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+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
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+<PRE>On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 16:48, Thomas Spuhler &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Friday, January 06, 2012 12:57:39 PM Sander Lepik wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 06.01.2012 21:06, Dale Huckeby kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Evidently once I've installed package A which requests X, sometimes
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; packages F, L, and T might subsequently get installed which also need X
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; *and presumably would have requested it had it not already been
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; installed*. &#160;But when I uninstall A it orphans X because A is the only
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; package that *requested* it. &#160;When F, L, and T are installed can't all
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; the packages they *would have requested* be marked whether or not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; they're already installed? &#160;That way a package would be orphaned only
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; when the last package that needs it is uninstalled? &#160;Or am I missing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; something?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is already so. See example: <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/AMj87QiV">http://pastebin.com/AMj87QiV</A> - after first
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> urpme libplasmaweather4 should be marked as orphan but it's not as it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> still required by other package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems to me, auto-orphans gives more headaches than benefits. Why are we
+</I>&gt;<i> clinching to it?
+</I>
+Because I and meany other people finding it useful never faced any
+problems on their machine with it.
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+The only problems I can remember are:
+- people wanted to remove some things required by task-kde, which
+implied removing task-kde, and then all of kde was orphan. I think
+many things were move to suggests since
+- some kind of install was installing packages requested by nothing
+and they were not marked as requested so they were listed as orphans,
+but this was fixed long ago
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