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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Moving various packages/codecs to tainted</H1>
+ <B>Anssi Hannula</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Moving various packages/codecs to tainted">anssi at mageia.org
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+ <I>Sun Jan 15 06:06:06 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On 10.01.2012 05:20, Anssi Hannula wrote:
+&gt;<i> Linux Mint provides a &quot;No codecs&quot; CD:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php">http://www.linuxmint.com/download.php</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ubuntu has a patent policy (which basically IIRC says &quot;rights owner or
+</I>&gt;<i> packager, please contact us if you think there is an infringement, we
+</I>&gt;<i> will investgate&quot;):
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatentPolicy">https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PatentPolicy</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Note also that the Ubuntu Live CD and therefore the default Ubuntu
+</I>&gt;<i> installation do not contain any codecs. By default Totem is installed,
+</I>&gt;<i> however, and gstreamer is plugged into &quot;gnome-codec-install&quot; (which
+</I>&gt;<i> seems really nice, do we use it?), so that wen you try to play an
+</I>&gt;<i> unsupported video the first time, it will prompt to install the codecs
+</I>&gt;<i> (it will also show a warning dialog about patents etc, but AFAICS this
+</I>&gt;<i> comes from gnome-codec-install itself, not Ubuntu).
+</I>
+Well, gnome-codec-install is apt-specific, but it should be relatively
+easy to adapt it or use some other similar program (not codeina).
+
+I'll try to look at it when I can.
+
+What is left is to figure out how would this specifically work then:
+
+- Tainted by default, yes/no?
+- Option in the installer, yes/no?
+- How should the codec installer tool handle tainted-disabled case:
+ a) Can install the codec from the disabled repo (with a warning)
+ b) Asks the user if tainted should be enabled
+ c) Error out, asking the user to enable tainted
+ d) No handling, standard &quot;codec not found&quot; error
+ (note: a,b,c require some way for the tool to know what codecs exist
+ in tainted - for that we need one of:
+ x) search tainted repo automatically, like rpmdrake for backports
+ y) as (x) but ask user first (&quot;do you want to search in foobar&quot;)
+ z) list of tainted codecs, e.g. in an pcitable-like
+ semi-automatically maintained file, or in website
+ )
+- What is the proper way for the user to update his packages to tainted
+ versions - rpmdrake only considers updates from the /updates
+ repositories, so the user would get the fully enabled version of
+ package X only when an update is provided for it?
+ (I'm talking about GUI, &quot;urpmi --auto-update&quot; works in a terminal)
+
+
+&gt;<i> If the user installs a video player depending on ffmpeg, e.g. VLC via
+</I>&gt;<i> the software center, the codecs in ffmpeg will be pulled &quot;normally&quot;,
+</I>&gt;<i> i.e. silently.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Linux Mint had also gstreamer plugged to gnome-codec-install, so the
+</I>&gt;<i> codecs will be installed if the user tries to play such a video with
+</I>&gt;<i> totem (again with warnings).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+--
+Anssi Hannula
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