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It's one of +</I>>>><i> the reasons Fedora and others that do that are not viable options +</I>>>><i> for a lot +</I>>>><i> of non-technical users, and it just makes it so you have to jump +</I>>>><i> through a lot of extra hoops just to have a reasonably working system +</I>>><i> I'm absolutely fine with either moving codecs to core or tainted, as +</I>>><i> long as we are at least somewhat consistent in what is in core and what +</I>>><i> is in tainted. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I agree with both of you, but the problem is the difference between +</I>><i> non-free and tainted. Unfortunately, both are required for a +</I>><i> "reasonably working system". But in the case of nonfree, it's just a +</I>><i> matter of us internally getting past the "purity of the media" issue. +</I>><i> In the case of tainted, there are legal issues. +</I> +Patent claims are potential legal issues, since among other things, most +claims are invalidated when (or before) they reach the courts. So it +makes much more sense to wait for real legal patent threats. Agreed, it +does make sense to put packages in "tainted" when real threats arise. +Such cases will impact much bigger and richer targets before us, so we +will have plenty of time to react. + +><i> I think that the ultimate solution is going to have to be integrated +</I>><i> support in the installer allowing the user to hook up either nonfree, +</I>><i> tainted, or both, just by answering a simple prompt. The mirror +</I>><i> database probably ought to (if it doesn't already) keep track of which +</I>><i> mirrors supply nonfree and tainted (or better still, check at install +</I>><i> time), and customize mirror selection based on the user's response. +</I> +Good idea. +Note that only "tainted" is optional on official mirrors. (Yet they all +seem to carry "tainted", including in the apparently "patent-threatened" +countries such as the U.S.) + +><i> For non-network installs, I don't see a way around separate ISOs, at +</I>><i> least for tainted. +</I> +Another reason why we should limit what goes into tainted. Since many +users don't have a connexion reliable enough for network install. +Our goal should be that it "just works out of the box", for as many +users as possible. +Without unduly compromising our commitment to open source, of course. + +As for separate ISO's, if we go that route, we should arrive at some +solution that minimises the work involved (including testing) to produce +them. Such as maybe producing a DVD with enough non-free firmware and +drivers to get almost everyone's hardware working properly, and then +excluding the few non-free packages to produce a totally free DVD for +the purists. +(The non-free kernel-firmware package is only about 20M, for example.) + +-- +André + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="011189.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Moving various packages/codecs to tainted +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="011191.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Moving various packages/codecs to tainted +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#11196">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#11196">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#11196">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#11196">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |