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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Security updates - Help needed (also forgot avidemux and gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg)</H1>
+ <B>David Walser</B>
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+ <I>Sun Jul 15 03:20:23 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Buchan Milne wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thursday, 5 July 2012 20:34:02 David Walser wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; So, before any further contribution from my side, I'd like the people in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; charge of security updates to find some internal agreement about what
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; kind of help they expect from other people exactly. If that's just to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; push a non-discussable list of changes into spec files, they could as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; well ask for SVN commit and package submission rights, to do it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; directly. This would avoid a large amount of anger and frustration for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; everyone.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nobody is in charge, which is part of the problem. I think a lot of us
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packagers come from Mandriva where we were used to Oden being in charge of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> updates for stable distros, and therefore not having to worry about it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While Mandriva had a security team (before Oden, Stew, and before that Stew
+</I>&gt;<i> and Vince). However, that doesn't mean you never had to worry about anything.
+</I>
+Sure, maybe the security manager would ask a maintainer for help with something sometimes, but they still had ultimately responsibility for
+the updates. My point is that responsibility falls on all of us packagers now, and it's a perspective shift that needs to be made.
+
+Also, I don't want anyone to get the idea that I'm in charge of security updates, even though I've kind of taken charge of it in a way,
+because when I finally started using Mageia at the end of last year, I noticed a lot of updates had been missed and nobody had taken charge
+of keeping track of such things. So I try my best to keep track of it now and do my best to help get the needed updates out. Please keep in
+mind that I do not have the level of experience of Vince or Oden and I have a full-time job which is not &quot;make security updates for Mageia.&quot;
+I am doing my best, as is the QA team.
+
+Mageia may not be the first to market with security updates (we're usually later than many other distros), but for highly critical zero-days
+and things being actively exploited, we've done well with packagers, QA, and sysadmins working together to get these updates out in a timely
+manner. For other security updates, the important thing is that we get them out, not that we're first to market.
+
+Finally Buchan, I have no complaints about the job you've done contributing to security updates for packages you maintain. So if I ever
+sound like I'm complaining, it's not directed at you.
+
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