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Is there a security level without firewall? Name it "0" and +add "This is not recommended for a standard installation." + +Same with glx-boot and plymouth, etc. Users will get used pretty fast +to a new installation procedure where more packages are installed +after the summary - last time I read this sentence "users will get +used to it" when the move of X to tty1 was discussed - then this +"having to get used to" was no problem. Why should it be one here? + +-- +wobo +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="013444.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="013446.html">[Mageia-dev] installing minimal is not really that minimal +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#13445">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#13445">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#13445">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#13445">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |