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+ <B>Sander Lepik</B>
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+<PRE>07.01.2012 13:39, Wolfgang Bornath kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> Of course this is one way to find bugs in packages. But what about the
+</I>&gt;<i> documented (in German) case where
+</I>&gt;<i> - after fresh installation, reboot (ok) and updates right after
+</I>&gt;<i> installation I was presented with a list of more than 100 &quot;orphans&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> - I ran 'urpme --auto-orphans' and rebooted
+</I>&gt;<i> - several system services (which started successfully after
+</I>&gt;<i> installation) refused to start now because of missing files
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+</I>&gt;<i> Of course urpmi was not the culprit because it only checks
+</I>&gt;<i> dependencies. But that did matter in that situation. The auto-orphans
+</I>&gt;<i> function obviously listed packages which may have no dependencies but
+</I>&gt;<i> are needed by the system. That's why I do not complain about urpmi but
+</I>&gt;<i> about the whole function. As long as this function is only based on
+</I>&gt;<i> package dependencies it is not safe to use it.
+</I>Did you choose custom install and unchecked some options? Or did you use LiveCD maybe?
+Anyway.. function is not to blame. Next time copy those packages that are going to be
+uninstalled. And they can be rechecked. Which are needed and why they get orphaned.
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+Sander
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