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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+ <I>Fri Mar 23 10:42:40 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On 23 March 2012 08:32, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 23 maart 2012 02:08:26 schreef Maarten Vanraes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op donderdag 22 maart 2012 00:30:53 schreef Maarten Vanraes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in a chroot, i did a test with requiring plymouth or suggesting it (from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dracut)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the difference is:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with plymouth: 301 packages/335MB
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> without plymouth: 294 packages/294MB
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i'm gonna try a minimal install and see how much this'll differ
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ok, i was a bit wrong:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i have a local dracut version overridden with urpmi-proxy so as not to
+</I>&gt;<i> required but suggest plymouth
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> testing with which packages would become requested with rpmsrate...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> in a chroot, this becomes: 246 packages/299MB
+</I>&gt;<i> but, with suggests, this becomes 337 packages/385MB
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> however, in an install i have 371 packages
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but the / contains 731MB
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so, where do all these extra packages come from?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> these are the different packages between installing with suggests, or chrooted
+</I>&gt;<i> rpmsrate expansion with suggests...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> acpi
+</I>&gt;<i> acpid
+</I>&gt;<i> bc
+</I>&gt;<i> coreutils-doc
+</I>&gt;<i> cpufreq
+</I>&gt;<i> dhcp-client
+</I>&gt;<i> dhcp-common
+</I>&gt;<i> dmraid
+</I>&gt;<i> dmraid-events
+</I>&gt;<i> gpg-pubkey
+</I>&gt;<i> hdparm
+</I>&gt;<i> hexedit
+</I>&gt;<i> ipset
+</I>&gt;<i> iptables
+</I>&gt;<i> kpartx
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64dmraid1
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64ip4tc0
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64ip6tc0
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64iptables7
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64mnl0
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64nfnetlink0
+</I>&gt;<i> locales-en
+</I>&gt;<i> lsof
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia-gfxboot-theme
+</I>&gt;<i> mandi
+</I>&gt;<i> mandi-ifw
+</I>&gt;<i> microcode
+</I>&gt;<i> microcode_ctl
+</I>&gt;<i> procmail
+</I>&gt;<i> shorewall
+</I>&gt;<i> strace
+</I>&gt;<i> sudo
+</I>&gt;<i> tree
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> for one, mageia-gfxboot-theme is here again... it didn't get selected in
+</I>&gt;<i> chrooted install from manually checked rpmsrate settings... where does this
+</I>&gt;<i> come from?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> is there a part in the installer that hardcodes certain packages? clearly
+</I>&gt;<i> according to the ddebug.log file, this mageia-gfxboot-theme gets selected
+</I>&gt;<i> during the choosePackages step and not later on...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> what am i missing here?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> does anyone have an idea? i'd like to get to the bottom of this, so a pointer
+</I>&gt;<i> in a direction would help me alot...
+</I>
+acpi* mageia-gfxboot-them are pulled by the installer
+mandi* shorewall (&amp; thus iptables*) too.
+I've asked previously if we want a firewall installed before summary, anne &amp;
+blino said it was OK
+microcode* is pulled b/c your CPU supports patching
+idem for cpufreq
+dhcp was selected b/c there was a network interface configured as DHCP
+dmraid (&amp; thus kpartx) was selected b/c you've some fake raid
+(...)
+you always got gpg-pubkey, those are fake packages containing the keys
+used to verify packages
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