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; various submission failures, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Updated list of packages which are hosted on 'ftp.gnome.org':
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Submitting now in the order specified by &quot;jhbuild list&quot; (to avoid any
+</I>&gt;<i> dependency problems). I'm using mgaqueue.sh. Never used that before, so
+</I>&gt;<i> let's see :)
+</I>
+All modules have been submitted. A few failed, if someone could look at
+those? The easy failures I tried to fix. I'll also try and look at them
+tomorrow, but likely need help.
+
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+Also enhanced my mga-gnome script to:
+1. Allow limiting the modules (to just GNOME Core+Apps)
+2. Allow sorting the 'still to be built' according to predefined order
+
+GNOME has &quot;jhbuild&quot;, this has a list subcommand which gives you the
+order in which packages need to be built. That output can be used by
+mga-gnome to limit it to GNOME Core&amp;Apps  + sort it according to
+jhbuild.
+
+meaning:
+  mga-gnome -l ~/.packages packages --sort ~/.packages --diff --version
+
+ -l     limits it to just the upstream names from a file
+ --sort sorts it according to where in the file the upstream name
+        appears
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+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+and choose 'custom', then deselected everything, pressed next
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+i got to the next menu of installation and left these to default:
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+ - basic doc still on
+ - truly minimal was off
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+afaict dracut seems to require plymouth, and mageia-gfxboot-theme seems to be 
+there no matter what option i choose from the summary, it seems it was already 
+installed before the summary.
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+thing is, without a full kickstart (which i don't want to, i'd like to keep 
+doing partitioning manually, but kickstart seems not to do the interactive 
+requests), i can't really make a minimal system to begin with...
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+for this release, if at all possible, i'd still like to get a bit smaller for 
+minimal setups, and like to present a nongraphic grub by default when X is 
+unselected, and also have no need for gfxboot or plymouth when i don't have a 
+graphic grub (even though this isn't the same)
+
+furthermore, if i'm installing without X the default runlevel target seems to 
+still be the graphic one, and not the multi-user one...
+
+perhaps it's possible to have this as alternatives or something? which could 
+be set by the CAT_X thingie? one installing one package and the other 
+installing the other package?
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+    <B>Funda Wang</B> 
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+<PRE>Errr, you may want to submit thunderbird-l10n also.
+&#22312; 2012-3-22 &#19978;&#21320;6:46&#65292;&quot;nicolas vigier&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;&#20889;&#36947;&#65306;
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 21/03/2012 23:02, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Wed, 21 Mar 2012, Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Am 17.03.2012 17:41, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; could somebody please push thunderbird 10.0.3esr
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and thunderbird-l10n to cauldron? Thanks in advance.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Ping?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Can you explain why push is needed ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; What version we have now, and why we need a new version.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; same as in the 1 ... bug and security fix
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Submitted.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> Name        : java-1.6.0-openjdk           Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version     : 1.6.0.0                           Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release     : 24.b24.12.mga2                Build Date: Tue Mar 20 22:51:34 2012
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+Please don't forget that Mandriva updated this in a security update for 2010.2 and changed the first 
+&quot;24&quot; in the Release string to a &quot;26&quot; which makes our package not update theirs, so this needs to be 
+fixed in Mageia 1, and because of that, in Mageia 2 as well.  More info is in bugzilla:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4563">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4563</A>
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+&gt;<i> Le 17/03/2012 03:22, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hence I suggest a single user id to be used. (I'm fine with any other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> solution which works as well)
+</I>&gt;<i> My main concern is the fuzziness of the current situation where we have
+</I>&gt;<i> - one virtual package 'webserver' corresponding to four implementations 
+</I>&gt;<i> (apache, lightpd, nginx, cherooke)
+</I>&gt;<i> - one common base (webserver-base) only used by the two first ones
+</I>&gt;<i> - all our web applications packages using 'apache' as mandatory dependency
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If the main concern is file ownership, I'd propose for the next release 
+</I>&gt;<i> to have each of these servers use a distinct uid, document root and 
+</I>&gt;<i> index page, but use a shared 'webserver' or 'www' gid, and ensure all of 
+</I>&gt;<i> those applications use group-based permission, instead of user-based. 
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd find this setup a bit clearer.
+</I>
+I also noticed two of the php subpackages adding the apache user in %post.
+Should they be doing this, should they Requires(post): webserver-base, or
+should this be handled some other way?
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+&gt;<i> lm_sensors 3.3.2 just came out last week with this in the ChangeLog [1]:
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Change sysfs detection to survive upcoming kernel changes&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure if that means kernel 3.3 or newer, but just a heads up (mainly to tmb) that we might 
+</I>&gt;<i> need this.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> [1] - <A HREF="http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/tags/V3-3-2/CHANGES">http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/tags/V3-3-2/CHANGES</A>
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+Thomas, you're our kernel guru :o)  Did you make a determination about this one?
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+<PRE>On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 02:17:15 PM simple w8 wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/21 Claire Robinson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">eeeemail at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 21/03/12 15:25, simple w8 wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2012/3/21 Oliver Burger&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Am 21.03.2012 14:33, schrieb simple w8:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Today i have tried to package an updated wpa_supplicant (from git) and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; was not possible due to missing texlive features.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; make: *** [pdf] Error 9
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Is jadetex installed?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;  Yes
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This is probably related to bug 1538
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1538">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1538</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; jadetex is missing a require on texlive-texmf
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Try installing texlive-texmf and reinstalling jadetex.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Claire
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> All texlive packages are isntalled along with jadetex.
+</I>&gt;<i> For what i see there are missing apps from texlive, there are severall
+</I>&gt;<i> texlive packages, not just single source.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe texlive maintainer could check mandriva texlive packages and update
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia
+</I>
+Mandriva is very different, they divide the texlive package into about 1,500 
+packages.
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+Best regards
+Thomas Spuhler
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+    <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 03:54:15 AM Anne nicolas wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> We will have our meeting as usual. Topics will be all focused on
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 2 release. It would be nice to have triage team, QA and as many
+</I>&gt;<i> packagers as possible and especially the one in charge of main
+</I>&gt;<i> softwares (base system, KDE, GNOME...)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> - freeze push reminder and release freeze
+</I>&gt;<i> - bug tracking (release_blocker bugs)
+</I>&gt;<i> - security updates before final release
+</I>&gt;<i> - QA tests for upgrade
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>
+I am a packager, but I have never been able to attend any of the meetings 
+because they are conducted during a time I really need to be at work.
+ Well, it may not that important, but it helps team building.
+Could we consider to hold some of these meetings at a weekend?
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+-- 
+Best regards
+Thomas Spuhler
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+&gt;<i> But i think it would be better to have in diskdrake some option
+</I>&gt;<i> allowing the user to choose the cypher, since the default cypher used
+</I>&gt;<i> in cryptsetup and in other apps that support luks, is cbc, and this
+</I>&gt;<i> way diskdrake is putting it incompatible with remaning apps that
+</I>&gt;<i> support luks.
+</I>
+Agreed.  Go ahead and write a patch! :-)
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+Sorry, but my perl knowledge is very limited.  Looking through the
+code, I can usually figure out what it's doing,  I was able to
+create the patch that simply added the --cipher option to the existing
+code in diskdrake, but altering the dialog to add selection of which
+cipher to use, would probably take me a very long time.
+
+You should probably open an enhancement bug report, requesting the
+change, that can then be assigned to the diskdrake maintainer.
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+Btw, I had no idea that luks encryption was compatible with truecrypt.
+Thanks for that info.
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+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+    <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> 
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+    <I>Thu Mar 22 05:36:47 CET 2012</I>
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+I upgraded it in svn to 0.1.1 in Dec. 2011, but it either didn't build or I 
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+Could somebody push libpng12-1.2.48 into cauldron? It fixed a security
+problem CVE-2011-3045 (buffer overflow in png_inflate caused by
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Please push php-apacheaccessor
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I upgraded it in svn to 0.1.1 in Dec. 2011, but it either didn't build or I
+</I>&gt;<i> forgot to submit it.
+</I>
+i'm pretty sure the requirements for freeze pushes are also at least that you 
+must know it builds and works perfectly, on top of that it usually needs to be 
+only bugfixes, or due to client/server changes that it is required...
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+plz add more info to this request
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+&gt;<i> Errr, you may want to submit thunderbird-l10n also.
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+I forgot this one. Submitted now.
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
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+</I>&gt;<i> Could somebody push libpng12-1.2.48 into cauldron? It fixed a security
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+&gt;<i> i did a network install
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+</I>&gt;<i> and choose 'custom', then deselected everything, pressed next
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+</I>&gt;<i> i got to the next menu of installation and left these to default:
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+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- no X
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- no suggestions
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- basic doc still on
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- truly minimal was off
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but, i ended up with x libraries, fonts, etc...
+</I>
+note that having a couple x11 package is not installing x11.
+I've made the minimal install quite a lot smaller.
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+We still have issues with suggests that makes installation explodes.
+I've reports some bugs but maintainers just don't care.
+See eg: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4357">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4357</A> that got
+reaffected to me because the maintainer doesn't care about
+bloating the install
+This particular one isn't about minimal install but about gnome install
+but the underlying issue will bloats any minimal install + light desktop
++ _one_ gtk+ application.
+
+&gt;<i> thing is, without a full kickstart (which i don't want to, i'd like to keep
+</I>&gt;<i> doing partitioning manually, but kickstart seems not to do the interactive
+</I>&gt;<i> requests), i can't really make a minimal system to begin with...
+</I>
+you can still do a semi automatic install.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+    <I>Thu Mar 22 08:52:18 CET 2012</I>
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+Please let in mesa-8.0.2.
+It's a pure bug fixes only minor release that fixes support on newer
+intel cards.
+Here's the changelog:
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+    Bug 38720 - [SNB] Trine triggers a GPU hang
+    Bug 40059 - [SNB] hang in &quot;Amnesia: The Dark Descent&quot; demo
+    Bug 45216 - [SNB] GPU hang in OilRush
+    Bug 46631 - It's really hard to hit the fast path for the fallback
+glReadPixels code
+    Bug 46679 - glReadPixels on a luminance texture returns the wrong values
+    Bug 46311 - Missing support of point size in Mesa core
+    Bug 46665 - [PNV] webgl conformance case max texture fails
+    Bug 45975 - [Gen4 + ILK] render with pointcoord will fail to render
+    Bug 46666 - [PNV] webgl conformance case NPOT case fails with
+TEXTURE_MIN_FILTER set to LINEAR
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+&gt;<i> On 22 March 2012 00:30, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i did a network install
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and choose 'custom', then deselected everything, pressed next
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i got to the next menu of installation and left these to default:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- no X
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- no suggestions
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- basic doc still on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- truly minimal was off
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but, i ended up with x libraries, fonts, etc...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> note that having a couple x11 package is not installing x11.
+</I>&gt;<i> I've made the minimal install quite a lot smaller.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We still have issues with suggests that makes installation explodes.
+</I>&gt;<i> I've reports some bugs but maintainers just don't care.
+</I>&gt;<i> See eg: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4357">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4357</A> that got
+</I>&gt;<i> reaffected to me because the maintainer doesn't care about
+</I>&gt;<i> bloating the install
+</I>&gt;<i> This particular one isn't about minimal install but about gnome install
+</I>&gt;<i> but the underlying issue will bloats any minimal install + light desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> + _one_ gtk+ application.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Both gnome-keyring and task-gnome are maintained by nobody, could you
+modify the spec and close the bug?
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+&gt;<i> Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 17/03/2012 03:22, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hence I suggest a single user id to be used. (I'm fine with any other
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> solution which works as well)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My main concern is the fuzziness of the current situation where we have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - one virtual package 'webserver' corresponding to four implementations
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (apache, lightpd, nginx, cherooke)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - one common base (webserver-base) only used by the two first ones
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - all our web applications packages using 'apache' as mandatory dependency
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If the main concern is file ownership, I'd propose for the next release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to have each of these servers use a distinct uid, document root and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> index page, but use a shared 'webserver' or 'www' gid, and ensure all of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> those applications use group-based permission, instead of user-based.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'd find this setup a bit clearer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I also noticed two of the php subpackages adding the apache user in %post.
+</I>&gt;<i> Should they be doing this, should they Requires(post): webserver-base, or
+</I>&gt;<i> should this be handled some other way?
+</I>Sure, that's wrong.
+
+Either they need apache itself, in this case this dependency is already 
+ensured. Either they can be used without a web server, in this case they 
+shouldn't use apache server anyway.
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+-- 
+BOFH excuse #161:
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+monitor VLF leakage
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 08:40:14AM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> We still have issues with suggests that makes installation explodes.
+</I>&gt;<i> I've reports some bugs but maintainers just don't care.
+</I>&gt;<i> See eg: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4357">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4357</A> that got
+</I>&gt;<i> reaffected to me because the maintainer doesn't care about
+</I>&gt;<i> bloating the install
+</I>
+If your comment starts off with a:
+&quot;You're playing with words here, task-gnome can be replaced by&quot;
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+while my intention is well meaning and not &quot;playing with words&quot;, then I
+my first thought is not anywhere near constructive.
+
+The bugreport was opened about KDE. I gave a solution for KDE. Instead I
+get accusations about playing with words. I care about GNOME and giving
+a full experience. If people want a more minimal install to the
+detriment of GNOME, then I don't like it.
+
+I have 0 interest in getting more accusations about &quot;doesn't care&quot;. I
+gave up maintainership because of the tone, allowing you to do whatever.
+That this is still not good enough, blergh!
+
+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+so at first we're doing an rsync, but we need to do it on a network disk.
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+however, statd wasn't there and it complained that it needed that for locking
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+atm we're doing -o nolock and that works... but... statd would be quite
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+<PRE>2012/3/22 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> I care about GNOME and giving
+</I>&gt;<i> a full experience. If people want a more minimal install to the
+</I>&gt;<i> detriment of GNOME, then I don't like it.
+</I>
+Well, no comment on the other parts of the mail, but:
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+Despite your commitment to Gnome, isn't this for the user to select
+what he wants? If he wants a minimal installation, knowing that he may
+not get the full Gnome experience, isn't that for him to decide
+instead of being forced to pack things on his machine he does not care
+for, whether you like it or not?
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 22 March 2012 09:49, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> If your comment starts off with a:
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;You're playing with words here, task-gnome can be replaced by&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> while my intention is well meaning and not &quot;playing with words&quot;, then I
+</I>&gt;<i> my first thought is not anywhere near constructive.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The bugreport was opened about KDE. I gave a solution for KDE. Instead I
+</I>&gt;<i> get accusations about playing with words. I care about GNOME and giving
+</I>&gt;<i> a full experience. If people want a more minimal install to the
+</I>&gt;<i> detriment of GNOME, then I don't like it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have 0 interest in getting more accusations about &quot;doesn't care&quot;. I
+</I>&gt;<i> gave up maintainership because of the tone, allowing you to do whatever.
+</I>&gt;<i> That this is still not good enough, blergh!
+</I>
+My phrasing wasn't the best one, I can agree with that.
+But you did closed the bug as WONTFIX b/c I wrote &quot;task-gnome&quot; instead
+of &quot;task-gnome-minimal&quot;.
+I think you can admit this wasn't fair, can't you?
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+<PRE>On 22 March 2012 09:31, You-Cheng Hsieh &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yochenhsieh at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> note that having a couple x11 package is not installing x11.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've made the minimal install quite a lot smaller.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We still have issues with suggests that makes installation explodes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've reports some bugs but maintainers just don't care.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See eg: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4357">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4357</A> that got
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reaffected to me because the maintainer doesn't care about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bloating the install
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This particular one isn't about minimal install but about gnome install
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but the underlying issue will bloats any minimal install + light desktop
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + _one_ gtk+ application.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Both gnome-keyring and task-gnome are maintained by nobody, could you
+</I>&gt;<i> modify the spec and close the bug?
+</I>
+I've made quite some changes for mga2 in order to bring minimal
+install under control.
+But that can't work in the long term.
+I'ven't enough time &amp; I cannot do it alone.
+I did it twice back @mdv and yet people keep introduced new interesting
+ways to bloat again.
+
+I don't want to imply Olav did it. But he's packager of one of the offending
+packages, and so inherited part of mdv heritage.
+So I wrote a bug about it in order to pull maintainers in.
+
+Every packager should be made aware of Implications of:
+- suggests
+- library requiring the tools they were created for
+
+It's easy to add a suggest (&quot;hey it'll just make the user experience better&quot;),
+but eventually the suggested package can start a cycles that will pull
+quite a lot more packages.
+
+See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4357#c5">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4357#c5</A>
+systemd was initially pulling:
+- the whole gtk+ stack,
+- openldap,
+- avahi,
+- gamin,
+- fuse,
+- colord,
+- gnome-keyring,
+- seahorse,
+- dirmngr
+- python
+
+And none of it (but python) has actually to do with systemd.
+It was just that required library actually suggest or requires another one
+which also suggested or required ...
+
+Everyone should be concerned about that.
+
+I've broke some requires/suggest cycles, but I cannot do it alone,
+everyone should contribute (and also should try not to introduce
+new ones)
+
+I think that some of those &quot;comfort&quot; suggests should be moved
+from some low level library or tool package to task-&lt;desktop&gt;
+packages.
+
+Thus no I won't fix every issue.
+People have to test install and have to get interested in reducing
+size of install.
+This is not a personal attack against Olav that does a good job.
+That means for everyone to get in the implications of requires &amp;
+suggests.
+Not looking only at that particular package but at the global view,
+the installed system.
+
+Not all suggests will bloat installing from DVD as some won't make
+it into the DVD image. But some will b/c they're required by other
+packages and thus will succeed in being suggested.
+
+Minimal install won't be as perfect as installing basesystem with urpmi
+because of installer also pulling packages needed for HW (eg: LVM,
+SMP, bluetooth, ...)
+
+At least for mga2, it's has been reduced.
+But it could be more.
+
+Also installing a desktop (GNOME &amp; KDE) is huge these days.
+Something should be made about it.
+Maybe splitting task-{gnome,kde}-networking and the like and moving
+them under CAT_NETWORK, CAT_OFFICE, CAT_GAMES, CAT_INTERNET,
+CAT_MULTIMEDIA and the like in rpmsrate.
+
+But this is the job of everyone.
+Not just me.
+
+My 2 cents
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+<PRE>2012/3/22 Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 22 March 2012 09:31, You-Cheng Hsieh &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yochenhsieh at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> note that having a couple x11 package is not installing x11.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I've made the minimal install quite a lot smaller.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We still have issues with suggests that makes installation explodes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I've reports some bugs but maintainers just don't care.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> See eg: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4357">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4357</A> that got
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reaffected to me because the maintainer doesn't care about
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bloating the install
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This particular one isn't about minimal install but about gnome install
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but the underlying issue will bloats any minimal install + light desktop
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + _one_ gtk+ application.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Both gnome-keyring and task-gnome are maintained by nobody, could you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> modify the spec and close the bug?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've made quite some changes for mga2 in order to bring minimal
+</I>&gt;<i> install under control.
+</I>&gt;<i> But that can't work in the long term.
+</I>&gt;<i> I'ven't enough time &amp; I cannot do it alone.
+</I>&gt;<i> I did it twice back @mdv and yet people keep introduced new interesting
+</I>&gt;<i> ways to bloat again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't want to imply Olav did it. But he's packager of one of the offending
+</I>&gt;<i> packages, and so inherited part of mdv heritage.
+</I>&gt;<i> So I wrote a bug about it in order to pull maintainers in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Every packager should be made aware of Implications of:
+</I>&gt;<i> - suggests
+</I>&gt;<i> - library requiring the tools they were created for
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's easy to add a suggest (&quot;hey it'll just make the user experience better&quot;),
+</I>&gt;<i> but eventually the suggested package can start a cycles that will pull
+</I>&gt;<i> quite a lot more packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4357#c5">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4357#c5</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd was initially pulling:
+</I>&gt;<i> - the whole gtk+ stack,
+</I>&gt;<i> - openldap,
+</I>&gt;<i> - avahi,
+</I>&gt;<i> - gamin,
+</I>&gt;<i> - fuse,
+</I>&gt;<i> - colord,
+</I>&gt;<i> - gnome-keyring,
+</I>&gt;<i> - seahorse,
+</I>&gt;<i> - dirmngr
+</I>&gt;<i> - python
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And none of it (but python) has actually to do with systemd.
+</I>&gt;<i> It was just that required library actually suggest or requires another one
+</I>&gt;<i> which also suggested or required ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Everyone should be concerned about that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've broke some requires/suggest cycles, but I cannot do it alone,
+</I>&gt;<i> everyone should contribute (and also should try not to introduce
+</I>&gt;<i> new ones)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that some of those &quot;comfort&quot; suggests should be moved
+</I>&gt;<i> from some low level library or tool package to task-&lt;desktop&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thus no I won't fix every issue.
+</I>&gt;<i> People have to test install and have to get interested in reducing
+</I>&gt;<i> size of install.
+</I>&gt;<i> This is not a personal attack against Olav that does a good job.
+</I>&gt;<i> That means for everyone to get in the implications of requires &amp;
+</I>&gt;<i> suggests.
+</I>&gt;<i> Not looking only at that particular package but at the global view,
+</I>&gt;<i> the installed system.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not all suggests will bloat installing from DVD as some won't make
+</I>&gt;<i> it into the DVD image. But some will b/c they're required by other
+</I>&gt;<i> packages and thus will succeed in being suggested.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Minimal install won't be as perfect as installing basesystem with urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> because of installer also pulling packages needed for HW (eg: LVM,
+</I>&gt;<i> SMP, bluetooth, ...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At least for mga2, it's has been reduced.
+</I>&gt;<i> But it could be more.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also installing a desktop (GNOME &amp; KDE) is huge these days.
+</I>&gt;<i> Something should be made about it.
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe splitting task-{gnome,kde}-networking and the like and moving
+</I>&gt;<i> them under CAT_NETWORK, CAT_OFFICE, CAT_GAMES, CAT_INTERNET,
+</I>&gt;<i> CAT_MULTIMEDIA and the like in rpmsrate.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But this is the job of everyone.
+</I>&gt;<i> Not just me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My 2 cents
+</I>
+Thanks for your proposal. But anyway this is for Mageia 3. Could we
+please calm down and focus again on coming release? We do have work
+enough for everybody :)
+
+Cheers
+
+-- 
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 10:31:04AM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 22 March 2012 09:49, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If your comment starts off with a:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;You're playing with words here, task-gnome can be replaced by&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; while my intention is well meaning and not &quot;playing with words&quot;, then I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; my first thought is not anywhere near constructive.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The bugreport was opened about KDE. I gave a solution for KDE. Instead I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; get accusations about playing with words. I care about GNOME and giving
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; a full experience. If people want a more minimal install to the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; detriment of GNOME, then I don't like it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have 0 interest in getting more accusations about &quot;doesn't care&quot;. I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; gave up maintainership because of the tone, allowing you to do whatever.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That this is still not good enough, blergh!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> My phrasing wasn't the best one, I can agree with that.
+</I>&gt;<i> But you did closed the bug as WONTFIX b/c I wrote &quot;task-gnome&quot; instead
+</I>&gt;<i> of &quot;task-gnome-minimal&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> I think you can admit this wasn't fair, can't you?
+</I>
+I already closed it before your comment about task-gnome. The comment
+you gave before (comment 3) was only about why it was added
+historically. You even quoted the original reason for adding it:
+|<i> without Seahorse, there's no way to manage your gnome-keyring passwords
+</I>
+The bug was raised because of KDE, I was looking at it from that point
+of view. You care about a minimal install, but that was not what the bug
+was reported for nor what I was thinking about.
+
+I closed it with because to me, if you don't want GNOME things in KDE,
+then don't put GNOME things in CAT_KDE. And &quot;totem-mozilla&quot; is to me a
+GNOME thing, not GTK thing. The WONTFIX is because for this specific
+bugreport (KDE install having GNOME stuff), the problem is
+&quot;totem-mozilla&quot; in KDE.
+
+That this suggests also has an affects the minimal install, ok, but the
+dependency was added (according to your comment) 1.5 years ago. So if
+this dependency was ok 1.5 years ago, why not now? (read on before
+replying please:)
+Now if in those 1.5 years things changed (dependency changes, etc) and
+this dependency now suddenly affects the minimal install, then yeah, I
+think moving the suggests somewhere else makes sense.
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+But I didn't close it because of the minimal install. Only because of
+looking at what it was filed for: KDE dependency problems.
+
+Every time I touch task-gnome-minimal there is a huge discussion that
+the change is somehow bad/imperfect/something. I don't like that. I mean
+well and if task-gnome-minimal causes loads of complaints, then anything
+related to it I rather avoid.
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+Regards,
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/22 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I care about GNOME and giving
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a full experience. If people want a more minimal install to the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> detriment of GNOME, then I don't like it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, no comment on the other parts of the mail, but:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Despite your commitment to Gnome, isn't this for the user to select
+</I>&gt;<i> what he wants?
+</I>
+Please, don't mix up things. That bug is about a *SUGGESTS* not a
+requires, it is also not part of task-gnome itself, but of
+gnome-keyring.
+
+It is perfectly reasonable to have a suggests on seahorse from
+gnome-keyring. It is the only sane thing to do I'd like to add.
+
+totem (and even more so its mozilla plugin) tearing in all this is the
+bug. Don't blame Olav here.
+
+&gt;<i> If he wants a minimal installation, knowing that he may
+</I>&gt;<i> not get the full Gnome experience, isn't that for him to decide
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of being forced to pack things on his machine he does not care
+</I>&gt;<i> for, whether you like it or not?
+</I>
+A suggested package is not forced on anybody.
+
+ciao
+Christian
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 22 March 2012 09:31, You-Cheng Hsieh &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yochenhsieh at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's easy to add a suggest (&quot;hey it'll just make the user experience better&quot;),
+</I>&gt;<i> but eventually the suggested package can start a cycles that will pull
+</I>&gt;<i> quite a lot more packages.
+</I>
+This is a lame excuse, really.
+What you are actually saying is that rpmdrake sucks because it doesn't
+distinguish between required and suggested packages and doesn't let
+the user choose.
+
+The topic started off with a user using minimal installation without
+suggested packages - just to remind you of that.
+
+&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> And none of it (but python) has actually to do with systemd.
+</I>&gt;<i> It was just that required library actually suggest or requires another one
+</I>&gt;<i> which also suggested or required ...
+</I>
+Don't mix up suggests with requires in this matter please.
+
+&gt;<i> Everyone should be concerned about that.
+</I>
+Yes, but don't force crippling of package's interdependencies/suggests
+because one part of the tooling ignores the difference between
+requires and suggests.
+
+&gt;<i> I think that some of those &quot;comfort&quot; suggests should be moved
+</I>&gt;<i> from some low level library or tool package to task-&lt;desktop&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> packages.
+</I>
+I completely disagree.
+
+Give the user control of the suggested packages, highlight stuff that
+is suggested and what is required.
+
+ciao
+Christian
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/22 Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please let in mesa-8.0.2.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's a pure bug fixes only minor release that fixes support on newer
+</I>&gt;<i> intel cards.
+</I>&gt;<i> Here's the changelog:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;Bug 38720 - [SNB] Trine triggers a GPU hang
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;Bug 40059 - [SNB] hang in &quot;Amnesia: The Dark Descent&quot; demo
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;Bug 45216 - [SNB] GPU hang in OilRush
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;Bug 46631 - It's really hard to hit the fast path for the fallback
+</I>&gt;<i> glReadPixels code
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;Bug 46679 - glReadPixels on a luminance texture returns the wrong values
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;Bug 46311 - Missing support of point size in Mesa core
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;Bug 46665 - [PNV] webgl conformance case max texture fails
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;Bug 45975 - [Gen4 + ILK] render with pointcoord will fail to render
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;Bug 46666 - [PNV] webgl conformance case NPOT case fails with
+</I>&gt;<i> TEXTURE_MIN_FILTER set to LINEAR
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See you
+</I>
+submitted by boklm
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+-- 
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+<PRE>On 22.03.2012 10:48, Anne nicolas wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/22 Thierry Vignaud&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 22 March 2012 09:31, You-Cheng Hsieh&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yochenhsieh at gmail.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> note that having a couple x11 package is not installing x11.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I've made the minimal install quite a lot smaller.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We still have issues with suggests that makes installation explodes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I've reports some bugs but maintainers just don't care.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> See eg: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4357">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4357</A> that got
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reaffected to me because the maintainer doesn't care about
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bloating the install
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This particular one isn't about minimal install but about gnome install
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but the underlying issue will bloats any minimal install + light desktop
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + _one_ gtk+ application.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Both gnome-keyring and task-gnome are maintained by nobody, could you
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> modify the spec and close the bug?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've made quite some changes for mga2 in order to bring minimal
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> install under control.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But that can't work in the long term.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'ven't enough time&amp;  I cannot do it alone.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I did it twice back @mdv and yet people keep introduced new interesting
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ways to bloat again.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't want to imply Olav did it. But he's packager of one of the offending
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages, and so inherited part of mdv heritage.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So I wrote a bug about it in order to pull maintainers in.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Every packager should be made aware of Implications of:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - suggests
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - library requiring the tools they were created for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's easy to add a suggest (&quot;hey it'll just make the user experience better&quot;),
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but eventually the suggested package can start a cycles that will pull
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> quite a lot more packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4357#c5">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4357#c5</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> systemd was initially pulling:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - the whole gtk+ stack,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - openldap,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - avahi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - gamin,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - fuse,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - colord,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - gnome-keyring,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - seahorse,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - dirmngr
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - python
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And none of it (but python) has actually to do with systemd.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It was just that required library actually suggest or requires another one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> which also suggested or required ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Everyone should be concerned about that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've broke some requires/suggest cycles, but I cannot do it alone,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> everyone should contribute (and also should try not to introduce
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> new ones)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think that some of those &quot;comfort&quot; suggests should be moved
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from some low level library or tool package to task-&lt;desktop&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thus no I won't fix every issue.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> People have to test install and have to get interested in reducing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> size of install.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is not a personal attack against Olav that does a good job.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That means for everyone to get in the implications of requires&amp;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> suggests.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Not looking only at that particular package but at the global view,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the installed system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Not all suggests will bloat installing from DVD as some won't make
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it into the DVD image. But some will b/c they're required by other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages and thus will succeed in being suggested.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Minimal install won't be as perfect as installing basesystem with urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> because of installer also pulling packages needed for HW (eg: LVM,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> SMP, bluetooth, ...)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> At least for mga2, it's has been reduced.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But it could be more.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also installing a desktop (GNOME&amp;  KDE) is huge these days.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Something should be made about it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe splitting task-{gnome,kde}-networking and the like and moving
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> them under CAT_NETWORK, CAT_OFFICE, CAT_GAMES, CAT_INTERNET,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> CAT_MULTIMEDIA and the like in rpmsrate.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But this is the job of everyone.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Not just me.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My 2 cents
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks for your proposal. But anyway this is for Mageia 3. Could we
+</I>&gt;<i> please calm down and focus again on coming release? We do have work
+</I>&gt;<i> enough for everybody :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Yes, I completely agree.
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+This is a key value for the quality of distro. We can't force everyone 
+to use in the most minimal setup for example rmt (&quot;Provides certain 
+programs with access to remote tape devices.&quot;) as a requirement of cpio 
+and so rpm! or sound scripts as a requirement of init-scripts...
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+I have got a remote server and I really don't want to be forced to have 
+full sound support, themed boolloader and rmt support on that computer.
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+This is a goal for Mga3, I have in mind some tools to help resolving the 
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 20120322-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 225670
+</I>&gt;<i> - add new firmwares:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;* PITCAIRN, TAHITI, VERDE (Southern Islands / HD7xxx)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;* ARUBA (trinity APU)
+</I>
+That's useless unless we backport kernel &amp; x11-driver-video-ati support
+Do you plan to do so?
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+&gt;<i> On 22 March 2012 12:39, tmb&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tmb&lt;tmb&gt;  20120322-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 225670
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - add new firmwares:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   * PITCAIRN, TAHITI, VERDE (Southern Islands / HD7xxx)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   * ARUBA (trinity APU)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's useless unless we backport kernel&amp;  x11-driver-video-ati support
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you plan to do so?
+</I>
+Yep. That's the idea.
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+    <B>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/21 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:47:16AM +0200, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Anne nicolas skrev 21.3.2012 10:23:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;2012/3/19 Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;    Please see thread from earlier today on this topic.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;    
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;    If needed I can do the complicated job of cherry picking most of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;    patches instead if the version bump scares people :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;I must say I miss here some knowledge to take this decision and I'd
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;like some other opinions on this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Reading the changes in git, I see enough fixes that I also think we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; need, so I'd say lets push it as it would otherwise be mostly a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; systemd v44 disguised as a v43  with a lot of patches.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Agree. Only possible problem is enforcement of UTF-8 in configuration
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; files. I don't think that'll cause problems and even if so, easily
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; fixed.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> ok thanks for your comments. Colin be prepared to fix any problem :)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Olav
+</I>
+I dont know if this is usefull for you, 
+Mar 21 21:09:09 1000 systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/ntop.service:23] 
+Assignment outside of section. Ignoring.
+Mar 21 21:09:09 1000 systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/ntop.service:24] 
+Assignment outside of section. Ignoring.
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+I dont have a very common configuration, in fact this is an appliance, i do 
+connections using ttyS0 and pts (by ssh).  Also look i dont have common 
+hostname
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Banshee 2.4.0 contains a security fix. I tried to include just the
+</I>&gt;<i> patch, but failed to build it and in the meantime 2.4.0 was released.
+</I>
+I have the ability to submit, but that is just for GNOME, and Banshee is
+not part of GNOME Core/Apps.
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> I've made quite some changes for mga2 in order to bring minimal
+</I>&gt;<i> install under control.
+</I>&gt;<i> But that can't work in the long term.
+</I>
+Let's ignore all the other stuff and focus on how to solve it.
+
+I'm willing to assist when there are too big dependency chains. But, I
+don't get why in a minimal install it installs &quot;Suggests:&quot;? I can
+understand that it takes space on the DVD. But in a minimal install it
+should ignore the Suggests, no?
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+I think we should have something which tracks these things
+automatically.
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+- a way to see the dependency chains over time
+  (e.g. something which logs it per day)
+- a way to see the size of various &quot;targets&quot; over time
+  (e.g. KDE, GNOME, XFCE, minimal)
+- an email when the size changes compared to previous day
+  (e.g. new dependency, or maybe 100MB of documentation in some package)
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+Olav
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz at 22/03/12 12:50 did gyre
+and gimble:
+&gt;<i> I dont know if this is usefull for you, 
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 21 21:09:09 1000 systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/ntop.service:23] 
+</I>&gt;<i> Assignment outside of section. Ignoring.
+</I>&gt;<i> Mar 21 21:09:09 1000 systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/ntop.service:24] 
+</I>&gt;<i> Assignment outside of section. Ignoring.
+</I>
+Yup, this is just reporting that the ntop.service file has invalid syntax.
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+I'll add it to my todo list.
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+Col
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> Le 22/03/2012 14:38, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Helo
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Please push libnetfilter_queue, it updates from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; LD
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Reasons...
+</I>
+I'm not a kernel developer, here it is the changelog
+<A HREF="https://git.netfilter.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=libnetfilter_queue.git;a=shortlog">https://git.netfilter.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=libnetfilter_queue.git;a=shortlog</A>
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+There are more than 18 months of difference between 1.0.0 and 1.0.1, I guess 
+since this is a kernel matter, 18 months ago we were using 2.6, now 3.3.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 22/03/12 13:48 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz at 22/03/12 12:50 did gyre
+</I>&gt;<i> and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I dont know if this is usefull for you, 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 21 21:09:09 1000 systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/ntop.service:23] 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Assignment outside of section. Ignoring.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mar 21 21:09:09 1000 systemd[1]: [/lib/systemd/system/ntop.service:24] 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Assignment outside of section. Ignoring.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Yup, this is just reporting that the ntop.service file has invalid syntax.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll add it to my todo list.
+</I>
+Actually it was just a typo in the spec file that installed the
+initscript as the systemd unit which is certainly not going to work!
+
+I've replaced it with the real unit file now. Hopefully all fixed in the
+next version of ntop.
+
+Col
+
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+<PRE>I have been experiencing a sporadic KWin segfault crash - it can not be
+forced and happens very rarely.  When it does happen, I can not access
+the KDE panel anymore, but the desktop continues to work.  The only
+resolve it to logout and restart KDE -
+
+Here is the backtrace:
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+KDE Application: KWin (kwin), signal: Segmentation fault
+Using host libthread_db library &quot;/lib64/libthread_db.so.1&quot;.
+[Current thread is 1 (Thread 0x7feeb5682740 (LWP 4822))]
+
+Thread 2 (Thread 0x7fee92c90700 (LWP 4827)):
+#0  0x00007feeb0253594 in pthread_cond_wait@@GLIBC_2.3.2 ()
+from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
+#1  0x00007feeb1952bd2 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libQtScript.so.4
+#2  0x00007feeb1952c09 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libQtScript.so.4
+#3  0x00007feeb10fd354 in ?? ()
+from /usr/lib64/nvidia-current/libGL.so.1
+#4  0x00007feeb024fb99 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
+#5  0x00007feeb4ec30cd in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6
+#6  0x0000000000000000 in ?? ()
+
+Thread 1 (Thread 0x7feeb5682740 (LWP 4822)):
+[KCrash Handler]
+#6  0x00007fee982cd285 in ?? ()
+from /usr/lib64/kde4/kwin4_effect_builtins.so
+#7  0x00007feeb5246878 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_kwin.so
+#8  0x00007feeb5246878 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_kwin.so
+#9  0x00007feeb522583e in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_kwin.so
+#10 0x00007feeb523befd in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_kwin.so
+#11 0x00007feeb521fbac in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_kwin.so
+#12 0x00007feeb05f5a59 in QObject::event(QEvent*) ()
+from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
+#13 0x00007feeaf74fb84 in QApplicationPrivate::notify_helper(QObject*,
+QEvent*) () from /usr/lib64/libQtGui.so.4
+#14 0x00007feeaf754a03 in QApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
+from /usr/lib64/libQtGui.so.4
+#15 0x00007feeb492c9c6 in KApplication::notify(QObject*, QEvent*) ()
+from /usr/lib64/libkdeui.so.5
+#16 0x00007feeb05dce7c in QCoreApplication::notifyInternal(QObject*,
+QEvent*) () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
+#17 0x00007feeb060d9c2 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
+#18 0x00007feeb060e4a4 in
+QEventDispatcherUNIX::processEvents(QFlags&lt;QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag&gt;) () from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
+#19 0x00007feeaf7f3868 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libQtGui.so.4
+#20 0x00007feeb05dbc62 in
+QEventLoop::processEvents(QFlags&lt;QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag&gt;) ()
+from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
+#21 0x00007feeb05dbeb7 in
+QEventLoop::exec(QFlags&lt;QEventLoop::ProcessEventsFlag&gt;) ()
+from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
+#22 0x00007feeb05e09a5 in QCoreApplication::exec() ()
+from /usr/lib64/libQtCore.so.4
+#23 0x00007feeb51d5416 in kdemain () from /usr/lib64/libkdeinit4_kwin.so
+#24 0x00007feeb4e0a32d in __libc_start_main () from /lib64/libc.so.6
+#25 0x0000000000400671 in _start ()
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+Should I file a bug??
+
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+Thx,
+R.Fox
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 22 March 2012 15:28, Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Should I file a bug??
+</I>
+Yes. Instead of posting here.
+But install first the needed debug packages (at least glibc-debug,
+qt4-debug, kde*-debug)
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+    <B>Manuel Hiebel</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 22/03/2012 15:28, Robert Fox a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I have been experiencing a sporadic KWin segfault crash - it can not be
+</I>&gt;<i> forced and happens very rarely.  When it does happen, I can not access
+</I>&gt;<i> the KDE panel anymore, but the desktop continues to work.  The only
+</I>&gt;<i> resolve it to logout and restart KDE -
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here is the backtrace:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Should I file a bug??
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>With a quick query:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4600">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4600</A>
+
+so feel free to help
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thx,
+</I>&gt;<i> R.Fox
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> I have been experiencing a sporadic KWin segfault crash - it can not be
+</I>&gt;<i> forced and happens very rarely. &#160;When it does happen, I can not access
+</I>&gt;<i> the KDE panel anymore, but the desktop continues to work. &#160;The only
+</I>&gt;<i> resolve it to logout and restart KDE -
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here is the backtrace:
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> Should I file a bug??
+</I>You should install -debug packages &amp; reported a bug with a way to
+reproduce it (plasmoid installed/effects enabled etc etc )
+&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> Le 22/03/2012 15:28, Robert Fox a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have been experiencing a sporadic KWin segfault crash - it can not be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> forced and happens very rarely. &#160;When it does happen, I can not access
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the KDE panel anymore, but the desktop continues to work. &#160;The only
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> resolve it to logout and restart KDE -
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here is the backtrace:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Should I file a bug??
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With a quick query:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4600">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4600</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so feel free to help
+</I>I'm not sure it's the same crash.
+
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+&gt;<i> But in a minimal install it
+</I>&gt;<i> should ignore the Suggests, no?
+</I>
+By default urpmi install suggests, so if they are available they're
+going to be installed.
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+&gt;<i> I think we should have something which tracks these things
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Meaning:
+</I>&gt;<i> - a way to see the dependency chains over time
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;(e.g. something which logs it per day)
+</I>&gt;<i> - a way to see the size of various &quot;targets&quot; over time
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;(e.g. KDE, GNOME, XFCE, minimal)
+</I>&gt;<i> - an email when the size changes compared to previous day
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;(e.g. new dependency, or maybe 100MB of documentation in some package)
+</I>Luc did a similar work regarding that between mga1 &amp; mga2 focus indeed
+on  kde (package &amp; size), there's a bug report on it (but i don't
+remember the number immediatly.
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+    <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> 
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 22 mars 2012 16:01:22, John Balcaen a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/22 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But in a minimal install it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; should ignore the Suggests, no?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> By default urpmi install suggests, so if they are available they're
+</I>&gt;<i> going to be installed.
+</I>
+I don't understand why you are saying this John. It's not really hard to add 
+a &quot;minimal install&quot; option that makes urpmi use the --no-suggests switch.
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+It doesn't prevent from being careful with deps, but I agree with Olav : a 
+minimal install should ignore Suggests.
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 22 mars 2012 16:05:09, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 22 mars 2012 16:01:22, John Balcaen a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2012/3/22 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; But in a minimal install it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; should ignore the Suggests, no?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; By default urpmi install suggests, so if they are available they're
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; going to be installed.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't understand why you are saying this John. It's not really hard to
+</I>&gt;<i> add a &quot;minimal install&quot; option that makes urpmi use the --no-suggests
+</I>&gt;<i> switch.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
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+&gt;<i> Hello!
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+</I>&gt;<i> Please push new drakx-installer-help 2.2
+</I>&gt;<i> - new version 2.2
+</I>&gt;<i> * add new images: note.png tip.png and warning.png
+</I>&gt;<i> * fix typo in README (thanks Simon Parsons)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And rebuild against new drakx-installer-help drakx-installer-stage2
+</I>Please do NOT push it at the moment, the added icons are wrong and shall 
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20New%20strings%20in%20drakx%20and%20urpmi%20-%20please%20do%20warn%20i18n&In-Reply-To=%3CCALK7e_P0nPyvFLO3179nN-%3Dg-WcVdKJsO2_ydsPF7atm%2Bzjacw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] New strings in drakx and urpmi - please do warn i18n">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com
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+    <I>Thu Mar 22 16:44:17 CET 2012</I>
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+I have again to ask to at least notify i18n upon string changes in our soft.
+Especially now, quite some time after i18n freeze, we NEED TO KNOW
+things like that.
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+We could of course wach all commits to svn and see for ourselves, but
+I don't have the time for that and I think most others don't as well.
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20New%20strings%20in%20drakx%20and%20urpmi%20-%20please%20do%20warn%0A%09i18n&In-Reply-To=%3C20120322160219.GE17243%40bkor.dhs.org%3E"
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+    <I>Thu Mar 22 17:02:19 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 04:44:17PM +0100, Oliver Burger wrote:
+&gt;<i> We could of course wach all commits to svn and see for ourselves, but
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't have the time for that and I think most others don't as well.
+</I>
+GNOME uses &quot;Damned Lies&quot; (<A HREF="http://l10n.gnome.org/">http://l10n.gnome.org/</A>) which notifies of
+string changes (you have to tell it that you're in &quot;string freeze&quot;).
+Perhaps Blue Sky idea to have something like that.
+
+I have no clue how &quot;Damned Lies&quot; itself. I do know that after each
+commit (anything on git.gnome.org) &quot;Damned Lies&quot; is informed; it then
+pulls the latest changes and somehow figures out that stuff changed. It
+then sends emails.
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+-- 
+Regards,
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20New%20strings%20in%20drakx%20and%20urpmi%20-%20please%20do%20warn%0A%09i18n&In-Reply-To=%3CCAONrEtZdxF3NMANVReCu17FqpT%3D6GUf3_9kn1d8b%3DzOn7JBMOA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+&gt;<i> I have again to ask to at least notify i18n upon string changes in our soft.
+</I>&gt;<i> Especially now, quite some time after i18n freeze, we NEED TO KNOW
+</I>&gt;<i> things like that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We could of course wach all commits to svn and see for ourselves, but
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't have the time for that and I think most others don't as well.
+</I>
+This should be automated which I cannot do anything for it.
+As for drakx, AFAIC it's actually the I18N people who pushed for the change.
+
+As for urpmi, I fixed a bug where a debug message wasn't displaying anything
+(once again a late mdv breakage)
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft?view=revision&amp;sortby=date&amp;revision=3639">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft?view=revision&amp;sortby=date&amp;revision=3639</A>
+
+I fixed it an restored the gratuitously removed call for translating.
+I've also immediately restored the lost translations from mdv:
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft?view=revision&amp;revision=3641">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft?view=revision&amp;revision=3641</A>
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+The other one is just for helping debugging issues when people reports
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 22 March 2012 13:20, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I'm willing to assist when there are too big dependency chains. But, I
+</I>&gt;<i> don't get why in a minimal install it installs &quot;Suggests:&quot;? I can
+</I>&gt;<i> understand that it takes space on the DVD.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> But in a minimal install it
+</I>&gt;<i> should ignore the Suggests, no?
+</I>
+This option is only available for really minimal install.
+But if you select anything else, you won't have the option.
+So suggests will be used.
+Eg: if you select just networking stuff.
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+And suggests are only half the issue.
+Requires hurt too, especially library-requiring-tools-that-requires...
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+See the infamous  systemd | initscripts &gt; lib64glib2.0_0 &gt;
+glib2.0-common &gt; libgio &gt; libgvfs &gt;
+libgnome-keyring &gt; gnome-keyring &gt; seahorse &gt; libgpg &gt; gnugpg &gt; dirmngr
++ gnome-keyring &gt; libgtk &gt; gtk+ &gt; colord &gt; libcolord
++ libgvfs &gt; libavahi &gt; avahi
++ libgio &gt; libfam &gt; libgamin &gt; gamin
++ libgio &gt; libfuse &gt; fuse
++seahore &gt; libldap &gt; openldap
+
+They're suggests here but they're also requires
+And having one gtk+ app can bring quite a lot of
+stuff here b/c of:
+- gvfs pulling avahi
+- gio pulling gamin, fuse, gnome-keyring, gnugpg, dirmngr, seahhorse, openldap
+- gtk+ pulling colord
+
+Whereas most gtk+ apps don't need any of that.
+And worse there're programs using glib for dbus (eg: systemd) but nothing
+else, yet we end wio gio,gvfs,gtk+ then daemons
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+Some of these should be moved at top of the stack and be required
+by task-foobar instead.
+Any single of those was bring without the intention to hurt but
+together they do hurt.
+
+In the old days we could do a minimal install under 80M, now 525Mb is fine.
+And those packages can have side effect : eg:
+- avahi can prevent network to work
+- too many &quot;useless&quot; services slow down the boot and makes mga looks
+  awful against other distros
+- ...
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+&gt;<i> I think we should have something which tracks these things
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically.
+</I>
++1
+But I've already asked for this once but got no answer.
+
+&gt;<i> Meaning:
+</I>&gt;<i> - a way to see the dependency chains over time
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;(e.g. something which logs it per day)
+</I>&gt;<i> - a way to see the size of various &quot;targets&quot; over time
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;(e.g. KDE, GNOME, XFCE, minimal)
+</I>&gt;<i> - an email when the size changes compared to previous day
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;(e.g. new dependency, or maybe 100MB of documentation in some package)
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+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 22 mars 2012 16:05:09, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le jeudi 22 mars 2012 16:01:22, John Balcaen a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/22 Olav Vitters&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But in a minimal install it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should ignore the Suggests, no?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> By default urpmi install suggests, so if they are available they're
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> going to be installed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't understand why you are saying this John. It's not really hard to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> add a &quot;minimal install&quot; option that makes urpmi use the --no-suggests
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> switch.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And before someone answers &quot;so provide a patch&quot;, it's not because I say &quot;not
+</I>&gt;<i> really hard&quot; that I'm telling anyone to do it, including myself. I'm just
+</I>&gt;<i> stating how I think it should be.
+</I>
+Installer already have a option to select &quot;do not install suggests&quot;
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 22 maart 2012 08:40:14 schreef Thierry Vignaud:
+[...]
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+ic your point, i too am interested in non-bloated install.
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+however, this mail is specifically on installing WITHOUT suggests, or X. and in 
+this particular case, i'd like to get it really really small.
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+atm i'm looking at 670MB... which is way to bloated. at time of mga1, i had a 
+similar install of around 450MB IIRC.
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+&gt;<i> &gt; thing is, without a full kickstart (which i don't want to, i'd like to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; keep doing partitioning manually, but kickstart seems not to do the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; interactive requests), i can't really make a minimal system to begin
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; with...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> you can still do a semi automatic install.
+</I>
+kickstart=file didn't seem to honor the interactive steps, and gave error 
+because no / was found.
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+defcfg=file seemed to have a little bit of default settings, but still i had to 
+go through every step...
+
+i haven't found a way to have the middle ground. (or it needs some love)
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+&gt;<i> Installer already have a option to select &quot;do not install suggests&quot;
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+and it does...
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+that's exactly what i stated in my original email...
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+PEOPLE ARE HIJACKING MY THREAD!!!
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and brett at 22/03/12 15:12 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>iinm we're actually still starting it up... contact rtp for more info
+</I>&gt;<i> regarding this.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you please expand rtp....I don't know what that stands for.
+</I>
+rtp is his IRC nick name :)
+
+rtp = Arnaud Pitard
+
+Col
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 22 maart 2012 10:14:27 schreef Maarten Vanraes:
+&gt;<i> at $dayjob, we're testing out the rescue.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> so at first we're doing an rsync, but we need to do it on a network disk.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> cifs was not available, but that's not a big issue.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> nfs was available, so we wanted to mount
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> but the mount failed, because nfs module wasn't modprobed, and drvinst
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't fix that (maybe it should modprobe nfs as well)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> or maybe mount.nfs should try to modprobe nfs if needed.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> however, statd wasn't there and it complained that it needed that for
+</I>&gt;<i> locking
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> atm we're doing -o nolock and that works... but... statd would be quite
+</I>&gt;<i> usefull here...
+</I>
+perhaps i should rephrase...
+
+can i fix this by adding statd on the rescue? or would this take too much 
+space?
+
+plz advise...
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+    <B>zezinho</B> 
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+&gt;<i> I am a packager, but I have never been able to attend any of the meetings
+</I>&gt;<i> because they are conducted during a time I really need to be at work.
+</I>&gt;<i>   Well, it may not that important, but it helps team building.
+</I>&gt;<i> Could we consider to hold some of these meetings at a weekend?
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+    <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> 
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+Please push if possible autojump. I thought I had committed and submitted it 
+already weeks ago but it looks like I forgot (only uploaded the tar.gz).
+
+Changes from versions 17 to 19 include mainly fixes. Unfortunately there is a 
+new feature, so it's not a bugfix-only release, but it doesn't change user 
+habits.
+
+If the push is refused, then I'll try to backport some fixes, but given the 
+non-criticity of the package and the unlikeliness of big regressions (I've 
+been using it locally without any problem for some weeks), I would not be 
+against having more time for more important matters :)
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+Best regards
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+Samuel Verschelde
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+<PRE>20.03.2012 10:50, JA Magall&#243;n kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> Hi all...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I have a queston about an issue that should be decided by the 'thinkin
+</I>&gt;<i> minds' in the distro, that probably have have wider sight than me...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I have some boxes with ide disks, that long tine ago were driven by
+</I>&gt;<i> the libata subsystem, as the pure PATA susbsytem is being slowly
+</I>&gt;<i> deprecated. Perhaps the kernel driver loading priorities have changed,
+</I>&gt;<i> perhaps before IDE was not builtin into kernel.
+</I>&gt;<i> But now, to get my IDE drove again by libata, I have to blacklist
+</I>&gt;<i> generic-ide and company.
+</I>&gt;<i> So I had to put a file ide.conf into modules.d like:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> blacklist ide-generic
+</I>&gt;<i> blacklist ide-pci-generic
+</I>&gt;<i> blacklist piix
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> so ata_piix drives my ICH5 again.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it is desirable, libata works much better than old IDE driver,
+</I>&gt;<i> all your drives are sdX, instead of mixing sdX for SATA and hdX for PATA,
+</I>&gt;<i> etc...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Would it be desirable to have an ide-blacklist.conf file just to go
+</I>&gt;<i> migrating all working-ok-with-libata controllers to libata, and only
+</I>&gt;<i> leave pure PATA drivers for non supported oldies ?
+</I>
+I'm not sure how it worked previously (hack in mkinitrd, or luck?), but
+if we don't want to disable the IDE drivers completely, attached is a
+kernel patch that makes modprobe load ATA drivers before IDE drivers.
+
+Thomas?
+
+-- 
+Anssi Hannula
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+  (might help #1015 &amp; the like)
+- fix bogus messages about 3rd party drivers
+- drakfirewall:
+  o fix listing NFS ports
+  o fix cleaning old rules
+- nfs: add .conf suffix to lockd.drakx file in /etc/modprobe.d
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+    <B>Anne Nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi
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+</I>&gt;<i> Please let in drakx-net:
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+</I>&gt;<i> - fix CRDA never set to 'US' when country not in CRDA domains
+</I>&gt;<i>   (might help #1015 &amp; the like)
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix bogus messages about 3rd party drivers
+</I>&gt;<i> - drakfirewall:
+</I>&gt;<i>   o fix listing NFS ports
+</I>&gt;<i>   o fix cleaning old rules
+</I>&gt;<i> - nfs: add .conf suffix to lockd.drakx file in /etc/modprobe.d
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> See you
+</I>
+submitted
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+-- 
+Anne
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le 17/03/2012 03:22, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hence I suggest a single user id to be used. (I'm fine with any other
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> solution which works as well)
+</I>&gt;<i> My main concern is the fuzziness of the current situation where we have
+</I>&gt;<i> - one virtual package 'webserver' corresponding to four implementations
+</I>&gt;<i> (apache, lightpd, nginx, cherooke)
+</I>&gt;<i> - one common base (webserver-base) only used by the two first ones
+</I>&gt;<i> - all our web applications packages using 'apache' as mandatory dependency
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If the main concern is file ownership, I'd propose for the next release
+</I>&gt;<i> to have each of these servers use a distinct uid, document root and
+</I>&gt;<i> index page, but use a shared 'webserver' or 'www' gid, and ensure all of
+</I>&gt;<i> those applications use group-based permission, instead of user-based.
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd find this setup a bit clearer.
+</I>
+I'd rather they all use the traditional document root &quot;/var/www/html&quot;,
+but I don't really care much as long as the webapps are usable with both
+apache and lighttpd.
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+I'm not sure if all webapps can easily work with group-based
+permissions, but maybe they do (I don't know much about them)...
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Name        : radeon-firmware              Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version     : 20120322                          Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release     : 1.mga2.nonfree                Build Date: Thu Mar 22
+</I>&gt;<i> 12:39:11 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed)               Build Host: jonund.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group       : System/Kernel and hardware    Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size        : 56508                            License: Freeware
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature   : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager    : tmb &lt;tmb&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL         : <A HREF="http://ati.amd.com/">http://ati.amd.com/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary     : ATI/AMD Radeon firmware files
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> Firmware files for ATI/AMD Radeon graphics cards.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This package contains all the firmware files (including RLC) for the
+</I>&gt;<i> following Radeon series: R100, R200, R300, R400, R500, R600, R700,
+</I>&gt;<i> Evergreen, Fusion, Northern Islands, Southern Islands, Cayman, Llano,
+</I>&gt;<i> Trinity.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 20120322-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+It conflicts with kernel-firmware &lt; %{version}-1 and kernel-firmware is
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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+<PRE>Pascal Terjan skrev 22.3.2012 23:08:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:39, tmb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>     Name        : radeon-firmware              Relocations: (not
+</I>&gt;<i>     relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i>     Version     : 20120322                          Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i>     Release     : 1.mga2.nonfree                Build Date: Thu Mar 22
+</I>
+[...]
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>     tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 20120322-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It conflicts with kernel-firmware &lt; %{version}-1 and kernel-firmware is
+</I>&gt;<i> currently 20120219
+</I>
+Doh, forgot about that...
+
+Fixed in 20120322-2.mga2
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+Thanks for noticing.
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+    <B>Remco Rijnders</B> 
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+    <I>Thu Mar 22 22:16:27 CET 2012</I>
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+please find below a courtesy copy of the latest blog post.
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+<A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/03/22/bug-off/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/03/22/bug-off/</A>
+=======================================================================
+
+The past months, Mageia has been hard at work getting Alpha and Beta 
+releases out for our upcoming release Mageia 2. With Beta 2 out of the 
+door, and the release candidate on the way, it is time to reflect for a 
+moment on our current situation.
+
+A lot of hard work has been done by a lot of people. Developers, QA &amp; and 
+triaging teams, and not in the least beta testers have worked hard to 
+improve our distribution to the best of our abilities and to ensure that 
+Mageia 2 will become a release for everyone to enjoy.
+
+During the testing, a number of bugs have been found which have been 
+marked as release blockers. While we are hard at work on resolving them, 
+there still is a lot to be done, and we can&#8217;t release while any release 
+blocking bugs are still outstanding.
+
+To this end, we&#8217;d like to invite everyone to participate in Mageia&#8217;s first 
+bug squashing party!
+
+The bug squash party will take place this weekend from friday 4 PM CET, to 
+monday 10 PM CEST in #mageia-bugsquad on the Freenode IRC network.
+
+We invite you to join in during this weekend to help us fix as many bugs 
+as we can! Everyone can help! If you are a packager, we encourage you to 
+get outside of your comfortzone and also have a look for example at 
+installer bugs, wifi bugs, systemd issues, and so on! As end user you can 
+help as well, we are still looking at increasing testing coverage to see 
+if we catch all major issues before going gold with our release. Some bugs 
+only manifest themselves on certain hardware profiles&#8230; if your computer is 
+affected by one of these bugs, we especially appreciate your availability 
+to help with testing to see if we can squeeze those nasty bugs!
+
+Over the weekend, we will have a special page on our wiki where we will 
+track the status of all issues we&#8217;re working on, as well as a daily update 
+of our progress and work outstanding on the mailinglists -discuss and 
+-dev.
+
+We hope to see you on IRC in #mageia-bugsquad this weekend to help us make 
+Mageia even better and make Mageia 2 a rock solid release!
+
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+    <B>Jeff Robins</B> 
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+Does this fix bug 5018 (<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5018">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5018</A>)?
+ Bugzilla says the bug is still open.
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+Thank you,
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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+<PRE>Anssi Hannula skrev 22.3.2012 22:35:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure how it worked previously (hack in mkinitrd, or luck?), but
+</I>&gt;<i> if we don't want to disable the IDE drivers completely, attached is a
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel patch that makes modprobe load ATA drivers before IDE drivers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+ACK.
+
+Committed to svn, thanks.
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+<PRE>22.03.2012 23:30, Thomas Backlund kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> Anssi Hannula skrev 22.3.2012 22:35:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not sure how it worked previously (hack in mkinitrd, or luck?), but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if we don't want to disable the IDE drivers completely, attached is a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kernel patch that makes modprobe load ATA drivers before IDE drivers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> ACK.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Committed to svn, thanks.
+</I>
+OK.
+
+Note that it was/is untested (forgot to mention that). So please check
+locally first before submitting that it doesn't completely break
+everything :)
+Though I guess you already test your kernels...
+
+-- 
+Anssi Hannula
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+&gt;<i> Thomas,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Does this fix bug 5018 (<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5018">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5018</A>)?
+</I>&gt;<i>   Bugzilla says the bug is still open.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Nope.
+
+I'm not sure I want to &quot;intentionally break&quot; working systems as it would 
+also hit users that remove the radeon-firmware rpm by mistake...
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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+</I>&gt;<i> Note that it was/is untested (forgot to mention that). So please check
+</I>&gt;<i> locally first before submitting that it doesn't completely break
+</I>&gt;<i> everything :)
+</I>&gt;<i> Though I guess you already test your kernels...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yep :)
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+&gt;<i> I'm not sure I want to &quot;intentionally break&quot; working systems as it would
+</I>&gt;<i> also hit users that remove the radeon-firmware rpm by mistake...
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+Will this cause a problem if someone installs the AMD Catalyst drivers?
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+&gt;<i> Am 20.03.2012 10:36, schrieb David Walser:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Minor foomatic-filters update (4.0.14) contains just one change, should be
+</I>safe to go in:
+&gt;<i> &gt; 	* foomaticrip.c: If the input data is PDF but the driver requires
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 	  PostScript, use the pdftops CUPS filter when CUPS is the spooler.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 	  This way we always use the same method to convert PDF to PostScript
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 	  in the whole system, including any workarounds applied in the CUPS
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 	  filter.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Confirmed that it builds and installs fine locally.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, does it also work just fine?
+</I>
+Yes.  Thanks for asking and sorry I didn't mention it earlier.
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+I tested this at work printing PDFs to a printer configured to use PostScript
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+&gt;<i> i did a network install
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> and choose 'custom', then deselected everything, pressed next
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> i got to the next menu of installation and left these to default:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>  - no X
+</I>&gt;<i>  - no suggestions
+</I>&gt;<i>  - basic doc still on
+</I>&gt;<i>  - truly minimal was off
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> but, i ended up with x libraries, fonts, etc...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> so i dug a bit deeper as to why and looked at the ddebug.log file:
+</I>
+i looked once more, after the choose packages step:
+
+these are the categories selected:
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+CAT_MINIMAL_DOCS
+CAT_SYSTEM
+CHARSET&quot;C&quot;
+LOCALES&quot;en&quot;
+LOCALES&quot;_&quot;
+LOCALES&quot;en_US&quot;
+META_CLASS&quot;download&quot;
+TRUE
+USB
+UTF8
+
+this should be:
+man info man-pages eject ldetect harddrake sharutils locales iputils urpmi 
+tmpwatch dmidecode ntfs-3g pm-utils numlock lftp mageia-release-Default
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+
+these should result in a selection of 235 packages (i tried to track these 
+manually through the rpmsrate file
+
+however, somehow other packages seem to be getting extra installed anyway 
+(during the choosePackages step)!
+
+first package being selected is:
+
+- lib64drm_radeon1 ... even in rpmsrate radeon-firmware (the closest thing i 
+can imagine), needs CAT_X ....
+
+next:
+- lib64pam0
+- bootsplash
+
+am i missing something, i have the feeling there's another file that has effect 
+to these stuff?
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+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 22 maart 2012 00:30:53 schreef Maarten Vanraes:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i did a network install
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and choose 'custom', then deselected everything, pressed next
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i got to the next menu of installation and left these to default:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;  - no X
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;  - no suggestions
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;  - basic doc still on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;  - truly minimal was off
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but, i ended up with x libraries, fonts, etc...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; so i dug a bit deeper as to why and looked at the ddebug.log file:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i looked once more, after the choose packages step:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> these are the categories selected:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> CAT_MINIMAL_DOCS
+</I>&gt;<i> CAT_SYSTEM
+</I>&gt;<i> CHARSET&quot;C&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> LOCALES&quot;en&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> LOCALES&quot;_&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> LOCALES&quot;en_US&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> META_CLASS&quot;download&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> TRUE
+</I>&gt;<i> USB
+</I>&gt;<i> UTF8
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this should be:
+</I>&gt;<i> man info man-pages eject ldetect harddrake sharutils locales iputils urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> tmpwatch dmidecode ntfs-3g pm-utils numlock lftp mageia-release-Default
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> + basesystem-minimal at least
+</I>
+
+&gt;<i> these should result in a selection of 235 packages (i tried to track these
+</I>&gt;<i> manually through the rpmsrate file
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> however, somehow other packages seem to be getting extra installed anyway
+</I>&gt;<i> (during the choosePackages step)!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> first package being selected is:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - lib64drm_radeon1 ... even in rpmsrate radeon-firmware (the closest thing
+</I>&gt;<i> i
+</I>&gt;<i> can imagine), needs CAT_X ....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hard to say without the full list
+I would guess plymouth got selected or maybe lsl-lib64
+
+plymouth requires libdrm_radeon.so.1
+lsb-lib64 rquires lib64mesagl1 which requires lib64dri-drivers which
+requires libdrm_radeon.so.1
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+&gt;<i> - lib64pam0
+</I>&gt;<i> - bootsplash
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+</I>&gt;<i> am i missing something, i have the feeling there's another file that has
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 23 maart 2012 00:44:09 schreef Pascal Terjan:
+[...]
+&gt;<i> next:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - lib64pam0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - bootsplash
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; am i missing something, i have the feeling there's another file that has
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; effect
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to these stuff?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Well all the packages have plenty of dependencies...
+</I>
+bootsplash is a good thing to look for:
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+see the relevant part of ddebug.log: <A HREF="http://paste.pocoo.org/show/569781/">http://paste.pocoo.org/show/569781/</A>
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+look for bootsplash, it gets selected, but never chosen nor required, but it's 
+somehow there... and it should need CAT_X... to get selected...
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+also see that the lib64drm_radeon1 is the very first in the ddebug.log...? why 
+first? somehow it's been preselected, but it's not even in rpmsrate...
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+If the build fails, please save build logs somewhere (or just send them
+to me) so that we can analyze them afterwards.
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+libzip 0.10.1 has been released to fix these.  I have updated it in SVN and confirmed it builds, but I have not tested it yet.
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+    <B>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz</B> 
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+Enviado desde mi tel&#233;fono Verizon Wireless
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+-----Mensaje original-----
+De: Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dlucio at okay.com.mx</A>&gt;
+Para: Mageia development mailing-list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Enviado: jue, mar 22, 2012 13:50:44 GMT+00:00
+Asunto: Re: [Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+
+On Jue 22 Mar 2012 07:41:02 Anne Nicolas escribi&#243;:
+&gt;<i> Le 22/03/2012 14:38, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Helo
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Please push libnetfilter_queue, it updates from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; LD
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Reasons...
+</I>
+I'm not a kernel developer, here it is the changelog
+<A HREF="https://git.netfilter.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=libnetfilter_queue.git;a=shortlog">https://git.netfilter.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=libnetfilter_queue.git;a=shortlog</A>
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+There are more than 18 months of difference between 1.0.0 and 1.0.1, I guess 
+since this is a kernel matter, 18 months ago we were using 2.6, now 3.3.
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dlucio at okay.com.mx</A>&gt;wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Jue 22 Mar 2012 07:41:02 Anne Nicolas escribi&#243;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 22/03/2012 14:38, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Helo
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Please push libnetfilter_queue, it updates from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; LD
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Reasons...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not a kernel developer, here it is the changelog
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://git.netfilter.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=libnetfilter_queue.git;a=shortlog">https://git.netfilter.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=libnetfilter_queue.git;a=shortlog</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are more than 18 months of difference between 1.0.0 and 1.0.1, I
+</I>&gt;<i> guess
+</I>&gt;<i> since this is a kernel matter, 18 months ago we were using 2.6, now 3.3.
+</I>
+
+Looking at the changes, it seems safe to update but there is also no real
+reason to do so...
+Only real change is
+<A HREF="https://git.netfilter.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=libnetfilter_queue.git;a=commit;h=1154021c599257edf2c3dcb4d29f6b4dcb67643a">https://git.netfilter.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=libnetfilter_queue.git;a=commit;h=1154021c599257edf2c3dcb4d29f6b4dcb67643a</A>
+Other changes are doc or build changes + licence change to GPLv2+
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+    <B>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz</B> 
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+Enviado desde mi tel&#233;fono Verizon Wireless
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+-----Mensaje original-----
+De: Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+Para: Mageia development mailing-list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Enviado: vie, mar 23, 2012 00:40:37 GMT+00:00
+Asunto: Re: [Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+
+On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 13:49, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dlucio at okay.com.mx</A>&gt;wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Jue 22 Mar 2012 07:41:02 Anne Nicolas escribi&#243;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 22/03/2012 14:38, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Helo
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Please push libnetfilter_queue, it updates from 1.0.0 to 1.0.1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; LD
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Reasons...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not a kernel developer, here it is the changelog
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://git.netfilter.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=libnetfilter_queue.git;a=shortlog">https://git.netfilter.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=libnetfilter_queue.git;a=shortlog</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are more than 18 months of difference between 1.0.0 and 1.0.1, I
+</I>&gt;<i> guess
+</I>&gt;<i> since this is a kernel matter, 18 months ago we were using 2.6, now 3.3.
+</I>
+
+Looking at the changes, it seems safe to update but there is also no real
+reason to do so...
+Only real change is
+<A HREF="https://git.netfilter.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=libnetfilter_queue.git;a=commit;h=1154021c599257edf2c3dcb4d29f6b4dcb67643a">https://git.netfilter.org/cgi-bin/gitweb.cgi?p=libnetfilter_queue.git;a=commit;h=1154021c599257edf2c3dcb4d29f6b4dcb67643a</A>
+Other changes are doc or build changes + licence change to GPLv2+
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+in a chroot, i did a test with requiring plymouth or suggesting it (from 
+dracut)
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+without plymouth: 294 packages/294MB
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+i'm gonna try a minimal install and see how much this'll differ
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 22 maart 2012 19:04:07 schreef Maarten Vanraes:
+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 22 maart 2012 17:57:29 schreef Thomas Backlund:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Installer already have a option to select &quot;do not install suggests&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> and it does...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> that's exactly what i stated in my original email...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> PEOPLE ARE HIJACKING MY THREAD!!!
+</I>
+of course, this was a joke at the time...
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+but i should've known better...
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+it appears the &quot;no suggests option&quot; is broken, since i did minimal install, 
+with and without this, and i have exactly the same system...
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+both times i have messages in ddebug.log saying: &quot;... as suggested by ...&quot;
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+:<i>-(
+</I>
+can someone fix this one?
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+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 22 maart 2012 05:36:47 schreef Thomas Spuhler:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please push php-apacheaccessor
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I upgraded it in svn to 0.1.1 in Dec. 2011, but it either didn't build or I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> forgot to submit it.
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+</I>&gt;<i> i'm pretty sure the requirements for freeze pushes are also at least that you 
+</I>&gt;<i> must know it builds and works perfectly, on top of that it usually needs to be 
+</I>&gt;<i> only bugfixes, or due to client/server changes that it is required...
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+</I>&gt;<i> plz add more info to this request
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+There is a bug fix in it, actually.  The manual httpd restart has been removed in favor of 
+filetriggers.  At this particular time, if these manual restarts are left in, there can be breaking 
+of httpd for people doing live upgrades with urpmi.  Please let this one go through.
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 2:36 PM, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not sure I want to &quot;intentionally break&quot; working systems as it would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> also hit users that remove the radeon-firmware rpm by mistake...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Will this cause a problem if someone installs the AMD Catalyst drivers?
+</I>
+Nope, it shouldn't make a difference.
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+&gt;<i> Otherwise, I tend to agree.  At least until the missing radeon
+</I>&gt;<i> firmware bug is fixed.
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 23 maart 2012 02:08:26 schreef Maarten Vanraes:
+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 22 maart 2012 00:30:53 schreef Maarten Vanraes:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> in a chroot, i did a test with requiring plymouth or suggesting it (from
+</I>&gt;<i> dracut)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> the difference is:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> with plymouth: 301 packages/335MB
+</I>&gt;<i> without plymouth: 294 packages/294MB
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> i'm gonna try a minimal install and see how much this'll differ
+</I>
+
+ok, i was a bit wrong:
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+i have a local dracut version overridden with urpmi-proxy so as not to 
+required but suggest plymouth
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+testing with which packages would become requested with rpmsrate...
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+in a chroot, this becomes: 246 packages/299MB
+but, with suggests, this becomes 337 packages/385MB
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+however, in an install i have 371 packages
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+but the / contains 731MB
+
+so, where do all these extra packages come from?
+
+these are the different packages between installing with suggests, or chrooted 
+rpmsrate expansion with suggests...
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+acpi
+acpid
+bc
+coreutils-doc
+cpufreq
+dhcp-client
+dhcp-common
+dmraid
+dmraid-events
+gpg-pubkey
+hdparm
+hexedit
+ipset
+iptables
+kpartx
+lib64dmraid1
+lib64ip4tc0
+lib64ip6tc0
+lib64iptables7
+lib64mnl0
+lib64nfnetlink0
+locales-en
+lsof
+mageia-gfxboot-theme
+mandi
+mandi-ifw
+microcode
+microcode_ctl
+procmail
+shorewall
+strace
+sudo
+tree
+
+for one, mageia-gfxboot-theme is here again... it didn't get selected in 
+chrooted install from manually checked rpmsrate settings... where does this 
+come from?
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+is there a part in the installer that hardcodes certain packages? clearly 
+according to the ddebug.log file, this mageia-gfxboot-theme gets selected 
+during the choosePackages step and not later on...
+
+what am i missing here?
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+does anyone have an idea? i'd like to get to the bottom of this, so a pointer 
+in a direction would help me alot...
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+&gt;<i> The corresponding bug is: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4830">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4830</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If the build fails, please save build logs somewhere (or just send them
+</I>&gt;<i> to me) so that we can analyze them afterwards.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Mitya
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> New vulnerabilities CVE-2012-1162 (heap overflow) and CVE-2012-1163 (integer overflow) in libzip, which also affect PHP (probably the php-zip subpackage) were recently announced.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> libzip 0.10.1 has been released to fix these.  I have updated it in SVN and confirmed it builds, but I have not tested it yet.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> PHP has not yet issued an update for this.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> References:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5063">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5063</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/710">http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/710</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802564">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802564</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803028">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803028</A>
+</I>
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+    <B>Anne Nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> New vulnerabilities CVE-2012-1162 (heap overflow) and CVE-2012-1163 (integer overflow) in libzip, which also affect PHP (probably the php-zip subpackage) were recently announced.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> libzip 0.10.1 has been released to fix these.  I have updated it in SVN and confirmed it builds, but I have not tested it yet.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> PHP has not yet issued an update for this.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> References:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5063">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5063</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/710">http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/710</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802564">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802564</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803028">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803028</A>
+</I>
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+&gt;&gt;<i> nfs was available, so we wanted to mount
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but the mount failed, because nfs module wasn't modprobed, and drvinst
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> didn't fix that (maybe it should modprobe nfs as well)
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or maybe mount.nfs should try to modprobe nfs if needed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> however, statd wasn't there and it complained that it needed that for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> locking
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> atm we're doing -o nolock and that works... but... statd would be quite
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> usefull here...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> perhaps i should rephrase...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> can i fix this by adding statd on the rescue? or would this take too much
+</I>&gt;<i> space?
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+it's simpler to use &quot;mount -o nolock&quot; instead...
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+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 23 maart 2012 02:08:26 schreef Maarten Vanraes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op donderdag 22 maart 2012 00:30:53 schreef Maarten Vanraes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in a chroot, i did a test with requiring plymouth or suggesting it (from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dracut)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the difference is:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with plymouth: 301 packages/335MB
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> without plymouth: 294 packages/294MB
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i'm gonna try a minimal install and see how much this'll differ
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ok, i was a bit wrong:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i have a local dracut version overridden with urpmi-proxy so as not to
+</I>&gt;<i> required but suggest plymouth
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> testing with which packages would become requested with rpmsrate...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> in a chroot, this becomes: 246 packages/299MB
+</I>&gt;<i> but, with suggests, this becomes 337 packages/385MB
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> however, in an install i have 371 packages
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but the / contains 731MB
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so, where do all these extra packages come from?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> these are the different packages between installing with suggests, or chrooted
+</I>&gt;<i> rpmsrate expansion with suggests...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> acpi
+</I>&gt;<i> acpid
+</I>&gt;<i> bc
+</I>&gt;<i> coreutils-doc
+</I>&gt;<i> cpufreq
+</I>&gt;<i> dhcp-client
+</I>&gt;<i> dhcp-common
+</I>&gt;<i> dmraid
+</I>&gt;<i> dmraid-events
+</I>&gt;<i> gpg-pubkey
+</I>&gt;<i> hdparm
+</I>&gt;<i> hexedit
+</I>&gt;<i> ipset
+</I>&gt;<i> iptables
+</I>&gt;<i> kpartx
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64dmraid1
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64ip4tc0
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64ip6tc0
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64iptables7
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64mnl0
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64nfnetlink0
+</I>&gt;<i> locales-en
+</I>&gt;<i> lsof
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-gfxboot-theme
+</I>&gt;<i> mandi
+</I>&gt;<i> mandi-ifw
+</I>&gt;<i> microcode
+</I>&gt;<i> microcode_ctl
+</I>&gt;<i> procmail
+</I>&gt;<i> shorewall
+</I>&gt;<i> strace
+</I>&gt;<i> sudo
+</I>&gt;<i> tree
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> for one, mageia-gfxboot-theme is here again... it didn't get selected in
+</I>&gt;<i> chrooted install from manually checked rpmsrate settings... where does this
+</I>&gt;<i> come from?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> is there a part in the installer that hardcodes certain packages? clearly
+</I>&gt;<i> according to the ddebug.log file, this mageia-gfxboot-theme gets selected
+</I>&gt;<i> during the choosePackages step and not later on...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> what am i missing here?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> does anyone have an idea? i'd like to get to the bottom of this, so a pointer
+</I>&gt;<i> in a direction would help me alot...
+</I>
+acpi* mageia-gfxboot-them are pulled by the installer
+mandi* shorewall (&amp; thus iptables*) too.
+I've asked previously if we want a firewall installed before summary, anne &amp;
+blino said it was OK
+microcode* is pulled b/c your CPU supports patching
+idem for cpufreq
+dhcp was selected b/c there was a network interface configured as DHCP
+dmraid (&amp; thus kpartx) was selected b/c you've some fake raid
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+you always got gpg-pubkey, those are fake packages containing the keys
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+    <B>Julien</B> 
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+Please push compiz 0.9.7.2, it's a bugfix release with fix for crash and
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+in shortcut handling. (not sure I can push it myself ?)
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+compizconfig-python after that.
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+&gt;<i> I've asked previously if we want a firewall installed before summary, anne &amp;
+</I>&gt;<i> blino said it was OK
+</I>
+Nice! And how is the user supposed to avoid installing a firewall with
+all those dependencies if he does not need it (ie if the firewall
+functions are handled by another device in the LAN?)? I see no sense
+having a firewall with all dependencies on all my machines in the LAN
+when there is a dedicated device/pc for this function. So why not
+leave that to the summary (or an extra question) during installer and
+then install the necessary packages according to the answer (yes or
+no)?
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+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/3/23 Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I've asked previously if we want a firewall installed before summary,
+</I>anne &amp;
+&gt;<i> &gt; blino said it was OK
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Nice! And how is the user supposed to avoid installing a firewall with
+</I>&gt;<i> all those dependencies if he does not need it (ie if the firewall
+</I>&gt;<i> functions are handled by another device in the LAN?)? I see no sense
+</I>&gt;<i> having a firewall with all dependencies on all my machines in the LAN
+</I>&gt;<i> when there is a dedicated device/pc for this function. So why not
+</I>&gt;<i> leave that to the summary (or an extra question) during installer and
+</I>&gt;<i> then install the necessary packages according to the answer (yes or
+</I>&gt;<i> no)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> wobo
+</I>
+If interested, I did a lot of what I called thinning of the distro for mdv
+to get my UL CLI isos down to 100MB.
+
+There's not just one point in the dep chain that starts the deluge of
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+</I>&gt;<i> On Mar 23, 2012 3:41 AM, &quot;Wolfgang Bornath&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/23 Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I've asked previously if we want a firewall installed before summary,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; anne &amp;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; blino said it was OK
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nice! And how is the user supposed to avoid installing a firewall with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> all those dependencies if he does not need it (ie if the firewall
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> functions are handled by another device in the LAN?)? I see no sense
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> having a firewall with all dependencies on all my machines in the LAN
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> when there is a dedicated device/pc for this function. So why not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> leave that to the summary (or an extra question) during installer and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> then install the necessary packages according to the answer (yes or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> no)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If interested, I did a lot of what I called thinning of the distro for mdv
+</I>&gt;<i> to get my UL CLI isos down to 100MB.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's not just one point in the dep chain that starts the deluge of
+</I>&gt;<i> unnecessary pkgs.
+</I>
+Yes, playing with minimal installation options lately (either by
+preset minimum install options or by individual package selections)
+many questions arose. I was hoping for steps toward an improvement by
+this thread.
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+&gt;<i> On 22 March 2012 20:33, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; nfs was available, so we wanted to mount
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; but the mount failed, because nfs module wasn't modprobed, and drvinst
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; didn't fix that (maybe it should modprobe nfs as well)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; or maybe mount.nfs should try to modprobe nfs if needed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; however, statd wasn't there and it complained that it needed that for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; locking
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; atm we're doing -o nolock and that works... but... statd would be quite
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; usefull here...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; perhaps i should rephrase...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; can i fix this by adding statd on the rescue? or would this take too much
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; space?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> it's simpler to use &quot;mount -o nolock&quot; instead...
+</I>
+it's what i did at the time, but would it be alot of work/space to include 
+statd? when doing backup of files to somewhere else, you kind of want to know 
+it's not gonna get mushed if someone just goes around opening some files or 
+something...
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+would it just be running statd? or would it also require portmapper etc... 
+etc... ?
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+if it's too much work, or too complex, it's not needed, but if it's not too 
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 23 maart 2012 10:42:40 schreef Thierry Vignaud:
+&gt;<i> On 23 March 2012 08:32, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op vrijdag 23 maart 2012 02:08:26 schreef Maarten Vanraes:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Op donderdag 22 maart 2012 00:30:53 schreef Maarten Vanraes:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; in a chroot, i did a test with requiring plymouth or suggesting it (from
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; dracut)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the difference is:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; with plymouth: 301 packages/335MB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; without plymouth: 294 packages/294MB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; i'm gonna try a minimal install and see how much this'll differ
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ok, i was a bit wrong:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i have a local dracut version overridden with urpmi-proxy so as not to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; required but suggest plymouth
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; testing with which packages would become requested with rpmsrate...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in a chroot, this becomes: 246 packages/299MB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but, with suggests, this becomes 337 packages/385MB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; however, in an install i have 371 packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but the / contains 731MB
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; so, where do all these extra packages come from?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; these are the different packages between installing with suggests, or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; chrooted rpmsrate expansion with suggests...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; acpi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; acpid
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; coreutils-doc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; cpufreq
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; dhcp-client
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; dhcp-common
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; dmraid
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; dmraid-events
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; gpg-pubkey
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; hdparm
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; hexedit
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ipset
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; iptables
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; kpartx
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lib64dmraid1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lib64ip4tc0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lib64ip6tc0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lib64iptables7
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lib64mnl0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lib64nfnetlink0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; locales-en
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; lsof
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mageia-gfxboot-theme
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mandi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mandi-ifw
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; microcode
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; microcode_ctl
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; procmail
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; shorewall
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; strace
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; sudo
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; tree
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for one, mageia-gfxboot-theme is here again... it didn't get selected in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; chrooted install from manually checked rpmsrate settings... where does
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this come from?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is there a part in the installer that hardcodes certain packages? clearly
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; according to the ddebug.log file, this mageia-gfxboot-theme gets selected
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; during the choosePackages step and not later on...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; what am i missing here?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; does anyone have an idea? i'd like to get to the bottom of this, so a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pointer in a direction would help me alot...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> acpi* mageia-gfxboot-them are pulled by the installer
+</I>&gt;<i> mandi* shorewall (&amp; thus iptables*) too.
+</I>&gt;<i> I've asked previously if we want a firewall installed before summary, anne
+</I>&gt;<i> &amp; blino said it was OK
+</I>&gt;<i> microcode* is pulled b/c your CPU supports patching
+</I>&gt;<i> idem for cpufreq
+</I>&gt;<i> dhcp was selected b/c there was a network interface configured as DHCP
+</I>&gt;<i> dmraid (&amp; thus kpartx) was selected b/c you've some fake raid
+</I>&gt;<i> (...)
+</I>&gt;<i> you always got gpg-pubkey, those are fake packages containing the keys
+</I>&gt;<i> used to verify packages
+</I>
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+thanks for the explanations, i really appreciate this, it seems logical, 
+somehow, except maybe what i'm coming back to:
+
+mageia-gfxboot-theme is pulled by installer? how does that work?
+
+is this really required? or is this something that's somehow done in the 
+graphic installer?
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+i mean, i didn't select graphic grub, i chose text-grub specifically. and 
+somehow during the choosePackages step, the mageia-gfxboot-theme is 
+automatically selected...
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+this is the packages that's adding via extra dep and suggests, most of the 
+stuff...
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+where can i find the code that is responsible for this, so i can try and fix it?
+
+
+
+about firewall, perhaps it's possible to just include iptables, but set policy 
+on DROP incoming? shorewall seems a bit over the top...
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+but, if summary isn't completed, you can't boot into it, wrt bootloader? so 
+firewall seems useless for that...? what is the rationale behind this?
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+&gt;<i> In order to reach as wide a target audience as we have in mind with it,
+</I>&gt;<i> please find below a courtesy copy of the latest blog post.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/03/22/bug-off/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/03/22/bug-off/</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The past months, Mageia has been hard at work getting Alpha and Beta
+</I>&gt;<i> releases out for our upcoming release Mageia 2. With Beta 2 out of the
+</I>&gt;<i> door, and the release candidate on the way, it is time to reflect for a
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+</I>&gt;<i> A lot of hard work has been done by a lot of people. Developers, QA &amp;
+</I>&gt;<i> and triaging teams, and not in the least beta testers have worked hard
+</I>&gt;<i> to improve our distribution to the best of our abilities and to ensure
+</I>&gt;<i> that Mageia 2 will become a release for everyone to enjoy.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> During the testing, a number of bugs have been found which have been
+</I>&gt;<i> marked as release blockers. While we are hard at work on resolving them,
+</I>&gt;<i> there still is a lot to be done, and we can&#8217;t release while any release
+</I>&gt;<i> blocking bugs are still outstanding.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> To this end, we&#8217;d like to invite everyone to participate in Mageia&#8217;s
+</I>&gt;<i> first bug squashing party!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The bug squash party will take place this weekend from friday 4 PM CET,
+</I>&gt;<i> to monday 10 PM CEST in #mageia-bugsquad on the Freenode IRC network.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> We invite you to join in during this weekend to help us fix as many bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> as we can! Everyone can help! If you are a packager, we encourage you to
+</I>&gt;<i> get outside of your comfortzone and also have a look for example at
+</I>&gt;<i> installer bugs, wifi bugs, systemd issues, and so on! As end user you
+</I>&gt;<i> can help as well, we are still looking at increasing testing coverage to
+</I>&gt;<i> see if we catch all major issues before going gold with our release.
+</I>&gt;<i> Some bugs only manifest themselves on certain hardware profiles&#8230; if your
+</I>&gt;<i> computer is affected by one of these bugs, we especially appreciate your
+</I>&gt;<i> availability to help with testing to see if we can squeeze those nasty
+</I>&gt;<i> bugs!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Over the weekend, we will have a special page on our wiki where we will
+</I>&gt;<i> track the status of all issues we&#8217;re working on, as well as a daily
+</I>&gt;<i> update of our progress and work outstanding on the mailinglists -discuss
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+</I>&gt;<i> We hope to see you on IRC in #mageia-bugsquad this weekend to help us
+</I>&gt;<i> make Mageia even better and make Mageia 2 a rock solid release!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia Triage Team
+</I>Have made an announcement in the Mageia-forum:
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+<A HREF="https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=15&amp;t=2127">https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=15&amp;t=2127</A>
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+<PRE>On 23 March 2012 17:00, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> thanks for the explanations, i really appreciate this, it seems logical,
+</I>&gt;<i> somehow, except maybe what i'm coming back to:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-gfxboot-theme is pulled by installer? how does that work?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> is this really required? or is this something that's somehow done in the
+</I>&gt;<i> graphic installer?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i mean, i didn't select graphic grub, i chose text-grub specifically. and
+</I>&gt;<i> somehow during the choosePackages step, the mageia-gfxboot-theme is
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically selected...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this is the packages that's adding via extra dep and suggests, most of the
+</I>&gt;<i> stuff...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> where can i find the code that is responsible for this, so i can try and fix it?
+</I>
+we preselect it here so that it got installed early:
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/drakx/trunk/perl-install/install/any.pm?revision=3532&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/drakx/trunk/perl-install/install/any.pm?revision=3532&amp;view=markup</A>
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+because else it'll be automatically pulled later, adding a one package (or more)
+wait later:
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/drakx/trunk/perl-install/bootloader.pm?revision=3581&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/drakx/trunk/perl-install/bootloader.pm?revision=3581&amp;view=markup</A>
+
+just look mageia-gfxboot-theme
+
+Of course, that's OK for 99% of our users but for those manually
+selecting text lilo.
+That's a trade off: enforcing waiting for packages installation after all
+the other package installation so that a couple users can not have
+the bootsplash installed and select lilo or having a couple users
+unhappy
+BWe could not preselect
+
+&gt;<i> about firewall, perhaps it's possible to just include iptables, but set policy
+</I>&gt;<i> on DROP incoming? shorewall seems a bit over the top...
+</I>
+we configure shorewall, not iptables.
+
+&gt;<i> but, if summary isn't completed, you can't boot into it, wrt bootloader? so
+</I>&gt;<i> firewall seems useless for that...? what is the rationale behind this?
+</I>
+In the old days we let poeple choose the security level early then we
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+Later the security choice was moved to the summary and security level
+number was reduced from to 3 (see msec or security::level)
+But since the default security level is 1 (&quot;standard&quot;), we automatically
+install the firewall anyway.
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+&gt;<i> On 23 March 2012 17:00, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thanks for the explanations, i really appreciate this, it seems logical,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> somehow, except maybe what i'm coming back to:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mageia-gfxboot-theme is pulled by installer? how does that work?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is this really required? or is this something that's somehow done in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> graphic installer?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i mean, i didn't select graphic grub, i chose text-grub specifically. and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> somehow during the choosePackages step, the mageia-gfxboot-theme is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> automatically selected...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this is the packages that's adding via extra dep and suggests, most of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> stuff...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> where can i find the code that is responsible for this, so i can try and fix it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we preselect it here so that it got installed early:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/drakx/trunk/perl-install/install/any.pm?revision=3532&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/drakx/trunk/perl-install/install/any.pm?revision=3532&amp;view=markup</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> because else it'll be automatically pulled later, adding a one package (or more)
+</I>&gt;<i> wait later:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/drakx/trunk/perl-install/bootloader.pm?revision=3581&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/drakx/trunk/perl-install/bootloader.pm?revision=3581&amp;view=markup</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> just look mageia-gfxboot-theme
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, that's OK for 99% of our users but for those manually
+</I>&gt;<i> selecting text lilo.
+</I>&gt;<i> That's a trade off: enforcing waiting for packages installation after all
+</I>&gt;<i> the other package installation so that a couple users can not have
+</I>&gt;<i> the bootsplash installed and select lilo or having a couple users
+</I>&gt;<i> unhappy
+</I>&gt;<i> BWe could not preselect
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> about firewall, perhaps it's possible to just include iptables, but set policy
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on DROP incoming? shorewall seems a bit over the top...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we configure shorewall, not iptables.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but, if summary isn't completed, you can't boot into it, wrt bootloader? so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> firewall seems useless for that...? what is the rationale behind this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the old days we let poeple choose the security level early then we
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically install &amp; set &#160;up the firewall accordingly.
+</I>&gt;<i> Later the security choice was moved to the summary and security level
+</I>&gt;<i> number was reduced from to 3 (see msec or security::level)
+</I>&gt;<i> But since the default security level is 1 (&quot;standard&quot;), we automatically
+</I>&gt;<i> install the firewall anyway.
+</I>&gt;<i> For years.
+</I>
+Yes and it has bothered me for years.
+Why not wait for the summary and install the firewall after the
+summary? Is there a security level without firewall? Name it &quot;0&quot; and
+add &quot;This is not recommended for a standard installation.&quot;
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+Same with glx-boot and plymouth, etc. Users will get used pretty fast
+to a new installation procedure where more packages are installed
+after the summary - last time I read this sentence &quot;users will get
+used to it&quot; when the move of X to tty1 was discussed - then this
+&quot;having to get used to&quot; was no problem. Why should it be one here?
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+[...]
+&gt;<i> we preselect it here so that it got installed early:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/drakx/trunk/perl-install/install/any.pm?revis">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/drakx/trunk/perl-install/install/any.pm?revis</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ion=3532&amp;view=markup
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> because else it'll be automatically pulled later, adding a one package (or
+</I>&gt;<i> more) wait later:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/drakx/trunk/perl-install/bootloader.pm?revisi">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/drakx/trunk/perl-install/bootloader.pm?revisi</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> on=3581&amp;view=markup
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> just look mageia-gfxboot-theme
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, that's OK for 99% of our users but for those manually
+</I>&gt;<i> selecting text lilo.
+</I>
+text grub would still need this? hmm... i'll look into this more deeply...
+
+&gt;<i> That's a trade off: enforcing waiting for packages installation after all
+</I>&gt;<i> the other package installation so that a couple users can not have
+</I>&gt;<i> the bootsplash installed and select lilo or having a couple users
+</I>&gt;<i> unhappy
+</I>
+yeah, i get that, and i agree with this, but there's no reason some advanced 
+setting can be done to turn more stuff off, be it visible or even via kickstart 
+or cmdline...
+
+&gt;<i> BWe could not preselect
+</I>
+what is 'BWe' ?
+
+
+well, i was thinking to disable the preselect and/or later part when CAT_X is 
+disabled. that should be fairly easy to do...
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; about firewall, perhaps it's possible to just include iptables, but set
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; policy on DROP incoming? shorewall seems a bit over the top...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> we configure shorewall, not iptables.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but, if summary isn't completed, you can't boot into it, wrt bootloader?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; so firewall seems useless for that...? what is the rationale behind
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; this?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> In the old days we let poeple choose the security level early then we
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically install &amp; set  up the firewall accordingly.
+</I>&gt;<i> Later the security choice was moved to the summary and security level
+</I>&gt;<i> number was reduced from to 3 (see msec or security::level)
+</I>&gt;<i> But since the default security level is 1 (&quot;standard&quot;), we automatically
+</I>&gt;<i> install the firewall anyway.
+</I>&gt;<i> For years.
+</I>
+sure, but i don't see the need to preselect it, again, it could be in rpmsrate 
+and handled that way now that the security level is &quot;unused&quot;
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+otoh, i could just use defcfg (if i ever get it working) and set security to 0 
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+MariaDB RC 5.5.22	29/Mar/12
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+that means that the GA (final release) is 2 days after release freeze :-(
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 23/03/12 17:39 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> ( see <A HREF="https://mariadb.atlassian.net/secure/Dashboard.jspa">https://mariadb.atlassian.net/secure/Dashboard.jspa</A> , look at road map )
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> MariaDB RC 5.5.22	29/Mar/12
+</I>&gt;<i> MariaDB GA 5.5.23	09/Apr/12
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> that means that the GA (final release) is 2 days after release freeze :-(
+</I>&gt;<i> (not counting any possible extra delays)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> however, i would like to have the final release and not the release candidate.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> any thoughts on this?
+</I>
+Well, sh1t happens... We'll just have to go with the RC and we can
+always issue an update to the final release afterwards. I don't think
+this is a huge problem. If there happen to be delays for other reasons
+we can maybe push it in, but I wouldn't bank on it!
+
+Col
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+Please let in drakxtools &amp; drakx-installer-stage2.
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+A lot of messages were bogus after the cleaning (replacing Mdv by %s
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+any &quot;Mageia&quot; to actually sprintf in...).
+There might be similar issues in other tools &quot;cleaned&quot;.
+People can use perl_checker to find those (&quot;not enough parameters&quot;).
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+Also, other bugs found by perl_checker and the support for
+&quot;splash/quiet&quot; in drakboot.
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+Here's the detailed changelog:
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+1) drakxtools
+- drakauth:
+  o fix actually displaying &quot;Domain Windows for authentication&quot;
+- drakboot:
+  o use &quot;splash&quot; on the kernel command line vs. &quot;splash=silent&quot; as per upstream
+    code (e.g. plymouth, systemd and others)
+  o support the &quot;quiet&quot; kernel command line argument to hide kernel text
+- drakbug, draksec, drakxhelp, logdrake:
+  o fix displaying &quot;Mageia&quot;
+- harddrake:
+  o fix detecting bluetooth devices
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+2) drakx-installer-stage2
+- better &quot;bootloader&quot; message (mga#484)
+- fix displaying &quot;Mageia&quot; in some messages
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Please let in drakxtools &amp; drakx-installer-stage2.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> A lot of messages were bogus after the cleaning (replacing Mdv by %s
+</I>&gt;<i> without providing
+</I>&gt;<i> any &quot;Mageia&quot; to actually sprintf in...).
+</I>&gt;<i> There might be similar issues in other tools &quot;cleaned&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> People can use perl_checker to find those (&quot;not enough parameters&quot;).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, other bugs found by perl_checker and the support for
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;splash/quiet&quot; in drakboot.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Here's the detailed changelog:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) drakxtools
+</I>&gt;<i> - drakauth:
+</I>&gt;<i>   o fix actually displaying &quot;Domain Windows for authentication&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> - drakboot:
+</I>&gt;<i>   o use &quot;splash&quot; on the kernel command line vs. &quot;splash=silent&quot; as per
+</I>&gt;<i> upstream code (e.g. plymouth, systemd and others)
+</I>&gt;<i>   o support the &quot;quiet&quot; kernel command line argument to hide kernel text
+</I>&gt;<i> - drakbug, draksec, drakxhelp, logdrake:
+</I>&gt;<i>   o fix displaying &quot;Mageia&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> - harddrake:
+</I>&gt;<i>   o fix detecting bluetooth devices
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) drakx-installer-stage2
+</I>&gt;<i> - better &quot;bootloader&quot; message (mga#484)
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix displaying &quot;Mageia&quot; in some messages
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> See you
+</I>
+does i18n need to be notified?
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>Thierry Vignaud skrev 23.3.2012 22:56:
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+&gt;<i> 1) drakxtools
+</I>&gt;<i> - drakauth:
+</I>&gt;<i>    o fix actually displaying &quot;Domain Windows for authentication&quot;
+</I>
+That's crappy english...
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+It should be: &quot;Windows domain for authentication&quot;
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+    <B>D.Morgan</B> 
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+    <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> 
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+    <B>Funda Wang</B> 
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+somebody may push raptor2 2.0.7, it fixes CVE-2012-0037, plus some other bugs.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Please push oxygen-gtk it bring back version 1.2.2 but with the
+</I>&gt;<i> regression fixed.
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+</I>&gt;<i> I tested and i can't reproduce the crashes ( like in mcc )
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> somebody may push raptor2 2.0.7, it fixes CVE-2012-0037, plus some other bugs.
+</I>
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/24 Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> We need the mf2pt1 package. It seems it's not included anymore (maybe never
+</I>&gt;<i> was) in texlive
+</I>&gt;<i> Packages that depend on it don't build
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
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+    <B>Julien</B> 
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+Read feeds with ext4. It's an old bug which plague liferea since ages.
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+Julien &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">julien.moragny at laposte.net</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Please push compiz 0.9.7.2, it's a bugfix release with fix for crash and
+</I>&gt;<i> bugs in input handling.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> When it's built, please push libcompizconfig (bzr429) which fix a crasher
+</I>&gt;<i> in shortcut handling. (not sure I can push it myself ?)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If noone beats me, I'll rebuild compiz-plugins-(main|extra) and
+</I>&gt;<i> compizconfig-python after that.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> regards
+</I>&gt;<i> Julien
+</I>
+Ping ?
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Well unionfs seemed to get different oops in each new version. Anyway
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think it should be done like this (having specific code for
+</I>&gt;<i> unionfs everywhere).
+</I>&gt;<i> I want to improve current chroot mode (like using a cgroup to easily
+</I>&gt;<i> kill all processes or set limits) and have a common api to allow other
+</I>&gt;<i> modes, like building in kvm for example, or using lvm/btrfs rw
+</I>&gt;<i> snapshots (which should be better supported than unionfs).
+</I>
+Then, we could maybe clean this in Chroot.pm:
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+sub add_local_user {
+    my ($chroot_tmp, $run, $config, $luser, $uid) = @_;
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+    # change the builder user to the local user id
+    # FIXME it seems that unionfs does not handle well the change of the
+    #       uid of files
+    # if (system(qq|sudo chroot $chroot_tmp usermod -u $run-&gt;{uid} builder|)) {
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+Though sadly we lost the actual commit that did that due to the 2007 crash
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+    <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/24 Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We need the mf2pt1 package. It seems it's not included anymore (maybe
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; never was) in texlive
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Packages that depend on it don't build
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thomas Spuhler
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> done
+</I>Ann I don't find it
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+    <B>Hugo Pereira Da Costa</B> 
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+<PRE>On 03/24/2012 10:20 AM, Anne nicolas wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/24 D.Morgan&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please push oxygen-gtk it bring back version 1.2.2 but with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> regression fixed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I tested and i can't reproduce the crashes ( like in mcc )
+</I>&gt;<i> Done
+</I>Hello,
+
+just to double-check,
+
+the new oxygen-gtk2 release should be oxygen-gtk2-1.2.2-1.tar.gz
+(available at 
+<A HREF="http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/oxygen-gtk2/1.2.2-1/src/oxygen-gtk2-1.2.2-1.tar.bz2">http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/oxygen-gtk2/1.2.2-1/src/oxygen-gtk2-1.2.2-1.tar.bz2</A>)
+
+Also I'd recommand to update oxygen-gtk3 (should be 
+oxygen-gtk3-1.0.2-1.tar.gz,
+available at 
+<A HREF="http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/oxygen-gtk3/1.0.2-1/src/oxygen-gtk3-1.0.2-1.tar.bz2">http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/oxygen-gtk3/1.0.2-1/src/oxygen-gtk3-1.0.2-1.tar.bz2</A>)
+since many of the issues with gtk3.3 have been fixed in this release.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Hugo
+
+&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> On 18 March 2012 10:51, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Well unionfs seemed to get different oops in each new version. Anyway
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I don't think it should be done like this (having specific code for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; unionfs everywhere).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I want to improve current chroot mode (like using a cgroup to easily
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; kill all processes or set limits) and have a common api to allow other
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; modes, like building in kvm for example, or using lvm/btrfs rw
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; snapshots (which should be better supported than unionfs).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then, we could maybe clean this in Chroot.pm:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> sub add_local_user {
+</I>&gt;<i>    my ($chroot_tmp, $run, $config, $luser, $uid) = @_;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    # change the builder user to the local user id
+</I>&gt;<i>    # FIXME it seems that unionfs does not handle well the change of the
+</I>&gt;<i>    #       uid of files
+</I>&gt;<i>    # if (system(qq|sudo chroot $chroot_tmp usermod -u $run-&gt;{uid}
+</I>&gt;<i> builder|)) {
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Though sadly we lost the actual commit that did that due to the 2007 crash
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes I noticed but this is a behavior change so I wanted to check more
+closely before doing it, if nothing relies on it
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+Why?
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+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Freeze%20push%20-%20drakx-installer-help%202.2%20and%20rebuild%0A%20drakx-installer-stage2&In-Reply-To=%3C4F6E36C0.4000901%40gmx.com%3E"
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+&gt;<i> On 22.03.2012 14:20, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please push new drakx-installer-help 2.2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - new version 2.2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * add new images: note.png tip.png and warning.png
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * fix typo in README (thanks Simon Parsons)
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And rebuild against new drakx-installer-help drakx-installer-stage2
+</I>&gt;<i> Please do NOT push it at the moment, the added icons are wrong and 
+</I>&gt;<i> shall be fixed soon.
+</I>OK, please push the package now! The icons are fixed.
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+    <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Mar 24, 2012 9:13 PM, &quot;Thomas Spuhler&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; please push clamav-0.97.4
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thomas Spuhler
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Why?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>it's an upgrade from 0.97.4
+We need to provide the newest version of the antivirus package
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 24/03/12 22:49 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Saturday, March 24, 2012 12:36:06 PM Sander Lepik wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mar 24, 2012 9:13 PM, &quot;Thomas Spuhler&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> please push clamav-0.97.4
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Spuhler
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;<i> it's an upgrade from 0.97.4
+</I>&gt;<i> We need to provide the newest version of the antivirus package
+</I>
+This, by itself, is not a very good explanation.
+
+If this is purely a definitions update then that's fine.
+If this is a bugfix update that's probably fine too (depending on the bug)
+If it's a new feature update then that likely won't make it.
+
+People are all very busy. It only takes the person requesting the push a
+minute or two to describe things properly. Please give your busy
+colleagues the respect they deserve and provide good explanations to
+save them having to spend time discussing and asking further questions.
+
+We still don't really have enough information to decide on this one!
+
+So please state whether it's just definitions or bugfix (and if so what
+bugs) etc.
+
+Col
+
+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Filipe Saraiva</B> 
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+I reported a bug in <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3554">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3554</A>
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+    <B>Julien</B> 
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+Julien &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">julien.moragny at laposte.net</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> Le Fri, 23 Mar 2012 10:33:09 +0100,
+</I>&gt;<i> Julien &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">julien.moragny at laposte.net</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Please push compiz 0.9.7.2, it's a bugfix release with fix for crash and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bugs in input handling.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; When it's built, please push libcompizconfig (bzr429) which fix a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; crasher in shortcut handling. (not sure I can push it myself ?)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If noone beats me, I'll rebuild compiz-plugins-(main|extra) and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; compizconfig-python after that.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; regards
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Julien
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Ping ?
+</I>
+I saw ennael pushed it and funda rebuilt plugins and config. Thanks to both
+of you.
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+regards
+Julien
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%09drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2&In-Reply-To=%3CCAONrEtZfBkVzx-PH4rRAgysBqbaTeKMyp%2BS3xMTwmfM1Gtwz5Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 14.1-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 226231
+</I>&gt;<i> - rebuild for new xfsprogs and btrfs-progs
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi
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+</I>&gt;<i> Please let in drakconf: latest translations
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+</I>&gt;<i> See you
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 24 March 2012 08:02, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Please let in drakconf: latest translations
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; See you
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+</I>&gt;<i> Ping?
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 22.03.2012 16:20, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 22.03.2012 14:20, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please push new drakx-installer-help 2.2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - new version 2.2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * add new images: note.png tip.png and warning.png
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * fix typo in README (thanks Simon Parsons)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And rebuild against new drakx-installer-help drakx-installer-stage2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please do NOT push it at the moment, the added icons are wrong and shall 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be fixed soon.
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, please push the package now! The icons are fixed.
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 25/03/12 11:48 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 25 March 2012 03:54, tmb &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 14.1-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 226231
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - rebuild for new xfsprogs and btrfs-progs
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> We need to actually include the fsck for btrfs...
+</I>
+Oh has it actually got a proper fsck now?
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+-- 
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Matteo</B> 
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+Hello,
+can somebody push scite 3.0.4?
+It fixes a lot of bugs (since our last version was 2.29,
+<A HREF="http://www.scintilla.org/ScintillaHistory.html">http://www.scintilla.org/ScintillaHistory.html</A>).
+Now it works fine even with gtk3 (version 3.0.3 fixed a gtk3 related bug
+about printing).
+This package is owned by anaselli cause it was built while he was
+mentoring me.
+Regards
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+Matteo
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 14.1-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 226231
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - rebuild for new xfsprogs and btrfs-progs
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We need to actually include the fsck for btrfs...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oh has it actually got a proper fsck now?
+</I>
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please push new drakx-installer-help 2.2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - new version 2.2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * add new images: note.png tip.png and warning.png
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * fix typo in README (thanks Simon Parsons)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And rebuild against new drakx-installer-help drakx-installer-stage2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please do NOT push it at the moment, the added icons are wrong and shall
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be fixed soon.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OK, please push the package now! The icons are fixed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Submitted.
+</I>
+You still need to rebuild d-i-stage2 now
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 25 March 2012 12:57, nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Please push new drakx-installer-help 2.2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; - new version 2.2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * add new images: note.png tip.png and warning.png
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; * fix typo in README (thanks Simon Parsons)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; And rebuild against new drakx-installer-help drakx-installer-stage2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Please do NOT push it at the moment, the added icons are wrong and shall
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; be fixed soon.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; OK, please push the package now! The icons are fixed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Submitted.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> You still need to rebuild d-i-stage2 now
+</I>
+drakx-installer-stage2 now submitted.
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 25 March 2012 13:04, Colin Guthrie&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tmb&lt;tmb&gt;  14.1-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 226231
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - rebuild for new xfsprogs and btrfs-progs
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We need to actually include the fsck for btrfs...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oh has it actually got a proper fsck now?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is what I understood after reading brtfs-progs changelog
+</I>
+Yep.
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+We are now using the &quot;dangerdonteveruse&quot; branch :)
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+wich is supposed to be the final rewrite of the btrfs-progs and was 
+scheduled for release around Feb 15th... (2012 if you wonder...)
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+I'm monitoring the btrfs@ ml and the upstream git tree to see if 
+problems/bugfixes show up, but seems pretty quiet regarding current code.
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+    <B>Julien</B> 
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+Julien &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">julien.moragny at laposte.net</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> please push liferea 1.8.3 which fix the UI freeze when updating or Mark as
+</I>&gt;<i> Read feeds with ext4. It's an old bug which plague liferea since ages.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> regards
+</I>&gt;<i> Julien
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We need to actually include the fsck for btrfs...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Oh has it actually got a proper fsck now?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is what I understood after reading brtfs-progs changelog
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We are now using the &quot;dangerdonteveruse&quot; branch :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> wich is supposed to be the final rewrite of the btrfs-progs and was
+</I>&gt;<i> scheduled for release around Feb 15th... (2012 if you wonder...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm monitoring the btrfs@ ml and the upstream git tree to see if
+</I>&gt;<i> problems/bugfixes show up, but seems pretty quiet regarding current code
+</I>for btrfs.
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+    <B>Remco Rijnders</B> 
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+<PRE>Dear all,
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+A brief update on our bug squashing efforts so far since the original blog 
+post went out. I realise in there we wrote that there would be daily 
+updates, but as there has been little news to report, I hope you can 
+forgive me for this. Now, with about 2/3rd of the weekend behind us, this 
+seems like a good time for an update.
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+The experiences so far have been mixed. We now have 7 more release 
+blockers than at the start of the weekend, with none closed since friday 
+afternoon. The uptake has been less than we had hoped for, but the upside 
+is that people are performing tests, and also that open bugs are being 
+reassesed as to their severity.
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+People have mostly been quietly working on 'their' bug reports, as they've 
+been doing all along. To all of them I want to express gratitude for their 
+ongoing work on making Mageia better. Also, over the course of the weekend 
+we have seen some new faces helping out in testing and adding their 
+comments to open bug reports. This is most welcome indeed!
+
+That no release blockers have been fixed yet is a bit of a shame, but that 
+does not mean that no work has been done on them. On several of the bugs 
+we have open we've seen promising progress in the past few days.
+
+If you are still willing to help out, I'd like to invite you to have a 
+look at our release blocking bugs [1], today, tomorrow, or even after this 
+party is over. For those of you testing the latest ISO's (beta 2), please 
+have a look at the known errata [2].
+
+Thank you all for your time and attention :-)
+
+Sincerely,
+
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">hugo at oxygen-icons.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 03/24/2012 10:20 AM, Anne nicolas wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/24 D.Morgan&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please push oxygen-gtk it bring back version 1.2.2 but with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> regression fixed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I tested and i can't reproduce the crashes ( like in mcc )
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Done
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> just to double-check,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the new oxygen-gtk2 release should be oxygen-gtk2-1.2.2-1.tar.gz
+</I>&gt;<i> (available at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/oxygen-gtk2/1.2.2-1/src/oxygen-gtk2-1.2.2-1.tar.bz2">http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/oxygen-gtk2/1.2.2-1/src/oxygen-gtk2-1.2.2-1.tar.bz2</A>)
+</I>
+yes this is the one i used
+
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also I'd recommand to update oxygen-gtk3 (should be
+</I>&gt;<i> oxygen-gtk3-1.0.2-1.tar.gz,
+</I>&gt;<i> available at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/oxygen-gtk3/1.0.2-1/src/oxygen-gtk3-1.0.2-1.tar.bz2">http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/oxygen-gtk3/1.0.2-1/src/oxygen-gtk3-1.0.2-1.tar.bz2</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> since many of the issues with gtk3.3 have been fixed in this release.
+</I>
+
+funda updated using this tarball too.
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+    <B>R&#233;mi Verschelde</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/25 Remco Rijnders &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">remco at webconquest.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you are still willing to help out, I'd like to invite you to have a look
+</I>&gt;<i> at our release blocking bugs [1], today, tomorrow, or even after this party
+</I>&gt;<i> is over. For those of you testing the latest ISO's (beta 2), please have a
+</I>&gt;<i> look at the known errata [2].
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Remmy forgot to add the links, so they should probably be:
+[1] <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?priority=release_blocker&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=REOPENED">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?priority=release_blocker&amp;bug_status=NEW&amp;bug_status=ASSIGNED&amp;bug_status=REOPENED</A>
+[2] <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata</A>
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+Regards,
+R&#233;mi / Akien
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Remco Rijnders at 25/03/12 13:29 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> The experiences so far have been mixed. We now have 7 more release
+</I>&gt;<i> blockers than at the start of the weekend, with none closed since friday
+</I>&gt;<i> afternoon. The uptake has been less than we had hoped for, but the
+</I>&gt;<i> upside is that people are performing tests, and also that open bugs are
+</I>&gt;<i> being reassesed as to their severity.
+</I>
+This isn't strictly true. e.g. there are some tracker bugs that are
+themselves release blockers and those tracker bugs then have bugs that
+block them. I've been busy fixing and closing a few bug reports that
+related to the systemd tracker for example:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120</A>
+
+&gt;<i> That no release blockers have been fixed yet is a bit of a shame, but
+</I>&gt;<i> that does not mean that no work has been done on them. On several of the
+</I>&gt;<i> bugs we have open we've seen promising progress in the past few days.
+</I>
+As per above, saying &quot;none closed since Friday&quot; or &quot;no release blockers
+have been fixed yet&quot; is actually not quite true. Sadly, of course, this
+means that when you expand out the bugs you probably now have a lot more
+real release blocking bugs than you previously thought! :D
+
+Col
+
+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Hugo Pereira Da Costa at 24/03/12 19:03 did gyre and
+gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 03/24/2012 10:20 AM, Anne nicolas wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/24 D.Morgan&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please push oxygen-gtk it bring back version 1.2.2 but with the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> regression fixed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I tested and i can't reproduce the crashes ( like in mcc )
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Done
+</I>&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> just to double-check,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> the new oxygen-gtk2 release should be oxygen-gtk2-1.2.2-1.tar.gz
+</I>&gt;<i> (available at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/oxygen-gtk2/1.2.2-1/src/oxygen-gtk2-1.2.2-1.tar.bz2">http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/oxygen-gtk2/1.2.2-1/src/oxygen-gtk2-1.2.2-1.tar.bz2</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Also I'd recommand to update oxygen-gtk3 (should be
+</I>&gt;<i> oxygen-gtk3-1.0.2-1.tar.gz,
+</I>&gt;<i> available at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/oxygen-gtk3/1.0.2-1/src/oxygen-gtk3-1.0.2-1.tar.bz2">http://download.kde.org/download.php?url=stable/oxygen-gtk3/1.0.2-1/src/oxygen-gtk3-1.0.2-1.tar.bz2</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> since many of the issues with gtk3.3 have been fixed in this release.
+</I>
+Just wanted to say a quick thank you Hugo for keeping us up-to-speed here :)
+
+Much appreciated!
+
+KUTGW!
+
+Col
+
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Angelo Naselli</B> 
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+<PRE>According to quazip changelog (here below) it's a bug fixing release.
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+mikala and me decided it should go on mga2, i tested applications
+that require it and seem not to have problems.
+ 
+QuaZIP changes
+
+* 2012-01-14 0.4.4
+        * Fixed isSequential() test that was causing open() failures on
+          Unix.
+        * Fixed sub-directory compressing in JlCompress.
+        * Added MS VS 2008 solution, compatible with the binary Qt
+          distribution (tested on MS VS 2008 Express, had to run MOC
+          manually due to the lack of plugin in Express).
+        * Fixed extracting directories in JlCompress.
+        * Fixed JlCompress.h includes in the test suite, which used
+          lowercase names thus breaking on case-sensitive systems.
+        * Implemented missing QuaZipFile::getZip() that was only
+          declared.
+        * Fixed reopening closed files.
+        * Fixed possible memory leak in case of open error.
+
+Thanks in advance,
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+    <B>Angelo Naselli</B> 
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+<PRE>In data domenica 25 marzo 2012 14:48:01, Julien ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there a mass rebuild planned before mageia 2 ? And if not, is there a
+</I>&gt;<i> value in rebuilding a package without update since 1 year ?
+</I>Can you point us the list? Maybe we can consider if they can go, or have to be 
+rebuild, or removed...
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+<PRE>Op zondag 25 maart 2012 00:21:36 schreef Colin Guthrie:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 24/03/12 22:49 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Saturday, March 24, 2012 12:36:06 PM Sander Lepik wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Mar 24, 2012 9:13 PM, &quot;Thomas Spuhler&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; please push clamav-0.97.4
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Thomas Spuhler
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Why?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Sander
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it's an upgrade from 0.97.4
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We need to provide the newest version of the antivirus package
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This, by itself, is not a very good explanation.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If this is purely a definitions update then that's fine.
+</I>&gt;<i> If this is a bugfix update that's probably fine too (depending on the bug)
+</I>&gt;<i> If it's a new feature update then that likely won't make it.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> People are all very busy. It only takes the person requesting the push a
+</I>&gt;<i> minute or two to describe things properly. Please give your busy
+</I>&gt;<i> colleagues the respect they deserve and provide good explanations to
+</I>&gt;<i> save them having to spend time discussing and asking further questions.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> We still don't really have enough information to decide on this one!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So please state whether it's just definitions or bugfix (and if so what
+</I>&gt;<i> bugs) etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+IIUC older clamav engines aren't supported, and stop working. but the reason 
+given was indeed not enough.
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+keep in mind that new features for this often means a security fix :-D
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+i think this'll likely go through, but the original poster should check to see 
+how things are, and report them accurately.
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+&gt;<i> In data domenica 25 marzo 2012 14:48:01, Julien ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is there a mass rebuild planned before mageia 2 ? And if not, is there a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; value in rebuilding a package without update since 1 year ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you point us the list? Maybe we can consider if they can go, or have
+</I>&gt;<i> to be
+</I>&gt;<i> rebuild, or removed...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That's one third of the packages
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+/distrib/mirror/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/*.mga1.src.rpm | wc -l
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+Please push new drakx-installer-help
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+Change log:
+- new tarball 2.3
+* update doc files (from 2012-03-23)
+* delete from README information that the doc files are available also 
+after installation
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+And then please rebuild drakx-installer-stage2 against the new 
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+<PRE>On 25.03.2012 17:20, Pascal Terjan wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 15:51, Angelo Naselli &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anaselli at linux.it</A> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anaselli at linux.it</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>     In data domenica 25 marzo 2012 14:48:01, Julien ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;<i>     &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>     &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>     &gt; Is there a mass rebuild planned before mageia 2 ? And if not, is
+</I>&gt;<i>     there a
+</I>&gt;<i>     &gt; value in rebuilding a package without update since 1 year ?
+</I>&gt;<i>     Can you point us the list? Maybe we can consider if they can go,
+</I>&gt;<i>     or have to be
+</I>&gt;<i>     rebuild, or removed...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's one third of the packages
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">schedbot at valstar</A> ~]$ ls 
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/mirror/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/*.mga1.src.rpm | wc -l
+</I>&gt;<i> 3420
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">schedbot at valstar</A> ~]$ ls 
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/mirror/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/*.mga2.src.rpm | wc -l
+</I>&gt;<i> 6479
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I have got a semi-automated script to do it.
+
+On 05.12.2011 15:26, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so... the long wait is over....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've submitted gcc-4.6.2-1.mga2 to core/release now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As soon as it's available on the primary mirror I'll invalidate the 
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron chroots on the BS to make sure the new gcc is used.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ater that I'll submit a new glibc and kernel so they are built with
+</I>&gt;<i> the new toolchain.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, we now have glibc &amp; the toolchain upgraded:
+</I>&gt;<i> - glibc is at 2.14.1 (available in cauldron since 2011-10-24)
+</I>&gt;<i> - binutils 2.22 (available in cauldron since 2011-11-28)
+</I>&gt;<i> - gcc-4.6.2 (available later today (2011-12-05)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, in order to provide a very good Mageia 2, every package should
+</I>&gt;<i> be rebuilt with the new toolchain/glibc in order to make sure they
+</I>&gt;<i> still build _and_ work correctly (and flush out any bugs in the
+</I>&gt;<i> toolchain)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now this rebuild should be done preferably in BR order when possible,
+</I>&gt;<i> to rule out bad interaction between packages and be preferably be
+</I>&gt;<i> fully done by alpha3 or beta1 at the latest so we have time to fix
+</I>&gt;<i> it properly for Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -- 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
+So we should focus not on the mga1 packages but not [re]bulded since 
+pushing the 4.6.2.
+
+On 06.12.2011 00:13, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+&gt;<i> 05.12.2011 16:26, Thomas Backlund skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so... the long wait is over....
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've submitted gcc-4.6.2-1.mga2 to core/release now.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As soon as it's available on the primary mirror I'll invalidate the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cauldron chroots on the BS to make sure the new gcc is used.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ater that I'll submit a new glibc and kernel so they are built with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the new toolchain.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> New gcc-4.6.2-1.mga2, glibc-2.14.1-3.mga2, kernel-3.1.4-2.mga2 are now 
+</I>&gt;<i> on the mirrors.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -- 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>So 6th December is the day when new toolchain landed on the mirrors and 
+all older packages should be rebuilt.
+
+I will prepare a tracker to monitor it according to the package 
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+<PRE>On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 17:07, Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> **
+</I>&gt;<i> On 25.03.2012 17:20, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 15:51, Angelo Naselli &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anaselli at linux.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In data domenica 25 marzo 2012 14:48:01, Julien ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Is there a mass rebuild planned before mageia 2 ? And if not, is there a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; value in rebuilding a package without update since 1 year ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  Can you point us the list? Maybe we can consider if they can go, or have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rebuild, or removed...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>  That's one third of the packages
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>  [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">schedbot at valstar</A> ~]$ ls
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/mirror/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/*.mga1.src.rpm | wc -l
+</I>&gt;<i>  3420
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">schedbot at valstar</A> ~]$ ls
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/mirror/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/*.mga2.src.rpm | wc -l
+</I>&gt;<i> 6479
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>  I have got a semi-automated script to do it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 05.12.2011 15:26, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so... the long wait is over....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've submitted gcc-4.6.2-1.mga2 to core/release now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As soon as it's available on the primary mirror I'll invalidate the
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron chroots on the BS to make sure the new gcc is used.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ater that I'll submit a new glibc and kernel so they are built with
+</I>&gt;<i> the new toolchain.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, we now have glibc &amp; the toolchain upgraded:
+</I>&gt;<i> - glibc is at 2.14.1 (available in cauldron since 2011-10-24)
+</I>&gt;<i> - binutils 2.22 (available in cauldron since 2011-11-28)
+</I>&gt;<i> - gcc-4.6.2 (available later today (2011-12-05)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, in order to provide a very good Mageia 2, every package should
+</I>&gt;<i> be rebuilt with the new toolchain/glibc in order to make sure they
+</I>&gt;<i> still build _and_ work correctly (and flush out any bugs in the
+</I>&gt;<i> toolchain)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Now this rebuild should be done preferably in BR order when possible,
+</I>&gt;<i> to rule out bad interaction between packages and be preferably be
+</I>&gt;<i> fully done by alpha3 or beta1 at the latest so we have time to fix
+</I>&gt;<i> it properly for Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So we should focus not on the mga1 packages but not [re]bulded since
+</I>&gt;<i> pushing the 4.6.2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 06.12.2011 00:13, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 05.12.2011 16:26, Thomas Backlund skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so... the long wait is over....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've submitted gcc-4.6.2-1.mga2 to core/release now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As soon as it's available on the primary mirror I'll invalidate the
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron chroots on the BS to make sure the new gcc is used.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ater that I'll submit a new glibc and kernel so they are built with
+</I>&gt;<i> the new toolchain.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> New gcc-4.6.2-1.mga2, glibc-2.14.1-3.mga2, kernel-3.1.4-2.mga2 are now on
+</I>&gt;<i> the mirrors.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So 6th December is the day when new toolchain landed on the mirrors and
+</I>&gt;<i> all older packages should be rebuilt.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I will prepare a tracker to monitor it according to the package
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainership. :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+Rebuilding half of the distribution now seems the best way to add bugs
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+&gt;<i> According to quazip changelog (here below) it's a bug fixing release.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> mikala and me decided it should go on mga2, i tested applications
+</I>&gt;<i> that require it and seem not to have problems.
+</I>&gt;<i>  
+</I>&gt;<i> QuaZIP changes
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> * 2012-01-14 0.4.4
+</I>&gt;<i>         * Fixed isSequential() test that was causing open() failures on
+</I>&gt;<i>           Unix.
+</I>&gt;<i>         * Fixed sub-directory compressing in JlCompress.
+</I>&gt;<i>         * Added MS VS 2008 solution, compatible with the binary Qt
+</I>&gt;<i>           distribution (tested on MS VS 2008 Express, had to run MOC
+</I>&gt;<i>           manually due to the lack of plugin in Express).
+</I>&gt;<i>         * Fixed extracting directories in JlCompress.
+</I>&gt;<i>         * Fixed JlCompress.h includes in the test suite, which used
+</I>&gt;<i>           lowercase names thus breaking on case-sensitive systems.
+</I>&gt;<i>         * Implemented missing QuaZipFile::getZip() that was only
+</I>&gt;<i>           declared.
+</I>&gt;<i>         * Fixed reopening closed files.
+</I>&gt;<i>         * Fixed possible memory leak in case of open error.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks in advance,
+</I>
+Submitted.
+
+-- 
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+<PRE>25.03.2012 19:16, Anssi Hannula kirjoitti:
+&gt;<i> 25.03.2012 17:50, Angelo Naselli kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> According to quazip changelog (here below) it's a bug fixing release.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mikala and me decided it should go on mga2, i tested applications
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that require it and seem not to have problems.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> QuaZIP changes
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * 2012-01-14 0.4.4
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>         * Fixed isSequential() test that was causing open() failures on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>           Unix.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>         * Fixed sub-directory compressing in JlCompress.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>         * Added MS VS 2008 solution, compatible with the binary Qt
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>           distribution (tested on MS VS 2008 Express, had to run MOC
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>           manually due to the lack of plugin in Express).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>         * Fixed extracting directories in JlCompress.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>         * Fixed JlCompress.h includes in the test suite, which used
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>           lowercase names thus breaking on case-sensitive systems.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>         * Implemented missing QuaZipFile::getZip() that was only
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>           declared.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>         * Fixed reopening closed files.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>         * Fixed possible memory leak in case of open error.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks in advance,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Submitted.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
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+    <B>Luc Menut</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;<i>     226393
+</I>&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;<i>     colin
+</I>
+[...]
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +%triggerpostun backend -- drakxtools-backend&lt;  14.1-2
+</I>&gt;<i> +if [ -w /boot/grub/menu.lst ]; then
+</I>&gt;<i> +  if grep -q splash= /boot/grub/menu.lst; then
+</I>&gt;<i> +    echo&quot;Migrating kernel commandline bootsplash arguments in grub&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> +    sed -i 's/ splash=silent / splash quiet /;s/ splash=silent$/ splash quiet/;s/ splash=verbose / /;s/ splash=verbose$//;' /boot/grub/menu.lst
+</I>&gt;<i> +  fi
+</I>&gt;<i> +fi
+</I>&gt;<i> +
+</I>
+IIUC this script, you update splash=silent &amp; splash=verbose in 
+/boot/grub/menu.lst for all the lines.
+What happens if we have entries for mga1 or other distros in the same 
+grub menu.lst ?
+Aren't you going to break all these entries with such update?
+
+Personaly, I use the same /boot/grub/menu.lst for mga 1 and cauldron.
+
+regards,
+Luc
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+Angelo Naselli &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anaselli at linux.it</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> In data domenica 25 marzo 2012 14:48:01, Julien ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is there a mass rebuild planned before mageia 2 ? And if not, is there a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; value in rebuilding a package without update since 1 year ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you point us the list? Maybe we can consider if they can go, or have
+</I>&gt;<i> to be rebuild, or removed...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+I don't have a specific list, I just have a package (lsdvd) which hasn't be
+modified since 11 months (no bug reported, no upstream release, etc.) and I
+asked myself if it has value to rebuild it.
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+When looking at <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4177">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4177</A> I noticed
+that libgphoto would need updated to support that camera model:
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+<A HREF="http://gphoto.org/news/">http://gphoto.org/news/</A>
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+The version above what we have is supports these new cameras:
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+    Kodak C1530
+    Sony DSC-HX100V, DSC-A1000, SLT-A55
+    Nikon CoolPix P7000, P7100, P500, L120, L23, S5100, S3100,
+    Nikon D2Hs, D5100
+    Canon EOS 10D, 1D Mark IV, 1100D, 600D
+    Canon PowerShot A2000IS, A3100IS,
+    Fuji FinePix F80EXR, X10
+    Apple iPad, iPhone 4
+    Panasonic DMC-TZ18, TZ20
+
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+This is a relatively edge package. Should we consider upgrading it and
+pushing it through freeze?
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+I've built the package locally and it builds without any issues or
+complications.
+
+Thoughts?
+
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Now, in order to provide a very good Mageia 2, every package should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be rebuilt with the new toolchain/glibc in order to make sure they
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> still build _and_ work correctly (and flush out any bugs in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> toolchain)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now this rebuild should be done preferably in BR order when possible,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to rule out bad interaction between packages and be preferably be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fully done by alpha3 or beta1 at the latest so we have time to fix
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it properly for Mageia 2.
+</I>
+(...)
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+&gt;<i> Rebuilding half of the distribution now seems the best way to add bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> before the release...
+</I>
+On the other hand, we my got bugs introduced when pushing a security
+update due to the new toolchain not having been tested with those
+packages...
+Or having packages not rebuilding when patching them for security
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 25 March 2012 18:15, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Now, in order to provide a very good Mageia 2, every package should
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; be rebuilt with the new toolchain/glibc in order to make sure they
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; still build _and_ work correctly (and flush out any bugs in the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; toolchain)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Now this rebuild should be done preferably in BR order when possible,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to rule out bad interaction between packages and be preferably be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; fully done by alpha3 or beta1 at the latest so we have time to fix
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; it properly for Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (...)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Rebuilding half of the distribution now seems the best way to add bugs
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; before the release...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On the other hand, we my got bugs introduced when pushing a security
+</I>&gt;<i> update due to the new toolchain not having been tested with those
+</I>&gt;<i> packages...
+</I>&gt;<i> Or having packages not rebuilding when patching them for security
+</I>&gt;<i> fixes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes but I think it's something that should have been done after toolchain
+was updated in december, or at latest around beta1/version freeze, not 2
+weeks before the release candidate
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+    <B>Funda Wang</B> 
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+<PRE>Maybe we could filter out those noarch packages, esp those perl modules.
+
+2012/3/26 Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 18:11, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 25 March 2012 18:15, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Now, in order to provide a very good Mageia 2, every package should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; be rebuilt with the new toolchain/glibc in order to make sure they
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; still build _and_ work correctly (and flush out any bugs in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; toolchain)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Now this rebuild should be done preferably in BR order when possible,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to rule out bad interaction between packages and be preferably be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; fully done by alpha3 or beta1 at the latest so we have time to fix
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; it properly for Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (...)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Rebuilding half of the distribution now seems the best way to add bugs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; before the release...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On the other hand, we my got bugs introduced when pushing a security
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> update due to the new toolchain not having been tested with those
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Or having packages not rebuilding when patching them for security
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes but I think it's something that should have been done after toolchain
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+</I>&gt;<i> weeks before the release candidate
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+    <B>Angelo Naselli</B> 
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+</I>argh, i forgot cmake dep, sorry.
+Should be ok now.
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+</I>I could give it to you if there's a problem since you're maintaining it.... :)
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Build failure.
+</I>&gt;<i> argh, i forgot cmake dep, sorry.
+</I>&gt;<i> Should be ok now.
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> Maybe we could filter out those noarch packages, esp those perl modules.
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">schedbot at valstar</A> ~]$ urpmf --use-distrib
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 18:26, Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe we could filter out those noarch packages, esp those perl modules.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">schedbot at valstar</A> ~]$ urpmf --use-distrib
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+</I>&gt;<i> sort -u | wc -l
+</I>&gt;<i> 912
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+This is not doable now. Freeze time, it should have been done much
+before. Please focus on bug reports in Bugzilla
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+-- 
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+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Luc Menut at 25/03/12 17:35 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 25/03/2012 17:45, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>      226393
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>      colin
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +%triggerpostun backend -- drakxtools-backend&lt;   14.1-2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +if [ -w /boot/grub/menu.lst ]; then
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +  if grep -q splash= /boot/grub/menu.lst; then
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +    echo&quot;Migrating kernel commandline bootsplash arguments in grub&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +    sed -i 's/ splash=silent / splash quiet /;s/ splash=silent$/
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> splash quiet/;s/ splash=verbose / /;s/ splash=verbose$//;'
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /boot/grub/menu.lst
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +  fi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +fi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IIUC this script, you update splash=silent&amp;  splash=verbose in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /boot/grub/menu.lst for all the lines.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What happens if we have entries for mga1 or other distros in the same
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> grub menu.lst ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Aren't you going to break all these entries with such update?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Personaly, I use the same /boot/grub/menu.lst for mga 1 and cauldron.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah, good point.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any suggestions on how to do this more gracefully?
+</I>
+Nope.
+
+Is this trigger needed for an upgrade mga1-&gt;mga2? or is it only for 
+cauldron update?
+If it's only for cauldron, I think that it would be safer to drop the 
+trigger.
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le 25/03/2012 17:45, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     226393
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     colin
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +%triggerpostun backend -- drakxtools-backend&lt;  14.1-2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +if [ -w /boot/grub/menu.lst ]; then
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +  if grep -q splash= /boot/grub/menu.lst; then
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +    echo&quot;Migrating kernel commandline bootsplash arguments in grub&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +    sed -i 's/ splash=silent / splash quiet /;s/ splash=silent$/
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> splash quiet/;s/ splash=verbose / /;s/ splash=verbose$//;'
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /boot/grub/menu.lst
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +  fi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +fi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> IIUC this script, you update splash=silent &amp; splash=verbose in
+</I>&gt;<i> /boot/grub/menu.lst for all the lines.
+</I>&gt;<i> What happens if we have entries for mga1 or other distros in the same
+</I>&gt;<i> grub menu.lst ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Aren't you going to break all these entries with such update?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Personaly, I use the same /boot/grub/menu.lst for mga 1 and cauldron.
+</I>
+Yeah, good point.
+
+Any suggestions on how to do this more gracefully?
+
+Col
+
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+-- 
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+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Luc Menut at 25/03/12 20:55 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Le 25/03/2012 19:08, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Luc Menut at 25/03/12 17:35 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 25/03/2012 17:45, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>      226393
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>      colin
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +%triggerpostun backend -- drakxtools-backend&lt;   14.1-2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +if [ -w /boot/grub/menu.lst ]; then
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +  if grep -q splash= /boot/grub/menu.lst; then
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +    echo&quot;Migrating kernel commandline bootsplash arguments in grub&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +    sed -i 's/ splash=silent / splash quiet /;s/ splash=silent$/
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> splash quiet/;s/ splash=verbose / /;s/ splash=verbose$//;'
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /boot/grub/menu.lst
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +  fi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +fi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> IIUC this script, you update splash=silent&amp;  splash=verbose in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /boot/grub/menu.lst for all the lines.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What happens if we have entries for mga1 or other distros in the same
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> grub menu.lst ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Aren't you going to break all these entries with such update?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Personaly, I use the same /boot/grub/menu.lst for mga 1 and cauldron.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yeah, good point.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any suggestions on how to do this more gracefully?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Nope.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Is this trigger needed for an upgrade mga1-&gt;mga2? or is it only for
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron update?
+</I>&gt;<i> If it's only for cauldron, I think that it would be safer to drop the
+</I>&gt;<i> trigger.
+</I>
+Yeah, it's needed for mga1 -&gt; mga2 upgrade.
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+Col
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+&gt;<i> Personaly, I use the same /boot/grub/menu.lst for mga 1 and cauldron.
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+That's a very rare usage.
+Most users won't do that.
+Those who do should be able to fix the mga1 entry IMHO.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 25/03/12 20:56 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Luc Menut at 25/03/12 20:55 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 25/03/2012 19:08, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Luc Menut at 25/03/12 17:35 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 25/03/2012 17:45, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>      226393
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>      colin
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +%triggerpostun backend -- drakxtools-backend&lt;   14.1-2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +if [ -w /boot/grub/menu.lst ]; then
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +  if grep -q splash= /boot/grub/menu.lst; then
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +    echo&quot;Migrating kernel commandline bootsplash arguments in grub&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +    sed -i 's/ splash=silent / splash quiet /;s/ splash=silent$/
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> splash quiet/;s/ splash=verbose / /;s/ splash=verbose$//;'
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /boot/grub/menu.lst
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +  fi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +fi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> IIUC this script, you update splash=silent&amp;  splash=verbose in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /boot/grub/menu.lst for all the lines.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What happens if we have entries for mga1 or other distros in the same
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> grub menu.lst ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Aren't you going to break all these entries with such update?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Personaly, I use the same /boot/grub/menu.lst for mga 1 and cauldron.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yeah, good point.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any suggestions on how to do this more gracefully?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nope.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is this trigger needed for an upgrade mga1-&gt;mga2? or is it only for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cauldron update?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If it's only for cauldron, I think that it would be safer to drop the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> trigger.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Yeah, it's needed for mga1 -&gt; mga2 upgrade.
+</I>
+I guess the regexp could look for:
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+\(vmlinuz\( \|-3.3[^ ]*\) .*\) splash=silent
+
+But that might not catch some variations.
+
+I'd be tempted to say &quot;sod it&quot; as per Thierry's message. I guess chain
+loading grubs is maybe more common on dual setups?
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+Col
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+&gt;<i> On 25 March 2012 18:35, Luc Menut&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lmenut at free.fr</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Personaly, I use the same /boot/grub/menu.lst for mga 1 and cauldron.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's a very rare usage.
+</I>&gt;<i> Most users won't do that.
+</I>&gt;<i> Those who do should be able to fix the mga1 entry IMHO.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+using many distros on the same system is not so uncommon.
+Is the installer chain load grub by default if another distro is already 
+installed on the system? or does it add mga entries on the existing grub 
+config?
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+    <B>Angelo Naselli</B> 
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+</I>&gt;<i> before. Please focus on bug reports in Bugzilla
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+Well who thinks some mga1 packages here in the outcoming mga2 
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+a &quot;bug fixing rebuilding&quot; :)
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+<PRE>Isnt it better that each maintainer rebuild his packages by his own? Using self criteria
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+Enviado desde mi tel&#233;fono Verizon Wireless
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+-----Mensaje original-----
+De: Angelo Naselli &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anaselli at linux.it</A>&gt;
+Para: Mageia development mailing-list &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+Enviado: dom, mar 25, 2012 21:16:45 GMT+00:00
+Asunto: Re: [Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
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+&gt;<i> This is not doable now. Freeze time, it should have been done much
+</I>&gt;<i> before. Please focus on bug reports in Bugzilla
+</I>
+Well who thinks some mga1 packages here in the outcoming mga2 
+and not been rebuilt, has problems could add a bug report for that to allow 
+a &quot;bug fixing rebuilding&quot; :)
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+&gt;<i> Florian Hubold &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">doktor5000 at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 20.03.2012 10:36, schrieb David Walser:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Minor foomatic-filters update (4.0.14) contains just one change, should be
+</I>&gt;<i> safe to go in:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 	* foomaticrip.c: If the input data is PDF but the driver requires
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 	  PostScript, use the pdftops CUPS filter when CUPS is the spooler.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 	  This way we always use the same method to convert PDF to PostScript
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 	  in the whole system, including any workarounds applied in the CUPS
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; 	  filter.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Confirmed that it builds and installs fine locally.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, does it also work just fine?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes.  Thanks for asking and sorry I didn't mention it earlier.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I tested this at work printing PDFs to a printer configured to use PostScript
+</I>&gt;<i> and it works fine.
+</I>
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dlucio at okay.com.mx</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Isnt it better that each maintainer rebuild his packages by his own? Using
+</I>&gt;<i> self criteria
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+this is too late now, we need to fix bugs, the release critical now
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+<PRE>Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Maarten Vanraes at 23/03/12 17:39 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ( see <A HREF="https://mariadb.atlassian.net/secure/Dashboard.jspa">https://mariadb.atlassian.net/secure/Dashboard.jspa</A> , look at road map )
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> MariaDB RC 5.5.22	29/Mar/12
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> MariaDB GA 5.5.23	09/Apr/12
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that means that the GA (final release) is 2 days after release freeze :-(
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (not counting any possible extra delays)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> however, i would like to have the final release and not the release candidate.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> any thoughts on this?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, sh1t happens... We'll just have to go with the RC and we can
+</I>&gt;<i> always issue an update to the final release afterwards. I don't think
+</I>&gt;<i> this is a huge problem. If there happen to be delays for other reasons
+</I>&gt;<i> we can maybe push it in, but I wouldn't bank on it!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+As a matter of fact, I've noticed lately Mandriva issuing updates to newer versions of mysql for non-security reasons.  Apparently they make 
+an exception to the no version updates policy for this package now (obviously they keep the updates within the same stable branch).  Perhaps 
+we could too for mariadb.  Not saying we definitely should, I don't follow mysql/mariadb development.
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+<PRE>Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 25.03.2012 17:20, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 15:51, Angelo Naselli &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anaselli at linux.it</A> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anaselli at linux.it</A>&gt;&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     In data domenica 25 marzo 2012 14:48:01, Julien ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     &gt; Is there a mass rebuild planned before mageia 2 ? And if not, is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     there a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     &gt; value in rebuilding a package without update since 1 year ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     Can you point us the list? Maybe we can consider if they can go,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     or have to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     rebuild, or removed...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's one third of the packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">schedbot at valstar</A> ~]$ ls 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/mirror/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/*.mga1.src.rpm | wc -l
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3420
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">schedbot at valstar</A> ~]$ ls 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/mirror/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/*.mga2.src.rpm | wc -l
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 6479
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have got a semi-automated script to do it.
+</I>
+It's too late to do a mass rebuilding, of course, but if you have a script that does it, it would be useful if you ran it locally and report 
+which packages now fail to build.  Those ones should be fixed.
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Primary reason for requesting this is a fix for MMC/SD cards.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://cgit.freedesktop.org/udisks/commit/?id=3b277903af128fb632897d8932fe300f216ead38">http://cgit.freedesktop.org/udisks/commit/?id=3b277903af128fb632897d8932fe300f216ead38</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Misc small fixes also included. This is really a part of the
+</I>&gt;<i> infrastructure needed by GNOME3, so I presume it's covered by the same
+</I>&gt;<i> version freeze escaping policy, but if not, please shout and I'll revert
+</I>&gt;<i> and cherry-pick patches instead.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
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+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Primary reason for requesting this is a fix for MMC/SD cards.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://cgit.freedesktop.org/udisks/commit/?id=3b277903af128fb632897d8932fe300f216ead38">http://cgit.freedesktop.org/udisks/commit/?id=3b277903af128fb632897d8932fe300f216ead38</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Misc small fixes also included. This is really a part of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> infrastructure needed by GNOME3, so I presume it's covered by the same
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> version freeze escaping policy, but if not, please shout and I'll revert
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and cherry-pick patches instead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Ping?
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+    <B>Funda Wang</B> 
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+    <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B> 
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+&gt;<i> I'm afraid yes, cairo is a base library for all gtk2/3 apps. We cannot
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+Well, I understand.
+Anyways, as src.rpm was pretty simple, I rebuilt it locally and works
+pretty fine. I think things got a bit smoother, but anyways it can be
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+Just for the record, it built without any problem. I just replaced
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/26 JA Magall&#243;n&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jamagallon at ono.com</A>&gt;:
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+It's a bugfix release from 5.8.8 which lost data.
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+&quot;There was an important flaw in 5.8.8 that caused disk queue content to
+be lost after a shutdown and restart of rsyslogd. So if you run this
+version, an upgrade to 5.8.9 is highly suggested.&quot;
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+<A HREF="http://www.rsyslog.com/rsyslog-5-8-9-v5-stable-released/">http://www.rsyslog.com/rsyslog-5-8-9-v5-stable-released/</A>
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+Col
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and JA Magall&#243;n at 25/03/12 23:59 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> And I found that there was a plf flag in the spec (to enable font aa),
+</I>&gt;<i> but we have no tainted build, I think. I have tainted repos enabled but
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmi just installs the standard version.
+</I>
+Is that needed these days? I thought things were OK for AA fonts these
+days... or is it only partially the case?
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Please push rsyslog.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It's a bugfix release from 5.8.8 which lost data.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;There was an important flaw in 5.8.8 that caused disk queue content to
+</I>&gt;<i> be lost after a shutdown and restart of rsyslogd. So if you run this
+</I>&gt;<i> version, an upgrade to 5.8.9 is highly suggested.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.rsyslog.com/rsyslog-5-8-9-v5-stable-released/">http://www.rsyslog.com/rsyslog-5-8-9-v5-stable-released/</A>
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+Please let in perl_checker
+It enables to have better reporting on iurt, installer &amp; drakxtools
+code in order to find issues.
+Which we sadly find since there were commiters not using perl_checker
+in the previous year :-(
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+Detailed log:
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+  o add RPM4 (for eg: iurt)
+  o update Net::FTP for installer
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+  o recognize \B in regexps
+  o recognize -p (pipe test) &amp; -S (socket test)
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+    <B>David W. Hodgins</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20How%20should%20packages%20with%20version%20in%20name%20be%20handled%3F&In-Reply-To=%3Cop.wbq3hh14n7mcit%40hodgins.homeip.net%3E"
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+<PRE>I've started qa testing upgrading from Mageia 1 to
+Cauldron, to ensure going from Mageia 1 to 2 will
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+I'm running into a some cases like
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5103">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5103</A>
+where Mageia 1 has libchamplain-gtk0.8_1
+   and Cauldron has libchamplain-gtk0.12_0
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+As the packages contain version numbers in the package name,
+urpmi is not treating it as a package update, which results
+in messages such as
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+The following packages have to be removed for others to be upgraded:
+libchamplain-gtk0.8_1-0.8.3-1.mga1.i586
+  (due to missing libclutter-gtk-0.10.so.0)
+libchamplain0.8_1-0.8.3-1.mga1.i586
+  (due to missing libclutter-glx-1.0.so.0)
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+Am I correct in thinking that adding an obsoletes of
+libchamplain-gtk0.8_1 to libchamplain-gtk0.12_0 would
+get urpmi to remove it without generating the above
+message?
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+If so, should I be opening bug reports for each of these
+cases, or should it be left as is, and simply tell the
+users to go ahead and answer yes to the prompt?
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+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+    <I>Mon Mar 26 02:36:33 CEST 2012</I>
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+&gt;<i> Hi!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please push mgaonline.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - new tarball 2.77.32
+</I>&gt;<i> * stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org (mga#1590)
+</I>&gt;<i> * replace Mandriva strings by Mageia in gnome-mandrakeonline.desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> * replace MIME Type application/x-mdv-exec by application/x-mga-exec
+</I>&gt;<i> * extend $MGA_YEARS in mgaupdate to 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> * delete MANDRIVA_VERSION variable as not used
+</I>&gt;<i> - replace obsolete drakx-newt with drakxtools-curses
+</I>&gt;<i> - stop using MANDRIVA_VERSION in %install
+</I>&gt;<i> - rename mandriva-mgaonline.desktop with mageia-mgaonline.desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> - clean Categories in the .desktop file (remove X-Mandriva-* entry)
+</I>&gt;<i> - remove %update_desktop_database and %clean_desktop_database (not used anymore)
+</I>&gt;<i> - remove %update_mime_database and %clean_mime_database (not used anymore)
+</I>&gt;<i> - clean .spec
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+    <B>Frank Griffin</B> 
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+upgrades in cauldron have a bad habit of regressing changes to 
+configurations and preferences.  With every major upgrade, the fact that 
+I've disabled the screensaver gets forgotten.  Sound volume keeps 
+resetting to 1%.  Changes I've made to konsole settings to patch the yet 
+unfixed bug that sets vertical terminal dimensions to the screen maximum 
+get undone.
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+This stuff isn't critical for cauldron upgrades, but it will be for 
+release upgrades if peoples' existing KDE preferences get trampled on 
+indiscriminately.  There probably ought to be a review of what the RPMs 
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+    <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 24/03/12 22:49 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Saturday, March 24, 2012 12:36:06 PM Sander Lepik wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Mar 24, 2012 9:13 PM, &quot;Thomas Spuhler&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; please push clamav-0.97.4
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Thomas Spuhler
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Why?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; --
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Sander
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it's an upgrade from 0.97.4
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We need to provide the newest version of the antivirus package
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This, by itself, is not a very good explanation.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If this is purely a definitions update then that's fine.
+</I>&gt;<i> If this is a bugfix update that's probably fine too (depending on the bug)
+</I>&gt;<i> If it's a new feature update then that likely won't make it.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> People are all very busy. It only takes the person requesting the push a
+</I>&gt;<i> minute or two to describe things properly. Please give your busy
+</I>&gt;<i> colleagues the respect they deserve and provide good explanations to
+</I>&gt;<i> save them having to spend time discussing and asking further questions.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> We still don't really have enough information to decide on this one!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So please state whether it's just definitions or bugfix (and if so what
+</I>&gt;<i> bugs) etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>Sorry, I was busy last night and today with non Linux related staff and wanted 
+to give this as much time as possible to be tested
+The upgrade isn't necessarily needed. The new package provides some bug fixes 
+as provieded on their web site. See below.
+But if we don't do it, users will soon after the release get the message they 
+your clamav version is outdated. Do we want that?
+
+********************
+ClamAV 0.97.4 has been released!
+
+March 19th, 2012 Posted by - webmaster
+
+ClamAV 0.97.4 includes minor bugfixes, detection improvements and
+initial support for on-access scanning under Mac OS X (see
+contrib/ClamAuth).
+
+This update is recommended for all users.
+
+*****************************************
+
+-- 
+Best regards
+Thomas Spuhler
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+    <B>Remco Rijnders</B> 
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+<PRE>On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 03:42:33PM +0100, Colin wrote in 
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">4F6F2ED9.4060409 at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>'Twas brillig, and Remco Rijnders at 25/03/12 13:29 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The experiences so far have been mixed. We now have 7 more release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> blockers than at the start of the weekend, with none closed since friday
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> afternoon. The uptake has been less than we had hoped for, but the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> upside is that people are performing tests, and also that open bugs are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> being reassesed as to their severity.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>This isn't strictly true. e.g. there are some tracker bugs that are
+</I>&gt;<i>themselves release blockers and those tracker bugs then have bugs that
+</I>&gt;<i>block them. I've been busy fixing and closing a few bug reports that
+</I>&gt;<i>related to the systemd tracker for example:
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That no release blockers have been fixed yet is a bit of a shame, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that does not mean that no work has been done on them. On several of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bugs we have open we've seen promising progress in the past few days.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>As per above, saying &quot;none closed since Friday&quot; or &quot;no release blockers
+</I>&gt;<i>have been fixed yet&quot; is actually not quite true. Sadly, of course, this
+</I>&gt;<i>means that when you expand out the bugs you probably now have a lot more
+</I>&gt;<i>real release blocking bugs than you previously thought! :D
+</I>
+Hi Colin,
+
+Thanks for the clarification on what I wrote. Indeed, I did not go in to 
+recursively check the tracker bugs. That said, I hope my original message 
+was sufficiently clear that uptake of the bug squash party was less than I 
+had hoped for while still recognising people did work on open bug reports 
+on the weekend. Your efforts, as always, were noticed and much appreciated 
+:<i>-)
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+&gt;<i> using many distros on the same system is not so uncommon.
+</I>
+This is not the same. We are talking about using the same config file 
+for 2 distros.
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+&gt;<i> Is the installer chain load grub by default if another distro is already
+</I>&gt;<i> installed on the system? or does it add mga entries on the existing grub
+</I>&gt;<i> config?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Installer defaults to always adds grub to MBR.
+It adds an entry that points to other Mageia config files :
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+title Mageia (Official)
+root (hd0,6)
+configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> As a matter of fact, I've noticed lately Mandriva issuing updates to newer
+</I>&gt;<i> versions of mysql for non-security reasons.  Apparently they make
+</I>&gt;<i> an exception to the no version updates policy for this package now
+</I>&gt;<i> (obviously they keep the updates within the same stable branch).  Perhaps
+</I>&gt;<i> we could too for mariadb.  Not saying we definitely should, I don't follow
+</I>&gt;<i> mysql/mariadb development.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>well, it's more that the rc release will not be supported and the GA
+release will only contain bugfixes in difference to rc...
+
+if they are security related or cricital, that's to be seen at the time...
+
+but mysql/mariadb versioning is a bit odd...
+
+they consider that after the Beta release no new features will be included
+into the same branch (ie: 5.5)
+
+iow, all new versions greater than 5.5.21 in the 5.5 branch are bugfix
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+    <B>Anne Nicolas</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 26/03/2012 05:39, Thomas Spuhler a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Saturday, March 24, 2012 04:21:36 PM Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 24/03/12 22:49 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Saturday, March 24, 2012 12:36:06 PM Sander Lepik wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Mar 24, 2012 9:13 PM, &quot;Thomas Spuhler&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> please push clamav-0.97.4
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Spuhler
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Why?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it's an upgrade from 0.97.4
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We need to provide the newest version of the antivirus package
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This, by itself, is not a very good explanation.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If this is purely a definitions update then that's fine.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If this is a bugfix update that's probably fine too (depending on the bug)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If it's a new feature update then that likely won't make it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> People are all very busy. It only takes the person requesting the push a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> minute or two to describe things properly. Please give your busy
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> colleagues the respect they deserve and provide good explanations to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> save them having to spend time discussing and asking further questions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We still don't really have enough information to decide on this one!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So please state whether it's just definitions or bugfix (and if so what
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bugs) etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry, I was busy last night and today with non Linux related staff and wanted 
+</I>&gt;<i> to give this as much time as possible to be tested
+</I>&gt;<i> The upgrade isn't necessarily needed. The new package provides some bug fixes 
+</I>&gt;<i> as provieded on their web site. See below.
+</I>&gt;<i> But if we don't do it, users will soon after the release get the message they 
+</I>&gt;<i> your clamav version is outdated. Do we want that?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> ********************
+</I>&gt;<i> ClamAV 0.97.4 has been released!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> March 19th, 2012 Posted by - webmaster
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> ClamAV 0.97.4 includes minor bugfixes, detection improvements and
+</I>&gt;<i> initial support for on-access scanning under Mac OS X (see
+</I>&gt;<i> contrib/ClamAuth).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This update is recommended for all users.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> *****************************************
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+
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+Anne
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>
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+<PRE>domenica 25 marzo 2012 alle 23:31, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> Isnt it better that each maintainer rebuild his packages by his own? Using self criteria
+</I>well imo it should have been :) since it's late now...
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+&gt;<i> Well unionfs seemed to get different oops in each new version. Anyway
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't think it should be done like this (having specific code for
+</I>&gt;<i> unionfs everywhere).
+</I>&gt;<i> I want to improve current chroot mode (like using a cgroup to easily
+</I>&gt;<i> kill all processes or set limits) and have a common api to allow other
+</I>&gt;<i> modes, like building in kvm for example, or using lvm/btrfs rw
+</I>&gt;<i> snapshots (which should be better supported than unionfs).
+</I>
+For the record, I saw the need for cgroup this weekend.
+iurt got killed when log file becames too big or if free space is below 99%
+but the forked commands still run...
+See <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft?view=revision&amp;revision=3803">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft?view=revision&amp;revision=3803</A>
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+<PRE>On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 23:19, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> **
+</I>&gt;<i>  Revision 3800 Author tv Date 2012-03-26 00:19:25 +0200 (Mon, 26 Mar 2012) Log
+</I>&gt;<i> Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (plog_init) enable perl_checker to check callers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified Paths
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    - build_system/iurt/trunk/lib/Iurt/Util.pm&lt;#1364bf1562a5026a_build_systemiurttrunklibIurtUtilpm&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>  Modified: build_system/iurt/trunk/lib/Iurt/Util.pm
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- build_system/iurt/trunk/lib/Iurt/Util.pm	2012-03-25 20:20:47 UTC (rev 3799)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ build_system/iurt/trunk/lib/Iurt/Util.pm	2012-03-25 22:19:25 UTC (rev 3800)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -67,10 +67,9 @@
+</I>&gt;<i>  );
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>  sub plog_init {
+</I>&gt;<i> -        $plog_name = shift;
+</I>&gt;<i> -        $plog_file = shift;
+</I>&gt;<i> -        $plog_level = shift @_ || 9999;
+</I>&gt;<i> -        $plog_color = shift @_ || 0;
+</I>&gt;<i> +        ($plog_name, $plog_file, $o_plog_level, $o_plog_color) = @_;
+</I>&gt;<i> +        $plog_level ||= 9999;
+</I>&gt;<i> +        $plog_color ||= 0;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>  	$plog_level = 9999 if $ENV{PLOG_DEBUG};
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+    <B>Angelo Naselli</B> 
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+<PRE>luned&#236; 26 marzo 2012 alle 01:57, David W. Hodgins ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> The following packages have to be removed for others to be upgraded:
+</I>&gt;<i> libchamplain-gtk0.8_1-0.8.3-1.mga1.i586
+</I>&gt;<i>   (due to missing libclutter-gtk-0.10.so.0)
+</I>&gt;<i> libchamplain0.8_1-0.8.3-1.mga1.i586
+</I>&gt;<i>   (due to missing libclutter-glx-1.0.so.0)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Am I correct in thinking that adding an obsoletes of
+</I>&gt;<i> libchamplain-gtk0.8_1 to libchamplain-gtk0.12_0 would
+</I>&gt;<i> get urpmi to remove it without generating the above
+</I>&gt;<i> message?
+</I>hmm i'm not sure of that, but here it seems libclutter-glx &amp; co
+has been removed adn that cuases a remove of libchamplain0.8 &amp; co.
+Otherwise it would have left on the system.
+
+&gt;<i> If so, should I be opening bug reports for each of these
+</I>&gt;<i> cases, or should it be left as is, and simply tell the
+</I>&gt;<i> users to go ahead and answer yes to the prompt?
+</I>Obsoleting it should be against our library policy iirc, an old
+lib can stay on the system so that you can execute programs
+needing libfoo1 and other needing libfoo2 for instance.
+
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 25/03/12 18:06 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> When looking at <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4177">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4177</A> I noticed
+</I>&gt;<i> that libgphoto would need updated to support that camera model:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://gphoto.org/news/">http://gphoto.org/news/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The version above what we have is supports these new cameras:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>     Kodak C1530
+</I>&gt;<i>     Sony DSC-HX100V, DSC-A1000, SLT-A55
+</I>&gt;<i>     Nikon CoolPix P7000, P7100, P500, L120, L23, S5100, S3100,
+</I>&gt;<i>     Nikon D2Hs, D5100
+</I>&gt;<i>     Canon EOS 10D, 1D Mark IV, 1100D, 600D
+</I>&gt;<i>     Canon PowerShot A2000IS, A3100IS,
+</I>&gt;<i>     Fuji FinePix F80EXR, X10
+</I>&gt;<i>     Apple iPad, iPhone 4
+</I>&gt;<i>     Panasonic DMC-TZ18, TZ20
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This is a relatively edge package. Should we consider upgrading it and
+</I>&gt;<i> pushing it through freeze?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I've built the package locally and it builds without any issues or
+</I>&gt;<i> complications.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thoughts?
+</I>
+Any one have thoughts on this? I'd like to close the bug as wontfix or
+push the new version (which ever has the most consensus here!)
+
+
+Col
+
+-- 
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+    <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B> 
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+<PRE>On 03/22/2012 12:11 AM, Olav Vitters wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 04:57:47PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 07:21:44PM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 10:27:49AM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'll try and ensure that at least the SPEC files are already updated
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (via my that is triggered via ftp-release-list). However, I do expect
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> various submission failures, etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Updated list of packages which are hosted on 'ftp.gnome.org':
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Submitting now in the order specified by &quot;jhbuild list&quot; (to avoid any
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dependency problems). I'm using mgaqueue.sh. Never used that before, so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> let's see :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All modules have been submitted. A few failed, if someone could look at
+</I>&gt;<i> those? The easy failures I tried to fix. I'll also try and look at them
+</I>&gt;<i> tomorrow, but likely need help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+As we are in the way to gnome-3.4, should not task-gnome-{minimal}
+renumbered to 3.4.0 ?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also enhanced my mga-gnome script to:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1. Allow limiting the modules (to just GNOME Core+Apps)
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. Allow sorting the 'still to be built' according to predefined order
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> GNOME has &quot;jhbuild&quot;, this has a list subcommand which gives you the
+</I>&gt;<i> order in which packages need to be built. That output can be used by
+</I>&gt;<i> mga-gnome to limit it to GNOME Core&amp;Apps  + sort it according to
+</I>&gt;<i> jhbuild.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> meaning:
+</I>&gt;<i>    mga-gnome -l ~/.packages packages --sort ~/.packages --diff --version
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>   -l     limits it to just the upstream names from a file
+</I>&gt;<i>   --sort sorts it according to where in the file the upstream name
+</I>&gt;<i>          appears
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+-- 
+J.A. Magallon &lt;jamagallon()ono!com&gt;        \               Winter is coming...
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 25/03/12 18:06 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've built the package locally and it builds without any issues or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> complications.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thoughts?
+</I>&gt;<i> Any one have thoughts on this? I'd like to close the bug as wontfix or
+</I>&gt;<i> push the new version (which ever has the most consensus here!)
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+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>Looking at the changes and then at whatrequires libgphoto2 then i would 
+say this is a perfect candidate for backport but we still don't have 
+them. So probably wontfix or wait another month and a half when cauldron 
+is again open and we can push new versions :)
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> As we are in the way to gnome-3.4, should not task-gnome-{minimal}
+</I>&gt;<i> renumbered to 3.4.0 ?
+</I>
+Does it really matter? Anyway, I'll do so once all modules are in.
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+</I>&gt;<i> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 23:19, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Revision 3800 Author tv Date 2012-03-26 00:19:25 +0200 (Mon, 26 Mar 2012)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (plog_init) enable perl_checker to check callers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Modified Paths
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> build_system/iurt/trunk/lib/Iurt/Util.pm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Modified: build_system/iurt/trunk/lib/Iurt/Util.pm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --- build_system/iurt/trunk/lib/Iurt/Util.pm	2012-03-25 20:20:47 UTC (rev
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3799)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +++ build_system/iurt/trunk/lib/Iurt/Util.pm	2012-03-25 22:19:25 UTC (rev
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3800)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> @@ -67,10 +67,9 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  );
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  sub plog_init {
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -        $plog_name = shift;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -        $plog_file = shift;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -        $plog_level = shift @_ || 9999;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -        $plog_color = shift @_ || 0;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +        ($plog_name, $plog_file, $o_plog_level, $o_plog_color) = @_;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +        $plog_level ||= 9999;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +        $plog_color ||= 0;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  	$plog_level = 9999 if $ENV{PLOG_DEBUG};
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $plog_color / $plog_level should be renamed everywhere
+</I>
+Yes I know, it' in my queue with other commits.
+Will be dcommited tonight
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+    <B>Julien</B> 
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+Julien &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">julien.moragny at laposte.net</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> Le Sat, 24 Mar 2012 14:11:06 +0100,
+</I>&gt;<i> Julien &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">julien.moragny at laposte.net</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; please push liferea 1.8.3 which fix the UI freeze when updating or Mark
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as Read feeds with ext4. It's an old bug which plague liferea since
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ages.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; regards
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Julien
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> ping ?
+</I>
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> please push liferea 1.8.3 which fix the UI freeze when updating or Mark as
+</I>&gt;<i> Read feeds with ext4. It's an old bug which plague liferea since ages.
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le 21/03/2012 23:17, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 21 Mar 2012, Damien Lallement wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12 (replacing f-spot in 2) will soon be available.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For now, a new version of libexiv2 is needed for the last git snapshot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please push both packages as their were a lot a bug fixes since 3 weeks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12 should be available in 2 weeks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think it's too late for version 0.12, so we should not push git
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> snapshots now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's already a git snapshot for a while. Like other distro as shotwell 0.12 
+</I>&gt;<i> will be the new major release.
+</I>
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+i've taken a look at iceape and locally updated it to 2.7.2&#185; after talking with
+maintainer
+about it, with the intent to at least push this to Mageia 1, because since
+initial import
+it has not received any security updates (and there are countless security problem)
+I've also completed the rebrand to iceape as far as i saw fit (change URL to
+release
+notes, applied some more debian rebranding patches, removed updater files and
+updater menu item, and some more smaller fixes, current svn diff is attached)
+and did some cleaning of old and unused stuff.
+
+&#185;: I've only updated it to 2.7.2 as 2.8 does require newer NSPR, and that's a no-go
+for Mageia 1, which is my primary target.
+
+
+
+The biggest problem is: current maintainer does not have enough time to maintain
+it properly, and i'm not planning on doing it either, as i don't use it or know
+it well.
+
+There are at least 3 good options on how to proceed, apart from mga1 update:
+
+
+1.
+push latest version to cauldron, and hope somebody will maintain it afterwards
+(this is the worst IMHO, as we'll probably face the same situation with a de-facto
+umaintained package throughout Mageia 2 lifetime, which i want to avoid)
+
+
+2.
+drop iceape, package as seamonkey again and sync with Fedora
+(this one would at least make maintenance easier, only need to follow Fedora)
+
+
+3.
+drop iceape completely
+(actually this has the advantage that users can have official upstream binaries,
+and take advantage of automatic updates. Current maintainer agrees with this,
+as it's simply too fragile for him to maintain it easily.
+If somebody is against this, please step up as maintainer or help the current
+maintainer)
+
+
+I'm currently in contact with some seamonkey developers, to maybe clear up
+why/if the
+rebrand is needed, if it's needed like it's currently done, and why Fedora can
+simply
+ship seamonkey without the need for a rebrand, but the dialog may take some
+time, this
+would be only relevant for option 2.
+
+
+If nobody responds, i'll push my current work as security update for Mageia 1,
+and drop iceape from cauldron so that we won't have an outdated package and
+a potential security risk for Mageia 2.
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i've taken a look at iceape and locally updated it to 2.7.2&#185; after talking with
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainer
+</I>&gt;<i> about it, with the intent to at least push this to Mageia 1, because since
+</I>&gt;<i> initial import
+</I>&gt;<i> it has not received any security updates (and there are countless security problem)
+</I>&gt;<i> I've also completed the rebrand to iceape as far as i saw fit (change URL to
+</I>&gt;<i> release
+</I>&gt;<i> notes, applied some more debian rebranding patches, removed updater files and
+</I>&gt;<i> updater menu item, and some more smaller fixes, current svn diff is attached)
+</I>&gt;<i> and did some cleaning of old and unused stuff.
+</I>Sorry, fingers were too fast, not attached, as it's quite big, but here's a
+pastebin
+of it if somebody is really interested: <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/LKVPEpgG">http://pastebin.com/LKVPEpgG</A>
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#185;: I've only updated it to 2.7.2 as 2.8 does require newer NSPR, and that's a no-go
+</I>&gt;<i> for Mageia 1, which is my primary target.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The biggest problem is: current maintainer does not have enough time to maintain
+</I>&gt;<i> it properly, and i'm not planning on doing it either, as i don't use it or know
+</I>&gt;<i> it well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are at least 3 good options on how to proceed, apart from mga1 update:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.
+</I>&gt;<i> push latest version to cauldron, and hope somebody will maintain it afterwards
+</I>&gt;<i> (this is the worst IMHO, as we'll probably face the same situation with a de-facto
+</I>&gt;<i> umaintained package throughout Mageia 2 lifetime, which i want to avoid)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> drop iceape, package as seamonkey again and sync with Fedora
+</I>&gt;<i> (this one would at least make maintenance easier, only need to follow Fedora)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.
+</I>&gt;<i> drop iceape completely
+</I>&gt;<i> (actually this has the advantage that users can have official upstream binaries,
+</I>&gt;<i> and take advantage of automatic updates. Current maintainer agrees with this,
+</I>&gt;<i> as it's simply too fragile for him to maintain it easily.
+</I>&gt;<i> If somebody is against this, please step up as maintainer or help the current
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainer)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm currently in contact with some seamonkey developers, to maybe clear up
+</I>&gt;<i> why/if the
+</I>&gt;<i> rebrand is needed, if it's needed like it's currently done, and why Fedora can
+</I>&gt;<i> simply
+</I>&gt;<i> ship seamonkey without the need for a rebrand, but the dialog may take some
+</I>&gt;<i> time, this
+</I>&gt;<i> would be only relevant for option 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If nobody responds, i'll push my current work as security update for Mageia 1,
+</I>&gt;<i> and drop iceape from cauldron so that we won't have an outdated package and
+</I>&gt;<i> a potential security risk for Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kind regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+    <B>Julien</B> 
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+nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, 24 Mar 2012, Julien wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; please push liferea 1.8.3 which fix the UI freeze when updating or Mark
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as Read feeds with ext4. It's an old bug which plague liferea since
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ages.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Submitted.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
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+</I>&gt;<i> If nobody responds, i'll push my current work as security update for Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> 1, and drop iceape from cauldron so that we won't have an outdated package
+</I>&gt;<i> and a potential security risk for Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+The problem with dropping a package that was present in Mageia 1, in my 
+opinion, is that it's too late to do so. By shipping it we implicitly promised 
+to maintain it. Of course with that kind of logic we would never drop any 
+package, but I just wanted to point out that dropping a package is not that an 
+easy solution : when dropping something, there should be a note somewhere (in 
+the errata?), there should be a warning before upgrade (ideally &quot;the following 
+packages found on your system are no longer supported in Mageia 2 and will not 
+get security updates. Do you want to continue?&quot;).
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+I'm not volunteering to maintain it, so I won't strongly oppose dropping it, 
+but if possible I'd like we actively looked for a maintainer first rather and 
+drop it only as a last solution.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+Please let in urpmi &amp; rpmdrake:
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+Urpmi:
+- fix a debug message
+- fix downloading twice noarch packages on x86_64 with --download-all (mga#4867)
+- gurpmi: install perl-{Glib,Gtk2} as priority upgrades prior to
+restart (mga#5066)
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Please let in urpmi &amp; rpmdrake:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Urpmi:
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix a debug message
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix downloading twice noarch packages on x86_64 with --download-all (mga#4867)
+</I>&gt;<i> - gurpmi: install perl-{Glib,Gtk2} as priority upgrades prior to
+</I>&gt;<i> restart (mga#5066)
+</I>&gt;<i> - updated translations
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Rpmdrake:
+</I>&gt;<i>  - display backported packages with a different icon
+</I>&gt;<i>  - fix offering of updates from media not configured as update ones
+</I>&gt;<i>  - install perl-{Glib,Gtk2} as priority upgrades prior to restarting rpmdrake
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+    <B>Barry Jackson</B> 
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+New version - fixes bug 5109 which is a critical bug causing system failure.
+Thanks.
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Please push syntek.
+</I>&gt;<i> New version - fixes bug 5109 which is a critical bug causing system failure.
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks.
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+    <B>Barry Jackson</B> 
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+Could somebody push opera 11.62 into cauldron? It fixed six security
+problems as stated in [1], plus some other bugs.
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+Thanks.
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+[1]: <A HREF="http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/unix/1162/">http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/unix/1162/</A>
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Could somebody push opera 11.62 into cauldron? It fixed six security
+</I>&gt;<i> problems as stated in [1], plus some other bugs.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> [1]: <A HREF="http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/unix/1162/">http://www.opera.com/docs/changelogs/unix/1162/</A>
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+&gt;<i> Le 23/03/2012 01:31, David Walser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; New vulnerabilities CVE-2012-1162 (heap overflow) and CVE-2012-1163 (integer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; overflow) in libzip, which also affect PHP (probably the php-zip subpackage)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; were recently announced.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; libzip 0.10.1 has been released to fix these.  I have updated it in SVN and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; confirmed it builds, but I have not tested it yet.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; References:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5063">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5063</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/710">http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/710</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802564">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802564</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803028">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803028</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I><A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120323073855.ennael.valstar.7406/log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120323073855.ennael.valstar.7406/log</A>
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+I just tried building it on Cauldron again, and it builds fine.
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+    <B>Anne Nicolas</B> 
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+Cauldron, so it won't currently be updated when upgrading to Mageia 2.
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+&gt;<i> It was updated for a security update in Mageia 1 but was not updated in
+</I>&gt;<i> Cauldron, so it won't currently be updated when upgrading to Mageia 2.
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+</I>&gt;<i> The new version fixes usage with PHP 5.3.9 and newer.  I confirmed locally
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le lundi 26 mars 2012 19:46:56, Florian Hubold a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If nobody responds, i'll push my current work as security update for Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1, and drop iceape from cauldron so that we won't have an outdated package
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and a potential security risk for Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The problem with dropping a package that was present in Mageia 1, in my 
+</I>&gt;<i> opinion, is that it's too late to do so. By shipping it we implicitly promised 
+</I>&gt;<i> to maintain it. Of course with that kind of logic we would never drop any 
+</I>&gt;<i> package, but I just wanted to point out that dropping a package is not that an 
+</I>&gt;<i> easy solution : when dropping something, there should be a note somewhere (in 
+</I>&gt;<i> the errata?), there should be a warning before upgrade (ideally &quot;the following 
+</I>&gt;<i> packages found on your system are no longer supported in Mageia 2 and will not 
+</I>&gt;<i> get security updates. Do you want to continue?&quot;).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not volunteering to maintain it, so I won't strongly oppose dropping it, 
+</I>&gt;<i> but if possible I'd like we actively looked for a maintainer first rather and 
+</I>&gt;<i> drop it only as a last solution.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well, i've put this up multiple times before, the rebrand and the missing
+security updates, now that nothing has happened, i've at least worked
+on a solution for Mageia 1. But we should try to keep it sustainable
+in the long term.
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+So please not make that &quot;we should look for a maintainer&quot; as then IMHO
+nothing will happen by itself, but just propose to feed it to Cerberus.
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+Wasn't the goal some time ago to have no packages maintained by infamous
+nobody? Now we have packages, which are not really maintained. This is
+quite a step back.
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+Also please consider that nobody was interested about discussing a proposal
+for a policy about unresponsive maintainers, which is a really similar topic, IMHO.
+Quite sad overall, if you ask me, and much room for improvements.
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+So if noone volunteers and ensures to keep it updated for stable distros,
+i'm gonna drop it from cauldron next week, before it's too late.
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+PS: IMHO, we didn't promise to people &quot;we will maintain this collection of
+software eternally&quot; this is just not realistic and not possible, but we promised
+stable packages of a good quality. Neither is fulfilled in this case.
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ThinkFox</A> rfox]# lsmod | grep cdc
+cdc_ncm                18343  0 
+usbnet                 32360  1 cdc_ncm
+cdc_acm                28712  0 
+cdc_wdm                18241  0 
+usbcore               206950  10
+uvcvideo,btusb,cdc_ncm,usbnet,cdc_acm,cdc_wdm,xhci_hcd,usbhid,ehci_hcd
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+&gt;<i> This is part of KDE 4.8.1 and was missed in the update.  It builds, installs,
+</I>&gt;<i> and works fine.  printer-applet-4.8.1-1.mga2
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+To be clear, this is part of mainline KDE (which we're supposed to be updating to 4.8.1 for Mageia 
+2).  It is not some third-party app.  It lives here with the rest of KDE:
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+&#22312; 2012&#24180;3&#26376;28&#26085;&#26143;&#26399;&#19977;&#65292;David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; &#20889;&#36947;&#65306;
+&gt;<i> David Walser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is part of KDE 4.8.1 and was missed in the update.  It builds,
+</I>installs,
+&gt;&gt;<i> and works fine.  printer-applet-4.8.1-1.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To be clear, this is part of mainline KDE (which we're supposed to be
+</I>updating to 4.8.1 for Mageia
+&gt;<i> 2).  It is not some third-party app.  It lives here with the rest of KDE:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.8.1/src/">ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.8.1/src/</A>
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12 (replacing f-spot in 2) will soon be available.
+</I>&gt;<i> For now, a new version of libexiv2 is needed for the last git snapshot.
+</I>&gt;<i> Please push both packages as their were a lot a bug fixes since 3 weeks.
+</I>&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12 should be available in 2 weeks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> libgexiv2 first please... ;-)
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+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
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+shotwell 0.12.0 final is out.
+Please submit it, I tested it on my laptop.
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+&gt;<i> Maybe we should wait massive updates for 4.8.2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#22312; 2012&#24180;3&#26376;28&#26085;&#26143;&#26399;&#19977;&#65292;David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; &#20889;&#36947;&#65306;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> David Walser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is part of KDE 4.8.1 and was missed in the update. &#160;It builds,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installs,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and works fine. &#160;printer-applet-4.8.1-1.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To be clear, this is part of mainline KDE (which we're supposed to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> updating to 4.8.1 for Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2). &#160;It is not some third-party app. &#160;It lives here with the rest of KDE:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.8.1/src/">ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.8.1/src/</A>
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+when is it planned ?
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+which is 5 days earlier than our release freeze at Apri 7.
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+[1]: <A HREF="http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.8_Release_Schedule">http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules/KDE4/4.8_Release_Schedule</A>
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+2012/3/28 D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 2:12 AM, Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe we should wait massive updates for 4.8.2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#22312; 2012&#24180;3&#26376;28&#26085;&#26143;&#26399;&#19977;&#65292;David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; &#20889;&#36947;&#65306;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> David Walser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is part of KDE 4.8.1 and was missed in the update. &#160;It builds,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installs,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and works fine. &#160;printer-applet-4.8.1-1.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To be clear, this is part of mainline KDE (which we're supposed to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> updating to 4.8.1 for Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2). &#160;It is not some third-party app. &#160;It lives here with the rest of KDE:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.8.1/src/">ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/4.8.1/src/</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> when is it planned ?
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+The ChangeLog is here:
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+<A HREF="http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ChangeLog">http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ChangeLog</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+    <I>Wed Mar 28 10:15:07 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Robert Fox at 27/03/12 20:11 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Since recent Cauldron updates, I can't get my 3G card (Ericsson F5521gw)
+</I>&gt;<i> to work - looks like the modules are loading:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ThinkFox</A> rfox]# lsmod | grep cdc
+</I>&gt;<i> cdc_ncm                18343  0 
+</I>&gt;<i> usbnet                 32360  1 cdc_ncm
+</I>&gt;<i> cdc_acm                28712  0 
+</I>&gt;<i> cdc_wdm                18241  0 
+</I>&gt;<i> usbcore               206950  10
+</I>&gt;<i> uvcvideo,btusb,cdc_ncm,usbnet,cdc_acm,cdc_wdm,xhci_hcd,usbhid,ehci_hcd
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> but when I start drakconnect, I get &quot;no device for this connection type&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> On the same notebook (Thinkpad x220) it works fine under Ubuntu 12.04
+</I>&gt;<i> B1)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Any hints would be welcome.
+</I>
+Try running as root:
+
+mount -n -t usbfs -o devmode=0664,devgid=43 /proc/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb
+
+
+Then run drakconnect.
+
+aka: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4500">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4500</A>
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 28 March 2012 10:32, ovitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> ovitters &lt;ovitters&gt; 3.4.0.1-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 227226
+</I>&gt;<i> - update file list
+</I>&gt;<i> - remove patches which don't apply
+</I>
+hum, those patches came from git.
+Either they were merged and you should really remove them from spec
+(not just comment out them) or they should be rediffed.
+
+What's more, you also disable systemd support (--without-systemd)
+without telling such in the changelog.
+Why?
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+&gt;<i> - new version 3.4.0.1
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le 21/03/2012 18:07, Damien Lallement a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12 (replacing f-spot in 2) will soon be available.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For now, a new version of libexiv2 is needed for the last git snapshot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please push both packages as their were a lot a bug fixes since 3 weeks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12 should be available in 2 weeks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> libgexiv2 first please... ;-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12.0 final is out.
+</I>&gt;<i> Please submit it, I tested it on my laptop.
+</I>
+Submission errors, aborting:
+- shotwell-0.12.0-1.src:
+ - invalid value 1 for tag release
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 28 March 2012 10:32, ovitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ovitters &lt;ovitters&gt; 3.4.0.1-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; + Revision: 227226
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - update file list
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - remove patches which don't apply
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> hum, those patches came from git.
+</I>&gt;<i> Either they were merged and you should really remove them from spec
+</I>&gt;<i> (not just comment out them) or they should be rediffed.
+</I>
+I checked with Fedora spec and their patches have all been applied in
+3.4.0.1 (plymouth patch is upstream now). I still want colin to check,
+so left them in as comments.
+
+&gt;<i> What's more, you also disable systemd support (--without-systemd)
+</I>&gt;<i> without telling such in the changelog.
+</I>
+Forgot to add a comment.
+
+--without-systemd: colin said it causes issues when booting with
+sysvinit.
+
+For Mageia 2 systemd is optional, not all modules fall back to
+ConsoleKit automatically. So in case a module has issues, better to
+disable it and rely on ConsoleKit even when using systemd.
+
+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+    <I>Wed Mar 28 11:06:37 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 28/03/12 09:54 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 10:44:57AM +0200, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 28 March 2012 10:32, ovitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ovitters &lt;ovitters&gt; 3.4.0.1-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 227226
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - update file list
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - remove patches which don't apply
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hum, those patches came from git.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Either they were merged and you should really remove them from spec
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (not just comment out them) or they should be rediffed.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I checked with Fedora spec and their patches have all been applied in
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.4.0.1 (plymouth patch is upstream now). I still want colin to check,
+</I>&gt;<i> so left them in as comments.
+</I>
+Cool, I'll have a peak as soon as I can.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> What's more, you also disable systemd support (--without-systemd)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> without telling such in the changelog.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Forgot to add a comment.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> --without-systemd: colin said it causes issues when booting with
+</I>&gt;<i> sysvinit.
+</I>
+It's much more involved than that. It causes problems when booting with
+our current X version if it's enabled regardless of init (it might
+actually have worked fine when booting in sysvinit mode - if it was
+clever about things which it should be I guess!)
+
+Enabling systemd support here enables proper seat enumeration in X, but
+our X11 server is too old to support the --seat argument and it's too
+late in the day to even think about changing it! Basically it prevents X
+starting which certainly isn't fun! When cauldron reopens after mga2 we
+can upgrade X and enable full support (and start ripping the old things
+out which will be lovely :D)
+
+&gt;<i> For Mageia 2 systemd is optional, not all modules fall back to
+</I>&gt;<i> ConsoleKit automatically. So in case a module has issues, better to
+</I>&gt;<i> disable it and rely on ConsoleKit even when using systemd.
+</I>
+This isn't really this issue in this case.
+
+But over all, I've been using gdm like this for a good few days now and
+it seems fine (tho' I think lock screen background might be messed up
+now, but that should be fixable)
+
+Col
+
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Please push pidgin 2.10.3 (on
+</I>&gt;<i> svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/pidgin/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/pidgin/current</A> )
+</I>&gt;<i> which fixes some bugs including a broken MSN network compatibility (due to a
+</I>&gt;<i> problematic MSN protocol upgrade):
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+    <B>Samuel Verschelde</B> 
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 22 mars 2012 21:04:46, Samuel Verschelde a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Please push if possible autojump. I thought I had committed and submitted
+</I>&gt;<i> it already weeks ago but it looks like I forgot (only uploaded the
+</I>&gt;<i> tar.gz).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Changes from versions 17 to 19 include mainly fixes. Unfortunately there
+</I>&gt;<i> is a new feature, so it's not a bugfix-only release, but it doesn't
+</I>&gt;<i> change user habits.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If the push is refused, then I'll try to backport some fixes, but given
+</I>&gt;<i> the non-criticity of the package and the unlikeliness of big regressions
+</I>&gt;<i> (I've been using it locally without any problem for some weeks), I would
+</I>&gt;<i> not be against having more time for more important matters :)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+I guess it's no? :)
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+    <B>Damien Lallement</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 28/03/2012 08:59, Shlomi Fish a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Please push pidgin 2.10.3 (on
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+</I>&gt;<i> which fixes some bugs including a broken MSN network compatibility (due to a
+</I>&gt;<i> problematic MSN protocol upgrade):
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The ChangeLog is here:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ChangeLog">http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/ChangeLog</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 	Shlomi fish
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+As the maintainer of pidgin, I didn't pushed it because of:
+<A HREF="http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/14930">http://developer.pidgin.im/ticket/14930</A>
+Bug not fixed. Perhaps 2.10.4 in a few days... So I was waiting for...
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+    <B>Damien Lallement</B> 
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+<PRE>Hi,
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+Can you please push pidgin-sipe.
+The new version (1.13.0) is a bug fix version:
+- add TLS-DSK authentification scheme (mandatory for Office365)
+- add non-public Lync support
+- fix build vith latest glib2
+- refactored crypto code
+- remove kopete backend (telepathy now)
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+<A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/sipe/files/sipe/pidgin-sipe-1.13.0/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/sipe/files/sipe/pidgin-sipe-1.13.0/</A>
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+Thanks,
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+    <B>Damien Lallement</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 28/03/2012 10:49, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Damien Lallement wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 21/03/2012 18:07, Damien Lallement a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12 (replacing f-spot in 2) will soon be available.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For now, a new version of libexiv2 is needed for the last git snapshot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please push both packages as their were a lot a bug fixes since 3 weeks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12 should be available in 2 weeks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libgexiv2 first please... ;-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12.0 final is out.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please submit it, I tested it on my laptop.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Submission errors, aborting:
+</I>&gt;<i> - shotwell-0.12.0-1.src:
+</I>&gt;<i>   - invalid value 1 for tag release
+</I>
+Oops, sorry, fixed.
+You can submit.
+-- 
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+As planned until release is out, tonight's meeting focused on Mageia 2:
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and David Walser at 27/03/12 19:47 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> It was updated for a security update in Mageia 1 but was not updated in
+</I>&gt;<i> Cauldron, so it won't currently be updated when upgrading to Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The new version fixes usage with PHP 5.3.9 and newer.  I confirmed locally
+</I>&gt;<i> that it builds, installs, and works properly.
+</I>
+It also contains ABI breakage:
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+PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library
+'/usr/lib64/php/extensions/mbstring.so' -
+/usr/lib64/php/extensions/mbstring.so: undefined symbol:
+mbfl_identify_encoding_no in Unknown on line 0
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+
+I will try rebuilding PHP, but really this is a broken update!
+
+Col
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 19:47, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> It was updated for a security update in Mageia 1 but was not updated in
+</I>&gt;<i> Cauldron, so it won't currently be updated when upgrading to Mageia 2.
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+</I>&gt;<i> that it builds, installs, and works properly.
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>It seems to break abi so php-mbstring needs at least to be rebuilt
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+<PRE>--- On Wed, 3/28/12, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> From: Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</I>&gt;<i> To: &quot;Mageia development mailing-list&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Cc: &quot;David Walser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Date: Wednesday, March 28, 2012, 8:46 AM
+</I>&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and David Walser at
+</I>&gt;<i> 27/03/12 19:47 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It was updated for a security update in Mageia 1 but
+</I>&gt;<i> was not updated in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Cauldron, so it won't currently be updated when
+</I>&gt;<i> upgrading to Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The new version fixes usage with PHP 5.3.9 and
+</I>&gt;<i> newer.&#160; I confirmed locally
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that it builds, installs, and works properly.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It also contains ABI breakage:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> PHP Warning:&#160; PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic
+</I>&gt;<i> library
+</I>&gt;<i> '/usr/lib64/php/extensions/mbstring.so' -
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/lib64/php/extensions/mbstring.so: undefined symbol:
+</I>&gt;<i> mbfl_identify_encoding_no in Unknown on line 0
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I will try rebuilding PHP, but really this is a broken
+</I>&gt;<i> update!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+You should have seen the state the SVN for it was in, it was a real mess.
+
+Rebuilding PHP should be sufficient.
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+<PRE>Le 28 mars 2012 02:35, &quot;Funda Wang&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;<i> According to [1], it is tagged at March 29, and released in April 3,
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+Please note that Qt 4.8.1 is also out with several bugs fixes ( especially
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 28/03/12 13:46 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and David Walser at 27/03/12 19:47 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It was updated for a security update in Mageia 1 but was not updated in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cauldron, so it won't currently be updated when upgrading to Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The new version fixes usage with PHP 5.3.9 and newer.  I confirmed locally
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that it builds, installs, and works properly.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It also contains ABI breakage:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library
+</I>&gt;<i> '/usr/lib64/php/extensions/mbstring.so' -
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/lib64/php/extensions/mbstring.so: undefined symbol:
+</I>&gt;<i> mbfl_identify_encoding_no in Unknown on line 0
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I will try rebuilding PHP, but really this is a broken update!
+</I>
+Rebuilding PHP did not help.
+
+We need to revert this ASAP or find a way to fix PHP to be compatible
+and find out which other packages may be broken as a result.
+
+Col
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+-- 
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+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 28/03/12 15:38 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 28/03/12 13:46 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and David Walser at 27/03/12 19:47 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It was updated for a security update in Mageia 1 but was not updated in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cauldron, so it won't currently be updated when upgrading to Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The new version fixes usage with PHP 5.3.9 and newer.  I confirmed locally
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that it builds, installs, and works properly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It also contains ABI breakage:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> '/usr/lib64/php/extensions/mbstring.so' -
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/lib64/php/extensions/mbstring.so: undefined symbol:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mbfl_identify_encoding_no in Unknown on line 0
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I will try rebuilding PHP, but really this is a broken update!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Rebuilding PHP did not help.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> We need to revert this ASAP or find a way to fix PHP to be compatible
+</I>&gt;<i> and find out which other packages may be broken as a result.
+</I>
+FWIW, the API looks quite different:
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> libmbfl-1.0.1]$ ccgrep mbfl_identify_encoding .
+./mbfl/mbfilter.c:mbfl_identify_encoding(mbfl_string *string, enum
+mbfl_no_encoding *elist, int elistsz, int strict)
+./mbfl/mbfilter.c:mbfl_identify_encoding_name(mbfl_string *string, enum
+mbfl_no_encoding *elist, int elistsz, int strict)
+./mbfl/mbfilter.c:	encoding = mbfl_identify_encoding(string, elist,
+elistsz, strict);
+./mbfl/mbfilter.c:mbfl_identify_encoding_no(mbfl_string *string, enum
+mbfl_no_encoding *elist, int elistsz, int strict)
+./mbfl/mbfilter.c:	encoding = mbfl_identify_encoding(string, elist,
+elistsz, strict);
+./mbfl/mbfilter.h:mbfl_identify_encoding(mbfl_string *string, enum
+mbfl_no_encoding *elist, int elistsz, int strict);
+./mbfl/mbfilter.h:mbfl_identify_encoding_name(mbfl_string *string, enum
+mbfl_no_encoding *elist, int elistsz, int strict);
+./mbfl/mbfilter.h:mbfl_identify_encoding_no(mbfl_string *string, enum
+mbfl_no_encoding *elist, int elistsz, int strict);
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> libmbfl-1.0.1]$ cd ../libmb
+libmbfl-1.0.1/ libmbfl-1.2.0/
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> libmbfl-1.0.1]$ cd ../libmbfl-1.2.0/
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> libmbfl-1.2.0]$ ccgrep mbfl_identify_encoding .
+./mbfl/mbfilter.c:mbfl_identify_encoding(mbfl_string *string, enum
+mbfl_no_encoding *elist, int elistsz, int strict)
+./mbfl/mbfilter.c:mbfl_identify_encoding2(mbfl_string *string, const
+mbfl_encoding **elist, int elistsz, int strict)
+./mbfl/mbfilter.h:mbfl_identify_encoding(mbfl_string *string, enum
+mbfl_no_encoding *elist, int elistsz, int strict);
+./mbfl/mbfilter.h:mbfl_identify_encoding2(mbfl_string *string, const
+mbfl_encoding **elist, int elistsz, int strict);
+
+That's at least two functions no longer part of the public API...
+
+
+Col
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and David Walser at 28/03/12 14:17 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> --- On Wed, 3/28/12, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> From: Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To: &quot;Mageia development mailing-list&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-dev at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cc: &quot;David Walser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Date: Wednesday, March 28, 2012, 8:46 AM
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and David Walser at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 27/03/12 19:47 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It was updated for a security update in Mageia 1 but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> was not updated in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Cauldron, so it won't currently be updated when
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> upgrading to Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The new version fixes usage with PHP 5.3.9 and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> newer.  I confirmed locally
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that it builds, installs, and works properly.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It also contains ABI breakage:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> library
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> '/usr/lib64/php/extensions/mbstring.so' -
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/lib64/php/extensions/mbstring.so: undefined symbol:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mbfl_identify_encoding_no in Unknown on line 0
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I will try rebuilding PHP, but really this is a broken
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> update!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> You should have seen the state the SVN for it was in, it was a real mess.
+</I>
+Oh I can believe that :D
+
+&gt;<i> Rebuilding PHP should be sufficient.
+</I>
+It didn't help. Perhaps it's PHP us using internal headers but system
+lib? Therefore it's compiling against a different version than it's
+being used against?
+
+Dunno, not poked hard. I downgraded to the old lib and rebuilt locally
+and it worked again.
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+Either way, removing functions without bumping .so major is a pretty big
+ABI break....
+
+Col
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Rebuilding PHP did not help.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We need to revert this ASAP or find a way to fix PHP to be compatible
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and find out which other packages may be broken as a result.
+</I>
+It's quite a mess upstream too.  Apparently there was a 1.0.1 version
+(with a security bug), and then it was fixed in a 1.1.0 version, but the
+tarball was still called 1.0.1, replacing the old copy upstream.  We can't
+just revert this, because that's not right either, but what we can do is
+sync it with the version from Mageia 1 updates.  This will require sysadmin
+assistance because of downgrading the version.  I'll fix this in SVN when I
+get back to my apartment, since mgarepo sync interactions with the binrepo
+don't work through a proxy, so I can't quite do it from work.
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+Sorry for not noticing the breakage, I forgot to install php-mbstring when
+testing this.  We'll get it fixed though :o)
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and David Walser at 28/03/12 16:31 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Rebuilding PHP did not help.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We need to revert this ASAP or find a way to fix PHP to be compatible
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and find out which other packages may be broken as a result.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It's quite a mess upstream too.  Apparently there was a 1.0.1 version
+</I>&gt;<i> (with a security bug), and then it was fixed in a 1.1.0 version, but the
+</I>&gt;<i> tarball was still called 1.0.1, replacing the old copy upstream.  We can't
+</I>&gt;<i> just revert this, because that's not right either, but what we can do is
+</I>&gt;<i> sync it with the version from Mageia 1 updates.  This will require sysadmin
+</I>&gt;<i> assistance because of downgrading the version.  I'll fix this in SVN when I
+</I>&gt;<i> get back to my apartment, since mgarepo sync interactions with the binrepo
+</I>&gt;<i> don't work through a proxy, so I can't quite do it from work.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry for not noticing the breakage, I forgot to install php-mbstring when
+</I>&gt;<i> testing this.  We'll get it fixed though :o)
+</I>
+Don't worry, it's hard to notice everything :)
+
+I think the mga1 version is likely a good idea. Looks like upstream are
+in a bit of a borked state :s
+
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Anne nicolas at 28/03/12 13:02 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> As planned until release is out, tonight's meeting focused on Mageia 2:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> - release_blocker bugs management
+</I>&gt;<i> - security updates
+</I>&gt;<i> - broken dependancies
+</I>&gt;<i> - QA tests on upgrade
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+I'm trying to be more available for meetings (I do usually suck), but
+Wednesday are usually problematic. Please ping me if you need me to do
+specific things. I'm still working away as time permists on the blockers
+list. I'm relatively happy overall, but still a couple good ones to fix!
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+Colin Guthrie
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+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark">luigiwalser at yahoo.com
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+<PRE>nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1.6.6 is a bugfix release.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Submitted.
+</I>
+Should we update this for Mageia 1?  Version 1.4.12 fixes the same
+vulnerabilities.  They don't look too serious to me, but who am I to judge?
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+<PRE>We know that urpme --auto-orphans doesn't remove all orphaned libraries,
+and there are reasons for that.  Manually you generally should be able to
+get rid of them, and generally urpmi_rpm-find-leaves will show them.  There
+are three I noticed in my upgrade tests that aren't being shown, so they only
+way I found them was diffing the installed package list against the list of
+RPMS from my mirror.  They are:
+libxulrunner9.0.1
+libhunspell1.2_0
+libnotify1
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+Also not being shown is libvpx0, which is still on the mirror, but has been
+replaced by libvpx1, so the script should be removing libvpx0 from the tree
+pretty soon.
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+I'm guessing these don't show in up in find-leaves because of some inter-
+dependencies between them.  Is there anything we can do to fix this?  Of
+course it's also a bit unfortunate to be leaving behind these old libraries
+that contain security vulnerabilities...
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and David Walser at 28/03/12 17:07 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> We know that urpme --auto-orphans doesn't remove all orphaned libraries,
+</I>&gt;<i> and there are reasons for that.  Manually you generally should be able to
+</I>&gt;<i> get rid of them, and generally urpmi_rpm-find-leaves will show them.  There
+</I>&gt;<i> are three I noticed in my upgrade tests that aren't being shown, so they only
+</I>&gt;<i> way I found them was diffing the installed package list against the list of
+</I>&gt;<i> RPMS from my mirror.  They are:
+</I>&gt;<i> libxulrunner9.0.1
+</I>&gt;<i> libhunspell1.2_0
+</I>&gt;<i> libnotify1
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Also not being shown is libvpx0, which is still on the mirror, but has been
+</I>&gt;<i> replaced by libvpx1, so the script should be removing libvpx0 from the tree
+</I>&gt;<i> pretty soon.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm guessing these don't show in up in find-leaves because of some inter-
+</I>&gt;<i> dependencies between them.  Is there anything we can do to fix this?  Of
+</I>&gt;<i> course it's also a bit unfortunate to be leaving behind these old libraries
+</I>&gt;<i> that contain security vulnerabilities...
+</I>
+urpmq --not-available
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+This command shows all packages currently installed that are no longer
+available via the media.
+
+I pretty much exclusively use this tool to tidy up my systems as the
+auto-orphan state always seems to get out of sync for me.
+
+Col
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+<PRE>New vulnerabilities CVE-2012-1162 (heap overflow) and CVE-2012-1163 (integer
+overflow) in libzip were recently announced.
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+libzip 0.10.1 has been released to fix these.  I have updated it in SVN and
+confirmed it builds on current Cauldron.  I mentioned this earlier and Anne
+submitted it to the build system, and it built, but one of the make check
+tests failed.  I can't reproduce this, even on a stripped-down VM with no
+extra -devel packages installed, so I'm thinking it was a transient issue on
+the build system (as I've seen this happen before).  Can we please try
+submitting it again?
+
+References:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5063">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5063</A>
+<A HREF="http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/710">http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/710</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802564">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802564</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803028">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803028</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+number of fixes since the last one, mostly minor stuff.
+
+Cheers
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> 1.6.6 is a bugfix release.
+</I>Thanks for pushing, didn't have much time for packaging
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+    <I>Wed Mar 28 18:40:01 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>I have a server VM that does not have KDE installed, but it has KDM, ark, and
+konsole installed.  IceWM is the default window manager.
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+I've tested upgrading it to Mageia 2, and all kinds of extra KDE stuff gets
+pulled in in the upgrade, including task-kde4-minimal, leaving a broken KDE as
+the default window manager.
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+I'm not 100% sure, but I think at least some of the reason all kinds of extra
+stuff gets pulled in is because Default-kde4-config and
+mageia-kde4-config-common both have added dependencies on plasma applets
+(plasma-applet-icontasks and plasma-applet-battery, respectively), which
+certainly seems wrong.  I don't know if this accounts for all of the extra stuff
+getting pulled in.  If I knew for sure, I'd file a bug.
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+Also, as I alluded to, KDE installed with task-kde4-minimal is a bit broken. 
+Some issues include no showdesktop widget being installed, and as soon as you
+log in, an error message:
+Warning: Cannot open ConsoleKit session: Unable to open session: Failed to
+connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus
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+Not sure if this is related, but when you don't have a sound device, Kmix in the
+system tray has a missing icon.
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+Finally, even on a workstation installation with full KDE, there is some error
+message that briefly displays at the top of the screen after you log in, but not
+long enough to read it.  It looks like something about power management.
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+    <I>Wed Mar 28 18:41:28 CEST 2012</I>
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Robert Fox at 27/03/12 20:11 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Since recent Cauldron updates, I can't get my 3G card (Ericsson F5521gw)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to work - looks like the modules are loading:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at ThinkFox</A> rfox]# lsmod | grep cdc
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; cdc_ncm                18343  0 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; usbnet                 32360  1 cdc_ncm
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; cdc_acm                28712  0 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; cdc_wdm                18241  0 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; usbcore               206950  10
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; uvcvideo,btusb,cdc_ncm,usbnet,cdc_acm,cdc_wdm,xhci_hcd,usbhid,ehci_hcd
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but when I start drakconnect, I get &quot;no device for this connection type&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On the same notebook (Thinkpad x220) it works fine under Ubuntu 12.04
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; B1)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Any hints would be welcome.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Try running as root:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> mount -n -t usbfs -o devmode=0664,devgid=43 /proc/bus/usb /proc/bus/usb
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Then run drakconnect.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> aka: <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4500">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4500</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
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+Thanks Col - that fixed it!  Whew, I needed that (had to use Ubuntu as
+fallback whilst onsite at a customer!) - Cheers!
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> New vulnerabilities CVE-2012-1162 (heap overflow) and CVE-2012-1163 (integer
+</I>&gt;<i> overflow) in libzip were recently announced.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> libzip 0.10.1 has been released to fix these.  I have updated it in SVN and
+</I>&gt;<i> confirmed it builds on current Cauldron.  I mentioned this earlier and Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> submitted it to the build system, and it built, but one of the make check
+</I>&gt;<i> tests failed.  I can't reproduce this, even on a stripped-down VM with no
+</I>&gt;<i> extra -devel packages installed, so I'm thinking it was a transient issue on
+</I>&gt;<i> the build system (as I've seen this happen before).  Can we please try
+</I>&gt;<i> submitting it again?
+</I>
+It still fails :
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120328164050.boklm.valstar.7233/log/libzip-0.10.1-1.mga2/build.0.20120328164051.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120328164050.boklm.valstar.7233/log/libzip-0.10.1-1.mga2/build.0.20120328164051.log</A>
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Just the latest on the cycle towards 2.0. Likely the last RC. Not a huge
+</I>&gt;<i> number of fixes since the last one, mostly minor stuff.
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+<PRE>David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+&gt;<i> New vulnerabilities CVE-2012-1162 (heap overflow) and CVE-2012-1163 (integer
+</I>&gt;<i> overflow) in libzip were recently announced.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> libzip 0.10.1 has been released to fix these.  I have updated it in SVN and
+</I>&gt;<i> confirmed it builds on current Cauldron.  I mentioned this earlier and Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> submitted it to the build system, and it built, but one of the make check
+</I>&gt;<i> tests failed.  I can't reproduce this, even on a stripped-down VM with no
+</I>&gt;<i> extra -devel packages installed, so I'm thinking it was a transient issue on
+</I>&gt;<i> the build system (as I've seen this happen before).  Can we please try
+</I>&gt;<i> submitting it again?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> References:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5063">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5063</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/710">http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2012/q1/710</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802564">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=802564</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803028">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=803028</A>
+</I>
+boklm tried submitting this again (thanks for trying), and it failed on
+&quot;fread.test&quot; again.  As I said, I can't reproduce the problem, and I welcome any
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+<PRE>foomatic-filters has a minor change to fix a bug reported by an Ubuntu user
+that was discovered when using a slightly buggy proprietary PPD file for a
+Canon printer.
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+I've confirmed that it still works, printing through it to a Xerox printer at
+work (which system-config-printer did a much better job setting up in Cauldron
+than it does in Mageia 1, nice!).
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+One is a fix for an issue where mpg123 goes into an infinite loop when run from
+a current working directory that has been deleted.  The other is a fix to very
+verbose (-vv) output.  I've confirmed that it builds, installs, and functions.
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+    <B>Anne Nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> foomatic-filters has a minor change to fix a bug reported by an Ubuntu user
+</I>&gt;<i> that was discovered when using a slightly buggy proprietary PPD file for a
+</I>&gt;<i> Canon printer.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I've confirmed that it still works, printing through it to a Xerox printer at
+</I>&gt;<i> work (which system-config-printer did a much better job setting up in Cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> than it does in Mageia 1, nice!).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
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+</I>&gt;<i> I have a server VM that does not have KDE installed, but it has KDM, ark,
+</I>and
+&gt;<i> konsole installed.  IceWM is
+</I>the default window manager.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've tested upgrading it to Mageia 2, and all kinds of extra KDE stuff
+</I>gets
+&gt;<i> pulled in in the upgrade, including task-kde4-minimal, leaving a broken
+</I>KDE as
+&gt;<i> the default window manager.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not 100% sure, but I think at least some of the reason all kinds of
+</I>extra
+&gt;<i> stuff gets pulled in is because Default-kde4-config and
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-kde4-config-common both have added dependencies on plasma applets
+</I>&gt;<i> (plasma-applet-icontasks and plasma-applet-battery, respectively), which
+</I>&gt;<i> certainly seems wrong.
+</I>Nop, default config use iconstasks so we'll end up with a broken panel if
+it was not pulled.
+
+I don't know if this accounts for all of the extra stuff
+&gt;<i> getting pulled in.  If I knew for sure, I'd file a bug.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, as I alluded to, KDE installed with task-kde4-minimal is a bit
+</I>broken.
+&gt;<i> Some issues include no showdesktop widget being installed, and as soon as
+</I>you
+&gt;<i> log in, an error message:
+</I>&gt;<i> Warning: Cannot open ConsoleKit session: Unable to open session: Failed to
+</I>&gt;<i> connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not sure if this is related, but when you don't have a sound device, Kmix
+</I>in the
+&gt;<i> system tray has a missing icon.
+</I>
+Under kde session ? Could you add a screenshot ?
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+&gt;<i> Finally, even on a workstation installation with full KDE, there is some
+</I>error
+&gt;<i> message that briefly displays at the top of the screen after you log in,
+</I>but not
+&gt;<i> long enough to read it.  It looks like something about power management.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>You should add somewhere thoses logs (bugzilla).
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+&gt;<i> This contains only two changes from our last version, both bugfixes.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> One is a fix for an issue where mpg123 goes into an infinite loop when run from
+</I>&gt;<i> a current working directory that has been deleted.  The other is a fix to very
+</I>&gt;<i> verbose (-vv) output.  I've confirmed that it builds, installs, and functions.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I think this will be my last freeze push request.  :D
+</I>&gt;<i> 
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+    <B>Remco Rijnders</B> 
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+Hi, can someone please push maradns? This is a bugfix only upgrade from 
+1.4.10 to 1.4.12 and contains a fix for 
+<A HREF="http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2012-1570">http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2012-1570</A> which allows a 
+malicious outsider to keep cached records from expiring from the resolver.
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+Thanks a heap in advance,
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+    <B>Anne Nicolas</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 28/03/2012 20:23, Remco Rijnders a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hi, can someone please push maradns? This is a bugfix only upgrade from
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.4.10 to 1.4.12 and contains a fix for
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2012-1570">http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2012-1570</A> which allows
+</I>&gt;<i> a malicious outsider to keep cached records from expiring from the
+</I>&gt;<i> resolver.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks a heap in advance,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Remmy
+</I>
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le 28 mars 2012 12:40, &quot;David Walser&quot;
+</I>&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit&#160;:
+&gt;<i> &gt; I'm not 100% sure, but I think at least some of the reason all kinds of extra
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; stuff gets pulled in is because Default-kde4-config and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mageia-kde4-config-common both have added dependencies on plasma applets
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (plasma-applet-icontasks and plasma-applet-battery, respectively), which
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; certainly seems wrong. &#160;
+</I>&gt;<i> Nop, default config use iconstasks so we'll end up with a broken panel if
+</I>&gt;<i> it was not pulled.
+</I>
+Then this is definitely wrong.  Those config packages are required even when
+you don't have KDE itself installed, so there's no panel to be broken.  Those
+requires should be elsewhere.
+
+&gt;<i> I don't know if this accounts for all of the extra stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; getting pulled in. &#160;If I knew for sure, I'd file a bug.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Also, as I alluded to, KDE installed with task-kde4-minimal is a bit broken.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Some issues include no showdesktop widget being installed, and as soon
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as you log in, an error message:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Warning: Cannot open ConsoleKit session: Unable to open session: Failed to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Not sure if this is related, but when you don't have a sound device,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Kmix in the system tray has a missing icon.
+</I>&gt;<i> Under kde session ? Could you add a screenshot ?
+</I>
+Yes, in a KDE session.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Finally, even on a workstation installation with full KDE, there is some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; error message that briefly displays at the top of the screen after you
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; log in, but not long enough to read it. &#160;It looks like something about
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; power management.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> You should add somewhere thoses logs (bugzilla).
+</I>
+That's the thing, the message doesn't stay long enough to read it, and I
+don't see anything about it in .xsession-errors.
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+&gt;<i> boklm tried submitting this again (thanks for trying), and it failed on
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+&gt;<i> I have a server VM that does not have KDE installed, but it has KDM, ark, and
+</I>&gt;<i> konsole installed. &#160;IceWM is the default window manager.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've tested upgrading it to Mageia 2, and all kinds of extra KDE stuff gets
+</I>&gt;<i> pulled in in the upgrade, including task-kde4-minimal, leaving a broken KDE as
+</I>&gt;<i> the default window manager.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not 100% sure, but I think at least some of the reason all kinds of extra
+</I>&gt;<i> stuff gets pulled in is because Default-kde4-config and
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-kde4-config-common both have added dependencies on plasma applets
+</I>&gt;<i> (plasma-applet-icontasks and plasma-applet-battery, respectively), which
+</I>&gt;<i> certainly seems wrong. &#160;I don't know if this accounts for all of the extra stuff
+</I>&gt;<i> getting pulled in. &#160;If I knew for sure, I'd file a bug.
+</I>
+If you want this to be fixed, try upgrading again such a mga1 config to mga2,
+but with the following commands:
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+N=bug_kde-upgrade
+urpmi --bug $N --auto-select -vv --debug 2&gt;&amp;1 | tee LOG.kde
+tar cfa ${N}{.tar.xz,}
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+Then you can open a bug report, attaching both the log file and the
+bug_kde-upgrade.tar.xz tarball.
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+I guess you keep a backup or a snapshot of your VM?
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+&gt;<i> I'm currently in contact with some seamonkey developers, to maybe clear up
+</I>&gt;<i> why/if the rebrand is needed, if it's needed like it's currently done, and
+</I>&gt;<i> why Fedora can simply ship seamonkey without the need for a rebrand, but
+</I>&gt;<i> the dialog may take some time, this would be only relevant for option 2.
+</I>
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+As a followup, an answer from Justin Callek, seamonkey developer:
+
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+Am 28.03.2012 19:02, schrieb Justin Wood (Callek):
+&gt;<i> Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Could you please expand on this, and tell me if we need to rebrand seamonkey if
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> we want to ship it, and how far the rebrand has to go and under
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> which conditions we need to do the rebrand. As i'm currently wondering why
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> f.ex. Fedora can ship seamonkey without any rebranding, or do they have
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> official approval?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Top of my head I'm not sure on the Fedora situation, so I won't comment
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> on that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You know whom i can ask about this? No pressing issue, though ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Would be nice if somebody could tell me wether the Fedora way is approved,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> because one of my options would be to drop iceape in it's current form
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as it's hassle to maintain, and to reimport seamonkey as Fedora packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it: <A HREF="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=seamonkey.git;a=tree">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=seamonkey.git;a=tree</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Will address the rest of your message later, but this for now...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I will thank Robert Kaiser for providing the wording for the answer of
+</I>&gt;<i> the following, not sure if he meant to send it directly to you as well,
+</I>&gt;<i> but this makes my reply soo much easier.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> `so far, we've handled those cases with a stance of &quot;if you have
+</I>&gt;<i> permission from Mozilla to ship an officially branded Firefox (and
+</I>&gt;<i> Thunderbird) with those code changes, you have permission to ship
+</I>&gt;<i> SeaMonkey with those same changes - if you don't modify the code or
+</I>&gt;<i> deactivate (major) features, you're always allowed to ship with official
+</I>&gt;<i> branding.&quot; As most of those distros offer Firefox and Thunderbird as
+</I>&gt;<i> well, usually with higher priorities as SeaMonkey, that has worked out
+</I>&gt;<i> fine so far without needing special additional rules. `
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As said I'll skim the changes you mentioned, but if you are able to ship
+</I>&gt;<i> Firefox/Thunderbird with these changes and with official branding,
+</I>&gt;<i> consider it a 'go' from us.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+OK, so how do we handle this? As there is no explicit permission
+by Mozilla to have us ship officially branded Mozilla apps, as i've
+put up before, or at least i don't know of any explicit permission.
+
+As this applies to Firefox and Thunderbird as well ...
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+    <B>Julien</B> 
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+    <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B> 
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+Gnome 3.4 was released today :), and the Mageia 2 release candidate is 
+meant to be on the 10th April.  However I have a little request that I 
+hope will be taken seriously. That is for the shut down button to show 
+by default in Gnome 3.4 in Mageia 2.
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+As far as I know it isn't at the moment, I haven't tried Gnome Shell in 
+Cauldron just yet, since when I tried to before with Alpha 1 and 2 
+issues with XFdrake and trying to get my proprietary Nivida driver 
+installed.
+
+Anyway going back on topic I strongly believe that Mageia 2's Gnome 
+Shell should be showing the shut down button by default, even though 
+like Olav and I assume Bkor as well, I would like Mageia's Gnome to stay 
+rather close to upstream by default at the moment.
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+However it won't be using the default theme by default, in fact it will 
+be using a port of the KDE theme, and so I don't think having the shut 
+down button by default will be a problem as such.
+
+Quite a lot of people still want to shut down their computer instead of 
+suspend or leaving it on most/all of the time, and I am one of them.  
+There was also a 60+ year old at my LUG, that I went to for a first time 
+last Saturday, who was using Fedora on a lap top, who wanted to use the 
+shut down button.  He told me how when he was new to Fedora it took him 
+quite a long time to find out how to shut down.
+
+There was quite a lot of stuff before on the web about how it wasn't 
+good to have to press tab for the shut down button to show in the menu.  
+Personally I don't mind doing that as such, but I know that many other 
+people will.
+
+Apparently Debian have the shut down button showing in Gnome Shell.  Not 
+sure about OpenSuse, but it wouldn't surprise me if they do as well.  As 
+for Fedora they stay very close to upstream with Gnome, so of course 
+it's not there by default. Fedora is also aimed at in general slightly 
+more technical users  than what Ubuntu is aimed at for example or in my 
+opinion anyway. As for Mageia we should have the distro aimed at 
+everyone, from brand new users to Desktop Linux, to 
+opensource/freesoftware experts, as a result the shut down button should 
+indeed be showing by default in the menu.
+
+Apparently the extensions need re creating for Gnome 3.4 or something, 
+well ok, but well please let's have the shut down button showing in the 
+menu by default in Mageia 2.
+
+I can imagine a lot of new users being given Mageia on a Live CD to try 
+out, and trying out the Gnome version, then coming back to the person 
+saying something like,  &quot;yeah Mageia Gnome was good, but I had 
+absolutely no idea how to shut it down when I tried it&quot;.  I also think 
+it would be a bit bad to say to these users something like &quot;With the 
+Gnome Shell interface in Mageia 2 the developers of it decided to remove 
+the shut down button by default, so if you want to shut down you have to 
+press tab, to get it to show&quot;.
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+&gt;<i> nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1.6.6 is a bugfix release.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Submitted.
+</I>&gt;<i> Should we update this for Mageia 1?  Version 1.4.12 fixes the same
+</I>&gt;<i> vulnerabilities.  They don't look too serious to me, but who am I to judge?
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>I'll take a look tomorrow, thanks for the info ...
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+    <B>John Balcaen</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/28 David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> John Balcaen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mikala at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 28 mars 2012 12:40, &quot;David Walser&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit&#160;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I'm not 100% sure, but I think at least some of the reason all kinds of extra
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; stuff gets pulled in is because Default-kde4-config and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; mageia-kde4-config-common both have added dependencies on plasma applets
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; (plasma-applet-icontasks and plasma-applet-battery, respectively), which
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; certainly seems wrong.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nop, default config use iconstasks so we'll end up with a broken panel if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it was not pulled.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then this is definitely wrong. &#160;Those config packages are required even when
+</I>&gt;<i> you don't have KDE itself installed, so there's no panel to be broken. &#160;Those
+</I>&gt;<i> requires should be elsewhere.
+</I>What is wrong here ?
+That's the default config *requires* iconstasks package ?
+As said earlier currently the default config (&amp; not the vanilla one or
+netbook) use the iconstasks plasmoid, how are you going to ensure that
+this plasmoid is installed when using the default configuration and
+then don't have a broken panel for the default mageia panel ? (i'm not
+sure ennael will be agree to add yet another package in rpmstrate/bcd
+config just for that when it could be done in the spec )
+If the problem is that the &#171; default &#187; config package are wrongly
+required that's something else and we need to narrow here the wrong
+requires.
+
+Regards,
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+&gt;<i> What is wrong here ?
+</I>&gt;<i> That's the default config *requires* iconstasks package ?
+</I>&gt;<i> As said earlier currently the default config (&amp; not the vanilla one or
+</I>&gt;<i> netbook) use the iconstasks plasmoid, how are you going to ensure that
+</I>&gt;<i> this plasmoid is installed when using the default configuration and
+</I>&gt;<i> then don't have a broken panel for the default mageia panel ? (i'm not
+</I>&gt;<i> sure ennael will be agree to add yet another package in rpmstrate/bcd
+</I>&gt;<i> config just for that when it could be done in the spec )
+</I>&gt;<i> If the problem is that the &#171; default &#187; config package are wrongly
+</I>&gt;<i> required that's something else and we need to narrow here the wrong
+</I>&gt;<i> requires.
+</I>
+Then why not have the package that contains the panel require it?  How about
+putting the requires into kdebase4-workspace?  Again, I'm not 100% sure this is
+why all the extra stuff got installed on upgrade, so it's just a thought.
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+The bigger problem is now I can't uninstall kdebase4-workspace (which I didn't
+have installed before the upgrade, and which contains the wmsession file to make
+KDE the default window manager and a login option, and pulls in most of the
+remaining dependencies) without it forcing me to uninstall ark,
+kdebase4-runtime, kdelibs4-core, kdm, and konsole, which I did have installed
+before the upgrade and would like to keep.
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+[...]
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then why not have the package that contains the panel require it?
+</I>That's already the case.
+default-config provides the configuration for the default mageia panel
+which is using icontasks plasmoid.
+For the record the panel is just a configuration file &amp; to be more
+precise we're now using the .js configuration since global use of
+plasmarc files are dead upstream (i personally think this drop happens
+quite lately in kde 4.8 but that's another point).
+&gt;<i> &#160;How about
+</I>&gt;<i> putting the requires into kdebase4-workspace?
+</I>Why should we add this requires on kde-workspace ?
+kde-workspace does not need icontasks to work, also what about the
+user simply using the vanilla-config file (aka default's upstream
+configuration).
+
+&gt;<i>&#160;Again, I'm not 100% sure this is
+</I>&gt;<i> why all the extra stuff got installed on upgrade, so it's just a thought.
+</I>Without logs there is nothing we can do here (not to mention that
+currently only Luc is  active since i'm more the man talking with
+email without box to test/apply/upgrade :/ )
+
+&gt;<i> The bigger problem is now I can't uninstall kdebase4-workspace (which I didn't
+</I>&gt;<i> have installed before the upgrade, and which contains the wmsession file to make
+</I>&gt;<i> KDE the default window manager and a login option, and pulls in most of the
+</I>&gt;<i> remaining dependencies) without it forcing me to uninstall ark,
+</I>&gt;<i> kdebase4-runtime, kdelibs4-core, kdm, and konsole, which I did have installed
+</I>&gt;<i> before the upgrade and would like to keep.
+</I>Providing some logs here could help a lot to narrow an eventually
+wrong requires.
+So you should probably open at least one bug report against kdm with
+log because we can of course miss something during our work to
+clean/fix some issues inside kde's packaging between mga1 &amp; mga2 (from
+what i understand you want to only use kdm , ark, konsole) and add as
+cc at least luc, juancho and me.
+
+
+-- 
+Balcaen John
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+    <B>simple w8</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 02:17:15 PM simple w8 wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/21 Claire Robinson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">eeeemail at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On 21/03/12 15:25, simple w8 wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 2012/3/21 Oliver Burger&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Am 21.03.2012 14:33, schrieb simple w8:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Today i have tried to package an updated wpa_supplicant (from git) and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; was not possible due to missing texlive features.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; make: *** [pdf] Error 9
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Is jadetex installed?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Oliver
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &#160;Yes
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; This is probably related to bug 1538
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1538">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1538</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; jadetex is missing a require on texlive-texmf
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Try installing texlive-texmf and reinstalling jadetex.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Claire
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> All texlive packages are isntalled along with jadetex.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For what i see there are missing apps from texlive, there are severall
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> texlive packages, not just single source.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe texlive maintainer could check mandriva texlive packages and update
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mageia
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva is very different, they divide the texlive package into about 1,500
+</I>&gt;<i> packages.
+</I>
+The point is that are missing texlive files that for example are
+required to build wpa_supplicant documentation like i have previously
+pointed.
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+&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas Spuhler
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+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not 100% sure, but I think at least some of the reason all kinds of extra
+</I>&gt;<i> stuff gets pulled in is because Default-kde4-config and
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-kde4-config-common both have added dependencies on plasma applets
+</I>&gt;<i> (plasma-applet-icontasks and plasma-applet-battery, respectively),
+</I>
+kdm requires some config files provided by kde4-config-file, that's mean 
+either Default-kde4-config, vanilla-kde4-config or netbook-kde4-config.
+  urpmq --requires kdm
+    kdebase4-runtime
+    kde4-config-file[&gt;= 2]
+    [...]
+  urpmq --whatprovides kde4-config-file
+    vanilla-kde4-config|Default-kde4-config|netbook-kde4-config
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+so, you can use vanilla-kde4-config instead of Default-kde4-config, and 
+you will remove the requires on plasma-applet-icontasks and all its 
+dependencies.
+
+As previously said by John and Thierry, logs could help a lot to narrow 
+an eventually wrong requires.
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+btw, on a server, perhaps you could replace kdm by a lighter login manager.
+
+regards,
+Luc
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:57:47 -0400, simple w8 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">simplew8 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I use sometimes to boo Windows, and if i need some file i use to mount
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> my /home encrypted partition using FreeOTFE (or TrueCrypt) to access
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the files i need, but i saw today that the /home partition that was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> created in mageia is not possible to mount with FreeOTFE or TrueCrypt.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But the /home partition created with mandriva drakdisk can be mounted
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with those 2 applications, so seams that Mageia drakdisk isnt doing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> something right.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That's likely a result of
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3092">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3092</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With the default settings, cryptsetup uses cbc mode encryption,
+</I>&gt;<i> which makes it much more likely that it can be cracked.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See <A HREF="http://clemens.endorphin.org/nmihde/nmihde-A4-os.pdf">http://clemens.endorphin.org/nmihde/nmihde-A4-os.pdf</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> for an explanation of how this is done.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In Mageia's diskdrake, the setting is overridden to use xts mode,
+</I>&gt;<i> instead of cbc mode.
+</I>
+Something is not right, Free-OTFE says is does support xts but its not
+being able to mount the partitions encrypted in Mageia, what can be
+the cause?
+
+You may see the FreeOTFE supported cypher modes here:
+<A HREF="http://www.freeotfe.org/docs/Main/Linux_volumes.htm">http://www.freeotfe.org/docs/Main/Linux_volumes.htm</A>
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+&gt;<i> David Walser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lm_sensors 3.3.2 just came out last week with this in the ChangeLog [1]:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Change sysfs detection to survive upcoming kernel changes&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not sure if that means kernel 3.3 or newer, but just a heads up (mainly to tmb) that we might 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> need this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [1] - <A HREF="http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/tags/V3-3-2/CHANGES">http://www.lm-sensors.org/browser/lm-sensors/tags/V3-3-2/CHANGES</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas, you're our kernel guru :o)  Did you make a determination about this one?
+</I>
+Has anyone seen Thomas Backlund?  I tried e-mailing him and he hasn't been on IRC.
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+&gt;<i> Rebuilding PHP did not help.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> We need to revert this ASAP or find a way to fix PHP to be compatible
+</I>&gt;<i> and find out which other packages may be broken as a result.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+OK, I synced it with the version in Mageia 1 updates, so this is ready to go.
+
+I need a sysadmin to push it because of downgrading the version.  Now it will be:
+libmbfl-1.1.0-6.mga2
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+Sorry again for the mistake.
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+    <B>simple w8</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/29 simple w8 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">simplew8 at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/21 David W. Hodgins &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">davidwhodgins at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 20:57:47 -0400, simple w8 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">simplew8 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I use sometimes to boo Windows, and if i need some file i use to mount
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> my /home encrypted partition using FreeOTFE (or TrueCrypt) to access
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the files i need, but i saw today that the /home partition that was
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> created in mageia is not possible to mount with FreeOTFE or TrueCrypt.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But the /home partition created with mandriva drakdisk can be mounted
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with those 2 applications, so seams that Mageia drakdisk isnt doing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> something right.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's likely a result of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3092">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3092</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> With the default settings, cryptsetup uses cbc mode encryption,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> which makes it much more likely that it can be cracked.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See <A HREF="http://clemens.endorphin.org/nmihde/nmihde-A4-os.pdf">http://clemens.endorphin.org/nmihde/nmihde-A4-os.pdf</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for an explanation of how this is done.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In Mageia's diskdrake, the setting is overridden to use xts mode,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> instead of cbc mode.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Something is not right, Free-OTFE says is does support xts but its not
+</I>&gt;<i> being able to mount the partitions encrypted in Mageia, what can be
+</I>&gt;<i> the cause?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You may see the FreeOTFE supported cypher modes here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.freeotfe.org/docs/Main/Linux_volumes.htm">http://www.freeotfe.org/docs/Main/Linux_volumes.htm</A>
+</I>
+I have been looking to the supported cyphers and hashes in FreeOTFE
+and i see that the cypher XTS with keysize 512 is not supported,
+however supports keysizes 128,192,256 and 1024.
+
+You have chosen thekeysize 512 thats the one is not supported under
+the FreeOTFE project...
+Isnt possible to change the keysize to a value that can be supported
+under Windows?
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+&gt;<i> Something is not right, Free-OTFE says is does support xts but its not
+</I>&gt;<i> being able to mount the partitions encrypted in Mageia, what can be
+</I>&gt;<i> the cause?
+</I>
+We're using --cipher aes-xts-benbi --key-size 512.
+
+As per <A HREF="http://www.ody.ca/~dwhodgins/Luks-Howto.html#Changelog">http://www.ody.ca/~dwhodgins/Luks-Howto.html#Changelog</A>
+this was suggested to me several years ago, and is what I've been
+using since then.
+
+&gt;<i> You may see the FreeOTFE supported cypher modes here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.freeotfe.org/docs/Main/Linux_volumes.htm">http://www.freeotfe.org/docs/Main/Linux_volumes.htm</A>
+</I>
+I wasn't aware luks encrypted volumes could be opened by anything
+else, or I would have considered that when suggesting the cipher
+change.
+
+I don't think using the benbi initial vector generation algorithm (64 bit)
+instead of the plain (32 bit) algorithm makes much of a difference,
+in terms of security.  It was just the cbc mode that I was concerned
+with.
+
+Can you modify /usr/lib/libDrakX/fs/dmcrypt.pm to use aes-xts-plain
+(line 68), create an encrypted volume, and test it with freeotfe?
+  If that works, open a bug report and request the change.
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Rebuilding PHP did not help.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We need to revert this ASAP or find a way to fix PHP to be compatible
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and find out which other packages may be broken as a result.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Col
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, I synced it with the version in Mageia 1 updates, so this is ready to
+</I>&gt;<i> go.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I need a sysadmin to push it because of downgrading the version.  Now it
+</I>&gt;<i> will be: libmbfl-1.1.0-6.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry again for the mistake.
+</I>
+Do we need to rebuild php after this downgrade
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+&gt;<i> On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 04:28:42 PM David Walser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Rebuilding PHP did not help.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We need to revert this ASAP or find a way to fix PHP to be compatible
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and find out which other packages may be broken as a result.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OK, I synced it with the version in Mageia 1 updates, so this is ready to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> go.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I need a sysadmin to push it because of downgrading the version.  Now it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> will be: libmbfl-1.1.0-6.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry again for the mistake.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Do we need to rebuild php after this downgrade
+</I>
+Shouldn't be needed in theory (I rebuilt PHP against the new version and
+it still broke in the same way, and when downgrading the lib that
+rebuilt PHP just worked).
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Please let in rpmdrake.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It now displays a graphical error message when a error happens early
+</I>&gt;<i> when opening the rpmdb
+</I>&gt;<i> such as when debug environment does not exist
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It also fixes a regression where only first arch of a package seen
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+&gt;<i> Anyway going back on topic I strongly believe that Mageia 2's Gnome
+</I>&gt;<i> Shell should be showing the shut down button by default, even though
+</I>&gt;<i> like Olav and I assume Bkor as well, I would like Mageia's Gnome to
+</I>&gt;<i> stay rather close to upstream by default at the moment.
+</I>
+I don't care about this specific topic (shutdown button).
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+Oxygen is something that I'd wish wasn't the default within GNOME 3.
+
+For the shut down button: if someone packages it and keeps it up to
+date, handles bugs if any (meaning: maintainer), then cool.
+
+Don't forget that GNOME shell extensions only work with a specific
+version and I won't wait with updating gnome-shell or look at the
+shutdown button package if it happens to be packaged when gnome-shell is
+updated (IMO: package upgrades should be automated as much as possible).
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+&gt;<i> On 28 March 2012 22:45, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Please let in rpmdrake.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It now displays a graphical error message when a error happens early
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; when opening the rpmdb
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; such as when debug environment does not exist
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It also fixes a regression where only first arch of a package seen
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; when listing packages would
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; be displayed (mga#5047).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Ping?
+</I>
+Submitted.
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+</I>&gt;<i> OK, so how do we handle this? As there is no explicit permission
+</I>&gt;<i> by Mozilla to have us ship officially branded Mozilla apps, as i've
+</I>&gt;<i> put up before, or at least i don't know of any explicit permission.
+</I>
+It seems that if we don't have major changes, there should be no problem
+to have permission. So I think someone should ask for permission for
+firefox and thunderbird. Does anyone know where it should be asked ?
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+<PRE>On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, David Walser wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Rebuilding PHP did not help.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We need to revert this ASAP or find a way to fix PHP to be compatible
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and find out which other packages may be broken as a result.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Col
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, I synced it with the version in Mageia 1 updates, so this is ready to go.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I need a sysadmin to push it because of downgrading the version.  Now it will be:
+</I>&gt;<i> libmbfl-1.1.0-6.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry again for the mistake.
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+    <B>Damien Lallement</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> Can you please push pidgin-sipe.
+</I>&gt;<i> The new version (1.13.0) is a bug fix version:
+</I>&gt;<i> - add TLS-DSK authentification scheme (mandatory for Office365)
+</I>&gt;<i> - add non-public Lync support
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix build vith latest glib2
+</I>&gt;<i> - refactored crypto code
+</I>&gt;<i> - remove kopete backend (telepathy now)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/sipe/files/sipe/pidgin-sipe-1.13.0/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/sipe/files/sipe/pidgin-sipe-1.13.0/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>
+ping ?
+-- 
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+    <B>philippe makowski</B> 
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+I see that we have a broken dependency with gnome-python-gtkmozembed
+not really a surprise since ther is no maintainer and it have to be
+rebuild each time that libxulrunner is updated
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+Mandriva still have gnome-python-gtkmozembed but I see that Fedora
+obsolete it, as gtkhtml2
+<A HREF="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=gnome-python2-extras.git;a=commit;h=2b7dc62779bb919c917a37efff7593b99f815d72">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=gnome-python2-extras.git;a=commit;h=2b7dc62779bb919c917a37efff7593b99f815d72</A>
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+years (<A HREF="https://wiki.mozilla.org/Gtkmozembed">https://wiki.mozilla.org/Gtkmozembed</A>)
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - add new firmwares:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* PITCAIRN, TAHITI, VERDE (Southern Islands / HD7xxx)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;* ARUBA (trinity APU)
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's useless unless we backport kernel&amp; &#160;x11-driver-video-ati support
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do you plan to do so?
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Yep. That's the idea.
+</I>
+libdrm-2.4.33 &amp; xf86-video-ati-6.14.4 are for you
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+    <B>D.Morgan</B> 
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+    <B>Bertaux Xavier</B> 
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+Le 29/03/2012 17:32, D.Morgan a &#233;crit :
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Why ?
+</I>
+Because newer versions of sun java are not longer available under the
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+<A HREF="http://robilad.livejournal.com/90792.html">http://robilad.livejournal.com/90792.html</A>
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+Thank's
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+Le 29/03/2012 18:44, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Bertaux Xavier wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Because newer versions of sun java are not longer available under the
+</I>&gt;<i> same license as before :
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+&gt;<i> Le 28/03/2012 10:49, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Damien Lallement wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 21/03/2012 18:07, Damien Lallement a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12 (replacing f-spot in 2) will soon be available.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For now, a new version of libexiv2 is needed for the last git snapshot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please push both packages as their were a lot a bug fixes since 3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> weeks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12 should be available in 2 weeks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libgexiv2 first please... ;-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12.0 final is out.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please submit it, I tested it on my laptop.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Submission errors, aborting:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - shotwell-0.12.0-1.src:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - invalid value 1 for tag release
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oops, sorry, fixed.
+</I>&gt;<i> You can submit.
+</I>
+Can you push shotwell 0.12.1 please?
+It's a bug fix release for a new bug in 0.12.0: it was missing an .ui 
+file in the 0.12.0 tarball.
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le 28/03/2012 11:39, Damien Lallement a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 28/03/2012 10:49, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Damien Lallement wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 21/03/2012 18:07, Damien Lallement a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12 (replacing f-spot in 2) will soon be available.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For now, a new version of libexiv2 is needed for the last git snapshot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please push both packages as their were a lot a bug fixes since 3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> weeks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12 should be available in 2 weeks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> libgexiv2 first please... ;-)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shotwell 0.12.0 final is out.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please submit it, I tested it on my laptop.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Submission errors, aborting:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - shotwell-0.12.0-1.src:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - invalid value 1 for tag release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oops, sorry, fixed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You can submit.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you push shotwell 0.12.1 please?
+</I>&gt;<i> It's a bug fix release for a new bug in 0.12.0: it was missing an .ui file 
+</I>&gt;<i> in the 0.12.0 tarball.
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+<PRE>Luc Menut &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lmenut at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+&gt;<i> Le 28/03/2012 18:40, David Walser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm not 100% sure, but I think at least some of the reason all kinds of extra
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; stuff gets pulled in is because Default-kde4-config and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mageia-kde4-config-common both have added dependencies on plasma applets
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (plasma-applet-icontasks and plasma-applet-battery, respectively),
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> kdm requires some config files provided by kde4-config-file, that's mean 
+</I>&gt;<i> either Default-kde4-config, vanilla-kde4-config or netbook-kde4-config.
+</I>&gt;<i>   urpmq --requires kdm
+</I>&gt;<i>     kdebase4-runtime
+</I>&gt;<i>     kde4-config-file[&gt;= 2]
+</I>&gt;<i>     [...]
+</I>&gt;<i>   urpmq --whatprovides kde4-config-file
+</I>&gt;<i>     vanilla-kde4-config|Default-kde4-config|netbook-kde4-config
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> so, you can use vanilla-kde4-config instead of Default-kde4-config, and 
+</I>&gt;<i> you will remove the requires on plasma-applet-icontasks and all its 
+</I>&gt;<i> dependencies.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> As previously said by John and Thierry, logs could help a lot to narrow 
+</I>&gt;<i> an eventually wrong requires.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> btw, on a server, perhaps you could replace kdm by a lighter login manager.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Luc
+</I>
+Thanks Luc.  Installing vanilla-kde4-config allows kdebase4-workspace to be
+removed.  So basically ark/konsole/kdm require libkdecore5, which requires
+kde4-config-file, and the packages that satisfy that dependency require a ton
+of stuff, especially Default-kde4-config, which requires a lot more than it
+did in Mageia 1.  It shouldn't be terribly difficult to suss this out, just
+by testing uninstalling the KDE packages and then installing one of the config
+packages and seeing what it pulls in.
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+If you still think you need anything from me, let me know, but I don't see that
+you will.  Just a note to tv, I did the upgrade with the installer and not
+urpmi, so I don't have urpmi logs but I do have drakx logs.
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+    <B>John Balcaen</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hello.
+</I>Hi,
+
+&gt;<i> I'm candidate to packagers team organization. I am of course very motivated,
+</I>&gt;<i> and I promise no one ever tried to suggest me to stand up for this task :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, I could deliver a long speech about my skills, intents, and what
+</I>&gt;<i> I could bring to the distribution, but given I'm just the second candidate
+</I>&gt;<i> for 3 seats, is it really necessary ?
+</I>of course :)
+
+-- 
+Balcaen John
+Jabber-id: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mikala at jabber.littleboboy.net</A>
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> i removed java sun from non free repository as now we are not able to
+</I>&gt;<i> provide it anymore.
+</I>
+Should we have openjdk obsolete it so this insecure thing gets removed from
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+<PRE>Le 22/03/2012 21:42, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 20.03.2012 18:48, Guillaume Rousse kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 17/03/2012 03:22, Anssi Hannula a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hence I suggest a single user id to be used. (I'm fine with any other
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> solution which works as well)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My main concern is the fuzziness of the current situation where we have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - one virtual package 'webserver' corresponding to four implementations
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (apache, lightpd, nginx, cherooke)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - one common base (webserver-base) only used by the two first ones
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - all our web applications packages using 'apache' as mandatory dependency
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If the main concern is file ownership, I'd propose for the next release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to have each of these servers use a distinct uid, document root and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> index page, but use a shared 'webserver' or 'www' gid, and ensure all of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> those applications use group-based permission, instead of user-based.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'd find this setup a bit clearer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd rather they all use the traditional document root &quot;/var/www/html&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> but I don't really care much as long as the webapps are usable with both
+</I>&gt;<i> apache and lighttpd.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure if all webapps can easily work with group-based
+</I>&gt;<i> permissions, but maybe they do (I don't know much about them)...
+</I>We will test group-based file permissions in next release.
+
+However, I'm suggesting right now remove 'webserver' virtual package 
+from nginx and cherooke, and to keep it only for those relying on 
+'webserver-base' base, aka apache and lighttpd. This would make this 
+virtual package sounds more like a minimal interface, implemented by a 
+subset of our web server packages, rather than just a label without 
+meaning. Is that OK for everyone ?
+-- 
+BOFH excuse #349:
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+Stray Alpha Particles from memory packaging caused Hard Memory Error on 
+Server.
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 29/03/2012 19:33, John Balcaen a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> Of course, I could deliver a long speech about my skills, intents, and what
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I could bring to the distribution, but given I'm just the second candidate
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for 3 seats, is it really necessary ?
+</I>&gt;<i> of course :)
+</I>OK, here you have:
+  ______________
+&lt; vote for me! &gt;
+  --------------
+         \   ^__^
+          \  (oo)\_______
+             (__)\       )\/\
+                 ||----w |
+                 ||     ||
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+BOFH excuse #200:
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 29/03/2012 19:35, David Walser a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> D.Morgan&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at ...</A>&gt;  writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i removed java sun from non free repository as now we are not able to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> provide it anymore.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Should we have openjdk obsolete it so this insecure thing gets removed from
+</I>&gt;<i> users systems who already have it installed?
+</I>Don't baysit users too much... As a distribution, you're responsible to 
+provide content, not to manage end-users machines.
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+-- 
+BOFH excuse #287:
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+Telecommunications is downshifting.
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<PRE>This is mostly a bugfix release, fixing 5 different vulnerabilities:
+<A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/expat/files/expat/2.1.0/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/expat/files/expat/2.1.0/</A>
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+&gt;<i> D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i removed java sun from non free repository as now we are not able to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> provide it anymore.
+</I>&gt;<i> Should we have openjdk obsolete it so this insecure thing gets removed from
+</I>&gt;<i> users systems who already have it installed?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Actually i thought <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3101#c10">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3101#c10</A>
+to be a good idea. So we should now at least have it automatically removed
+from end-user machines, one way or another.
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+This is not about babysitting, but caring for security of our users.
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 29/03/2012 20:26, Florian Hubold a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Actually i thought <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3101#c10">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3101#c10</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> to be a good idea. So we should now at least have it automatically removed
+</I>&gt;<i> from end-user machines, one way or another.
+</I>*automatically* is the contention point here.
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+&gt;<i> This is not about babysitting, but caring for security of our users.
+</I>Advise the problem, then, but don't treat users as blatant idiots.
+
+If I want to keep a proprietary JRE on my computers, because I trust it 
+more to run crap proprietary applications (also called 
+corporate-compliants), than marvelous free-licensed environment they 
+have never been tested with, that is my choice, not yours.
+-- 
+BOFH excuse #150:
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+Arcserve crashed the server again.
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hello.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm candidate to packagers team organization. I am of course very 
+</I>&gt;<i> motivated, and I promise no one ever tried to suggest me to stand up for 
+</I>&gt;<i> this task :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, I could deliver a long speech about my skills, intents, and what 
+</I>&gt;<i> I could bring to the distribution, but given I'm just the second candidate 
+</I>&gt;<i> for 3 seats, is it really necessary ?
+</I>
+As there is one seat left, I can be the 3rd one. So I will be candidate
+to help on packagers team organization too. I can help on release
+process, team organization, etc ... especially for things involving
+sysadmin as I'm also part of sysadmin team.
+
+Of course, I could also deliver a long speech about my skills, intents,
+and what I could bring to the distribution, but given I'm just the third
+candidate for 3 seats, is it really necessary ?
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> This is mostly a bugfix release, fixing 5 different vulnerabilities:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/expat/files/expat/2.1.0/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/expat/files/expat/2.1.0/</A>
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 29/03/2012 20:50, nicolas vigier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Of course, I could also deliver a long speech about my skills, intents,
+</I>&gt;<i> and what I could bring to the distribution, but given I'm just the third
+</I>&gt;<i> candidate for 3 seats, is it really necessary ?
+</I>Of course (I had to do it myself...)
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+BOFH excuse #179:
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java">luigiwalser at yahoo.com
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+<PRE>Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+&gt;<i> If I want to keep a proprietary JRE on my computers, because I trust it 
+</I>&gt;<i> more to run crap proprietary applications (also called 
+</I>&gt;<i> corporate-compliants), than marvelous free-licensed environment they 
+</I>&gt;<i> have never been tested with, that is my choice, not yours.
+</I>
+If they really want to keep Sun Java, shouldn't they just download the installer
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+    <B>Emmanuel Andry</B> 
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+    <I>Thu Mar 29 21:52:04 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hi everyone,
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+I hoped having time to work on my packages on mageia, but because of my
+spare time going shorter, I can't.
+
+Please feel free to maintain my packages.
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+Thanks, and sorry for the delay of my feedback.
+
+Long life to Mageia !
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+  
+-- 
+Emmanuel Andry &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">eandry at free.fr</A>&gt;
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+    <B>zezinho</B> 
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+<PRE>Please submit phpmyadmin 3.4.10.2, simple bugfix for 3.4.10.1:
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+<A HREF="http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/security/PMASA-2012-2.php">http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/security/PMASA-2012-2.php</A>
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Please submit phpmyadmin 3.4.10.2, simple bugfix for 3.4.10.1:
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 29 maart 2012 21:08:22 schreef David Walser:
+&gt;<i> Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If I want to keep a proprietary JRE on my computers, because I trust it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; more to run crap proprietary applications (also called
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; corporate-compliants), than marvelous free-licensed environment they
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; have never been tested with, that is my choice, not yours.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If they really want to keep Sun Java, shouldn't they just download the
+</I>&gt;<i> installer from Sun and install it themselves, rather than using some
+</I>&gt;<i> obsolete Mageia 1 package of it?
+</I>
+
+well, iinm the version that the people have, will still have the correct 
+license and we are able to distribute it fine.
+
+i would argue that if security bugs we could remove it, but i'm not too sure 
+on this point... i mean, can we really remove it from them? otoh, people 
+wanting to have the proprietary ones, likely know what they are doing...
+
+perhaps we can obsolete it with one of those nonfree getters? (if security 
+bug)
+
+or, maybe a package that gives an README.urpmi ...
+
+IMHO: i think obsoleting it is fine, but with a README.urpmi that says notifies 
+that it's been obsoleted.
+
+(unless someone wants to have and maintain a nonfree getter application that 
+fetches the upstream releases)
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+<PRE>Am 29.03.2012 00:39, schrieb simple w8:
+&gt;<i> 2012/3/22 Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wednesday, March 21, 2012 02:17:15 PM simple w8 wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/21 Claire Robinson &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">eeeemail at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 21/03/12 15:25, simple w8 wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/3/21 Oliver Burger&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 21.03.2012 14:33, schrieb simple w8:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Today i have tried to package an updated wpa_supplicant (from git) and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> was not possible due to missing texlive features.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I can't find the format file `pdfjadetex.fmt'!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> make: *** [pdf] Error 9
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is jadetex installed?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>  Yes
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is probably related to bug 1538
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1538">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1538</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> jadetex is missing a require on texlive-texmf
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Try installing texlive-texmf and reinstalling jadetex.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Claire
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> All texlive packages are isntalled along with jadetex.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For what i see there are missing apps from texlive, there are severall
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> texlive packages, not just single source.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe texlive maintainer could check mandriva texlive packages and update
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mandriva is very different, they divide the texlive package into about 1,500
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages.
+</I>&gt;<i> The point is that are missing texlive files that for example are
+</I>&gt;<i> required to build wpa_supplicant documentation like i have previously
+</I>&gt;<i> pointed.
+</I>Well, there's a manpage, what documentation are you missing?
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> xen-4.1.0-1.mga1 is now avaliable in the repos.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And as of kernel-2.6.38.2-4.mga1 there has been some cleanups and addons
+</I>&gt;<i> for xen:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> There is now a kernel-xen-pvops that also should work as dom0.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Now this is mostly upstream kenel.org code so its not as fully
+</I>&gt;<i> featured as the old kernel-xen. You can see the features listed here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps.">http://wiki.xensource.com/xenwiki/XenParavirtOps.</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> There is one exception: our 2.6.38 kernel has xen-netback backend driver
+</I>&gt;<i> added.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So those of you that have been using xen, please test atleast the
+</I>&gt;<i> following:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> - check that kernel-server still works as a xen guest
+</I>&gt;<i> - try to use kernel-xen-pvops as dom0 and see how it works
+</I>&gt;<i> (you can also try to use kernel-xen-pvops as a normal xen guest)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Have fun...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
+i don't know how much people have been testing, but...
+
+dom0 xen didn't work with .xz kernels, i put in a patch for that, and now it 
+works.
+
+in a kvm guest, i've got a working xen dom0 host, but the libvirtd 
+implementation seems unable to find the cpu architecture, and if i force to be 
+the same as the host, i am unable to boot the dom0 anymore. (i think this is 
+likely due to the nature of a KVM guest not really being suitable for a XEN 
+dom0).
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+i've tried a physical server, but when i finally got to the point of libvirtd, 
+it seemed to not bootup anymore (it was an old disk, which i thought got 
+broken, seeing the IO errors)
+
+I put in a new disk, only to note that the X2 suddenly only had 1 core, which 
+i found very odd, and i noticed the IO errors before  (and also now) were 
+really sata bus errors... (and if i remember correctly this machine had been 
+used with a semi-exploding PowerSupply)... so i think this mobo/cpu is 
+fried... now i need to find new hardware to restart testing again :-( .
+
+note that allthough i can have everything running, i never tested with actual 
+guests, let alone online migrations...
+
+however, i did find out that this xenpvops has 2 different toolchains:
+
+xm and xl. xl seems to do pretty much the same, but apparently doesn't require 
+xend to be running (it reacts directly to the kernel/hypervisor?)
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+also the xencommons init script seems to start xenconsoled and xenstored on 
+it's own.
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+i'm thinking of removing both those init scripts and having xend not start as 
+default. (allthough i don't know about xendomains).
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+i'll keep you guys posted.
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OK, so how do we handle this? As there is no explicit permission
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> by Mozilla to have us ship officially branded Mozilla apps, as i've
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> put up before, or at least i don't know of any explicit permission.
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems that if we don't have major changes, there should be no problem
+</I>&gt;<i> to have permission. So I think someone should ask for permission for
+</I>&gt;<i> firefox and thunderbird. Does anyone know where it should be asked ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Judging by <A HREF="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555935">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555935</A>
+it should be done through Mozilla bugzilla, and they're going through
+each patch and every change.
+
+But i don't see chances that we'll get through this until release freeze,
+that's why i've tried to put this up before.
+
+I've just mailed Kev Needham (Mozilla Distribution Channel Manager)
+how to proceed with a trademark permission request and if there's
+an estimate how much time that would take.
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+it looks like it needed a rebuild, but the rebuild failed with automake errors 
+of some kind...
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+tbh: i don't really care about this package, and have no idea if anyone 
+(except reporter) actually uses this, is it even useful?
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+so, since it has no maintainer, and it doesn't work anymore, and it can't be 
+rebuilt... perhaps we should drop it. if someone wants to have it, he can 
+likely get it from upstream directly?
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+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 29 maart 2012 21:08:22 schreef David Walser:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; If I want to keep a proprietary JRE on my computers, because I trust it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; more to run crap proprietary applications (also called
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; corporate-compliants), than marvelous free-licensed environment they
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; have never been tested with, that is my choice, not yours.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If they really want to keep Sun Java, shouldn't they just download the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; installer from Sun and install it themselves, rather than using some
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; obsolete Mageia 1 package of it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> well, iinm the version that the people have, will still have the correct
+</I>&gt;<i> license and we are able to distribute it fine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i would argue that if security bugs we could remove it, but i'm not too
+</I>&gt;<i> sure
+</I>&gt;<i> on this point... i mean, can we really remove it from them? otoh, people
+</I>&gt;<i> wanting to have the proprietary ones, likely know what they are doing...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Critical-Java-hole-being-exploited-on-a-large-scale-Update-1485681.html">http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Critical-Java-hole-being-exploited-on-a-large-scale-Update-1485681.html</A>
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+If people want it they should install the fixed version that we are not
+allowed to distribute
+
+perhaps we can obsolete it with one of those nonfree getters? (if security
+&gt;<i> bug)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> or, maybe a package that gives an README.urpmi ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IMHO: i think obsoleting it is fine, but with a README.urpmi that says
+</I>&gt;<i> notifies
+</I>&gt;<i> that it's been obsoleted.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yes that seems the best solution to me
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+&gt;<i> (unless someone wants to have and maintain a nonfree getter application
+</I>&gt;<i> that
+</I>&gt;<i> fetches the upstream releases)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we really shouldn't keep stuff we can't maintain...
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+&gt;<i> someone asked me to see about <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5146">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5146</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> it looks like it needed a rebuild, but the rebuild failed with automake errors
+</I>&gt;<i> of some kind...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> tbh: i don't really care about this package, and have no idea if anyone
+</I>&gt;<i> (except reporter) actually uses this, is it even useful?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+This program is REALLY useful for web developers and database admins,
+I use it, so I'll get maintainership of it and try to fix the errors
+as soon as I can (swamped with work lately). See what it's useful for:
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+<A HREF="http://www.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/">http://www.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/</A>
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+<PRE>Am 29.03.2012 22:23, schrieb Maarten Vanraes:
+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 29 maart 2012 21:08:22 schreef David Walser:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If I want to keep a proprietary JRE on my computers, because I trust it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more to run crap proprietary applications (also called
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> corporate-compliants), than marvelous free-licensed environment they
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have never been tested with, that is my choice, not yours.
+</I>So you say that you really want to keep an outdated
+package with many security holes, which even the
+infamous Zeus bot is said to exploit?
+
+Sure, that's your choice and you're free to do this,
+but we can't keep our users susceptible to such
+problems.
+&gt;&gt;<i> If they really want to keep Sun Java, shouldn't they just download the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installer from Sun and install it themselves, rather than using some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> obsolete Mageia 1 package of it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> well, iinm the version that the people have, will still have the correct 
+</I>&gt;<i> license and we are able to distribute it fine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i would argue that if security bugs we could remove it, but i'm not too sure 
+</I>&gt;<i> on this point... i mean, can we really remove it from them? otoh, people 
+</I>&gt;<i> wanting to have the proprietary ones, likely know what they are doing...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> perhaps we can obsolete it with one of those nonfree getters? (if security 
+</I>&gt;<i> bug)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> or, maybe a package that gives an README.urpmi ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IMHO: i think obsoleting it is fine, but with a README.urpmi that says notifies 
+</I>&gt;<i> that it's been obsoleted.
+</I>That was the proposal, and that's what Ubuntu has done,
+IIRC, they blanked the existing packages and notified
+people, that they should either use OpenJDK or manually
+get Java from Oracle.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (unless someone wants to have and maintain a nonfree getter application that 
+</I>&gt;<i> fetches the upstream releases)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we really shouldn't keep stuff we can't maintain...
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 29 maart 2012 23:03:46 schreef Juan Luis Baptiste:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; someone asked me to see about
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5146">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5146</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it looks like it needed a rebuild, but the rebuild failed with automake
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; errors of some kind...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; tbh: i don't really care about this package, and have no idea if anyone
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (except reporter) actually uses this, is it even useful?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This program is REALLY useful for web developers and database admins,
+</I>&gt;<i> I use it, so I'll get maintainership of it and try to fix the errors
+</I>&gt;<i> as soon as I can (swamped with work lately). See what it's useful for:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/">http://www.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/</A>
+</I>
+no offense meant, but i am in $dayjob both a webdev and sysadmin, and i don't 
+use these kind of things, i don't even use phpmyadmin...
+
+unfortunately, atm it doesn't work, so it needs to be rebuilt, but it doesn't 
+rebuild at all... and since we're in version freeze, you can't just update to 
+a new version. even more is that soon is release freeze...
+
+i guess this means you have 1 week to get this fixed... otherwise i think we'll 
+have no choice but to remove it...
+
+good luck, (if you need any pointer or help, i can still try to help/answer 
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+<PRE>Please push mariadb:
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+mariadb (and mysql) seem to have an odd method of increasing version number 
+for each of there alpha/beta/rc/final versions.
+
+This updates to the 5.5 RC release (it's not announced yet, but they are 
+waiting for it to hit all the mirrors)
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+Normally, the final is expected to be released april 9th.
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+    <B>Julien</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push, liferea 1.8.4">julien.moragny at laposte.net
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+    <I>Thu Mar 29 20:31:12 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Le Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:38:46 +0200,
+Julien &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">julien.moragny at laposte.net</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> please push liferea 1.8.4 which fix a crash and some bugs related to
+</I>&gt;<i> performance and usability.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> regards
+</I>&gt;<i> Julien
+</I>
+ping ?
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+    <B>Eugeni Dodonov</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i removed java sun from non free repository as now we are not able to
+</I>&gt;<i> provide it anymore.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Can't it be put into the tainted/PLF sort of repository?
+
+-- 
+Eugeni Dodonov
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+    <B>Remco Rijnders</B> 
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">1333050724.11900.5.camel at manux-home</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>I hoped having time to work on my packages on mageia, but because of my
+</I>&gt;<i>spare time going shorter, I can't.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Please feel free to maintain my packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Thanks, and sorry for the delay of my feedback.
+</I>
+Hi Emmanuel,
+
+Sorry to see you 'go', but thanks for letting us know and not disappearing 
+quietly and leaving us and your packages hanging in limbo. Hopefully your 
+lack of spare time is not caused by anything bad, and perhaps in the 
+future when this changes, you'll consider working on Mageia again. Thanks 
+also for the work you've done on these packages till now.
+
+@everyone else: These are the packages Emmanuel is listed for as the 
+maintainer:
+
+aubio eandry
+autoscan eandry
+brasero eandry
+csound eandry
+dconf eandry
+eject eandry
+empathy eandry
+farsight2 eandry
+fetchmail eandry
+freerdp eandry
+fuse eandry
+ggz-gtk-client eandry
+gnash eandry
+gtk-engines2 eandry
+irqbalance eandry
+libagg eandry
+libcanberra eandry
+libmtp eandry
+libsvg eandry
+libsvg-cairo eandry
+lightspark eandry
+modemmanager eandry
+obexd eandry
+optipng eandry
+orc eandry
+physfs eandry
+pngrewrite eandry
+python-yaml eandry
+quesoglc eandry
+remmina eandry
+remmina-plugins eandry
+stellarium eandry
+udisks eandry
+ultracopier eandry
+usb_modeswitch eandry
+usb_modeswitch-data eandry
+
+Feel free to pick any that have your fancy. I imagine that we'll want to 
+set to 'nobody' any packages that have not been adopted in say a week or 
+two from now?
+
+Thanks,
+
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+    <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Freeze%20push%3A%20libmbfl&In-Reply-To=%3C201203291950.10882.thomas%40btspuhler.com%3E"
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+<PRE>On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 04:28:42 PM David Walser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Rebuilding PHP did not help.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; We need to revert this ASAP or find a way to fix PHP to be compatible
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and find out which other packages may be broken as a result.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Col
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, I synced it with the version in Mageia 1 updates, so this is ready to
+</I>&gt;<i> go.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I need a sysadmin to push it because of downgrading the version.  Now it
+</I>&gt;<i> will be: libmbfl-1.1.0-6.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry again for the mistake.
+</I>
+David, can you please look at this again, it will not upgrade the way it is 
+(downgrade)
+
+-- 
+Best regards
+Thomas Spuhler
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">201203291950.10882.thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 04:28:42 PM David Walser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; We need to revert this ASAP or find a way to fix PHP to be compatible
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; and find out which other packages may be broken as a result.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OK, I synced it with the version in Mageia 1 updates, so this is ready to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> go.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I need a sysadmin to push it because of downgrading the version.  Now it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> will be: libmbfl-1.1.0-6.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>David, can you please look at this again, it will not upgrade the way it is
+</I>&gt;<i>(downgrade)
+</I>
+Thomas, it is my understanding that this is how it should work? That is, 
+downgrades should not be handled automatically in Cauldron. In the stable 
+release, you'd increase the epoch. In Cauldron, everyone affected has to 
+handle this manually as there we don't want to increase the epoch (which 
+would eventually trickle down into stable, and we want to avoid using an 
+epoch unless absolutely necessary).
+
+Just one of the downsides of running the development version on your 
+machine as I understand it.
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 07:50:10PM -0700, Thomas wrote in
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">201203291950.10882.thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 04:28:42 PM David Walser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; We need to revert this ASAP or find a way to fix PHP to be compatible
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; and find out which other packages may be broken as a result.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; OK, I synced it with the version in Mageia 1 updates, so this is ready
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to go.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I need a sysadmin to push it because of downgrading the version.  Now it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; will be: libmbfl-1.1.0-6.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;David, can you please look at this again, it will not upgrade the way it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;is (downgrade)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas, it is my understanding that this is how it should work? That is,
+</I>&gt;<i> downgrades should not be handled automatically in Cauldron. In the stable
+</I>&gt;<i> release, you'd increase the epoch. In Cauldron, everyone affected has to
+</I>&gt;<i> handle this manually as there we don't want to increase the epoch (which
+</I>&gt;<i> would eventually trickle down into stable, and we want to avoid using an
+</I>&gt;<i> epoch unless absolutely necessary).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Just one of the downsides of running the development version on your
+</I>&gt;<i> machine as I understand it.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Remmy
+</I> No problem. I don't know that the automatic update wasn't required.
+I am trying to test php as it throws errors right now.
+
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 07:50:10PM -0700, Thomas wrote in
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">201203291950.10882.thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 04:28:42 PM David Walser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; We need to revert this ASAP or find a way to fix PHP to be compatible
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; and find out which other packages may be broken as a result.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; OK, I synced it with the version in Mageia 1 updates, so this is ready
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to go.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I need a sysadmin to push it because of downgrading the version.  Now it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; will be: libmbfl-1.1.0-6.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;David, can you please look at this again, it will not upgrade the way it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;is (downgrade)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas, it is my understanding that this is how it should work? That is,
+</I>&gt;<i> downgrades should not be handled automatically in Cauldron. In the stable
+</I>&gt;<i> release, you'd increase the epoch. In Cauldron, everyone affected has to
+</I>&gt;<i> handle this manually as there we don't want to increase the epoch (which
+</I>&gt;<i> would eventually trickle down into stable, and we want to avoid using an
+</I>&gt;<i> epoch unless absolutely necessary).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Just one of the downsides of running the development version on your
+</I>&gt;<i> machine as I understand it.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Remmy
+</I>
+It fixed the libmbfl problem.
+I still get this warning. Google only shows it for php-5.4 RC
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+# pear list-upgrades
+PHP Warning:  can't find symbol in Unknown on line 0
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+    <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> 
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+  perl-SVG                       2.500.0      1.mga1        noarch  
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+  perl-XML-RegExp                0.30.0       1.mga1        noarch  
+  perl-XML-XQL                   0.680.0      1.mga1        noarch  
+ (suggested)
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+  python-pyxml                   0.8.4        17.mga1       x86_64  
+  python-reportlab               2.5          5.mga1        x86_64 
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+Should they be rebuilt?
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+    <B>Anne Nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Please push mariadb:
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+</I>&gt;<i> mariadb (and mysql) seem to have an odd method of increasing version number 
+</I>&gt;<i> for each of there alpha/beta/rc/final versions.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This updates to the 5.5 RC release (it's not announced yet, but they are 
+</I>&gt;<i> waiting for it to hit all the mirrors)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Normally, the final is expected to be released april 9th.
+</I>
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 30 maart 2012 04:13:50 schreef Remco Rijnders:
+[...]
+&gt;<i> fetchmail eandry
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> Feel free to pick any that have your fancy. I imagine that we'll want to
+</I>&gt;<i> set to 'nobody' any packages that have not been adopted in say a week or
+</I>&gt;<i> two from now?
+</I>
+actually, i cannot grab one because they are still assigned. please someone 
+set them to nobody.
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+    <B>D.Morgan</B> 
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+    <I>Fri Mar 30 08:29:53 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:03 AM, Eugeni Dodonov &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">eugeni at dodonov.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:32, D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i removed java sun from non free repository as now we are not able to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> provide it anymore.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can't it be put into the tainted/PLF sort of repository?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Eugeni Dodonov
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+tainted is not for nonfree packages and sun doesn't allow to
+redistribute it anymore
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+    <B>Anne Nicolas</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 30/03/2012 00:45, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Please push mariadb:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> mariadb (and mysql) seem to have an odd method of increasing version number 
+</I>&gt;<i> for each of there alpha/beta/rc/final versions.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This updates to the 5.5 RC release (it's not announced yet, but they are 
+</I>&gt;<i> waiting for it to hit all the mirrors)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Normally, the final is expected to be released april 9th.
+</I>
+submitted
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+    <B>D.Morgan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 5:59 AM, Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I just installed inkscape and it pulled the following mga1 packages
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;perl-Math-Calc-Units &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 1.70.0 &#160; &#160; &#160; 1.mga1 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;noarch
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;perl-SVG &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 2.500.0 &#160; &#160; &#160;1.mga1 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;noarch
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;perl-SVG-Parser &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;1.30.0 &#160; &#160; &#160; 1.mga1 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;noarch
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;perl-XML-RegExp &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;0.30.0 &#160; &#160; &#160; 1.mga1 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;noarch
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;perl-XML-XQL &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 0.680.0 &#160; &#160; &#160;1.mga1 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;noarch
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;(suggested)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;python-pyxml &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 0.8.4 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;17.mga1 &#160; &#160; &#160; x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;python-reportlab &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; 2.5 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;5.mga1 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Should they be rebuilt?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+we already spoke of this on this ML.  This is too late to do mass
+rebuild, in mageia 3 we will need to study this more earlier, like
+maybe a massive rebuild after uploading new rpm and gcc
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+    <B>Andres Kaaber</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/30 Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 29 maart 2012 23:03:46 schreef Juan Luis Baptiste:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 3:57 PM, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; someone asked me to see about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5146">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5146</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; it looks like it needed a rebuild, but the rebuild failed with automake
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; errors of some kind...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; tbh: i don't really care about this package, and have no idea if anyone
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; (except reporter) actually uses this, is it even useful?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This program is REALLY useful for web developers and database admins,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I use it, so I'll get maintainership of it and try to fix the errors
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as soon as I can (swamped with work lately). See what it's useful for:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/">http://www.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> no offense meant, but i am in $dayjob both a webdev and sysadmin, and i don't
+</I>&gt;<i> use these kind of things, i don't even use phpmyadmin...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> unfortunately, atm it doesn't work, so it needs to be rebuilt, but it doesn't
+</I>&gt;<i> rebuild at all... and since we're in version freeze, you can't just update to
+</I>&gt;<i> a new version. even more is that soon is release freeze...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i guess this means you have 1 week to get this fixed... otherwise i think we'll
+</I>&gt;<i> have no choice but to remove it...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> good luck, (if you need any pointer or help, i can still try to help/answer
+</I>&gt;<i> you though)
+</I>
+Well, I use it for database modeling. It is good and useful tool.
+
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+A. Kaaber
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">201203292257.06302.alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>someone asked me to see about <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5146">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5146</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>it looks like it needed a rebuild, but the rebuild failed with automake errors
+</I>&gt;<i>of some kind...
+</I>
+And it is worse... as we also have bug 2761, which seems to be almost the 
+opposite use case of 5146.
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+&gt;<i> You have chosen thekeysize 512 thats the one is not supported under
+</I>&gt;<i> the FreeOTFE project...
+</I>&gt;<i> Isnt possible to change the keysize to a value that can be supported
+</I>&gt;<i> under Windows?
+</I>
+Yes. Test what works on your own system, then open a bug report asking
+for the change.  Just don't use cbc, as it's too insecure.
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+&gt;<i> Am 29.03.2012 22:23, schrieb Maarten Vanraes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op donderdag 29 maart 2012 21:08:22 schreef David Walser:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Guillaume Rousse&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at ...</A>&gt;  writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If I want to keep a proprietary JRE on my computers, because I trust it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more to run crap proprietary applications (also called
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> corporate-compliants), than marvelous free-licensed environment they
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have never been tested with, that is my choice, not yours.
+</I>&gt;<i> So you say that you really want to keep an outdated
+</I>&gt;<i> package with many security holes, which even the
+</I>&gt;<i> infamous Zeus bot is said to exploit?
+</I>I think I'm best placed than anyone else to evaluate the exact risk I'm 
+facing on the machines I'm running, because I know what they are used 
+for, how they are managed, and how they are protected exactly from 
+external threat such as Zeus. The decision of how to manage this problem 
+exactly belongs to me.
+
+&gt;<i> Sure, that's your choice and you're free to do this,
+</I>&gt;<i> but we can't keep our users susceptible to such
+</I>&gt;<i> problems.
+</I>You're not a system administrator, whose duty is to take this kind of 
+decision, you are a technical solution provider. You're clearly 
+confusing the roles here.
+
+Removing the sun java package from the distribution is perfectly fine 
+(and anyway, there is no real choice). Explaining it in release notes, 
+with alternative solutions suggestions also. But automatically removing 
+software for security concerns, without asking for user consent, would 
+be a first step into transfering decision power from user to operating 
+system vendor. Trusted computing approach, in other terms.
+-- 
+BOFH excuse #301:
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;<i> perhaps we can obsolete it with one of those nonfree getters? (if security
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bug)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or, maybe a package that gives an README.urpmi ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IMHO: i think obsoleting it is fine, but with a README.urpmi that says
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> notifies
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that it's been obsoleted.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes that seems the best solution to me
+</I>
+We can do like RH &amp; Ubuntu, provides an empty package that explain sun doesn't
+enable us anymore to distribute it and that they've to install (&amp; update) it
+manually from sun.com
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 30/03/2012 09:58, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 29 March 2012 22:59, Pascal Terjan&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> perhaps we can obsolete it with one of those nonfree getters? (if security
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bug)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> or, maybe a package that gives an README.urpmi ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> IMHO: i think obsoleting it is fine, but with a README.urpmi that says
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> notifies
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that it's been obsoleted.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes that seems the best solution to me
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We can do like RH&amp;  Ubuntu, provides an empty package that explain sun doesn't
+</I>&gt;<i> enable us anymore to distribute it and that they've to install (&amp;  update) it
+</I>&gt;<i> manually from sun.com
+</I>Why should we manage this case differently from other similar situations 
+? That's not the first time we remove something from the distribution, 
+because it is not supported anymore usually, and has known available 
+vulnerabilities.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> We can do like RH&amp; &#160;Ubuntu, provides an empty package that explain sun
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> doesn't enable us anymore to distribute it and that they've to install (&amp; &#160;update)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it manually from sun.com
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+</I>&gt;<i> Why should we manage this case differently from other similar situations ?
+</I>&gt;<i> That's not the first time we remove something from the distribution, because
+</I>&gt;<i> it is not supported anymore usually, and has known available
+</I>&gt;<i> vulnerabilities.
+</I>
+Actually, _YOU_ want us to &quot;manage this case differently from other similar
+situations&quot;.
+In case you didn't see, other packages are obsoleted by task-obsolete (if
+no better package)
+
+In this case, we even have strong decisions to do so:
+1) users don't report bugs in our bugzilla
+2) users get aware it's no longer supported by us
+3) users get aware they won't get any security update anymore
+4) users get aware they have to look at sun.com for updates
+5) ...
+
+So please don't invent special exceptions to our policies for
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+</I>&gt;<i> unfortunately, atm it doesn't work, so it needs to be rebuilt, but it doesn't 
+</I>&gt;<i> rebuild at all... and since we're in version freeze, you can't just update to 
+</I>&gt;<i> a new version. even more is that soon is release freeze...
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+    <B>Damien Lallement</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 29/03/2012 11:46, Damien Lallement a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 28/03/2012 13:22, Damien Lallement a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can you please push pidgin-sipe.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The new version (1.13.0) is a bug fix version:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - add TLS-DSK authentification scheme (mandatory for Office365)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - add non-public Lync support
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - fix build vith latest glib2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - refactored crypto code
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - remove kopete backend (telepathy now)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://sourceforge.net/projects/sipe/files/sipe/pidgin-sipe-1.13.0/">http://sourceforge.net/projects/sipe/files/sipe/pidgin-sipe-1.13.0/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ping ?
+</I>
+ping ?
+-- 
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+&gt;<i> On 30 March 2012 10:06, Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; We can do like RH&amp; &#160;Ubuntu, provides an empty package that explain sun
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; doesn't enable us anymore to distribute it and that they've to install (&amp; &#160;update)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; it manually from sun.com
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Why should we manage this case differently from other similar situations ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That's not the first time we remove something from the distribution, because
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it is not supported anymore usually, and has known available
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; vulnerabilities.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually, _YOU_ want us to &quot;manage this case differently from other similar
+</I>&gt;<i> situations&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> In case you didn't see, other packages are obsoleted by task-obsolete (if
+</I>&gt;<i> no better package)
+</I>
+So I think we should obsolete sun-java in task-obsolete, and add it to
+release notes. Then people who want to remove unsupported packages can
+install task-obsolete.
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+&gt;<i> On 29 March 2012 22:59, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> perhaps we can obsolete it with one of those nonfree getters? (if security
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bug)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> or, maybe a package that gives an README.urpmi ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> IMHO: i think obsoleting it is fine, but with a README.urpmi that says
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> notifies
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that it's been obsoleted.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes that seems the best solution to me
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We can do like RH &amp; Ubuntu, provides an empty package that explain sun doesn't
+</I>&gt;<i> enable us anymore to distribute it and that they've to install (&amp; update) it
+</I>&gt;<i> manually from sun.com
+</I>
+That's what others and I suggested in the bug report.
+
+We are not sysadmins of user's systems. But that's only the academical
+point of view. Reality is that the main target of Mageia is the
+average user who will likely not read technical papers or security
+alert and will probably not know about the security issue at all. Even
+if he reads something about it in a newspaper he will usually trust
+Mageia's repos, more so since we keep telling the users that we do QA
+for all software in the &quot;official&quot; repos.
+
+Telling that all over the place implies a responsibility which we can
+not simply put away with by telling that we are not sysadmins of the
+user's systems. Supplying a software in our repos does not allow us in
+cases like this one to simply point at the user and tell him that it
+is his own fault if he installs the software. We can do that if he
+installs software from a 3rd party source but not from our own repos.
+
+So, just removing the package and leaving the users who already
+installed it out in the rain is wrong and could even mean bad
+reputation. That's why I strongly suggest to think beyond the rim of a
+developer's bowl.
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 30 March 2012 10:06, Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; We can do like RH&amp; &#160;Ubuntu, provides an empty package that explain sun
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; doesn't enable us anymore to distribute it and that they've to install (&amp; &#160;update)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; it manually from sun.com
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Why should we manage this case differently from other similar situations ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; That's not the first time we remove something from the distribution, because
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; it is not supported anymore usually, and has known available
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; vulnerabilities.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Actually, _YOU_ want us to &quot;manage this case differently from other similar
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> situations&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In case you didn't see, other packages are obsoleted by task-obsolete (if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> no better package)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I think we should obsolete sun-java in task-obsolete, and add it to
+</I>&gt;<i> release notes. Then people who want to remove unsupported packages can
+</I>&gt;<i> install task-obsolete.
+</I>
+Do all average users know about task-obsolete (I did not, never needed
+it) ? You can't use what you don't know about and what has not been
+documented in userland. Except you want to narrow down the target
+group for Mageia to people with technical knowledge and interest.
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+&gt;<i> On 16 March 2012 03:36, Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've seen some mga1-&gt;mga2 upgrade issues with php-pear packages:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> file /usr/share/pear/PHPUnit/Extensions/Database/Operation/Exception.php
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from install of php-pear-DbUnit-1.1.2-1.mga2.noarch conflicts with file
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from package php-pear-PHPUnit-3.3.17-3.mga1.noarch
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> file /usr/share/pear/PHPUnit/Extensions/SeleniumTestCase/append.php from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> install of php-pear-PHPUnit_Selenium-1.2.3-1.mga2.noarch conflicts with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> file from package php-pear-PHPUnit-3.3.17-3.mga1.noarch
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It looks like php-pear-PHPUnit_Selenium and php-pear-DbUnit were
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> probably splitted from php-pear-PHPUnit and so need
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Conflicts: php-pear-PHPUnit &lt; 3.5&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Similar issues seem to exist (without closer look) in other pkgs like at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> least php-pear-File* and php-pear-PHPUnit_Story.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Attached is the output of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ./check-distro-files-conflicts /mirror/mageia/1/x86_64 \
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;/mirror/mageia/cauldron/x86_64 | grep php-pear | grep mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (check-distro-files-conflicts is the old Pixel's script at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svn.mandriva.com/viewvc/soft/build_system/distrib/cleaning/check-distro-files-conflicts">http://svn.mandriva.com/viewvc/soft/build_system/distrib/cleaning/check-distro-files-conflicts</A>)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You should open a BR instead of sending a mail...
+</I>
+Just did it
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5161">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5161</A>
+
+Please somebody have a look before RC
+
+-- 
+Anne
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Actually, _YOU_ want us to &quot;manage this case differently from other similar
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> situations&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In case you didn't see, other packages are obsoleted by task-obsolete (if
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> no better package)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So I think we should obsolete sun-java in task-obsolete, and add it to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release notes. Then people who want to remove unsupported packages can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> install task-obsolete.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do all average users know about task-obsolete (I did not, never needed
+</I>&gt;<i> it) ? You can't use what you don't know about and what has not been
+</I>&gt;<i> documented in userland. Except you want to narrow down the target
+</I>&gt;<i> group for Mageia to people with technical knowledge and interest.
+</I>
+Actually, if it's obsoleted by task-obsolete, task-obsolete will be
+automatically installed.
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+<PRE>On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
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+&gt;<i> 2012/3/30 nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On 30 March 2012 10:06, Guillaume Rousse &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; We can do like RH&amp; &#160;Ubuntu, provides an empty package that explain sun
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; doesn't enable us anymore to distribute it and that they've to install (&amp; &#160;update)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;&gt; it manually from sun.com
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; Why should we manage this case differently from other similar situations ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; That's not the first time we remove something from the distribution, because
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; it is not supported anymore usually, and has known available
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; vulnerabilities.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Actually, _YOU_ want us to &quot;manage this case differently from other similar
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; situations&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; In case you didn't see, other packages are obsoleted by task-obsolete (if
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; no better package)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So I think we should obsolete sun-java in task-obsolete, and add it to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; release notes. Then people who want to remove unsupported packages can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; install task-obsolete.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Do all average users know about task-obsolete (I did not, never needed
+</I>&gt;<i> it) ? You can't use what you don't know about and what has not been
+</I>&gt;<i> documented in userland. Except you want to narrow down the target
+</I>&gt;<i> group for Mageia to people with technical knowledge and interest.
+</I>
+It can be added to the release notes.
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 30 March 2012 10:40, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Actually, _YOU_ want us to &quot;manage this case differently from other similar
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> situations&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In case you didn't see, other packages are obsoleted by task-obsolete (if
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> no better package)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So I think we should obsolete sun-java in task-obsolete, and add it to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> release notes. Then people who want to remove unsupported packages can
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> install task-obsolete.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do all average users know about task-obsolete (I did not, never needed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it) ? You can't use what you don't know about and what has not been
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> documented in userland. Except you want to narrow down the target
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> group for Mageia to people with technical knowledge and interest.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually, if it's obsoleted by task-obsolete, task-obsolete will be
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically installed.
+</I>&gt;<i> Providing it's on the media (eg: in the DVD case)
+</I>
+It isn't at the moment. Where should we add it ? rpmsrate ?
+
+-- 
+Anne
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Actually, _YOU_ want us to &quot;manage this case differently from other similar
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> situations&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In case you didn't see, other packages are obsoleted by task-obsolete (if
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> no better package)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So I think we should obsolete sun-java in task-obsolete, and add it to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> release notes. Then people who want to remove unsupported packages can
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> install task-obsolete.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Do all average users know about task-obsolete (I did not, never needed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it) ? You can't use what you don't know about and what has not been
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> documented in userland. Except you want to narrow down the target
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> group for Mageia to people with technical knowledge and interest.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Actually, if it's obsoleted by task-obsolete, task-obsolete will be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> automatically installed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Providing it's on the media (eg: in the DVD case)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It isn't at the moment. Where should we add it ? rpmsrate ?
+</I>
+yes in the INSTALL section
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+&gt;<i> On 30 March 2012 10:40, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Actually, _YOU_ want us to &quot;manage this case differently from other similar
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> situations&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In case you didn't see, other packages are obsoleted by task-obsolete (if
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> no better package)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So I think we should obsolete sun-java in task-obsolete, and add it to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> release notes. Then people who want to remove unsupported packages can
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> install task-obsolete.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do all average users know about task-obsolete (I did not, never needed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it) ? You can't use what you don't know about and what has not been
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> documented in userland. Except you want to narrow down the target
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> group for Mageia to people with technical knowledge and interest.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually, if it's obsoleted by task-obsolete, task-obsolete will be
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically installed.
+</I>&gt;<i> Providing it's on the media (eg: in the DVD case)
+</I>
+Ok, thx for the explanation.
+
+But thinking further task-obsolete will not be needed in this case:
+
+People who install a new system can not install it because it is removed anyway.
+People who update will get an update of java-sun-plugin telling them
+about the removal of the package and the reason
+
+Or do I misunderstand?
+
+-- 
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+<PRE>Le 30/03/2012 10:10, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 30 March 2012 10:06, Guillaume Rousse&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We can do like RH&amp;    Ubuntu, provides an empty package that explain sun
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> doesn't enable us anymore to distribute it and that they've to install (&amp;    update)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it manually from sun.com
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why should we manage this case differently from other similar situations ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's not the first time we remove something from the distribution, because
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it is not supported anymore usually, and has known available
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> vulnerabilities.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually, _YOU_ want us to &quot;manage this case differently from other similar
+</I>&gt;<i> situations&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> In case you didn't see, other packages are obsoleted by task-obsolete (if
+</I>&gt;<i> no better package)
+</I>Using task-obsolete is fine:
+- its purpose is crystal-clear
+- if I don't want it, I don't install it
+
+Adding an obsolete tag in openjdk to remove sun jdk now, for security 
+concernes, whereas we had suffered a useless mess of at least four 
+available java environnement at once for years uselessly (excepted for 
+blindly applying jpackage project practices), doesn't seems quite similar.
+
+&gt;<i> In this case, we even have strong decisions to do so:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) users don't report bugs in our bugzilla
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) users get aware it's no longer supported by us
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) users get aware they won't get any security update anymore
+</I>&gt;<i> 4) users get aware they have to look at sun.com for updates
+</I>&gt;<i> 5) ...
+</I>'user get aware' is a perfectly fine objective. 'users get managed 
+automatically' is not.
+
+&gt;<i> So please don't invent special exceptions to our policies for
+</I>&gt;<i> your own comfort.
+</I>Get me a simple example of a similar situation, when a package A, after 
+peacefully coexisting with package B for years, suddenly obsoleted it as 
+B was removed from the distribution, for any kind of reason.
+
+And that's not really my own confort, as I don't have any java usage 
+anymore. I really don't care about this specific package, I care about 
+the limit between end user and packager for this kind of decision. If 
+the global consensus here is toward enforcing operating system vendor 
+choices, I'd rather not volonteer for for a role in the project...
+
+-- 
+BOFH excuse #337:
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+<PRE>Le mardi 27 mars 2012 21:10:04, Florian Hubold a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> So if noone volunteers and ensures to keep it updated for stable distros,
+</I>&gt;<i> i'm gonna drop it from cauldron next week, before it's too late.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+What about adding it to task-obsolete and then if no maintainer is found for 
+Mageia 3 drop it completely?
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Guillaume Rousse at 30/03/12 10:17 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Using task-obsolete is fine:
+</I>&gt;<i> - its purpose is crystal-clear
+</I>&gt;<i> - if I don't want it, I don't install it
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Adding an obsolete tag in openjdk to remove sun jdk now, for security
+</I>&gt;<i> concernes, whereas we had suffered a useless mess of at least four
+</I>&gt;<i> available java environnement at once for years uselessly (excepted for
+</I>&gt;<i> blindly applying jpackage project practices), doesn't seems quite similar.
+</I>
+Well think of it this way (assuming I have the facts vaguely straight):
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+Forget about Cauldron and mga2
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+We're providing a known insecure version to mga1 users.
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+We need to find a way to update mga1 somehow right? Or do we want to
+just abandon them?
+
+Assuming we do not want to abandon them, what do we do? I'd suggest
+shipping a new empty package that replaces it with a README.urpmi
+telling them to go to Sun directly is the most responsible thing for us
+to do. If they do not have a JRE installed, and they have packages that
+require one, then they should be prompted to install e.g. openjdk to
+satisfy package deps. That should work OK right?
+
+
+Otherwise we're basically washing our hands of our users' security. This
+isn't hand holding or taking away choice. It's about informing them and
+being a socially responsible distributor.
+
+I don't why this is even a problem point for discussion.
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+Whatever is decided, the position on mga1 then just then flows through
+into mga2.
+
+Col
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Remco Rijnders at 30/03/12 03:13 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> libcanberra eandry
+</I>
+When it's released, I'll take this one (thought it was mine already TBH :D)
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+&gt;<i> obexd eandry
+</I>
+I'll take this one too.
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+Maybe some others but these ones for sure.
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+Col
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+    <B>Jerome Quelin</B> 
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+<PRE>On 12/03/30 08:29 +0200, D.Morgan wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; Can't it be put into the tainted/PLF sort of repository?
+</I>&gt;<i> tainted is not for nonfree packages and sun doesn't allow to
+</I>&gt;<i> redistribute it anymore
+</I>
+can a get-sunjdk package be created that actually downloads it, same as
+what is done for get-skype?
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+    <B>D.Morgan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 12/03/30 08:29 +0200, D.Morgan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Can't it be put into the tainted/PLF sort of repository?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tainted is not for nonfree packages and sun doesn't allow to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> redistribute it anymore
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> can a get-sunjdk package be created that actually downloads it, same as
+</I>&gt;<i> what is done for get-skype?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> j&#233;r&#244;me
+</I>
+is sun java of any use ?
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+btw sun java is provided upstream as a rpm that need user &quot;input&quot; to
+validate the licence so i don't think we can do something.
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+    <B>Christian Lohmaier</B> 
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+On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:52 AM, Guillaume Rousse
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> You're not a system administrator, whose duty is to take this kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> decision, you are a technical solution provider. You're clearly confusing
+</I>&gt;<i> the roles here.
+</I>
+I don't get your problem really. Of course Mageia will only replace
+the mageia packaged version of Sun's java, not a version you obtained
+from Oracle.
+
+So while the user who has a security-flawed version of mageia's
+sun-java installed will have it scheduled for an update and replaced
+by OpenJDK, that user
+a) is not forced to do the update
+b) can just install a fixed version of Java from Oracle instead
+c) update and not care that much (&gt;90% of the user base)
+
+&gt;<i> But automatically removing software
+</I>&gt;<i> for security concerns, without asking for user consent,
+</I>
+You are asked for confirmation when installing updates - you get
+notification that there are updates, and then have the choice to
+accept them or decline them.
+
+And there is a possiblilty to flag packages as &quot;don't update those&quot;
+via configuration files.
+
+&gt;<i> would be a first
+</I>&gt;<i> step into transfering decision power from user to operating system vendor.
+</I>&gt;<i> Trusted computing approach, in other terms.
+</I>
+This is a weak argument really, as there were always security updates.
+Those as well were telling the user to update, and not wait until
+$system-admin decided it is time to check for vulnerabilities.
+There have been obsolete packages in the past as well, replacing
+unmaintained/outdated packages by better (for most) alternatives.
+
+This time it is just both at the same time.
+
+So if you want your outdated mageia-version of java, just tell urpmi
+to not touch it.
+
+But don't argue that the rest of the userbase should continue running
+a flawed version just because you have a special need. Users have a
+choice to unselect updates. If they don't read the update's
+description, it is their fault, not mageias.
+Users have the choice to specify packages that must never be removed
+in configuration files
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+Christian
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+&gt;<i> is sun java of any use ?
+</I>
+in france, to declare our salaries before taxes are applied, the web app
+used to require a &quot;trusted&quot; version of java - that is, sun jdk. i don't
+know if openjdk works nowadays.
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+&gt;<i> btw sun java is provided upstream as a rpm that need user &quot;input&quot; to
+</I>&gt;<i> validate the licence so i don't think we can do something.
+</I>
+the advantage of having it in the dist is that a maintainer is following
+the version and updates them. user doesn't have to check a website for
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+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;David, can you please look at this again, it will not upgrade the way it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;is (downgrade)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas, it is my understanding that this is how it should work? That is,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> downgrades should not be handled automatically in Cauldron. In the stable
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release, you'd increase the epoch. In Cauldron, everyone affected has to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> handle this manually as there we don't want to increase the epoch (which
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would eventually trickle down into stable, and we want to avoid using an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> epoch unless absolutely necessary).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just one of the downsides of running the development version on your
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> machine as I understand it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Remmy
+</I>
+Yes, sorry if that wasn't clear.  You need to install the libmbfl1-1.1.0-6.mga2 manually.
+
+&gt;<i> It fixed the libmbfl problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> I still get this warning. Google only shows it for php-5.4 RC
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> # pear list-upgrades
+</I>&gt;<i> PHP Warning:  can't find symbol in Unknown on line 0
+</I>
+Do we know where that is coming from?
+
+Also, Thomas, I just saw in the changelog of the php update Oden just made in Cooker a message 
+about patching it to use system libzip (from fedora).  Since libzip currently has a security 
+vulnerability, can you add this patch if we don't already have it?
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+&gt;<i> But don't argue that the rest of the userbase should continue running
+</I>&gt;<i> a flawed version just because you have a special need. Users have a
+</I>&gt;<i> choice to unselect updates. If they don't read the update's
+</I>&gt;<i> description, it is their fault, not mageias.
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+I interpreted Guillaume's approach as about the impact that can have Mageia's decisions in a system and the respect of the user and his system as a priority, but it was finally interpreted as he wants something for his personal use or he does nt care about a security issue, for the same reason.  At least, is what i got.
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+    <B>Christian Lohmaier</B> 
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+On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> I interpreted Guillaume's approach as about the impact that can have Mageia's decisions in a
+</I>&gt;<i> system and the respect of the user and his system as a priority, but it was finally interpreted
+</I>&gt;<i> as he wants something for his personal use or he does nt care about a security issue, for the
+</I>&gt;<i> same reason. &#160;At least, is what i got.
+</I>
+Well - that is what he said:
+&quot;Don't push security updates to users by replacing package A by package B.&quot;
+Or: &quot;I don't care that other people will continue using software with
+security flaws, since I know what I am doing.&quot;
+
+And I strongly oppose to this attitude/point of view. Not limited to
+Java, but in general. When a package *cannot* be updated and thus
+there will never be a security fix (and not just a delay of a couple
+of days/weeks), then the only sane thing for a distro is to replace
+the package by something equivalent. In the case of Java it is just so
+much easier, as there already exists a package that virtually does the
+very same thing.
+
+He wants to keep java for a special need, so that &quot;I don't want this
+package A to be removed&quot; is his own personal use. I'm sure that &gt;98%
+of the users will not be amused when you tell them after a year or two
+that they have been running a version of java that has a big security
+flaw for all that time, just because one didn't want to obsolete the
+package.
+
+Of course &quot;obsoletes&quot; shall not be taken lightly. But i the case for
+Java, the rationale that oracle gives for no longer having the
+distributor's license is that OpenJDK and Oracle's java are now very
+close, that they are no longer separate things, but that Oracle's Java
+just builds on top of OpenJDK.
+
+For people just in need for &quot;java&quot; there will hardly be any
+difference. People with a special need for specific versions of java
+can still download and install java from Oracle's site.
+
+It is not a case where installing OpenJDK would make using Oracle's
+java impossible/that you have to install OpenJDK in the first place.
+
+ciao
+Christian
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+&gt;<i> Hi Dimitrios, *,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Dimitrios Glentadakis&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I interpreted Guillaume's approach as about the impact that can have Mageia's decisions in a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> system and the respect of the user and his system as a priority, but it was finally interpreted
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as he wants something for his personal use or he does nt care about a security issue, for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> same reason.  At least, is what i got.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well - that is what he said:
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Don't push security updates to users by replacing package A by package B.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> Or: &quot;I don't care that other people will continue using software with
+</I>&gt;<i> security flaws, since I know what I am doing.&quot;
+</I>That is pure over-interpretation of my argumentation. I could be as well 
+irrespective of your point of view by replying &quot;you lie&quot;.
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+    <B>Christian Lohmaier</B> 
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+On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Guillaume Rousse
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 30/03/2012 15:04, Christian Lohmaier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Dimitrios Glentadakis&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well - that is what he said:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Don't push security updates to users by replacing package A by package
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> B.&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Or: &quot;I don't care that other people will continue using software with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> security flaws, since I know what I am doing.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That is pure over-interpretation of my argumentation. I could be as well
+</I>&gt;<i> irrespective of your point of view by replying &quot;you lie&quot;.
+</I>
+I think that paraphrasing matched what you were writing prettly closely.
+
+But let's use a few quotes then:
+&quot;[...] don't treat uses as blatant idiots.
+If I want to keep a proprietary JRE [...] that is my choice, not yours.&quot;
+
+&quot;I think I'm best placed than anyone else to evaluate the exact risk
+I'm facing on the machines I'm running [...]. The decision [...]
+belongs to me. You [Mageia] are not a system administrator [...], you
+are a technical solution provider. You're clearly confusing the roles
+here.&quot;
+
+If that is not reading: Don't push the security updates to the users,
+let the user take care of that manually, then what else?
+
+Sure, call me lying, but then I call you schizophrenic.
+
+ciao
+Christian
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+&gt;<i> On Thursday, March 29, 2012 08:05:00 PM Remco Rijnders wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 07:50:10PM -0700, Thomas wrote in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">201203291950.10882.thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 04:28:42 PM David Walser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We need to revert this ASAP or find a way to fix PHP to be compatible
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and find out which other packages may be broken as a result.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> OK, I synced it with the version in Mageia 1 updates, so this is ready
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to go.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I need a sysadmin to push it because of downgrading the version.  Now it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> will be: libmbfl-1.1.0-6.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> David, can you please look at this again, it will not upgrade the way it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is (downgrade)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas, it is my understanding that this is how it should work? That is,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> downgrades should not be handled automatically in Cauldron. In the stable
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release, you'd increase the epoch. In Cauldron, everyone affected has to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> handle this manually as there we don't want to increase the epoch (which
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would eventually trickle down into stable, and we want to avoid using an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> epoch unless absolutely necessary).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just one of the downsides of running the development version on your
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> machine as I understand it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Remmy
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It fixed the libmbfl problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> I still get this warning. Google only shows it for php-5.4 RC
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> # pear list-upgrades
+</I>&gt;<i> PHP Warning:  can't find symbol in Unknown on line 0
+</I>
+I can't reproduce here after installing the correct lib[64]mbfl and
+nuking the new one.
+
+Col
+
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Guillaume Rousse at 30/03/12 10:17 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Using task-obsolete is fine:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - its purpose is crystal-clear
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - if I don't want it, I don't install it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Adding an obsolete tag in openjdk to remove sun jdk now, for security
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; concernes, whereas we had suffered a useless mess of at least four
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; available java environnement at once for years uselessly (excepted for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; blindly applying jpackage project practices), doesn't seems quite similar.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Well think of it this way (assuming I have the facts vaguely straight):
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Forget about Cauldron and mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> We're providing a known insecure version to mga1 users.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> We need to find a way to update mga1 somehow right? Or do we want to
+</I>&gt;<i> just abandon them?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Assuming we do not want to abandon them, what do we do? I'd suggest
+</I>&gt;<i> shipping a new empty package that replaces it with a README.urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> telling them to go to Sun directly is the most responsible thing for us
+</I>&gt;<i> to do. If they do not have a JRE installed, and they have packages that
+</I>&gt;<i> require one, then they should be prompted to install e.g. openjdk to
+</I>&gt;<i> satisfy package deps. That should work OK right?
+</I>
+I think an empty package is not a good idea, it would be better to
+obsolete it in task-obsolete :
+ - it's more clear that the package is obsoleted and is not a regular
+   update. Users installing an empty package as update would only see that
+   it is removed but not updated when it's already removed.
+ - package is really removed and no longer listed as installed in rpm
+   database
+ - it's easy to add task-obsolete in urpmi skip.list for people who
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+<PRE>Le 30/03/2012 15:25, Christian Lohmaier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> If that is not reading: Don't push the security updates to the users,
+</I>&gt;<i> let the user take care of that manually, then what else?
+</I>That just means 'give the end user everything he needs to take a 
+decision (advice, notification, packages, popup, whatever) but let him 
+take this decision about this specific issue himself'.
+
+Let's try to move toward a consensus...
+
+Mixing removing of sun jdk with updating another jdk for security seems 
+an unfair bundle, as you can't have one without another.
+
+Issuing a specific sun jdk security update package, containing only a 
+README.urpmi file and a shell script inciting the user to read this file 
+eventually, would be a fair compromise for me. And can be considered as 
+a standard practice for semi-automatically removing 
+very-dangerous-packages-we-cannot-afford-to-let-installed-anywhere-otherwise-the-apocalypse-will-happen.
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+-- 
+BOFH excuse #8:
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Assuming we do not want to abandon them, what do we do? I'd suggest
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> shipping a new empty package that replaces it with a README.urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> telling them to go to Sun directly is the most responsible thing for us
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to do. If they do not have a JRE installed, and they have packages that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> require one, then they should be prompted to install e.g. openjdk to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> satisfy package deps. That should work OK right?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think an empty package is not a good idea, it would be better to
+</I>&gt;<i> obsolete it in task-obsolete :
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- it's more clear that the package is obsoleted and is not a regular
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; update. Users installing an empty package as update would only see that
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; it is removed but not updated when it's already removed.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- package is really removed and no longer listed as installed in rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; database
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- it's easy to add task-obsolete in urpmi skip.list for people who
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; don't want unmaintained packages to be automatically removed
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+In that case, I don't think so.
+We can thus popup a README.urpmi explaining what happened.
+Also user can find out this when running rpm -ql java-sun-foobar
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+<PRE>On Friday, March 30, 2012 06:37:09 AM Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 30/03/12 04:35 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thursday, March 29, 2012 08:05:00 PM Remco Rijnders wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 07:50:10PM -0700, Thomas wrote in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">201203291950.10882.thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On Wednesday, March 28, 2012 04:28:42 PM David Walser wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; We need to revert this ASAP or find a way to fix PHP to be compatible
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and find out which other packages may be broken as a result.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; OK, I synced it with the version in Mageia 1 updates, so this is ready
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; to go.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I need a sysadmin to push it because of downgrading the version.  Now
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; it will be: libmbfl-1.1.0-6.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; David, can you please look at this again, it will not upgrade the way
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; it is (downgrade)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thomas, it is my understanding that this is how it should work? That is,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; downgrades should not be handled automatically in Cauldron. In the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; stable release, you'd increase the epoch. In Cauldron, everyone
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; affected has to handle this manually as there we don't want to increase
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the epoch (which would eventually trickle down into stable, and we want
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to avoid using an epoch unless absolutely necessary).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Just one of the downsides of running the development version on your
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; machine as I understand it.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Remmy
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It fixed the libmbfl problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I still get this warning. Google only shows it for php-5.4 RC
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; # pear list-upgrades
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; PHP Warning:  can't find symbol in Unknown on line 0
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I can't reproduce here after installing the correct lib[64]mbfl and
+</I>&gt;<i> nuking the new one.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>Maybe there is some tray file around. can some else test it too?
+as root do pear list-upgrades
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+at one time mf2pt1 was removed from texlive, It was there somewhere in mga1
+As a result, mscore does not build anymore
+adding the basic package texlive-mf2pts fixes it. I have it ready
+What I think would be preferable is to add it to texlive
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+    <B>philippe makowski</B> 
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+<PRE>On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Remco Rijnders wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 09:52:04PM +0200, Emmanuel wrote in 
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">1333050724.11900.5.camel at manux-home</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi everyone,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I hoped having time to work on my packages on mageia, but because of my
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> spare time going shorter, I can't.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please feel free to maintain my packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks, and sorry for the delay of my feedback.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi Emmanuel,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry to see you 'go', but thanks for letting us know and not disappearing 
+</I>&gt;<i> quietly and leaving us and your packages hanging in limbo. Hopefully your 
+</I>&gt;<i> lack of spare time is not caused by anything bad, and perhaps in the future 
+</I>&gt;<i> when this changes, you'll consider working on Mageia again. Thanks also for 
+</I>&gt;<i> the work you've done on these packages till now.
+</I>
+obexd and libcanberra are now assigned to colin, python-yaml to
+philippem.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 30/03/12 15:04 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Friday, March 30, 2012 06:37:09 AM Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 30/03/12 04:35 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> # pear list-upgrades
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> PHP Warning:  can't find symbol in Unknown on line 0
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can't reproduce here after installing the correct lib[64]mbfl and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> nuking the new one.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe there is some tray file around. can some else test it too?
+</I>&gt;<i> as root do pear list-upgrades
+</I>
+And if it fails for you, what is the output of:
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+rpm -qa | grep mbfl
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+If you see a 1.2 version of the lib there, you must downgrade manually -
+usual cauldron rules!
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+Col
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; unfortunately, atm it doesn't work, so it needs to be rebuilt, but it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; doesn't rebuild at all... and since we're in version freeze, you can't
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; just update to a new version. even more is that soon is release
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; freeze...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> No, fixing a package that doesn't work can be a good reason for version
+</I>&gt;<i> freeze exception. So if a new version can help fix the problem, it
+</I>&gt;<i> should be considered.
+</I>
+ic, well in that case, i guess it can be done like this, but if there's no 
+maintainer for it... personally, i have no problem with this being dropped.
+
+which is not to say i'm trying to hurt people who use it... but if we can't 
+maintain a package, maybe it's better if the people who want to use it, can 
+get it from upstream themselves.
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+and since this is from oracle, i guess the maintainer should also doublecheck 
+licensing to be on the safe side, since oracle has relicensed quite some code. 
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 30 maart 2012 16:00:22 schreef nicolas vigier:
+[...]
+&gt;<i> I think an empty package is not a good idea, it would be better to
+</I>&gt;<i> obsolete it in task-obsolete :
+</I>&gt;<i>  - it's more clear that the package is obsoleted and is not a regular
+</I>&gt;<i>    update. Users installing an empty package as update would only see that
+</I>&gt;<i>    it is removed but not updated when it's already removed.
+</I>&gt;<i>  - package is really removed and no longer listed as installed in rpm
+</I>&gt;<i>    database
+</I>&gt;<i>  - it's easy to add task-obsolete in urpmi skip.list for people who
+</I>&gt;<i>    don't want unmaintained packages to be automatically removed
+</I>
+wrt to task-obsolete, do the users get notified?
+
+maybe a README.urpmi listing all the packages and reasons would be an option 
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+[...]
+&gt;<i> Issuing a specific sun jdk security update package, containing only a
+</I>&gt;<i> README.urpmi file and a shell script inciting the user to read this file
+</I>&gt;<i> eventually, would be a fair compromise for me. And can be considered as
+</I>&gt;<i> a standard practice for semi-automatically removing
+</I>&gt;<i> very-dangerous-packages-we-cannot-afford-to-let-installed-anywhere-otherwis
+</I>&gt;<i> e-the-apocalypse-will-happen.
+</I>
+if at all possible, i'd like a similar solution, but with task-obsolete 
+somehow, since it ties in nicely with all the related stuff (iiuc above)
+
+but i think it is nice to have such a notification with such kind of 
+packages...
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">201203301733.31821.alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>Op vrijdag 30 maart 2012 10:11:34 schreef nicolas vigier:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; unfortunately, atm it doesn't work, so it needs to be rebuilt, but it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; doesn't rebuild at all... and since we're in version freeze, you can't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; just update to a new version. even more is that soon is release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; freeze...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No, fixing a package that doesn't work can be a good reason for version
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> freeze exception. So if a new version can help fix the problem, it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should be considered.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>ic, well in that case, i guess it can be done like this, but if there's no
+</I>&gt;<i>maintainer for it... personally, i have no problem with this being dropped.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>which is not to say i'm trying to hurt people who use it... but if we can't
+</I>&gt;<i>maintain a package, maybe it's better if the people who want to use it, can
+</I>&gt;<i>get it from upstream themselves.
+</I>
+Not arguing about this... but I think the attached patch fixes at least 
+(part) of the build problem (for the new maintainer to look into ;-)
+
+See also <A HREF="http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=63898">http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=63898</A>
+
+&gt;<i>and since this is from oracle, i guess the maintainer should also doublecheck
+</I>&gt;<i>licensing to be on the safe side, since oracle has relicensed quite some code.
+</I>&gt;<i>who knows, maybe we can't even redistribute it anymore...
+</I>
+I didn't check that... but I did notice that the tarball from upstream 
+(now at 5.2.38) has &quot;gpl&quot; in its name, so assume that's still safe...
+-------------- next part --------------
+--- wb.utils_Makefile.am	2012-03-30 17:25:18.219213799 +0200
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+             wb_dev_utils_grt.py table_utils_grt.py code_utils_grt.py
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+--- wb.doclib_Makefile.am	2012-03-30 17:26:19.209546254 +0200
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+   wb_doclib_grt.py
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+<PRE>Am 30.03.2012 17:39, schrieb Maarten Vanraes:
+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 30 maart 2012 16:00:22 schreef nicolas vigier:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think an empty package is not a good idea, it would be better to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> obsolete it in task-obsolete :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   - it's more clear that the package is obsoleted and is not a regular
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     update. Users installing an empty package as update would only see that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     it is removed but not updated when it's already removed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   - package is really removed and no longer listed as installed in rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     database
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   - it's easy to add task-obsolete in urpmi skip.list for people who
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     don't want unmaintained packages to be automatically removed
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> wrt to task-obsolete, do the users get notified?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe a README.urpmi listing all the packages and reasons would be an option
+</I>&gt;<i> to get notified?
+</I>And how do you decide, when to put which warning in it?
+If you leave a warnign in it for too long, the user will get notified 
+again and again and again on each update of task-obsolete.
+If you change the warnings every release of task-obsolte a user not 
+updating frequently will miss some.
+
+But in this case, why not replacing the java sun packages by an empty 
+package obsoleting the whole java sun stack &lt;= our last package and 
+showing the information via README.urpmi file and obsoleting that 
+package in say two months so it will be completely gone?
+
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+&gt;<i> On 30 March 2012 16:00, nicolas vigier&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Assuming we do not want to abandon them, what do we do? I'd suggest
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> shipping a new empty package that replaces it with a README.urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> telling them to go to Sun directly is the most responsible thing for us
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to do. If they do not have a JRE installed, and they have packages that
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> require one, then they should be prompted to install e.g. openjdk to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> satisfy package deps. That should work OK right?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think an empty package is not a good idea, it would be better to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> obsolete it in task-obsolete :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   - it's more clear that the package is obsoleted and is not a regular
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    update. Users installing an empty package as update would only see that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    it is removed but not updated when it's already removed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   - package is really removed and no longer listed as installed in rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    database
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   - it's easy to add task-obsolete in urpmi skip.list for people who
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    don't want unmaintained packages to be automatically removed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In that case, I don't think so.
+</I>&gt;<i> We can thus popup a README.urpmi explaining what happened.
+</I>&gt;<i> Also user can find out this when running rpm -ql java-sun-foobar
+</I>We can obsolete it in mga2 and create an empty package for mga 1, explaining what's 
+happening. So in mga2 we get rid of it and in mga1 people are warned that it's now removed 
+because of its security issues.
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+--
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+Julien &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">julien.moragny at laposte.net</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> Le Wed, 28 Mar 2012 18:38:46 +0200,
+</I>&gt;<i> Julien &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">julien.moragny at laposte.net</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; please push liferea 1.8.4 which fix a crash and some bugs related to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; performance and usability.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; regards
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Julien
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> ping ?
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+&gt;<i> On 12/03/30 13:19 +0200, D.Morgan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is sun java of any use ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> in france, to declare our salaries before taxes are applied, the web app
+</I>&gt;<i> used to require a &quot;trusted&quot; version of java - that is, sun jdk. i don't
+</I>&gt;<i> know if openjdk works nowadays.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>This is no more true for 3 years.... the overkill java applet to sign is 
+gone.
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+&gt;<i> It seems that if we don't have major changes, there should be no problem
+</I>&gt;<i> to have permission. So I think someone should ask for permission for
+</I>&gt;<i> firefox and thunderbird. Does anyone know where it should be asked ?
+</I>
+The page at <A HREF="http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html">http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html</A>
+describes the policy. The policy covers the case of compiling from pristine
+sources:
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+    If you compile Mozilla unmodified source code (including code and
+    config files in the installer) and do not charge for it, you do not
+    need additional permission from Mozilla to use the relevant Mozilla
+    Mark(s) for your compiled version.
+
+and the case of highly modified source:
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+    If you're...making significant functional changes, you may not
+    redistribute the fruits of your labor under any Mozilla trademark,
+    without Mozilla's prior written consent.
+
+and in a final section, also the case of making minor changes:
+
+    Again, any modification to the Mozilla product...will require our
+    permission if you want to use the Mozilla Marks.
+
+So, if we're applying any patches at all, we'll need to ask permission. 
+
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dan
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+We have a temporary problem with the servers that are hosted in
+Marseille. The switch on which our servers are connected is having some
+problem, so the servers are unavailable. We will maybe need to replace
+the switch with a new one.
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+ - bugzilla
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+ - identity
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+    <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B> 
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+Is anybody else seeing strange things with flash 11.2 ?
+In my nvidia boxes it looks like I'm always seeing avatars in pandora...
+Looks like red and blue channels are switched.
+
+Try this:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ntsc+color+bars">http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ntsc+color+bars</A>
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+look at the thumbnail, and then to the video (lookin close to the two rightmost
+bars...).
+
+It doesn't happen on intel graphics. My system is 64bit and nvidia.
+Still have to try on 32bit with older nvidia card (7600GT).
+
+Somebody else ?
+
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+    <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is anybody else seeing strange things with flash 11.2 ?
+</I>&gt;<i> In my nvidia boxes it looks like I'm always seeing avatars in pandora...
+</I>&gt;<i> Looks like red and blue channels are switched.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Try this:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ntsc+color+bars">http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ntsc+color+bars</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> look at the thumbnail, and then to the video (lookin close to the two rightmost
+</I>&gt;<i> bars...).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It doesn't happen on intel graphics. My system is 64bit and nvidia.
+</I>&gt;<i> Still have to try on 32bit with older nvidia card (7600GT).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Somebody else ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Googling a bit more and with some experiments, I found the problem.
+Channels are swapped if you use accelerated video rendering but
+software decoding. If both are soft, or both accelerated there is no
+problem.
+
+And, btw, to get hw video decoding I had to write a file in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg
+with
+
+EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1
+
+There are some more settings here
+
+<A HREF="http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer">http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer</A>
+
+and a fully commented file here
+
+<A HREF="http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/www-plugins/adobe-flash/files/mms.cfg">http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/www-plugins/adobe-flash/files/mms.cfg</A>
+
+I don't know how useful are the rest, but this one really enables HW in my
+nvidia card. Perhaps it should be a good idea to add it to the rpm, after
+downloading binaries. If it does not cause trouble in other chipsets.
+Will try on intel...
+
+-- 
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+    <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 30/03/12 15:04 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Friday, March 30, 2012 06:37:09 AM Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 'Twas brillig, and Thomas Spuhler at 30/03/12 04:35 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; # pear list-upgrades
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; PHP Warning:  can't find symbol in Unknown on line 0
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I can't reproduce here after installing the correct lib[64]mbfl and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; nuking the new one.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Maybe there is some tray file around. can some else test it too?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as root do pear list-upgrades
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And if it fails for you, what is the output of:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm -qa | grep mbfl
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If you see a 1.2 version of the lib there, you must downgrade manually -
+</I>&gt;<i> usual cauldron rules!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+ rpm -qa | grep mbfl
+lib64mbfl-devel-1.1.0-6.mga2
+lib64mbfl1-1.1.0-6.mga2
+
+
+-- 
+Best regards
+Thomas Spuhler
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+    <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B> 
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+&gt;<i> And, btw, to get hw video decoding I had to write a file in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg
+</I>&gt;<i> with
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+Thanks, this solved the problem for me
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+&gt;<i> &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; 31/03/2012 02:38:24 JA Magall&#243;n &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And, btw, to get hw video decoding I had to write a file in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks, this solved the problem for me
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+i had to reverse to disable hw acceleration because the embedded youtube videos in konqueror are invisible (in youtube it is ok)
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+    <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B> 
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+&gt;<i> &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; 31/03/2012 08:38:19 &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; 31/03/2012 02:38:24 JA Magall&#243;n &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And, btw, to get hw video decoding I had to write a file in /etc/adobe/mms.cfg
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks, this solved the problem for me
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i had to reverse to disable hw acceleration because the embedded youtube videos in konqueror are invisible (in youtube it is ok)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Yep, and flash also behaves muuuuch more unstable, I'm having hangs I
+has never seen before.
+
+Crappy flash...
+
+BTW, how can I check if html5 has hardware support ?
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+&gt;<i> On 03/31/2012 08:43 AM, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; 31/03/2012 08:38:19 &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; 31/03/2012 02:38:24 JA Magall&#243;n &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; And, btw, to get hw video decoding I had to write a file in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; /etc/adobe/mms.cfg with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; EnableLinuxHWVideoDecode=1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Thanks, this solved the problem for me
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i had to reverse to disable hw acceleration because the embedded youtube
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; videos in konqueror are invisible (in youtube it is ok)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep, and flash also behaves muuuuch more unstable, I'm having hangs I
+</I>&gt;<i> has never seen before.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Crappy flash...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW, how can I check if html5 has hardware support ?
+</I>
+depending on the browser, but i think most browsers use native stuff, therefor 
+if you have hw support, it's likely to be working in html5 as well
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+    <B>Luc Menut</B> 
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+&gt;<i> I'm not sure if this is worth a bug report, but the incremental KDE
+</I>&gt;<i> upgrades in cauldron have a bad habit of regressing changes to
+</I>&gt;<i> configurations and preferences. With every major upgrade, the fact that
+</I>&gt;<i> I've disabled the screensaver gets forgotten. Sound volume keeps
+</I>&gt;<i> resetting to 1%. Changes I've made to konsole settings to patch the yet
+</I>&gt;<i> unfixed bug that sets vertical terminal dimensions to the screen maximum
+</I>&gt;<i> get undone.
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+Did you make these changes in ~/.kde4/share/config or in 
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+&gt;<i> BTW, how can I check if html5 has hardware support ?
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+I have an HP J5780 All-in-One device - and use the HP Device Manager
+software under Mageia -  When I scan a document into a PDF, the
+converted document is rather large (5MB) in comparison to the same
+document scanned under Windows 7 and the HP scan-to-PDF feature (465Kb)
+-  Just wanted to know why is this and can I influence how compressed or
+compact the PDF document is under Cauldron?
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+I used to scan with &quot;Acquire Images&quot; or XSane and then paste the scanned
+graphic into a LibreOffice document and then create a PDF directly or
+use ps2pdf14 to convert a &quot;print to file&quot; postscript output to PDF
+(which results in a comparatively small PDF)
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+Any advice would be welcome . . 
+
+Cheers,
+R.Fox
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+&gt;<i> Just a quick question to the experts out there . . .
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+This would probably be better on -discuss than -dev
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+&gt;<i> I have an HP J5780 All-in-One device - and use the HP Device Manager
+</I>&gt;<i> software under Mageia -  When I scan a document into a PDF, the
+</I>&gt;<i> converted document is rather large (5MB) in comparison to the same
+</I>&gt;<i> document scanned under Windows 7 and the HP scan-to-PDF feature (465Kb)
+</I>&gt;<i> -  Just wanted to know why is this and can I influence how compressed or
+</I>&gt;<i> compact the PDF document is under Cauldron?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Do you scan at the same resolution?
+The best compression would be to use OCR to get text instead of images but
+I wouldn't trust it to be accurate
+
+I used to scan with &quot;Acquire Images&quot; or XSane and then paste the scanned
+&gt;<i> graphic into a LibreOffice document and then create a PDF directly or
+</I>&gt;<i> use ps2pdf14 to convert a &quot;print to file&quot; postscript output to PDF
+</I>&gt;<i> (which results in a comparatively small PDF)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Why not generating a PDF directly from XSane?
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+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 10:59, Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>         Just a quick question to the experts out there . . .
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This would probably be better on -discuss than -dev
+</I>&gt;<i>  
+</I>&gt;<i>         I have an HP J5780 All-in-One device - and use the HP Device
+</I>&gt;<i>         Manager
+</I>&gt;<i>         software under Mageia -  When I scan a document into a PDF,
+</I>&gt;<i>         the
+</I>&gt;<i>         converted document is rather large (5MB) in comparison to the
+</I>&gt;<i>         same
+</I>&gt;<i>         document scanned under Windows 7 and the HP scan-to-PDF
+</I>&gt;<i>         feature (465Kb)
+</I>&gt;<i>         -  Just wanted to know why is this and can I influence how
+</I>&gt;<i>         compressed or
+</I>&gt;<i>         compact the PDF document is under Cauldron?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you scan at the same resolution? 
+</I>&gt;<i> The best compression would be to use OCR to get text instead of images
+</I>&gt;<i> but I wouldn't trust it to be accurate
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>         I used to scan with &quot;Acquire Images&quot; or XSane and then paste
+</I>&gt;<i>         the scanned
+</I>&gt;<i>         graphic into a LibreOffice document and then create a PDF
+</I>&gt;<i>         directly or
+</I>&gt;<i>         use ps2pdf14 to convert a &quot;print to file&quot; postscript output to
+</I>&gt;<i>         PDF
+</I>&gt;<i>         (which results in a comparatively small PDF)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Why not generating a PDF directly from XSane?
+</I>
+Thanks for the quick response - I posted to -dev only because I use only
+Cauldron on my machines to help with testing, and I though -discuss was
+more aimed at released versions (like Mageia 1)
+
+On a similar note, what ever happened to a standard PDF printer setup in
+the mcc (printerdrake is gone I believe) . . .  When I choose set up
+printers, I can only add physical and networked printers, but no option
+to add a PDF printer.  It was very helpful to have a generic PDF printer
+driver setup as a virtual printer (like PDFcreator)
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+Anyway, I digress . . . . Thanks again.
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+R.Fox
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On a similar note, what ever happened to a standard PDF printer setup in
+</I>&gt;<i> the mcc (printerdrake is gone I believe) . . .  When I choose set up
+</I>&gt;<i> printers, I can only add physical and networked printers, but no option
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+</I>&gt;<i> driver setup as a virtual printer (like PDFcreator)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway, I digress . . . . Thanks again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+I think Gtk apps have had the Print to File choice in the list of printers
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:22, Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On a similar note, what ever happened to a standard PDF printer setup in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the mcc (printerdrake is gone I believe) . . . &#160;When I choose set up
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> printers, I can only add physical and networked printers, but no option
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to add a PDF printer. &#160;It was very helpful to have a generic PDF printer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> driver setup as a virtual printer (like PDFcreator)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anyway, I digress . . . . Thanks again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think Gtk apps have had the Print to File choice in the list of printers
+</I>&gt;<i> for a few years
+</I>
+Same for kde, well at least okular and gwenview and the kipi plugins.
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+&gt;<i> On 31 March 2012 11:31, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:22, Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On a similar note, what ever happened to a standard PDF printer setup in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; the mcc (printerdrake is gone I believe) . . .  When I choose set up
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; printers, I can only add physical and networked printers, but no option
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; to add a PDF printer.  It was very helpful to have a generic PDF printer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; driver setup as a virtual printer (like PDFcreator)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Anyway, I digress . . . . Thanks again.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think Gtk apps have had the Print to File choice in the list of printers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; for a few years
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Same for kde, well at least okular and gwenview and the kipi plugins.
+</I>
+I found that cups-pdf wasn't installed which explained why
+system-config-printer didn't see a generic PDF printer.  Oddly enough,
+LibreOffice sees it, but I can't print to it (don't get a dialog to save
+to file) - but I found out when I &quot;print to file&quot; - it worked and made a
+real small output (87k file)
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+FYI -
+R.Fox
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+    <B>Frank Griffin</B> 
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+<PRE>On 03/31/2012 05:08 AM, Luc Menut wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 26/03/2012 02:56, Frank Griffin a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm not sure if this is worth a bug report, but the incremental KDE
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> upgrades in cauldron have a bad habit of regressing changes to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> configurations and preferences. With every major upgrade, the fact that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've disabled the screensaver gets forgotten. Sound volume keeps
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> resetting to 1%. Changes I've made to konsole settings to patch the yet
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> unfixed bug that sets vertical terminal dimensions to the screen maximum
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> get undone.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Did you make these changes in ~/.kde4/share/config or in 
+</I>&gt;<i> /var/lib/mageia/kde4-profiles/ ... ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I made all of them using the GUI configuration tools.
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 26/03/12 01:56 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Sound volume keeps resetting to 1%
+</I>
+This shouldn't be handled by any KDE config but by PulseAudio.
+
+Can you give any more info here?
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le mardi 27 mars 2012 21:10:04, Florian Hubold a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So if noone volunteers and ensures to keep it updated for stable distros,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i'm gonna drop it from cauldron next week, before it's too late.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What about adding it to task-obsolete and then if no maintainer is found for 
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 3 drop it completely?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Samuel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Well, dropping it means obsoleting it. It can be revived at any later time
+if someone feels up to it. Seems we mean the same thing, which was
+documented by boklm at
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packaging_guidelines#Obsoleting_a_package</A>
+Feel free to have a look if the servers are back up again ;)
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+<PRE>Am 31.03.2012 12:50, schrieb Robert Fox:
+&gt;<i> On Sat, 2012-03-31 at 11:36 +0100, Donald Stewart wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 31 March 2012 11:31, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:22, Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On a similar note, what ever happened to a standard PDF printer setup in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the mcc (printerdrake is gone I believe) . . .  When I choose set up
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> printers, I can only add physical and networked printers, but no option
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to add a PDF printer.  It was very helpful to have a generic PDF printer
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> driver setup as a virtual printer (like PDFcreator)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anyway, I digress . . . . Thanks again.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think Gtk apps have had the Print to File choice in the list of printers
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for a few years
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Same for kde, well at least okular and gwenview and the kipi plugins.
+</I>&gt;<i> I found that cups-pdf wasn't installed which explained why
+</I>&gt;<i> system-config-printer didn't see a generic PDF printer.  Oddly enough,
+</I>&gt;<i> LibreOffice sees it, but I can't print to it (don't get a dialog to save
+</I>&gt;<i> to file) - but I found out when I &quot;print to file&quot; - it worked and made a
+</I>&gt;<i> real small output (87k file)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> FYI -
+</I>&gt;<i> R.Fox
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I'm using simple-scan to scan directly to PDF, it works well,
+it's easy to use, also produces multi-page PDFs, just scan
+all the pages that you want sequentially and then save to
+PDF.
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+<PRE>Am 31.03.2012 11:43, schrieb zezinho:
+&gt;<i> Em 31-03-2012 10:46, JA Magall&#243;n escreveu:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> BTW, how can I check if html5 has hardware support ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> CPU load?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Maybe you want to check <A HREF="http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&amp;px=OTc4Nw">http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&amp;px=OTc4Nw</A>
+or
+<A HREF="http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/web-browser-performance-standard-html5,3013-10.html">http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/web-browser-performance-standard-html5,3013-10.html</A>
+and for a performance test <A HREF="http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/HWACCEL/">http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/HWACCEL/</A>
+You should get 60+FPS as test result for the latter.
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+<PRE>Am 31.03.2012 21:03, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+&gt;<i> Am 31.03.2012 11:43, schrieb zezinho:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Em 31-03-2012 10:46, JA Magall&#243;n escreveu:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> BTW, how can I check if html5 has hardware support ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> CPU load?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe you want to check <A HREF="http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&amp;px=OTc4Nw">http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&amp;px=OTc4Nw</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> or
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/web-browser-performance-standard-html5,3013-10.html">http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/web-browser-performance-standard-html5,3013-10.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> and for a performance test <A HREF="http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/HWACCEL/">http://demos.hacks.mozilla.org/openweb/HWACCEL/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> You should get 60+FPS as test result for the latter.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Ahh, forgot to tell, in Firefox you can check via about:support
+scroll to the bottom, and there you'll see your current graphics
+driver and the WebGL renderer.
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/3/31 Florian Hubold &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Am 31.03.2012 12:50, schrieb Robert Fox:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, 2012-03-31 at 11:36 +0100, Donald Stewart wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 31 March 2012 11:31, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 11:22, Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On a similar note, what ever happened to a standard PDF printer setup in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the mcc (printerdrake is gone I believe) . . . &#160;When I choose set up
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> printers, I can only add physical and networked printers, but no option
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to add a PDF printer. &#160;It was very helpful to have a generic PDF printer
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> driver setup as a virtual printer (like PDFcreator)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anyway, I digress . . . . Thanks again.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think Gtk apps have had the Print to File choice in the list of printers
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for a few years
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Same for kde, well at least okular and gwenview and the kipi plugins.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I found that cups-pdf wasn't installed which explained why
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> system-config-printer didn't see a generic PDF printer. &#160;Oddly enough,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> LibreOffice sees it, but I can't print to it (don't get a dialog to save
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to file) - but I found out when I &quot;print to file&quot; - it worked and made a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> real small output (87k file)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> FYI -
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> R.Fox
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm using simple-scan to scan directly to PDF, it works well,
+</I>&gt;<i> it's easy to use, also produces multi-page PDFs, just scan
+</I>&gt;<i> all the pages that you want sequentially and then save to
+</I>&gt;<i> PDF.
+</I>
+What about gscan2pdf? It can scan several pages into 1 pdf as well.
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+    <B>Frank Griffin</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Frank Griffin at 26/03/12 01:56 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sound volume keeps resetting to 1%
+</I>&gt;<i> This shouldn't be handled by any KDE config but by PulseAudio.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you give any more info here?
+</I>I know too little about PA to know where to start.
+
+The laptop has a built-in audio analog stereo and an RS780 HDMI Audio 
+(Radeon HD 3000-3300 Series) Digital Stereo.  The analog is the only one 
+that works at all, and it is the one that resets to 1%.
+
+I can't swear what it is that causes the reset.  I'll test rebooting to 
+eliminate that (very often the only time I reboot the laptop is when 
+I've installed cauldron upgrades that recommend it), but if it's package 
+installation, I don't know how to reproduce it.
+
+Thanks for the response.
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+    <B>Jerome Quelin</B> 
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+    <I>Fri Mar 30 18:07:13 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>hi,
+
+can someone push magpie? it is a release bringing a new command to create
+mageia's website about perl modules shipped by mageia.
+
+i know that it's not a bugfix release but:
+- magpie is only used by mageia packagers taking care of perl, not
+  end-users
+- new code is self-contained, it only features a new subcommand. rest of
+  the code is untouched.
+- it will allow to do some mageia promotion towards perl developers.
+- mageia-sysadmin is aware of the change and think that it should be ok
+  to push it
+
+now it's your call. :-)
+
+thanks,
+j&#233;r&#244;me 
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+    <B>Wojtulas</B> 
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+
+Why QT3 isn't available in Mageia?
+It is sill developed and it's needed for some users.
+
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+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012546.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012552.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012559.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012600.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: kernel-3.3-rc6 landing on Cauldron...
+</A><A NAME="12600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012603.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012613.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012695.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012733.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012764.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012767.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012830.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012874.html">[Mageia-dev] cleaning in core/updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="12874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012875.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012908.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder
+</A><A NAME="12908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012917.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013014.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013073.html">[Mageia-dev] March 13th, 2012 VirtualBox 4.1.10 released!
+</A><A NAME="13073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013234.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	ldetect-0.12.1-5.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013250.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: vlc-2.0.1
+</A><A NAME="13250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013254.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="13254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013267.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-10.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013275.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013295.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013371.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13371">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013395.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013407.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013410.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013412.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013413.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013452.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakxtools and drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013482.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012574.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with latest network manager
+</A><A NAME="12574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012619.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012623.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012722.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [220840] new version 4.8.1
+</A><A NAME="12722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013384.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013385.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013386.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013594.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013615.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013626.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013629.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013657.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012453.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012456.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12456">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012572.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with latest network manager
+</A><A NAME="12572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012575.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with latest network manager
+</A><A NAME="12575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012785.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012787.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012958.html">[Mageia-dev] xonotic and nexuiz
+</A><A NAME="12958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013050.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013119.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013678.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012503.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012505.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012509.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks not running?
+</A><A NAME="12509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012513.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012514.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012515.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks not running?
+</A><A NAME="12515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012523.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012538.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012540.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012554.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012624.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012631.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012645.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012647.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012650.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012660.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012674.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012680.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012683.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012688.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012691.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012729.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012739.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012744.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012754.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012761.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012800.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012812.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013080.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013083.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13083">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013084.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013086.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013092.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13092">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013094.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13094">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013361.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13361">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013437.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013440.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013445.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013705.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013706.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013712.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013311.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 116
+</A><A NAME="13311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Brett
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012452.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012455.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12455">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012498.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012528.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012565.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012569.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012622.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging groups
+</A><A NAME="12622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012668.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing noarch package from i586 repository
+</A><A NAME="12668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012673.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012694.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012710.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012728.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012734.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012742.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012746.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	p-uae-2.3.3-0.20120229git.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012758.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012763.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012855.html">[Mageia-dev] Strings in bootloader.pot
+</A><A NAME="12855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012857.html">[Mageia-dev] Strings in bootloader.pot
+</A><A NAME="12857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012910.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012911.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="12911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012915.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012928.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012932.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013252.html">[Mageia-dev] xfce still using iaora
+</A><A NAME="13252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013310.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013314.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013391.html">[Mageia-dev] New strings in drakx and urpmi - please do warn i18n
+</A><A NAME="13391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013739.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013766.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012682.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dark Charlot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013225.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm db issues
+</A><A NAME="13225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Scott Chevalley
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013231.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="13231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013323.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013464.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13464">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012489.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012491.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012492.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12492">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012543.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012585.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012615.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013055.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013215.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd 44
+</A><A NAME="13215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013272.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013281.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: icedtea-web
+</A><A NAME="13281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013290.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: icedtea-web
+</A><A NAME="13290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013315.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze pus: firefox
+</A><A NAME="13315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013316.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze pus: firefox
+</A><A NAME="13316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013317.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze pus: firefox
+</A><A NAME="13317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013453.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013486.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013520.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013575.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013649.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013692.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013694.html">[Mageia-dev] mga1 rebuild
+</A><A NAME="13694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013718.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012797.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013439.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013284.html">[Mageia-dev] bumblebee software and packages
+</A><A NAME="13284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013683.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eugeni Dodonov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012494.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12494">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012667.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012730.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012738.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012486.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012583.html">[Mageia-dev] Errors/warning from drakxtools-13.89.1
+</A><A NAME="12583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012790.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012796.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012909.html">[Mageia-dev] xonotic and nexuiz
+</A><A NAME="12909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012605.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thibaut FRANCOIS
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012636.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thibaut FRANCOIS
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013128.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013138.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013242.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013743.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape	for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012606.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012747.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013116.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013577.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin 2.10.3
+</A><A NAME="13577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012493.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates
+</A><A NAME="12493">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012506.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates
+</A><A NAME="12506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012638.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates
+</A><A NAME="12638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012945.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012948.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012950.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013032.html">[Mageia-dev] Is this intentional?
+</A><A NAME="13032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013072.html">[Mageia-dev] March 13th, 2012 VirtualBox 4.1.10 released!
+</A><A NAME="13072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013074.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013077.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13077">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013093.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13093">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013095.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13095">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013188.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox 11?
+</A><A NAME="13188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013253.html">[Mageia-dev] cgroup on the desktop
+</A><A NAME="13253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013325.html">[Mageia-dev] cgroup on the desktop
+</A><A NAME="13325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013381.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013571.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing in Action - 3G F5521gw
+</A><A NAME="13571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013608.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing in Action - 3G F5521gw
+</A><A NAME="13608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013754.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013756.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013759.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013011.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013722.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013748.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013749.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012462.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12462">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012464.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12464">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012653.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012662.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012666.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012672.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012681.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013039.html">[Mageia-dev] Odd Window framing in curses part of install
+</A><A NAME="13039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013040.html">[Mageia-dev] Odd Window framing in curses part of install
+</A><A NAME="13040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013043.html">[Mageia-dev] Odd Window framing in curses part of install
+</A><A NAME="13043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013535.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013760.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013767.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012467.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12467">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012560.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012563.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012564.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with latest network manager
+</A><A NAME="12564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012614.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: kernel-3.3-rc6 landing on Cauldron...
+</A><A NAME="12614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012629.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012633.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012640.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012641.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012649.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012651.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012652.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012656.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012657.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012658.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012664.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012671.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012679.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012686.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012687.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012690.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012698.html">[Mageia-dev] lvm2 initscript is marked as a config file...?
+</A><A NAME="12698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012699.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012700.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012704.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012706.html">[Mageia-dev] Gtk+3.0 bindings API break, what to do?
+</A><A NAME="12706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012715.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012716.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012718.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012725.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012736.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012737.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012743.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012748.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012757.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012759.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012779.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012782.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012783.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012784.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012786.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012791.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012793.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012804.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012806.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012821.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012823.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] no more mails from bugzilla?
+</A><A NAME="12823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012824.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012826.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012829.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012847.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012848.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012849.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012864.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012869.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012888.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	mageia-release-2-0.5.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012889.html">[Mageia-dev] lvm2 initscript is marked as a config file...?
+</A><A NAME="12889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012892.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012896.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012902.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012903.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012942.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="12942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012943.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012947.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012949.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012952.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012954.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012957.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012968.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012970.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="12970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012972.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="12972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013018.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013021.html">[Mageia-dev] Pulseaudio push vs version freeze
+</A><A NAME="13021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013031.html">[Mageia-dev] Mgaqueue, a small queue for BS
+</A><A NAME="13031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013035.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi
+</A><A NAME="13035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013061.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013065.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13065">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013082.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13082">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013101.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Dealing with GTK 3.3.18 scrolling handling changes for GNOME 3.4
+</A><A NAME="13101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013102.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013107.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3484] SILENT : bump VERSION (in Makefile)
+</A><A NAME="13107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013166.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd network.service issues
+</A><A NAME="13166">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013173.html">[Mageia-dev] [systemd error flag] Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013212.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd 44
+</A><A NAME="13212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013220.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013221.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4, kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013228.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd 44
+</A><A NAME="13228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013240.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: udisks2
+</A><A NAME="13240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013241.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013245.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: gdm pam changes
+</A><A NAME="13245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013324.html">[Mageia-dev] cgroup on the desktop
+</A><A NAME="13324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013378.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013380.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013398.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia on Raspberry-Pi (ARM port)
+</A><A NAME="13398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013448.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB: problem: final estimated release date
+</A><A NAME="13448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013470.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013477.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013489.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug squash party update
+</A><A NAME="13489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013490.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013502.html">[Mageia-dev] libgphoto version: freeze buster?
+</A><A NAME="13502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013512.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013513.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013515.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013528.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="13528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013529.html">[Mageia-dev] Too late for this ? (cairo 1.12)
+</A><A NAME="13529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013545.html">[Mageia-dev] libgphoto version: freeze buster?
+</A><A NAME="13545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013578.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing in Action - 3G F5521gw
+</A><A NAME="13578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013583.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	gdm-3.4.0.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013591.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013595.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013596.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013597.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013599.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013600.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013603.html">[Mageia-dev] Old library packages left on system after upgrade
+</A><A NAME="13603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013605.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013639.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013715.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013716.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013726.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013734.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013761.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012474.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012477.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012499.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012501.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12501">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012517.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012522.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12522">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012525.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012532.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012581.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012678.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012689.html">[Mageia-dev] Gtk+3.0 bindings API break, what to do?
+</A><A NAME="12689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012703.html">[Mageia-dev] lvm2 initscript is marked as a config file...?
+</A><A NAME="12703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012749.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012752.html">[Mageia-dev] Gtk+3.0 bindings API break, what to do?
+</A><A NAME="12752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012773.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012814.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache (was: Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release rutorrent-3.4-2.mga2)
+</A><A NAME="12814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012863.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="12863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012980.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012987.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013068.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="13068">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013109.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013110.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: cpuid
+</A><A NAME="13110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013111.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013112.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013143.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013145.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013146.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm: [211805] Split themes and i18n as	stand-alone packages
+</A><A NAME="13146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013147.html">[Mageia-dev] php pear mga2 upgrade issues (file conflicts)
+</A><A NAME="13147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013148.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd network.service issues
+</A><A NAME="13148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013167.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013169.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd network.service issues
+</A><A NAME="13169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013177.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mariadb (beta)
+</A><A NAME="13177">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013181.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push openvpn
+</A><A NAME="13181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013185.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13185">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013218.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013222.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013223.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013402.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013405.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013411.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013429.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013498.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013499.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013508.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013563.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: opera-11.62
+</A><A NAME="13563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013616.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mpg123
+</A><A NAME="13616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013179.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012584.html">[Mageia-dev] Errors/warning from drakxtools-13.89.1
+</A><A NAME="12584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012771.html">[Mageia-dev] Release_blocker bugs
+</A><A NAME="12771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012811.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012904.html">[Mageia-dev] Release_blocker bugs
+</A><A NAME="12904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012905.html">[Mageia-dev] packagekit, gstreamer and urpmi
+</A><A NAME="12905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012916.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012921.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013004.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="13004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013013.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013076.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013326.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013336.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13336">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013383.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013160.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13160">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederik Himpe
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012542.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with systemd and /media.
+</A><A NAME="12542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012794.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012795.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012845.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012959.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013286.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013349.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13349">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013533.html">[Mageia-dev] How should packages with version in name be handled?
+</A><A NAME="13533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013636.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013697.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012454.html">[Mageia-dev] fontconfig rules of google droid fonts
+</A><A NAME="12454">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012458.html">[Mageia-dev] fontconfig rules of google droid fonts
+</A><A NAME="12458">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012635.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging groups
+</A><A NAME="12635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013357.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13357">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012604.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012611.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing a package (ntfs-config), which requires hal
+</A><A NAME="12611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012709.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012714.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012822.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Nonresponsive or absent package maintainers &amp; policy discussion
+</A><A NAME="12822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012886.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012897.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012901.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012906.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012939.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="12939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012941.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012946.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013194.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013196.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013197.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013332.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13332">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013333.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13333">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013339.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13339">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013553.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013554.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013570.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013606.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013622.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013625.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013663.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013673.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013675.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013679.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013762.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013763.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013764.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013765.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012802.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012483.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012484.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012495.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12495">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012512.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012539.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012541.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012594.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012643.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012648.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012868.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012898.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013163.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13163">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013165.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd network.service issues
+</A><A NAME="13165">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013248.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013304.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013307.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013309.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013559.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: syntek
+</A><A NAME="13559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013561.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: syntek
+</A><A NAME="13561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012524.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012999.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="12999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013235.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="13235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013418.html">[Mageia-dev] [push] gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
+</A><A NAME="13418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013420.html">[Mageia-dev] [push] gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
+</A><A NAME="13420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013438.html">[Mageia-dev] [push] gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
+</A><A NAME="13438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012993.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013019.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013020.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012818.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012602.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013029.html">[Mageia-dev] Mgaqueue, a small queue for BS
+</A><A NAME="13029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013436.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] compiz 0.9.7.2
+</A><A NAME="13436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013461.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] compiz 0.9.7.2
+</A><A NAME="13461">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013460.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13460">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013472.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] compiz 0.9.7.2
+</A><A NAME="13472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013483.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013487.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013501.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13501">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013550.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013555.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013623.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push, liferea 1.8.4
+</A><A NAME="13623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013682.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push, liferea 1.8.4
+</A><A NAME="13682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013741.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push, liferea 1.8.4
+</A><A NAME="13741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013695.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andres Kaaber
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012480.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012482.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012520.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012535.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012891.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012899.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013089.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012935.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013096.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: cpuid
+</A><A NAME="13096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013099.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin
+</A><A NAME="13099">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013113.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: cpuid
+</A><A NAME="13113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013327.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013340.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13340">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013574.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013589.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013587.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin 2.10.3
+</A><A NAME="13587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013588.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: pidgin-sipe
+</A><A NAME="13588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013646.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: pidgin-sipe
+</A><A NAME="13646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013653.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013703.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: pidgin-sipe
+</A><A NAME="13703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012496.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12496">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012548.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012568.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012571.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012809.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012827.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012912.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="12912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012914.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012918.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012965.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013154.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13154">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013162.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13162">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013189.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox 11?
+</A><A NAME="13189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013467.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13467">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013547.html">[Mageia-dev] libgphoto version: freeze buster?
+</A><A NAME="13547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013740.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013366.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13366">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013367.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13367">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013719.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013723.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013725.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012659.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magallon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012846.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012851.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012860.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="12860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012964.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: version freeze and what it means for Mageia 1 updates
+</A><A NAME="12964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013015.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="13015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013255.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013525.html">[Mageia-dev] Too late for this ? (cairo 1.12)
+</A><A NAME="13525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013527.html">[Mageia-dev] Too late for this ? (cairo 1.12)
+</A><A NAME="13527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013546.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013745.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013746.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013750.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012832.html">[Mageia-dev] plt compilation error
+</A><A NAME="12832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012844.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013164.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13164">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013478.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push request: scite
+</A><A NAME="13478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matteo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012551.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012553.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012555.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012573.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012717.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012859.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	vlc-2.0.0-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013500.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013511.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013516.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013631.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation issues
+</A><A NAME="13631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013752.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012692.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012693.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013491.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013492.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13492">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013506.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013507.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push request: scite
+</A><A NAME="13507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013517.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013541.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013544.html">[Mageia-dev] How should packages with version in name be	handled?
+</A><A NAME="13544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012931.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012933.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012992.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpm-helper
+</A><A NAME="12992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013028.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia-release's release notes are empty
+</A><A NAME="13028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013045.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-stage2-13.94
+</A><A NAME="13045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013376.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013404.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-net
+</A><A NAME="13404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013431.html">[Mageia-dev] [push] gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
+</A><A NAME="13431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013432.html">[Mageia-dev] New security issues affect libzip and php (freeze push will be needed)
+</A><A NAME="13432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013433.html">[Mageia-dev] New security issues affect libzip and php (freeze push will be needed)
+</A><A NAME="13433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013524.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: udisks2
+</A><A NAME="13524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013540.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013567.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: sympa
+</A><A NAME="13567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013614.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013618.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: maradns
+</A><A NAME="13618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013690.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mariadb (rc)
+</A><A NAME="13690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013693.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mariadb (rc)
+</A><A NAME="13693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013717.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013720.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013805.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: magpie
+</A><A NAME="13805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012544.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with systemd and /media.
+</A><A NAME="12544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012836.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012850.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012853.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013129.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push openvpn
+</A><A NAME="13129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013168.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push openvpn
+</A><A NAME="13168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013282.html">[Mageia-dev] Pleash push postfix
+</A><A NAME="13282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013372.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013375.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013379.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013422.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013424.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013518.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012731.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire REVILLET
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012459.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12459">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012465.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12465">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012755.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012769.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013106.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3484] SILENT : bump VERSION (in Makefile)
+</A><A NAME="13106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013206.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13206">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013229.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm db issues
+</A><A NAME="13229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013262.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers team elections
+</A><A NAME="13262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013408.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug off!
+</A><A NAME="13408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013485.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug squash party update
+</A><A NAME="13485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013537.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug squash party update
+</A><A NAME="13537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013617.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: maradns
+</A><A NAME="13617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013684.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013686.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013696.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013738.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012537.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating the lm_sensors package with a new &quot;sensors-detect&quot; script without a new lm_sensors version
+</A><A NAME="12537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012607.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing a package (ntfs-config), which requires hal
+</A><A NAME="12607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012677.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013184.html">[Mageia-dev] [bugs] [Bug 3466] Add radeon-firmware in the Isos or add radeon.modeset=0 option
+</A><A NAME="13184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013409.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013414.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012789.html">[Mageia-dev] Release_blocker bugs
+</A><A NAME="12789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013203.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13203">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013224.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013321.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013443.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug off!
+</A><A NAME="13443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Karel Roth
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012478.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012550.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012620.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012621.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012626.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012726.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012740.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012756.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012762.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012810.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012820.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012831.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012837.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012838.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012984.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3424] convert to utf8
+</A><A NAME="12984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012985.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpm-helper
+</A><A NAME="12985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013003.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013036.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: openssl
+</A><A NAME="13036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013066.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13066">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013120.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013131.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013135.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013155.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13155">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013156.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13156">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013170.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013171.html">[Mageia-dev] [systemd error flag] Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013172.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013180.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13180">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013204.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13204">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013207.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13207">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013216.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013237.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013270.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013273.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013276.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013358.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13358">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013566.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: sympa
+</A><A NAME="13566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013582.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013655.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013659.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013660.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013661.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013662.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: expat 2.1.0
+</A><A NAME="13662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013664.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013667.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013698.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013700.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013713.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013724.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013728.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012475.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012497.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12497">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012519.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012529.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012816.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012817.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012819.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012825.html">[Mageia-dev] plt compilation error
+</A><A NAME="12825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012835.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012839.html">[Mageia-dev] plt compilation error
+</A><A NAME="12839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012981.html">[Mageia-dev] Python3 modules
+</A><A NAME="12981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013012.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-Private] Consolidation of the spelling	tools in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013044.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-stage2-13.94
+</A><A NAME="13044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013060.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013103.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-stage2-13.94
+</A><A NAME="13103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013117.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3483] - stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org ( mga#1590)
+</A><A NAME="13117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013123.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013126.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013136.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013140.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013141.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013271.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013369.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13369">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013373.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and rebuild	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013390.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and rebuild drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013468.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and rebuild drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13468">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013495.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help
+</A><A NAME="13495">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013496.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13496">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013534.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013471.html">[Mageia-dev] MTRR problem
+</A><A NAME="13471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012545.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012547.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012586.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libvirt-0.9.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012587.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012589.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012590.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012801.html">[Mageia-dev] Release_blocker bugs
+</A><A NAME="12801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012840.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012885.html">[Mageia-dev] lvm2 initscript is marked as a config file...?
+</A><A NAME="12885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012913.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012919.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012920.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012923.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder
+</A><A NAME="12923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012929.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012930.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012937.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012944.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012953.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012969.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012971.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="12971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013005.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013006.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="13006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013007.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: GConf 3.2.5
+</A><A NAME="13007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013306.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi
+</A><A NAME="13306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Sj&#246;lin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012485.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012487.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012504.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012561.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012599.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012646.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012676.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012745.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012766.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012828.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012841.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012852.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012924.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012925.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012982.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013425.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012466.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current	status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12466">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012556.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012558.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012566.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012601.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012634.html">[Mageia-dev]  BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012663.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012890.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-Private] Consolidation of the spelling	tools in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="12890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013022.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-Private] Consolidation of the spelling	tools in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013347.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13347">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013348.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13348">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013350.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push
+</A><A NAME="13350">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013454.html">[Mageia-dev] mf2pt1
+</A><A NAME="13454">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013463.html">[Mageia-dev] mf2pt1
+</A><A NAME="13463">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013465.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13465">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013469.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13469">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013536.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013637.html">[Mageia-dev] php-channel-phpunit
+</A><A NAME="13637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013638.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013685.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013687.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013688.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013689.html">[Mageia-dev] mga1 rebuild
+</A><A NAME="13689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013730.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013731.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive need mf2pt1
+</A><A NAME="13731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013747.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013758.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013302.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi
+</A><A NAME="13302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Tartavel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012457.html">[Mageia-dev] fontconfig rules of google droid fonts
+</A><A NAME="12457">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012472.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012500.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012502.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012557.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012562.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012567.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012570.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012591.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012592.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012593.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012595.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012610.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012616.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012628.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3193] Add missing backported commit
+</A><A NAME="12628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012642.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012654.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012661.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012665.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012669.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing noarch package from i586 repository
+</A><A NAME="12669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012670.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing noarch package from i586 repository
+</A><A NAME="12670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012685.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012719.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system bugs
+</A><A NAME="12719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012723.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system bugs
+</A><A NAME="12723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012732.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012815.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache (was: Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release rutorrent-3.4-2.mga2)
+</A><A NAME="12815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012834.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012842.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system bugs
+</A><A NAME="12842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012867.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012922.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012995.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012996.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013000.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3428] Get rid of ERR log level
+</A><A NAME="13000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013033.html">[Mageia-dev] Is this intentional?
+</A><A NAME="13033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013064.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13064">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013105.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3484] SILENT : bump VERSION (in	Makefile)
+</A><A NAME="13105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013122.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3526] make clean-rpmsrate 11. 5% faster on average on cached repo directory by
+</A><A NAME="13122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013175.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13175">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013199.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013305.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013406.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013417.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013423.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013466.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13466">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013494.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13494">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013497.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13497">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013504.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013509.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013543.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3800] (plog_init) enable	perl_checker to check callers
+</A><A NAME="13543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013592.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013677.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013755.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013757.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012637.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012644.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012470.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012471.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012473.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012476.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012479.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012481.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012530.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012531.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012534.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012576.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012577.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012596.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012597.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012630.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012696.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing noarch package from i586 repository
+</A><A NAME="12696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012697.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012701.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012702.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012705.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012770.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012778.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012854.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012871.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012873.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012880.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012882.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012900.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012960.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012998.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013017.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013041.html">[Mageia-dev] Odd Window framing in curses part of install
+</A><A NAME="13041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013053.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013054.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013098.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13098">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013100.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin
+</A><A NAME="13100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013125.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013142.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mariadb (beta)
+</A><A NAME="13142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013174.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013176.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013328.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi (David Sj?lin)
+</A><A NAME="13328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013329.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request: urpmi-proxy-0.3.2
+</A><A NAME="13329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013342.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13342">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013352.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push
+</A><A NAME="13352">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013360.html">[Mageia-dev] rescue has mount.nfs, but no statd
+</A><A NAME="13360">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013396.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013397.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013399.html">[Mageia-dev] rescue has mount.nfs, but no statd
+</A><A NAME="13399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013416.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013419.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013426.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013427.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013430.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013441.html">[Mageia-dev] rescue has mount.nfs, but no statd
+</A><A NAME="13441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013442.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013446.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013447.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB: problem: final estimated release date
+</A><A NAME="13447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013450.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakxtools and drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013493.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13493">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013672.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013674.html">[Mageia-dev] RFT: xen support
+</A><A NAME="13674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013676.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013680.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013681.html">[Mageia-dev]  Freeze push: mariadb (rc)
+</A><A NAME="13681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013691.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013735.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013736.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013737.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013751.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013488.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug squash party update
+</A><A NAME="13488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012765.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012772.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012775.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012776.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012780.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012781.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: libtorrent and rtorrent reverted to their stable	versions
+</A><A NAME="12781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012940.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012963.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: version freeze and what it means for Mageia 1	updates
+</A><A NAME="12963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013063.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013152.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013278.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Reviving AppStream and current status
+</A><A NAME="13278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013387.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013388.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013401.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: autojump
+</A><A NAME="13401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013556.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013586.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: autojump
+</A><A NAME="13586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013714.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012468.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12468">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012469.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12469">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012578.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libvirt-0.9.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012579.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012580.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012588.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	smplayer-0.7.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012608.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012612.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012617.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	urpmi-6.45-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012618.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012627.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3193] Add missing backported commit
+</A><A NAME="12627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012707.html">[Mageia-dev] Gtk+3.0 bindings API break, what to do?
+</A><A NAME="12707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012708.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012712.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3040] include missing	hid-logitech-dj HID driver (mga#4129)
+</A><A NAME="12712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012713.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xorg-x11-7.6-6.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012724.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012727.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012735.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	p-uae-2.3.3-0.20120229git.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012798.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	kmod-virtualbox-4.1.8-17.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012813.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] no more mails from bugzilla?
+</A><A NAME="12813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012856.html">[Mageia-dev] Strings in bootloader.pot
+</A><A NAME="12856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012858.html">[Mageia-dev] Strings in bootloader.pot
+</A><A NAME="12858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012861.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3279] fixed the pot file so it	passes msgfmt
+</A><A NAME="12861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012865.html">[Mageia-dev] cleaning in core/updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="12865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012866.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012870.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: libtorrent and rtorrent reverted to their stable versions
+</A><A NAME="12870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012872.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012876.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	otrs-3.1.2-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012879.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012883.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012884.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	mageia-release-2-0.5.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012894.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012907.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder
+</A><A NAME="12907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012926.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012927.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012934.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012936.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012973.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3417] Updating Spanish translation
+</A><A NAME="12973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012979.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="12979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012983.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3424] convert to utf8
+</A><A NAME="12983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012986.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012989.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012991.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012997.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3428] Get rid of ERR log level
+</A><A NAME="12997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013001.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013027.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia-release's release notes are empty
+</A><A NAME="13027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013030.html">[Mageia-dev] Mgaqueue, a small queue for BS
+</A><A NAME="13030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013038.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-13.92-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013042.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-stage2-13.94
+</A><A NAME="13042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013046.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-images &amp;	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013047.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: microcode
+</A><A NAME="13047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013056.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xguest-1.0.10-6.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013058.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="13058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013062.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013079.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013085.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013087.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013088.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3457] add html file, images and css
+</A><A NAME="13088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013091.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="13091">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013114.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013115.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3483] - stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org ( mga#1590)
+</A><A NAME="13115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013124.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3526] make clean-rpmsrate 11. 5% faster on average on cached repo directory by
+</A><A NAME="13124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013149.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013150.html">[Mageia-dev] php pear mga2 upgrade issues (file conflicts)
+</A><A NAME="13150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013151.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013178.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013182.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker, perl-URPM
+</A><A NAME="13182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013198.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013200.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13200">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013209.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013226.html">[Mageia-dev] [692] - import stage1/drakxtools mips support
+</A><A NAME="13226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013230.html">[Mageia-dev] [692] - import stage1/drakxtools mips support
+</A><A NAME="13230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013232.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	ldetect-0.12.1-5.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013233.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker
+</A><A NAME="13233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013238.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: urpmi
+</A><A NAME="13238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013239.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="13239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013251.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="13251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013256.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="13256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013268.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-10.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013269.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	oxygen-gtk-1.2.1-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013279.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013283.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer stage2
+</A><A NAME="13283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013355.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13355">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013356.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: mesa
+</A><A NAME="13356">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013362.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13362">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013363.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13363">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013370.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13370">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013382.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013393.html">[Mageia-dev] New strings in drakx and urpmi - please do warn	i18n
+</A><A NAME="13393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013394.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013403.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-net
+</A><A NAME="13403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013434.html">[Mageia-dev] rescue has mount.nfs, but no statd
+</A><A NAME="13434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013435.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013444.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013449.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakxtools and drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013451.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakxtools and drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013456.html">[Mageia-dev] reeze push: drakconf
+</A><A NAME="13456">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013462.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13462">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013473.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013474.html">[Mageia-dev] reeze push: drakconf
+</A><A NAME="13474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013479.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013480.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and rebuild	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013484.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013503.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013514.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013531.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker
+</A><A NAME="13531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013542.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013549.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3800] (plog_init) enable perl_checker to check callers
+</A><A NAME="13549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013557.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: urpmi &amp; rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013579.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	gdm-3.4.0.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013620.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libzip (security update)
+</A><A NAME="13620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013621.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013627.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013640.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013648.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013699.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013701.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013708.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013711.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013729.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012460.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12460">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012463.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12463">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012516.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012536.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: 2012/03/07
+</A><A NAME="12536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012955.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012966.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: libgdata 0.11.1 (security release)
+</A><A NAME="12966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012974.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: GConf 3.2.5
+</A><A NAME="12974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012976.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: libgdata 0.11.1 (security release)
+</A><A NAME="12976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012988.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012990.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012994.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013009.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: GConf 3.2.5
+</A><A NAME="13009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013057.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013059.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013067.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13067">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013069.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013078.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013075.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013097.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Dealing with GTK 3.3.18 scrolling handling	changes for GNOME 3.4
+</A><A NAME="13097">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013153.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13153">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013202.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13202">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013243.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: gdm pam changes
+</A><A NAME="13243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013246.html">[Mageia-dev] Banshee 2.4.0 security push
+</A><A NAME="13246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013277.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013296.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013322.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013341.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13341">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013359.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13359">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013365.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13365">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013377.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013374.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Banshee 2.4.0 security push
+</A><A NAME="13374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013392.html">[Mageia-dev] New strings in drakx and urpmi - please do warn	i18n
+</A><A NAME="13392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013548.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013581.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	gdm-3.4.0.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013641.html">[Mageia-dev] Shutdown button by default in Mageia 2 Gnome	request
+</A><A NAME="13641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013642.html">[Mageia-dev] Shutdown button by default in Mageia 2 Gnome	request
+</A><A NAME="13642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012549.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating the lm_sensors package with a new &quot;sensors-detect&quot; script without a new lm_sensors version
+</A><A NAME="12549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012598.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	farstream-0.1.1-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012751.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	lxdm-0.4.1-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012760.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013191.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: minitube
+</A><A NAME="13191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013192.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: fsarchiver
+</A><A NAME="13192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013293.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: fsarchiver
+</A><A NAME="13293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013294.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: minitube
+</A><A NAME="13294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012461.html">[Mageia-dev] fontconfig rules of google droid fonts
+</A><A NAME="12461">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013025.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: version freeze and what it means for Mageia 1	updates
+</A><A NAME="13025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013071.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013104.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013134.html">[Mageia-dev] kmail losing e-mails ?
+</A><A NAME="13134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012582.html">[Mageia-dev] possibly important packages missing updates
+</A><A NAME="12582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012895.html">[Mageia-dev] package update request: gif2png
+</A><A NAME="12895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013257.html">[Mageia-dev] lm_sensors update for newer kernels
+</A><A NAME="13257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013258.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013259.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libdvdcss
+</A><A NAME="13259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013260.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-applet update for KDE 4.8.1
+</A><A NAME="13260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013344.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-24.b24.12.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13344">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013345.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13345">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013346.html">[Mageia-dev] lm_sensors update for newer kernels (tmb)
+</A><A NAME="13346">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013415.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013421.html">[Mageia-dev] New security issues affect libzip and php (freeze push	will be needed)
+</A><A NAME="13421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013428.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push
+</A><A NAME="13428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013519.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013521.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB: problem: final estimated release date
+</A><A NAME="13521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013522.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13522">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013523.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: udisks2
+</A><A NAME="13523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013564.html">[Mageia-dev] New security issues affect libzip and php (freeze	push will be needed)
+</A><A NAME="13564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013565.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013568.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013572.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013593.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013598.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013601.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013602.html">[Mageia-dev] Old library packages left on system after upgrade
+</A><A NAME="13602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013604.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libzip (security update)
+</A><A NAME="13604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013607.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013611.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libzip (security update)
+</A><A NAME="13611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013612.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013613.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mpg123
+</A><A NAME="13613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013619.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013628.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013633.html">[Mageia-dev] lm_sensors update for newer kernels (tmb)
+</A><A NAME="13633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013634.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013656.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013658.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013668.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013721.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012488.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012490.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012721.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system bugs
+</A><A NAME="12721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012862.html">[Mageia-dev] Package removal request
+</A><A NAME="12862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012967.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: libgdata 0.11.1 (security release)
+</A><A NAME="12967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012975.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="12975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013023.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4, kdevelop4-php,	kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013026.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="13026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013051.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4,	kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013052.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013190.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4,	kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013193.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013195.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013210.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4,	kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013211.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013214.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013249.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: vlc-2.0.1
+</A><A NAME="13249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013265.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="13265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013287.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libtasn1, gnutls
+</A><A NAME="13287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013343.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13343">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013351.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libpng12-1.2.48
+</A><A NAME="13351">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013455.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: raptor2
+</A><A NAME="13455">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013505.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013526.html">[Mageia-dev] Too late for this ? (cairo 1.12)
+</A><A NAME="13526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013562.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: opera-11.62
+</A><A NAME="13562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013573.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013576.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="016389.html">[Mageia-dev] QT3 in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="16389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wojtulas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012508.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012510.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012639.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012655.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013118.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013650.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013652.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012750.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Z&#233;zinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013313.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi (David Sj?lin)
+</A><A NAME="13313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>brett
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013389.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia on Raspberry-Pi (ARM port)
+</A><A NAME="13389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>brett
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012833.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012843.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013130.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013133.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013137.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013157.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13157">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012878.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012887.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013108.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>n54 at gmx.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013647.html">[Mageia-dev] about gnome-python-gtkmozembed
+</A><A NAME="13647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013732.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012533.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: 2012/03/07
+</A><A NAME="12533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012675.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012741.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="12741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012803.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012808.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder
+</A><A NAME="12808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012893.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012977.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: libgdata 0.11.1 (security release)
+</A><A NAME="12977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013002.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013008.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013010.html">[Mageia-dev] Pulseaudio push vs version freeze
+</A><A NAME="13010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013037.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: openssl
+</A><A NAME="13037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013048.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-images &amp;	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013049.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: microcode
+</A><A NAME="13049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013070.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's package
+</A><A NAME="13070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013081.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13081">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013090.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3457] add html file, images and css
+</A><A NAME="13090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013127.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013139.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers team elections
+</A><A NAME="13139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013205.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13205">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013213.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013217.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013219.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4, kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013236.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker
+</A><A NAME="13236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013244.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: gdm pam changes
+</A><A NAME="13244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013247.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging help for GDM+GNOME Mageia background	(long)
+</A><A NAME="13247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013261.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers team elections
+</A><A NAME="13261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013263.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers team elections
+</A><A NAME="13263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013264.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers election
+</A><A NAME="13264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013280.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013289.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013291.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer stage2
+</A><A NAME="13291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013292.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libtasn1, gnutls
+</A><A NAME="13292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013297.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013298.html">[Mageia-dev] Pleash push postfix
+</A><A NAME="13298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013300.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: fsarchiver
+</A><A NAME="13300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013301.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: minitube
+</A><A NAME="13301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013303.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013320.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze pus: firefox
+</A><A NAME="13320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013330.html">[Mageia-dev] Tracker for security updates
+</A><A NAME="13330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013364.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13364">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013368.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: mesa
+</A><A NAME="13368">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013457.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13457">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013458.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: raptor2
+</A><A NAME="13458">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013459.html">[Mageia-dev] mf2pt1
+</A><A NAME="13459">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013510.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013590.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013707.html">[Mageia-dev] php pear mga2 upgrade issues (file conflicts)
+</A><A NAME="13707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013710.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012938.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="12938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>paiiou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012625.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>paulo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012720.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013016.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013024.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013624.html">[Mageia-dev] Shutdown button by default in Mageia 2 Gnome request
+</A><A NAME="13624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012788.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012792.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012805.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012807.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012877.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012951.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012956.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012978.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013144.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013161.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13161">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012753.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012768.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012774.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012777.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013121.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013158.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13158">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013159.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13159">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013183.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker, perl-URPM
+</A><A NAME="13183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013334.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13334">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013335.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13335">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013337.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libdvdcss
+</A><A NAME="13337">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013338.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13338">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013353.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13353">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013354.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libpng12-1.2.48
+</A><A NAME="13354">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013475.html">[Mageia-dev] reeze push: drakconf
+</A><A NAME="13475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013476.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and	rebuild	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013481.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and	rebuild	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013530.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="13530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013532.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker
+</A><A NAME="13532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013551.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013552.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013558.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: urpmi &amp; rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013560.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: syntek
+</A><A NAME="13560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013569.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013580.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013584.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013585.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin 2.10.3
+</A><A NAME="13585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013609.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libzip (security update)
+</A><A NAME="13609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013610.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013643.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013644.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape	for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013645.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013651.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013654.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013665.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013666.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: expat 2.1.0
+</A><A NAME="13666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013671.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push : phpmyadmin
+</A><A NAME="13671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013702.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013704.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013709.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013727.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013733.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013744.html">[Mageia-dev] Servers downtime
+</A><A NAME="13744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013266.html">[Mageia-dev] bumblebee software and packages
+</A><A NAME="13266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013285.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with	drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013288.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with	drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013308.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013312.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013318.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013319.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013331.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013630.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013632.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with	drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013635.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with	drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012511.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012609.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding b43-openfwwf to default setup
+</A><A NAME="12609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012632.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012684.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012711.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012799.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012881.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012961.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012962.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013132.html">[Mageia-dev] Sysadmin please remove from cauldron maniadrive-data
+</A><A NAME="13132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013186.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker, perl-URPM
+</A><A NAME="13186">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013187.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker, perl-URPM
+</A><A NAME="13187">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013201.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13201">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013208.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013274.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013299.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer stage2
+</A><A NAME="13299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013400.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013538.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013670.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push : phpmyadmin
+</A><A NAME="13670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013742.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013753.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+    </ul>
+    <p>
+      <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> 
+       <i>Sat Mar 31 21:33:25 CEST 2012</i><br>
+    <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 16:48:19 CEST 2012</i>
+    <p>
+   <ul>
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+		
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+	     <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+      <h1>March 2012 Archives by date</h1>
+      <ul>
+         <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+	        <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+		<a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+		<a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+		
+
+	     <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+                    </a></b></li>
+      </ul>
+      <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Mar  1 07:42:41 CET 2012</i><br>
+         <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Mar 31 21:33:25 CEST 2012</i><br>
+         <b>Messages:</b> 1318<p>
+     <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012452.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012453.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012454.html">[Mageia-dev] fontconfig rules of google droid fonts
+</A><A NAME="12454">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012455.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12455">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012456.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12456">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012457.html">[Mageia-dev] fontconfig rules of google droid fonts
+</A><A NAME="12457">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012458.html">[Mageia-dev] fontconfig rules of google droid fonts
+</A><A NAME="12458">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012459.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12459">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012460.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12460">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012461.html">[Mageia-dev] fontconfig rules of google droid fonts
+</A><A NAME="12461">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012462.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12462">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012463.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12463">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012464.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12464">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012465.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12465">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012466.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current	status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12466">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012467.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12467">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012468.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12468">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012469.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12469">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012470.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012471.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012472.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012473.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012474.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012475.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012476.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012477.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012478.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012479.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012480.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012481.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012482.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012483.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012484.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012485.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012486.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012487.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012488.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012489.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012490.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012491.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012492.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12492">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012493.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates
+</A><A NAME="12493">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012494.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12494">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012495.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12495">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012496.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12496">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012497.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12497">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012498.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012499.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012500.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012501.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12501">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012502.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012503.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012504.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012505.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012506.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates
+</A><A NAME="12506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012507.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012508.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012509.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks not running?
+</A><A NAME="12509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012510.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012511.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012512.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012513.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012514.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012515.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks not running?
+</A><A NAME="12515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012516.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012517.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012518.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012519.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012520.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012521.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012522.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12522">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012523.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012524.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012525.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012526.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012527.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012528.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012529.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012530.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012531.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012532.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012533.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: 2012/03/07
+</A><A NAME="12533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="016389.html">[Mageia-dev] QT3 in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="16389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wojtulas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012534.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012535.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012536.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: 2012/03/07
+</A><A NAME="12536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012537.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating the lm_sensors package with a new &quot;sensors-detect&quot; script without a new lm_sensors version
+</A><A NAME="12537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012538.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012539.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012540.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012541.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012542.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with systemd and /media.
+</A><A NAME="12542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012543.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012544.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with systemd and /media.
+</A><A NAME="12544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012545.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012546.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012547.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012548.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012549.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating the lm_sensors package with a new &quot;sensors-detect&quot; script without a new lm_sensors version
+</A><A NAME="12549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012550.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012551.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012552.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012553.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012554.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012555.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012556.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012557.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012558.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012559.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012560.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012561.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012562.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012563.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012564.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with latest network manager
+</A><A NAME="12564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012565.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012566.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012567.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012568.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012569.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012570.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012571.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012572.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with latest network manager
+</A><A NAME="12572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012573.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012574.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with latest network manager
+</A><A NAME="12574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012575.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with latest network manager
+</A><A NAME="12575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012576.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012577.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012578.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libvirt-0.9.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012579.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012580.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012581.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012582.html">[Mageia-dev] possibly important packages missing updates
+</A><A NAME="12582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012583.html">[Mageia-dev] Errors/warning from drakxtools-13.89.1
+</A><A NAME="12583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012584.html">[Mageia-dev] Errors/warning from drakxtools-13.89.1
+</A><A NAME="12584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012585.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012586.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libvirt-0.9.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012587.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012588.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	smplayer-0.7.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012589.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012590.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012591.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012592.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012593.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012594.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012595.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012596.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012597.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012598.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	farstream-0.1.1-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012602.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012599.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012600.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: kernel-3.3-rc6 landing on Cauldron...
+</A><A NAME="12600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012601.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012603.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012604.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012605.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thibaut FRANCOIS
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012606.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012607.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing a package (ntfs-config), which requires hal
+</A><A NAME="12607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012608.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012609.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding b43-openfwwf to default setup
+</A><A NAME="12609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012610.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012611.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing a package (ntfs-config), which requires hal
+</A><A NAME="12611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012612.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012613.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012614.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: kernel-3.3-rc6 landing on Cauldron...
+</A><A NAME="12614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012615.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012616.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012617.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	urpmi-6.45-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012618.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012619.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012620.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012621.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012622.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging groups
+</A><A NAME="12622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012623.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012624.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012625.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>paulo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012626.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012627.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3193] Add missing backported commit
+</A><A NAME="12627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012628.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3193] Add missing backported commit
+</A><A NAME="12628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012629.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012630.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012631.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012632.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012633.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012634.html">[Mageia-dev]  BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012635.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging groups
+</A><A NAME="12635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012636.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thibaut FRANCOIS
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012637.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012638.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates
+</A><A NAME="12638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012639.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012640.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012641.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012642.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012643.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012644.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012645.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012646.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012647.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012648.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012649.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012650.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012651.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012652.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012659.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magallon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012653.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012654.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012655.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012656.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012657.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012658.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012660.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012661.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012662.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012663.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012664.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012665.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012666.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012667.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012668.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing noarch package from i586 repository
+</A><A NAME="12668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012669.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing noarch package from i586 repository
+</A><A NAME="12669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012670.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing noarch package from i586 repository
+</A><A NAME="12670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012671.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012672.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012673.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012674.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012675.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012676.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012677.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012678.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012679.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012680.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012681.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012682.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dark Charlot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012683.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012684.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012685.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012686.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012687.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012688.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012689.html">[Mageia-dev] Gtk+3.0 bindings API break, what to do?
+</A><A NAME="12689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012690.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012691.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012692.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012693.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012694.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012695.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012696.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing noarch package from i586 repository
+</A><A NAME="12696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012697.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012698.html">[Mageia-dev] lvm2 initscript is marked as a config file...?
+</A><A NAME="12698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012699.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012700.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012701.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012702.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012703.html">[Mageia-dev] lvm2 initscript is marked as a config file...?
+</A><A NAME="12703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012704.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012705.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012706.html">[Mageia-dev] Gtk+3.0 bindings API break, what to do?
+</A><A NAME="12706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012707.html">[Mageia-dev] Gtk+3.0 bindings API break, what to do?
+</A><A NAME="12707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012708.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012709.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012710.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012711.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012712.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3040] include missing	hid-logitech-dj HID driver (mga#4129)
+</A><A NAME="12712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012713.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xorg-x11-7.6-6.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012714.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012715.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012716.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012717.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012718.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012719.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system bugs
+</A><A NAME="12719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012720.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012721.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system bugs
+</A><A NAME="12721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012722.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [220840] new version 4.8.1
+</A><A NAME="12722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012723.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system bugs
+</A><A NAME="12723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012724.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012725.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012726.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012727.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012728.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012729.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012730.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012731.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire REVILLET
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012732.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012733.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012734.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012735.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	p-uae-2.3.3-0.20120229git.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012736.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012737.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012738.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012739.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012740.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012741.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="12741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012742.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012743.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012744.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012745.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012747.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012746.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	p-uae-2.3.3-0.20120229git.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012748.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012749.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012750.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Z&#233;zinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012751.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	lxdm-0.4.1-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012752.html">[Mageia-dev] Gtk+3.0 bindings API break, what to do?
+</A><A NAME="12752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012753.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012754.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012755.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012756.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012757.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012758.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012759.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012760.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012761.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012762.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012763.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012764.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012765.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012766.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012767.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012768.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012769.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012770.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012771.html">[Mageia-dev] Release_blocker bugs
+</A><A NAME="12771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012772.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012773.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012775.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012774.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012776.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012777.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012778.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012779.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012780.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012781.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: libtorrent and rtorrent reverted to their stable	versions
+</A><A NAME="12781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012782.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012783.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012784.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012785.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012786.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012787.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012788.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012789.html">[Mageia-dev] Release_blocker bugs
+</A><A NAME="12789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012790.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012791.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012792.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012793.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012794.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012795.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012796.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012797.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012798.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	kmod-virtualbox-4.1.8-17.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012799.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012800.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012801.html">[Mageia-dev] Release_blocker bugs
+</A><A NAME="12801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012802.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012803.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012804.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012805.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012806.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012807.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012808.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder
+</A><A NAME="12808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012809.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012810.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012811.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012812.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012813.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] no more mails from bugzilla?
+</A><A NAME="12813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012814.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache (was: Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release rutorrent-3.4-2.mga2)
+</A><A NAME="12814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012815.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache (was: Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release rutorrent-3.4-2.mga2)
+</A><A NAME="12815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012816.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012817.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012818.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012819.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012820.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012821.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012822.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Nonresponsive or absent package maintainers &amp; policy discussion
+</A><A NAME="12822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012823.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] no more mails from bugzilla?
+</A><A NAME="12823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012824.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012826.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012825.html">[Mageia-dev] plt compilation error
+</A><A NAME="12825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012827.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012828.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012829.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012830.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012831.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012832.html">[Mageia-dev] plt compilation error
+</A><A NAME="12832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012833.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012834.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012835.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012836.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012837.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012838.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012839.html">[Mageia-dev] plt compilation error
+</A><A NAME="12839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012840.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012841.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012842.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system bugs
+</A><A NAME="12842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012843.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012844.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012845.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012846.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012847.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012848.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012849.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012850.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012851.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012852.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012853.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012854.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012855.html">[Mageia-dev] Strings in bootloader.pot
+</A><A NAME="12855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012856.html">[Mageia-dev] Strings in bootloader.pot
+</A><A NAME="12856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012857.html">[Mageia-dev] Strings in bootloader.pot
+</A><A NAME="12857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012858.html">[Mageia-dev] Strings in bootloader.pot
+</A><A NAME="12858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012859.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	vlc-2.0.0-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012860.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="12860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012861.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3279] fixed the pot file so it	passes msgfmt
+</A><A NAME="12861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012862.html">[Mageia-dev] Package removal request
+</A><A NAME="12862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012863.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="12863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012864.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012865.html">[Mageia-dev] cleaning in core/updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="12865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012866.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012867.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012868.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012869.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012870.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: libtorrent and rtorrent reverted to their stable versions
+</A><A NAME="12870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012871.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012872.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012873.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012874.html">[Mageia-dev] cleaning in core/updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="12874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012875.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012876.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	otrs-3.1.2-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012877.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012878.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012879.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012880.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012881.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012882.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012883.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012884.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	mageia-release-2-0.5.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012885.html">[Mageia-dev] lvm2 initscript is marked as a config file...?
+</A><A NAME="12885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012886.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012887.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012888.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	mageia-release-2-0.5.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012889.html">[Mageia-dev] lvm2 initscript is marked as a config file...?
+</A><A NAME="12889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012890.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-Private] Consolidation of the spelling	tools in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="12890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012891.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012892.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012893.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012894.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012895.html">[Mageia-dev] package update request: gif2png
+</A><A NAME="12895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012896.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012897.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012898.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012899.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012900.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012901.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012902.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012903.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012904.html">[Mageia-dev] Release_blocker bugs
+</A><A NAME="12904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012905.html">[Mageia-dev] packagekit, gstreamer and urpmi
+</A><A NAME="12905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012906.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012907.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder
+</A><A NAME="12907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012908.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder
+</A><A NAME="12908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012909.html">[Mageia-dev] xonotic and nexuiz
+</A><A NAME="12909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012910.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012911.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="12911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012912.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="12912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012913.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012914.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012915.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012916.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012917.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012918.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012919.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012920.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012921.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012922.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012923.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder
+</A><A NAME="12923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012924.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012925.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012926.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012927.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012929.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012928.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012930.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012931.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012932.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012933.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012934.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012935.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012936.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012937.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012938.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="12938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>paiiou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012939.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="12939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012940.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012941.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012942.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="12942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012943.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012944.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012945.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012946.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012947.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012948.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012949.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012950.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012951.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012952.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012953.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012954.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012955.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012956.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012957.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012958.html">[Mageia-dev] xonotic and nexuiz
+</A><A NAME="12958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012959.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012960.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012961.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012962.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012963.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: version freeze and what it means for Mageia 1	updates
+</A><A NAME="12963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012964.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: version freeze and what it means for Mageia 1 updates
+</A><A NAME="12964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012965.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012966.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: libgdata 0.11.1 (security release)
+</A><A NAME="12966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012967.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: libgdata 0.11.1 (security release)
+</A><A NAME="12967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012968.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012969.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012970.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="12970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012971.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="12971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012972.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="12972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012973.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3417] Updating Spanish translation
+</A><A NAME="12973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012974.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: GConf 3.2.5
+</A><A NAME="12974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012975.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="12975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012976.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: libgdata 0.11.1 (security release)
+</A><A NAME="12976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012977.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: libgdata 0.11.1 (security release)
+</A><A NAME="12977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012978.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012979.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="12979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012980.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012981.html">[Mageia-dev] Python3 modules
+</A><A NAME="12981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012982.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012983.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3424] convert to utf8
+</A><A NAME="12983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012984.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3424] convert to utf8
+</A><A NAME="12984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012985.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpm-helper
+</A><A NAME="12985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012986.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012987.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012988.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012989.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012990.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012991.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012992.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpm-helper
+</A><A NAME="12992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012994.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012993.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012995.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012996.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012997.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3428] Get rid of ERR log level
+</A><A NAME="12997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012998.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012999.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="12999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013000.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3428] Get rid of ERR log level
+</A><A NAME="13000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013001.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013002.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013003.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013005.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013004.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="13004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013006.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="13006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013007.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: GConf 3.2.5
+</A><A NAME="13007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013009.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: GConf 3.2.5
+</A><A NAME="13009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013008.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013010.html">[Mageia-dev] Pulseaudio push vs version freeze
+</A><A NAME="13010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013011.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013012.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-Private] Consolidation of the spelling	tools in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013013.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013014.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013015.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="13015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013016.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013017.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013018.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013019.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013020.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013021.html">[Mageia-dev] Pulseaudio push vs version freeze
+</A><A NAME="13021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013022.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-Private] Consolidation of the spelling	tools in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013023.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4, kdevelop4-php,	kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013024.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013025.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: version freeze and what it means for Mageia 1	updates
+</A><A NAME="13025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013026.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="13026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013029.html">[Mageia-dev] Mgaqueue, a small queue for BS
+</A><A NAME="13029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013027.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia-release's release notes are empty
+</A><A NAME="13027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013028.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia-release's release notes are empty
+</A><A NAME="13028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013030.html">[Mageia-dev] Mgaqueue, a small queue for BS
+</A><A NAME="13030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013031.html">[Mageia-dev] Mgaqueue, a small queue for BS
+</A><A NAME="13031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013032.html">[Mageia-dev] Is this intentional?
+</A><A NAME="13032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013033.html">[Mageia-dev] Is this intentional?
+</A><A NAME="13033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013034.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi
+</A><A NAME="13034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Armando B.
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013035.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi
+</A><A NAME="13035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013036.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: openssl
+</A><A NAME="13036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013037.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: openssl
+</A><A NAME="13037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013038.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-13.92-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013039.html">[Mageia-dev] Odd Window framing in curses part of install
+</A><A NAME="13039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013040.html">[Mageia-dev] Odd Window framing in curses part of install
+</A><A NAME="13040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013041.html">[Mageia-dev] Odd Window framing in curses part of install
+</A><A NAME="13041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013042.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-stage2-13.94
+</A><A NAME="13042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013043.html">[Mageia-dev] Odd Window framing in curses part of install
+</A><A NAME="13043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013044.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-stage2-13.94
+</A><A NAME="13044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013045.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-stage2-13.94
+</A><A NAME="13045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013046.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-images &amp;	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013047.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: microcode
+</A><A NAME="13047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013048.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-images &amp;	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013049.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: microcode
+</A><A NAME="13049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013050.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013051.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4,	kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013052.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013053.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013054.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013055.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013056.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xguest-1.0.10-6.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013057.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013058.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="13058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013059.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013060.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013061.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013062.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013063.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013064.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13064">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013065.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13065">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013066.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13066">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013067.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13067">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013068.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="13068">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013069.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013070.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's package
+</A><A NAME="13070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013096.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: cpuid
+</A><A NAME="13096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013071.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013072.html">[Mageia-dev] March 13th, 2012 VirtualBox 4.1.10 released!
+</A><A NAME="13072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013073.html">[Mageia-dev] March 13th, 2012 VirtualBox 4.1.10 released!
+</A><A NAME="13073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013074.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013078.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013075.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013076.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013077.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13077">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013079.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013080.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013081.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13081">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013082.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13082">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013083.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13083">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013084.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013085.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013086.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013087.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013088.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3457] add html file, images and css
+</A><A NAME="13088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013089.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013099.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin
+</A><A NAME="13099">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013090.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3457] add html file, images and css
+</A><A NAME="13090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013091.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="13091">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013092.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13092">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013093.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13093">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013094.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13094">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013095.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13095">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013097.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Dealing with GTK 3.3.18 scrolling handling	changes for GNOME 3.4
+</A><A NAME="13097">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013098.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13098">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013100.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin
+</A><A NAME="13100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013101.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Dealing with GTK 3.3.18 scrolling handling changes for GNOME 3.4
+</A><A NAME="13101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013102.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013103.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-stage2-13.94
+</A><A NAME="13103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013104.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013105.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3484] SILENT : bump VERSION (in	Makefile)
+</A><A NAME="13105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013106.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3484] SILENT : bump VERSION (in Makefile)
+</A><A NAME="13106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013107.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3484] SILENT : bump VERSION (in Makefile)
+</A><A NAME="13107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013108.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>n54 at gmx.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013109.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013110.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: cpuid
+</A><A NAME="13110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013111.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013113.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: cpuid
+</A><A NAME="13113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013112.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013114.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013115.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3483] - stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org ( mga#1590)
+</A><A NAME="13115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013116.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013117.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3483] - stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org ( mga#1590)
+</A><A NAME="13117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013118.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013119.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013120.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013121.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013122.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3526] make clean-rpmsrate 11. 5% faster on average on cached repo directory by
+</A><A NAME="13122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013123.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013124.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3526] make clean-rpmsrate 11. 5% faster on average on cached repo directory by
+</A><A NAME="13124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013125.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013126.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013127.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013128.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013129.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push openvpn
+</A><A NAME="13129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013130.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013131.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013132.html">[Mageia-dev] Sysadmin please remove from cauldron maniadrive-data
+</A><A NAME="13132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013133.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013134.html">[Mageia-dev] kmail losing e-mails ?
+</A><A NAME="13134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013135.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013136.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013137.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013138.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013139.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers team elections
+</A><A NAME="13139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013140.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013141.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013142.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mariadb (beta)
+</A><A NAME="13142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013143.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013144.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013145.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013146.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm: [211805] Split themes and i18n as	stand-alone packages
+</A><A NAME="13146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013147.html">[Mageia-dev] php pear mga2 upgrade issues (file conflicts)
+</A><A NAME="13147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013148.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd network.service issues
+</A><A NAME="13148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013149.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013150.html">[Mageia-dev] php pear mga2 upgrade issues (file conflicts)
+</A><A NAME="13150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013151.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013152.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013153.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13153">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013154.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13154">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013155.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13155">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013156.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13156">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013157.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13157">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013158.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13158">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013159.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13159">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013160.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13160">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederik Himpe
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013161.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13161">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013162.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13162">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013163.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13163">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013164.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13164">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013165.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd network.service issues
+</A><A NAME="13165">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013166.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd network.service issues
+</A><A NAME="13166">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013167.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013168.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push openvpn
+</A><A NAME="13168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013169.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd network.service issues
+</A><A NAME="13169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013170.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013171.html">[Mageia-dev] [systemd error flag] Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013172.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013173.html">[Mageia-dev] [systemd error flag] Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013174.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013175.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13175">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013176.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013177.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mariadb (beta)
+</A><A NAME="13177">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013178.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013179.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013180.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13180">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013181.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push openvpn
+</A><A NAME="13181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013182.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker, perl-URPM
+</A><A NAME="13182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013183.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker, perl-URPM
+</A><A NAME="13183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013184.html">[Mageia-dev] [bugs] [Bug 3466] Add radeon-firmware in the Isos or add radeon.modeset=0 option
+</A><A NAME="13184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013185.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13185">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013186.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker, perl-URPM
+</A><A NAME="13186">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013187.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker, perl-URPM
+</A><A NAME="13187">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013188.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox 11?
+</A><A NAME="13188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013189.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox 11?
+</A><A NAME="13189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013190.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4,	kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013191.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: minitube
+</A><A NAME="13191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013192.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: fsarchiver
+</A><A NAME="13192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013193.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013194.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013195.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013196.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013197.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013198.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013199.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013200.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13200">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013201.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13201">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013202.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13202">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013203.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13203">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013204.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13204">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013205.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13205">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013206.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13206">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013207.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13207">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013208.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013209.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013210.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4,	kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013211.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013212.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd 44
+</A><A NAME="13212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013213.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013214.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013215.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd 44
+</A><A NAME="13215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013216.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013217.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013218.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013219.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4, kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013220.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013221.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4, kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013222.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013223.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013225.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm db issues
+</A><A NAME="13225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Scott Chevalley
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013224.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013226.html">[Mageia-dev] [692] - import stage1/drakxtools mips support
+</A><A NAME="13226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013227.html">[Mageia-dev] [692] - import stage1/drakxtools mips support
+</A><A NAME="13227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Arnaud Patard (Rtp)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013231.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="13231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013229.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm db issues
+</A><A NAME="13229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013228.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd 44
+</A><A NAME="13228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013230.html">[Mageia-dev] [692] - import stage1/drakxtools mips support
+</A><A NAME="13230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013232.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	ldetect-0.12.1-5.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013233.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker
+</A><A NAME="13233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013234.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	ldetect-0.12.1-5.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013235.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="13235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013236.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker
+</A><A NAME="13236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013237.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013238.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: urpmi
+</A><A NAME="13238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013239.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="13239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013240.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: udisks2
+</A><A NAME="13240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013241.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013242.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013243.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: gdm pam changes
+</A><A NAME="13243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013244.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: gdm pam changes
+</A><A NAME="13244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013245.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: gdm pam changes
+</A><A NAME="13245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013246.html">[Mageia-dev] Banshee 2.4.0 security push
+</A><A NAME="13246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013247.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging help for GDM+GNOME Mageia background	(long)
+</A><A NAME="13247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013248.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013249.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: vlc-2.0.1
+</A><A NAME="13249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013250.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: vlc-2.0.1
+</A><A NAME="13250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013251.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="13251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013252.html">[Mageia-dev] xfce still using iaora
+</A><A NAME="13252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013253.html">[Mageia-dev] cgroup on the desktop
+</A><A NAME="13253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013254.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="13254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013255.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013256.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="13256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013257.html">[Mageia-dev] lm_sensors update for newer kernels
+</A><A NAME="13257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013258.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013259.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libdvdcss
+</A><A NAME="13259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013260.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-applet update for KDE 4.8.1
+</A><A NAME="13260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013261.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers team elections
+</A><A NAME="13261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013262.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers team elections
+</A><A NAME="13262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013263.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers team elections
+</A><A NAME="13263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013264.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers election
+</A><A NAME="13264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013265.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="13265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013266.html">[Mageia-dev] bumblebee software and packages
+</A><A NAME="13266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013267.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-10.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013268.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-10.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013269.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	oxygen-gtk-1.2.1-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013270.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013271.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013272.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013273.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013274.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013275.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013276.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013277.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013278.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Reviving AppStream and current status
+</A><A NAME="13278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013279.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013280.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013281.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: icedtea-web
+</A><A NAME="13281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013282.html">[Mageia-dev] Pleash push postfix
+</A><A NAME="13282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013283.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer stage2
+</A><A NAME="13283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013284.html">[Mageia-dev] bumblebee software and packages
+</A><A NAME="13284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013285.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with	drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013286.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013287.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libtasn1, gnutls
+</A><A NAME="13287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013288.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with	drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013289.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013290.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: icedtea-web
+</A><A NAME="13290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013291.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer stage2
+</A><A NAME="13291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013292.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libtasn1, gnutls
+</A><A NAME="13292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013293.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: fsarchiver
+</A><A NAME="13293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013294.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: minitube
+</A><A NAME="13294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013295.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013296.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013297.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013298.html">[Mageia-dev] Pleash push postfix
+</A><A NAME="13298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013299.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer stage2
+</A><A NAME="13299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013300.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: fsarchiver
+</A><A NAME="13300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013301.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: minitube
+</A><A NAME="13301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013302.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi
+</A><A NAME="13302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Tartavel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013303.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013304.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013305.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013306.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi
+</A><A NAME="13306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Sj&#246;lin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013307.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013308.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013309.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013310.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013311.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 116
+</A><A NAME="13311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Brett
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013313.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi (David Sj?lin)
+</A><A NAME="13313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>brett
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013312.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013314.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013315.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze pus: firefox
+</A><A NAME="13315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013316.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze pus: firefox
+</A><A NAME="13316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013317.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze pus: firefox
+</A><A NAME="13317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013318.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013319.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013320.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze pus: firefox
+</A><A NAME="13320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013321.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013322.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013323.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013324.html">[Mageia-dev] cgroup on the desktop
+</A><A NAME="13324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013325.html">[Mageia-dev] cgroup on the desktop
+</A><A NAME="13325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013327.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013326.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013328.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi (David Sj?lin)
+</A><A NAME="13328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013329.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request: urpmi-proxy-0.3.2
+</A><A NAME="13329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013330.html">[Mageia-dev] Tracker for security updates
+</A><A NAME="13330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013331.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013332.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13332">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013333.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13333">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013334.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13334">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013335.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13335">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013336.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13336">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013340.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13340">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013337.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libdvdcss
+</A><A NAME="13337">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013338.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13338">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013339.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13339">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013341.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13341">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013342.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13342">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013343.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13343">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013344.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-24.b24.12.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13344">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013345.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13345">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013346.html">[Mageia-dev] lm_sensors update for newer kernels (tmb)
+</A><A NAME="13346">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013347.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13347">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013348.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13348">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013349.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13349">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013350.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push
+</A><A NAME="13350">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013351.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libpng12-1.2.48
+</A><A NAME="13351">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013352.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push
+</A><A NAME="13352">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013353.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13353">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013354.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libpng12-1.2.48
+</A><A NAME="13354">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013355.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13355">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013356.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: mesa
+</A><A NAME="13356">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013357.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13357">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013359.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13359">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013358.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13358">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013360.html">[Mageia-dev] rescue has mount.nfs, but no statd
+</A><A NAME="13360">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013361.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13361">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013362.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13362">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013363.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13363">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013364.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13364">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013365.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13365">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013366.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13366">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013367.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13367">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013368.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: mesa
+</A><A NAME="13368">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013369.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13369">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013370.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13370">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013377.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013371.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13371">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013372.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013373.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and rebuild	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013374.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Banshee 2.4.0 security push
+</A><A NAME="13374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013375.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013376.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013378.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013379.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013380.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013381.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013382.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013383.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013384.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013385.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013386.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013387.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013388.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013389.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia on Raspberry-Pi (ARM port)
+</A><A NAME="13389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>brett
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013390.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and rebuild drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013391.html">[Mageia-dev] New strings in drakx and urpmi - please do warn i18n
+</A><A NAME="13391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013392.html">[Mageia-dev] New strings in drakx and urpmi - please do warn	i18n
+</A><A NAME="13392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013393.html">[Mageia-dev] New strings in drakx and urpmi - please do warn	i18n
+</A><A NAME="13393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013394.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013395.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013396.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013397.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013398.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia on Raspberry-Pi (ARM port)
+</A><A NAME="13398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013399.html">[Mageia-dev] rescue has mount.nfs, but no statd
+</A><A NAME="13399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013400.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013401.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: autojump
+</A><A NAME="13401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013402.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013403.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-net
+</A><A NAME="13403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013404.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-net
+</A><A NAME="13404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013405.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013406.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013407.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013408.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug off!
+</A><A NAME="13408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013409.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013410.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013411.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013412.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013413.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013414.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013415.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013416.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013417.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013418.html">[Mageia-dev] [push] gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
+</A><A NAME="13418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013419.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013420.html">[Mageia-dev] [push] gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
+</A><A NAME="13420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013421.html">[Mageia-dev] New security issues affect libzip and php (freeze push	will be needed)
+</A><A NAME="13421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013422.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013423.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013424.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013425.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013426.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013427.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013428.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push
+</A><A NAME="13428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013429.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013430.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013431.html">[Mageia-dev] [push] gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
+</A><A NAME="13431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013432.html">[Mageia-dev] New security issues affect libzip and php (freeze push will be needed)
+</A><A NAME="13432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013433.html">[Mageia-dev] New security issues affect libzip and php (freeze push will be needed)
+</A><A NAME="13433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013436.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] compiz 0.9.7.2
+</A><A NAME="13436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013434.html">[Mageia-dev] rescue has mount.nfs, but no statd
+</A><A NAME="13434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013435.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013437.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013438.html">[Mageia-dev] [push] gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
+</A><A NAME="13438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013439.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013440.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013443.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug off!
+</A><A NAME="13443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Karel Roth
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013441.html">[Mageia-dev] rescue has mount.nfs, but no statd
+</A><A NAME="13441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013442.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013444.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013445.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013446.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013447.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB: problem: final estimated release date
+</A><A NAME="13447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013448.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB: problem: final estimated release date
+</A><A NAME="13448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013449.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakxtools and drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013450.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakxtools and drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013451.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakxtools and drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013452.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakxtools and drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013453.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013454.html">[Mageia-dev] mf2pt1
+</A><A NAME="13454">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013455.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: raptor2
+</A><A NAME="13455">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013456.html">[Mageia-dev] reeze push: drakconf
+</A><A NAME="13456">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013457.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13457">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013458.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: raptor2
+</A><A NAME="13458">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013459.html">[Mageia-dev] mf2pt1
+</A><A NAME="13459">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013461.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] compiz 0.9.7.2
+</A><A NAME="13461">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013460.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13460">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013462.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13462">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013463.html">[Mageia-dev] mf2pt1
+</A><A NAME="13463">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013464.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13464">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013465.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13465">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013466.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13466">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013467.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13467">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013468.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and rebuild drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13468">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013469.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13469">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013470.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013471.html">[Mageia-dev] MTRR problem
+</A><A NAME="13471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013472.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] compiz 0.9.7.2
+</A><A NAME="13472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013473.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013474.html">[Mageia-dev] reeze push: drakconf
+</A><A NAME="13474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013475.html">[Mageia-dev] reeze push: drakconf
+</A><A NAME="13475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013476.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and	rebuild	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013477.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013478.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push request: scite
+</A><A NAME="13478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matteo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013479.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013480.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and rebuild	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013481.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and	rebuild	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013482.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013483.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013484.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013485.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug squash party update
+</A><A NAME="13485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013486.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013487.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013488.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug squash party update
+</A><A NAME="13488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013489.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug squash party update
+</A><A NAME="13489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013490.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013491.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013492.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13492">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013493.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13493">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013494.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13494">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013495.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help
+</A><A NAME="13495">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013501.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13501">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013496.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13496">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013497.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13497">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013498.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013499.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013500.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013502.html">[Mageia-dev] libgphoto version: freeze buster?
+</A><A NAME="13502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013503.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013504.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013505.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013506.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013507.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push request: scite
+</A><A NAME="13507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013508.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013509.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013510.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013511.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013512.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013513.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013514.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013515.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013516.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013517.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013518.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013519.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013520.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013521.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB: problem: final estimated release date
+</A><A NAME="13521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013522.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13522">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013523.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: udisks2
+</A><A NAME="13523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013524.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: udisks2
+</A><A NAME="13524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013525.html">[Mageia-dev] Too late for this ? (cairo 1.12)
+</A><A NAME="13525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013526.html">[Mageia-dev] Too late for this ? (cairo 1.12)
+</A><A NAME="13526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013527.html">[Mageia-dev] Too late for this ? (cairo 1.12)
+</A><A NAME="13527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013528.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="13528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013529.html">[Mageia-dev] Too late for this ? (cairo 1.12)
+</A><A NAME="13529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013530.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="13530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013531.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker
+</A><A NAME="13531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013532.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker
+</A><A NAME="13532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013533.html">[Mageia-dev] How should packages with version in name be handled?
+</A><A NAME="13533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013534.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013535.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013536.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013537.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug squash party update
+</A><A NAME="13537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013538.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013539.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB: problem: final estimated release date
+</A><A NAME="13539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013540.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013541.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013542.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013543.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3800] (plog_init) enable	perl_checker to check callers
+</A><A NAME="13543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013544.html">[Mageia-dev] How should packages with version in name be	handled?
+</A><A NAME="13544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013545.html">[Mageia-dev] libgphoto version: freeze buster?
+</A><A NAME="13545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013546.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013547.html">[Mageia-dev] libgphoto version: freeze buster?
+</A><A NAME="13547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013548.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013549.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3800] (plog_init) enable perl_checker to check callers
+</A><A NAME="13549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013550.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013551.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013552.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013553.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013554.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013555.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013556.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013557.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: urpmi &amp; rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013558.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: urpmi &amp; rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013560.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: syntek
+</A><A NAME="13560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013559.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: syntek
+</A><A NAME="13559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013561.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: syntek
+</A><A NAME="13561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013562.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: opera-11.62
+</A><A NAME="13562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013563.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: opera-11.62
+</A><A NAME="13563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013564.html">[Mageia-dev] New security issues affect libzip and php (freeze	push will be needed)
+</A><A NAME="13564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013565.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013566.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: sympa
+</A><A NAME="13566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013567.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: sympa
+</A><A NAME="13567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013568.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013569.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013570.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013571.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing in Action - 3G F5521gw
+</A><A NAME="13571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013572.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013574.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013573.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013575.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013576.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013577.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin 2.10.3
+</A><A NAME="13577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013578.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing in Action - 3G F5521gw
+</A><A NAME="13578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013579.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	gdm-3.4.0.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013580.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013581.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	gdm-3.4.0.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013582.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013583.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	gdm-3.4.0.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013589.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013587.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin 2.10.3
+</A><A NAME="13587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013584.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013585.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin 2.10.3
+</A><A NAME="13585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013586.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: autojump
+</A><A NAME="13586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013588.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: pidgin-sipe
+</A><A NAME="13588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013590.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013591.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013592.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013593.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013594.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013595.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013596.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013597.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013598.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013599.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013600.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013601.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013602.html">[Mageia-dev] Old library packages left on system after upgrade
+</A><A NAME="13602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013604.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libzip (security update)
+</A><A NAME="13604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013603.html">[Mageia-dev] Old library packages left on system after upgrade
+</A><A NAME="13603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013605.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013606.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013623.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push, liferea 1.8.4
+</A><A NAME="13623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013607.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013608.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing in Action - 3G F5521gw
+</A><A NAME="13608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013609.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libzip (security update)
+</A><A NAME="13609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013610.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013611.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libzip (security update)
+</A><A NAME="13611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013612.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013613.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mpg123
+</A><A NAME="13613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013614.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013615.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013616.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mpg123
+</A><A NAME="13616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013617.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: maradns
+</A><A NAME="13617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013618.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: maradns
+</A><A NAME="13618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013619.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013620.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libzip (security update)
+</A><A NAME="13620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013621.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013622.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013624.html">[Mageia-dev] Shutdown button by default in Mageia 2 Gnome request
+</A><A NAME="13624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013625.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013626.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013627.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013628.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013629.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013630.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013631.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation issues
+</A><A NAME="13631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013632.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with	drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013633.html">[Mageia-dev] lm_sensors update for newer kernels (tmb)
+</A><A NAME="13633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013634.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013635.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with	drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013636.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013637.html">[Mageia-dev] php-channel-phpunit
+</A><A NAME="13637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013638.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013639.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013640.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013646.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: pidgin-sipe
+</A><A NAME="13646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013641.html">[Mageia-dev] Shutdown button by default in Mageia 2 Gnome	request
+</A><A NAME="13641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013642.html">[Mageia-dev] Shutdown button by default in Mageia 2 Gnome	request
+</A><A NAME="13642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013643.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013644.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape	for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013645.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013743.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape	for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013653.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013647.html">[Mageia-dev] about gnome-python-gtkmozembed
+</A><A NAME="13647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013648.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013649.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013650.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013651.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013652.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013654.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013655.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013656.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013657.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013658.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013659.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013660.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013661.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013662.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: expat 2.1.0
+</A><A NAME="13662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013663.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013682.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push, liferea 1.8.4
+</A><A NAME="13682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013664.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013665.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013666.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: expat 2.1.0
+</A><A NAME="13666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013667.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013668.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013669.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Emmanuel Andry
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013670.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push : phpmyadmin
+</A><A NAME="13670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013671.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push : phpmyadmin
+</A><A NAME="13671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013672.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013673.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013674.html">[Mageia-dev] RFT: xen support
+</A><A NAME="13674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013675.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013676.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013677.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013678.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013679.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013680.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013681.html">[Mageia-dev]  Freeze push: mariadb (rc)
+</A><A NAME="13681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013683.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eugeni Dodonov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013684.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013685.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013686.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013687.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013688.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013689.html">[Mageia-dev] mga1 rebuild
+</A><A NAME="13689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013690.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mariadb (rc)
+</A><A NAME="13690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013691.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013692.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013693.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mariadb (rc)
+</A><A NAME="13693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013694.html">[Mageia-dev] mga1 rebuild
+</A><A NAME="13694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013695.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andres Kaaber
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013696.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013697.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013698.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013699.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013700.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013701.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013702.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013703.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: pidgin-sipe
+</A><A NAME="13703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013704.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013705.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013706.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013707.html">[Mageia-dev] php pear mga2 upgrade issues (file conflicts)
+</A><A NAME="13707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013708.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013709.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013710.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013711.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013712.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013713.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013714.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013715.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013716.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013717.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013718.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013719.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013720.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013721.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013722.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013723.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013724.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013725.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013726.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013727.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013728.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013729.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013730.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013731.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive need mf2pt1
+</A><A NAME="13731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013732.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013733.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013734.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013735.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013736.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013737.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013738.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013739.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013805.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: magpie
+</A><A NAME="13805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013740.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013741.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push, liferea 1.8.4
+</A><A NAME="13741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013742.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013744.html">[Mageia-dev] Servers downtime
+</A><A NAME="13744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013745.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013746.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013747.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013748.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013749.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013750.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013751.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013752.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013753.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013754.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013755.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013756.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013757.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013758.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013759.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013760.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013761.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013762.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013763.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013764.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013765.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013766.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013767.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+    </ul>
+    <p>
+      <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> 
+       <i>Sat Mar 31 21:33:25 CEST 2012</i><br>
+    <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 16:48:19 CEST 2012</i>
+    <p>
+   <ul>
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+		<a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+		<a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+		
+	     <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+                    </a></b></li>
+     </ul>
+     <p>
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+      <h1>March 2012 Archives by subject</h1>
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+      <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Mar  1 07:42:41 CET 2012</i><br>
+         <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Mar 31 21:33:25 CEST 2012</i><br>
+         <b>Messages:</b> 1318<p>
+     <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013226.html">[Mageia-dev] [692] - import stage1/drakxtools mips support
+</A><A NAME="13226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013227.html">[Mageia-dev] [692] - import stage1/drakxtools mips support
+</A><A NAME="13227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Arnaud Patard (Rtp)
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013230.html">[Mageia-dev] [692] - import stage1/drakxtools mips support
+</A><A NAME="13230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013184.html">[Mageia-dev] [bugs] [Bug 3466] Add radeon-firmware in the Isos or add radeon.modeset=0 option
+</A><A NAME="13184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013271.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013160.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13160">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederik Himpe
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012819.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013038.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-13.92-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013473.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013477.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013479.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013482.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013484.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012598.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	farstream-0.1.1-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013579.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	gdm-3.4.0.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013581.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	gdm-3.4.0.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013583.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	gdm-3.4.0.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013270.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013272.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013273.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012798.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	kmod-virtualbox-4.1.8-17.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013232.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	ldetect-0.12.1-5.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013234.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	ldetect-0.12.1-5.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012578.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libvirt-0.9.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012586.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libvirt-0.9.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012751.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	lxdm-0.4.1-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012884.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	mageia-release-2-0.5.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012888.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	mageia-release-2-0.5.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013151.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013155.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13155">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013170.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012876.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	otrs-3.1.2-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013269.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	oxygen-gtk-1.2.1-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012735.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	p-uae-2.3.3-0.20120229git.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012746.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	p-uae-2.3.3-0.20120229git.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012579.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012581.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012585.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012608.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012610.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012612.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012613.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012615.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012616.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012618.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012619.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012620.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012621.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012623.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012588.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	smplayer-0.7.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012986.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012988.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012989.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012991.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012996.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012731.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire REVILLET
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012732.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012733.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012734.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012740.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012742.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012756.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012758.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012762.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012763.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012617.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	urpmi-6.45-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012859.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	vlc-2.0.0-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013056.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xguest-1.0.10-6.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012713.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xorg-x11-7.6-6.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012990.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012994.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012809.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012810.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012827.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012830.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012831.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012886.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013370.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13370">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013371.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13371">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013406.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013407.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013409.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013412.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013414.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013429.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013648.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012811.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013251.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="13251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013254.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="13254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013256.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="13256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013265.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="13265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013344.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-24.b24.12.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13344">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013267.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-10.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013268.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-10.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013436.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] compiz 0.9.7.2
+</A><A NAME="13436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013461.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] compiz 0.9.7.2
+</A><A NAME="13461">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013472.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] compiz 0.9.7.2
+</A><A NAME="13472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013460.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13460">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013483.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013550.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013551.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013555.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012883.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012913.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012914.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012915.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012916.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012917.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012918.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012919.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012920.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012921.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012922.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012924.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012925.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012927.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012929.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012934.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012936.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012937.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012940.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012941.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012943.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012944.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012946.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012953.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012959.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012960.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012961.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012969.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012982.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012987.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012993.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012995.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012998.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013003.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013017.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013019.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013020.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R James
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013050.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013053.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013111.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013116.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013118.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013119.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013125.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013152.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013174.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013175.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13175">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013176.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012890.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-Private] Consolidation of the spelling	tools in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="12890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013012.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-Private] Consolidation of the spelling	tools in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013022.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-Private] Consolidation of the spelling	tools in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012813.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] no more mails from bugzilla?
+</A><A NAME="12813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012823.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] no more mails from bugzilla?
+</A><A NAME="12823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012722.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [220840] new version 4.8.1
+</A><A NAME="12722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013500.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013511.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013512.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013513.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013514.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013515.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013516.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013538.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013418.html">[Mageia-dev] [push] gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
+</A><A NAME="13418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013420.html">[Mageia-dev] [push] gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
+</A><A NAME="13420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013431.html">[Mageia-dev] [push] gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
+</A><A NAME="13431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013438.html">[Mageia-dev] [push] gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
+</A><A NAME="13438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013644.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape	for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013743.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape	for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013556.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013675.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013714.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013553.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013554.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013570.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013622.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013762.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012822.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Nonresponsive or absent package maintainers &amp; policy discussion
+</A><A NAME="12822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012712.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3040] include missing	hid-logitech-dj HID driver (mga#4129)
+</A><A NAME="12712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012627.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3193] Add missing backported commit
+</A><A NAME="12627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012628.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3193] Add missing backported commit
+</A><A NAME="12628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012861.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3279] fixed the pot file so it	passes msgfmt
+</A><A NAME="12861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012973.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3417] Updating Spanish translation
+</A><A NAME="12973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012983.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3424] convert to utf8
+</A><A NAME="12983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012984.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3424] convert to utf8
+</A><A NAME="12984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012997.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3428] Get rid of ERR log level
+</A><A NAME="12997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013000.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3428] Get rid of ERR log level
+</A><A NAME="13000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013079.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013081.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13081">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013082.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13082">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013085.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013087.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013102.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013088.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3457] add html file, images and css
+</A><A NAME="13088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013090.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3457] add html file, images and css
+</A><A NAME="13090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013115.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3483] - stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org ( mga#1590)
+</A><A NAME="13115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013117.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3483] - stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org ( mga#1590)
+</A><A NAME="13117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013105.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3484] SILENT : bump VERSION (in	Makefile)
+</A><A NAME="13105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013106.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3484] SILENT : bump VERSION (in Makefile)
+</A><A NAME="13106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013107.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3484] SILENT : bump VERSION (in Makefile)
+</A><A NAME="13107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013122.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3526] make clean-rpmsrate 11. 5% faster on average on cached repo directory by
+</A><A NAME="13122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013124.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3526] make clean-rpmsrate 11. 5% faster on average on cached repo directory by
+</A><A NAME="13124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013198.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013199.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013200.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13200">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013462.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13462">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013466.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13466">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013542.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013543.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3800] (plog_init) enable	perl_checker to check callers
+</A><A NAME="13543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013549.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3800] (plog_init) enable perl_checker to check callers
+</A><A NAME="13549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013171.html">[Mageia-dev] [systemd error flag] Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013173.html">[Mageia-dev] [systemd error flag] Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013647.html">[Mageia-dev] about gnome-python-gtkmozembed
+</A><A NAME="13647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012609.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding b43-openfwwf to default setup
+</A><A NAME="12609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012826.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012828.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012829.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012836.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012840.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012841.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012848.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012850.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012851.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012864.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012600.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: kernel-3.3-rc6 landing on Cauldron...
+</A><A NAME="12600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012614.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: kernel-3.3-rc6 landing on Cauldron...
+</A><A NAME="12614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012781.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: libtorrent and rtorrent reverted to their stable	versions
+</A><A NAME="12781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012870.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: libtorrent and rtorrent reverted to their stable versions
+</A><A NAME="12870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012963.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: version freeze and what it means for Mageia 1	updates
+</A><A NAME="12963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013025.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: version freeze and what it means for Mageia 1	updates
+</A><A NAME="13025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012964.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: version freeze and what it means for Mageia 1 updates
+</A><A NAME="12964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013201.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13201">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013203.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13203">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013208.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013224.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013242.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013274.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013275.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013246.html">[Mageia-dev] Banshee 2.4.0 security push
+</A><A NAME="13246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012459.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12459">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012460.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12460">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012462.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12462">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012463.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12463">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012464.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12464">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012465.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12465">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012469.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12469">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012945.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012947.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012948.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012949.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012950.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012952.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012551.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012552.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012553.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012555.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012556.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012557.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012558.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012559.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012566.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012567.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012573.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012602.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012601.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012603.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012634.html">[Mageia-dev]  BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012641.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012642.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012661.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012663.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012665.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012452.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012453.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012455.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12455">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012456.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12456">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012483.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013408.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug off!
+</A><A NAME="13408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013443.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug off!
+</A><A NAME="13443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Karel Roth
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013485.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug squash party update
+</A><A NAME="13485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013488.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug squash party update
+</A><A NAME="13488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013489.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug squash party update
+</A><A NAME="13489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013537.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug squash party update
+</A><A NAME="13537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012719.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system bugs
+</A><A NAME="12719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012721.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system bugs
+</A><A NAME="12721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012723.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system bugs
+</A><A NAME="12723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012842.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system bugs
+</A><A NAME="12842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013266.html">[Mageia-dev] bumblebee software and packages
+</A><A NAME="13266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013284.html">[Mageia-dev] bumblebee software and packages
+</A><A NAME="13284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012860.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="12860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012863.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="12863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012999.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="12999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013015.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="13015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013235.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="13235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013253.html">[Mageia-dev] cgroup on the desktop
+</A><A NAME="13253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013324.html">[Mageia-dev] cgroup on the desktop
+</A><A NAME="13324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013325.html">[Mageia-dev] cgroup on the desktop
+</A><A NAME="13325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012865.html">[Mageia-dev] cleaning in core/updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="12865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012874.html">[Mageia-dev] cleaning in core/updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="12874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012466.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current	status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12466">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013754.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013755.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013756.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013757.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013758.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013759.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013763.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013766.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012911.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="12911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012912.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="12912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012938.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="12938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>paiiou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012939.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="12939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013026.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="13026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012770.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012846.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012852.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012853.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012854.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012866.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012867.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012869.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012871.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012872.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012873.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012879.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012880.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012725.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012726.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012727.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012728.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012729.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012730.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012736.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012737.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012738.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012739.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012743.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012744.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012745.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012747.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012748.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012750.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Z&#233;zinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012754.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012757.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012759.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012761.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012764.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012766.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012767.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012775.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012778.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012782.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012783.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012784.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012785.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012786.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012787.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012790.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012791.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012793.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012796.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012800.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012802.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012804.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012812.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012818.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012821.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012824.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012849.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012878.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012881.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012882.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012887.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012891.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012897.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012900.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012906.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012673.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012675.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012677.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012678.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012692.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012693.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012694.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012709.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012710.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012714.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012720.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013676.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013678.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013680.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013695.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andres Kaaber
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013696.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013702.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013735.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013738.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012583.html">[Mageia-dev] Errors/warning from drakxtools-13.89.1
+</A><A NAME="12583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012584.html">[Mageia-dev] Errors/warning from drakxtools-13.89.1
+</A><A NAME="12584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012470.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012471.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012472.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012473.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012474.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012475.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012476.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012477.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012478.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012479.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012480.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012481.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012482.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012501.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12501">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012520.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012531.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012532.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012534.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012535.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012550.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012899.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013074.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013075.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013076.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013077.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13077">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013080.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013083.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13083">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013084.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013086.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013089.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013092.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13092">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013093.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13093">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013094.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13094">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013095.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13095">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012484.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012485.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012486.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012487.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012495.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12495">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013188.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox 11?
+</A><A NAME="13188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013189.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox 11?
+</A><A NAME="13189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012454.html">[Mageia-dev] fontconfig rules of google droid fonts
+</A><A NAME="12454">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012457.html">[Mageia-dev] fontconfig rules of google droid fonts
+</A><A NAME="12457">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012458.html">[Mageia-dev] fontconfig rules of google droid fonts
+</A><A NAME="12458">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012461.html">[Mageia-dev] fontconfig rules of google droid fonts
+</A><A NAME="12461">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013465.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13465">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013467.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13467">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013469.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13469">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013470.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013493.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13493">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013536.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013540.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013315.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze pus: firefox
+</A><A NAME="13315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013316.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze pus: firefox
+</A><A NAME="13316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013317.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze pus: firefox
+</A><A NAME="13317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013320.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze pus: firefox
+</A><A NAME="13320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013495.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help
+</A><A NAME="13495">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013476.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and	rebuild	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013481.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and	rebuild	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013373.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and rebuild	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013480.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and rebuild	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013390.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and rebuild drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013468.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and rebuild drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13468">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013670.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push : phpmyadmin
+</A><A NAME="13670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013671.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push : phpmyadmin
+</A><A NAME="13671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013108.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>n54 at gmx.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013114.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013128.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013130.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013136.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013137.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013138.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013140.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013141.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013143.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013153.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13153">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013157.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13157">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013534.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012954.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012955.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012957.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012965.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012968.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012980.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013005.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013011.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013016.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013018.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013024.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013491.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013498.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013499.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013506.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013508.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013478.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push request: scite
+</A><A NAME="13478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matteo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013507.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push request: scite
+</A><A NAME="13507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013329.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request: urpmi-proxy-0.3.2
+</A><A NAME="13329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013623.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push, liferea 1.8.4
+</A><A NAME="13623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013682.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push, liferea 1.8.4
+</A><A NAME="13682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013741.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push, liferea 1.8.4
+</A><A NAME="13741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013401.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: autojump
+</A><A NAME="13401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013586.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: autojump
+</A><A NAME="13586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013374.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Banshee 2.4.0 security push
+</A><A NAME="13374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013096.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: cpuid
+</A><A NAME="13096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013110.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: cpuid
+</A><A NAME="13110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013113.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: cpuid
+</A><A NAME="13113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013283.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer stage2
+</A><A NAME="13283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013291.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer stage2
+</A><A NAME="13291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013299.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer stage2
+</A><A NAME="13299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013001.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013002.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013008.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013013.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013014.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013046.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-images &amp;	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013048.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-images &amp;	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013042.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-stage2-13.94
+</A><A NAME="13042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013044.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-stage2-13.94
+</A><A NAME="13044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013045.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-stage2-13.94
+</A><A NAME="13045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013103.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-stage2-13.94
+</A><A NAME="13103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013403.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-net
+</A><A NAME="13403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013404.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-net
+</A><A NAME="13404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013449.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakxtools and drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013450.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakxtools and drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013451.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakxtools and drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013452.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakxtools and drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013662.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: expat 2.1.0
+</A><A NAME="13662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013666.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: expat 2.1.0
+</A><A NAME="13666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013193.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013211.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013213.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013214.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013217.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013052.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013054.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013055.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013098.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13098">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013109.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013112.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013258.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013332.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13332">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013415.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013519.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013612.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013614.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013192.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: fsarchiver
+</A><A NAME="13192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013293.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: fsarchiver
+</A><A NAME="13293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013300.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: fsarchiver
+</A><A NAME="13300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013281.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: icedtea-web
+</A><A NAME="13281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013290.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: icedtea-web
+</A><A NAME="13290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013051.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4,	kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013190.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4,	kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013210.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4,	kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013023.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4, kdevelop4-php,	kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013219.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4, kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013221.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4, kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013259.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libdvdcss
+</A><A NAME="13259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013337.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libdvdcss
+</A><A NAME="13337">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013327.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013335.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13335">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013340.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13340">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013552.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013574.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013580.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013589.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013653.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013654.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013568.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013569.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013591.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013592.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013593.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013595.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013596.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013597.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013598.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013599.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013634.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013638.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013639.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013645.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013685.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013686.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013687.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013688.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013721.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013726.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013730.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013734.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013747.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013351.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libpng12-1.2.48
+</A><A NAME="13351">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013354.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libpng12-1.2.48
+</A><A NAME="13354">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013287.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libtasn1, gnutls
+</A><A NAME="13287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013292.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libtasn1, gnutls
+</A><A NAME="13292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013604.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libzip (security update)
+</A><A NAME="13604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013609.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libzip (security update)
+</A><A NAME="13609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013611.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libzip (security update)
+</A><A NAME="13611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013620.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libzip (security update)
+</A><A NAME="13620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013805.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: magpie
+</A><A NAME="13805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013617.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: maradns
+</A><A NAME="13617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013618.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: maradns
+</A><A NAME="13618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013142.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mariadb (beta)
+</A><A NAME="13142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013177.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mariadb (beta)
+</A><A NAME="13177">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013681.html">[Mageia-dev]  Freeze push: mariadb (rc)
+</A><A NAME="13681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013690.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mariadb (rc)
+</A><A NAME="13690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013693.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mariadb (rc)
+</A><A NAME="13693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013356.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: mesa
+</A><A NAME="13356">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013368.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: mesa
+</A><A NAME="13368">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013047.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: microcode
+</A><A NAME="13047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013049.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: microcode
+</A><A NAME="13049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013191.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: minitube
+</A><A NAME="13191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013294.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: minitube
+</A><A NAME="13294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013301.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: minitube
+</A><A NAME="13301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013613.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mpg123
+</A><A NAME="13613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013616.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mpg123
+</A><A NAME="13616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013172.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013204.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13204">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013205.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13205">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013206.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13206">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013207.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13207">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013036.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: openssl
+</A><A NAME="13036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013037.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: openssl
+</A><A NAME="13037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013562.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: opera-11.62
+</A><A NAME="13562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013563.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: opera-11.62
+</A><A NAME="13563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013233.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker
+</A><A NAME="13233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013236.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker
+</A><A NAME="13236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013531.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker
+</A><A NAME="13531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013532.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker
+</A><A NAME="13532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013182.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker, perl-URPM
+</A><A NAME="13182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013183.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker, perl-URPM
+</A><A NAME="13183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013186.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker, perl-URPM
+</A><A NAME="13186">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013187.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker, perl-URPM
+</A><A NAME="13187">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013099.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin
+</A><A NAME="13099">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013100.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin
+</A><A NAME="13100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013577.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin 2.10.3
+</A><A NAME="13577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013587.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin 2.10.3
+</A><A NAME="13587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013585.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin 2.10.3
+</A><A NAME="13585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013588.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: pidgin-sipe
+</A><A NAME="13588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013646.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: pidgin-sipe
+</A><A NAME="13646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013703.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: pidgin-sipe
+</A><A NAME="13703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013565.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013572.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013573.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013575.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013576.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013594.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013605.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013610.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013455.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: raptor2
+</A><A NAME="13455">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013458.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: raptor2
+</A><A NAME="13458">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012985.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpm-helper
+</A><A NAME="12985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012992.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpm-helper
+</A><A NAME="12992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013279.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013280.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013627.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013640.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013643.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012942.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="12942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012970.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="12970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012971.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="12971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012972.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="12972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013528.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="13528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013530.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="13530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013120.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013121.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013123.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013126.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013158.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13158">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013159.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13159">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013566.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: sympa
+</A><A NAME="13566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013567.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: sympa
+</A><A NAME="13567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013560.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: syntek
+</A><A NAME="13560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013559.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: syntek
+</A><A NAME="13559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013561.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: syntek
+</A><A NAME="13561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013241.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013289.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013295.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013296.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013297.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013372.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013378.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013380.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013194.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013195.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013196.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013197.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013333.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13333">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013334.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13334">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013336.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13336">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013338.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13338">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013339.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13339">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013343.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13343">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013353.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13353">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013240.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: udisks2
+</A><A NAME="13240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013523.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: udisks2
+</A><A NAME="13523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013524.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: udisks2
+</A><A NAME="13524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013238.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: urpmi
+</A><A NAME="13238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013557.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: urpmi &amp; rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013558.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: urpmi &amp; rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013249.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: vlc-2.0.1
+</A><A NAME="13249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013250.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: vlc-2.0.1
+</A><A NAME="13250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013582.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013584.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013601.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013606.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013625.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013097.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Dealing with GTK 3.3.18 scrolling handling	changes for GNOME 3.4
+</A><A NAME="13097">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013101.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Dealing with GTK 3.3.18 scrolling handling changes for GNOME 3.4
+</A><A NAME="13101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012974.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: GConf 3.2.5
+</A><A NAME="12974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013007.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: GConf 3.2.5
+</A><A NAME="13007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013009.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: GConf 3.2.5
+</A><A NAME="13009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013243.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: gdm pam changes
+</A><A NAME="13243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013244.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: gdm pam changes
+</A><A NAME="13244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013245.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: gdm pam changes
+</A><A NAME="13245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012966.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: libgdata 0.11.1 (security release)
+</A><A NAME="12966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012967.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: libgdata 0.11.1 (security release)
+</A><A NAME="12967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012976.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: libgdata 0.11.1 (security release)
+</A><A NAME="12976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012977.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: libgdata 0.11.1 (security release)
+</A><A NAME="12977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013278.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Reviving AppStream and current status
+</A><A NAME="13278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013202.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13202">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013277.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013322.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013323.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013341.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13341">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013546.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013548.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012689.html">[Mageia-dev] Gtk+3.0 bindings API break, what to do?
+</A><A NAME="12689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012706.html">[Mageia-dev] Gtk+3.0 bindings API break, what to do?
+</A><A NAME="12706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012707.html">[Mageia-dev] Gtk+3.0 bindings API break, what to do?
+</A><A NAME="12707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012752.html">[Mageia-dev] Gtk+3.0 bindings API break, what to do?
+</A><A NAME="12752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013544.html">[Mageia-dev] How should packages with version in name be	handled?
+</A><A NAME="13544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013533.html">[Mageia-dev] How should packages with version in name be handled?
+</A><A NAME="13533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012488.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012489.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012490.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012491.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012492.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12492">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013146.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm: [211805] Split themes and i18n as	stand-alone packages
+</A><A NAME="13146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012607.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing a package (ntfs-config), which requires hal
+</A><A NAME="12607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012611.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing a package (ntfs-config), which requires hal
+</A><A NAME="12611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013342.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13342">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013355.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13355">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013357.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13357">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013359.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13359">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013361.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13361">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013362.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13362">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013363.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13363">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013364.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13364">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013365.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13365">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013366.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13366">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013367.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13367">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013369.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13369">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013377.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013386.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013387.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013388.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013394.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013395.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013396.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013397.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013416.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013417.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013419.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013426.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013427.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013430.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013435.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013437.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013439.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013440.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013442.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013444.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013445.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013446.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013032.html">[Mageia-dev] Is this intentional?
+</A><A NAME="13032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013033.html">[Mageia-dev] Is this intentional?
+</A><A NAME="13033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013535.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013752.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013760.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013761.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013767.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013607.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013615.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013619.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013621.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013626.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013628.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013629.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013656.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013631.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation issues
+</A><A NAME="13631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013134.html">[Mageia-dev] kmail losing e-mails ?
+</A><A NAME="13134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013381.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013382.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013383.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013384.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013385.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013255.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013402.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013410.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013411.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013413.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013502.html">[Mageia-dev] libgphoto version: freeze buster?
+</A><A NAME="13502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013545.html">[Mageia-dev] libgphoto version: freeze buster?
+</A><A NAME="13545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013547.html">[Mageia-dev] libgphoto version: freeze buster?
+</A><A NAME="13547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012749.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012753.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012755.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012760.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012765.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012768.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012769.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012772.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012773.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012774.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012776.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012777.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012780.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012816.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012817.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012820.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012833.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012834.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012835.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012837.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012838.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012843.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012844.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012847.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013131.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013133.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013145.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013156.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13156">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013164.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13164">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013167.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013179.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013185.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13185">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013276.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013345.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13345">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013358.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13358">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013405.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013659.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012814.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache (was: Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release rutorrent-3.4-2.mga2)
+</A><A NAME="12814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012815.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache (was: Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release rutorrent-3.4-2.mga2)
+</A><A NAME="12815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013257.html">[Mageia-dev] lm_sensors update for newer kernels
+</A><A NAME="13257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013346.html">[Mageia-dev] lm_sensors update for newer kernels (tmb)
+</A><A NAME="13346">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013633.html">[Mageia-dev] lm_sensors update for newer kernels (tmb)
+</A><A NAME="13633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012698.html">[Mageia-dev] lvm2 initscript is marked as a config file...?
+</A><A NAME="12698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012703.html">[Mageia-dev] lvm2 initscript is marked as a config file...?
+</A><A NAME="12703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012885.html">[Mageia-dev] lvm2 initscript is marked as a config file...?
+</A><A NAME="12885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012889.html">[Mageia-dev] lvm2 initscript is marked as a config file...?
+</A><A NAME="12889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013127.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013144.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013154.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13154">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013161.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13161">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013162.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13162">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013163.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13163">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013034.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi
+</A><A NAME="13034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Armando B.
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013035.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi
+</A><A NAME="13035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013302.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi
+</A><A NAME="13302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Tartavel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013306.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi
+</A><A NAME="13306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Sj&#246;lin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013313.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi (David Sj?lin)
+</A><A NAME="13313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>brett
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013328.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi (David Sj?lin)
+</A><A NAME="13328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013389.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia on Raspberry-Pi (ARM port)
+</A><A NAME="13389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>brett
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013398.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia on Raspberry-Pi (ARM port)
+</A><A NAME="13398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012788.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012792.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012794.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012795.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012805.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012806.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012807.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012845.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012875.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012877.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012951.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012956.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012962.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012978.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013311.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 116
+</A><A NAME="13311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Brett
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013027.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia-release's release notes are empty
+</A><A NAME="13027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013028.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia-release's release notes are empty
+</A><A NAME="13028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013072.html">[Mageia-dev] March 13th, 2012 VirtualBox 4.1.10 released!
+</A><A NAME="13072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013073.html">[Mageia-dev] March 13th, 2012 VirtualBox 4.1.10 released!
+</A><A NAME="13073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013447.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB: problem: final estimated release date
+</A><A NAME="13447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013448.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB: problem: final estimated release date
+</A><A NAME="13448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013521.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB: problem: final estimated release date
+</A><A NAME="13521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013539.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB: problem: final estimated release date
+</A><A NAME="13539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013487.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013492.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13492">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013494.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13494">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013501.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13501">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013496.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13496">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013497.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13497">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013503.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013504.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013505.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013509.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013510.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013517.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013518.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013520.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013522.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13522">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013541.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013454.html">[Mageia-dev] mf2pt1
+</A><A NAME="13454">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013459.html">[Mageia-dev] mf2pt1
+</A><A NAME="13459">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013463.html">[Mageia-dev] mf2pt1
+</A><A NAME="13463">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013689.html">[Mageia-dev] mga1 rebuild
+</A><A NAME="13689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013694.html">[Mageia-dev] mga1 rebuild
+</A><A NAME="13694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013029.html">[Mageia-dev] Mgaqueue, a small queue for BS
+</A><A NAME="13029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013030.html">[Mageia-dev] Mgaqueue, a small queue for BS
+</A><A NAME="13030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013031.html">[Mageia-dev] Mgaqueue, a small queue for BS
+</A><A NAME="13031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012637.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012640.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012644.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012645.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012646.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012647.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012648.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012650.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012651.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012652.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012653.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012654.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012656.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012657.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012658.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012660.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012662.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012664.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012666.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012671.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012672.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012676.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012679.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012680.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012681.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012683.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012686.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012688.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012690.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012691.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012695.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012697.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012699.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012700.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012701.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012702.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012704.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012705.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012715.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012717.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012718.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013571.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing in Action - 3G F5521gw
+</A><A NAME="13571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013578.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing in Action - 3G F5521gw
+</A><A NAME="13578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013608.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing in Action - 3G F5521gw
+</A><A NAME="13608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012668.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing noarch package from i586 repository
+</A><A NAME="12668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012669.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing noarch package from i586 repository
+</A><A NAME="12669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012670.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing noarch package from i586 repository
+</A><A NAME="12670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012696.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing noarch package from i586 repository
+</A><A NAME="12696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013471.html">[Mageia-dev] MTRR problem
+</A><A NAME="13471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013057.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013063.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013064.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13064">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013065.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13065">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013066.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13066">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013067.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13067">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013071.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013078.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013104.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012605.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thibaut FRANCOIS
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012606.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012624.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012625.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>paulo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012626.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012629.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012630.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012631.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012636.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thibaut FRANCOIS
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013564.html">[Mageia-dev] New security issues affect libzip and php (freeze	push will be needed)
+</A><A NAME="13564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013421.html">[Mageia-dev] New security issues affect libzip and php (freeze push	will be needed)
+</A><A NAME="13421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013432.html">[Mageia-dev] New security issues affect libzip and php (freeze push will be needed)
+</A><A NAME="13432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013433.html">[Mageia-dev] New security issues affect libzip and php (freeze push will be needed)
+</A><A NAME="13433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013392.html">[Mageia-dev] New strings in drakx and urpmi - please do warn	i18n
+</A><A NAME="13392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013393.html">[Mageia-dev] New strings in drakx and urpmi - please do warn	i18n
+</A><A NAME="13393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013391.html">[Mageia-dev] New strings in drakx and urpmi - please do warn i18n
+</A><A NAME="13391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013135.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013149.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013178.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013180.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13180">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013209.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013237.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013669.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Emmanuel Andry
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013684.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013691.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013716.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013732.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013733.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012910.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012926.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012928.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012930.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012931.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012932.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012933.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012935.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012494.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12494">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012505.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012507.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012508.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012510.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012512.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012513.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012514.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012522.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12522">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012523.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012525.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012526.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012538.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012539.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012540.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012554.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012639.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012643.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012649.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012659.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magallon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012655.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012667.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012674.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012682.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dark Charlot
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012493.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates
+</A><A NAME="12493">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012506.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates
+</A><A NAME="12506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012638.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates
+</A><A NAME="12638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012541.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012590.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012594.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012595.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012868.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013039.html">[Mageia-dev] Odd Window framing in curses part of install
+</A><A NAME="13039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013040.html">[Mageia-dev] Odd Window framing in curses part of install
+</A><A NAME="13040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013041.html">[Mageia-dev] Odd Window framing in curses part of install
+</A><A NAME="13041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013043.html">[Mageia-dev] Odd Window framing in curses part of install
+</A><A NAME="13043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013602.html">[Mageia-dev] Old library packages left on system after upgrade
+</A><A NAME="13602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013603.html">[Mageia-dev] Old library packages left on system after upgrade
+</A><A NAME="13603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012975.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="12975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012979.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="12979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013004.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="13004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013006.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="13006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013231.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="13231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013239.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="13239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012862.html">[Mageia-dev] Package removal request
+</A><A NAME="12862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012895.html">[Mageia-dev] package update request: gif2png
+</A><A NAME="12895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012905.html">[Mageia-dev] packagekit, gstreamer and urpmi
+</A><A NAME="12905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013264.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers election
+</A><A NAME="13264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013655.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013657.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013660.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013665.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013667.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012741.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="12741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013139.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers team elections
+</A><A NAME="13139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013261.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers team elections
+</A><A NAME="13261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013262.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers team elections
+</A><A NAME="13262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013263.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers team elections
+</A><A NAME="13263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012622.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging groups
+</A><A NAME="12622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012635.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging groups
+</A><A NAME="12635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013247.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging help for GDM+GNOME Mageia background	(long)
+</A><A NAME="13247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013147.html">[Mageia-dev] php pear mga2 upgrade issues (file conflicts)
+</A><A NAME="13147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013150.html">[Mageia-dev] php pear mga2 upgrade issues (file conflicts)
+</A><A NAME="13150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013707.html">[Mageia-dev] php pear mga2 upgrade issues (file conflicts)
+</A><A NAME="13707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013637.html">[Mageia-dev] php-channel-phpunit
+</A><A NAME="13637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013350.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push
+</A><A NAME="13350">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013352.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push
+</A><A NAME="13352">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013428.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push
+</A><A NAME="13428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013375.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013376.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013379.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013422.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013423.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013424.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013129.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push openvpn
+</A><A NAME="13129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013168.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push openvpn
+</A><A NAME="13168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013181.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push openvpn
+</A><A NAME="13181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013282.html">[Mageia-dev] Pleash push postfix
+</A><A NAME="13282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013298.html">[Mageia-dev] Pleash push postfix
+</A><A NAME="13298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012825.html">[Mageia-dev] plt compilation error
+</A><A NAME="12825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012832.html">[Mageia-dev] plt compilation error
+</A><A NAME="12832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012839.html">[Mageia-dev] plt compilation error
+</A><A NAME="12839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012582.html">[Mageia-dev] possibly important packages missing updates
+</A><A NAME="12582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013260.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-applet update for KDE 4.8.1
+</A><A NAME="13260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012564.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with latest network manager
+</A><A NAME="12564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012572.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with latest network manager
+</A><A NAME="12572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012574.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with latest network manager
+</A><A NAME="12574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012575.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with latest network manager
+</A><A NAME="12575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013745.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013746.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013748.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013749.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013750.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013751.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013753.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013764.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013765.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012542.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with systemd and /media.
+</A><A NAME="12542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012544.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with systemd and /media.
+</A><A NAME="12544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013010.html">[Mageia-dev] Pulseaudio push vs version freeze
+</A><A NAME="13010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013021.html">[Mageia-dev] Pulseaudio push vs version freeze
+</A><A NAME="13021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013453.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013457.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13457">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013464.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13464">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013486.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013490.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012981.html">[Mageia-dev] Python3 modules
+</A><A NAME="12981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="016389.html">[Mageia-dev] QT3 in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="16389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wojtulas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012519.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012521.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012529.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012563.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012797.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013058.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="13058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013068.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="13068">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013091.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="13091">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013456.html">[Mageia-dev] reeze push: drakconf
+</A><A NAME="13456">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013474.html">[Mageia-dev] reeze push: drakconf
+</A><A NAME="13474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013475.html">[Mageia-dev] reeze push: drakconf
+</A><A NAME="13475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012771.html">[Mageia-dev] Release_blocker bugs
+</A><A NAME="12771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012789.html">[Mageia-dev] Release_blocker bugs
+</A><A NAME="12789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012801.html">[Mageia-dev] Release_blocker bugs
+</A><A NAME="12801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012904.html">[Mageia-dev] Release_blocker bugs
+</A><A NAME="12904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013649.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013650.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013651.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013652.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013658.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013661.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013663.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013664.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013668.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013672.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013677.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013679.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013683.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eugeni Dodonov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013692.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013698.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013699.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013700.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013701.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013704.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013705.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013706.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013708.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013709.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013710.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013711.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013712.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013713.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013715.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013717.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013718.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013719.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013720.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013722.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013723.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013724.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013725.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013727.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013728.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013729.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013736.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013737.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013739.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013740.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013742.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013360.html">[Mageia-dev] rescue has mount.nfs, but no statd
+</A><A NAME="13360">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013399.html">[Mageia-dev] rescue has mount.nfs, but no statd
+</A><A NAME="13399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013434.html">[Mageia-dev] rescue has mount.nfs, but no statd
+</A><A NAME="13434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013441.html">[Mageia-dev] rescue has mount.nfs, but no statd
+</A><A NAME="13441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012892.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012893.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012894.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012896.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012898.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012901.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012902.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012903.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013674.html">[Mageia-dev] RFT: xen support
+</A><A NAME="13674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013225.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm db issues
+</A><A NAME="13225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Scott Chevalley
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013229.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm db issues
+</A><A NAME="13229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012467.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12467">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012468.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12468">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012517.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012518.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012543.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012580.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012591.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012592.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012593.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012803.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013744.html">[Mageia-dev] Servers downtime
+</A><A NAME="13744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013641.html">[Mageia-dev] Shutdown button by default in Mageia 2 Gnome	request
+</A><A NAME="13641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013642.html">[Mageia-dev] Shutdown button by default in Mageia 2 Gnome	request
+</A><A NAME="13642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013624.html">[Mageia-dev] Shutdown button by default in Mageia 2 Gnome request
+</A><A NAME="13624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012632.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012633.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012684.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012685.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012687.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012708.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012711.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012716.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012724.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012779.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012799.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012855.html">[Mageia-dev] Strings in bootloader.pot
+</A><A NAME="12855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012856.html">[Mageia-dev] Strings in bootloader.pot
+</A><A NAME="12856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012857.html">[Mageia-dev] Strings in bootloader.pot
+</A><A NAME="12857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012858.html">[Mageia-dev] Strings in bootloader.pot
+</A><A NAME="12858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013132.html">[Mageia-dev] Sysadmin please remove from cauldron maniadrive-data
+</A><A NAME="13132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013212.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd 44
+</A><A NAME="13212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013215.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd 44
+</A><A NAME="13215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013228.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd 44
+</A><A NAME="13228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013148.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd network.service issues
+</A><A NAME="13148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013165.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd network.service issues
+</A><A NAME="13165">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013166.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd network.service issues
+</A><A NAME="13166">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013169.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd network.service issues
+</A><A NAME="13169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013216.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013218.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013220.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013222.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013223.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013059.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013060.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013061.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013062.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013069.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013308.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013310.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013319.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013321.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013331.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013347.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13347">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013630.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013673.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013731.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive need mf2pt1
+</A><A NAME="13731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013303.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013326.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013348.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13348">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013400.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013425.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013590.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013600.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013070.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's package
+</A><A NAME="13070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013525.html">[Mageia-dev] Too late for this ? (cairo 1.12)
+</A><A NAME="13525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013526.html">[Mageia-dev] Too late for this ? (cairo 1.12)
+</A><A NAME="13526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013527.html">[Mageia-dev] Too late for this ? (cairo 1.12)
+</A><A NAME="13527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013529.html">[Mageia-dev] Too late for this ? (cairo 1.12)
+</A><A NAME="13529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013330.html">[Mageia-dev] Tracker for security updates
+</A><A NAME="13330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012509.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks not running?
+</A><A NAME="12509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012515.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks not running?
+</A><A NAME="12515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013285.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with	drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013288.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with	drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013632.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with	drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013635.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with	drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013286.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013349.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13349">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013636.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013697.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012537.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating the lm_sensors package with a new &quot;sensors-detect&quot; script without a new lm_sensors version
+</A><A NAME="12537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012549.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating the lm_sensors package with a new &quot;sensors-detect&quot; script without a new lm_sensors version
+</A><A NAME="12549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013248.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013304.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013305.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013307.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013309.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013312.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013314.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013318.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012533.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: 2012/03/07
+</A><A NAME="12533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012536.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: 2012/03/07
+</A><A NAME="12536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012808.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder
+</A><A NAME="12808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012907.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder
+</A><A NAME="12907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012908.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder
+</A><A NAME="12908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012923.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder
+</A><A NAME="12923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012496.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12496">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012497.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12497">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012498.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012499.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012500.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012502.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012503.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012504.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012511.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012516.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012524.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012527.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012528.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012530.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012545.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012546.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012547.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012548.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012560.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012561.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012562.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012565.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012568.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012569.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012570.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012571.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012576.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012577.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012587.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012589.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012596.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012597.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012599.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012604.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="013252.html">[Mageia-dev] xfce still using iaora
+</A><A NAME="13252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012909.html">[Mageia-dev] xonotic and nexuiz
+</A><A NAME="12909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012958.html">[Mageia-dev] xonotic and nexuiz
+</A><A NAME="12958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+    </ul>
+    <p>
+      <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> 
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+      <h1>March 2012 Archives by thread</h1>
+      <ul>
+         <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
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+		<a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+		<a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
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+	     <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+      </ul>
+      <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Thu Mar  1 07:42:41 CET 2012</i><br>
+         <b>Ending:</b> <i>Sat Mar 31 21:33:25 CEST 2012</i><br>
+         <b>Messages:</b> 1318<p>
+     <ul>
+
+<!--0 01330584161- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012452.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330584161-01330585293- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012453.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330584161-01330585293-01330585824- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012455.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12455">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330584161-01330585293-01330585824-01330586392- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012456.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12456">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330584161-01330585293-01330585824-01330586392-01330649942- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012483.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug 107
+</A><A NAME="12483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330585479- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012454.html">[Mageia-dev] fontconfig rules of google droid fonts
+</A><A NAME="12454">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330585479-01330590285- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012457.html">[Mageia-dev] fontconfig rules of google droid fonts
+</A><A NAME="12457">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330585479-01330590285-01330591834- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012458.html">[Mageia-dev] fontconfig rules of google droid fonts
+</A><A NAME="12458">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330585479-01330590285-01330591834-01330598776- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012461.html">[Mageia-dev] fontconfig rules of google droid fonts
+</A><A NAME="12461">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330596756- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012459.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12459">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330596756-01330597209- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012460.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12460">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330596756-01330597209-01330603196- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012462.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12462">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330596756-01330597209-01330603196-01330607336- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012463.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12463">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330596756-01330597209-01330603196-01330607336-01330608219- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012464.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12464">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330596756-01330597209-01330603196-01330607336-01330608837- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012465.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12465">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330596756-01330597209-01330603196-01330634211- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012469.html">[Mageia-dev] bashishms
+</A><A NAME="12469">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330610608- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012466.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current	status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12466">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01330629709- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012467.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12467">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330629709-01330634065- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012468.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12468">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01330629709-01330712253- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012517.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330629709-01330712253-01330713945- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012518.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330629709-01330712253-01330713945-01330735963- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012543.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330629709-01330712253-01330713945-01330735963-01330825775- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012580.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330629709-01330712253-01330713945-01330735963-01330825775-01330859230- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012591.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330629709-01330712253-01330713945-01330735963-01330825775-01330859230-01330860971- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012592.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330629709-01330712253-01330713945-01330735963-01330825775-01330859230-01330860971-01330863634- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012593.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm read locks issue.
+</A><A NAME="12593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330636957- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012470.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330636957-01330637146- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012471.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330636957-01330637146-01330639386- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012475.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01330636957-01330637768- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012472.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330636957-01330637768-01330638169- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012473.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01330636957-01330637768-01330638899- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012474.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330636957-01330637768-01330638899-01330639416- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012476.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330636957-01330637768-01330638899-01330639416-01330639535- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012477.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330636957-01330637768-01330638899-01330639416-01330639535-01330640265- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012479.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330636957-01330637768-01330638899-01330639416-01330639535-01330640265-01330641422- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012480.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330636957-01330637768-01330638899-01330639416-01330639535-01330640265-01330641422-01330641934- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012481.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330636957-01330637768-01330638899-01330639416-01330639535-01330640265-01330641422-01330641934-01330642361- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012482.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330636957-01330637768-01330638899-01330639416-01330639535-01330640265-01330698143- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012501.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12501">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330636957-01330637768-01330638899-01330639416-01330639535-01330640265-01330698143-01330718241- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012531.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330636957-01330637768-01330638899-01330639416-01330639535-01330640265-01330698143-01330718241-01330720145- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012532.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330636957-01330637768-01330638899-01330639416-01330639535-01330640265-01330698143-01330718241-01330720145-01330721471- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012534.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330636957-01330637768-01330638899-01330639416-01330639535-01330640265-01330698143-01330718241-01330720145-01330721471-01330722089- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012535.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330636957-01330637768-01330638899-01330639416-01330639535-01330640265-01330698143-01330718241-01330720145-01330721471-01330722089-01330778737- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012550.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330636957-01330637768-01330638899-01330639416-01330639535-01330640265-01330698143-01330718241-01330720145-01330721471-01330722089-01330778737-01331414990- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012899.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330636957-01330637768-01330638899-01330639416-01330639535-01330714386- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012520.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01330636957-01330637768-01330639856- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012478.html">[Mageia-dev] executable libraries
+</A><A NAME="12478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330650505- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012484.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330650505-01330665842- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012485.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330650505-01330665842-01330667550- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012486.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330650505-01330665842-01330667550-01330669073- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012487.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330650505-01330665842-01330667550-01330669073-01330689271- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012495.html">[Mageia-dev] fatback - can we distribute it?
+</A><A NAME="12495">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330669284- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012488.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330669284-01330675959- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012489.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330669284-01330675959-01330676157- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012490.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330669284-01330675959-01330676157-01330676247- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012491.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330669284-01330675959-01330676157-01330676247-01330676415- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012492.html">[Mageia-dev] i586 tainted stalled?
+</A><A NAME="12492">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330677493- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012493.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates
+</A><A NAME="12493">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330677493-01330684533- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012494.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12494">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330677493-01330684533-01330703052- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012505.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330677493-01330684533-01330703052-01330705134- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012506.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates
+</A><A NAME="12506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330677493-01330684533-01330703052-01330705134-01330705521- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012507.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330677493-01330684533-01330703052-01330705660- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012508.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330677493-01330684533-01330703052-01330705660-01330705887- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012510.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330677493-01330684533-01330703052-01330705660-01330705887-01330706790- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012512.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330677493-01330684533-01330703052-01330705660-01330705887-01330706790-01330707137- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012513.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330677493-01330684533-01330703052-01330705660-01330705887-01330706790-01330707137-01330707206- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012514.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330677493-01330684533-01330703052-01330705660-01330705887-01330706790-01330707137-01330707206-01330730517- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012539.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330677493-01330684533-01330703052-01330705660-01330705887-01330706790-01330707137-01330707206-01330730517-01330731510- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012540.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330677493-01330684533-01330703052-01330705660-01330705887-01330706790-01330707137-01330707206-01330730517-01330731510-01330781378- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012554.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01330677493-01330714675- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012522.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12522">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330677493-01330714675-01330715201- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012523.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330677493-01330714675-01330715201-01330715598- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012525.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330677493-01330714675-01330715201-01330715672- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012526.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330677493-01330714675-01330715201-01330715672-01330724645- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012538.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330677493-01330714675-01330715201-01330715672-01330724645-01331044059- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012667.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330677493-01330714675-01330715201-01330715672-01330724645-01331044059-01331047231- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012674.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330677493-01330714675-01330715201-01330715672-01330724645-01331044059-01331047231-01331052243- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012682.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dark Charlot
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330696361- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012496.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12496">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330696361-01330696996- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012497.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12497">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012498.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698053- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012499.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698053-01330709216- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012516.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698053-01330709216-01330715292- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012524.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698053-01330709216-01330715292-01330715771- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012527.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698053-01330709216-01330715292-01330715771-01330718015- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012530.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698053-01330709216-01330715292-01330715771-01330718015-01330766691- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012545.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698053-01330709216-01330715292-01330715771-01330718015-01330766691-01330767415- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012546.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698053-01330709216-01330715292-01330715771-01330718015-01330766691-01330767415-01330813909- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012576.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698053-01330709216-01330715292-01330716414- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012528.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698077- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012500.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698077-01330698157- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012502.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012503.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012504.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808-01330705906- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012511.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808-01330767769- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012547.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808-01330767769-01330769007- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012548.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808-01330767769-01330769007-01330791438- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012560.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808-01330767769-01330769007-01330857488- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012587.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808-01330767769-01330769007-01330857488-01330866041- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012596.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808-01330767769-01330769007-01330857488-01330869820- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012599.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808-01330767769-01330792962- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012561.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808-01330767769-01330792962-01330793355- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012562.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808-01330767769-01330792962-01330796492- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012565.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808-01330767769-01330792962-01330796492-01330805401- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012568.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808-01330767769-01330792962-01330796492-01330805401-01330808121- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012569.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808-01330767769-01330792962-01330796492-01330805401-01330808121-01330809934- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012570.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808-01330767769-01330792962-01330796492-01330805401-01330808121-01330810481- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012571.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808-01330767769-01330792962-01330796492-01330805401-01330808121-01330810481-01330814138- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012577.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808-01330767769-01330792962-01330796492-01330805401-01330808121-01330810481-01330814138-01330858034- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012589.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808-01330767769-01330792962-01330796492-01330805401-01330808121-01330810481-01330814138-01330858034-01330866176- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012597.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330696361-01330696996-01330697244-01330698712-01330700808-01330767769-01330792962-01330796492-01330805401-01330808121-01330892101- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012604.html">[Mageia-dev] Versions freeze
+</A><A NAME="12604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330705853- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012509.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks not running?
+</A><A NAME="12509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330705853-01330707333- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012515.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks not running?
+</A><A NAME="12515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330714183- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012519.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330714183-01330714515- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012521.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330714183-01330714515-01330717423- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012529.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330714183-01330714515-01330717423-01330795491- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012563.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330714183-01330714515-01330717423-01330795491-01331183461- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012797.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel
+</A><A NAME="12797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330720799- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012533.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: 2012/03/07
+</A><A NAME="12533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330720799-01330723208- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012536.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: 2012/03/07
+</A><A NAME="12536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330721103- -->
+<LI><A HREF="016389.html">[Mageia-dev] QT3 in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="16389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wojtulas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01330724528- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012537.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating the lm_sensors package with a new &quot;sensors-detect&quot; script without a new lm_sensors version
+</A><A NAME="12537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330724528-01330769763- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012549.html">[Mageia-dev] Updating the lm_sensors package with a new &quot;sensors-detect&quot; script without a new lm_sensors version
+</A><A NAME="12549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330731960- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012541.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330731960-01330858918- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012590.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330731960-01330858918-01330863836- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012594.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330731960-01330858918-01330863836-01330864278- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012595.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01330731960-01330858918-01331302283- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012868.html">[Mageia-dev] oce (opencascade) license issues
+</A><A NAME="12868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330735095- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012542.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with systemd and /media.
+</A><A NAME="12542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330735095-01330744433- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012544.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with systemd and /media.
+</A><A NAME="12544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330779862- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012551.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330779862-01330780015- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012552.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330779862-01330780015-01330782985- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012555.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330779862-01330780015-01330782985-01330788103- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012556.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330779862-01330780015-01330782985-01330788103-01330788400- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012557.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330779862-01330780015-01330782985-01330788103-01330788400-01330789128- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012558.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330779862-01330780015-01330782985-01330788103-01330788400-01330789128-01330789378- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012559.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330779862-01330780015-01330782985-01330788103-01330788400-01330789128-01330789378-01330800479- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012566.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330779862-01330780015-01330782985-01330788103-01330788400-01330789128-01330789378-01330800479-01330801994- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012567.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330779862-01330780015-01330782985-01330788103-01330788400-01330789128-01330789378-01330800479-01330801994-01330884981- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012601.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330779862-01330780015-01330782985-01330788103-01330788400-01330789128-01330789378-01330800479-01330801994-01330884981-01330886569- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012603.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330779862-01330780015-01330782985-01330788103-01330788400-01330789128-01330789378-01330800479-01330801994-01330884981-01330886569-01331001212- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012634.html">[Mageia-dev]  BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330779862-01330780015-01330782985-01330788103-01330788400-01330789128-01330789378-01330800479-01330801994-01330884981-01330886569-01331001212-01331033114- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012641.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330779862-01330780015-01330782985-01330788103-01330788400-01330789128-01330789378-01330800479-01330801994-01330884981-01330886569-01331001212-01331033114-01331033660- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012642.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330779862-01330780015-01330782985-01330788103-01330788400-01330789128-01330789378-01330800479-01330801994-01330884981-01330886569-01331001212-01331033114-01331033660-01331041970- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012661.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330779862-01330780015-01330782985-01330788103-01330788400-01330789128-01330789378-01330800479-01330801994-01330884981-01330886569-01331001212-01331033114-01331033660-01331041970-01331042605- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012663.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330779862-01330780015-01330782985-01330788103-01330788400-01330789128-01330789378-01330800479-01330801994-01330884981-01330886569-01331001212-01331033114-01331033660-01331041970-01331042605-01331043108- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012665.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01330779862-01330780468- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012553.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01330779862-01330813495- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012573.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330779862-01330813495-01330869226- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012602.html">[Mageia-dev] BS broken ?
+</A><A NAME="12602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330795672- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012564.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with latest network manager
+</A><A NAME="12564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330795672-01330812388- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012572.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with latest network manager
+</A><A NAME="12572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330795672-01330812388-01330813513- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012574.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with latest network manager
+</A><A NAME="12574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330795672-01330812388-01330813513-01330813784- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012575.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with latest network manager
+</A><A NAME="12575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330824792- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012578.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libvirt-0.9.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330824792-01330857072- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012586.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libvirt-0.9.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330825265- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012579.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330825265-01330826271- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012581.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330825265-01330826271-01330853218- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012585.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330825265-01330826271-01330853218-01330934577- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012608.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330825265-01330826271-01330853218-01330934577-01330936846- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012610.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330825265-01330826271-01330853218-01330934577-01330936846-01330953150- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012612.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330825265-01330826271-01330853218-01330934577-01330936846-01330953150-01330954790- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012613.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330825265-01330826271-01330853218-01330934577-01330936846-01330953150-01330954790-01330956236- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012615.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330825265-01330826271-01330853218-01330934577-01330936846-01330953150-01330954790-01330956236-01330956406- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012616.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330825265-01330826271-01330853218-01330934577-01330936846-01330953150-01330954790-01330956236-01330956406-01330958232- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012618.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330825265-01330826271-01330853218-01330934577-01330936846-01330953150-01330954790-01330956236-01330956406-01330958232-01330958611- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012619.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330825265-01330826271-01330853218-01330934577-01330936846-01330953150-01330954790-01330956236-01330956406-01330958232-01330958611-01330958770- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012620.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330825265-01330826271-01330853218-01330934577-01330936846-01330953150-01330954790-01330956236-01330956406-01330958232-01330958611-01330958770-01330960552- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012623.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330825265-01330826271-01330853218-01330934577-01330936846-01330953150-01330954790-01330956236-01330956406-01330958232-01330958823- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012621.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	rpm-4.9.1.2-20.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330827735- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012582.html">[Mageia-dev] possibly important packages missing updates
+</A><A NAME="12582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01330830909- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012583.html">[Mageia-dev] Errors/warning from drakxtools-13.89.1
+</A><A NAME="12583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330830909-01330846160- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012584.html">[Mageia-dev] Errors/warning from drakxtools-13.89.1
+</A><A NAME="12584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330857672- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012588.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	smplayer-0.7.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01330867203- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012598.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	farstream-0.1.1-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01330878335- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012600.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: kernel-3.3-rc6 landing on Cauldron...
+</A><A NAME="12600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330878335-01330955473- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012614.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: kernel-3.3-rc6 landing on Cauldron...
+</A><A NAME="12614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330892377- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012605.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thibaut FRANCOIS
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330892377-01330897574- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012606.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330892377-01330897574-01330961571- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012624.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330892377-01330897574-01330961571-01330962237- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012625.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>paulo
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330892377-01330897574-01330961571-01330962237-01330963336- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012626.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330892377-01330897574-01330961571-01330962237-01330970196- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012629.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330892377-01330897574-01330961571-01330962237-01330970196-01330974213- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012630.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330892377-01330897574-01330961571-01330962237-01330970196-01330975875- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012631.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330892377-01330897574-01330961571-01330962237-01330970196-01331025672- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012636.html">[Mageia-dev] Network lost with last update
+</A><A NAME="12636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thibaut FRANCOIS
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330934480- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012607.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing a package (ntfs-config), which requires hal
+</A><A NAME="12607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330934480-01330947416- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012611.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing a package (ntfs-config), which requires hal
+</A><A NAME="12611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330935712- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012609.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding b43-openfwwf to default setup
+</A><A NAME="12609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01330957096- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012617.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	urpmi-6.45-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01330959155- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012622.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging groups
+</A><A NAME="12622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330959155-01331004792- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012635.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging groups
+</A><A NAME="12635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330963394- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012627.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3193] Add missing backported commit
+</A><A NAME="12627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330963394-01330963570- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012628.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3193] Add missing backported commit
+</A><A NAME="12628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330982050- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012632.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330982050-01330988033- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012633.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330982050-01330988033-01331055222- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012684.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330982050-01330988033-01331055222-01331055510- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012685.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330982050-01330988033-01331055222-01331056387- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012687.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330982050-01330988033-01331055222-01331056387-01331066470- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012708.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330982050-01330988033-01331055222-01331056387-01331066470-01331066983- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012711.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330982050-01330988033-01331055222-01331056387-01331066470-01331066983-01331157460- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012779.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330982050-01330988033-01331055222-01331056387-01331066470-01331066983-01331157460-01331194938- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012799.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330982050-01330988033-01331055222-01331056387-01331066470-01331075617- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012716.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330982050-01330988033-01331055222-01331056387-01331066470-01331075617-01331109567- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012724.html">[Mageia-dev] soundwrapper
+</A><A NAME="12724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331025893- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012637.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331025893-01331032846- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012640.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012644.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331037972- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012645.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331037972-01331039242- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012648.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331037972-01331039242-01331040108- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012650.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331037972-01331039242-01331040518- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012652.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331037972-01331039242-01331040518-01331062914- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012697.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331037972-01331039242-01331040518-01331062914-01331063522- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012700.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331037972-01331039242-01331040518-01331062914-01331063522-01331064596- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012702.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331037972-01331039242-01331040518-01331062914-01331063522-01331064596-01331065189- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012704.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331037972-01331039242-01331040518-01331062914-01331063522-01331064596-01331065189-01331065796- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012705.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331037972-01331039242-01331040518-01331062914-01331063522-01331064596-01331065189-01331065796-01331075466- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012715.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331038411- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012646.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331038411-01331039002- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012647.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012651.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040838- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012653.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040838-01331041374- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012657.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040838-01331041374-01331042205- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012662.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040838-01331041374-01331042205-01331043013- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012664.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040838-01331041374-01331042205-01331043013-01331043901- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012666.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040838-01331041374-01331042205-01331043013-01331043901-01331045616- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012671.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040838-01331041374-01331042205-01331043013-01331043901-01331045616-01331045893- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012672.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040866- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012654.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040866-01331041886- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012658.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040866-01331041934- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012660.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040866-01331041934-01331047690- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012676.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040866-01331041934-01331047690-01331049811- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012679.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040866-01331041934-01331047690-01331049811-01331050970- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012680.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040866-01331041934-01331047690-01331049811-01331050970-01331051513- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012681.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040866-01331041934-01331047690-01331049811-01331050970-01331051513-01331053007- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012683.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040866-01331041934-01331047690-01331049811-01331050970-01331051513-01331053007-01331056317- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012686.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040866-01331041934-01331047690-01331049811-01331050970-01331051513-01331053007-01331056317-01331056676- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012688.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040866-01331041934-01331047690-01331049811-01331050970-01331051513-01331053007-01331056317-01331056676-01331058980- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012690.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040866-01331041934-01331047690-01331049811-01331050970-01331051513-01331053007-01331056317-01331056676-01331058980-01331059540- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012691.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040866-01331041934-01331047690-01331049811-01331050970-01331051513-01331053007-01331056317-01331056676-01331058980-01331062202- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012695.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040866-01331041934-01331047690-01331049811-01331050970-01331051513-01331053007-01331056317-01331056676-01331058980-01331062202-01331063411- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012699.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040199-01331040866-01331041934-01331047690-01331049811-01331050970-01331051513-01331053007-01331056317-01331056676-01331058980-01331062202-01331063411-01331064500- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012701.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040933- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012656.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040933-01331076250- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012717.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331025893-01331032846-01331037516-01331040933-01331076250-01331077656- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012718.html">[Mageia-dev] Minimum install of cauldron don't start console
+</A><A NAME="12718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331027113- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012638.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel updates
+</A><A NAME="12638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331027113-01331030176- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012639.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331027113-01331036793- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012643.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331027113-01331036793-01331039287- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012649.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331027113-01331036793-01331039287-01331040806- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012659.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magallon
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331027113-01331036793-01331039287-01331040881- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012655.html">[Mageia-dev] NVidia fallback to Nouveau after latest Kernel	updates
+</A><A NAME="12655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331044148- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012668.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing noarch package from i586 repository
+</A><A NAME="12668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331044148-01331044753- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012669.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing noarch package from i586 repository
+</A><A NAME="12669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331044148-01331044753-01331044793- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012670.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing noarch package from i586 repository
+</A><A NAME="12670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331044148-01331044753-01331044793-01331062696- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012696.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing noarch package from i586 repository
+</A><A NAME="12696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331046747- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012673.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331046747-01331047624- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012675.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331046747-01331047624-01331049033- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012677.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331046747-01331047624-01331049033-01331060159- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012692.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331046747-01331049283- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012678.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331046747-01331049283-01331060209- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012693.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331046747-01331049283-01331060209-01331060613- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012694.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01331046747-01331049283-01331066605- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012709.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331046747-01331049283-01331066605-01331066788- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012710.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331046747-01331049283-01331066605-01331066788-01331067397- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012714.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331046747-01331049283-01331066605-01331066788-01331083872- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012720.html">[Mageia-dev] Drop kaffeine from repos?
+</A><A NAME="12720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331058870- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012689.html">[Mageia-dev] Gtk+3.0 bindings API break, what to do?
+</A><A NAME="12689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331058870-01331065818- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012706.html">[Mageia-dev] Gtk+3.0 bindings API break, what to do?
+</A><A NAME="12706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331058870-01331065818-01331066190- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012707.html">[Mageia-dev] Gtk+3.0 bindings API break, what to do?
+</A><A NAME="12707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331058870-01331134948- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012752.html">[Mageia-dev] Gtk+3.0 bindings API break, what to do?
+</A><A NAME="12752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331063336- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012698.html">[Mageia-dev] lvm2 initscript is marked as a config file...?
+</A><A NAME="12698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331063336-01331064724- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012703.html">[Mageia-dev] lvm2 initscript is marked as a config file...?
+</A><A NAME="12703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331063336-01331064724-01331374216- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012885.html">[Mageia-dev] lvm2 initscript is marked as a config file...?
+</A><A NAME="12885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331063336-01331064724-01331374216-01331396821- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012889.html">[Mageia-dev] lvm2 initscript is marked as a config file...?
+</A><A NAME="12889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331067104- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012712.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3040] include missing	hid-logitech-dj HID driver (mga#4129)
+</A><A NAME="12712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331067194- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012713.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xorg-x11-7.6-6.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331077921- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012719.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system bugs
+</A><A NAME="12719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331077921-01331089944- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012721.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system bugs
+</A><A NAME="12721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331077921-01331089944-01331108533- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012723.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system bugs
+</A><A NAME="12723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331077921-01331089944-01331108533-01331226232- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012842.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system bugs
+</A><A NAME="12842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331091112- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012722.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [220840] new version 4.8.1
+</A><A NAME="12722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331112401- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012725.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331112401-01331114722- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012726.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331112401-01331114722-01331114936- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012727.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01331112401-01331114722-01331115083- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012728.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01331112401-01331114722-01331115195- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012729.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331112401-01331114722-01331115195-01331118929- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012737.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331114722-01331115195-01331118929-01331121772- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012739.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331114722-01331115195-01331118929-01331121772-01331127388- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012743.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331114722-01331115195-01331118929-01331121772-01331127388-01331128295- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012744.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331114722-01331115195-01331118929-01331129373- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012747.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331114722-01331115195-01331118929-01331129373-01331131744- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012748.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331112401-01331115492- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012730.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331112401-01331115492-01331118720- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012736.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331112401-01331115492-01331118720-01331119020- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012738.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331112401-01331128421- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012745.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331112401-01331128421-01331136964- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012757.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331112401-01331128421-01331136964-01331137429- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012761.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331128421-01331136964-01331148779- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012766.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331128421-01331136964-01331148779-01331149265- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012767.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331128421-01331136964-01331148779-01331149265-01331157979- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012782.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331128421-01331136964-01331148779-01331149265-01331157979-01331169612- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012790.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331128421-01331136964-01331148779-01331149265-01331157979-01331169612-01331172483- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012793.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331128421-01331136964-01331148779-01331149265-01331157979-01331169612-01331172483-01331175047- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012796.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331128421-01331136964-01331148779-01331149265-01331157979-01331169612-01331172483-01331215129- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012818.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331128421-01331136964-01331148779-01331149265-01331157979-01331169612-01331172483-01331215129-01331215422- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012821.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331128421-01331136964-01331148779-01331149265-01331157979-01331169612-01331196404- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012802.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dale Huckeby
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331112401-01331134325- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012750.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Z&#233;zinho
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331112401-01331134325-01331135541- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012754.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01331112401-01331134325-01331137232- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012759.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331112401-01331134325-01331137232-01331139406- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012764.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331134325-01331137232-01331139406-01331156090- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012775.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331134325-01331137232-01331139406-01331156090-01331157006- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012778.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331134325-01331137232-01331139406-01331156090-01331158089- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012784.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331134325-01331137232-01331139406-01331156090-01331158094- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012785.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331134325-01331137232-01331139406-01331156090-01331158094-01331163285- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012786.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331134325-01331137232-01331139406-01331156090-01331158094-01331163285-01331163942- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012787.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331134325-01331137232-01331139406-01331156090-01331158094-01331163285-01331163942-01331171905- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012791.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331134325-01331137232-01331139406-01331156090-01331158094-01331163285-01331163942-01331171905-01331195075- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012800.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331134325-01331137232-01331139406-01331156090-01331158094-01331163285-01331163942-01331171905-01331195075-01331199657- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012804.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331134325-01331137232-01331139406-01331156090-01331158094-01331163285-01331163942-01331171905-01331195075-01331199657-01331211970- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012812.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331134325-01331137232-01331139406-01331156090-01331158094-01331163285-01331163942-01331171905-01331195075-01331199657-01331211970-01331215889- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012824.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331134325-01331137232-01331139406-01331158026- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012783.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331112401-01331251091- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012849.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331112401-01331251091-01331333788- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012878.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331112401-01331251091-01331333788-01331364209- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012881.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331251091-01331333788-01331364209-01331370771- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012882.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331251091-01331333788-01331364209-01331370771-01331385311- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012887.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331251091-01331333788-01331364209-01331370771-01331385311-01331397452- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012891.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331251091-01331333788-01331364209-01331370771-01331385311-01331413569- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012897.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331251091-01331333788-01331364209-01331370771-01331385311-01331413569-01331415575- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012900.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331112401-01331251091-01331333788-01331364209-01331370771-01331385311-01331413569-01331415575-01331423779- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012906.html">[Mageia-dev] Deprecating startx
+</A><A NAME="12906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331116069- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012731.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire REVILLET
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331116069-01331117983- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012733.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331116069-01331117983-01331118239- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012734.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331116069-01331117983-01331118239-01331121919- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012740.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331116069-01331117983-01331118239-01331121919-01331126015- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012742.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331116069-01331117983-01331118239-01331121919-01331126015-01331136868- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012756.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331116069-01331117983-01331118239-01331121919-01331126015-01331136868-01331137220- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012758.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331116069-01331117983-01331118239-01331121919-01331126015-01331136868-01331137220-01331138825- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012762.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331116069-01331117983-01331118239-01331121919-01331126015-01331136868-01331137220-01331138825-01331138836- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012763.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331116851- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012732.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-9.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331118341- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012735.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	p-uae-2.3.3-0.20120229git.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331118341-01331129515- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012746.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	p-uae-2.3.3-0.20120229git.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331125620- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012741.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="12741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331134046- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012749.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331134046-01331135118- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012753.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331134046-01331136632- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012755.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331134046-01331136632-01331137394- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012760.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01331134046-01331136632-01331145565- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012765.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331134046-01331136632-01331145565-01331149549- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012768.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331134046-01331136632-01331145565-01331149549-01331149706- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012769.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331134046-01331136632-01331145565-01331149549-01331149706-01331154781- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012772.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331134046-01331136632-01331145565-01331149549-01331149706-01331154781-01331155999- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012773.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331134046-01331136632-01331145565-01331149549-01331149706-01331154781-01331155999-01331156384- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012776.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331134046-01331136632-01331145565-01331149549-01331149706-01331154781-01331156101- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012774.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331134046-01331136632-01331145565-01331149549-01331149706-01331154781-01331156101-01331156512- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012777.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331134046-01331136632-01331145565-01331149549-01331149706-01331154781-01331156101-01331156512-01331157601- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012780.html">[Mageia-dev] libtorrent / rtorrent versions, revert to stable?
+</A><A NAME="12780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331134446- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012751.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	lxdm-0.4.1-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331152483- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012770.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331152483-01331249425- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012846.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331152483-01331262660- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012852.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331152483-01331262660-01331263779- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012853.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331152483-01331262660-01331263779-01331275375- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012854.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331152483-01331262660-01331263779-01331275375-01331299782- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012866.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331152483-01331262660-01331263779-01331275375-01331299782-01331302594- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012869.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331152483-01331262660-01331263779-01331275375-01331299782-01331310586- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012871.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331152483-01331262660-01331263779-01331275375-01331299782-01331310586-01331311353- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012872.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331152483-01331262660-01331263779-01331275375-01331299782-01331310586-01331311353-01331318693- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012873.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331152483-01331262660-01331263779-01331275375-01331299782-01331310586-01331311353-01331318693-01331335546- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012879.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331152483-01331262660-01331263779-01331275375-01331299782-01331310586-01331311353-01331318693-01331335546-01331336746- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012880.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331152483-01331262660-01331263779-01331275375-01331300016- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012867.html">[Mageia-dev] deprecate text installer
+</A><A NAME="12867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331153031- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012771.html">[Mageia-dev] Release_blocker bugs
+</A><A NAME="12771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331153031-01331167891- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012789.html">[Mageia-dev] Release_blocker bugs
+</A><A NAME="12789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331153031-01331195836- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012801.html">[Mageia-dev] Release_blocker bugs
+</A><A NAME="12801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331153031-01331195836-01331416467- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012904.html">[Mageia-dev] Release_blocker bugs
+</A><A NAME="12904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331157674- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012781.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: libtorrent and rtorrent reverted to their stable	versions
+</A><A NAME="12781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331157674-01331306472- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012870.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: libtorrent and rtorrent reverted to their stable versions
+</A><A NAME="12870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331165937- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012788.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331165937-01331172038- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012792.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331165937-01331172038-01331172999- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012794.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331165937-01331172038-01331172999-01331200366- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012805.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331165937-01331172038-01331172999-01331200366-01331243753- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012845.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01331165937-01331172038-01331173592- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012795.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01331165937-01331172038-01331200659- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012806.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331165937-01331172038-01331200659-01331201377- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012807.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331165937-01331324713- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012875.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331165937-01331324713-01331332831- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012877.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331165937-01331324713-01331332831-01331497352- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012951.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331165937-01331324713-01331332831-01331497352-01331509080- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012956.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331165937-01331324713-01331332831-01331497352-01331509080-01331537746- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012962.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331165937-01331324713-01331332831-01331497352-01331509080-01331537746-01331565597- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012978.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia support for GMA 3600 (Cedar Trail Atom)
+</A><A NAME="12978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331192264- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012798.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	kmod-virtualbox-4.1.8-17.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331198478- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012803.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331202691- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012808.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder
+</A><A NAME="12808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331202691-01331427541- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012907.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder
+</A><A NAME="12907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331202691-01331427541-01331427971- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012908.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder
+</A><A NAME="12908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01331202691-01331427541-01331470932- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012923.html">[Mageia-dev] Version freeze: reminder
+</A><A NAME="12923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331209239- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012809.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331209239-01331209754- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012810.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331209239-01331209782- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012811.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331209239-01331215213- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012819.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331209239-01331215213-01331216287- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012827.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331209239-01331215213-01331216287-01331217518- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012830.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331209239-01331215213-01331216287-01331217726- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012831.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331209239-01331215213-01331216287-01331217726-01331381359- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012886.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	get-skype-2.2.0.35-18.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="12886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331212663- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012813.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] no more mails from bugzilla?
+</A><A NAME="12813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331212663-01331215589- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012823.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] no more mails from bugzilla?
+</A><A NAME="12823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331213605- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012814.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache (was: Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release rutorrent-3.4-2.mga2)
+</A><A NAME="12814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331213605-01331213923- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012815.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache (was: Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release rutorrent-3.4-2.mga2)
+</A><A NAME="12815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012820.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012833.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331219583- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012834.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331219583-01331221630- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012837.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331219583-01331221630-01331844673- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013131.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331219583-01331221630-01331844673-01331845059- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013133.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331219583-01331221630-01331844673-01331863308- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013145.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331219583-01331221630-01331844673-01331863308-01331888526- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013156.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13156">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331219583-01331221630-01331844673-01331863308-01331888526-01331899224- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013164.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13164">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malo
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331219583-01331221630-01331844673-01331863308-01331888526-01331899224-01331920049- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013179.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331219583-01331221630-01331844673-01331863308-01331888526-01331899224-01331920049-01331950944- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013185.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13185">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331219583-01331221630-01331844673-01331863308-01331888526-01331899224-01331920049-01331950944-01332262086- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013276.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331219583-01331221630-01331844673-01331863308-01331888526-01331899224-01331920049-01331950944-01332262086-01332381078- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013345.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13345">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331219583-01331221630-01331844673-01331863308-01331888526-01331899224-01331920049-01331950944-01332262086-01332381078-01332406227- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013358.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13358">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331219583-01331221630-01331844673-01331863308-01331888526-01331899224-01331920049-01331950944-01332262086-01332448943- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013405.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331219583-01331221630-01331844673-01331863308-01331888526-01331899224-01331920049-01331950944-01332262086-01332448943-01333042845- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013659.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13659">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331219583-01331221630-01331844673-01331863308-01331888526-01331904550- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013167.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="13167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331220555- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012835.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331221682- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012838.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331221682-01331227149- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012843.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331221682-01331227149-01331227359- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012844.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malo
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331213605-01331213923-01331215359-01331218666-01331221682-01331227149-01331227359-01331250409- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012847.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331213605-01331214208- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012816.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331213605-01331214208-01331214567- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012817.html">[Mageia-dev] lighttpd and others now require apache
+</A><A NAME="12817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331215517- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012822.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Nonresponsive or absent package maintainers &amp; policy discussion
+</A><A NAME="12822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331216253- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012826.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331216253-01331216984- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012828.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331216253-01331216984-01331217217- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012829.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331216253-01331216984-01331217217-01331224603- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012841.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331216253-01331221135- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012836.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331216253-01331221135-01331224079- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012840.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331216253-01331221135-01331224079-01331250724- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012848.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331216253-01331221135-01331224079-01331252892- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012850.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331216253-01331257225- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012851.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331216253-01331257225-01331287553- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012864.html">[Mageia-dev] agetty vs. mingetty
+</A><A NAME="12864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331216273- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012825.html">[Mageia-dev] plt compilation error
+</A><A NAME="12825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331216273-01331217746- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012832.html">[Mageia-dev] plt compilation error
+</A><A NAME="12832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Malo
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331216273-01331217746-01331223896- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012839.html">[Mageia-dev] plt compilation error
+</A><A NAME="12839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331278258- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012855.html">[Mageia-dev] Strings in bootloader.pot
+</A><A NAME="12855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331278258-01331278397- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012856.html">[Mageia-dev] Strings in bootloader.pot
+</A><A NAME="12856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331278258-01331278397-01331279041- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012857.html">[Mageia-dev] Strings in bootloader.pot
+</A><A NAME="12857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331278258-01331278397-01331279041-01331279200- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012858.html">[Mageia-dev] Strings in bootloader.pot
+</A><A NAME="12858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331282005- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012859.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	vlc-2.0.0-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331282546- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012860.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="12860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331282546-01331287091- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012863.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="12863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331282546-01331584207- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012999.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="12999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331282546-01331584207-01331592497- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013015.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="13015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331282546-01331584207-01331592497-01332184932- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013235.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't install nvidia-cuda update
+</A><A NAME="13235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331285026- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012861.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3279] fixed the pot file so it	passes msgfmt
+</A><A NAME="12861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331285385- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012862.html">[Mageia-dev] Package removal request
+</A><A NAME="12862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331298327- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012865.html">[Mageia-dev] cleaning in core/updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="12865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331298327-01331322987- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012874.html">[Mageia-dev] cleaning in core/updates_testing
+</A><A NAME="12874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331326323- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012876.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	otrs-3.1.2-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331371576- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012883.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331371576-01331468517- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012913.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012914.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331469508- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012915.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331469508-01331470603- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012922.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331469742- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012916.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331469742-01331470031- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012918.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331469742-01331470031-01331470400- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012919.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331469742-01331470031-01331470522- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012921.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331469742-01331470031-01331470522-01331535218- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012959.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331469742-01331470031-01331470522-01331535218-01331537346- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012960.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331469742-01331470031-01331470522-01331535218-01331537346-01331546217- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012969.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331469742-01331470031-01331470522-01331535218-01331537346-01331546217-01331584045- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012998.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331469742-01331470031-01331470522-01331535218-01331537346-01331546217-01331584045-01331586176- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013003.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331469742-01331470031-01331470522-01331535218-01331537346-01331546217-01331584045-01331586176-01331594995- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013017.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331469742-01331470031-01331470522-01331535218-01331537346-01331546217-01331584045-01331586176-01331594995-01331596592- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013019.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R James
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331469742-01331470031-01331470522-01331535218-01331537346-01331546217-01331584045-01331586176-01331594995-01331596592-01331596741- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013020.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R James
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331469742-01331470031-01331471484- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012924.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331469822- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012917.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331469822-01331471685- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012925.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331470471- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012920.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331470471-01331472257- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012927.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331470471-01331472257-01331473541- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012929.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331470471-01331472257-01331473541-01331476604- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012934.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331470471-01331472257-01331473541-01331476604-01331476647- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012936.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331468987-01331470471-01331472257-01331473541-01331476604-01331478255- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012937.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01331371576-01331468517-01331485121- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012940.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331485121-01331485974- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012941.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331485121-01331485974-01331486901- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012943.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331485121-01331485974-01331486901-01331572779- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012987.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331485121-01331485974-01331486901-01331572779-01331576368- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012993.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R James
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331485121-01331485974-01331486901-01331572779-01331576368-01331577417- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012995.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331485121-01331485974-01331487589- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012944.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331485121-01331485974-01331487589-01331490429- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012946.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331485121-01331501132- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012953.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331485121-01331501132-01331537490- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012961.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331485121-01331501132-01331537490-01331569167- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012982.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="12982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01331371576-01331468517-01331684183- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013050.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331684183-01331709977- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013053.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331684183-01331709977-01331823033- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013111.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331684183-01331709977-01331823033-01331829553- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013116.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331684183-01331709977-01331823033-01331829553-01331832246- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013118.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331684183-01331709977-01331823033-01331829553-01331832246-01331832904- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013119.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331684183-01331709977-01331823033-01331829553-01331832246-01331832904-01331840108- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013125.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331684183-01331709977-01331823033-01331829553-01331832246-01331832904-01331840108-01331884665- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013152.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331684183-01331709977-01331823033-01331829553-01331832246-01331832904-01331840108-01331884665-01331910718- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013174.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331684183-01331709977-01331823033-01331829553-01331832246-01331832904-01331840108-01331884665-01331910718-01331910922- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013175.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13175">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331371576-01331468517-01331684183-01331709977-01331823033-01331829553-01331832246-01331832904-01331840108-01331884665-01331910718-01331910922-01331911585- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013176.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze] please let in xonotic
+</A><A NAME="13176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331371657- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012884.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	mageia-release-2-0.5.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331371657-01331393668- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012888.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	mageia-release-2-0.5.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331397393- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012890.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-Private] Consolidation of the spelling	tools in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="12890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331397393-01331590402- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013012.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-Private] Consolidation of the spelling	tools in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331397393-01331590402-01331601348- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013022.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-Private] Consolidation of the spelling	tools in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331397605- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012892.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331397605-01331398508- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012893.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331397605-01331399052- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012894.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331397605-01331399052-01331407756- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012896.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331397605-01331399052-01331407756-01331414140- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012898.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331397605-01331399052-01331407756-01331414140-01331415594- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012901.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331397605-01331399052-01331407756-01331414140-01331415594-01331415834- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012903.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331397605-01331399052-01331407756-01331414140-01331415751- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012902.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Splash + Quiet.
+</A><A NAME="12902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331403327- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012895.html">[Mageia-dev] package update request: gif2png
+</A><A NAME="12895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331421444- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012905.html">[Mageia-dev] packagekit, gstreamer and urpmi
+</A><A NAME="12905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331444926- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012909.html">[Mageia-dev] xonotic and nexuiz
+</A><A NAME="12909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331444926-01331519068- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012958.html">[Mageia-dev] xonotic and nexuiz
+</A><A NAME="12958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331458632- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012910.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331458632-01331472140- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012926.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331458632-01331472140-01331473598- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012928.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331458632-01331472140-01331473598-01331473728- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012931.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331458632-01331472140-01331473598-01331473728-01331473878- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012932.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331458632-01331472140-01331473598-01331473728-01331473878-01331474094- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012933.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331458632-01331472140-01331473598-01331473728-01331473878-01331476626- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012935.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marek Laane
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331458632-01331473614- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012930.html">[Mageia-dev] Notify i18n on string changes
+</A><A NAME="12930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331462015- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012911.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="12911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331462015-01331466909- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012912.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="12912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331462015-01331478865- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012938.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="12938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>paiiou
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331462015-01331484878- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012939.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="12939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331462015-01331625285- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013026.html">[Mageia-dev] Default browser in LXDE
+</A><A NAME="13026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331486309- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012942.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="12942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331486309-01331548869- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012970.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="12970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331486309-01331548869-01331549103- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012971.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="12971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331486309-01331548869-01331549103-01331555297- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012972.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="12972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331490035- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012945.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331490035-01331494057- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012947.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331490035-01331494057-01331494472- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012948.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331490035-01331494057-01331494472-01331495039- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012949.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331490035-01331494057-01331494472-01331495039-01331495337- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012950.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331490035-01331494057-01331494472-01331495039-01331495337-01331499964- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012952.html">[Mageia-dev] Bluetooth USB dongle - not showing up
+</A><A NAME="12952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331505165- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012954.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331505165-01331507965- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012955.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331505165-01331507965-01331512510- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012957.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331505165-01331541492- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012965.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331505165-01331541492-01331593214- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013016.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331505165-01331545529- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012968.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331505165-01331565929- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012980.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="12980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331505165-01331565929-01331586286- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013005.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331505165-01331565929-01331586286-01331590314- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013011.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331505165-01331565929-01331586286-01331595051- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013018.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331505165-01331565929-01331586286-01331595051-01331608755- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013024.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push Question: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331539578- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012963.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: version freeze and what it means for Mageia 1	updates
+</A><A NAME="12963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331539578-01331540954- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012964.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: version freeze and what it means for Mageia 1 updates
+</A><A NAME="12964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331539578-01331620313- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013025.html">[Mageia-dev] ANN: version freeze and what it means for Mageia 1	updates
+</A><A NAME="13025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331545018- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012966.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: libgdata 0.11.1 (security release)
+</A><A NAME="12966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331545018-01331545170- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012967.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: libgdata 0.11.1 (security release)
+</A><A NAME="12967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331545018-01331545170-01331564984- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012976.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: libgdata 0.11.1 (security release)
+</A><A NAME="12976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331545018-01331545170-01331564984-01331565180- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012977.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: libgdata 0.11.1 (security release)
+</A><A NAME="12977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331561903- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012973.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3417] Updating Spanish translation
+</A><A NAME="12973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331564643- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012974.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: GConf 3.2.5
+</A><A NAME="12974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331564643-01331586591- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013007.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: GConf 3.2.5
+</A><A NAME="13007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331564643-01331586591-01331586788- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013009.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: GConf 3.2.5
+</A><A NAME="13009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331564904- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012975.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="12975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331564904-01331565621- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012979.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="12979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331564904-01331565621-01331586302- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013004.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="13004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331564904-01331565621-01331586302-01331586483- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013006.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="13006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331566697- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012981.html">[Mageia-dev] Python3 modules
+</A><A NAME="12981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331570943- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012983.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3424] convert to utf8
+</A><A NAME="12983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331570943-01331571251- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012984.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3424] convert to utf8
+</A><A NAME="12984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331571373- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012985.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpm-helper
+</A><A NAME="12985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331571373-01331575908- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012992.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpm-helper
+</A><A NAME="12992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331572597- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012986.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331572597-01331574052- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012988.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331572597-01331574052-01331574803- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012989.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331572597-01331574052-01331574803-01331575044- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012990.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331572597-01331574052-01331574803-01331575044-01331575345- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012991.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331572597-01331574052-01331574803-01331575044-01331575345-01331576334- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012994.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331572597-01331574052-01331574803-01331575044-01331575345-01331576334-01331577632- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012996.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-8.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331583902- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012997.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3428] Get rid of ERR log level
+</A><A NAME="12997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331583902-01331584802- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013000.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3428] Get rid of ERR log level
+</A><A NAME="13000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331585391- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013001.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331585391-01331585590- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013002.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331585391-01331585590-01331586993- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013008.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331585391-01331591274- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013013.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331585391-01331591274-01331591908- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013014.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-binaries, drakxtools, drakx-net, then drakx-installer-images drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331589569- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013010.html">[Mageia-dev] Pulseaudio push vs version freeze
+</A><A NAME="13010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331589569-01331599965- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013021.html">[Mageia-dev] Pulseaudio push vs version freeze
+</A><A NAME="13021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331601569- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013023.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4, kdevelop4-php,	kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331601569-01331684740- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013051.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4,	kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331601569-01331684740-01331982056- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013190.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4,	kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331601569-01331684740-01331982056-01332158615- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013210.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4,	kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331601569-01331684740-01331982056-01332158615-01332160731- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013219.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4, kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331601569-01331684740-01331982056-01332158615-01332160731-01332161424- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013221.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: kdevplatform4, kdevelop4, kdevelop4-php, kdevelop4-php-docs
+</A><A NAME="13221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331630038- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013029.html">[Mageia-dev] Mgaqueue, a small queue for BS
+</A><A NAME="13029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331630038-01331645853- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013030.html">[Mageia-dev] Mgaqueue, a small queue for BS
+</A><A NAME="13030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331630038-01331645853-01331648353- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013031.html">[Mageia-dev] Mgaqueue, a small queue for BS
+</A><A NAME="13031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331633202- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013027.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia-release's release notes are empty
+</A><A NAME="13027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331633202-01331639641- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013028.html">[Mageia-dev] mageia-release's release notes are empty
+</A><A NAME="13028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331650313- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013032.html">[Mageia-dev] Is this intentional?
+</A><A NAME="13032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331650313-01331650539- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013033.html">[Mageia-dev] Is this intentional?
+</A><A NAME="13033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331651275- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013034.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi
+</A><A NAME="13034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Armando B.
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331651275-01331651904- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013035.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi
+</A><A NAME="13035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331651275-01331651904-01332326800- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013302.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi
+</A><A NAME="13302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Daniel Tartavel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331651275-01331651904-01332326800-01332331093- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013306.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi
+</A><A NAME="13306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Sj&#246;lin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331658554- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013036.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: openssl
+</A><A NAME="13036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331658554-01331658697- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013037.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: openssl
+</A><A NAME="13037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331661137- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013038.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-13.92-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331664019- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013039.html">[Mageia-dev] Odd Window framing in curses part of install
+</A><A NAME="13039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331664019-01331668068- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013040.html">[Mageia-dev] Odd Window framing in curses part of install
+</A><A NAME="13040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331664019-01331668068-01331668990- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013041.html">[Mageia-dev] Odd Window framing in curses part of install
+</A><A NAME="13041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331664019-01331668068-01331668990-01331669834- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013043.html">[Mageia-dev] Odd Window framing in curses part of install
+</A><A NAME="13043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331669568- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013042.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-stage2-13.94
+</A><A NAME="13042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331669568-01331671375- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013044.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-stage2-13.94
+</A><A NAME="13044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331669568-01331671375-01331767489- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013103.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-stage2-13.94
+</A><A NAME="13103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331669568-01331673686- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013045.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-stage2-13.94
+</A><A NAME="13045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331676349- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013046.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-images &amp;	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331676349-01331679104- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013048.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer-images &amp;	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331676988- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013047.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: microcode
+</A><A NAME="13047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331676988-01331680032- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013049.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: microcode
+</A><A NAME="13049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331690577- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013052.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331690577-01331710070- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013054.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331690577-01331710070-01331713687- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013055.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331690577-01331710070-01331713687-01331755139- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013098.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13098">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331690577-01331822368- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013109.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331690577-01331822368-01331823516- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013112.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: firefox, xulrunner
+</A><A NAME="13112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331714189- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013056.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xguest-1.0.10-6.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331715891- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013057.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331715891-01331724102- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013063.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331715891-01331724102-01331724257- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013064.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13064">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331715891-01331724102-01331724257-01331727301- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013067.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13067">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331715891-01331724102-01331724257-01331727301-01331735049- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013071.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331715891-01331724102-01331724257-01331727301-01331735049-01331737769- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013078.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331715891-01331724102-01331724257-01331727301-01331735049-01331737769-01331794812- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013104.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01331715891-01331724102-01331724294- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013065.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13065">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331715891-01331724102-01331724294-01331726353- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013066.html">[Mageia-dev] NEEDHELP Bugzilla keyword
+</A><A NAME="13066">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331716220- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013058.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="13058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331716220-01331727731- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013068.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="13068">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331716220-01331727731-01331745168- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013091.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="13091">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331716292- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013059.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331716292-01331720119- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013060.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331716292-01331720119-01331722306- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013061.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331716292-01331720119-01331722306-01331722991- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013062.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331716292-01331720119-01331722306-01331722991-01331729058- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013069.html">[Mageia-dev] task-gnome-minimal: depend on X somehow?
+</A><A NAME="13069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331730714- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013070.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's package
+</A><A NAME="13070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331732144- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013096.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: cpuid
+</A><A NAME="13096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331732144-01331822722- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013110.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: cpuid
+</A><A NAME="13110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331732144-01331822722-01331823067- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013113.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: cpuid
+</A><A NAME="13113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331735205- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013072.html">[Mageia-dev] March 13th, 2012 VirtualBox 4.1.10 released!
+</A><A NAME="13072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331735205-01331736096- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013073.html">[Mageia-dev] March 13th, 2012 VirtualBox 4.1.10 released!
+</A><A NAME="13073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331737263- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013074.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331737263-01331737816- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013075.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331737263-01331737816-01331738171- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013077.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13077">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331737263-01331737816-01331738171-01331738753- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013080.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331737263-01331737816-01331738171-01331738753-01331740618- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013083.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13083">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331737263-01331737816-01331738171-01331738753-01331740618-01331741013- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013084.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331737263-01331737816-01331738171-01331738753-01331740618-01331741013-01331741922- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013086.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331737263-01331737816-01331738171-01331738753-01331740618-01331741013-01331741922-01331742503- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013089.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kira
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331737263-01331737816-01331738171-01331738753-01331740618-01331741013-01331741922-01331745598- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013092.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13092">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331737263-01331737816-01331738171-01331738753-01331740618-01331741013-01331741922-01331745598-01331745833- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013093.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13093">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331737263-01331737816-01331738171-01331738753-01331740618-01331741013-01331741922-01331745598-01331745833-01331746427- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013094.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13094">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331737263-01331737816-01331738171-01331738753-01331740618-01331741013-01331741922-01331745598-01331745833-01331746427-01331747622- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013095.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13095">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331737263-01331738075- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013076.html">[Mageia-dev] Fatal errors with rpm
+</A><A NAME="13076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331738583- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013079.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331738583-01331738757- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013081.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13081">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331738583-01331738757-01331741505- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013085.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331738583-01331739110- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013082.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13082">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331738583-01331739110-01331742200- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013087.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331738583-01331739110-01331742200-01331760277- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013102.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3455] update changelog
+</A><A NAME="13102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331742390- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013088.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3457] add html file, images and css
+</A><A NAME="13088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331742390-01331742975- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013090.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3457] add html file, images and css
+</A><A NAME="13090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331742804- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013099.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin
+</A><A NAME="13099">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331742804-01331759705- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013100.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin
+</A><A NAME="13100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331749768- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013097.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Dealing with GTK 3.3.18 scrolling handling	changes for GNOME 3.4
+</A><A NAME="13097">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331749768-01331759824- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013101.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Dealing with GTK 3.3.18 scrolling handling changes for GNOME 3.4
+</A><A NAME="13101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331809447- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013105.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3484] SILENT : bump VERSION (in	Makefile)
+</A><A NAME="13105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331809447-01331812554- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013106.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3484] SILENT : bump VERSION (in Makefile)
+</A><A NAME="13106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331809447-01331812554-01331813789- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013107.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3484] SILENT : bump VERSION (in Makefile)
+</A><A NAME="13107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331821540- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013108.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>n54 at gmx.com
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331821540-01331828739- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013114.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331821540-01331842036- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013128.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331821540-01331842036-01331844074- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013130.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331821540-01331842036-01331844074-01331846134- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013136.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331821540-01331842036-01331844074-01331846134-01331846632- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013137.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331821540-01331842036-01331844074-01331846134-01331847851- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013138.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331821540-01331842036-01331844074-01331846134-01331847851-01331848483- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013140.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331821540-01331842036-01331844074-01331846134-01331847851-01331848483-01331848696- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013141.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331821540-01331842036-01331844074-01331846134-01331847851-01331848483-01331887557- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013153.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13153">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01331821540-01331842036-01331856624- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013143.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331821540-01331842036-01331856624-01331888527- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013157.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13157">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331821540-01332722193- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013534.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push mgaonline
+</A><A NAME="13534">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331828934- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013115.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3483] - stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org ( mga#1590)
+</A><A NAME="13115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331828934-01331832070- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013117.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3483] - stop using Mandriva URLs and replace them by www.mageia.org ( mga#1590)
+</A><A NAME="13117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331837572- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013120.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331837572-01331837584- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013121.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331837572-01331837584-01331839361- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013123.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331837572-01331837584-01331839361-01331840416- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013126.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331837572-01331837584-01331839361-01331840416-01331889005- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013159.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13159">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331837572-01331837584-01331839361-01331888996- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013158.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: setup
+</A><A NAME="13158">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331839244- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013122.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3526] make clean-rpmsrate 11. 5% faster on average on cached repo directory by
+</A><A NAME="13122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331839244-01331839673- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013124.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3526] make clean-rpmsrate 11. 5% faster on average on cached repo directory by
+</A><A NAME="13124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331840749- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013127.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331840749-01331860075- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013144.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331840749-01331860075-01331887697- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013154.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13154">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331840749-01331860075-01331887697-01331895387- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013161.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13161">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>tux99-mga at uridium.org
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331840749-01331860075-01331887697-01331895387-01331897151- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013162.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13162">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331840749-01331898282- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013163.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 Beta 2 is available
+</A><A NAME="13163">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331843221- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013129.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push openvpn
+</A><A NAME="13129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331843221-01331904866- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013168.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push openvpn
+</A><A NAME="13168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331843221-01331904866-01331925479- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013181.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push openvpn
+</A><A NAME="13181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331844889- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013132.html">[Mageia-dev] Sysadmin please remove from cauldron maniadrive-data
+</A><A NAME="13132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331845107- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013134.html">[Mageia-dev] kmail losing e-mails ?
+</A><A NAME="13134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331845361- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013135.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331845361-01331882718- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013149.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331845361-01331882718-01331917742- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013178.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331845361-01331882718-01331917742-01331921927- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013180.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13180">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331845361-01331882718-01331917742-01331921927-01332157822- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013209.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331845361-01331882718-01331917742-01331921927-01332157822-01332185845- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013237.html">[Mageia-dev] new urpmi release ?
+</A><A NAME="13237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331847946- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013139.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers team elections
+</A><A NAME="13139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331847946-01332241681- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013261.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers team elections
+</A><A NAME="13261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331847946-01332242075- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013262.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers team elections
+</A><A NAME="13262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331847946-01332242075-01332242523- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013263.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers team elections
+</A><A NAME="13263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331853864- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013142.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mariadb (beta)
+</A><A NAME="13142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331853864-01331914924- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013177.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mariadb (beta)
+</A><A NAME="13177">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331864728- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013146.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm: [211805] Split themes and i18n as	stand-alone packages
+</A><A NAME="13146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331865375- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013147.html">[Mageia-dev] php pear mga2 upgrade issues (file conflicts)
+</A><A NAME="13147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331865375-01331882991- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013150.html">[Mageia-dev] php pear mga2 upgrade issues (file conflicts)
+</A><A NAME="13150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331865375-01331882991-01333097378- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013707.html">[Mageia-dev] php pear mga2 upgrade issues (file conflicts)
+</A><A NAME="13707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331869502- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013148.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd network.service issues
+</A><A NAME="13148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331869502-01331899952- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013165.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd network.service issues
+</A><A NAME="13165">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01331869502-01331901935- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013166.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd network.service issues
+</A><A NAME="13166">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331869502-01331901935-01331905135- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013169.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd network.service issues
+</A><A NAME="13169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331883446- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013151.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331883446-01331887902- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013155.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13155">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331883446-01331887902-01331906145- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013171.html">[Mageia-dev] [systemd error flag] Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331883446-01331887902-01331906145-01331907698- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013173.html">[Mageia-dev] [systemd error flag] Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331883446-01331891208- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013160.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13160">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frederik Himpe
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331883446-01331891208-01331906075- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013170.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	nginx-1.0.10-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331907026- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013172.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331907026-01332153952- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013204.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13204">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331907026-01332153952-01332154021- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013205.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13205">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01331907026-01332155069- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013206.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13206">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331907026-01332155069-01332155258- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013207.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: nginx
+</A><A NAME="13207">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331928997- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013182.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker, perl-URPM
+</A><A NAME="13182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331928997-01331929106- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013183.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker, perl-URPM
+</A><A NAME="13183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331928997-01331929106-01331968886- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013186.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker, perl-URPM
+</A><A NAME="13186">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331928997-01331929106-01331968886-01331970277- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013187.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker, perl-URPM
+</A><A NAME="13187">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331936035- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013184.html">[Mageia-dev] [bugs] [Bug 3466] Add radeon-firmware in the Isos or add radeon.modeset=0 option
+</A><A NAME="13184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01331973171- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013188.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox 11?
+</A><A NAME="13188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331973171-01331977020- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013189.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox 11?
+</A><A NAME="13189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331982636- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013191.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: minitube
+</A><A NAME="13191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331982636-01332318816- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013294.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: minitube
+</A><A NAME="13294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331982636-01332318816-01332323653- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013301.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: minitube
+</A><A NAME="13301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331982737- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013192.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: fsarchiver
+</A><A NAME="13192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331982737-01332318801- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013293.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: fsarchiver
+</A><A NAME="13293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331982737-01332318801-01332323607- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013300.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: fsarchiver
+</A><A NAME="13300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01331983879- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013193.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01331983879-01332158981- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013211.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01331983879-01332158981-01332159535- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013213.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01331983879-01332158981-01332159535-01332159905- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013214.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01331983879-01332158981-01332159535-01332159905-01332160478- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013217.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: ffmpeg 0.10.2
+</A><A NAME="13217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332002498- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013194.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332002498-01332002613- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013195.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332002498-01332002613-01332002889- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013196.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01332002498-01332002613-01332013175- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013197.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332002498-01332366978- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013333.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13333">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332002498-01332366978-01332367327- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013334.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13334">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332002498-01332366978-01332367327-01332368259- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013336.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13336">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332002498-01332366978-01332367327-01332368259-01332369968- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013338.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13338">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332002498-01332366978-01332367327-01332368259-01332369968-01332379728- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013343.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13343">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332002498-01332366978-01332367327-01332368259-01332369968-01332379728-01332401321- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013353.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13353">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332002498-01332366978-01332367327-01332368259-01332370483- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013339.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Thunderbird
+</A><A NAME="13339">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332062688- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013198.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332062688-01332064274- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013199.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332062688-01332064274-01332066979- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013200.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13200">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01332062688-01332064274-01332605262- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013462.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13462">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332062688-01332064274-01332605262-01332616895- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013466.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13466">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01332062688-01332064274-01332761032- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013542.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3550] Kill unionfs support
+</A><A NAME="13542">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332148447- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013201.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13201">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332148447-01332151579- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013203.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13203">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332148447-01332151579-01332155866- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013208.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332148447-01332151579-01332155866-01332171351- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013224.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332148447-01332151579-01332155866-01332192125- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013242.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332148447-01332151579-01332155866-01332192125-01332258975- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013274.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332148447-01332151579-01332155866-01332192125-01332258975-01332260863- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013275.html">[Mageia-dev] autoselecting a driver for some hardware
+</A><A NAME="13275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332149269- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013202.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13202">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332149269-01332267704- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013277.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332149269-01332267704-01332345467- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013322.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332149269-01332267704-01332345467-01332345627- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013323.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332149269-01332267704-01332345467-01332371460- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013341.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13341">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332149269-01332267704-01332345467-01332371460-01332768384- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013546.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13546">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332149269-01332267704-01332345467-01332371460-01332768384-01332769311- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013548.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME 3.3.92 submission
+</A><A NAME="13548">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332159395- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013212.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd 44
+</A><A NAME="13212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332159395-01332160226- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013215.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd 44
+</A><A NAME="13215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332159395-01332160226-01332175432- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013228.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd 44
+</A><A NAME="13228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332160364- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013216.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332160364-01332160593- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013218.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332160364-01332160593-01332161358- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013220.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332160364-01332160593-01332161358-01332162124- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013222.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332160364-01332160593-01332161358-01332162338- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013223.html">[Mageia-dev] systemd service file update message
+</A><A NAME="13223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332168484- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013225.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm db issues
+</A><A NAME="13225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Scott Chevalley
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332168484-01332175412- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013229.html">[Mageia-dev] rpm db issues
+</A><A NAME="13229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332172961- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013226.html">[Mageia-dev] [692] - import stage1/drakxtools mips support
+</A><A NAME="13226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332172961-01332174465- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013227.html">[Mageia-dev] [692] - import stage1/drakxtools mips support
+</A><A NAME="13227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Arnaud Patard (Rtp)
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332172961-01332174465-01332176409- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013230.html">[Mageia-dev] [692] - import stage1/drakxtools mips support
+</A><A NAME="13230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332175058- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013231.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="13231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332175058-01332187887- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013239.html">[Mageia-dev] Package push request: oxygen-gtk and oxygen-gtk3
+</A><A NAME="13239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332183834- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013232.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	ldetect-0.12.1-5.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332183834-01332184334- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013234.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	ldetect-0.12.1-5.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332183887- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013233.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker
+</A><A NAME="13233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332183887-01332185746- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013236.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker
+</A><A NAME="13236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332187828- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013238.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: urpmi
+</A><A NAME="13238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332190106- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013240.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: udisks2
+</A><A NAME="13240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332190106-01332712518- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013523.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: udisks2
+</A><A NAME="13523">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332190106-01332712518-01332712879- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013524.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: udisks2
+</A><A NAME="13524">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332190251- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013241.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332190251-01332318186- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013289.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332190251-01332318186-01332319636- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013295.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332190251-01332318186-01332319636-01332319950- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013296.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332190251-01332318186-01332319636-01332319950-01332322242- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013297.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332190251-01332318186-01332319636-01332319950-01332322242-01332420610- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013372.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332190251-01332318186-01332319636-01332319950-01332322242-01332420610-01332424093- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013378.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332190251-01332318186-01332319636-01332319950-01332322242-01332420610-01332424093-01332424847- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013380.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: systemd
+</A><A NAME="13380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332193651- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013243.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: gdm pam changes
+</A><A NAME="13243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332193651-01332193745- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013244.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: gdm pam changes
+</A><A NAME="13244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332193651-01332193745-01332194102- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013245.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: gdm pam changes
+</A><A NAME="13245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332195183- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013246.html">[Mageia-dev] Banshee 2.4.0 security push
+</A><A NAME="13246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332195183-01332422532- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013374.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: Banshee 2.4.0 security push
+</A><A NAME="13374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332197069- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013247.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging help for GDM+GNOME Mageia background	(long)
+</A><A NAME="13247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332201857- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013248.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332201857-01332328561- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013304.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332201857-01332328561-01332329817- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013305.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332201857-01332328561-01332329817-01332335069- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013307.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332201857-01332328561-01332329817-01332335069-01332336844- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013309.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332201857-01332328561-01332329817-01332335069-01332336844-01332339271- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013312.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332201857-01332328561-01332329817-01332335069-01332336844-01332339271-01332340217- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013314.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332201857-01332328561-01332329817-01332335069-01332336844-01332339271-01332340217-01332343229- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013318.html">[Mageia-dev] urpmi problem in iurt in cauldron host?
+</A><A NAME="13318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332220492- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013249.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: vlc-2.0.1
+</A><A NAME="13249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332220492-01332224789- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013250.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: vlc-2.0.1
+</A><A NAME="13250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332228420- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013251.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="13251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332228420-01332232597- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013254.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="13254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332228420-01332232597-01332234082- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013256.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="13256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332228420-01332232597-01332234082-01332244515- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013265.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	vlc-2.0.1-1.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="13265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332229278- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013252.html">[Mageia-dev] xfce still using iaora
+</A><A NAME="13252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332231215- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013253.html">[Mageia-dev] cgroup on the desktop
+</A><A NAME="13253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332231215-01332347043- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013324.html">[Mageia-dev] cgroup on the desktop
+</A><A NAME="13324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332231215-01332347043-01332347538- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013325.html">[Mageia-dev] cgroup on the desktop
+</A><A NAME="13325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332233402- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013255.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332233402-01332448526- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013402.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332233402-01332448526-01332451833- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013410.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332233402-01332448526-01332451833-01332452033- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013411.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332233402-01332448526-01332451833-01332452033-01332452340- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013413.html">[Mageia-dev] Latest kernels vs IDE/libata
+</A><A NAME="13413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332234316- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013257.html">[Mageia-dev] lm_sensors update for newer kernels
+</A><A NAME="13257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332234316-01332381338- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013346.html">[Mageia-dev] lm_sensors update for newer kernels (tmb)
+</A><A NAME="13346">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332234316-01332381338-01332977109- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013633.html">[Mageia-dev] lm_sensors update for newer kernels (tmb)
+</A><A NAME="13633">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332236214- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013258.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332236214-01332366560- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013332.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13332">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332236214-01332366560-01332458132- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013415.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332236214-01332366560-01332458132-01332711508- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013519.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13519">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332236328- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013259.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libdvdcss
+</A><A NAME="13259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332236328-01332368779- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013337.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libdvdcss
+</A><A NAME="13337">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332236706- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013260.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-applet update for KDE 4.8.1
+</A><A NAME="13260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332242946- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013264.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers election
+</A><A NAME="13264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332244812- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013266.html">[Mageia-dev] bumblebee software and packages
+</A><A NAME="13266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332244812-01332287777- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013284.html">[Mageia-dev] bumblebee software and packages
+</A><A NAME="13284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332249962- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013267.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-10.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332249962-01332253761- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013268.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	task-obsolete-2-10.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332253782- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013269.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	oxygen-gtk-1.2.1-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332256163- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013270.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332256163-01332256930- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013271.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332256163-01332257672- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013272.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332256163-01332257672-01332257990- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013273.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	java-1.5.0-gcj-1.5.0.0-17.1.24.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332274980- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013278.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: Reviving AppStream and current status
+</A><A NAME="13278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332276685- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013279.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332276685-01332276826- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013280.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332283417- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013281.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: icedtea-web
+</A><A NAME="13281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332283417-01332318250- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013290.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: icedtea-web
+</A><A NAME="13290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332284414- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013282.html">[Mageia-dev] Pleash push postfix
+</A><A NAME="13282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332284414-01332322485- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013298.html">[Mageia-dev] Pleash push postfix
+</A><A NAME="13298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332286360- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013283.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer stage2
+</A><A NAME="13283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332286360-01332318360- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013291.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer stage2
+</A><A NAME="13291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332286360-01332322676- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013299.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-installer stage2
+</A><A NAME="13299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332291467- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013285.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with	drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332291467-01332293793- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013286.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332291467-01332293793-01332315660- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013288.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with	drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332291467-01332293793-01332315660-01332386601- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013349.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13349">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01332291467-01332293793-01332975604- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013632.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with	drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13632">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332291467-01332293793-01332975604-01332985236- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013635.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with	drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13635">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332291467-01332293793-01332975604-01332985236-01333093303- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013697.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332291467-01332293793-01332975604-01332987762- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013636.html">[Mageia-dev] unable to mount encrypted partitions created with drakdisk
+</A><A NAME="13636">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332298954- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013287.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libtasn1, gnutls
+</A><A NAME="13287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332298954-01332318464- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013292.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libtasn1, gnutls
+</A><A NAME="13292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332327255- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013303.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332327255-01332351753- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013326.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332327255-01332381971- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013348.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13348">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332327255-01332381971-01332445813- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013400.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01332327255-01332381971-01332463467- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013425.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332336797- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013308.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332336797-01332337471- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013310.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332336797-01332337471-01332343524- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013319.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332336797-01332337471-01332343524-01332344475- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013321.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332336797-01332337471-01332343524-01332344475-01332364635- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013331.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332336797-01332337471-01332343524-01332344475-01332364635-01332381798- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013347.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13347">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332336797-01332337471-01332343524-01332344475-01332364635-01332381798-01332974349- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013630.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13630">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>simple w8
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332336797-01332337471-01332343524-01332344475-01332364635-01332381798-01332974349-01333053339- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013673.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive missing files/apps in Mageia
+</A><A NAME="13673">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332337523- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013311.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia-dev Digest, Vol 19, Issue 116
+</A><A NAME="13311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Brett
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332339107- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013313.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi (David Sj?lin)
+</A><A NAME="13313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>brett
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332339107-01332356421- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013328.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia ARM on Raspberry Pi (David Sj?lin)
+</A><A NAME="13328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332342430- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013315.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze pus: firefox
+</A><A NAME="13315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332342430-01332342948- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013316.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze pus: firefox
+</A><A NAME="13316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332342430-01332342948-01332343132- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013317.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze pus: firefox
+</A><A NAME="13317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332342430-01332342948-01332343132-01332343585- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013320.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze pus: firefox
+</A><A NAME="13320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332349676- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013327.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332349676-01332368233- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013335.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13335">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332349676-01332368233-01332368487- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013340.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13340">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332349676-01332368233-01332368487-01332780451- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013552.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13552">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332349676-01332893123- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013574.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13574">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332349676-01332893123-01332924591- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013580.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13580">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332349676-01332893123-01332924591-01332927543- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013589.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13589">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332349676-01332893123-01332924591-01332927543-01333027441- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013653.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13653">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332349676-01332893123-01332924591-01332927543-01333027441-01333040483- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013654.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libgexiv2 and shotwell
+</A><A NAME="13654">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332357716- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013329.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request: urpmi-proxy-0.3.2
+</A><A NAME="13329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332363534- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013330.html">[Mageia-dev] Tracker for security updates
+</A><A NAME="13330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332372653- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013342.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13342">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332372653-01332402014- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013355.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13355">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332372653-01332402014-01332405063- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013357.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13357">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332372653-01332402014-01332405063-01332409544- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013363.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13363">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332402014-01332405063-01332409544-01332409693- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013364.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13364">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332402014-01332405063-01332409544-01332409693-01332418070- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013369.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13369">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332402014-01332405063-01332409544-01332416962- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013367.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13367">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332402014-01332405063-01332409544-01332418826- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013377.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332402014-01332405063-01332409544-01332418826-01332428482- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013386.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332402014-01332405063-01332409544-01332418826-01332428482-01332428709- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013387.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332402014-01332405063-01332409544-01332418826-01332428482-01332428709-01332428789- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013388.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332402014-01332405063-01332409544-01332418826-01332428482-01332428709-01332428789-01332435449- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013395.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332402014-01332405063-01332409544-01332418826-01332428482-01332428709-01332428789-01332435449-01332439447- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013397.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332402014-01332405063-01332409544-01332418826-01332428482-01332428709-01332428789-01332435449-01332439447-01332466483- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013427.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332402014-01332405063-01332409544-01332418826-01332433780- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013394.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01332372653-01332402014-01332406167- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013359.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13359">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332372653-01332402014-01332406167-01332408412- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013361.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13361">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332402014-01332406167-01332408412-01332416573- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013366.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13366">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332402014-01332406167-01332408664- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013362.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13362">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332402014-01332406167-01332408664-01332415110- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013365.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13365">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01332372653-01332402014-01332439303- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013396.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332372653-01332459213- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013416.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332372653-01332459213-01332459849- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013417.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332372653-01332459213-01332459849-01332460727- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013419.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332372653-01332464906- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013426.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332372653-01332464906-01332487973- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013430.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332372653-01332464906-01332487973-01332495760- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013435.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332464906-01332487973-01332495760-01332499283- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013437.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332464906-01332487973-01332495760-01332499283-01332516138- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013439.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332464906-01332487973-01332495760-01332499283-01332516138-01332516432- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013440.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332464906-01332487973-01332495760-01332518457- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013442.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332464906-01332487973-01332495760-01332518457-01332520685- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013444.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332464906-01332487973-01332495760-01332518457-01332520685-01332521221- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013445.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332372653-01332464906-01332487973-01332495760-01332518457-01332520685-01332522643- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013446.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal
+</A><A NAME="13446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332380174- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013344.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	java-1.6.0-openjdk-1.6.0.0-24.b24.12.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13344">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332391007- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013350.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push
+</A><A NAME="13350">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332391007-01332398012- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013352.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push
+</A><A NAME="13352">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332391007-01332398012-01332467735- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013428.html">[Mageia-dev] Please push
+</A><A NAME="13428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332392375- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013351.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libpng12-1.2.48
+</A><A NAME="13351">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332392375-01332401978- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013354.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libpng12-1.2.48
+</A><A NAME="13354">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332402738- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013356.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: mesa
+</A><A NAME="13356">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332402738-01332417306- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013368.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: mesa
+</A><A NAME="13368">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332407667- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013360.html">[Mageia-dev] rescue has mount.nfs, but no statd
+</A><A NAME="13360">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332407667-01332444794- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013399.html">[Mageia-dev] rescue has mount.nfs, but no statd
+</A><A NAME="13399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332407667-01332444794-01332495295- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013434.html">[Mageia-dev] rescue has mount.nfs, but no statd
+</A><A NAME="13434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332407667-01332444794-01332495295-01332517935- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013441.html">[Mageia-dev] rescue has mount.nfs, but no statd
+</A><A NAME="13441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332418373- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013370.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13370">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332418373-01332419676- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013371.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13371">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332418373-01332419676-01333034891- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013648.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13648">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332422441- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013373.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and rebuild	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332422441-01332429631- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013390.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and rebuild drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332422441-01332429631-01332623040- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013468.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and rebuild drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13468">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332422441-01332429631-01332623040-01332673079- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013476.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and	rebuild	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13476">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332422441-01332429631-01332623040-01332673079-01332674349- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013480.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and rebuild	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13480">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332422441-01332429631-01332623040-01332673079-01332674349-01332674680- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013481.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help 2.2 and	rebuild	drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13481">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332423516- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013375.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332423516-01332423662- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013376.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332423516-01332423662-01332424181- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013379.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332423516-01332423662-01332424181-01332462886- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013422.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332423516-01332423662-01332424181-01332463211- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013423.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332423516-01332423662-01332424181-01332463211-01332463466- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013424.html">[Mageia-dev] please push libnetfilter_queue
+</A><A NAME="13424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332426533- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013381.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332426533-01332427401- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013382.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332426533-01332427613- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013383.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332426533-01332427613-01332428273- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013385.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332426533-01332428120- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013384.html">[Mageia-dev] KWin Segfault - sporatic
+</A><A NAME="13384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332429134- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013389.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia on Raspberry-Pi (ARM port)
+</A><A NAME="13389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>brett
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332429134-01332440771- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013398.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia on Raspberry-Pi (ARM port)
+</A><A NAME="13398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332431057- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013391.html">[Mageia-dev] New strings in drakx and urpmi - please do warn i18n
+</A><A NAME="13391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332431057-01332432139- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013392.html">[Mageia-dev] New strings in drakx and urpmi - please do warn	i18n
+</A><A NAME="13392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332431057-01332432381- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013393.html">[Mageia-dev] New strings in drakx and urpmi - please do warn	i18n
+</A><A NAME="13393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332446686- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013401.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: autojump
+</A><A NAME="13401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332446686-01332931648- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013586.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: autojump
+</A><A NAME="13586">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332448670- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013403.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-net
+</A><A NAME="13403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332448670-01332448888- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013404.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakx-net
+</A><A NAME="13404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332450485- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013406.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332450485-01332450939- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013407.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332450485-01332450939-01332451640- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013409.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332450485-01332450939-01332451640-01332452204- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013412.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332450485-01332450939-01332451640-01332452204-01332456856- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013414.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332450485-01332450939-01332451640-01332452204-01332456856-01332471909- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013429.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	radeon-firmware-20120322-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="13429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332450987- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013408.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug off!
+</A><A NAME="13408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332450987-01332517757- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013443.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug off!
+</A><A NAME="13443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Karel Roth
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332460239- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013418.html">[Mageia-dev] [push] gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
+</A><A NAME="13418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332460239-01332461805- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013420.html">[Mageia-dev] [push] gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
+</A><A NAME="13420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332460239-01332461805-01332488314- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013431.html">[Mageia-dev] [push] gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
+</A><A NAME="13431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332460239-01332461805-01332488314-01332500405- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013438.html">[Mageia-dev] [push] gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly
+</A><A NAME="13438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332462692- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013421.html">[Mageia-dev] New security issues affect libzip and php (freeze push	will be needed)
+</A><A NAME="13421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332462692-01332488341- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013432.html">[Mageia-dev] New security issues affect libzip and php (freeze push will be needed)
+</A><A NAME="13432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332462692-01332488432- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013433.html">[Mageia-dev] New security issues affect libzip and php (freeze push will be needed)
+</A><A NAME="13433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332462692-01332488432-01332863639- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013564.html">[Mageia-dev] New security issues affect libzip and php (freeze	push will be needed)
+</A><A NAME="13564">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332495189- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013436.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] compiz 0.9.7.2
+</A><A NAME="13436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332495189-01332593648- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013461.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] compiz 0.9.7.2
+</A><A NAME="13461">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332495189-01332593648-01332670263- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013472.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] compiz 0.9.7.2
+</A><A NAME="13472">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332524344- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013447.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB: problem: final estimated release date
+</A><A NAME="13447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332524344-01332527641- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013448.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB: problem: final estimated release date
+</A><A NAME="13448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332524344-01332527641-01332712101- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013521.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB: problem: final estimated release date
+</A><A NAME="13521">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332524344-01332527641-01332712101-01332757206- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013539.html">[Mageia-dev] MariaDB: problem: final estimated release date
+</A><A NAME="13539">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332536196- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013449.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakxtools and drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332536196-01332536770- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013450.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakxtools and drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332536196-01332536770-01332537893- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013451.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakxtools and drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332536196-01332537959- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013452.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: drakxtools and drakx-installer-stage2
+</A><A NAME="13452">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332551897- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013453.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13453">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332551897-01332580832- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013457.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13457">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332551897-01332580832-01332615794- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013464.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13464">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hugo Pereira Da Costa
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332551897-01332580832-01332615794-01332678596- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013486.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13486">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332551897-01332580832-01332615794-01332686876- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013490.html">[Mageia-dev] Push request : oxygen -gtk
+</A><A NAME="13490">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332565288- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013454.html">[Mageia-dev] mf2pt1
+</A><A NAME="13454">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332565288-01332580989- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013459.html">[Mageia-dev] mf2pt1
+</A><A NAME="13459">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332565288-01332580989-01332610176- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013463.html">[Mageia-dev] mf2pt1
+</A><A NAME="13463">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332566327- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013455.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: raptor2
+</A><A NAME="13455">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332566327-01332580964- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013458.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: raptor2
+</A><A NAME="13458">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332572571- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013456.html">[Mageia-dev] reeze push: drakconf
+</A><A NAME="13456">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332572571-01332672795- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013474.html">[Mageia-dev] reeze push: drakconf
+</A><A NAME="13474">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332572571-01332672795-01332672894- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013475.html">[Mageia-dev] reeze push: drakconf
+</A><A NAME="13475">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332594666- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013460.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13460">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332594666-01332676173- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013483.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13483">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332594666-01332676173-01332778626- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013550.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13550">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332594666-01332780024- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013551.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13551">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332594666-01332780024-01332787701- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013555.html">[Mageia-dev] [Freeze Push] liferea 1.8.3
+</A><A NAME="13555">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332616403- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013465.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13465">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332616403-01332617766- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013467.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13467">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332616403-01332617766-01332629397- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013469.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13469">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332616403-01332617766-01332629397-01332631296- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013470.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13470">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332616403-01332617766-01332629397-01332631296-01332688044- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013493.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13493">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332616403-01332617766-01332629397-01332631296-01332733174- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013536.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13536">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332616403-01332617766-01332629397-01332631296-01332733174-01332758203- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013540.html">[Mageia-dev] freez push clamav-0.97.4
+</A><A NAME="13540">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332653783- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013471.html">[Mageia-dev] MTRR problem
+</A><A NAME="13471">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Filipe Saraiva
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332672529- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013473.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13473">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332672529-01332673481- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013477.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13477">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332672529-01332673481-01332674324- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013479.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13479">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332672529-01332673481-01332674324-01332675266- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013482.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13482">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332672529-01332673481-01332674324-01332675266-01332678199- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013484.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	drakx-installer-stage2-14.1-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13484">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332674262- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013478.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push request: scite
+</A><A NAME="13478">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matteo
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332674262-01332698186- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013507.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push request: scite
+</A><A NAME="13507">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332678556- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013485.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug squash party update
+</A><A NAME="13485">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332678556-01332683828- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013488.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug squash party update
+</A><A NAME="13488">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>R&#233;mi Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332678556-01332686553- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013489.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug squash party update
+</A><A NAME="13489">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332678556-01332686553-01332738279- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013537.html">[Mageia-dev] Bug squash party update
+</A><A NAME="13537">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332679681- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013487.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13487">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332679681-01332687117- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013492.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13492">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332679681-01332687117-01332688844- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013494.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13494">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332679681-01332687117-01332688844-01332691638- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013496.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13496">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332679681-01332687117-01332688844-01332691638-01332692140- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013497.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13497">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332679681-01332687117-01332688844-01332691638-01332692140-01332695499- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013503.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13503">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332679681-01332687117-01332688844-01332691638-01332692140-01332695499-01332696235- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013504.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13504">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332679681-01332687117-01332688844-01332691638-01332692140-01332695499-01332696235-01332696391- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013505.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13505">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332679681-01332687117-01332688844-01332691638-01332692140-01332695499-01332696235-01332696391-01332702909- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013509.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13509">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332679681-01332687117-01332688844-01332691638-01332692140-01332695499-01332696235-01332696391-01332702909-01332705205- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013510.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13510">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332679681-01332687117-01332688844-01332691638-01332692140-01332695499-01332696235-01332696391-01332702909-01332705205-01332710192- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013517.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13517">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332679681-01332687117-01332688844-01332691638-01332692140-01332695499-01332696235-01332696391-01332702909-01332705205-01332710192-01332711091- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013518.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13518">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332679681-01332687117-01332688844-01332691638-01332692140-01332695499-01332696235-01332696391-01332702909-01332705205-01332710192-01332711091-01332712041- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013520.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13520">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332679681-01332687117-01332688844-01332691638-01332692140-01332695499-01332696235-01332696391-01332702909-01332705205-01332710192-01332711091-01332760174- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013541.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13541">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332679681-01332687117-01332688844-01332691638-01332712378- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013522.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13522">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01332679681-01332687117-01332689327- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013501.html">[Mageia-dev] mass rebuild for Mga 2 ?
+</A><A NAME="13501">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332687030- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013491.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13491">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332687030-01332692191- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013498.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13498">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332687030-01332692191-01332692296- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013499.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13499">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332687030-01332692191-01332692296-01332698018- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013506.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13506">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332687030-01332692191-01332692296-01332698018-01332698320- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013508.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push request QuaZip 0.4.4
+</A><A NAME="13508">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332689141- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013495.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push - drakx-installer-help
+</A><A NAME="13495">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01332693355- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013500.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13500">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332693355-01332705352- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013512.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13512">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332693355-01332705742- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013514.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13514">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332693355-01332705742-01332707196- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013516.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13516">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332693355-01332705742-01332707196-01332749681- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013538.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13538">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332695171- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013502.html">[Mageia-dev] libgphoto version: freeze buster?
+</A><A NAME="13502">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332695171-01332768005- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013545.html">[Mageia-dev] libgphoto version: freeze buster?
+</A><A NAME="13545">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332695171-01332768005-01332768765- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013547.html">[Mageia-dev] libgphoto version: freeze buster?
+</A><A NAME="13547">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332705306- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013511.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13511">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332705306-01332705419- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013513.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13513">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332705306-01332705419-01332706103- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013515.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [226393] Migrate grub bootsplash params to new style: 'splash quiet' rather than 'splash=silent' (mga#3430)
+</A><A NAME="13515">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332713477- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013525.html">[Mageia-dev] Too late for this ? (cairo 1.12)
+</A><A NAME="13525">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332713477-01332714918- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013526.html">[Mageia-dev] Too late for this ? (cairo 1.12)
+</A><A NAME="13526">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332713477-01332714918-01332716355- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013527.html">[Mageia-dev] Too late for this ? (cairo 1.12)
+</A><A NAME="13527">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332713477-01332714918-01332716355-01332718172- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013529.html">[Mageia-dev] Too late for this ? (cairo 1.12)
+</A><A NAME="13529">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332717592- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013528.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="13528">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332717592-01332718263- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013530.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: rsyslog
+</A><A NAME="13530">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332718297- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013531.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker
+</A><A NAME="13531">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332718297-01332718607- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013532.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: perl_checker
+</A><A NAME="13532">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332719827- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013533.html">[Mageia-dev] How should packages with version in name be handled?
+</A><A NAME="13533">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332719827-01332763921- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013544.html">[Mageia-dev] How should packages with version in name be	handled?
+</A><A NAME="13544">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332723380- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013535.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13535">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332723380-01333184918- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013752.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332723380-01333184918-01333191641- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013760.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332723380-01333201816- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013761.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332723380-01333201816-01333222405- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013767.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE configuration file regressions
+</A><A NAME="13767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332763806- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013543.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3800] (plog_init) enable	perl_checker to check callers
+</A><A NAME="13543">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332763806-01332775684- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013549.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3800] (plog_init) enable perl_checker to check callers
+</A><A NAME="13549">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332784016- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013553.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13553">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332784016-01332784381- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013554.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13554">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332784016-01332790195- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013556.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13556">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332784016-01332790195-01332875404- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013570.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13570">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332784016-01332790195-01332875404-01333100495- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013714.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Samuel Verschelde
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332784016-01332790195-01332875404-01333100495-01333218221- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013762.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332784016-01332961169- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013622.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13622">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332784016-01332961169-01333015982- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013644.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape	for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13644">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332784016-01332961169-01333015982-01333018794- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013743.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape	for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332784016-01332961169-01333015982-01333054482- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013675.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] How to proceed with seamonkey/iceape for	security updates and freeze push
+</A><A NAME="13675">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332793956- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013557.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: urpmi &amp; rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13557">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332793956-01332794148- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013558.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: urpmi &amp; rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13558">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332839366- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013559.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: syntek
+</A><A NAME="13559">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332839366-01332836074- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013560.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: syntek
+</A><A NAME="13560">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332839366-01332836074-01332851240- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013561.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: syntek
+</A><A NAME="13561">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332852391- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013562.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: opera-11.62
+</A><A NAME="13562">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332852391-01332860257- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013563.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: opera-11.62
+</A><A NAME="13563">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332863769- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013565.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13565">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332863769-01332892621- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013572.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13572">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332863769-01332892621-01332893572- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013573.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13573">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332863769-01332892621-01332893572-01332913332- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013575.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13575">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332863769-01332892621-01332893572-01332913332-01332916503- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013576.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13576">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332863769-01332892621-01332893572-01332913332-01332916503-01332943536- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013594.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: printer-applet
+</A><A NAME="13594">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332872394- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013566.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: sympa
+</A><A NAME="13566">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332872394-01332873471- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013567.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: sympa
+</A><A NAME="13567">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332874033- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013568.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13568">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332874033-01332874124- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013569.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13569">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332874033-01332938786- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013591.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13591">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332874033-01332938786-01332940678- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013593.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13593">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332874033-01332938786-01332940678-01332946655- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013597.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13597">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01332874033-01332938786-01332945526- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013595.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13595">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332874033-01332938786-01332945526-01332946435- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013596.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13596">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332874033-01332938786-01332945526-01332946435-01332948660- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013598.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13598">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332874033-01332938786-01332945526-01332946435-01332948660-01332949579- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013599.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13599">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332874033-01332938786-01332945526-01332977322- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013634.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13634">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332874033-01332938786-01332945526-01332977322-01332996185- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013638.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13638">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332874033-01332938786-01332945526-01332977322-01332996185-01333010343- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013639.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13639">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332874033-01332938786-01332945526-01332977322-01333016634- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013645.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13645">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332874033-01332938786-01332945526-01332977322-01333075810- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013685.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332874033-01332938786-01332945526-01332977322-01333075810-01333076700- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013686.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332874033-01332938786-01332945526-01332977322-01333075810-01333076700-01333077757- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013687.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332874033-01332938786-01332945526-01332977322-01333075810-01333076700-01333078532- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013688.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332874033-01332938786-01332945526-01332977322-01333075810-01333076700-01333078532-01333111774- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013721.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332874033-01332938786-01332945526-01332977322-01333075810-01333076700-01333078532-01333114629- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013726.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332874033-01332938786-01332945526-01332977322-01333075810-01333076700-01333078532-01333114629-01333116289- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013730.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332874033-01332938786-01332945526-01332977322-01333075810-01333076700-01333078532-01333114629-01333116289-01333119557- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013734.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332874033-01332938786-01332945526-01332977322-01333075810-01333076700-01333078532-01333114629-01333116289-01333119557-01333155597- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013747.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332874033-01332938802- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013592.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libmbfl
+</A><A NAME="13592">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332875491- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013571.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing in Action - 3G F5521gw
+</A><A NAME="13571">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332875491-01332922507- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013578.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing in Action - 3G F5521gw
+</A><A NAME="13578">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332875491-01332922507-01332952888- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013608.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing in Action - 3G F5521gw
+</A><A NAME="13608">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332917976- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013577.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin 2.10.3
+</A><A NAME="13577">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332917976-01332927776- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013587.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin 2.10.3
+</A><A NAME="13587">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332917976-01332931085- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013585.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: pidgin 2.10.3
+</A><A NAME="13585">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332924297- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013579.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	gdm-3.4.0.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13579">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332924297-01332924862- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013581.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	gdm-3.4.0.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13581">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332924297-01332924862-01332925597- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013583.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	gdm-3.4.0.1-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="13583">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332925146- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013582.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13582">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332925146-01332929617- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013584.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13584">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332925146-01332929617-01332949985- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013601.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13601">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332925146-01332929617-01332949985-01332966524- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013625.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13625">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332925146-01332952581- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013606.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: wireshark
+</A><A NAME="13606">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332933731- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013588.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: pidgin-sipe
+</A><A NAME="13588">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332933731-01333014362- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013646.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: pidgin-sipe
+</A><A NAME="13646">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332933731-01333014362-01333096267- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013703.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: pidgin-sipe
+</A><A NAME="13703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332936169- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013590.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13590">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332936169-01332949660- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013600.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="13600">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332950854- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013602.html">[Mageia-dev] Old library packages left on system after upgrade
+</A><A NAME="13602">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332950854-01332951073- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013603.html">[Mageia-dev] Old library packages left on system after upgrade
+</A><A NAME="13603">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332951043- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013604.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libzip (security update)
+</A><A NAME="13604">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332951043-01332953258- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013609.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libzip (security update)
+</A><A NAME="13609">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332951043-01332953372- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013611.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libzip (security update)
+</A><A NAME="13611">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332951043-01332953372-01332960669- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013620.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: libzip (security update)
+</A><A NAME="13620">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332951334- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013605.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13605">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332951334-01332953314- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013610.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push: pulseaudio
+</A><A NAME="13610">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332952726- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013623.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push, liferea 1.8.4
+</A><A NAME="13623">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332952726-01333045872- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013682.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push, liferea 1.8.4
+</A><A NAME="13682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332952726-01333045872-01333132148- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013741.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze Push, liferea 1.8.4
+</A><A NAME="13741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332952801- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013607.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13607">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332952801-01332955377- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013615.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13615">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332952801-01332955377-01332960049- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013619.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13619">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01332952801-01332955377-01332960049-01332966717- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013626.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13626">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332952801-01332955377-01332960049-01332966717-01332972118- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013628.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13628">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01332952801-01332955377-01332960049-01332966717-01332972118-01332973855- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013629.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13629">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01332952801-01332960883- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013621.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13621">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01332952801-01332975578- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013631.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation issues
+</A><A NAME="13631">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332952801-01332975578-01333042416- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013656.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE requires creep and other minimal installation	issues
+</A><A NAME="13656">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332953595- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013612.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13612">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332953595-01332954875- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013614.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: foomatic-filters
+</A><A NAME="13614">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332953718- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013613.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mpg123
+</A><A NAME="13613">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332953718-01332957979- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013616.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mpg123
+</A><A NAME="13616">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332959015- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013617.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: maradns
+</A><A NAME="13617">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332959015-01332959771- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013618.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: maradns
+</A><A NAME="13618">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332961634- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013624.html">[Mageia-dev] Shutdown button by default in Mageia 2 Gnome request
+</A><A NAME="13624">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332961634-01333014369- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013641.html">[Mageia-dev] Shutdown button by default in Mageia 2 Gnome	request
+</A><A NAME="13641">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332961634-01333014369-01333014423- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013642.html">[Mageia-dev] Shutdown button by default in Mageia 2 Gnome	request
+</A><A NAME="13642">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332967554- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013627.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13627">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01332967554-01333014255- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013640.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13640">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01332967554-01333014255-01333014987- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013643.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: rpmdrake
+</A><A NAME="13643">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01332992807- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013637.html">[Mageia-dev] php-channel-phpunit
+</A><A NAME="13637">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333028017- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013647.html">[Mageia-dev] about gnome-python-gtkmozembed
+</A><A NAME="13647">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333035128- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013649.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13649">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333035128-01333038944- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013650.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13650">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333035128-01333038944-01333039480- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013651.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13651">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333035128-01333038944-01333039480-01333040279- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013652.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13652">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Bertaux Xavier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01333035128-01333042540- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013658.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13658">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333035128-01333042540-01333043679- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013661.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13661">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013663.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13663">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013664.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13664">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013668.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13668">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013672.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13672">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013677.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13677">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756-01333094302- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013699.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756-01333094302-01333094796- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013700.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756-01333094302-01333094796-01333095034- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013701.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756-01333094302-01333094796-01333095034-01333096521- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013704.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756-01333094302-01333094796-01333095034-01333096521-01333096842- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013706.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756-01333094302-01333094796-01333095034-01333096521-01333096842-01333097471- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013708.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756-01333094302-01333094796-01333095034-01333096521-01333096842-01333097471-01333097550- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013710.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756-01333094302-01333094796-01333095034-01333096521-01333096842-01333097471-01333097550-01333098015- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013711.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756-01333094302-01333094796-01333095034-01333096521-01333096842-01333097471-01333098843- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013712.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756-01333094302-01333094796-01333095034-01333096521-01333096842-01333097494- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013709.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756-01333094302-01333094796-01333095034-01333099077- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013713.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756-01333094302-01333094796-01333095034-01333099077-01333100597- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013715.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756-01333094302-01333094796-01333095034-01333099077-01333100597-01333116022- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013727.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756-01333094302-01333094796-01333095034-01333099077-01333100597-01333116022-01333116246- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013729.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756-01333094302-01333094796-01333095034-01333099077-01333100597-01333116022-01333116246-01333128883- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013740.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756-01333094302-01333094796-01333095034-01333099077-01333100597-01333116022-01333121952- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013736.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756-01333094302-01333094796-01333095034-01333099077-01333100597-01333116022-01333121952-01333122695- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013739.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333054756-01333094302-01333096550- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013705.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333055214- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013679.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13679">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333055214-01333093926- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013698.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333055214-01333093926-01333107263- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013719.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333055214-01333093926-01333107263-01333111926- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013722.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333055214-01333093926-01333107263-01333111926-01333112694- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013723.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333055214-01333093926-01333107263-01333111926-01333112694-01333113086- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013724.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333055214-01333093926-01333107263-01333111926-01333112694-01333113086-01333113914- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013725.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333055214-01333093926-01333107263-01333111926-01333112694-01333113086-01333113914-01333116194- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013728.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333042540-01333045599-01333045974-01333048102-01333052585-01333055214-01333093926-01333107263-01333111926-01333112694-01333113086-01333113914-01333116194-01333122206- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013737.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01333035128-01333069418- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013683.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Eugeni Dodonov
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333035128-01333069418-01333088993- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013692.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333035128-01333069418-01333088993-01333103349- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013717.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333069418-01333088993-01333103349-01333106385- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013718.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333069418-01333088993-01333103349-01333106385-01333108247- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013720.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333035128-01333069418-01333088993-01333103349-01333106385-01333108247-01333136027- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013742.html">[Mageia-dev] Removal of sun java
+</A><A NAME="13742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333042328- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013655.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13655">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333042328-01333042430- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013657.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13657">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333042328-01333042430-01333043579- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013660.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13660">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01333042328-01333047009- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013665.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13665">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333042328-01333047009-01333047300- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013667.html">[Mageia-dev] packagers elections
+</A><A NAME="13667">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333043810- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013662.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: expat 2.1.0
+</A><A NAME="13662">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333043810-01333047070- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013666.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: expat 2.1.0
+</A><A NAME="13666">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333050724- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013669.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13669">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Emmanuel Andry
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333050724-01333073630- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013684.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333050724-01333073630-01333087455- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013691.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01333050724-01333073630-01333100929- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013716.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01333050724-01333073630-01333118103- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013732.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333051967- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013670.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push : phpmyadmin
+</A><A NAME="13670">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333051967-01333052215- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013671.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push : phpmyadmin
+</A><A NAME="13671">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333053398- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013674.html">[Mageia-dev] RFT: xen support
+</A><A NAME="13674">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333054626- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013676.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13676">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333054626-01333055026- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013678.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13678">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333054626-01333055026-01333057155- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013680.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13680">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333054626-01333055026-01333057155-01333089762- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013695.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andres Kaaber
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333054626-01333055026-01333057155-01333095094- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013702.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333054626-01333055026-01333057155-01333095094-01333121611- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013735.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333054626-01333055026-01333057155-01333095094-01333121611-01333122370- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013738.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01333054626-01333090041- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013696.html">[Mageia-dev] dropping mysql-workbench
+</A><A NAME="13696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333061145- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013681.html">[Mageia-dev]  Freeze push: mariadb (rc)
+</A><A NAME="13681">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333061145-01333085008- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013690.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mariadb (rc)
+</A><A NAME="13690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01333061145-01333089061- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013693.html">[Mageia-dev] Freeze push: mariadb (rc)
+</A><A NAME="13693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333079941- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013689.html">[Mageia-dev] mga1 rebuild
+</A><A NAME="13689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333079941-01333089102- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013694.html">[Mageia-dev] mga1 rebuild
+</A><A NAME="13694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333116679- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013731.html">[Mageia-dev] texlive need mf2pt1
+</A><A NAME="13731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333119516- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013733.html">[Mageia-dev] No time for maintainership
+</A><A NAME="13733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333123633- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013805.html">[Mageia-dev] freeze push: magpie
+</A><A NAME="13805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333142324- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013744.html">[Mageia-dev] Servers downtime
+</A><A NAME="13744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01333152778- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013745.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333152778-01333154304- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013746.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333152778-01333154304-01333175899- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013748.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333152778-01333154304-01333175899-01333176197- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013749.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333152778-01333154304-01333175899-01333176197-01333183603- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013750.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333152778-01333154304-01333175899-01333176197-01333183603-01333184276- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013751.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333152778-01333154304-01333175899-01333176197-01333183603-01333187032- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013753.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333152778-01333154304-01333175899-01333176197-01333183603-01333187032-01333220606- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013764.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333152778-01333154304-01333175899-01333176197-01333183603-01333187032-01333220606-01333220762- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013765.html">[Mageia-dev] Problems with flash 11.2
+</A><A NAME="13765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01333187943- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013754.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01333187943-01333188341- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013755.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01333187943-01333188341-01333189347- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013756.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01333187943-01333188341-01333189347-01333189897- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013757.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333187943-01333188341-01333189347-01333189897-01333190218- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013758.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333187943-01333188341-01333189347-01333189897-01333190218-01333191030- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013759.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333187943-01333188341-01333189347-01333189897-01333190218-01333191030-01333220366- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013763.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01333187943-01333188341-01333189347-01333189897-01333190218-01333191030-01333220366-01333221997- -->
+<LI><A HREF="013766.html">[Mageia-dev] Creating PDFs from a scanned document
+</A><A NAME="13766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+    </ul>
+    <p>
+      <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> 
+       <i>Sat Mar 31 21:33:25 CEST 2012</i><br>
+    <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 16:48:19 CEST 2012</i>
+    <p>
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