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+ <B>Olivier Thauvin</B>
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+ <I>Tue Jul 24 12:18:06 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>* Colin Guthrie (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Olivier Thauvin at 24/07/12 10:47 did gyre and gimble:
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+[...]
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+&gt;<i> &gt; No you misunderstood, if the system succeed to launch
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; '/usr/bin/ask-the-passphrase' or whatever its name is, it must wait an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; answer for ever and not continue booting and finally claim &quot;hey
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; surprising, I failed to boot w/o the passphrase&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The firest time it happend I really thought my system was broken.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So what if you cannot enter your password and want to rescue the system?
+</I>&gt;<i> Should it still wait forever until you enter your passphrase? Or would
+</I>&gt;<i> you have to deliberately enter your passphrase wrong X number of times
+</I>&gt;<i> to get the the rescue mode?
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+Why would I be unable to enter my password ? Because I am too drunk ?
+Then better to not be able to start the system. Because I forgot it ?
+Well then I can reinstall, my data are lost.
+
+Even in rescue mode, I must be able to enter my passphrase, it's a
+unrelated issue.
+
+I may point there is a failsafe menu in grub.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; I don't have nfs in my fstab but maybe this is triggered by another
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; service.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But I don't see the point of waiting the card to be on, especially when
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the card is on it don't connect to any network and don't wait this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; happend.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm in that case it sounds like a different issue than the deliberate
+</I>&gt;<i> stuff that waits for the network to be ready.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you know which bit of the system is waiting for this? Is it
+</I>&gt;<i> network-up.service or something else? (I doubt it can be network-up as
+</I>&gt;<i> this shouldn't delay logins unless the afore mentioned NFS mounts are
+</I>&gt;<i> present)
+</I>
+I will investigate, it seems this moring it fetched an ip, but it is not
+always the case and the question is what happend when there is no
+wireless network reachable.
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+--
+
+Olivier Thauvin
+CNRS - LATMOS
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