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+    <B>You-Cheng Hsieh</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bsoft-commits%5D%20%5B2851%5D%20Add%20hime%3B%0A%20remove%20chinput%2C%20kinput2%2C%20oxim%2C%20xcin.&In-Reply-To=%3CCAOkW%3DmymT_mSs8nxWy%3DXk6G3q-B9kTbvkzdmbp6WGCeAx-LT-Q%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>2012/1/31 Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 29 January 2012 15:09, You-Cheng Hsieh &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yochenhsieh at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Add hime; remove chinput, kinput2, oxim, xcin.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> why 3 commits with the same changelog?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you wanted to revert only the locale list changes, then just do
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that next time,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with a proper changelog.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry, I will be more careful about that next time.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My apology for any confusion and inconvenience.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can use svn propedit to edit your changelogs.
+</I>&gt;<i> Also describe your changes in at top of perl-install/NEWS
+</I>&gt;<i> for next release.
+</I>Thank you very much for the tutorial.
+I've add changes in perl-install/NEWS and edited changelogs.
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+as far as I am able to count, 28 registered for the binge drinking 
+evening...ooopss!! ... sorry to attend the diner!!
+
+As we need to give a precise number for the restaurant today, please do 
+a last check that you are indeed registered on the wiki if you were 
+planning to join:
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2012">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Fosdem_2012</A>
+
+
+The converse is also true, we are gonna catch anyone registered that 
+will not come ;)
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+Chris.
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Strange%20behaviour%20-%20installed%20package%20doesn%27t%20show%0A%20when%20doing%20a%20%27rpm%20-qa%27%20search%3F%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C1328083061.6814.2.camel%40foxbase%3E"
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+<PRE>[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# urpmi libXdamage1
+Package libxdamage1-1.1.3-2.mga2.i586 is already installed
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# rpm -qa | grep libXdamage1
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# 
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# urpmi --replacepkgs libXdamage1
+To satisfy dependencies, the following package is going to be installed:
+   Package                        Version      Release       Arch   
+(medium &quot;Core 32bit Release&quot;)
+  libxdamage1                    1.1.3        2.mga2        i586    
+9.3KB of additional disk space will be used.
+5.6KB of packages will be retrieved.
+Proceed with the installation of one package? (Y/n) 
+
+<A HREF="http://ftp.mandrivauser.de/mirrors/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/libxdamage1-1.1.3-2.mga2.i586.rpm">http://ftp.mandrivauser.de/mirrors/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/libxdamage1-1.1.3-2.mga2.i586.rpm</A>
+installing libxdamage1-1.1.3-2.mga2.i586.rpm
+from /var/cache/urpmi/rpms                                                                                             
+Preparing...
+##################################################################################################################################
+      1/1: libxdamage1
+##################################################################################################################################
+
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# rpm -qa | grep libXdamage1
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# 
+
+
+Very odd . . .
+
+Thx,
+R.Fox
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+    <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> 
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+&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# urpmi libXdamage1
+</I>&gt;<i> Package libxdamage1-1.1.3-2.mga2.i586 is already installed
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# rpm -qa | grep libXdamage1
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# 
+</I>
+Does rpm --rebuilddb help ?
+
+I think the rpmdb index is corrupt and --rebuilddb can repair it.
+
+-- 
+
+Olivier Thauvin
+CNRS  -  LATMOS
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%09bugzilla-4.0.4-2.mga2&In-Reply-To=%3C4F28F76C.5040704%40gmail.com%3E"
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+&gt;<i> ovitters&lt;ovitters&gt;  4.0.4-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> - retab! spec file
+</I>This is perfectly gratuitous move, and now we have inconsistent usage of 
+tabulations and spaces both in the spec file, and in generated files, 
+such as cron and apache configuration files.
+
+-- 
+BOFH excuse #144:
+
+Too few computrons available.
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+&gt;<i> * Robert Fox (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# urpmi libXdamage1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Package libxdamage1-1.1.3-2.mga2.i586 is already installed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# rpm -qa | grep libXdamage1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Does rpm --rebuilddb help ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I think the rpmdb index is corrupt and --rebuilddb can repair it.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# rpm --rebuilddb
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# rpm -qa | grep libXdamage1
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# urpmi libXdamage1
+Package libxdamage1-1.1.3-2.mga2.i586 is already installed
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# 
+
+
+Didn't seem to help.
+
+Thanks anyway,
+Robert
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# urpmi --replacepkgs libXdamage1
+</I>&gt;<i> To satisfy dependencies, the following package is going to be installed:
+</I>&gt;<i>     Package                        Version      Release       Arch
+</I>&gt;<i> (medium &quot;Core 32bit Release&quot;)
+</I>&gt;<i>    libxdamage1                    1.1.3        2.mga2        i586
+</I>&gt;<i> 9.3KB of additional disk space will be used.
+</I>&gt;<i> 5.6KB of packages will be retrieved.
+</I>&gt;<i> Proceed with the installation of one package? (Y/n)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://ftp.mandrivauser.de/mirrors/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/libxdamage1-1.1.3-2.mga2.i586.rpm">http://ftp.mandrivauser.de/mirrors/Mageia/distrib/cauldron/i586/media/core/release/libxdamage1-1.1.3-2.mga2.i586.rpm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> installing libxdamage1-1.1.3-2.mga2.i586.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> from /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
+</I>&gt;<i> Preparing...
+</I>&gt;<i> ##################################################################################################################################
+</I>&gt;<i>        1/1: libxdamage1
+</I>&gt;<i> ##################################################################################################################################
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# rpm -qa | grep libXdamage1
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]#
+</I>That's perfectly normal, rpm -qa only display installed physical 
+packages (libxdamage1 here), whereas libXdamage1 is a virtual package 
+provided by this last one. Just try:
+rpm -q libxdamage1
+
+-- 
+BOFH excuse #374:
+
+It's the InterNIC's fault.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# rpm --rebuilddb
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# rpm -qa | grep libXdamage1
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# urpmi libXdamage1
+</I>&gt;<i> Package libxdamage1-1.1.3-2.mga2.i586 is already installed
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]#
+</I>
+rpm -q libXdamage1 != rpm -q libXdamage1
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+    <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> 
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+<PRE>* Thierry Vignaud (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 1 February 2012 09:31, Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# rpm --rebuilddb
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# rpm -qa | grep libXdamage1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# urpmi libXdamage1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Package libxdamage1-1.1.3-2.mga2.i586 is already installed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]#
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm -q libXdamage1 != rpm -q libXdamage1
+</I>
+You probably mean:
+
+rpm -q libXdamage1 != rpm -q libxdamage1
+
+Or also, what does say:
+rpm -qa | grep -i libXdamage1
+
+Good catch Thierry !
+
+-- 
+
+Olivier Thauvin
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+&gt;<i> * Thierry Vignaud (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 1 February 2012 09:31, Robert Fox &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">list at foxconsult.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# rpm --rebuilddb
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# rpm -qa | grep libXdamage1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# urpmi libXdamage1
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Package libxdamage1-1.1.3-2.mga2.i586 is already installed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]#
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; rpm -q libXdamage1 != rpm -q libXdamage1
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> You probably mean:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm -q libXdamage1 != rpm -q libxdamage1
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Or also, what does say:
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm -qa | grep -i libXdamage1
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Good catch Thierry !
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+I should have noticed that myself - DUH!
+
+What threw me off was the error I get when I try and install the latest
+TeamViewer RPM (supposedly designed for Red Hat, Fedora, Mandriva
+(32/64-Bit)):
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# urpmi teamviewer_linux.rpm 
+A requested package cannot be installed:
+teamviewer7-7.0.9310-1.i386 (due to unsatisfied libXdamage(x86-32))
+Continue installation anyway? (Y/n) 
+
+I saw the big X in the name and thought that is what it is called . .
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> Download]# locate libXdamage
+/usr/lib/libXdamage.so.1
+/usr/lib/libXdamage.so.1.1.0
+/usr/lib64/libXdamage.so
+/usr/lib64/libXdamage.so.1
+/usr/lib64/libXdamage.so.1.1.0
+
+Duh!
+
+Thanks . . .
+
+Robert
+
+
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 31/01/12 18:09 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 31 January 2012 15:39, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So you *will* need udisks2 installed (no requires yet), but even then it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is not working for me...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> (...)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OK, so I packaged a git snapshot of gvfs with the udisks2 media monitor
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> support merged. Works fine for me. Submitted for build.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Note that FC actually requires udisks2 in gfvfs:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=gvfs.git;a=commitdiff;h=323b765f24f62bba78290f0a595e391ecf470448">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=gvfs.git;a=commitdiff;h=323b765f24f62bba78290f0a595e391ecf470448</A>
+</I>
+Yeah a requires is needed. Added to ours too.
+
+A thought struck me the other day when reading systemd-devel (and
+discussions about dbus services needed for latest gnome and provided by
+systemd (but with other implementations possible too). I wonder if we
+should start automatically parsing dbus service files in packages and
+adding virtual provides (like perl, python, libs etc.)? That would mean
+that a package would ask for something that provides
+&quot;dbus(org.freedesktop.UDisks2)&quot;? (bad example in this case but for
+example &quot;dbus(org.freedesktop.hostname1)&quot; might make more sense?
+
+Food for thought maybe...
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
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+    <B>EatDirt</B> 
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+am I alone to get frozen tabs with our wonderful (ironic) and still 
+compulsory oxygen-gtk theme???
+
+Seriously, try userdrake, I cannot click on the &quot;group&quot; tab. This 
+happens also with some menus in gkrellm and some other gtk applications.
+
+If I force remove rpm -e --nodeps oxygen*, this works fine again. I can 
+fill a bug report if this is not some funny issues on my side only.
+
+Chris.
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+    <B>You-Cheng Hsieh</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 25 January 2012 10:47:07 Robert Fox wrote :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I just updated two systems to the latest Cauldron with KDE 4.8 packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - looking good, except that the panel is now in &quot;Classic Menu&quot; mode and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there is no longer the option to switch to &quot;Application Launcher Menu&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am I missing something?
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep, &#160;you probably missed my previous mail regarding the fix for plasmarc
+</I>&gt;<i> reading files ( <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> January/011473.html which is fact might be wrong because even people removing
+</I>&gt;<i> the ~/.kde4/ will probably encounter this bug )
+</I>&gt;<i> So here i would say that you're running 2 pannels (the one that was available
+</I>&gt;<i> before the commit after 4.7.90) &amp; the one you probably added to fix this issue.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You should removed this panel.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> One more point is that the kde update is of course not complete so far (&amp;
+</I>&gt;<i> since the BS is currently under a perl flood i don't know when it will be fixed
+</I>&gt;<i> :p )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Balcaen John
+</I>&gt;<i> Jabber-id: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mikala at jabber.littleboboy.net</A>
+</I>
+I want to report that there's another strange issue that can be fixed
+by same workaround:
+Problem: gtk apps icons don't show in systray.
+Workaround: rm ~/.kde4/config/plasma*
+
+Should be added to errata after wiki is back online.
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+    <B>Balcaen John</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wednesday 01 February 2012 21:13:40 You-Cheng Hsieh wrote :
+[...]
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I want to report that there's another strange issue that can be fixed
+</I>&gt;<i> by same workaround:
+</I>&gt;<i> Problem: gtk apps icons don't show in systray.
+</I>&gt;<i> Workaround: rm ~/.kde4/config/plasma*
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Should be added to errata after wiki is back online.
+</I>In fact due to <A HREF="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=291998">https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=291998</A> i'll probably drop 
+the support of global plasmarc files i switch totally to javascript (though i 
+don't know how much we'll break upgrade from mga1 :/).
+I'll mail once i finished this setup :
+the problematic part is in fact of handling our vanilla config since i don't 
+want to blindy delete/move the /usr/share/apps/plasma-desktop/init/00-
+defaultLayout.js to the vanilla package (&amp; increase the risk of errors in case 
+of update of this .js). 
+
+Regards,
+-- 
+Balcaen John
+Jabber-id: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mikala at jabber.littleboboy.net</A>
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+    <B>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20scummvm%20error%20at%20build%20%3A%20hint%20welcome&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2B0WU1T4r9Gw_fYVKeQnFMGJxM6pAU4xkRKyFfLL8%2Bw3PZmEzg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] scummvm error at build : hint welcome">peroyvind at mandriva.org
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+<PRE>fixed in mandriva:
+<A HREF="http://svn.mandriva.com/viewvc/packages/cooker/scummvm/current/SPECS/scummvm.spec?view=markup">http://svn.mandriva.com/viewvc/packages/cooker/scummvm/current/SPECS/scummvm.spec?view=markup</A>
+
+Den 22:20 31. januar 2012 skrev zezinho &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lists.jjorge at free.fr</A>&gt; f&#248;lgende:
+&gt;<i> This problem was seen in Fedora, and it seems they have change rpmbuild
+</I>&gt;<i> behaviour :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/156484">http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel/156484</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> extracting debug info from
+</I>&gt;<i> /home/iurt/rpm/BUILDROOT/scummvm-1.4.1-1.mga2.i386/usr/games/scummvm
+</I>&gt;<i> Stabs debuginfo not supported:
+</I>&gt;<i> /home/iurt/rpm/BUILDROOT/scummvm-1.4.1-1.mga2.i386/usr/games/scummvm
+</I>&gt;<i> error: Bad exit status from /home/iurt/rpm/tmp/rpm-tmp.gQ6jqv (%install)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ---------- Videresendt e-post ----------
+</I>&gt;<i> From:&#160;Ulri the scheduler bot &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> To:&#160;zezinho &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">zezinho at mageia.org</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Cc:
+</I>&gt;<i> Date:&#160;Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:09:01 +0100 (CET)
+</I>&gt;<i> Subject:&#160;Rebuild failed on i586 for @203683:scummvm-1.4.1-1.mga2.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> Build of the following packages failed:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - @203683:scummvm-1.4.1-1.mga2.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Failure details available in <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120131210346.zezinho.valstar.17506/log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120131210346.zezinho.valstar.17506/log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Reason:
+</I>&gt;<i> @203683:scummvm-1.4.1-1.mga2.src.rpm: build_failure
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log files generated:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120131210346.zezinho.valstar.17506/log/scummvm-1.4.1-1.mga2/install_deps-1.0.20120131210403.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120131210346.zezinho.valstar.17506/log/scummvm-1.4.1-1.mga2/install_deps-1.0.20120131210403.log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120131210346.zezinho.valstar.17506/log/scummvm-1.4.1-1.mga2/build.0.20120131210403.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120131210346.zezinho.valstar.17506/log/scummvm-1.4.1-1.mga2/build.0.20120131210403.log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120131210346.zezinho.valstar.17506/log/scummvm-1.4.1-1.mga2/rpm_qa.0.20120131210403.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120131210346.zezinho.valstar.17506/log/scummvm-1.4.1-1.mga2/rpm_qa.0.20120131210403.log</A>
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Rebuild%20failed%20on%20x86_64%20for%0A%09%40203879%3Alibx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2.src.rpm&In-Reply-To=%3CCAONrEtZr-SefuUou-i3N2XUKaWsooOHnqryX5GU6yWjrrSJ0Rw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>On 1 February 2012 22:45, Ulri the scheduler bot &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Build of the following packages failed:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - @203879:libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Failure details available in <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Reason:
+</I>&gt;<i> @203879:libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2.src.rpm: build_failure
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log files generated:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log/libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2/build.0.20120201214002.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log/libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2/build.0.20120201214002.log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log/libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2/rpm_qa.0.20120201214002.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log/libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2/rpm_qa.0.20120201214002.log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log/libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2/install_deps-1.0.20120201214002.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log/libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2/install_deps-1.0.20120201214002.log</A>
+</I>
+Something fisht in either spec-helper or the chroots:
+
++ /usr/share/spec-helper/clean_perl
+/home/iurt/rpm/tmp/rpm-tmp.cbQR0W: /usr/share/spec-helper/clean_perl:
+/bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
+error: Bad exit status from /home/iurt/rpm/tmp/rpm-tmp.cbQR0W (%install)
+
+(<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log/libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2/build.0.20120201214002.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log/libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2/build.0.20120201214002.log</A>)
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Rebuild%20failed%20on%20x86_64%20for%0A%09%40203879%3Alibx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2.src.rpm&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2BCX%2BbhPyUJOfcc9zDPbOZ68DT8Tair-2FfAP1-ZQqH9zjRTpg%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:02, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 1 February 2012 22:45, Ulri the scheduler bot &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Build of the following packages failed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - @203879:libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Failure details available in <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Reason:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> @203879:libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2.src.rpm: build_failure
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Log files generated:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log/libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2/build.0.20120201214002.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log/libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2/build.0.20120201214002.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log/libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2/rpm_qa.0.20120201214002.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log/libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2/rpm_qa.0.20120201214002.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log/libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2/install_deps-1.0.20120201214002.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log/libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2/install_deps-1.0.20120201214002.log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Something fisht in either spec-helper or the chroots:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> + /usr/share/spec-helper/clean_perl
+</I>&gt;<i> /home/iurt/rpm/tmp/rpm-tmp.cbQR0W: /usr/share/spec-helper/clean_perl:
+</I>&gt;<i> /bin/sh: bad interpreter: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> error: Bad exit status from /home/iurt/rpm/tmp/rpm-tmp.cbQR0W (%install)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log/libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2/build.0.20120201214002.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201114337.tv.valstar.15788/log/libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2/build.0.20120201214002.log</A>)
+</I>
+This build got several &quot;no space left on device&quot; earlier.
+The build system was supposed to be stopped but had not been stopped correctly.
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+    <B>D.Morgan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Revision 203801 Author gil Date 2012-02-01 02:41:03 +0100 (Wed, 01 Feb 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> imported package rubygem-ruby-debug
+</I>
+
+Please take care about the policies.
+
+ruby packages need to be called :  ruby-....  and the 2 pacakges you
+added already are in mageia.
+
+ruby-ruby-debug
+ruby-ruby-debug-base
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+    <B>David W. Hodgins</B> 
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+
+&gt;<i> Are things working OK for you now with dracut or is it still busted?
+</I>
+I've finally figured out why it wasn't working for my system.
+
+Two separate problems.
+
+First, /dev/$volumegroup/$logicalvolume symlinks are no longer created.
+My fstab had ...
+/dev/91/usr /usr ext4 defaults,relatime,user_xattr 1 2
+which used to work, but /dev/91/usr is not created when
+the lvm scan is run. /dev/mapper/91-usr is created, but not /dev/91/usr.
+
+Second, on my single core system, the loop to process the things found by
+udev only ran
+while :; do
+
+     check_finished &amp;&amp; break
+at which point it ended the loop, without trying to run the initqueue jobs.
+
+I've attached a patch to fix the init script.
+
+Would you prefer I open a new bug report for this?
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+<PRE>Sorry for the late reply, I went into vacations just after this...
+
+On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Balcaen John &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mikala at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Friday 20 January 2012 10:39:18 Juan Luis Baptiste wrote :
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error:
+</I>&gt;<i> ../libsrcs/angelscript/angelSVN/sdk/angelscript/lib/libangelscript.a: No such
+</I>&gt;<i> file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> make: *** [release/libs/angelwrap_x86_64.so] Error 1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The error seems to be here.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I'm not sure that's the error as I have seen it too with my local
+build and still builds fine.
+
+Any other ideas ? I'm stuck with this.. :S
+
+-- 
+Juancho
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+    <B>David W. Hodgins</B> 
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+<PRE>On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 07:22:30 -0500, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> Are things working OK for you now with dracut or is it still busted?
+</I>
+Just to clarify why I think the problem is happening on single
+core systems.
+
+On a multi-core system, the bash and udevd processes will be
+running on different cores.
+When the script executes the udev settle command, it continues
+to execute, so the loop checking to see if udev is done finds
+it isn't, so it then looks for/runs the initqueue jobs.
+
+On a single core system, the bash script waits for the settle
+command to finish, so then finds it's done, and exits without
+even trying to run the initqueue jobs.
+
+The patch in my prior message is effectively changing the script
+ from &quot;udev done or jobs done&quot; to &quot;udev done and jobs done&quot;.
+
+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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+<PRE>Le mardi 31 janvier 2012 &#224; 15:45 +0100, Romain d'Alverny a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 23:29, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Unfortunately, that's not really the opinion of the sourceforge lawyers.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Where is this opinion documented? Are there source/reference/details
+</I>&gt;<i> about said copyright infringement reports? 
+</I>
+That's what I ask, did someone checked with sf why it was removed.
+
+&gt;<i> (without which the claim
+</I>&gt;<i> does not stand) I could not find on the old site, neither on the new
+</I>&gt;<i> one, neither through a quick Google search.
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://stardict.sourceforge.net/">http://stardict.sourceforge.net/</A>
+
+&quot;The original StarDict project has recently been removed from
+SourceForge due to copyright infringement reports. Most of the files
+were lost with the demise of the project. The project has re-emerged
+here since then, though the legal issues may never have been resolved.&quot;.
+
+Based on this, I assume that it was removed by sf, and I also assume
+that their lawyers decided it because that's the only logical reason. 
+
+Another user ( in the sens sf user ) cannot ask to remove ( or at least,
+not without sf approval, hence we go back on remove by sourceforge
+people ).
+
+Someone asking for copyright claims could ask, but again, this would
+have been checked by sf lawyers.
+
+Technically, someone owning the project could remove it, but since
+&quot;most of the files were lost&quot;, I assume that the removal was not
+intended. So either this was done by someone else, ( hence back to
+previous cases ), or the owner managed to remove the files from his hard
+drive, his backup, sourceforge website and sourceforge backup in one go
+( so unlikely to be done by error ). hence my conclusion.
+
+In any case, there was copyright claims serious enough to shutdown the
+project, meaning that someone filled the claims. And I think that's
+serious enough to warrant a proper verification.
+-- 
+Michael Scherer
+
+</PRE>
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+What do you think of support exfat in Mga2?
+There are two packages (already in Debian, Fedora, partly Mandriva) 
+exfat-fuse and exfat-utils both iinm shall land in tainted.
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+    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think of support exfat in Mga2?
+</I>&gt;<i> There are two packages (already in Debian, Fedora, partly Mandriva) 
+</I>&gt;<i> exfat-fuse and exfat-utils both iinm shall land in tainted.
+</I>
+Why ?
+
+if it went to Fedora, it should be good enough for core/
+( now I do not see it on F16, so maybe you mean something else than &quot;in
+Fedora repository&quot; when you mean &quot;in Fedora&quot; ).
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 07:22:30 -0500, Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Are things working OK for you now with dracut or is it still busted?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I've finally figured out why it wasn't working for my system.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Two separate problems.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> First, /dev/$volumegroup/$logicalvolume symlinks are no longer created.
+</I>&gt;<i> My fstab had ...
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/91/usr /usr ext4 defaults,relatime,user_xattr 1 2
+</I>&gt;<i> which used to work, but /dev/91/usr is not created when
+</I>&gt;<i> the lvm scan is run. /dev/mapper/91-usr is created, but not /dev/91/usr.
+</I>
+That's interesting... I get those symlinks here :s (tho' I am running a
+slightly newer udev, so perhaps the version in your initrd is to blame?)
+
+&gt;<i> Second, on my single core system, the loop to process the things found by
+</I>&gt;<i> udev only ran
+</I>&gt;<i> while :; do
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>     check_finished &amp;&amp; break
+</I>&gt;<i> at which point it ended the loop, without trying to run the initqueue jobs.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I've attached a patch to fix the init script.
+</I>
+Interesting, but I'm not sure I fully agree with this. The initqueue is
+very specifically skipped when certain circumstances are reached. There
+must be a reason for this, but I'm not immediately able to say what.
+I'll ask Harald.
+
+That said, I've already written a reply to your other mail with a longer
+explanation of what I think could be going on... there are a few
+questions in there for you :)
+
+&gt;<i> Would you prefer I open a new bug report for this?
+</I>
+Nah, no worries. I've seen it now :)
+
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+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 03 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 16:23 +0100, Kamil Rytarowski a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What do you think of support exfat in Mga2?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There are two packages (already in Debian, Fedora, partly Mandriva)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> exfat-fuse and exfat-utils both iinm shall land in tainted.
+</I>&gt;<i> Why ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> if it went to Fedora, it should be good enough for core/
+</I>&gt;<i> ( now I do not see it on F16, so maybe you mean something else than &quot;in
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora repository&quot; when you mean &quot;in Fedora&quot; ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I> From Wikipedia:
+&quot;An experimental, open source Linux kernel module that supports the 
+reading of exFAT files is currently under development.[13] It cannot 
+become an official part of Linux due to the patent encumbered status of 
+the exFAT filesystem. A FUSE-based full-featured implementation is 
+currently in beta status.&quot;
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+The packages are in Russian Fedora Free for F15/F16/Rawhide, according 
+to <A HREF="http://packages.debian.org/sid/exfat-utils">http://packages.debian.org/sid/exfat-utils</A>
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+For Debian it's probalby in the main repository (but I'm unsure)
+<A HREF="http://packages.debian.org/sid/exfat-fuse">http://packages.debian.org/sid/exfat-fuse</A>
+<A HREF="http://packages.debian.org/sid/exfat-utils">http://packages.debian.org/sid/exfat-utils</A>
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+Though the software is licensed under GPLv3+.
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 07:22:30 -0500, Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Are things working OK for you now with dracut or is it still busted?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Just to clarify why I think the problem is happening on single
+</I>&gt;<i> core systems.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> On a multi-core system, the bash and udevd processes will be
+</I>&gt;<i> running on different cores.
+</I>&gt;<i> When the script executes the udev settle command, it continues
+</I>&gt;<i> to execute, so the loop checking to see if udev is done finds
+</I>&gt;<i> it isn't, so it then looks for/runs the initqueue jobs.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> On a single core system, the bash script waits for the settle
+</I>&gt;<i> command to finish, so then finds it's done, and exits without
+</I>&gt;<i> even trying to run the initqueue jobs.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The patch in my prior message is effectively changing the script
+</I>&gt;<i> from &quot;udev done or jobs done&quot; to &quot;udev done and jobs done&quot;.
+</I>
+Hmm, actually thinking about this more, I'm not 100% sure I agree with
+this argument. The number of cores should be irrelevant here as the
+program itself should be dealing with things synchronously anyway.
+
+I'm wondering if it's more of an issue relating to the fact that it's
+not specifically waiting for the LVM device to be ready. I guess your /
+is either not on LVM or is in a different Volume Group? In my tests it
+worked, but perhaps the dual core machine is simply that bit faster (and
+it's speed, not #cores that is important)?
+
+In the file parse-lvm.sh, it does a for loop and has a wait_for_dev
+call. This function will put stuff into the initqueue that should
+prevent the exiting of the loop until that device exists...
+
+    for dev in $(getargs rd.lvm.vg rd_LVM_VG=) $(getargs rd.lvm.lv
+rd_LVM_LV=); do
+        wait_for_dev &quot;/dev/$dev&quot;
+    done
+
+Now according to the man page, these options are only meant to be used
+to restrict what devices are activated so they shouldn't be needed per-se.
+
+But it brings an important point... there does not appear to be any
+&quot;wait_for_dev&quot; calls for the usrmount module  So nothing is going to be
+waiting for the device to exist. If it takes a little while to come up
+it could lead to your error.
+
+And herein we have chicken and egg... we don't know where /usr is (i.e.
+which /dev/foo) until we mount /  (as we have to read /etc/fstab). But
+by the time we've mounted /, we've already exited this loop and thus
+cannot re-enter the loop to wait for more devices.
+
+Tricky, and certainly something I'll discuss with Harald this weekend.
+He does have a separate branch that deals with usr mounting in a more
+holistic way (i.e. it handles /usr/bin being a separate mount if that
+floats your boat!), but I've not looked at this for a while to see if
+he's progressed any with it.
+
+All in all, it's perhaps just the fact that the first call to udevadm
+settle is skipped due to there being nothing in your initqueue/finished/
+folder? You can check via passing rd.break=initqueue and looking in the
+folder.
+
+If so, then all that should be needed to get this into shape is to put a
+dummy file in there as part of the 98usrmount module, have that file
+delete itself and return and error code, thus causing check_finished()
+to return non zero and thus the call to udevsettle will be reached.
+
+
+If this is NOT the issue, then it should just be a timing thing plain
+and simple. To confirm, this you should simply be able to pass
+rd.break=pre-pivot to the command line, wait a little while and then
+just type exit to continue the boot process. This extra time should be
+sufficient for udev to &quot;see&quot; the LVM stuff and for the mount command to
+succeed (I hope!)
+
+Sorry for the long reply. You will likely have to poke in the dracut
+code to understand everything I'm saying, but it looks like you're doing
+that happily already :D
+
+Col
+
+
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 03 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 16:23 +0100, Kamil Rytarowski a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What do you think of support exfat in Mga2?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There are two packages (already in Debian, Fedora, partly Mandriva)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> exfat-fuse and exfat-utils both iinm shall land in tainted.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;<i> Why ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> if it went to Fedora, it should be good enough for core/
+</I>&gt;<i> ( now I do not see it on F16, so maybe you mean something else than &quot;in
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora repository&quot; when you mean &quot;in Fedora&quot; ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>The wikipedia page links to <A HREF="https://code.google.com/p/exfat/">https://code.google.com/p/exfat/</A>
+which gives links for various distros which have these exfat packages.  
+(7 in all)
+The link for &quot;fedora&quot; is <A HREF="http://code.google.com/p/exfat/downloads/list,">http://code.google.com/p/exfat/downloads/list,</A> 
+which is evidently not on Fedora itself.
+For debian it is to <A HREF="http://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/exfat-fuse">http://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/exfat-fuse</A>
+For mandriva it just says &quot;Cooker&quot; (no link).
+
+The wikipedia link 
+<A HREF="http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Licenses-Windows-7-s-exFAT-Flash-File-Format-129512.shtml">http://news.softpedia.com/news/Microsoft-Licenses-Windows-7-s-exFAT-Flash-File-Format-129512.shtml</A>
+says that Microsoft licenses the format to larger companies for 300000$, 
+and a search from there leads to 
+&quot;<A HREF="http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/en/us/intellectualproperty/iplicensing/programs/exfatfilesystem.aspx">http://www.microsoft.com/about/legal/en/us/intellectualproperty/iplicensing/programs/exfatfilesystem.aspx</A>&quot;
+So it does have to be in &quot;tainted&quot;.  (Unless, of course Microsoft 
+decides to give us special permission :-) )
+
+The filesystem only seems to be useful for usb keys 64G or bigger, since 
+the format is essentially a FAT64 with minor innovations.  It is the 
+default format for SDXC cards (&gt;=64G).  For other contexts, ext4 (or 
+even NTFS) would be a better choice,
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+    <B>Pierre Jarillon</B> 
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+<PRE>I have installed Mageia on a disk after Ubuntu.
+After the install, I reboot and Ubuntu was ignored in Grub.
+The owner of the PC was not happy and tought that Mageia is bad.
+
+I have not found how to restore an access to Ubuntu and after an hour, I have 
+reinstalled Ubuntu which install its grub2 allowing to boot on both systems.
+
+In Caudron, grub2 is not still used. Is time to switch to Grub2 ?
+
+
+Just for a smile:
+I have found another GRUB: <A HREF="http://www.pc-6.com/history/940.htm">http://www.pc-6.com/history/940.htm</A>  ;-)
+I have also found FIPS, 
+<A HREF="http://pjarillon.free.fr/docs/para/2011-04-09_20.03.26.jpg">http://pjarillon.free.fr/docs/para/2011-04-09_20.03.26.jpg</A>
+Fips is an old software used to make partitions on disks.
+
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+Vice-pr&#233;sident de l'ABUL : <A HREF="http://abul.org">http://abul.org</A>
+Microsoft est &#224; l'informatique ce que McDonald est &#224; la gastronomie
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+&gt;<i> I have installed Mageia on a disk after Ubuntu.
+</I>&gt;<i> After the install, I reboot and Ubuntu was ignored in Grub.
+</I>&gt;<i> The owner of the PC was not happy and tought that Mageia is bad.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I have not found how to restore an access to Ubuntu and after an hour, I have 
+</I>&gt;<i> reinstalled Ubuntu which install its grub2 allowing to boot on both systems.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> In Caudron, grub2 is not still used. Is time to switch to Grub2 ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Since nobody is working in the integration (drakxtools, installer, etc)
+I would say no.
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=416">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=416</A>
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+<PRE>Le 03/02/2012 19:05, Pierre Jarillon a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I have installed Mageia on a disk after Ubuntu.
+</I>&gt;<i> After the install, I reboot and Ubuntu was ignored in Grub.
+</I>&gt;<i> The owner of the PC was not happy and tought that Mageia is bad.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have not found how to restore an access to Ubuntu and after an hour, I have
+</I>&gt;<i> reinstalled Ubuntu which install its grub2 allowing to boot on both systems.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In Caudron, grub2 is not still used. Is time to switch to Grub2 ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I have installed both ubuntu and mageia with no problem with regard to booting ubuntu.
+You must have left ubuntu put the bootloader on the MBR. If you are going to install several Linux distribution you should install the OS on partitions and not on the MBR.
+
+On my PC I use xosl as a bootloader and always install grub on the boot partition. A few years back I got burned when I forgot to change the default.
+One thing that pisses me off on all the Linux distribution, including Mageia is that the fact that the bootloader is on the MBR is sorta hidden and it is not obvious how to switch it to the partition. It should be on the top with boxes with the choice of 
+where we want it and a message that is not cryptic and makes it obvious what that does. That way I don't see where we could accidentaly screw up our system.
+There is no problem if you have only one operating system to have grub on the MBR but brain dead to put it there when you have several OS. Specially when you have diffferent incompatible versions of grub.
+
+The way I recovered the messed up boot was to boot on my xosl boot diskette and restore its boot.
+
+Here is the layout of one of my hard disks.
+
+P&#233;riph&#233;rique Amorce  D&#233;but        Fin      Blocs     Id  Syst&#232;me
+/dev/sda1               1           1        8001   78  Inconnu &lt;-- xosl
+/dev/sda2               2         261     2088450    6  FAT16 &lt;-- Free Dos
+/dev/sda3   *         262         276      120487+  83  Linux
+/dev/sda4             277      243201  1951295062+   5  Etendue
+/dev/sda5             277         750     3807373+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
+/dev/sda6             751         765      120456   83  Linux
+/dev/sda7             766         780      120456   83  Linux
+/dev/sda8             781         795      120456   83  Linux
+/dev/sda9             796       60000   475564131   83  Linux
+/dev/sda10          60001      120000   481949968+  83  Linux
+/dev/sda11         120001      160000   321299968+  83  Linux
+/dev/sda12         160001      200000   321299968+  83  Linux
+/dev/sda13         200001      243201   347012001   83  Linux
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+&gt;<i> default. One thing that pisses me off on all the Linux distribution,
+</I>&gt;<i> including Mageia is that the fact that the bootloader is on the MBR is
+</I>&gt;<i> sorta hidden and it is not obvious how to switch it to the partition. It
+</I>
+How to boot if nothing is in the MBR? At least, we should install grub in both 
+MBR and / partition. This way, it is easier to recover from a broken MBR.
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+&gt;<i> Le 03/02/2012 19:05, Pierre Jarillon a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have installed Mageia on a disk after Ubuntu.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> After the install, I reboot and Ubuntu was ignored in Grub.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The owner of the PC was not happy and tought that Mageia is bad.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have not found how to restore an access to Ubuntu and after an 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hour, I have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reinstalled Ubuntu which install its grub2 allowing to boot on both 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> systems.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In Caudron, grub2 is not still used. Is time to switch to Grub2 ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have installed both ubuntu and mageia with no problem with regard to 
+</I>&gt;<i> booting ubuntu.
+</I>&gt;<i> You must have left ubuntu put the bootloader on the MBR. If you are 
+</I>&gt;<i> going to install several Linux distribution you should install the OS 
+</I>&gt;<i> on partitions and not on the MBR.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On my PC I use xosl as a bootloader and always install grub on the 
+</I>&gt;<i> boot partition. A few years back I got burned when I forgot to change 
+</I>&gt;<i> the default.
+</I>&gt;<i> One thing that pisses me off on all the Linux distribution, including 
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia is that the fact that the bootloader is on the MBR is sorta 
+</I>&gt;<i> hidden and it is not obvious how to switch it to the partition. It 
+</I>&gt;<i> should be on the top with boxes with the choice of where we want it 
+</I>&gt;<i> and a message that is not cryptic and makes it obvious what that does. 
+</I>&gt;<i> That way I don't see where we could accidentaly screw up our system.
+</I>&gt;<i> There is no problem if you have only one operating system to have grub 
+</I>&gt;<i> on the MBR but brain dead to put it there when you have several OS. 
+</I>&gt;<i> Specially when you have diffferent incompatible versions of grub.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The way I recovered the messed up boot was to boot on my xosl boot 
+</I>&gt;<i> diskette and restore its boot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here is the layout of one of my hard disks.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> P&#233;riph&#233;rique Amorce  D&#233;but        Fin      Blocs     Id  Syst&#232;me
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda1               1           1        8001   78  Inconnu &lt;-- xosl
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda2               2         261     2088450    6  FAT16 &lt;-- Free 
+</I>&gt;<i> Dos
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda3   *         262         276      120487+  83  Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda4             277      243201  1951295062+   5  Etendue
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda5             277         750     3807373+  82  Linux swap / 
+</I>&gt;<i> Solaris
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda6             751         765      120456   83  Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda7             766         780      120456   83  Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda8             781         795      120456   83  Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda9             796       60000   475564131   83  Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda10          60001      120000   481949968+  83  Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda11         120001      160000   321299968+  83  Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda12         160001      200000   321299968+  83  Linux
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda13         200001      243201   347012001   83  Linux
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Michel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>So the key point seems to be a separate boot partition, which links to 
+the root partitions of the different systems, which each have their 
+system-specific boot loaders.
+That could probably be done with grub without too much problem, if it 
+can't be installed like that already.
+(The initial boot step simply chain-loading to whatever system, as it 
+already does with ms-based systems.)
+Sounds like a lot more stable approach.  And it shouldn't take any 
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+Or maybe we should package xosl ?
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+&gt;<i> Le samedi 4 f&#233;vrier 2012 02:27:29, Michel Catudal a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> default. One thing that pisses me off on all the Linux distribution,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> including Mageia is that the fact that the bootloader is on the MBR is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sorta hidden and it is not obvious how to switch it to the partition. It
+</I>&gt;<i> How to boot if nothing is in the MBR? At least, we should install grub in both
+</I>&gt;<i> MBR and / partition. This way, it is easier to recover from a broken MBR.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway, most users only install one OS in one hardware. For other uses, you
+</I>&gt;<i> are expected to know what you are doing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>My complaint is that the way to switch it is not explained correctly. Sometimes we can't even see where the option is because the description of it is so cryptic.
+I never install less than 1 Linux distribution, if one fails I have the other one to rely on. Since usually grub is tied to one particular OS, if that one messes up you are screwed. A separate bootloader not relying on any OS either on the MBR or a 
+separate partition is the only acceptable way for me.
+It makes no sense whatsover for a bootloader to be tied to either windows, Linux, BSD or OS/2 and grub should always be on the boot partition.
+We are not in the days where disk space is expensive.
+
+The bootloader installation should be entirely separate from the operating system. You should have the option to first install a bootloader of your choice if one is not allready installed and then install the OS. When all is done you OS installer add 
+itself to the bootloader or you do it separately. xosl is an easy one but there are many others.
+
+Michel
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+<PRE>Le 2012-02-04 04:32, andre999 a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Michel Catudal a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 03/02/2012 19:05, Pierre Jarillon a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have installed Mageia on a disk after Ubuntu.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> After the install, I reboot and Ubuntu was ignored in Grub.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The owner of the PC was not happy and tought that Mageia is bad.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have not found how to restore an access to Ubuntu and after an hour, I have
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> reinstalled Ubuntu which install its grub2 allowing to boot on both systems.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In Caudron, grub2 is not still used. Is time to switch to Grub2 ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have installed both ubuntu and mageia with no problem with regard to booting ubuntu.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You must have left ubuntu put the bootloader on the MBR. If you are going to install several Linux distribution you should install the OS on partitions and not on the MBR.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On my PC I use xosl as a bootloader and always install grub on the boot partition. A few years back I got burned when I forgot to change the default.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> One thing that pisses me off on all the Linux distribution, including Mageia is that the fact that the bootloader is on the MBR is sorta hidden and it is not obvious how to switch it to the partition. It should be on the top with boxes with the choice 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of where we want it and a message that is not cryptic and makes it obvious what that does. That way I don't see where we could accidentaly screw up our system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is no problem if you have only one operating system to have grub on the MBR but brain dead to put it there when you have several OS. Specially when you have diffferent incompatible versions of grub.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The way I recovered the messed up boot was to boot on my xosl boot diskette and restore its boot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Here is the layout of one of my hard disks.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> P&#233;riph&#233;rique Amorce  D&#233;but        Fin      Blocs     Id  Syst&#232;me
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda1               1           1        8001   78  Inconnu &lt;-- xosl
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda2               2         261     2088450    6  FAT16 &lt;-- Free Dos
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda3   *         262         276      120487+  83  Linux
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda4             277      243201  1951295062+   5  Etendue
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda5             277         750     3807373+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda6             751         765      120456   83  Linux
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda7             766         780      120456   83  Linux
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda8             781         795      120456   83  Linux
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda9             796       60000   475564131   83  Linux
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda10          60001      120000   481949968+  83  Linux
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda11         120001      160000   321299968+  83  Linux
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda12         160001      200000   321299968+  83  Linux
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/sda13         200001      243201   347012001   83  Linux
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Michel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So the key point seems to be a separate boot partition, which links to the root partitions of the different systems, which each have their system-specific boot loaders.
+</I>&gt;<i> That could probably be done with grub without too much problem, if it can't be installed like that already.
+</I>&gt;<i> (The initial boot step simply chain-loading to whatever system, as it already does with ms-based systems.)
+</I>&gt;<i> Sounds like a lot more stable approach.  And it shouldn't take any longer to boot to Linux.
+</I>&gt;<i> Or maybe we should package xosl ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I have been using xosl for years and it works like a charm. On my computer I needed to install eComStation 2.1(OS/2) and it wants to be on drive A: just like windows. I disconnected the other drives and installed it. After the installation I put my other 2 
+2TB hards in and put the OS/2 disk as the 3rd disk.
+With xosl it was a breeze, you just tell it to swap drives. On my son's computer I have Win XP as the second drive, using the same method.
+
+The beauty with this is that you never have to worry about windows or OS/2 screwing up your Linux systems during its installation. With the low cost of hard disks it no longer make sense to try to put windows and linux on the same drive. You are still 
+stuck with the old approach on a laptop though.
+As far as I am concerned I will never use a laptop, the screen and keyboards are too damm small.
+
+One note on an issue I mentionned before with disk swaps by the bios.  The motherboard is a K9A2 form MSI. Just in case someone else had the same issue, you will find that very instructive.
+
+I have Scientific Linux, Ubuntu and Centos installed on the second drive, eComStation 2.1 on the third drive and Fedora 13, Mandriva 2000.1, Gentoo and Fedora 15 on the first drive. I then installed mageia on the second drive. After reboot it would not 
+boot on mageia or OS/2 but would boot on any OS on the first drive. It turned out that the drives had been swapped internally before the reboot. I found out recently that the reason had to do with boot sequence in the bios.
+Because of a storm the computer had shutdown and somehow the bios info had some odd boot sequence. The solution was to make sure that only the floppy, DVD (4th sata drive) and first disk would be in the list of bootable device.
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+The boot sequence was DVD, 1st and 3rd hard disk when I had the drive swap issue.
+With that issue the grub installation saw the 3rd drive as the second drive and mageia saw the second drive correctly as /dev/sdb
+It would not boot until I made a change in menu.lst to swap the drive for grub. I had to do the same on the other Linux
+Everytime I would update on Mageia I could no longer boot on Mageia. I didn't have that problem on Scientific Linux.
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+Lately I am using mostly gentoo, I may actually dump Mageia in the future if it is not possible to have gnome 2 or mate. Gnome 2 still works beautifully on gentoo.
+I hate gnome 3 with a passion and I find kde too slow compared to gnome 2.
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+&gt;<i> The bootloader installation should be entirely separate from the operating system.
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+  Michel, I think to avoid confusion, programs such as XOSL 
+(e.g. Extipl, GAG, SBM) are usually referred to as 'boot managers' (and
+usually reside in the MBR) , whereas the system-specific functions such
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+superblock of the /boot partion of whichever system they belong to.
+  The boot managers then facilitate the selection of whichever system,
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+&gt;<i> Le 2012-02-04 04:32, andre999 a &#233;crit :
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> I have been using xosl for years and it works like a charm. On my 
+</I>&gt;<i> computer I needed to install eComStation 2.1(OS/2) and it wants to be 
+</I>&gt;<i> on drive A: just like windows. I disconnected the other drives and 
+</I>&gt;<i> installed it. After the installation I put my other 2 2TB hards in and 
+</I>&gt;<i> put the OS/2 disk as the 3rd disk.
+</I>&gt;<i> With xosl it was a breeze, you just tell it to swap drives. On my 
+</I>&gt;<i> son's computer I have Win XP as the second drive, using the same method.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The beauty with this is that you never have to worry about windows or 
+</I>&gt;<i> OS/2 screwing up your Linux systems during its installation. With the 
+</I>&gt;<i> low cost of hard disks it no longer make sense to try to put windows 
+</I>&gt;<i> and linux on the same drive
+</I>
+Putting the different systems on the same disk shouldn't be a problem, 
+as long as selecting the system to boot is on its' own partition, like 
+xosl, and separate from the part which actually loads the particular 
+system.  The weakness of grub is that it tries to do both.
+With the xosl approach, if sector 0 is overwritten, it is super-simple 
+to recreate it without loosing anything.
+It would be nice to see grub split into separate system selection and 
+(Linux) system boot packages.  With a separate partition for the system 
+selection part, like xosl.
+If the Linux boot partition (containing /boot) is corrupted, the 
+computer becomes unbootable from the hard disk, if grub does the 
+selection of the system to boot.  And that can only be fixed by 
+repairing the Linux boot partition, which is a lot more problematic than 
+simply restoring sector 0 of the first disk.
+
+&gt;<i> ... You are still stuck with the old approach on a laptop though.
+</I>&gt;<i> As far as I am concerned I will never use a laptop, the screen and 
+</I>&gt;<i> keyboards are too damm small.
+</I>
+A portable still has the advantage of being portable :)
+Although small type is almost required to make the screen usable.  
+Bigger portables have full-sized keyboards.
+[...]
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Lately I am using mostly gentoo, I may actually dump Mageia in the 
+</I>&gt;<i> future if it is not possible to have gnome 2 or mate. Gnome 2 still 
+</I>&gt;<i> works beautifully on gentoo.
+</I>&gt;<i> I hate gnome 3 with a passion and I find kde too slow compared to gnome 2.
+</I>
+I use gnome2 as well (in preference to kde for the same reasons), but I 
+modify it to have only 1 panel on top.  (To give me more screen space.)
+I put all the static icons under one drawer (&quot;tiroir&quot;) icon, and group 
+all instances of the same application together.  Which works nicely.
+Under gnome3 there is at least one project (I forget the name) that 
+seems to provide the panels and menus removed by gnome3.  Hopefully that 
+will work.
+Otherwise I'll be looking for another desktop myself.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Michel
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 06:04:10 -0500, Michel Catudal wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The bootloader installation should be entirely separate from the operating system.
+</I>&gt;<i>    Michel, I think to avoid confusion, programs such as XOSL
+</I>&gt;<i> (e.g. Extipl, GAG, SBM) are usually referred to as 'boot managers' (and
+</I>&gt;<i> usually reside in the MBR) , whereas the system-specific functions such
+</I>&gt;<i> as LILO and GRUB are referred to as 'boot loaders', and reside in the
+</I>&gt;<i> superblock of the /boot partion of whichever system they belong to.
+</I>&gt;<i>    The boot managers then facilitate the selection of whichever system,
+</I>&gt;<i> is to be booted by linking to that system's bootloader on its partition.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+The diffference between the two is not always that clear. grub can also be seen as a boot manager.
+
+Actually I have xosl residing on a small primary partition about 16k, smallest possible on a 2TB hard disk.
+I found this to be perfect in the days of the OS/2 boot manager so I am keeping the same approach with a newer bootloader.
+I would use the OS/2 bootloader but it doesn't support newer hard disks.
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+The idea is that if the MBR is damaged by a linux distribution or OS/2.  I just boot on a floppy and restore the MBR.
+Nothing special is needed for the MBR, I just have to set the bootloader partition as active.
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+Michel
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+</I>&gt;<i> I use gnome2 as well (in preference to kde for the same reasons), but I modify it to have only 1 panel on top.  (To give me more screen space.)
+</I>&gt;<i> I put all the static icons under one drawer (&quot;tiroir&quot;) icon, and group all instances of the same application together.  Which works nicely.
+</I>&gt;<i> Under gnome3 there is at least one project (I forget the name) that seems to provide the panels and menus removed by gnome3.  Hopefully that will work.
+</I>&gt;<i> Otherwise I'll be looking for another desktop myself.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>For me space is not an issue with my 24 inch monitor. I am actually looking at a bigger one, being spoiled at work with two monitors, one of them being  30 inches.
+
+I had made the mistake of not blocking gnome 3 stuff and accidentally had it installed on my old gentoo. I spent several days trying to recover from the damage and found it so much a pain that I decided to recreate the whole OS on another partition. Since 
+I had a 480G free partition and a 100MB free partition , that was not a big deal.
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+In gnome 2, I have a bar on top and one on the bottom. On top I have pull down menus and icons and on the bottom the information on which app is open. Gnome 3 removed all that stuff and makes the desktop completely useless. I had fits when I saw the damage 
+and I couldn't wait to swap it with kde. Luckily I had it installed. It took me about 20 minutes to figure out how to do the switch. I couldn't stand how slow kde was so I switched to Mageia which had gnome 2 as a desktop.
+I had fits when I saw that Mageia is getting ready to replace gnome 2 with gnome 3. This why I went back to gentoo. There is no way in hell that I will accept gnome 3 in its current form on my PC.
+
+I had a strange issue in kde, when I clicked to open a terminal I woud get the equivalent of the microsoft hour glass for what seems to be quite a while. In gnome 2 the opening of the terminal is almost instant. I have the same problem in Fedora 15 and gentoo.
+
+I am curious to know, is it the same on mageia? I haven't installed kde on Mageia so I have no way of knowing.
+
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+Michel
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+&gt;<i> On 05.02.2012 00:54, nicolas vigier wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So I have updated the youri package and installed it on valstar.
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 5 February 2012 06:15, Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 05.02.2012 00:54, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; So I have updated the youri package and installed it on valstar.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; qmmp seems bouncing for 4 hours.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually the BS seems stuck for hours now...
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+The packages were actually uploaded, but their status not set as
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, 05 Feb 2012, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 5 February 2012 06:15, Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; On 05.02.2012 00:54, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; So I have updated the youri package and installed it on valstar.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; qmmp seems bouncing for 4 hours.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Actually the BS seems stuck for hours now...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The packages were actually uploaded, but their status not set as
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;uploaded&quot;. This should now be fixed (by installing latest version of
+</I>&gt;<i> ulri/emi on valstar).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+There is another problem, urpmi keeps crashing for abrt on:
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+installing texlive-20110705-4.mga2.i586.rpm
+libreport-abrt_web0-2.0.8-5.mga2.i586.rpm
+xmltex-20020625-1.mga1.noarch.rpm libxcb-xinerama0-1.8-1.mga2.i586.rpm
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+libsasl2-devel-2.1.23-15.mga2.i586.rpm
+libacl-devel-2.2.51-3.mga2.i586.rpm from /var/cache/urpmi/rpms
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+created transaction for installing on / (remove=0, install=0, upgrade=8)
+Preparing...                     #######################################
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+  I did look at XOSL before settling with Extipl, but found several
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+Manager (which I had also tried separately but could not get to execute
+on a floppy, for trial purposes). Why is that there?
+  It also encourages one to install the XOSL partition manager.
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+keeps talking about 'DOS', and 'FAT32', and LILO!  (I use GRUB as
+bootloader), so I abandoned it in favour of Extipl - though GAG has a
+nice user interface.
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 08/10/11 20:05 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 8 October 2011 19:35, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I've just pushed some changes that disable OSS sound under PulseAudio
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sound profile.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you want to use OSS apps with PulseAudio, please install &quot;ossp&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> package which I've also just submitted.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think ultimately we'll disable ALSA OSS emulation completely and use
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ossp in both PA and non-PA modes but I hear that the non-PA usage isn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> quite as nice, so I'm holding off doing this just yet.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> then task-pa should suggests ossp...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm undecided about this. I'm not sure if the default setup should
+</I>&gt;<i> include OSS sound support or not. Perhaps it would be better left as
+</I>&gt;<i> something that users install if they need it.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> As we'll eventually have to go through all the packages that require
+</I>&gt;<i> soundwrapper, perhaps we could either:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> a) Replace the soundwrapper require with a ossp require.
+</I>&gt;<i> b) Patch soundwrapper such that it's a noop if osspd is running and make
+</I>&gt;<i> it require ossp.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The latter would mean less churn on packages, but it's arguably just
+</I>&gt;<i> delaying the inevitable work of doing it eventually.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thoughts?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+I've released and uploaded a new version of soundwrapper (first one in 4 years :o) that is a no-op if osspd is running.
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+    <B>Jani V&#228;limaa</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/2/5 julien &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Name &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: compiz &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version &#160; &#160; : 0.9.7 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release &#160; &#160; : 0.bzr2979.mga2 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Build Date: Sun Feb &#160;5 19:03:12 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group &#160; &#160; &#160; : System/X11 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: 884322 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; License: GPLv2+ and LGPLv2+ and MIT
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature &#160; : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager &#160; &#160;: julien &lt;julien&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; : <A HREF="http://www.compiz.org/">http://www.compiz.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary &#160; &#160; : OpenGL composite manager for Xgl and AIGLX
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> Compiz is an OpenGL composite manager for Xgl and AIGLX.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> julien &lt;julien&gt; 0.9.7-0.bzr2979.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 204813
+</I>&gt;<i> - update to prerelease 0.9.7
+</I>&gt;<i> - switch to launchpad as source
+</I>&gt;<i> - drop upstreamed patches
+</I>
+IMHO the release tag is a bit wrong, now you don't have the &quot;release&quot;
+part to bump when building another release of the same pkg.
+
+When using prereleases or snapshots you should use '%mkrel -c
+%{snapshot} %{rel}' (0.%snapshot.%rel) to get more proper release tag.
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Am 07.01.2012 18:36, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 16.04.2011 16:05, schrieb Christiaan Welvaart:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Tux99 wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just downloaded the latest Seamonkey 2.0.12 SRPM from Mandriva cooker and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rebuilt it on my Mageia VM and it built flawlessly, I only had to remove
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> all the obsolete &quot;%if %mdkversion&quot; sections, but all dependecies are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> available in Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So technically importing Seamonkey into Mageia seems straightforward, the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> only issue is licensing (as for Firefox).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Christiaan I'm a newbie packager here at Mageia so personally I'd much
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> prefer if you maintain this package for Mageia, it looks far too complex
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for me. :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I uploaded &quot;iceape 2.0.12&quot; a few days ago, changing the name and icons/logo
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> took me almost a month. Unfortunately there are still some bugs in this
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> area:  the release notes menu item for example currently still points to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> seamonkey. It should probably point to a mageia wiki page.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Since I don't like the icons that is used for debian's iceape, I created a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> new icon based on the logo. It looks like it can still be improved, however,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and the throbber is currently static. So it would be great if someone could
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> re-do the icon (without creating a completely new design), and animate it for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the throbber (he SVG files are in iceape-branding.tar in the source rpm and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> svn)...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>     Christiaan
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As iceape for mga1 hasn't seen any update in the last 6 months,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and there are multiple serious security issues that need fixing,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> how do we handle this?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And i've found no real reason for this rebranding in the first place,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and this seems also be the case for Fedora, and they have a strong
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> legal department.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=seamonkey.git">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=seamonkey.git</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;From what i read on bugreports between debian packagers and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mozilla guys about that branding situation, the only thing that would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> need to be done to seamonkey (actually the same would need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be done for all our mozilla packages, unless we have permission
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to use the branding, which would imply that all our modifications
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on mozilla packages would need to be reviewed and ack-ed by mozilla
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to get the branding permission) would be to use --disable-official-branding
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> configure option.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ping?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Pinging again, because nobody replied. This should also be discussed
+at next packager meeting, together with the situation according the branding
+of other mozilla packages. Because we have branding enabled, which we shouldn't
+have as we can't use branding AND have modified builds (different than upstream
+tarball)
+without approval of all modifications from mozilla.
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+For reference, here's the upstream report i was talking about, which i've
+recently found again:
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555935">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555935</A>
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+    <B>Funda Wang</B> 
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+* For cauldron, we always have latest versions of firefox and thunderbird,
+no matter whether it is ESR.
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+* For released distros, we always update it till next ESR. i.e., for Mageia
+1, we will have FF 9.0.1, 10.0, 10.0.1, 10.0.2, 10.0.3, but not 11.0. If
+time passed, we will go directly 10.0.x to 17.0 ESR.
+
+* For xulrunner, we always use latest ESR version for cauldron and released
+distros.
+&#22312; 2012-1-13 &#19978;&#21320;9:20&#65292;&quot;Maarten Vanraes&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;&#20889;&#36947;&#65306;
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+&gt;<i> see <A HREF="https://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2012/01/10/delivering-a-mozilla-firefox-">https://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2012/01/10/delivering-a-mozilla-firefox-</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> extended-support-release/
+</I>&gt;<i> see <A HREF="https://wiki.mozilla.org/images/9/9d/Esr-release-overview.png">https://wiki.mozilla.org/images/9/9d/Esr-release-overview.png</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ESR is a 1y extended supported release...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> looking at the image we'd be having supported versions for our 9month
+</I>&gt;<i> release
+</I>&gt;<i> schedule every time... we should totally use this release and not go
+</I>&gt;<i> towards
+</I>&gt;<i> FF11 for our release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We've been complaining about the too quick release schedule... this is our
+</I>&gt;<i> chance!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ( i think if the FF maintainer wishes, he could also do backports of the
+</I>&gt;<i> regular releases... )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i'm hoping everyone agrees? including FF maintainer?
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+<PRE>Le 2012-02-05 09:58, Maurice Batey a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Sat, 04 Feb 2012 21:04:55 -0500, Michel Catudal wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have xosl residing on a small primary partition about 16k,
+</I>&gt;<i>    I did look at XOSL before settling with Extipl, but found several
+</I>&gt;<i> things that put me off:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    (1) It appears to need to occupy a FAT32 (or similar)
+</I>&gt;<i> partition. (As an extension to what goes in the MBR?)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    (2) One component in the download package is SBM - another Boot
+</I>&gt;<i> Manager (which I had also tried separately but could not get to execute
+</I>&gt;<i> on a floppy, for trial purposes). Why is that there?
+</I>&gt;<i>    It also encourages one to install the XOSL partition manager.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>     (3) Although I signed up for the IOSL forum, it seems I would have to
+</I>&gt;<i> then register with Yahoo to do anything  useful (e.g. ask questions).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All I wanted to do is install XSOL in the MBR and try it, but the doc
+</I>&gt;<i> keeps talking about 'DOS', and 'FAT32', and LILO!  (I use GRUB as
+</I>&gt;<i> bootloader), so I abandoned it in favour of Extipl - though GAG has a
+</I>&gt;<i> nice user interface.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+It started as a dos application but you should be able to install it from Linux.  I install mine from PC Dos or Freedos depending on which dos I have on the computer. On my computers I always install it on a separate partition, but you can also install it 
+on the MBR. The size of my xosl partition is around 16k because that is the smallest size I can create a partition under Linux.
+The OS/2 bootloader was around 7k. Who care if it is FAT!
+On my son's computer I installed it on the MBR.  I installed it using a boot floppy but you should be able to install either from Linux or a freedos live CD. You could create a USB freedos installation.
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+If you have a floppy drive, create a freedos boot disk and put the files you need and boot on it. If not do the same thing on a USB jump drive.
+The beauty with xosl , it is small and works nicely. Being able to put it on a separate partition is a huge advantage over any other bootloader.
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+</I>&gt;<i> I would suggest another support policy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * For cauldron, we always have latest versions of firefox and 
+</I>&gt;<i> thunderbird, no matter whether it is ESR.
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+</I>&gt;<i> * For released distros, we always update it till next ESR. i.e., for 
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1, we will have FF 9.0.1, 10.0, 10.0.1, 10.0.2, 10.0.3, but not 
+</I>&gt;<i> 11.0. If time passed, we will go directly 10.0.x to 17.0 ESR.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>And what if you have fx13 on cauldron and we need to switch to stable 
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+&gt;<i> 06.02.2012 04:07, Funda Wang kirjutas:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would suggest another support policy.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * For cauldron, we always have latest versions of firefox and thunderbird,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> no matter whether it is ESR.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * For released distros, we always update it till next ESR. i.e., for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 1, we will have FF 9.0.1, 10.0, 10.0.1, 10.0.2, 10.0.3, but not 11.0.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If time passed, we will go directly 10.0.x to 17.0 ESR.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And what if you have fx13 on cauldron and we need to switch to stable
+</I>&gt;<i> (mga2)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+i think then that we should stick to FF 10.x in cauldron  from now to
+mageia 2 release and then update again when mageia 2 will be released
+and cauldron reopen
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+2. Personally, as an average user, I tend to delete system FF 10, if there
+is FF13 elsewhere. I'm afraid most users think the same. Of course, I could
+be wrong.
+&#22312; 2012-2-6 &#19979;&#21320;3:03&#65292;&quot;Sander Lepik&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sander.lepik at eesti.ee</A>&gt;&#20889;&#36947;&#65306;
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+&gt;<i> 06.02.2012 04:07, Funda Wang kirjutas:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would suggest another support policy.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * For cauldron, we always have latest versions of firefox and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thunderbird, no matter whether it is ESR.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * For released distros, we always update it till next ESR. i.e., for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 1, we will have FF 9.0.1, 10.0, 10.0.1, 10.0.2, 10.0.3, but not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 11.0. If time passed, we will go directly 10.0.x to 17.0 ESR.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  And what if you have fx13 on cauldron and we need to switch to stable
+</I>&gt;<i> (mga2)?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Sander
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+upstream, neither latest version nor latest supported version.
+
+And, such an update policy is based on the imagination of 70% of Mageia 2
+users will upgrade to Mageia 3 immediately when released.
+&#22312; 2012-2-6 &#19978;&#21320;10:07&#65292;&quot;Funda Wang&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;&#20889;&#36947;&#65306;
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+&gt;<i> I would suggest another support policy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * For cauldron, we always have latest versions of firefox and thunderbird,
+</I>&gt;<i> no matter whether it is ESR.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * For released distros, we always update it till next ESR. i.e., for
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1, we will have FF 9.0.1, 10.0, 10.0.1, 10.0.2, 10.0.3, but not
+</I>&gt;<i> 11.0. If time passed, we will go directly 10.0.x to 17.0 ESR.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * For xulrunner, we always use latest ESR version for cauldron and
+</I>&gt;<i> released distros.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#22312; 2012-1-13 &#19978;&#21320;9:20&#65292;&quot;Maarten Vanraes&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;&#20889;&#36947;&#65306;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> see
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2012/01/10/delivering-a-mozilla-firefox-">https://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2012/01/10/delivering-a-mozilla-firefox-</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> extended-support-release/&lt;<A HREF="https://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2012/01/10/delivering-a-mozilla-firefox-extended-support-release/">https://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2012/01/10/delivering-a-mozilla-firefox-extended-support-release/</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> see <A HREF="https://wiki.mozilla.org/images/9/9d/Esr-release-overview.png">https://wiki.mozilla.org/images/9/9d/Esr-release-overview.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ESR is a 1y extended supported release...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> looking at the image we'd be having supported versions for our 9month
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> schedule every time... we should totally use this release and not go
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> towards
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> FF11 for our release.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We've been complaining about the too quick release schedule... this is our
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> chance!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ( i think if the FF maintainer wishes, he could also do backports of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> regular releases... )
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i'm hoping everyone agrees? including FF maintainer?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
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+    <B>Funda Wang</B> 
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+with FF10, then some day we will come to a situation of firefox-10.0.4 and
+firefox-beta-15b1 for Mageia 2, which is unacceptable. Or, we should make
+an exception on firefox-beta, it should be obsoleted by updated firefox for
+stable distros.
+&#22312; 2012-2-6 &#19979;&#21320;3:27&#65292;&quot;Funda Wang&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;&#20889;&#36947;&#65306;
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+&gt;<i> The key is, we always have the latest series of supported product line
+</I>&gt;<i> from upstream, neither latest version nor latest supported version.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And, such an update policy is based on the imagination of 70% of Mageia 2
+</I>&gt;<i> users will upgrade to Mageia 3 immediately when released.
+</I>&gt;<i> &#22312; 2012-2-6 &#19978;&#21320;10:07&#65292;&quot;Funda Wang&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt;&#20889;&#36947;&#65306;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would suggest another support policy.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * For cauldron, we always have latest versions of firefox and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thunderbird, no matter whether it is ESR.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * For released distros, we always update it till next ESR. i.e., for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia 1, we will have FF 9.0.1, 10.0, 10.0.1, 10.0.2, 10.0.3, but not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 11.0. If time passed, we will go directly 10.0.x to 17.0 ESR.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * For xulrunner, we always use latest ESR version for cauldron and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> released distros.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#22312; 2012-1-13 &#19978;&#21320;9:20&#65292;&quot;Maarten Vanraes&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;&#20889;&#36947;&#65306;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> see
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2012/01/10/delivering-a-mozilla-firefox-">https://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2012/01/10/delivering-a-mozilla-firefox-</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> extended-support-release/&lt;<A HREF="https://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2012/01/10/delivering-a-mozilla-firefox-extended-support-release/">https://blog.mozilla.com/blog/2012/01/10/delivering-a-mozilla-firefox-extended-support-release/</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> see <A HREF="https://wiki.mozilla.org/images/9/9d/Esr-release-overview.png">https://wiki.mozilla.org/images/9/9d/Esr-release-overview.png</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ESR is a 1y extended supported release...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> looking at the image we'd be having supported versions for our 9month
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> release
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> schedule every time... we should totally use this release and not go
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> towards
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> FF11 for our release.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> We've been complaining about the too quick release schedule... this is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> our
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> chance!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ( i think if the FF maintainer wishes, he could also do backports of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> regular releases... )
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> i'm hoping everyone agrees? including FF maintainer?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> And, don't forget, we still have a package named firefox-beta. If we 
+</I>&gt;<i> stick with FF10, then some day we will come to a situation of 
+</I>&gt;<i> firefox-10.0.4 and firefox-beta-15b1 for Mageia 2, which is 
+</I>&gt;<i> unacceptable. Or, we should make an exception on firefox-beta, it 
+</I>&gt;<i> should be obsoleted by updated firefox for stable distros.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Indeed, firefox-beta must be obsoleted on stable release like chrome's 
+similar versions are as we don't have maintaner who wants to keep them 
+up-to-date on stable releases.
+I agree with D.Morgan that if we want to continue with ESR version then 
+cauldron will stay on 10.0 (not sure how we can have newer versions of 
+beta if they depend on the same packages).
+And it's also true that we will lose some users if they don't want to 
+use tarball version and will pick distro that can keep browsers 
+up-to-date. Sad, but true.
+
+(Funda, can you please stop top-posting. This is rude man!)
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+    <B>Angelo Naselli</B> 
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> matteo &lt;matteo&gt; 2.8.6.3-1.mga2:
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+<PRE>Hello,
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+While updating youri and iurt packages yesterday I noticed that it's
+not easy to make new versions of mageia software that we have on svn
+soft repository, and each of them has different makefile rules to
+generate tarballs or sometimes update packages. Most versions are not
+tagged because you have to write a long command line to do it. So in
+the train from fosdem yesterday I created a small script to tag versions,
+create tarballs and publish them on mageia mirrors, for the software on
+svn soft repository.
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+You can install it with mgasoft package on cauldron.
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+To tag a new version :
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+To create a tarball :
+$ mgasoft tar [name] [version]
+Or a tarball from trunk, for testing :
+$ mgasoft tar [name] trunk
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+To publish a tarball on mageia mirrors :
+$ mgasoft publish [name] [version]
+This will create this file on mirrors :
+/software/[name]/[name]-[version].tar.xz
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+Some things that do not work now :
+ - software in sub-directories on the svn (like build_system/mgarepo or
+   build_system/iurt). We can change the script to support this, but it
+   will become more complicated and slower. Or we can move everything in
+   the root directory and stop using sub-directories like build_system.
+
+Some things I plan to add :
+ - gpg signature of the files on mirrors
+ - upload of the files on binrepo, so you don't need to upload them when
+   updating the package
+ - option to download tarball from binrepo instead of generating it (to
+   create package using the same tarball as on mirrors)
+ - option to quickly see diff between two versions
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+    <B>Pierre Jarillon</B> 
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+<PRE>Le lundi 6 f&#233;vrier 2012 03:50:27, Michel Catudal a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> If you have a floppy drive, create a freedos boot disk and put the files
+</I>&gt;<i> you need and boot on it. If not do the same thing on a USB jump drive. The
+</I>&gt;<i> beauty with xosl , it is small and works nicely. Being able to put it on a
+</I>&gt;<i> separate partition is a huge advantage over any other bootloader.
+</I>
+Sure, you are true. But there is a &quot;little&quot; problem: Mageia and Ubuntu don't 
+ask if you want a new MBR, they rebuilt it without any question.
+Formely, Mandriva asked where put the boot loader, but few people understand 
+such a question which make the installation complicated for a beginner.
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+-- 
+Pierre Jarillon - <A HREF="http://pjarillon.free.fr/">http://pjarillon.free.fr/</A>
+Vice-pr&#233;sident de l'ABUL : <A HREF="http://abul.org">http://abul.org</A>
+Microsoft est &#224; l'informatique ce que McDonald est &#224; la gastronomie
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+    <B>Maurice Batey</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Mageia and Ubuntu
+</I>&gt;<i> don't ask if you want a new MBR, they rebuilt it without any question.
+</I>&gt;<i> Formely, Mandriva asked where put the boot loader,
+</I>
+ I haven't tried Ubuntu, but have installed Mageia, PCLinixOS, Mandriva
+2010 and 2011, and OpenSUSE 12.1, and all of them offered the option
+of putting the bootloader (e.g. GRUB) either in the MBR or on the root
+partition.
+  (I always choose the latter, to faciilate use of a boot manager.)
+
+However, OpenSUSE 12.1 did a particularly good job of recognising
+existing Linux installlations, so that even booting it via the MBR would
+still offer a selection from all those installations.
+   (see photo at:  <A HREF="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10969499/suse-bootup.JPG">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10969499/suse-bootup.JPG</A> )
+- although the more detailed information came from the partition labels.
+
+A beginner would probably have not got around to multiple installs yet,
+so the MBR would be the simplest thing to use, until more experienced.
+-- 
+/\/\aurice 
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+    <B>Maurice Batey</B> 
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+<PRE>On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:01:42 +0100, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Mageia and Ubuntu
+</I>&gt;<i> don't ask if you want a new MBR, they rebuilt it without any question.
+</I>&gt;<i> Formely, Mandriva asked where put the boot loader, but few people
+</I>&gt;<i> understand such a question which make the installation complicated for a
+</I>&gt;<i> beginner.
+</I>
+I haven't tried Ubuntu recently, but have installed Mandriva 2010 &amp;
+2011, Mageia 1, PCLinuxOS, and OpenSUSE 12.1, all of which  offered the
+option of putting the bootloader either in the MBR or on the root
+partiton. 
+  (I always choose the latter, to facilitate use of a bootloader.)
+
+A beginner would be unlikely to be using multiple Linux installations,
+so the simplest approach would be the bootloader in the MBR.
+
+Even so,  most distributions make an effort to recognise other
+installs and incorporate them in the boot menu.
+  A good example is OpenSUSE 12.1 - see photo at: 
+
+      <A HREF="http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10969499/suse-bootup.JPG">http://dl.dropbox.com/u/10969499/suse-bootup.JPG</A>
+-- 
+/\/\aurice 
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+    <B>Maurice Batey</B> 
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+<PRE>On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:50:27 -0500, Michel Catudal wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On my son's computer I installed it on the MBR. 
+</I>
+  I couldn't figure out how to do that. It seemed to me that it had to
+have a FAT32 partition, and that one would need to be running Windows
+to run the .exe file...
+
+&gt;<i> You could create a USB freedos installation.
+</I>
+  I want the boot manage in  the MBR, not on a USB device.
+
+&gt;<i> The
+</I>&gt;<i> beauty with xosl , it is small and works nicely. Being able to put it on a
+</I>&gt;<i> separate partition is a huge advantage over any other bootloader.
+</I>
+  But I already use GRUB (as put on the root partition of each nstall)
+as boot loader. I have several versions of Linux in various partitions.
+   What I'm looking for is a boot *manager* in the MBR which will show
+me all the installs and allow me to select one of them to boot.
+
+I've tried GAG (the best, but it has some technical hangup that
+prevents it from writing its format updates back into the MBR of
+/dev/sda, so I've been using it on floppy).
+
+I couldn't get SBM to work on a floppy (for initial testing) so am
+currently using Extipl (which Mandriva 2010.2 has in its software
+library and is very easy to install on floppy or MBR, but has a
+low-level presentation of the bootable installations).
+
+Many thanks for your efforts to help with XOSL, but I still simply
+cannot get a clear enough understanding of how the thing is set up, so I
+will pass on this one.  :-(
+
+Merci mille fois...
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:50:27 -0500, Michel Catudal wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On my son's computer I installed it on the MBR.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;<i>    I couldn't figure out how to do that. It seemed to me that it had to
+</I>&gt;<i> have a FAT32 partition, and that one would need to be running Windows
+</I>&gt;<i> to run the .exe file...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You could create a USB freedos installation.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;<i>    I want the boot manage in  the MBR, not on a USB device.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> beauty with xosl , it is small and works nicely. Being able to put it on a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> separate partition is a huge advantage over any other bootloader.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;<i>    But I already use GRUB (as put on the root partition of each nstall)
+</I>&gt;<i> as boot loader. I have several versions of Linux in various partitions.
+</I>&gt;<i>     What I'm looking for is a boot *manager* in the MBR which will show
+</I>&gt;<i> me all the installs and allow me to select one of them to boot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've tried GAG (the best, but it has some technical hangup that
+</I>&gt;<i> prevents it from writing its format updates back into the MBR of
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/sda, so I've been using it on floppy).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I couldn't get SBM to work on a floppy (for initial testing) so am
+</I>&gt;<i> currently using Extipl (which Mandriva 2010.2 has in its software
+</I>&gt;<i> library and is very easy to install on floppy or MBR, but has a
+</I>&gt;<i> low-level presentation of the bootable installations).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Many thanks for your efforts to help with XOSL, but I still simply
+</I>&gt;<i> cannot get a clear enough understanding of how the thing is set up, so I
+</I>&gt;<i> will pass on this one.  :-(
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Merci mille fois...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>It was in Mandriva since version 9.1, and is also in mga1/core.
+It is in the rpm group system/kernel-and-material, like grub.
+I think it would be more appropriate if they (grub, extipl and similar 
+packages) were placed in system/configuration/boot-and-init.
+As well as not being lost among the huge number of kernel packages, 
+their entire purpose is booting the computer, including configuration.
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, 06 Feb 2012 17:01:42 +0100, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
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+I thought I had lost the first one, so did it all over again...
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+since 2002.)
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+Since extipl uses unallocated sectors on the disk, and not a separate 
+partition, it can't be used on disks with gpt partition tables.  (The 
+usually unallocated 62 sectors at the beginning of a disk with an 
+ms-style mbr partition table contain the larger gpt partition table of 
+32 sectors.)
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+install the boot partition selector there.
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+&gt;<i> Am 07.01.2012 18:36, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 16.04.2011 16:05, schrieb Christiaan Welvaart:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Tux99 wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just downloaded the latest Seamonkey 2.0.12 SRPM from Mandriva cooker and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rebuilt it on my Mageia VM and it built flawlessly, I only had to remove
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> all the obsolete &quot;%if %mdkversion&quot; sections, but all dependecies are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> available in Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So technically importing Seamonkey into Mageia seems straightforward, the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> only issue is licensing (as for Firefox).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Christiaan I'm a newbie packager here at Mageia so personally I'd much
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> prefer if you maintain this package for Mageia, it looks far too complex
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for me. :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I uploaded &quot;iceape 2.0.12&quot; a few days ago, changing the name and icons/logo
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> took me almost a month. Unfortunately there are still some bugs in this
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> area:  the release notes menu item for example currently still points to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> seamonkey. It should probably point to a mageia wiki page.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Since I don't like the icons that is used for debian's iceape, I created a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> new icon based on the logo. It looks like it can still be improved, however,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and the throbber is currently static. So it would be great if someone could
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> re-do the icon (without creating a completely new design), and animate it for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the throbber (he SVG files are in iceape-branding.tar in the source rpm and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> svn)...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>     Christiaan
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As iceape for mga1 hasn't seen any update in the last 6 months,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and there are multiple serious security issues that need fixing,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> how do we handle this?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And i've found no real reason for this rebranding in the first place,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and this seems also be the case for Fedora, and they have a strong
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> legal department.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=seamonkey.git">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=seamonkey.git</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;From what i read on bugreports between debian packagers and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mozilla guys about that branding situation, the only thing that would
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> need to be done to seamonkey (actually the same would need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be done for all our mozilla packages, unless we have permission
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to use the branding, which would imply that all our modifications
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on mozilla packages would need to be reviewed and ack-ed by mozilla
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to get the branding permission) would be to use --disable-official-branding
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> configure option.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ping?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Pinging again, because nobody replied. This should also be discussed
+at next packager meeting, together with the situation according the branding
+of other mozilla packages. Because we have branding enabled, which we shouldn't
+have as we can't use branding AND have modified builds (different than upstream
+tarball)
+without approval of all modifications from mozilla.
+
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+For reference, here's the upstream report i was talking about, which i've
+recently found again:
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555935">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555935</A>
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+&gt;<i> Am 12.01.2012 16:55, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 07.01.2012 18:36, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 16.04.2011 16:05, schrieb Christiaan Welvaart:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Tux99 wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just downloaded the latest Seamonkey 2.0.12 SRPM from Mandriva cooker and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rebuilt it on my Mageia VM and it built flawlessly, I only had to remove
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> all the obsolete &quot;%if %mdkversion&quot; sections, but all dependecies are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> available in Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So technically importing Seamonkey into Mageia seems straightforward, the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> only issue is licensing (as for Firefox).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Christiaan I'm a newbie packager here at Mageia so personally I'd much
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> prefer if you maintain this package for Mageia, it looks far too complex
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for me. :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I uploaded &quot;iceape 2.0.12&quot; a few days ago, changing the name and icons/logo
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> took me almost a month. Unfortunately there are still some bugs in this
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> area:  the release notes menu item for example currently still points to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> seamonkey. It should probably point to a mageia wiki page.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Since I don't like the icons that is used for debian's iceape, I created a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> new icon based on the logo. It looks like it can still be improved, however,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and the throbber is currently static. So it would be great if someone could
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> re-do the icon (without creating a completely new design), and animate it for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the throbber (he SVG files are in iceape-branding.tar in the source rpm and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> svn)...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>      Christiaan
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As iceape for mga1 hasn't seen any update in the last 6 months,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and there are multiple serious security issues that need fixing,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> how do we handle this?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And i've found no real reason for this rebranding in the first place,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and this seems also be the case for Fedora, and they have a strong
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> legal department.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=seamonkey.git">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=seamonkey.git</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; From what i read on bugreports between debian packagers and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mozilla guys about that branding situation, the only thing that would
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> need to be done to seamonkey (actually the same would need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be done for all our mozilla packages, unless we have permission
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to use the branding, which would imply that all our modifications
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> on mozilla packages would need to be reviewed and ack-ed by mozilla
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to get the branding permission) would be to use --disable-official-branding
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> configure option.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ping?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Pinging again, because nobody replied. This should also be discussed
+</I>&gt;<i> at next packager meeting, together with the situation according the branding
+</I>&gt;<i> of other mozilla packages. Because we have branding enabled, which we shouldn't
+</I>&gt;<i> have as we can't use branding AND have modified builds (different than upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> tarball)
+</I>&gt;<i> without approval of all modifications from mozilla.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For reference, here's the upstream report i was talking about, which i've
+</I>&gt;<i> recently found again:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555935">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555935</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> resending because of maintainer mail adress typo
+</I>In my opinion we can drop that package, and in its place have 
+Firefox-ESR, next to standard Firefox.
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+<PRE>Am 06.02.2012 21:43, schrieb Kamil Rytarowski:
+&gt;<i> On 06.02.2012 21:04, Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 12.01.2012 16:55, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 07.01.2012 18:36, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 16.04.2011 16:05, schrieb Christiaan Welvaart:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Tux99 wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just downloaded the latest Seamonkey 2.0.12 SRPM from Mandriva cooker and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rebuilt it on my Mageia VM and it built flawlessly, I only had to remove
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> all the obsolete &quot;%if %mdkversion&quot; sections, but all dependecies are
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> available in Mageia.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So technically importing Seamonkey into Mageia seems straightforward, the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> only issue is licensing (as for Firefox).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Christiaan I'm a newbie packager here at Mageia so personally I'd much
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> prefer if you maintain this package for Mageia, it looks far too complex
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for me. :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I uploaded &quot;iceape 2.0.12&quot; a few days ago, changing the name and icons/logo
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> took me almost a month. Unfortunately there are still some bugs in this
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> area:  the release notes menu item for example currently still points to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> seamonkey. It should probably point to a mageia wiki page.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Since I don't like the icons that is used for debian's iceape, I created a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> new icon based on the logo. It looks like it can still be improved, however,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and the throbber is currently static. So it would be great if someone could
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> re-do the icon (without creating a completely new design), and animate it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the throbber (he SVG files are in iceape-branding.tar in the source rpm and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> svn)...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>      Christiaan
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As iceape for mga1 hasn't seen any update in the last 6 months,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and there are multiple serious security issues that need fixing,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> how do we handle this?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And i've found no real reason for this rebranding in the first place,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and this seems also be the case for Fedora, and they have a strong
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> legal department.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=seamonkey.git">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=seamonkey.git</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; From what i read on bugreports between debian packagers and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mozilla guys about that branding situation, the only thing that would
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> need to be done to seamonkey (actually the same would need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be done for all our mozilla packages, unless we have permission
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to use the branding, which would imply that all our modifications
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> on mozilla packages would need to be reviewed and ack-ed by mozilla
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to get the branding permission) would be to use --disable-official-branding
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> configure option.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ping?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Pinging again, because nobody replied. This should also be discussed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> at next packager meeting, together with the situation according the branding
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of other mozilla packages. Because we have branding enabled, which we shouldn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have as we can't use branding AND have modified builds (different than upstream
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tarball)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> without approval of all modifications from mozilla.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For reference, here's the upstream report i was talking about, which i've
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> recently found again:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555935">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555935</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -- 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> resending because of maintainer mail adress typo
+</I>&gt;<i> In my opinion we can drop that package, and in its place have Firefox-ESR,
+</I>&gt;<i> next to standard Firefox.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>How are we supposed to drop seamonkey/iceape from a released distro?
+BTW: Do you use seamonkey/iceape, and know how it is different from a
+standalone browser like firefox?
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+&gt;<i> Am 06.02.2012 21:43, schrieb Kamil Rytarowski:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In my opinion we can drop that package, and in its place have Firefox-ESR,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> next to standard Firefox.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How are we supposed to drop seamonkey/iceape from a released distro?
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW: Do you use seamonkey/iceape, and know how it is different from a
+</I>&gt;<i> standalone browser like firefox?
+</I>I'm thinking about Mageia 2 right now. It seems there is a maintainer 
+lacking for many months.
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+Yes, I know. It's different from Friefox and Thunderbird, but in my 
+opinion for a standard user it's replaceable by ff and tb.
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+<PRE>Op maandag 06 februari 2012 08:50:21 schreef Sander Lepik:
+&gt;<i> 06.02.2012 09:38, Funda Wang kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And, don't forget, we still have a package named firefox-beta. If we
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; stick with FF10, then some day we will come to a situation of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; firefox-10.0.4 and firefox-beta-15b1 for Mageia 2, which is
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; unacceptable. Or, we should make an exception on firefox-beta, it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; should be obsoleted by updated firefox for stable distros.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Indeed, firefox-beta must be obsoleted on stable release like chrome's
+</I>&gt;<i> similar versions are as we don't have maintaner who wants to keep them
+</I>&gt;<i> up-to-date on stable releases.
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree with D.Morgan that if we want to continue with ESR version then
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron will stay on 10.0 (not sure how we can have newer versions of
+</I>&gt;<i> beta if they depend on the same packages).
+</I>&gt;<i> And it's also true that we will lose some users if they don't want to
+</I>&gt;<i> use tarball version and will pick distro that can keep browsers
+</I>&gt;<i> up-to-date. Sad, but true.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> (Funda, can you please stop top-posting. This is rude man!)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>
+possibly if someone has time, they could try to maintain/backport the non-ESR 
+branch...
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+but imho, if people want the latest, they don't wait for packagers to 
+finish+test it in one week, the get upstream version...
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+<PRE>Op maandag 06 februari 2012 05:59:41 schreef Talus Portugal:
+&gt;<i> I started and never looked
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="backhttp://www.aktifcare.com.tr/work-at-home.php?ebaolID=25pao">backhttp://www.aktifcare.com.tr/work-at-home.php?ebaolID=25pao</A>
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+is this a hacked email account that was registered? or did this accidentally 
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 21:41, Maarten Vanraes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Op maandag 06 februari 2012 05:59:41 schreef Talus Portugal:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I started and never looked
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="backhttp://www.aktifcare.com.tr/work-at-home.php?ebaolID=25pao">backhttp://www.aktifcare.com.tr/work-at-home.php?ebaolID=25pao</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> is this a hacked email account that was registered? or did this accidentally
+</I>&gt;<i> go through?
+</I>
+There is no need to &quot;hack&quot; an email account to use an address as From.
+This email was sent with the From field containing an email address
+which is subscribed to the list so it would be accepted even if anyone
+else had sent it.
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+In this case it was sent by Yahoo, so yes it seems this account was compromised.
+The email was sent from 203.87.162.2, in Philippines
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+    <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> 
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+<PRE>On Monday 06 February 2012 23:24, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+&gt;<i> There is no need to &quot;hack&quot; an email account to use an address as From.
+</I>&gt;<i> This email was sent with the From field containing an email address
+</I>&gt;<i> which is subscribed to the list so it would be accepted even if anyone
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+Which is why I have always signed my emails for the last 12 years, or so.
+If it ain't signed or the signature fail validation, I didn't send it. :-)=
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+<PRE>Le 2012-02-06 13:57, andre999 a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Maurice Batey a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, 05 Feb 2012 21:50:27 -0500, Michel Catudal wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On my son's computer I installed it on the MBR.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    I couldn't figure out how to do that. It seemed to me that it had to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have a FAT32 partition, and that one would need to be running Windows
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to run the .exe file...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
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+You can have it either on a fat16, fat32 partition or the MBR.
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You could create a USB freedos installation.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    I want the boot manage in  the MBR, not on a USB device.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>You didn't understand what I said. The USB device is the boot device if you don't have a floppy drive.
+That is only use to install or reinstall xosl after it's been wacked by Linux or other OS.
+With xosl and I would assume most modern bootloader you can create a backup of the MBR on your recue boot diskette or USB device.
+
+The xosl install that I have runs off a floppy diskette which has been formatted to PC DOS. You should be able to find dos bootable image on the net.
+xosl has a nice graphic install.
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+    <I>Tue Feb  7 03:23:40 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hello!
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+We are just only one month before the version freeze and two weeks 
+before planned release of Beta 1.
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+What was planned
+- to switch in Mageia packages from Aspell and Myspell to Hunspell
+- to support in Enchant only Hunspell and Voikko (the Finnish spell-checker)
+- permanently remove Myspell from Mga2
+- keep Aspell and Aspell dictionaries as a fall-back for old or software 
+(or already not ported)
+- remove Ispell remnants
+* prepare policy for a Hunspell dictionary
+
+What was faced
+- lack of policy
+- Mozilla software (Firefox, Thunderbird, ...) is using Myspell
+- packages: alpine, kadu-module-spellchecker, kdelibs4-core, scribus, 
+weechat-aspell, xedit, xfig, gedit, psi, claws-mail, eclipse-texlipse, 
+mutt and some perl and php packages were affected
+- 120 Hunspell dictionaries needed to be rewritten
+- 76 Aspell dictionaries needed to stop providing a virtual package 
+&quot;enchant-dictionary&quot;
+- Some Myspell packages provide hyphenation and thesaurus - and it has 
+to be fully replaced by mythes and hyphen dictionaries
+
+What was done
+- policy is written <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Hunspell-dictionary_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Hunspell-dictionary_policy</A>
+* it is following Mageia rpm guidelines and spec policies,
+* we follow and base on the Fedora packages (mainly versions and 
+sources) and therefore it's much easier to maintain
+- these packages already switched to Enchant or Hunspell
+* alpine, kadu-module-spellchecker, kdelibs4-core,  weechat-aspell, 
+xfig, gedit, psi, claws-mail, eclipse-texlipse
+(scribus is facing this request upstream, mutt and xedit still need a 
+closer look)
+* Ispell Perl package was marked as obsoleted and to be deleted
+- c. 3/4 Hunspell dictionaries are already transformed
+- c. 1/3 Aspell dictionaries are already cleaned
+
+To-do now (or before the local freeze for Beta 1)
+- transform the rest of Hunspell dictionaries
+- clean Aspell dictionaries
+- final cleanning of Mozilla applications
+* remove myspell definitely from Mga2
+*ETA 2012-02-14*
+
+To-do before the release freeze
+- clean mythes, thesaurus (and autocorr) packages
+- review transformed dictionaries
+- try to switch to Enchant/Hunspell in two Perl modules and review php ones
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+    <B>Julien</B> 
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+<PRE>Le Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:04:05 +0100,
+Florian Hubold &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> Am 12.01.2012 16:55, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Am 07.01.2012 18:36, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Am 16.04.2011 16:05, schrieb Christiaan Welvaart:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Tux99 wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>(...)
+&gt;<i> Pinging again, because nobody replied. This should also be discussed
+</I>&gt;<i> at next packager meeting, together with the situation according the
+</I>&gt;<i> branding of other mozilla packages. Because we have branding enabled,
+</I>&gt;<i> which we shouldn't have as we can't use branding AND have modified builds
+</I>&gt;<i> (different than upstream tarball)
+</I>&gt;<i> without approval of all modifications from mozilla.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> For reference, here's the upstream report i was talking about, which i've
+</I>&gt;<i> recently found again:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555935">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555935</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> resending because of maintainer mail adress typo
+</I>
+FTR, the Mozilla trademark policy :
+<A HREF="https://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html">https://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html</A>
+
+the relevant part :
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+&quot;	Modifications
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+If you're taking full advantage of the open-source nature of Mozilla's
+products and making significant functional changes, you may not
+redistribute the fruits of your labor under any Mozilla trademark, without
+Mozilla's prior written consent. For example, if the product you've
+modified is Firefox, you may not use Mozilla or Firefox, in whole or in
+part, in its name. Also, it would be inappropriate for you to say &quot;based on
+Mozilla Firefox&quot;. Instead, in the interest of complete accuracy, you could
+describe your executables as &quot;based on Mozilla technology&quot;, or
+&quot;incorporating Mozilla source code.&quot; In addition, you may want to read the
+discussion on the &quot;Powered by Mozilla&quot; logo.
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+In addition, if you compile a modified version, as discussed above, with
+branding enabled (the default in our source code is branding disabled), you
+will require Mozilla's prior written permission. If it's not the unmodified
+installer package from www.mozilla.com, and you want to use our
+trademark(s), our review and approval of your modifications is required.
+You also must change the name of the executable so as to reduce the chance
+that a user of the modified software will be misled into believing it to be
+a native Mozilla product.
+
+Again, any modification to the Mozilla product, including adding to,
+modifying in any way, or deleting content from the files included with an
+installer, file location changes, added code, modification of any source
+files including additions and deletions, etc., will require our permission
+if you want to use the Mozilla Marks. If you have any doubt, just ask us at
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">trademarks at mozilla.com.</A>
+&quot;
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+regards
+Julien
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+<PRE>Op maandag 06 februari 2012 23:24:45 schreef Pascal Terjan:
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+&gt;<i> There is no need to &quot;hack&quot; an email account to use an address as From.
+</I>&gt;<i> This email was sent with the From field containing an email address
+</I>&gt;<i> which is subscribed to the list so it would be accepted even if anyone
+</I>&gt;<i> else had sent it.
+</I>
+but, isn't the envelope-from address used? i didn't see it in the email 
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> In this case it was sent by Yahoo, so yes it seems this account was compromised.
+</I>&gt;<i> The email was sent from 203.87.162.2, in Philippines
+</I>
+Exactly the same happens on the GNOME mailing lists. I usually ban the
+people straight away. From my experience, even if you advise that
+they're sending spam, the spam actually never stops (tried the friendly
+approach initially).
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+I sometimes get similar compromised spam from people I know. Spam is
+sent to pretty much everyone who ever emailed the compromised account.
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+Regards,
+Olav
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+    <B>Christian Lohmaier</B> 
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+<PRE>Hi *-
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+On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We are just only one month before the version freeze and two weeks before
+</I>&gt;<i> planned release of Beta 1.
+</I>
+Not related to dictionaries/spell-checking engines, but isn't it still
+too early for beta, given that there still are no live isos of alpha3.
+The initial announcement mentioned a delay of about one week, but till
+today no sign of alpha3 live isos.
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+ciao
+Christian
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+<PRE>When I plug in an 8G USB (fat32) thumbdrive - I get the following
+errors:
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+Feb  7 11:58:34 localhost kernel: usb 3-1: new low-speed USB device
+number 7 using uhci_hcd
+Feb  7 11:58:34 localhost kernel: usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64,
+error -71
+Feb  7 11:58:34 localhost kernel: usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64,
+error -71
+Feb  7 11:58:34 localhost kernel: usb 3-1: new low-speed USB device
+number 8 using uhci_hcd
+Feb  7 11:58:34 localhost kernel: usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64,
+error -71
+Feb  7 11:58:35 localhost kernel: usb 3-1: device descriptor read/64,
+error -71
+Feb  7 11:58:35 localhost kernel: usb 3-1: new low-speed USB device
+number 9 using uhci_hcd
+Feb  7 11:58:35 localhost kernel: usb 3-1: device not accepting address
+9, error -71
+Feb  7 11:58:35 localhost kernel: usb 3-1: new low-speed USB device
+number 10 using uhci_hcd
+Feb  7 11:58:36 localhost kernel: usb 3-1: device not accepting address
+10, error -71
+Feb  7 11:58:36 localhost kernel: hub 3-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB
+device on port 1
+
+Although on other machines it works fine (both Mageia before the updates
+&amp; Windows)
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+What could this be?
+
+Thx,
+R.Fox
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+    <B>Maurice Batey</B> 
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+</I>
+  I know! :-(
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+&gt;<i> The xosl install that I have runs off a floppy diskette which has been
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+</I>&gt;<i> net. xosl has a nice graphic install.
+</I>
+  Do you have a step-by-step description of how to create such floppy, please?
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+   Write a disk image to the floppy?
+   Presumably not simply --&gt; FAT32, as the disk will be booted.
+   What files need to be found and put on the floppy? Where from?)
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/2/7 Christian Lohmaier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lohmaier+mageia at googlemail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hi *-
+</I>
+Hi there
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 3:23 AM, Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We are just only one month before the version freeze and two weeks before
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> planned release of Beta 1.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Not related to dictionaries/spell-checking engines, but isn't it still
+</I>&gt;<i> too early for beta, given that there still are no live isos of alpha3.
+</I>&gt;<i> The initial announcement mentioned a delay of about one week, but till
+</I>&gt;<i> today no sign of alpha3 live isos.
+</I>
+It took much more time than expected and we should provide live cds
+for beta1 version in 2 weeks
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ciao
+</I>&gt;<i> Christian
+</I>
+
+
+-- 
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+&gt;<i> Feb &#160;7 11:58:35 localhost kernel: usb 3-1: new low-speed USB device
+</I>&gt;<i> number 9 using uhci_hcd
+</I>&gt;<i> Feb &#160;7 11:58:35 localhost kernel: usb 3-1: device not accepting address
+</I>&gt;<i> 9, error -71
+</I>&gt;<i> Feb &#160;7 11:58:35 localhost kernel: usb 3-1: new low-speed USB device
+</I>&gt;<i> number 10 using uhci_hcd
+</I>&gt;<i> Feb &#160;7 11:58:36 localhost kernel: usb 3-1: device not accepting address
+</I>&gt;<i> 10, error -71
+</I>&gt;<i> Feb &#160;7 11:58:36 localhost kernel: hub 3-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB
+</I>&gt;<i> device on port 1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Although on other machines it works fine (both Mageia before the updates
+</I>&gt;<i> &amp; Windows)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What could this be?
+</I>
+This happens sometimes.
+For years. So it's not related to any update.
+Changing USB port or rebooting usually help
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+    <I>Tue Feb  7 14:42:22 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>I've just whipped up
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packages_carrying_bundled_copies_of_system_libraries">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packages_carrying_bundled_copies_of_system_libraries</A>
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+It's purpose is listing and maybe documenting the reasons why
+some packages carry bundled copies of system libraries. I've begun
+with ffmpeg, as it has a rather bad record for security updates on
+Mageia 1 IMHO, as some security updates would almost have been
+missed, some were delayed for a long time, and some wouldn't
+have been noticed unless by accident.
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+Please, every packager participate, and list the packages you know about.
+Another good example would be xulrunner.
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+PS: Maybe it should also be used to documented the packages which
+require some static linking, and the reasons, if there are any of these.
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+<PRE>Florian Hubold wrote:
+&gt;<i> I've just whipped up
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packages_carrying_bundled_copies_of_system_libraries">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packages_carrying_bundled_copies_of_system_libraries</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It's purpose is listing and maybe documenting the reasons why
+</I>&gt;<i> some packages carry bundled copies of system libraries. I've begun
+</I>&gt;<i> with ffmpeg, as it has a rather bad record for security updates on
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1 IMHO, as some security updates would almost have been
+</I>&gt;<i> missed, some were delayed for a long time, and some wouldn't
+</I>&gt;<i> have been noticed unless by accident.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Please, every packager participate, and list the packages you know about.
+</I>&gt;<i> Another good example would be xulrunner.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: Maybe it should also be used to documented the packages which
+</I>&gt;<i> require some static linking, and the reasons, if there are any of these.
+</I>
+Thanks Florian.
+
+Another thing that would be helpful related to this would be to have an install of rq in the Mageia infrastructure:
+<A HREF="https://fedorahosted.org/rq/">https://fedorahosted.org/rq/</A>
+
+It can be used to see when some code is affected by a security vulnerability if any other packages contain the same code.
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Another thing that would be helpful related to this would be to have an install of rq in the Mageia infrastructure:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://fedorahosted.org/rq/">https://fedorahosted.org/rq/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It can be used to see when some code is affected by a security vulnerability if any other packages contain the same code.
+</I>I guess you can use Sophie (<A HREF="http://sophie.zarb.org">http://sophie.zarb.org</A>) for this kind of 
+queries.
+
+-- 
+BOFH excuse #207:
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+We are currently trying a new concept of using a live mouse. 
+Unfortunately, one has yet to survive being hooked up to the 
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le 07/02/2012 17:19, David Walser a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Another thing that would be helpful related to this would be to have an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> install of rq in the Mageia infrastructure:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://fedorahosted.org/rq/">https://fedorahosted.org/rq/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It can be used to see when some code is affected by a security
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> vulnerability if any other packages contain the same code.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess you can use Sophie (<A HREF="http://sophie.zarb.org">http://sophie.zarb.org</A>) for this kind of
+</I>&gt;<i> queries.
+</I>
+It has some more informations (symbols available in binaries, and
+source file names in the source tarballs, to find bundled copies of
+the vulnerable code)
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+&gt;<i> trem &lt;trem&gt; 1.1.0-0.r67715.1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 205979
+</I>&gt;<i> - update to release 67715
+</I>&gt;<i> - update to release 67703
+</I>&gt;<i> - update to release 67702
+</I>&gt;<i> - update to release 67698
+</I>&gt;<i> - update to release 67688
+</I>&gt;<i> - update to release 67680
+</I>
+Do we really get to package every SVN revision?
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+    <B>Thomas Lottmann</B> 
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+    <I>Tue Feb  7 20:02:40 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hello everyone,
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+I am just asking for a little help, as I cannot compile LLVM/Cland 3.0 
+under Mageia 1. And I just cannot figure out why I get the error I 
+described in the following bug report.
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+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4179">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4179</A>
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+I do need this compiler and think it can be useful for programmers.
+
+I thank you by advance for your help.
+
+Thomas Lottmann aka Skiper.
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+<PRE>Op dinsdag 07 februari 2012 14:42:22 schreef Florian Hubold:
+&gt;<i> I've just whipped up
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packages_carrying_bundled_copies_of_system_libra">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packages_carrying_bundled_copies_of_system_libra</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> ries
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It's purpose is listing and maybe documenting the reasons why
+</I>&gt;<i> some packages carry bundled copies of system libraries. I've begun
+</I>&gt;<i> with ffmpeg, as it has a rather bad record for security updates on
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1 IMHO, as some security updates would almost have been
+</I>&gt;<i> missed, some were delayed for a long time, and some wouldn't
+</I>&gt;<i> have been noticed unless by accident.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Please, every packager participate, and list the packages you know about.
+</I>&gt;<i> Another good example would be xulrunner.
+</I>
+i added the internal readline  v5 for GPLv2 reasons
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 7 February 2012 20:02, Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">skipercooker at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello everyone,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I am just asking for a little help, as I cannot compile LLVM/Cland 3.0 under
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1. And I just cannot figure out why I get the error I described in
+</I>&gt;<i> the following bug report.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4179">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4179</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I do need this compiler and think it can be useful for programmers.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I thank you by advance for your help.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas Lottmann aka Skiper.
+</I>
+bugzilla is about Mageia bugs, not about your own compilation issues.
+So I closed this BR.
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+    <B>Dan Fandrich</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Cannot%20compile%20LLVM/Clang%20under%20Mageia%201&In-Reply-To=%3C20120207215851.GA14836%40coneharvesters.com%3E"
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+    <I>Tue Feb  7 22:58:51 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 10:43:31PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 7 February 2012 20:02, Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">skipercooker at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4179">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4179</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I do need this compiler and think it can be useful for programmers.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I thank you by advance for your help.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thomas Lottmann aka Skiper.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> bugzilla is about Mageia bugs, not about your own compilation issues.
+</I>&gt;<i> So I closed this BR.
+</I>
+The bug report was an RPM package request. The compile problem is really
+a side issue (although still relevant to whoever takes on the bug report
+eventually and packages clang). The bug report should be reopened unless
+it's deemed that clang is not to be packaged in Mageia at this time.
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dan
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+    <I>Tue Feb  7 23:43:42 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Am 07.02.2012 22:58, schrieb Dan Fandrich:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 07, 2012 at 10:43:31PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 7 February 2012 20:02, Thomas Lottmann &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">skipercooker at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4179">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4179</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I do need this compiler and think it can be useful for programmers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I thank you by advance for your help.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Lottmann aka Skiper.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bugzilla is about Mageia bugs, not about your own compilation issues.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So I closed this BR.
+</I>&gt;<i> The bug report was an RPM package request. The compile problem is really
+</I>&gt;<i> a side issue (although still relevant to whoever takes on the bug report
+</I>&gt;<i> eventually and packages clang). The bug report should be reopened unless
+</I>&gt;<i> it's deemed that clang is not to be packaged in Mageia at this time.
+</I>Also it could be interesting why the error message displays:
+
+Consultez &lt;<A HREF="http://bugs.mageia.org/">http://bugs.mageia.org/</A>&gt; pour plus de d&#233;tail.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dan
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 7 February 2012 22:58, Dan Fandrich &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dan at coneharvesters.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I do need this compiler and think it can be useful for programmers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I thank you by advance for your help.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Thomas Lottmann aka Skiper.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bugzilla is about Mageia bugs, not about your own compilation issues.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So I closed this BR.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The bug report was an RPM package request. The compile problem is really
+</I>&gt;<i> a side issue (although still relevant to whoever takes on the bug report
+</I>&gt;<i> eventually and packages clang). The bug report should be reopened unless
+</I>&gt;<i> it's deemed that clang is not to be packaged in Mageia at this time.
+</I>
+The package already exist so it cannot be a new package request.
+It's just older in mga1 (but up to date in mga2)
+
+The new LLVM release needs updating dependencies.
+If one wants the newer LLVM, he should switch to cauldron or wait for mga2.
+We won't update the build chain in mga1.
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+<PRE>Julien a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:04:05 +0100,
+</I>&gt;<i> Florian Hubold&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt;  a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 12.01.2012 16:55, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 07.01.2012 18:36, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>        
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 16.04.2011 16:05, schrieb Christiaan Welvaart:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>          
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Tux99 wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>            
+</I>&gt;<i> (...)
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Pinging again, because nobody replied. This should also be discussed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> at next packager meeting, together with the situation according the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> branding of other mozilla packages. Because we have branding enabled,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> which we shouldn't have as we can't use branding AND have modified builds
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (different than upstream tarball)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> without approval of all modifications from mozilla.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For reference, here's the upstream report i was talking about, which i've
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> recently found again:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555935">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555935</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> resending because of maintainer mail adress typo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;<i> FTR, the Mozilla trademark policy :
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html">https://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> the relevant part :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;	Modifications
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If you're taking full advantage of the open-source nature of Mozilla's
+</I>&gt;<i> products and making significant functional changes, you may not
+</I>&gt;<i> redistribute the fruits of your labor under any Mozilla trademark, without
+</I>&gt;<i> Mozilla's prior written consent. For example, if the product you've
+</I>&gt;<i> modified is Firefox, you may not use Mozilla or Firefox, in whole or in
+</I>&gt;<i> part, in its name. Also, it would be inappropriate for you to say &quot;based on
+</I>&gt;<i> Mozilla Firefox&quot;. Instead, in the interest of complete accuracy, you could
+</I>&gt;<i> describe your executables as &quot;based on Mozilla technology&quot;, or
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;incorporating Mozilla source code.&quot; In addition, you may want to read the
+</I>&gt;<i> discussion on the &quot;Powered by Mozilla&quot; logo.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In addition, if you compile a modified version, as discussed above, with
+</I>&gt;<i> branding enabled (the default in our source code is branding disabled), you
+</I>&gt;<i> will require Mozilla's prior written permission. If it's not the unmodified
+</I>&gt;<i> installer package from www.mozilla.com, and you want to use our
+</I>&gt;<i> trademark(s), our review and approval of your modifications is required.
+</I>&gt;<i> You also must change the name of the executable so as to reduce the chance
+</I>&gt;<i> that a user of the modified software will be misled into believing it to be
+</I>&gt;<i> a native Mozilla product.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Again, any modification to the Mozilla product, including adding to,
+</I>&gt;<i> modifying in any way, or deleting content from the files included with an
+</I>&gt;<i> installer, file location changes, added code, modification of any source
+</I>&gt;<i> files including additions and deletions, etc., will require our permission
+</I>&gt;<i> if you want to use the Mozilla Marks. If you have any doubt, just ask us at
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">trademarks at mozilla.com.</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> regards
+</I>&gt;<i> Julien
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>The key words seem to be &quot;significant functional changes&quot;.
+If we use the Mozilla tarball, and just apply Mozilla patches, we 
+shouldn't require any special permission for that.
+They do say that additionally we would require written permission to 
+compile the source with branding enabled.
+Since the source tarball can be installed wherever the user wants, only 
+changing the relative locations would potentially be problematic.
+
+In any case, I'm in favour of packaging all of 
+Firefox/Thunderbird/Seamonkey, essentially unmodified, and in the 
+extended support versions where available.
+(Not trying to say that we shouldn't package filerunner separately.  Or 
+add security patches not yet added by Mozilla.  Both of which would 
+require approval from Mozilla.)
+
+The suggested -ESR suffix for extended support releases seems a good idea.
+Alternately, we could tag them with the version, but that would be less 
+evident.
+
+-- 
+Andr&#233;
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+<PRE>On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 12:00 AM, Juan Luis Baptiste &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">juancho at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Sorry for the late reply, I went into vacations just after this...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:13 AM, Balcaen John &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mikala at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Friday 20 January 2012 10:39:18 Juan Luis Baptiste wrote :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> g++: error:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ../libsrcs/angelscript/angelSVN/sdk/angelscript/lib/libangelscript.a: No such
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> file or directory
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> make: *** [release/libs/angelwrap_x86_64.so] Error 1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The error seems to be here.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not sure that's the error as I have seen it too with my local
+</I>&gt;<i> build and still builds fine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any other ideas ? I'm stuck with this.. :S
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I did a clean mga2 alpha3 install, updated it to cauldron, and just
+installed mgarepo, bm and warsow's spec BR and again it builds fine.
+
+arrgghhh I don't know why it fails on the BS !! the only thing I
+noticed comparing the build logs from the local build against the BS
+build is that stuff is built in a different order, also the linking,
+but I really don't have a clue of what's going on :(
+
+
+Can someone please please pretty please take a look ? here are the logs:
+
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201173847.juancho.valstar.7315/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201173847.juancho.valstar.7315/</A>
+
+
+Thanks in advance.
+
+-- 
+Juancho
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+<PRE>Kamil Rytarowski a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On 06.02.2012 22:15, Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 06.02.2012 21:43, schrieb Kamil Rytarowski:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In my opinion we can drop that package, and in its place have 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Firefox-ESR,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> next to standard Firefox.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How are we supposed to drop seamonkey/iceape from a released distro?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> BTW: Do you use seamonkey/iceape, and know how it is different from a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> standalone browser like firefox?
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm thinking about Mageia 2 right now. It seems there is a maintainer 
+</I>&gt;<i> lacking for many months.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, I know. It's different from Friefox and Thunderbird, but in my 
+</I>&gt;<i> opinion for a standard user it's replaceable by ff and tb.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Seamonkey = firefox + composer + thunderbird + chatzilla
+I find it convenient to have them all installed together, and running 
+firefox + thunderbird at the same time takes more memory than seamonkey 
+with the navigator and email agent open.  (Unless that has changed.)
+There is also the plus of adding new navigator features to seamonkey 
+after they have been tested on firefox, so there are somewhat fewer bugs.
+Now I'm using upstream Seamonkey, but it would be nice to have an 
+up-to-date version in Mageia.
+(When I have more time, I might be interested in maintaining it myself.)
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+&gt;<i> Op maandag 06 februari 2012 08:50:21 schreef Sander Lepik:
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 06.02.2012 09:38, Funda Wang kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And, don't forget, we still have a package named firefox-beta. If we
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> stick with FF10, then some day we will come to a situation of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> firefox-10.0.4 and firefox-beta-15b1 for Mageia 2, which is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> unacceptable. Or, we should make an exception on firefox-beta, it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should be obsoleted by updated firefox for stable distros.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>        
+</I>
+The long-term support versions just obsolete lower-numbered 
+non-long-term-support versions.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed, firefox-beta must be obsoleted on stable release like chrome's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> similar versions are as we don't have maintaner who wants to keep them
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> up-to-date on stable releases.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I agree with D.Morgan that if we want to continue with ESR version then
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cauldron will stay on 10.0 (not sure how we can have newer versions of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> beta if they depend on the same packages).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And it's also true that we will lose some users if they don't want to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> use tarball version and will pick distro that can keep browsers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> up-to-date. Sad, but true.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (Funda, can you please stop top-posting. This is rude man!)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;<i> possibly if someone has time, they could try to maintain/backport the non-ESR
+</I>&gt;<i> branch...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> but imho, if people want the latest, they don't wait for packagers to
+</I>&gt;<i> finish+test it in one week, the get upstream version...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so the other persons are fine with ESR versions... imho
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>+1
+I doubt that we will lose any (or many) users interested in the latest 
+version, as all distros will be faced with this time lag relative to 
+upstream.
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+I've got problem with obsoleting some myspell packages.
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+$ rpm -qa|grep csb
+myspell-csb_CSB-1.0.2-30.mga1
+hunspell-csb-0.20050311.1-7.mga2
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+$ urpmq --provides myspell-csb_CSB
+myspell-pl[== 1.0.2-30.mga1]
+myspell-dictionary[== 1.0.2-30.mga1]
+enchant-dictionary[== 2]
+myspell-csb_CSB[== 1.0.2-30.mga1]
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+$ urpmq --provides hunspell-csb
+enchant-dictionary[== 2]
+hunspell-dictionary
+hunspell-csb_PL[== 0.20050311.1-7.mga2]
+dictionary-csb[== 2]
+dictionary-csb_PL[== 2]
+myspell-csb
+myspell-csb_CSB
+hunspell-csb[== 0.20050311.1-7.mga2]
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+$ urpmq --obsoletes hunspell-csb
+myspell-csb[&lt;= 1.0.2-30]
+myspell-csb_CSB[&lt;= 1.0.2-30]
+
+The obsoleting is working when I'm adding ending &quot;.mga1.noarch&quot;. Where 
+is the problem? Am I doing something wrong?
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+&gt;<i> I did a clean mga2 alpha3 install, updated it to cauldron, and just
+</I>&gt;<i> installed mgarepo, bm and warsow's spec BR and again it builds fine.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> arrgghhh I don't know why it fails on the BS !! the only thing I
+</I>&gt;<i> noticed comparing the build logs from the local build against the BS
+</I>&gt;<i> build is that stuff is built in a different order, also the linking,
+</I>&gt;<i> but I really don't have a clue of what's going on :(
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Can someone please please pretty please take a look ? here are the logs:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201173847.juancho.valstar.7315/">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120201173847.juancho.valstar.7315/</A>
+</I>
+It's very likely a missing dependency in the make files. The build
+server uses the make -j24 flag, so it's going to build the various
+modules in a very different order than without that flag. Ideally, you
+would find the missing dependecy and patch the make files, but you could
+also just remove the -j24 and have make build it sequentially instead
+(at up to 24 times slower, of course).
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Dan
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+    <B>D.Morgan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've got problem with obsoleting some myspell packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ rpm -qa|grep csb
+</I>&gt;<i> myspell-csb_CSB-1.0.2-30.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> hunspell-csb-0.20050311.1-7.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ urpmq --provides myspell-csb_CSB
+</I>&gt;<i> myspell-pl[== 1.0.2-30.mga1]
+</I>&gt;<i> myspell-dictionary[== 1.0.2-30.mga1]
+</I>&gt;<i> enchant-dictionary[== 2]
+</I>&gt;<i> myspell-csb_CSB[== 1.0.2-30.mga1]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ urpmq --provides hunspell-csb
+</I>&gt;<i> enchant-dictionary[== 2]
+</I>&gt;<i> hunspell-dictionary
+</I>&gt;<i> hunspell-csb_PL[== 0.20050311.1-7.mga2]
+</I>&gt;<i> dictionary-csb[== 2]
+</I>&gt;<i> dictionary-csb_PL[== 2]
+</I>&gt;<i> myspell-csb
+</I>&gt;<i> myspell-csb_CSB
+</I>&gt;<i> hunspell-csb[== 0.20050311.1-7.mga2]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ urpmq --obsoletes hunspell-csb
+</I>&gt;<i> myspell-csb[&lt;= 1.0.2-30]
+</I>&gt;<i> myspell-csb_CSB[&lt;= 1.0.2-30]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The obsoleting is working when I'm adding ending &quot;.mga1.noarch&quot;. Where is
+</I>&gt;<i> the problem? Am I doing something wrong?
+</I>
+I commited a fix on svn that works on my machine, i tested:
+
+-&gt; Previous rpm didn't removed myspell
+-&gt; New one replace it by hunspell
+
+Btw myspell-csb_CSB installed locale-pl but  hunspell-csb didn't. Is
+it intended ?
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+<PRE>Am 08.02.2012 04:59, schrieb andre999:
+&gt;<i> Julien a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le Mon, 06 Feb 2012 21:04:05 +0100,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Florian Hubold&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt;  a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 12.01.2012 16:55, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>     
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 07.01.2012 18:36, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>       
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Am 16.04.2011 16:05, schrieb Christiaan Welvaart:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>         
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Tux99 wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>            
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (...)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Pinging again, because nobody replied. This should also be discussed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> at next packager meeting, together with the situation according the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> branding of other mozilla packages. Because we have branding enabled,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> which we shouldn't have as we can't use branding AND have modified builds
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (different than upstream tarball)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> without approval of all modifications from mozilla.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For reference, here's the upstream report i was talking about, which i've
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> recently found again:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555935">https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555935</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -- 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> resending because of maintainer mail adress typo
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> FTR, the Mozilla trademark policy :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html">https://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the relevant part :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;    Modifications
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you're taking full advantage of the open-source nature of Mozilla's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> products and making significant functional changes, you may not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> redistribute the fruits of your labor under any Mozilla trademark, without
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mozilla's prior written consent. For example, if the product you've
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> modified is Firefox, you may not use Mozilla or Firefox, in whole or in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> part, in its name. Also, it would be inappropriate for you to say &quot;based on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mozilla Firefox&quot;. Instead, in the interest of complete accuracy, you could
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> describe your executables as &quot;based on Mozilla technology&quot;, or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;incorporating Mozilla source code.&quot; In addition, you may want to read the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> discussion on the &quot;Powered by Mozilla&quot; logo.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In addition, if you compile a modified version, as discussed above, with
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> branding enabled (the default in our source code is branding disabled), you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> will require Mozilla's prior written permission. If it's not the unmodified
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installer package from www.mozilla.com, and you want to use our
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> trademark(s), our review and approval of your modifications is required.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You also must change the name of the executable so as to reduce the chance
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that a user of the modified software will be misled into believing it to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a native Mozilla product.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Again, any modification to the Mozilla product, including adding to,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> modifying in any way, or deleting content from the files included with an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installer, file location changes, added code, modification of any source
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> files including additions and deletions, etc., will require our permission
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if you want to use the Mozilla Marks. If you have any doubt, just ask us at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">trademarks at mozilla.com.</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> regards
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Julien
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    
+</I>&gt;<i> The key words seem to be &quot;significant functional changes&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> If we use the Mozilla tarball, and just apply Mozilla patches, we shouldn't
+</I>&gt;<i> require any special permission for that.
+</I>&gt;<i> They do say that additionally we would require written permission to compile
+</I>&gt;<i> the source with branding enabled.
+</I>&gt;<i> Since the source tarball can be installed wherever the user wants, only
+</I>&gt;<i> changing the relative locations would potentially be problematic.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In any case, I'm in favour of packaging all of Firefox/Thunderbird/Seamonkey,
+</I>&gt;<i> essentially unmodified, and in the extended support versions where available.
+</I>&gt;<i> (Not trying to say that we shouldn't package filerunner separately.  Or add
+</I>&gt;<i> security patches not yet added by Mozilla.  Both of which would require
+</I>&gt;<i> approval from Mozilla.)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The suggested -ESR suffix for extended support releases seems a good idea.
+</I>&gt;<i> Alternately, we could tag them with the version, but that would be less evident.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Please get your facts straight, most patches we apply are not mozilla patches,
+and we do significant modifications. And please don't compare this to installing
+the mozilla tarball, this just doesn't fly.
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+<PRE>On 08.02.2012 07:31, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I've got problem with obsoleting some myspell packages.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> $ rpm -qa|grep csb
+</I>&gt;<i> myspell-csb_CSB-1.0.2-30.mga1
+</I>&gt;<i> hunspell-csb-0.20050311.1-7.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> $ urpmq --provides myspell-csb_CSB
+</I>&gt;<i> myspell-pl[== 1.0.2-30.mga1]
+</I>&gt;<i> myspell-dictionary[== 1.0.2-30.mga1]
+</I>&gt;<i> enchant-dictionary[== 2]
+</I>&gt;<i> myspell-csb_CSB[== 1.0.2-30.mga1]
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> $ urpmq --provides hunspell-csb
+</I>&gt;<i> enchant-dictionary[== 2]
+</I>&gt;<i> hunspell-dictionary
+</I>&gt;<i> hunspell-csb_PL[== 0.20050311.1-7.mga2]
+</I>&gt;<i> dictionary-csb[== 2]
+</I>&gt;<i> dictionary-csb_PL[== 2]
+</I>&gt;<i> myspell-csb
+</I>&gt;<i> myspell-csb_CSB
+</I>&gt;<i> hunspell-csb[== 0.20050311.1-7.mga2]
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> $ urpmq --obsoletes hunspell-csb
+</I>&gt;<i> myspell-csb[&lt;= 1.0.2-30]
+</I>&gt;<i> myspell-csb_CSB[&lt;= 1.0.2-30]
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The obsoleting is working when I'm adding ending &quot;.mga1.noarch&quot;. Where
+</I>&gt;<i> is the problem? Am I doing something wrong?
+</I>
+1.0.2-30.mga1 &gt; 1.0.2-30 so it doesn't match the obsoletes.
+Use
+Obsoletes: myspell-csb_CSB &lt; 1.0.2-31
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 8 February 2012 08:55, ovitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> ovitters &lt;ovitters&gt; 1:0.3-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 206374
+</I>&gt;<i> - bump major to 2
+</I>&gt;<i> - new version
+</I>
+The hard versioned require on libwacom defeats the purpose of libification.
+It should either not be versioned at all or used &quot;&gt;=&quot; instead of &quot;=&quot;
+
+The following packages have to be removed for others to be upgraded:
+gdm-3.2.1.1-3.mga2.x86_64
+ (due to missing gnome-settings-daemon)
+gnome-control-center-3.3.4.1-1.mga2.x86_64
+ (due to missing libwacom.so.0()(64bit),
+  due to unsatisfied gnome-settings-daemon &gt;= 2.21.5)
+gnome-panel-3.3.5-1.mga2.x86_64
+ (due to missing gnome-shell,
+  due to missing gnome-session)
+gnome-session-3.3.5-1.mga2.x86_64
+ (due to missing gnome-settings-daemon)
+gnome-settings-daemon-3.3.4-2.mga2.x86_64
+ (due to missing libwacom.so.0()(64bit))
+gnome-shell-3.3.4-1.mga2.x86_64
+ (due to missing gnome-settings-daemon,
+  due to missing gnome-session)
+gnome-tweak-tool-3.3.4-1.mga2.noarch
+ (due to missing gnome-shell)
+lib64wacom0-0.2-1.mga2.x86_64
+ (due to unsatisfied libwacom == 1:0.2-1.mga2)
+task-gnome-3.3.2-2.mga2.noarch
+ (due to missing task-gnome-minimal)
+task-gnome-minimal-3.3.2-2.mga2.noarch
+ (due to unsatisfied gnome-control-center &gt;= 3.1.0,
+  due to missing gnome-tweak-tool,
+  due to unsatisfied gnome-panel &gt;= 3.1.0)
+xfswitch-plugin-0.0.1-9.mga2.x86_64
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+<PRE>On 08.02.2012 09:09, D.Morgan wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 6:31 AM, Kamil Rytarowski&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've got problem with obsoleting some myspell packages.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> $ rpm -qa|grep csb
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> myspell-csb_CSB-1.0.2-30.mga1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hunspell-csb-0.20050311.1-7.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> $ urpmq --provides myspell-csb_CSB
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> myspell-pl[== 1.0.2-30.mga1]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> myspell-dictionary[== 1.0.2-30.mga1]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> enchant-dictionary[== 2]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> myspell-csb_CSB[== 1.0.2-30.mga1]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> $ urpmq --provides hunspell-csb
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> enchant-dictionary[== 2]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hunspell-dictionary
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hunspell-csb_PL[== 0.20050311.1-7.mga2]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dictionary-csb[== 2]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dictionary-csb_PL[== 2]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> myspell-csb
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> myspell-csb_CSB
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hunspell-csb[== 0.20050311.1-7.mga2]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> $ urpmq --obsoletes hunspell-csb
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> myspell-csb[&lt;= 1.0.2-30]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> myspell-csb_CSB[&lt;= 1.0.2-30]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The obsoleting is working when I'm adding ending &quot;.mga1.noarch&quot;. Where is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the problem? Am I doing something wrong?
+</I>&gt;<i> I commited a fix on svn that works on my machine, i tested:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> -&gt;  Previous rpm didn't removed myspell
+</I>&gt;<i> -&gt;  New one replace it by hunspell
+</I>Than you, I will apply this change to the other packages.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Btw myspell-csb_CSB installed locale-pl but  hunspell-csb didn't. Is
+</I>&gt;<i> it intended ?
+</I>Yes, it is. Dictionaries are just simple text files, and there is 
+absolutely no need for locales.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Revision 1844 Author anssi Date 2011-08-07 00:34:01 +0200 (Sun, 07 Aug 2011)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
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+</I>&gt;<i> partition_table: align partitions to 1MB boundaries to avoid
+</I>&gt;<i> performance issues with drives with 4k physical sectors (mga#1215)
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+There's a small bug/regression due to this change: we often leave
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+At least for the gtk interface, we should try to use 1mb increments.
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+    <B>Maurice Batey</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Exactly that, formatted with PC Dos boot on it. I don't think that
+</I>&gt;<i>     you can buy PC Dos anymore.
+</I>
+  Many thanks for all the info, Michel, but it seems XOSL is not for me.
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+By the way, I had a problem reading your HTML posting, as my newsreader does
+not format HTML.
+   The odd thing is that your earlier postings were in plain text...
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+Regards,
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+</I>&gt;<i> It's very likely a missing dependency in the make files. The build
+</I>&gt;<i> server uses the make -j24 flag, so it's going to build the various
+</I>&gt;<i> modules in a very different order than without that flag. Ideally, you
+</I>&gt;<i> would find the missing dependecy and patch the make files, but you could
+</I>&gt;<i> also just remove the -j24 and have make build it sequentially instead
+</I>&gt;<i> (at up to 24 times slower, of course).
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+But how do I remove that tag ? you mean by not using the %make macro
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+&gt;<i> But how do I remove that tag ? you mean by not using the %make macro
+</I>&gt;<i> and call make directly instead ?
+</I>Exactly. This is often done for buggy makefiles.
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+&gt;<i> On 8 February 2012 08:55, ovitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ovitters &lt;ovitters&gt; 1:0.3-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; + Revision: 206374
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - bump major to 2
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - new version
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The hard versioned require on libwacom defeats the purpose of libification.
+</I>&gt;<i> It should either not be versioned at all or used &quot;&gt;=&quot; instead of &quot;=&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>  (due to unsatisfied gnome-control-center &gt;= 3.1.0,
+</I>&gt;<i>   due to missing gnome-tweak-tool,
+</I>&gt;<i>   due to unsatisfied gnome-panel &gt;= 3.1.0)
+</I>&gt;<i> xfswitch-plugin-0.0.1-9.mga2.x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i>  (due to missing gdm) (y/N)
+</I>
+Anything that can be done to make the upgrade easier?
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 8 f&#233;vrier 2012 18:44:32, Juan Luis Baptiste a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But how do I remove that tag ? you mean by not using the %make macro
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and call make directly instead ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Exactly. This is often done for buggy makefiles.
+</I>
+Ok, I'll push it again without %make and see what happenss...
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 8 f&#233;vrier 2012 18:44:32, Juan Luis Baptiste a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But how do I remove that tag ? you mean by not using the %make macro
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and call make directly instead ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Exactly. This is often done for buggy makefiles.
+</I>
+Fixing them is better :)
+At least reporting the bug upstream
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 18:16, zezinho &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lists.jjorge at free.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le mercredi 8 f&#233;vrier 2012 18:44:32, Juan Luis Baptiste a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But how do I remove that tag ? you mean by not using the %make macro
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and call make directly instead ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Exactly. This is often done for buggy makefiles.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Fixing them is better :)
+</I>&gt;<i> At least reporting the bug upstream
+</I>
+Of course, If I knew what the problem is :S
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+    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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+<PRE>Le mardi 07 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 14:42 +0100, Florian Hubold a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I've just whipped up
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packages_carrying_bundled_copies_of_system_libraries">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packages_carrying_bundled_copies_of_system_libraries</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It's purpose is listing and maybe documenting the reasons why
+</I>&gt;<i> some packages carry bundled copies of system libraries. I've begun
+</I>&gt;<i> with ffmpeg, as it has a rather bad record for security updates on
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia 1 IMHO, as some security updates would almost have been
+</I>&gt;<i> missed, some were delayed for a long time, and some wouldn't
+</I>&gt;<i> have been noticed unless by accident.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Please, every packager participate, and list the packages you know about.
+</I>&gt;<i> Another good example would be xulrunner.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> PS: Maybe it should also be used to documented the packages which
+</I>&gt;<i> require some static linking, and the reasons, if there are any of these.
+</I>
+While on it, would it be worth noting the attempt we had to solve the
+issue ( like punching dev in the face until they understand ) ?
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+Also, I guess we can add links to similar pages, if any, on other
+distribution would help. I found
+<A HREF="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_Libraries">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:No_Bundled_Libraries</A> 
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+and i know there is a page for debian to help use find potential bundled
+libraries, but i cannot find it.
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+Michael Scherer
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; ovitters &lt;ovitters&gt; 1:0.3-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; + Revision: 206374
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - bump major to 2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - new version
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The hard versioned require on libwacom defeats the purpose of libification.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It should either not be versioned at all or used &quot;&gt;=&quot; instead of &quot;=&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;(due to unsatisfied gnome-control-center &gt;= 3.1.0,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; due to missing gnome-tweak-tool,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; due to unsatisfied gnome-panel &gt;= 3.1.0)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> xfswitch-plugin-0.0.1-9.mga2.x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;(due to missing gdm) (y/N)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anything that can be done to make the upgrade easier?
+</I>
+For next major release of libwacom, I've prevented this to happen again.
+Now, we've to fix building of gnome-control-center &amp; gnome-settings-daemon
+with new libwacom:
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120208120826.tv.valstar.6208/log/gnome-control-center-3.3.4.1-2.mga2/build.0.20120208120903.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120208120826.tv.valstar.6208/log/gnome-control-center-3.3.4.1-2.mga2/build.0.20120208120903.log</A>
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+lib{,64}wacom0 with relaxed require on libwacom
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> For next major release of libwacom, I've prevented this to happen again.
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, we've to fix building of gnome-control-center &amp; gnome-settings-daemon
+</I>&gt;<i> with new libwacom:
+</I>
+There are new versions for those. I've submitted them.
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+However, some work needs to be done for splitting systemd daemons and
+making gcc/gsd (forgot which) depend on those daemons.
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 08:01:02PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For next major release of libwacom, I've prevented this to happen again.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Now, we've to fix building of gnome-control-center &amp; gnome-settings-daemon
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with new libwacom:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are new versions for those. I've submitted them.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, some work needs to be done for splitting systemd daemons and
+</I>&gt;<i> making gcc/gsd (forgot which) depend on those daemons.
+</I>If i'm not wrong coling said that it was a no-go for this.
+
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+-- 
+Balcaen John
+Jabber-id: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mikala at jabber.littleboboy.net</A>
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+I've made a small change in locales-pl, I have removed Kashubian from 
+it. Kashubian is a (cultural) language of minority and Polish people do 
+not need it. So therefore there is a new subpackage locales-csb with the 
+excluded files from locales-pl.
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 18:16, zezinho &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lists.jjorge at free.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le mercredi 8 f&#233;vrier 2012 18:44:32, Juan Luis Baptiste a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But how do I remove that tag ? you mean by not using the %make macro
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and call make directly instead ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Exactly. This is often done for buggy makefiles.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Fixing them is better :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> At least reporting the bug upstream
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course, If I knew what the problem is :S
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+It passed !! but I have no clue what happens when using %make macro to
+make the build fail.
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Juan Luis Baptiste &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">juancho at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> It passed !! but I have no clue what happens when using %make macro to
+</I>&gt;<i> make the build fail.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Dammit, I pushed it to the wrong place, it should have gone to
+nonfree. Can someone please move it ?
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+Thanks.
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+&gt;<i> 2012/2/8 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 08:01:02PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; For next major release of libwacom, I've prevented this to happen again.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Now, we've to fix building of gnome-control-center &amp; gnome-settings-daemon
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; with new libwacom:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There are new versions for those. I've submitted them.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; However, some work needs to be done for splitting systemd daemons and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; making gcc/gsd (forgot which) depend on those daemons.
+</I>&gt;<i> If i'm not wrong coling said that it was a no-go for this.
+</I>
+Splitting up? Last email I saw, misc said he wanted it split up. I don't
+really care either way. It would only depend on the &quot;systemd&quot; package,
+but you can still have systemd package while booting with sysvinit (only
+systemd-sysvinit conflicts with it).
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+Anyway, I'll check with colin.
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+-- 
+Regards,
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've made a small change in locales-pl, I have removed Kashubian from it.
+</I>&gt;<i> Kashubian is a (cultural) language of minority and Polish people do not need
+</I>&gt;<i> it. So therefore there is a new subpackage locales-csb with the excluded
+</I>&gt;<i> files from locales-pl.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>
+Are you sure localedrake will install the right package?
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 8 February 2012 16:45,  &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Revision 2922 Author ennael Date 2012-02-08 16:45:34 +0100 (Wed, 08 Feb
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> fix isolinux.bin (syslinux 4)
+</I>
+What was the issue?
+
+&gt;<i> Modified: drakx/trunk/images/make_boot_img
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- drakx/trunk/images/make_boot_img	2012-02-07 22:39:03 UTC (rev 2921)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ drakx/trunk/images/make_boot_img	2012-02-08 15:45:34 UTC (rev 2922)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -13,8 +13,11 @@
+</I>&gt;<i>  my $default_acpi = '';
+</I>&gt;<i>  my $default_vga = &quot;vga=788 splash=silent&quot;;
+</I>&gt;<i>  my $timeout = 150;
+</I>&gt;<i> -my $isolinux_bin = '/usr/lib/syslinux/isolinux.bin';
+</I>&gt;<i>  my $lib = $arch eq 'x86_64' ? 'lib64' : 'lib';
+</I>&gt;<i> +my $isolinux_bin = '/usr/lib/syslinux/isolinux-i586.bin';
+</I>&gt;<i> +if ($arch eq 'x86_64') {
+</I>&gt;<i> +	$isolinux_bin = '/usr/lib/syslinux/isolinux-x86_64.bin';
+</I>&gt;<i> +}
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+    <B>Anne Nicolas</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bsoft-commits%5D%20%5B2922%5D%20fix%20isolinux.bin%20%28syslinux%204%29&In-Reply-To=%3CCACYHsMwH3-bwzSaxabROSL%3DT9Lx2_HcEW6-eqf0XCAoita1kaA%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+&gt;<i> On 8 February 2012 16:45, &#160;&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Revision 2922 Author ennael Date 2012-02-08 16:45:34 +0100 (Wed, 08 Feb
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fix isolinux.bin (syslinux 4)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What was the issue?
+</I>
+In previous syslinux version, isolinux.bin was common for 32 and 64
+bits arch then calling proper code for both arch. syslinux 4 comes
+with 2 different binaries isolinux.bin for both arch
+(isolinux-i576.bin and isolinux-x86_64.bin)
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Modified: drakx/trunk/images/make_boot_img
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --- drakx/trunk/images/make_boot_img &#160;2012-02-07 22:39:03 UTC (rev 2921)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +++ drakx/trunk/images/make_boot_img &#160;2012-02-08 15:45:34 UTC (rev 2922)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> @@ -13,8 +13,11 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;my $default_acpi = '';
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;my $default_vga = &quot;vga=788 splash=silent&quot;;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;my $timeout = 150;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -my $isolinux_bin = '/usr/lib/syslinux/isolinux.bin';
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;my $lib = $arch eq 'x86_64' ? 'lib64' : 'lib';
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +my $isolinux_bin = '/usr/lib/syslinux/isolinux-i586.bin';
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +if ($arch eq 'x86_64') {
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + &#160; &#160; $isolinux_bin = '/usr/lib/syslinux/isolinux-x86_64.bin';
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +}
+</I>
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 8 February 2012 21:01, Kamil Rytarowski&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've made a small change in locales-pl, I have removed Kashubian from it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Kashubian is a (cultural) language of minority and Polish people do not need
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it. So therefore there is a new subpackage locales-csb with the excluded
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> files from locales-pl.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers!
+</I>&gt;<i> Are you sure localedrake will install the right package?
+</I>How is it working? When I run it, there is just one language (Polish).
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+<PRE>Le 07/02/2012 23:47, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> The package already exist so it cannot be a new package request.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's just older in mga1 (but up to date in mga2)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The new LLVM release needs updating dependencies.
+</I>&gt;<i> If one wants the newer LLVM, he should switch to cauldron or wait for mga2.
+</I>&gt;<i> We won't update the build chain in mga1.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+My request was especially about having Clang and it's code analysis 
+tool, not only llvm, as the package offered in Mageia 1 does not include 
+clang nor it's tools.
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+Note that some binaries such as llvmc cannot run because they cannot 
+find the
+libLLVM-2.8.so shared library.
+
+My apologies if the bug report was not meeting all the criterias, but 
+all I was asking for was a little help and a request to have a usual 
+llvm package with all the components you need in it, nothing more.
+
+If this will be done for Mageia 2, fine for me.
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+&gt;<i> On Wednesday 08 February 2012 18:37, Maurice Batey wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> By the way, I had a problem reading your HTML posting, as my newsreader does
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+</I>&gt;<i> Mine does format html, but I have explicitly disabled it.
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not alone in doing that.
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     The odd thing is that your earlier postings were in plain text...
+</I>&gt;<i> I noticed that too.
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+from *.gnome.org (download.gnome.org or ftp.gnome.org).
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+In the spec file, the Source: usually has an URL. IMO the most reliable
+option is checking the Source: URL.
+I thought of matching <A HREF="http://git.gnome.org/repositories.txt">http://git.gnome.org/repositories.txt</A> or
+<A HREF="http://download.gnome.org/sources">http://download.gnome.org/sources</A> to the Mageia package name; but I
+already know that there are differences.
+I also looked into &quot;urpmq&quot;, but I don't see any way to determine the
+Source URL.
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+So: anyone know of a good way to query the Source: URL from all the spec
+files?
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+Requirement: I don't want to overload the Mageia infrastructure! (e.g. I
+could checkout the entire <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/,">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/,</A>
+but that is a bit madness)
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+What I want to do with this:
+- determines all GNOME packages
+- determines all patches for these packages
+  so I can either commit the patch upstream, or file a bug for a review
+- be notified when there is a new one patch or package (so I can check
+  the spec file)
+- have the script perform basic spec file checking
+- perhaps automatically prepare the minor GNOME version upgrades
+  (meaning: script the &quot;new version&quot; releases for Cauldron)
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+PS:
+- there are some things on ftp.gnome.org which are not in git.gnome.org,
+  but that's pretty limited.
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+    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 09 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 09:32 +0100, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> For GNOME QA purposes, I'd like to list all Mageia packages which come
+</I>&gt;<i> from *.gnome.org (download.gnome.org or ftp.gnome.org).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> In the spec file, the Source: usually has an URL. IMO the most reliable
+</I>&gt;<i> option is checking the Source: URL.
+</I>&gt;<i> I thought of matching <A HREF="http://git.gnome.org/repositories.txt">http://git.gnome.org/repositories.txt</A> or
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://download.gnome.org/sources">http://download.gnome.org/sources</A> to the Mageia package name; but I
+</I>&gt;<i> already know that there are differences.
+</I>&gt;<i> I also looked into &quot;urpmq&quot;, but I don't see any way to determine the
+</I>&gt;<i> Source URL.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So: anyone know of a good way to query the Source: URL from all the spec
+</I>&gt;<i> files?
+</I>
+I would use sophie ( sophie.zarb.org ).
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Requirement: I don't want to overload the Mageia infrastructure! (e.g. I
+</I>&gt;<i> could checkout the entire <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/,">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/,</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> but that is a bit madness)
+</I>
+I doubt this will overload our infrastructure.
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 04:42:05PM -0300, John Balcaen wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2012/2/8 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Wed, Feb 08, 2012 at 08:01:02PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; For next major release of libwacom, I've prevented this to happen again.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Now, we've to fix building of gnome-control-center &amp; gnome-settings-daemon
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; with new libwacom:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; There are new versions for those. I've submitted them.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; However, some work needs to be done for splitting systemd daemons and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; making gcc/gsd (forgot which) depend on those daemons.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If i'm not wrong coling said that it was a no-go for this.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Splitting up? Last email I saw, misc said he wanted it split up. 
+</I>
+This is not much what I want than what we agreed to be able to do for
+mageia 2, ie still be able to use sysvinit to boot, and if we can ( and
+I think we can ), be able to remove systemd rpm cause people will
+complain otherwise.
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+I personnally would have switched to systemd since I prefer this, but I
+guess not everybody agreed with this plan.
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+&gt;<i> For GNOME QA purposes, I'd like to list all Mageia packages which come
+</I>&gt;<i> from *.gnome.org (download.gnome.org or ftp.gnome.org).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> In the spec file, the Source: usually has an URL. IMO the most reliable
+</I>&gt;<i> option is checking the Source: URL.
+</I>&gt;<i> I thought of matching <A HREF="http://git.gnome.org/repositories.txt">http://git.gnome.org/repositories.txt</A> or
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://download.gnome.org/sources">http://download.gnome.org/sources</A> to the Mageia package name; but I
+</I>&gt;<i> already know that there are differences.
+</I>&gt;<i> I also looked into &quot;urpmq&quot;, but I don't see any way to determine the
+</I>&gt;<i> Source URL.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So: anyone know of a good way to query the Source: URL from all the spec
+</I>&gt;<i> files?
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+You can use info.xml.lzma files on mirrors.
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+With something like this :
+GET <A HREF="http://twiska.zarb.org/mageia/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/media_info/info.xml.lzma">http://twiska.zarb.org/mageia/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/media_info/info.xml.lzma</A> \
+|<i> unxz | perl -MXML::Simple -e 'print join &quot;\n&quot;, map { $_-&gt;{&quot;fn&quot;} } grep { $_-&gt;{&quot;url&quot;} =~ /\.gnome\.org/ } @{XMLin(&quot;-&quot;)-&gt;{&quot;info&quot;}};'
+</I>
+And this give me this list of source packages :
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+xdg-user-dirs-gtk-0.8-5.mga1.src
+gdm-3.2.1.1-3.mga2.src
+libgtop2-2.28.4-1.mga2.src
+bug-buddy-2.32.0-4.mga2.src
+latexila-2.3.1-1.mga2.src
+sushi-0.3.0-1.mga2.src
+yelp-3.3.3-1.mga2.src
+gnome-system-monitor-3.3.4-1.mga2.src
+libunique-1.1.6-6.mga2.src
+gnome-contacts-3.3.4-1.mga2.src
+nautilus-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+java-access-bridge-1.26.2-4.mga2.src
+gnome-vfs2-2.24.4-3.mga2.src
+evolution-groupwise-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+emerillon-0.1.90-4.mga2.src
+gnome-games-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+gnome-mag-0.16.3-2.mga2.src
+libbonobo-2.32.1-3.mga2.src
+gnome-js-common-0.1.2-2.mga1.src
+vinagre-3.3.4-2.mga2.src
+gnome-speech-0.4.25-7.mga2.src
+gdlmm-3.3.2-1.mga2.src
+pyorbit-2.24.0-6.mga1.src
+fonts-ttf-bitstream-vera-1.10-10.mga1.src
+yelp-xsl-3.3.2-1.mga2.src
+gnome-session-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+gnome-web-photo-0.10.5-1.mga2.src
+gtkglextmm-1.2.0-1.mga2.src
+gnumeric-1.11.1-1.mga2.src
+python-gobject3-3.1.0-1.mga2.src
+brasero-3.2.0-2.mga2.src
+gnome-icon-theme-3.2.1.2-1.mga2.src
+modemmanager-0.5.1.95-1.mga2.src
+libwnck3-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+atk1.0-2.3.3-1.mga2.src
+libgee0.6-0.6.4-1.mga2.src
+gcr-3.3.4-1.mga2.src
+gnome-screensaver-3.2.0-1.mga2.src
+totem-3.3.4-4.mga2.src
+grilo-plugins-0.1.18-1.mga2.src
+json-glib-0.14.2-1.mga2.src
+devhelp-3.3.3-1.mga2.src
+empathy-3.3.5-3.mga2.src
+libbonoboui-2.24.5-3.mga2.src
+vte-0.28.2-3.mga2.src
+pessulus-2.30.4-1.mga1.src
+gnome-disk-utility-3.3.91-1.mga2.src
+baobab-3.3.1-1.mga2.src
+gnome-keyring-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+labyrinth-0.4.0-2.mga1.src
+file-roller-3.3.3-1.mga2.src
+mutter-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+evince-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+gnome-color-manager-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+drwright-3.2.4-1.mga2.src
+libgnomecanvas-2.30.3-4.mga2.src
+evolution-3.3.5-2.mga2.src
+libgnome-keyring-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+evolution-sharp-0.21.1-13.mga2.src
+gnome-documents-0.3.4-2.mga2.src
+eog-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+moserial-3.0.5-1.mga2.src
+networkmanager-applet-0.9.2.0-3.mga2.src
+gnome-python-2.28.1-3.mga2.src
+zenity-3.2.0-1.mga2.src
+libchamplain-0.12.1-2.mga2.src
+gnome-system-log-3.3.1-1.mga2.src
+libgnomekbd-3.2.0-1.mga2.src
+accerciser-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+gedit-plugins-3.3.2-1.mga2.src
+gnote-0.8.2-1.mga2.src
+libgxps-0.2.1-1.mga2.src
+libglade2.0-2.6.4-6.mga2.src
+epiphany-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+pinpoint-0.1.4-3.mga2.src
+gnome-python-desktop-2.32.0-12.mga2.src
+python-gobject-2.28.6-5.mga2.src
+glib-networking-2.31.6-1.mga2.src
+libpeas-1.2.0-2.mga2.src
+cheese-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+gnome-doc-utils-0.20.6-1.mga2.src
+gnome-phone-manager-0.68-7.mga2.src
+libgtkhtml2-2.11.1-8.mga2.src
+gnome-desktop-2.32.1-2.mga2.src
+gnome-power-manager-3.3.3-1.mga2.src
+networkmanager-vpnc-0.9.0-1.mga2.src
+vino-3.3.3-1.mga2.src
+perl-Gtk2-NotificationBubble-0.01-13.mga2.src
+gtk-engines2-2.20.2-1.mga1.src
+glade-3.10.2-1.mga2.src
+gnome-utils-3.2.1-1.mga2.src
+GConf2-3.2.3-1.mga2.src
+tomboy-1.9.6-1.mga2.src
+gtranslator-2.90.8-2.mga2.src
+gnome-user-docs-3.2.2-1.mga2.src
+yelp-tools-3.3.2-1.mga2.src
+goffice0.8-0.8.17-2.mga2.src
+ocrfeeder-0.7.7-1.mga2.src
+gir-repository-0.6.6-0.20100907.3.mga1.src
+notification-daemon-0.7.3-1.mga2.src
+gnome-pilot-2.91.93-3.mga2.src
+gnome-font-viewer-3.3.2.1-1.mga2.src
+gdl-3.3.4-1.mga2.src
+cantarell-fonts-0.0.7-1.mga2.src
+vte3-0.31.0-2.mga2.src
+nemiver-0.9.1-2.mga2.src
+python-gtksourceview-2.10.1-3.mga1.src
+libgweather-3.2.1-1.mga2.src
+mobile-broadband-provider-info-20110511-2.git20120114.1.mga2.src
+at-spi-1.32.0-5.mga2.src
+gvfs-1.11.3-0.20120131.2.mga2.src
+libgnomecups-0.2.3-6.mga1.src
+python-gtkglext-1.1.0-9.mga1.src
+gamin-0.1.10-8.mga2.src
+libunique3-3.0.2-2.mga2.src
+networkmanager-openconnect-0.9.0-1.mga2.src
+evolution-data-server-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+gnome-games-extra-data-3.2.0-1.mga2.src
+gedit-cossa-3.2.0-1.mga2.src
+gnome-search-tool-3.3.1-1.mga2.src
+libgdata-0.11.0-1.mga2.src
+ORBit2-2.14.19-2.mga2.src
+regexxer-0.10-1.mga2.src
+orca-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+gnome-tweak-tool-3.3.4-1.mga2.src
+seahorse-sharing-3.2.1-1.mga2.src
+gnome-menus-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+rest-0.7.12-1.mga2.src
+gnome-backgrounds-3.3.3-1.mga2.src
+gnome-terminal-3.3.0-1.mga2.src
+caribou-0.4.1-2.mga2.src
+gnome-dictionary-3.3.2-1.mga2.src
+nautilus-sendto-3.0.1-3.mga2.src
+gedit-3.3.2-3.mga2.src
+libgee0.8-0.7.1-1.mga2.src
+gnome-mime-data-2.18.0-8.mga1.src
+goobox-3.0.0-1.mga2.src
+gtksourceviewmm2-2.10.2-2.mga2.src
+epiphany-extensions-3.2.0-1.mga2.src
+gconf-editor-3.0.1-1.mga2.src
+gjs-1.31.10-1.mga2.src
+networkmanager-openvpn-0.9.2.0-1.mga2.src
+gnome-nettool-3.0.1-1.mga2.src
+gnome-shell-extensions-3.3.2-1.mga2.src
+libgnomeui2-2.24.5-3.mga2.src
+rhythmbox-2.95-2.mga2.src
+frogr-0.6.1-1.mga2.src
+nautilus-python-1.1-1.mga2.src
+aisleriot-3.3.1-1.mga2.src
+gnome-media-2.91.2-1.mga2.src
+libgnome2-2.32.1-8.mga2.src
+gnome-screenshot-3.3.2-1.mga2.src
+gnome-applets-3.3.1-1.mga2.src
+gnome-python-extras-2.25.3-35.mga2.src
+networkmanager-pptp-0.9.0-1.mga2.src
+gnome-devel-docs-3.3.1-1.mga2.src
+libsoup-2.37.5-1.mga2.src
+gobject-introspection-1.31.10-1.mga2.src
+giggle-0.6.1-1.mga2.src
+gtksourceviewmm-3.2.0-1.mga2.src
+libepc-0.4.4-1.mga2.src
+planner-0.14.6-1.mga2.src
+goffice-0.9.1-1.mga2.src
+gnome-video-effects-0.3.0-3.mga2.src
+ghex-3.0.0-2.mga2.src
+gtkhtml-3.14-3.32.2-2.mga2.src
+libwnck-2.30.7-1.mga2.src
+gnome-online-accounts-3.3.0-1.mga2.src
+networkmanager-0.9.2.0-1.mga2.src
+rygel-0.13.0-1.mga2.src
+gnome-common-3.1.0-1.mga2.src
+dconf-0.11.5-1.mga2.src
+dia-0.97.2-1.mga2.src
+evolution-exchange-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+grilo-0.1.18-1.mga2.src
+eog-plugins-3.2.2-2.mga2.src
+libgnome-media-profiles-3.0.0-8.mga2.src
+glade3-3.8.1-2.mga2.src
+mousetweaks-3.2.1-1.mga2.src
+sabayon-2.30.1-3.mga1.src
+libgee-0.7.2-1.mga2.src
+gnome-desktop3-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+vala-0.15.1-1.mga2.src
+nautilus-open-terminal-0.19-1.mga2.src
+gnome-panel-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+seed-3.2.0-1.mga2.src
+gnome-shell-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+gnome-settings-daemon-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+gnome-control-center-3.3.5-1.mga2.src
+gnome-themes-standard-3.3.5.1-1.mga2.src
+metacity-2.34.2-1.mga2.src
+gnome-boxes-3.3.5.1-1.mga2.src
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+So Beta 1 release is planned in 12 days. As stated, beta version
+should start cycle of bugs fixing and improve current state of
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+As a reminder here are the focus for packagers and testers:
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+- missing deps
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.i586.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.i586.txt</A>
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.x86_64.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.x86_64.txt</A>
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+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120</A>
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Features/Systemd">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Features/Systemd</A>
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+- oxygen integration
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4300">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4300</A>
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+- dracut issues
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4298">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4298</A>
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+- syslinux / gfxboot issues
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4299">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4299</A>
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+- kmod migration
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4301">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4301</A>
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+Anne
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+<PRE>2012/2/9 nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For GNOME QA purposes, I'd like to list all Mageia packages which come
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from *.gnome.org (download.gnome.org or ftp.gnome.org).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In the spec file, the Source: usually has an URL. IMO the most reliable
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> option is checking the Source: URL.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I thought of matching <A HREF="http://git.gnome.org/repositories.txt">http://git.gnome.org/repositories.txt</A> or
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://download.gnome.org/sources">http://download.gnome.org/sources</A> to the Mageia package name; but I
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> already know that there are differences.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I also looked into &quot;urpmq&quot;, but I don't see any way to determine the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Source URL.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So: anyone know of a good way to query the Source: URL from all the spec
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> files?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can use info.xml.lzma files on mirrors.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> With something like this :
+</I>&gt;<i> GET <A HREF="http://twiska.zarb.org/mageia/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/media_info/info.xml.lzma">http://twiska.zarb.org/mageia/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/media_info/info.xml.lzma</A> \
+</I>&gt;<i> | unxz | perl -MXML::Simple -e 'print join &quot;\n&quot;, map { $_-&gt;{&quot;fn&quot;} } grep { $_-&gt;{&quot;url&quot;} =~ /\.gnome\.org/ } @{XMLin(&quot;-&quot;)-&gt;{&quot;info&quot;}};'
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+<PRE>On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 5:34 AM, andre999 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andre999mga at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op maandag 06 februari 2012 08:50:21 schreef Sander Lepik:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 06.02.2012 09:38, Funda Wang kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And, don't forget, we still have a package named firefox-beta. If we
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> stick with FF10, then some day we will come to a situation of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> firefox-10.0.4 and firefox-beta-15b1 for Mageia 2, which is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> unacceptable. Or, we should make an exception on firefox-beta, it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should be obsoleted by updated firefox for stable distros.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The long-term support versions just obsolete lower-numbered
+</I>&gt;<i> non-long-term-support versions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Indeed, firefox-beta must be obsoleted on stable release like chrome's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> similar versions are as we don't have maintaner who wants to keep them
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> up-to-date on stable releases.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I agree with D.Morgan that if we want to continue with ESR version then
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cauldron will stay on 10.0 (not sure how we can have newer versions of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> beta if they depend on the same packages).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And it's also true that we will lose some users if they don't want to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> use tarball version and will pick distro that can keep browsers
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> up-to-date. Sad, but true.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (Funda, can you please stop top-posting. This is rude man!)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Sander
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> possibly if someone has time, they could try to maintain/backport the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> non-ESR
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> branch...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but imho, if people want the latest, they don't wait for packagers to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> finish+test it in one week, the get upstream version...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so the other persons are fine with ESR versions... imho
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> +1
+</I>&gt;<i> I doubt that we will lose any (or many) users interested in the latest
+</I>&gt;<i> version, as all distros will be faced with this time lag relative to
+</I>&gt;<i> upstream.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Andr&#233;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I would suggests to stuck on cauldron to version 10.x and in mageia 1
+too and to start to update again as soon as cauldron is open again.
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+&gt;<i> 2012/2/9 nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, 09 Feb 2012, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; For GNOME QA purposes, I'd like to list all Mageia packages which come
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; from *.gnome.org (download.gnome.org or ftp.gnome.org).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; In the spec file, the Source: usually has an URL. IMO the most reliable
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; option is checking the Source: URL.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I thought of matching <A HREF="http://git.gnome.org/repositories.txt">http://git.gnome.org/repositories.txt</A> or
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; <A HREF="http://download.gnome.org/sources">http://download.gnome.org/sources</A> to the Mageia package name; but I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; already know that there are differences.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I also looked into &quot;urpmq&quot;, but I don't see any way to determine the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Source URL.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; So: anyone know of a good way to query the Source: URL from all the spec
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; files?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; You can use info.xml.lzma files on mirrors.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; With something like this :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; GET <A HREF="http://twiska.zarb.org/mageia/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/media_info/info.xml.lzma">http://twiska.zarb.org/mageia/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/media_info/info.xml.lzma</A> \
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; | unxz | perl -MXML::Simple -e 'print join &quot;\n&quot;, map { $_-&gt;{&quot;fn&quot;} } grep { $_-&gt;{&quot;url&quot;} =~ /\.gnome\.org/ } @{XMLin(&quot;-&quot;)-&gt;{&quot;info&quot;}};'
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Or just urpmf on the src media :)
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> 2012/2/9 nicolas vigier &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">boklm at mars-attacks.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, 09 Feb 2012, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For GNOME QA purposes, I'd like to list all Mageia packages which come
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> from *.gnome.org (download.gnome.org or ftp.gnome.org).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> In the spec file, the Source: usually has an URL. IMO the most reliable
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> option is checking the Source: URL.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I thought of matching <A HREF="http://git.gnome.org/repositories.txt">http://git.gnome.org/repositories.txt</A> or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://download.gnome.org/sources">http://download.gnome.org/sources</A> to the Mageia package name; but I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> already know that there are differences.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I also looked into &quot;urpmq&quot;, but I don't see any way to determine the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Source URL.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So: anyone know of a good way to query the Source: URL from all the spec
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> files?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You can use info.xml.lzma files on mirrors.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> With something like this :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> GET <A HREF="http://twiska.zarb.org/mageia/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/media_info/info.xml.lzma">http://twiska.zarb.org/mageia/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/media_info/info.xml.lzma</A> \
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> | unxz | perl -MXML::Simple -e 'print join &quot;\n&quot;, map { $_-&gt;{&quot;fn&quot;} } grep { $_-&gt;{&quot;url&quot;} =~ /\.gnome\.org/ } @{XMLin(&quot;-&quot;)-&gt;{&quot;info&quot;}};'
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Or just urpmf on the src media :)
+</I>
+Something like urpmf --synthesis
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 10:34:51AM +0000, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+&gt;<i> Something like urpmf --synthesis
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/mageia/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/media_info/synthesis.hdlist.cz
+</I>&gt;<i> --url 'gnome\.org'
+</I>
+Cool!
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+But that prints the URL, not the contents of the tarball URL, meaning
+the part in the spec file which reads
+  Source: <A HREF="http://download.gnome.org/sources/gtk+/$FOO/$BAR.tar.xz">http://download.gnome.org/sources/gtk+/$FOO/$BAR.tar.xz</A>
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+Maybe it is impossible to do, but I don't know :)
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 10:34:51AM +0000, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Something like urpmf --synthesis
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/mageia/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/media_info/synthesis.hdlist.cz
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --url 'gnome\.org'
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cool!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But that prints the URL, not the contents of the tarball URL, meaning
+</I>&gt;<i> the part in the spec file which reads
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;Source: <A HREF="http://download.gnome.org/sources/gtk+/$FOO/$BAR.tar.xz">http://download.gnome.org/sources/gtk+/$FOO/$BAR.tar.xz</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe it is impossible to do, but I don't know :)
+</I>
+It is harder as this information is not in the metadata on mirrors,
+not even in the src.rpm, only in the spec files
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+src.rpm only keep the filename as this is enough to build:
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+$ rpm -qp --qf &quot;%{SOURCE}\n&quot;
+/distrib/mageia/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/gnome-boxes-3.3.5.1-1.mga2.src.rpm
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+&gt;<i> ennael &lt;ennael&gt; 1.64-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 206647
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+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;+ tmb &lt;tmb&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- generate md5sum for all-nonfree.img and hd_grub-nonfree.img too
+</I>
+Due to mgarepo bugs[1], you've to resubmit it with --define section=core/release
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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+<PRE>Olav Vitters skrev 9.2.2012 12:39:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 10:34:51AM +0000, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Something like urpmf --synthesis
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/mageia/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/media_info/synthesis.hdlist.cz
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --url 'gnome\.org'
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cool!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But that prints the URL, not the contents of the tarball URL, meaning
+</I>&gt;<i> the part in the spec file which reads
+</I>&gt;<i>    Source: <A HREF="http://download.gnome.org/sources/gtk+/$FOO/$BAR.tar.xz">http://download.gnome.org/sources/gtk+/$FOO/$BAR.tar.xz</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe it is impossible to do, but I don't know :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I dont see how seeing the &quot;SOURCE:&quot; url would help as it usually would 
+state .../%{name}-%{version}.tar.xz so you still would need to parse 
+spec to get something in place of %{name} and %{version}
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+&gt;&gt;<i> I doubt that we will lose any (or many) users interested in the latest
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> version, as all distros will be faced with this time lag relative to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> upstream.
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+</I>&gt;<i> I would suggests to stuck on cauldron to version 10.x and in mageia 1
+</I>&gt;<i> too and to start to update again as soon as cauldron is open again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> some objections ?
+</I>
+I think quite a lot users would want the latest version.
+
+For now Fedora &amp; Ubuntu keep updating to latest version.
+We shouldn't stick to ESR releases unless other do,
+especially since we're a long way of being present
+in enterprises...
+
+Last but not least: please only _QUOTE_ what you respond to next time.
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Olav Vitters skrev 9.2.2012 12:39:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 10:34:51AM +0000, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Something like urpmf --synthesis
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/mageia/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/media_info/synthesis.hdlist.cz
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --url 'gnome\.org'
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cool!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But that prints the URL, not the contents of the tarball URL, meaning
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the part in the spec file which reads
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; Source: <A HREF="http://download.gnome.org/sources/gtk+/$FOO/$BAR.tar.xz">http://download.gnome.org/sources/gtk+/$FOO/$BAR.tar.xz</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe it is impossible to do, but I don't know :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I dont see how seeing the &quot;SOURCE:&quot; url would help as it usually would state
+</I>&gt;<i> .../%{name}-%{version}.tar.xz so you still would need to parse spec to get
+</I>&gt;<i> something in place of %{name} and %{version}
+</I>
+URL is for the website, looking at all packages with gnome.org url
+will not list the ones which are using another domain for their site,
+even if they are part of gnome
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+&gt;<i> src.rpm only keep the filename as this is enough to build:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> $ rpm -qp --qf &quot;%{SOURCE}\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/mageia/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/gnome-boxes-3.3.5.1-1.mga2.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome-boxes-3.3.5.1.tar.xz
+</I>
+Ah, then I'll just match on filename then and compare the source
+filename to the listing of <A HREF="http://download.gnome.org/sources.">http://download.gnome.org/sources.</A>
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+Is that information in synthesis?
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+Regards,
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+&gt;<i> - oxygen integration
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4300">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4300</A>
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+For the record, I made gtk+2.0 stop requesting oxygen-gtk theme
+since it make gnome-classic segfault right on startup on all
+machines I've tested. Also net_applet sometimes segfault in
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+And there're so much other bugs I think we should drop
+it for gtk+3.0 too
+See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=oxygen&amp;sharer_id=81">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=oxygen&amp;sharer_id=81</A>
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 10:57, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 10:47:14AM +0000, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> src.rpm only keep the filename as this is enough to build:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> $ rpm -qp --qf &quot;%{SOURCE}\n&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/mageia/distrib/cauldron/SRPMS/core/release/gnome-boxes-3.3.5.1-1.mga2.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gnome-boxes-3.3.5.1.tar.xz
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ah, then I'll just match on filename then and compare the source
+</I>&gt;<i> filename to the listing of <A HREF="http://download.gnome.org/sources.">http://download.gnome.org/sources.</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is that information in synthesis?
+</I>
+It is in files.xml.lzma, you can extract it from there or request it from urpmf
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> On 9 February 2012 11:33, D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I doubt that we will lose any (or many) users interested in the latest
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> version, as all distros will be faced with this time lag relative to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> upstream.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would suggests to stuck on cauldron to version 10.x and in mageia 1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> too and to start to update again as soon as cauldron is open again.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some objections ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think quite a lot users would want the latest version.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For now Fedora &amp; Ubuntu keep updating to latest version.
+</I>&gt;<i> We shouldn't stick to ESR releases unless other do,
+</I>&gt;<i> especially since we're a long way of being present
+</I>&gt;<i> in enterprises...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Last but not least: please only _QUOTE_ what you respond to next time.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+ihmo, the users who want the latest versions will not even wait one week,
+and will grab them from upstream. If we really wanted the latest release,
+someone could backport them.
+
+the end users will benefit too, because the modules/plugins will still
+work and not being unstable at every update. as a long time stable user, i
+prefer the ESR... we've been complaining about too short releasecycles...
+this is the answer, we should use it.
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+    <B>Sander Lepik</B> 
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+<PRE>09.02.2012 13:35, AL13N kirjutas:
+&gt;<i> ihmo, the users who want the latest versions will not even wait one week,
+</I>&gt;<i> and will grab them from upstream. If we really wanted the latest release,
+</I>&gt;<i> someone could backport them.
+</I>And backports work since what time?
+&gt;<i> the end users will benefit too, because the modules/plugins will still
+</I>&gt;<i> work and not being unstable at every update. as a long time stable user, i
+</I>&gt;<i> prefer the ESR... we've been complaining about too short releasecycles...
+</I>&gt;<i> this is the answer, we should use it.
+</I>Most users don't know what to do with tarball. They only know that their 
+browser doesn't have latest promoted changes. And that means 
+distribution is doing something wrong for them.
+
+We were complaining because extensions didn't work. I don't know how 
+many plugins there were with problems. Can't remember any myself. 
+Nonbinary extensions are now compatible by default, so one problem less.
+
+ESR means QA testing anyway. It's only bugfixes but that doesn't mean 
+you can update w/o testing.
+
+--
+Sander
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thu, Feb 09, 2012 at 11:19:00AM +0000, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+&gt;<i> It is in files.xml.lzma, you can extract it from there or request it from urpmf
+</I>
+Cool!
+
+Wrote an initial script for matching GNOME with the packages.
+
+In case interested, see attached for the script. This is just to match
+the things together. The matching is the basic requirement. I now want
+to make it actually do something useful ;)
+
+You get output like:
+libgee libgee0.6        libgee  libgee0.8
+
+meaning: libgree is upstream, downstream as:
+  libgee0.6
+  libgee
+  libgee0.8
+
+This so I can integrate things like &quot;mgarepo co $DOWNSTREAM&quot;, etc.
+
+
+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
+-------------- next part --------------
+#!/usr/bin/python
+
+import os
+import os.path
+import sys
+import re
+import subprocess
+import urllib2
+import urlparse
+from sgmllib import SGMLParser
+
+MEDIA=&quot;Core Release Source&quot;
+URL=&quot;<A HREF="http://download.gnome.org/sources/">http://download.gnome.org/sources/</A>&quot;
+
+class urllister(SGMLParser):
+    def reset(self):
+        SGMLParser.reset(self)
+        self.urls = []
+
+    def start_a(self, attrs):
+        href = [v for k, v in attrs if k=='href']
+        if href:
+            self.urls.extend(href)
+
+def get_upstream_names():
+    urlopen = urllib2.build_opener()
+
+    good_dir = re.compile('^[-A-Za-z0-9_]+/$')
+
+    # Get the files
+    usock = urlopen.open(URL)
+    parser = urllister()
+    parser.feed(usock.read())
+    usock.close()
+    parser.close()
+    files = parser.urls
+
+    tarballs = set([filename.replace('/', '') for filename in files if good_dir.search(filename)])
+
+    return tarballs
+
+def get_downstream_names():
+    re_file = re.compile(r'^(?P&lt;module&gt;.*?)[_-](?:(?P&lt;oldversion&gt;([0-9]+[\.])*[0-9]+)-)?(?P&lt;version&gt;([0-9]+[\.\-])*[0-9]+)\.(?P&lt;format&gt;(?:tar\.|diff\.)?[a-z][a-z0-9]*)$')
+
+    p = subprocess.Popen(['urpmf', '--files', '.', &quot;--media&quot;, MEDIA], stdout=subprocess.PIPE, close_fds=True)
+    contents = p.stdout.read().strip(&quot;\n&quot;).splitlines()
+    ecode = p.wait()
+    if ecode != 0:
+        sys.exit(1)
+
+    FILES = {}
+    TARBALLS = {}
+
+    for line in  contents:
+        try:
+            srpm, filename = line.split(&quot;:&quot;)
+        except ValueError:
+            print line
+            continue
+
+        if '.tar' in filename:
+            r = re_file.match(filename)
+            if r:
+                fileinfo = r.groupdict()
+                module = fileinfo['module']
+
+                if module not in TARBALLS:
+                    TARBALLS[module] = set()
+                TARBALLS[module].add(srpm)
+
+        if srpm not in FILES:
+            FILES[srpm] = set()
+        FILES[srpm].add(filename)
+
+    return TARBALLS, FILES
+
+if __name__ == &quot;__main__&quot;:
+    upstream = get_upstream_names()
+    downstream, downstream_files = get_downstream_names()
+
+    matches = upstream &amp; set(downstream.keys())
+
+    for module in matches:
+        print module, &quot;\t&quot;.join(downstream[module])
+
+-------------- next part --------------
+sun-htmlmacro:sun-htmlmacro-1.0-r27-javadoc-build:xml.patch
+latexila latexila
+tomboy tomboy
+gnome-doc-utils gnome-doc-utils
+seahorse-sharing seahorse-sharing
+murrine murrine
+ocrfeeder ocrfeeder
+devhelp devhelp
+goocanvas goocanvas	goocanvas2
+grilo-plugins grilo-plugins
+totem totem
+GConf GConf2
+evince evince
+gnome-system-monitor gnome-system-monitor
+librsvg librsvg
+medusa medusa
+regexxer regexxer
+gdl gnudl	gdl
+libgnomeprintui libgnomeprintui
+gssdp gssdp
+anjuta anjuta
+gnome-bluetooth gnome-bluetooth
+vte vte3	vte
+gupnp-ui gupnp-ui
+libIDL libIDL
+ghex ghex
+libgnomedb libgnomedb4.0
+gdk-pixbuf gdk-pixbuf2.0	gdk-pixbuf2.0-lsb
+libgnome libgnome2
+metacity metacity
+folks folks
+evolution-exchange evolution-exchange
+gnome-font-viewer gnome-font-viewer
+gedit-cossa gedit-cossa
+epiphany-extensions epiphany-extensions
+rarian rarian
+glibmm glibmm2.4
+hamster-applet hamster-applet
+gnote gnote
+goffice goffice	goffice0.8
+gnome-media gnome-media
+gtk-sharp gtk-sharp2
+libwacom libwacom
+pygtkglext python-gtkglext
+gnome-shell-extensions gnome-shell-extensions
+libgnomecups libgnomecups
+gnome-mime-data gnome-mime-data
+nautilus-actions nautilus-actions
+libnotify libnotify
+pessulus pessulus
+pango pango
+atkmm atkmm
+gst-python gstreamer0.10-python
+evolution evolution
+gnome-speech gnome-speech
+gnome-icon-theme gnome-icon-theme
+gnucash gnucash
+dia dia
+gtkglextmm gtkglextmm
+banshee banshee
+gtkmm gtkmm2.4	gtkmm3.0
+gst-plugins-good gstreamer0.10-plugins-good
+gnome-control-center gnome-control-center
+gtetrinet gtetrinet
+gnome-online-accounts gnome-online-accounts
+gnome-js-common gnome-js-common
+rygel rygel
+libgnomesu libgnomesu
+pangomm pangomm
+gtksourceview gtksourceview2	gtksourceview	gtksourceview1
+orca orca
+gnome-disk-utility gnome-disk-utility
+gnome-user-docs gnome-user-docs
+gupnp-av gupnp-av
+vino vino
+glade3 glade3
+xdg-user-dirs-gtk xdg-user-dirs-gtk
+nautilus-python nautilus-python
+gjs gjs
+gnome-backgrounds gnome-backgrounds
+gnome-power-manager gnome-power-manager
+libart_lgpl libart_lgpl
+gtksourceviewmm gtksourceviewmm2	gtksourceviewmm
+json-glib json-glib
+gossip gossip
+libxslt libxslt
+gnome-desktop-sharp gnome-desktop-sharp
+libchamplain libchamplain
+gnome-tweak-tool gnome-tweak-tool
+evolution-sharp evolution-sharp
+glib-networking glib-networking
+libgsf libgsf
+gnome-desktop gnome-desktop3	gnome-desktop
+intltool intltool
+pinpoint pinpoint
+gok gok
+f-spot f-spot
+libgtop libgtop2
+ptlib ptlib
+gnome-terminal gnome-terminal
+ORBit2 ORBit2
+gnome-settings-daemon gnome-settings-daemon
+gnome-documents gnome-documents
+gdm gdm
+genius genius
+tracker tracker
+libgnome-media-profiles libgnome-media-profiles
+gnome-screenshot gnome-screenshot
+pygtksourceview python-gtksourceview
+gnome-search-tool gnome-search-tool
+evolution-webcal evolution-webcal
+gnome-web-photo gnome-web-photo
+meld meld
+gnome-icon-theme-symbolic gnome-icon-theme-symbolic
+labyrinth labyrinth
+gnome-python-extras gnome-python-extras
+gupnp-tools gupnp-tools
+libgxps libgxps
+gnome-dictionary gnome-dictionary
+ModemManager modemmanager
+libgdata libgdata
+glabels glabels
+vala vala
+cogl cogl
+at-spi2-core at-spi2-core
+pygtk pygtk2.0
+gnumeric gnumeric
+gnome-panel gnome-panel
+libgda gda2.0	libgda5.0	libgda4.0
+pygobject python-gobject3	python-gobject
+libgnomeprint libgnomeprint
+libbonoboui libbonoboui
+gtk-doc gtk-doc
+xchat xchat
+giggle giggle
+xchat-gnome xchat-gnome
+empathy empathy
+evolution-data-server evolution-data-server
+seahorse seahorse
+gedit-plugins gedit-plugins
+opal opal3
+baobab baobab
+atk atk1.0
+glade glade
+libgnomeui libgnomeui2
+anjuta-extras anjuta-extras
+libPropList libPropList
+epiphany epiphany
+libgweather libgweather
+gnome-pilot gnome-pilot
+pkg-config pkgconfig
+ekiga ekiga
+NetworkManager-pptp networkmanager-pptp
+at-spi2-atk at-spi2-atk
+gnome-games gnome-games
+loudmouth loudmouth
+cheese cheese
+gitg gitg
+geocode-glib geocode-glib
+gnome-themes-standard gnome-themes-standard
+gupnp-igd gupnp-igd
+gnet gnet2
+yelp-xsl yelp-xsl
+libgnomecanvasmm libgnomecanvasmm2.6
+gucharmap gucharmap
+pitivi pitivi
+gnome-shell gnome-shell
+gcalctool gcalctool
+libgee libgee0.6	libgee	libgee0.8
+gnome-applets gnome-applets
+gupnp-dlna gupnp-dlna
+alacarte alacarte
+gnome-python-desktop gnome-python-desktop
+at-spi at-spi
+gst-plugins-base gstreamer0.10-plugins-base
+gtranslator gtranslator
+eog-plugins eog-plugins
+planner planner
+gnome-python gnome-python
+gupnp-vala gupnp-vala
+abiword abiword
+gnome-contacts gnome-contacts
+startup-notification startup-notification
+gob2 gob2
+gtkglarea gtkglarea2
+notification-daemon notification-daemon
+libxml2 libxml2
+gdlmm gdlmm
+NetworkManager networkmanager
+goobox goobox
+gnome-devel-docs gnome-devel-docs
+gmime gmime
+firestarter firestarter
+gnome-boxes gnome-boxes
+kiwi python-kiwi
+pygoocanvas python-pygoocanvas
+libxklavier libxklavier
+libcroco libcroco0.6
+polkit-gnome polkit-gnome
+gnome-packagekit gnome-packagekit
+rest rest
+bug-buddy bug-buddy
+hippo-canvas hippo-canvas
+emerillon emerillon
+nautilus-open-terminal nautilus-open-terminal
+file-roller file-roller
+mutter mutter
+gupnp gupnp
+gnome-mag gnome-mag
+clutter-gst clutter-gst
+gobject-introspection gobject-introspection
+clutter-gtk clutter-gtk010	clutter-gtk
+accerciser accerciser
+gnome-screensaver gnome-screensaver
+gnome-keyring gnome-keyring
+grilo grilo
+mc mc
+libgnomeuimm libgnomeuimm2.6
+java-gnome java-gnome
+gstreamer gstreamer0.10
+libgnomecanvas libgnomecanvas
+gnome-commander gnome-commander
+network-manager-applet networkmanager-applet
+NetworkManager-vpnc networkmanager-vpnc
+gnome-nettool gnome-nettool
+seed seed
+libepc libepc
+gthumb gthumb
+sound-juicer sound-juicer
+gnome-sharp gnome-sharp2
+brasero brasero
+goocanvasmm goocanvasmm
+glib glib2.0
+nautilus nautilus
+libgtkhtml libgtkhtml2
+gnome-vfs gnome-vfs2
+gconf-editor gconf-editor
+frogr frogr
+libbtctl libbtctl
+sushi sushi
+gedit gedit
+gnome-system-log gnome-system-log
+gir-repository gir-repository
+libxml libxml
+nemiver nemiver
+clutter clutter
+vinagre vinagre
+zenity zenity
+gsettings-desktop-schemas gsettings-desktop-schemas
+rhythmbox rhythmbox
+dconf dconf
+cantarell-fonts cantarell-fonts	abattis-cantarell-fonts
+gimp gimp
+pyorbit pyorbit
+gnome-themes-extras gnome-themes-extras
+pyatspi pyatspi
+gnome-video-effects gnome-video-effects
+gnome-common gnome-common
+libgnome-keyring libgnome-keyring
+mousetweaks mousetweaks
+yelp-tools yelp-tools
+gnome-phone-manager gnome-phone-manager
+libgdamm libgdamm5.0
+gtkhtml gtkhtml4	gtkhtml-3.14
+gtkglext gtkglext
+gcr gcr
+ttf-bitstream-vera fonts-ttf-bitstream-vera
+drwright drwright
+gtk-engines gtk-engines2
+gvfs gvfs
+libsoup libsoup
+pan pan
+dasher dasher
+sabayon sabayon
+gconfmm gconfmm2.6
+glom glom
+mm-common mm-common
+libglademm libglademm2.4
+libunique libunique	libunique3
+evolution-groupwise evolution-groupwise
+atomix atomix
+aisleriot aisleriot
+gnome-games-extra-data gnome-games-extra-data
+gnome-utils gnome-utils
+libwnck libwnck3	libwnck
+mobile-broadband-provider-info mobile-broadband-provider-info
+gnome-color-manager gnome-color-manager
+eog eog
+gamin gamin
+yelp yelp
+libpeas libpeas
+libbonobo libbonobo
+simple-scan simple-scan
+libgnomekbd libgnomekbd
+moserial moserial
+java-access-bridge java-1.7.0-openjdk	java-access-bridge
+NetworkManager-openvpn networkmanager-openvpn
+audiofile audiofile
+NetworkManager-openconnect networkmanager-openconnect
+gnome-menus gnome-menus
+libcryptui libcryptui
+libgnomemm libgnomemm2.6
+gnome-session gnome-session
+totem-pl-parser totem-pl-parser
+libglade libglade2.0
+nautilus-sendto nautilus-sendto
+gtk-vnc gtk-vnc
+caribou caribou
+gnome-vfsmm gnome-vfsmm2.6
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+<PRE>Op donderdag 09 februari 2012 13:04:00 schreef Sander Lepik:
+&gt;<i> 09.02.2012 13:35, AL13N kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ihmo, the users who want the latest versions will not even wait one week,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and will grab them from upstream. If we really wanted the latest release,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; someone could backport them.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And backports work since what time?
+</I>
+that is irrelevant, and we should not assume it will not be ready.
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+&gt;<i> &gt; the end users will benefit too, because the modules/plugins will still
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; work and not being unstable at every update. as a long time stable user,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i prefer the ESR... we've been complaining about too short
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; releasecycles... this is the answer, we should use it.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Most users don't know what to do with tarball. They only know that their
+</I>&gt;<i> browser doesn't have latest promoted changes. And that means
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution is doing something wrong for them.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> We were complaining because extensions didn't work. I don't know how
+</I>&gt;<i> many plugins there were with problems. Can't remember any myself.
+</I>&gt;<i> Nonbinary extensions are now compatible by default, so one problem less.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> ESR means QA testing anyway. It's only bugfixes but that doesn't mean
+</I>&gt;<i> you can update w/o testing.
+</I>
+iinm our update policy dictates that our updates should only have updates in 
+it, and no new features... (unless there is no such supported version)
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+well, now there is... Either the new versions with extra features go into 
+backports, or not at all. if this becomes a problem, then it's one more reason 
+to fix the backports.
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+we have a clear policy, we should follow it.
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+    <B>Mitya</B> 
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+It's only now that I'm installing Cauldron for the first time (yep, I
+know, shame on me!)
+In a few words - you've done a great job guys! The distro is quite
+usable, Alpha 3 DVD installs without a glitch. Upgrade from Alpha 3 to
+Cauldron also went smooth, with the exception of some failing %post
+scripts (namely, for at, cronie and speech-dispatcher). Though, of
+course, I've found several issues, which I decide to dump here first,
+prior to filing Bugzilla bugs. Maybe somebody recognizes the bugs that
+have already been reported. So, here we go:
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+1) URPMI didn't work with DVD media after installation, complaining on
+some udisks problem. After upgrade to Cauldron, though, everything seems
+to be OK;
+2) Totem was not capable of playing any single video from my collection,
+until I've installed gstreamer0.10-{ffmpeg,faad,a52dec,dts}. Probably
+these packages should be suggested by totem, because video player is
+pretty useless without codecs;
+3) adding a VPN interface in GNOME 3 network settings doesn't work. And
+I wonder why doesn't it allow to add broadband or PPPoE connection? Is
+it just unimplemented or what?
+4) Russian input in framebuffer console doesn't work, and I remember it
+worked pretty good in Mandriva. /etc/sysconfig/i18n contents are the
+same. Ctrl-right/left command line navigation in bash doesn't work, too;
+5) if any /etc/fstab entry becomes unavailable (for example, after
+secondary disk having been pulled out), the system fails to boot - first
+waiting for about a minute, and then bailing into a recovery console;
+6) network-up service slows down boot process, always waiting for about
+a minute and failing afterwards. The network is actually up and running.
+Had to disable it with chkconfig;
+7) audio is suspended when you switch to console from X (unless you are
+logged on to this console). This affects Rhythmbox, Totem and any other
+application that plays back audio (play, paplay, ffplay etc.). This is
+due to ConsoleKit doing nasty things to /dev/snd/* entries' ACLs (though
+adding a user to &quot;audio&quot; group doesn't help either). The problem is
+described in detail here:
+<A HREF="http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/multimedia/464721-audio-stops-playing-when-switching-console-xorg.html">http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/multimedia/464721-audio-stops-playing-when-switching-console-xorg.html</A>
+8) after upgrading to Cauldron, gnome-terminal started to pop up a menu
+upon pressing F10 (to quit Midnight Commander, for example - this can be
+very annoying), though accessing menu with F10 is turned off in the
+profile;
+9) Cantarell font, used by default in GNOME Shell, doesn't cover
+Cyrillic glyphs at all, so for Russian messages it gets substituted with
+default sans-serif font. This mixture of fonts looks really ugly. Maybe
+some other quality free font could be considered when using Cyrillic
+locales, like, for example, PT Sans:
+<A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PT_Sans">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PT_Sans</A>
+10) sending mails in Evolution is broken - Evolution (3.3.5) doesn't remember authentication settings for SMTP anymore;
+11) finally, the least significant, but the most annoying for me - can't
+turn off NumLock in GNOME! Neither with the NumLock key itself, nor with
+numlockx. The LED just dims for a fraction of second, and goes back
+again tauntingly :)
+
+So, if anyone notices an issue that has already been reported, please
+let me know so I don't file a duplicate. Again, thanks guys for great
+distro! Won't be coming back to Mandriva :)
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+Mitya
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+<PRE>On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Thierry Vignaud
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 9 February 2012 10:37, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - oxygen integration
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4300">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4300</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the record, I made gtk+2.0 stop requesting oxygen-gtk theme
+</I>&gt;<i> since it make gnome-classic segfault right on startup on all
+</I>&gt;<i> machines I've tested. Also net_applet sometimes segfault in
+</I>&gt;<i> it.
+</I>&gt;<i> And there're so much other bugs I think we should drop
+</I>&gt;<i> it for gtk+3.0 too
+</I>&gt;<i> See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=oxygen&amp;sharer_id=81">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&amp;remaction=run&amp;namedcmd=oxygen&amp;sharer_id=81</A>
+</I>
+i will contact oxygen devs to speak about this.  but it would be
+better to fix bugs instead of removing oxygen
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 08:03:45AM +0100, Dexter Morgan wrote:
+&gt;<i> i will contact oxygen devs to speak about this.  but it would be
+</I>&gt;<i> better to fix bugs instead of removing oxygen
+</I>
+In this case Mageia is choosing something that is pretty much unique.
+All other distributions use the default theme. IMO, Oxygen just looks
+out of place when running GNOME 3.
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+I'll make some screenshots tonight to show the effect it has.
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+Still, it might be nice to have Oxygen by default for everything
+(including gtk2 + gtk3) except when running GNOME 3. I think that is
+possible to configure using gnome-settings-daemon.
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+Oxygen bugs should still be fixed of course. And we do have a lot of
+support from the Oxygen developer.
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 09:37, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So Beta 1 release is planned in 12 days. As stated, beta version
+</I>&gt;<i> should start cycle of bugs fixing and improve current state of
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As a reminder here are the focus for packagers and testers:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - missing deps
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.i586.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.i586.txt</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.x86_64.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.x86_64.txt</A>
+</I>
+I think we should get rid of that files (which were temporary while
+bootstraping), they are not really helpful
+<A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/dependencies.html">http://check.mageia.org/dependencies.html</A> gives more information
+
+&gt;<i> - systemd issues
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2120</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Features/Systemd">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Features/Systemd</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - oxygen integration
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4300">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4300</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - dracut issues
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4298">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4298</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - syslinux / gfxboot issues
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4299">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4299</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - kmod migration
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4301">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4301</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+that works for gnome2/3 and KDE, we could maybe use it as default.
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 08:03:45AM +0100, Dexter Morgan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i will contact oxygen devs to speak about this.  but it would be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> better to fix bugs instead of removing oxygen
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In this case Mageia is choosing something that is pretty much unique.
+</I>&gt;<i> All other distributions use the default theme. IMO, Oxygen just looks
+</I>&gt;<i> out of place when running GNOME 3.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll make some screenshots tonight to show the effect it has.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Still, it might be nice to have Oxygen by default for everything
+</I>&gt;<i> (including gtk2 + gtk3) except when running GNOME 3. I think that is
+</I>&gt;<i> possible to configure using gnome-settings-daemon.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oxygen bugs should still be fixed of course. And we do have a lot of
+</I>&gt;<i> support from the Oxygen developer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Olav
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> tbh, i'm not that fond of oxygen on KDE either. if there's another one
+</I>&gt;<i> that works for gnome2/3 and KDE, we could maybe use it as default.
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+It's just not possible to find something suitable for everybody... And
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tbh, i'm not that fond of oxygen on KDE either. if there's another one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that works for gnome2/3 and KDE, we could maybe use it as default.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's just not possible to find something suitable for everybody... And
+</I>&gt;<i> if you read again meetings logs it was said to be for now the only one
+</I>&gt;<i> to manage a common look'n feel and supported by an active upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> project
+</I>
+that is true, and i do remember that; that's why i said &quot;IF&quot;. i'm just
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+&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/2/10 AL13N &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">alien at rmail.be</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tbh, i'm not that fond of oxygen on KDE either. if there's another one
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that works for gnome2/3 and KDE, we could maybe use it as default.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's just not possible to find something suitable for everybody... And
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if you read again meetings logs it was said to be for now the only one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to manage a common look'n feel and supported by an active upstream
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> project
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> that is true, and i do remember that; that's why i said &quot;IF&quot;. i'm just
+</I>&gt;<i> stating my (likely useless) opinion here. i may not be that fond of it,
+</I>&gt;<i> but then there's more important stuff to be fixed...
+</I>
+well this is also important as if we are not able to fix properly the
+use of oxygen it will blocker for release
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+-- 
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>
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+&gt;<i> Op donderdag 09 februari 2012 13:04:00 schreef Sander Lepik:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 09.02.2012 13:35, AL13N kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ihmo, the users who want the latest versions will not even wait one week,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and will grab them from upstream. If we really wanted the latest release,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> someone could backport them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And backports work since what time?
+</I>&gt;<i> that is irrelevant, and we should not assume it will not be ready.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the end users will benefit too, because the modules/plugins will still
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> work and not being unstable at every update. as a long time stable user,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> i prefer the ESR... we've been complaining about too short
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> releasecycles... this is the answer, we should use it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Most users don't know what to do with tarball. They only know that their
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> browser doesn't have latest promoted changes. And that means
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> distribution is doing something wrong for them.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We were complaining because extensions didn't work. I don't know how
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> many plugins there were with problems. Can't remember any myself.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Nonbinary extensions are now compatible by default, so one problem less.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ESR means QA testing anyway. It's only bugfixes but that doesn't mean
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you can update w/o testing.
+</I>&gt;<i> iinm our update policy dictates that our updates should only have updates in 
+</I>&gt;<i> it, and no new features... (unless there is no such supported version)
+</I>Our update policy already has an exception for Firefox, and so far there were
+no bigger issues during updates from our initial 4.0 to 10.0. And if most other
+distros don't use ESR, we're kind of alienated, and users will ask why we do that,
+because we're not aimed at enterprise usage currently.
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> well, now there is... Either the new versions with extra features go into 
+</I>&gt;<i> backports, or not at all. if this becomes a problem, then it's one more reason 
+</I>&gt;<i> to fix the backports.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we have a clear policy, we should follow it.
+</I>Hypothetically, it would be kinda useless to have two versions of our default
+browser,
+meaning twice the QA and support, and backports are surely not opened solely
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+&gt;<i> Our update policy already has an exception for Firefox, and so far there were
+</I>&gt;<i> no bigger issues during updates from our initial 4.0 to 10.0. And if most other
+</I>&gt;<i> distros don't use ESR, we're kind of alienated, and users will ask why we do that,
+</I>&gt;<i> because we're not aimed at enterprise usage currently.
+</I>
+There was an exception for firefox because there was no other choice.
+Now that mozilla provide supported stable versions, there is no reason
+to keep the exception. What would be the reason to keep updating firefox
+to the latest version and not do the same for all other software ?
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 10 Feb 2012, Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Our update policy already has an exception for Firefox, and so far there
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; were no bigger issues during updates from our initial 4.0 to 10.0. And
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; if most other distros don't use ESR, we're kind of alienated, and users
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; will ask why we do that, because we're not aimed at enterprise usage
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; currently.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> There was an exception for firefox because there was no other choice.
+</I>&gt;<i> Now that mozilla provide supported stable versions, there is no reason
+</I>&gt;<i> to keep the exception. What would be the reason to keep updating firefox
+</I>&gt;<i> to the latest version and not do the same for all other software ?
+</I>
+that is exactly my point.
+
+plus we can't always look at what other distro's do, because they aren't 
+necessarily &quot;right&quot; or &quot;wrong&quot;. and indeed, there is no need to have 2 
+versions, and twice the QA. (unless if there is enough people who want to put 
+time on it, i think the current maintainer has already quite enough work.)
+
+consider even the poll from a while ago, where it was quite clear that people 
+wanted support and stability, not the latest versions. and the more features 
+we have, the more risk of new bugs.
+
+I don't like exceptions, and this is a good reason to get rid of one.
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+&gt;<i> trem &lt;trem&gt; 1.1.0-0.r67830.1.mga2:
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+&gt;<i> On 10 February 2012 22:08, trem &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; trem &lt;trem&gt; 1.1.0-0.r67830.1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; + Revision: 206947
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - update to release 67830
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> s/release/commit/ or revision...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+Well you obviously know the answer, so why not be a little more cheery and
+supportive.
+
+Honestly trem there is away to know if something in each package directory
+actually changed. I don't think just because you did a blanketed svn up
+across the e trunk, that each package changed...
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+This is a little trick we've used for awhile LANGUAGE=C svn info | grep
+&quot;Last Changed Rev:&quot; | cut -d: -f 2 | sed &quot;s@ @@&quot;
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+a little example
+cd edje
+svn up
+Updating '.':
+U    src/lib/edje_program.c
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+U    NEWS
+Updated to revision 67845.
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On 7 February 2012 17:57, trem &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; trem &lt;trem&gt; 1.1.0-0.r67715.1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; + Revision: 205979
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - update to release 67715
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - update to release 67703
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - update to release 67702
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - update to release 67698
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - update to release 67688
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - update to release 67680
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do we really get to package every SVN revision?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Like I said with the edje this one is the same. You really have no change
+in most of those revisions.
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mdawkins at cheetos</A> embryo]$ svn up
+Updating '.':
+U    src/lib/Embryo.h
+Updated to revision 67845.
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mdawkins at cheetos</A> embryo]$ LANGUAGE=C svn info | grep &quot;Last Changed Rev:&quot; |
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+I've got GHC in our repositories. I think it's a good point to start
+a) preparing policies for Haskell
+b) considering adaption of Fedora's ghc-rpm-macros
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+&gt;<i> Our update policy already has an exception for Firefox, and so far there were
+</I>&gt;<i> no bigger issues during updates from our initial 4.0 to 10.0. And if most other
+</I>&gt;<i> distros don't use ESR, we're kind of alienated, and users will ask why we do that,
+</I>&gt;<i> because we're not aimed at enterprise usage currently.
+</I>
+There have been plenty of issues in the transition from 3.6 to 10.0, and I'm not talking about 
+Mageia specifically.  There's been lots of extensions broken, major UI changes, functionality 
+ripped out, etc.  It hasn't been smooth or easy at all.  Major changes in FF have never come like 
+this in its history.  If they are going to continue to make radical changes at the pace they have 
+been, it's going to continue to be a headache.
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+It's a pain for less sophisticated users who have a harder time adjusting to UI changes, broken 
+extensions, and lost functionality.  It's a pain for sysadmins who support these users, sometimes 
+supporting them remotely.  It's a pain for the distro to have to keep building these updates, deal 
+with changed and upgraded dependencies, rebuild tons of dependent stuff, and have to try to QA 
+something that's changing.
+
+Sticking to the ESR will mean less work for the distro, less stress for sysadmins, and less pain 
+for users.  It seems like an obvious choice.
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+Yes, we all know there are users (sometimes more sophisticated, sometimes not) who always want the 
+latest and greatest shiny new version numbers.  I don't claim to have numbers to back it up, but 
+I'd like to think that most users prefer major changes, adjustments, and possible breakage to occur 
+infrequently, and only when it is expected (distro upgrade), rather than happening frequently and 
+by surprise.  I'd like to think that most would prefer things to continue to work, and work the 
+same, and for updates to only fix bugs most of the time.  I would also like to think that those who 
+are overly obsessed about the new shiny version numbers can find ways to manage.
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 09:37, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So Beta 1 release is planned in 12 days. As stated, beta version
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should start cycle of bugs fixing and improve current state of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> distribution.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As a reminder here are the focus for packagers and testers:
+</I>
+Thank you for posting this list Anne.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> - missing deps
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.i586.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.i586.txt</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.x86_64.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.x86_64.txt</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I think we should get rid of that files (which were temporary while
+</I>&gt;<i> bootstraping), they are not really helpful
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/dependencies.html">http://check.mageia.org/dependencies.html</A> gives more information
+</I>
+Thanks Pascal, I was just going to say the same thing.
+
+Speaking of that page, why do a bunch of packages says automake1.4 is missing when we have 
+automake1.4?  Also, what do all of those messages about &quot;found with incorrect range&quot; mean?
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+<PRE>* Kamil Rytarowski (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've got GHC in our repositories. I think it's a good point to start
+</I>&gt;<i> a) preparing policies for Haskell
+</I>&gt;<i> b) considering adaption of Fedora's ghc-rpm-macros
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This will help to include extra Haskell libraries, using better triggers.
+</I>
+I created a way to find automatically req/prov for haskell modules in
+Mandriva.
+
+Do you plan to integrate this in Mageia ?
+
+-- 
+
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+    <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B> 
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+<PRE>I'm trying to checkout a package with mgarepo and i have the follow error message:
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+&quot;Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive).
+svn: To better debug SSH connection problems, remove the -q option from 'ssh' in the [tunnels] section of your Subversion configuration file.
+svn: Network connection closed unexpectedly
+
+It seems ssh-agent or ForwardAgent are not setup or your username is wrong. See <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=svn-faq">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=svn-faq</A> for more information.&quot;
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+It is the first time that i try to use this tool
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A> mgarepo]$ ssh-add -l
+1024 ef:64:3c:2d:d5:a6:5e:45:74:7c:50:cf:a0:64:3b:35 /home/dglent/.ssh/id_dsa (DSA)
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A> mgarepo]$ cat ~/.ssh/config
+Host *.kde.org
+        User glentadakis
+        IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_dsa
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+Host pkgsubmit.mageia.org
+      ForwardAgent yes
+      User dglent
+Host binrepo.mageia.org svn.mageia.org
+      User dglent
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+I'm using Mageia 1
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+What could be wrong ?
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+Thanks
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+    <B>Jani V&#228;limaa</B> 
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+&gt;<i> I'm trying to checkout a package with mgarepo and i have the follow error message:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive).
+</I>&gt;<i> svn: To better debug SSH connection problems, remove the -q option from 'ssh' in the [tunnels] section of your Subversion configuration file.
+</I>&gt;<i> svn: Network connection closed unexpectedly
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems ssh-agent or ForwardAgent are not setup or your username is wrong. See <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=svn-faq">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=svn-faq</A> for more information.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It is the first time that i try to use this tool
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A> mgarepo]$ ssh-add -l
+</I>&gt;<i> 1024 ef:64:3c:2d:d5:a6:5e:45:74:7c:50:cf:a0:64:3b:35 /home/dglent/.ssh/id_dsa (DSA)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A> mgarepo]$ cat ~/.ssh/config
+</I>&gt;<i> Host *.kde.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;User glentadakis
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_dsa
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Host pkgsubmit.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160;ForwardAgent yes
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160;User dglent
+</I>&gt;<i> Host binrepo.mageia.org svn.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160;User dglent
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Try to remove binrepo and svn entry and change pkgsubmit entry to *.mageia.org.
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+&gt;<i> wally &lt;wally&gt; 4.8.2-3.mga2:
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+</I>&gt;<i> - drop P0 (there's no --force switch in xfsettingsd anymore)
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">201202110957.05673.dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>I'm trying to checkout a package with mgarepo and i have the follow error message:
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+</I>&gt;<i>&quot;Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive).
+</I>&gt;<i>svn: To better debug SSH connection problems, remove the -q option from 'ssh' in the [tunnels] section of your Subversion configuration file.
+</I>&gt;<i>svn: Network connection closed unexpectedly
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>It seems ssh-agent or ForwardAgent are not setup or your username is wrong. See <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=svn-faq">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=svn-faq</A> for more information.&quot;
+</I>
+Not that this is of any help to you... but we should get that link in the 
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+&gt;<i> Sticking to the ESR will mean less work for the distro, less stress for
+</I>&gt;<i> sysadmins, and less pain for users.  It seems like an obvious choice.
+</I>
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+Let's only face the speed at which we manage to build/test/push FF10 this 
+days... there is always people saying &quot;we want it&quot; but much less doing it.
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+&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 09:37, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So Beta 1 release is planned in 12 days. As stated, beta version
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should start cycle of bugs fixing and improve current state of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> distribution.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As a reminder here are the focus for packagers and testers:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank you for posting this list Anne.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - missing deps
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.i586.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.i586.txt</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.x86_64.txt">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/data/missing-deps.x86_64.txt</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think we should get rid of that files (which were temporary while
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bootstraping), they are not really helpful
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/dependencies.html">http://check.mageia.org/dependencies.html</A> gives more information
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks Pascal, I was just going to say the same thing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Speaking of that page, why do a bunch of packages says automake1.4 is missing when we have
+</I>&gt;<i> automake1.4? &#160;Also, what do all of those messages about &quot;found with incorrect range&quot; mean?
+</I>
+It doesn't seem so
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at valstar</A> ~]# urpmf --use-distrib
+/distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/ --provides automake1.4
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at valstar</A> ~]#
+
+we have automake1.7 and automake providing 1.8 and 1.9, 1.4 seems to
+no longer be present
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+For the incorrect range, an example:
+calligra-active	calligra-words found with incorrect range ==
+12:2.4-0.beta7.1.mga2 (needed == 12:2.4-0.beta6.1.mga2)
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+calligra-active requires calligra-words = 12:2.4-0.beta6.1.mga2
+current version of calligra-words is 12:2.4-0.beta7.1.mga2 so
+calligra-active can not be installed
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+In this case I guess calligra-active was from the previous version of
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+</I>&gt;<i> What could be wrong ?
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+Did you try to do a checkout on packages svn repository without mgarepo
+to see if that works ?
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+svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current</A>
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What could be wrong ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Did you try to do a checkout on packages svn repository without mgarepo
+</I>&gt;<i> to see if that works ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
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+it works, it gave me this:
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A> mgarepo]$ svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current</A>
+Password:
+Password:
+A    current/SOURCES
+A    current/SOURCES/sha1.lst
+A    current/SPECS
+A    current/SPECS/null.spec
+ U   current
+Checked out revision 207338.
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+Dimitrios Glentadakis
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#931;&#940;&#946;&#946;&#945;&#964;&#959; 11 &#934;&#949;&#946;&#961;&#959;&#965;&#940;&#961;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2012 14:41:59 nicolas vigier &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; What could be wrong ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Did you try to do a checkout on packages svn repository without mgarepo
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to see if that works ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> it works, it gave me this:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A> mgarepo]$ svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Password:
+</I>&gt;<i> Password:
+</I>
+It shouldn't ask you for password if you uploaded your ssh key on
+<A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A>
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+    <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 2012/2/11 Dimitrios Glentadakis &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm trying to checkout a package with mgarepo and i have the follow error message:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; svn: To better debug SSH connection problems, remove the -q option from 'ssh' in the [tunnels] section of your Subversion configuration file.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; svn: Network connection closed unexpectedly
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It seems ssh-agent or ForwardAgent are not setup or your username is wrong. See <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=svn-faq">http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=svn-faq</A> for more information.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It is the first time that i try to use this tool
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A> mgarepo]$ ssh-add -l
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1024 ef:64:3c:2d:d5:a6:5e:45:74:7c:50:cf:a0:64:3b:35 /home/dglent/.ssh/id_dsa (DSA)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A> mgarepo]$ cat ~/.ssh/config
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Host *.kde.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;        User glentadakis
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;        IdentityFile ~/.ssh/id_dsa
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Host pkgsubmit.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;      ForwardAgent yes
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;      User dglent
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Host binrepo.mageia.org svn.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;      User dglent
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Try to remove binrepo and svn entry and change pkgsubmit entry to *.mageia.org.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+i tried it without success
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#931;&#940;&#946;&#946;&#945;&#964;&#959; 11 &#934;&#949;&#946;&#961;&#959;&#965;&#940;&#961;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2012 14:41:59 nicolas vigier &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; What could be wrong ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Did you try to do a checkout on packages svn repository without mgarepo
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; to see if that works ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it works, it gave me this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A> mgarepo]$ svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Password:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Password:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It shouldn't ask you for password if you uploaded your ssh key on
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+in <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A> i choose sshPublicKey i add my key , i clic ok but there is no field added  - (also i did it a second time and i did nt see that was the field Mobile, and i added in the mobile field. Now impossible to delete it. I have the message page not fount) - 
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+i tried again to see if the key was applied somehow in the background of the identity.mageia.org but it asks me always for a password
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+&gt;<i> I'm trying to checkout a package with mgarepo and i have the follow error message:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> What could be wrong ?
+</I>
+Your mgarepo config is probably not set to anonymous checkout:
+Follow the first instructions of
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packagers_Howto_start">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packagers_Howto_start</A>
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+I'm busy filing upstream bugs for every patch in packages which source
+is hosted on ftp.gnome.org.
+
+There are 300 of such patches... and it is getting difficult to keep
+track of what I've filed and the status and so on. This as some patches
+have already been upstreamed, some have been taken from upstream, some
+have been implemented differently, etc.
+
+I'd like to add some meta-information to each of the 300 patches to make
+it easier for me to determine if the patch has been submitted upstream
+or not.
+
+Some patches will always be Mageia specific, I want to store that in the
+meta-information as well.
+
+Quickly looking into how to store this meta-information, I found that
+Debian and Ubuntu have a specification for it:
+  <A HREF="http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/">http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/</A>
+
+It provides the following standard headers (quoting):
+- Description or Subject (required)
+- Origin (required except if Author is present)
+- Bug-&lt;Vendor&gt; or Bug (optional)
+- Forwarded (optional)
+  Any value other than &quot;no&quot; or &quot;not-needed&quot; means that the patch has
+  been forwarded upstream. Ideally the value is an URL proving that it
+  has been forwarded and where one can find more information about its
+  inclusion status.
+- Author or From (optional)
+- Reviewed-by or Acked-by (optional)
+- Last-Update (optional)
+- Applied-Upstream (optional)
+  This field can be used to document the fact that the patch has been
+  applied upstream. It may contain the upstream version expected to
+  contain this patch, or the URL or commit identifier of the upstream
+  commit (with commit identifiers prefixed with &quot;commit:&quot;, as in the
+  Origin field), or both separated by a comma and a space.
+
+
+This specification basically does everything that I need and more.
+
+Is some kind of patch-tracking or meta-information used in Mageia?
+
+If not, do people agree that this Debian/Ubuntu specification is a good
+idea?
+
+
+I'd like everyone to agree, because I'm filing bugs no matter whom the
+maintainer is. I will add the meta-information to patches where I am not
+the maintainer if people agree on above specification.
+
+
+
+FYI
+
+List of bugs filed atm:
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669872">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669872</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669873">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669873</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669875">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669875</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669876">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669876</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669877">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669877</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669878">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669878</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669879">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669879</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669882">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669882</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669881">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669881</A> (wontfixed)
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669883">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669883</A> (fixed differently in master)
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669874">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669874</A>
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669897">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669897</A>
+<A HREF="http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13254">http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13254</A>
+<A HREF="http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13255">http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13255</A>
+<A HREF="http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13256">http://bugzilla.abisource.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13256</A>
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+Regards,
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It provides the following standard headers (quoting):
+</I>&gt;<i> - Description or Subject (required)
+</I>&gt;<i> - Origin (required except if Author is present)
+</I>&gt;<i> - Bug-&lt;Vendor&gt; or Bug (optional)
+</I>&gt;<i> - Forwarded (optional)
+</I>&gt;<i>   Any value other than &quot;no&quot; or &quot;not-needed&quot; means that the patch has
+</I>&gt;<i>   been forwarded upstream. Ideally the value is an URL proving that it
+</I>&gt;<i>   has been forwarded and where one can find more information about its
+</I>&gt;<i>   inclusion status.
+</I>&gt;<i> - Author or From (optional)
+</I>&gt;<i> - Reviewed-by or Acked-by (optional)
+</I>&gt;<i> - Last-Update (optional)
+</I>&gt;<i> - Applied-Upstream (optional)
+</I>&gt;<i>   This field can be used to document the fact that the patch has been
+</I>&gt;<i>   applied upstream. It may contain the upstream version expected to
+</I>&gt;<i>   contain this patch, or the URL or commit identifier of the upstream
+</I>&gt;<i>   commit (with commit identifiers prefixed with &quot;commit:&quot;, as in the
+</I>&gt;<i>   Origin field), or both separated by a comma and a space.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This specification basically does everything that I need and more.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is some kind of patch-tracking or meta-information used in Mageia?
+</I>One of our policies needs this partly, too:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/KDE4_packaging_policy#Patch_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/KDE4_packaging_policy#Patch_policy</A>
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 04:14, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think we should get rid of that files (which were temporary while
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bootstraping), they are not really helpful
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/dependencies.html">http://check.mageia.org/dependencies.html</A> gives more information
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks Pascal, I was just going to say the same thing.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Speaking of that page, why do a bunch of packages says automake1.4 is missing when we have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> automake1.4?  Also, what do all of those messages about &quot;found with incorrect range&quot; mean?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It doesn't seem so
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at valstar</A> ~]# urpmf --use-distrib
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/ --provides automake1.4
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at valstar</A> ~]#
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> we have automake1.7 and automake providing 1.8 and 1.9, 1.4 seems to
+</I>&gt;<i> no longer be present
+</I>
+Was automake1.4 dropped for a reason?  Should we rebuild it?  Or do all of those packages need to be ported to automake1.7?
+
+&gt;<i> For the incorrect range, an example:
+</I>&gt;<i> calligra-active	calligra-words found with incorrect range ==
+</I>&gt;<i> 12:2.4-0.beta7.1.mga2 (needed == 12:2.4-0.beta6.1.mga2)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> calligra-active requires calligra-words = 12:2.4-0.beta6.1.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> current version of calligra-words is 12:2.4-0.beta7.1.mga2 so
+</I>&gt;<i> calligra-active can not be installed
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> In this case I guess calligra-active was from the previous version of
+</I>&gt;<i> calligra, and the subpackage was removed but either not obsoleted of
+</I>&gt;<i> for some reason not removed from the mirror
+</I>
+Pascal, thank you for the explanation.
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+<A HREF="http://svn.ghostscript.com/ghostscript/tags/urw-fonts-1.0.7pre44/">http://svn.ghostscript.com/ghostscript/tags/urw-fonts-1.0.7pre44/</A>
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+Also, RedHat has changed their version of the package to 2.4, instead of the 2.0 we have now (neither have any correspondence to anything).  Gentoo, to add to the mess is using &quot;2.4.9&quot; to their version, as can be seen here:
+<A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/updates.html">http://check.mageia.org/updates.html</A>
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+Could someone update the urw-fonts to pre44, change the version to (at least) 2.4, and try and sort out this mess?
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+&gt;<i> * Kamil Rytarowski (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've got GHC in our repositories. I think it's a good point to start
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a) preparing policies for Haskell
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> b) considering adaption of Fedora's ghc-rpm-macros
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This will help to include extra Haskell libraries, using better triggers.
+</I>&gt;<i> I created a way to find automatically req/prov for haskell modules in
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you plan to integrate this in Mageia ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>No, not personally. I just need Haskell (GHC) libraries for applications.
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+    <I>Sun Feb 12 01:05:23 CET 2012</I>
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+<A HREF="http://www.ohloh.net/p/procps-ng">http://www.ohloh.net/p/procps-ng</A>
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+Debian has switched to using it, as can be seen here:
+<A HREF="http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/procps/procps_3.3.2-3/changelog">http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/procps/procps_3.3.2-3/changelog</A>
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+    <B>Mahmut Bulut</B> 
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+ghc and ghc-devel be pushed to base repo.
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+12.&#350;ub.2012 02:01 &quot;Kamil Rytarowski&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt; tarihinde &#351;unu yazd&#305;:
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+On 11.02.2012 08:19, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> * Kamil Rytarowski (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!...
+</I>No, not personally. I just need Haskell (GHC) libraries for applications.
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+    <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le 11/02/12 08:57,Dimitrios Glentadakis nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm trying to checkout a package with mgarepo and i have the follow error message:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What could be wrong ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Your mgarepo config is probably not set to anonymous checkout:
+</I>&gt;<i> Follow the first instructions of
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packagers_Howto_start">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packagers_Howto_start</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
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+I dont want anonymous checkout but with my key
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+I've found that we use in myspell-gsc_FR (and now hunspell-gsc) files 
+that are licensed under BY-NC-ND 
+<A HREF="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/">http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/</A>
+Fedora qualifies it as a bad license <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing</A>
+
+Therefore I would put it into nonfree.
+
+What to do with this package? Can we obsolete with a package from 
+Nonfree section (hunspell-gsc in Mga2) a package from Core 
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+&gt;<i> On 11.02.2012 08:19, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * Kamil Rytarowski (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I've got GHC in our repositories. I think it's a good point to start
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a) preparing policies for Haskell
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> b) considering adaption of Fedora's ghc-rpm-macros
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This will help to include extra Haskell libraries, using better triggers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I created a way to find automatically req/prov for haskell modules in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do you plan to integrate this in Mageia ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, not personally. I just need Haskell (GHC) libraries for applications.
+</I>
+It is not related to the compiler. The goal is to automatically find
+module dependencies.
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+Regards.
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+-- 
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+    <B>Michael Scherer</B> 
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+<PRE>Le samedi 11 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 15:22 +0100, Dimitrios Glentadakis a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#931;&#940;&#946;&#946;&#945;&#964;&#959; 11 &#934;&#949;&#946;&#961;&#959;&#965;&#940;&#961;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2012 15:00:42 nicolas vigier &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#931;&#940;&#946;&#946;&#945;&#964;&#959; 11 &#934;&#949;&#946;&#961;&#959;&#965;&#940;&#961;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2012 14:41:59 nicolas vigier &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; What could be wrong ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Did you try to do a checkout on packages svn repository without mgarepo
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; to see if that works ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; it works, it gave me this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A> mgarepo]$ svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Password:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Password:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It shouldn't ask you for password if you uploaded your ssh key on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> in <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A> i choose sshPublicKey i add my key , i clic ok but there is no field added  - (also i did it a second time and i did nt see that was the field Mobile, and i added in the mobile field. Now impossible to delete it. I have the message page not fount) - 
+</I>
+&gt;<i>From ldap.log :
+</I>
+Feb 11 15:03:50 valstar slapd[2240]: conn=1159066 op=3 MOD
+dn=&quot;uid=dglent,ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org&quot;
+Feb 11 15:03:50 valstar slapd[2240]: conn=1159066 op=3 MOD
+attr=sshPublicKey
+Feb 11 15:03:50 valstar slapd[2240]: conn=1159066 op=3 RESULT tag=103
+err=19 text=modify breaks constraint on sshPublicKey
+
+Are you sure that you used the complete 
+It seems that the key that was uploaded was not in the good format. Can
+you make sure that you used the complete ssh key, ie the whole line, not
+just the binary encoded blurb in the middle. Without the beginning,
+( ie ssh-rsa/ssh-dsa ), there is no way it would work, since openssh
+cannot guess the format and the algo to use.
+
+So try again by using the complete line : 
+ssh-rsa XXXx....XXXX <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">foo at example.org</A>
+
+And if this solve the problem, could mentors please ensure that newer
+packagers actually really understand how ssh is supposed to work before
+directing them to sysadmin for diagnosing the same problem over and
+over?
+
+( alternative version : code proper error reporting in identity )
+( 2nd alternative version : add a foolproof mgarepo command to create
+and upload keys into our ldap )
+-- 
+Michael Scherer
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+&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I've found that we use in myspell-gsc_FR (and now hunspell-gsc) files 
+</I>&gt;<i> that are licensed under BY-NC-ND 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/">http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/3.0/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora qualifies it as a bad license <A HREF="http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing">http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Licensing</A>
+</I>
+Yes, the NC would prevent someone from selling the cd without explicit
+permission from upstream. This include selling the cd for a symbolic
+price ( like 1 euro ) for a free software fair.
+
+( see <A HREF="http://freedomdefined.org/Licenses/NC">http://freedomdefined.org/Licenses/NC</A> )
+
+&gt;<i> Therefore I would put it into nonfree.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> What to do with this package? Can we obsolete with a package from 
+</I>&gt;<i> Nonfree section (hunspell-gsc in Mga2) a package from Core 
+</I>&gt;<i> (myspell-gsc_FR in Mga1)?
+</I>
+I guess, yes. If we really want to be clean, we should put obsoletes in
+mageia-release or somewhere like that.
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+<PRE>Am 12.02.2012 11:16, schrieb Michael Scherer:
+&gt;<i> Are you sure that you used the complete
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems that the key that was uploaded was not in the good format. Can
+</I>&gt;<i> you make sure that you used the complete ssh key, ie the whole line, not
+</I>&gt;<i> just the binary encoded blurb in the middle. Without the beginning,
+</I>&gt;<i> ( ie ssh-rsa/ssh-dsa ), there is no way it would work, since openssh
+</I>&gt;<i> cannot guess the format and the algo to use.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So try again by using the complete line :
+</I>&gt;<i> ssh-rsa XXXx....XXXX <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">foo at example.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And if this solve the problem, could mentors please ensure that newer
+</I>&gt;<i> packagers actually really understand how ssh is supposed to work before
+</I>&gt;<i> directing them to sysadmin for diagnosing the same problem over and
+</I>&gt;<i> over?
+</I>Guilty as charged, but actually Dimitrios was a bit faster then me and I 
+didn't have that much time yesterday to try and work this out.
+
+&gt;<i> ( alternative version : code proper error reporting in identity )
+</I>&gt;<i> ( 2nd alternative version : add a foolproof mgarepo command to create
+</I>&gt;<i> and upload keys into our ldap )
+</I>If any of those two should be done, including it in identity would be 
+the better way, I think.
+We have people aside from packagers with svn commit rights, e.g. the 
+i18n team commiters.
+As an idea: instead of that input field or as an alternative provide a 
+possibility to upload the pubkey file?
+This well make sure, no half keys are uploaded.
+
+Oliver
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+&gt;<i> Le samedi 11 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 15:22 +0100, Dimitrios Glentadakis a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#931;&#940;&#946;&#946;&#945;&#964;&#959; 11 &#934;&#949;&#946;&#961;&#959;&#965;&#940;&#961;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2012 15:00:42 nicolas vigier &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#931;&#940;&#946;&#946;&#945;&#964;&#959; 11 &#934;&#949;&#946;&#961;&#959;&#965;&#940;&#961;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2012 14:41:59 nicolas vigier &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; What could be wrong ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Did you try to do a checkout on packages svn repository without mgarepo
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; to see if that works ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; it works, it gave me this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A> mgarepo]$ svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Password:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Password:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; It shouldn't ask you for password if you uploaded your ssh key on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A> i choose sshPublicKey i add my key , i clic ok but there is no field added  - (also i did it a second time and i did nt see that was the field Mobile, and i added in the mobile field. Now impossible to delete it. I have the message page not fount) - 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;From ldap.log :
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Feb 11 15:03:50 valstar slapd[2240]: conn=1159066 op=3 MOD
+</I>&gt;<i> dn=&quot;uid=dglent,ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> Feb 11 15:03:50 valstar slapd[2240]: conn=1159066 op=3 MOD
+</I>&gt;<i> attr=sshPublicKey
+</I>&gt;<i> Feb 11 15:03:50 valstar slapd[2240]: conn=1159066 op=3 RESULT tag=103
+</I>&gt;<i> err=19 text=modify breaks constraint on sshPublicKey
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Are you sure that you used the complete 
+</I>&gt;<i> It seems that the key that was uploaded was not in the good format. Can
+</I>&gt;<i> you make sure that you used the complete ssh key, ie the whole line, not
+</I>&gt;<i> just the binary encoded blurb in the middle. Without the beginning,
+</I>&gt;<i> ( ie ssh-rsa/ssh-dsa ), there is no way it would work, since openssh
+</I>&gt;<i> cannot guess the format and the algo to use.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So try again by using the complete line : 
+</I>&gt;<i> ssh-rsa XXXx....XXXX <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">foo at example.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And if this solve the problem, could mentors please ensure that newer
+</I>&gt;<i> packagers actually really understand how ssh is supposed to work before
+</I>&gt;<i> directing them to sysadmin for diagnosing the same problem over and
+</I>&gt;<i> over?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> ( alternative version : code proper error reporting in identity )
+</I>&gt;<i> ( 2nd alternative version : add a foolproof mgarepo command to create
+</I>&gt;<i> and upload keys into our ldap )
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
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+i tried it again without success.  
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+Dimitrios Glentadakis
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 08:11:17PM +0100, Florian Hubold wrote:
+&gt;<i> One of our policies needs this partly, too:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/KDE4_packaging_policy#Patch_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/KDE4_packaging_policy#Patch_policy</A>
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+Ah, cool.
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+With DEP-3, it is not clear to me if you should either have email-like
+headers (no # in front), or put comments in front of them.
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+Some patches have git (email-like) headers. So, I'm going to email-like
+myself as well.
+
+I've added the status to 3 abiword patches. All actually were filed
+upstream already. However, one lacked a patch, so upstream didn't
+commit. I'm rebuilding abiword to make sure I didn't break anything...
+but normally I won't rebuild just because the meta-information changes
+(makes no sense to rebuild for that IMO).
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+&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;<i>     2935
+</I>&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;<i>     julien
+</I>&gt;<i> Date
+</I>&gt;<i>     2012-02-12 11:53:09 +0100 (Sun, 12 Feb 2012)
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>       Log Message
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+</I>&gt;<i> - fix broken translation (patch from Jarom?\195?\173r C?\195?\161p?\195?\173k)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>It's nice when people fix things, but it would be even nicer, if they 
+talked about it first.
+I am afraid, all those &quot;fixes&quot; will be lost again, as soon as any of the 
+i18n people commit new translations of the &quot;fixed&quot; files.
+
+Mostly those fixes are needed because of transifex 1.0 faulty behaviour, 
+and it is useless work to do those fixes before we update to tx 1.2 or 
+1.3 (which should be soon).
+If you see such problems on translation files, wouldn't it be a good 
+idea to ask i18n team before?
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+&gt;<i> D Morgan asked us to say if removal of .la files broke anything.  It breaks
+</I>&gt;<i> xpdf, and I don't know if it's fixable.  xpdf needs libXt.la to build
+</I>&gt;<i> libxpdf.la, and the xpdf build is heavily dependent on libxpdf.la.  See
+</I>&gt;<i> xpdf-3.03-shared.diff for example.
+</I>
+I also had to bring back .la files to pinball package :
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+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=205625">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages?view=revision&amp;revision=205625</A>
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+&gt;<i> Am 12.02.2012 11:16, schrieb Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Are you sure that you used the complete
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It seems that the key that was uploaded was not in the good format. Can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; you make sure that you used the complete ssh key, ie the whole line, not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; just the binary encoded blurb in the middle. Without the beginning,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( ie ssh-rsa/ssh-dsa ), there is no way it would work, since openssh
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; cannot guess the format and the algo to use.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So try again by using the complete line :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ssh-rsa XXXx....XXXX <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">foo at example.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And if this solve the problem, could mentors please ensure that newer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packagers actually really understand how ssh is supposed to work before
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; directing them to sysadmin for diagnosing the same problem over and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; over?
+</I>&gt;<i> Guilty as charged, but actually Dimitrios was a bit faster then me and I 
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't have that much time yesterday to try and work this out.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( alternative version : code proper error reporting in identity )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( 2nd alternative version : add a foolproof mgarepo command to create
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and upload keys into our ldap )
+</I>&gt;<i> If any of those two should be done, including it in identity would be 
+</I>&gt;<i> the better way, I think.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> We have people aside from packagers with svn commit rights, e.g. the 
+</I>&gt;<i> i18n team commiters.
+</I>
+Indeed. 
+
+But we can do both, and I think that adding a command to mgarepo would
+help to enforce a better security practice ( ie, few people know that
+using ssh-agent can cause issue if someone is root on the server that
+you connect too, since this person can reuse your key by hijacking the
+agent ).
+
+&gt;<i> As an idea: instead of that input field or as an alternative provide a 
+</I>&gt;<i> possibility to upload the pubkey file?
+</I>&gt;<i> This well make sure, no half keys are uploaded.
+</I>
+In fact, we already make sure that no half key are uploaded ( hence the
+lack of key after upload ), we just do not signal it.
+
+And having a specific input would be slightly more complex ( but doable
+), and less generic ( and I think Buchan wanted to avoid that, but maybe
+I am wrong ).
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+&gt;<i> &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#922;&#965;&#961;&#953;&#945;&#954;&#942; 12 &#934;&#949;&#946;&#961;&#959;&#965;&#940;&#961;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2012 11:16:26 Michael Scherer &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le samedi 11 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 15:22 +0100, Dimitrios Glentadakis a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#931;&#940;&#946;&#946;&#945;&#964;&#959; 11 &#934;&#949;&#946;&#961;&#959;&#965;&#940;&#961;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2012 15:00:42 nicolas vigier &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#931;&#940;&#946;&#946;&#945;&#964;&#959; 11 &#934;&#949;&#946;&#961;&#959;&#965;&#940;&#961;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2012 14:41:59 nicolas vigier &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; What could be wrong ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Did you try to do a checkout on packages svn repository without mgarepo
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; to see if that works ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; it works, it gave me this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A> mgarepo]$ svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Password:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Password:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; It shouldn't ask you for password if you uploaded your ssh key on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; in <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A> i choose sshPublicKey i add my key , i clic ok but there is no field added  - (also i did it a second time and i did nt see that was the field Mobile, and i added in the mobile field. Now impossible to delete it. I have the message page not fount) - 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;From ldap.log :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Feb 11 15:03:50 valstar slapd[2240]: conn=1159066 op=3 MOD
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; dn=&quot;uid=dglent,ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Feb 11 15:03:50 valstar slapd[2240]: conn=1159066 op=3 MOD
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; attr=sshPublicKey
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Feb 11 15:03:50 valstar slapd[2240]: conn=1159066 op=3 RESULT tag=103
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; err=19 text=modify breaks constraint on sshPublicKey
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Are you sure that you used the complete 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It seems that the key that was uploaded was not in the good format. Can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; you make sure that you used the complete ssh key, ie the whole line, not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; just the binary encoded blurb in the middle. Without the beginning,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( ie ssh-rsa/ssh-dsa ), there is no way it would work, since openssh
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; cannot guess the format and the algo to use.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So try again by using the complete line : 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ssh-rsa XXXx....XXXX <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">foo at example.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And if this solve the problem, could mentors please ensure that newer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packagers actually really understand how ssh is supposed to work before
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; directing them to sysadmin for diagnosing the same problem over and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; over?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( alternative version : code proper error reporting in identity )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( 2nd alternative version : add a foolproof mgarepo command to create
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and upload keys into our ldap )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> i tried it again without success.  
+</I>
+What did you tried exactly ?
+
+( cause I see that something looking like a ssh key ended in the mobile
+ldap field, but I also see the same constraint violation on sshKey that
+I save earlier, but i am rather sure to have tested the change and seen
+people able to upload keys before )
+
+-- 
+Michael Scherer
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+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 12 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 11:38 +0100, Dimitrios Glentadakis a
+</I>&gt;<i> &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#922;&#965;&#961;&#953;&#945;&#954;&#942; 12 &#934;&#949;&#946;&#961;&#959;&#965;&#940;&#961;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2012 11:16:26 Michael Scherer &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Le samedi 11 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 15:22 +0100, Dimitrios Glentadakis a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#931;&#940;&#946;&#946;&#945;&#964;&#959; 11 &#934;&#949;&#946;&#961;&#959;&#965;&#940;&#961;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2012 15:00:42 nicolas vigier &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#931;&#940;&#946;&#946;&#945;&#964;&#959; 11 &#934;&#949;&#946;&#961;&#959;&#965;&#940;&#961;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2012 14:41:59 nicolas vigier &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; What could be wrong ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Did you try to do a checkout on packages svn repository without mgarepo
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; to see if that works ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; it works, it gave me this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A> mgarepo]$ svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Password:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Password:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; It shouldn't ask you for password if you uploaded your ssh key on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; in <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A> i choose sshPublicKey i add my key , i clic ok but there is no field added  - (also i did it a second time and i did nt see that was the field Mobile, and i added in the mobile field. Now impossible to delete it. I have the message page not fount) - 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;From ldap.log :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Feb 11 15:03:50 valstar slapd[2240]: conn=1159066 op=3 MOD
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; dn=&quot;uid=dglent,ou=People,dc=mageia,dc=org&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Feb 11 15:03:50 valstar slapd[2240]: conn=1159066 op=3 MOD
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; attr=sshPublicKey
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Feb 11 15:03:50 valstar slapd[2240]: conn=1159066 op=3 RESULT tag=103
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; err=19 text=modify breaks constraint on sshPublicKey
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Are you sure that you used the complete 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; It seems that the key that was uploaded was not in the good format. Can
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; you make sure that you used the complete ssh key, ie the whole line, not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; just the binary encoded blurb in the middle. Without the beginning,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ( ie ssh-rsa/ssh-dsa ), there is no way it would work, since openssh
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; cannot guess the format and the algo to use.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; So try again by using the complete line : 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ssh-rsa XXXx....XXXX <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">foo at example.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; And if this solve the problem, could mentors please ensure that newer
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; packagers actually really understand how ssh is supposed to work before
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; directing them to sysadmin for diagnosing the same problem over and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; over?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ( alternative version : code proper error reporting in identity )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ( 2nd alternative version : add a foolproof mgarepo command to create
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; and upload keys into our ldap )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i tried it again without success.  
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> What did you tried exactly ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> ( cause I see that something looking like a ssh key ended in the mobile
+</I>&gt;<i> ldap field, but I also see the same constraint violation on sshKey that
+</I>&gt;<i> I save earlier, but i am rather sure to have tested the change and seen
+</I>&gt;<i> people able to upload keys before )
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+i added the complete line of the file ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub
+it starts with : ssh-dss AAAAB3NzaC1kc3MAAACBALDU4.........ygi2efzDPmBw== <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A>
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+Something that i did before too but as it did nt work i tried multiple times (also once i tried to added from AAAxx and this is what you saw in the logs probably ) and once i forgot to change the filed label and i added to the mobile filed. Actually i cannot delete this field (mobile) either, i have the error message &quot;page not found&quot;
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+&#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#922;&#965;&#961;&#953;&#945;&#954;&#942; 12 &#934;&#949;&#946;&#961;&#959;&#965;&#940;&#961;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2012 12:47:00 Michael Scherer &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le dimanche 12 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 11:38 +0100, Dimitrios Glentadakis a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; i tried it again without success.  
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What did you tried exactly ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( cause I see that something looking like a ssh key ended in the mobile
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ldap field, but I also see the same constraint violation on sshKey that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I save earlier, but i am rather sure to have tested the change and seen
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; people able to upload keys before )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> i added the complete line of the file ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub
+</I>&gt;<i> it starts with : ssh-dss AAAAB3NzaC1kc3MAAACBALDU4.........ygi2efzDPmBw== <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A>
+</I>
+Ok, so openssh use ssh-dss for dsa key, and ssh-rsa for rsa keys ( how
+intuitive ). The regexp I used to validate key was wrong, can you try
+again a few minute, just the time that I fix this ?
+
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Something that i did before too but as it did nt work i tried multiple times (also once i tried to added from 
+</I>&gt;<i> AAAxx and this is what you saw in the logs probably ) and once i forgot to change the filed label and i added 
+</I>&gt;<i> to the mobile filed. Actually i cannot delete this field (mobile) either, i have the error message &quot;page not found&quot;
+</I>
+I will remove it from ldap.
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+    <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 12 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 12:55 +0100, Dimitrios Glentadakis a
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Le dimanche 12 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 11:38 +0100, Dimitrios Glentadakis a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; i tried it again without success.  
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; What did you tried exactly ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ( cause I see that something looking like a ssh key ended in the mobile
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ldap field, but I also see the same constraint violation on sshKey that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I save earlier, but i am rather sure to have tested the change and seen
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; people able to upload keys before )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i added the complete line of the file ~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; it starts with : ssh-dss AAAAB3NzaC1kc3MAAACBALDU4.........ygi2efzDPmBw== <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Ok, so openssh use ssh-dss for dsa key, and ssh-rsa for rsa keys ( how
+</I>&gt;<i> intuitive ). The regexp I used to validate key was wrong, can you try
+</I>&gt;<i> again a few minute, just the time that I fix this ?
+</I>
+ok, 'i ve just done a successful checkout with mgarepo
+
+Thanks
+
+
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Something that i did before too but as it did nt work i tried multiple times (also once i tried to added from 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; AAAxx and this is what you saw in the logs probably ) and once i forgot to change the filed label and i added 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to the mobile filed. Actually i cannot delete this field (mobile) either, i have the error message &quot;page not found&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I will remove it from ldap.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> &gt; Something that i did before too but as it did nt work i tried multiple times (also once i tried to added from 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; AAAxx and this is what you saw in the logs probably ) and once i forgot to change the filed label and i added 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to the mobile filed. Actually i cannot delete this field (mobile) either, i have the error message &quot;page not found&quot;
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+</I>&gt;<i> turn off NumLock in GNOME! Neither with the NumLock key itself, nor with
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+&gt;<i> There is a fork of procps called procps-ng, which I think lives here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ohloh.net/p/procps-ng">http://www.ohloh.net/p/procps-ng</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Debian has switched to using it, as can be seen here:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/procps/procps_3.3.2-3/changelog">http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/procps/procps_3.3.2-3/changelog</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Should we switch to it as well, or stick with procps?
+</I>
+i have not yet looked, but what fedora did ?
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 1:05 AM, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is a fork of procps called procps-ng, which I think lives here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ohloh.net/p/procps-ng">http://www.ohloh.net/p/procps-ng</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Debian has switched to using it, as can be seen here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/procps/procps_3.3.2-3/changelog">http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/procps/procps_3.3.2-3/changelog</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Should we switch to it as well, or stick with procps?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i have not yet looked, but what fedora did ?
+</I>
+<A HREF="https://gitorious.org/procps">https://gitorious.org/procps</A> says &quot;Debian, Fedora and openSUSE fork of procps.&quot;
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 16:13, D.Morgan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dmorganec at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 1:05 AM, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There is a fork of procps called procps-ng, which I think lives here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.ohloh.net/p/procps-ng">http://www.ohloh.net/p/procps-ng</A>
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Debian has switched to using it, as can be seen here:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/procps/procps_3.3.2-3/changelog">http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/p/procps/procps_3.3.2-3/changelog</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Should we switch to it as well, or stick with procps?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> i have not yet looked, but what fedora did ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://gitorious.org/procps">https://gitorious.org/procps</A> says &quot;Debian, Fedora and openSUSE fork of procps.&quot;
+</I>
+Yes, and the Fedora git shows they have switched to it, although they forgot to update the version number.
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+Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> Am 12.02.2012 11:53, schrieb <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>:
+</I>(...)
+&gt;<i> It's nice when people fix things, but it would be even nicer, if they 
+</I>&gt;<i> talked about it first.
+</I>&gt;<i> I am afraid, all those &quot;fixes&quot; will be lost again, as soon as any of the 
+</I>&gt;<i> i18n people commit new translations of the &quot;fixed&quot; files.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Mostly those fixes are needed because of transifex 1.0 faulty behaviour, 
+</I>&gt;<i> and it is useless work to do those fixes before we update to tx 1.2 or 
+</I>&gt;<i> 1.3 (which should be soon).
+</I>&gt;<i> If you see such problems on translation files, wouldn't it be a good 
+</I>&gt;<i> idea to ask i18n team before?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+We talked about it in the bugreport
+( <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4394">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4394</A> ) but it's true i18n team is
+not CC. Sorry. Good to know it's going to be fixed correctly in Transifex :)
+(btw, is there a description of the problem somewhere?)
+In the meantime, we have something which works now.
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+&gt;<i> Yes, and the Fedora git shows they have switched to it, although they
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+&gt;<i> * Kamil Rytarowski (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've got GHC in our repositories. I think it's a good point to start
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a) preparing policies for Haskell
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> b) considering adaption of Fedora's ghc-rpm-macros
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This will help to include extra Haskell libraries, using better triggers.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I created a way to find automatically req/prov for haskell modules in
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you plan to integrate this in Mageia ?
+</I>
+It'd be great if we could integrate this in Mageia: your package
+(haskell-cabalrpmdeps) however does not build currently. Can you have a
+look?
+<A HREF="http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/cabalrpmdeps/0.0.4/logs/failure/ghc-7.0">http://hackage.haskell.org/packages/archive/cabalrpmdeps/0.0.4/logs/failure/ghc-7.0</A>
+Thanks a lot,
+-- 
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+&gt;<i> tv &lt;tv&gt; 1:3.3.2-4.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 208340
+</I>&gt;<i> - Suggests drakconf in minimal package
+</I>
+Why as part of task-gnome*, shouldn't it be a require elsewhere?
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+&gt;&gt;<i> - Suggests drakconf in minimal package
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why as part of task-gnome*, shouldn't it be a require elsewhere?
+</I>
+1) for symmetry with task-kde4-minimal
+    It should be done in task-{lxde,xfce,..} of course
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+2) so that people performing minimal install then installing task-foobar
+    got mcc too
+    (it's done at installer time through rpmsrate which is not used after
+    installation by urpmi -- else nothing will pull it[1])
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+3) because that's the right place to do it
+
+Note it's a suggests, not a hard requires
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+[1] See:
+urpmf --requires drakconf|grep ':drakconf'|grep -v drakconf-icons
+urpmf --suggests drakconf|grep ':drakconf'|grep -v drakconf-icons
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+&gt;<i> On 13 February 2012 10:05, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - Suggests drakconf in minimal package
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Why as part of task-gnome*, shouldn't it be a require elsewhere?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) for symmetry with task-kde4-minimal
+</I>&gt;<i>     It should be done in task-{lxde,xfce,..} of course
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) so that people performing minimal install then installing task-foobar
+</I>&gt;<i>     got mcc too
+</I>&gt;<i>     (it's done at installer time through rpmsrate which is not used after
+</I>&gt;<i>     installation by urpmi -- else nothing will pull it[1])
+</I>
+It cannot be put somewhere else? Just wondering, I thought the
+installation also was able to look at other things than just strictly
+task-gnome-minimal (e.g. a generic &quot;Graphical Desktop&quot;).
+
+Regarding minimal installation: if you really do a minimal installation,
+then install GNOME. IMO, I would expect only GNOME related things, but
+maybe that is more my assumption on why someone would do a minimal
+installation.
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+&gt;<i> 3) because that's the right place to do it
+</I>
+To me it doesn't seem like the logical place. GNOME doesn't require
+drakconf, nor does KDE. It is something part of the distro. So as soon
+as anything graphical is installed, you'll likely want it.
+
+To be clear: Not objecting or suggesting to change; clearly you have
+more experience. Just wondering and trying to learn :)
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+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;<i> 1) for symmetry with task-kde4-minimal
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; It should be done in task-{lxde,xfce,..} of course
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2) so that people performing minimal install then installing task-foobar
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; got mcc too
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; (it's done at installer time through rpmsrate which is not used after
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; installation by urpmi -- else nothing will pull it[1])
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It cannot be put somewhere else? Just wondering, I thought the
+</I>&gt;<i> installation also was able to look at other things than just strictly
+</I>&gt;<i> task-gnome-minimal (e.g. a generic &quot;Graphical Desktop&quot;).
+</I>
+Yes through rpmsrate, and again urpmi doesn't use it
+
+&gt;<i> Regarding minimal installation: if you really do a minimal installation,
+</I>&gt;<i> then install GNOME. IMO, I would expect only GNOME related things, but
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe that is more my assumption on why someone would do a minimal
+</I>&gt;<i> installation.
+</I>
+AFAIC one should get the same experience as when choosing the desktop
+during installation.
+What's more as it is a suggest, nothing prevent it to be removed.
+
+And it makes testing through urpmi more predictive regarding the installer
+
+We've move quite a lot of things from rpmsrate into task* over the years.
+That's just one more.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 3) because that's the right place to do it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To me it doesn't seem like the logical place. GNOME doesn't require
+</I>&gt;<i> drakconf, nor does KDE. It is something part of the distro. So as soon
+</I>&gt;<i> as anything graphical is installed, you'll likely want it.
+</I>
+Again, this is not a strict require but a suggest
+
+What's more we don't have a better place and strictly speaking:
+1) task-gnome* doesn't actually require any of the packages it either requires
+    or suggests
+2) a GNOME desktop doesn't really require a cd burning tool or a browser or
+    whatever in order to show up &amp; work...
+   so the same could be said to most requires &amp; suggests.
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+&gt;<i> To be clear: Not objecting or suggesting to change; clearly you have
+</I>&gt;<i> more experience. Just wondering and trying to learn :)
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+<PRE>On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 11:04:21AM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> AFAIC one should get the same experience as when choosing the desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> during installation.
+</I>&gt;<i> What's more as it is a suggest, nothing prevent it to be removed.
+</I>
+Ok, that I understand :)
+
+&gt;<i> Again, this is not a strict require but a suggest
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> What's more we don't have a better place and strictly speaking:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) task-gnome* doesn't actually require any of the packages it either requires
+</I>&gt;<i>     or suggests
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) a GNOME desktop doesn't really require a cd burning tool or a browser or
+</I>&gt;<i>     whatever in order to show up &amp; work...
+</I>&gt;<i>    so the same could be said to most requires &amp; suggests.
+</I>
+To me a GNOME desktop is whatever www.gnome.org says is part of GNOME. I
+don't get task-gnome-minimal :P  (after previous discussions here I
+learned to ignore that and use task-gnome:)
+
+I know drakconf is a suggests, etc, just thought it would be a suggests
+elsewhere (another task-*, maybe *x11* something, etc). E.g.
+
+  task-kde4-minimal -&gt; task-graphical
+  task-gnome-minimal -&gt; task-graphical
+
+  task-graphical -&gt; drakconf, etc
+
+Then you'd only have to add something like drakconf in one place. The
+task-graphical is a ugly though. It wouldn't make sense to install
+&quot;task-graphical&quot; (you'd only get drakconf and some other stuff).
+
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+That said, I fully understand the &quot;same experience as when choosing the
+desktop during installation&quot;. So let's stop the discussion :)
+
+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 13/02/12 11:28 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> I know drakconf is a suggests, etc, just thought it would be a suggests
+</I>&gt;<i> elsewhere (another task-*, maybe *x11* something, etc). E.g.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>   task-kde4-minimal -&gt; task-graphical
+</I>&gt;<i>   task-gnome-minimal -&gt; task-graphical
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>   task-graphical -&gt; drakconf, etc
+</I>
+Just FWIW, I also like this idea (tho' fully understand if it's decided
+not to have YATP (Yet Another Task Package))
+
+I also like the name &quot;graphical&quot; as it is future proofing against
+X11-&gt;Wayland transition and also uses the same naming as systemd targets
+(so if there is a non-graphical equiv of this then task-multi-user would
+be my preferred naming :D)
+
+&gt;<i> Then you'd only have to add something like drakconf in one place. The
+</I>&gt;<i> task-graphical is a ugly though. It wouldn't make sense to install
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;task-graphical&quot; (you'd only get drakconf and some other stuff).
+</I>
+I don't personally think it's that ugly. You may only want e.g. a MythTV
+or XBMC etc. media frontend in which case a full blown DE is simply not
+needed, but a graphical display certainly is.
+
+Cheers
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+    <B>Buchan Milne</B> 
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+<PRE>On Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:22:52 Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+&gt;<i> &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#931;&#940;&#946;&#946;&#945;&#964;&#959; 11 &#934;&#949;&#946;&#961;&#959;&#965;&#940;&#961;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2012 15:00:42 nicolas vigier &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#931;&#940;&#946;&#946;&#945;&#964;&#959; 11 &#934;&#949;&#946;&#961;&#959;&#965;&#940;&#961;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2012 14:41:59 nicolas vigier &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; What could be wrong ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Did you try to do a checkout on packages svn repository without
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; mgarepo to see if that works ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; it works, it gave me this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A> mgarepo]$ svn co
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current</A> Password:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Password:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It shouldn't ask you for password if you uploaded your ssh key on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> in <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A> i choose sshPublicKey i add my key , i clic
+</I>&gt;<i> ok but there is no field added
+</I>
+Hmm, works for me on my unprivileged test account.
+
+Was any error message displayed?
+
+&gt;<i> - (also i did it a second time and i did
+</I>&gt;<i> nt see that was the field Mobile, and i added in the mobile field. Now
+</I>&gt;<i> impossible to delete it. I have the message page not fount) -
+</I>
+The sshPublicKey attribute is currently present, with this value:
+ssh-dss 
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 
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A>
+
+I have deleted the 'mobile' attribute on your account.
+
+I tested with my unprivileged test account, and I could add and remove 
+'mobile' without problems. However, I could not remove an existing 
+sshPublicKey, in which case I get the 'Page not found' message. But I could 
+change the value of the existing sshPublicKey value.
+
+&gt;<i> i tried again to see if the key was applied somehow in the background of
+</I>&gt;<i> the identity.mageia.org but it asks me always for a password
+</I>
+You may want to provide output of ssh-add -l, and 'ssh -v svn.mageia.org' ?
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+Regards,
+Buchan
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+&gt;<i> On 13 February 2012 10:05, Olav Vitters&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Suggests drakconf in minimal package
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why as part of task-gnome*, shouldn't it be a require elsewhere?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) for symmetry with task-kde4-minimal
+</I>
+to clarify, &quot;Suggests: drakconf&quot; is a valid and real dependency in KDE's 
+install because the digital clock widget uses drakclock to set date and 
+time when the user ask &quot;Adjust Date and Time&quot;.
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+regards,
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and David Walser at 05/02/12 17:59 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 08/10/11 20:05 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 8 October 2011 19:35, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I've just pushed some changes that disable OSS sound under PulseAudio
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sound profile.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If you want to use OSS apps with PulseAudio, please install &quot;ossp&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> package which I've also just submitted.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think ultimately we'll disable ALSA OSS emulation completely and use
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ossp in both PA and non-PA modes but I hear that the non-PA usage isn't
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> quite as nice, so I'm holding off doing this just yet.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> then task-pa should suggests ossp...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm undecided about this. I'm not sure if the default setup should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> include OSS sound support or not. Perhaps it would be better left as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> something that users install if they need it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As we'll eventually have to go through all the packages that require
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> soundwrapper, perhaps we could either:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a) Replace the soundwrapper require with a ossp require.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> b) Patch soundwrapper such that it's a noop if osspd is running and make
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it require ossp.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The latter would mean less churn on packages, but it's arguably just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> delaying the inevitable work of doing it eventually.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thoughts?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I've released and uploaded a new version of soundwrapper (first one in 4 years :o) that is a no-op if osspd is running.
+</I>
+
+Nice one David! Thank you so much :)
+
+I fixed the ACL issues in osspd the other week, so users should be able
+to use the /dev/dsp device quite happily now without any hacks.
+
+There are still some experimental patches (to cuse, kernel and osspd
+IIRC) that will enable mmap support which *should* be the final missing
+link for full OSS support in some games.
+
+At some point after mga2 we might want to consider dropping oss support
+fully, except via osspd, and thus soundwrapper might eventually be
+unneeded... but that discussion certainly doesn't need to happen today
+and it's not really a problem either way in my opinion - just a matter
+of how &quot;progressive&quot; we want to be :)
+
+Cheers
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and nicolas vigier at 06/02/12 14:57 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> While updating youri and iurt packages yesterday I noticed that it's
+</I>&gt;<i> not easy to make new versions of mageia software that we have on svn
+</I>&gt;<i> soft repository, and each of them has different makefile rules to
+</I>&gt;<i> generate tarballs or sometimes update packages. Most versions are not
+</I>&gt;<i> tagged because you have to write a long command line to do it. So in
+</I>&gt;<i> the train from fosdem yesterday I created a small script to tag versions,
+</I>&gt;<i> create tarballs and publish them on mageia mirrors, for the software on
+</I>&gt;<i> svn soft repository.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> You can install it with mgasoft package on cauldron.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> To tag a new version :
+</I>&gt;<i> $ mgasoft tag [name] [version]
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> To create a tarball :
+</I>&gt;<i> $ mgasoft tar [name] [version]
+</I>&gt;<i> Or a tarball from trunk, for testing :
+</I>&gt;<i> $ mgasoft tar [name] trunk
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> To publish a tarball on mageia mirrors :
+</I>&gt;<i> $ mgasoft publish [name] [version]
+</I>&gt;<i> This will create this file on mirrors :
+</I>&gt;<i> /software/[name]/[name]-[version].tar.xz
+</I>
+Nice :)
+
+As a sometime hacker on these bits of code, I did get a bit confused
+about the variations. This will certainly help.
+
+Good work!
+
+Col
+
+
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>Le 13/02/2012 13:00, Buchan Milne a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> You may want to provide output of ssh-add -l, and 'ssh -v svn.mageia.org' ?
+</I>Which ought to be given as first debugging advice: as long as direct ssh 
+access to svn.mageia.org doesn't result in an explicit 'you are not 
+allowed to log in' message, ssh authentication doesn't work. Testing 
+through another software layer, such as subversion or mgarepo, is 
+perfectly useless in this case.
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+And if the goal is to make sure key-based authentication is used, 
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+    <B>Dimitrios Glentadakis</B> 
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+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net</A>&gt; &#941;&#947;&#961;&#945;&#968;&#949;:
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+&gt;<i> On Saturday, 11 February 2012 16:22:52 Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#931;&#940;&#946;&#946;&#945;&#964;&#959; 11 &#934;&#949;&#946;&#961;&#959;&#965;&#940;&#961;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2012 15:00:42 nicolas vigier &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &#931;&#964;&#953;&#962; &#931;&#940;&#946;&#946;&#945;&#964;&#959; 11 &#934;&#949;&#946;&#961;&#959;&#965;&#940;&#961;&#953;&#959;&#962; 2012 14:41:59 nicolas vigier &#947;&#961;&#940;&#968;&#945;&#964;&#949;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; On Sat, 11 Feb 2012, Dimitrios Glentadakis wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; What could be wrong ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Did you try to do a checkout on packages svn repository without
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; mgarepo to see if that works ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/current</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; it works, it gave me this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A> mgarepo]$ svn co
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/currentPassword:">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/null/currentPassword:</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Password:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; It shouldn't ask you for password if you uploaded your ssh key on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in <A HREF="https://identity.mageia.org/">https://identity.mageia.org/</A> i choose sshPublicKey i add my key , i
+</I>&gt;<i> clic
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ok but there is no field added
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm, works for me on my unprivileged test account.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Was any error message displayed?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - (also i did it a second time and i did
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; nt see that was the field Mobile, and i added in the mobile field. Now
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; impossible to delete it. I have the message page not fount) -
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The sshPublicKey attribute is currently present, with this value:
+</I>&gt;<i> ssh-dss
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 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
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dglent at localhost</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have deleted the 'mobile' attribute on your account.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I tested with my unprivileged test account, and I could add and remove
+</I>&gt;<i> 'mobile' without problems. However, I could not remove an existing
+</I>&gt;<i> sshPublicKey, in which case I get the 'Page not found' message. But I could
+</I>&gt;<i> change the value of the existing sshPublicKey value.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i tried again to see if the key was applied somehow in the background of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the identity.mageia.org but it asks me always for a password
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You may want to provide output of ssh-add -l, and 'ssh -v svn.mageia.org'
+</I>&gt;<i> ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Buchan
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
+After the modification that Michael did, my key was accepted
+And the mobile field issue is ok now, after used the update button instead
+of add/delete
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+* i think you did nt have a previous message which i said that the both
+fields issues are solved
+
+
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+<PRE>On 06.02.2012 16:57, nicolas vigier wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> While updating youri and iurt packages yesterday I noticed that it's
+</I>&gt;<i> not easy to make new versions of mageia software that we have on svn
+</I>&gt;<i> soft repository, and each of them has different makefile rules to
+</I>&gt;<i> generate tarballs or sometimes update packages. Most versions are not
+</I>&gt;<i> tagged because you have to write a long command line to do it. So in
+</I>&gt;<i> the train from fosdem yesterday I created a small script to tag versions,
+</I>&gt;<i> create tarballs and publish them on mageia mirrors, for the software on
+</I>&gt;<i> svn soft repository.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> You can install it with mgasoft package on cauldron.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> To tag a new version :
+</I>&gt;<i> $ mgasoft tag [name] [version]
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> To create a tarball :
+</I>&gt;<i> $ mgasoft tar [name] [version]
+</I>&gt;<i> Or a tarball from trunk, for testing :
+</I>&gt;<i> $ mgasoft tar [name] trunk
+</I>
+As you say, there is some variation in how tarballs are made. How does
+this 'tar' command generate the tarball?
+
+It is common for the &quot;make dist&quot; (or whatever) to package additional
+files not present in SVN to the tarball, such as 'configure' et al or
+'ChangeLog' (generated from SVN), so one can't directly just put the
+trunk directory in the tarball...
+
+&gt;<i> To publish a tarball on mageia mirrors :
+</I>&gt;<i> $ mgasoft publish [name] [version]
+</I>&gt;<i> This will create this file on mirrors :
+</I>&gt;<i> /software/[name]/[name]-[version].tar.xz
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Some things that do not work now :
+</I>&gt;<i>  - software in sub-directories on the svn (like build_system/mgarepo or
+</I>&gt;<i>    build_system/iurt). We can change the script to support this, but it
+</I>&gt;<i>    will become more complicated and slower. Or we can move everything in
+</I>&gt;<i>    the root directory and stop using sub-directories like build_system.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Some things I plan to add :
+</I>&gt;<i>  - gpg signature of the files on mirrors
+</I>&gt;<i>  - upload of the files on binrepo, so you don't need to upload them when
+</I>&gt;<i>    updating the package
+</I>&gt;<i>  - option to download tarball from binrepo instead of generating it (to
+</I>&gt;<i>    create package using the same tarball as on mirrors)
+</I>&gt;<i>  - option to quickly see diff between two versions
+</I>&gt;<i> 
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+&gt;<i> Le 13/02/2012 10:35, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 13 February 2012 10:05, Olav Vitters&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - Suggests drakconf in minimal package
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Why as part of task-gnome*, shouldn't it be a require elsewhere?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1) for symmetry with task-kde4-minimal
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> to clarify, &quot;Suggests: drakconf&quot; is a valid and real dependency in KDE's 
+</I>&gt;<i> install because the digital clock widget uses drakclock to set date and 
+</I>&gt;<i> time when the user ask &quot;Adjust Date and Time&quot;.
+</I>
+Then why is this a suggest ? What happen if it is not here ?
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+&gt;<i> On 13 February 2012 10:05, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - Suggests drakconf in minimal package
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Why as part of task-gnome*, shouldn't it be a require elsewhere?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) for symmetry with task-kde4-minimal
+</I>&gt;<i>     It should be done in task-{lxde,xfce,..} of course
+</I>
+Then it should be documented, because currently, task-* is polluted.
+Since everybody add his pet peeves packages as task-*, that cause the
+same problem that was intended to solve, ie too much choice. People have
+the warm fuzzy feeling of having a selected and taylored set of rpm, but
+that's far from the truth.
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+Also, it abuses suggests and interact in a weird way with auto-orphans
+( or it should be better to say that it make it dangerous for users to
+use the feature, thanks to the lack of semantics for Suggests, coupled
+with lack of clear semantics on task-* and the abuse of the 2nd one by
+the first one coupled with a too simple UI ).
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+&gt;<i> 2) so that people performing minimal install then installing task-foobar
+</I>&gt;<i>     got mcc too
+</I>&gt;<i>     (it's done at installer time through rpmsrate which is not used after
+</I>&gt;<i>     installation by urpmi -- else nothing will pull it[1])
+</I>
+So basically, that's duplication of information ? 
+
+&gt;<i> 3) because that's the right place to do it
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Note it's a suggests, not a hard requires
+</I>
+Suggests semantics are still unclear. For now, that's &quot;let me use this
+to push totally unrelated packages in the default setup because I think
+they should be installed but I have no way to explain why, and they are
+important but not important enough to be documented or selected at
+runtime&quot;. And that's far from being ideal.
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+In fact, the more I can think of, the more I wonder what was the problem
+we wanted to solve with Suggests, and if we really did. The UI is near 0
+and will be for a long time, since there isn't enough expressiveness in
+a rpm tag for that. Advanced users, who are concerned with deps and what
+is installed either remove suggests ( my case, because it pull lots of
+unneeded stuff ), or just do without it for finding related packages
+( because you still need to look on why something is pulled, and you
+cannot really select ( not that asking a 100 questions would be good
+OTOH )).
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+Less advanced users do not care at all about suggests in the best case
+( ie, it solved almost nothing for them ), and end with auto-orphans
+doing weird stuff. It also have a weird interaction model on upgrade
+( like &quot;if task-kde4 is installed, do I want to also pull all suggests,
+even those I removed, or do I want to not do it, and then end with a
+different result than from a fresh installation&quot; )
+
+So I would suggests ( no pun intended ) to just drop them. Keeping them
+make us diverge from upstream, afaik, requires various hack with some
+side effect and extra documentation for almost nothing ( ie, since we
+may not have solved a real problem ), and think to do think another way.
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+<PRE>Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le lundi 13 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 10:35 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 13 February 2012 10:05, Olav Vitters&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Suggests drakconf in minimal package
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>          
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Why as part of task-gnome*, shouldn't it be a require elsewhere?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>        
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1) for symmetry with task-kde4-minimal
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      It should be done in task-{lxde,xfce,..} of course
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;<i> Then it should be documented, because currently, task-* is polluted.
+</I>&gt;<i> Since everybody add his pet peeves packages as task-*, that cause the
+</I>&gt;<i> same problem that was intended to solve, ie too much choice. People have
+</I>&gt;<i> the warm fuzzy feeling of having a selected and taylored set of rpm, but
+</I>&gt;<i> that's far from the truth.
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>
+Right.
+
+&gt;<i> Also, it abuses suggests and interact in a weird way with auto-orphans
+</I>&gt;<i> ( or it should be better to say that it make it dangerous for users to
+</I>&gt;<i> use the feature, thanks to the lack of semantics for Suggests, coupled
+</I>&gt;<i> with lack of clear semantics on task-* and the abuse of the 2nd one by
+</I>&gt;<i> the first one coupled with a too simple UI ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2) so that people performing minimal install then installing task-foobar
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      got mcc too
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      (it's done at installer time through rpmsrate which is not used after
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      installation by urpmi -- else nothing will pull it[1])
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;<i> So basically, that's duplication of information ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3) because that's the right place to do it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Note it's a suggests, not a hard requires
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;<i> Suggests semantics are still unclear. For now, that's &quot;let me use this
+</I>&gt;<i> to push totally unrelated packages in the default setup because I think
+</I>&gt;<i> they should be installed but I have no way to explain why, and they are
+</I>&gt;<i> important but not important enough to be documented or selected at
+</I>&gt;<i> runtime&quot;. And that's far from being ideal.
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>
+I have exactly the same impression.
+It gets messy to clean up unwanted packages.
+
+&gt;<i> In fact, the more I can think of, the more I wonder what was the problem
+</I>&gt;<i> we wanted to solve with Suggests, and if we really did. The UI is near 0
+</I>&gt;<i> and will be for a long time, since there isn't enough expressiveness in
+</I>&gt;<i> a rpm tag for that. Advanced users, who are concerned with deps and what
+</I>&gt;<i> is installed either remove suggests ( my case, because it pull lots of
+</I>&gt;<i> unneeded stuff ), or just do without it for finding related packages
+</I>&gt;<i> ( because you still need to look on why something is pulled, and you
+</I>&gt;<i> cannot really select ( not that asking a 100 questions would be good
+</I>&gt;<i> OTOH )).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Less advanced users do not care at all about suggests in the best case
+</I>&gt;<i> ( ie, it solved almost nothing for them ), and end with auto-orphans
+</I>&gt;<i> doing weird stuff. It also have a weird interaction model on upgrade
+</I>&gt;<i> ( like &quot;if task-kde4 is installed, do I want to also pull all suggests,
+</I>&gt;<i> even those I removed, or do I want to not do it, and then end with a
+</I>&gt;<i> different result than from a fresh installation&quot; )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I would suggests ( no pun intended ) to just drop them. Keeping them
+</I>&gt;<i> make us diverge from upstream, afaik, requires various hack with some
+</I>&gt;<i> side effect and extra documentation for almost nothing ( ie, since we
+</I>&gt;<i> may not have solved a real problem ), and think to do think another way.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>This discussion reminds me of a model I'd like to see for task packages.
+Thinking of rpmdrake.
+Task packages show a tree of the packages to be installed.
+Each required package simply shows a link to its' description.  (As one 
+sees now for required packages.)
+Each suggested package package shows justifying description line, in 
+addition to a link to its' description.  And a check box to deselect the 
+item, so it is not installed.
+
+So for example we wouldn't need a separate task-gnome and 
+task-gnome-minimal, since task-gnome would have everything more than 
+minimal as an option (or suggest).
+
+We would have to have some means to indicate suggests already installed, 
+among other factors.
+
+Although I see this model as primarily useful for task packages, it 
+could apply to any package with requires or suggests.
+The concept is not new, it at least used to exist in the Microsoft 
+environment for larger packages.
+
+Just an idea :)
+
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+Andr&#233;
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+<PRE>Le 13/02/2012 16:40, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le lundi 13 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 13:19 +0100, Luc Menut a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 13/02/2012 10:35, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 13 February 2012 10:05, Olav Vitters&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;   wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Suggests drakconf in minimal package
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Why as part of task-gnome*, shouldn't it be a require elsewhere?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 1) for symmetry with task-kde4-minimal
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to clarify, &quot;Suggests: drakconf&quot; is a valid and real dependency in KDE's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> install because the digital clock widget uses drakclock to set date and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> time when the user ask &quot;Adjust Date and Time&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then why is this a suggest ?
+</I>
+because the clock widget is part of the default mga configuration panel, 
+but is not at all mandatory and can be removed from the panel by e.g. by 
+users that don't like it.
+
+&gt;<i> What happen if it is not here ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+IIRC, fallback to kde component.
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+-- 
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+We are starting building isos for Beta1, planned for 21/02. As usual
+please do not update major vesion until end of the release. As a
+reminder, version freeze is planned for 07/03 and we should now focus
+on fixing bugs.
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+Cheers
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+    <B>You-Cheng Hsieh</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We are starting building isos for Beta1, planned for 21/02. As usual
+</I>&gt;<i> please do not update major vesion until end of the release. As a
+</I>&gt;<i> reminder, version freeze is planned for 07/03 and we should now focus
+</I>&gt;<i> on fixing bugs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>
+Hello,
+For the softwares that upstream usually include bug fixes with new
+version releases and there's no other packages depend on them, could
+there be freeze exceptions for them? I'm currently an apprentice and
+my package updates need to be submitted by my mentor. I might need to
+update some of them after version freeze, before official release.
+
+Currently I'm taking care of the following packages:
+gcin (new version in svn, awaiting submit)
+hime
+pcmanx-gtk2 (new version in svn, awaiting submit)
+libchewing
+scim-chewing
+And I'm quite certain that gcin and hime will have new releases after
+version freeze. Both upstream development are very active.
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+Thanks,
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+You-Cheng Hsieh
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+    <B>Juergen Harms</B> 
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+design) suite. There are some major new releases under way, but will 
+probably not be ready before system freeze.
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+I had intended to include (that will only be possible once Beta is out) 
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+&gt;<i>I had intended to include (that will only be possible once Beta is 
+</I>&gt;<i>out) the latest available stable - old - releases, and to push an 
+</I>&gt;<i>update package once the new release is out and has proven stable. 
+</I>&gt;<i>That is somehow in the margin of Mageia policy, but appears to be a 
+</I>&gt;<i>sensible way out.
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+    <B>Angelo Naselli</B> 
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+<PRE>marted&#236; 14 febbraio 2012 alle 08:22, Anne nicolas ha scritto:
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> We are starting building isos for Beta1, planned for 21/02. As usual
+</I>&gt;<i> please do not update major vesion until end of the release. As a
+</I>&gt;<i> reminder, version freeze is planned for 07/03 and we should now focus
+</I>&gt;<i> on fixing bugs.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>Sorry i was sick, and i could not do some works, moreover it seems
+mikala has some hw problems... We plan to add new digikam.
+Since you're building new iso, please can you tell me when I 
+can work on it?
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/2/14 Angelo Naselli &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anaselli at linux.it</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> marted&#236; 14 febbraio 2012 alle 08:22, Anne nicolas ha scritto:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We are starting building isos for Beta1, planned for 21/02. As usual
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> please do not update major vesion until end of the release. As a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reminder, version freeze is planned for 07/03 and we should now focus
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on fixing bugs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry i was sick, and i could not do some works, moreover it seems
+</I>&gt;<i> mikala has some hw problems... We plan to add new digikam.
+</I>&gt;<i> Since you're building new iso, please can you tell me when I
+</I>&gt;<i> can work on it?
+</I>
+It depends on how much time it will take Any idea ?
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Angelo
+</I>
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+-- 
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+    <B>Juergen Harms</B> 
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+only quite recently. All I know is that backports have been an open 
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+And: is proposing a new upstream release - conceptually - really a backport?
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Sorry, I am yet another apprentice, and I started to listen to this list
+</I>&gt;<i> only quite recently. All I know is that backports have been an open issue.
+</I>&gt;<i> What document does your quote refer to?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And: is proposing a new upstream release - conceptually - really a backport?
+</I>
+Can we focus on the topic of this mail, eg beta1 isos You can both
+open a new thread for backports
+Thanks for advance
+
+-- 
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+    <B>Christian Lohmaier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Sorry, I am yet another apprentice, and I started to listen to this list
+</I>&gt;<i> only quite recently. All I know is that backports have been an open issue.
+</I>&gt;<i> What document does your quote refer to?
+</I>
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Updates_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Updates_policy</A>
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+But that document still contains the stupid (yes, I said it again, as
+nothing has changed) wording.
+
+For the real policy, read
+<A HREF="http://www.mail-archive.com/mageia-dev@mageia.org/msg11035.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/mageia-dev@mageia.org/msg11035.html</A> and
+the following mails.
+
+No wonder the discussions come up again and again when after the
+discussion the policies are not updated accordingly.
+
+ciao
+Christian
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+    <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> 
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lohmaier+mageia at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Juergen Harms &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Juergen.Harms at unige.ch</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry, I am yet another apprentice, and I started to listen to this list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> only quite recently. All I know is that backports have been an open issue.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What document does your quote refer to?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Updates_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Updates_policy</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But that document still contains the stupid (yes, I said it again, as
+</I>&gt;<i> nothing has changed) wording.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> For the real policy, read
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mail-archive.com/mageia-dev@mageia.org/msg11035.html">http://www.mail-archive.com/mageia-dev@mageia.org/msg11035.html</A> and
+</I>&gt;<i> the following mails.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No wonder the discussions come up again and again when after the
+</I>&gt;<i> discussion the policies are not updated accordingly.
+</I>
+So if the document needs to be updated, feel free to do it, add the
+links to the reference and notify about it in your team. This is a
+wiki, not marble. Makes no sense to complain about a doc that is
+outdated, if no one takes the time to fix it.
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">4F3A2DE8.1020003 at unige.ch</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>Sorry, I am yet another apprentice, and I started to listen to this 
+</I>&gt;<i>list only quite recently. All I know is that backports have been an 
+</I>&gt;<i>open issue. What document does your quote refer to?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>And: is proposing a new upstream release - conceptually - really a backport?
+</I>
+Hi Juergen,
+
+In short the policy is that once we have a release, we don't provide 
+updated packages other than bugfixes. New major versions can be released 
+as a backport (once these repositories become available).
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+Exceptions to this policy should be few and can be for security fixes 
+which can't easily be applied to the version in stable, or for client 
+applications which are expected to be talking a certain protocol by online 
+servers.
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+I hope this clarifies and properly reflects our policy in a few lines.
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+Cheers,
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+    <B>Juergen Harms</B> 
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+<PRE>Thank you Remco - the gist of what you say corresponds to my 
+recollection of the discussions I have seen. The problem is now, that I 
+am confronted with reality: 9 months release interval, a new upstream 
+release with lots of promising goodies around the corner - and 
+competitivity with other distros who happen to have a more fortunate timing.
+
+Lets not open another lengthy discussion on this. But I suggest to file 
+these considerations somewhere, and assess the policy once there is more 
+practical experience (between backports and flexibility some solution is 
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+    <B>Remco Rijnders</B> 
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">4F3A3C07.3020507 at unige.ch</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i>Thank you Remco - the gist of what you say corresponds to my 
+</I>&gt;<i>recollection of the discussions I have seen. The problem is now, that 
+</I>&gt;<i>I am confronted with reality: 9 months release interval, a new 
+</I>&gt;<i>upstream release with lots of promising goodies around the corner - 
+</I>&gt;<i>and competitivity with other distros who happen to have a more 
+</I>&gt;<i>fortunate timing.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Lets not open another lengthy discussion on this. But I suggest to 
+</I>&gt;<i>file these considerations somewhere, and assess the policy once there 
+</I>&gt;<i>is more practical experience (between backports and flexibility some 
+</I>&gt;<i>solution is needed rapidly)
+</I>
+I think the answer is in backports becoming available. All other options 
+have been discussed in length before and I believe this is what we settled 
+on at the time.
+
+Unfortunately this does mean that timing is sometimes a bit unfortunate 
+release cycle wise. Mageia 2 will already be a bit later so we can include 
+new versions of Gnome and KDE, but the line has to be drawn somewhere on 
+what goes in and what does not.
+
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+As usual we will have our weekly meeting tomorrow on #mageia-dev. Here
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+of focus for fixing Mageia
+- Version freeze reminder
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As usual we will have our weekly meeting tomorrow on #mageia-dev. Here
+</I>&gt;<i> the list of topics:
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+</I>&gt;<i> of focus for fixing Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> - Version freeze reminder
+</I>&gt;<i> - Updates advisories
+</I>&gt;<i> - Use of new servers
+</I>
+- gsoc 2012 (sorry misc)
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We are just only one month before the version freeze and two weeks 
+</I>&gt;<i> before planned release of Beta 1.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What was planned
+</I>&gt;<i> - to switch in Mageia packages from Aspell and Myspell to Hunspell
+</I>&gt;<i> - to support in Enchant only Hunspell and Voikko (the Finnish 
+</I>&gt;<i> spell-checker)
+</I>&gt;<i> - permanently remove Myspell from Mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> - keep Aspell and Aspell dictionaries as a fall-back for old or 
+</I>&gt;<i> software (or already not ported)
+</I>&gt;<i> - remove Ispell remnants
+</I>&gt;<i> * prepare policy for a Hunspell dictionary
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What was faced
+</I>&gt;<i> - lack of policy
+</I>&gt;<i> - Mozilla software (Firefox, Thunderbird, ...) is using Myspell
+</I>&gt;<i> - packages: alpine, kadu-module-spellchecker, kdelibs4-core, scribus, 
+</I>&gt;<i> weechat-aspell, xedit, xfig, gedit, psi, claws-mail, eclipse-texlipse, 
+</I>&gt;<i> mutt and some perl and php packages were affected
+</I>&gt;<i> - 120 Hunspell dictionaries needed to be rewritten
+</I>&gt;<i> - 76 Aspell dictionaries needed to stop providing a virtual package 
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;enchant-dictionary&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> - Some Myspell packages provide hyphenation and thesaurus - and it has 
+</I>&gt;<i> to be fully replaced by mythes and hyphen dictionaries
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What was done
+</I>&gt;<i> - policy is written <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Hunspell-dictionary_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Hunspell-dictionary_policy</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> * it is following Mageia rpm guidelines and spec policies,
+</I>&gt;<i> * we follow and base on the Fedora packages (mainly versions and 
+</I>&gt;<i> sources) and therefore it's much easier to maintain
+</I>&gt;<i> - these packages already switched to Enchant or Hunspell
+</I>&gt;<i> * alpine, kadu-module-spellchecker, kdelibs4-core,  weechat-aspell, 
+</I>&gt;<i> xfig, gedit, psi, claws-mail, eclipse-texlipse
+</I>&gt;<i> (scribus is facing this request upstream, mutt and xedit still need a 
+</I>&gt;<i> closer look)
+</I>&gt;<i> * Ispell Perl package was marked as obsoleted and to be deleted
+</I>&gt;<i> - c. 3/4 Hunspell dictionaries are already transformed
+</I>&gt;<i> - c. 1/3 Aspell dictionaries are already cleaned
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To-do now (or before the local freeze for Beta 1)
+</I>&gt;<i> - transform the rest of Hunspell dictionaries
+</I>&gt;<i> - clean Aspell dictionaries
+</I>&gt;<i> - final cleanning of Mozilla applications
+</I>&gt;<i> * remove myspell definitely from Mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> *ETA 2012-02-14*
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To-do before the release freeze
+</I>&gt;<i> - clean mythes, thesaurus (and autocorr) packages
+</I>&gt;<i> - review transformed dictionaries
+</I>&gt;<i> - try to switch to Enchant/Hunspell in two Perl modules and review php 
+</I>&gt;<i> ones
+</I>Unfortunatelly I can't participate today the meeting.
+
+Status of the consolidation of the spellcheckers since last notification:
+- all hunspell dictionaries are transformed and are installing into 
+right directories
+- imported and submitted dictionaries of some missing languages (for now 
+gsc, lv, mg)
+- there was a bug request to move Mozilla applications to use hunspell 
+(dmorgan, ansii, doktor were having a look)
+- there was a bug request to use external thesaurus dictionaries in 
+Mozilla appls (thanks Luc!)
+
+To-do before the version freeze (I think, I can finish it tonight):
+- review additional ~50 hunspell dicts and use better obsoletion of myspell
+- stop providing enchant-dictionary in 2/3 aspell dicts
+
+To-do before the release freeze:
+- fix latest applications to use hunspell/enchant (xedit, mutt, some 
+perl and php packages,..?)
+- fix bugs
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/2/14 Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 07.02.2012 03:23, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We are just only one month before the version freeze and two weeks before
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> planned release of Beta 1.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What was planned
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - to switch in Mageia packages from Aspell and Myspell to Hunspell
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - to support in Enchant only Hunspell and Voikko (the Finnish
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> spell-checker)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - permanently remove Myspell from Mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - keep Aspell and Aspell dictionaries as a fall-back for old or software
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (or already not ported)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - remove Ispell remnants
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * prepare policy for a Hunspell dictionary
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What was faced
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - lack of policy
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Mozilla software (Firefox, Thunderbird, ...) is using Myspell
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - packages: alpine, kadu-module-spellchecker, kdelibs4-core, scribus,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> weechat-aspell, xedit, xfig, gedit, psi, claws-mail, eclipse-texlipse, mutt
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and some perl and php packages were affected
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - 120 Hunspell dictionaries needed to be rewritten
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - 76 Aspell dictionaries needed to stop providing a virtual package
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;enchant-dictionary&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Some Myspell packages provide hyphenation and thesaurus - and it has to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be fully replaced by mythes and hyphen dictionaries
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What was done
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - policy is written <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Hunspell-dictionary_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Hunspell-dictionary_policy</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * it is following Mageia rpm guidelines and spec policies,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * we follow and base on the Fedora packages (mainly versions and sources)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and therefore it's much easier to maintain
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - these packages already switched to Enchant or Hunspell
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * alpine, kadu-module-spellchecker, kdelibs4-core, &#160;weechat-aspell, xfig,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gedit, psi, claws-mail, eclipse-texlipse
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (scribus is facing this request upstream, mutt and xedit still need a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> closer look)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * Ispell Perl package was marked as obsoleted and to be deleted
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - c. 3/4 Hunspell dictionaries are already transformed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - c. 1/3 Aspell dictionaries are already cleaned
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To-do now (or before the local freeze for Beta 1)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - transform the rest of Hunspell dictionaries
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - clean Aspell dictionaries
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - final cleanning of Mozilla applications
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * remove myspell definitely from Mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> *ETA 2012-02-14*
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To-do before the release freeze
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - clean mythes, thesaurus (and autocorr) packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - review transformed dictionaries
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - try to switch to Enchant/Hunspell in two Perl modules and review php
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ones
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unfortunatelly I can't participate today the meeting.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Status of the consolidation of the spellcheckers since last notification:
+</I>&gt;<i> - all hunspell dictionaries are transformed and are installing into right
+</I>&gt;<i> directories
+</I>&gt;<i> - imported and submitted dictionaries of some missing languages (for now
+</I>&gt;<i> gsc, lv, mg)
+</I>&gt;<i> - there was a bug request to move Mozilla applications to use hunspell
+</I>&gt;<i> (dmorgan, ansii, doktor were having a look)
+</I>&gt;<i> - there was a bug request to use external thesaurus dictionaries in Mozilla
+</I>&gt;<i> appls (thanks Luc!)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To-do before the version freeze (I think, I can finish it tonight):
+</I>&gt;<i> - review additional ~50 hunspell dicts and use better obsoletion of myspell
+</I>&gt;<i> - stop providing enchant-dictionary in 2/3 aspell dicts
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To-do before the release freeze:
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix latest applications to use hunspell/enchant (xedit, mutt, some perl
+</I>&gt;<i> and php packages,..?)
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix bugs
+</I>
+Thanks, btw meeting is tomorrow
+
+-- 
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+<PRE>On 14.02.2012 15:40, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+&gt;<i> Status of the consolidation of the spellcheckers since last notification:
+</I>&gt;<i> - all hunspell dictionaries are transformed and are installing into 
+</I>&gt;<i> right directories
+</I>&gt;<i> - imported and submitted dictionaries of some missing languages (for 
+</I>&gt;<i> now gsc, lv, mg)
+</I>&gt;<i> - there was a bug request to move Mozilla applications to use hunspell 
+</I>&gt;<i> (dmorgan, ansii, doktor were having a look)
+</I>&gt;<i> - there was a bug request to use external thesaurus dictionaries in 
+</I>&gt;<i> Mozilla appls (thanks Luc!)
+</I>- cleaned spellcheckers in the meta-task package (removed aspell, 
+myspell replaced by hunspell) - thanks Luc!
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+<PRE>Am 14.02.2012 14:32, schrieb Anne nicolas:
+&gt;<i> 2012/2/14 Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As usual we will have our weekly meeting tomorrow on #mageia-dev. Here
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the list of topics:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Mageia 2 beta 1 release: release notes, isos QA, organization, list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> of focus for fixing Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Version freeze reminder
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Updates advisories
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Use of new servers
+</I>&gt;<i> - gsoc 2012 (sorry misc)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>One topic i'd like to add would be how to deal with unresponsive maintainers.
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+<PRE>Am 14.02.2012 15:40, schrieb Kamil Rytarowski:
+&gt;<i> On 07.02.2012 03:23, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We are just only one month before the version freeze and two weeks before
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> planned release of Beta 1.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Status of the consolidation of the spellcheckers since last notification:
+</I>&gt;<i> - all hunspell dictionaries are transformed and are installing into right
+</I>&gt;<i> directories
+</I>&gt;<i> - imported and submitted dictionaries of some missing languages (for now gsc,
+</I>&gt;<i> lv, mg)
+</I>&gt;<i> - there was a bug request to move Mozilla applications to use hunspell
+</I>&gt;<i> (dmorgan, ansii, doktor were having a look)
+</I>Sorry, thunderbird was not yet migrated, will look into doing it today
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+Anne
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 03/02/12 16:00 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and David W. Hodgins at 03/02/12 08:04 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, 17 Jan 2012 07:22:30 -0500, Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Are things working OK for you now with dracut or is it still busted?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just to clarify why I think the problem is happening on single
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> core systems.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On a multi-core system, the bash and udevd processes will be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> running on different cores.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> When the script executes the udev settle command, it continues
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to execute, so the loop checking to see if udev is done finds
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it isn't, so it then looks for/runs the initqueue jobs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On a single core system, the bash script waits for the settle
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> command to finish, so then finds it's done, and exits without
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> even trying to run the initqueue jobs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The patch in my prior message is effectively changing the script
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from &quot;udev done or jobs done&quot; to &quot;udev done and jobs done&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmm, actually thinking about this more, I'm not 100% sure I agree with
+</I>&gt;<i> this argument. The number of cores should be irrelevant here as the
+</I>&gt;<i> program itself should be dealing with things synchronously anyway.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm wondering if it's more of an issue relating to the fact that it's
+</I>&gt;<i> not specifically waiting for the LVM device to be ready. I guess your /
+</I>&gt;<i> is either not on LVM or is in a different Volume Group? In my tests it
+</I>&gt;<i> worked, but perhaps the dual core machine is simply that bit faster (and
+</I>&gt;<i> it's speed, not #cores that is important)?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> In the file parse-lvm.sh, it does a for loop and has a wait_for_dev
+</I>&gt;<i> call. This function will put stuff into the initqueue that should
+</I>&gt;<i> prevent the exiting of the loop until that device exists...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>     for dev in $(getargs rd.lvm.vg rd_LVM_VG=) $(getargs rd.lvm.lv
+</I>&gt;<i> rd_LVM_LV=); do
+</I>&gt;<i>         wait_for_dev &quot;/dev/$dev&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>     done
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Now according to the man page, these options are only meant to be used
+</I>&gt;<i> to restrict what devices are activated so they shouldn't be needed per-se.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> But it brings an important point... there does not appear to be any
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;wait_for_dev&quot; calls for the usrmount module  So nothing is going to be
+</I>&gt;<i> waiting for the device to exist. If it takes a little while to come up
+</I>&gt;<i> it could lead to your error.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And herein we have chicken and egg... we don't know where /usr is (i.e.
+</I>&gt;<i> which /dev/foo) until we mount /  (as we have to read /etc/fstab). But
+</I>&gt;<i> by the time we've mounted /, we've already exited this loop and thus
+</I>&gt;<i> cannot re-enter the loop to wait for more devices.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Tricky, and certainly something I'll discuss with Harald this weekend.
+</I>&gt;<i> He does have a separate branch that deals with usr mounting in a more
+</I>&gt;<i> holistic way (i.e. it handles /usr/bin being a separate mount if that
+</I>&gt;<i> floats your boat!), but I've not looked at this for a while to see if
+</I>&gt;<i> he's progressed any with it.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> All in all, it's perhaps just the fact that the first call to udevadm
+</I>&gt;<i> settle is skipped due to there being nothing in your initqueue/finished/
+</I>&gt;<i> folder? You can check via passing rd.break=initqueue and looking in the
+</I>&gt;<i> folder.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If so, then all that should be needed to get this into shape is to put a
+</I>&gt;<i> dummy file in there as part of the 98usrmount module, have that file
+</I>&gt;<i> delete itself and return and error code, thus causing check_finished()
+</I>&gt;<i> to return non zero and thus the call to udevsettle will be reached.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If this is NOT the issue, then it should just be a timing thing plain
+</I>&gt;<i> and simple. To confirm, this you should simply be able to pass
+</I>&gt;<i> rd.break=pre-pivot to the command line, wait a little while and then
+</I>&gt;<i> just type exit to continue the boot process. This extra time should be
+</I>&gt;<i> sufficient for udev to &quot;see&quot; the LVM stuff and for the mount command to
+</I>&gt;<i> succeed (I hope!)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry for the long reply. You will likely have to poke in the dracut
+</I>&gt;<i> code to understand everything I'm saying, but it looks like you're doing
+</I>&gt;<i> that happily already :D
+</I>
+
+OK, so I sadly didn't get a chance to speak to Harald in Brussels (only
+saw him briefly during a talk so couldn't go through my list of issues
+:<i>)) but think my comments above were correct.
+</I>
+To summarise, a problem would occur if / was on ext4 and /usr was on
+LVM. The LVM would never get activated. If / was on LVM too (but a
+different VG to /usr) then all would be fine.
+
+I think this is the scenario you had issues with.
+
+Looking at the new code in dracut 015, I think it writes out the
+variables I mentioned above (rd.lvm.vg) into a cmdline.d folder and thus
+the LVM for /usr should now get activated.
+
+In short, can you test the new dracut version just submitted?
+
+Cheers
+
+Col
+
+
+-- 
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+Can everyone please test the new dracut please? Especially those of you
+who had issues previously that I was able to fix. I just want to make
+sure I didn't drop any patches that were still needed and make sure new
+regressions have not snuck in.
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+It will be even nicer if some of the outstanding problems are also now
+fixed :)
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+Cheers
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+Col
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 14 February 2012 08:22, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> We are starting building isos for Beta1, planned for 21/02. As usual
+</I>&gt;<i> please do not update major vesion until end of the release. As a
+</I>&gt;<i> reminder, version freeze is planned for 07/03 and we should now focus
+</I>&gt;<i> on fixing bugs.
+</I>
+We've still many bugs on oxygen, some of them having fixes upstream.
+Shouldn't we either patch our oxygen-gtk package[1] with all the fixes
+provided by upstream or package a snapshot of oxygen-gtk as
+upstream says a new release will happen soon?
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+That's important since:
+- draklive-install is nearly unusable without those patches
+  which reduces quite a lot the interest of live CD...
+  (<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3313">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3313</A>)
+- embedded tools in mcc have issues when run with oxygen
+  (<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4485">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4485</A>)
+
+See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=oxygen">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=oxygen</A>
+for the full list
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+[1]&#160;to be renamed as oxygen-gtk2 btw
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+    <B>Manuel Hiebel</B> 
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+<PRE>Le mardi 14 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 16:28 +0100, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there any other modification to be added to this package
+</I>&gt;<i> (especially meta-task)? If not I will update it tonight for first set
+</I>&gt;<i> of isos.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>Hi,
+
+since I was wrong with what is really this package, I see only one on
+the bugzilla: 
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3718">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3718</A>
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+Xfce is more used than e17, and there was some threads on forums for
+*install* only xfce that's why this bug exist, and since e17 pkgs were
+missing on the media since some release (also in mdv).
+
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+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=cf_rpmpkg:meta-task">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=cf_rpmpkg:meta-task</A> )
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+    <B>Manuel Hiebel</B> 
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+<PRE>Le mardi 14 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 17:39 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> See
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=oxygen">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&amp;namedcmd=oxygen</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> for the full list
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>In fact with this url other people (than the author) can't see the
+search.
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+or <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=cf_rpmpkg:oxygen">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=cf_rpmpkg:oxygen</A>
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+<PRE>Am 26.01.2012 20:56, schrieb Luc Menut:
+&gt;<i> Le 25/01/2012 21:21, Juergen Harms a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I just joined this list - therefore top-posting rather than replying.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Seeing the discussion on space on isos,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> some data about differences between mageia 1 x86_64 DVD and mageia 2a3 x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i> DVD:
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia 1 : 3730 Mo - 4630 packages
+</I>&gt;<i> mageia 2 : 4139 Mo - 4209 packages
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> some new &quot;big&quot; packages in mga 2:
+</I>&gt;<i> - *eclipse* -&gt;        + 67 packages -&gt; +302 Mo
+</I>&gt;<i>   + lots of new java packages (ant, maven, ...)
+</I>&gt;<i> - celtx* -&gt;           +  7 packages -&gt; +132 Mo
+</I>&gt;<i> - e, e17_themes -&gt;    +  2 packages -&gt;  +36 Mo
+</I>&gt;<i> - chromium-browser -&gt; +  2 packages -&gt;  +23 Mo
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> some packages bigger than in mga 1:
+</I>&gt;<i> - texlive* -&gt; + 95Mo (mga1 306Mo, mga2 401Mo)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> packages that we will be able to remove in mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> - myspell* 39Mo (after hunspell migration)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> some major missing packages in mga2 DVD ISO:
+</I>&gt;<i> - lots of kde packages,
+</I>&gt;<i> - gstreamer0.10-pulse,
+</I>&gt;<i> - kernel-desktop-devel-latest,
+</I>&gt;<i> - kernel-server-devel-latest,
+</I>&gt;<i> - perhaps others :'(
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Luc
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Somehow related, i just did some rpm size comparisons for thunderbird
+-l10n packages, to see what can be gained if we switch them back to
+uncompressing the (zipped) .xpi files and so let them profit from
+rpm binary payload compression. It's not much for a single package,
+but overall it's a reduction by 35%.
+
+Maybe this is a viable solution for other packages too, which currently
+carry files which are already compressed when building.
+
+Some numbers (total size of-l10n packages, followed by time output for
+the build to see the cost of this switch)
+
+----
+.xpis unzipped -&gt; using rpm default compression &quot;_binary_payload    w5.lzdio&quot;
+
+$ LC_ALL=C du -ch mozilla-thunderbird-*rpm
+11M     total
+
+182.92user 34.65system 3:55.54elapsed 92%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 188512maxresident)k
+0inputs+482992outputs (0major+17025693minor)pagefaults 0swaps
+----
+
+----
+not unzipping .xpis:
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+$ LC_ALL=C du -ch mozilla-thunderbird-*rpm
+17M     total
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+20.89user 7.27system 0:31.57elapsed 89%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 109264maxresident)k
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+I have noticed that now I can't switch to a virtual console
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have noticed that now I can't switch to a virtual console
+</I>&gt;<i> (ctrl+alt+F#), is this intentional, or a bug ? I have searched
+</I>&gt;<i> bugzilla but didn't found anything.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Hmmmm... I just tested it on one of my VM's and I can switch to
+virtual consoles, so it is something specific to my laptop. My card
+is:
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+00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge
+Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
+01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc NI Whistler
+[AMD Radeon HD 6600M Series] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
+
+Is anyone aware of this or should I open a bug report ?
+
+-- 
+Juancho
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+<PRE>Am 14.02.2012 18:39, schrieb Florian Hubold:
+&gt;<i> Am 26.01.2012 20:56, schrieb Luc Menut:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 25/01/2012 21:21, Juergen Harms a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just joined this list - therefore top-posting rather than replying.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Seeing the discussion on space on isos,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some data about differences between mageia 1 x86_64 DVD and mageia 2a3 x86_64
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> DVD:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mageia 1 : 3730 Mo - 4630 packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mageia 2 : 4139 Mo - 4209 packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some new &quot;big&quot; packages in mga 2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - *eclipse* -&gt;        + 67 packages -&gt; +302 Mo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   + lots of new java packages (ant, maven, ...)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - celtx* -&gt;           +  7 packages -&gt; +132 Mo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - e, e17_themes -&gt;    +  2 packages -&gt;  +36 Mo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - chromium-browser -&gt; +  2 packages -&gt;  +23 Mo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some packages bigger than in mga 1:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - texlive* -&gt; + 95Mo (mga1 306Mo, mga2 401Mo)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages that we will be able to remove in mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - myspell* 39Mo (after hunspell migration)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some major missing packages in mga2 DVD ISO:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - lots of kde packages,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - gstreamer0.10-pulse,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - kernel-desktop-devel-latest,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - kernel-server-devel-latest,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - perhaps others :'(
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Luc
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Somehow related, i just did some rpm size comparisons for thunderbird
+</I>&gt;<i> -l10n packages, to see what can be gained if we switch them back to
+</I>&gt;<i> uncompressing the (zipped) .xpi files and so let them profit from
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm binary payload compression. It's not much for a single package,
+</I>&gt;<i> but overall it's a reduction by 35%.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe this is a viable solution for other packages too, which currently
+</I>&gt;<i> carry files which are already compressed when building.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some numbers (total size of-l10n packages, followed by time output for
+</I>&gt;<i> the build to see the cost of this switch)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----
+</I>&gt;<i> .xpis unzipped -&gt; using rpm default compression &quot;_binary_payload    w5.lzdio&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ LC_ALL=C du -ch mozilla-thunderbird-*rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> 11M     total
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 182.92user 34.65system 3:55.54elapsed 92%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 188512maxresident)k
+</I>&gt;<i> 0inputs+482992outputs (0major+17025693minor)pagefaults 0swaps
+</I>&gt;<i> ----
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ----
+</I>&gt;<i> not unzipping .xpis:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ LC_ALL=C du -ch mozilla-thunderbird-*rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> 17M     total
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 20.89user 7.27system 0:31.57elapsed 89%CPU (0avgtext+0avgdata 109264maxresident)k
+</I>&gt;<i> 0inputs+356720outputs (0major+3218040minor)pagefaults 0swaps
+</I>&gt;<i> ----
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Will commit for cauldron shortly, but it won't make it into beta1, sorry.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>To give proper credit, this idea is &#169; by Annsi :)
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+<PRE>On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Thierry Vignaud
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 14 February 2012 08:22, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We are starting building isos for Beta1, planned for 21/02. As usual
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> please do not update major vesion until end of the release. As a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reminder, version freeze is planned for 07/03 and we should now focus
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on fixing bugs.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We've still many bugs on oxygen, some of them having fixes upstream.
+</I>&gt;<i> Shouldn't we either patch our oxygen-gtk package[1] with all the fixes
+</I>&gt;<i> provided by upstream or package a snapshot of oxygen-gtk as
+</I>&gt;<i> upstream says a new release will happen soon?
+</I>
+Hi,
+
+i just talked with hugo about this.
+
+Tomorow we will have a new release of oxygen-gtk{,3} ( i will package it )
+
+I plan to organize a Oxygen-gtk bug day right after Beta1 , this will
+help a lot for our open bugs
+
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+&gt;<i> [1]&#160;to be renamed as oxygen-gtk2 btw
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 14 February 2012 18:39, Florian Hubold &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Somehow related, i just did some rpm size comparisons for thunderbird
+</I>&gt;<i> -l10n packages, to see what can be gained if we switch them back to
+</I>&gt;<i> uncompressing the (zipped) .xpi files and so let them profit from
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm binary payload compression. It's not much for a single package,
+</I>&gt;<i> but overall it's a reduction by 35%.
+</I>
+So we save a little space from DVDs but we'll quite a lot more on the
+installed systems...
+Bad tradeoff IMHO...
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+&gt;<i> Maybe this is a viable solution for other packages too, which currently
+</I>&gt;<i> carry files which are already compressed when building.
+</I>
+That would only waste more space on installed systemdsif we
+uncompress man pages, info pages &amp; the like too...
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;<i> I have noticed that now I can't switch to a virtual console
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (ctrl+alt+F#), is this intentional, or a bug ? I have searched
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bugzilla but didn't found anything.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmmmm... I just tested it on one of my VM's and I can switch to
+</I>&gt;<i> virtual consoles, so it is something specific to my laptop. My card
+</I>&gt;<i> is:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Sandy Bridge
+</I>&gt;<i> Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
+</I>&gt;<i> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc NI Whistler
+</I>&gt;<i> [AMD Radeon HD 6600M Series] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is anyone aware of this or should I open a bug report ?
+</I>
+I've seen that occasionally over the years.
+Definitively not new.
+I think it's related to bootstraping not being finished.
+Hard to debug...
+Can you check if systemd has forked mingetty for the
+text consoles yet?
+
+Colin might have some thoughs about that?
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+<PRE>On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Thierry Vignaud
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I've seen that occasionally over the years.
+</I>&gt;<i> Definitively not new.
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it's related to bootstraping not being finished.
+</I>&gt;<i> Hard to debug...
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you check if systemd has forked mingetty for the
+</I>&gt;<i> text consoles yet?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I'm using sysvinit not systemd.
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 14/02/2012 19:58, Juan Luis Baptiste a &#233;crit :
+&gt;&gt;<i> Can you check if systemd has forked mingetty for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> text consoles yet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm using sysvinit not systemd.
+</I>Try systemd then...
+
+-- 
+Any circuit design must contain at least one part which is obsolete, two 
+parts which are unobtainable and three parts which are still under 
+development
+		-- Murphy's Laws on Technology n&#176;23
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+    <B>Luc Menut</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 14/02/2012 19:58, Juan Luis Baptiste a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:39 PM, Thierry Vignaud
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've seen that occasionally over the years.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Definitively not new.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think it's related to bootstraping not being finished.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hard to debug...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can you check if systemd has forked mingetty for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> text consoles yet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm using sysvinit not systemd.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Can you try to comment the line corresponding to tty1 in /etc/inittab?
+...
+# Run gettys in standard runlevels
+#1:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty1
+2:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty2
+3:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty3
+4:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty4
+5:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty5
+6:2345:respawn:/sbin/mingetty tty6
+...
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+
+-- 
+Luc Menut
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+    <B>Dick Gevers</B> 
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+[RPM] cauldron core/release c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2:
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+&gt;<i>Name        : c++-gtk-utils                Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i>Version     : 2.0.4                             Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i>Release     : 1.mga2                        Build Date: Tue Feb 14
+</I>&gt;<i>19:36:12 2012 Install Date: (not installed)               Build Host:
+</I>&gt;<i>ecosse.mageia.org Group       : System/Libraries              Source RPM:
+</I>&gt;<i>(none) Size        : 2000191                          License: GPLv2
+</I>&gt;<i>Signature   : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i>Packager    : barjac &lt;barjac&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>URL         : <A HREF="http://cxx-gtk-utils.sourceforge.net">http://cxx-gtk-utils.sourceforge.net</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>Summary     : GTK+-based ISO image editor
+</I>&gt;<i>Description :
+</I>&gt;<i>c++-gtk-utils is a lightweight library containing
+</I>&gt;<i>a number of classes and functions for programming
+</I>&gt;<i>GTK+ programs using C++ in POSIX (Unix-like) environments,
+</I>
+The summary seems to cover stg completely different than the description?
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+Cheers,
+=Dick Gevers=
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+<PRE>On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Guillaume Rousse
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 14/02/2012 19:58, Juan Luis Baptiste a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Can you check if systemd has forked mingetty for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> text consoles yet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm using sysvinit not systemd.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Try systemd then...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+But isn't sysvinit to be the default for mga 2 and the switch to
+systemd is going to be for mga 3 ? or I'm missing something ?
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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+<PRE>14.02.2012 21:50, Juan Luis Baptiste skrev:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Guillaume Rousse
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 14/02/2012 19:58, Juan Luis Baptiste a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Can you check if systemd has forked mingetty for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> text consoles yet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm using sysvinit not systemd.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Try systemd then...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> But isn't sysvinit to be the default for mga 2 and the switch to
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd is going to be for mga 3 ? or I'm missing something ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+
+systemd will be default for Mageia 2
+
+sysvinit is only a fallback for systems that dont work with systemd &quot;yet&quot;...
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+sysvinit (and mkinitrd) will be completely removed as soon as Cauldron
+opens up again after Mageia 2 release.
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+<PRE>On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Luc Menut &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lmenut at free.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 14/02/2012 19:58, Juan Luis Baptiste a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;<i> Can you try to comment the line corresponding to tty1 in /etc/inittab?
+</I>&gt;<i> ...
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+<PRE>On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 14.02.2012 21:50, Juan Luis Baptiste skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd will be default for Mageia 2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> sysvinit is only a fallback for systems that dont work with systemd &quot;yet&quot;...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> sysvinit (and mkinitrd) will be completely removed as soon as Cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> opens up again after Mageia 2 release.
+</I>
+
+Ahh ok, what I remembered from some months ago was what I said, I
+didn't knew that was changed. I'm going to test again with systemd.
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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+<PRE>14.02.2012 22:02, Juan Luis Baptiste skrev:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:53 PM, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 14.02.2012 21:50, Juan Luis Baptiste skrev:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> systemd will be default for Mageia 2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sysvinit is only a fallback for systems that dont work with systemd &quot;yet&quot;...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sysvinit (and mkinitrd) will be completely removed as soon as Cauldron
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> opens up again after Mageia 2 release.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Ahh ok, what I remembered from some months ago was what I said, I
+</I>&gt;<i> didn't knew that was changed. I'm going to test again with systemd.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+It hasn't changed.
+
+It's always been the plan for Mageia 2.
+
+But there has been some misunderstandings on the list...
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+--
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+    <I>Tue Feb 14 21:26:49 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 3:08 PM, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 14.02.2012 22:02, Juan Luis Baptiste skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It hasn't changed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's always been the plan for Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But there has been some misunderstandings on the list...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Ok with systemd virtual consoles work,  but boot time with systemd is
+much more slower than with sysvinit. From grub menu to kdm 48seg with
+systemd, 30seg with systemvinit (althought around 7 seg is spent in an
+udev error). It seems to take some time after the message &quot;Console
+system startup logging&quot;, which after that delay KDM starts to load but
+I didn't manage to see the message between &quot;Console system startup
+logging&quot; and KDM load.
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+-- 
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+    <B>Jani V&#228;limaa</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/2/14 barjac &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Name &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: c++-gtk-utils &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version &#160; &#160; : 2.0.4 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release &#160; &#160; : 1.mga2 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Build Date: Tue Feb 14 19:36:12 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group &#160; &#160; &#160; : System/Libraries &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: 2000191 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;License: GPLv2
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature &#160; : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager &#160; &#160;: barjac &lt;barjac&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; : <A HREF="http://cxx-gtk-utils.sourceforge.net">http://cxx-gtk-utils.sourceforge.net</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary &#160; &#160; : GTK+-based ISO image editor
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> c++-gtk-utils is a lightweight library containing
+</I>&gt;<i> a number of classes and functions for programming
+</I>&gt;<i> GTK+ programs using C++ in POSIX (Unix-like) environments,
+</I>&gt;<i> where the user does not want to use a full-on wrapper such
+</I>&gt;<i> as gtkmm or wxWidgets, or is concerned about exception safety
+</I>&gt;<i> or thread safety of the wrapper and their documentation.
+</I>&gt;<i> It is parallel installable for both GTK+2 and GTK+3.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> barjac &lt;barjac&gt; 2.0.4-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 208908
+</I>&gt;<i> - &amp;.mga2- del *.a
+</I>&gt;<i> - imported package c++-gtk-utils
+</I>
+You should avoid using macros in commit msgs or at least escape them
+(%mkrel -&gt; %%mkrel) or use mgarepo to commit changes which does it
+automatically.
+
+Commit msgs &quot;%mkrel &amp; spelling error&quot; and &quot;del *.a&quot; looks now in
+changelog like &quot;- &amp;.mga2- del *.a&quot;.
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+    <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B> 
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+<PRE>On 02/14/2012 07:39 PM, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 14 February 2012 19:01, Juan Luis Baptiste &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">juancho at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have noticed that now I can't switch to a virtual console
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (ctrl+alt+F#), is this intentional, or a bug ? I have searched
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bugzilla but didn't found anything.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That reminds me of another issue...
+
+I have some sever boxes booting in text mode, by making default.target
+point to multi-user.target.
+I have no getty spawned for tty1, so they look strange, boot messages
+remain in screen.
+Why is getty for tty1 missing ?
+
+annwn:/lib/systemd/system# ps -ef | grep getty
+root      2525     1  0 Feb13 tty3     00:00:00 /sbin/agetty tty3 38400
+root      2530     1  0 Feb13 tty2     00:00:00 /sbin/agetty tty2 38400
+root      2534     1  0 Feb13 tty5     00:00:00 /sbin/agetty tty5 38400
+root      2539     1  0 Feb13 tty6     00:00:00 /sbin/agetty tty6 38400
+root      2542     1  0 Feb13 tty4     00:00:00 /sbin/agetty tty4 38400
+root     32761 32556  0 23:00 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color getty
+annwn:/lib/systemd/system# ps -ef | grep dm
+root      2470     1  0 Feb13 ?        00:00:00 rpc.idmapd
+root     32763 32556  0 23:00 pts/0    00:00:00 grep --color dm
+
+TIA!
+
+-- 
+J.A. Magallon &lt;jamagallon()ono!com&gt;        \               Winter is coming...
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+&gt;<i> Can everyone please test the new dracut please? Especially those of you
+</I>
+I'll test it shortly.  I think there is a slight problem when dracut gets
+updated at the same time as the kernel, udev, or anything else that is
+going to get installed in the initramfs.
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+Rather then triggering the running of dracut when the kernel gets installed,
+I think it would be better to have something that runs at the end of urpmi
+or MageiaUpdate, that check to see if dracut or anything in the existing
+initramfs has been updated, and if so, then run dracut.
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+What do you think?
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+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+    <B>David W. Hodgins</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Can everyone please test the new dracut please? Especially those of you
+</I>
+With dracut-015-2, / on a partition, /usr on a lvm logical volume, the
+initramfs no longer has the lvm2 command, or the dm_mod kernel module
+making it impossible to mount /usr.
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+The file 50mount-usr.sh is present in hooks/pre-pivot, but the file
+30parse-lvm.sh is no longer in hooks/cmdline.
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+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+    <B>Kyle Fletcher</B> 
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+    <I>Wed Feb 15 04:15:46 CET 2012</I>
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+I've been looking for a distro to join for awhile now and finally
+landed with mageia.  I'm relatively new to it, but have enjoyed it so
+far.  I've started teaching myself how to package and have packaged
+two things so far.  (very unstable, but i'm working on it).  I have
+also put my name and info on the wiki
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager</A> so if there is
+anyone out there that would like to mentor me please let me know.
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+I'm also usually in IRC all the time under the name vitamin{, tho afk alot :)
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+Thanks,
+Kyle
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+    <I>Wed Feb 15 07:16:41 CET 2012</I>
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+&gt;<i> tmb &lt;tmb&gt; 1.64-3.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 209004
+</I>&gt;<i> - search for xz compressed modules
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+You should have done a new release instead of patching...
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Consolidation%20of%20the%20spell%20checkers%20-%20current%0A%20status%20before%20Beta%201%20and%20general%20version%20freeze&In-Reply-To=%3C4F3B5260.3080609%40gmx.com%3E"
+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze">n54 at gmx.com
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+    <I>Wed Feb 15 07:36:16 CET 2012</I>
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+All Hunspell dictionaries are ready (except hunspell-fi - I will import 
+it after Beta1).
+I have additionally imported a few missing languages from Fedora and 
+submitted into BS dictionaries that were living only in SVN.
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+Now it's time for finising Aspell..
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+    <B>zezinho</B> 
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+&gt;<i> I've been looking for a distro to join for awhile now and finally
+</I>&gt;<i> landed with mageia.  I'm relatively new to it, but have enjoyed it so
+</I>
+So, Welcome! As we get closer to MGA2, it may be harder to find a mentor.
+Just be patient if nothing happens....
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 03:55:17PM +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> Can everyone please test the new dracut please? Especially those of you
+</I>&gt;<i> who had issues previously that I was able to fix. I just want to make
+</I>&gt;<i> sure I didn't drop any patches that were still needed and make sure new
+</I>&gt;<i> regressions have not snuck in.
+</I>
+Only ever had non-existent swap problem with Dracut. Tried
+dracut-015-1.mga2.. still booted. Didn't try the -2.
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+Regards,
+Olav
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+    <B>Shlomi Fish</B> 
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+<PRE>Hi Kyle,
+
+On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:15:46 -0600
+Kyle Fletcher &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">kfletcher87 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hello all,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I've been looking for a distro to join for awhile now and finally
+</I>&gt;<i> landed with mageia.  I'm relatively new to it, but have enjoyed it so
+</I>&gt;<i> far.  I've started teaching myself how to package and have packaged
+</I>&gt;<i> two things so far.  (very unstable, but i'm working on it).  I have
+</I>&gt;<i> also put my name and info on the wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager</A> so if there is
+</I>&gt;<i> anyone out there that would like to mentor me please let me know.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm also usually in IRC all the time under the name vitamin{, tho afk alot :)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+I'm willing to mentor you. Just note that I'm working on Wednesday, Thursday
+and part of Sunday and don't have access to a Mageia system there (or
+can authenticate for my Mageia account).
+
+Regards,
+
+	Shlomi Fish
+
+-- 
+-----------------------------------------------------------------
+Shlomi Fish       <A HREF="http://www.shlomifish.org/">http://www.shlomifish.org/</A>
+Understand what Open Source is - <A HREF="http://shlom.in/oss-fs">http://shlom.in/oss-fs</A>
+
+Chuck Norris once wrote a 10 million lines C++ program in Microsoft Notepad
+without having to use the backspace key. And it compiled without errors or
+warnings, and was 100% bug&#8208;free.
+
+Please reply to list if it's a mailing list post - <A HREF="http://shlom.in/reply">http://shlom.in/reply</A> .
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+<PRE>I dont know if its a dracut problem or new kernel but with latest
+kernel + dracut I cant boot - kernel panic ... couldn't mount
+something :) i can check it
+
+2012/2/15 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 03:55:17PM +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can everyone please test the new dracut please? Especially those of you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> who had issues previously that I was able to fix. I just want to make
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sure I didn't drop any patches that were still needed and make sure new
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> regressions have not snuck in.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Only ever had non-existent swap problem with Dracut. Tried
+</I>&gt;<i> dracut-015-1.mga2.. still booted. Didn't try the -2.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Olav
+</I>
+
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+-- 
+A. Kaaber
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+</I>&gt;<i> changelog like &quot;-&amp;.mga2- del *.a&quot;.
+</I>BTW, using cryptic change messages is quite useless for end user, the 
+main target of package changelog. '%mkrel' doesn't mean anything, and 
+'del *.a' looks like a shell command, not a human phrase. Remember than 
+people interested in detailed spec file history can easily retrieve it 
+from subversion directly, you don't need to paraphrase it.
+
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+-- 
+BOFH excuse #287:
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+Telecommunications is downshifting.
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+&gt;<i> On 15 February 2012 00:48, tmb&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tmb&lt;tmb&gt;  1.64-3.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 209004
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - search for xz compressed modules
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - disable module recompression (already xz compressed)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You should have done a new release instead of patching...
+</I>
+
+It was the fastest way to get something out last night with for frozen 
+repo, so I did a quick fix.
+
+And the correct fix needs more coding since arm does not support xz 
+compressed modules so we need to adapt for that too, and not blindly
+recompress to .xz or search for .xz only...
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+--
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+is it still down? i cannot commit right now.
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:55:17 -0500, Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can everyone please test the new dracut please? Especially those of you
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll test it shortly.  I think there is a slight problem when dracut gets
+</I>&gt;<i> updated at the same time as the kernel, udev, or anything else that is
+</I>&gt;<i> going to get installed in the initramfs.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Rather then triggering the running of dracut when the kernel gets
+</I>&gt;<i> installed,
+</I>&gt;<i> I think it would be better to have something that runs at the end of urpmi
+</I>&gt;<i> or MageiaUpdate, that check to see if dracut or anything in the existing
+</I>&gt;<i> initramfs has been updated, and if so, then run dracut.
+</I>
+Strangely enough I was thinking vaguely along the same lines. My issue
+was udev specifically. Sadly working out exactly when to rebuild the
+initramfs is pretty tricky, e.g. if lvm or dm tools are updated do we
+really need them in this particular setup's initramfs? Should we rebuild
+anyway (it should be safe) and accept the unnecessary work in those
+cases? Might be a reasonable thing to do...
+
+I guess then a filetrigger could be written that checks for files
+certain locations and triggers an initrd rebuild. For the kernel it
+would only build one, but for udev, dm, lvm etc. it would rebuild all of
+them...
+
+Might confuse some people however and create cases working systems are
+hosed unnecessarily, and I'm not sure how much of real, practical
+problem it is to simply have a slightly outdated tools in the initram
+fs? Perhaps we just need to get ordering better on updates such that
+udev, lvm, dm etc. are all ordered before kernel during updates? Maybe
+that will solve 95% of the issues?
+
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and David W. Hodgins at 15/02/12 01:38 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:55:17 -0500, Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can everyone please test the new dracut please? Especially those of you
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> With dracut-015-2, / on a partition, /usr on a lvm logical volume, the
+</I>&gt;<i> initramfs no longer has the lvm2 command, or the dm_mod kernel module
+</I>&gt;<i> making it impossible to mount /usr.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The file 50mount-usr.sh is present in hooks/pre-pivot, but the file
+</I>&gt;<i> 30parse-lvm.sh is no longer in hooks/cmdline.
+</I>
+Damn, it looked like the code was OK for that. I'll have to reintroduce
+some patches I guess.
+
+Cheers for the report, I'll try and create a similar VM tonight.
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> On 12/02/15 08:43 +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; SVN is down for ~30minutes :-(
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> is it still down? i cannot commit right now.
+</I>
+so far, the server is up ( at least, I can ssh on it ), and the ldap is
+working. We take a look at what could be the problem for now. 
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+<PRE>Manuel Hiebel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">manuel at ...</A>&gt; writes:
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+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Le mardi 14 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 16:28 +0100, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is there any other modification to be added to this package
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (especially meta-task)? If not I will update it tonight for first set
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; of isos.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> since I was wrong with what is really this package, I see only one on
+</I>&gt;<i> the bugzilla: 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3718">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3718</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Xfce is more used than e17, and there was some threads on forums for
+</I>&gt;<i> *install* only xfce that's why this bug exist, and since e17 pkgs were
+</I>&gt;<i> missing on the media since some release (also in mdv).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> ( for all one:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=cf_rpmpkg:meta-task">https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=cf_rpmpkg:meta-task</A> )
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+If it is not too late, I would wish that the relative clause in bug 3060 is
+ also integrated in meta-task.
+
+I think that it would maybe allow to reduce the size of the packages
+of a dual-arch CD.
+With the proposed modification, the minimal installation, such as I make it
+ (minimal installation + X server) + IceWM-light + urpmi)
+asks only env 580 packages, instead of 847 otherwise.
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and David W. Hodgins at 14/02/12 23:21 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:55:17 -0500, Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Can everyone please test the new dracut please? Especially those of you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'll test it shortly.  I think there is a slight problem when dracut gets
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> updated at the same time as the kernel, udev, or anything else that is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> going to get installed in the initramfs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Rather then triggering the running of dracut when the kernel gets
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installed,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think it would be better to have something that runs at the end of urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or MageiaUpdate, that check to see if dracut or anything in the existing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> initramfs has been updated, and if so, then run dracut.
+</I>
+The best I can do from kernel pov is to change %post into %posttrans so 
+creating initrd would happend at end of install transaction
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Strangely enough I was thinking vaguely along the same lines. My issue
+</I>&gt;<i> was udev specifically. Sadly working out exactly when to rebuild the
+</I>&gt;<i> initramfs is pretty tricky, e.g. if lvm or dm tools are updated do we
+</I>&gt;<i> really need them in this particular setup's initramfs? Should we rebuild
+</I>&gt;<i> anyway (it should be safe) and accept the unnecessary work in those
+</I>&gt;<i> cases? Might be a reasonable thing to do...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+&quot;it should be safe&quot; - famous last words... :)
+
+&gt;<i> I guess then a filetrigger could be written that checks for files
+</I>&gt;<i> certain locations and triggers an initrd rebuild. For the kernel it
+</I>&gt;<i> would only build one, but for udev, dm, lvm etc. it would rebuild all of
+</I>&gt;<i> them...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+We should _never_ rebuild all initrds.
+If/when one of the updated packaged has a critical systemcrashing bug, 
+we render the whole system unbootable.
+
+&gt;<i> Might confuse some people however and create cases working systems are
+</I>&gt;<i> hosed unnecessarily, and I'm not sure how much of real, practical
+</I>&gt;<i> problem it is to simply have a slightly outdated tools in the initram
+</I>&gt;<i> fs? Perhaps we just need to get ordering better on updates such that
+</I>&gt;<i> udev, lvm, dm etc. are all ordered before kernel during updates? Maybe
+</I>&gt;<i> that will solve 95% of the issues?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+That could be an option of we can get the tools to differentiate between
+high-priority (glibc/rpm/urpm*/...), priority (udev/lvm/dm/...) and the 
+rest...
+
+Otoh, most of the issues we see now is Cauldron -&gt; Cauldron updates.
+in a stable release many of the packages wont change.
+
+Of course that still leaves distro upgrades, but maybe that can be 
+handled in the installer or by adding versionated conflicts to kernel
+to help urpmi figure out the order to update...
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+--
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+    <B>Steven Tucker</B> 
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+I would like to make comment on the Mentoring system, and hopefully I 
+will convey it, and be interpreted in the best possible spirit.
+I am glad Kyle has now had an offer to be mentored and by no means wish 
+to stop this or interfere in anyway, however I felt quite deflated when 
+I read the offer to mentor him, and I imagine others would too, so I 
+feel obligated to comment.
+
+There is a list on the wiki of people looking for mentors
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager#Packaging_apprentice_candidates">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager#Packaging_apprentice_candidates</A>
+
+Kyle has indeed added his name to the list, however there are 5 people 
+on the list before him, I have been on that list since mid January, and 
+there is someone who has been waiting since late November.
+
+All things being equal, shouldn't preference be given to the top 
+(longest waiting) of the list?
+Is there a reason why 5 people get overlooked, and someone who has been 
+waiting 2 days is given a chance? If we are not as 
+committed/capable/available/desirable can someone please let us know? I 
+have already packaged a program I wrote and want added to Mageia, and I 
+wait patiently for a Mentor, just to find the line has been cut.
+
+Do I need to constantly have IRC on to be chosen? is there some 
+unwritten rules about how to gain a mentor? If so please let me know so 
+I can do these things.
+
+I hope this is taken constructively, I don't wish for the mentoring 
+offer to Kyle to be withdrawn, he sounds like he will be an asset to the 
+packaging team, I do think though that you should consider the list 
+first before making offers. If a person is not suitable, tell them so 
+they can move on, perhaps package for another distro, whatever. Don't 
+just leave them there to rot.
+
+Tuxta
+
+On 15/02/12 18:15, Shlomi Fish wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi Kyle,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 21:15:46 -0600
+</I>&gt;<i> Kyle Fletcher&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">kfletcher87 at gmail.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello all,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've been looking for a distro to join for awhile now and finally
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> landed with mageia.  I'm relatively new to it, but have enjoyed it so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> far.  I've started teaching myself how to package and have packaged
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> two things so far.  (very unstable, but i'm working on it).  I have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> also put my name and info on the wiki
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager</A> so if there is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> anyone out there that would like to mentor me please let me know.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm also usually in IRC all the time under the name vitamin{, tho afk alot :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm willing to mentor you. Just note that I'm working on Wednesday, Thursday
+</I>&gt;<i> and part of Sunday and don't have access to a Mageia system there (or
+</I>&gt;<i> can authenticate for my Mageia account).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 	Shlomi Fish
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+<PRE>Le 15/02/2012 09:36, Andres Kaaber a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I dont know if its a dracut problem or new kernel but with latest
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel + dracut I cant boot - kernel panic ... couldn't mount
+</I>&gt;<i> something :) i can check it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/2/15 Olav Vitters&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 03:55:17PM +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Can everyone please test the new dracut please? Especially those of you
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> who had issues previously that I was able to fix. I just want to make
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sure I didn't drop any patches that were still needed and make sure new
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> regressions have not snuck in.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Only ever had non-existent swap problem with Dracut. Tried
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dracut-015-1.mga2.. still booted. Didn't try the -2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Olav
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Same here.
+
+Cordialement,
+Paulo SANTOS
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 15/02/12 10:09 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie skrev 15.2.2012 11:35:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and David W. Hodgins at 14/02/12 23:21 did gyre and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:55:17 -0500, Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Can everyone please test the new dracut please? Especially those of you
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'll test it shortly.  I think there is a slight problem when dracut
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gets
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> updated at the same time as the kernel, udev, or anything else that is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> going to get installed in the initramfs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Rather then triggering the running of dracut when the kernel gets
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installed,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think it would be better to have something that runs at the end of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> urpmi
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> or MageiaUpdate, that check to see if dracut or anything in the existing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> initramfs has been updated, and if so, then run dracut.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The best I can do from kernel pov is to change %post into %posttrans so
+</I>&gt;<i> creating initrd would happend at end of install transaction
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Strangely enough I was thinking vaguely along the same lines. My issue
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> was udev specifically. Sadly working out exactly when to rebuild the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> initramfs is pretty tricky, e.g. if lvm or dm tools are updated do we
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> really need them in this particular setup's initramfs? Should we rebuild
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> anyway (it should be safe) and accept the unnecessary work in those
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cases? Might be a reasonable thing to do...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;it should be safe&quot; - famous last words... :)
+</I>
+:<i>)
+</I>
+&gt;&gt;<i> I guess then a filetrigger could be written that checks for files
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> certain locations and triggers an initrd rebuild. For the kernel it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would only build one, but for udev, dm, lvm etc. it would rebuild all of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> them...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> We should _never_ rebuild all initrds.
+</I>&gt;<i> If/when one of the updated packaged has a critical systemcrashing bug,
+</I>&gt;<i> we render the whole system unbootable.
+</I>
+Did we not used to do it when e.g. the bootspash theme changed? I
+remember a while back I had a problem as my /boot was quite modest and
+it ended up getting filled up with lots of .old files for the initrds....
+
+That said, I can't really disagree.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Might confuse some people however and create cases working systems are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> hosed unnecessarily, and I'm not sure how much of real, practical
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> problem it is to simply have a slightly outdated tools in the initram
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fs? Perhaps we just need to get ordering better on updates such that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> udev, lvm, dm etc. are all ordered before kernel during updates? Maybe
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that will solve 95% of the issues?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> That could be an option of we can get the tools to differentiate between
+</I>&gt;<i> high-priority (glibc/rpm/urpm*/...), priority (udev/lvm/dm/...) and the
+</I>&gt;<i> rest...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Otoh, most of the issues we see now is Cauldron -&gt; Cauldron updates.
+</I>&gt;<i> in a stable release many of the packages wont change.
+</I>
+Yeah I think overall Cauldron-&gt;Cauldron is not that important in the
+overall scheme of things. Users hear should be able to rebuild their
+initrd with a quick command or two easily enough when needed.
+
+&gt;<i> Of course that still leaves distro upgrades, but maybe that can be
+</I>&gt;<i> handled in the installer or by adding versionated conflicts to kernel
+</I>&gt;<i> to help urpmi figure out the order to update...
+</I>
+Yeah, that's probably a good shout. Just before release, we can put a
+&quot;Conflicts: udev &lt; $latest&quot; and similar stuff into the kernel... that
+would likely catch most potential problems.
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+Col
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
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+<PRE>On 15 February 2012 10:39, Pa&#239;ou &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">paiiou at free.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Is there any other modification to be added to this package
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; (especially meta-task)? If not I will update it tonight for first set
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; of isos.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If it is not too late, I would wish that the relative clause in bug 3060 is
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;also integrated in meta-task.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think that it would maybe allow to reduce the size of the packages
+</I>&gt;<i> of a dual-arch CD.
+</I>&gt;<i> With the proposed modification, the minimal installation, such as I make it
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;(minimal installation + X server) + IceWM-light + urpmi)
+</I>&gt;<i> asks only env 580 packages, instead of 847 otherwise.
+</I>
+1) please quote only what's needed
+
+2) kdm was selected because some packages suggested or required dm.
+   now only xguest requires dm.
+   let's just kill that requires and voila
+   nothing related to meta-task...
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+<PRE>Am 14.02.2012 19:36, schrieb Thierry Vignaud:
+&gt;<i> On 14 February 2012 18:39, Florian Hubold &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Somehow related, i just did some rpm size comparisons for thunderbird
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -l10n packages, to see what can be gained if we switch them back to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> uncompressing the (zipped) .xpi files and so let them profit from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rpm binary payload compression. It's not much for a single package,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but overall it's a reduction by 35%.
+</I>&gt;<i> So we save a little space from DVDs but we'll quite a lot more on the
+</I>&gt;<i> installed systems...
+</I>&gt;<i> Bad tradeoff IMHO...
+</I>Seriously? Smaller packages means quicker updates and less traffic,
+less mirror space used, more iso space available, marginally faster
+program runtime due to no on-the-fly decompression needed etc.
+
+And disk space is cheap, maybe not dirt-cheap anymore, considering
+the raise in prizes during the Thailand flood last year, but stilll ...
+Also normally you only install one language pack ...
+
+Comparison for disk-space used when installed (german language packe):
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+uncompressed:
+2,1M
+
+.xpi, zip-compressed:
+412K
+&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe this is a viable solution for other packages too, which currently
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> carry files which are already compressed when building.
+</I>&gt;<i> That would only waste more space on installed systemdsif we
+</I>&gt;<i> uncompress man pages, info pages &amp; the like too...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Nope, as that would be against the policy, those should stay (.xz) compressed.
+I though of other situations like for firefox/thunderbird language packs,
+where we can save some space. And IMHO we need that, see previous post
+about iso size, as packages increased their size significantly, so IMHO we
+have to do a tradeoff, otherwise the installation media package selection
+will get smaller and smaller over time.
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Florian Hubold at 15/02/12 11:51 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Am 14.02.2012 19:36, schrieb Thierry Vignaud:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 14 February 2012 18:39, Florian Hubold &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Somehow related, i just did some rpm size comparisons for thunderbird
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -l10n packages, to see what can be gained if we switch them back to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> uncompressing the (zipped) .xpi files and so let them profit from
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpm binary payload compression. It's not much for a single package,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but overall it's a reduction by 35%.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So we save a little space from DVDs but we'll quite a lot more on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installed systems...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Bad tradeoff IMHO...
+</I>&gt;<i> Seriously? Smaller packages means quicker updates and less traffic,
+</I>&gt;<i> less mirror space used, more iso space available, marginally faster
+</I>&gt;<i> program runtime due to no on-the-fly decompression needed etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And disk space is cheap, maybe not dirt-cheap anymore, considering
+</I>&gt;<i> the raise in prizes during the Thailand flood last year, but stilll ...
+</I>
+Yeah but also a lot of people are now switching to fast, but small SSDs.
+On these types of install space is at a premium, so I'd welcome anything
+that keeps the things I don't use super often as small and compact as
+possible.
+
+SSD space is not cheap. Everything is a trade off.
+
+&gt;<i> Also normally you only install one language pack ...
+</I>
+I agree with this bit, but some language packs can be pretty large
+uncompressed...
+
+What would maybe be nice is compromise that should maybe be planned for
+mga3...  where the data is non-compressed in the package, but
+re-compressed during install. Packages are smaller, but installed space
+is the same at the expense of extra install time. It's still a trade off
+and it (might) make packaging more hassle (calculating hashes may be
+awkward), but otherwise I'd say it's a win (tho' I fully accept that's
+subjective).
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+&gt;<i> Of course that still leaves distro upgrades, but maybe that can be handled
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+    <B>Pa&#239;ou</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 2) kdm was selected because some packages suggested or required dm.
+</I>&gt;<i>    now only xguest requires dm.
+</I>&gt;<i>    let's just kill that requires and voila
+</I>&gt;<i>    nothing related to meta-task...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>Thank you for this very interesting answer.
+I thus have to look for which package asks xguest.
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+At the level of a minimal installation, I do not think that xguest is necessary.
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+&gt;<i> And the correct fix needs more coding since arm does not support xz
+</I>&gt;<i> compressed modules so we need to adapt for that too, and not blindly
+</I>&gt;<i> recompress to .xz or search for .xz only...
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+Well both stage1 &amp; stage2 now expect XZ compressed modules.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;<i> 2) kdm was selected because some packages suggested or required dm.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;now only xguest requires dm.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;let's just kill that requires and voila
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;nothing related to meta-task...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank you for this very interesting answer.
+</I>&gt;<i> I thus have to look for which package asks xguest.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At the level of a minimal installation, I do not think that xguest is necessary.
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+xguest is pulled by userdrake and also by drakx installer if
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+    <B>zezinho</B> 
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 15 f&#233;vrier 2012 21:41:32, Steven Tucker a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Kyle has indeed added his name to the list, however there are 5 people
+</I>&gt;<i> on the list before him, I have been on that list since mid January, and
+</I>&gt;<i> there is someone who has been waiting since late November.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> All things being equal, shouldn't preference be given to the top
+</I>&gt;<i> (longest waiting) of the list?
+</I>
+You are right. The only reason for this not to work is of someone already 
+knows a contributor. We should be carefull with that, as mentoring is about 
+respect.
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+    <B>Thomas Backlund</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 15 February 2012 09:55, Thomas Backlund&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And the correct fix needs more coding since arm does not support xz
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> compressed modules so we need to adapt for that too, and not blindly
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> recompress to .xz or search for .xz only...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well both stage1&amp;  stage2 now expect XZ compressed modules.
+</I>&gt;<i> What's the issue on ARM? The kernel decompressor?
+</I>
+yes.
+
+There are patches suggested/queued for 3.4 to get full XZ support for 
+arm so maybe we can backport them for 3.3 depending on how intrusive 
+they are...
+
+Thinking some more about the issue, adding something like .[g,x]z to
+to the module detection wouldn't be much coding at all and would cover
+both compressions, wdyt ?
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+--
+Thomas
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+    <B>Pierre-Malo Denielou</B> 
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+<PRE>On 15/02/12 03:15, Kyle Fletcher wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello all,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I've been looking for a distro to join for awhile now and finally
+</I>&gt;<i> landed with mageia.  I'm relatively new to it, but have enjoyed it so
+</I>&gt;<i> far.  I've started teaching myself how to package and have packaged
+</I>&gt;<i> two things so far.  (very unstable, but i'm working on it).  I have
+</I>&gt;<i> also put my name and info on the wiki
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager</A> so if there is
+</I>&gt;<i> anyone out there that would like to mentor me please let me know.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm also usually in IRC all the time under the name vitamin{, tho afk alot :)
+</I>
+You did it!
+
+Welcome to the club!
+
+-- 
+Malo
+<A HREF="http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~malo/">http://www.doc.ic.ac.uk/~malo/</A>
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 15 February 2012 14:04, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> Well both stage1&amp; &#160;stage2 now expect XZ compressed modules.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What's the issue on ARM? The kernel decompressor?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> yes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are patches suggested/queued for 3.4 to get full XZ support for arm so
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe we can backport them for 3.3 depending on how intrusive they are...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thinking some more about the issue, adding something like .[g,x]z to
+</I>&gt;<i> to the module detection wouldn't be much coding at all and would cover
+</I>&gt;<i> both compressions, wdyt ?
+</I>
+For stage2, I've made list_modules.pm &amp; modules.pm accept both.
+Same for drakx-installer-images (besides the gz-&gt;xz recompression
+(which BTW I dropped this morning)).
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+But stage1 only handle XZ (modules.c::kernel_module_extension()
+It would need be adapted to try both gz &amp; XZ (mdk-stage1/modules.c)
+Also d-i-images compress initrd as xz
+
+We could alter d-i-binaries &amp; d-i-images handle both gz &amp; xz,
+but I think it would be simpler if we merge those patches so
+that kernel support is the same across the architectures.
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+Anyway, ARM support doesn't look up to date against ia32 &amp;
+x86_64 regarding packages &amp; the like so I think ARM port
+can wait a kernel with proper support.
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+    <B>Pierre-Malo Denielou</B> 
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+<PRE>On 15/02/12 20:41, Steven Tucker wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like to make comment on the Mentoring system, and hopefully I will
+</I>&gt;<i> convey it, and be interpreted in the best possible spirit.
+</I>&gt;<i> I am glad Kyle has now had an offer to be mentored and by no means wish to stop
+</I>&gt;<i> this or interfere in anyway, however I felt quite deflated when I read the offer
+</I>&gt;<i> to mentor him, and I imagine others would too, so I feel obligated to comment.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> There is a list on the wiki of people looking for mentors
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager#Packaging_apprentice_candidates">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager#Packaging_apprentice_candidates</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Kyle has indeed added his name to the list, however there are 5 people on the
+</I>&gt;<i> list before him, I have been on that list since mid January, and there is
+</I>&gt;<i> someone who has been waiting since late November.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> All things being equal, shouldn't preference be given to the top (longest
+</I>&gt;<i> waiting) of the list?
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there a reason why 5 people get overlooked, and someone who has been waiting
+</I>&gt;<i> 2 days is given a chance? If we are not as committed/capable/available/desirable
+</I>&gt;<i> can someone please let us know? I have already packaged a program I wrote and
+</I>&gt;<i> want added to Mageia, and I wait patiently for a Mentor, just to find the line
+</I>&gt;<i> has been cut.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Do I need to constantly have IRC on to be chosen? is there some unwritten rules
+</I>&gt;<i> about how to gain a mentor? If so please let me know so I can do these things.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I hope this is taken constructively, I don't wish for the mentoring offer to
+</I>&gt;<i> Kyle to be withdrawn, he sounds like he will be an asset to the packaging team,
+</I>&gt;<i> I do think though that you should consider the list first before making offers.
+</I>&gt;<i> If a person is not suitable, tell them so they can move on, perhaps package for
+</I>&gt;<i> another distro, whatever. Don't just leave them there to rot.
+</I>&gt;<i> Tuxta
+</I>
+Hi Steven,
+
+I understand your frustration. this list on the wiki is not really working at
+the moment.
+You however need to understand that we are all volunteers and busy with other
+tasks (like mga2). So finding a mentor also supposes that potential mentors see
+(repeatedly) your will to participate. That's why coming to talk on IRC,
+(notably #mageia-mentoring where we can help you learn the first steps of
+packaging, even without a mentor), filling bugs or commenting on them, writing
+to the mailing-list (even if it's just a reminder that you are looking for a
+mentor) are all things that will make you known by the community and find a mentor.
+In a way, you message is the illustration of what you should do (although the
+long message you wrote is not that necessary :-) ).
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+BTW, I can be your mentor if you're motivated and don't mind using IRC :-).
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+Cheers,
+-- 
+Malo
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+<PRE>In case people want to assist. I'm busy cleaning up all the GNOME
+related spec files. If you want to do some simple work (instead of
+beta1, general bug fixing, etc), then feel free to help out!
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+If you want to assist, do the following do download all GNOME spec files
+in one go:
+  mkdir ~/src ~/bin ~/pkgs
+  cd ~/src
+  svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/mga-gnome/trunk">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/mga-gnome/trunk</A> mga-gnome
+  cd ~/bin
+  ln -s ~/src/mga-gnome mga-gnome
+  mga-gnome co
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+Then find spec files to work on using:
+  grep -r '^%clean$' --exclude='*~' --exclude-dir=.svn --exclude-dir=SOURCES --exclude-dir=BUILD ~/pkgs
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+What I look at while cleaning up:
+- remove BuildRoot:
+- remove unneeded post/pre
+- ensure everything uses tabs
+- remove the default defattr
+- remove default %clean section
+- move any define name/release/version to Name:, Release:, Version:
+- ensure Source: is similar to <A HREF="http://download.gnome.org/sources/%{name">http://download.gnome.org/sources/%{name</A>}/%{url_ver}/%{name}-%{version}.tar.xz
+  thanks to: %define url_ver %(echo %{version}|cut -d. -f1,2)
+
+There are loads of build failures, which needs to be looked at. But atm
+just focussing on cleaning spec files only. If it fails to build, I only
+check if that was a typo on my part or not. This as there are hundreds
+of spec files to clean.
+
+Build failures are various; missing buildrequires, lack of libm linking,
+missing .la files, newer glib (not including just glib.h), etc, etc.
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+Regards,
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+&gt;<i> On 15 February 2012 11:09, Thomas Backlund &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Of course that still leaves distro upgrades, but maybe that can be handled
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in the installer or by adding versionated conflicts to kernel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to help urpmi figure out the order to update...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I think the best thing would make kernel conflict with older
+</I>&gt;<i> drakcut/udev/lvm2/dm*
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+Aye.
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+&gt;<i> Tradeoff is that we've to maintain those for all kernel flavors...
+</I>
+Time for a task-initramfs?
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+Col
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 15/02/12 12:30 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 15 February 2012 11:09, Thomas Backlund&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Of course that still leaves distro upgrades, but maybe that can be handled
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in the installer or by adding versionated conflicts to kernel
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to help urpmi figure out the order to update...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think the best thing would make kernel conflict with older
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> drakcut/udev/lvm2/dm*
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Well,
+all kernels already requires(pre) a versioned dracut, so that is 
+covered. I just bump that as needed...
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+&gt;<i> Aye.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Tradeoff is that we've to maintain those for all kernel flavors...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Time for a task-initramfs?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Or maybe add the conflicts on dracut as that is the package we &quot;worry 
+about&quot;...
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+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie skrev 15.2.2012 16:31:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 15/02/12 12:30 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 15 February 2012 11:09, Thomas Backlund&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">tmb at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Of course that still leaves distro upgrades, but maybe that can be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> handled
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> in the installer or by adding versionated conflicts to kernel
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to help urpmi figure out the order to update...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think the best thing would make kernel conflict with older
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> drakcut/udev/lvm2/dm*
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Well,
+</I>&gt;<i> all kernels already requires(pre) a versioned dracut, so that is
+</I>&gt;<i> covered. I just bump that as needed...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Aye.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Tradeoff is that we've to maintain those for all kernel flavors...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Time for a task-initramfs?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Or maybe add the conflicts on dracut as that is the package we &quot;worry
+</I>&gt;<i> about&quot;...
+</I>
+Yeah that's probably neater than YATP :)
+
+COl
+
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop">olav at vitters.nl
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+    <I>Wed Feb 15 16:38:22 CET 2012</I>
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+Submission errors, aborting:
+- yelp-3.3.3-2.mga2.x86_64:
+ - invalid-desktopfile /usr/share/applications/yelp.desktop value &quot;GNOME;Unity;&quot; for key &quot;OnlyShowIn&quot; in group &quot;Desktop
+- yelp-3.3.3-2.mga2.i586:
+ - invalid-desktopfile /usr/share/applications/yelp.desktop value &quot;GNOME;Unity;&quot; for key &quot;OnlyShowIn&quot; in group &quot;Desktop
+
+
+Unity is a valid and registered desktop. Desktop-file-utils validates it
+as of version 0.19. Above submission check is outdated and wrong. Please
+fix the check so I can submit it again.
+
+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 15/02/2012 15:05, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> What I look at while cleaning up:
+</I>&gt;<i> - remove BuildRoot:
+</I>&gt;<i> - remove unneeded post/pre
+</I>&gt;<i> - ensure everything uses tabs
+</I>That's not really cleaning up, that's enforcing your own cosmetic 
+preferences. Whereas you're perfectly legitimate to manage your own spec 
+files the way you want, this is slightly more ennoying for files shipped 
+in those packages, notably the one generated from spec files through 
+herein documents (for instance, apache, logrotate, cron files, etc...)
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+I'd rally prefer to have a bit more consistency here, not depending 
+about individual maintainer preferences. Of course, if I'm reacting 
+here, it's because everyone know than tab sucks :P
+-- 
+BOFH excuse #382:
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+Someone was smoking in the computer room and set off the halon systems.
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+<PRE>On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 04:43:04PM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 15/02/2012 15:05, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;What I look at while cleaning up:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;- remove BuildRoot:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;- remove unneeded post/pre
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;- ensure everything uses tabs
+</I>&gt;<i> That's not really cleaning up, that's enforcing your own cosmetic
+</I>&gt;<i> preferences. Whereas you're perfectly legitimate to manage your own
+</I>&gt;<i> spec files the way you want, this is slightly more ennoying for
+</I>&gt;<i> files shipped in those packages, notably the one generated from spec
+</I>&gt;<i> files through herein documents (for instance, apache, logrotate,
+</I>&gt;<i> cron files, etc...)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd rally prefer to have a bit more consistency here, not depending
+</I>&gt;<i> about individual maintainer preferences. Of course, if I'm reacting
+</I>&gt;<i> here, it's because everyone know than tab sucks :P
+</I>
+You only mean my tabs comment I assume? I remembered that everything
+should be tabs (during mentoring). If up to the maintainer, of course I
+won't change it anymore, except if inconsistent.
+I noticed some spec files have mostly tabs, except for a few lines. But
+have also changed whole spec files to use tabs. Most of the spec files I
+look at use tabs.
+
+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 04:43:04PM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 15/02/2012 15:05, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;What I look at while cleaning up:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;- remove BuildRoot:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;- remove unneeded post/pre
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;- ensure everything uses tabs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's not really cleaning up, that's enforcing your own cosmetic
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> preferences. Whereas you're perfectly legitimate to manage your own
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> spec files the way you want, this is slightly more ennoying for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> files shipped in those packages, notably the one generated from spec
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> files through herein documents (for instance, apache, logrotate,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cron files, etc...)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'd rally prefer to have a bit more consistency here, not depending
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> about individual maintainer preferences. Of course, if I'm reacting
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> here, it's because everyone know than tab sucks :P
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You only mean my tabs comment I assume? I remembered that everything
+</I>&gt;<i> should be tabs (during mentoring).
+</I>
+The current rule is only that you should not mix them inside one spec file.
+
+&gt;<i> If up to the maintainer, of course I
+</I>&gt;<i> won't change it anymore, except if inconsistent.
+</I>&gt;<i> I noticed some spec files have mostly tabs, except for a few lines. But
+</I>&gt;<i> have also changed whole spec files to use tabs. Most of the spec files I
+</I>&gt;<i> look at use tabs.
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+&gt;<i> I got the following submission error:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Submission errors, aborting:
+</I>&gt;<i> - yelp-3.3.3-2.mga2.x86_64:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- invalid-desktopfile /usr/share/applications/yelp.desktop value &quot;GNOME;Unity;&quot; for key &quot;OnlyShowIn&quot; in group &quot;Desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> - yelp-3.3.3-2.mga2.i586:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;- invalid-desktopfile /usr/share/applications/yelp.desktop value &quot;GNOME;Unity;&quot; for key &quot;OnlyShowIn&quot; in group &quot;Desktop
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Unity is a valid and registered desktop. Desktop-file-utils validates it
+</I>&gt;<i> as of version 0.19. Above submission check is outdated and wrong. Please
+</I>&gt;<i> fix the check so I can submit it again.
+</I>
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+<PRE>On 14.02.2012 22:44, Jani V&#228;limaa wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2012/2/14 barjac &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Name        : c++-gtk-utils                Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Version     : 2.0.4                             Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Release     : 1.mga2                        Build Date: Tue Feb 14 19:36:12 2012
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed)               Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Group       : System/Libraries              Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Size        : 2000191                          License: GPLv2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Signature   : (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Packager    : barjac &lt;barjac&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> URL         : <A HREF="http://cxx-gtk-utils.sourceforge.net">http://cxx-gtk-utils.sourceforge.net</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Summary     : GTK+-based ISO image editor
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> c++-gtk-utils is a lightweight library containing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a number of classes and functions for programming
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> GTK+ programs using C++ in POSIX (Unix-like) environments,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> where the user does not want to use a full-on wrapper such
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as gtkmm or wxWidgets, or is concerned about exception safety
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or thread safety of the wrapper and their documentation.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is parallel installable for both GTK+2 and GTK+3.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> barjac &lt;barjac&gt; 2.0.4-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 208908
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - &amp;.mga2- del *.a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - imported package c++-gtk-utils
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> You should avoid using macros in commit msgs or at least escape them
+</I>&gt;<i> (%mkrel -&gt; %%mkrel) or use mgarepo to commit changes which does it
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Commit msgs &quot;%mkrel &amp; spelling error&quot; and &quot;del *.a&quot; looks now in
+</I>&gt;<i> changelog like &quot;- &amp;.mga2- del *.a&quot;.
+</I>
+Err no, this is an mgarepo regression. It should automatically escape
+the logs when it fetches the log from SVN, and double-checking confirms
+that mdv repsys does it correctly.
+
+Or has this been intentionally changed at some point??
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+<PRE>On 15.02.2012 18:38, Anssi Hannula wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 14.02.2012 22:44, Jani V&#228;limaa wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/2/14 barjac &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Name        : c++-gtk-utils                Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Version     : 2.0.4                             Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Release     : 1.mga2                        Build Date: Tue Feb 14 19:36:12 2012
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed)               Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Group       : System/Libraries              Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Size        : 2000191                          License: GPLv2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Signature   : (none)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Packager    : barjac &lt;barjac&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> URL         : <A HREF="http://cxx-gtk-utils.sourceforge.net">http://cxx-gtk-utils.sourceforge.net</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Summary     : GTK+-based ISO image editor
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> c++-gtk-utils is a lightweight library containing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> a number of classes and functions for programming
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> GTK+ programs using C++ in POSIX (Unix-like) environments,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> where the user does not want to use a full-on wrapper such
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> as gtkmm or wxWidgets, or is concerned about exception safety
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> or thread safety of the wrapper and their documentation.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It is parallel installable for both GTK+2 and GTK+3.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> barjac &lt;barjac&gt; 2.0.4-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 208908
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - &amp;.mga2- del *.a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - imported package c++-gtk-utils
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You should avoid using macros in commit msgs or at least escape them
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (%mkrel -&gt; %%mkrel) or use mgarepo to commit changes which does it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> automatically.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Commit msgs &quot;%mkrel &amp; spelling error&quot; and &quot;del *.a&quot; looks now in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> changelog like &quot;- &amp;.mga2- del *.a&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Err no, this is an mgarepo regression. It should automatically escape
+</I>&gt;<i> the logs when it fetches the log from SVN, and double-checking confirms
+</I>&gt;<i> that mdv repsys does it correctly.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Or has this been intentionally changed at some point??
+</I>
+Actually, scratch that. There is just a bug that escaping isn't done
+correctly when '%' is the first character of an SVN log message line.
+
+MgaRepo/log.py:
+unescaped_macro_pat = re.compile(r&quot;([^%])%([^%])&quot;)
+
+This matches &quot;x%foo&quot;, but doesn't match &quot;%foo&quot;.
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wed, 15 Feb 2012, Anssi Hannula wrote:
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+&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Err no, this is an mgarepo regression. It should automatically escape
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the logs when it fetches the log from SVN, and double-checking confirms
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that mdv repsys does it correctly.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Or has this been intentionally changed at some point??
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Actually, scratch that. There is just a bug that escaping isn't done
+</I>&gt;<i> correctly when '%' is the first character of an SVN log message line.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> MgaRepo/log.py:
+</I>&gt;<i> unescaped_macro_pat = re.compile(r&quot;([^%])%([^%])&quot;)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This matches &quot;x%foo&quot;, but doesn't match &quot;%foo&quot;.
+</I>
+I have commited this change to fix the problem :
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/build_system/mgarepo/trunk/MgaRepo/log.py?r1=265&amp;r2=2956&amp;view=patch">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/build_system/mgarepo/trunk/MgaRepo/log.py?r1=265&amp;r2=2956&amp;view=patch</A>
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+&gt;<i> 14.02.2012 21:50, Juan Luis Baptiste skrev:
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Guillaume Rousse
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">guillomovitch at gmail.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 14/02/2012 19:58, Juan Luis Baptiste a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>        
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Can you check if systemd has forked mingetty for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> text consoles yet?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>            
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'm using sysvinit not systemd.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>          
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Try systemd then...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>        
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But isn't sysvinit to be the default for mga 2 and the switch to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> systemd is going to be for mga 3 ? or I'm missing something ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd will be default for Mageia 2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> sysvinit is only a fallback for systems that dont work with systemd &quot;yet&quot;...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> sysvinit (and mkinitrd) will be completely removed as soon as Cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> opens up again after Mageia 2 release.
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>As I understood it, it was explicitly decided that systemd was to be an 
+option for mga2, with sysvinit remaining the default.
+And hopefully systemd was to be the default for mga3, with sysvinit removed.
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+Also, cauldron switched temporarily to systemd as default in order to 
+more fully test it.  But to revert to sysvinit as the default for mga2 
+release.
+
+When did this change ?
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+Andr&#233;
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+    <B>Juan Luis Baptiste</B> 
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As I understood it, it was explicitly decided that systemd was to be an
+</I>&gt;<i> option for mga2, with sysvinit remaining the default.
+</I>&gt;<i> And hopefully systemd was to be the default for mga3, with sysvinit removed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, cauldron switched temporarily to systemd as default in order to more
+</I>&gt;<i> fully test it. &#160;But to revert to sysvinit as the default for mga2 release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When did this change ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Exactly, that was what I thought was going to happen, I don't remember
+reading when this changed, at least I don't remember to have been
+mentioned on the list.
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+    <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> 
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+&gt;<i> As I understood it, it was explicitly decided that systemd was to be an 
+</I>&gt;<i> option for mga2, with sysvinit remaining the default.
+</I>&gt;<i> And hopefully systemd was to be the default for mga3, with sysvinit removed.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, cauldron switched temporarily to systemd as default in order to 
+</I>&gt;<i> more fully test it. &#160;But to revert to sysvinit as the default for mga2 
+</I>&gt;<i> release.
+</I>
+I thought this was the case, too.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 15/02/12 09:36 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and David W. Hodgins at 15/02/12 01:38 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:55:17 -0500, Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Can everyone please test the new dracut please? Especially those of you
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> With dracut-015-2, / on a partition, /usr on a lvm logical volume, the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> initramfs no longer has the lvm2 command, or the dm_mod kernel module
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> making it impossible to mount /usr.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The file 50mount-usr.sh is present in hooks/pre-pivot, but the file
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 30parse-lvm.sh is no longer in hooks/cmdline.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Damn, it looked like the code was OK for that. I'll have to reintroduce
+</I>&gt;<i> some patches I guess.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers for the report, I'll try and create a similar VM tonight.
+</I>
+OK, that was a very strange quirk.... it all boiled down to a string
+comparison function :s
+
+Can you try with dracut-015-3.mga2 when it arrives?
+
+If you cannot boot, you can just pass rd.lvm.lv=foo/bar on the kernel
+command line (where foo is the vgname and bar is the lvname)... tho'
+this might or might not work too well as lvm might not be on the initrd
+itself.... Even if it's not included, it however possible to run
+things... with our current split of /usr (I was able to run the
+necessary binaries from /sysroot with appropriate LD_LIBRARY_PATH tweaks!)
+
+Col
+
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> To-do before the version freeze (I think, I can finish it tonight):
+</I>&gt;<i> - review additional ~50 hunspell dicts and use better obsoletion of 
+</I>&gt;<i> myspell
+</I>&gt;<i> - stop providing enchant-dictionary in 2/3 aspell dicts
+</I>Done.
+All Hunspell dictionaries are ready, Aspell one are cleaned and Myspell 
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+&gt;<i> OK, that was a very strange quirk.... it all boiled down to a string
+</I>&gt;<i> comparison function :s
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you try with dracut-015-3.mga2 when it arrives?
+</I>
+Still doesn't work.
+
+&gt;<i> If you cannot boot, you can just pass rd.lvm.lv=foo/bar on the kernel
+</I>&gt;<i> command line (where foo is the vgname and bar is the lvname)... tho'
+</I>&gt;<i> this might or might not work too well as lvm might not be on the initrd
+</I>
+The lvm command and the dm_mod kernel module are not in the initramfs.
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+I'm using chroot from Mageia 1, to access the system.
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+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>Hello Steven!
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like to make comment on the Mentoring system, and hopefully I 
+</I>&gt;<i> will convey it, and be interpreted in the best possible spirit.
+</I>&gt;<i> I am glad Kyle has now had an offer to be mentored and by no means 
+</I>&gt;<i> wish to stop this or interfere in anyway, however I felt quite 
+</I>&gt;<i> deflated when I read the offer to mentor him, and I imagine others 
+</I>&gt;<i> would too, so I feel obligated to comment.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is a list on the wiki of people looking for mentors
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager#Packaging_apprentice_candidates">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager#Packaging_apprentice_candidates</A> 
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Kyle has indeed added his name to the list, however there are 5 people 
+</I>&gt;<i> on the list before him, I have been on that list since mid January, 
+</I>&gt;<i> and there is someone who has been waiting since late November.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All things being equal, shouldn't preference be given to the top 
+</I>&gt;<i> (longest waiting) of the list?
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there a reason why 5 people get overlooked, and someone who has 
+</I>&gt;<i> been waiting 2 days is given a chance? 
+</I>There are lot kinds of packages in Mageia (C++, documentation, Java, 
+Gnome, KDE, web, kernel, assembler, Perl, Haskell, XFCE4, Ruby, Ocaml, 
+...) and usually mentors take these apprentice candidates, where there 
+is a common field of shared interests.
+&gt;<i> If we are not as committed/capable/available/desirable can someone 
+</I>&gt;<i> please let us know?
+</I>Don't think like that please! As wiki says, the most important is 
+enthusiasm! I have seen that even qualified computer scientists cannot 
+finish the mentoring process due to lack of enthusiasm (they need to 
+dedicate their free time to the project).
+&gt;<i> I have already packaged a program I wrote and want added to Mageia, 
+</I>&gt;<i> and I wait patiently for a Mentor, just to find the line has been cut.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do I need to constantly have IRC on to be chosen?
+</I>Of course not! It's individual flavour of communication, some people 
+prefer IRC, some e-mails, some other ways to communicate.
+&gt;<i> is there some unwritten rules about how to gain a mentor? If so please 
+</I>&gt;<i> let me know so I can do these things.
+</I>There is probably one thing &quot;unwritten&quot;, just trying to ping developers 
+helps in finding. Kyle was asking several times on IRC for mentor.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I hope this is taken constructively, I don't wish for the mentoring 
+</I>&gt;<i> offer to Kyle to be withdrawn, he sounds like he will be an asset to 
+</I>&gt;<i> the packaging team, I do think though that you should consider the 
+</I>&gt;<i> list first before making offers. If a person is not suitable, tell 
+</I>&gt;<i> them so they can move on, perhaps package for another distro, 
+</I>&gt;<i> whatever. Don't just leave them there to rot.
+</I>The truth is simple, we are short of packagers and therefore mentors. 
+Everybody with enthusiasm (even without great Unix skills) is welcome.
+
+I have mostly finished my project of the consolidation of spell-checkers 
+in Mga, that costed hundreds of commits, and now I feel ready to start 
+helping in the mentoring process.
+
+I have proposed to you and to Edward (edge226) to teach you packaging.
+To be clear, after reading your &quot;interests / skills / comments&quot;, I 
+decided that I can be a better mentor for you, according to the field of 
+interest.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Tuxta
+</I>
+Regards and welcome!
+
+Kamil
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+colin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i>   + tmb &lt;tmb&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>     - add info in README.urpmi that systemd users must use dracut
+</I>
+What does this mean?
+
+Currently I am booting with systemd-sysvinit and using mkinitrd.
+Is it going to now magically/tragically stop working?
+
+
+ 
+    Charles
+
+-- 
+The scissors cut easiest past the buttonhole
+		-- Murphy's Laws of Sewing n&#176;19
+----------------------
+Mageia release 2 (Cauldron) for x86_64$
+On SuperSize....<A HREF="http://www.eslrahc.com">http://www.eslrahc.com</A>
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 15:38, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I got the following submission error:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Submission errors, aborting:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - yelp-3.3.3-2.mga2.x86_64:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;  - invalid-desktopfile /usr/share/applications/yelp.desktop value &quot;GNOME;Unity;&quot; for key &quot;OnlyShowIn&quot; in group &quot;Desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - yelp-3.3.3-2.mga2.i586:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;  - invalid-desktopfile /usr/share/applications/yelp.desktop value &quot;GNOME;Unity;&quot; for key &quot;OnlyShowIn&quot; in group &quot;Desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Unity is a valid and registered desktop. Desktop-file-utils validates it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; as of version 0.19. Above submission check is outdated and wrong. Please
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; fix the check so I can submit it again.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I think the test is run on the server, meaning Mageia 1, which has 0.18
+</I>
+Yep.
+
+I guess that's time to test the new shiny sysadmin repo \o/
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+-- 
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+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 15 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 16:06 +0000, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 15:38, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I got the following submission error:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Submission errors, aborting:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; - yelp-3.3.3-2.mga2.x86_64:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;  - invalid-desktopfile /usr/share/applications/yelp.desktop value &quot;GNOME;Unity;&quot; for key &quot;OnlyShowIn&quot; in group &quot;Desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; - yelp-3.3.3-2.mga2.i586:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;  - invalid-desktopfile /usr/share/applications/yelp.desktop value &quot;GNOME;Unity;&quot; for key &quot;OnlyShowIn&quot; in group &quot;Desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Unity is a valid and registered desktop. Desktop-file-utils validates it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; as of version 0.19. Above submission check is outdated and wrong. Please
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; fix the check so I can submit it again.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think the test is run on the server, meaning Mageia 1, which has 0.18
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess that's time to test the new shiny sysadmin repo \o/
+</I>
+And to report that it doesn't work ( seems it cannot find glib-devel, so
+I assume 'wrong source configuration' ).
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+&gt;<i> Can you try with dracut-015-3.mga2 when it arrives?
+</I>
+See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4537">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4537</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Charles A Edwards at 16/02/12 04:53 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 01:05:15 +0100 (CET)
+</I>&gt;<i> colin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   + tmb &lt;tmb&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     - add info in README.urpmi that systemd users must use dracut
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> What does this mean?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Currently I am booting with systemd-sysvinit and using mkinitrd.
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it going to now magically/tragically stop working?
+</I>
+In certain circumstances, yes. If you have dm or raid or anything
+similar, mkinitrd simply won't work as systemd aims to be very much
+focused on hotplug, not on probing and poking as traditional systems
+used to work. This means that metadata about disks and drives must be
+available via udev. In the old mkinitrd approach, udev is not used and
+thus when lvm and friends are activated inside the initrd, the metadata
+does not make it through to udev and thus systemd cannot &quot;see&quot; various
+partitions and thus cannot mount filesystems etc.
+
+Using dracut means udev is in the initrd and metadata is available.
+
+This is why a systemd boot requires a dracut initrd. I'm not prepared to
+support any other combination as it just does not make sense.
+
+Can I ask why you are using mkinitrd anyway? What problem are you having
+with dracut? I need to make sure I find a way to fix any problems you
+have (obviously some problems with latest dracut are known and I'm
+working on fixes, just want to make sure I don't miss your issues)
+
+Col
+
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+<PRE>Using latest Cauldron - I get this error when trying to mount a normal
+CDROM under KDE Konqueror
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+An error occurred while accessing 'CISSP 5th Editio', the system
+responded: The requested operation has failed.: Error mounting: mount
+exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
+mount: mount point /media/cdrom does not exist
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+What could this be?
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+Thx,
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+
+due to the fact that this problem has already been encountered,
+it was brought up in yesterdays meeting that we need to discuss
+on a policy about how to handle unresponsive package maintainers,
+or if somebody is absent for a longer time (say more than a few days)
+we should also have guidelines or at least an official way to notify
+others of the absence.
+
+So to start and support the discussion, i've imported and adapted a
+Fedora policy on this subject into our wiki, the original version can
+be seen at:
+<A HREF="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Policy/NonResponsiveMaintainers">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PackageMaintainers/Policy/NonResponsiveMaintainers</A>
+I've imported it to:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Nonresponsive_package_maintainers">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Nonresponsive_package_maintainers</A>
+
+Remember this is just a proposal, so details may need to be readjusted,
+For example in place of the FESCo (Fedora Engineering Steering Committee)
+i've put a placeholder &quot;packaging team leader/representative/member&quot;
+but maybe this could also be a task for the council, it's just that we have
+a basis for discussion of the policy.
+
+About the absence, or if somebody is on vacation, i've imported also
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Absent">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Absent</A>
+So please add an entry there if you will be absent from Mageia
+contribution or not responding to emails/IRC for more than a few
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Robert Fox at 16/02/12 09:20 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Using latest Cauldron - I get this error when trying to mount a normal
+</I>&gt;<i> CDROM under KDE Konqueror
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> An error occurred while accessing 'CISSP 5th Editio', the system
+</I>&gt;<i> responded: The requested operation has failed.: Error mounting: mount
+</I>&gt;<i> exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
+</I>&gt;<i> mount: mount point /media/cdrom does not exist
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> What could this be?
+</I>
+KDE should create mountpoints as needed (and it shouldn't really use a
+fixed name &quot;cdrom&quot; here either).
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+Are you somehow still using HAL? Can you try stopping hald and see if
+things flip over to using a proper system?
+
+Otherwise we'll have to put a hack in somewhere to create /media/cdrom
+directory to cope with this limitation.
+
+Col
+
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+<PRE>On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 09:39 +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Robert Fox at 16/02/12 09:20 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Using latest Cauldron - I get this error when trying to mount a normal
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; CDROM under KDE Konqueror
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; An error occurred while accessing 'CISSP 5th Editio', the system
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; responded: The requested operation has failed.: Error mounting: mount
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mount: mount point /media/cdrom does not exist
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What could this be?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> KDE should create mountpoints as needed (and it shouldn't really use a
+</I>&gt;<i> fixed name &quot;cdrom&quot; here either).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Are you somehow still using HAL? Can you try stopping hald and see if
+</I>&gt;<i> things flip over to using a proper system?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Otherwise we'll have to put a hack in somewhere to create /media/cdrom
+</I>&gt;<i> directory to cope with this limitation.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+Thanks for the fast response Col - I do still have hal installed, and I
+stopped hald, but didn't seem to help.  BTW, it's safe to use
+&quot;drakxservices&quot; to start and stop services even though we are using
+systemd now, right??
+
+Cheers,
+Robert
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Robert Fox at 16/02/12 09:49 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Thanks for the fast response Col - I do still have hal installed, and I
+</I>&gt;<i> stopped hald, but didn't seem to help.  BTW, it's safe to use
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;drakxservices&quot; to start and stop services even though we are using
+</I>&gt;<i> systemd now, right??
+</I>
+Try disabling it via systemctl disable hald.service and reboot.
+
+You can use drakxservices to start/stop but it wont list non-sysvinit
+services. We need to port it. It was discussed the other day actually.
+
+Col
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>On Thu, 2012-02-16 at 09:53 +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Robert Fox at 16/02/12 09:49 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Thanks for the fast response Col - I do still have hal installed, and I
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; stopped hald, but didn't seem to help.  BTW, it's safe to use
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &quot;drakxservices&quot; to start and stop services even though we are using
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; systemd now, right??
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Try disabling it via systemctl disable hald.service and reboot.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> You can use drakxservices to start/stop but it wont list non-sysvinit
+</I>&gt;<i> services. We need to port it. It was discussed the other day actually.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+Removed hal altogether (urpme) - then got a strange list of orphans:
+
+The following packages:
+  hal-info-0.0-5.20091130.3.mga1.noarch
+  lib64boolstuff0.1_0-0.1.13-2.mga1.x86_64
+  lib64ffado2-2.0.1-5.mga2.x86_64
+  lib64vlccore4-1.1.13-1.mga2.tainted.x86_64
+  lib64xml++2.6_2-2.34.2-1.mga2.x86_64
+  quvi-0.4.1-1.mga2.x86_64
+  radeon-firmware-20110601-4.mga2.nonfree.noarch
+  usbutils-005-1.mga2.x86_64
+  x11-driver-video-ati-6.14.3-3.mga2.x86_64
+  x11-driver-video-cirrus-1.3.2-7.mga2.x86_64
+  x11-driver-video-fbdev-0.4.2-7.mga2.x86_64
+  x11-driver-video-glint-1.2.6-4.mga2.x86_64
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+Did not remove orphans, but rebooted and problem still exists as before
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+<PRE>colin skrev 16.2.2012 14:10:
+&gt;<i> Name        : rsyslog                      Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version     : 5.8.6                             Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release     : 2.mga2                        Build Date: Thu Feb 16 13:08:13 2012
+</I>
+[...]
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+&gt;<i> colin&lt;colin&gt;  5.8.6-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 209728
+</I>&gt;<i> - Do not enable kernel logging by default. Systemd's journal does that now.
+</I>
+What will this do for sysvinit users ?
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thomas Backlund at 16/02/12 12:30 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> colin skrev 16.2.2012 14:10:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Name        : rsyslog                      Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Version     : 5.8.6                             Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Release     : 2.mga2                        Build Date: Thu Feb 16
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 13:08:13 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> colin&lt;colin&gt;  5.8.6-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 209728
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Do not enable kernel logging by default. Systemd's journal does that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> now.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> What will this do for sysvinit users ?
+</I>
+I've got a modification to sysvinit package to put a log snippet in that
+folder that enables this module. So only if you have the sysvinit
+package installed will it be active.
+
+It's not a perfect solution, (as I currently have sysvinit installed and
+activate systemd via kernel command line for testing purposes), but I
+can't think of anything better...
+
+Col
+
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Romain d'Alverny</B> 
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+<PRE>Ping. Any other input, mentor candidate or project idea for a
+potential candidacy to this GSOC?
+
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/SummerOfCode2012">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/SummerOfCode2012</A>
+
+On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 23:38, Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">rdalverny at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 13:24, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Google announced during FOSDEM that the summer of code program 2012 have
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> been launched officially :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2012/02/google-summer-of-code-2012-is-on.html">http://google-opensource.blogspot.com/2012/02/google-summer-of-code-2012-is-on.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> From what I understand, we have about 2 weeks to be ready to apply.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What to do :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - complete the page started on the wiki. There is still various TODO to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> put what is still needed to be fixed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - add links to various sources of information, be it others
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> organisations applying, or summary of do and don't, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Updated small bits of it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - review
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/org_admin_agreement">http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2012/org_admin_agreement</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and see if we can accept that
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It looks acceptable to me. Everyone considering submitting a project
+</I>&gt;<i> and/or mentoring one should read it, btw; it takes 5 minutes.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - find a backup for the administration of the program. Also, if someone
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is volunteer to be the main admin, I would be relived &#160;to not be that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> one ( even if, as the one proposing that we participate, I am the de
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> facto volunteer for that position )
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can be an admin backup.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - clean the proposal page from drafts before applying
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Moving ideas/projects to
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Summer_coding_ideas_for_2012">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Summer_coding_ideas_for_2012</A> ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - apply
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I guess we could use a blog post for that, but we have first to speak of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fosdem, of the sysadmin trip to datacenter, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Right. As soon as we have enough people involved in that.
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+    <B>Damien Lallement</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 15/02/2012 11:46, paulo a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 15/02/2012 09:36, Andres Kaaber a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I dont know if its a dracut problem or new kernel but with latest
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kernel + dracut I cant boot - kernel panic ... couldn't mount
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> something :) i can check it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/2/15 Olav Vitters&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 03:55:17PM +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Can everyone please test the new dracut please? Especially those of you
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> who had issues previously that I was able to fix. I just want to make
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sure I didn't drop any patches that were still needed and make sure new
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> regressions have not snuck in.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Only ever had non-existent swap problem with Dracut. Tried
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dracut-015-1.mga2.. still booted. Didn't try the -2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Olav
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Same here.
+</I>
+Same for me: initrd only have '/bin/plymouth' inside...
+-- 
+Damien Lallement
+Treasurer of Mageia.Org
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Damien Lallement at 16/02/12 14:28 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Le 15/02/2012 11:46, paulo a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 15/02/2012 09:36, Andres Kaaber a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I dont know if its a dracut problem or new kernel but with latest
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> kernel + dracut I cant boot - kernel panic ... couldn't mount
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> something :) i can check it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/2/15 Olav Vitters&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 03:55:17PM +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Can everyone please test the new dracut please? Especially those of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> you
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> who had issues previously that I was able to fix. I just want to make
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sure I didn't drop any patches that were still needed and make sure
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> new
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> regressions have not snuck in.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Only ever had non-existent swap problem with Dracut. Tried
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dracut-015-1.mga2.. still booted. Didn't try the -2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -- 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Olav
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Same here.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Same for me: initrd only have '/bin/plymouth' inside...
+</I>
+Ouch...
+
+Can someone who can still boot (i.e. into older kernel) post a log of
+the dracut command and the output from lsinitrd on the resulting image?
+
+Cheers
+
+Col
+
+
+-- 
+
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+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+<PRE>15:48 &lt; ennael&gt; quick question about
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4011">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4011</A> c1215:48 &lt; ennael&gt; at the
+moment installing xguest pulls kdm
+15:49 &lt; ennael&gt; installing lxde from dvd is just pulling half of kde
+15:49 &lt; ennael&gt; wdyt about blino proposal ?
+Any feedback on this ?
+Thanks
+-- 
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+<PRE>After update to desktop-3.2.6-2.mga2 the system crashes short after
+start with the error messages:
+VFS: Cannot open root device &quot;UUID=......&quot; or unknown-block(0.0
+Please append a correct &quot;root=&quot; boot option: here are the available partitions:
+Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0.0)
+Call trace:
+....
+(As I am typing this I will not copy the full trace, if not needed)
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+1. Checked the entries in /boot/grub/menu.lst -&gt; the kernel line is ok
+(UID matches the entry for the previous kernel).
+2. Previous kernel boots ok
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+Is this temporary or should I report to bugzilla?
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+    <B>Henrik Christiansen</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Is this temporary or should I report to bugzilla?
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/2/16 Henrik Christiansen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">hc at henrikch.dk</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 2012-02-16 18:02, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is this temporary or should I report to bugzilla?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4541">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4541</A>
+</I>
+Oops! Sorry and thx Henrik
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+-- 
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+<PRE>Le 16/02/2012 15:51, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Damien Lallement at 16/02/12 14:28 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 15/02/2012 11:46, paulo a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 15/02/2012 09:36, Andres Kaaber a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I dont know if its a dracut problem or new kernel but with latest
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> kernel + dracut I cant boot - kernel panic ... couldn't mount
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> something :) i can check it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/2/15 Olav Vitters&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 03:55:17PM +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Can everyone please test the new dracut please? Especially those of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> you
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> who had issues previously that I was able to fix. I just want to make
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sure I didn't drop any patches that were still needed and make sure
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> new
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> regressions have not snuck in.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Only ever had non-existent swap problem with Dracut. Tried
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dracut-015-1.mga2.. still booted. Didn't try the -2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Olav
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Same here.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Same for me: initrd only have '/bin/plymouth' inside...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Ouch...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can someone who can still boot (i.e. into older kernel) post a log of
+</I>&gt;<i> the dracut command and the output from lsinitrd on the resulting image?
+</I>
+I only can send you my weird initrd:
+<A HREF="http://pastebin.com/LsAaTEiP">http://pastebin.com/LsAaTEiP</A>
+
+Running dracut again worked as expected...
+FYI, kernel and dracut were updated at the same time when I encountered 
+the bug. Perhaps a bad running when kernel + dracut at the same time?
+-- 
+Damien Lallement
+Treasurer of Mageia.Org
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+&gt;<i> responded: The requested operation has failed.: Error mounting: mount
+</I>&gt;<i> exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
+</I>&gt;<i> mount: mount point /media/cdrom does not exist
+</I>
+Do you have an entry in /etc/fstab for /media/cdrom?  If so, try removing
+it. <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#Base_system">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Mageia_2_Errata#Base_system</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Damien Lallement at 16/02/12 17:25 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Le 16/02/2012 15:51, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Damien Lallement at 16/02/12 14:28 did gyre and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 15/02/2012 11:46, paulo a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 15/02/2012 09:36, Andres Kaaber a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I dont know if its a dracut problem or new kernel but with latest
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> kernel + dracut I cant boot - kernel panic ... couldn't mount
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> something :) i can check it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/2/15 Olav Vitters&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 03:55:17PM +0000, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Can everyone please test the new dracut please? Especially those of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> you
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> who had issues previously that I was able to fix. I just want to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> make
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> sure I didn't drop any patches that were still needed and make sure
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> new
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> regressions have not snuck in.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Only ever had non-existent swap problem with Dracut. Tried
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dracut-015-1.mga2.. still booted. Didn't try the -2.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -- 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Olav
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Same here.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Same for me: initrd only have '/bin/plymouth' inside...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ouch...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can someone who can still boot (i.e. into older kernel) post a log of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the dracut command and the output from lsinitrd on the resulting image?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I only can send you my weird initrd:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pastebin.com/LsAaTEiP">http://pastebin.com/LsAaTEiP</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Running dracut again worked as expected...
+</I>&gt;<i> FYI, kernel and dracut were updated at the same time when I encountered
+</I>&gt;<i> the bug. Perhaps a bad running when kernel + dracut at the same time?
+</I>
+Did you happen to update to dracut-016 before regenerating a working
+initrd? I'm wondering if some patch magically fixed the issue (or even
+the patch I put in late on the 015 series to fix a seemingly unrelated bug).
+
+FWIW, others are seeing this still:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4541">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4541</A>
+(again, I'm quietly hoping the updated version will fix it, but time
+will tell).
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 15:48 &lt; ennael&gt; quick question about
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4011">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4011</A> c1215:48 &lt; ennael&gt; at the
+</I>&gt;<i> moment installing xguest pulls kdm
+</I>&gt;<i> 15:49 &lt; ennael&gt; installing lxde from dvd is just pulling half of kde
+</I>&gt;<i> 15:49 &lt; ennael&gt; wdyt about blino proposal ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Any feedback on this ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>
+I am also confronted with the problem of the installation of kdm,
+ by default (bug 3060).
+
+Here is my problem:
+I am a user of Xfce and for the moment, drakinstall does not allow
+ a direct installation of Xfce.
+I thus pass by the following stages:
+- Choice of a personalized desktop
+- Then, in the following window, the deletion of all the groups of packages.
+- Finally, in the last window, the selection of: with X server and with urpmi.
+Here is for the procedure.
+
+I noticed that, by default, the display manager is kdm, with all the 
+dependences which result from it.
+It leads to approximately 850 packages.
+
+On the other hand, by imposing lxdm as display manager,
+ the number of packages falls unless 590.
+( My choice went on lxdm because this one is more complete than xdm 
+or slim, without requiring of additional dependences)
+
+To impose lxdm, I just added a line &quot; lxdm &quot; in the file prefer.vendor.list
+included in mdkinst.sqfs. This allows to prefer lxdm as display manager.
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+<PRE>On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 08:29:43 +0000
+Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Currently I am booting with systemd-sysvinit and using mkinitrd.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is it going to now magically/tragically stop working?  
+</I>
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> In certain circumstances, yes.  
+</I>&gt;<i> Using dracut means udev is in the initrd and metadata is available.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This is why a systemd boot requires a dracut initrd. I'm not prepared
+</I>&gt;<i> to support any other combination as it just does not make sense.
+</I>
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Can I ask why you are using mkinitrd anyway? What problem are you
+</I>&gt;<i> having with dracut? I need to make sure I find a way to fix any
+</I>&gt;<i> problems you have (obviously some problems with latest dracut are
+</I>&gt;<i> known and I'm working on fixes, just want to make sure I don't miss
+</I>&gt;<i> your issues)
+</I>
+On the several occasions when I had tried to boot using systemd/dracut
+it either failed miserably or I had to jump through hoops to get it to
+work.
+
+With the recent work you have done with dracut I have now tried using
+it again.
+
+rpm -e mkinitrd; install dracut-016-1, update systemd to the latest
+40-3;
+use auto-update to bring in all other updates including
+kernel-server-3.2.6-2
+
+Reboot to kernel-server-3.2.6-2 successful.
+So... unless the roof falls in I have now switched to systemd/dracut
+
+
+On another note is anyone looking at services which are not now be
+auto-started with systemd.
+In my case I have to manually start gpm and cups at each boot.
+
+
+    Charles
+
+ 
+-- 
+&quot;If people are good only because they fear punishment, and hope for
+reward, then we are a sorry lot indeed.&quot;
+-- Albert Einstein
+----------------------
+Mageia release 2 (Cauldron) for x86_64$
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+    <B>Luc Menut</B> 
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+    <I>Thu Feb 16 23:06:02 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Le 16/02/2012 17:41, Anne nicolas a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> 15:48&lt;  ennael&gt;  quick question about
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4011">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4011</A> c1215:48&lt;  ennael&gt;  at the
+</I>&gt;<i> moment installing xguest pulls kdm
+</I>&gt;<i> 15:49&lt;  ennael&gt;  installing lxde from dvd is just pulling half of kde
+</I>&gt;<i> 15:49&lt;  ennael&gt;  wdyt about blino proposal ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Any feedback on this ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>
+IIUC the problem comes from xguest, which requires dm.
+But why xguest should require dm?
+The xguest account can be used in virtual console, in text mode, even 
+without X11, so I think this require is not needed.
+If I'm not wrong, xguest is the only package which requires or suggests 
+dm, so that removing this unnecessary requires should fix this problem.
+
+btw, each DE should requires its preferred DM.
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+regards,
+Luc
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+    <B>David W. Hodgins</B> 
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+&gt;<i> btw, each DE should requires its preferred DM.
+</I>
+I disagree with that.  A suggests it's own dm with a require for
+some dm is all that's needed.  If I install multiple desktops,
+I don't need or want multiple desktop managers.
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+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Charles A Edwards at 16/02/12 19:42 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Reboot to kernel-server-3.2.6-2 successful.
+</I>&gt;<i> So... unless the roof falls in I have now switched to systemd/dracut
+</I>
+Cool :) A refreshing change as it still seems to be breaking for some
+folk after recent updates - still has some LVM issues too... but we'll
+get there. :)
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+&gt;<i> On another note is anyone looking at services which are not now be
+</I>&gt;<i> auto-started with systemd.
+</I>&gt;<i> In my case I have to manually start gpm and cups at each boot.
+</I>
+Cups works fine here. It's socket activated tho', so it's not actually
+running at boot, but it does get run as soon as I try to access it. Does
+this not work for you?
+
+If so try: systemctl disable cups.service; systemctl enable
+cups.service. This should also enable cups.path and cups.socket...
+
+Col
+
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+I'm planning to exclude built-in theme(s) from the windowmaker package. 
+Are there any objections?
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+My goal it to make this package as closest as possible to ./configure &amp;&amp; 
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+    <B>John Balcaen</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm planning to exclude built-in theme(s) from the windowmaker package. Are
+</I>&gt;<i> there any objections?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My goal it to make this package as closest as possible to ./configure &amp;&amp;
+</I>&gt;<i> make &amp;&amp; makeinstall.
+</I>So you're going to provide a standalone package for thoses themes ?
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+-- 
+Balcaen John
+Jabber-id: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mikala at jabber.littleboboy.net</A>
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+    <I>Fri Feb 17 04:10:51 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On 17.02.2012 03:37, John Balcaen wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2012/2/16 Kamil Rytarowski&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm planning to exclude built-in theme(s) from the windowmaker package. Are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there any objections?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My goal it to make this package as closest as possible to ./configure&amp;&amp;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> make&amp;&amp;  makeinstall.
+</I>&gt;<i> So you're going to provide a standalone package for thoses themes ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Right.
+The .spec is too complicated, I'm going to push all changes upstream.
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+We have already excluded wmcalclock applet and made it a stand-allone 
+package.
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+    <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> 
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+<PRE><A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/</A>
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+    <B>zezinho</B> 
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+    <B>zezinho</B> 
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 17 f&#233;vrier 2012 00:50:04, David W. Hodgins a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 16 Feb 2012 17:06:02 -0500, Luc Menut &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lmenut at free.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; btw, each DE should requires its preferred DM.
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+</I>&gt;<i> I disagree with that.  A suggests it's own dm with a require for
+</I>&gt;<i> some dm is all that's needed.  If I install multiple desktops,
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't need or want multiple desktop managers.
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+    <B>EatDirt</B> 
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+<PRE>On 17/02/12 03:17, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm planning to exclude built-in theme(s) from the windowmaker package.
+</I>&gt;<i> Are there any objections?
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+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> isn't accessible anymore. I believe since today.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/1">http://check.mageia.org/1</A> is OK
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+Sorry, my fault, it should get fixed after the next run.
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+    <B>Pa&#239;ou</B> 
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+    <I>Fri Feb 17 11:04:08 CET 2012</I>
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+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> +1 , there no point in having 2 required DMs , while you can only use one at 
+</I>&gt;<i> the same time.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>I think that the fact of having some DM installed is not still annoying. 
+You can choose the one that you go to use.
+In any case, you have one who is automatically installed: xdm.
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+However the main point of friction, in my opinion, it is when the not wished DM
+ pulls the installation of good hundred of useless dependences.
+ 
+Example:
+I want to install a light desk (xfce in this case) on an a little bit ancient PC
+I meet with xdm (OK), but also with kdm and all its dependences.
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+My idea is that, by default, it is a light DM, such as lxdm, slim or simply xdm
+who is installed.
+If you want the KDE office, kdm will be installed in more. The dependences of 
+kdm are the ones of KDE, thus no useless dependence will be installed.
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+If you want Gnome, it will be gdm whose dependences are the ones of Gnome.
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+If, by hazard, you want KDE and Gnome, well yes, you will have kdm and gdm and
+you will choose the one that you want to use. But, there not useless dependence.
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+Of what do you think of it?
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+    <B>Jose Jorge</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 17/02/2012 11:04, Pa&#239;ou a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> If you want Gnome, it will be gdm whose dependences are the ones of Gnome.
+</I>&gt;<i> If, by hazard, you want KDE and Gnome, well yes, you will have kdm and gdm and
+</I>&gt;<i> you will choose the one that you want to use. But, there not useless dependence.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Of what do you think of it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>That's the whole point of Suggests : you get it, but can still refuse it 
+with --no-suggests. If you require gdm with gnome, you HAVE TO keep it 
+installed. If the requires is only for a dm, you can remove it.
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+The main point is never require something if it is works without. Even 
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+&gt;<i> The main point is never require something if it is works without. Even
+</I>&gt;<i> with less features.
+</I>Then you don't need any hard dependency from any desktop environement 
+against any display manager.
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+&gt;<i> Then you don't need any hard dependency from any desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> environement against any display manager.
+</I>
+That is the current situation though.
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+Mageia only installs task-gnome-minimal. Not task-gnome. I only focus on
+ensuring task-gnome works because I consider task-gnome-minimal to be
+really arbitrary (I'd include most of task-gnome in -minimal).
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+To see the effect of task-gnome-minimal, do a new installation and only
+have task-gnome-minimal. Then setup some chat functionality, search in
+overview mode, then click on a person. It'll result in the error message
+that it cannot find gnome-contacts.
+There are similar problems. Either lost functionality, or just error
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:36:46PM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Then you don't need any hard dependency from any desktop
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> environement against any display manager.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That is the current situation though.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia only installs task-gnome-minimal. Not task-gnome. I only focus on
+</I>&gt;<i> ensuring task-gnome works because I consider task-gnome-minimal to be
+</I>&gt;<i> really arbitrary (I'd include most of task-gnome in -minimal).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To see the effect of task-gnome-minimal, do a new installation and only
+</I>&gt;<i> have task-gnome-minimal. Then setup some chat functionality, search in
+</I>&gt;<i> overview mode, then click on a person. It'll result in the error message
+</I>&gt;<i> that it cannot find gnome-contacts.
+</I>&gt;<i> There are similar problems. Either lost functionality, or just error
+</I>&gt;<i> messages.
+</I>
+As I understand the &quot;minimal&quot; task it should only provide the packages
+to run a respective environment. Chat or other such functionalities do
+not belong in a minimal installation.
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+As for your example: when you set up gnome-minimal and after that
+install a chat application it should be this application package's
+task to draw all necessary dependencies (like gnome-contacts).
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+<PRE>Am 17.02.2012 13:13, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+&gt;<i> As I understand the &quot;minimal&quot; task it should only provide the packages
+</I>&gt;<i> to run a respective environment. Chat or other such functionalities do
+</I>&gt;<i> not belong in a minimal installation.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As for your example: when you set up gnome-minimal and after that
+</I>&gt;<i> install a chat application it should be this application package's
+</I>&gt;<i> task to draw all necessary dependencies (like gnome-contacts).
+</I>
+I agree with wobo here. The &quot;-minimal&quot; tasks should only install a basic 
+desktop meaning in case of KDE (which I know better then GNOME) no 
+kdepim, no kdegamees, no kdeedu and so on.
+It should be similar with GNOME, XFCE, LXDE and so on.
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+But back to dm:
+Having a desktop suggest its own dm and having every other package (like 
+xguest) that does need a dm just require dm would be the best way imho.
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+<PRE>Jose Jorge &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lists.jjorge at ...</A>&gt; writes:
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+&gt;<i> That's the whole point of Suggests : you get it, but can still refuse it 
+</I>&gt;<i> with --no-suggests. If you require gdm with gnome, you HAVE TO keep it 
+</I>&gt;<i> installed. If the requires is only for a dm, you can remove it.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The main point is never require something if it is works without. Even 
+</I>&gt;<i> with less features.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>Yes, I think that it is a good solution: impose dm and
+ suggest a specific DM to a given environment.
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+For the moment, stays the problem of the systematic installation of kdm,
+ even at the level of a minimal installation (but with X server).
+It could be due to the fact that xdm, who is also automatically installed, does
+not possess the property &quot;dm&quot;
+See bug 4532.
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+Would you like to correct this?
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+<PRE>Am 17.02.2012 14:26, schrieb Pa&#239;ou:
+&gt;<i> It could be due to the fact that xdm, who is also automatically installed, does
+</I>&gt;<i> not possess the property &quot;dm&quot;
+</I>Well I don't think because kdm gets installed also, when gdm is 
+installed, which does provide dm.
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+ &gt; See bug 4532.
+The question, why xdm does not provide dm I can't answer. Was there a 
+technical reason or was it only forgotten?
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 17 februari 2012 14:32:53 schreef Oliver Burger:
+&gt;<i> Am 17.02.2012 14:26, schrieb Pa&#239;ou:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It could be due to the fact that xdm, who is also automatically
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; installed, does not possess the property &quot;dm&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Well I don't think because kdm gets installed also, when gdm is
+</I>&gt;<i> installed, which does provide dm.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; See bug 4532.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The question, why xdm does not provide dm I can't answer. Was there a
+</I>&gt;<i> technical reason or was it only forgotten?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>
+this is more about dependency and suggestion fulfilling in urpmi.
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+this is exactly what could be handled better imho.
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+<PRE>Am 17.02.2012 14:48, schrieb Maarten Vanraes:
+&gt;&gt;<i> The question, why xdm does not provide dm I can't answer. Was there a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> technical reason or was it only forgotten?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> this is more about dependency and suggestion fulfilling in urpmi.
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+</I>&gt;<i> this is exactly what could be handled better imho.
+</I>Probably, but we do need a solution asap. So there's no time to discuss 
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 01:13:03PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+&gt;<i> As I understand the &quot;minimal&quot; task it should only provide the packages
+</I>&gt;<i> to run a respective environment. Chat or other such functionalities do
+</I>&gt;<i> not belong in a minimal installation.
+</I>
+This is totally vague. GNOME has defined what modules are part of GNOME.
+task-gnome-minimal doesn't reflect that environment. Yet
+task-gnome-minimal still exists anyway. It doesn't give you GNOME, it
+gives you a few GNOME packages. To me the selection is &quot;whatever runs
+without giving obvious errors messages&quot;.
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+&gt;<i> As for your example: when you set up gnome-minimal and after that
+</I>&gt;<i> install a chat application it should be this application package's
+</I>&gt;<i> task to draw all necessary dependencies (like gnome-contacts).
+</I>
+In my example, I didn't say that another chat application needed to be
+installed. I said that it is broken *by default*. Chat is integrated
+within GNOME. But broken in task-gnome-minimal. I don't get the reason
+behind task-gnome-minimal, so I am not touching this, nor adding a
+dependency from gnome-shell on gnome-contacts.
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+It is just a random example, I noticed others. I test that task-gnome
+works, not task-gnome-minimal.
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+Regards,
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+&gt;<i> Am 17.02.2012 13:13, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As I understand the &quot;minimal&quot; task it should only provide the packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to run a respective environment. Chat or other such functionalities do
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; not belong in a minimal installation.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As for your example: when you set up gnome-minimal and after that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; install a chat application it should be this application package's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; task to draw all necessary dependencies (like gnome-contacts).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree with wobo here. The &quot;-minimal&quot; tasks should only install a basic 
+</I>&gt;<i> desktop meaning in case of KDE (which I know better then GNOME) no 
+</I>&gt;<i> kdepim, no kdegamees, no kdeedu and so on.
+</I>&gt;<i> It should be similar with GNOME, XFCE, LXDE and so on.
+</I>
+Then you just install kwin, or gnome-shell.
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+Each time, there is 1 single rpm for that already existing.
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 17 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 14:32 +0100, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Am 17.02.2012 14:26, schrieb Pa&#239;ou:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It could be due to the fact that xdm, who is also automatically installed, does
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; not possess the property &quot;dm&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> Well I don't think because kdm gets installed also, when gdm is 
+</I>&gt;<i> installed, which does provide dm.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>  &gt; See bug 4532.
+</I>&gt;<i> The question, why xdm does not provide dm I can't answer. Was there a 
+</I>&gt;<i> technical reason or was it only forgotten?
+</I>
+Because no one never documented exactly what is needed to be providing
+dm, or what it exactly mean.
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+Does it mean to be one of the choice of the prefdm service ?
+Does it mean to be able to understand /etc/X11/wmsession.d/ ?
+Ant others need to be seen as dm ? Where would it have impact, in
+drakdm, somewhere ?
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+Without enough formalism in the interaction of rpms, this is just gonna
+be a hack. People will add provides, will change stuff, without any
+consistency, and curiously, that later cause issues.
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+<PRE>Am 17.02.2012 15:11, schrieb Michael Scherer:
+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 17 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 14:24 +0100, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 17.02.2012 13:13, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I agree with wobo here. The &quot;-minimal&quot; tasks should only install a basic
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> desktop meaning in case of KDE (which I know better then GNOME) no
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kdepim, no kdegamees, no kdeedu and so on.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It should be similar with GNOME, XFCE, LXDE and so on.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then you just install kwin, or gnome-shell.
+</I>
+I don't know anything about GNOME, but DKE is more then kwin, KDE 
+consists of at least kwin, plasma, some plasmoids like the panel, the 
+menu and so on. I would add dolphin and konsole as well.
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+I would vote for a discussing a clean policy about such things, maybe in 
+the debriefing after Mga2?
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+asked in previous mails on this ML
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+2012/2/17 fwang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Name &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: xulrunner &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version &#160; &#160; : 10.0.2 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release &#160; &#160; : 1.mga2 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Build Date: Fri Feb 17 15:09:15 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Build Host: localhost
+</I>&gt;<i> Group &#160; &#160; &#160; : Development/Other &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: 75922853 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; License: MPLv1.1 or GPLv2+ or LGPLv2+
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature &#160; : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager &#160; &#160;: fwang &lt;fwang&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; : <A HREF="http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/XULRunner">http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/XULRunner</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary &#160; &#160; : XUL Runtime for Gecko Applications
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> XULRunner is a Mozilla runtime package that can be used to
+</I>&gt;<i> bootstrap XUL+XPCOM applications that are as rich as Firefox
+</I>&gt;<i> and Thunderbird. It will provide mechanisms for installing,
+</I>&gt;<i> upgrading, and uninstalling these applications. XULRunner will
+</I>&gt;<i> also provide libxul, a solution which allows the embedding of
+</I>&gt;<i> Mozilla technologies in other projects and products.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> fwang &lt;fwang&gt; 10.0.2-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 210048
+</I>&gt;<i> - new version 10.0.2esr
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> Without enough formalism in the interaction of rpms, this is just gonna
+</I>&gt;<i> be a hack. People will add provides, will change stuff, without any
+</I>&gt;<i> consistency, and curiously, that later cause issues.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>All right, but in the meantime, there is indeed an incoherence: 
+kdm is installed (and all dependences) 
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/2/17 Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 17 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 14:24 +0100, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 17.02.2012 13:13, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; As I understand the &quot;minimal&quot; task it should only provide the packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; to run a respective environment. Chat or other such functionalities do
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; not belong in a minimal installation.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; As for your example: when you set up gnome-minimal and after that
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; install a chat application it should be this application package's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; task to draw all necessary dependencies (like gnome-contacts).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I agree with wobo here. The &quot;-minimal&quot; tasks should only install a basic
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> desktop meaning in case of KDE (which I know better then GNOME) no
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kdepim, no kdegamees, no kdeedu and so on.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It should be similar with GNOME, XFCE, LXDE and so on.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Then you just install kwin, or gnome-shell.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Each time, there is 1 single rpm for that already existing.
+</I>
+The Gnome base is more than gnome-shell but less than Gnome in total.
+Example: Gnome config editor belongs to the basic Gnome, eog is a
+Gnome application. Same with KDE: kdm and the setup configuration are
+related to the environment, kmail is a KDE application.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> It could be due to the fact that xdm, who is also automatically installed,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> does not possess the property &quot;dm&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well I don't think because kdm gets installed also, when gdm is installed,
+</I>&gt;<i> which does provide dm.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See bug 4532.
+</I>&gt;<i> The question, why xdm does not provide dm I can't answer. Was there a
+</I>&gt;<i> technical reason or was it only forgotten?
+</I>
+Because it was not as featured as gdm &amp; kdm.
+Also I think there were issues with xguest.
+Was decided by fcrozat which is long gone...
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 17 februari 2012 15:15:37 schreef Michael Scherer:
+[...]
+&gt;<i> Because no one never documented exactly what is needed to be providing
+</I>&gt;<i> dm, or what it exactly mean.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Does it mean to be one of the choice of the prefdm service ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Does it mean to be able to understand /etc/X11/wmsession.d/ ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Ant others need to be seen as dm ? Where would it have impact, in
+</I>&gt;<i> drakdm, somewhere ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Without enough formalism in the interaction of rpms, this is just gonna
+</I>&gt;<i> be a hack. People will add provides, will change stuff, without any
+</I>&gt;<i> consistency, and curiously, that later cause issues.
+</I>
+ok, so you mean we need a documented wiki policy page regarding dm 
+elegibility?
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+<PRE>Le vendredi 17 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 16:20 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 17 februari 2012 15:15:37 schreef Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Because no one never documented exactly what is needed to be providing
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; dm, or what it exactly mean.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Does it mean to be one of the choice of the prefdm service ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Does it mean to be able to understand /etc/X11/wmsession.d/ ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ant others need to be seen as dm ? Where would it have impact, in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; drakdm, somewhere ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Without enough formalism in the interaction of rpms, this is just gonna
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; be a hack. People will add provides, will change stuff, without any
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; consistency, and curiously, that later cause issues.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> ok, so you mean we need a documented wiki policy page regarding dm 
+</I>&gt;<i> elegibility?
+</I>
+Not elegibility, knowing what should be done on a package level to be
+able to be a alternative to the others packages providing 'dm'.
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+Likewise, the same should be done for httpd, sendmail-command etc. 
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+&gt;<i> On 17/02/12 03:17, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm planning to exclude built-in theme(s) from the windowmaker package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Are there any objections?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> no, very good!
+</I>There is a package wmaker-themes.
+I would like to:
+1) rename it to windowmaker-themes.
+2) exclude each theme from it and name it windowmaker-theme-NAME
+3) finally make windowmaker-themes a dummy package, that requires all 
+available themes.
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+This should be perfectly compatible for updates from Mga1.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers,
+</I>&gt;<i> Chris.
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+    <B>Claire Revillet</B> 
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+<PRE>Hi,
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+Since 2 days (or more maybe), under XFCE, all qt-based soft are breaking 
+our cauldrons :
+X11 take ~75% of the memory and the computer is swapping a lot as soon 
+as you start a qt-base soft (konsole, vlc, qtoctave (not yet pushed on 
+the BS) ...)
+-&gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4549">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4549</A>
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+Any one having made a change in XFCE-* and/or *-Qt-* please take a look 
+of what could cause that please.
+
+As a second point : there is still no xfce-* maintainer and as many 
+people are using it on cauldron and as we have bug on &quot;Could we have 
+xfce directly from dvd/dual/live installation please&quot; : it will be great 
+that someone grab those packages. The candidat will have all our 
+gratitude :) (and bug report :p )
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+Thank you for reading.
+Claire
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since 2 days (or more maybe), under XFCE, all qt-based soft are breaking our
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldrons :
+</I>&gt;<i> X11 take ~75% of the memory and the computer is swapping a lot as soon as
+</I>&gt;<i> you start a qt-base soft (konsole, vlc, qtoctave (not yet pushed on the BS)
+</I>&gt;<i> ...)
+</I>&gt;<i> -&gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4549">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4549</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any one having made a change in XFCE-* and/or *-Qt-* please take a look of
+</I>&gt;<i> what could cause that please.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I'd rather think of an isolated xfce issue. There is no problem on
+lxde, at least not on my installations.
+I'm using lxde as desktop with rather many qt applications (okular,
+kile,...) and have not seen any issue with memory usage till now.
+
+Oliver
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+    <B>Dick Gevers</B> 
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+<PRE>On Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:18:56 +0100, Claire Revillet wrote about
+[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2 days:
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+&gt;<i>Since 2 days (or more maybe), under XFCE, all qt-based soft are breaking 
+</I>&gt;<i>our cauldrons :
+</I>
+I suspect it is more like 2 weeks.
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+Ciao,
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+    <B>Dick Gevers</B> 
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+    <B>Funda Wang</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%09xulrunner-10.0.2-1.mga2&In-Reply-To=%3CCAOfq2QRAbAYfXtqdq87Ru71exT9m6qRHhOrb2bQLt6meehXaSw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+    <I>Fri Feb 17 23:52:04 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Well, the reqs on libxulrunner have already been broken before beta1
+freezing.
+&#22312; 2012-2-17 &#19979;&#21320;10:29&#65292;&quot;Anne nicolas&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt;&#20889;&#36947;&#65306;
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+&gt;<i> Funda, Could you please wait some days before updating everything as
+</I>&gt;<i> asked in previous mails on this ML
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/2/17 fwang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Name        : xulrunner                    Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Version     : 10.0.2                            Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Release     : 1.mga2                        Build Date: Fri Feb 17
+</I>&gt;<i> 15:09:15 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Install Date: (not installed)               Build Host: localhost
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Group       : Development/Other             Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Size        : 75922853                         License: MPLv1.1 or
+</I>&gt;<i> GPLv2+ or LGPLv2+
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Signature   : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Packager    : fwang &lt;fwang&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; URL         : <A HREF="http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/XULRunner">http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/XULRunner</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Summary     : XUL Runtime for Gecko Applications
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; XULRunner is a Mozilla runtime package that can be used to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bootstrap XUL+XPCOM applications that are as rich as Firefox
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and Thunderbird. It will provide mechanisms for installing,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; upgrading, and uninstalling these applications. XULRunner will
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; also provide libxul, a solution which allows the embedding of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mozilla technologies in other projects and products.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; fwang &lt;fwang&gt; 10.0.2-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; + Revision: 210048
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - new version 10.0.2esr
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
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+&gt;<i> Le 14/02/2012 21:44, Jani V&#228;limaa a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Commit msgs &quot;%mkrel&amp; spelling error&quot; and &quot;del *.a&quot; looks now in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> changelog like &quot;-&amp;.mga2- del *.a&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW, using cryptic change messages is quite useless for end user, the
+</I>&gt;<i> main target of package changelog. '%mkrel' doesn't mean anything, and
+</I>&gt;<i> 'del *.a' looks like a shell command, not a human phrase. Remember than
+</I>&gt;<i> people interested in detailed spec file history can easily retrieve it
+</I>&gt;<i> from subversion directly, you don't need to paraphrase it.
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+<PRE>Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 17 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 16:20 +0100, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Op vrijdag 17 februari 2012 15:15:37 schreef Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Because no one never documented exactly what is needed to be providing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dm, or what it exactly mean.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Does it mean to be one of the choice of the prefdm service ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Does it mean to be able to understand /etc/X11/wmsession.d/ ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ant others need to be seen as dm ? Where would it have impact, in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> drakdm, somewhere ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Without enough formalism in the interaction of rpms, this is just gonna
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> be a hack. People will add provides, will change stuff, without any
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> consistency, and curiously, that later cause issues.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>        
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ok, so you mean we need a documented wiki policy page regarding dm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> elegibility?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;<i> Not elegibility, knowing what should be done on a package level to be
+</I>&gt;<i> able to be a alternative to the others packages providing 'dm'.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Likewise, the same should be done for httpd, sendmail-command etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>Exactly.  Let's document all virtual provides.
+
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+</I>&gt;<i> people are using it on cauldron and as we have bug on &quot;Could we have 
+</I>&gt;<i> xfce directly from dvd/dual/live installation please&quot; : it will be great 
+</I>&gt;<i> that someone grab those packages. The candidat will have all our 
+</I>&gt;<i> gratitude :) (and bug report :p )
+</I>
+If there is so much users, why is there no volunteer for taking just one
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+<PRE>* Michael Scherer (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 17 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 19:18 +0100, Claire Revillet a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; As a second point : there is still no xfce-* maintainer and as many 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; people are using it on cauldron and as we have bug on &quot;Could we have 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; xfce directly from dvd/dual/live installation please&quot; : it will be great 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that someone grab those packages. The candidat will have all our 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; gratitude :) (and bug report :p )
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If there is so much users, why is there no volunteer for taking just one
+</I>&gt;<i> package ? 
+</I>
+Being user does not mean having knowledge to maintain it.
+
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> -- 
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael Scherer
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+-- 
+
+Olivier Thauvin
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+&gt;<i> * Michael Scherer (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le vendredi 17 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 19:18 +0100, Claire Revillet a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; As a second point : there is still no xfce-* maintainer and as many 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; people are using it on cauldron and as we have bug on &quot;Could we have 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; xfce directly from dvd/dual/live installation please&quot; : it will be great 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; that someone grab those packages. The candidat will have all our 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; gratitude :) (and bug report :p )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; If there is so much users, why is there no volunteer for taking just one
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; package ? 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Being user does not mean having knowledge to maintain it.
+</I>
+I know at least 2 people in the packagers group who use xfce. So if they
+have no knowledge for maintaining rpms ( and a dm doesn't require more
+knowledge than anything else ), that would be shocking. 
+
+Anyway, if a major DE is unmaintained, maybe we should start to think
+removing it until there is enough volunteer, since we do not want to
+have a popular application to be crappy due to lack of maintainer. This
+would be lying to user, and giving them false expectations.
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+&gt;<i> Use Isocheck; tests moved
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified Paths
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> isocheck/trunk/test_iso.pl
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modified: isocheck/trunk/test_iso.pl
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- isocheck/trunk/test_iso.pl	2012-02-17 17:55:28 UTC (rev 2981)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ isocheck/trunk/test_iso.pl	2012-02-17 17:56:08 UTC (rev 2982)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i>  use MDK::Common;
+</I>&gt;<i>  use TAP::Harness;
+</I>&gt;<i>  use TAP::Parser::Aggregator;
+</I>&gt;<i> -use Tools;
+</I>&gt;<i> +use Isocheck;
+</I>
+It would be better to not pollute global namespace and use MDV::ISOcheck instead
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+<PRE>Le mercredi 15 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 16:38 +0100, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> I got the following submission error:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Submission errors, aborting:
+</I>&gt;<i> - yelp-3.3.3-2.mga2.x86_64:
+</I>&gt;<i>  - invalid-desktopfile /usr/share/applications/yelp.desktop value &quot;GNOME;Unity;&quot; for key &quot;OnlyShowIn&quot; in group &quot;Desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> - yelp-3.3.3-2.mga2.i586:
+</I>&gt;<i>  - invalid-desktopfile /usr/share/applications/yelp.desktop value &quot;GNOME;Unity;&quot; for key &quot;OnlyShowIn&quot; in group &quot;Desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Unity is a valid and registered desktop. Desktop-file-utils validates it
+</I>&gt;<i> as of version 0.19. Above submission check is outdated and wrong. Please
+</I>&gt;<i> fix the check so I can submit it again.
+</I>
+We have updated desktop-file-utils on valstar.
+
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+-- 
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 03:50:45PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+&gt;<i> The Gnome base is more than gnome-shell but less than Gnome in total.
+</I>&gt;<i> Example: Gnome config editor belongs to the basic Gnome, eog is a
+</I>&gt;<i> Gnome application. Same with KDE: kdm and the setup configuration are
+</I>&gt;<i> related to the environment, kmail is a KDE application.
+</I>
+GNOME is not the same as KDE.
+
+Eye of GNOME is part of GNOME Core (things which should be installed
+together):
+  <A HREF="http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/core/3.3/3.3.5/sources/">http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/core/3.3/3.3.5/sources/</A>
+As it is part of Core, anything in GNOME is ok to assume that it is
+installed.
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+There is a separate &quot;apps&quot; section listed at:
+  <A HREF="http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/apps/3.3/3.3.5/sources/">http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/apps/3.3/3.3.5/sources/</A>
+These consist of applications which closely follow GNOME. Meaning:
+they're QA tested, etc.
+
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+Aside from the &quot;apps&quot; section, there are loads of other modules.
+Everything in total is at:
+  <A HREF="http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/">http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/</A>
+You see e.g. xchat-gnome. Something in /sources/, but not in &quot;Core&quot;, nor
+in &quot;Apps&quot;. It doesn't follow the GNOME release schedule, translation
+freezes, etc.
+
+
+Regarding eog:
+Anything wanting to call eog within GNOME should of course use
+freedesktop.org specifications. So if you've installed something other
+than eog, it should still work. Still, from upstream POV it is a
+distribution bug if there wasn't any image viewer installed.
+
+In practice, not installing everything by default should be more or less
+ok. But that's not how things are released or assumed to be. It it just
+by using freedesktop.org specifications that things still work.
+
+But things still working doesn't mean that eog is not assumed to be
+installed.
+
+Anyway, I'm ok with discussing after Mageia 2 as suggested in another
+email. I have no idea if &quot;Core&quot; + dependencies would fit on a cd anyway
+(don't believe it would) + I can mention on
+<A HREF="http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/">http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/</A> that Mageia 2 users should install
+&quot;task-gnome&quot; to get the full experience.
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+Regards,
+Olav
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+&gt;<i> We have updated desktop-file-utils on valstar.
+</I>
+Awesome!!
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/2/18 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 03:50:45PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The Gnome base is more than gnome-shell but less than Gnome in total.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Example: Gnome config editor belongs to the basic Gnome, eog is a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Gnome application. Same with KDE: kdm and the setup configuration are
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> related to the environment, kmail is a KDE application.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> GNOME is not the same as KDE.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Eye of GNOME is part of GNOME Core (things which should be installed
+</I>&gt;<i> together):
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;<A HREF="http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/core/3.3/3.3.5/sources/">http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/core/3.3/3.3.5/sources/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> As it is part of Core, anything in GNOME is ok to assume that it is
+</I>&gt;<i> installed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is a separate &quot;apps&quot; section listed at:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;<A HREF="http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/apps/3.3/3.3.5/sources/">http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/apps/3.3/3.3.5/sources/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> These consist of applications which closely follow GNOME. Meaning:
+</I>&gt;<i> they're QA tested, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Aside from the &quot;apps&quot; section, there are loads of other modules.
+</I>&gt;<i> Everything in total is at:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;<A HREF="http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/">http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> You see e.g. xchat-gnome. Something in /sources/, but not in &quot;Core&quot;, nor
+</I>&gt;<i> in &quot;Apps&quot;. It doesn't follow the GNOME release schedule, translation
+</I>&gt;<i> freezes, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regarding eog:
+</I>&gt;<i> Anything wanting to call eog within GNOME should of course use
+</I>&gt;<i> freedesktop.org specifications. So if you've installed something other
+</I>&gt;<i> than eog, it should still work. Still, from upstream POV it is a
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution bug if there wasn't any image viewer installed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In practice, not installing everything by default should be more or less
+</I>&gt;<i> ok. But that's not how things are released or assumed to be. It it just
+</I>&gt;<i> by using freedesktop.org specifications that things still work.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But things still working doesn't mean that eog is not assumed to be
+</I>&gt;<i> installed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway, I'm ok with discussing after Mageia 2 as suggested in another
+</I>&gt;<i> email. I have no idea if &quot;Core&quot; + dependencies would fit on a cd anyway
+</I>&gt;<i> (don't believe it would) + I can mention on
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/">http://www.gnome.org/getting-gnome/</A> that Mageia 2 users should install
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;task-gnome&quot; to get the full experience.
+</I>
+I see your point and understand upstream POV of Gnome. The other POV
+is the user's POV who wants a &quot;minimal&quot; installation with Gnome as the
+basis but with a few applications only. IMHO this is what a
+&quot;task-foo-minimal&quot; is made for. So after this task-foo-minimal I have
+to install only :
+ - web browser (for mail, www, downloads),
+ - mc (filemanager),
+ - vim (editor),
+ - vlc (music, video),
+ - mcc (including the draktools). Done.
+
+(just an example of what I would do for my netbook, others may want
+another set of applications).
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+Going by the upstream POV we don't need a task-gnome-minimal at all,
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+-- 
+wobo
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 02:15:40PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+&gt;<i> I see your point and understand upstream POV of Gnome. The other POV
+</I>&gt;<i> is the user's POV who wants a &quot;minimal&quot; installation with Gnome as the
+</I>&gt;<i> basis but with a few applications only. IMHO this is what a
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;task-foo-minimal&quot; is made for. So after this task-foo-minimal I have
+</I>&gt;<i> to install only :
+</I>
+I agree that some want something minimal and that it should be possible.
+
+What I dislike is not that people want something minimal, but that
+the minimal one is installed by default instead of task-gnome. I can
+understand people wanting a more minimal installation and that should be
+possible. But at the moment, the minimal installation is the default and
+by default it is diverted from upstream. Or at least that is what
+happened when I installed Cauldron via internet + done by the Mageia
+installer. I still hope for some hidden magic to have task-gnome on the
+DVD.
+
+&gt;<i>  - web browser (for mail, www, downloads),
+</I>&gt;<i>  - mc (filemanager),
+</I>&gt;<i>  - vim (editor),
+</I>&gt;<i>  - vlc (music, video),
+</I>&gt;<i>  - mcc (including the draktools). Done.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> (just an example of what I would do for my netbook, others may want
+</I>&gt;<i> another set of applications).
+</I>
+I'm not saying it should be impossible, my point is that that by
+default, you should install the whole thing, unless knowingly selecting
+a minimal installation.
+My idea behind Mageia is that by default, it just works. I want to be
+sure then when handing out a Mageia DVD, I know that no hand-holding is
+necessary.
+
+&gt;<i> Going by the upstream POV we don't need a task-gnome-minimal at all,
+</I>&gt;<i> you can safely remove it.
+</I>
+That is my point of view. Only have task-gnome. And within task-gnome
+use &quot;Suggest:&quot; for those things which could be removed if someone really
+wants an minimal installation. At the moment, the &quot;-minimal&quot;
+installation is different from upstream, yet that is installed by
+default.
+IMO, users knowingly choosing a minimal installation should be the ones
+which might get error messages like a missing gnome-contacts, etc. Not
+people who just install Mageia. I
+
+E.g. you'll get errors if gnome-contacts is not there. But if you really
+care about minimal and don't use the functionality, then it should not
+be impossible.
+
+I have the feeling that after Mageia 2, there will be unneeded
+bugreports due to differences with upstream. IMO, such bugs can and
+should be avoided.
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+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+    <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B> 
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+<PRE>2012/2/18 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 02:15:40PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Going by the upstream POV we don't need a task-gnome-minimal at all,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> you can safely remove it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That is my point of view. Only have task-gnome. And within task-gnome
+</I>&gt;<i> use &quot;Suggest:&quot; for those things which could be removed if someone really
+</I>&gt;<i> wants an minimal installation. At the moment, the &quot;-minimal&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> installation is different from upstream, yet that is installed by
+</I>&gt;<i> default.
+</I>
+Ok, so we share a similar opinion :)
+I know I did not follow development as close as I should have done to
+be able to discuss here, but in the light of this discussion the
+question comes to my mind why we have &quot;task-gnome-minimal&quot; at all
+although it is not needed and different from upstream.
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+<PRE>[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">schedbot at valstar</A> ~]$ diff &lt;(find
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+&gt;<i> bluez-firmware-1.2-6.mga1.noarch.rpm
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+</I>&gt;<i> xml-commons-apis-manual-1.4.01-6.mga2.noarch.rpm
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+None of those packages are obsoleted by anything.
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+Can the maintainers confirm what should happen to them?
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+    <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> 
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+&gt;<i> &gt; colorize-0.3.4-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>
+&gt;<i> Can the maintainers confirm what should happen to them?
+</I>
+colorize was imported last december by rindolf on behalf of me, as my mentor. So it is most definitely not orphaned. :-)=
+My hope is that it will be included in future releases, including mga2.
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+As to why it was not included in both repos I don't know.
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+&gt;<i> As to why it was not included in both repos I don't know.
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+rindolf is looking into it now, so hopefully it's fixed today
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+<PRE>On 18.02.2012 16:20, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">schedbot at valstar</A> ~]$ diff&lt;(find
+</I>&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/ -name '*noarch.rpm' | xargs
+</I>&gt;<i> -n1 basename |sort)&lt;(find /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/
+</I>&gt;<i> -name '*noarch.rpm' | xargs -n1 basename | sort) | grep '^[&lt;&gt;]'
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bluez-firmware-1.2-6.mga1.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> colorize-0.3.4-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fusion-icon-0.1-4.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> jgoodies-animation-javadoc-1.3.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kde-l10n-en_GB-4.8.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kde-l10n-he-4.7.97-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kde-l10n-he-handbooks-4.7.97-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kde-l10n-id-4.7.97-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kde-l10n-kn-4.7.97-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> kde-l10n-ug-4.7.97-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> speedtouch-firmware-0.1-9.mga2.nonfree.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> x11-font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.4-2.mga1.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> x11-font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.4-3.mga1.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> xml-commons-apis-manual-1.4.01-6.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> None of those packages are obsoleted by anything.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Did they get removed manually from i586 without a proper obsolete?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can the maintainers confirm what should happen to them?
+</I>&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia-sysadm mailing list
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm</A>
+</I>In x86_64:
+[GZ]    myspell-af_ZA-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+505K
+[GZ]    myspell-ar_AR-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+139K
+[GZ]    myspell-az_AZ-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     67K
+[GZ]    myspell-bg_BG-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+374K
+[GZ]    myspell-ca_ES-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+374K
+[GZ]    myspell-cop_EG-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+41K
+[GZ]    myspell-cs_CZ-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+965K
+[GZ]    myspell-csb_CSB-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18 
+     53K
+[GZ]    myspell-cy_GB-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+564K
+[GZ]    myspell-da_DK-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+453K
+[GZ]    myspell-de_AT-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     22K
+[GZ]    myspell-de_CH-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+1.1M
+[GZ]    myspell-de_DE-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+2.9M
+[GZ]    myspell-el_GR-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+1.2M
+[GZ]    myspell-en_AU-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+186K
+[GZ]    myspell-en_CA-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+331K
+[GZ]    myspell-en_GB-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+247K
+[GZ]    myspell-en_NZ-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+201K
+[GZ]    myspell-en_US-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+3.0M
+[GZ]    myspell-en_ZA-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+244K
+[GZ]    myspell-eo_EO-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     94K
+[GZ]    myspell-es_ES-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+757K
+[GZ]    myspell-es_MX-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+248K
+[GZ]    myspell-et_EE-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+649K
+[GZ]    myspell-eu_ES-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+438K
+[GZ]    myspell-fa_FA-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+636K
+[GZ]    myspell-fa_IR-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+636K
+[GZ]    myspell-fi_FI-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     15K
+[GZ]    myspell-fj_FJ-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     84K
+[GZ]    myspell-fo_FO-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+297K
+[GZ]    myspell-fr_BE-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     16K
+[GZ]    myspell-fr_FR-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+1.2M
+[GZ]    myspell-fur_IT-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+124K
+[GZ]    myspell-fy_NL-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     96K
+[GZ]    myspell-ga_IE-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+271K
+[GZ]    myspell-gd_GB-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     57K
+[GZ]    myspell-gl_ES-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+188K
+[GZ]    myspell-gsc_FR-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+4.1M
+[GZ]    myspell-he_IL-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+449K
+[GZ]    myspell-hi_IN-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     69K
+[GZ]    myspell-hr_HR-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+621K
+[GZ]    myspell-hu_HU-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+521K
+[GZ]    myspell-hy_AM-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm    11-Feb-2011 22:18     
+361K
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+Also
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4526">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4526</A>
+A subpackage switched from arch specified to noarch, result: everything 
+hangs on mirrors.
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+<PRE>On 18.02.2012 16:56, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4526">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4526</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> A subpackage switched from arch specified to noarch, result: 
+</I>&gt;<i> everything hangs on mirrors.
+</I>There was also prably a bug submitted somewhere, that after a rename of 
+a package: there are hanging on mirrors -debug packages...
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+<PRE>2012/2/18 Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> On 18.02.2012 16:20, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">schedbot at valstar</A> ~]$ diff&lt;(find
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/i586/ -name '*noarch.rpm' | xargs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -n1 basename |sort)&lt;(find /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -name '*noarch.rpm' | xargs -n1 basename | sort) | grep '^[&lt;&gt;]'
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> bluez-firmware-1.2-6.mga1.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> colorize-0.3.4-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> fusion-icon-0.1-4.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> jgoodies-animation-javadoc-1.3.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> kde-l10n-en_GB-4.8.0-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> kde-l10n-he-4.7.97-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> kde-l10n-he-handbooks-4.7.97-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> kde-l10n-id-4.7.97-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> kde-l10n-kn-4.7.97-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> kde-l10n-ug-4.7.97-1.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> speedtouch-firmware-0.1-9.mga2.nonfree.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> x11-font-adobe-utopia-100dpi-1.0.4-2.mga1.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> x11-font-adobe-utopia-75dpi-1.0.4-3.mga1.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> xml-commons-apis-manual-1.4.01-6.mga2.noarch.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> None of those packages are obsoleted by anything.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Did they get removed manually from i586 without a proper obsolete?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can the maintainers confirm what should happen to them?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> _______________________________________________
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia-sysadm mailing list
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">Mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm">https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-sysadm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In x86_64:
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-af_ZA-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 505K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-ar_AR-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 139K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-az_AZ-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 67K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-bg_BG-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 374K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-ca_ES-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 374K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-cop_EG-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 41K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-cs_CZ-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 965K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-csb_CSB-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18
+</I>&gt;<i> 53K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-cy_GB-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 564K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-da_DK-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 453K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-de_AT-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 22K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-de_CH-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 1.1M
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-de_DE-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 2.9M
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-el_GR-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 1.2M
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-en_AU-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 186K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-en_CA-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 331K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-en_GB-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 247K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-en_NZ-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 201K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-en_US-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 3.0M
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-en_ZA-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 244K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-eo_EO-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 94K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-es_ES-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 757K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-es_MX-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 248K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-et_EE-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 649K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-eu_ES-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 438K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-fa_FA-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 636K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-fa_IR-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 636K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-fi_FI-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 15K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-fj_FJ-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 84K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-fo_FO-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 297K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-fr_BE-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 16K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-fr_FR-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 1.2M
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-fur_IT-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18
+</I>&gt;<i> 124K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-fy_NL-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 96K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-ga_IE-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 271K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-gd_GB-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 57K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-gl_ES-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 188K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-gsc_FR-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18
+</I>&gt;<i> 4.1M
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-he_IL-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 449K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-hi_IN-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 69K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-hr_HR-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 621K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-hu_HU-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 521K
+</I>&gt;<i> [GZ] &#160; &#160;myspell-hy_AM-1.0.2-30.mga1.noarch.rpm &#160; &#160;11-Feb-2011 22:18 &#160; &#160; 361K
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4526">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4526</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> A subpackage switched from arch specified to noarch, result: everything
+</I>&gt;<i> hangs on mirrors.
+</I>
+I know about those and had cleaned them already, that's why they are
+not in the list I posted :)
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+    <B>eatdirt</B> 
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+<PRE>Hi there,
+I got this warning by trying to setup a chroot of mageia 1, being under 
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+can not migrate rpm db from Hash version 9 to Hash version 8 without 
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+The rpm data base is corrupted under the chroot, as expected. urpmf 
+db42_load gives nothing, as I can find only db47 or 48.
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+Any suggestion welcome!
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+Cheers,
+Chris.
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+<PRE>On 18.02.2012 19:27, eatdirt wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i> I got this warning by trying to setup a chroot of mageia 1, being under
+</I>&gt;<i> cauldron
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> can not migrate rpm db from Hash version 9 to Hash version 8 without
+</I>&gt;<i> db42_load
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The rpm data base is corrupted under the chroot, as expected. urpmf
+</I>&gt;<i> db42_load gives nothing, as I can find only db47 or 48.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Any suggestion welcome!
+</I>
+I thought mga1 uses Hash v9, maybe urpmi wrongly tries to perform a
+downgrade?
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+And AFAICS mga1 rpm uses db4.8 anyway, so using db42_load seems wrong.
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 18/02/2012 01:28, andre999 a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Exactly. Let's document all virtual provides.
+</I>Once again 'virtual provide' makes no sense, just because there is no 
+non-virtual provides (and in plain english, no provides at all, because 
+that's a verb, not a noun). They are virtual *packages*, by opposition 
+to actual packages, for which you can find a file with same name.
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+I've talked about default docks in the standard desktop configuration. 
+Upstream won't include anything and they propose to add:
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+- wmudmount <A HREF="http://dockapps.windowmaker.org/file.php/id/357">http://dockapps.windowmaker.org/file.php/id/357</A>
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+- wmmixer or equivalent <A HREF="http://dockapps.windowmaker.org/list.php/cat_id/3">http://dockapps.windowmaker.org/list.php/cat_id/3</A>
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+Is there anything else to consider? There is just missing a dockapp for 
+network manager, I think it would be managed through wmsystray and 
+networkmanager from Gnome (or is there something lighter? maybe from 
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+<PRE>On 18.02.2012 19:56, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 18/02/2012 01:28, andre999 a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Exactly. Let's document all virtual provides.
+</I>&gt;<i> Once again 'virtual provide' makes no sense, just because there is no 
+</I>&gt;<i> non-virtual provides (and in plain english, no provides at all, 
+</I>&gt;<i> because that's a verb, not a noun). They are virtual *packages*, by 
+</I>&gt;<i> opposition to actual packages, for which you can find a file with same 
+</I>&gt;<i> name.
+</I>Thank you for this e-mail.
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 19:18, tv &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Name &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: libproxy &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version &#160; &#160; : 0.4.7 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release &#160; &#160; : 4.mga2 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Build Date: Sat Feb 18 20:15:09 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group &#160; &#160; &#160; : System/Libraries &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: 99734 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;License: LGPLv2+
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature &#160; : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager &#160; &#160;: tv &lt;tv&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; : <A HREF="http://code.google.com/p/libproxy/">http://code.google.com/p/libproxy/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary &#160; &#160; : A library handling all the details of proxy configuration
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> libproxy offers the following features:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* extremely small core footprint (&lt; 35K)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* no external dependencies within libproxy core
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160;(libproxy plugins may have dependencies)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* only 3 functions in the stable external API
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* dynamic adjustment to changing network topology
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* a standard way of dealing with proxy settings across all scenarios
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* a sublime sense of joy and accomplishment
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> tv &lt;tv&gt; 0.4.7-4.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 210510
+</I>&gt;<i> - drop libproxy-webkit
+</I>&gt;<i> - drop libproxy-mozjs
+</I>
+obsoletes are wrong on x86_64
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+&gt;<i> - do not try to build with libxulrunner
+</I>&gt;<i> - rebuild for new xulrunner
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+    <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Can someone who can still boot (i.e. into older kernel) post a log of
+</I>&gt;<i> the dracut command and the output from lsinitrd on the resulting image?
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+<A HREF="http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/dracut.log">http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/dracut.log</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/lsinitrd-broken.txt">http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/lsinitrd-broken.txt</A>  (Broken kernel 3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2) 
+<A HREF="http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/lsinitrd.txt">http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/lsinitrd.txt</A>  (working older kernel 3.2.1-desktop-2.mga2)
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+I got a broken system after latest updates, which was the first updates in a few weeks because i don't run the cauldron VBox image to often.
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+</I>&gt;<i> I know at least 2 people in the packagers group who use xfce. So if they
+</I>&gt;<i> have no knowledge for maintaining rpms ( and a dm doesn't require more
+</I>&gt;<i> knowledge than anything else ), that would be shocking. 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway, if a major DE is unmaintained, maybe we should start to think
+</I>&gt;<i> removing it until there is enough volunteer, since we do not want to
+</I>&gt;<i> have a popular application to be crappy due to lack of maintainer. This
+</I>&gt;<i> would be lying to user, and giving them false expectations.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
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+@Michael
+If you want to make the users of Mageia run away, continue on this tone!
+I left Mandriva for the same reason
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+&gt;<i> Michael Scherer&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at ...</A>&gt;  writes:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I know at least 2 people in the packagers group who use xfce. So if they
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have no knowledge for maintaining rpms ( and a dm doesn't require more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> knowledge than anything else ), that would be shocking.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anyway, if a major DE is unmaintained, maybe we should start to think
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> removing it until there is enough volunteer, since we do not want to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> have a popular application to be crappy due to lack of maintainer. This
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> would be lying to user, and giving them false expectations.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> @Michael
+</I>&gt;<i> If you want to make the users of Mageia run away, continue on this tone!
+</I>&gt;<i> I left Mandriva for the same reason
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I don't see the reason for this answer.
+Michael is just trying to make sure, we don't have a unmaintained major DE.
+Now, some maybe a bit harsh words on the developer mailing list - this 
+is no user support list or forum or whatever - are far better, then 
+having something like xfce unmaintained.
+After all, what makes users run away: some not all that courteous mails 
+on the -dev ml, whose existence they may or may not be aware of or a 
+perhaps buggy, not updated, unmaintained desktop?
+And if we keep a whole DE unmaintained in the repos, what does that say 
+about overall package quality?
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+Oliver
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> rfox]# urpmi unetbootin
+To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be
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+  extlinux                       4.04         2.mga2        x86_64  
+  perl-Crypt-PasswdMD5           1.300.0      1.mga1        noarch  
+  syslinux                       4.04         2.mga2        x86_64  
+  unetbootin                     0            2.563.mga2    x86_64  
+3.6MB of additional disk space will be used.
+1MB of packages will be retrieved.
+Proceed with the installation of the 4 packages? (Y/n) 
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+When I start unetbootin - I get an error message stating that extlinx is
+not found - but oddly enough, it is installed . . .
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+Thx,
+R.Fox
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+    <B>Robert Fox</B> 
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> rfox]# urpmi unetbootin
+To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be
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+   Package                        Version      Release       Arch   
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+  extlinux                       4.04         2.mga2        x86_64  
+  perl-Crypt-PasswdMD5           1.300.0      1.mga1        noarch  
+  syslinux                       4.04         2.mga2        x86_64  
+  unetbootin                     0            2.563.mga2    x86_64  
+3.6MB of additional disk space will be used.
+1MB of packages will be retrieved.
+Proceed with the installation of the 4 packages? (Y/n) 
+
+When I start unetbootin - I get an error message stating that extlinx is
+not found - but oddly enough, it is installed . . .
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+Thx,
+R.Fox
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> bertl &lt;bertl&gt; 0.33-4.20110311.3.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 210721
+</I>&gt;<i> - added various fixes from the ensc branch
+</I>
+A link wouldn't be bad...
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+&gt;<i> - updated clone prototype
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix off by one in memchr
+</I>&gt;<i> - ensure max bytes in strftime
+</I>&gt;<i> - lseek64 for 64-bit (=lseek)
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+&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> wmDrawer is a dock application (dockapp) which provides a drawer
+</I>&gt;<i> (retractable button bar) to launch applications.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please copy the file /usr/share/doc/wmdrawer-0.10.5/wmdrawerrc to
+</I>&gt;<i> ~/.wmdrawerrc and edit it to match your needs.
+</I>
+This is bogus.
+This shouldn't be in %description but in /etc/skel/ ...
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>I'm looking to theme GDM+GNOME with:
+1: changing the default background
+2: putting a Mageia logo above the GDM userlist
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+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4419">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4419</A>
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+This can be done by (1 and 2 match up with above):
+1a. Making an XML file for the default Mageia background and placing that
+    into /usr/share/gnome-background-properties
+    XML such as:
+    <A HREF="http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-backgrounds/tree/backgrounds/gnome-backgrounds.xml.in.in">http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-backgrounds/tree/backgrounds/gnome-backgrounds.xml.in.in</A>
+    Note: this allows translation! Just going to call it Mageia and not
+    setup translation (due to simple reason that I do not know how).
+1b. Creating an gschema.override file to change the default background.
+    gschema.override such as:
+    <A HREF="https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=glib2-branding.gschema.override.in&amp;package=glib2-branding-openSUSE&amp;project=openSUSE%3AFactory&amp;rev=e64e8406fad55bc7ec175dfcbe3d5c47">https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=glib2-branding.gschema.override.in&amp;package=glib2-branding-openSUSE&amp;project=openSUSE%3AFactory&amp;rev=e64e8406fad55bc7ec175dfcbe3d5c47</A>
+    This needs to be compiled by glib-compile-schemas. I've ensured the
+    existing filetrigger also works for '.override' files as of
+    glib2.0-2.31.16-2.mga2
+1c. Patching gnome-control-center to assume the default background
+    within /usr/share/gnome-background-properties is specified in
+    &quot;mageia.xml&quot; if it exists, else, &quot;adwaita.xml&quot;.
+    Note: this is a hack, but unfortunately the default is not in
+    gsettings, so cannot nicely override.
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+2a. Creating an gschema.override file to the Mageia logo (as SVG):
+    <A HREF="http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=gdm.git;a=blob;f=org.gnome.login-screen.gschema.override;hb=HEAD">http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=gdm.git;a=blob;f=org.gnome.login-screen.gschema.override;hb=HEAD</A>
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+Now, IMO, this should be done in the Mageia theme package. This so:
+- If you don't want these backgrounds, you can just remove them
+- If Mageia wants different backgrounds for Live cd / DVD / special
+  release then it is just a matter of packaging them
+- Don't have to put a Require: on some Mageia theme in
+  gdm/gnome-control-center, etc.
+
+However, due to 1c, the background within the theme MUST have a file
+called /usr/share/gnome-background-properties/mageia.xml. So the themes
+will conflict with eachother. At the moment, it seems there only is one
+theme package called mageia-theme-Default. I'm guessing it is ok if the
+themes conflict, otherwise you do not know which one should give the
+background.
+
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+To recap, I need to put the following files in some package:
+- /usr/share/gnome-background-properties/mageia.xml
+  =&gt; mageia-theme-Default ? who owns the directory then?
+- <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/g/media/logo/mageia-2011.svg">http://www.mageia.org/g/media/logo/mageia-2011.svg</A>
+  =&gt; mageia-theme-Default or desktop-common-data ?
+- /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/mageia-theme-Default.override
+  =&gt; mageia-theme-Default and depend on glib2.0-common?
+- (and patch gnome-control-center)
+  =&gt; not sure if I can :P
+
+Now, I know which files I need to package, but I have trouble with in
+which package to put them without creating incorrect Requires.
+
+If I package /usr/share/gnome-background-properties/mageia.xml, should I
+depend on gnome-control-center (as the directory is part of
+gnome-control-center), or not? Can I ignore this? Ignoring this would
+allow me to just put it in mageia-theme-Default
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+For /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/mageia-theme-Default.override,
+glib-compile-schemas needs to run. Should I depend on glib for the file
+trigger. That seems a bit much for mageia-theme-Default. How to solve? I
+noticed mageia-theme-kde-background, but that just gives one background.
+It also doesn't have any dependencies on KDE, which seems a bit odd.
+
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+Note: I also see
+/usr/share/gnome-background-properties/gnome-default.xml; it is NOT
+used.
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+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+&gt;<i> I don't see the reason for this answer.
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael is just trying to make sure, we don't have a unmaintained major DE.
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, some maybe a bit harsh words on the developer mailing list - this 
+</I>&gt;<i> is no user support list or forum or whatever - are far better, then 
+</I>&gt;<i> having something like xfce unmaintained.
+</I>&gt;<i> After all, what makes users run away: some not all that courteous mails 
+</I>&gt;<i> on the -dev ml, whose existence they may or may not be aware of or a 
+</I>&gt;<i> perhaps buggy, not updated, unmaintained desktop?
+</I>&gt;<i> And if we keep a whole DE unmaintained in the repos, what does that say 
+</I>&gt;<i> about overall package quality?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>OK, you are right. Sorry.
+I wish ardently that Xfce remains maintained.
+For my part I participate in it as tester,
+where from my a little bit virulent reaction.
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+This place is also, I think, the only place where it is possible
+to have a dialogue with developers.
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 07:03, luigiwalser
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Name &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: libpng &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version &#160; &#160; : 1.5.9 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release &#160; &#160; : 1.mga2 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Build Date: Sun Feb 19 08:02:19 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group &#160; &#160; &#160; : System/Libraries &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: 726986 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; License: zlib
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature &#160; : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager &#160; &#160;: luigiwalser &lt;luigiwalser&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; : <A HREF="http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/libpng.html">http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/libpng.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary &#160; &#160; : A library of functions for manipulating PNG image format files
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> The libpng package contains a library of functions for creating and
+</I>&gt;<i> manipulating PNG (Portable Network Graphics) image format files. &#160;PNG is
+</I>&gt;<i> a bit-mapped graphics format similar to the GIF format. &#160;PNG was created to
+</I>&gt;<i> replace the GIF format, since GIF uses a patented data compression
+</I>&gt;<i> algorithm.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Libpng should be installed if you need to manipulate PNG format image
+</I>&gt;<i> files.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> luigiwalser &lt;luigiwalser&gt; 2:1.5.9-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 210678
+</I>&gt;<i> - 1.5.9 (fix CVE-2011-3026)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;+ fwang &lt;fwang&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- there is no package requiring static package and source package to build
+</I>
+You should obsolete them, else people will keep that old packages on
+their systems (and they remain on mirrors)
+<A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/fwang/missing.html">http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/fwang/missing.html</A>
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+&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;- new version 1.5.8
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+    <I>Sun Feb 19 14:14:19 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>I was looking at that package, which is a collection of drivers for
+some printers, not updated for years
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+It is one of the two packages requiring automake1.4, because of the
+included	drv_z42
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+Looking on <A HREF="http://www.openprinting.org/driver/drv_z42/">http://www.openprinting.org/driver/drv_z42/</A> original
+website no longer exist, and even if openprinting now hosts it they
+say &quot;This driver is obsolete. Recommended replacement driver:
+gutenprint&quot;
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+Does anyone has enough time to see if other drivers in this package
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+And actually, if we install this package.
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20%5Bchangelog%5D%20%5BRPM%5D%20cauldron%20core/release%0A%09postfix-2.8.8-1.mga2&In-Reply-To=%3C4F410183.9080609%40gmail.com%3E"
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+<PRE>Le 19/02/2012 01:08, luigiwalser a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Name        : postfix                      Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version     : 2.8.8                             Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release     : 1.mga2                        Build Date: Sun Feb 19 01:05:54 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed)               Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group       : System/Servers                Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size        : 4025733                          License: IBM Public License
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature   : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager    : luigiwalser&lt;luigiwalser&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL         : <A HREF="http://www.postfix.org/">http://www.postfix.org/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary     : Postfix Mail Transport Agent
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> Postfix is a Mail Transport Agent (MTA), supporting LDAP, SMTP AUTH (SASL),
+</I>&gt;<i> TLS and running in a chroot environment.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Postfix is Wietse Venema's mailer that started life as an alternative
+</I>&gt;<i> to the widely-used Sendmail program.
+</I>&gt;<i> Postfix attempts to be fast, easy to administer, and secure, while at
+</I>&gt;<i> the same time being sendmail compatible enough to not upset existing
+</I>&gt;<i> users. Thus, the outside has a sendmail-ish flavor, but the inside is
+</I>&gt;<i> completely different.
+</I>&gt;<i> This software was formerly known as VMailer. It was released by the end
+</I>&gt;<i> of 1998 as the IBM Secure Mailer. From then on it has lived on as Postfix.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This rpm supports different build time options, to enable or disable these
+</I>&gt;<i> features you must rebuild the source rpm using the --with ... or --without ...
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm option.
+</I>&gt;<i> Currently postfix has been built with:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 	Smtpd multiline greeting: --without multiline
+</I>&gt;<i> 	Virtual Delivery Agent: --without VDA
+</I>&gt;<i> 	Munge bare CR: --without barecr
+</I>&gt;<i> 	TLS support: --with tls
+</I>&gt;<i> 	IPV6 support: --with ipv6
+</I>&gt;<i> 	CDB support: --with cdb
+</I>&gt;<i> 	Chroot by default: --with chroot
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> luigiwalser&lt;luigiwalser&gt;  1:2.8.8-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 210583
+</I>&gt;<i> - 2.8.8
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix creation of /etc/sysconfig/postfix on clean install (mdv #65025)
+</I>&gt;<i> - add openssl dependancy for certificate generation on install (from mdv)
+</I>As certificate generation is done through rpm-helper scripts, the 
+dependency should rather be in the latest package.
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+&gt;<i> - fix README.MGA filename
+</I>Reverting previous change without reason can hardly be considered a fix.
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+&gt;<i>    + guillomovitch&lt;guillomovitch&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>      - rename distribution-specific file to README.mga, and don't advertise it in package description
+</I>
+-- 
+BOFH excuse #409:
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+The vulcan-death-grip ping has been applied.
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+<PRE>Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 19/02/2012 01:08, luigiwalser a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Name        : postfix                      Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Version     : 2.8.8                             Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Release     : 1.mga2                        Build Date: Sun Feb 19 01:05:54 2012
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> luigiwalser&lt;luigiwalser&gt;  1:2.8.8-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 210583
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - 2.8.8
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - fix creation of /etc/sysconfig/postfix on clean install (mdv #65025)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - add openssl dependancy for certificate generation on install (from mdv)
+</I>&gt;<i> As certificate generation is done through rpm-helper scripts, the 
+</I>&gt;<i> dependency should rather be in the latest package.
+</I>
+What?
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+&gt;&gt;<i> - fix README.MGA filename
+</I>&gt;<i> Reverting previous change without reason can hardly be considered a fix.
+</I>
+The reason is the package didn't build.  You had the source file named .MGA, copied to a file called .mga in the buildroot, and listed as 
+.MGA in the files list.  The package didn't build due to the missing file.  I checked other packages and the capitalized version seems to be 
+the standard way to name it, so I fixed it.
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+<PRE>Pascal Terjan wrote:
+&gt;<i> I was looking at that package, which is a collection of drivers for
+</I>&gt;<i> some printers, not updated for years
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It is one of the two packages requiring automake1.4, because of the
+</I>&gt;<i> included	drv_z42
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Looking on <A HREF="http://www.openprinting.org/driver/drv_z42/">http://www.openprinting.org/driver/drv_z42/</A> original
+</I>&gt;<i> website no longer exist, and even if openprinting now hosts it they
+</I>&gt;<i> say &quot;This driver is obsolete. Recommended replacement driver:
+</I>&gt;<i> gutenprint&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Should we drop it?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Does anyone has enough time to see if other drivers in this package
+</I>&gt;<i> may still be needed?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And actually, if we install this package.
+</I>
+Also from openprinting, there are security issues fixed in the newest foomatic-filters (needs updated in Mageia 1 and Cauldron, see Bug 
+3979).  They also have a new CUPS filters set that probably needs to be packaged.  Upstream notes on it:
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+&quot;Apple decided to not continue to develop and maintain the CUPS filters and backends which are not used by Mac OS X and moved them to 
+OpenPrinting. They also did not accept the new filters for the PDF-based printing workflow as they are also not used by Mac OS X.
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+All these filters we continue to maintain now in one package, the OpenPrinting CUPS Filters and announce here the first stable release of 
+this package, versionn 1.0.1.&quot;
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+<PRE>here is another example of package dependencies that need each other
+p11-kit-0.11-1.mga2.i586.rpm needs
+libp11-kit.so.0 is needed by p11-kit-0.11-1.mga2.i586
+libp11kit needs p11-kit
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+On 02/19/2012 04:42 AM, Robert Fox wrote:
+&gt;<i> After installing unetbootin on my updated Cauldron box:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at foxbase</A> rfox]# urpmi unetbootin
+</I>&gt;<i> To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be
+</I>&gt;<i> installed:
+</I>&gt;<i>     Package                        Version      Release       Arch
+</I>&gt;<i> (medium &quot;Core Release&quot;)
+</I>&gt;<i>    extlinux                       4.04         2.mga2        x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i>    perl-Crypt-PasswdMD5           1.300.0      1.mga1        noarch
+</I>&gt;<i>    syslinux                       4.04         2.mga2        x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i>    unetbootin                     0            2.563.mga2    x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i> 3.6MB of additional disk space will be used.
+</I>&gt;<i> 1MB of packages will be retrieved.
+</I>&gt;<i> Proceed with the installation of the 4 packages? (Y/n)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When I start unetbootin - I get an error message stating that extlinx is
+</I>&gt;<i> not found - but oddly enough, it is installed . . .
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thx,
+</I>&gt;<i> R.Fox
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+&gt;<i> On 18.02.2012 19:27, eatdirt wrote:
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+&gt;<i> I thought mga1 uses Hash v9, maybe urpmi wrongly tries to perform a
+</I>&gt;<i> downgrade?
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+</I>&gt;<i> And AFAICS mga1 rpm uses db4.8 anyway, so using db42_load seems wrong.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Yes, it does indeed that. I installed mdv db42-utils packages and urpmi 
+logs that it downgrades Hash v9 to 8. The rpm db gets indeed destroyed 
+at the end. I'll open a bug.
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+<PRE>When trying to install libavformat53-0.10-1.mga2.i586.rpm it says:
+libavfilter.so.2 is needed by libavformat53-0.10-1.mga2.i586
+when I try to install libavfilter it says:
+libavformat.so.53 is needed by libavfilter2-0.10-1.mga2.i586
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+I know how to nodep and force and what not and only mention this becuase 
+I think that it may require attention.
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+Richard
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+On 02/19/2012 04:14 AM, Oliver Burger wrote:
+&gt;<i> Am 19.02.2012 10:35, schrieb Pa&#239;ou:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Michael Scherer&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I know at least 2 people in the packagers group who use xfce. So if they
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have no knowledge for maintaining rpms ( and a dm doesn't require more
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> knowledge than anything else ), that would be shocking.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anyway, if a major DE is unmaintained, maybe we should start to think
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> removing it until there is enough volunteer, since we do not want to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> have a popular application to be crappy due to lack of maintainer. This
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> would be lying to user, and giving them false expectations.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> @Michael
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you want to make the users of Mageia run away, continue on this tone!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I left Mandriva for the same reason
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't see the reason for this answer.
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael is just trying to make sure, we don't have a unmaintained major DE.
+</I>&gt;<i> Now, some maybe a bit harsh words on the developer mailing list - this
+</I>&gt;<i> is no user support list or forum or whatever - are far better, then
+</I>&gt;<i> having something like xfce unmaintained.
+</I>&gt;<i> After all, what makes users run away: some not all that courteous mails
+</I>&gt;<i> on the -dev ml, whose existence they may or may not be aware of or a
+</I>&gt;<i> perhaps buggy, not updated, unmaintained desktop?
+</I>&gt;<i> And if we keep a whole DE unmaintained in the repos, what does that say
+</I>&gt;<i> about overall package quality?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oliver
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> ? 2012-2-12 ??12:08?&quot;David Walser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt;???
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> D Morgan asked us to say if removal of .la files broke anything.  It
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> breaks xpdf, and I don't know if it's fixable.  xpdf needs libXt.la to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> build libxpdf.la, and the xpdf build is heavily dependent on libxpdf.la.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>  See xpdf-3.03-shared.diff for example.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The problem is xpdf depends on lesstif, it will bring libXt.la. But lesstif
+</I>&gt;<i> cannot be built now for some reasons.
+</I>
+OK, I see that Funda synced lesstif with Mandriva and fixed the package.  It now builds locally and I believe it is OK.  On the build system, 
+it always fails with gcc segfaulting, and it fails at a different place every time.  I have seen this with other packages where eventually it 
+will work, and it seems to be a resources issue that causes it.  It appears not enough resources (probably RAM) are allocated to the VM (I'm 
+assuming it's a VM) on the build system to build this package.
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+<PRE>Guillaume Rousse a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 18/02/2012 01:28, andre999 a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Exactly. Let's document all virtual provides.
+</I>&gt;<i> Once again 'virtual provide' makes no sense, just because there is no 
+</I>&gt;<i> non-virtual provides (and in plain english, no provides at all, 
+</I>&gt;<i> because that's a verb, not a noun). They are virtual *packages*, by 
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+</I>&gt;<i> name.
+</I>True ;)
+Just using a common phrase.
+(BTW, a verb can be used as a noun in English, although that is more an 
+exceptional usage.)
+Since &quot;provides&quot; is the keyword used, it makes sense to me to use that 
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+Better to say something like &quot;defined provides&quot; or &quot;explicit provides&quot; ?
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+<PRE>On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 15:55, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Funda Wang wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ? 2012-2-12 ??12:08?&quot;David Walser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt;???
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> D Morgan asked us to say if removal of .la files broke anything. &#160;It
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> breaks xpdf, and I don't know if it's fixable. &#160;xpdf needs libXt.la to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> build libxpdf.la, and the xpdf build is heavily dependent on libxpdf.la.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;See xpdf-3.03-shared.diff for example.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The problem is xpdf depends on lesstif, it will bring libXt.la. But lesstif
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> cannot be built now for some reasons.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, I see that Funda synced lesstif with Mandriva and fixed the package. &#160;It now builds locally and I believe it is OK. &#160;On the build system,
+</I>&gt;<i> it always fails with gcc segfaulting, and it fails at a different place every time. &#160;I have seen this with other packages where eventually it
+</I>&gt;<i> will work, and it seems to be a resources issue that causes it. &#160;It appears not enough resources (probably RAM) are allocated to the VM (I'm
+</I>&gt;<i> assuming it's a VM) on the build system to build this package.
+</I>
+It's not a vm and it has either 8GB of ram (ecosse) or 12GB (jonund)
++4GB swap...
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 15:55, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Funda Wang wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ? 2012-2-12 ??12:08?&quot;David Walser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt;???
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> D Morgan asked us to say if removal of .la files broke anything. &#160;It
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> breaks xpdf, and I don't know if it's fixable. &#160;xpdf needs libXt.la to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> build libxpdf.la, and the xpdf build is heavily dependent on libxpdf.la.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;See xpdf-3.03-shared.diff for example.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The problem is xpdf depends on lesstif, it will bring libXt.la. But lesstif
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cannot be built now for some reasons.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OK, I see that Funda synced lesstif with Mandriva and fixed the package. &#160;It now builds locally and I believe it is OK. &#160;On the build system,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> it always fails with gcc segfaulting, and it fails at a different place every time. &#160;I have seen this with other packages where eventually it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> will work, and it seems to be a resources issue that causes it. &#160;It appears not enough resources (probably RAM) are allocated to the VM (I'm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> assuming it's a VM) on the build system to build this package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's not a vm and it has either 8GB of ram (ecosse) or 12GB (jonund)
+</I>&gt;<i> +4GB swap...
+</I>
+Looking at the log, this is just a normal internal compiler error from gcc:
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+XmString.c: In function 'XmStringGetNextTriple':
+XmString.c:5484:9: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different
+size [-Wpointer-to-int-cast]
+XmString.c: In function 'XmStringComponentCreate':
+XmString.c:5520:33: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different
+size [-Wpointer-to-int-cast]
+{standard input}: Assembler messages:
+{standard input}: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted
+{standard input}:1840: Error: number of operands mismatch for `test'
+{standard input}: Error: open CFI at the end of file; missing
+.cfi_endproc directive
+gcc: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault (program cc1)
+Please submit a full bug report,
+with preprocessed source if appropriate.
+See &lt;<A HREF="http://bugs.mageia.org/">http://bugs.mageia.org/</A>&gt; for instructions.
+make[2]: *** [XmString.lo] Error 1
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+It was reported at least on <A HREF="https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/27357">https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/27357</A> but
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+&gt;<i> Guillaume Rousse a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 18/02/2012 01:28, andre999 a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Exactly. Let's document all virtual provides.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Once again 'virtual provide' makes no sense, just because there is no 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> non-virtual provides (and in plain english, no provides at all, 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> because that's a verb, not a noun). They are virtual *packages*, by 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> opposition to actual packages, for which you can find a file with 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> same name.
+</I>&gt;<i> True ;)
+</I>&gt;<i> Just using a common phrase.
+</I>&gt;<i> (BTW, a verb can be used as a noun in English, although that is more 
+</I>&gt;<i> an exceptional usage.)
+</I>&gt;<i> Since &quot;provides&quot; is the keyword used, it makes sense to me to use that 
+</I>&gt;<i> in the reference.
+</I>&gt;<i> Better to say something like &quot;defined provides&quot; or &quot;explicit provides&quot; ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Thinking about it, &quot;virtual provides&quot; does make sense, if viewed in the 
+context of providing a package, rather than a function.
+Because although an explicitly defined &quot;provides&quot; indicates that the 
+package in question really does provide the functionality, it only 
+virtually provides the package that gives the functionality.
+Of course in some cases, the function isn't associated with a real 
+package, but rather a virtual package, so that would be virtually 
+providing a virtual package.
+Further, every package strictly provides itself, which can be seen as a 
+non-virtual provide.
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+Another 2 cents :)
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+&gt;<i> On 18 February 2012 23:54, kamil&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wmDrawer is a dock application (dockapp) which provides a drawer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (retractable button bar) to launch applications.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please copy the file /usr/share/doc/wmdrawer-0.10.5/wmdrawerrc to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ~/.wmdrawerrc and edit it to match your needs.
+</I>&gt;<i> This is bogus.
+</I>&gt;<i> This shouldn't be in %description but in /etc/skel/ ...
+</I>Thank you, good advice!
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+<PRE>On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 16:29, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 16:23, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 15:55, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Funda Wang wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ? 2012-2-12 ??12:08?&quot;David Walser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt;???
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> D Morgan asked us to say if removal of .la files broke anything. &#160;It
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> breaks xpdf, and I don't know if it's fixable. &#160;xpdf needs libXt.la to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> build libxpdf.la, and the xpdf build is heavily dependent on libxpdf.la.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;See xpdf-3.03-shared.diff for example.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The problem is xpdf depends on lesstif, it will bring libXt.la. But lesstif
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cannot be built now for some reasons.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> OK, I see that Funda synced lesstif with Mandriva and fixed the package. &#160;It now builds locally and I believe it is OK. &#160;On the build system,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it always fails with gcc segfaulting, and it fails at a different place every time. &#160;I have seen this with other packages where eventually it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> will work, and it seems to be a resources issue that causes it. &#160;It appears not enough resources (probably RAM) are allocated to the VM (I'm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> assuming it's a VM) on the build system to build this package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's not a vm and it has either 8GB of ram (ecosse) or 12GB (jonund)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +4GB swap...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Looking at the log, this is just a normal internal compiler error from gcc:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> XmString.c: In function 'XmStringGetNextTriple':
+</I>&gt;<i> XmString.c:5484:9: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different
+</I>&gt;<i> size [-Wpointer-to-int-cast]
+</I>&gt;<i> XmString.c: In function 'XmStringComponentCreate':
+</I>&gt;<i> XmString.c:5520:33: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different
+</I>&gt;<i> size [-Wpointer-to-int-cast]
+</I>&gt;<i> {standard input}: Assembler messages:
+</I>&gt;<i> {standard input}: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted
+</I>&gt;<i> {standard input}:1840: Error: number of operands mismatch for `test'
+</I>&gt;<i> {standard input}: Error: open CFI at the end of file; missing
+</I>&gt;<i> .cfi_endproc directive
+</I>&gt;<i> gcc: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault (program cc1)
+</I>&gt;<i> Please submit a full bug report,
+</I>&gt;<i> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
+</I>&gt;<i> See &lt;<A HREF="http://bugs.mageia.org/">http://bugs.mageia.org/</A>&gt; for instructions.
+</I>&gt;<i> make[2]: *** [XmString.lo] Error 1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It was reported at least on <A HREF="https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/27357">https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/27357</A> but
+</I>&gt;<i> I din't find upstream (gcc) report. I'll try to have a look.
+</I>
+Crash happens when you build <A HREF="http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/tmp/XmStringE.c">http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/tmp/XmStringE.c</A>
+with -O1 or -O2, I'll test on other arch/versions and report bug
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 17:08, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 16:29, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 16:23, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 15:55, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Funda Wang wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ? 2012-2-12 ??12:08?&quot;David Walser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt;???
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> D Morgan asked us to say if removal of .la files broke anything. &#160;It
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> breaks xpdf, and I don't know if it's fixable. &#160;xpdf needs libXt.la to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> build libxpdf.la, and the xpdf build is heavily dependent on libxpdf.la.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;See xpdf-3.03-shared.diff for example.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The problem is xpdf depends on lesstif, it will bring libXt.la. But lesstif
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cannot be built now for some reasons.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> OK, I see that Funda synced lesstif with Mandriva and fixed the package. &#160;It now builds locally and I believe it is OK. &#160;On the build system,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it always fails with gcc segfaulting, and it fails at a different place every time. &#160;I have seen this with other packages where eventually it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> will work, and it seems to be a resources issue that causes it. &#160;It appears not enough resources (probably RAM) are allocated to the VM (I'm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> assuming it's a VM) on the build system to build this package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's not a vm and it has either 8GB of ram (ecosse) or 12GB (jonund)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +4GB swap...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Looking at the log, this is just a normal internal compiler error from gcc:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> XmString.c: In function 'XmStringGetNextTriple':
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> XmString.c:5484:9: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> size [-Wpointer-to-int-cast]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> XmString.c: In function 'XmStringComponentCreate':
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> XmString.c:5520:33: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> size [-Wpointer-to-int-cast]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> {standard input}: Assembler messages:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> {standard input}: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> {standard input}:1840: Error: number of operands mismatch for `test'
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> {standard input}: Error: open CFI at the end of file; missing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> .cfi_endproc directive
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gcc: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault (program cc1)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please submit a full bug report,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See &lt;<A HREF="http://bugs.mageia.org/">http://bugs.mageia.org/</A>&gt; for instructions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> make[2]: *** [XmString.lo] Error 1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It was reported at least on <A HREF="https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/27357">https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/27357</A> but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I din't find upstream (gcc) report. I'll try to have a look.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Crash happens when you build <A HREF="http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/tmp/XmStringE.c">http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/tmp/XmStringE.c</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> with -O1 or -O2, I'll test on other arch/versions and report bug
+</I>&gt;<i> upstream
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52310">http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52310</A>
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 17:23, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 17:08, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 16:29, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 16:23, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 15:55, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Funda Wang wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ? 2012-2-12 ??12:08?&quot;David Walser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt;???
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> D Morgan asked us to say if removal of .la files broke anything. &#160;It
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> breaks xpdf, and I don't know if it's fixable. &#160;xpdf needs libXt.la to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> build libxpdf.la, and the xpdf build is heavily dependent on libxpdf.la.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;See xpdf-3.03-shared.diff for example.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The problem is xpdf depends on lesstif, it will bring libXt.la. But lesstif
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cannot be built now for some reasons.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> OK, I see that Funda synced lesstif with Mandriva and fixed the package. &#160;It now builds locally and I believe it is OK. &#160;On the build system,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it always fails with gcc segfaulting, and it fails at a different place every time. &#160;I have seen this with other packages where eventually it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> will work, and it seems to be a resources issue that causes it. &#160;It appears not enough resources (probably RAM) are allocated to the VM (I'm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> assuming it's a VM) on the build system to build this package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's not a vm and it has either 8GB of ram (ecosse) or 12GB (jonund)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +4GB swap...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Looking at the log, this is just a normal internal compiler error from gcc:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> XmString.c: In function 'XmStringGetNextTriple':
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> XmString.c:5484:9: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> size [-Wpointer-to-int-cast]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> XmString.c: In function 'XmStringComponentCreate':
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> XmString.c:5520:33: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> size [-Wpointer-to-int-cast]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> {standard input}: Assembler messages:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> {standard input}: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> {standard input}:1840: Error: number of operands mismatch for `test'
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> {standard input}: Error: open CFI at the end of file; missing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> .cfi_endproc directive
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gcc: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault (program cc1)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please submit a full bug report,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> See &lt;<A HREF="http://bugs.mageia.org/">http://bugs.mageia.org/</A>&gt; for instructions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> make[2]: *** [XmString.lo] Error 1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It was reported at least on <A HREF="https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/27357">https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/27357</A> but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I din't find upstream (gcc) report. I'll try to have a look.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Crash happens when you build <A HREF="http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/tmp/XmStringE.c">http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/tmp/XmStringE.c</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with -O1 or -O2, I'll test on other arch/versions and report bug
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> upstream
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52310">http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52310</A>
+</I>
+Duplicate of <A HREF="http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=51077">http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=51077</A> which
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+    <B>Z&#233;zinho</B> 
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+<PRE>xscreensaver currently does not work, while it worked a few months ago.
+This was noticed because it blacks the screen after 18 seconds for now.
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+I have no idea of how to fix it, so I ask here for someone to watch #4391 :
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4391">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4391</A>
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+If no one steps in, I can remove it from autostart scripts of LXDE, XFCE, 
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+<PRE>zezinho wrote:
+&gt;<i> Name        : phpmyadmin                   Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version     : 3.4.10                            Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release     : 1.mga2                        Build Date: Sun Feb 19 22:50:32 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> zezinho &lt;zezinho&gt; 3.4.10-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 211010
+</I>&gt;<i> - new version
+</I>
+There was a 3.4.10.1 announced yesterday with a XSS security fix:
+<A HREF="http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/security/PMASA-2012-1.php">http://www.phpmyadmin.net/home_page/security/PMASA-2012-1.php</A>
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+&gt;<i> xscreensaver currently does not work, while it worked a few months ago.
+</I>&gt;<i> This was noticed because it blacks the screen after 18 seconds for now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Actually I did notice this, but had no time to look into it.
+And since my time constraints won't get better soon, it would be nice if 
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+I saw every possible way of adding (build)require on desktop-file-utils. 
+Is it necessary? What is the best way to implement it (of course in case 
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hello!
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+</I>&gt;<i> 1.
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the right implementation of an installation of *.desktop files? I
+</I>saw every possible way of adding (build)require on desktop-file-utils. Is
+it necessary? What is the best way to implement it (of course in case of a
+mandatory requirement).
+Most software will install .desktop files themselves.  In case we need to
+modify the menu categories, we often use desktop-file-install.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Is allowed to use macros from jpackage-utils (the file name
+</I>is/etc/rpm/macros.jpackage ) in a simple, normal non-java application? If
+yes, then is mandatory to add a buildrequirement of this package?
+I think yes and yes. There are some packages BR kde4-macros, but they have
+no relation with KDE4.
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+after latest update to 10.0.2, firefox chrashes here:
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+werewolf:~&gt; firefox
+pure virtual method called
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+#2  0x00007ffff7775aed in __gnu_cxx::__verbose_terminate_handler() ()
+   from /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6
+#3  0x00007ffff7773c96 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6
+#4  0x00007ffff7773cc3 in std::terminate() () from /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6
+#5  0x00007ffff77746df in __cxa_pure_virtual () from /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6
+#6  0x00007ffff5e6a60c in js::ProxyHandler::has(JSContext*, JSObject*, long, bool*) () from /usr/lib64/firefox-10.0.2/libxul.so
+#7  0x00007ffff5e6df43 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/firefox-10.0.2/libxul.so
+#8  0x00007ffff5e6dfdf in ?? () from /usr/lib64/firefox-10.0.2/libxul.so
+#9  0x00007ffff5e42b54 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/firefox-10.0.2/libxul.so
+#10 0x00007ffff5e4aa67 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/firefox-10.0.2/libxul.so
+#11 0x00007ffff5e206ec in ?? () from /usr/lib64/firefox-10.0.2/libxul.so
+#12 0x00007ffff5e314df in ?? () from /usr/lib64/firefox-10.0.2/libxul.so
+#13 0x00007ffff5e316c7 in ?? () from /usr/lib64/firefox-10.0.2/libxul.so
+#14 0x00007ffff5dbb4cd in ?? () from /usr/lib64/firefox-10.0.2/libxul.so
+#15 0x00007ffff5dbb584 in JS_EvaluateUCScriptForPrincipals ()
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+Missing a virtual method loos like something needs a rebuild, but what ?
+Anybody else sees this ?
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+J.A. Magallon &lt;jamagallon()ono!com&gt;        \               Winter is coming...
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+<PRE>Am 19.02.2012 15:59, schrieb David Walser:
+&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I was looking at that package, which is a collection of drivers for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> some printers, not updated for years
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is one of the two packages requiring automake1.4, because of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> included	drv_z42
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Looking on <A HREF="http://www.openprinting.org/driver/drv_z42/">http://www.openprinting.org/driver/drv_z42/</A> original
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> website no longer exist, and even if openprinting now hosts it they
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> say &quot;This driver is obsolete. Recommended replacement driver:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> gutenprint&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Should we drop it?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Does anyone has enough time to see if other drivers in this package
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> may still be needed?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And actually, if we install this package.
+</I>&gt;<i> Also from openprinting, there are security issues fixed in the newest foomatic-filters (needs updated in Mageia 1 and Cauldron, see Bug 
+</I>&gt;<i> 3979).  They also have a new CUPS filters set that probably needs to be packaged.  Upstream notes on it:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Apple decided to not continue to develop and maintain the CUPS filters and backends which are not used by Mac OS X and moved them to 
+</I>&gt;<i> OpenPrinting. They also did not accept the new filters for the PDF-based printing workflow as they are also not used by Mac OS X.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> All these filters we continue to maintain now in one package, the OpenPrinting CUPS Filters and announce here the first stable release of 
+</I>&gt;<i> this package, versionn 1.0.1.&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>As you mentioned it, there are far bigger changes coming than just
+adding a new cups filter package (which is still in beta state AFAIK)
+as that is just smaller fallout from changes explained in below links.
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+<A HREF="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.printing.fsg/2020">http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.printing.fsg/2020</A>
+<A HREF="http://cyberelk.net/tim/2012/02/06/cups-1-6-changes-ahead/">http://cyberelk.net/tim/2012/02/06/cups-1-6-changes-ahead/</A>
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 17:23, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 17:08, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 16:29, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 16:23, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 15:55, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Funda Wang wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ? 2012-2-12 ??12:08?&quot;David Walser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt;???
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> D Morgan asked us to say if removal of .la files broke anything.  It
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> breaks xpdf, and I don't know if it's fixable.  xpdf needs libXt.la to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> build libxpdf.la, and the xpdf build is heavily dependent on libxpdf.la.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>  See xpdf-3.03-shared.diff for example.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The problem is xpdf depends on lesstif, it will bring libXt.la. But lesstif
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cannot be built now for some reasons.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> OK, I see that Funda synced lesstif with Mandriva and fixed the package.  It now builds locally and I believe it is OK.  On the build 
+</I>system,
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it always fails with gcc segfaulting, and it fails at a different place every time.  I have seen this with other packages where 
+</I>eventually it
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> will work, and it seems to be a resources issue that causes it.  It appears not enough resources (probably RAM) are allocated to the 
+</I>VM (I'm
+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> assuming it's a VM) on the build system to build this package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's not a vm and it has either 8GB of ram (ecosse) or 12GB (jonund)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +4GB swap...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Looking at the log, this is just a normal internal compiler error from gcc:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> XmString.c: In function 'XmStringGetNextTriple':
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> XmString.c:5484:9: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> size [-Wpointer-to-int-cast]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> XmString.c: In function 'XmStringComponentCreate':
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> XmString.c:5520:33: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> size [-Wpointer-to-int-cast]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> {standard input}: Assembler messages:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> {standard input}: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> {standard input}:1840: Error: number of operands mismatch for `test'
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> {standard input}: Error: open CFI at the end of file; missing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> .cfi_endproc directive
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gcc: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault (program cc1)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please submit a full bug report,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> See &lt;<A HREF="http://bugs.mageia.org/">http://bugs.mageia.org/</A>&gt; for instructions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> make[2]: *** [XmString.lo] Error 1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It was reported at least on <A HREF="https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/27357">https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/27357</A> but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I din't find upstream (gcc) report. I'll try to have a look.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Crash happens when you build <A HREF="http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/tmp/XmStringE.c">http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/tmp/XmStringE.c</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with -O1 or -O2, I'll test on other arch/versions and report bug
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> upstream
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52310">http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52310</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Duplicate of <A HREF="http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=51077">http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=51077</A> which
+</I>&gt;<i> contains a patch for gcc
+</I>
+tmb added the patch to gcc to fix that issue (thanks Thomas!).
+
+Now the build dies because libXext.la is missing[1] :o(  What's the solution for that?
+
+[1] - <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4492#c2">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4492#c2</A>
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+<PRE>David Walser wrote:
+&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 17:23, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 17:08, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 16:29, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 16:23, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 15:55, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Funda Wang wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ? 2012-2-12 ??12:08?&quot;David Walser&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt;???
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> D Morgan asked us to say if removal of .la files broke anything.  It
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> breaks xpdf, and I don't know if it's fixable.  xpdf needs libXt.la to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> build libxpdf.la, and the xpdf build is heavily dependent on libxpdf.la.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>  See xpdf-3.03-shared.diff for example.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The problem is xpdf depends on lesstif, it will bring libXt.la. But lesstif
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> cannot be built now for some reasons.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> OK, I see that Funda synced lesstif with Mandriva and fixed the package.  It now builds locally and I believe it is OK.  On the build 
+</I>&gt;<i> system,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> it always fails with gcc segfaulting, and it fails at a different place every time.  I have seen this with other packages where 
+</I>&gt;<i> eventually it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> will work, and it seems to be a resources issue that causes it.  It appears not enough resources (probably RAM) are allocated to the 
+</I>&gt;<i> VM (I'm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> assuming it's a VM) on the build system to build this package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It's not a vm and it has either 8GB of ram (ecosse) or 12GB (jonund)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +4GB swap...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Looking at the log, this is just a normal internal compiler error from gcc:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> XmString.c: In function 'XmStringGetNextTriple':
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> XmString.c:5484:9: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> size [-Wpointer-to-int-cast]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> XmString.c: In function 'XmStringComponentCreate':
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> XmString.c:5520:33: warning: cast from pointer to integer of different
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> size [-Wpointer-to-int-cast]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> {standard input}: Assembler messages:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> {standard input}: Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> {standard input}:1840: Error: number of operands mismatch for `test'
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> {standard input}: Error: open CFI at the end of file; missing
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> .cfi_endproc directive
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gcc: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault (program cc1)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please submit a full bug report,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with preprocessed source if appropriate.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> See &lt;<A HREF="http://bugs.mageia.org/">http://bugs.mageia.org/</A>&gt; for instructions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> make[2]: *** [XmString.lo] Error 1
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It was reported at least on <A HREF="https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/27357">https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/27357</A> but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I din't find upstream (gcc) report. I'll try to have a look.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Crash happens when you build <A HREF="http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/tmp/XmStringE.c">http://fasmz.org/~pterjan/tmp/XmStringE.c</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with -O1 or -O2, I'll test on other arch/versions and report bug
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> upstream
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52310">http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=52310</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Duplicate of <A HREF="http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=51077">http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=51077</A> which
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> contains a patch for gcc
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> tmb added the patch to gcc to fix that issue (thanks Thomas!).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Now the build dies because libXext.la is missing[1] :o(  What's the solution for that?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> [1] - <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4492#c2">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4492#c2</A>
+</I>
+Funda Wang fixed lesstif (thanks Funda!).  Now xpdf still won't build...
+
+libxpdf.la -L../fofi -lfofi -L../goo -lGoo -L../splash -lsplash Annot.o Array.o BuiltinFont.o BuiltinFontTables.o Catalog.o 
+CharCodeToUnicode.o CMap.o CoreOutputDev.o Decrypt.o Dict.o Error.o FontEncodingTables.o Function.o Gfx.o GfxFont.o GfxState.o GlobalParams.o 
+JArithmeticDecoder.o JBIG2Stream.o JPXStream.o Lexer.o Link.o NameToCharCode.o Object.o OptionalContent.o Outline.o OutputDev.o Page.o 
+Parser.o PDFCore.o PDFDoc.o PDFDocEncoding.o PreScanOutputDev.o PSOutputDev.o PSTokenizer.o SecurityHandler.o SplashOutputDev.o Stream.o 
+TextOutputDev.o UnicodeMap.o UnicodeTypeTable.o XPDFApp.o XPDFCore.o XPDFTree.o XPDFViewer.o XpdfPluginAPI.o XRef.o xpdf.o  -lXm -lXt -lXp -
+lXext -lXpm  -lSM -lICE  -L/usr/lib -lX11 -lXft -lXrender -lfontconfig -lz 
+
+*** Warning: Linking the shared library libxpdf.la against the non-libtool
+*** objects  Annot.o Array.o BuiltinFont.o BuiltinFontTables.o Catalog.o CharCodeToUnicode.o CMap.o CoreOutputDev.o Decrypt.o Dict.o Error.o 
+FontEncodingTables.o Function.o Gfx.o GfxFont.o GfxState.o GlobalParams.o JArithmeticDecoder.o JBIG2Stream.o JPXStream.o Lexer.o Link.o 
+NameToCharCode.o Object.o OptionalContent.o Outline.o OutputDev.o Page.o Parser.o PDFCore.o PDFDoc.o PDFDocEncoding.o PreScanOutputDev.o 
+PSOutputDev.o PSTokenizer.o SecurityHandler.o SplashOutputDev.o Stream.o TextOutputDev.o UnicodeMap.o UnicodeTypeTable.o XPDFApp.o XPDFCore.o 
+XPDFTree.o XPDFViewer.o XpdfPluginAPI.o XRef.o xpdf.o is not portable!
+libtool: link: g++  -fPIC -DPIC -shared    Annot.o Array.o BuiltinFont.o BuiltinFontTables.o Catalog.o CharCodeToUnicode.o CMap.o 
+CoreOutputDev.o Decrypt.o Dict.o Error.o FontEncodingTables.o Function.o Gfx.o GfxFont.o GfxState.o GlobalParams.o JArithmeticDecoder.o 
+JBIG2Stream.o JPXStream.o Lexer.o Link.o NameToCharCode.o Object.o OptionalContent.o Outline.o OutputDev.o Page.o Parser.o PDFCore.o PDFDoc.o 
+PDFDocEncoding.o PreScanOutputDev.o PSOutputDev.o PSTokenizer.o SecurityHandler.o SplashOutputDev.o Stream.o TextOutputDev.o UnicodeMap.o 
+UnicodeTypeTable.o XPDFApp.o XPDFCore.o XPDFTree.o XPDFViewer.o XpdfPluginAPI.o XRef.o xpdf.o   -O2 -march=i586 -mtune=generic -Wl,--as-
+needed -Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,-z -Wl,relro -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--build-id -Wl,--enable-new-dtags    -L../fofi -lfofi -L../goo -lGoo -L../splash -
+lsplash -lXm -lXt -lXp -lXext -lXpm -lSM -lICE -L/usr/lib -lX11 -lXft -lXrender -lfontconfig -lz -lstdc++ -lm -lc -lgcc_s  -Wl,-soname -
+Wl,libxpdf.so.0 -o .libs/libxpdf.so.0.0.0
+g++: error: Annot.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: Array.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: BuiltinFont.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: BuiltinFontTables.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: Catalog.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: CharCodeToUnicode.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: CMap.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: CoreOutputDev.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: Decrypt.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: Dict.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: Error.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: FontEncodingTables.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: Function.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: Gfx.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: GfxFont.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: GfxState.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: GlobalParams.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: JArithmeticDecoder.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: JBIG2Stream.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: JPXStream.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: Lexer.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: Link.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: NameToCharCode.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: Object.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: OptionalContent.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: Outline.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: OutputDev.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: Page.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: Parser.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: PDFCore.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: PDFDoc.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: PDFDocEncoding.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: PreScanOutputDev.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: PSOutputDev.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: PSTokenizer.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: SecurityHandler.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: SplashOutputDev.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: Stream.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: TextOutputDev.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: UnicodeMap.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: UnicodeTypeTable.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: XPDFApp.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: XPDFCore.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: XPDFTree.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: XPDFViewer.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: XpdfPluginAPI.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: XRef.o: No such file or directory
+g++: error: xpdf.o: No such file or directory
+make[1]: *** [libxpdf.la] Error 1
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+<PRE>On 19.02.2012 23:52, Funda Wang wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#22312; 2012-2-20 &#19978;&#21320;6:42&#65292;&quot;Kamil Rytarowski&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt;&gt; &#20889;&#36947;&#65306;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; What is the right implementation of an installation of *.desktop 
+</I>&gt;<i> files? I saw every possible way of adding (build)require on 
+</I>&gt;<i> desktop-file-utils. Is it necessary? What is the best way to implement 
+</I>&gt;<i> it (of course in case of a mandatory requirement).
+</I>&gt;<i> Most software will install .desktop files themselves.  In case we need 
+</I>&gt;<i> to modify the menu categories, we often use desktop-file-install.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is allowed to use macros from jpackage-utils (the file name 
+</I>&gt;<i> is/etc/rpm/macros.jpackage ) in a simple, normal non-java application? 
+</I>&gt;<i> If yes, then is mandatory to add a buildrequirement of this package?
+</I>&gt;<i> I think yes and yes. There are some packages BR kde4-macros, but they 
+</I>&gt;<i> have no relation with KDE4.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Thank you Funda!
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+&gt;<i> Missing a virtual method loos like something needs a rebuild, but what ?
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+I failed to see the connection
+Install the needed debug packages and got a proper trace anyway...
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+    <B>Funda Wang</B> 
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+<PRE>I guess it is another problem, which has no relationship with lesstif or gcc.
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+2012/2/20 David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> libxpdf.la -L../fofi -lfofi -L../goo -lGoo -L../splash -lsplash Annot.o Array.o BuiltinFont.o BuiltinFontTables.o Catalog.o
+</I>&gt;<i> CharCodeToUnicode.o CMap.o CoreOutputDev.o Decrypt.o Dict.o Error.o FontEncodingTables.o Function.o Gfx.o GfxFont.o GfxState.o GlobalParams.o
+</I>&gt;<i> JArithmeticDecoder.o JBIG2Stream.o JPXStream.o Lexer.o Link.o NameToCharCode.o Object.o OptionalContent.o Outline.o OutputDev.o Page.o
+</I>&gt;<i> Parser.o PDFCore.o PDFDoc.o PDFDocEncoding.o PreScanOutputDev.o PSOutputDev.o PSTokenizer.o SecurityHandler.o SplashOutputDev.o Stream.o
+</I>&gt;<i> TextOutputDev.o UnicodeMap.o UnicodeTypeTable.o XPDFApp.o XPDFCore.o XPDFTree.o XPDFViewer.o XpdfPluginAPI.o XRef.o xpdf.o &#160;-lXm -lXt -lXp -
+</I>&gt;<i> lXext -lXpm &#160;-lSM -lICE &#160;-L/usr/lib -lX11 -lXft -lXrender -lfontconfig -lz
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> *** Warning: Linking the shared library libxpdf.la against the non-libtool
+</I>&gt;<i> *** objects &#160;Annot.o Array.o BuiltinFont.o BuiltinFontTables.o Catalog.o CharCodeToUnicode.o CMap.o CoreOutputDev.o Decrypt.o Dict.o Error.o
+</I>&gt;<i> FontEncodingTables.o Function.o Gfx.o GfxFont.o GfxState.o GlobalParams.o JArithmeticDecoder.o JBIG2Stream.o JPXStream.o Lexer.o Link.o
+</I>&gt;<i> NameToCharCode.o Object.o OptionalContent.o Outline.o OutputDev.o Page.o Parser.o PDFCore.o PDFDoc.o PDFDocEncoding.o PreScanOutputDev.o
+</I>&gt;<i> PSOutputDev.o PSTokenizer.o SecurityHandler.o SplashOutputDev.o Stream.o TextOutputDev.o UnicodeMap.o UnicodeTypeTable.o XPDFApp.o XPDFCore.o
+</I>&gt;<i> XPDFTree.o XPDFViewer.o XpdfPluginAPI.o XRef.o xpdf.o is not portable!
+</I>&gt;<i> libtool: link: g++ &#160;-fPIC -DPIC -shared &#160; &#160;Annot.o Array.o BuiltinFont.o BuiltinFontTables.o Catalog.o CharCodeToUnicode.o CMap.o
+</I>&gt;<i> CoreOutputDev.o Decrypt.o Dict.o Error.o FontEncodingTables.o Function.o Gfx.o GfxFont.o GfxState.o GlobalParams.o JArithmeticDecoder.o
+</I>&gt;<i> JBIG2Stream.o JPXStream.o Lexer.o Link.o NameToCharCode.o Object.o OptionalContent.o Outline.o OutputDev.o Page.o Parser.o PDFCore.o PDFDoc.o
+</I>&gt;<i> PDFDocEncoding.o PreScanOutputDev.o PSOutputDev.o PSTokenizer.o SecurityHandler.o SplashOutputDev.o Stream.o TextOutputDev.o UnicodeMap.o
+</I>&gt;<i> UnicodeTypeTable.o XPDFApp.o XPDFCore.o XPDFTree.o XPDFViewer.o XpdfPluginAPI.o XRef.o xpdf.o &#160; -O2 -march=i586 -mtune=generic -Wl,--as-
+</I>&gt;<i> needed -Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,-z -Wl,relro -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--build-id -Wl,--enable-new-dtags &#160; &#160;-L../fofi -lfofi -L../goo -lGoo -L../splash -
+</I>&gt;<i> lsplash -lXm -lXt -lXp -lXext -lXpm -lSM -lICE -L/usr/lib -lX11 -lXft -lXrender -lfontconfig -lz -lstdc++ -lm -lc -lgcc_s &#160;-Wl,-soname -
+</I>&gt;<i> Wl,libxpdf.so.0 -o .libs/libxpdf.so.0.0.0
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: Annot.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: Array.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: BuiltinFont.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: BuiltinFontTables.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: Catalog.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: CharCodeToUnicode.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: CMap.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: CoreOutputDev.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: Decrypt.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: Dict.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: Error.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: FontEncodingTables.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: Function.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: Gfx.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: GfxFont.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: GfxState.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: GlobalParams.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: JArithmeticDecoder.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: JBIG2Stream.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: JPXStream.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: Lexer.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: Link.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: NameToCharCode.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: Object.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: OptionalContent.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: Outline.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: OutputDev.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: Page.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: Parser.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: PDFCore.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: PDFDoc.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: PDFDocEncoding.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: PreScanOutputDev.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: PSOutputDev.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: PSTokenizer.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: SecurityHandler.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: SplashOutputDev.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: Stream.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: TextOutputDev.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: UnicodeMap.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: UnicodeTypeTable.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: XPDFApp.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: XPDFCore.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: XPDFTree.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: XPDFViewer.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: XpdfPluginAPI.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: XRef.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> g++: error: xpdf.o: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> make[1]: *** [libxpdf.la] Error 1
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+    <B>Pa&#239;ou</B> 
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+<PRE>Anne Nicolas launched a discussion about display manager.
+&gt;<i>From my part, I try to eliminate good hundred of unwanted packages 
+</I>during a reduced installation (personal desk, without any group of packages, 
+but with X server and with urpmi).
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+Further to Thierry Vignaud's indications and Michael Scherer's remarks,
+during the discussion on dm, I proceeded to diverse test installations.
+Which are the consequences on the other types of installation (KDE, Gnome)
+by the proposed modifications ?
+It taken several days, but the local mirror being of use to the installations 
+remained unchanged.
+
+Why xguest?
+-----------
+Can be to have at least an installed account?
+Maybe to be able to lend his computer?
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+Is it necessary to keep xguest?
+-------------------------------
+I would say that yes, but on the condition of not creating unwanted effects.
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+Current consequences
+----------------------
+xguest requiresdm (display manager).
+xdm is installed by means of the file rpmsrate, item CAT_X.
+But xdm do not possess the property dm. Another manager must also be installed.
+With the office Gnome, it is gdm.
+For a reason which I did not find, in ALL OTHER cases, it is kdm, 
+with all the dependences.
+
+How to remedy it?
+--------------------
+I investigated several possibilities.
+
+- Favor a light dm, such as SLiM or lxdm (or other?), having the property dm
+  For this to add a line &quot;slim&quot; or &quot;lxdm&quot; in the file prefer.vendor.list
+- Give up xguest
+  For this delete xguest of the item CAT_X in rpmsrate
+- To give the property dm to the package xdm. xdm is systematically installed.
+
+Consequences?
+--------------
+The multiple tests which I made show that the three solutions are possible.
+To give the property dm to the package xdm would have my preference 
+(xdm being systematically installed).
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+&gt;<i> Is it necessary to keep xguest?
+</I>&gt;<i> -------------------------------
+</I>&gt;<i> I would say that yes, but on the condition of not creating unwanted effects.
+</I>No. Configuring a user computer should be left to end-user, not to 
+packagers providing 'just click here' blackbox solutions. Documenting 
+how to achieve the same result manually, and outlining consequences, 
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Le 20/02/2012 11:31, Pa&#239;ou a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is it necessary to keep xguest?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -------------------------------
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would say that yes, but on the condition of not creating unwanted 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> effects.
+</I>&gt;<i> No. Configuring a user computer should be left to end-user, not to 
+</I>&gt;<i> packagers providing 'just click here' blackbox solutions. Documenting 
+</I>&gt;<i> how to achieve the same result manually, and outlining consequences, 
+</I>&gt;<i> would be a far better solution toward user awareness.
+</I>A guest account is nowadays as usefull as having a soundcard enabled... 
+do you really want to leave that to end user, without at least a 
+defaulted checkbox in the installer?
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+&gt;<i> Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I don't see the reason for this answer.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Michael is just trying to make sure, we don't have a unmaintained major DE.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Now, some maybe a bit harsh words on the developer mailing list - this 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is no user support list or forum or whatever - are far better, then 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; having something like xfce unmaintained.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; After all, what makes users run away: some not all that courteous mails 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on the -dev ml, whose existence they may or may not be aware of or a 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; perhaps buggy, not updated, unmaintained desktop?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And if we keep a whole DE unmaintained in the repos, what does that say 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; about overall package quality?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Oliver
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> OK, you are right. Sorry.
+</I>&gt;<i> I wish ardently that Xfce remains maintained.
+</I>
+I guess lots of people do. But history shown this is not enough. 
+
+Let's suppose we keep xfce, despites being unmaintained. When people
+report bugs, they will have no or few answers. They will not like and
+complain. Maybe more than with a maintainer, maybe they will not care.
+
+When there will be bugs, no one will step to fix them. So people who try
+this will either say &quot;this DE is buggy&quot;, or &quot;this distribution is
+buggy&quot;. 
+Then, likely sooner or later, someone will say &quot;the DE work fine on
+AnotherDistribution&quot;, so people will think &quot;the distribution is buggy&quot;
+and switch to AnotherDistribution.
+
+While the outcome look the same ( ie, people leaving because there is no
+package, or leaving because it is not working ), in one case, they will
+switch by thinking &quot;the distribution is not having what I want, but the
+rest was working&quot; and will not badmouth us. In the other case, they will
+think &quot;the distribution is buggy&quot;, and complain.
+
+So how ending like this would help us in the long run ? 
+
+Maybe that's just me, but each time I mentioned &quot;I am doing package for
+Mandriva&quot; in the past 5 years, people kept explaining me that they faced
+some bug dating back to mandrake 7.0 time, and that they switched
+distributions and how they now live in a world filled with pink pony
+giving them candy, yadayadayada. Besides being demotivating for me
+( cause my time travel machine is still not working ), this was hurting
+the promotion of Mandriva.
+ 
+Did someone ever heard &quot;fedora is bad because they didn't ship Xfce at
+the start&quot;. I never did, and I think everybody forgot it. I could surely
+give several example on all distribution of missing packages and people
+forgetting once the issue is fixed.
+
+So people are likely quicker to forget lack of packages than lack of
+quality.
+
+And if we do not have the ressources to achieve quality packages, then
+it is much more saner for us to choose the least damaging solution in
+the long term, ie removing packages.
+
+There was enough complains about Mandriva shipping buggy softwares, and
+if as a community, we cannot increase work done to fix this ( we tried,
+we even put 2 developers together to see if they mate and produce a 3rd
+one to help us ), we do not have much others choice.
+
+&gt;<i> For my part I participate in it as tester,
+</I>&gt;<i> where from my a little bit virulent reaction.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This place is also, I think, the only place where it is possible
+</I>&gt;<i> to have a dialogue with developers.
+</I>&gt;<i>  (except bugzilla, but bugzilla is more specific)
+</I>
+There is lots of place to have a dialogue, be it on irc, in real life
+and so on. And if some of us ( and me the first ) do not go on forums on
+a frequent basis, there is various reasons that were already explained
+in the past
+( <A HREF="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mandrake.cooker.devel/305365">http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mandrake.cooker.devel/305365</A> ),
+so I can only direct you to my previous answers as it is likely still
+valid ( at least for me ).
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+Michael Scherer
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+&gt;<i> When trying to install libavformat53-0.10-1.mga2.i586.rpm it says:
+</I>&gt;<i> libavfilter.so.2 is needed by libavformat53-0.10-1.mga2.i586
+</I>&gt;<i> when I try to install libavfilter it says:
+</I>&gt;<i> libavformat.so.53 is needed by libavfilter2-0.10-1.mga2.i586
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I know how to nodep and force and what not and only mention this
+</I>&gt;<i> becuase I think that it may require attention.
+</I>
+Don't reply to existing emails please; me + probably others thread
+things together, this just appears in same list as the existing
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+Suggest to also file a bug.
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+<PRE>2012/2/20 Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 19 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 12:19 +0000, Pa&#239;ou a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oliver Burger &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">oliver.bgr at ...</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I don't see the reason for this answer.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Michael is just trying to make sure, we don't have a unmaintained major DE.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Now, some maybe a bit harsh words on the developer mailing list - this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; is no user support list or forum or whatever - are far better, then
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; having something like xfce unmaintained.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; After all, what makes users run away: some not all that courteous mails
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; on the -dev ml, whose existence they may or may not be aware of or a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; perhaps buggy, not updated, unmaintained desktop?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; And if we keep a whole DE unmaintained in the repos, what does that say
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; about overall package quality?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Oliver
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OK, you are right. Sorry.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I wish ardently that Xfce remains maintained.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess lots of people do. But history shown this is not enough.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Let's suppose we keep xfce, despites being unmaintained. When people
+</I>&gt;<i> report bugs, they will have no or few answers. They will not like and
+</I>&gt;<i> complain. Maybe more than with a maintainer, maybe they will not care.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> When there will be bugs, no one will step to fix them. So people who try
+</I>&gt;<i> this will either say &quot;this DE is buggy&quot;, or &quot;this distribution is
+</I>&gt;<i> buggy&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i> Then, likely sooner or later, someone will say &quot;the DE work fine on
+</I>&gt;<i> AnotherDistribution&quot;, so people will think &quot;the distribution is buggy&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> and switch to AnotherDistribution.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While the outcome look the same ( ie, people leaving because there is no
+</I>&gt;<i> package, or leaving because it is not working ), in one case, they will
+</I>&gt;<i> switch by thinking &quot;the distribution is not having what I want, but the
+</I>&gt;<i> rest was working&quot; and will not badmouth us. In the other case, they will
+</I>&gt;<i> think &quot;the distribution is buggy&quot;, and complain.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So how ending like this would help us in the long run ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe that's just me, but each time I mentioned &quot;I am doing package for
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva&quot; in the past 5 years, people kept explaining me that they faced
+</I>&gt;<i> some bug dating back to mandrake 7.0 time, and that they switched
+</I>&gt;<i> distributions and how they now live in a world filled with pink pony
+</I>&gt;<i> giving them candy, yadayadayada. Besides being demotivating for me
+</I>&gt;<i> ( cause my time travel machine is still not working ), this was hurting
+</I>&gt;<i> the promotion of Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Did someone ever heard &quot;fedora is bad because they didn't ship Xfce at
+</I>&gt;<i> the start&quot;. I never did, and I think everybody forgot it. I could surely
+</I>&gt;<i> give several example on all distribution of missing packages and people
+</I>&gt;<i> forgetting once the issue is fixed.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So people are likely quicker to forget lack of packages than lack of
+</I>&gt;<i> quality.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And if we do not have the ressources to achieve quality packages, then
+</I>&gt;<i> it is much more saner for us to choose the least damaging solution in
+</I>&gt;<i> the long term, ie removing packages.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There was enough complains about Mandriva shipping buggy softwares, and
+</I>&gt;<i> if as a community, we cannot increase work done to fix this ( we tried,
+</I>&gt;<i> we even put 2 developers together to see if they mate and produce a 3rd
+</I>&gt;<i> one to help us ), we do not have much others choice.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> For my part I participate in it as tester,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> where from my a little bit virulent reaction.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This place is also, I think, the only place where it is possible
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to have a dialogue with developers.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;(except bugzilla, but bugzilla is more specific)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is lots of place to have a dialogue, be it on irc, in real life
+</I>&gt;<i> and so on. And if some of us ( and me the first ) do not go on forums on
+</I>&gt;<i> a frequent basis, there is various reasons that were already explained
+</I>&gt;<i> in the past
+</I>&gt;<i> ( <A HREF="http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mandrake.cooker.devel/305365">http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.mandrake.cooker.devel/305365</A> ),
+</I>&gt;<i> so I can only direct you to my previous answers as it is likely still
+</I>&gt;<i> valid ( at least for me ).
+</I>
+&gt;<i>From time to time we do have different opinions especially wrt user's
+</I>POV vs. devel's POV, but this time I agree in full to all points you
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I guess it is another problem, which has no relationship with lesstif or gcc.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> a fixed xpdf is on the BS now
+</I>
+Thank you D Morgan, Funda Wang, and everyone else that helped along the way.  Sometimes it takes a community to raise a package :o)
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+<PRE>Florian Hubold wrote:
+&gt;<i> Am 19.02.2012 15:59, schrieb David Walser:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I was looking at that package, which is a collection of drivers for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> some printers, not updated for years
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It is one of the two packages requiring automake1.4, because of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> included	drv_z42
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Looking on <A HREF="http://www.openprinting.org/driver/drv_z42/">http://www.openprinting.org/driver/drv_z42/</A> original
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> website no longer exist, and even if openprinting now hosts it they
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> say &quot;This driver is obsolete. Recommended replacement driver:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gutenprint&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Should we drop it?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Does anyone has enough time to see if other drivers in this package
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> may still be needed?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And actually, if we install this package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also from openprinting, there are security issues fixed in the newest foomatic-filters (needs updated in Mageia 1 and Cauldron, see Bug 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3979).  They also have a new CUPS filters set that probably needs to be packaged.  Upstream notes on it:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Apple decided to not continue to develop and maintain the CUPS filters and backends which are not used by Mac OS X and moved them to 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> OpenPrinting. They also did not accept the new filters for the PDF-based printing workflow as they are also not used by Mac OS X.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> All these filters we continue to maintain now in one package, the OpenPrinting CUPS Filters and announce here the first stable release of 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this package, versionn 1.0.1.&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As you mentioned it, there are far bigger changes coming than just
+</I>&gt;<i> adding a new cups filter package (which is still in beta state AFAIK)
+</I>&gt;<i> as that is just smaller fallout from changes explained in below links.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.printing.fsg/2020">http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.printing.fsg/2020</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://cyberelk.net/tim/2012/02/06/cups-1-6-changes-ahead/">http://cyberelk.net/tim/2012/02/06/cups-1-6-changes-ahead/</A>
+</I>
+Yikes, thanks for the links Florian.  The future removal of browsing and requirement of avahi is really unfortunate.
+
+So this work will be needed for when we move to CUPS 1.6, which will be after Mageia 2.  Here's a good page that details the work we as a 
+distro will need to do:
+<A HREF="http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/pdf_as_standard_print_job_format">http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/pdf_as_standard_print_job_format</A>
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+&gt;<i> Le samedi 18 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 10:33 +0100, Olivier Thauvin a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> * Michael Scherer (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le vendredi 17 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 19:18 +0100, Claire Revillet a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As a second point : there is still no xfce-* maintainer and as many
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> people are using it on cauldron and as we have bug on &quot;Could we have
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> xfce directly from dvd/dual/live installation please&quot; : it will be great
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that someone grab those packages. The candidat will have all our
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gratitude :) (and bug report :p )
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If there is so much users, why is there no volunteer for taking just one
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> package ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Being user does not mean having knowledge to maintain it.
+</I>&gt;<i> I know at least 2 people in the packagers group who use xfce. So if they
+</I>&gt;<i> have no knowledge for maintaining rpms ( and a dm doesn't require more
+</I>&gt;<i> knowledge than anything else ), that would be shocking.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway, if a major DE is unmaintained, maybe we should start to think
+</I>&gt;<i> removing it until there is enough volunteer, since we do not want to
+</I>&gt;<i> have a popular application to be crappy due to lack of maintainer. This
+</I>&gt;<i> would be lying to user, and giving them false expectations.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Here are the xfce bugs we have (fast search for xfce or xfce4 in RPM 
+Package field, without enhancement requests), the oldest one dates from 
+July 18th:
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:59:02AM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+&gt;<i> No. Configuring a user computer should be left to end-user, not to
+</I>&gt;<i> packagers providing 'just click here' blackbox solutions.
+</I>&gt;<i> Documenting how to achieve the same result manually, and outlining
+</I>&gt;<i> consequences, would be a far better solution toward user awareness.
+</I>
+I just want to get something done, I don't want to have to care about
+the details (not interested). E.g., to follow network time, I'd like a
+&quot;follow network time&quot; on/off checkbox instead of knowing to install
+ntpd, configuring it, ensuring it starts up when needed, follows IP
+address changes, etc.
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+But up to KDE/GNOME/etc to provide something like that IMO.
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+Regards,
+Olav
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 20/02/2012 15:45, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:59:02AM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No. Configuring a user computer should be left to end-user, not to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packagers providing 'just click here' blackbox solutions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Documenting how to achieve the same result manually, and outlining
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> consequences, would be a far better solution toward user awareness.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just want to get something done, I don't want to have to care about
+</I>&gt;<i> the details (not interested). E.g., to follow network time, I'd like a
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;follow network time&quot; on/off checkbox instead of knowing to install
+</I>&gt;<i> ntpd, configuring it, ensuring it starts up when needed, follows IP
+</I>&gt;<i> address changes, etc.
+</I>In order to follow time change, you need a dedicated program, so it 
+makes sense to install a package, and to configure it. You can it 
+manually, with any kind of fancy configuration wizard, no problem.
+
+In order to have a 'guest user', which usually means a passwordless 
+user, you don't need any additional software, you just need to configure 
+your computer. Hence my point than using a package to automatically 
+performing those configuration changes doesn't make sense, and than 
+either a plain documentation, or another fancy configuration wizard 
+would work as well.
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+-- 
+BOFH excuse #355:
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+Boredom in the Kernel.
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+    <B>Liam R E Quin</B> 
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+<PRE>On Mon, 2012-02-20 at 11:59 +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
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+&gt;<i> No. Configuring a user computer should be left to end-user, not to 
+</I>&gt;<i> packagers providing 'just click here' blackbox solutions.
+</I>One of the reaons I switched, years ago, away from Debian to Mandrake
+Linux, was exactly this: debian packages tended not to work out of the
+box, because they said it was the responsibility of the user to
+configure them.  On Mandrake Linux, the corresponding packages had a
+sensible, working, default configuration you could change if you needed
+to, and sometimes even GUI tools that worked with the same text-based
+conf files, so you could mix GUI and text styles.  On Red Hat Linux at
+the time if you used the GUI tools they overwrote text configuration
+files without reading them first, so just starting the tool was often
+enough to lose manual changes.
+
+Software should &quot;just work&quot; wherever possible.
+
+Where not possible, it's the responsibility of the software provider to
+make it easy to configure in a safe and secure way without the user
+undergoing emotional trauma.
+
+Don't expect to &quot;educate&quot; users by forcing them to learn irritating and
+tedious trivia that stand between them and their job without being part
+of what they actually want to learn.
+
+Of course, this should be balanced by providing paths for people who do
+want to learn.
+
+When a book is translated, the original language, title and author must
+always be given, so that if the reader wishes to learn Urdu (say) and
+read the original, they can; however, most people want to read books in
+languages in which they are already fluent.
+
+Best,
+
+Liam
+
+-- 
+Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, <A HREF="http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/">http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/</A>
+Pictures from old books: <A HREF="http://fromoldbooks.org/">http://fromoldbooks.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> Le 20/02/2012 15:45, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 11:59:02AM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> No. Configuring a user computer should be left to end-user, not to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packagers providing 'just click here' blackbox solutions.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Documenting how to achieve the same result manually, and outlining
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> consequences, would be a far better solution toward user awareness.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I just want to get something done, I don't want to have to care about
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the details (not interested). E.g., to follow network time, I'd like a
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;follow network time&quot; on/off checkbox instead of knowing to install
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ntpd, configuring it, ensuring it starts up when needed, follows IP
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> address changes, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In order to follow time change, you need a dedicated program, so it makes
+</I>&gt;<i> sense to install a package, and to configure it. You can it manually, with
+</I>&gt;<i> any kind of fancy configuration wizard, no problem.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In order to have a 'guest user', which usually means a passwordless user,
+</I>&gt;<i> you don't need any additional software, you just need to configure your
+</I>&gt;<i> computer. Hence my point than using a package to automatically performing
+</I>&gt;<i> those configuration changes doesn't make sense, and than either a plain
+</I>&gt;<i> documentation, or another fancy configuration wizard would work as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+One of the strong points of Mandrake/Mandriva which was advertized
+everywhere was that a novice user was able to install the system
+without any &quot;expert's&quot; help while at the same time it was ready to be
+used by an expert with all the tinkering and customization an expert
+would love to spend his time on. Mageia 1 met this level.
+
+I would be very disappointed (to say the least) if this &quot;two lane
+road&quot; would be narrowed down, whether it would be towards a fast lane
+or a side road.
+
+xguest is a must have for many (example: everybody who takes his
+machine to events or to demo Mageia anywhere). Adding it after
+installation is not as easy as adding a regular user - xguest has
+special features (like only temporary saving of changes/new
+documents). So having a rpm which does that for you is one of the
+&quot;nice to have&quot; things which makes the distribution userfriendly.
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+&gt;<i> In order to have a 'guest user', which usually means a passwordless
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+</I>&gt;<i> configure your computer. Hence my point than using a package to
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically performing those configuration changes doesn't make
+</I>&gt;<i> sense, and than either a plain documentation, or another fancy
+</I>&gt;<i> configuration wizard would work as well.
+</I>
+I agree that you don't want a package. But no problem with a checkbox
+somewhere which does the right thing (configuring, etc). I think the
+&quot;System Settings&quot; in GNOME allows you to easily setup a new account, so
+IMO, functionality is not needed..
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+[...].
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+</I>&gt;<i> I agree that you don't want a package. But no problem with a checkbox
+</I>&gt;<i> somewhere which does the right thing (configuring, etc). I think the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;System Settings&quot; in GNOME allows you to easily setup a new account, so
+</I>&gt;<i> IMO, functionality is not needed..
+</I>In fact xguest is (well was) more thant a simply new account and has
+(had) at least 2 nice functionnalities:
+- the shell is restricted
+- the user home was on tmpfs clean on every log out of xguest user.
+
+The last functionnality was especially useful for debugging purpose
+because it was easy to test the &#171; default mageia&#187; setup.
+Somehow this functionnality was broken during the mga2 developement so
+now xguest account is just a restricted shell.
+
+(Yeah i failed to open a proper bug report when i noticed it &amp; simply
+mentionned it on irc :/)
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+-- 
+Balcaen John
+Jabber-id: <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mikala at jabber.littleboboy.net</A>
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 04:01:46PM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In order to have a 'guest user', which usually means a passwordless
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> user, you don't need any additional software, you just need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> configure your computer. Hence my point than using a package to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> automatically performing those configuration changes doesn't make
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sense, and than either a plain documentation, or another fancy
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> configuration wizard would work as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree that you don't want a package. But no problem with a checkbox
+</I>&gt;<i> somewhere which does the right thing (configuring, etc). I think the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;System Settings&quot; in GNOME allows you to easily setup a new account, so
+</I>&gt;<i> IMO, functionality is not needed..
+</I>
+I already mentioned: adding a regular user is no big deal, be it with
+Gnome or via userdrake or on CLI. But xguest is a special user with
+extended attributes (like only temporarily saving of changes xguest
+makes during a session). How would you configure this?
+
+BTW: I often expressed my annoyance to see system wide settings being
+handled in a DE dependent tool (like this user account setting in
+Gnome) while there is a tool with the same function/task in MCC. A DE
+&quot;System Settings&quot; should limit its tasks to DE related functions
+because
+ - DE &quot;System settings&quot; can conflict with MCC tools
+ - are only avaiable for that DE, not for all others while a system
+related tool should be available no matter which DE is used.
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+-- 
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+&gt;<i> 2012/2/20 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> [...].
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I agree that you don't want a package. But no problem with a checkbox
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> somewhere which does the right thing (configuring, etc). I think the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;System Settings&quot; in GNOME allows you to easily setup a new account, so
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IMO, functionality is not needed..
+</I>&gt;<i> In fact xguest is (well was) more thant a simply new account and has
+</I>&gt;<i> (had) at least 2 nice functionnalities:
+</I>&gt;<i> - the shell is restricted
+</I>&gt;<i> - the user home was on tmpfs clean on every log out of xguest user.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The last functionnality was especially useful for debugging purpose
+</I>&gt;<i> because it was easy to test the &#171; default mageia&#187; setup.
+</I>&gt;<i> Somehow this functionnality was broken during the mga2 developement so
+</I>&gt;<i> now xguest account is just a restricted shell.
+</I>
+Oh! I did not notice that (did not use it lately). This temporary user
+home was the top reason for having xguest at all! If this
+functionality is gone I don't see any reason for xguest.
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 04:01:46PM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> In order to have a 'guest user', which usually means a passwordless
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> user, you don't need any additional software, you just need to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> configure your computer. Hence my point than using a package to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> automatically performing those configuration changes doesn't make
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> sense, and than either a plain documentation, or another fancy
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> configuration wizard would work as well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I agree that you don't want a package. But no problem with a checkbox
+</I>&gt;<i> somewhere which does the right thing (configuring, etc). I think the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;System Settings&quot; in GNOME allows you to easily setup a new account, so
+</I>&gt;<i> IMO, functionality is not needed..
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Actually the &quot;nice&quot; feature with the xguest package is that it restricts 
+the user to /home/xguest and that it is on a tmpfs, so
+no crap gets left behind...
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+Thomas
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+&gt;<i> BTW: I often expressed my annoyance to see system wide settings being
+</I>&gt;<i> handled in a DE dependent tool (like this user account setting in
+</I>&gt;<i> Gnome) while there is a tool with the same function/task in MCC. A DE
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;System Settings&quot; should limit its tasks to DE related functions
+</I>&gt;<i> because
+</I>&gt;<i>  - DE &quot;System settings&quot; can conflict with MCC tools
+</I>&gt;<i>  - are only avaiable for that DE, not for all others while a system
+</I>&gt;<i> related tool should be available no matter which DE is used.
+</I>
+Offtopicish: I like discussing with you, your opinion is different,
+makes for a better discussion :)
+
+I have the GNOME view on the world: why have distribution specific tools
+if you can configure it from GNOME itself. That said, GNOME usually
+focusses on the very basic options.
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+Olav
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 05:03:29PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> BTW: I often expressed my annoyance to see system wide settings being
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> handled in a DE dependent tool (like this user account setting in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Gnome) while there is a tool with the same function/task in MCC. A DE
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;System Settings&quot; should limit its tasks to DE related functions
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> because
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- DE &quot;System settings&quot; can conflict with MCC tools
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160;- are only avaiable for that DE, not for all others while a system
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> related tool should be available no matter which DE is used.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Offtopicish: I like discussing with you, your opinion is different,
+</I>&gt;<i> makes for a better discussion :)
+</I>
+Yes, it's OT, that's why I wrote &quot;BTW&quot; :)
+
+&gt;<i> I have the GNOME view on the world: why have distribution specific tools
+</I>&gt;<i> if you can configure it from GNOME itself. That said, GNOME usually
+</I>&gt;<i> focusses on the very basic options.
+</I>
+Oh yes, We are GNOME, is there really a world besides?
+Most systems with this view of the world went down the drain :)
+
+Besides this more philosophical/historical view there is a technical
+background for my opinion, see my first point.
+
+But as I wrote: a side note in this discussion here.
+
+-- 
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+    <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> 
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+Saturday I was connected to internet using wifi when I decided to update
+my cauldron, so I typed &quot;urpmi --auto-update&quot;
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+During the update I got disconnected from wifi and I am unable to
+connect to any wifi anymore (wifi I am used: at home, my android phone,
+etc.).
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+Does anyone have notice the same things ?
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+Only two package able to make the difference were updated:
+networkmanager-0.9.3.990-1.mga2
+networkmanager-applet-0.9.3.990-1.mga2
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+Regards.
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+    <B>zezinho</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hello here,
+</I>&gt;<i> During the update I got disconnected from wifi and I am unable to
+</I>&gt;<i> connect to any wifi anymore (wifi I am used: at home, my android phone,
+</I>&gt;<i> etc.).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Does anyone have notice the same things ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+I had the same problem several times, because of dracut/systemd I think.
+My WiFi driver (dkms-broadcom) was removed while updating.
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+    <B>Olivier Thauvin</B> 
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+<PRE>* zezinho (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lists.jjorge at free.fr</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le lundi 20 f&#233;vrier 2012 21:01:07, Olivier Thauvin a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello here,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; During the update I got disconnected from wifi and I am unable to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; connect to any wifi anymore (wifi I am used: at home, my android phone,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; etc.).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Does anyone have notice the same things ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I had the same problem several times, because of dracut/systemd I think.
+</I>&gt;<i> My WiFi driver (dkms-broadcom) was removed while updating.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I wait for Beta1 to see if it gets stable....
+</I>
+In case the problem is still here after rebooting, reloading the module,
+killing wpa_supplicant, etc...
+
+My wifi card is a intel &quot;wlwifi&quot; card.
+
+Regards.
+
+-- 
+
+Olivier Thauvin
+CNRS  -  LATMOS
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 05:49:49PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2012/2/20 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have the GNOME view on the world: why have distribution specific tools
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; if you can configure it from GNOME itself. That said, GNOME usually
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; focusses on the very basic options.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Oh yes, We are GNOME, is there really a world besides?
+</I>&gt;<i> Most systems with this view of the world went down the drain :)
+</I>
+You mean like Microsoft Windows? :P
+
+&gt;<i> Besides this more philosophical/historical view there is a technical
+</I>&gt;<i> background for my opinion, see my first point.
+</I>
+Yes, and I (as usual) disagree. You see GNOME as a desktop environment,
+where it should not touch anything that might be part of the
+distribution. I see a distribution as something which may or may not
+provide a good GNOME experience. Whatever distribution I use (only use
+Mageia on my pc; on my laptop I switch every so often), I don't care how
+that distribution thinks I should keep my distro up to date. For that
+there is packagekit, etc. All these differences between distributions to
+do just basic things.. if you want to dive into details.. yeah, I love
+e.g &quot;urpmi&quot;, but stuff like ensuring the system is up to date, for that
+I enjoy packagekit, networkmanager, etc.
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+Olav
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+&gt;<i> On Thursday 16 February 2012 15:51, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can someone who can still boot (i.e. into older kernel) post a log of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the dracut command and the output from lsinitrd on the resulting image?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/dracut.log">http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/dracut.log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/lsinitrd-broken.txt">http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/lsinitrd-broken.txt</A>  (Broken kernel 3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2) 
+</I>
+Can you reliably reproduce this broken initrd (i.e. get the same results
+from your lsinitrd-broken.txt?
+
+I've had several reports about this (nothing in bin/ except two plymout
+binaries), but I've not been able to get anyone who can then
+subsequently recreate the problem running dracut manually...
+
+If you can, please do get in touch.
+
+Col
+
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>* Olivier Thauvin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> * zezinho (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lists.jjorge at free.fr</A>) wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le lundi 20 f&#233;vrier 2012 21:01:07, Olivier Thauvin a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Hello here,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; During the update I got disconnected from wifi and I am unable to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; connect to any wifi anymore (wifi I am used: at home, my android phone,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; etc.).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Does anyone have notice the same things ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I had the same problem several times, because of dracut/systemd I think.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; My WiFi driver (dkms-broadcom) was removed while updating.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I wait for Beta1 to see if it gets stable....
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> In case the problem is still here after rebooting, reloading the module,
+</I>&gt;<i> killing wpa_supplicant, etc...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> My wifi card is a intel &quot;wlwifi&quot; card.
+</I>
+Following:
+
+<A HREF="http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/gentoo-user-wireless-deauthenticating-by-local-choice-help-204640041.html">http://us.generation-nt.com/answer/gentoo-user-wireless-deauthenticating-by-local-choice-help-204640041.html</A>
+
+iwconfig wlan0 power off
+fixed the issue...
+
+Don't ask me how !
+
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> -- 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Olivier Thauvin
+</I>&gt;<i> CNRS  -  LATMOS
+</I>&gt;<i> &#9814; &#9816; &#9815; &#9813; &#9812; &#9815; &#9816; &#9814;
+</I>
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+Olivier Thauvin
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+&gt;<i> Can you reliably reproduce this broken initrd (i.e. get the same results
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+And just how do I do that?
+I got this problem simply by running &quot;urpmi --auto-update&quot; and rebooted.
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+    <I>Tue Feb 21 00:30:24 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>Hello!
+
+I can see in some packages that hicolor-icon-theme is required, 
+build-required, suggested or even Required(post). This is due to the 
+files in the hicolor directory.
+
+What is the right policy of using this package? Is it really needed?
+
+Some examples below:
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+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/freemind/current/SPECS/freemind.spec?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/freemind/current/SPECS/freemind.spec?view=markup</A>
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+Requires:    hicolor-icon-theme
+
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/autodownloader/current/SPECS/autodownloader.spec?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/autodownloader/current/SPECS/autodownloader.spec?view=markup</A>
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+Requires:       pygtk2.0-libglade hicolor-icon-theme
+
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/elementary-icon-theme/current/SPECS/elementary-icon-theme.spec?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/elementary-icon-theme/current/SPECS/elementary-icon-theme.spec?view=markup</A>
+
+Requires:        hicolor-icon-theme
+
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/kdebase4-runtime/current/SPECS/kdebase4-runtime.spec?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/kdebase4-runtime/current/SPECS/kdebase4-runtime.spec?view=markup</A>
+
+Suggests: hicolor-icon-theme
+
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/gns3/current/SPECS/gns3.spec?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/gns3/current/SPECS/gns3.spec?view=markup</A>
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+Requires:       hicolor-icon-theme
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+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/desktop-common-data/current/SPECS/desktop-common-data.spec?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/desktop-common-data/current/SPECS/desktop-common-data.spec?view=markup</A>
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+Requires(post):    hicolor-icon-theme
+Requires:    hicolor-icon-theme
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+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/moserial/current/SPECS/moserial.spec?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/moserial/current/SPECS/moserial.spec?view=markup</A>
+
+Requires:    hicolor-icon-theme
+
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/bolzplatz2006/current/SPECS/bolzplatz2006.spec?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/bolzplatz2006/current/SPECS/bolzplatz2006.spec?view=markup</A>
+
+Requires:      hicolor-icon-theme
+
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/fullrecall/current/SPECS/fullrecall.spec?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/fullrecall/current/SPECS/fullrecall.spec?view=markup</A>
+
+Requires:       hicolor-icon-theme
+
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/gnome-icon-theme/current/SPECS/gnome-icon-theme.spec?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/gnome-icon-theme/current/SPECS/gnome-icon-theme.spec?view=markup</A>
+
+BuildRequires:        hicolor-icon-theme
+Requires:        hicolor-icon-theme
+
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/latexila/current/SPECS/latexila.spec?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/latexila/current/SPECS/latexila.spec?view=markup</A>
+
+Requires:    hicolor-icon-theme
+
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/songwrite2/current/SPECS/songwrite2.spec?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/songwrite2/current/SPECS/songwrite2.spec?view=markup</A>
+
+Requires:       hicolor-icon-theme
+
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/x2goclient/current/SPECS/x2goclient.spec?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/x2goclient/current/SPECS/x2goclient.spec?view=markup</A>
+
+Requires:       hicolor-icon-theme
+
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/rapid-photo-downloader/current/SPECS/rapid-photo-downloader.spec?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/rapid-photo-downloader/current/SPECS/rapid-photo-downloader.spec?view=markup</A>
+
+Requires:    hicolor-icon-theme
+
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+I want to propose an idea for icewm packaging:
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+Currently, the icewm source package builds icewm-light, icewm,
+icewm-gnome. But the themes and all locale files are included in the
+icewm package. Even though icewm is already small, I still think it
+can be better organized.
+
+How about:
+- Pack all themes in icewm into one &quot;icewm-themes&quot; and pack all
+locales into one &quot;icewm-i18n&quot; package.
+OR
+- Pack each theme as a single package &quot;icewm-theme-%themename&quot;, and
+have a &quot;icewm-theme&quot; to install all themes.
+- Pack each locale as a single package &quot;icewm-l10n-%lang&quot;
+
+or perhaps any better idea...
+
+What do you think?
+
+Thanks,
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+You-Cheng Hsieh
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+    <B>John Bowden</B> 
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+<PRE>On Tuesday 21 Feb 2012 01:53:21 You-Cheng Hsieh wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I want to propose an idea for icewm packaging:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Currently, the icewm source package builds icewm-light, icewm,
+</I>&gt;<i> icewm-gnome. But the themes and all locale files are included in 
+</I>the
+&gt;<i> icewm package. Even though icewm is already small, I still think it
+</I>&gt;<i> can be better organized.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> How about:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Pack all themes in icewm into one &quot;icewm-themes&quot; and pack all
+</I>&gt;<i> locales into one &quot;icewm-i18n&quot; package.
+</I>&gt;<i> OR
+</I>&gt;<i> - Pack each theme as a single package &quot;icewm-
+</I>theme-%themename&quot;, and
+&gt;<i> have a &quot;icewm-theme&quot; to install all themes.
+</I>this would be better called task- icewm-themes
+&gt;<i> - Pack each locale as a single package &quot;icewm-l10n-%lang&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> or perhaps any better idea...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+-- 
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+Guy Faulks the only person to enter the Parliament with honest 
+intentions and he was going to blow them up !
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+<PRE>On 21.02.2012 02:53, You-Cheng Hsieh wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Hi!
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How about:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Pack all themes in icewm into one &quot;icewm-themes&quot; and pack all
+</I>&gt;<i> locales into one &quot;icewm-i18n&quot; package.
+</I>&gt;<i> OR
+</I>&gt;<i> - Pack each theme as a single package &quot;icewm-theme-%themename&quot;, and
+</I>&gt;<i> have a &quot;icewm-theme&quot; to install all themes.
+</I>I just did it for Window Maker:
+There was an old package wmaker-themes, it got renamed to 
+windowmaker-themes.
+And then it was divided into windowmaker-theme-NAME. There is currently 
+a dummy package windowmaker-themes that requires all themes globally. 
+The default theme was excluded from windowmaker package and included as 
+a subpackage windowmaker-theme-mageia :)
+
+Add also a default Mageia theme with our background located in 
+/usr/share/mga/... default.jpg
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+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/windowmaker-themes/current/SPECS/windowmaker-themes.spec?view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/windowmaker-themes/current/SPECS/windowmaker-themes.spec?view=markup</A>
+&gt;<i> - Pack each locale as a single package &quot;icewm-l10n-%lang&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> or perhaps any better idea...
+</I>I think there is a common way of doing it with Mozilla Apps and KDE.
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I want to propose an idea for icewm packaging:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Currently, the icewm source package builds icewm-light, icewm,
+</I>&gt;<i> icewm-gnome. But the themes and all locale files are included in the
+</I>&gt;<i> icewm package. Even though icewm is already small, I still think it
+</I>&gt;<i> can be better organized.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> How about:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Pack all themes in icewm into one &quot;icewm-themes&quot; and pack all
+</I>&gt;<i> locales into one &quot;icewm-i18n&quot; package.
+</I>&gt;<i> OR
+</I>&gt;<i> - Pack each theme as a single package &quot;icewm-theme-%themename&quot;, and
+</I>&gt;<i> have a &quot;icewm-theme&quot; to install all themes.
+</I>&gt;<i> - Pack each locale as a single package &quot;icewm-l10n-%lang&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> or perhaps any better idea...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> What do you think?
+</I>
+I can understand wanting to separate themes, but I'm against it as IceWM
+is already quite small, and if one wants a minimal installation one can
+use &quot;icewm-light&quot; instead (which doesn't have the themes). I'll leave
+the decision to the maintainer, though.
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+As for localization, I don't see any reason to split them. Having them
+in the main package is the standard way. They do not actually use disk
+space unless the respective locales-XX is installed, and the package
+size difference is very small.
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 05:49:49PM +0100, Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/2/20 Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I have the GNOME view on the world: why have distribution specific tools
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; if you can configure it from GNOME itself. That said, GNOME usually
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; focusses on the very basic options.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oh yes, We are GNOME, is there really a world besides?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Most systems with this view of the world went down the drain :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You mean like Microsoft Windows? :P
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Besides this more philosophical/historical view there is a technical
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> background for my opinion, see my first point.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, and I (as usual) disagree. You see GNOME as a desktop environment,
+</I>&gt;<i> where it should not touch anything that might be part of the
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution.
+</I>
+Yes, I agree to the way it is described on the gnome.org website:
+&quot;The GNOME Project was started in 1997 ..... Their aim: to produce a
+free (as in freedom) *desktop environment*.&quot;
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+Or on wikipedia (which I care less about but describes exactly what I mean):
+&quot;GNOME is a desktop environment and graphical user interface that runs
+on top of a computer operating system.&quot;
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+&gt;<i> where it should not touch anything that might be part of the
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution.
+</I>
+Not exactly what I wrote. I wrote &quot;system&quot; (as in &quot;operation system&quot;),
+not distribution. I don't care what distribution or what desktop one
+uses (as long as he uses Mageia!).
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+But let's take Mageia as example: It consists of 2 parts: the
+operating system and the desktop. The operating system is common for
+all Mageia users while for the desktop the users can choose one of
+many (including different window managers) or even none at all, an
+xterm would do. This means that settings of the operating system
+(screen resolution, networking, software management, sound system,
+user management, etc.) should be done by tools common to all Mageia
+users and installed by default, no matter which desktop environment
+the user selects during installation.
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+Besides, each desktop environment having its own setting tool for
+these system functions would be an unnecessary redundancy and could
+even cause conflicts if the same functions can be set with a system
+tool (such as the draktools) and a tool of the desktop environment
+(such as GNOME system-settings or the KDE equivalent). Lately we had
+some cases in the forum where a user complained that he had switched
+something off in the MCC but it remained unchange, until he was told
+he had to switch it off in the GNOME system settings as well (or
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+Is there need for xedit in Mageia? This package is no longer shipped by 
+Debian, Fedora, Red Hat, Arch, Slackware, Ubuntu.
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+This package is shipped by Gentoo and Mandriva.
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+<A HREF="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xedit_%28X11%29">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xedit_%28X11%29</A>
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+    <B>EatDirt</B> 
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+</I>&gt;<i> My proposition is to drop it. (And the side effect will be to eliminate
+</I>&gt;<i> one of the last things that is based on Aspell)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Just a naive question, but emacs uses aspell too no?
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+chris.
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+&gt;<i> On 21/02/12 09:37, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My proposition is to drop it. (And the side effect will be to eliminate
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> one of the last things that is based on Aspell)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a naive question, but emacs uses aspell too no?
+</I>It was changed to enchant, see <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4462">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4462</A>
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+New version of Xedit was relased in 2010... and until now it's not updated.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> chris.
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+&gt;<i> What is the right policy of using this package? Is it really needed?
+</I>
+Yes, see <A HREF="http://icon-theme.freedesktop.org/wiki/HicolorTheme.">http://icon-theme.freedesktop.org/wiki/HicolorTheme.</A>
+
+Ignore the name, historical thing. Basically all icons are based upon
+this theme. Somewhat proper name might be freedesktop-icon-theme or
+something.
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+&gt;<i> On 21.02.2012 09:50, EatDirt wrote:
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Just a naive question, but emacs uses aspell too no?
+</I>&gt;<i> It was changed to enchant, see <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4462">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4462</A>
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+&gt;<i> Le mardi 21 f&#233;vrier 2012 02:53:21, vous avez &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I want to propose an idea for icewm packaging:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How about:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Pack all themes in icewm into one &quot;icewm-themes&quot; and pack all
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> locales into one &quot;icewm-i18n&quot; package.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This seems the better to me, even if I'm think a separate package for i18n is
+</I>&gt;<i> useless : users always want locales. A different package is for me some
+</I>&gt;<i> different functionality. The only interest of separate i18n packages is when
+</I>&gt;<i> they become huge.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> By the way, please go on with your idea. I tried to update the icewm package
+</I>&gt;<i> some months ago, but could not build it. I hope you can do that. I can release
+</I>&gt;<i> it in maintdb also if you want.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Jos&#233;
+</I>Thank you. I'll discuss with my mentor (Funda) and try if I can build
+it. (I'm still an apprentice, actually.)
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+I think I've mentioned this before here, but I keep getting tripped up
+by this problem giving out false information.
+
+Is this because the kernel requires it as Requires(pre) and thus it
+doesn't show up? Should it show up?
+
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+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires dracut
+no package requires dracut
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ rpm -q --requires kernel-desktop-latest
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+rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) &lt;= 3.0.4-1
+rpmlib(PayloadIsLzma) &lt;= 4.4.6-1
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ rpm -q --requires kernel-desktop-3.2.6-3.mga2
+bootloader-utils &gt;= 1.13-1
+dracut &gt;= 016-1
+module-init-tools &gt;= 3.16-14
+sysfsutils &gt;= 1.3.0-1
+kernel-firmware &gt;= 20111229-1
+carl9170-firmware &gt;= 1.9.4-1
+/bin/sh
+/bin/sh
+/bin/sh
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+rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) &lt;= 4.0-1
+rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) &lt;= 3.0.4-1
+rpmlib(PayloadIsLzma) &lt;= 4.4.6-1
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires &quot;dracut &gt;= 016-1&quot;
+no package requires dracut &gt;= 016-1
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Johnny A. Solbu at 20/02/12 23:24 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Monday 20 February 2012 22:45, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can you reliably reproduce this broken initrd (i.e. get the same results
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> from your lsinitrd-broken.txt?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> And just how do I do that?
+</I>&gt;<i> I got this problem simply by running &quot;urpmi --auto-update&quot; and rebooted.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I've had several reports about this (nothing in bin/ except two plymout
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> binaries), but I've not been able to get anyone who can then
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> subsequently recreate the problem running dracut manually...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If you can, please do get in touch.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm willing to try. :-)=
+</I>&gt;<i> I just don't know what to do.
+</I>
+Basically boot into a working kernel+ramdisk. Then, as root:
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+dracut -f foo.img 3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2
+lsinitrd foo.img | grep &quot; bin/&quot;
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+Then secondly:
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+mkinitrd -f foo.img 3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2
+lsinitrd foo.img | grep &quot; bin/&quot;
+
+
+Note that if things are working OK, both these commands should do
+exactly the same thing. If the output looks different, then something is
+wrong.
+
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+
+In a working system the output should look something like:
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at jimmy</A> ~]# dracut -f foo.img 3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2
+I: *** Including module: bootchart ***
+I: *** Including module: dash ***
+I: *** Including module: i18n ***
+I: *** Including module: rpmversion ***
+I: *** Including module: plymouth ***
+I: *** Including module: dm ***
+I: Skipping udev rule: 64-device-mapper.rules
+I: *** Including module: kernel-modules ***
+I: *** Including module: lvm ***
+I: Skipping udev rule: 64-device-mapper.rules
+I: *** Including module: resume ***
+I: *** Including module: rootfs-block ***
+I: *** Including module: terminfo ***
+I: *** Including module: udev-rules ***
+I: Skipping udev rule: 50-udev.rules
+I: Skipping udev rule: 95-late.rules
+I: Skipping udev rule: 50-firmware.rules
+I: *** Including module: usrmount ***
+I: *** Including module: base ***
+I: *** Including module: fs-lib ***
+I: *** Including module: shutdown ***
+I: Skipping program kexec as it cannot be found and is flagged to be
+optional
+I: *** Including modules done ***
+lsiniI: Wrote /root/foo.img:
+I: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7154651 Feb 21 09:34 /root/foo.img
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at jimmy</A> ~]# lsinitrd foo.img | grep &quot; bin/&quot;
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       126128 Aug 27 10:58 bin/cp
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        13040 Jul 21  2011 bin/kbd_mode
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        14136 Jan 25 07:56 bin/flock
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       830760 May  9  2011 bin/bash
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        67872 Aug 27 10:58 bin/stty
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        58560 Aug 27 10:58 bin/rm
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        96096 Sep  8 22:22 bin/dash
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        50304 Aug 27 10:58 bin/mkdir
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       137272 Nov 18 19:28 bin/grep
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        29664 Aug 27 10:58 bin/sleep
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        20160 Jan 14  2011 bin/pkill
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        42376 Jul 21  2011 bin/setfont
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       114064 Jul 21  2011 bin/loadkeys
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        50344 Aug 27 10:58 bin/ln
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        50400 Aug 27 10:58 bin/cat
+lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root            4 Feb 21 09:33 bin/sh -&gt; dash
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       116296 Aug 27 10:58 bin/mv
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        22120 Jan 25 07:56 bin/dmesg
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        39248 Dec 19 09:11 bin/plymouth
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        29664 Aug 27 10:58 bin/uname
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        37896 Aug 27 10:58 bin/[
+-rwsr-xr-x   1 root     root        55216 Jan 25 07:56 bin/umount
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       132280 Jan 12  2011 bin/sed
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        29648 Aug 27 10:58 bin/basename
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        33792 Aug 27 10:58 bin/mknod
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       109960 Aug 27 10:58 bin/ls
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        10328 Feb 16 14:10 bin/usleep
+-rwsr-xr-x   1 root     root        72808 Jan 25 07:56 bin/mount
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        83944 Dec 19 09:11 bin/plymouthd
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        29648 Aug 27 10:58 bin/echo
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at jimmy</A> ~]# mkinitrd -f foo.img 3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2
+I: *** Including module: bootchart ***
+I: *** Including module: dash ***
+I: *** Including module: i18n ***
+I: *** Including module: rpmversion ***
+I: *** Including module: plymouth ***
+I: *** Including module: dm ***
+I: Skipping udev rule: 64-device-mapper.rules
+I: *** Including module: kernel-modules ***
+I: *** Including module: lvm ***
+I: Skipping udev rule: 64-device-mapper.rules
+I: *** Including module: resume ***
+I: *** Including module: rootfs-block ***
+I: *** Including module: terminfo ***
+I: *** Including module: udev-rules ***
+I: Skipping udev rule: 50-udev.rules
+I: Skipping udev rule: 95-late.rules
+I: Skipping udev rule: 50-firmware.rules
+I: *** Including module: usrmount ***
+I: *** Including module: base ***
+I: *** Including module: fs-lib ***
+I: *** Including module: shutdown ***
+I: Skipping program kexec as it cannot be found and is flagged to be
+optional
+I: *** Including modules done ***
+I: Wrote /root/foo.img:
+I: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 7154561 Feb 21 09:35 /root/foo.img
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at jimmy</A> ~]# lsinitrd foo.img | grep &quot; bin/&quot;
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       126128 Aug 27 10:58 bin/cp
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        13040 Jul 21  2011 bin/kbd_mode
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        14136 Jan 25 07:56 bin/flock
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       830760 May  9  2011 bin/bash
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        67872 Aug 27 10:58 bin/stty
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        58560 Aug 27 10:58 bin/rm
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        96096 Sep  8 22:22 bin/dash
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        50304 Aug 27 10:58 bin/mkdir
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       137272 Nov 18 19:28 bin/grep
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        29664 Aug 27 10:58 bin/sleep
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        20160 Jan 14  2011 bin/pkill
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        42376 Jul 21  2011 bin/setfont
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       114064 Jul 21  2011 bin/loadkeys
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        50344 Aug 27 10:58 bin/ln
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        50400 Aug 27 10:58 bin/cat
+lrwxrwxrwx   1 root     root            4 Feb 21 09:35 bin/sh -&gt; dash
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       116296 Aug 27 10:58 bin/mv
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        22120 Jan 25 07:56 bin/dmesg
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        39248 Dec 19 09:11 bin/plymouth
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        29664 Aug 27 10:58 bin/uname
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        37896 Aug 27 10:58 bin/[
+-rwsr-xr-x   1 root     root        55216 Jan 25 07:56 bin/umount
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       132280 Jan 12  2011 bin/sed
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        29648 Aug 27 10:58 bin/basename
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        33792 Aug 27 10:58 bin/mknod
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root       109960 Aug 27 10:58 bin/ls
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        10328 Feb 16 14:10 bin/usleep
+-rwsr-xr-x   1 root     root        72808 Jan 25 07:56 bin/mount
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        83944 Dec 19 09:11 bin/plymouthd
+-rwxr-xr-x   1 root     root        29648 Aug 27 10:58 bin/echo
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+Some more details here:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4541">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4541</A>
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+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 12:30:24AM +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What is the right policy of using this package? Is it really needed?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, see <A HREF="http://icon-theme.freedesktop.org/wiki/HicolorTheme.">http://icon-theme.freedesktop.org/wiki/HicolorTheme.</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Ignore the name, historical thing. Basically all icons are based upon
+</I>&gt;<i> this theme. Somewhat proper name might be freedesktop-icon-theme or
+</I>&gt;<i> something.
+</I>
+Yeah it would be kinda nice to rename it to freedesktop-icon-theme and
+then symlink /usr/share/icons/freedesktop to /usr/share/icons/hicolor...
+then gradually transition all apps using hicolor to use freedesktop instead.
+
+This would be the &quot;right&quot; thing to do but I suspect that the gains are
+not worth the pains... it would certainly clarify things a bit tho'.
+
+Col
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+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+&gt;<i> See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3358#c3">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3358#c3</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyone care to comment?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 					L.G.
+</I>To make replying easier, here is the question from the above link:
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+&gt;<i>  By default, virtualenv creates virtual environments using setuptools rather
+</I>&gt;<i>  than distribute. This causes virtualenv to complain if  PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE
+</I>&gt;<i>  is set (which is the default in Mageia):
+</I>
+&gt;<i>  The PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE environment variable is not compatible with
+</I>&gt;<i>  setuptools. Either use --distribute or unset PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE.
+</I>
+&gt;<i>  Do we effectively want to require users to explicitly set the variable in order
+</I>&gt;<i>  to use virtualenv with its default settings? (If we do, I can add an
+</I>&gt;<i>  installation message to the package to warn users to unset the variable
+</I>&gt;<i>  themselves.)
+</I>
+
+To me current behaviour as described above sounds strange, even irritating, but I'm not a packager and I don't even use the package, so I don't know enough.
+
+@ Lev
+I understand in Mandriva virtualenv the default settings can be used without having to unset a variable, and that that doesn't cause other problems.
+Is that correct?
+
+If so, and if no one cares to reply to this mail or in the bug report, I think you can just go ahead and change the default environment variable from
+PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE to whatever Mandriva's default is. If that causes any new problems, we'll find out soon enough when the package is in cauldron ;)
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+Regards,
+Marja
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+anymore even in mandriva. Maybe we should switch to oxygen theme[1].
+Then,
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+1) put the oxygen theme into icewm-theme-oxygen
+2) make icewm-light require icewm-theme-oxygen, due to settings in icewm.
+3) put other thems into icewm package as current situation. Anyway,
+splitting is also a good idea, as it will make it a soft requirement
+(suggests) for main package.
+4) split out i18n package as one icewm-l10n, the same as pidgin.
+
+[1]: <A HREF="http://box-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen?content=87523">http://box-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen?content=87523</A>
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+<PRE>On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 10:27 AM, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think I've mentioned this before here, but I keep getting tripped up
+</I>&gt;<i> by this problem giving out false information.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is this because the kernel requires it as Requires(pre) and thus it
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't show up? Should it show up?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires dracut
+</I>&gt;<i> no package requires dracut
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ rpm -q --requires kernel-desktop-latest
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel-desktop-3.2.6-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) &lt;= 4.0-1
+</I>&gt;<i> rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) &lt;= 3.0.4-1
+</I>&gt;<i> rpmlib(PayloadIsLzma) &lt;= 4.4.6-1
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ rpm -q --requires kernel-desktop-3.2.6-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> bootloader-utils &gt;= 1.13-1
+</I>&gt;<i> dracut &gt;= 016-1
+</I>&gt;<i> module-init-tools &gt;= 3.16-14
+</I>&gt;<i> sysfsutils &gt;= 1.3.0-1
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel-firmware &gt;= 20111229-1
+</I>&gt;<i> carl9170-firmware &gt;= 1.9.4-1
+</I>&gt;<i> /bin/sh
+</I>&gt;<i> /bin/sh
+</I>&gt;<i> /bin/sh
+</I>&gt;<i> /bin/sh
+</I>&gt;<i> rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) &lt;= 4.0-1
+</I>&gt;<i> rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) &lt;= 3.0.4-1
+</I>&gt;<i> rpmlib(PayloadIsLzma) &lt;= 4.4.6-1
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ rpm -q --whatrequires &quot;dracut &gt;= 016-1&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> no package requires dracut &gt;= 016-1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Col
+</I>
+
+seems urpmq --whatrequires dracut  does the job
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
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+</I>&gt;<i> I think I've mentioned this before here, but I keep getting tripped up
+</I>&gt;<i> by this problem giving out false information.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is this because the kernel requires it as Requires(pre) and thus it
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't show up? Should it show up?
+</I>
+I think this is &quot;normal&quot;
+If the package can need it later, it should also require it without
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Pascal Terjan at 21/02/12 11:53 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 09:27, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think I've mentioned this before here, but I keep getting tripped up
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> by this problem giving out false information.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is this because the kernel requires it as Requires(pre) and thus it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> doesn't show up? Should it show up?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I think this is &quot;normal&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> If the package can need it later, it should also require it without
+</I>&gt;<i> (pre), else you can uninstall it later as it is only required at the
+</I>&gt;<i> time the %pre is run
+</I>
+That makes sense, but then shouldn't &quot;urpmq --whatrequires dracut&quot;
+produce the same results.
+
+Seems strange to me as the two arguments seem like they should do the
+same thing, but clearly they don't.
+
+Perhaps the options should be:
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+--whatrequires (covers all types of Require(*):
+--whatrequires-pre
+--whatrequires-post
+--whatrequires-runtime
+
+That way everything is quite deterministic and flexible.
+
+The question is which should change? (and who wants to do it? :D)
+
+Col
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+-- 
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+colin(at)mageia.org
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+    <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> 
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+<PRE>On Tuesday 21 February 2012 10:36, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> dracut -f foo.img 3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> lsinitrd foo.img | grep &quot; bin/&quot;
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/dracut.txt">http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/dracut.txt</A>
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+&gt;<i> mkinitrd -f foo.img 3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> lsinitrd foo.img | grep &quot; bin/&quot;
+</I>
+<A HREF="http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/mkinitrd.txt">http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/mkinitrd.txt</A>
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+I compared the existing, broken initrd with the new foo, in case it's interesting:
+===
+# ll foo.img /boot/initrd-3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2.img
+-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2572041 feb.  18 20:37 /boot/initrd-3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2.img
+-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5593019 feb.  21 13:24 foo.img
+===
+
+-- 
+Johnny A. Solbu
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Johnny A. Solbu at 21/02/12 12:32 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Tuesday 21 February 2012 10:36, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dracut -f foo.img 3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lsinitrd foo.img | grep &quot; bin/&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/dracut.txt">http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/dracut.txt</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mkinitrd -f foo.img 3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lsinitrd foo.img | grep &quot; bin/&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/mkinitrd.txt">http://www.solbu.net/mageia-dracut/mkinitrd.txt</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I compared the existing, broken initrd with the new foo, in case it's interesting:
+</I>&gt;<i> ===
+</I>&gt;<i> # ll foo.img /boot/initrd-3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2.img
+</I>&gt;<i> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 2572041 feb.  18 20:37 /boot/initrd-3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2.img
+</I>&gt;<i> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5593019 feb.  21 13:24 foo.img
+</I>&gt;<i> ===
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+Thanks for that.
+
+Sadly this test shows things working as expected when you do it
+manually. Lots of things included now in bin/ and a sensible size from
+the resulting initrd.
+
+You can probably boot to the new kernel using that initrd now. (just: mv
+foo.img /boot/initrd-3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2.img)...
+
+And yet again the problem hides itself... :s
+
+I'm trying to debug the issue via:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4588">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4588</A> if you're interested.
+
+Col
+
+-- 
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+    <B>Johnny A. Solbu</B> 
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+<PRE>On Tuesday 21 February 2012 13:53, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+&gt;<i> You can probably boot to the new kernel using that initrd now.
+</I>
+Indeed I can.
+===
+$ uname -r
+3.2.6-desktop-3.mga2
+===
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+&gt;<i> And yet again the problem hides itself... :s
+</I>
+They are good at that, aren't they? ;-)=
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+<PRE>On 21 February 2012 13:53, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Sadly this test shows things working as expected when you do it
+</I>&gt;<i> manually. Lots of things included now in bin/ and a sensible size from
+</I>&gt;<i> the resulting initrd.
+</I>
+(...)
+
+&gt;<i> And yet again the problem hides itself... :s
+</I>
+Maybe an ordering issue?
+Though in my mga1 to cauldron upgrade tests, ordering was OK
+We would need update logs from people actually having the issue.
+
+Although there does be some ordering issues:
+- plymouth should requires mkinitrd
+- kernels should require makedev &amp; sound-scripts (for
+/etc/modprobe.d/snd-oss.conf)
+  (/etc/sysconfig/keyboard does't exit when doing a urpmi --urpmi-root test)
+
+BTW initrd-desktop.img &amp; the like links got blindly updated whereas
+the initrd was
+successfully generated or not.
+We should test for file existence before symlinking IMHO...
+
+See logs:
+
+  220/273: plymouth              #############################################
+/usr/libexec/plymouth/plymouth-update-initrd: line 2: mkinitrd:
+command not found
+warning: %post(plymouth-0.8.4-0.20111214.3.mga2.x86_64) scriptlet
+failed, exit status 127
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+  224/273: kernel-desktop-3.2.6-3.mga2
+                                 #############################################
+Cannot find a boot loader installed. Only taking care of initrd
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+WARNING: Failed to open config file /etc/modprobe.d/snd-oss.conf: No
+such file or directory
+WARNING: Failed to open config file /etc/modprobe.d/snd-oss.conf: No
+such file or directory
+E: Could not find program &quot;dhclient&quot; required by network.
+I: *** Including module: dash ***
+I: *** Including module: i18n ***
+grep: /etc/sysconfig/keyboard: No such file or directory
+grep: /etc/sysconfig/keyboard: No such file or directory
+grep: /etc/sysconfig/keyboard: No such file or directory
+E: No KEYMAP.
+I: *** Including module: plymouth ***
+I: *** Including module: kernel-modules ***
+E: WARNING: Failed to open config file /etc/modprobe.d/snd-oss.conf:
+No such file or directory
+E: WARNING: Failed to open config file /etc/modprobe.d/snd-oss.conf:
+No such file or directory
+E: WARNING: Failed to open config file /etc/modprobe.d/snd-oss.conf:
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+E: WARNING: Failed to open config file /etc/modprobe.d/snd-oss.conf:
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+&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Is there need for xedit in Mageia? This package is no longer shipped by
+</I>&gt;<i> Debian, Fedora, Red Hat, Arch, Slackware, Ubuntu.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This package is shipped by Gentoo and Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xedit_%28X11%29">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xedit_%28X11%29</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This package is unmaintained.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> My proposition is to drop it. (And the side effect will be to eliminate
+</I>&gt;<i> one of the last things that is based on Aspell)
+</I>I am ok to drop it.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 21/02/12 13:33 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 21 February 2012 13:53, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sadly this test shows things working as expected when you do it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> manually. Lots of things included now in bin/ and a sensible size from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the resulting initrd.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> (...)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> And yet again the problem hides itself... :s
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe an ordering issue?
+</I>
+Well, that was kinda my thought too, but the kernel itself does have a
+&quot;Requires(Pre): dracut &gt;= 016-1&quot; which really should take care of the
+ordering.
+
+&gt;<i> Though in my mga1 to cauldron upgrade tests, ordering was OK
+</I>&gt;<i> We would need update logs from people actually having the issue.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Although there does be some ordering issues:
+</I>&gt;<i> - plymouth should requires mkinitrd
+</I>
+Oh right yeah.
+
+&gt;<i> - kernels should require makedev &amp; sound-scripts (for
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/modprobe.d/snd-oss.conf)
+</I>
+Hmm, not sure they should require sound-scripts.... Sound is not
+essential after all. And regardless, snd-oss.conf is an alternatives
+thing anyway these days, so should it also require osspd to get the
+&quot;preferred&quot; alternative? I don't think so.
+
+Can you explain your thinking a bit more on the sound-scripts thing?
+
+EDIT: never mind I see what you mean from the log output below...
+
+Possibly just that sound-scripts actually needs a require on
+libalsa-data which at very least provides the alsa sound profile which
+would make that snd-oss.conf symlink exist....
+
+I'd guess that the link to the &quot;current&quot; sound profile symlink is
+missing and thus that file goes nowhere.... Can you check the ordering
+to see when libalsa-data was installed - I'm guessing later than 224...
+
+
+Also not sure about makedev... how important is that these days with
+udev and the like? Is it just for the /dev/mem issue? If so can we find
+where it's used and factor it out if it's not available? AFAICT it's not
+in dracut, so I'm guessing somewhere in out bootloader scripts?
+
+
+&gt;<i>   (/etc/sysconfig/keyboard does't exit when doing a urpmi --urpmi-root test)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW initrd-desktop.img &amp; the like links got blindly updated whereas
+</I>&gt;<i> the initrd was
+</I>&gt;<i> successfully generated or not.
+</I>&gt;<i> We should test for file existence before symlinking IMHO...
+</I>
+Yeah. I still can't actually work out why my home (mga1) system doesn't
+update the -desktop links properly :s
+
+&gt;<i> See logs:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>   220/273: plymouth              #############################################
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/libexec/plymouth/plymouth-update-initrd: line 2: mkinitrd:
+</I>&gt;<i> command not found
+</I>&gt;<i> warning: %post(plymouth-0.8.4-0.20111214.3.mga2.x86_64) scriptlet
+</I>&gt;<i> failed, exit status 127
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>   224/273: kernel-desktop-3.2.6-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i>                                  #############################################
+</I>&gt;<i> Cannot find a boot loader installed. Only taking care of initrd
+</I>&gt;<i> /dev/mem: No such file or directory
+</I>
+I guess this is why makedev is wanted?
+
+
+&gt;<i> WARNING: Failed to open config file /etc/modprobe.d/snd-oss.conf: No
+</I>&gt;<i> such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> WARNING: Failed to open config file /etc/modprobe.d/snd-oss.conf: No
+</I>&gt;<i> such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> E: Could not find program &quot;dhclient&quot; required by network.
+</I>
+Hmm, not sure why that's being reported as an error... should just be a
+check to perform to decide whether or not the network module can be
+included IMO... Will ask upstream.
+
+
+&gt;<i> I: *** Including module: dash ***
+</I>&gt;<i> I: *** Including module: i18n ***
+</I>&gt;<i> grep: /etc/sysconfig/keyboard: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> grep: /etc/sysconfig/keyboard: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> grep: /etc/sysconfig/keyboard: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i> E: No KEYMAP.
+</I>
+Hmmm, looks like it's missing some -f checks here...
+
+&gt;<i> I: *** Including module: plymouth ***
+</I>&gt;<i> I: *** Including module: kernel-modules ***
+</I>
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> On Tuesday, February 21, 2012 01:37:53 AM Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is there need for xedit in Mageia? This package is no longer shipped by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Debian, Fedora, Red Hat, Arch, Slackware, Ubuntu.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This package is shipped by Gentoo and Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xedit_%28X11%29">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xedit_%28X11%29</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This package is unmaintained.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> My proposition is to drop it. (And the side effect will be to eliminate
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> one of the last things that is based on Aspell)
+</I>&gt;<i> I am ok to drop it.
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+no objection here too.
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+<PRE>Received from Marja van Waes on Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 04:42:20AM EST:
+&gt;<i> On 20/02/12 20:15, Lev Givon wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3358#c3">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3358#c3</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;Anyone care to comment?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;					L.G.
+</I>&gt;<i> To make replying easier, here is the question from the above link:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; By default, virtualenv creates virtual environments using setuptools rather
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; than distribute. This causes virtualenv to complain if  PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; is set (which is the default in Mageia):
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE environment variable is not compatible with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; setuptools. Either use --distribute or unset PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Do we effectively want to require users to explicitly set the variable in order
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to use virtualenv with its default settings? (If we do, I can add an
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; installation message to the package to warn users to unset the variable
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; themselves.)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> To me current behaviour as described above sounds strange, even
+</I>&gt;<i> irritating, but I'm not a packager and I don't even use the package,
+</I>&gt;<i> so I don't know enough.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> @ Lev
+</I>&gt;<i> I understand in Mandriva virtualenv the default settings can be used
+</I>&gt;<i> without having to unset a variable, and that that doesn't cause
+</I>&gt;<i> other problems.  Is that correct?
+</I>
+The Mandriva package uses the same approach as the one in Mageia,
+i.e., PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE is unset within
+/usr/bin/virtualenv so that it will run successfully without requiring
+that the user explicitly unset the variable or run the script with a
+specific flag.
+
+Given that the variable is only set when virtualenv is run to create a
+virtual environment and does not affect the variable's setting in a
+user's session, I'm inclined to leave the package as-is.
+
+&gt;<i> If so, and if no one cares to reply to this mail or in the bug
+</I>&gt;<i> report, I think you can just go ahead and change the default
+</I>&gt;<i> environment variable from PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE to whatever
+</I>&gt;<i> Mandriva's default is. If that causes any new problems, we'll find
+</I>&gt;<i> out soon enough when the package is in cauldron ;)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Marja
+</I>
+						L.G.
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+&gt;<i> Possibly just that sound-scripts actually needs a require on
+</I>&gt;<i> libalsa-data which at very least provides the alsa sound profile which
+</I>&gt;<i> would make that snd-oss.conf symlink exist....
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd guess that the link to the &quot;current&quot; sound profile symlink is
+</I>&gt;<i> missing and thus that file goes nowhere.... Can you check the ordering
+</I>&gt;<i> to see when libalsa-data was installed - I'm guessing later than 224...
+</I>
+There's no libalsa* when testing basesystem + kernel with no suggests
+(actually even with suggests it's not pulled in)
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+&gt;<i> Also not sure about makedev... how important is that these days with
+</I>&gt;<i> udev and the like? Is it just for the /dev/mem issue? If so can we find
+</I>&gt;<i> where it's used and factor it out if it's not available? AFAICT it's not
+</I>&gt;<i> in dracut, so I'm guessing somewhere in out bootloader scripts?
+</I>
+Well it's cheap (small &amp; fast).
+It's used as in &quot;required by basesystem-minimal (and also a couple
+other packages) and automagically creating /dev/* nodes in %post)&quot;
+
+&gt;<i> &#160; 224/273: kernel-desktop-3.2.6-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;#############################################
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Cannot find a boot loader installed. Only taking care of initrd
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /dev/mem: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess this is why makedev is wanted?
+</I>
+yep.
+Though this is not an issue within drakx (see below).
+Just when playing with urpmi --urpmi-root which is seldom
+used for real live systems
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> grep: /etc/sysconfig/keyboard: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> grep: /etc/sysconfig/keyboard: No such file or directory
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> E: No KEYMAP.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Hmmm, looks like it's missing some -f checks here...
+</I>
+Indeed since this one won't exist until someone run keyboardrake
+(within drakx, this is not an issue of course as drakx takes care of
+creating the devices prior installing packages)
+Now that we use udev, we could even just bind mounting /dev
+on /mnt/dev in drakx.
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+Being simple user and tester of Xfce, this discussion was very enriching 
+about xguest. Even if everybody does not use it, in my humble opinion 
+xguest has to stay.
+
+There stays my problem of display a manager.
+The xguest package requires a package having the property dm.
+There is indeed xdm who is systematically installed. 
+But at present, it does not possess the property dm.
+It results, from this, the installation of kdm with all its dependences. 
+It is necessary to avoid this when kdm is not necessary (in particular for Xfce).
+
+I wished it on bugzilla (4532). The tries which I made showed that this 
+modification of xdm has no incidence when you install the Gnome or KDE 
+environment. Would anybody like to take care of it?
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+&gt;<i> Being simple user and tester of Xfce, this discussion was very enriching
+</I>&gt;<i> about xguest. Even if everybody does not use it, in my humble opinion
+</I>&gt;<i> xguest has to stay.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There stays my problem of display a manager.
+</I>&gt;<i> The xguest package requires a package having the property dm.
+</I>
+This is no more true
+
+&gt;<i> There is indeed xdm who is systematically installed.
+</I>&gt;<i> But at present, it does not possess the property dm.
+</I>&gt;<i> It results, from this, the installation of kdm with all its dependences.
+</I>&gt;<i> It is necessary to avoid this when kdm is not necessary (in particular for Xfce).
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+&gt;<i> Pa&#239;ou&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">paiiou at ...</A>&gt;  writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Being simple user and tester of Xfce, this discussion was very enriching
+</I>&gt;<i> about xguest. Even if everybody does not use it, in my humble opinion
+</I>&gt;<i> xguest has to stay.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There stays my problem of display a manager.
+</I>&gt;<i> The xguest package requires a package having the property dm.
+</I>
+As of xguest-1.0.10-5.mga2, released by tv on 2012-02-20, it does not
+require a dm anymore...
+
+&gt;<i> There is indeed xdm who is systematically installed.
+</I>&gt;<i> But at present, it does not possess the property dm.
+</I>&gt;<i> It results, from this, the installation of kdm with all its dependences.
+</I>&gt;<i> It is necessary to avoid this when kdm is not necessary (in particular for Xfce).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wished it on bugzilla (4532). The tries which I made showed that this
+</I>&gt;<i> modification of xdm has no incidence when you install the Gnome or KDE
+</I>&gt;<i> environment. Would anybody like to take care of it?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+--
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The xguest package requires a package having the property dm.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This is no more true
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>Oops!!! Exact, I missed this modification.
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+And I can announce that the minimal installation is optimal ( 587 packages).
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+As regards xdm, I ask however the question of the absence of the property DM. 
+But now it is more out of curiosity.
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+    <B>David W. Hodgins</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Is this because the kernel requires it as Requires(pre) and thus it
+</I>&gt;<i> doesn't show up? Should it show up?
+</I>
+I don't know if it should show up for rpm or not, but it works
+with urpmq ...
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at hodgins</A> /]# rpm -q --whatrequires dracut
+no package requires dracut
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at hodgins</A> /]# urpmq --whatrequires dracut
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+kernel-linus-3.2.6-1.mga2
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+&gt;<i> First, icewm is still using galaxy theme. I guess it is not used
+</I>&gt;<i> anymore even in mandriva. Maybe we should switch to oxygen theme[1].
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) put the oxygen theme into icewm-theme-oxygen
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) make icewm-light require icewm-theme-oxygen, due to settings in icewm.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [1]: <A HREF="http://box-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen?content=87523">http://box-look.org/content/show.php/Oxygen?content=87523</A>
+</I>Hello,
+Do we have a formal default theme selection process?
+Personally I prefer the OxyAya theme, which looks more close to Mageia
+KDE default:
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+<A HREF="http://box-look.org/content/show.php/OxyAya?content=136242">http://box-look.org/content/show.php/OxyAya?content=136242</A>
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+2012/2/22 You-Cheng Hsieh &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yochenhsieh at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> Do we have a formal default theme selection process?
+</I>&gt;<i> Personally I prefer the OxyAya theme, which looks more close to Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> KDE default:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://box-look.org/content/show.php/OxyAya?content=136242">http://box-look.org/content/show.php/OxyAya?content=136242</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But that's still a personal preference.
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+    <B>Marja van Waes</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Received from Marja van Waes on Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 04:42:20AM EST:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 20/02/12 20:15, Lev Givon wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3358#c3">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3358#c3</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Anyone care to comment?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 					L.G.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To make replying easier, here is the question from the above link:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> By default, virtualenv creates virtual environments using setuptools rather
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> than distribute. This causes virtualenv to complain if  PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is set (which is the default in Mageia):
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE environment variable is not compatible with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> setuptools. Either use --distribute or unset PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Do we effectively want to require users to explicitly set the variable in order
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> to use virtualenv with its default settings? (If we do, I can add an
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installation message to the package to warn users to unset the variable
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> themselves.)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To me current behaviour as described above sounds strange, even
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> irritating, but I'm not a packager and I don't even use the package,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so I don't know enough.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> @ Lev
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I understand in Mandriva virtualenv the default settings can be used
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> without having to unset a variable, and that that doesn't cause
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> other problems.  Is that correct?
+</I>&gt;<i> The Mandriva package uses the same approach as the one in Mageia,
+</I>&gt;<i> i.e., PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE is unset within
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/bin/virtualenv so that it will run successfully without requiring
+</I>&gt;<i> that the user explicitly unset the variable or run the script with a
+</I>&gt;<i> specific flag.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Given that the variable is only set when virtualenv is run to create a
+</I>&gt;<i> virtual environment and does not affect the variable's setting in a
+</I>&gt;<i> user's session, I'm inclined to leave the package as-is.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Sounds indeed like there is no urgent reason for a change. Besides, 
+python-virtualenv users who run both Mageia and Mandriva, or switch 
+between them, will probably be glad the package behaves the same in both 
+distro's :)
+
+It's a pity no python-virtualenv users seem interested in this 
+discussion. There is a (small?) chance they missed it because the 
+subject line of the first message in the thread didn't mention the 
+package name, though.
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+Regards,
+Marja
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+&gt;<i> You could select the most appropriate theme, I think.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012/2/22 You-Cheng Hsieh &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yochenhsieh at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do we have a formal default theme selection process?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Personally I prefer the OxyAya theme, which looks more close to Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> KDE default:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://box-look.org/content/show.php/OxyAya?content=136242">http://box-look.org/content/show.php/OxyAya?content=136242</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But that's still a personal preference.
+</I>
+we decided to have the same theme everywher. By coherency we have to
+use oxygen here too i think
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You could select the most appropriate theme, I think.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2012/2/22 You-Cheng Hsieh &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">yochenhsieh at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Do we have a formal default theme selection process?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Personally I prefer the OxyAya theme, which looks more close to Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> KDE default:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://box-look.org/content/show.php/OxyAya?content=136242">http://box-look.org/content/show.php/OxyAya?content=136242</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But that's still a personal preference.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we decided to have the same theme everywher. By coherency we have to
+</I>&gt;<i> use oxygen here too i think
+</I>
+By &quot;same theme&quot;, I suppose that means for how it looks, instead of the
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; The xguest package requires a package having the property dm.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This is no more true
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Oops!!! Exact, I missed this modification.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And I can announce that the minimal installation is optimal ( 587 packages).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As regards xdm, I ask however the question of the absence of the property DM.
+</I>&gt;<i> But now it is more out of curiosity.
+</I>&gt;<i> With all my thanks.
+</I>
+Because it's not as featured as other and do not advertize guest account.
+There were other reasons but frederic crozat is now gone.
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+&gt;<i> After installing unetbootin on my updated Cauldron box:
+</I>&gt;<i> When I start unetbootin - I get an error message stating that extlinx is
+</I>&gt;<i> not found - but oddly enough, it is installed . . .
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+    <B>D.Morgan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 14.02.2012 15:40, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> To-do before the version freeze (I think, I can finish it tonight):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - review additional ~50 hunspell dicts and use better obsoletion of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> myspell
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - stop providing enchant-dictionary in 2/3 aspell dicts
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Done.
+</I>&gt;<i> All Hunspell dictionaries are ready, Aspell one are cleaned and Myspell is
+</I>&gt;<i> moved into obsoletes. Have fun and feel free to submit bugs.
+</I>
+aspell is still available on mirors. Do we need to remove them
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:00 AM, Kamil Rytarowski&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 14.02.2012 15:40, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> To-do before the version freeze (I think, I can finish it tonight):
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - review additional ~50 hunspell dicts and use better obsoletion of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> myspell
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - stop providing enchant-dictionary in 2/3 aspell dicts
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Done.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> All Hunspell dictionaries are ready, Aspell one are cleaned and Myspell is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> moved into obsoletes. Have fun and feel free to submit bugs.
+</I>&gt;<i> aspell is still available on mirors. Do we need to remove them
+</I>&gt;<i> manually from the repo ?
+</I>No, Aspell can't be obsoleted definitely (and so removed from mirrors) 
+in this moment. Current goal is to stop installing, requiring it.
+It's still a requirement of Scribus (there is an upstream bug) and PHP 
+(Thomas is having look) + Perl (there are bugs against Jerome's 
+packages) modules.
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+    <B>cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com</B> 
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+    <B>Jerome Quelin</B> 
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+&gt;<i> It's still a requirement of Scribus (there is an upstream bug) and
+</I>&gt;<i> PHP (Thomas is having look) + Perl (there are bugs against Jerome's
+</I>&gt;<i> packages) modules.
+</I>
+perl-Test-Spelling has been taken care of.
+
+perl-Padre-Plugin-SpellCheck is currently being worked upon upstream,
+i'll update it as soon as it's done.
+
+perl-Lingua-Ispell needs to be obsoleted, but i cannot find a
+task-obsolete package as we talked about - any news about this?
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+j&#233;r&#244;me 
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> perl-Lingua-Ispell needs to be obsoleted, but i cannot find a
+</I>&gt;<i> task-obsolete package as we talked about - any news about this?
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+For perl modules, it can be done in perl-base IMHO...
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+    <B>Jerome Quelin</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 22 February 2012 10:28, Jerome Quelin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jquelin at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; perl-Lingua-Ispell needs to be obsoleted, but i cannot find a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; task-obsolete package as we talked about - any news about this?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> For perl modules, it can be done in perl-base IMHO...
+</I>
+but then, should it also &quot;provides&quot; it? otherwise, package would remain
+on mirrors, wouldn't it?
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+j&#233;r&#244;me 
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 12/02/22 09:40 +0100, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It's still a requirement of Scribus (there is an upstream bug) and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> PHP (Thomas is having look) + Perl (there are bugs against Jerome's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages) modules.
+</I>&gt;<i> perl-Test-Spelling has been taken care of.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> perl-Padre-Plugin-SpellCheck is currently being worked upon upstream,
+</I>&gt;<i> i'll update it as soon as it's done.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> perl-Lingua-Ispell needs to be obsoleted, but i cannot find a
+</I>&gt;<i> task-obsolete package as we talked about - any news about this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> j&#233;r&#244;me
+</I>Thank you Jerome!
+
+Could you also have a look at perl-Text-Aspell?
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Just want to find out if there is any plan to make Cinnamon desktop
+</I>&gt;<i> available for Mageia 2. 
+</I>
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> To recap, I need to put the following files in some package:
+</I>&gt;<i> - /usr/share/gnome-background-properties/mageia.xml
+</I>&gt;<i>   =&gt; mageia-theme-Default ? who owns the directory then?
+</I>
+Planning to ignore the directory ownership.
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+&gt;<i> - <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/g/media/logo/mageia-2011.svg">http://www.mageia.org/g/media/logo/mageia-2011.svg</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>   =&gt; mageia-theme-Default or desktop-common-data ?
+</I>
+Planning to put that in mageia-theme-Default.
+
+&gt;<i> - /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/mageia-theme-Default.override
+</I>&gt;<i>   =&gt; mageia-theme-Default and depend on glib2.0-common?
+</I>
+Planning to make mageia-theme-Default depend on glib2.0-common.
+
+&gt;<i> - (and patch gnome-control-center)
+</I>&gt;<i>   =&gt; not sure if I can :P
+</I>
+My C is limited to copy/paste skills, so this might take a while.
+
+
+As I received no response, I assume proceeding is fine?
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+On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> As announced on blog, &#160;isos are now available on public mirrors.
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/02/21/mageia-2-is-approaching-test-mageia-2-beta-1/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/02/21/mageia-2-is-approaching-test-mageia-2-beta-1/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Still no live cds available
+</I>
+:<i>-/
+</I>
+&gt;<i> but we hope to have it ready in coming
+</I>&gt;<i> days, stay tuned.
+</I>
+Hope they will come soon as...
+
+&gt;<i> Beta stage is just essential for final release. So please take some
+</I>&gt;<i> time for tests and use Bugzilla :)
+</I>
+without a live-iso, I won't be able to have a look - and probably
+quite a few other won't have a look either...
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+    <B>Anne Nicolas</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 22/02/2012 14:41, Christian Lohmaier a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Hi Anne, *,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As announced on blog,  isos are now available on public mirrors.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/02/21/mageia-2-is-approaching-test-mageia-2-beta-1/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/02/21/mageia-2-is-approaching-test-mageia-2-beta-1/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Still no live cds available
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> :-/
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but we hope to have it ready in coming
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> days, stay tuned.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Hope they will come soon as...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Beta stage is just essential for final release. So please take some
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> time for tests and use Bugzilla :)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> without a live-iso, I won't be able to have a look - and probably
+</I>&gt;<i> quite a few other won't have a look either...
+</I>
+We are looking for people to make it possible in time. Join the team !
+
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> ciao
+</I>&gt;<i> Christian
+</I>
+
+-- 
+Anne
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+    <B>Florian Hubold</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Florian Hubold wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 19.02.2012 15:59, schrieb David Walser:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I was looking at that package, which is a collection of drivers for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> some printers, not updated for years
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It is one of the two packages requiring automake1.4, because of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> included	drv_z42
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Looking on <A HREF="http://www.openprinting.org/driver/drv_z42/">http://www.openprinting.org/driver/drv_z42/</A> original
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> website no longer exist, and even if openprinting now hosts it they
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> say &quot;This driver is obsolete. Recommended replacement driver:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gutenprint&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Should we drop it?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Does anyone has enough time to see if other drivers in this package
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> may still be needed?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> And actually, if we install this package.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Also from openprinting, there are security issues fixed in the newest foomatic-filters (needs updated in Mageia 1 and Cauldron, see Bug 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 3979).  They also have a new CUPS filters set that probably needs to be packaged.  Upstream notes on it:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Apple decided to not continue to develop and maintain the CUPS filters and backends which are not used by Mac OS X and moved them to 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> OpenPrinting. They also did not accept the new filters for the PDF-based printing workflow as they are also not used by Mac OS X.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> All these filters we continue to maintain now in one package, the OpenPrinting CUPS Filters and announce here the first stable release of 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this package, versionn 1.0.1.&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As you mentioned it, there are far bigger changes coming than just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> adding a new cups filter package (which is still in beta state AFAIK)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> as that is just smaller fallout from changes explained in below links.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.printing.fsg/2020">http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.printing.fsg/2020</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://cyberelk.net/tim/2012/02/06/cups-1-6-changes-ahead/">http://cyberelk.net/tim/2012/02/06/cups-1-6-changes-ahead/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yikes, thanks for the links Florian.  The future removal of browsing and requirement of avahi is really unfortunate.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So this work will be needed for when we move to CUPS 1.6, which will be after Mageia 2.  Here's a good page that details the work we as a 
+</I>&gt;<i> distro will need to do:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/pdf_as_standard_print_job_format">http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/pdf_as_standard_print_job_format</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>That's just part of the work, and i've already tried to mention that a few times.
+Also in the future for print server discovery avahi would need to run on
+the client and on the server, BTW.
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+Marja van Waes &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">marja11 at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Sounds indeed like there is no urgent reason for a change. Besides, 
+</I>&gt;<i> python-virtualenv users who run both Mageia and Mandriva, or switch 
+</I>&gt;<i> between them, will probably be glad the package behaves the same in both 
+</I>&gt;<i> distro's :)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It's a pity no python-virtualenv users seem interested in this 
+</I>&gt;<i> discussion. There is a (small?) chance they missed it because the 
+</I>&gt;<i> subject line of the first message in the thread didn't mention the 
+</I>&gt;<i> package name, though.
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+To give a bit of context, the bug was already open against Mandriva:
+<A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=50484">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=50484</A>
+Mageia simply inherited Mandriva's policy:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3348">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3348</A>
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+The reason you might not hear much about python-virtualenv users is
+that:
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+1. they are likely to have already fixed their system as I did (i.e.,
+   remove the PYTHONDONTWRITEBYTECODE setting);
+
+2. they are likely to fetch the upstream virtualenv, since it's a
+   trivial package to install.
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>I've enhanced my mga-gnome script to be able to increase the version
+number + reset %mkrel in an existing spec file. The script is meant for
+GNOME related packages/versions!
+
+To e.g. increase boabab to version 3.3.2:
+  # just once:
+  mkdir ~/src ~/bin ~/pkgs
+  cd ~/src
+  svn co svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/mga-gnome/trunk">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/soft/mga-gnome/trunk</A> mga-gnome
+  cd ~/bin
+  ln -s ~/src/mga-gnome mga-gnome
+  # command itself:
+  mga-gnome increase baobab 3.3.2
+
+This will:
+  cd ~/pkgs
+  mgarepo co baobab
+  - checks current version is newer than existing version
+  - do some regexp magic to increase version + reset %mkrel
+  - some verifications for the regexp magic
+  mgarepo sync -d    (downloads the new version)
+  bm -p --nodeps     (check that patches apply)
+
+I want it to also check the version more closely, e.g.:
+ 3.3.x -&gt; 3.3.y : OK (unstable-&gt;unstable)
+ 3.3.x -&gt; 3.4.0 : OK (unstable-&gt;stable)
+ 3.2.x -&gt; 3.2.y : OK (stable-&gt;stable)
+ 3.2.x -&gt; 3.3.y : NOT OK (stable-&gt;unstable)
+
+You might get a few bad looking tracebacks when &quot;mgarepo&quot; or &quot;bm&quot; fails.
+I have to make the output a bit nicer.
+
+Anyway, I've just tried this with a few packages. In future, I might
+automatically even do:
+  mgarepo ci -m &quot;new version&quot;
+  mgarepo submit
+But I want to first do more testing, plus add SHA256 verification (what
+GNOME uses and advises).
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+Regards,
+Olav
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Revision 3012 Author ovitters Date 2012-02-22 17:06:51 +0100 (Wed, 22 Feb
+</I>&gt;<i> 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Add ability to increase the version number of a given package
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Command tries to be careful and does various checks (patches still apply,
+</I>&gt;<i> etc)
+</I>
+Too sad it doesn't support this:
+  %define rel 3
+  %define release %mkrel %rel
+(which is hard anyway and should be rare though it does exist among
+mga packages)
+
+&gt;<i> +def version_cmp(a, b):
+</I>&gt;<i> +    &quot;&quot;&quot;Compares two versions
+</I>&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;<i> +    Returns
+</I>&gt;<i> +      -1 if a &lt; b
+</I>&gt;<i> +      0  if a == b
+</I>&gt;<i> +      1  if a &gt; b
+</I>&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;<i> +    Logic from Bugzilla::Install::Util::vers_cmp&quot;&quot;&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> +    A = re_version.findall(a.lstrip('0'))
+</I>&gt;<i> +    B = re_version.findall(b.lstrip('0'))
+</I>&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;<i> +    while A and B:
+</I>&gt;<i> +        a = A.pop(0)
+</I>&gt;<i> +        b = B.pop(0)
+</I>&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;<i> +        if a == b:
+</I>&gt;<i> +            continue
+</I>&gt;<i> +        elif a == '-':
+</I>&gt;<i> +            return -1
+</I>&gt;<i> +        elif b == '-':
+</I>&gt;<i> +            return 1
+</I>&gt;<i> +        elif a == '.':
+</I>&gt;<i> +            return -1
+</I>&gt;<i> +        elif b == '.':
+</I>&gt;<i> +            return 1
+</I>&gt;<i> +        elif a.isdigit() and b.isdigit():
+</I>&gt;<i> +            c = cmp(a, b) if (a.startswith('0') or b.startswith('0')) else
+</I>&gt;<i> cmp(int(a, 10), int(b, 10))
+</I>&gt;<i> +            if c:
+</I>&gt;<i> +                return c
+</I>&gt;<i> +        else:
+</I>&gt;<i> +            c = cmp(a.upper(), b.upper())
+</I>&gt;<i> +            if c:
+</I>&gt;<i> +                return c
+</I>&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;<i> +    return cmp(len(A), len(B))
+</I>
+Please do not reinvent the whell and do sg like this instead:
+
+import rpm
+
+def compare(t1, t2):
+   # t1 and t2 are tuples of (version, release)
+    v1, r1 = t1
+    v2, r2 = t2
+    return rpm.labelCompare(('1', v1, r1), ('1', v2, r2))
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+<PRE>On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 06:13:12PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 22 February 2012 17:06,  &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Revision 3012 Author ovitters Date 2012-02-22 17:06:51 +0100 (Wed, 22 Feb
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Add ability to increase the version number of a given package
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Command tries to be careful and does various checks (patches still apply,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; etc)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Too sad it doesn't support this:
+</I>&gt;<i>   %define rel 3
+</I>&gt;<i>   %define release %mkrel %rel
+</I>&gt;<i> (which is hard anyway and should be rare though it does exist among
+</I>&gt;<i> mga packages)
+</I>
+I could support that or you can commit something to support this.
+However, I want this mga-gnome to be very reliable. No &quot;hope for the
+best&quot;. IMO, paranoia is best... best to error out if anything might
+appear strange.
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; +def version_cmp(a, b):
+</I>[..]
+&gt;<i> Please do not reinvent the whell and do sg like this instead:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> import rpm
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> def compare(t1, t2):
+</I>&gt;<i>    # t1 and t2 are tuples of (version, release)
+</I>&gt;<i>     v1, r1 = t1
+</I>&gt;<i>     v2, r2 = t2
+</I>&gt;<i>     return rpm.labelCompare(('1', v1, r1), ('1', v2, r2))
+</I>
+Cool! I knew there had to be something like this, but couldn't be
+bothered to investigate. The version_cmp I just copy/pasted from some
+Python code I wrote for GNOME.
+
+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and David W. Hodgins at 22/02/12 04:36 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 04:27:17 -0500, Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is this because the kernel requires it as Requires(pre) and thus it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> doesn't show up? Should it show up?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't know if it should show up for rpm or not, but it works
+</I>&gt;<i> with urpmq ...
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at hodgins</A> /]# rpm -q --whatrequires dracut
+</I>&gt;<i> no package requires dracut
+</I>&gt;<i> [<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at hodgins</A> /]# urpmq --whatrequires dracut
+</I>&gt;<i> dracut
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel-desktop-3.2.6-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel-desktop586-3.2.6-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel-linus-3.2.6-1.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel-linus-3.2.7-1.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel-netbook-3.2.6-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel-rt-3.2.6-0.rt13.1.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel-server-3.2.6-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel-tmb-desktop-3.2.6-1.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel-tmb-desktop586-3.2.6-1.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel-tmb-laptop-3.2.6-1.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel-tmb-server-3.2.6-1.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel-vserver-3.2.6-1.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> kernel-vserver-3.2.7-1.mga2
+</I>
+Yeah this is what Dexter said too, but it's really quite bad that the
+two tools offer the same argument, but they actually work differently.
+See my earlier reply about this tho'.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+<PRE>On 22 February 2012 21:14, wally &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> wally &lt;wally&gt; 1.9.6-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 212291
+</I>&gt;<i> - new version 1.9.6
+</I>&gt;<i> - new major 8
+</I>&gt;<i> - drop unneeded P1
+</I>
+Hard versionated requires are bogus and just defeat the purpose of libification:
+
+installed lib64cogl7-1.9.4-2.mga2.x86_64 is conflicting because of
+unsatisfied cogl-i18n[== 1.9.4-2.mga2]
+(...)
+Some requested packages cannot be installed:
+libcogl7-1.9.4-2.mga2.i586 (due to unsatisfied cogl-i18n[==
+1.9.4-2.mga2], trying to promote typelib(Meta))
+libmutter-gir3.0-3.3.5-1.mga2.i586 (due to conflicts with
+libmutter-private0-3.3.5-1.mga2.i586, trying to promote typelib(Meta))
+libmutter-private0-3.3.5-1.mga2.i586 (due to unsatisfied libcogl.so.7)
+libtotem0-3.3.90-1.mga2.i586 (due to unsatisfied libcogl.so.7)
+Continue installation anyway? (Y/n)
+
+Will be OK next time:
+See <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/cogl/current/SPECS/cogl.spec?r1=212291&amp;r2=212418">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/cogl/current/SPECS/cogl.spec?r1=212291&amp;r2=212418</A>
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hard versionated requires are bogus and just defeat the purpose of libification:
+</I>[..]
+&gt;<i> Will be OK next time:
+</I>&gt;<i> See <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/cogl/current/SPECS/cogl.spec?r1=212291&amp;r2=212418">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/cogl/current/SPECS/cogl.spec?r1=212291&amp;r2=212418</A>
+</I>
+Is it possible to write an rpmlint check for this? If so, could you? :)
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Hard versionated requires are bogus and just defeat the purpose of libification:
+</I>&gt;<i> [..]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Will be OK next time:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/cogl/current/SPECS/cogl.spec?r1=212291&amp;r2=212418">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/cogl/current/SPECS/cogl.spec?r1=212291&amp;r2=212418</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it possible to write an rpmlint check for this? If so, could you? :)
+</I>
+there's at least requires-on-release is here for years...
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+    <B>Remco Rijnders</B> 
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+installed and only locally available? I know how to see the Requires, etc. 
+but have had no luck with the Suggests part of it.
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+A little background: I've removed the Requires and Suggests from a .spec 
+file and instead want to rely on the upstream provided META.yml for this 
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+done before committing it.
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+&gt;<i> This question falls perhaps in the 'silly' category, but I haven't been able
+</I>&gt;<i> to find the answer myself, even though I have searched for it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> How does one check the Suggests provided by a rpm package that is not
+</I>&gt;<i> installed and only locally available? I know how to see the Requires, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i> but have had no luck with the Suggests part of it.
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+&gt;<i> On 22 February 2012 23:33, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hard versionated requires are bogus and just defeat the purpose of libification:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [..]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Will be OK next time:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; See <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/cogl/current/SPECS/cogl.spec?r1=212291&amp;r2=212418">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/cogl/current/SPECS/cogl.spec?r1=212291&amp;r2=212418</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is it possible to write an rpmlint check for this? If so, could you? :)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> there's at least requires-on-release is here for years...
+</I>
+Ah, but it won't prevent packages from being submitted?
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:35:13PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 22 February 2012 23:33, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Hard versionated requires are bogus and just defeat the purpose of libification:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; [..]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; Will be OK next time:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;&gt; See <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/cogl/current/SPECS/cogl.spec?r1=212291&amp;r2=212418">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/cogl/current/SPECS/cogl.spec?r1=212291&amp;r2=212418</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Is it possible to write an rpmlint check for this? If so, could you? :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; there's at least requires-on-release is here for years...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Ah, but it won't prevent packages from being submitted?
+</I>
+If we are sure that every package is clean ( or most of them are ), and
+that someone volunteer to handle the complaint, we can turn it. 
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+But I think this would be better to do the change after mageia 2. 
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+    <B>Jeff Robins</B> 
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+On 02/22/2012 05:44 AM, Anne Nicolas wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 22/02/2012 14:41, Christian Lohmaier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi Anne, *,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As announced on blog,  isos are now available on public mirrors.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/02/21/mageia-2-is-approaching-test-mageia-2-beta-1/">http://blog.mageia.org/en/2012/02/21/mageia-2-is-approaching-test-mageia-2-beta-1/</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Still no live cds available
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> :-/
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but we hope to have it ready in coming
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> days, stay tuned.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hope they will come soon as...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Beta stage is just essential for final release. So please take some
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> time for tests and use Bugzilla :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> without a live-iso, I won't be able to have a look - and probably
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> quite a few other won't have a look either...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> We are looking for people to make it possible in time. Join the team !
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ciao
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Christian
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+How easy should the upgrade from Beta 1 -&gt; Beta 2 -&gt; RC -&gt; Release be?
+
+I upgraded the hardware in my NAS-type server in my house and need to
+install Mageia from scratch (going from 32-bit to dual core 64-bit).  I
+would prefer to install Mageia 2, but I don't want to have to reinstall
+from scratch on each update on the way to Release.
+
+The server isn't being used right now, so I have time to test bugs on it.
+
+- --Jeff
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+&gt;<i> fwang &lt;fwang&gt; 1.9.6-3.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 212479
+</I>&gt;<i> - add requires on gl due to inclusion of GL/gl.h
+</I>
+That is wrong according to upstream:
+<A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669878">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=669878</A>
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+The buildrequire should be added to packages which use gl directly.
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+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 23 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 09:32 +0100, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 11:35:13PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; On 22 February 2012 23:33, Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Hard versionated requires are bogus and just defeat the purpose of libification:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; [..]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Will be OK next time:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; See <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/cogl/current/SPECS/cogl.spec?r1=212291&amp;r2=212418">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/cogl/current/SPECS/cogl.spec?r1=212291&amp;r2=212418</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Is it possible to write an rpmlint check for this? If so, could you? :)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; there's at least requires-on-release is here for years...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Ah, but it won't prevent packages from being submitted?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If we are sure that every package is clean ( or most of them are ), and
+</I>&gt;<i> that someone volunteer to handle the complaint, we can turn it. 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> But I think this would be better to do the change after mageia 2. 
+</I>
+Makes sense to wait, I'll file a RFE. I'll volunteer to fix these after Mageia 2.
+
+Done:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4655">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4655</A>
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 06:13:12PM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 22 February 2012 17:06,&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Revision 3012 Author ovitters Date 2012-02-22 17:06:51 +0100 (Wed, 22 Feb
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2012)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Add ability to increase the version number of a given package
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Command tries to be careful and does various checks (patches still apply,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> etc)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Too sad it doesn't support this:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    %define rel 3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    %define release %mkrel %rel
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (which is hard anyway and should be rare though it does exist among
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mga packages)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I could support that or you can commit something to support this.
+</I>&gt;<i> However, I want this mga-gnome to be very reliable. No &quot;hope for the
+</I>&gt;<i> best&quot;. IMO, paranoia is best... best to error out if anything might
+</I>&gt;<i> appear strange.
+</I>You may be interested in _get_new_version() and  _get_new_release() 
+functions in Youri::Package::RPM::Updater code, and their associated 
+test suite:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.zarb.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/youri/soft/Package-RPM-Updater/trunk/lib/Youri/Package/RPM/Updater.pm?revision=2332&amp;view=markup">http://www.zarb.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/youri/soft/Package-RPM-Updater/trunk/lib/Youri/Package/RPM/Updater.pm?revision=2332&amp;view=markup</A>
+<A HREF="http://www.zarb.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/youri/soft/Package-RPM-Updater/trunk/t/parse.t?revision=2134&amp;view=markup">http://www.zarb.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/youri/soft/Package-RPM-Updater/trunk/t/parse.t?revision=2134&amp;view=markup</A>
+
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +def version_cmp(a, b):
+</I>&gt;<i> [..]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please do not reinvent the whell and do sg like this instead:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> import rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> def compare(t1, t2):
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     # t1 and t2 are tuples of (version, release)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      v1, r1 = t1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      v2, r2 = t2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      return rpm.labelCompare(('1', v1, r1), ('1', v2, r2))
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cool! I knew there had to be something like this, but couldn't be
+</I>&gt;<i> bothered to investigate. The version_cmp I just copy/pasted from some
+</I>&gt;<i> Python code I wrote for GNOME.
+</I>Same hint with is_newer() function in Youri::Check::Test::Updates:
+
+<A HREF="http://www.zarb.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/youri/soft/check/trunk/lib/Youri/Check/Test/Updates.pm?revision=2239&amp;view=markup">http://www.zarb.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/youri/soft/check/trunk/lib/Youri/Check/Test/Updates.pm?revision=2239&amp;view=markup</A>
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+&gt;<i> How easy should the upgrade from Beta 1 -&gt; Beta 2 -&gt; RC -&gt; Release be?
+</I>
+It is not supported, the only upgrade path is MGA1-&gt;MGA2.
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+&gt;<i> would prefer to install Mageia 2, but I don't want to have to reinstall
+</I>&gt;<i> from scratch on each update on the way to Release.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> Name &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: libproxy &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version &#160; &#160; : 0.4.7 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release &#160; &#160; : 4.mga2 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Build Date: Sat Feb 18 20:15:09 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group &#160; &#160; &#160; : System/Libraries &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: 99734 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;License: LGPLv2+
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature &#160; : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager &#160; &#160;: tv &lt;tv&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; : <A HREF="http://code.google.com/p/libproxy/">http://code.google.com/p/libproxy/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary &#160; &#160; : A library handling all the details of proxy configuration
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> libproxy offers the following features:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* extremely small core footprint (&lt; 35K)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* no external dependencies within libproxy core
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160;(libproxy plugins may have dependencies)
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* only 3 functions in the stable external API
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* dynamic adjustment to changing network topology
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* a standard way of dealing with proxy settings across all scenarios
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160;* a sublime sense of joy and accomplishment
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> tv &lt;tv&gt; 0.4.7-4.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 210510
+</I>&gt;<i> - drop libproxy-webkit
+</I>&gt;<i> - drop libproxy-mozjs
+</I>
+Also, why dropping them?
+It means .pac are no longer supported (which can be quite annoying for
+enterprise use...)
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 06:38, Remco Rijnders &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">remco at webconquest.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This question falls perhaps in the 'silly' category, but I haven't been able
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to find the answer myself, even though I have searched for it.
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> How does one check the Suggests provided by a rpm package that is not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installed and only locally available? I know how to see the Requires, etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but have had no luck with the Suggests part of it.
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm -qp --suggests foo.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>The long form would be
+rpm -qp --queryformat &quot;%{SUGGESTS}&quot; foo.rpm
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+You can see all queriable tags via rpm --querytags
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+BTW: You can also use urpmf to query which package from the repos
+suggests a given package/library &quot;foobar&quot; via urpmf --suggests foobar
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+
+--- rpmsrate-raw-source	2012-02-23 14:07:41.946227612 +0100
++++ rpmsrate-raw	2012-02-23 14:07:09.680227605 +0100
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+   4 !CAT_KDE || CAT_GNOME || CAT_LXDE dia
+   4 CAT_GNOME planner 
+   4 !CAT_XFCE !CAT_KDE homebank
+-  4 !CAT_XFCE !CAT_GNOME skrooge
+-  3 CAT_KDE kplato 
++  4 CAT_KDE skrooge
+   3 xpdf gv
+   3 wv ical
+   2 units
+@@ -128,7 +127,6 @@
+ SOUND
+   5 sound-scripts
+   5 CAT_KDE kmix
+-  5 CAT_LXDE aumix
+   3 sox
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+ CAT_AUDIO
+@@ -183,7 +181,7 @@
+   4 CAT_KDE kdeedu4
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+ CAT_EDITORS
+-  4 !CAT_GNOME !CAT_KDE !CAT_XFCE CAT_X emacs
++  4 !CAT_GNOME !CAT_KDE !CAT_XFCE !CAT_LXDE CAT_X emacs
+   4 !CAT_X emacs-nox
+   3 CAT_X vim-X11
+   3 yudit
+@@ -194,6 +192,8 @@
+     5 gedit
+   CAT_XFCE
+     5 mousepad
++  CAT_LXDE
++    5 leafpad
+ 
+ CAT_TEXT_TOOLS
+   5 !LIVE words
+@@ -207,7 +207,6 @@
+ CAT_COMMUNICATIONS
+   5 !LIGHT efax
+   5 ekiga 
+-  4 CAT_LXDE jpilot 
+   2 hylafax-client 
+   2 hylafax-server dip
+   2 lrzsz mgetty mgetty-contrib mgetty-sendfax mgetty-viewfax
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+<PRE>On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 13:32, Manuel Hiebel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">manuel at hiebel.eu</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Maybe there is other things that I have not seen
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --- rpmsrate-raw-source 2012-02-23 14:07:41.946227612 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ rpmsrate-raw &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;2012-02-23 14:07:09.680227605 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -106,8 +106,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; 4 !CAT_KDE || CAT_GNOME || CAT_LXDE dia
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; 4 CAT_GNOME planner
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; 4 !CAT_XFCE !CAT_KDE homebank
+</I>&gt;<i> - &#160;4 !CAT_XFCE !CAT_GNOME skrooge
+</I>&gt;<i> - &#160;3 CAT_KDE kplato
+</I>&gt;<i> + &#160;4 CAT_KDE skrooge
+</I>
+Why do you want to install skrooge under gnome and xfce?
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+<PRE>Le jeudi 23 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 14:10 +0000, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 13:32, Manuel Hiebel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">manuel at hiebel.eu</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Maybe there is other things that I have not seen
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; --- rpmsrate-raw-source 2012-02-23 14:07:41.946227612 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; +++ rpmsrate-raw        2012-02-23 14:07:09.680227605 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; @@ -106,8 +106,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;   4 !CAT_KDE || CAT_GNOME || CAT_LXDE dia
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;   4 CAT_GNOME planner
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;   4 !CAT_XFCE !CAT_KDE homebank
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -  4 !CAT_XFCE !CAT_GNOME skrooge
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; -  3 CAT_KDE kplato
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; +  4 CAT_KDE skrooge
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Why do you want to install skrooge under gnome and xfce?
+</I>
+It's like the other line, &quot;4 CAT_GNOME planner&quot; only in kde, no ?
+(this was fixed by ennael in fact)
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Le jeudi 23 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 14:10 +0000, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 13:32, Manuel Hiebel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">manuel at hiebel.eu</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; Maybe there is other things that I have not seen
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; --- rpmsrate-raw-source 2012-02-23 14:07:41.946227612 +0100
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; +++ rpmsrate-raw &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;2012-02-23 14:07:09.680227605 +0100
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; @@ -106,8 +106,7 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; 4 !CAT_KDE || CAT_GNOME || CAT_LXDE dia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; 4 CAT_GNOME planner
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; &#160; 4 !CAT_XFCE !CAT_KDE homebank
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - &#160;4 !CAT_XFCE !CAT_GNOME skrooge
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - &#160;3 CAT_KDE kplato
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; + &#160;4 CAT_KDE skrooge
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Why do you want to install skrooge under gnome and xfce?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It's like the other line, &quot;4 CAT_GNOME planner&quot; only in kde, no ?
+</I>&gt;<i> (this was fixed by ennael in fact)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Sorry I had misread
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Hard versionated requires are bogus and just defeat the purpose of libification:
+</I>&gt;<i> [..]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Will be OK next time:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See <A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/cogl/current/SPECS/cogl.spec?r1=212291&amp;r2=212418">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/cogl/current/SPECS/cogl.spec?r1=212291&amp;r2=212418</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is it possible to write an rpmlint check for this? If so, could you? :)
+</I>
+BTW in order to fix upgrade, you've to fix building empathy &amp;
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> How does one check the Suggests provided by a rpm package that is not
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> installed and only locally available? I know how to see the Requires, etc.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but have had no luck with the Suggests part of it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rpm -qp --suggests foo.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The long form would be
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm -qp --queryformat &quot;%{SUGGESTS}&quot; foo.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can see all queriable tags via rpm --querytags
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BTW: You can also use urpmf to query which package from the repos
+</I>&gt;<i> suggests a given package/library &quot;foobar&quot; via urpmf --suggests foobar
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Not until that patch is applied:
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+&gt;&gt;<i> tv &lt;tv&gt; 0.4.7-4.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 210510
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - drop libproxy-webkit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - drop libproxy-mozjs
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Also, why dropping them?
+</I>&gt;<i> It means .pac are no longer supported (which can be quite annoying for
+</I>&gt;<i> enterprise use...)
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+One has to be droped since it didn't compile anymore with libxulrunner.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> How easy should the upgrade from Beta 1 -&gt; Beta 2 -&gt; RC -&gt; Release be?
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+</I>&gt;<i> It is not supported, the only upgrade path is MGA1-&gt;MGA2.
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 23 February 2012 13:43, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tv &lt;tv&gt; 0.4.7-4.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 210510
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - drop libproxy-webkit
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - drop libproxy-mozjs
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Also, why dropping them?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It means .pac are no longer supported (which can be quite annoying for
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+</I>&gt;<i> One has to be droped since it didn't compile anymore with libxulrunner.
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+which AFAIK is unmaintained and doesn't work on Windows 7 since
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+I've now stumbled over Rufus, the Reliable USB Formatting Utility
+(with Source) via <A HREF="http://reboot.pro/16374/">http://reboot.pro/16374/</A>
+There are windows binaries available, it doesn't require installation,
+it's faster than most other tools like Unetbootin, there's source available
+and it's GPLv3-licensed. Might this be an option?
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+Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui.
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+Stackfolder and Tomoyo-gui are in the default installation of Mandriva
+2011. Takeoff Launcher is similar to Mandriva's Simple Welcome launcher.
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+Any plans to have these packages in the default install?
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+TIA,
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+    <B>Anne Nicolas</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Just installed beta 1 and I could not find packages for Stackfolder,
+</I>&gt;<i> Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Stackfolder and Tomoyo-gui are in the default installation of Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> 2011. Takeoff Launcher is similar to Mandriva's Simple Welcome launcher.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Any plans to have these packages in the default install?
+</I>
+we will not add it in Mageia as the way it has been developped is just
+not usable for long term on KDE.
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+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> TIA,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> finid
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Le 23/02/2012 19:13, LinuxBSDos.com a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just installed beta 1 and I could not find packages for Stackfolder,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Stackfolder and Tomoyo-gui are in the default installation of Mandriva
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2011. Takeoff Launcher is similar to Mandriva's Simple Welcome launcher.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any plans to have these packages in the default install?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> we will not add it in Mageia as the way it has been developped is just
+</I>&gt;<i> not usable for long term on KDE.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Which one are you referring to? Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher, Tomoyo-gui
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+&gt;&gt;<i> Le 23/02/2012 19:13, LinuxBSDos.com a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just installed beta 1 and I could not find packages for Stackfolder,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Stackfolder and Tomoyo-gui are in the default installation of Mandriva
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011. Takeoff Launcher is similar to Mandriva's Simple Welcome launcher.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any plans to have these packages in the default install?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> we will not add it in Mageia as the way it has been developped is just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> not usable for long term on KDE.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Which one are you referring to? Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher, Tomoyo-gui
+</I>&gt;<i> or all three?
+</I>
+both Stackfolder and Takeoff Launcher are not available anymore in
+public repositories
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> finid
+</I>&gt;<i> 
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 23/02/2012 19:13, LinuxBSDos.com a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just installed beta 1 and I could not find packages for Stackfolder,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Stackfolder and Tomoyo-gui are in the default installation of Mandriva
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011. Takeoff Launcher is similar to Mandriva's Simple Welcome
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> launcher.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Any plans to have these packages in the default install?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> we will not add it in Mageia as the way it has been developped is just
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> not usable for long term on KDE.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Which one are you referring to? Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Tomoyo-gui
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or all three?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> both Stackfolder and Takeoff Launcher are not available anymore in
+</I>&gt;<i> public repositories
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Takeoff is available at
+<A HREF="http://code.google.com/p/takeoff-launcher/source/checkout">http://code.google.com/p/takeoff-launcher/source/checkout</A>
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+    <B>Anne nicolas</B> 
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+While working on debugging isos, we found out that a big cleanning
+should be done on rpmsrate. Below a list of packages non available in
+Mageia. Can you please add a status
+deprecated
+imported
+don't import
+
+so that we can clean this
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+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cleaning_rpmsrate">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cleaning_rpmsrate</A>
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+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While working on debugging isos, we found out that a big cleanning
+</I>&gt;<i> should be done on rpmsrate. Below a list of packages non available in
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia. Can you please add a status
+</I>
+The list seem wrong, it lists available packages
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+# urpmq --use-distrib /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/ -r bc
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+ Le 23 f&#233;vr. 2012 23:41, &quot;Pascal Terjan&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 22:36, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; While working on debugging isos, we found out that a big cleanning
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; should be done on rpmsrate. Below a list of packages non available in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Mageia. Can you please add a status
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The list seem wrong, it lists available packages
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # urpmq --use-distrib /distrib/bootstrap/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/ -r bc
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+    <B>David W. Hodgins</B> 
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+In Mageia 1, which nic is assigned eth0 or eth1 etc, is controlled
+by /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.
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+In beta 1, /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules is not being
+created, although I can't figure out why as
+/usr/lib/libDrakX/network/connection/ethernet.pm has not been
+changed.
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+I've also noticed that dracut doesn't include
+/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules in the initrd,
+if it does exist.
+
+Is there some new method systemd is supposed to be using
+to control the order of nic assignments?
+
+As per <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4352">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4352</A> it
+isn't working.
+
+I can't see what's change to prevent the rule from being created,
+so I don't know which rpm package the bug report should be for.
+
+Can someone who knows this part take a look?
+
+Thanks, Dave Hodgins
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+    <B>You-Cheng Hsieh</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> While working on debugging isos, we found out that a big cleanning
+</I>&gt;<i> should be done on rpmsrate. Below a list of packages non available in
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia. Can you please add a status
+</I>&gt;<i> deprecated
+</I>&gt;<i> imported
+</I>&gt;<i> don't import
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so that we can clean this
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cleaning_rpmsrate">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cleaning_rpmsrate</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Cheers
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Anne
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org">http://www.mageia.org</A>
+</I>
+Hello,
+(Sorry to be off-topic)
+May I propose a little request to add one package in rpmsrate?
+LOCALES&quot;zh_TW&quot; pcmanx-gtk2
+
+I know it's maintained by nobody now; but I will maintain it once I
+become a packager.
+It's small and don't need a lot of dependency (only gtk+2.0). Would be
+very helpful if it's installed by default for zh_TW.
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+&gt;<i> Just installed beta 1 and I could not find packages for Stackfolder,
+</I>Where can the upstream project be found? All you find on the internet
+using a quick search is a Mandriva blog post, an article on pro-linux.de,
+a youtube video and a few links to unofficial opensuse and arch packages.
+&gt;<i> Takeoff Launcher
+</I>Could be added as yet another plasmoid, but please not as default.
+If some one is interested in maintaining it, KDE team?
+and Tomoyo-gui.
+seems not to be active upstream since a year:
+<A HREF="https://github.com/eugeni/tomoyo-gui">https://github.com/eugeni/tomoyo-gui</A>
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+&gt;<i> Stackfolder  and Tomoyo-gui are in the default installation of Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> 2011. Takeoff Launcher is similar to Mandriva's Simple Welcome launcher.
+</I>
+Just because something is present in the Mandriva default installation 
+doiesn't mean we have to care about it.
+ From all I've seen in Mdv2011, there's quite a lot I'm just happy, we 
+don't have here.
+Why does everyone think, a desktop has to look like an android or ios 
+launcher?
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">CAONrEtZX+XUw-tbVMZOAAcp4F35798i5jLzKiwLwWHCOF02qug at mail.gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpm -qp --suggests foo.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The long form would be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rpm -qp --queryformat &quot;%{SUGGESTS}&quot; foo.rpm
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Not until that patch is applied:
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4012">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4012</A>
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+    <B>Anne Nicolas</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 24/02/2012 00:27, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 22:44, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mystification badge will redonner it tomorrow
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If you say so :)
+</I>&gt;<i> I generated the list (138 packages)
+</I>
+I should stop sending message from my phone... :)
+Thanks for fixing
+
+-- 
+Anne
+<A HREF="http://mageia.org">http://mageia.org</A>
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> mitya &lt;mitya&gt; 0.12.1-3.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 213565
+</I>&gt;<i> - Fix build (see GNOME bug #669378)
+</I>
+Cool! Couldn't figure out where the bug was (cogl, vala, libchamplain,
+etc), so nice to see it is magically resolved :)
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> A bunch of GNOME modules now have --enable-systemd configure flags. This
+</I>&gt;<i> will make them use systemd instead of (deprecated ConsoleKit) to track
+</I>&gt;<i> login sessions.
+</I>[..]
+&gt;<i> These seem to be compile time checks. Meaning: if --enable-systemd is
+</I>&gt;<i> added to ./configure, the functionality won't work on sysvinit. I am not
+</I>&gt;<i> sure exactly what will break under sysvinit. The bugreports to contain
+</I>&gt;<i> some discussion though.
+</I>
+Update
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+Apparently some of the GNOME modules automatically fall back to
+ConsoleKit even with compiled with --enable-systemd. Only a few GNOME
+modules do not fallback (at runtime). I talked to someone from Arch
+(heftig) who wants to make all GNOME modules automatically fall back to
+ConsoleKit.
+Arch will default to sysvinit with an option to choose systemd. 'Heftig'
+would add the bugs (patches) he'll file to the existing systemd tracker
+bug (@ GNOME Bugzilla).
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+I think it is good to wait until after Mageia 2. This as we haven't been
+using the systemd support up to now, so it might break things. Further,
+I don't know when heftig will have all his patches ready.
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+Olav
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+more, I was annoyed with an unuseful bunch of rpm in rpmdrake which make the 
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+in  &quot;[Cooker] Multilib next steps?&quot;, the only reason to run in 32 bit mode is 
+legacy binaries that cannot be rebuilt.
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+IMO, the last useful binary was flashplugin, now the adobe 64bit binary works 
+fine. Is it still useful to keep this outgrowth alive?
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+Pierre Jarillon - <A HREF="http://pjarillon.free.fr/">http://pjarillon.free.fr/</A>
+Vice-pr&#233;sident de l'ABUL : <A HREF="http://abul.org">http://abul.org</A>
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+&gt;<i> I have just installed Mga2b1 x86_64 and it is already a great distro. But once
+</I>&gt;<i> more, I was annoyed with an unuseful bunch of rpm in rpmdrake which make the
+</I>&gt;<i> list less readable. For a beginner, this is more annoying.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, I have unselected Core 32 bit and everything seams to be ok. As pcpa said
+</I>&gt;<i> in  &quot;[Cooker] Multilib next steps?&quot;, the only reason to run in 32 bit mode is
+</I>&gt;<i> legacy binaries that cannot be rebuilt.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IMO, the last useful binary was flashplugin, now the adobe 64bit binary works
+</I>&gt;<i> fine. Is it still useful to keep this outgrowth alive?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I disagree. I need a binary from 32bit nonfree.. there is also popular 
+Skype 32bit. I think wine is using 32bit packages too.
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+&gt;<i> I have just installed Mga2b1 x86_64 and it is already a great distro. But once
+</I>&gt;<i> more, I was annoyed with an unuseful bunch of rpm in rpmdrake which make the
+</I>&gt;<i> list less readable. For a beginner, this is more annoying.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, I have unselected Core 32 bit and everything seams to be ok. As pcpa said
+</I>&gt;<i> in  &quot;[Cooker] Multilib next steps?&quot;, the only reason to run in 32 bit mode is
+</I>&gt;<i> legacy binaries that cannot be rebuilt.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IMO, the last useful binary was flashplugin, now the adobe 64bit binary works
+</I>&gt;<i> fine. Is it still useful to keep this outgrowth alive?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Cooker != cauldron. We still have skype and probably many other packages that need 32-bit 
+libs. So disabling Core 32 doesn't sound as a good plan to me.
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+Sander
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+</I>&gt;<i> more, I was annoyed with an unuseful bunch of rpm in rpmdrake which make the 
+</I>&gt;<i> list less readable. For a beginner, this is more annoying.
+</I>
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have just installed Mga2b1 x86_64 and it is already a great distro. But
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; once more, I was annoyed with an unuseful bunch of rpm in rpmdrake which
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; make the list less readable. For a beginner, this is more annoying.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I have also noticed that some people are confused by x86_64 and i586
+</I>&gt;<i> packages in rpmdrake. I think rpmdrake should only show x86_64 packages
+</I>&gt;<i> on x86_64 by default.
+</I>
+This is a good solution. Another, more complicated, is to ask for enabling 
+32bit mirror when needed by dependances.
+
+I understand that Skype is still a 32bit program, but what esle? Few wifi 
+adapters?
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+-- 
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+Vice-pr&#233;sident de l'ABUL : <A HREF="http://abul.org">http://abul.org</A>
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+&gt;<i> I have just installed Mga2b1 x86_64 and it is already a great distro. But
+</I>&gt;<i> once more, I was annoyed with an unuseful bunch of rpm in rpmdrake which
+</I>&gt;<i> make the list less readable.
+</I>
+Then rpmdrake shouldn't be showing libraries by default.
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+&gt;<i> For a beginner, this is more annoying.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So, I have unselected Core 32 bit and everything seams to be ok. As pcpa
+</I>&gt;<i> said in  &quot;[Cooker] Multilib next steps?&quot;, the only reason to run in 32 bit
+</I>&gt;<i> mode is legacy binaries that cannot be rebuilt.
+</I>
+Or to run wine on x86_64.
+Or to run other proprietary applications/libraries provided by vendors (not 
+necessarily apps we have in non-free).
+
+IMHO, Mandriva is going backwards in this regard.
+
+$ rpm -qa --qf '%{ARCH} %{NAME}\n'|grep -Ev '(^x86_64|noarch|i586 lib|
+\(none\))'
+i586 wine32
+i586 opera
+i586 googleearth
+i586 playonlinux
+i386 teamviewer6
+i586 skype
+i586 acroread
+i586 wine
+i386 oracle-xe
+i586 python-psyco
+i586 wine-gecko
+i386 ICAClient
+
+&gt;<i> IMO, the last useful binary was flashplugin, now the adobe 64bit binary
+</I>&gt;<i> works fine. Is it still useful to keep this outgrowth alive?
+</I>
+Provide good, in-distro documentation on how to resolve 32-bit dependencies, 
+or IMHO removing the 32bit repos is a regression. We are a *very* long way 
+from adequate documentation.
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+Regards,
+Buchan
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have just installed Mga2b1 x86_64 and it is already a great distro. But once
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> more, I was annoyed with an unuseful bunch of rpm in rpmdrake which make the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> list less readable. For a beginner, this is more annoying.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have also noticed that some people are confused by x86_64 and i586
+</I>&gt;<i> packages in rpmdrake. I think rpmdrake should only show x86_64 packages
+</I>&gt;<i> on x86_64 by default.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Afaik tv has &quot;fixed&quot; it now so it lists x86_64 before i586
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+New dracut. Should help fix graphical issues experienced after switching
+to xz compressed kernel modules (KMS modules were not include in the
+initramfs and were sometimes not loaded properly when the real fs kicked
+in).
+
+The other big change here is to automatically generate a much bigger
+initramfs when doing an upgrade from mga1. This will include a lot more
+stuff (e.g. lvm, raid etc) that may or may not be needed on a given
+setup, but until you boot with dracut you cannot generate an initramfs
+that will be able to detect only what is needed for boot.
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+People testing this type of setup would be much appreciated.
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+Cheers
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+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> In Mageia 1, which nic is assigned eth0 or eth1 etc, is controlled
+</I>&gt;<i> by /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> In beta 1, /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules is not being
+</I>&gt;<i> created, although I can't figure out why as
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/lib/libDrakX/network/connection/ethernet.pm has not been
+</I>&gt;<i> changed.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I've also noticed that dracut doesn't include
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules in the initrd,
+</I>&gt;<i> if it does exist.
+</I>
+Why would it be needed in the initrd unless you actually load the
+network modules too (this is possible - see the network module in
+dracut) but it's not enabled by default (except in non-hostonly mode and
+I agree it should probably copy them in that case... I can make this so).
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+That said, I'd also be tempted to not include the network module even in
+non-hostonly mode for now... perhaps disable the network module when run
+via the mkinitrd wrapper... that would likely solve any issues with it
+being included in upgrades etc.
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+&gt;<i> Is there some new method systemd is supposed to be using
+</I>&gt;<i> to control the order of nic assignments?
+</I>
+Not really no, but perhaps you're now using NetworkManager and it's
+somehow not updating the persistent rules?
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+Col
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+&gt;<i> nicolas vigier skrev 24.2.2012 13:14:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have just installed Mga2b1 x86_64 and it is already a great distro.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But once
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more, I was annoyed with an unuseful bunch of rpm in rpmdrake which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> make the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> list less readable. For a beginner, this is more annoying.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have also noticed that some people are confused by x86_64 and i586
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages in rpmdrake. I think rpmdrake should only show x86_64 packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on x86_64 by default.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Afaik tv has &quot;fixed&quot; it now so it lists x86_64 before i586
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
+Alot of noarch packages end up in Core 32 bit I think too. I totally 
+agree with Nicolas about showing only 64 bit packages.
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+&gt;<i> On 24/02/12 11:39, Thomas Backlund wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> nicolas vigier skrev 24.2.2012 13:14:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have just installed Mga2b1 x86_64 and it is already a great distro.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> But once
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> more, I was annoyed with an unuseful bunch of rpm in rpmdrake which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> make the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> list less readable. For a beginner, this is more annoying.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have also noticed that some people are confused by x86_64 and i586
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> packages in rpmdrake. I think rpmdrake should only show x86_64 packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> on x86_64 by default.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Afaik tv has &quot;fixed&quot; it now so it lists x86_64 before i586
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -- 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Alot of noarch packages end up in Core 32 bit I think too. I totally
+</I>&gt;<i> agree with Nicolas about showing only 64 bit packages.
+</I>
+noarch packages should be available in both, but as a quirk urpmi and
+friends sometimes prefer downloading them via the 32 bit repo. If the
+repo was removed it should find them via the 64 bit repo happily.
+
+Col
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+-- 
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+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have just installed Mga2b1 x86_64 and it is already a great distro. But
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; once more, I was annoyed with an unuseful bunch of rpm in rpmdrake which
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; make the list less readable. For a beginner, this is more annoying.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I have also noticed that some people are confused by x86_64 and i586
+</I>&gt;<i> packages in rpmdrake. 
+</I>
+Maybe instead rpmdrake should only show one entry in the table per package 
+name, and in the detail, show releases and architectures, allowing the user to 
+choose, but defaulting to e.g. x86_64 on x86_64, and allowing the user to 
+specify their preference for non-free, tainted etc.?
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+&gt;<i> I think rpmdrake should only show x86_64 packages
+</I>&gt;<i> on x86_64 by default.
+</I>
+So, rpmdrake shouldn't show get-skype or wine32?
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+That sounds less usable to me.
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+Buchan Milne
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net</A>&gt; wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think rpmdrake should only show x86_64 packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on x86_64 by default.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> So, rpmdrake shouldn't show get-skype or wine32?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> That sounds less usable to me.
+</I>
+I guess it could hide 32-bit packages when there's a 64-bit counterpart.
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+    <B>Buchan Milne</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:26:04 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> Buchan Milne
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I think rpmdrake should only show x86_64 packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; on x86_64 by default.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So, rpmdrake shouldn't show get-skype or wine32?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; That sounds less usable to me.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess it could hide 32-bit packages when there's a 64-bit counterpart.
+</I>&gt;<i> (or gray them out, or something)
+</I>
+That is similar to what I said in the part you cut out, but it doesn't provide 
+any benefit for packages that appear in multiple 'sections', e.g. a tainted vs 
+free version of vlc or something.
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+<PRE>Buchan Milne a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Friday, 24 February 2012 13:14:30 nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I have just installed Mga2b1 x86_64 and it is already a great distro. But
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> once more, I was annoyed with an unuseful bunch of rpm in rpmdrake which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> make the list less readable. For a beginner, this is more annoying.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>        
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have also noticed that some people are confused by x86_64 and i586
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages in rpmdrake.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe instead rpmdrake should only show one entry in the table per package
+</I>&gt;<i> name, and in the detail, show releases and architectures, allowing the user to
+</I>&gt;<i> choose, but defaulting to e.g. x86_64 on x86_64, and allowing the user to
+</I>&gt;<i> specify their preference for non-free, tainted etc.?
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>
+I think that is the way to go for x86_64.
+For non-free, tainted, etc, maybe an option to show all or selected 
+preference ?
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> I think rpmdrake should only show x86_64 packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on x86_64 by default.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;<i> So, rpmdrake shouldn't show get-skype or wine32?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That sounds less usable to me.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards,
+</I>&gt;<i> Buchan
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>
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+Andr&#233;
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+</I>&gt;<i> noarch packages should be available in both, but as a quirk urpmi and
+</I>&gt;<i> friends sometimes prefer downloading them via the 32 bit repo. If the
+</I>&gt;<i> repo was removed it should find them via the 64 bit repo happily.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Afaik tv fixed this recently, so it will prerfer noarch from x86_64 repo 
+on x86_64 installs
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+<PRE>On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:37:48 +0200
+Buchan Milne
+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On Friday, 24 February 2012 14:30:10 Antoine Pitrou wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 14:26:04 +0200
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Buchan Milne
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; I think rpmdrake should only show x86_64 packages
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; on x86_64 by default.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; So, rpmdrake shouldn't show get-skype or wine32?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; That sounds less usable to me.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I guess it could hide 32-bit packages when there's a 64-bit counterpart.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; (or gray them out, or something)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> That is similar to what I said in the part you cut out, [...]
+</I>
+Woops, sorry for that, I've been too quick in reading.
+
+Regards
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+Antoine.
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+&gt;<i> Colin Guthrie skrev 24.2.2012 14:13:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> noarch packages should be available in both, but as a quirk urpmi and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> friends sometimes prefer downloading them via the 32 bit repo. If the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> repo was removed it should find them via the 64 bit repo happily.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Afaik tv fixed this recently, so it will prerfer noarch from x86_64 repo
+</I>&gt;<i> on x86_64 installs
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>
+Thannkyou tv!
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+&gt;<i> On Friday, 24 February 2012 13:14:30 nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Fri, 24 Feb 2012, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; I have just installed Mga2b1 x86_64 and it is already a great distro. But
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; once more, I was annoyed with an unuseful bunch of rpm in rpmdrake which
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; make the list less readable. For a beginner, this is more annoying.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have also noticed that some people are confused by x86_64 and i586
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; packages in rpmdrake. 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe instead rpmdrake should only show one entry in the table per package 
+</I>&gt;<i> name, and in the detail, show releases and architectures, allowing the user to 
+</I>&gt;<i> choose, but defaulting to e.g. x86_64 on x86_64, and allowing the user to 
+</I>&gt;<i> specify their preference for non-free, tainted etc.?
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+Yes I think that would be nice. And only showing one entry for multiple
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+&gt;<i> Hi there
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+</I>&gt;<i> While working on debugging isos, we found out that a big cleanning
+</I>&gt;<i> should be done on rpmsrate. Below a list of packages non available in
+</I>&gt;<i> Mageia. Can you please add a status
+</I>&gt;<i> deprecated
+</I>&gt;<i> imported
+</I>&gt;<i> don't import
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+</I>&gt;<i> so that we can clean this
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cleaning_rpmsrate">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cleaning_rpmsrate</A>
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+I guess tetex-latex should be replaced by texlive, not removed?
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+It isn't very clear to me if listing it in &quot;Deprecated / Do not import&quot;
+means it would be removed, which would be wrong AFAICS. It should rather
+be replaced.
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+Hm, does rpmsrate work for Provides or is it for names only? Just
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+installing texlive instead).
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+&gt;<i> 24.02.2012 00:36, Anne nicolas kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> While working on debugging isos, we found out that a big cleanning
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> should be done on rpmsrate. Below a list of packages non available in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia. Can you please add a status
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> deprecated
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> imported
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> don't import
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> so that we can clean this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cleaning_rpmsrate">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cleaning_rpmsrate</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess tetex-latex should be replaced by texlive, not removed?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It isn't very clear to me if listing it in &quot;Deprecated / Do not import&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> means it would be removed, which would be wrong AFAICS. It should rather
+</I>&gt;<i> be replaced.
+</I>
+Good point, feel free to add a section and move them there :)
+
+&gt;<i> Hm, does rpmsrate work for Provides or is it for names only? Just
+</I>&gt;<i> wondering if tetex-latex entry is broken or if it works properly (by
+</I>&gt;<i> installing texlive instead).
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 14:22, Anssi Hannula &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anssi at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 24.02.2012 00:36, Anne nicolas kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> While working on debugging isos, we found out that a big cleanning
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> should be done on rpmsrate. Below a list of packages non available in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Mageia. Can you please add a status
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> deprecated
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> imported
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> don't import
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> so that we can clean this
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cleaning_rpmsrate">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cleaning_rpmsrate</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I guess tetex-latex should be replaced by texlive, not removed?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It isn't very clear to me if listing it in &quot;Deprecated / Do not import&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> means it would be removed, which would be wrong AFAICS. It should rather
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be replaced.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Good point, feel free to add a section and move them there :)
+</I>
+Done.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Hm, does rpmsrate work for Provides or is it for names only? Just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wondering if tetex-latex entry is broken or if it works properly (by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installing texlive instead).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hm, does rpmsrate work for Provides or is it for names only? Just
+</I>&gt;<i> wondering if tetex-latex entry is broken or if it works properly (by
+</I>&gt;<i> installing texlive instead).
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+&gt;<i> I have just installed Mga2b1 x86_64 and it is already a great distro. But once
+</I>&gt;<i> more, I was annoyed with an unuseful bunch of rpm in rpmdrake which make the
+</I>&gt;<i> list less readable. For a beginner, this is more annoying.
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+</I>&gt;<i> So, I have unselected Core 32 bit and everything seams to be ok. As pcpa said
+</I>&gt;<i> in &#160;&quot;[Cooker] Multilib next steps?&quot;, the only reason to run in 32 bit mode is
+</I>&gt;<i> legacy binaries that cannot be rebuilt.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> IMO, the last useful binary was flashplugin, now the adobe 64bit binary works
+</I>&gt;<i> fine. Is it still useful to keep this outgrowth alive?
+</I>
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+Ony may want to run the 32bit version of some program because it eat less
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+&gt;<i> On Friday, 24 February 2012 13:09:45 Pierre Jarillon wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have just installed Mga2b1 x86_64 and it is already a great distro. But
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> once more, I was annoyed with an unuseful bunch of rpm in rpmdrake which
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> make the list less readable.
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+</I>&gt;<i> Then rpmdrake shouldn't be showing libraries by default.
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+&gt;<i> noarch packages should be available in both, but as a quirk urpmi and
+</I>&gt;<i> friends sometimes prefer downloading them via the 32 bit repo. If the
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+On 02/24/2012 09:27 AM, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 24 February 2012 13:13, Colin Guthrie&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> noarch packages should be available in both, but as a quirk urpmi and
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+&gt;<i> Yes I think that would be nice. And only showing one entry for multiple
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+&gt;<i>  I think wine is using 32bit packages too.
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+I think people who are able to use wine ( who is far from being fool
+proof enough ) are also able to read a doc explaining how to enable 32
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+On 02/23/2012 07:37 AM, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 23 February 2012 12:00, zezinho &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lists.jjorge at free.fr</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> How easy should the upgrade from Beta 1 -&gt; Beta 2 -&gt; RC -&gt; Release be?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It is not supported, the only upgrade path is MGA1-&gt;MGA2.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> But it should work.
+</I>
+I installed Mageia 2 Beta 1 on the computer from scratch.
+
+I have had some problems so far:
+1) I did the install from a flash drive using the x86_64 ISO.
+   - I could not install any packages after installation
+   - I finally figured out that I had to mount the flash ISO
+      partition, but I don't think it was intuitive at first
+   - Is there a way to detect installation from flash and let the
+      user know that the ISO partition must be mounted?
+   - I don't remember having to explicitly mount the DVD in th past
+   - I never removed the flash after install, which is probably why I
+      didn't think about it
+
+2) The sound card section showed up twice on the page of other
+      installation settings
+   - Not sure what this page is called, but it lets you setup the
+      network, video, proxy, etc
+   - The second instance was directly after the first
+   - I'm pretty sure I don't have 2 sound cards, but it is an
+      integrated motherboard so I guess it's possible
+      - <A HREF="http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_CPU_on_Board/E35M1M_PRO/">http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_CPU_on_Board/E35M1M_PRO/</A>
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+3) I installed a second NIC in the machine and the eth0 and eth1 aliases
+      keep sometimes switch between the two
+   - I already saw a bug report about this, but it is really annoying
+
+4) dhclient isn't run automatically.  I have to run it manually
+   - Network Center is set for automatic IP and dhclient is set as the
+      DHCP client
+
+5) After installing the SSh Server I was unable to connect remotely
+   - I had to add &quot;SSHD: ALL&quot; to /etc/hosts.allow
+   - I set security to server when installing the distro
+
+6) radeon-firmware Bug 1471
+   - This has hit me on 3 of my 4 machines (Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 Beta
+   - It was made worse by my inability to install ssh-server blindly
+      - I tried to install it by switching to a terminal, logging in
+         and using urpmi.  It didn't work because of (1)
+      - (3) and (4) didn't help either
+   - The work-around from the Errata didn't work because the firmware
+      wasn't installed
+      - installing the firmware automatically rebuilt the initrd
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+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 24 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 12:12 +0100, Kamil Rytarowski a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   I think wine is using 32bit packages too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think people who are able to use wine ( who is far from being fool
+</I>&gt;<i> proof enough ) are also able to read a doc explaining how to enable 32
+</I>&gt;<i> bits repositories, and wine by itself is IMHO not a good reason to bloat
+</I>&gt;<i> installation and interface for the rest of us.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+So maybe we should still add the 32bit core medias, but keep them 
+disabled by default...
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+</I>&gt;<i> 3) I installed a second NIC in the machine and the eth0 and eth1 aliases
+</I>&gt;<i>      keep sometimes switch between the two
+</I>&gt;<i>   - I already saw a bug report about this, but it is really annoying
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 4) dhclient isn't run automatically.  I have to run it manually
+</I>&gt;<i>   - Network Center is set for automatic IP and dhclient is set as the
+</I>&gt;<i>      DHCP client
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I took a look at &quot;ifcfg-eth0&quot; and &quot;ifcfg-eth1&quot;.  It looks like eth0 is
+setup properly, but eth1 has minimal information.  They are both setup the
+same way in Network Center.
+eth1 only has the following:
+DEVICE=eth1
+BOOTPROTO=dhcp
+NETMASK=255.255.255.0
+ONBOOT=yes
+METRIC=10
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+Also, &quot;service network stop/start/etc&quot; doesn't affect eth0, but it does
+affect eth1 and lo.
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+&gt;<i> Michael Scherer skrev 24.2.2012 19:14:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le vendredi 24 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 12:12 +0100, Kamil Rytarowski a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>   I think wine is using 32bit packages too.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think people who are able to use wine ( who is far from being fool
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> proof enough ) are also able to read a doc explaining how to enable 32
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bits repositories, and wine by itself is IMHO not a good reason to bloat
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> installation and interface for the rest of us.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So maybe we should still add the 32bit core medias, but keep them 
+</I>&gt;<i> disabled by default...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So it would be a few clicks away...
+</I>
+That would be a lot more user friendly.
+(It is a lot more than just wine.)
+
+&gt;<i> -- 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thomas
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>-- 
+Andr&#233;
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+&gt;<i> No.
+</I>&gt;<i> Ony may want to run the 32bit version of some program because it eat less
+</I>&gt;<i> memory (eg: firefox)
+</I>
+I agree. If I try to summary all this discuss, we should :
+- default to disable 32b on x86_64
+- only show latest and best &quot;vlc&quot; : only show tainted version if tainted repo 
+is avalaible, only show latest update if some versions have been pushed
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+End users that want a 32bit version should know how to activate 32b repos.
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+&gt;<i> End users that want a 32bit version should know how to activate 32b repos.
+</I>&gt;<i> The same for wine32.
+</I>Sorry, but i can't agree. Why is it so bad if 32-bit Core is enabled? Hide 32-bit packages 
+when there is 64-bit package too. But don't break usability. get-skype is noarch package. 
+That means it is in 64-bit nonfree too. So user could find it. Now user can find it but 
+can't install it. That is just stupid. And skype is used a lot. There are probably more 
+packages that depend on 32-bit libs.
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+    <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B> 
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+I have updated Cauldron on several boxes, all x86-64 went ok and now I
+even got rid of libcogl7, everything updated.
+But on i586 update is sill blocked for some packages, as it looks like
+gnome-themes-standard-3.3.90.1 for i586 got lost in the ether:
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+Some requested packages cannot be installed:
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+adwaita-gtk2-theme-3.3.90.1-1.mga2.i586 (in order to keep gnome-themes-standard-3.3.5.1-1.mga2.i586)
+adwaita-gtk3-theme-3.3.90.1-1.mga2.i586 (in order to keep gnome-themes-standard-3.3.5.1-1.mga2.i586)
+Continue installation anyway? (Y/n)
+
+BS error ? Mirroring ?
+can you please resubmit ?
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+TIA
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+&gt;<i> Sorry, but i can't agree. Why is it so bad if 32-bit Core is enabled? Hide
+</I>&gt;<i> 32-bit packages when there is 64-bit package too. But don't break
+</I>&gt;<i> usability. get-skype is noarch package. That means it is in 64-bit nonfree
+</I>&gt;<i> too. So user could find it. Now user can find it but can't install it.
+</I>&gt;<i> That is just stupid. And skype is used a lot. There are probably more
+</I>&gt;<i> packages that depend on 32-bit libs.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
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+Shouldn't get-skype be 32bit if it needs 32bit libs?
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+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 24 f&#233;vrier 2012 22:25:39, Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry, but i can't agree. Why is it so bad if 32-bit Core is enabled? Hide
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 32-bit packages when there is 64-bit package too. But don't break
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> usability. get-skype is noarch package. That means it is in 64-bit nonfree
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> too. So user could find it. Now user can find it but can't install it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That is just stupid. And skype is used a lot. There are probably more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages that depend on 32-bit libs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shouldn't get-skype be 32bit if it needs 32bit libs?
+</I>Yes it is.
+
+I think there is a missing something. I'm actually using --all-media 
+option when adding a mirror and it gives me only CORE, why not TAINTED 
+and NONFREE?
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+&gt;<i> The other big change here is to automatically generate a much bigger
+</I>&gt;<i> initramfs when doing an upgrade from mga1. This will include a lot more
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+I just tried it running dracut in a chroot from mga1, and got the
+bigger initramfs.
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+or swap, etc.
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+I also still get the pata_acpi loading before pata_via, which makes my
+hard drives hd? instead of sd?, and stops /dev/sr0 from being created.
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+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+    <B>Jani V&#228;limaa</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hi..
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have updated Cauldron on several boxes, all x86-64 went ok and now I
+</I>&gt;<i> even got rid of libcogl7, everything updated.
+</I>&gt;<i> But on i586 update is sill blocked for some packages, as it looks like
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome-themes-standard-3.3.90.1 for i586 got lost in the ether:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some requested packages cannot be installed:
+</I>&gt;<i> adwaita-cursor-theme-3.3.90.1-1.mga2.noarch (in order to keep
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome-themes-standard-3.3.5.1-1.mga2.i586)
+</I>&gt;<i> adwaita-gtk2-theme-3.3.90.1-1.mga2.i586 (in order to keep
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome-themes-standard-3.3.5.1-1.mga2.i586)
+</I>&gt;<i> adwaita-gtk3-theme-3.3.90.1-1.mga2.i586 (in order to keep
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome-themes-standard-3.3.5.1-1.mga2.i586)
+</I>&gt;<i> Continue installation anyway? (Y/n)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> BS error ? Mirroring ?
+</I>&gt;<i> can you please resubmit ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Should be fixed now.
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+&gt;<i> The other big change here is to automatically generate a much bigger
+</I>&gt;<i> initramfs when doing an upgrade from mga1. This will include a lot more
+</I>&gt;<i> stuff (e.g. lvm, raid etc) that may or may not be needed on a given
+</I>&gt;<i> setup, but until you boot with dracut you cannot generate an initramfs
+</I>&gt;<i> that will be able to detect only what is needed for boot.
+</I>
+Looking at the current version of the init script, it's clear
+what the problem is ...
+
+     check_finished &amp;&amp; break
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+     udevsettle
+
+     check_finished &amp;&amp; break
+
+The above statement will always be true on a single core
+system, so the following code never gets executed.
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+     if [ -f $hookdir/initqueue/work ]; then
+         rm $hookdir/initqueue/work
+     fi
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+     for job in $hookdir/initqueue/*.sh; do
+         [ -e &quot;$job&quot; ] || break
+         job=$job . $job
+         check_finished &amp;&amp; break 2
+     done
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+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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+I'm going to add a volume mixer for a default desktop in Window Maker. 
+What is the name of the binary of the gnome mixer applet? I am looking 
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+<PRE>Op zaterdag 25 februari 2012 08:35:11 schreef David W. Hodgins:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:42:01 -0500, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; 
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; The other big change here is to automatically generate a much bigger
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; initramfs when doing an upgrade from mga1. This will include a lot more
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; stuff (e.g. lvm, raid etc) that may or may not be needed on a given
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; setup, but until you boot with dracut you cannot generate an initramfs
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that will be able to detect only what is needed for boot.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Looking at the current version of the init script, it's clear
+</I>&gt;<i> what the problem is ...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>      check_finished &amp;&amp; break
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>      udevsettle
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>      check_finished &amp;&amp; break
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The above statement will always be true on a single core
+</I>&gt;<i> system, so the following code never gets executed.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>      if [ -f $hookdir/initqueue/work ]; then
+</I>&gt;<i>          rm $hookdir/initqueue/work
+</I>&gt;<i>      fi
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>      for job in $hookdir/initqueue/*.sh; do
+</I>&gt;<i>          [ -e &quot;$job&quot; ] || break
+</I>&gt;<i>          job=$job . $job
+</I>&gt;<i>          check_finished &amp;&amp; break 2
+</I>&gt;<i>      done
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>
+
+maybe 
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+check_finished &amp;&amp; break
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+<PRE>Op vrijdag 24 februari 2012 19:59:01 schreef Jeff Robins:
+[...]
+&gt;<i> 1) I did the install from a flash drive using the x86_64 ISO.
+</I>&gt;<i>    - I could not install any packages after installation
+</I>&gt;<i>    - I finally figured out that I had to mount the flash ISO
+</I>&gt;<i>       partition, but I don't think it was intuitive at first
+</I>&gt;<i>    - Is there a way to detect installation from flash and let the
+</I>&gt;<i>       user know that the ISO partition must be mounted?
+</I>&gt;<i>    - I don't remember having to explicitly mount the DVD in th past
+</I>&gt;<i>    - I never removed the flash after install, which is probably why I
+</I>&gt;<i>       didn't think about it
+</I>
+for cdrom media, it complains about mounting it, i guess it could do the same 
+for unmounted partitions/nonexistant mount flash points?
+
+&gt;<i> 2) The sound card section showed up twice on the page of other
+</I>&gt;<i>       installation settings
+</I>&gt;<i>    - Not sure what this page is called, but it lets you setup the
+</I>&gt;<i>       network, video, proxy, etc
+</I>&gt;<i>    - The second instance was directly after the first
+</I>&gt;<i>    - I'm pretty sure I don't have 2 sound cards, but it is an
+</I>&gt;<i>       integrated motherboard so I guess it's possible
+</I>&gt;<i>       - <A HREF="http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_CPU_on_Board/E35M1M_PRO/">http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_CPU_on_Board/E35M1M_PRO/</A>
+</I>
+you could've accidentally clicked on it twice? is this reproducable? after 
+install, check in /proc/snd/cards to see how many audio chips you have?
+
+&gt;<i> 3) I installed a second NIC in the machine and the eth0 and eth1 aliases
+</I>&gt;<i>       keep sometimes switch between the two
+</I>&gt;<i>    - I already saw a bug report about this, but it is really annoying
+</I>
+that's definately an irritating bug, can you refer us to the bug report?
+
+&gt;<i> 4) dhclient isn't run automatically.  I have to run it manually
+</I>&gt;<i>    - Network Center is set for automatic IP and dhclient is set as the
+</I>&gt;<i>       DHCP client
+</I>
+this is likely related to 3
+
+&gt;<i> 5) After installing the SSh Server I was unable to connect remotely
+</I>&gt;<i>    - I had to add &quot;SSHD: ALL&quot; to /etc/hosts.allow
+</I>&gt;<i>    - I set security to server when installing the distro
+</I>
+that's a feature
+
+&gt;<i> 6) radeon-firmware Bug 1471
+</I>&gt;<i>    - This has hit me on 3 of my 4 machines (Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 Beta
+</I>&gt;<i>    - It was made worse by my inability to install ssh-server blindly
+</I>&gt;<i>       - I tried to install it by switching to a terminal, logging in
+</I>&gt;<i>          and using urpmi.  It didn't work because of (1)
+</I>&gt;<i>       - (3) and (4) didn't help either
+</I>&gt;<i>    - The work-around from the Errata didn't work because the firmware
+</I>&gt;<i>       wasn't installed
+</I>&gt;<i>       - installing the firmware automatically rebuilt the initrd
+</I>
+there was a discussion about nonfree stuff in installation media, but i donno 
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+&gt;<i> Hello!
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+</I>&gt;<i> I'm going to add a volume mixer for a default desktop in Window Maker.
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the name of the binary of the gnome mixer applet? I am looking
+</I>&gt;<i> for something modern against pulseaudio.
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+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 24 f&#233;vrier 2012 22:25:39, Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry, but i can't agree. Why is it so bad if 32-bit Core is enabled? Hide
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 32-bit packages when there is 64-bit package too. But don't break
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> usability. get-skype is noarch package. That means it is in 64-bit nonfree
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> too. So user could find it. Now user can find it but can't install it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That is just stupid. And skype is used a lot. There are probably more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packages that depend on 32-bit libs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Shouldn't get-skype be 32bit if it needs 32bit libs?
+</I>
+Perhaps, but then it wouldn't show up to 64 bit users if they don't add
+32-bit core which is the suggestion here.
+
+I have to agree with Sander. The problem is not that 32-bit Core is
+enabled, it's just a usability/UI issue in the tools.
+
+This problem has been stated as a proposed solution (which happens a lot
+with tech discussions). Rephrase the subject of this thread as a
+problem, and a discussion about the best solution will result (although
+that is kinda happening already anyway!) :)
+
+Col
+
+-- 
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and zezinho at 25/02/12 00:00 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Shouldn't get-skype be 32bit if it needs 32bit libs?
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps, but then it wouldn't show up to 64 bit users if they don't add
+</I>&gt;<i> 32-bit core which is the suggestion here.
+</I>They would have to add 32-bit core + 32-bit nonfree (as Skype is in nonfree) which is not 
+even listed media for 64-bit system.
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+&gt;<i> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:42:01 -0500, Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The other big change here is to automatically generate a much bigger
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> initramfs when doing an upgrade from mga1. This will include a lot more
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I just tried it running dracut in a chroot from mga1, and got the
+</I>&gt;<i> bigger initramfs.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It still fails to mount /usr, unless I break at pre-pivot and manually run
+</I>&gt;<i> lvm vgchange -a y
+</I>
+Now that is interesting...
+
+&gt;<i> I think that should be done before looking for the root filesystem,
+</I>&gt;<i> or swap, etc.
+</I>
+Correct it should. Although dracut itself won't actually look for swap,
+unless resume support is enabled.
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+&gt;<i> I also still get the pata_acpi loading before pata_via, which makes my
+</I>&gt;<i> hard drives hd? instead of sd?, and stops /dev/sr0 from being created.
+</I>
+Yeah I still need to look at that issue.
+
+Col
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and David W. Hodgins at 25/02/12 07:35 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:42:01 -0500, Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The other big change here is to automatically generate a much bigger
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> initramfs when doing an upgrade from mga1. This will include a lot more
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> stuff (e.g. lvm, raid etc) that may or may not be needed on a given
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> setup, but until you boot with dracut you cannot generate an initramfs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that will be able to detect only what is needed for boot.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Looking at the current version of the init script, it's clear
+</I>&gt;<i> what the problem is ...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>     check_finished &amp;&amp; break
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>     udevsettle
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>     check_finished &amp;&amp; break
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The above statement will always be true on a single core
+</I>&gt;<i> system, so the following code never gets executed.
+</I>
+As I've said before, I really do not think this is anything to do with
+number of cores. I do see that there is a chicken and egg problem, but
+why would the number of cores affect this? Nothing runs in the
+background here.
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+(<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-February/011709.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-February/011709.html</A>),
+the problem is simply that there are no calls to wait_for_dev for the
+lvm drives and thus the whole initqueue stuff just glosses over things
+and doesn't ever activate them.
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+What is different to the last time is that now for hostonly initrds (not
+the one you generated), the wait_for_dev call WILL be added. I had hoped
+this different approach would have fixed your problem.
+
+However, due to me now doing this fallback non-hostonly initrd, the
+original problem still manifests itself.
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+Can you test that generating a new initrd after booting via dracut (and
+thus getting a hostonly one) does actually activate your usr partition?
+I'm not 100% convinced there will not still be a problem with the
+&quot;resume&quot; support and swap partitions, but it will hopefully give you a
+smooth boot even if resume support is busted.
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+The non-hostonly problem does need a fix and I'll see what can be done.
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+&gt;<i> They would have to add 32-bit core + 32-bit nonfree (as Skype is in
+</I>&gt;<i> nonfree) which is not even listed media for 64-bit system.
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+&gt;<i> Le samedi 25 f&#233;vrier 2012 11:44:58, Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> They would have to add 32-bit core + 32-bit nonfree (as Skype is in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> nonfree) which is not even listed media for 64-bit system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So for now Skype is not avalaible in x86_64 without activating 32-bit nonfree?
+</I>No, as it's noarch it's available in 64-bit nonfree too, but it needs 32-bit core for libs 
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+&gt;<i> 25.02.2012 13:47, zezinho kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le samedi 25 f&#233;vrier 2012 11:44:58, Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; They would have to add 32-bit core + 32-bit nonfree (as Skype is in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; nonfree) which is not even listed media for 64-bit system.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So for now Skype is not avalaible in x86_64 without activating 32-bit nonfree?
+</I>&gt;<i> No, as it's noarch it's available in 64-bit nonfree too, but it needs 32-bit core for libs 
+</I>&gt;<i> that it uses.
+</I>
+Then, it should no be noarch.
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+&gt;<i> Le samedi 25 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 14:04 +0200, Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 25.02.2012 13:47, zezinho kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le samedi 25 f&#233;vrier 2012 11:44:58, Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> They would have to add 32-bit core + 32-bit nonfree (as Skype is in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> nonfree) which is not even listed media for 64-bit system.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So for now Skype is not avalaible in x86_64 without activating 32-bit nonfree?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No, as it's noarch it's available in 64-bit nonfree too, but it needs 32-bit core for libs
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that it uses.
+</I>&gt;<i> Then, it should no be noarch.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I> From the policy POV yeah, it shouldn't. From the usability POV.. well, it's our only option 
+to make Skype available for 64-bit users.
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+</I>&gt;<i> On 25/02/12 08:41, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm going to add a volume mixer for a default desktop in Window Maker.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What is the name of the binary of the gnome mixer applet? I am looking
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for something modern against pulseaudio.
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+You just need a mixer or there is eventually a need for a systray applet ?
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+&gt;<i> pavucontrol?
+</I>could is probably the better solution if the need is only a mixer volume
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+&gt;<i> 25.02.2012 14:39, Michael Scherer kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le samedi 25 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 14:04 +0200, Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 25.02.2012 13:47, zezinho kirjutas:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Le samedi 25 f&#233;vrier 2012 11:44:58, Sander Lepik a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; They would have to add 32-bit core + 32-bit nonfree (as Skype is in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; nonfree) which is not even listed media for 64-bit system.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; So for now Skype is not avalaible in x86_64 without activating 32-bit nonfree?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; No, as it's noarch it's available in 64-bit nonfree too, but it needs 32-bit core for libs
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; that it uses.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Then, it should no be noarch.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>  From the policy POV yeah, it shouldn't. 
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> From the usability POV.. well, it's our only option 
+</I>&gt;<i> to make Skype available for 64-bit users.
+</I>
+Usability issues should not be fixed by bypassing policy. We do not move
+software to wrong repository &quot;because this is easier&quot;.
+ 
+If people want a 32 bits binary from non-free, they need to activate it,
+especially for a dubious one such as skype, that is forbidden ( and by
+forbidden, I mean that it would disciplinary sanction ) in my last 2
+jobs.
+
+And if that's too complex, people can also ask to the developers to push
+a 64 bits build. ( of course, since that's Microsoft, they will likely
+do nothing, but that's the price to pay for being dependent of a
+proprietary software )
+
+So the package should be fixed, because currently, the deps are broken
+( ie, the self containement rule is broken ), and that's IMHO enough for
+warranting a removal of the package if no one step to correct that.
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+[...]
+&gt;<i> So the package should be fixed, because currently, the deps are broken
+</I>&gt;<i> ( ie, the self containement rule is broken ), and that's IMHO enough for
+</I>&gt;<i> warranting a removal of the package if no one step to correct that.
+</I>
+huh, i thought this was about the noarchs packages being symlinked to be 
+available in both archs...
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+i have no troubles about the skype noarch package being in i586 nonfree repos 
+only...
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+i think the best is in fact to have 32bit repos enabled in x86_64 installs, 
+and having the GUI solve the problem with multiple versions of the same 
+package (be they diff from preferred arch, or older versions)
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+  5 !CAT_KDE !CAT_GNOME || CAT_XFCE gthumb
+  4 !CAT_KDE !CAT_GNOME !CAT_XFCE flphoto gtkam
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+flphoto has been dead for years and gtkam is very limited (and not
+packaged currently), what about replacing them with gthumb?
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+  CAT_GNOME
+    5 !LIGHT inkscape
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+I think inkscape should be installed in more environments than gnome,
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+&gt;<i> On 22.02.2012 09:34, D.Morgan wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:00 AM, Kamil Rytarowski&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On 14.02.2012 15:40, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; To-do before the version freeze (I think, I can finish it tonight):
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - review additional ~50 hunspell dicts and use better obsoletion of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; myspell
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - stop providing enchant-dictionary in 2/3 aspell dicts
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Done.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; All Hunspell dictionaries are ready, Aspell one are cleaned and Myspell
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; is moved into obsoletes. Have fun and feel free to submit bugs.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; aspell is still available on mirors. Do we need to remove them
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; manually from the repo ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> No, Aspell can't be obsoleted definitely (and so removed from mirrors)
+</I>&gt;<i> in this moment. Current goal is to stop installing, requiring it.
+</I>&gt;<i> It's still a requirement of Scribus (there is an upstream bug) and PHP
+</I>&gt;<i> (Thomas is having look) + Perl (there are bugs against Jerome's
+</I>&gt;<i> packages) modules.
+</I>
+I had a good look on my trip home last night. As far as I can see:
+if we drop php-pspell we wouldn't need aspell anymore (only the libs are 
+needed anyway)
+urpmq --whatrequires php-pspell returns nothing.
+php-enchant uses enchant and looking at that, the link is from myspell to 
+hunspell. Anssi, your opinion
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+&gt;<i> Currently rpmsrate lists:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>   5 !CAT_KDE !CAT_GNOME || CAT_XFCE gthumb
+</I>&gt;<i>   4 !CAT_KDE !CAT_GNOME !CAT_XFCE flphoto gtkam
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> flphoto has been dead for years and gtkam is very limited (and not
+</I>&gt;<i> packaged currently), what about replacing them with gthumb?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>   CAT_GNOME
+</I>&gt;<i>     5 !LIGHT inkscape
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I think inkscape should be installed in more environments than gnome,
+</I>&gt;<i> but maybe at level 4 rather than 5
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Opinions?
+</I>I think inkscape is a must for all desktops. What other program could open AI 
+files?
+-- 
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+Thomas Spuhler
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+    <B>Sandro CAZZANIGA</B> 
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+    <I>Sat Feb 25 16:51:05 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>I think there's an issue  with binrepo, can someone help? thanks!
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+BS$ ssh-agent /bin/bash
+BS$ ssh-add
+Enter passphrase for /home/kharec/.ssh/id_rsa:
+Identity added: /home/kharec/.ssh/id_rsa (/home/kharec/.ssh/id_rsa)
+BS$ mgarepo submit
+error: SPECS and/or SOURCES directories not found
+BS$ ls
+CPAN  workspace
+BS$ cd workspace/
+BS$ ls
+ncmpcpp
+BS$ cd ncmpcpp/
+BS$ ls
+BUILD  BUILDROOT  RPMS  SOURCES  SPECS  SRPMS  svn-commit.tmp~
+BS$ mgarepo submit
+Submitting ncmpcpp at revision 214601
+URL: svn+<A HREF="ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/ncmpcpp">ssh://svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/ncmpcpp</A>
+Implicit target: cauldron
+error: command failed: ssh
+pkgsubmit.mageia.org/usr/local/bin/submit_package -t cauldron --define
+sid=63354b80-65e2-4f11-a135-ca61382eccd5 -r 214601 svn+<A HREF="ssh://">ssh://</A>
+svn.mageia.org/svn/packages/cauldron/ncmpcpp
+--2012-02-25 16:49:06--
+<A HREF="http://binrepo.mageia.org//2402a6e333484d64011d0135ea6659dc784adc5a">http://binrepo.mageia.org//2402a6e333484d64011d0135ea6659dc784adc5a</A>
+Resolving binrepo.mageia.org (binrepo.mageia.org)... 2a02:2178:2:7::3,
+212.85.158.147
+Connecting to binrepo.mageia.org (binrepo.mageia.org)|2a02:2178:2:7::3|:80...
+connected.
+HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
+Length: 373853 (365K) [text/plain]
+Saving to:
+`/var/lib/schedbot/repsys/tmp/tmpo6_SQF/SOURCES/ncmpcpp-0.5.8.tar.bz2'
+
+     0K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 13%  293M 0s
+    50K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 27%  490M 0s
+   100K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 41%  527M 0s
+   150K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 54%  517M 0s
+   200K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 68%  530M 0s
+   250K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 82%  511M 0s
+   300K .......... .......... .......... .......... .......... 95%  613M 0s
+   350K .......... .....                                      100%
+559M=0.001s
+
+2012-02-25 16:49:06 (477 MB/s) -
+`/var/lib/schedbot/repsys/tmp/tmpo6_SQF/SOURCES/ncmpcpp-0.5.8.tar.bz2'
+saved [373853/373853]
+
+--2012-02-25 16:49:06--
+<A HREF="http://binrepo.mageia.org//c431af3b0394024bee03f828a69712feb0abd624">http://binrepo.mageia.org//c431af3b0394024bee03f828a69712feb0abd624</A>
+Resolving binrepo.mageia.org (binrepo.mageia.org)... 2a02:2178:2:7::3,
+212.85.158.147
+Connecting to binrepo.mageia.org (binrepo.mageia.org)|2a02:2178:2:7::3|:80...
+connected.
+HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
+2012-02-25 16:49:06 ERROR 404: Not Found.
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+error: Could not download file
+<A HREF="http://binrepo.mageia.org//c431af3b0394024bee03f828a69712feb0abd624">http://binrepo.mageia.org//c431af3b0394024bee03f828a69712feb0abd624</A>
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+&gt;<i> On Saturday, February 25, 2012 07:46:51 AM Pascal Terjan wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;   CAT_GNOME
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;   
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;     5 !LIGHT inkscape
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think inkscape should be installed in more environments than gnome,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; but maybe at level 4 rather than 5
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Opinions?
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+    <B>Jani V&#228;limaa</B> 
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+&gt;<i> I think there's an issue&#160; with binrepo, can someone help? thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+There's old (and unexisting?) source file mentioned in sha1.lst.
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+So, you need to edit sha1.lst by hand. Remove entry for old source
+tarball and commit your change. Then try to submit again.
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+    <B>Sandro CAZZANIGA</B> 
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+&gt;<i> 2012/2/25 Sandro CAZZANIGA &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I think there's an issue  with binrepo, can someone help? thanks!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There's old (and unexisting?) source file mentioned in sha1.lst.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So, you need to edit sha1.lst by hand. Remove entry for old source
+</I>&gt;<i> tarball and commit your change. Then try to submit again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+    <B>eatdirt</B> 
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+xinit has no maintainer, I am happy to do so but the spec is a bit scary 
+as it has a lot of patches, some quite old and maybe no longer needed?
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+I have just upgraded it to the latest keeping (and fixing) all orignal 
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+</I>&gt;<i> Le 25 f&#233;vr. 2012 06:34, &quot;eatdirt&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dirteat at gmail.com</A> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;mailto:<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dirteat at gmail.com</A>&gt;&gt; a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 25/02/12 08:41, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; I'm going to add a volume mixer for a default desktop in Window Maker.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; What is the name of the binary of the gnome mixer applet? I am looking
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; for something modern against pulseaudio.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You just need a mixer or there is eventually a need for a systray applet ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>I prefer to take an applet for system tray. There is actually a dockapp 
+to handle system tray, and I don't want to take extra space for user's 
+applets.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; pavucontrol?
+</I>&gt;<i> could is probably the better solution if the need is only a mixer 
+</I>&gt;<i> volume however if you need a systray applet gnome mixer is probably 
+</I>&gt;<i> not the best choice because I fear it is going to pull a lot of stuff.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Thank you for the suggestion, I have found what is the name of the 
+volume control in Gnome and unfortunately it's connected with 
+gnome-control-center. I had a look what is available in FreeCode and I 
+took gvolwheel as the best available choice (it was in Mandriva too) - 
+although I will have to rework the package a little bit. There will be a 
+master volume control + a button to pavucontrol.
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+    <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B> 
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+</I>&gt;<i> Should be fixed now.
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+&gt;<i> Revision 3047 Author alien Date 2012-02-25 17:09:50 +0100 (Sat, 25 Feb 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - fix wrong dates in the NEWS file
+</I>&gt;<i> - add logging to dropbear
+</I>&gt;<i> - make sure /dev/pts is mounted (mga#1023)
+</I>&gt;<i> - make root user homedir /root
+</I>&gt;<i> - add agetty (mga#2052)
+</I>
+you introduced a bogus date btw :-)
+More seriously please separate your commits next time, do not mix:
+- styling (eg: fixing dates)
+- actual changes
+- version bumping
+
+Also you failed to actually do the later because you didn't bump the
+version in Makefile
+
+Last but not least, this wasn't the right fix.
+The right fix was to do it in rc.sysinit
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+    <B>eatdirt</B> 
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+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/1/spuhler/updates_mandriva_2010_2.html">http://check.mageia.org/1/spuhler/updates_mandriva_2010_2.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shows that Mandriva has a newer version, 0.97.3. We have the same version in
+</I>&gt;<i> upgrade.
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+Yes, it will be listed if we have an older version, even if we have a
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+    <B>Maarten Vanraes</B> 
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+<PRE>Op zaterdag 25 februari 2012 17:27:18 schreef Thierry Vignaud:
+&gt;<i> On 25 February 2012 17:09,  &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Revision 3047 Author alien Date 2012-02-25 17:09:50 +0100 (Sat, 25 Feb
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - fix wrong dates in the NEWS file
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - add logging to dropbear
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - make sure /dev/pts is mounted (mga#1023)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - make root user homedir /root
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - add agetty (mga#2052)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> you introduced a bogus date btw :-)
+</I>&gt;<i> More seriously please separate your commits next time, do not mix:
+</I>&gt;<i> - styling (eg: fixing dates)
+</I>&gt;<i> - actual changes
+</I>&gt;<i> - version bumping
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Also you failed to actually do the later because you didn't bump the
+</I>&gt;<i> version in Makefile
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Last but not least, this wasn't the right fix.
+</I>&gt;<i> The right fix was to do it in rc.sysinit
+</I>&gt;<i> (see my commit)
+</I>
+hmm, are you sure that's the way to go?
+
+because those entries are in the etc/fstab (so it should be the same) and when 
+i tested beta1, i noticed that both mounts were actually to 
+/tmp/stage2/dev/pts and not /dev/pts; and for some reason that fails for 
+dropbear openpty allocation. only after i explicitly mounted again /dev/pts 
+did it work.
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+can you test to make sure dropbear still works?
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+I am looking for a packaging mentor.  I live in California, USA (UTC-8),
+but most communication will be by e-mail, so the time difference
+shouldn't be a problem.  Unfortunately I'm only fluent in English.
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+I am looking to maintain lm_sensors and possibly more packages as time
+permits.
+
+I am an Electrical Engineer and embedded designer/programmer. Lots of
+experience with PCI bus, I2C/SMBus and programming in C/C++.  I've
+compiled and tested the latest stable lm_sensors locally and will start
+the packaging process with it sometime in the next week, just to try out
+the process with a real package.
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+Thank you,
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+Jeff
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+On 02/25/2012 01:02 AM, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> for cdrom media, it complains about mounting it, i guess it could do the same 
+</I>&gt;<i> for unmounted partitions/nonexistant mount flash points?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+The installer would have to detect that it was a mount-point on install
+and remember the setting.
+
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> you could've accidentally clicked on it twice? is this reproducable? after 
+</I>&gt;<i> install, check in /proc/snd/cards to see how many audio chips you have?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+I never clicked either of the buttons.  I don't have a /proc/snd/
+folder, but I do have /proc/asound/cards.  It does show two cards.  So
+would the two buttons be normal behavior?  I'm just asking because I
+don't think I got two Ethernet buttons.
+
+/proc/asound/cards:
+ 0 [Generic        ]: HDA-Intel - HD-Audio Generic
+                      HD-Audio Generic at 0xfeb44000 irq 41
+ 1 [SB             ]: HDA-Intel - HDA ATI SB
+                      HDA ATI SB at 0xfeb40000 irq 16
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+&gt;&gt;<i> 3) I installed a second NIC in the machine and the eth0 and eth1 aliases
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>       keep sometimes switch between the two
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    - I already saw a bug report about this, but it is really annoying
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> that's definately an irritating bug, can you refer us to the bug report?
+</I>
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4352">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4352</A>
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> 5) After installing the SSh Server I was unable to connect remotely
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    - I had to add &quot;SSHD: ALL&quot; to /etc/hosts.allow
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    - I set security to server when installing the distro
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> that's a feature
+</I>
+Does this only happen when setting security to server?  I have 2 other
+Mageia 1 machines, not set to security server, and I've never had to do
+this for them.  hosts.allow has no entries in either of the machines.
+
+I don't remember seeing a post install message about hosts.allow, but I
+might just have missed it.  Maybe we should add a message, if there
+isn't one already.
+
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 6) radeon-firmware Bug 1471
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    - This has hit me on 3 of my 4 machines (Mageia 1 and Mageia 2 Beta
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    - It was made worse by my inability to install ssh-server blindly
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>       - I tried to install it by switching to a terminal, logging in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>          and using urpmi.  It didn't work because of (1)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>       - (3) and (4) didn't help either
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    - The work-around from the Errata didn't work because the firmware
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>       wasn't installed
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>       - installing the firmware automatically rebuilt the initrd
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> there was a discussion about nonfree stuff in installation media, but i donno 
+</I>&gt;<i> what the conclusion was to that discussion.
+</I>
+Okay.  I'll go look for that discussion.  Maybe we should add
+radeon.modeset=0 to kernel command lines automatically if the firmware
+isn't detected.
+
+Thank you,
+
+Jeff
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+On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Anne Nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael1 at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 22/02/2012 14:41, Christian Lohmaier a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 9:00 PM, Anne nicolas &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ennael at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Still no live cds available
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> without a live-iso, I won't be able to have a look - and probably
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> quite a few other won't have a look either...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We are looking for people to make it possible in time. Join the team !
+</I>
+Unfortunately it is far from clear how one could help in this case.
+Only info I have is that draklive needs adaptions because of migration
+to dracut.
+
+But with that info alone it is unclear how one could help really.
+
+I just assume it would require installing cauldron/the beta, but
+that's a catch-22, as I don't have enough free diskspace to install
+two copies of Mageia, hence the need for the live iso to test-drive it
+:<i>-/
+</I>
+So all I can do is wait &amp; hope for the best...
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+&gt;<i> Not really no, but perhaps you're now using NetworkManager and it's
+</I>&gt;<i> somehow not updating the persistent rules?
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+It's udev.  The file /lib/udev/write_net_rules is missing.
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+&gt;<i> Can you test that generating a new initrd after booting via dracut (and
+</I>&gt;<i> thus getting a hostonly one) does actually activate your usr partition?
+</I>
+It's working now with a hostonly initramfs. Thanks!
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+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://check.mageia.org/1/spuhler/updates_mandriva_2010_2.html">http://check.mageia.org/1/spuhler/updates_mandriva_2010_2.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Shows that Mandriva has a newer version, 0.97.3. We have the same version in 
+</I>&gt;<i> upgrade.
+</I>
+Yes, this page is mostly working, but there are still a few issues.  See <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3930">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3930</A>
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+Funda Wang just helped submit icewm-1.3.7-2, so it will appear in mirrors soon.
+These're how icewm packages now organized:
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+icewm-theme-oxygen-aya:
+- built from stand alone srpm
+- default icewm theme
+
+icewm-light:
+- Galaxy theme removed.
+- Requires icewm-theme-oxygen-aya
+- Suggests icewm-i18n
+
+icewm:
+- Requires icewm-light
+- Suggests icewm-themes
+
+icewm-i18n and i18n-themes are now two stand-alone packages.
+icewm-gnome is not changed.
+
+Please report back if you have any problems after updated/installed
+icewm(-light) 1.3.7-2.
+Thank you for your feedback and suggestions,
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+version in Cauldron, rather than a known good version.
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+The issue was introduced when nspr was updated to version 4.9, because the package provides version 4.9, but the pkg-config file says 4.9.0 is 
+the version.
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+config file in nspr.  So basically, we have libnspr4-4.9, but libnss3 is requiring libnspr4-4.9.0 and doesn't think it exists.
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+&gt;<i> On 10/10/11 11:20, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Just for curiosity, where is OSS support needed nowadays ? Quake and 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> co ?
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+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> At least for wmix and wmsmixer too :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> chris.
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+</I>I have found a walkaroud for this - use psdsp from pulseaudio-utils.
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+Just a notice, binaries from udisks have moved from /lib to /usr/lib
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+Sure they are not needed before /usr gets mounted ?
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+&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;<i>     215093
+</I>&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;<i>     dmorgan
+</I>&gt;<i> Date
+</I>&gt;<i>     2012-02-26 10:12:36 +0100 (Sun, 26 Feb 2012)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> @@ -75,7 +74,7 @@
+</I>&gt;<i>   Requires(post):	nss
+</I>&gt;<i>   Requires(post):	rpm-helper
+</I>&gt;<i>   Requires:	%{mklibname sqlite3_ 0}&gt;= %{sqlite3_version}
+</I>&gt;<i> -Requires:	%{nspr_libname}&gt;= 2:%{nspr_version}
+</I>&gt;<i> +Requires:	%{nspr_libname}&gt;= %{nspr_version}
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+I think epoch is needed here.
+with lib64nss3-3.13.3-3.mga2
+rpm -q --requires lib64nss3
+nss
+rpm-helper
+lib64sqlite3_0 &gt;= 3.7.10
+lib64nspr4 &gt;= 4.9
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+but lib64nspr4-4.9-3.mga2 provides
+rpm -q --provides lib64nspr4
+nspr = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+mozilla-nspr = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+...
+lib64nspr4 = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+lib64nspr4(x86-64) = 2:4.9-3.mga2
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 2:55 PM, Thomas Spuhler&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thomas at btspuhler.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tuesday, February 21, 2012 01:37:53 AM Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is there need for xedit in Mageia? This package is no longer shipped by
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Debian, Fedora, Red Hat, Arch, Slackware, Ubuntu.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This package is shipped by Gentoo and Mandriva.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xedit_%28X11%29">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xedit_%28X11%29</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This package is unmaintained.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> My proposition is to drop it. (And the side effect will be to eliminate
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> one of the last things that is based on Aspell)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am ok to drop it.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Best regards
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Thomas Spuhler
+</I>&gt;<i> no objection here too.
+</I>It's moved in SVN into obsoletes, please remove it from mirrors.
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+2012/2/26 JA Magall&#243;n &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jamagallon at ono.com</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Hi...
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+</I>&gt;<i> Just a notice, binaries from udisks have moved from /lib to /usr/lib
+</I>&gt;<i> (from 1.90 to 1.92).
+</I>&gt;<i> Sure they are not needed before /usr gets mounted ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> TIA
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+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> J.A. Magallon &lt;jamagallon()ono!com&gt; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;\ &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Winter is
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+&gt;<i> Hi all,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe we should consider offering a replacement for Mandriva Seed,
+</I>&gt;<i> which AFAIK is unmaintained and doesn't work on Windows 7 since
+</I>&gt;<i> some time.
+</I>&gt;<i> I've now stumbled over Rufus, the Reliable USB Formatting Utility
+</I>&gt;<i> (with Source) via <A HREF="http://reboot.pro/16374/">http://reboot.pro/16374/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> There are windows binaries available, it doesn't require installation,
+</I>&gt;<i> it's faster than most other tools like Unetbootin, there's source available
+</I>&gt;<i> and it's GPLv3-licensed. Might this be an option?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Project page: <A HREF="http://rufus.akeo.ie/">http://rufus.akeo.ie/</A>
+</I>
+Nice, I will put the link in the wiki:
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installation_Media#Can_I_dump_any_of_the_Mageia_ISOs_on_a_USB_stick.3F">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Installation_Media#Can_I_dump_any_of_the_Mageia_ISOs_on_a_USB_stick.3F</A>
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+    <B>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou</B> 
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+&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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+</I>&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I am looking for a packaging mentor.  I live in California, USA (UTC-8),
+</I>&gt;<i> but most communication will be by e-mail, so the time difference
+</I>&gt;<i> shouldn't be a problem.  Unfortunately I'm only fluent in English.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I am looking to maintain lm_sensors and possibly more packages as time
+</I>&gt;<i> permits.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I am an Electrical Engineer and embedded designer/programmer. Lots of
+</I>&gt;<i> experience with PCI bus, I2C/SMBus and programming in C/C++.  I've
+</I>&gt;<i> compiled and tested the latest stable lm_sensors locally and will start
+</I>&gt;<i> the packaging process with it sometime in the next week, just to try out
+</I>&gt;<i> the process with a real package.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Thank you,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Jeff
+</I>
+Hi Jeff,
+
+Welcome!
+
+I saw that you registered on
+<A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager.">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Becoming_a_Mageia_Packager.</A>
+
+Great.
+
+I can be your mentor, although I'm in the UK. If you don't mind being on
+IRC (#mageia-mentoring) in the morning or sending emails when one of us
+is asleep or at work, then there's no pb.
+
+See you.
+-- 
+Malo
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+<PRE>Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 06.02.2012 11:11, EatDirt wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 10/10/11 11:20, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just for curiosity, where is OSS support needed nowadays ? Quake and 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> co ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> At least for wmix and wmsmixer too :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> chris.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have found a walkaroud for this - use psdsp from pulseaudio-utils.
+</I>
+If a program needs OSS sound, if it's a graphical program, its menu entry should use &quot;soundwrapper&quot; before the command.  It will use padsp if 
+pulseaudio is active or aoss if it's not.
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+&gt;<i> Le 26/02/2012 10:12, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     215093
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     dmorgan
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Date
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     2012-02-26 10:12:36 +0100 (Sun, 26 Feb 2012)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> @@ -75,7 +74,7 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   Requires(post):	nss
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   Requires(post):	rpm-helper
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>   Requires:	%{mklibname sqlite3_ 0}&gt;= %{sqlite3_version}
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -Requires:	%{nspr_libname}&gt;= 2:%{nspr_version}
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +Requires:	%{nspr_libname}&gt;= %{nspr_version}
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I think epoch is needed here.
+</I>&gt;<i> with lib64nss3-3.13.3-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm -q --requires lib64nss3
+</I>&gt;<i> nss
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm-helper
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64sqlite3_0 &gt;= 3.7.10
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64nspr4 &gt;= 4.9
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> but lib64nspr4-4.9-3.mga2 provides
+</I>&gt;<i> rpm -q --provides lib64nspr4
+</I>&gt;<i> nspr = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> mozilla-nspr = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64nspr4 = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> lib64nspr4(x86-64) = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+</I>
+Yes, that change looked incorrect to me too.  I don't believe anything in nss was actually wrong/broken.  It was just relying on nspr 
+reporting the correct version through pkg-config, which it was not.  It looks like my fix for that was successful.
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+<PRE>David Walser wrote:
+&gt;<i> For some reason, the build system is trying to install libnss3 into every chroot.  I don't know why.  It is also trying to install the 
+</I>current 
+&gt;<i> version in Cauldron, rather than a known good version.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The issue was introduced when nspr was updated to version 4.9, because the package provides version 4.9, but the pkg-config file says 4.9.0 
+</I>is 
+&gt;<i> the version.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The breakage happened when updating the nss package, and it has a macro in it that generates the version of libnspr4 it requires from the 
+</I>pkg-
+&gt;<i> config file in nspr.  So basically, we have libnspr4-4.9, but libnss3 is requiring libnspr4-4.9.0 and doesn't think it exists.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I committed a change in svn for nspr that I believe will fix this, but nspr needs to be able to be rebuilt, so that nss can be rebuilt 
+</I>against 
+&gt;<i> it.  For anything to be built, the build system needs to either stop trying to install libnss3, or it needs to install the previous version 
+</I>of 
+&gt;<i> the package.
+</I>
+Thank you to D Morgan for fixing it.  I apologize for making sure that nss not only built, but also installed correctly before uploading it.
+
+This got me to thinking, however, that something like this should not have broken the build system.  There's no reason for iurt to be setting 
+up the chroot with packages from Cauldron, unless they are part of the BuildRequires (including recursively) for the package being built.  In 
+this situation, once a package needed in the base of the chroot is broken, there is no way to fix it without sysadmin intervention.  This 
+would be true for a broken package in Cauldron, or stable/updates_testing.
+
+I believe a better way for iurt to work would be this.  It would set up the initial chroot from the newest stable release of Mageia that is 
+the same version of Mageia the package is being built for, or older.  So right now, that would mean Mageia 1 in all cases.  Once Mageia 2 is 
+out, it would mean Mageia 2 for packages being built for 2 or Cauldron, and Mageia 1 for packages being built for 1.  Also, when the initial 
+chroot was being installed, release and updates would be enabled only.  Then, when it gets to the BuildRequires stage, first enable either 
+updates_testing if it's being built for a stable relase, or Cauldron if it's being built for that, and then install the BuildRequires and 
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+&gt;<i> This got me to thinking, however, that something like this should not have broken the build system. &#160;There's no reason for iurt to be setting
+</I>&gt;<i> up the chroot with packages from Cauldron, unless they are part of the BuildRequires (including recursively) for the package being built. &#160;In
+</I>&gt;<i> this situation, once a package needed in the base of the chroot is broken, there is no way to fix it without sysadmin intervention. &#160;This
+</I>&gt;<i> would be true for a broken package in Cauldron, or stable/updates_testing.
+</I>
+Cauldron chroot only uses cauldron packages. Stable chroot only uses
+stable packages.
+There is no reason to use non cauldron packages when building for
+cauldron, and this would likely break anyway.
+
+There is a bug opened to keep old chroot when we fail to generate new one.
+
+&gt;<i> I believe a better way for iurt to work would be this. &#160;It would set up the initial chroot from the newest stable release of Mageia that is
+</I>&gt;<i> the same version of Mageia the package is being built for, or older. &#160;So right now, that would mean Mageia 1 in all cases. &#160;Once Mageia 2 is
+</I>&gt;<i> out, it would mean Mageia 2 for packages being built for 2 or Cauldron, and Mageia 1 for packages being built for 1. &#160;Also, when the initial
+</I>&gt;<i> chroot was being installed, release and updates would be enabled only. &#160;Then, when it gets to the BuildRequires stage, first enable either
+</I>&gt;<i> updates_testing if it's being built for a stable relase, or Cauldron if it's being built for that, and then install the BuildRequires and
+</I>&gt;<i> build the package.
+</I>
+This is wrong, config files, rpm-build, compiler, etc would be from
+stable. We want cauldron packages built on cauldron.
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+    <B>Frank Griffin</B> 
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+    <I>Sun Feb 26 16:47:41 CET 2012</I>
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+iceape-spellchecker-2.6.1-1.mga2.x86_64
+  (due to missing myspell-dictionary)
+lib64cogl7-1.9.4-2.mga2.x86_64
+  (due to unsatisfied cogl-i18n == 1.9.4-2.mga2)
+lib64quvi6-0.2.19-1.mga2.x86_64
+  (due to unsatisfied quvi == 0.2.19-1.mga2) (y/N)
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+I'm thinking that the iceape thing is fallout from the unification of 
+the spellcheckers, but it's not clear whether the delete should be 
+allowed.  The cogl one is fairly new, and might be mirror lag.  But the 
+quvi one has been around for a week or more.
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+&gt;<i> lib64cogl7-1.9.4-2.mga2.x86_64
+</I>&gt;<i>  (due to unsatisfied cogl-i18n == 1.9.4-2.mga2)
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+Only emerillon still needed this. I've submitted a rebuild, but not sure
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+At least fedora and opensuse have already done it.
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+On 02/26/2012 04:09 AM, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
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+&gt;<i> I can be your mentor, although I'm in the UK. If you don't mind being on
+</I>&gt;<i> IRC (#mageia-mentoring) in the morning or sending emails when one of us
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+</I>&gt;<i> See you.
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+Awesome, thanks.  What's a good IRC client?  I've honestly never used it
+before.
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+&gt;<i> Awesome, thanks.  What's a good IRC client?  I've honestly never used it
+</I>&gt;<i> before.
+</I>
+there are several:
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> I would like to drop gqview (the image viewer) in favor of geeqie
+</I>&gt;<i> ( <A HREF="http://geeqie.sf.net">http://geeqie.sf.net</A> ). The latter is a fork of the former and is a bit
+</I>&gt;<i> less unmaintained.
+</I>&gt;<i> At least fedora and opensuse have already done it.
+</I>
+Seems like a good idea. Maybe also add obsoletes?
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+-- 
+Regards,
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+    <B>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou</B> 
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+&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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+</I>&gt;<i> On 02/26/2012 04:09 AM, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can be your mentor, although I'm in the UK. If you don't mind being on
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> IRC (#mageia-mentoring) in the morning or sending emails when one of us
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> is asleep or at work, then there's no pb.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> See you.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Awesome, thanks.  What's a good IRC client?  I've honestly never used it
+</I>&gt;<i> before.
+</I>
+It's the first thing for you to learn ...  ;-)
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+Any IRC client would do, from Konversation to XChat, connect on freenode
+to the channel #mageia-mentoring.
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like to drop gqview (the image viewer) in favor of geeqie
+</I>&gt;<i> ( <A HREF="http://geeqie.sf.net">http://geeqie.sf.net</A> ). The latter is a fork of the former and is a bit
+</I>&gt;<i> less unmaintained.
+</I>&gt;<i> At least fedora and opensuse have already done it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any objection ?
+</I>
+
+I am using gqview in everyday life, but geegie looks even better. Did 
+not know it existed! Go on!
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+Chris.
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+&gt;<i> It's moved in SVN into obsoletes, please remove it from mirrors.
+</I>
+It's now obsoleted by task-obsolete package :
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/task-obsolete/current/SPECS/task-obsolete.spec?r1=215366&amp;r2=215368">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/task-obsolete/current/SPECS/task-obsolete.spec?r1=215366&amp;r2=215368</A>
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+</I>&gt;<i> Instead of asking a sysadmin to do it, I propose that we create a
+</I>&gt;<i> package task-obsolete, with obsoletes on all packages that need to be
+</I>&gt;<i> removed, so that the removing of the package will be done by youri.
+</I>
+Package task-obsolete has been added.
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+The procedure to remove a package is now :
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and David Walser at 26/02/12 12:48 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 06.02.2012 11:11, EatDirt wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 10/10/11 11:20, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Just for curiosity, where is OSS support needed nowadays ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Quake and co ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> At least for wmix and wmsmixer too :)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> chris.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I have found a walkaroud for this - use psdsp from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> pulseaudio-utils.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If a program needs OSS sound, if it's a graphical program, its menu
+</I>&gt;<i> entry should use &quot;soundwrapper&quot; before the command.  It will use
+</I>&gt;<i> padsp if pulseaudio is active or aoss if it's not.
+</I>
+Just for completeness (I know you know this David :))
+
+Well this is the whole point in osspd.
+
+When osspd, none of the previous hacks (i.e. padsp, aoss and, therefore,
+soundwrapper generally) are needed any longer.
+
+osspd uses relatively recent capabilities of the kernel - CUSE - to
+create userspace character devices i.e. /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer.
+
+These are then proxied to a userspace program (osspd) which in this case
+passes it on to PulseAudio.
+
+This is a more complete solution and should work in cases where
+soundwrapper-based solutions failed (i.e. some games just didn't like
+it, and then there are also sometimes issues when running 32-bit apps on
+64-bit systems).
+
+Soundwrapper has already been patched by David to be a noop if osspd is
+running.
+
+Now there is really no valid reason to use an OSS mixer application
+these days, but apps themselves still have their place.
+
+Cheers
+
+Col
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and JA Magall&#243;n at 26/02/12 10:33 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Just a notice, binaries from udisks have moved from /lib to /usr/lib
+</I>&gt;<i> (from 1.90 to 1.92).
+</I>&gt;<i> Sure they are not needed before /usr gets mounted ?
+</I>
+I'm 100% sure. /usr mounting is handled in the initrd these days. This
+is very, very early stage boot before the proper pid 1 (i.e. systemd) is
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+udisk and friends are (relatively speaking) quite high level.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and David W. Hodgins at 25/02/12 22:37 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Sat, 25 Feb 2012 05:59:39 -0500, Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Can you test that generating a new initrd after booting via dracut (and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> thus getting a hostonly one) does actually activate your usr partition?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It's working now with a hostonly initramfs. Thanks!
+</I>
+Cool, I think that confirms my theory about wait_for_dev thing. I'll
+discuss this with Harald upstream.
+
+&gt;<i> Still can't access the dvd due to the pata_acpi loading before pata_via.
+</I>
+Yup, noted. I'll see what can be done.
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+&gt;<i> Luc Menut wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 26/02/2012 10:12, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; 215093
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; dmorgan
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Date
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; 2012-02-26 10:12:36 +0100 (Sun, 26 Feb 2012)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> @@ -75,7 +74,7 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; Requires(post): &#160; &#160;nss
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; Requires(post): &#160; &#160;rpm-helper
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; Requires: &#160;%{mklibname sqlite3_ 0}&gt;= %{sqlite3_version}
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -Requires: &#160; %{nspr_libname}&gt;= 2:%{nspr_version}
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +Requires: &#160; %{nspr_libname}&gt;= %{nspr_version}
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think epoch is needed here.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with lib64nss3-3.13.3-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rpm -q --requires lib64nss3
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> nss
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rpm-helper
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lib64sqlite3_0 &gt;= 3.7.10
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lib64nspr4 &gt;= 4.9
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but lib64nspr4-4.9-3.mga2 provides
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> rpm -q --provides lib64nspr4
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> nspr = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> mozilla-nspr = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lib64nspr4 = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> lib64nspr4(x86-64) = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Yes, that change looked incorrect to me too. &#160;I don't believe anything in nss was actually wrong/broken. &#160;It was just relying on nspr
+</I>&gt;<i> reporting the correct version through pkg-config, which it was not. &#160;It looks like my fix for that was successful.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+no your fix BROKE the BS.  so i workarounded here to allow to push and nss.
+Please next time before updating core packages, build and install in
+your machine or in a chroot.
+
+The pb here that i didn't passed to fix ( and was early in the night
+for me ) so i didn't had time to fix.
+
+But this morning if i added the epoch i obtained :
+
+$ rpmbuild -ba SPECS/nss.spec
+error: Failed build dependencies:
+        pkgconfig(nspr) &gt;= 2:4.9 is needed by nss-2:3.13.3-3.mga2.i586
+
+But in nspr if i look to the provides i can see:
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+pkgconfig(nspr) = 4.9             so seems this is wrong here.
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 1:50 PM, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Luc Menut wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 26/02/2012 10:12, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Revision
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+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; dmorgan
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Date
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; 2012-02-26 10:12:36 +0100 (Sun, 26 Feb 2012)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> @@ -75,7 +74,7 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; Requires(post): &#160; &#160;nss
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; Requires(post): &#160; &#160;rpm-helper
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &#160; Requires: &#160;%{mklibname sqlite3_ 0}&gt;= %{sqlite3_version}
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -Requires: &#160; %{nspr_libname}&gt;= 2:%{nspr_version}
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +Requires: &#160; %{nspr_libname}&gt;= %{nspr_version}
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think epoch is needed here.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with lib64nss3-3.13.3-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpm -q --requires lib64nss3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> nss
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpm-helper
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64sqlite3_0 &gt;= 3.7.10
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64nspr4 &gt;= 4.9
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but lib64nspr4-4.9-3.mga2 provides
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpm -q --provides lib64nspr4
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> nspr = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mozilla-nspr = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64nspr4 = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64nspr4(x86-64) = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, that change looked incorrect to me too. &#160;I don't believe anything in nss was actually wrong/broken. &#160;It was just relying on nspr
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reporting the correct version through pkg-config, which it was not. &#160;It looks like my fix for that was successful.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> no your fix BROKE the BS. &#160;so i workarounded here to allow to push and nss.
+</I>&gt;<i> Please next time before updating core packages, build and install in
+</I>&gt;<i> your machine or in a chroot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The pb here that i didn't passed to fix ( and was early in the night
+</I>&gt;<i> for me ) so i didn't had time to fix.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But this morning if i added the epoch i obtained :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ rpmbuild -ba SPECS/nss.spec
+</I>&gt;<i> error: Failed build dependencies:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;pkgconfig(nspr) &gt;= 2:4.9 is needed by nss-2:3.13.3-3.mga2.i586
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But in nspr if i look to the provides i can see:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> pkgconfig(nspr) = 4.9 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; so seems this is wrong here.
+</I>
+pkgconfig(*) provides are generated from info in the pkg config file,
+epoch should not be used there
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+&gt;<i> Le 26/02/12 16:55,Jeff Robins nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 02/26/2012 04:09 AM, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I can be your mentor, although I'm in the UK. If you don't mind being on
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> IRC (#mageia-mentoring) in the morning or sending emails when one of us
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> is asleep or at work, then there's no pb.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> See you.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>        
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Awesome, thanks.  What's a good IRC client?  I've honestly never used it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> before.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;<i> It's the first thing for you to learn ...  ;-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any IRC client would do, from Konversation to XChat, connect on freenode
+</I>&gt;<i> to the channel #mageia-mentoring.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> See you,
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>
+There is also chatzilla, included in the mozilla seamonkey/iceape 
+Internet suite.
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+@Malo Thanks.  I'll update the tables :)
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+<PRE>Le 23/01/2012 15:51, Olav Vitters a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> FYI,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A bunch of GNOME modules now have --enable-systemd configure flags. This
+</I>&gt;<i> will make them use systemd instead of (deprecated ConsoleKit) to track
+</I>&gt;<i> login sessions.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I made a tracker bug on GNOME Bugzilla:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=systemd">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=systemd</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Modules I noticed (and added to the tracker bug):
+</I>&gt;<i>   - NetworkManager
+</I>&gt;<i>   - gnome-settings-daemon
+</I>&gt;<i>   - gnome-session
+</I>&gt;<i>   - gnome-control-center
+</I>&gt;<i>   - gnome-packagekit
+</I>&gt;<i>   - system-monitor
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And related to systemd:
+</I>&gt;<i>   - gnome-control-center (timedated)
+</I>&gt;<i>     This just relies on the daemon to be there; systemd doesn't need to
+</I>&gt;<i>     be running (99% sure of this), the daemon is part in the systemd
+</I>&gt;<i>     tarball.
+</I>&gt;<i>     We do need to ensure Mageia 2 always has timedated. This is used to
+</I>&gt;<i>     change the timezone and so on btw.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> These seem to be compile time checks. Meaning: if --enable-systemd is
+</I>&gt;<i> added to ./configure, the functionality won't work on sysvinit. I am not
+</I>&gt;<i> sure exactly what will break under sysvinit. The bugreports to contain
+</I>&gt;<i> some discussion though.
+</I>I don't know if you performed some actual changes, but I'm facing 
+painful session start issue now:
+<A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4708">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4708</A>
+
+-- 
+The higher the &quot;higher-ups&quot; are who have come to see your demo, the 
+lower your chances are of giving a successful one
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+    <B>David Walser</B> 
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+<PRE>D.Morgan wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 1:50 PM, David Walser &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">luigiwalser at yahoo.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Luc Menut wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Le 26/02/2012 10:12, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Revision
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>     215093
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Author
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>     dmorgan
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Date
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>     2012-02-26 10:12:36 +0100 (Sun, 26 Feb 2012)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [...]
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> @@ -75,7 +74,7 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>   Requires(post):    nss
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>   Requires(post):    rpm-helper
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>   Requires:  %{mklibname sqlite3_ 0}&gt;= %{sqlite3_version}
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -Requires:   %{nspr_libname}&gt;= 2:%{nspr_version}
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> +Requires:   %{nspr_libname}&gt;= %{nspr_version}
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think epoch is needed here.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with lib64nss3-3.13.3-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpm -q --requires lib64nss3
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> nss
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpm-helper
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64sqlite3_0 &gt;= 3.7.10
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64nspr4 &gt;= 4.9
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> but lib64nspr4-4.9-3.mga2 provides
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> rpm -q --provides lib64nspr4
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> nspr = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> mozilla-nspr = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64nspr4 = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> lib64nspr4(x86-64) = 2:4.9-3.mga2
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Yes, that change looked incorrect to me too.  I don't believe anything in nss was actually wrong/broken.  It was just relying on nspr
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reporting the correct version through pkg-config, which it was not.  It looks like my fix for that was successful.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> no your fix BROKE the BS.  so i workarounded here to allow to push and nss.
+</I>&gt;<i> Please next time before updating core packages, build and install in
+</I>&gt;<i> your machine or in a chroot.
+</I>
+No it didn't.  The update to nspr 4.9 (which I didn't do) caused the breakage, which was seen as soon as nss was rebuilt (which I did).  I 
+didn't make any functional changes to nss.  The fix I put into nspr (after the BS got broken), did seem to work, as nss rebuilt against it 
+successfully and was installable again afterward.  And yes, I acknowleged that I should have installed it locally first and apologize.
+
+&gt;<i> The pb here that i didn't passed to fix ( and was early in the night
+</I>&gt;<i> for me ) so i didn't had time to fix.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> But this morning if i added the epoch i obtained :
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> $ rpmbuild -ba SPECS/nss.spec
+</I>&gt;<i> error: Failed build dependencies:
+</I>&gt;<i>         pkgconfig(nspr) &gt;= 2:4.9 is needed by nss-2:3.13.3-3.mga2.i586
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> But in nspr if i look to the provides i can see:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> pkgconfig(nspr) = 4.9             so seems this is wrong here.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Any hint ?
+</I>
+The epoch shouldn't be needed with the pkgconfig Require that you switched to, since it's provided virtually without an Epoch.  The libnspr4 
+require that Luc commented on should have the Epoch still (although I don't think removing it technically breaks anything, but it does 
+basically make it so that the version of the require isn't enforced).
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and David W. Hodgins at 25/02/12 22:34 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:46:07 -0500, Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Not really no, but perhaps you're now using NetworkManager and it's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> somehow not updating the persistent rules?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It's udev.  The file /lib/udev/write_net_rules is missing.
+</I>
+The &quot;rule generator&quot; feature of udev was apparently disabled when we
+updated to udev 175 - it seemed to change to a configure option that was
+disabled by default.
+
+I've re-enabled it now and it should be available again in the next udev
+package.
+
+Col
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+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+    <I>Sun Feb 26 23:49:03 CET 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 10:47:42PM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
+&gt;<i> I don't know if you performed some actual changes, but I'm facing
+</I>&gt;<i> painful session start issue now:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4708">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4708</A>
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+I didn't make any changes. But could be that it was automatically picked
+up due to modules detecting systemd... only thinking of that now.
+
+For Mageia 2, my thought was to not enable the systemd support.
+
+Could you compile gnome-settings-daemon locally with an explicit
+with_systemd=no added to configure?
+
+As said in the bug, seems to work for me.
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+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Build of the following packages failed:
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+</I>&gt;<i> - @211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
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+</I>&gt;<i> Failure details available in <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Reason:
+</I>&gt;<i> @211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm: build_failure
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log files generated:
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/chroot/initialize-1.0.20120226231100.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/chroot/initialize-1.0.20120226231100.log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/rpm_qa.0.20120226231100.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/rpm_qa.0.20120226231100.log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/build.0.20120226231100.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/build.0.20120226231100.log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/install_deps-1.0.20120226231100.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/install_deps-1.0.20120226231100.log</A>
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+and -zu packages, but it works fine if I manually build it in a iurt
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+Olav Vitters &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olav at vitters.nl</A>&gt; a &#233;crit :
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 04:36:23PM +0100, Julien wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I would like to drop gqview (the image viewer) in favor of geeqie
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( <A HREF="http://geeqie.sf.net">http://geeqie.sf.net</A> ). The latter is a fork of the former and is a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; bit less unmaintained.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; At least fedora and opensuse have already done it.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Seems like a good idea. Maybe also add obsoletes?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+yeah, that was the plan :)
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+    <B>Pascal Terjan</B> 
+    <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Rebuild%20failed%20on%20noarch%20for%0A%09%40211804%3Afirefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm&In-Reply-To=%3CCA%2BCX%2BbgKj7VQP0TRFVcQ9-1zny04Q%2B2oepm8922nMrHJBuu1Tw%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
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+&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 23:12, Ulri the scheduler bot
+</I>&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Build of the following packages failed:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - @211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Failure details available in <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Reason:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> @211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm: build_failure
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Log files generated:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/chroot/initialize-1.0.20120226231100.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/chroot/initialize-1.0.20120226231100.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/rpm_qa.0.20120226231100.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/rpm_qa.0.20120226231100.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/build.0.20120226231100.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/build.0.20120226231100.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/install_deps-1.0.20120226231100.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/install_deps-1.0.20120226231100.log</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't understand what's wrong here (it seems to forget about -zh-TW
+</I>&gt;<i> and -zu packages, but it works fine if I manually build it in a iurt
+</I>&gt;<i> chroot)
+</I>
+Ah actually it worked fine when I build it from a src.rpm I manually
+generated after simplifying a bit the template (which would not change
+anything) but not if I try to rebuild
+<A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm</A>
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+Maybe the expanded spec got too long and simplifying the template &quot;fixed&quot; it?
+Anyway, it is now built.
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+    <B>Anssi Hannula</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 00:09, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 23:12, Ulri the scheduler bot
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Build of the following packages failed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - @211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Failure details available in <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Reason:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> @211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm: build_failure
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Log files generated:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/chroot/initialize-1.0.20120226231100.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/chroot/initialize-1.0.20120226231100.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/rpm_qa.0.20120226231100.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/rpm_qa.0.20120226231100.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/build.0.20120226231100.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/build.0.20120226231100.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/install_deps-1.0.20120226231100.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/install_deps-1.0.20120226231100.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't understand what's wrong here (it seems to forget about -zh-TW
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and -zu packages, but it works fine if I manually build it in a iurt
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> chroot)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Ah actually it worked fine when I build it from a src.rpm I manually
+</I>&gt;<i> generated after simplifying a bit the template (which would not change
+</I>&gt;<i> anything) but not if I try to rebuild
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Maybe the expanded spec got too long and simplifying the template &quot;fixed&quot; it?
+</I>&gt;<i> Anyway, it is now built.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+AFAIK there is/was a buffer size issue in rpm-build, causing
+%{expand:foo} to fail if 'foo' is too long. Never got around to look at
+it closer, though...
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+    <B>Thomas Spuhler</B> 
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+maybe it'd be better to just list whatever support it has been built with.
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+Op zondag 26 februari 2012 19:46:34 schreef colin:
+&gt;<i> Name        : dovecot                      Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> Dovecot is an IMAP and POP3 server for Linux/UNIX-like systems, written
+</I>&gt;<i> with security primarily in mind. Although it's written with C, it uses
+</I>&gt;<i> several coding techniques to avoid most of the common pitfalls.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Dovecot can work with standard mbox and maildir formats and it's fully
+</I>&gt;<i> compatible with UW-IMAP and Courier IMAP servers as well as mail clients
+</I>&gt;<i> accessing the mailboxes directly.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> You can build dovecot with some conditional build swithes;
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> (ie. use with rpm --rebuild):
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i>     --with[out] gssapi		GSSAPI support (enabled)
+</I>&gt;<i>     --with[out] ldap		LDAP support (enabled)
+</I>&gt;<i>     --with[out] lucene		Lucene support (enabled)
+</I>&gt;<i>     --with[out] mysql		MySQL support (enabled)
+</I>&gt;<i>     --with[out] pgsql		PostgreSQL support (enabled)
+</I>&gt;<i>     --with[out] sqlite		SQLite support (enabled)
+</I>&gt;<i>     --with[out] sieve		CMU Sieve support (enabled)
+</I>&gt;<i>     --with[out] managesieve	MmanageSieve support (enabled)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>[...]
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+&gt;<i> Someone got the BS down
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+&gt;<i> Is it necessary to have these --with[out]* compile flags in the package
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+</I>maybe not necessary, but definitively useful.
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+&gt;<i> maybe it'd be better to just list whatever support it has been built with.
+</I>It has been a standard practice for all our packages allowing 
+conditional build options for quite a long time. Of course, this could 
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+Restarting it avoids OOM issues. I wasn't sure if it was a local problem
+or not, but saw one confirmation.
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+Didn't see many complaints upstream though, which is strange. I don't
+see any new messages in ~/.xsession-errors, so bit difficult to figure
+out what is wrong.
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+If anyone sees the same, please say so.
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+    <B>JA Magall&#243;n</B> 
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+The latest update in Cauldron pulled udisks-1.0.4, and I had also installed
+udisks2. I sounded strange to have both installed, but perhaps they complemented...
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+I launched both monitors and both detect USB thumb insertion, and SD card insertions.
+And old udisks is only required by:
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+one:~# rpm -q --whatrequires udisks
+perl-Hal-Cdroms-0.04-2.mga2
+one:~# rpm -q --whatrequires udisks2
+gnome-disk-utility-3.3.92-1.mga2
+gvfs-1.11.4-1.mga2
+one:~# rpm -q --whatrequires perl-Hal-Cdroms
+no package requires perl-Hal-Cdroms
+
+I removed perl-Hal-Cdroms and udisks and everything seems to work.
+What is needed the perl module for ?
+Can it be updated to require udisks2 ?
+
+TIA
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+-- 
+J.A. Magallon &lt;jamagallon()ono!com&gt;        \               Winter is coming...
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+    <B>Z&#233;zinho</B> 
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+</I><A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packagers_svn#How_to_drop_a_package_from_SVN.3F">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Packagers_svn#How_to_drop_a_package_from_SVN.3F</A>
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+&gt;<i> can a sysadmin please drop python-xpcom from cauldron?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It was needed by sugar-browse-activity, but it now uses webkit...
+</I>
+No chance of people using it by itself ?
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+&gt;<i> Is there any opinion on dropping mail-notification? Especially current
+</I>&gt;<i> maintainer ovitters.
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+I actually do make use of it. Eventhough it is a somewhat difficult
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+On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:42:31 -0500
+andre999 &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andre999mga at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le 26/02/12 16:55,Jeff Robins nous adresse ces quelques mots :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;    
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Hash: SHA256
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On 02/26/2012 04:09 AM, Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;      
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; I can be your mentor, although I'm in the UK. If you don't mind being on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; IRC (#mageia-mentoring) in the morning or sending emails when one of us
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; is asleep or at work, then there's no pb.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; See you.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;        
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Awesome, thanks.  What's a good IRC client?  I've honestly never used it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; before.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;      
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It's the first thing for you to learn ...  ;-)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Any IRC client would do, from Konversation to XChat, connect on freenode
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; to the channel #mageia-mentoring.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; See you,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;    
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> There is also chatzilla, included in the mozilla seamonkey/iceape 
+</I>&gt;<i> Internet suite.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+Chatzilla is also available as a Firefox extension:
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+<A HREF="https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chatzilla/">https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chatzilla/</A>
+
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+&gt;<i> 27.02.2012 02:22, Pascal Terjan kirjoitti:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 00:09, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 23:12, Ulri the scheduler bot
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia-sysadm at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Build of the following packages failed:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - @211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Failure details available in <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Reason:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> @211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm: build_failure
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Log files generated:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/chroot/initialize-1.0.20120226231100.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/chroot/initialize-1.0.20120226231100.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/rpm_qa.0.20120226231100.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/rpm_qa.0.20120226231100.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/build.0.20120226231100.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/build.0.20120226231100.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/install_deps-1.0.20120226231100.log">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/log/firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2/install_deps-1.0.20120226231100.log</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I don't understand what's wrong here (it seems to forget about -zh-TW
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and -zu packages, but it works fine if I manually build it in a iurt
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> chroot)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ah actually it worked fine when I build it from a src.rpm I manually
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> generated after simplifying a bit the template (which would not change
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> anything) but not if I try to rebuild
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm">http://pkgsubmit.mageia.org/uploads/failure/cauldron/core/release/20120226231059.pterjan.valstar.5570/@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe the expanded spec got too long and simplifying the template &quot;fixed&quot; it?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Anyway, it is now built.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> AFAIK there is/was a buffer size issue in rpm-build, causing
+</I>&gt;<i> %{expand:foo} to fail if 'foo' is too long. Never got around to look at
+</I>&gt;<i> it closer, though...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Yep, it's this one <A HREF="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=431009">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=431009</A>
+Not got around to re-report it yet, and it still happens, as you can see.
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and JA Magall&#243;n at 27/02/12 08:44 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The latest update in Cauldron pulled udisks-1.0.4, and I had also installed
+</I>&gt;<i> udisks2. I sounded strange to have both installed, but perhaps they
+</I>&gt;<i> complemented...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I launched both monitors and both detect USB thumb insertion, and SD
+</I>&gt;<i> card insertions.
+</I>&gt;<i> And old udisks is only required by:
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> one:~# rpm -q --whatrequires udisks
+</I>&gt;<i> perl-Hal-Cdroms-0.04-2.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> one:~# rpm -q --whatrequires udisks2
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome-disk-utility-3.3.92-1.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> gvfs-1.11.4-1.mga2
+</I>&gt;<i> one:~# rpm -q --whatrequires perl-Hal-Cdroms
+</I>&gt;<i> no package requires perl-Hal-Cdroms
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I removed perl-Hal-Cdroms and udisks and everything seems to work.
+</I>&gt;<i> What is needed the perl module for ?
+</I>&gt;<i> Can it be updated to require udisks2 ?
+</I>
+
+Both can co-exist for now. They are designed to be co-installed.
+
+We will have to wait until some KDE stuff is ported before we can remove
+udisks:
+
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ urpmq --whatrequires udisks | sort -u
+k9copy
+kdelibs4-core
+perl-Hal-Cdroms
+udisks
+udisks-devel
+udisks-glue
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+It might be that some deps on udisks2 are missing however....
+
+Col
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+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 27/02/12 08:19 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> I'm seeing huge memory usage by gnome-shell/mutter 3.3.90 over time.
+</I>&gt;<i> Restarting it avoids OOM issues. I wasn't sure if it was a local problem
+</I>&gt;<i> or not, but saw one confirmation.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Didn't see many complaints upstream though, which is strange. I don't
+</I>&gt;<i> see any new messages in ~/.xsession-errors, so bit difficult to figure
+</I>&gt;<i> out what is wrong.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If anyone sees the same, please say so.
+</I>
+Will do. The trick is likely to run gnome-shell via valgrind and get
+some logs. I did that last time I had a massive memory leak and I think
+ebassi or someone managed to fix it... didn't seem like a big error at
+the time, but turned out to be problematic.
+
+It's quite a pain running gnome-shell through valgrind as it really
+slows things down, but it does provide good data.
+
+Col
+
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and eatdirt at 25/02/12 16:13 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi people,
+</I>&gt;<i> xinit has no maintainer, I am happy to do so but the spec is a bit scary
+</I>&gt;<i> as it has a lot of patches, some quite old and maybe no longer needed?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I have just upgraded it to the latest keeping (and fixing) all orignal
+</I>&gt;<i> patches; please if you have a request of warning, make a comment here.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> tv seems to be the last one having upgraded it, let me know if there is
+</I>&gt;<i> something I should do or not do!
+</I>
+I don't think it's a problem and the commit looks good to me. I wouldn't
+have changed the %patch0 line, but that's just a very minor comment.
+
+Thanks!
+
+Col
+
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
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+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
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+    <B>Shlomi Fish</B> 
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+On Sun, 26 Feb 2012 16:36:23 +0100
+Julien &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">julien.moragny at laposte.net</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like to drop gqview (the image viewer) in favor of geeqie
+</I>&gt;<i> ( <A HREF="http://geeqie.sf.net">http://geeqie.sf.net</A> ). The latter is a fork of the former and is a bit
+</I>&gt;<i> less unmaintained.
+</I>&gt;<i> At least fedora and opensuse have already done it.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Any objection ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+Go for it. I'm primarily using KDE's gwenview as an image viewer, but geeqie
+seems nice.
+
+Regards,
+
+	Shlomi Fish
+
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+&gt;<i> Name        : mplayer                      Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>[..]
+&gt;<i> This package is in the 'tainted' section because some included codecs
+</I>&gt;<i> are covered by patents.  It also includes support for reading DVDs
+</I>&gt;<i> encrypted with CSS which might be illegal in some countries.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> For non-free binary codecs support you should install the packages
+</I>&gt;<i> win32-codecs, real-codecs and xanim-codecs.
+</I>----^----------------^---------------^--
+As we don't have these package, can somebody remove this last line ?
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and David W. Hodgins at 25/02/12 07:35 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 06:42:01 -0500, Colin Guthrie
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The other big change here is to automatically generate a much bigger
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> initramfs when doing an upgrade from mga1. This will include a lot more
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> stuff (e.g. lvm, raid etc) that may or may not be needed on a given
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> setup, but until you boot with dracut you cannot generate an initramfs
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that will be able to detect only what is needed for boot.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Looking at the current version of the init script, it's clear
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> what the problem is ...
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     check_finished &amp;&amp; break
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     udevsettle
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>     check_finished &amp;&amp; break
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The above statement will always be true on a single core
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> system, so the following code never gets executed.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> As I've said before, I really do not think this is anything to do with
+</I>&gt;<i> number of cores. I do see that there is a chicken and egg problem, but
+</I>&gt;<i> why would the number of cores affect this? Nothing runs in the
+</I>&gt;<i> background here.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> As stated earlier
+</I>&gt;<i> (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-February/011709.html">https://www.mageia.org/pipermail/mageia-dev/2012-February/011709.html</A>),
+</I>&gt;<i> the problem is simply that there are no calls to wait_for_dev for the
+</I>&gt;<i> lvm drives and thus the whole initqueue stuff just glosses over things
+</I>&gt;<i> and doesn't ever activate them.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> What is different to the last time is that now for hostonly initrds (not
+</I>&gt;<i> the one you generated), the wait_for_dev call WILL be added. I had hoped
+</I>&gt;<i> this different approach would have fixed your problem.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> However, due to me now doing this fallback non-hostonly initrd, the
+</I>&gt;<i> original problem still manifests itself.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you test that generating a new initrd after booting via dracut (and
+</I>&gt;<i> thus getting a hostonly one) does actually activate your usr partition?
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm not 100% convinced there will not still be a problem with the
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;resume&quot; support and swap partitions, but it will hopefully give you a
+</I>&gt;<i> smooth boot even if resume support is busted.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The non-hostonly problem does need a fix and I'll see what can be done.
+</I>
+Just for reference, here is my conversation with Harald Hoyer (dracut
+upstream guy):
+
+Me: haraldh, I've got a problem case with lvm again :)
+Me: haraldh, It was the same problem I had before, but it was solved in
+latest dracut with the specific cmdline files and specifically waiting
+for the known needed lvms.
+Me: haraldh, but sadly when building a non-hostonly initrd, no
+wait_for_dev calls are put in for the lvms and it can lead to problems
+when /usr is on lvm as the initqueue exits and no wait_for_dev for the
+/usr partition is ever issues and it cannot be mounted.
+Harald: coling, ah, yes... we have to redesign dracut there and put the
+mount hook in the main loop
+
+He did have a work around suggestion too tho', which I'll have to think
+about and code for, but on the surface it could provide a good stop gap
+without too much re-engineering.
+
+Col
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+&gt;<i> I don't think it's a problem and the commit looks good to me. I wouldn't
+</I>&gt;<i> have changed the %patch0 line, but that's just a very minor comment.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Cool, thanks!
+Ah ok, you mean the suffix?
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+I though it was a bit unclear as the file itself is called startx.
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+&gt;<i> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 05:53:52PM +0800, Funda Wang wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is there any opinion on dropping mail-notification? Especially current
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; maintainer ovitters.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I actually do make use of it. Eventhough it is a somewhat difficult
+</I>&gt;<i> package (loads of patches, buggy, etc).
+</I>
+Thanks for all the work in mail-notification!
+
+I'm going to ask the Fedora maintainer if he wants to takeover
+mail-notification development (either real upstream or put it on
+git.gnome.org). Upstream seems dead.
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; win32-codecs, real-codecs and xanim-codecs.
+</I>&gt;<i> ----^----------------^---------------^--
+</I>&gt;<i> As we don't have these package, can somebody remove this last line ?
+</I>
+Which reminds me of a question I have forgotten to ask:
+What do we use in Mageia to replace those packages?
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+I've added a build option to the kmod package (--with tools) to allow it
+to replace module-init-tools.
+
+Not tested this greatly yet, but I know others are going this way
+generally, so now might be as good at time as any.
+
+If people want to test it, please feel free to rebuild kmod package with
+the above option.
+
+Col
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+&gt;<i> On Monday 27 February 2012 13:23, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> For non-free binary codecs support you should install the packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> win32-codecs, real-codecs and xanim-codecs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ----^----------------^---------------^--
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> As we don't have these package, can somebody remove this last line ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Which reminds me of a question I have forgotten to ask:
+</I>&gt;<i> What do we use in Mageia to replace those packages?
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+    <B>Damien Lallement</B> 
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+<PRE>Le 25/02/2012 15:46, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Currently rpmsrate lists:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    5 !CAT_KDE !CAT_GNOME || CAT_XFCE gthumb
+</I>&gt;<i>    4 !CAT_KDE !CAT_GNOME !CAT_XFCE flphoto gtkam
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> flphoto has been dead for years and gtkam is very limited (and not
+</I>&gt;<i> packaged currently), what about replacing them with gthumb?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>    CAT_GNOME
+</I>&gt;<i>      5 !LIGHT inkscape
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think inkscape should be installed in more environments than gnome,
+</I>&gt;<i> but maybe at level 4 rather than 5
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Opinions?
+</I>
+I would like to replace &quot;f-spot&quot; with &quot;shotwell&quot;
+&quot;f-spot&quot; is no longer developped and uses &quot;mono&quot;
+&quot;shotwell&quot; is a &quot;vala&quot; software.
+Fedora and Ubuntu have replaced &quot;f-spot&quot; with &quot;showell&quot; for 2 years now.
+Anybody against this? I maintain &quot;shotwell&quot; so I'm sure we are uptodate 
+with this software.
+-- 
+Damien Lallement
+Treasurer of Mageia.Org
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+&gt;<i> Le 27/02/2012 08:00, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Is it necessary to have these --with[out]* compile flags in the package
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; description?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> maybe not necessary, but definitively useful.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; maybe it'd be better to just list whatever support it has been built
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; with.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It has been a standard practice for all our packages allowing
+</I>&gt;<i> conditional build options for quite a long time. Of course, this could
+</I>&gt;<i> be mentioned elsewhere as package description.
+</I>
+i have no problem it being in the spec file, but surely a better place rather 
+than the description... it's not like users really need to know which compile 
+flags there is or what you can do with rpmbuild...
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+i'm just saying this info should be moved out to comments in spec file, and 
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+    <B>Claire Robinson</B> 
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+<PRE>On 27/02/12 13:01, Damien Lallement wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le 25/02/2012 15:46, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Currently rpmsrate lists:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 5 !CAT_KDE !CAT_GNOME || CAT_XFCE gthumb
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 4 !CAT_KDE !CAT_GNOME !CAT_XFCE flphoto gtkam
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> flphoto has been dead for years and gtkam is very limited (and not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packaged currently), what about replacing them with gthumb?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> CAT_GNOME
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 5 !LIGHT inkscape
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think inkscape should be installed in more environments than gnome,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but maybe at level 4 rather than 5
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Opinions?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like to replace &quot;f-spot&quot; with &quot;shotwell&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;f-spot&quot; is no longer developped and uses &quot;mono&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;shotwell&quot; is a &quot;vala&quot; software.
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora and Ubuntu have replaced &quot;f-spot&quot; with &quot;showell&quot; for 2 years now.
+</I>&gt;<i> Anybody against this? I maintain &quot;shotwell&quot; so I'm sure we are uptodate
+</I>&gt;<i> with this software.
+</I>
+I think shotwell is very good idea. I usually install it anyway rather 
+than use f-spot.
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+<PRE>Am 27.02.2012 14:01, schrieb Damien Lallement:
+&gt;<i> Le 25/02/2012 15:46, Pascal Terjan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Currently rpmsrate lists:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    5 !CAT_KDE !CAT_GNOME || CAT_XFCE gthumb
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    4 !CAT_KDE !CAT_GNOME !CAT_XFCE flphoto gtkam
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> flphoto has been dead for years and gtkam is very limited (and not
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> packaged currently), what about replacing them with gthumb?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>    CAT_GNOME
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      5 !LIGHT inkscape
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think inkscape should be installed in more environments than gnome,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but maybe at level 4 rather than 5
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Opinions?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would like to replace &quot;f-spot&quot; with &quot;shotwell&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;f-spot&quot; is no longer developped and uses &quot;mono&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;shotwell&quot; is a &quot;vala&quot; software.
+</I>&gt;<i> Fedora and Ubuntu have replaced &quot;f-spot&quot; with &quot;showell&quot; for 2 years now.
+</I>&gt;<i> Anybody against this? I maintain &quot;shotwell&quot; so I'm sure we are uptodate with
+</I>&gt;<i> this software.
+</I>If it doesn't turn out like in Mandriva, replacing DigiKam with shotwell,
+sure, why not.
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+<PRE>Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Op maandag 27 februari 2012 09:20:17 schreef Guillaume Rousse:
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 27/02/2012 08:00, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is it necessary to have these --with[out]* compile flags in the package
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> description?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>        
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> maybe not necessary, but definitively useful.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> maybe it'd be better to just list whatever support it has been built
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> with.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>        
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> It has been a standard practice for all our packages allowing
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> conditional build options for quite a long time. Of course, this could
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be mentioned elsewhere as package description.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>      
+</I>&gt;<i> i have no problem it being in the spec file, but surely a better place rather
+</I>&gt;<i> than the description... it's not like users really need to know which compile
+</I>&gt;<i> flags there is or what you can do with rpmbuild...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i'm just saying this info should be moved out to comments in spec file, and
+</I>&gt;<i> change the description to state what exactly is compiled in...
+</I>&gt;<i>    
+</I>It can be very useful for users to know what functions are activated in 
+a package - which the compile flags often indicate.  In the man page (or 
+other documentation) there is often reference to functions available &quot;if 
+activated&quot;.
+So I would favour keeping compile flags in the description, if it is 
+possible that they make a difference in the functions available.
+However if the compile flags are required to make the package build 
+properly, then it does make sense to make them a comment in the spec file.
+
+My 2 cents :)
+
+-- 
+Andr&#233;
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+    <B>Sebastian sebsebseb</B> 
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+<PRE>On 27/02/12 22:42, Donald Stewart wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 27 February 2012 22:09, Sebastian sebsebseb&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 27/02/12 21:41, Donald Stewart wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 27 February 2012 21:36, Sebastian sebsebseb&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>   wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 27/02/12 16:07, Donald Stewart wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Some suggestions:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe an hour is too long - I think that I would get bored after 20 or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> so minutes.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Theme tune wise, I know a few music people, but what sort of thing is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wanted?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> As for different languages, that would be great, again having shorter
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> episodes would help with that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 27 February 2012 00:12, Sebastian sebsebseb&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">sebsebseb_mageia at gmx.com</A>&gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>   wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 26/02/12 23:57, Josh King wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 02/26/2012 04:21 PM, Sebastian sebsebseb wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Yes it would be good, but things haven't quite gone as planned, and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> so
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> going to need another host to do this with, if I am going to do it,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> because I don't want to on my own.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Also I would like to do it at least once a month possibly more, with
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> most episodes having a guest from the Mageia community, be they a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> contributor or just a user that would like to share their user
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> experience.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Episodes would be done like how John suggested I expect, with them
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> probably all being about an hour long.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> A theme tune would still need sorting out as well if going to do
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Would anyone like to make one?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hosting would still need sorting out for the episodes as well.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I dont have any musical skills, but I may be able to provide some
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> hosting
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> for it. Any particular requirements needed?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ok thanks :) and I would want somewhere to put the episodes for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> download,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and download statistics access. The podcast would also have some sort
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> website for it in the hosting. However at the moment I don't know who I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> am
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> going to be doing one with, if I am going to actually start one, which
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> would still like to :). So who would like to, or maybe like to be, a
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> host
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> this podcast with me?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Not sure quite for the theme, but something that is short and for many
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> people would be nice to listen to, that fits into the theme of magic
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> probably, since Mageia is meant to mean magic in ancient Greek or so I
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> thought.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Would be good to get some suggestions from actual music people for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> theme
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> tune, or even better theme tune examples :). Also any suggestions for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Creative Commons music to be used in the show are welcome :).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Thanks in advanced Donald if you can find someone to make the theme tune
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> :).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I will ask Lewis tomorrow and see what he says - he should be able to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> put something together on that theme.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Ok thanks :). Of interest who's Lewis? A friend of yours I assume.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Maybe Lewis can even make a sound theme for Mageia 2, so log in and shut
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> down sounds for example. As far as I know there hasn't really been one made,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> although I think I read something before on mailing list about how someone
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> was going to maybe make one or made one.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I would suggest using a magic sound theme for Mageia 2.
+</I>&gt;<i> Yep, friend from Uni - there was a mail about it, although I don't
+</I>&gt;<i> know if there was ever a response.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I was going to reply, but didn't know if it came under artwork team or
+</I>&gt;<i> something else....
+</I>Yeah it would be artwork in a way.
+
+I really do think that Mageia 2 should have a sound scheme, but it seems 
+someone is going to have to make it first, maybe your friend? Or maybe a 
+sound scheme contest should get started, but Mageia 2 Beta 2 not that 
+long to go now really, and the artwork freeze for example is rather soon.
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+    <B>Funda Wang</B> 
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+<PRE>Hello,
+
+Is binrepo offlined?
+
+
+$ mgarepo co gnutls
+A    gnutls/SPECS
+--2012-02-28 15:08:59--
+<A HREF="http://binrepo.mageia.org//6313e908d64ff4f3985356ebb3ec680d7c246752">http://binrepo.mageia.org//6313e908d64ff4f3985356ebb3ec680d7c246752</A>
+Resolving binrepo.mageia.org... 212.85.158.147, 2a02:2178:2:7::3
+Connecting to binrepo.mageia.org|212.85.158.147|:80... failed:
+Connection refused.
+Connecting to binrepo.mageia.org|2a02:2178:2:7::3|:80... failed:
+Network is unreachable.
+error: Could not download file
+<A HREF="http://binrepo.mageia.org//6313e908d64ff4f3985356ebb3ec680d7c246752">http://binrepo.mageia.org//6313e908d64ff4f3985356ebb3ec680d7c246752</A>
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+Regards.
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+    <B>D.Morgan</B> 
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+<PRE>On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Funda Wang &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">fundawang at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is binrepo offlined?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ mgarepo co gnutls
+</I>&gt;<i> A &#160; &#160;gnutls/SPECS
+</I>&gt;<i> --2012-02-28 15:08:59--
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://binrepo.mageia.org//6313e908d64ff4f3985356ebb3ec680d7c246752">http://binrepo.mageia.org//6313e908d64ff4f3985356ebb3ec680d7c246752</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Resolving binrepo.mageia.org... 212.85.158.147, 2a02:2178:2:7::3
+</I>&gt;<i> Connecting to binrepo.mageia.org|212.85.158.147|:80... failed:
+</I>&gt;<i> Connection refused.
+</I>&gt;<i> Connecting to binrepo.mageia.org|2a02:2178:2:7::3|:80... failed:
+</I>&gt;<i> Network is unreachable.
+</I>&gt;<i> error: Could not download file
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://binrepo.mageia.org//6313e908d64ff4f3985356ebb3ec680d7c246752">http://binrepo.mageia.org//6313e908d64ff4f3985356ebb3ec680d7c246752</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards.
+</I>
+i can reproduce here, i just asked sysadmin team on irc to look.
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+    <B>D.Morgan</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is binrepo offlined?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ mgarepo co gnutls
+</I>&gt;<i> A &#160; &#160;gnutls/SPECS
+</I>&gt;<i> --2012-02-28 15:08:59--
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://binrepo.mageia.org//6313e908d64ff4f3985356ebb3ec680d7c246752">http://binrepo.mageia.org//6313e908d64ff4f3985356ebb3ec680d7c246752</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Resolving binrepo.mageia.org... 212.85.158.147, 2a02:2178:2:7::3
+</I>&gt;<i> Connecting to binrepo.mageia.org|212.85.158.147|:80... failed:
+</I>&gt;<i> Connection refused.
+</I>&gt;<i> Connecting to binrepo.mageia.org|2a02:2178:2:7::3|:80... failed:
+</I>&gt;<i> Network is unreachable.
+</I>&gt;<i> error: Could not download file
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://binrepo.mageia.org//6313e908d64ff4f3985356ebb3ec680d7c246752">http://binrepo.mageia.org//6313e908d64ff4f3985356ebb3ec680d7c246752</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards.
+</I>
+i just fixed, should be OK now.
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+    <B>nicolas vigier</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 06.02.2012 16:57, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hello,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; While updating youri and iurt packages yesterday I noticed that it's
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; not easy to make new versions of mageia software that we have on svn
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; soft repository, and each of them has different makefile rules to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; generate tarballs or sometimes update packages. Most versions are not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; tagged because you have to write a long command line to do it. So in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the train from fosdem yesterday I created a small script to tag versions,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; create tarballs and publish them on mageia mirrors, for the software on
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; svn soft repository.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; You can install it with mgasoft package on cauldron.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; To tag a new version :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; $ mgasoft tag [name] [version]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; To create a tarball :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; $ mgasoft tar [name] [version]
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Or a tarball from trunk, for testing :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; $ mgasoft tar [name] trunk
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> As you say, there is some variation in how tarballs are made. How does
+</I>&gt;<i> this 'tar' command generate the tarball?
+</I>
+Currently, it only generate a tarball from what is on the svn. It
+doesn't run &quot;make dist&quot; or anything else.
+
+&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> It is common for the &quot;make dist&quot; (or whatever) to package additional
+</I>&gt;<i> files not present in SVN to the tarball, such as 'configure' et al or
+</I>&gt;<i> 'ChangeLog' (generated from SVN), so one can't directly just put the
+</I>&gt;<i> trunk directory in the tarball...
+</I>
+I think it could run &quot;make dist&quot; before, but currently the mgasoft
+command is used on the server to generate the tarball and publish it on
+the mirrors, and it would not be safe to run makefile commands directly
+on this server, so I think we need to change how tarballs are published.
+Maybe generating the tarball on client and upload it with binrepo and
+send the sha1sum to the server to publish it on mirrors, or generate it
+on one of the build nodes.
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+
+Someone needs to update this package - any volunteers? It's quite an
+important package so please be careful if you are a novice :D
+
+The latest version (4.1.5) contains a fix for a CVE so I think we should
+update it before mga2... only problem is that that the tcb related
+patches need rediffed. I didn't look closely, but I suspect this will
+take a bit of time and a at least a bit of understanding of the code.
+Perhaps it won't be too hard tho'.
+
+I also think we should remove /usr/bin/login from that package (fedora
+already do this). We already have /bin/login from util-linux (and also
+had this in mga1) so providing two different login implementations from
+two different packages but in different paths just seems like a recipe
+for problems to me (and certainly will cause problems when we do the
+/usr consolidation for mga3).
+
+Any takers? If not, I'll have a look in a week or so.
+
+Col
+
+
+
+-- 
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 28/02/12 11:03 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Someone needs to update this package - any volunteers? It's quite an
+</I>&gt;<i> important package so please be careful if you are a novice :D
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> The latest version (4.1.5) contains a fix for a CVE so I think we should
+</I>&gt;<i> update it before mga2... only problem is that that the tcb related
+</I>&gt;<i> patches need rediffed. I didn't look closely, but I suspect this will
+</I>&gt;<i> take a bit of time and a at least a bit of understanding of the code.
+</I>&gt;<i> Perhaps it won't be too hard tho'.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> I also think we should remove /usr/bin/login from that package (fedora
+</I>&gt;<i> already do this). We already have /bin/login from util-linux (and also
+</I>&gt;<i> had this in mga1) so providing two different login implementations from
+</I>&gt;<i> two different packages but in different paths just seems like a recipe
+</I>&gt;<i> for problems to me (and certainly will cause problems when we do the
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr consolidation for mga3).
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Any takers? If not, I'll have a look in a week or so.
+</I>
+Oh forgot to mention that the current SVN doesn't build due to a source
+file mismatch... Updating the spec to  match the binary version (which
+is newer) works fine and the patches still apply. It's just the jump up
+to 4.1.5 that causes the patches not to apply.
+
+Cheers
+
+Col
+
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+Open Source:
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] shadow-utils">mageia at colin.guthr.ie
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+    <I>Tue Feb 28 13:56:22 CET 2012</I>
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+&gt;<i> 'Twas brillig, and Colin Guthrie at 28/02/12 11:03 did gyre and gimble:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Someone needs to update this package - any volunteers? It's quite an
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> important package so please be careful if you are a novice :D
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The latest version (4.1.5) contains a fix for a CVE so I think we should
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> update it before mga2... only problem is that that the tcb related
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> patches need rediffed. I didn't look closely, but I suspect this will
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> take a bit of time and a at least a bit of understanding of the code.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Perhaps it won't be too hard tho'.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I also think we should remove /usr/bin/login from that package (fedora
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> already do this). We already have /bin/login from util-linux (and also
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> had this in mga1) so providing two different login implementations from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> two different packages but in different paths just seems like a recipe
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for problems to me (and certainly will cause problems when we do the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr consolidation for mga3).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any takers? If not, I'll have a look in a week or so.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Oh forgot to mention that the current SVN doesn't build due to a source
+</I>&gt;<i> file mismatch... Updating the spec to  match the binary version (which
+</I>&gt;<i> is newer) works fine and the patches still apply. It's just the jump up
+</I>&gt;<i> to 4.1.5 that causes the patches not to apply.
+</I>
+Actually, just looking at things, it seems upstream has included tcb
+support... sadly the patch committed upstream is quite different to the
+version we have :(
+
+I guess someone will have to do a fair bit of testing before we can use
+this.
+
+Might be best to stick with 4.1.4.3 (small update to what we have
+currently) but backport the fix for CVE-2005-4890...
+
+Then look at updating after mga2.
+
+Tho' if someone does want to look I wouldn't necessarily be against it.
+
+Col
+
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+-- 
+
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+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
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+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
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+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> Revision: 3118
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+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message:
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> wrote:
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Revision: 3118
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Author:   kamil
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Date:     2012-02-28 12:57:44 +0100 (Tue, 28 Feb 2012)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> -----------
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - mark a new release and copy it into tags/1:2-4
+</I>&gt;<i> Version 1:2-4 ? What does this version number mean ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>epoch:version-release
+If I am not mistaken there is just version 2 for Mageia 2 and just the 
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+&gt;<i> On 28.02.2012 14:24, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Revision: 3118
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Author: &#160; kamil
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Date: &#160; &#160; 2012-02-28 12:57:44 +0100 (Tue, 28 Feb 2012)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -----------
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - mark a new release and copy it into tags/1:2-4
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Version 1:2-4 ? What does this version number mean ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> epoch:version-release
+</I>&gt;<i> If I am not mistaken there is just version 2 for Mageia 2 and just the
+</I>&gt;<i> release is bumping.
+</I>
+epoch is a rpm concept, used when the software version decreases, it
+has no meaning for the software itself
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 13:31, Kamil Rytarowski&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 28.02.2012 14:24, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, 28 Feb 2012, <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A> wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Revision: 3118
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Author:   kamil
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Date:     2012-02-28 12:57:44 +0100 (Tue, 28 Feb 2012)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> -----------
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - mark a new release and copy it into tags/1:2-4
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Version 1:2-4 ? What does this version number mean ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> epoch:version-release
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If I am not mistaken there is just version 2 for Mageia 2 and just the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release is bumping.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> epoch is a rpm concept, used when the software version decreases, it
+</I>&gt;<i> has no meaning for the software itself
+</I>And release also. A software has just a version number.
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Anyway, I've just tried this with a few packages. In future, I might
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically even do:
+</I>&gt;<i>   mgarepo ci -m &quot;new version&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>   mgarepo submit
+</I>&gt;<i> But I want to first do more testing, plus add SHA256 verification (what
+</I>&gt;<i> GNOME uses and advises).
+</I>
+I've hooked up mga-gnome against the ftp-release-list emails[1].
+Whenever a tarball is placed upon ftp.gnome.org, the script will run
+and:
+- determine the package name
+  Note: Currently aborts if there are multiple possible packages.. e.g.
+  gtk+ tarball has gtk+2.0 and gtk+3.0 packages. Something to fix in a
+  future version.
+- validate version change
+  to preventing go from stable-&gt;unstable
+- increase version, reset release
+- download tarball
+- verify SHA256 hash and that patches still apply
+- commit changes
+- submit build
+
+Note that I just run this on my own machine. It requires manual work
+whenever I reboot (ssh public key), so not 100% reliable (on purpose).
+
+It'll submit stuff often before I'd have time to look at any build
+errors, so please look at any build error submitted be me :)
+
+
+[1] <A HREF="http://mail.gnome.org/archives/ftp-release-list/">http://mail.gnome.org/archives/ftp-release-list/</A>
+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+    <B>Guillaume Rousse</B> 
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+&gt;<i> (and certainly will cause problems when we do the
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr consolidation for mga3).
+</I>Sure. Let's do it right now, we'll have less problems later :)
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+    <B>Olav Vitters</B> 
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+&gt;<i> I'm seeing huge memory usage by gnome-shell/mutter 3.3.90 over time.
+</I>&gt;<i> Restarting it avoids OOM issues. I wasn't sure if it was a local problem
+</I>&gt;<i> or not, but saw one confirmation.
+</I>
+Upstream suggested to apply a patch.
+
+|<i> <A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=642652">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=642652</A>
+</I>|<i>   gnome-shell | general | 3.2.x
+</I>|<i> 
+</I>|<i> --- Comment #139 from Jasper St. Pierre &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jstpierre at mecheye.net</A>&gt; 2012-02-28 04:27:28 UTC ---
+</I>|<i> (In reply to comment #137)
+</I>|<i> &gt; Seeins also high memory usage with 3.3.90 (growing to 1.3GB within 12 hours or
+</I>|<i> &gt; so). Doing nothing special and no extensions installed.
+</I>|<i> 
+</I>|<i> This is entirely my fault.
+</I>|<i> <A HREF="http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/?id=d2aab9d6a620f561e71a884ff5c44ec0bb654f9a">http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/?id=d2aab9d6a620f561e71a884ff5c44ec0bb654f9a</A>
+</I>|<i> should fix it.
+</I>
+gnome-shell-3.3.90-2.mga2 is building at the moment with this patch included.
+
+-- 
+Regards,
+Olav
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Olav Vitters at 28/02/12 16:12 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 09:19:40AM +0100, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'm seeing huge memory usage by gnome-shell/mutter 3.3.90 over time.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Restarting it avoids OOM issues. I wasn't sure if it was a local problem
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or not, but saw one confirmation.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Upstream suggested to apply a patch.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> | <A HREF="https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=642652">https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=642652</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> |   gnome-shell | general | 3.2.x
+</I>&gt;<i> | 
+</I>&gt;<i> | --- Comment #139 from Jasper St. Pierre &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jstpierre at mecheye.net</A>&gt; 2012-02-28 04:27:28 UTC ---
+</I>&gt;<i> | (In reply to comment #137)
+</I>&gt;<i> | &gt; Seeins also high memory usage with 3.3.90 (growing to 1.3GB within 12 hours or
+</I>&gt;<i> | &gt; so). Doing nothing special and no extensions installed.
+</I>&gt;<i> | 
+</I>&gt;<i> | This is entirely my fault.
+</I>&gt;<i> | <A HREF="http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/?id=d2aab9d6a620f561e71a884ff5c44ec0bb654f9a">http://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-shell/commit/?id=d2aab9d6a620f561e71a884ff5c44ec0bb654f9a</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> | should fix it.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome-shell-3.3.90-2.mga2 is building at the moment with this patch included.
+</I>
+Kick ass!
+
+Col
+
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+&gt;<i> wally &lt;wally&gt; 1:2-30.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 215849
+</I>&gt;<i> - install lxdm (not gdm) when choosing xfce
+</I>
+This would better be done in task-xfce IMHO
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+&gt;<i> On 28 February 2012 18:56, wally &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wally &lt;wally&gt; 1:2-30.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; + Revision: 215849
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - install lxdm (not gdm) when choosing xfce
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> This would better be done in task-xfce IMHO
+</I>
+But if it's an suggests instead of a requires in the spec, lxdm will not
+be in the isos :&#254;
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+&gt;<i> mitya &lt;mitya&gt; 3.3.90-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 215887
+</I>&gt;<i> - bump release
+</I>&gt;<i> - Fix GNOME bug #669294 (will be merged upstream in 3.3.91+)
+</I>
+If you forget to increase the release, you can do something like:
+SILENT: bump release
+
+anything with SILENT on the line is hidden.
+
+and no need to mention you're bumping the release; if you didn't, the
+buildsystem wouldn't allow you to submit
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+-- 
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+&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 09:19:46PM +0100, mitya wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mitya &lt;mitya&gt; 3.3.90-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; + Revision: 215887
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - bump release
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Fix GNOME bug #669294 (will be merged upstream in 3.3.91+)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> If you forget to increase the release, you can do something like:
+</I>&gt;<i> SILENT: bump release
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> anything with SILENT on the line is hidden.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> and no need to mention you're bumping the release; if you didn't, the
+</I>&gt;<i> buildsystem wouldn't allow you to submit
+</I>
+and you can also modify the svn commit log so that future changelog entries 
+will look good
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+<PRE>2012/2/29 Manuel Hiebel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">manuel at hiebel.eu</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Le mardi 28 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 20:05 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 28 February 2012 18:56, wally &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; wally &lt;wally&gt; 1:2-30.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; + Revision: 215849
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; - install lxdm (not gdm) when choosing xfce
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> This would better be done in task-xfce IMHO
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But if it's an suggests instead of a requires in the spec, lxdm will not
+</I>&gt;<i> be in the isos :&#254;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Wait, really?
+I mean the suggested rpms will not be in the ISOs.
+
+Thanks for the info.
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 11:24:22PM +0100, mitya wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; mitya &lt;mitya&gt; 0.12.1-3.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; + Revision: 213565
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Fix build (see GNOME bug #669378)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Cool! Couldn't figure out where the bug was (cogl, vala, libchamplain,
+</I>&gt;<i> etc), so nice to see it is magically resolved :)
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>
+Magician speaking. :)
+
+In fact, I just wanted to update my system to latest Cauldron, and
+decided to fix it myself :) Feel free to contact me if you face any
+problems with Vala/GObjectIntrospection/GJS/etc.
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+    <B>Dimitri Jakov</B> 
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+&gt;<i> Name &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: evolution &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Relocations: (not relocatable)
+</I>&gt;<i> Version &#160; &#160; : 3.3.90 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Vendor: Mageia.Org
+</I>&gt;<i> Release &#160; &#160; : 2.mga2 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Build Date: Tue Feb 28 21:07:48 2012
+</I>&gt;<i> Install Date: (not installed) &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Build Host: ecosse.mageia.org
+</I>&gt;<i> Group &#160; &#160; &#160; : Networking/Mail &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; Source RPM: (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Size &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;: 12733997 &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; License: LGPLv2+
+</I>&gt;<i> Signature &#160; : (none)
+</I>&gt;<i> Packager &#160; &#160;: mitya &lt;mitya&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> URL &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160; : <A HREF="http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/">http://www.gnome.org/projects/evolution/</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Summary &#160; &#160; : Integrated GNOME mail client, calendar and address book
+</I>&gt;<i> Description :
+</I>&gt;<i> Evolution is the GNOME mailer, calendar, contact manager and
+</I>&gt;<i> communications tool. &#160;The tools which make up Evolution will
+</I>&gt;<i> be tightly integrated with one another and act as a seamless
+</I>&gt;<i> personal information-management tool.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> mitya &lt;mitya&gt; 3.3.90-2.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 215887
+</I>&gt;<i> - bump release
+</I>&gt;<i> - Fix GNOME bug #669294 (will be merged upstream in 3.3.91+)
+</I>
+Aand the bug was about what? Please include short (oneliner)
+description about the bug next time.
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+&gt;<i> Yep guys, just forgotten to bump release stupidly (twice! :) Promise
+</I>&gt;<i> that won't happen anymore :)
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+You should look at my commit history and grep for the number of &quot;SILENT&quot;
+comments :P
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+&gt;<i> and no need to mention you're bumping the release; if you didn't, the
+</I>&gt;<i> buildsystem wouldn't allow you to submit
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>There is one bug. If you are rebuilding, without bumping the release, 
+when the previous build was for mgaX and the current is for mgaY (where 
+Y&gt;X) then BS is allowing to build.
+Why this is a bug in my opinion? Because then in case of rebuild for 
+mgaX it is changing into &quot;.%{subrel}%{distsuffix}&quot; and mgaX.1 &gt; mgaY; so 
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+<PRE>On 29 February 2012 09:55, Kamil Rytarowski &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">n54 at gmx.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> and no need to mention you're bumping the release; if you didn't, the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> buildsystem wouldn't allow you to submit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is one bug. If you are rebuilding, without bumping the release, when
+</I>&gt;<i> the previous build was for mgaX and the current is for mgaY (where Y&gt;X) then
+</I>&gt;<i> BS is allowing to build.
+</I>&gt;<i> Why this is a bug in my opinion? Because then in case of rebuild for mgaX it
+</I>&gt;<i> is changing into &quot;.%{subrel}%{distsuffix}&quot; and mgaX.1 &gt; mgaY; so it's
+</I>&gt;<i> impossible to update.
+</I>
+You got a point.
+But in that case, every gnome package has seen huge version bump anyway
+since mga1, so it's not an issue in _this_ particular case through it
+would be better if BS would enforce bumping release number whatever
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+&gt;<i> On 29.02.2012 00:10, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and no need to mention you're bumping the release; if you didn't, the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> buildsystem wouldn't allow you to submit
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There is one bug. If you are rebuilding, without bumping the release, when 
+</I>&gt;<i> the previous build was for mgaX and the current is for mgaY (where Y&gt;X) 
+</I>&gt;<i> then BS is allowing to build.
+</I>
+That's not a bug, if you are rebuilding the same package on a new mageia
+release without any change to the spec file, there is no need to bump
+the release.
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+&gt;<i> On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 29.02.2012 00:10, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and no need to mention you're bumping the release; if you didn't, the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> buildsystem wouldn't allow you to submit
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> There is one bug. If you are rebuilding, without bumping the release, when
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the previous build was for mgaX and the current is for mgaY (where Y&gt;X)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> then BS is allowing to build.
+</I>&gt;<i> That's not a bug, if you are rebuilding the same package on a new mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> release without any change to the spec file, there is no need to bump
+</I>&gt;<i> the release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>But what will happen if a package will be updated in an old Mageia 
+release? Then it won't be updateable without bumping release for a newer 
+Mga release.
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 29.02.2012 11:26, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 29.02.2012 00:10, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and no need to mention you're bumping the release; if you didn't, the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> buildsystem wouldn't allow you to submit
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There is one bug. If you are rebuilding, without bumping the release,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> when
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the previous build was for mgaX and the current is for mgaY (where Y&gt;X)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> then BS is allowing to build.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's not a bug, if you are rebuilding the same package on a new mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release without any change to the spec file, there is no need to bump
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the release.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But what will happen if a package will be updated in an old Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> release? Then it won't be updateable without bumping release for a newer
+</I>&gt;<i> Mga release.
+</I>No, because updating is done using subrel
+And e.g. 2.1.mga1 &lt; 2.mga2
+
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+<PRE>On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
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+&gt;<i> On 29.02.2012 11:26, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 29.02.2012 00:10, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and no need to mention you're bumping the release; if you didn't, the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> buildsystem wouldn't allow you to submit
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There is one bug. If you are rebuilding, without bumping the release, when
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the previous build was for mgaX and the current is for mgaY (where Y&gt;X)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> then BS is allowing to build.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's not a bug, if you are rebuilding the same package on a new mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release without any change to the spec file, there is no need to bump
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the release.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But what will happen if a package will be updated in an old Mageia release? 
+</I>&gt;<i> Then it won't be updateable without bumping release for a newer Mga 
+</I>&gt;<i> release.
+</I>
+Yes. But if an update is needed in old Mageia release, it probably also
+require an update in newer Mageia release.
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+&gt;<i> On 29.02.2012 11:26, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 29.02.2012 00:10, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and no need to mention you're bumping the release; if you didn't, the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> buildsystem wouldn't allow you to submit
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There is one bug. If you are rebuilding, without bumping the release,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> when
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the previous build was for mgaX and the current is for mgaY (where Y&gt;X)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> then BS is allowing to build.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> That's not a bug, if you are rebuilding the same package on a new mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release without any change to the spec file, there is no need to bump
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the release.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But what will happen if a package will be updated in an old Mageia
+</I>&gt;<i> release? Then it won't be updateable without bumping release for a newer
+</I>&gt;<i> Mga release.
+</I>No, because updating is done using subrel
+And e.g. 2.1.mga1 &lt; 2.mga2
+
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+&gt;<i> Am 29.02.2012 11:31, schrieb Kamil Rytarowski:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 29.02.2012 11:26, nicolas vigier wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, 29 Feb 2012, Kamil Rytarowski wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 29.02.2012 00:10, Olav Vitters wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> and no need to mention you're bumping the release; if you didn't, the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> buildsystem wouldn't allow you to submit
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> There is one bug. If you are rebuilding, without bumping the release,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> when
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the previous build was for mgaX and the current is for mgaY (where Y&gt;X)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> then BS is allowing to build.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> That's not a bug, if you are rebuilding the same package on a new mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> release without any change to the spec file, there is no need to bump
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the release.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But what will happen if a package will be updated in an old Mageia
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release? Then it won't be updateable without bumping release for a newer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Mga release.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, because updating is done using subrel
+</I>&gt;<i> And e.g. 2.1.mga1 &lt; 2.mga2
+</I>
+Sadly, no, 2.1.mga1 &gt; 2.mga2
+But I would expect that an update to a stable release also needs to be
+done on newer ones if the package was not changed.
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> fwang &lt;fwang&gt; 1.14.2-1.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 215767
+</I>&gt;<i> - new version 1.14.2
+</I>
+argh, somes files are in both aria2 and aria2-doc.
+However, on upgrade, they'll never be in the same transaction as the former
+will be upgraded first with other priority packages whereas the later will
+only be updated after urpmi restarts
+
+Thus when the later is installed, upgrade failed:
+
+Installation failed:
+    file /usr/share/doc/aria2/NEWS from install of
+aria2-1.14.2-1.mga2.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
+aria2-doc-1.14.1-1.mga2.noarch
+    file /usr/share/doc/aria2/README.asciidoc from install of
+aria2-1.14.2-1.mga2.x86_64 conflicts with file from package
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+    <B>Thierry Vignaud</B> 
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+&gt;<i> dams &lt;dams&gt; 1.1.11-3.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> + Revision: 216185
+</I>&gt;<i> - Add 'Provides: dm' (bug #4532)
+</I>
+This is wrong IMHO as the only packages that requires or suggest dm are:
+- xguest
+- task-xfce-minimal
+
+xguest didn't work with xdm and task-xfce-minimal had better require the dm it
+wants like task-gnome &amp; task-kde do
+
+So I think this should be reverted. Let's fix task-xfce-minimal instead.
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+&gt;<i> 2012/2/29 Manuel Hiebel &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">manuel at hiebel.eu</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Le mardi 28 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 20:05 +0100, Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; On 28 February 2012 18:56, wally &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; wally &lt;wally&gt; 1:2-30.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; + Revision: 215849
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; - install lxdm (not gdm) when choosing xfce
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; This would better be done in task-xfce IMHO
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But if it's an suggests instead of a requires in the spec, lxdm will not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; be in the isos :&#254;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> Wait, really?
+</I>&gt;<i> I mean the suggested rpms will not be in the ISOs.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>yes <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4690#c5">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4690#c5</A>
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+&gt;<i> Thanks for the info.
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+&gt;<i> On 29 February 2012 17:08, dams&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> dams&lt;dams&gt;  1.1.11-3.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 216185
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Add 'Provides: dm' (bug #4532)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> This is wrong IMHO as the only packages that requires or suggest dm are:
+</I>&gt;<i> - xguest
+</I>&gt;<i> - task-xfce-minimal
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> xguest didn't work with xdm and task-xfce-minimal had better require the dm it
+</I>&gt;<i> wants like task-gnome&amp;  task-kde do
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So I think this should be reverted. Let's fix task-xfce-minimal instead.
+</I>
+Which brings back the question, which of our dms should provide dm?
+
+As I see it, we have kdm, gdm, lxdm, slim and xdm, kdm, gdm, lxdm and 
+slim do provide dm and now xdm does, too.
+
+Imho slim and xdm are not full featured dms like the other:
+you can't choose the desktop to be started, you don't get a list of 
+users and so on.
+I just checked, lxdm does work together with xguest.
+
+At the moment, task-kde4 does require kdm, task-gnome does require gdm, 
+task-xfce does require gdm and dm and task-lxde does require lxdm.
+
+Somehow we should order this.
+
+Oliver
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+&gt;<i> Am 29.02.2012 17:34, schrieb Thierry Vignaud:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 29 February 2012 17:08, dams&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; dams&lt;dams&gt;  1.1.11-3.mga2:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; + Revision: 216185
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; - Add 'Provides: dm' (bug #4532)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This is wrong IMHO as the only packages that requires or suggest dm are:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - xguest
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - task-xfce-minimal
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; xguest didn't work with xdm and task-xfce-minimal had better require the dm it
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; wants like task-gnome&amp;  task-kde do
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; So I think this should be reverted. Let's fix task-xfce-minimal instead.
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> Which brings back the question, which of our dms should provide dm?
+</I>
+None ?
+
+After all, if dm is used for xguest, the provides used should reflect
+that.
+
+For drakdm, I think there is a hardcoded list, and as you say, every
+task-* pull a prefered dm.
+
+So what is it used for, except asking question to users ( and most that
+would not care or not know what it mean ) ?
+
+-- 
+Michael Scherer
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Aand the bug was about what? Please include short (oneliner)
+</I>&gt;<i> description about the bug next time.
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+Okay, will do next time. This particular one is about Evolution not
+remembering the state of &quot;SMTP requires authentication&quot; checkbox (always
+off). This bug was introduced in Evolution 3.2. For me it means that it
+wasn't capable of sending any emails, since all my mail providers
+require authentication. This will be fixed in 3.3.91+, but it can take
+weeks for it to be released, so I decided to backport a patch to have a
+working mail client right now.
+
+For those, who will update Evolution next time: don't forget to drop
+this patch.
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+&gt;<i> Le lundi 27 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 11:02 +0100, Z&#233;zinho a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; can a sysadmin please drop python-xpcom from cauldron?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It was needed by sugar-browse-activity, but it now uses webkit...
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> No chance of people using it by itself ?
+</I>
+No : it is not maintained upstream, I imported it for sugar, then it went 
+dropped by sugar...
+
+The time I can watch it, Funda has done the task-obsolete for me. Thanks!
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+    <B>Colin Guthrie</B> 
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Michael Scherer at 29/02/12 17:59 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Le mercredi 29 f&#233;vrier 2012 &#224; 18:44 +0100, Oliver Burger a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Am 29.02.2012 17:34, schrieb Thierry Vignaud:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On 29 February 2012 17:08, dams&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org</A>&gt;  wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> dams&lt;dams&gt;  1.1.11-3.mga2:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> + Revision: 216185
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Add 'Provides: dm' (bug #4532)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> This is wrong IMHO as the only packages that requires or suggest dm are:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - xguest
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - task-xfce-minimal
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> xguest didn't work with xdm and task-xfce-minimal had better require the dm it
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wants like task-gnome&amp;  task-kde do
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> So I think this should be reverted. Let's fix task-xfce-minimal instead.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Which brings back the question, which of our dms should provide dm?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> None ?
+</I>&gt;<i> 
+</I>&gt;<i> After all, if dm is used for xguest, the provides used should reflect
+</I>&gt;<i> that.
+</I>...
+&gt;<i> So what is it used for, except asking question to users ( and most that
+</I>&gt;<i> would not care or not know what it mean ) ?
+</I>
+Just as a comment, fedora uses a virtual provides for display managers
+in it's prefdm script. We don't use that, but it's maybe worth keeping
+for that reason?
+
+e.g. see the rpm bits here:
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/git/initscripts/tree/prefdm">http://colin.guthr.ie/git/initscripts/tree/prefdm</A>
+
+Like I say, our prefdm is not using this approach, and in my opinion, dm
+packages should drop a config file in e.g. /etc/X11/dm.d/ or similar and
+we can use that when starting X stuff rather than hardcoding it all in
+prefdm...
+
+Col
+
+
+-- 
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
+<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A>
+
+Day Job:
+  Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A>
+Open Source:
+  Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A>
+  PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A>
+  Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A>
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+    <B>Kamil Rytarowski</B> 
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+<PRE>On 29.02.2012 18:44, Oliver Burger wrote:
+&gt;<i> Imho slim and xdm are not full featured dms like the other:
+</I>&gt;<i> you can't choose the desktop to be started,
+</I>Use F1.
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+    <B>Oliver Burger</B> 
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+       TITLE="[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] General assembly convocation">oliver.bgr at googlemail.com
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+<PRE>2012/1/22 Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Like last year, our general assembly will take place in Bruxelles the
+</I>&gt;<i> 4th of February, during the FOSDEM[0] in Universit&#233; Libre de Bruxelles,
+</I>&gt;<i> on the Solboch campus. The exact room and time is not yet decided, but
+</I>&gt;<i> should be in the afternoon and in one of the 2 rooms proposed by FOSDEM
+</I>&gt;<i> for such events[1], so people wishing to attend it will need to take
+</I>&gt;<i> contact with the association on the booth in the K building to get the
+</I>&gt;<i> exact location and date once we will know.
+</I>
+The general assembly will take place on 15.00 in the BOF room of the
+AW building.
+
+See you there,
+
+Oliver
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+<LI><A HREF="011831.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
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+<LI><A HREF="011839.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="011825.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011952.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
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+<LI><A HREF="011955.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
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+<LI><A HREF="011970.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011977.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
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+<LI><A HREF="011989.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
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+<I>Thomas Backlund
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+<LI><A HREF="011995.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012023.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	rsyslog-5.8.6-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012155.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12155">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
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+<I>Thomas Backlund
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+<I>Thomas Backlund
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+<LI><A HREF="012281.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="012296.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
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+<I>John Balcaen
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+</A><A NAME="11702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="011779.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011792.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
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+<LI><A HREF="011795.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="011797.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011804.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011805.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011941.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011942.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011947.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011951.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011953.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011954.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011956.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012006.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="12006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011718.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
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+<LI><A HREF="011725.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="011742.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
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+<LI><A HREF="011743.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
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+<LI><A HREF="011744.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011746.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011763.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011791.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012029.html">[Mageia-dev] Current kernel leads to crash
+</A><A NAME="12029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012031.html">[Mageia-dev] Current kernel leads to crash
+</A><A NAME="12031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012052.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012064.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12064">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012083.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12083">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012085.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012143.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost	2 days
+</A><A NAME="12143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012150.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012153.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12153">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012154.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12154">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012157.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12157">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012171.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012168.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011871.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mahmut Bulut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="016383.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] General assembly convocation
+</A><A NAME="16383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011878.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011881.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2935] - fix broken translation (patch from Jarom?\195?\173r C?\195?\161p? \195?\173k)
+</A><A NAME="11881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012053.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012055.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012057.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012061.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012070.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost	2 days
+</A><A NAME="12070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012100.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012126.html">[Mageia-dev] xscreensaver
+</A><A NAME="12126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012261.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012438.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012440.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012446.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012325.html">[Mageia-dev] Binrepo issue
+</A><A NAME="12325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012328.html">[Mageia-dev] Binrepo issue
+</A><A NAME="12328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011713.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011716.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011717.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011720.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011721.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011730.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011756.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011777.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011812.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012030.html">[Mageia-dev] Current kernel leads to crash
+</A><A NAME="12030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Henrik Christiansen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012114.html">[Mageia-dev] libavformat needs libavfilter needs libavformat
+</A><A NAME="12114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012112.html">[Mageia-dev] p11-kit needs libp11-kit needs p11-kit
+</A><A NAME="12112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012292.html">[Mageia-dev] Article in Linux Today News
+</A><A NAME="12292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011700.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [203801] imported package	rubygem-ruby-debug
+</A><A NAME="11700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011733.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011784.html">[Mageia-dev] problem with obsoleting packages
+</A><A NAME="11784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011819.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011836.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011891.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011944.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012137.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012183.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012192.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012204.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm default theme (was: icewm package	re-organize?)
+</A><A NAME="12204">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012208.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012369.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12369">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012382.html">[Mageia-dev] BS down
+</A><A NAME="12382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012411.html">[Mageia-dev] binrepo offline?
+</A><A NAME="12411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012412.html">[Mageia-dev] binrepo offline?
+</A><A NAME="12412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011847.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	edje-1.1.0-0.r67830.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011848.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	embryo-1.1.0-0.r67715.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011990.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Denielou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011992.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Denielou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011864.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011896.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012351.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12351">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012362.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12362">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011683.html">[Mageia-dev] [FOSDEM] saturday evening dinner
+</A><A NAME="11683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011693.html">[Mageia-dev] oxygen-gtk tabs freezed?
+</A><A NAME="11693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011738.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="11738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012046.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012173.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012176.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012399.html">[Mageia-dev] xinit upgraded to 1.3.2
+</A><A NAME="12399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012012.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dracut-015-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012036.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release dracut-015-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011774.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011783.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011967.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012391.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012396.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011961.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kyle Fletcher
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011684.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011687.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011691.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011762.html">[Mageia-dev] USB Flash drive broken since latest Cauldron updates
+</A><A NAME="11762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012017.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012020.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012022.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012102.html">[Mageia-dev] Unetbooting and extlinx - strange issue
+</A><A NAME="12102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012101.html">[Mageia-dev] Unetbooting and extlinx - strange issue
+</A><A NAME="12101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011950.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012071.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012072.html">[Mageia-dev] k(m)ahjongg packages
+</A><A NAME="12072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012158.html">[Mageia-dev] package default settings question
+</A><A NAME="12158">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lev Givon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012193.html">[Mageia-dev] python-virtualenv: package default settings	question
+</A><A NAME="12193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lev Givon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011853.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011860.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package	with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011862.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011863.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011873.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011879.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011885.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011887.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011889.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011908.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package?with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012356.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuilds needed ?
+</A><A NAME="12356">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011692.html">[Mageia-dev] Media mounting broken
+</A><A NAME="11692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011707.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011709.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011902.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011905.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="11905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011906.html">[Mageia-dev] mgasoft
+</A><A NAME="11906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011935.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011936.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011972.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011973.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011980.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011983.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011994.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011996.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012008.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012016.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dracut-015-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012019.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012021.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012024.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	rsyslog-5.8.6-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012027.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012034.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012039.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dracut-015-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012163.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12163">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012178.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with  rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012179.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012180.html">[Mageia-dev] hicolor-icon-theme question
+</A><A NAME="12180">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012185.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12185">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012187.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12187">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012191.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012225.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with  rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012273.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012274.html">[Mageia-dev] Order of nics when multiple network interfaces	detected.
+</A><A NAME="12274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012276.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012311.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012313.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012314.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012366.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="12366">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012367.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks moved to usr ?
+</A><A NAME="12367">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012368.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12368">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012374.html">[Mageia-dev] Order of nics when multiple network interfaces	detected.
+</A><A NAME="12374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012393.html">[Mageia-dev] Two versions of udisks
+</A><A NAME="12393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012394.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME-shell/mutter 3.3.90 memory usage
+</A><A NAME="12394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012395.html">[Mageia-dev] xinit upgraded to 1.3.2
+</A><A NAME="12395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012398.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012402.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Replace module-init-tools by kmod?
+</A><A NAME="12402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012414.html">[Mageia-dev] shadow-utils
+</A><A NAME="12414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012415.html">[Mageia-dev] shadow-utils
+</A><A NAME="12415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012416.html">[Mageia-dev] shadow-utils
+</A><A NAME="12416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012424.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME-shell/mutter 3.3.90 memory usage
+</A><A NAME="12424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012450.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011786.html">[Mageia-dev] problem with obsoleting packages
+</A><A NAME="11786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011909.html">[Mageia-dev] mgasoft
+</A><A NAME="11909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012002.html">[Mageia-dev] mgarepo log regression? (was:	c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2)
+</A><A NAME="12002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012003.html">[Mageia-dev] mgarepo log regression?
+</A><A NAME="12003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012093.html">[Mageia-dev] chroot for mageia 1; db42_load?
+</A><A NAME="12093">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012170.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012285.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012287.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012379.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="12379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012403.html">[Mageia-dev] changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	mplayer-1.0-1.rc4.0.r34578.2.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="12403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011916.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011920.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011925.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports (WAS: Beta 1 isos)
+</A><A NAME="11925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011712.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011938.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011939.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012216.html">[Mageia-dev] Cinnamon
+</A><A NAME="12216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012240.html">[Mageia-dev] Little proposal of rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012242.html">[Mageia-dev] Little proposal of rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012350.html">[Mageia-dev] Something to replace Mandriva Seed - Rufus
+</A><A NAME="12350">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012397.html">[Mageia-dev] changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release mplayer-1.0-1.rc4.0.r34578.2.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="12397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012426.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release meta-task-2-30.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012445.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release meta-task-2-30.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011701.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011703.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011959.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011960.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012010.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012015.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012033.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012038.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012200.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with  rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12200">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012207.html">[Mageia-dev] Unetbooting and extlinx - strange issue
+</A><A NAME="12207">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012259.html">[Mageia-dev] Order of nics when multiple network interfaces	detected.
+</A><A NAME="12259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012304.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012306.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012340.html">[Mageia-dev] Order of nics when multiple network interfaces detected.
+</A><A NAME="12340">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012341.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12341">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011682.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2851] Add hime; remove chinput, kinput2, oxim, xcin.
+</A><A NAME="11682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011694.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE 4.8 updates and panel issues
+</A><A NAME="11694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011915.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012167.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012177.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12177">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012201.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm default theme (was: icewm package re-organize?)
+</A><A NAME="12201">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012205.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm default theme (was: icewm package	re-organize?)
+</A><A NAME="12205">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012260.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012343.html">[Mageia-dev] Icewm package re-organized in Caldron
+</A><A NAME="12343">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012429.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	meta-task-2-30.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011728.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="11728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011748.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011750.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011766.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call for	participation
+</A><A NAME="11766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011775.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011785.html">[Mageia-dev] -- mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey	package]
+</A><A NAME="11785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011843.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011866.html">[Mageia-dev] Putting meta-information in Mageia patches
+</A><A NAME="11866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011932.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="11932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011933.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011940.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011943.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011982.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012018.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Nonresponsive or absent package maintainers &amp;	policy discussion
+</A><A NAME="12018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012130.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012220.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012239.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012249.html">[Mageia-dev] Something to replace Mandriva Seed - Rufus
+</A><A NAME="12249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012392.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="12392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012407.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012074.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012430.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libchamplain-0.12.1-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012431.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012448.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011711.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011741.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012266.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012270.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011695.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE 4.8 updates and panel issues
+</A><A NAME="11695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012049.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012139.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011758.html">[Mageia-dev] -- mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011894.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2935] - fix broken translation (patch from Jarom&#237;r C&#225;p&#237;k)
+</A><A NAME="11894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012358.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12358">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012377.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011968.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andres Kaaber
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011697.html">[Mageia-dev] scummvm error at build : hint welcome
+</A><A NAME="11697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012026.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012032.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012404.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011732.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011737.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011832.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012268.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012300.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012312.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012316.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012318.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012215.html">[Mageia-dev] Cinnamon
+</A><A NAME="12215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012250.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012252.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012254.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011761.html">[Mageia-dev] where are the live-isos? (was: Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze)
+</A><A NAME="11761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011922.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012218.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012339.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12339">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011771.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011811.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011958.html">[Mageia-dev] Handling of tty1 [was Can't switch to virtual consoles]
+</A><A NAME="11958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012129.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox craches on libstdc++
+</A><A NAME="12129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012301.html">[Mageia-dev] Update blocked on i586
+</A><A NAME="12301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012331.html">[Mageia-dev] Update blocked on i586
+</A><A NAME="12331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012346.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks moved to usr ?
+</A><A NAME="12346">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012385.html">[Mageia-dev] Two versions of udisks
+</A><A NAME="12385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011904.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011913.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011949.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012037.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012347.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12347">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011903.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012271.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012277.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012279.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011835.html">[Mageia-dev] First impression on Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mitya
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011739.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	monodevelop-2.8.6.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011918.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011809.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2922] fix isolinux.bin (syslinux 4)
+</A><A NAME="11809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011842.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012219.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012251.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012253.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012263.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011975.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011985.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012035.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012048.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012054.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012063.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012099.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since	almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12099">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012106.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost	2 days
+</A><A NAME="12106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012136.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012141.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012195.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012198.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012221.html">[Mageia-dev] python-virtualenv: package default settings	question
+</A><A NAME="12221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012278.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012282.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011731.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Talus Portugal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011971.html">[Mageia-dev] [URGENT] SVN down for ~30minutes
+</A><A NAME="11971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012211.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012213.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012149.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012069.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2	days
+</A><A NAME="12069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Revillet
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011856.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011917.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011924.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports (WAS: Beta 1 isos)
+</A><A NAME="11924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011926.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports (WAS: Beta 1 isos)
+</A><A NAME="11926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012229.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012262.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012233.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012295.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012297.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012337.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12337">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012338.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12338">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012359.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12359">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012275.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012283.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012406.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011686.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	bugzilla-4.0.4-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011688.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011768.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call for participation
+</A><A NAME="11768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011907.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011948.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011969.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011998.html">[Mageia-dev] Cleaning up GNOME spec files
+</A><A NAME="11998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012050.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012094.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12094">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012109.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	postfix-2.8.8-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012138.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012148.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012236.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3012] Add ability to increase the version number of a given package
+</A><A NAME="12236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012372.html">[Mageia-dev] ConsoleKit vs systemd session tracking for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="12372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012383.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dovecot-1.2.17-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012420.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3118] - mark a new release and copy it into tags/1:2-4
+</A><A NAME="12420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012422.html">[Mageia-dev] shadow-utils
+</A><A NAME="12422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011705.html">[Mageia-dev] exfat support in Mga2
+</A><A NAME="11705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011708.html">[Mageia-dev] exfat support in Mga2
+</A><A NAME="11708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011749.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011751.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011757.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011782.html">[Mageia-dev] problem with obsoleting packages
+</A><A NAME="11782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011789.html">[Mageia-dev] problem with obsoleting packages
+</A><A NAME="11789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011803.html">[Mageia-dev] Change in locales (Kashubian removed from the Polish	package)
+</A><A NAME="11803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011810.html">[Mageia-dev] Change in locales (Kashubian removed from the Polish package)
+</A><A NAME="11810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011849.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011869.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011874.html">[Mageia-dev] Myspell/Hunspell Gascon dictionaries - licensing	problem
+</A><A NAME="11874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011929.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011931.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011963.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012009.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012011.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="12011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012040.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012042.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012068.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12068">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012089.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] noarch packages existing only on	x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012090.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] noarch packages existing only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012095.html">[Mageia-dev] Default docks for WindowMaker
+</A><A NAME="12095">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012096.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012120.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	wmdrawer-0.10.5-12.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012127.html">[Mageia-dev] desktop-file-utils and jpackage-utils questions
+</A><A NAME="12127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012133.html">[Mageia-dev] desktop-file-utils and jpackage-utils questions
+</A><A NAME="12133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012166.html">[Mageia-dev] hicolor-icon-theme question
+</A><A NAME="12166">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012169.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012172.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012174.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012209.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012214.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012267.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012303.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012307.html">[Mageia-dev] Volume mixer for Window Maker
+</A><A NAME="12307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012330.html">[Mageia-dev] Volume mixer for Window Maker
+</A><A NAME="12330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012345.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="12345">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012348.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12348">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012388.html">[Mageia-dev] please drop python-xpcom
+</A><A NAME="12388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012418.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3118] - mark a new release and copy it into	tags/1:2-4
+</A><A NAME="12418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012434.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012437.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012451.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011704.html">[Mageia-dev] stardict 3.0.3
+</A><A NAME="11704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011706.html">[Mageia-dev] exfat support in Mga2
+</A><A NAME="11706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011798.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call for participation
+</A><A NAME="11798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011814.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011815.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011876.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011877.html">[Mageia-dev] Myspell/Hunspell Gascon dictionaries - licensing problem
+</A><A NAME="11877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011883.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011884.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011886.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011910.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011911.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011974.html">[Mageia-dev] [URGENT] SVN down for ~30minutes
+</A><A NAME="11974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012013.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012014.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012059.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012060.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012067.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12067">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012076.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012078.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since	almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012080.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012140.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012232.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012294.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012317.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012320.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012389.html">[Mageia-dev] please drop python-xpcom
+</A><A NAME="12389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012447.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011755.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011799.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012007.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="12007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012087.html">[Mageia-dev] noarch packages existing only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012088.html">[Mageia-dev] noarch packages existing only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012098.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12098">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012165.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12165">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012186.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12186">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012188.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012401.html">[Mageia-dev] changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	mplayer-1.0-1.rc4.0.r34578.2.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="12401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012043.html">[Mageia-dev] http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/ not accessbile	anymore
+</A><A NAME="12043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012190.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012323.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current	status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012324.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012334.html">[Mageia-dev] check on mga1 may needs some changes
+</A><A NAME="12334">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012380.html">[Mageia-dev] BS down
+</A><A NAME="12380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011699.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on x86_64 for	@203879:libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="11699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011724.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] BS tainted section issue?
+</A><A NAME="11724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011754.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011769.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call	for participation
+</A><A NAME="11769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011796.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011818.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011821.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011823.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011827.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011830.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011838.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011858.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011892.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012000.html">[Mageia-dev] Cleaning up GNOME spec files
+</A><A NAME="12000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012001.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012047.html">[Mageia-dev] http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/ not accessbile	anymore
+</A><A NAME="12047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012086.html">[Mageia-dev] noarch packages existing only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012091.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] noarch packages existing only on	x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12091">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012097.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libproxy-0.4.7-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12097">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012107.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libpng-1.5.9-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012108.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012117.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012118.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012121.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012122.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012123.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012184.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012230.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012238.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libproxy-0.4.7-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012241.html">[Mageia-dev] Little proposal of rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012243.html">[Mageia-dev] Little proposal of rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012248.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libproxy-0.4.7-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012256.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012258.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012286.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012322.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012335.html">[Mageia-dev] check on mga1 may needs some changes
+</A><A NAME="12335">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012355.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system broken
+</A><A NAME="12355">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012370.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12370">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012376.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="12376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012378.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="12378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012419.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3118] - mark a new release and copy it into tags/1:2-4
+</A><A NAME="12419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012441.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011685.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't	show	when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011690.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't	show	when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011852.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011875.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012077.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since	almost	2 days
+</A><A NAME="12077">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012159.html">[Mageia-dev] Wifi not working anymore
+</A><A NAME="12159">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012161.html">[Mageia-dev] Wifi not working anymore
+</A><A NAME="12161">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012164.html">[Mageia-dev] Wifi not working anymore
+</A><A NAME="12164">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011978.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Steven Tucker
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011752.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011753.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011759.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011772.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call	for participation
+</A><A NAME="11772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011834.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011841.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011845.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012056.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012066.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12066">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012293.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012308.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012309.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012321.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012336.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3047] - fix wrong dates in the	NEWS file
+</A><A NAME="12336">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012360.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12360">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012381.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dovecot-1.2.17-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012405.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dovecot-1.2.17-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012428.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011689.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011698.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on x86_64 for	@203879:libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="11698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011722.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] BS tainted section issue?
+</A><A NAME="11722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011765.html">[Mageia-dev] USB Flash drive broken since latest Cauldron	updates
+</A><A NAME="11765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011770.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	embryo-1.1.0-0.r67715.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011773.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011776.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011788.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011790.html">[Mageia-dev] [1844] partition_table: align partitions to 1MB	boundaries to avoid
+</A><A NAME="11790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011800.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011807.html">[Mageia-dev] Change in locales (Kashubian removed from the	Polish package)
+</A><A NAME="11807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011808.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2922] fix isolinux.bin (syslinux 4)
+</A><A NAME="11808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011824.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011826.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011829.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011846.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	edje-1.1.0-0.r67830.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011855.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xfce4-session-4.8.2-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011898.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011900.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011937.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011945.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011946.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011962.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011964.html">[Mageia-dev] [URGENT] SVN down for ~30minutes
+</A><A NAME="11964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011981.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011984.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011986.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011987.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011991.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012065.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12065">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012079.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2982] Use Isocheck; tests moved
+</A><A NAME="12079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012103.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dietlibc-0.33-4.20110311.3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012104.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	wmdrawer-0.10.5-12.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012134.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox craches on libstdc++
+</A><A NAME="12134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012189.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012194.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012196.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012206.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12206">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012212.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012223.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3012] Add ability to increase the version number of a given package
+</A><A NAME="12223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012226.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012228.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012244.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012245.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012246.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libproxy-0.4.7-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012247.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012288.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012289.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012290.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012291.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012332.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3047] - fix wrong dates in the	NEWS file
+</A><A NAME="12332">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012425.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	meta-task-2-30.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012435.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012442.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	aria2-1.14.2-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012444.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011760.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011787.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: [opensuse-factory] anyone care for man-in-the-middle CA trustwave.com registrar disaster?
+</A><A NAME="11787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011794.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011801.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011806.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011813.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011822.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011828.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011833.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011837.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011865.html">[Mageia-dev] Putting meta-information in Mageia patches
+</A><A NAME="11865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011880.html">[Mageia-dev] Putting meta-information in Mageia patches
+</A><A NAME="11880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011895.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011897.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011899.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011901.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011966.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011993.html">[Mageia-dev] Cleaning up GNOME spec files
+</A><A NAME="11993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011997.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="11997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011999.html">[Mageia-dev] Cleaning up GNOME spec files
+</A><A NAME="11999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012051.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012058.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012081.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12081">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012082.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12082">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012084.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012105.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging help for GDM+GNOME Mageia background (long)
+</A><A NAME="12105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012142.html">[Mageia-dev] libavformat needs libavfilter needs libavformat
+</A><A NAME="12142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012147.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012151.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012156.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12156">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012162.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12162">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012175.html">[Mageia-dev] hicolor-icon-theme question
+</A><A NAME="12175">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012217.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging help for GDM+GNOME Mageia background (long)
+</A><A NAME="12217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012222.html">[Mageia-dev] Faster GNOME package submission
+</A><A NAME="12222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012224.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3012] Add ability to increase the version number of a given package
+</A><A NAME="12224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012227.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012231.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012235.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012234.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	cogl-1.9.6-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012264.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libchamplain-0.12.1-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012265.html">[Mageia-dev] ConsoleKit vs systemd session tracking for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="12265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012357.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuilds needed ?
+</A><A NAME="12357">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012361.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12361">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012375.html">[Mageia-dev] ConsoleKit vs systemd session tracking for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="12375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012384.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME-shell/mutter 3.3.90 memory usage
+</A><A NAME="12384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012390.html">[Mageia-dev] Obsoleting mail-notification?
+</A><A NAME="12390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012400.html">[Mageia-dev] Obsoleting mail-notification?
+</A><A NAME="12400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012421.html">[Mageia-dev] Faster GNOME package submission
+</A><A NAME="12421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012423.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME-shell/mutter 3.3.90 memory usage
+</A><A NAME="12423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012427.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012433.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011727.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	compiz-0.9.7-0.bzr2979.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011854.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011890.html">[Mageia-dev] First impression on Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011957.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012305.html">[Mageia-dev] Update blocked on i586
+</A><A NAME="12305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012327.html">[Mageia-dev] Binrepo issue
+</A><A NAME="12327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012432.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012146.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since	almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012181.html">[Mageia-dev] python-virtualenv: package default settings	question
+</A><A NAME="12181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012203.html">[Mageia-dev] python-virtualenv: package default settings	question
+</A><A NAME="12203">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011726.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="11726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011767.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call	for participation
+</A><A NAME="11767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011850.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011851.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011867.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011868.html">[Mageia-dev] urw-fonts
+</A><A NAME="11868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011870.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011872.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="11872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011893.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012110.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	postfix-2.8.8-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012111.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012115.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012125.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	phpmyadmin-3.4.10-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012131.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012132.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012144.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012145.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012342.html">[Mageia-dev] check on mga1 may needs some changes
+</A><A NAME="12342">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012344.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system broken
+</A><A NAME="12344">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012352.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="12352">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012353.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12353">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012354.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system broken
+</A><A NAME="12354">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012373.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011729.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011734.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011735.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011736.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011888.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="11888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012073.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xulrunner-10.0.2-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012128.html">[Mageia-dev] desktop-file-utils and jpackage-utils questions
+</A><A NAME="12128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012135.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012182.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012202.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm default theme (was: icewm package	re-organize?)
+</A><A NAME="12202">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012349.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks moved to usr ?
+</A><A NAME="12349">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012386.html">[Mageia-dev] Obsoleting mail-notification?
+</A><A NAME="12386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012410.html">[Mageia-dev] binrepo offline?
+</A><A NAME="12410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012124.html">[Mageia-dev] xscreensaver
+</A><A NAME="12124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Z&#233;zinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012387.html">[Mageia-dev] please drop python-xpcom
+</A><A NAME="12387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Z&#233;zinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011710.html">[Mageia-dev] exfat support in Mga2
+</A><A NAME="11710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011715.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011719.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011745.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011747.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011778.html">[Mageia-dev] -- mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey	package]
+</A><A NAME="11778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011780.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011781.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011912.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012005.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="12005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012075.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012116.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012119.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012280.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012298.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012371.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12371">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012408.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	dovecot-1.2.17-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011923.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012025.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] GSOC 2012
+</A><A NAME="12025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012092.html">[Mageia-dev] chroot for mageia 1; db42_load?
+</A><A NAME="12092">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012113.html">[Mageia-dev] chroot for mageia 1; db42_load?
+</A><A NAME="12113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012310.html">[Mageia-dev] Volume mixer for Window Maker
+</A><A NAME="12310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012329.html">[Mageia-dev] xinit upgraded to 1.3.2
+</A><A NAME="12329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012333.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12333">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012363.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12363">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012210.html">[Mageia-dev] Return of the jedi
+</A><A NAME="12210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011696.html">[Mageia-dev] No meeting tonight
+</A><A NAME="11696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011764.html">[Mageia-dev] where are the live-isos? (was: Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze)
+</A><A NAME="11764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011817.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011840.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011914.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011919.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011921.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011927.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="11927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011928.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="11928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011930.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011934.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012028.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012062.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xulrunner-10.0.2-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012199.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012255.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012257.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012443.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="12443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011979.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>paulo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012409.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 sound scheme?
+</A><A NAME="12409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011723.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] BS tainted section issue?
+</A><A NAME="11723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011740.html">[Mageia-dev] mgasoft
+</A><A NAME="11740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011816.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011820.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011844.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this	wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011859.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package	with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011861.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011976.html">[Mageia-dev] [URGENT] SVN down for ~30minutes
+</A><A NAME="11976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012004.html">[Mageia-dev] mgarepo log regression?
+</A><A NAME="12004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012269.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012284.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012364.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12364">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012365.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing obsolete packages
+</A><A NAME="12365">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012413.html">[Mageia-dev] mgasoft
+</A><A NAME="12413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012417.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3118] - mark a new release and	copy it into	tags/1:2-4
+</A><A NAME="12417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012436.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012439.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011714.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011793.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011857.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011882.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="11882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011965.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011988.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012044.html">[Mageia-dev] check.mageia.org down
+</A><A NAME="12044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012045.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012160.html">[Mageia-dev] Wifi not working anymore
+</A><A NAME="12160">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012237.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012299.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012302.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012315.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012326.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012449.html">[Mageia-dev] please drop python-xpcom
+</A><A NAME="12449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+    </ul>
+    <p>
+      <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> 
+       <i>Wed Feb 29 23:41:53 CET 2012</i><br>
+    <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 16:46:32 CEST 2012</i>
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+      <h1>February 2012 Archives by date</h1>
+      <ul>
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+		
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+	     <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+      </ul>
+      <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Feb  1 03:23:20 CET 2012</i><br>
+         <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Feb 29 23:41:53 CET 2012</i><br>
+         <b>Messages:</b> 771<p>
+     <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011682.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2851] Add hime; remove chinput, kinput2, oxim, xcin.
+</A><A NAME="11682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011683.html">[Mageia-dev] [FOSDEM] saturday evening dinner
+</A><A NAME="11683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011684.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011685.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't	show	when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011686.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	bugzilla-4.0.4-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011687.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011688.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011689.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011690.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't	show	when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011691.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011692.html">[Mageia-dev] Media mounting broken
+</A><A NAME="11692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011693.html">[Mageia-dev] oxygen-gtk tabs freezed?
+</A><A NAME="11693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011694.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE 4.8 updates and panel issues
+</A><A NAME="11694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011695.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE 4.8 updates and panel issues
+</A><A NAME="11695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011696.html">[Mageia-dev] No meeting tonight
+</A><A NAME="11696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011697.html">[Mageia-dev] scummvm error at build : hint welcome
+</A><A NAME="11697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011698.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on x86_64 for	@203879:libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="11698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011699.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on x86_64 for	@203879:libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="11699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011700.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [203801] imported package	rubygem-ruby-debug
+</A><A NAME="11700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011701.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011702.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011703.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011704.html">[Mageia-dev] stardict 3.0.3
+</A><A NAME="11704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011705.html">[Mageia-dev] exfat support in Mga2
+</A><A NAME="11705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011706.html">[Mageia-dev] exfat support in Mga2
+</A><A NAME="11706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011707.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011709.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011708.html">[Mageia-dev] exfat support in Mga2
+</A><A NAME="11708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011710.html">[Mageia-dev] exfat support in Mga2
+</A><A NAME="11710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011711.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011712.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011713.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011714.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011715.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="016383.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] General assembly convocation
+</A><A NAME="16383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011716.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011717.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011718.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011719.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011720.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011721.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011722.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] BS tainted section issue?
+</A><A NAME="11722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011723.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] BS tainted section issue?
+</A><A NAME="11723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011724.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] BS tainted section issue?
+</A><A NAME="11724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011725.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011726.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="11726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011727.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	compiz-0.9.7-0.bzr2979.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011728.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="11728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011729.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011730.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011731.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Talus Portugal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011732.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011733.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011734.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011735.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011736.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011737.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011738.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="11738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011739.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	monodevelop-2.8.6.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011740.html">[Mageia-dev] mgasoft
+</A><A NAME="11740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011741.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011742.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011743.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011744.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011745.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011746.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011747.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011748.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011758.html">[Mageia-dev] -- mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011749.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011750.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011751.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011752.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011753.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011754.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011755.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011756.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011757.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011759.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011760.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011761.html">[Mageia-dev] where are the live-isos? (was: Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze)
+</A><A NAME="11761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011762.html">[Mageia-dev] USB Flash drive broken since latest Cauldron updates
+</A><A NAME="11762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011763.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011764.html">[Mageia-dev] where are the live-isos? (was: Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze)
+</A><A NAME="11764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011765.html">[Mageia-dev] USB Flash drive broken since latest Cauldron	updates
+</A><A NAME="11765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011766.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call for	participation
+</A><A NAME="11766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011767.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call	for participation
+</A><A NAME="11767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011768.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call for participation
+</A><A NAME="11768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011769.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call	for participation
+</A><A NAME="11769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011770.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	embryo-1.1.0-0.r67715.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011771.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011772.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call	for participation
+</A><A NAME="11772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011773.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011774.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011775.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011776.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011777.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011778.html">[Mageia-dev] -- mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey	package]
+</A><A NAME="11778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011779.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011780.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011781.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011782.html">[Mageia-dev] problem with obsoleting packages
+</A><A NAME="11782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011783.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011784.html">[Mageia-dev] problem with obsoleting packages
+</A><A NAME="11784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011785.html">[Mageia-dev] -- mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey	package]
+</A><A NAME="11785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011786.html">[Mageia-dev] problem with obsoleting packages
+</A><A NAME="11786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011787.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: [opensuse-factory] anyone care for man-in-the-middle CA trustwave.com registrar disaster?
+</A><A NAME="11787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011788.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011789.html">[Mageia-dev] problem with obsoleting packages
+</A><A NAME="11789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011790.html">[Mageia-dev] [1844] partition_table: align partitions to 1MB	boundaries to avoid
+</A><A NAME="11790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011791.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011792.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011793.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011794.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011795.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011796.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011797.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011798.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call for participation
+</A><A NAME="11798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011799.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011800.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011801.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011802.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011803.html">[Mageia-dev] Change in locales (Kashubian removed from the Polish	package)
+</A><A NAME="11803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011804.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011805.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011806.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011807.html">[Mageia-dev] Change in locales (Kashubian removed from the	Polish package)
+</A><A NAME="11807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011808.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2922] fix isolinux.bin (syslinux 4)
+</A><A NAME="11808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011809.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2922] fix isolinux.bin (syslinux 4)
+</A><A NAME="11809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011810.html">[Mageia-dev] Change in locales (Kashubian removed from the Polish package)
+</A><A NAME="11810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011811.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011812.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011813.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011814.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011815.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011816.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011817.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011818.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011819.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011821.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011820.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011822.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011823.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011824.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011825.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011826.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011827.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011828.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011829.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011830.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011831.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011832.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011833.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011834.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011835.html">[Mageia-dev] First impression on Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mitya
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011836.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011837.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011838.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011839.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011840.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011841.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011842.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011843.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011844.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this	wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011845.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011846.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	edje-1.1.0-0.r67830.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011847.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	edje-1.1.0-0.r67830.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011848.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	embryo-1.1.0-0.r67715.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011849.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011850.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011851.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011852.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011853.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011854.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011855.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xfce4-session-4.8.2-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011856.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011857.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011858.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011859.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package	with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011860.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package	with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011861.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011862.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011864.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011863.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011865.html">[Mageia-dev] Putting meta-information in Mageia patches
+</A><A NAME="11865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011866.html">[Mageia-dev] Putting meta-information in Mageia patches
+</A><A NAME="11866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011867.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011868.html">[Mageia-dev] urw-fonts
+</A><A NAME="11868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011869.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011870.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011871.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mahmut Bulut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011872.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="11872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011873.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011874.html">[Mageia-dev] Myspell/Hunspell Gascon dictionaries - licensing	problem
+</A><A NAME="11874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011875.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011876.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011877.html">[Mageia-dev] Myspell/Hunspell Gascon dictionaries - licensing problem
+</A><A NAME="11877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011878.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011879.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011880.html">[Mageia-dev] Putting meta-information in Mageia patches
+</A><A NAME="11880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011881.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2935] - fix broken translation (patch from Jarom?\195?\173r C?\195?\161p? \195?\173k)
+</A><A NAME="11881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011882.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="11882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011883.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011884.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011885.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011886.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011887.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011888.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="11888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011889.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011890.html">[Mageia-dev] First impression on Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011891.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011892.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011893.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011894.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2935] - fix broken translation (patch from Jarom&#237;r C&#225;p&#237;k)
+</A><A NAME="11894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011895.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011896.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011897.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011898.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011899.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011900.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011901.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011902.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011903.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011904.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011905.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="11905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011906.html">[Mageia-dev] mgasoft
+</A><A NAME="11906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011907.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011908.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package?with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011909.html">[Mageia-dev] mgasoft
+</A><A NAME="11909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011910.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011911.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011912.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011913.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011914.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011915.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011916.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011917.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011918.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011919.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011920.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011921.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011922.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011923.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011924.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports (WAS: Beta 1 isos)
+</A><A NAME="11924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011925.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports (WAS: Beta 1 isos)
+</A><A NAME="11925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011926.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports (WAS: Beta 1 isos)
+</A><A NAME="11926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011927.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="11927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011928.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="11928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011929.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011930.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011931.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011932.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="11932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011933.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011934.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011935.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011936.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011937.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011938.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011939.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011940.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011941.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011942.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011943.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011944.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011945.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011946.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011947.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011948.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011949.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011950.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011951.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011952.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011953.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011954.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011955.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011956.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011957.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011958.html">[Mageia-dev] Handling of tty1 [was Can't switch to virtual consoles]
+</A><A NAME="11958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011959.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011960.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011961.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kyle Fletcher
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011962.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011963.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011964.html">[Mageia-dev] [URGENT] SVN down for ~30minutes
+</A><A NAME="11964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011965.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011966.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011967.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011968.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andres Kaaber
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011969.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011970.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011972.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011971.html">[Mageia-dev] [URGENT] SVN down for ~30minutes
+</A><A NAME="11971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011973.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011974.html">[Mageia-dev] [URGENT] SVN down for ~30minutes
+</A><A NAME="11974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011975.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011976.html">[Mageia-dev] [URGENT] SVN down for ~30minutes
+</A><A NAME="11976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011977.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011979.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>paulo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011980.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011981.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011982.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011983.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011984.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011985.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011986.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011987.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011988.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011990.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Denielou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011989.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011991.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011992.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Denielou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011993.html">[Mageia-dev] Cleaning up GNOME spec files
+</A><A NAME="11993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011994.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011995.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011996.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011997.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="11997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011998.html">[Mageia-dev] Cleaning up GNOME spec files
+</A><A NAME="11998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011999.html">[Mageia-dev] Cleaning up GNOME spec files
+</A><A NAME="11999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012000.html">[Mageia-dev] Cleaning up GNOME spec files
+</A><A NAME="12000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012001.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012002.html">[Mageia-dev] mgarepo log regression? (was:	c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2)
+</A><A NAME="12002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012003.html">[Mageia-dev] mgarepo log regression?
+</A><A NAME="12003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012004.html">[Mageia-dev] mgarepo log regression?
+</A><A NAME="12004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012005.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="12005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012006.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="12006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011978.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Steven Tucker
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012007.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="12007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012008.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012009.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012010.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012011.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="12011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012012.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dracut-015-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012013.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012014.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012015.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012016.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dracut-015-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012017.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012018.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Nonresponsive or absent package maintainers &amp;	policy discussion
+</A><A NAME="12018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012019.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012020.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012021.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012022.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012023.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	rsyslog-5.8.6-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012024.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	rsyslog-5.8.6-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012025.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] GSOC 2012
+</A><A NAME="12025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012026.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012027.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012028.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012029.html">[Mageia-dev] Current kernel leads to crash
+</A><A NAME="12029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012030.html">[Mageia-dev] Current kernel leads to crash
+</A><A NAME="12030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Henrik Christiansen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012031.html">[Mageia-dev] Current kernel leads to crash
+</A><A NAME="12031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012032.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012033.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012034.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012035.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012036.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release dracut-015-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012037.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012038.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012039.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dracut-015-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012040.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012041.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012042.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012043.html">[Mageia-dev] http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/ not accessbile	anymore
+</A><A NAME="12043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012044.html">[Mageia-dev] check.mageia.org down
+</A><A NAME="12044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012045.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012046.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012047.html">[Mageia-dev] http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/ not accessbile	anymore
+</A><A NAME="12047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012048.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012049.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012050.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012051.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012052.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012058.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012053.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012054.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012055.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012056.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012057.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012059.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012060.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012061.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012062.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xulrunner-10.0.2-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012063.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012064.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12064">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012065.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12065">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012066.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12066">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012067.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12067">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012068.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12068">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012069.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2	days
+</A><A NAME="12069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Revillet
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012070.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost	2 days
+</A><A NAME="12070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012071.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012072.html">[Mageia-dev] k(m)ahjongg packages
+</A><A NAME="12072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012073.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xulrunner-10.0.2-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012074.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012075.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012076.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012077.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since	almost	2 days
+</A><A NAME="12077">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012078.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since	almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012079.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2982] Use Isocheck; tests moved
+</A><A NAME="12079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012080.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012081.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12081">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012082.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12082">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012083.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12083">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012084.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012085.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012086.html">[Mageia-dev] noarch packages existing only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012087.html">[Mageia-dev] noarch packages existing only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012088.html">[Mageia-dev] noarch packages existing only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012089.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] noarch packages existing only on	x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012090.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] noarch packages existing only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012091.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] noarch packages existing only on	x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12091">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012092.html">[Mageia-dev] chroot for mageia 1; db42_load?
+</A><A NAME="12092">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012093.html">[Mageia-dev] chroot for mageia 1; db42_load?
+</A><A NAME="12093">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012094.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12094">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012095.html">[Mageia-dev] Default docks for WindowMaker
+</A><A NAME="12095">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012096.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012097.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libproxy-0.4.7-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12097">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012098.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12098">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012099.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since	almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12099">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012100.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012102.html">[Mageia-dev] Unetbooting and extlinx - strange issue
+</A><A NAME="12102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012101.html">[Mageia-dev] Unetbooting and extlinx - strange issue
+</A><A NAME="12101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012103.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dietlibc-0.33-4.20110311.3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012104.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	wmdrawer-0.10.5-12.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012105.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging help for GDM+GNOME Mageia background (long)
+</A><A NAME="12105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012106.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost	2 days
+</A><A NAME="12106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012107.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libpng-1.5.9-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012108.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012109.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	postfix-2.8.8-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012110.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	postfix-2.8.8-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012114.html">[Mageia-dev] libavformat needs libavfilter needs libavformat
+</A><A NAME="12114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012111.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012112.html">[Mageia-dev] p11-kit needs libp11-kit needs p11-kit
+</A><A NAME="12112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012113.html">[Mageia-dev] chroot for mageia 1; db42_load?
+</A><A NAME="12113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012115.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012117.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012116.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012118.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012119.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012120.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	wmdrawer-0.10.5-12.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012121.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012122.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012123.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012124.html">[Mageia-dev] xscreensaver
+</A><A NAME="12124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Z&#233;zinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012125.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	phpmyadmin-3.4.10-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012126.html">[Mageia-dev] xscreensaver
+</A><A NAME="12126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012127.html">[Mageia-dev] desktop-file-utils and jpackage-utils questions
+</A><A NAME="12127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012128.html">[Mageia-dev] desktop-file-utils and jpackage-utils questions
+</A><A NAME="12128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012129.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox craches on libstdc++
+</A><A NAME="12129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012130.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012131.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012132.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012133.html">[Mageia-dev] desktop-file-utils and jpackage-utils questions
+</A><A NAME="12133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012134.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox craches on libstdc++
+</A><A NAME="12134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012135.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012136.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012137.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012138.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012139.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012140.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012141.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012142.html">[Mageia-dev] libavformat needs libavfilter needs libavformat
+</A><A NAME="12142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012143.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost	2 days
+</A><A NAME="12143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012144.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012145.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012146.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since	almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012147.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012149.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012148.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012151.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012150.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012152.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012153.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12153">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012154.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12154">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012155.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12155">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012156.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12156">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012157.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12157">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012158.html">[Mageia-dev] package default settings question
+</A><A NAME="12158">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lev Givon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012159.html">[Mageia-dev] Wifi not working anymore
+</A><A NAME="12159">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012160.html">[Mageia-dev] Wifi not working anymore
+</A><A NAME="12160">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012161.html">[Mageia-dev] Wifi not working anymore
+</A><A NAME="12161">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012162.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12162">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012163.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12163">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012164.html">[Mageia-dev] Wifi not working anymore
+</A><A NAME="12164">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012165.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12165">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012166.html">[Mageia-dev] hicolor-icon-theme question
+</A><A NAME="12166">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012167.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012168.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012169.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012170.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012171.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012172.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012174.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012173.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012175.html">[Mageia-dev] hicolor-icon-theme question
+</A><A NAME="12175">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012176.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012177.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12177">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012178.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with  rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012179.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012180.html">[Mageia-dev] hicolor-icon-theme question
+</A><A NAME="12180">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012181.html">[Mageia-dev] python-virtualenv: package default settings	question
+</A><A NAME="12181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012182.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012183.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012184.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012185.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12185">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012186.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12186">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012187.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12187">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012188.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012189.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012190.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012191.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012192.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012193.html">[Mageia-dev] python-virtualenv: package default settings	question
+</A><A NAME="12193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lev Givon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012194.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012195.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012196.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012197.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012198.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012199.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012200.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with  rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12200">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012201.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm default theme (was: icewm package re-organize?)
+</A><A NAME="12201">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012202.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm default theme (was: icewm package	re-organize?)
+</A><A NAME="12202">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012203.html">[Mageia-dev] python-virtualenv: package default settings	question
+</A><A NAME="12203">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012204.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm default theme (was: icewm package	re-organize?)
+</A><A NAME="12204">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012205.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm default theme (was: icewm package	re-organize?)
+</A><A NAME="12205">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012206.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12206">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012207.html">[Mageia-dev] Unetbooting and extlinx - strange issue
+</A><A NAME="12207">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012208.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012209.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012210.html">[Mageia-dev] Return of the jedi
+</A><A NAME="12210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012211.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012212.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012213.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012214.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012217.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging help for GDM+GNOME Mageia background (long)
+</A><A NAME="12217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012215.html">[Mageia-dev] Cinnamon
+</A><A NAME="12215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012216.html">[Mageia-dev] Cinnamon
+</A><A NAME="12216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012218.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012219.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012220.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012221.html">[Mageia-dev] python-virtualenv: package default settings	question
+</A><A NAME="12221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012222.html">[Mageia-dev] Faster GNOME package submission
+</A><A NAME="12222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012223.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3012] Add ability to increase the version number of a given package
+</A><A NAME="12223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012224.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3012] Add ability to increase the version number of a given package
+</A><A NAME="12224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012225.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with  rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012226.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012227.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012228.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012229.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012230.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012231.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012232.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012233.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012235.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012234.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	cogl-1.9.6-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012236.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3012] Add ability to increase the version number of a given package
+</A><A NAME="12236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012237.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012238.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libproxy-0.4.7-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012239.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012240.html">[Mageia-dev] Little proposal of rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012241.html">[Mageia-dev] Little proposal of rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012242.html">[Mageia-dev] Little proposal of rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012243.html">[Mageia-dev] Little proposal of rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012244.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012245.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012246.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libproxy-0.4.7-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012247.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012248.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libproxy-0.4.7-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012249.html">[Mageia-dev] Something to replace Mandriva Seed - Rufus
+</A><A NAME="12249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012250.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012251.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012252.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012253.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012254.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012255.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012256.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012257.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012258.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012259.html">[Mageia-dev] Order of nics when multiple network interfaces	detected.
+</A><A NAME="12259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012260.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012261.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012262.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012263.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012264.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libchamplain-0.12.1-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012265.html">[Mageia-dev] ConsoleKit vs systemd session tracking for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="12265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012266.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012267.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012268.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012269.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012271.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012270.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012272.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012273.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012274.html">[Mageia-dev] Order of nics when multiple network interfaces	detected.
+</A><A NAME="12274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012275.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012276.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012277.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012278.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012279.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012280.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012281.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012282.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012283.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012284.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012285.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012286.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012287.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012288.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012289.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012290.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012291.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012292.html">[Mageia-dev] Article in Linux Today News
+</A><A NAME="12292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012293.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012294.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012295.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012296.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012297.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012298.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012299.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012300.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012301.html">[Mageia-dev] Update blocked on i586
+</A><A NAME="12301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012302.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012303.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012304.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012305.html">[Mageia-dev] Update blocked on i586
+</A><A NAME="12305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012306.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012307.html">[Mageia-dev] Volume mixer for Window Maker
+</A><A NAME="12307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012308.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012309.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012310.html">[Mageia-dev] Volume mixer for Window Maker
+</A><A NAME="12310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012311.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012312.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012313.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012314.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012315.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012316.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012317.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012318.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012319.html">[Mageia-dev] Volume mixer for Window Maker
+</A><A NAME="12319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012320.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012321.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012322.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012323.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current	status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012324.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012325.html">[Mageia-dev] Binrepo issue
+</A><A NAME="12325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012326.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012327.html">[Mageia-dev] Binrepo issue
+</A><A NAME="12327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012328.html">[Mageia-dev] Binrepo issue
+</A><A NAME="12328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012329.html">[Mageia-dev] xinit upgraded to 1.3.2
+</A><A NAME="12329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012330.html">[Mageia-dev] Volume mixer for Window Maker
+</A><A NAME="12330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012331.html">[Mageia-dev] Update blocked on i586
+</A><A NAME="12331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012332.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3047] - fix wrong dates in the	NEWS file
+</A><A NAME="12332">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012333.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12333">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012334.html">[Mageia-dev] check on mga1 may needs some changes
+</A><A NAME="12334">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012335.html">[Mageia-dev] check on mga1 may needs some changes
+</A><A NAME="12335">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012336.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3047] - fix wrong dates in the	NEWS file
+</A><A NAME="12336">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012337.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12337">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012338.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12338">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012339.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12339">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012340.html">[Mageia-dev] Order of nics when multiple network interfaces detected.
+</A><A NAME="12340">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012341.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12341">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012342.html">[Mageia-dev] check on mga1 may needs some changes
+</A><A NAME="12342">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012343.html">[Mageia-dev] Icewm package re-organized in Caldron
+</A><A NAME="12343">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012344.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system broken
+</A><A NAME="12344">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012345.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="12345">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012346.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks moved to usr ?
+</A><A NAME="12346">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012347.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12347">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012348.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12348">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012349.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks moved to usr ?
+</A><A NAME="12349">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012350.html">[Mageia-dev] Something to replace Mandriva Seed - Rufus
+</A><A NAME="12350">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012351.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12351">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012352.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="12352">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012353.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12353">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012354.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system broken
+</A><A NAME="12354">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012355.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system broken
+</A><A NAME="12355">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012358.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12358">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012356.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuilds needed ?
+</A><A NAME="12356">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012357.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuilds needed ?
+</A><A NAME="12357">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012359.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12359">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012360.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12360">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012362.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12362">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012361.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12361">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012363.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12363">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012364.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12364">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012365.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing obsolete packages
+</A><A NAME="12365">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012366.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="12366">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012367.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks moved to usr ?
+</A><A NAME="12367">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012368.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12368">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012377.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012369.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12369">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012370.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12370">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012371.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12371">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012372.html">[Mageia-dev] ConsoleKit vs systemd session tracking for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="12372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012373.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012374.html">[Mageia-dev] Order of nics when multiple network interfaces	detected.
+</A><A NAME="12374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012375.html">[Mageia-dev] ConsoleKit vs systemd session tracking for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="12375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012376.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="12376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012378.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="12378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012379.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="12379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012380.html">[Mageia-dev] BS down
+</A><A NAME="12380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012381.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dovecot-1.2.17-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012382.html">[Mageia-dev] BS down
+</A><A NAME="12382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012384.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME-shell/mutter 3.3.90 memory usage
+</A><A NAME="12384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012383.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dovecot-1.2.17-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012385.html">[Mageia-dev] Two versions of udisks
+</A><A NAME="12385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012386.html">[Mageia-dev] Obsoleting mail-notification?
+</A><A NAME="12386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012387.html">[Mageia-dev] please drop python-xpcom
+</A><A NAME="12387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Z&#233;zinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012388.html">[Mageia-dev] please drop python-xpcom
+</A><A NAME="12388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012389.html">[Mageia-dev] please drop python-xpcom
+</A><A NAME="12389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012391.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012396.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012390.html">[Mageia-dev] Obsoleting mail-notification?
+</A><A NAME="12390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012392.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="12392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012393.html">[Mageia-dev] Two versions of udisks
+</A><A NAME="12393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012394.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME-shell/mutter 3.3.90 memory usage
+</A><A NAME="12394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012395.html">[Mageia-dev] xinit upgraded to 1.3.2
+</A><A NAME="12395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012397.html">[Mageia-dev] changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release mplayer-1.0-1.rc4.0.r34578.2.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="12397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012398.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012404.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012399.html">[Mageia-dev] xinit upgraded to 1.3.2
+</A><A NAME="12399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012400.html">[Mageia-dev] Obsoleting mail-notification?
+</A><A NAME="12400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012401.html">[Mageia-dev] changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	mplayer-1.0-1.rc4.0.r34578.2.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="12401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012402.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Replace module-init-tools by kmod?
+</A><A NAME="12402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012403.html">[Mageia-dev] changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	mplayer-1.0-1.rc4.0.r34578.2.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="12403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012405.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dovecot-1.2.17-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012406.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012407.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012408.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	dovecot-1.2.17-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012409.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 sound scheme?
+</A><A NAME="12409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012410.html">[Mageia-dev] binrepo offline?
+</A><A NAME="12410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012411.html">[Mageia-dev] binrepo offline?
+</A><A NAME="12411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012412.html">[Mageia-dev] binrepo offline?
+</A><A NAME="12412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012413.html">[Mageia-dev] mgasoft
+</A><A NAME="12413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012414.html">[Mageia-dev] shadow-utils
+</A><A NAME="12414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012415.html">[Mageia-dev] shadow-utils
+</A><A NAME="12415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012416.html">[Mageia-dev] shadow-utils
+</A><A NAME="12416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012417.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3118] - mark a new release and	copy it into	tags/1:2-4
+</A><A NAME="12417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012418.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3118] - mark a new release and copy it into	tags/1:2-4
+</A><A NAME="12418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012419.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3118] - mark a new release and copy it into tags/1:2-4
+</A><A NAME="12419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012420.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3118] - mark a new release and copy it into tags/1:2-4
+</A><A NAME="12420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012421.html">[Mageia-dev] Faster GNOME package submission
+</A><A NAME="12421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012422.html">[Mageia-dev] shadow-utils
+</A><A NAME="12422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012423.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME-shell/mutter 3.3.90 memory usage
+</A><A NAME="12423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012424.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME-shell/mutter 3.3.90 memory usage
+</A><A NAME="12424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012425.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	meta-task-2-30.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012426.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release meta-task-2-30.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012427.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012428.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012429.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	meta-task-2-30.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012430.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libchamplain-0.12.1-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012431.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012432.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012433.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012434.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012435.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012436.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012437.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012438.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012439.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012440.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012441.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012442.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	aria2-1.14.2-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012443.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="12443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012444.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012445.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release meta-task-2-30.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012446.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012447.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012448.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012449.html">[Mageia-dev] please drop python-xpcom
+</A><A NAME="12449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012450.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012451.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+    </ul>
+    <p>
+      <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> 
+       <i>Wed Feb 29 23:41:53 CET 2012</i><br>
+    <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 16:46:32 CEST 2012</i>
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+		
+	     <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+      <h1>February 2012 Archives by subject</h1>
+      <ul>
+         <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+	        <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+		
+		<a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+		<a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+	     <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+                    </a></b></li>
+      </ul>
+      <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Feb  1 03:23:20 CET 2012</i><br>
+         <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Feb 29 23:41:53 CET 2012</i><br>
+         <b>Messages:</b> 771<p>
+     <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011778.html">[Mageia-dev] -- mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey	package]
+</A><A NAME="11778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011785.html">[Mageia-dev] -- mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey	package]
+</A><A NAME="11785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011758.html">[Mageia-dev] -- mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011790.html">[Mageia-dev] [1844] partition_table: align partitions to 1MB	boundaries to avoid
+</A><A NAME="11790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012408.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	dovecot-1.2.17-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012436.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012437.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012439.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011904.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011910.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011913.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012442.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	aria2-1.14.2-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011686.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	bugzilla-4.0.4-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011957.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011969.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012074.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012226.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012228.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012244.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012234.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	cogl-1.9.6-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011727.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	compiz-0.9.7-0.bzr2979.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012103.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dietlibc-0.33-4.20110311.3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012381.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dovecot-1.2.17-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012383.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dovecot-1.2.17-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012405.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dovecot-1.2.17-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012012.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dracut-015-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012016.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dracut-015-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012039.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dracut-015-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011846.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	edje-1.1.0-0.r67830.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011847.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	edje-1.1.0-0.r67830.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011770.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	embryo-1.1.0-0.r67715.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011848.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	embryo-1.1.0-0.r67715.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012427.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012428.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012432.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012434.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012435.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012438.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012440.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012441.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012107.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libpng-1.5.9-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012097.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libproxy-0.4.7-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12097">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012238.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libproxy-0.4.7-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012246.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libproxy-0.4.7-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012248.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libproxy-0.4.7-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011788.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011800.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011802.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012425.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	meta-task-2-30.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012429.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	meta-task-2-30.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011739.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	monodevelop-2.8.6.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012109.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	postfix-2.8.8-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012110.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	postfix-2.8.8-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011897.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011898.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011900.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011902.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011912.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012104.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	wmdrawer-0.10.5-12.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012120.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	wmdrawer-0.10.5-12.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012444.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012446.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012450.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012451.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011855.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xfce4-session-4.8.2-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012062.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xulrunner-10.0.2-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012073.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xulrunner-10.0.2-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011950.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012227.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012231.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012232.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012235.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012036.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release dracut-015-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012431.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012433.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012448.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012264.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libchamplain-0.12.1-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012430.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libchamplain-0.12.1-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011794.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011801.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011806.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011815.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012426.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release meta-task-2-30.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012445.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release meta-task-2-30.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011899.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011901.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011911.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012447.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011824.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011962.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011970.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011986.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011989.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011991.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012125.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	phpmyadmin-3.4.10-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012023.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	rsyslog-5.8.6-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012024.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	rsyslog-5.8.6-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011683.html">[Mageia-dev] [FOSDEM] saturday evening dinner
+</A><A NAME="11683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="016383.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] General assembly convocation
+</A><A NAME="16383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012025.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] GSOC 2012
+</A><A NAME="12025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011722.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] BS tainted section issue?
+</A><A NAME="11722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011723.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] BS tainted section issue?
+</A><A NAME="11723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011724.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] BS tainted section issue?
+</A><A NAME="11724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012089.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] noarch packages existing only on	x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012091.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] noarch packages existing only on	x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12091">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012090.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] noarch packages existing only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011700.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [203801] imported package	rubygem-ruby-debug
+</A><A NAME="11700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012347.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12347">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012353.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12353">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012369.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12369">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012370.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12370">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012373.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012018.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Nonresponsive or absent package maintainers &amp;	policy discussion
+</A><A NAME="12018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011767.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call	for participation
+</A><A NAME="11767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011769.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call	for participation
+</A><A NAME="11769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011772.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call	for participation
+</A><A NAME="11772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011766.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call for	participation
+</A><A NAME="11766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011768.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call for participation
+</A><A NAME="11768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011798.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call for participation
+</A><A NAME="11798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011682.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2851] Add hime; remove chinput, kinput2, oxim, xcin.
+</A><A NAME="11682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011808.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2922] fix isolinux.bin (syslinux 4)
+</A><A NAME="11808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011809.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2922] fix isolinux.bin (syslinux 4)
+</A><A NAME="11809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011881.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2935] - fix broken translation (patch from Jarom?\195?\173r C?\195?\161p? \195?\173k)
+</A><A NAME="11881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011894.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2935] - fix broken translation (patch from Jarom&#237;r C&#225;p&#237;k)
+</A><A NAME="11894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012079.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2982] Use Isocheck; tests moved
+</A><A NAME="12079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012223.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3012] Add ability to increase the version number of a given package
+</A><A NAME="12223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012224.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3012] Add ability to increase the version number of a given package
+</A><A NAME="12224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012236.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3012] Add ability to increase the version number of a given package
+</A><A NAME="12236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012332.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3047] - fix wrong dates in the	NEWS file
+</A><A NAME="12332">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012336.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3047] - fix wrong dates in the	NEWS file
+</A><A NAME="12336">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012417.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3118] - mark a new release and	copy it into	tags/1:2-4
+</A><A NAME="12417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012418.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3118] - mark a new release and copy it into	tags/1:2-4
+</A><A NAME="12418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012419.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3118] - mark a new release and copy it into tags/1:2-4
+</A><A NAME="12419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012420.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3118] - mark a new release and copy it into tags/1:2-4
+</A><A NAME="12420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011964.html">[Mageia-dev] [URGENT] SVN down for ~30minutes
+</A><A NAME="11964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011971.html">[Mageia-dev] [URGENT] SVN down for ~30minutes
+</A><A NAME="11971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011974.html">[Mageia-dev] [URGENT] SVN down for ~30minutes
+</A><A NAME="11974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011976.html">[Mageia-dev] [URGENT] SVN down for ~30minutes
+</A><A NAME="11976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012028.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012035.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012037.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012038.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012045.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012048.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012049.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012050.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012051.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012052.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012058.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012053.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012054.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012055.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012056.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012057.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012059.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012060.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012061.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012063.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012064.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12064">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012065.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12065">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012066.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12066">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012067.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12067">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012075.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012081.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12081">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012083.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12083">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012084.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012085.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012094.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12094">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012096.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012116.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012119.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011702.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011779.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011783.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011792.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011793.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011795.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011796.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011797.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011804.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011805.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012292.html">[Mageia-dev] Article in Linux Today News
+</A><A NAME="12292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011813.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011814.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011816.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011818.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011821.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011820.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011822.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011823.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011825.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011827.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011828.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011830.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011833.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011924.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports (WAS: Beta 1 isos)
+</A><A NAME="11924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011925.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports (WAS: Beta 1 isos)
+</A><A NAME="11925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011926.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports (WAS: Beta 1 isos)
+</A><A NAME="11926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011914.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011915.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011916.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011917.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011918.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011919.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011920.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011921.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011922.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011923.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011937.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011939.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011944.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012325.html">[Mageia-dev] Binrepo issue
+</A><A NAME="12325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012327.html">[Mageia-dev] Binrepo issue
+</A><A NAME="12327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012328.html">[Mageia-dev] Binrepo issue
+</A><A NAME="12328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012410.html">[Mageia-dev] binrepo offline?
+</A><A NAME="12410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012411.html">[Mageia-dev] binrepo offline?
+</A><A NAME="12411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012412.html">[Mageia-dev] binrepo offline?
+</A><A NAME="12412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012380.html">[Mageia-dev] BS down
+</A><A NAME="12380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012382.html">[Mageia-dev] BS down
+</A><A NAME="12382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012344.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system broken
+</A><A NAME="12344">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012354.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system broken
+</A><A NAME="12354">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012355.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system broken
+</A><A NAME="12355">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011941.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011942.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011946.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011947.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011948.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011949.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011951.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011952.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011953.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011954.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011955.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011956.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012005.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="12005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012006.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="12006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012007.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="12007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011771.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011773.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011774.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011775.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011776.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011811.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011807.html">[Mageia-dev] Change in locales (Kashubian removed from the	Polish package)
+</A><A NAME="11807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011803.html">[Mageia-dev] Change in locales (Kashubian removed from the Polish	package)
+</A><A NAME="11803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011810.html">[Mageia-dev] Change in locales (Kashubian removed from the Polish package)
+</A><A NAME="11810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012401.html">[Mageia-dev] changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	mplayer-1.0-1.rc4.0.r34578.2.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="12401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012403.html">[Mageia-dev] changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	mplayer-1.0-1.rc4.0.r34578.2.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="12403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012397.html">[Mageia-dev] changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release mplayer-1.0-1.rc4.0.r34578.2.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="12397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012334.html">[Mageia-dev] check on mga1 may needs some changes
+</A><A NAME="12334">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012335.html">[Mageia-dev] check on mga1 may needs some changes
+</A><A NAME="12335">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012342.html">[Mageia-dev] check on mga1 may needs some changes
+</A><A NAME="12342">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012044.html">[Mageia-dev] check.mageia.org down
+</A><A NAME="12044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012092.html">[Mageia-dev] chroot for mageia 1; db42_load?
+</A><A NAME="12092">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012093.html">[Mageia-dev] chroot for mageia 1; db42_load?
+</A><A NAME="12093">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012113.html">[Mageia-dev] chroot for mageia 1; db42_load?
+</A><A NAME="12113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012215.html">[Mageia-dev] Cinnamon
+</A><A NAME="12215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012216.html">[Mageia-dev] Cinnamon
+</A><A NAME="12216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011993.html">[Mageia-dev] Cleaning up GNOME spec files
+</A><A NAME="11993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011998.html">[Mageia-dev] Cleaning up GNOME spec files
+</A><A NAME="11998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011999.html">[Mageia-dev] Cleaning up GNOME spec files
+</A><A NAME="11999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012000.html">[Mageia-dev] Cleaning up GNOME spec files
+</A><A NAME="12000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012265.html">[Mageia-dev] ConsoleKit vs systemd session tracking for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="12265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012372.html">[Mageia-dev] ConsoleKit vs systemd session tracking for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="12372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012375.html">[Mageia-dev] ConsoleKit vs systemd session tracking for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="12375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012323.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current	status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011757.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011929.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011930.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011931.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011933.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011963.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012009.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012208.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012209.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012211.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012212.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012213.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012214.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012029.html">[Mageia-dev] Current kernel leads to crash
+</A><A NAME="12029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012030.html">[Mageia-dev] Current kernel leads to crash
+</A><A NAME="12030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Henrik Christiansen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012031.html">[Mageia-dev] Current kernel leads to crash
+</A><A NAME="12031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012095.html">[Mageia-dev] Default docks for WindowMaker
+</A><A NAME="12095">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012322.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012324.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012326.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012333.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12333">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012404.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012406.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012407.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012127.html">[Mageia-dev] desktop-file-utils and jpackage-utils questions
+</A><A NAME="12127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012128.html">[Mageia-dev] desktop-file-utils and jpackage-utils questions
+</A><A NAME="12128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012133.html">[Mageia-dev] desktop-file-utils and jpackage-utils questions
+</A><A NAME="12133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011861.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011863.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011876.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011878.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011879.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011883.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011884.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011885.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011886.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011887.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011889.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011903.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011859.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package	with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011860.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package	with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011853.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011854.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011862.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011873.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011856.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011864.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011908.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package?with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011907.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011705.html">[Mageia-dev] exfat support in Mga2
+</A><A NAME="11705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011706.html">[Mageia-dev] exfat support in Mga2
+</A><A NAME="11706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011708.html">[Mageia-dev] exfat support in Mga2
+</A><A NAME="11708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011710.html">[Mageia-dev] exfat support in Mga2
+</A><A NAME="11710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012222.html">[Mageia-dev] Faster GNOME package submission
+</A><A NAME="12222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012421.html">[Mageia-dev] Faster GNOME package submission
+</A><A NAME="12421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012129.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox craches on libstdc++
+</A><A NAME="12129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012134.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox craches on libstdc++
+</A><A NAME="12134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011844.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this	wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011752.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011834.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011845.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011850.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011857.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011729.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011732.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011733.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011734.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011735.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011736.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011737.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011781.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011819.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011826.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011831.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011832.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011843.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011835.html">[Mageia-dev] First impression on Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mitya
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011890.html">[Mageia-dev] First impression on Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011787.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: [opensuse-factory] anyone care for man-in-the-middle CA trustwave.com registrar disaster?
+</A><A NAME="11787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011849.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011852.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011869.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011871.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mahmut Bulut
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011875.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011896.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012384.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME-shell/mutter 3.3.90 memory usage
+</A><A NAME="12384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012394.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME-shell/mutter 3.3.90 memory usage
+</A><A NAME="12394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012423.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME-shell/mutter 3.3.90 memory usage
+</A><A NAME="12423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012424.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME-shell/mutter 3.3.90 memory usage
+</A><A NAME="12424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011711.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011712.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011713.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011714.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011715.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011716.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011717.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011718.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011719.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011720.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011721.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011725.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011730.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011741.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011742.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011743.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011744.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011745.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011746.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011747.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011756.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011763.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011777.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011791.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011799.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011812.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011958.html">[Mageia-dev] Handling of tty1 [was Can't switch to virtual consoles]
+</A><A NAME="11958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012166.html">[Mageia-dev] hicolor-icon-theme question
+</A><A NAME="12166">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012175.html">[Mageia-dev] hicolor-icon-theme question
+</A><A NAME="12175">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012180.html">[Mageia-dev] hicolor-icon-theme question
+</A><A NAME="12180">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012229.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012230.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012239.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012245.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012262.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012043.html">[Mageia-dev] http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/ not accessbile	anymore
+</A><A NAME="12043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012047.html">[Mageia-dev] http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/ not accessbile	anymore
+</A><A NAME="12047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012202.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm default theme (was: icewm package	re-organize?)
+</A><A NAME="12202">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012204.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm default theme (was: icewm package	re-organize?)
+</A><A NAME="12204">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012205.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm default theme (was: icewm package	re-organize?)
+</A><A NAME="12205">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012201.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm default theme (was: icewm package re-organize?)
+</A><A NAME="12201">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012167.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012168.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012169.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012170.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012177.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12177">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012182.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012343.html">[Mageia-dev] Icewm package re-organized in Caldron
+</A><A NAME="12343">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011961.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kyle Fletcher
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011965.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011967.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011988.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011990.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Denielou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011992.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Denielou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011978.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Steven Tucker
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012011.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="12011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011997.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="11997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012001.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012013.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012014.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012080.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012082.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12082">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011701.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011703.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011707.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011709.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011935.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012072.html">[Mageia-dev] k(m)ahjongg packages
+</A><A NAME="12072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011694.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE 4.8 updates and panel issues
+</A><A NAME="11694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011695.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE 4.8 updates and panel issues
+</A><A NAME="11695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012114.html">[Mageia-dev] libavformat needs libavfilter needs libavformat
+</A><A NAME="12114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012142.html">[Mageia-dev] libavformat needs libavfilter needs libavformat
+</A><A NAME="12142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012240.html">[Mageia-dev] Little proposal of rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012241.html">[Mageia-dev] Little proposal of rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012242.html">[Mageia-dev] Little proposal of rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012243.html">[Mageia-dev] Little proposal of rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011731.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Talus Portugal
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011753.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011754.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011755.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011759.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011760.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012337.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12337">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012351.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12351">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012359.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12359">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012360.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12360">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012362.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12362">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012371.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12371">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012391.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012199.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012218.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012219.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012233.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012237.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012247.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012295.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012297.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012309.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012338.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12338">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012339.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12339">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012409.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 sound scheme?
+</A><A NAME="12409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011817.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011829.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011836.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011837.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011838.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011839.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011840.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011841.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011842.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011851.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011858.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011867.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011692.html">[Mageia-dev] Media mounting broken
+</A><A NAME="11692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011934.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011938.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011975.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011981.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011985.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011987.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012003.html">[Mageia-dev] mgarepo log regression?
+</A><A NAME="12003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012004.html">[Mageia-dev] mgarepo log regression?
+</A><A NAME="12004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012002.html">[Mageia-dev] mgarepo log regression? (was:	c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2)
+</A><A NAME="12002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011740.html">[Mageia-dev] mgasoft
+</A><A NAME="11740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011906.html">[Mageia-dev] mgasoft
+</A><A NAME="11906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011909.html">[Mageia-dev] mgasoft
+</A><A NAME="11909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012413.html">[Mageia-dev] mgasoft
+</A><A NAME="12413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012017.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012019.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012020.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012021.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012022.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012033.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011874.html">[Mageia-dev] Myspell/Hunspell Gascon dictionaries - licensing	problem
+</A><A NAME="11874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011877.html">[Mageia-dev] Myspell/Hunspell Gascon dictionaries - licensing problem
+</A><A NAME="11877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012273.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012304.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012306.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012308.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012313.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012314.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012341.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12341">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012368.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12368">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012398.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011936.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011959.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011960.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011966.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011968.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andres Kaaber
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011972.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011973.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011977.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011979.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>paulo
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011980.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011984.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011994.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011995.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011996.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012008.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012010.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012015.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012026.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012027.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012032.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012034.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012098.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12098">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012163.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12163">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012165.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12165">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012179.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012186.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12186">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012187.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12187">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012188.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012189.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012191.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012194.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011696.html">[Mageia-dev] No meeting tonight
+</A><A NAME="11696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012086.html">[Mageia-dev] noarch packages existing only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012087.html">[Mageia-dev] noarch packages existing only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012088.html">[Mageia-dev] noarch packages existing only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012386.html">[Mageia-dev] Obsoleting mail-notification?
+</A><A NAME="12386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012390.html">[Mageia-dev] Obsoleting mail-notification?
+</A><A NAME="12390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012400.html">[Mageia-dev] Obsoleting mail-notification?
+</A><A NAME="12400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012259.html">[Mageia-dev] Order of nics when multiple network interfaces	detected.
+</A><A NAME="12259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012274.html">[Mageia-dev] Order of nics when multiple network interfaces	detected.
+</A><A NAME="12274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012374.html">[Mageia-dev] Order of nics when multiple network interfaces	detected.
+</A><A NAME="12374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012340.html">[Mageia-dev] Order of nics when multiple network interfaces detected.
+</A><A NAME="12340">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011726.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="11726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011738.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="11738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011905.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="11905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012345.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="12345">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012352.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="12352">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012366.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="12366">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011693.html">[Mageia-dev] oxygen-gtk tabs freezed?
+</A><A NAME="11693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012112.html">[Mageia-dev] p11-kit needs libp11-kit needs p11-kit
+</A><A NAME="12112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012158.html">[Mageia-dev] package default settings question
+</A><A NAME="12158">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lev Givon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011927.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="11927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011928.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="11928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011932.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="11932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012105.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging help for GDM+GNOME Mageia background (long)
+</A><A NAME="12105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012217.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging help for GDM+GNOME Mageia background (long)
+</A><A NAME="12217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012387.html">[Mageia-dev] please drop python-xpcom
+</A><A NAME="12387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Z&#233;zinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012388.html">[Mageia-dev] please drop python-xpcom
+</A><A NAME="12388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012389.html">[Mageia-dev] please drop python-xpcom
+</A><A NAME="12389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012449.html">[Mageia-dev] please drop python-xpcom
+</A><A NAME="12449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012108.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012111.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012130.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012145.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012220.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012178.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with  rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012200.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with  rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12200">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012225.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with  rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011782.html">[Mageia-dev] problem with obsoleting packages
+</A><A NAME="11782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011784.html">[Mageia-dev] problem with obsoleting packages
+</A><A NAME="11784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011786.html">[Mageia-dev] problem with obsoleting packages
+</A><A NAME="11786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011789.html">[Mageia-dev] problem with obsoleting packages
+</A><A NAME="11789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012183.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012184.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012185.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12185">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011870.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011891.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011892.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011893.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011895.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012172.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012174.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012173.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012176.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012190.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012192.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012348.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12348">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012364.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12364">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011865.html">[Mageia-dev] Putting meta-information in Mageia patches
+</A><A NAME="11865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011866.html">[Mageia-dev] Putting meta-information in Mageia patches
+</A><A NAME="11866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011880.html">[Mageia-dev] Putting meta-information in Mageia patches
+</A><A NAME="11880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012181.html">[Mageia-dev] python-virtualenv: package default settings	question
+</A><A NAME="12181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012193.html">[Mageia-dev] python-virtualenv: package default settings	question
+</A><A NAME="12193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lev Givon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012203.html">[Mageia-dev] python-virtualenv: package default settings	question
+</A><A NAME="12203">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012221.html">[Mageia-dev] python-virtualenv: package default settings	question
+</A><A NAME="12221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012077.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since	almost	2 days
+</A><A NAME="12077">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012078.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since	almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012099.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since	almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12099">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012146.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since	almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012070.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost	2 days
+</A><A NAME="12070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012106.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost	2 days
+</A><A NAME="12106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012143.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost	2 days
+</A><A NAME="12143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012069.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2	days
+</A><A NAME="12069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Revillet
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012071.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012076.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012100.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012140.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012376.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="12376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012378.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="12378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012379.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="12379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012392.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="12392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011698.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on x86_64 for	@203879:libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="11698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011699.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on x86_64 for	@203879:libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="11699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012356.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuilds needed ?
+</A><A NAME="12356">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012357.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuilds needed ?
+</A><A NAME="12357">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011872.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="11872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011882.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="11882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011888.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="11888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012115.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012117.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012118.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012121.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012122.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012123.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012131.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012132.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012135.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012137.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012144.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012266.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012267.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012268.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012269.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012271.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012270.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012272.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012275.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012276.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012277.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012278.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012279.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012280.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012281.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012282.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012283.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012284.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012293.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012294.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012296.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012298.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012289.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012290.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012291.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012299.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012300.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012302.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012303.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012311.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012312.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012315.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012316.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012317.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012318.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012320.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012321.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012365.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing obsolete packages
+</A><A NAME="12365">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012358.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12358">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012361.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12361">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012363.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12363">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012377.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012396.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012210.html">[Mageia-dev] Return of the jedi
+</A><A NAME="12210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012402.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Replace module-init-tools by kmod?
+</A><A NAME="12402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012255.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012256.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012257.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012258.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012260.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012263.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012285.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012286.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012287.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012288.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011697.html">[Mageia-dev] scummvm error at build : hint welcome
+</A><A NAME="11697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011748.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011749.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011750.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011751.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011780.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011728.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="11728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012414.html">[Mageia-dev] shadow-utils
+</A><A NAME="12414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012415.html">[Mageia-dev] shadow-utils
+</A><A NAME="12415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012416.html">[Mageia-dev] shadow-utils
+</A><A NAME="12416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012422.html">[Mageia-dev] shadow-utils
+</A><A NAME="12422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011940.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011943.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011945.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011982.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011983.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012249.html">[Mageia-dev] Something to replace Mandriva Seed - Rufus
+</A><A NAME="12249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012350.html">[Mageia-dev] Something to replace Mandriva Seed - Rufus
+</A><A NAME="12350">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012250.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012251.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012252.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012253.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012254.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012261.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011704.html">[Mageia-dev] stardict 3.0.3
+</A><A NAME="11704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011685.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't	show	when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011690.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't	show	when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011684.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011687.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011688.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011689.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011691.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012443.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="12443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012385.html">[Mageia-dev] Two versions of udisks
+</A><A NAME="12385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012393.html">[Mageia-dev] Two versions of udisks
+</A><A NAME="12393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012346.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks moved to usr ?
+</A><A NAME="12346">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012349.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks moved to usr ?
+</A><A NAME="12349">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012367.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks moved to usr ?
+</A><A NAME="12367">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012102.html">[Mageia-dev] Unetbooting and extlinx - strange issue
+</A><A NAME="12102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012101.html">[Mageia-dev] Unetbooting and extlinx - strange issue
+</A><A NAME="12101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012207.html">[Mageia-dev] Unetbooting and extlinx - strange issue
+</A><A NAME="12207">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012301.html">[Mageia-dev] Update blocked on i586
+</A><A NAME="12301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012305.html">[Mageia-dev] Update blocked on i586
+</A><A NAME="12305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012331.html">[Mageia-dev] Update blocked on i586
+</A><A NAME="12331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011868.html">[Mageia-dev] urw-fonts
+</A><A NAME="11868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011765.html">[Mageia-dev] USB Flash drive broken since latest Cauldron	updates
+</A><A NAME="11765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011762.html">[Mageia-dev] USB Flash drive broken since latest Cauldron updates
+</A><A NAME="11762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012307.html">[Mageia-dev] Volume mixer for Window Maker
+</A><A NAME="12307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012310.html">[Mageia-dev] Volume mixer for Window Maker
+</A><A NAME="12310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012319.html">[Mageia-dev] Volume mixer for Window Maker
+</A><A NAME="12319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012330.html">[Mageia-dev] Volume mixer for Window Maker
+</A><A NAME="12330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011761.html">[Mageia-dev] where are the live-isos? (was: Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze)
+</A><A NAME="11761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="011764.html">[Mageia-dev] where are the live-isos? (was: Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze)
+</A><A NAME="11764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012159.html">[Mageia-dev] Wifi not working anymore
+</A><A NAME="12159">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012160.html">[Mageia-dev] Wifi not working anymore
+</A><A NAME="12160">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012161.html">[Mageia-dev] Wifi not working anymore
+</A><A NAME="12161">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012164.html">[Mageia-dev] Wifi not working anymore
+</A><A NAME="12164">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012040.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012041.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012042.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012046.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012068.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12068">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012136.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012138.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012139.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012141.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012147.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012149.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012148.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012151.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012150.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012152.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012153.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12153">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012154.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12154">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012155.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12155">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012156.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12156">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012157.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12157">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012162.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12162">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012171.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012195.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012196.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012197.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012198.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012206.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12206">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012329.html">[Mageia-dev] xinit upgraded to 1.3.2
+</A><A NAME="12329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012395.html">[Mageia-dev] xinit upgraded to 1.3.2
+</A><A NAME="12395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012399.html">[Mageia-dev] xinit upgraded to 1.3.2
+</A><A NAME="12399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012124.html">[Mageia-dev] xscreensaver
+</A><A NAME="12124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Z&#233;zinho
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="012126.html">[Mageia-dev] xscreensaver
+</A><A NAME="12126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+    </ul>
+    <p>
+      <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> 
+       <i>Wed Feb 29 23:41:53 CET 2012</i><br>
+    <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 16:46:32 CEST 2012</i>
+    <p>
+   <ul>
+         <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
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+	     <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+                    </a></b></li>
+     </ul>
+     <p>
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+      <h1>February 2012 Archives by thread</h1>
+      <ul>
+         <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+	        
+		<a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+		<a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+		<a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+	     <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+                    </a></b></li>
+      </ul>
+      <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Feb  1 03:23:20 CET 2012</i><br>
+         <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Feb 29 23:41:53 CET 2012</i><br>
+         <b>Messages:</b> 771<p>
+     <ul>
+
+<!--0 01328063000- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011682.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2851] Add hime; remove chinput, kinput2, oxim, xcin.
+</A><A NAME="11682">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01328081389- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011683.html">[Mageia-dev] [FOSDEM] saturday evening dinner
+</A><A NAME="11683">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01328083061- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011684.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11684">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328083061-01328084589- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011685.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't	show	when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11685">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328083061-01328084589-01328085113- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011687.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11687">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328083061-01328084589-01328085113-01328085290- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011689.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11689">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328083061-01328084589-01328085113-01328085290-01328085444- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011690.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't	show	when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11690">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328083061-01328084589-01328085113-01328085290-01328085444-01328086002- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011691.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11691">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01328083061-01328085222- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011688.html">[Mageia-dev] Strange behaviour - installed package doesn't show when doing a 'rpm -qa' search??
+</A><A NAME="11688">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328084844- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011686.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	bugzilla-4.0.4-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11686">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01328090742- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011692.html">[Mageia-dev] Media mounting broken
+</A><A NAME="11692">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01328100845- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011693.html">[Mageia-dev] oxygen-gtk tabs freezed?
+</A><A NAME="11693">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01328102020- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011694.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE 4.8 updates and panel issues
+</A><A NAME="11694">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328102020-01328103112- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011695.html">[Mageia-dev] KDE 4.8 updates and panel issues
+</A><A NAME="11695">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Balcaen John
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328113688- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011696.html">[Mageia-dev] No meeting tonight
+</A><A NAME="11696">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01328127399- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011697.html">[Mageia-dev] scummvm error at build : hint welcome
+</A><A NAME="11697">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Per &#216;yvind Karlsen
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01328180522- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011698.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on x86_64 for	@203879:libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="11698">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328180522-01328181388- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011699.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on x86_64 for	@203879:libx11-1.4.99.1-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="11699">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328197679- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011700.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [203801] imported package	rubygem-ruby-debug
+</A><A NAME="11700">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01328243821- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011701.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11701">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328243821-01328284815- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011707.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11707">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328245223- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011702.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11702">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328245223-01328673960- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011779.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11779">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328245223-01328673960-01328682919- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011783.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11783">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328245223-01328673960-01328682919-01328723072- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011792.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11792">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328245223-01328673960-01328682919-01328723072-01328724988- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011793.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11793">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328245223-01328673960-01328682919-01328723072-01328724988-01328725135- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011795.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11795">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328245223-01328673960-01328682919-01328723072-01328724988-01328725174- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011796.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11796">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328245223-01328673960-01328682919-01328723072-01328724988-01328725174-01328725305- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011797.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11797">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328245223-01328673960-01328682919-01328723072-01328724988-01328725174-01328725305-01328731516- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011804.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11804">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328245223-01328673960-01328682919-01328723072-01328724988-01328725174-01328725305-01328731516-01328731565- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011805.html">[Mageia-dev] Adding a new license to rpmlint
+</A><A NAME="11805">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328256294- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011703.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11703">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328256294-01328284847- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011709.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11709">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328256294-01328284847-01329234835- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011935.html">[Mageia-dev] Issues with dracut
+</A><A NAME="11935">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328267810- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011704.html">[Mageia-dev] stardict 3.0.3
+</A><A NAME="11704">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01328282597- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011705.html">[Mageia-dev] exfat support in Mga2
+</A><A NAME="11705">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328282597-01328284320- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011706.html">[Mageia-dev] exfat support in Mga2
+</A><A NAME="11706">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328282597-01328284320-01328284966- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011708.html">[Mageia-dev] exfat support in Mga2
+</A><A NAME="11708">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01328282597-01328284320-01328312295- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011710.html">[Mageia-dev] exfat support in Mga2
+</A><A NAME="11710">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328313908- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011711.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11711">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328313908-01328314627- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011712.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11712">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01328313908-01328318849- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011713.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11713">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011714.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11714">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962-01328353450- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011716.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11716">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962-01328353450-01328380047- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011718.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11718">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962-01328353450-01328380047-01328407495- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011720.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11720">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962-01328353450-01328380047-01328407495-01328453889- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011725.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11725">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962-01328353450-01328380047-01328407495-01328453889-01328496627- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011730.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11730">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962-01328353450-01328380047-01328407495-01328453889-01328496627-01328544102- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011741.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11741">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962-01328353450-01328380047-01328407495-01328453889-01328496627-01328544102-01328548121- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011742.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11742">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962-01328353450-01328380047-01328407495-01328453889-01328496627-01328544102-01328548121-01328555711- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011746.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11746">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962-01328353450-01328380047-01328407495-01328453889-01328496627-01328544102-01328548707- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011743.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11743">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962-01328353450-01328380047-01328407495-01328453889-01328496627-01328549654- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011744.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11744">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962-01328353450-01328380047-01328407495-01328453889-01328496627-01328549654-01328554676- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011745.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11745">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962-01328353450-01328380047-01328407495-01328453889-01328496627-01328549654-01328554676-01328575164- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011756.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11756">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962-01328353450-01328380047-01328407495-01328453889-01328496627-01328549654-01328554676-01328575164-01328614763- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011763.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11763">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962-01328353450-01328380047-01328407495-01328453889-01328496627-01328549654-01328554676-01328575164-01328614763-01328672081- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011777.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11777">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962-01328353450-01328380047-01328407495-01328453889-01328496627-01328549654-01328554676-01328575164-01328614763-01328672081-01328722653- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011791.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11791">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maurice Batey
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962-01328353450-01328380047-01328407495-01328453889-01328496627-01328549654-01328554676-01328575164-01328614763-01328672081-01328722653-01328726369- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011799.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11799">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962-01328353450-01328380047-01328407495-01328453889-01328496627-01328549654-01328554676-01328575164-01328614763-01328672081-01328722653-01328726369-01328748356- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011812.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11812">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328344962-01328353450-01328380047-01328407495-01328453889-01328496627-01328549654-01328556547- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011747.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11747">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01328313908-01328318849-01328347965- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011715.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11715">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328347965-01328355335- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011717.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11717">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328347965-01328355335-01328388043- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011719.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11719">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328313908-01328318849-01328347965-01328355335-01328388043-01328409092- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011721.html">[Mageia-dev] Grub and Grub2
+</A><A NAME="11721">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michel Catudal
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328351422- -->
+<LI><A HREF="016383.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] General assembly convocation
+</A><A NAME="16383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01328448747- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011722.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] BS tainted section issue?
+</A><A NAME="11722">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328448747-01328452457- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011723.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] BS tainted section issue?
+</A><A NAME="11723">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328448747-01328452457-01328452965- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011724.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] BS tainted section issue?
+</A><A NAME="11724">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328464798- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011726.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="11726">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328464798-01329136960- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011905.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="11905">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328466751- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011727.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	compiz-0.9.7-0.bzr2979.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11727">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01328476489- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011728.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey package
+</A><A NAME="11728">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01328494069- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011729.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11729">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328494069-01328511828- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011732.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11732">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328494069-01328511828-01328511995- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011733.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11733">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01328494069-01328511828-01328512642- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011734.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11734">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01328494069-01328513262- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011735.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11735">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328494069-01328513262-01328513925- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011736.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11736">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328494069-01328513262-01328513925-01328514621- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011737.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11737">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328494069-01328513262-01328513925-01328514621-01328564302- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011752.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11752">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328494069-01328513262-01328513925-01328514621-01328564302-01328675687- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011781.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11781">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328494069-01328513262-01328513925-01328514621-01328564302-01328675687-01328783626- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011819.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11819">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328494069-01328513262-01328513925-01328514621-01328564302-01328675687-01328783626-01328784701- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011826.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11826">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328494069-01328513262-01328513925-01328514621-01328564302-01328675687-01328783626-01328784701-01328787341- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011831.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11831">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328494069-01328513262-01328513925-01328514621-01328564302-01328675687-01328783626-01328784701-01328787341-01328789040- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011832.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11832">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328494069-01328513262-01328513925-01328514621-01328564302-01328675687-01328783626-01328784701-01328787341-01328789040-01328820974- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011834.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11834">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328494069-01328513262-01328513925-01328514621-01328564302-01328675687-01328783626-01328784701-01328787341-01328789040-01328820974-01328883317- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011843.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11843">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328494069-01328513262-01328513925-01328514621-01328564302-01328675687-01328783626-01328784701-01328787341-01328789040-01328820974-01328883317-01328884477- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011844.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this	wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11844">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328494069-01328513262-01328513925-01328514621-01328564302-01328675687-01328783626-01328784701-01328787341-01328789040-01328820974-01328883317-01328884477-01328889481- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011845.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11845">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328494069-01328513262-01328513925-01328514621-01328564302-01328675687-01328783626-01328784701-01328787341-01328789040-01328820974-01328883317-01328933227- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011850.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11850">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328494069-01328513262-01328513925-01328514621-01328564302-01328675687-01328783626-01328784701-01328787341-01328789040-01328820974-01328883317-01328933227-01328952656- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011857.html">[Mageia-dev] FireFox ESR &lt;= we should totally go for this wrt	stable releases
+</A><A NAME="11857">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328504381- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011731.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11731">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Talus Portugal
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328504381-01328564485- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011753.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11753">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328504381-01328564485-01328567085- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011754.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11754">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328504381-01328564485-01328567085-01328567542- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011755.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11755">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328504381-01328564485-01328567085-01328599080- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011759.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11759">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328504381-01328564485-01328567085-01328603066- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011760.html">[Mageia-dev] Look what i found here
+</A><A NAME="11760">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328523102- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011738.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="11738">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328523102-01330237627- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012345.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="12345">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328523102-01330237627-01330260519- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012352.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="12352">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328523102-01330237627-01330260519-01330283363- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012366.html">[Mageia-dev] OSS sound support
+</A><A NAME="12366">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328535164- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011739.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	monodevelop-2.8.6.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11739">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01328540225- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011740.html">[Mageia-dev] mgasoft
+</A><A NAME="11740">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328540225-01329137184- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011906.html">[Mageia-dev] mgasoft
+</A><A NAME="11906">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01328540225-01329145911- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011909.html">[Mageia-dev] mgasoft
+</A><A NAME="11909">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328540225-01329145911-01330426902- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012413.html">[Mageia-dev] mgasoft
+</A><A NAME="12413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328558645- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011748.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11748">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328558645-01328560829- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011758.html">[Mageia-dev] -- mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11758">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328558645-01328560829-01328673585- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011778.html">[Mageia-dev] -- mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey	package]
+</A><A NAME="11778">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328558645-01328560829-01328673585-01328694888- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011785.html">[Mageia-dev] -- mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey	package]
+</A><A NAME="11785">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01328558645-01328561014- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011749.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11749">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328558645-01328561014-01328562924- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011750.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11750">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328558645-01328561014-01328562924-01328563101- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011751.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11751">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328558645-01328561014-01328562924-01328563101-01328674400- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011780.html">[Mageia-dev] Seamonkey mga1 package missing updates - mozilla branding issues -- was [Seamonkey package]
+</A><A NAME="11780">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328581420- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011757.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11757">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328581420-01329230443- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011929.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11929">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328581420-01329230443-01329230568- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011930.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11930">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01328581420-01329230443-01329230706- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011931.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11931">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328581420-01329230443-01329230706-01329287776- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011963.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11963">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01328581420-01329230443-01329232268- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011933.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="11933">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01328581420-01329230443-01329361225- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012009.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12009">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328581420-01329230443-01329361225-01329899693- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012208.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12208">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328581420-01329230443-01329361225-01329899693-01329900031- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012209.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12209">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328581420-01329230443-01329361225-01329899693-01329900031-01329902905- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012211.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12211">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328581420-01329230443-01329361225-01329899693-01329900031-01329902905-01329905099- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012212.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12212">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328581420-01329230443-01329361225-01329899693-01329900031-01329902905-01329905099-01329909953- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012213.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12213">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328581420-01329230443-01329361225-01329899693-01329900031-01329902905-01329912478- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012214.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12214">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328581420-01329230443-01329361225-01329899693-01329900031-01330181828- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012323.html">[Mageia-dev] Consolidation of the spell checkers - current	status before Beta 1 and general version freeze
+</A><A NAME="12323">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328610547- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011761.html">[Mageia-dev] where are the live-isos? (was: Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze)
+</A><A NAME="11761">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328610547-01328615557- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011764.html">[Mageia-dev] where are the live-isos? (was: Consolidation of the spell checkers - current status before Beta 1 and general version freeze)
+</A><A NAME="11764">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328612497- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011762.html">[Mageia-dev] USB Flash drive broken since latest Cauldron updates
+</A><A NAME="11762">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328612497-01328616251- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011765.html">[Mageia-dev] USB Flash drive broken since latest Cauldron	updates
+</A><A NAME="11765">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328622142- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011766.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call for	participation
+</A><A NAME="11766">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328622142-01328631571- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011767.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call	for participation
+</A><A NAME="11767">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328622142-01328631571-01328632919- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011768.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call for participation
+</A><A NAME="11768">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328622142-01328631571-01328632919-01328633088- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011769.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call	for participation
+</A><A NAME="11769">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01328622142-01328641678- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011772.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call	for participation
+</A><A NAME="11772">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01328622142-01328725668- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011798.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFE] Bundled copies of system libraries - call for participation
+</A><A NAME="11798">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328635262- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011770.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	embryo-1.1.0-0.r67715.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11770">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328635262-01328641360- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011771.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11771">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328635262-01328641360-01328651011- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011773.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11773">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328635262-01328641360-01328651011-01328651931- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011774.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11774">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dan Fandrich
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328635262-01328641360-01328651011-01328651931-01328654622- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011775.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11775">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328635262-01328641360-01328651011-01328651931-01328654832- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011776.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11776">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328635262-01328641360-01328651011-01328651931-01328654832-01328738686- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011811.html">[Mageia-dev] Cannot compile LLVM/Clang under Mageia 1
+</A><A NAME="11811">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Lottmann
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01328635262-01328923227- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011848.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	embryo-1.1.0-0.r67715.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11848">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328679073- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011782.html">[Mageia-dev] problem with obsoleting packages
+</A><A NAME="11782">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328679073-01328688593- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011784.html">[Mageia-dev] problem with obsoleting packages
+</A><A NAME="11784">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328679073-01328688593-01328709323- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011789.html">[Mageia-dev] problem with obsoleting packages
+</A><A NAME="11789">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01328679073-01328695248- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011786.html">[Mageia-dev] problem with obsoleting packages
+</A><A NAME="11786">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328697437- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011787.html">[Mageia-dev] Fwd: [opensuse-factory] anyone care for man-in-the-middle CA trustwave.com registrar disaster?
+</A><A NAME="11787">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01328702711- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011788.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11788">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328702711-01328725118- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011794.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11794">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328702711-01328725118-01328727662- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011800.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11800">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328702711-01328725118-01328727662-01328729612- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011801.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11801">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328702711-01328725118-01328727662-01328729612-01328730125- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011802.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11802">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328702711-01328725118-01328727662-01328729612-01328730125-01328732186- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011806.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11806">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328702711-01328725118-01328727662-01328729612-01328730125-01328732186-01328779595- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011815.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libwacom-0.3-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11815">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328711360- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011790.html">[Mageia-dev] [1844] partition_table: align partitions to 1MB	boundaries to avoid
+</A><A NAME="11790">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01328731310- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011803.html">[Mageia-dev] Change in locales (Kashubian removed from the Polish	package)
+</A><A NAME="11803">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328731310-01328732360- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011807.html">[Mageia-dev] Change in locales (Kashubian removed from the	Polish package)
+</A><A NAME="11807">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328731310-01328732360-01328733674- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011810.html">[Mageia-dev] Change in locales (Kashubian removed from the Polish package)
+</A><A NAME="11810">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328732496- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011808.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2922] fix isolinux.bin (syslinux 4)
+</A><A NAME="11808">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328732496-01328733015- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011809.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2922] fix isolinux.bin (syslinux 4)
+</A><A NAME="11809">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328776350- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011813.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11813">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328776350-01328779162- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011814.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11814">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01328776350-01328780091- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011816.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11816">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328776350-01328780091-01328783304- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011818.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11818">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328776350-01328780091-01328783304-01328783691- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011821.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11821">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328776350-01328780091-01328783304-01328783691-01328783964- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011822.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11822">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328776350-01328780091-01328783304-01328783691-01328783964-01328784434- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011823.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11823">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328776350-01328780091-01328783304-01328783691-01328783964-01328784434-01328785048- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011828.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11828">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328776350-01328780091-01328783304-01328783691-01328783964-01328784434-01328785048-01328786340- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011830.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11830">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328776350-01328780091-01328783304-01328783691-01328783964-01328784434-01328785048-01328786340-01328797801- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011833.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11833">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328776350-01328780091-01328783304-01328783691-01328783964-01328784661- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011825.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11825">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328776350-01328780091-01328783304-01328783691-01328783964-01328784661-01328784979- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011827.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11827">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328776350-01328780091-01328783304-01328783695- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011820.html">[Mageia-dev] Automatically determining all &quot;GNOME&quot; packages
+</A><A NAME="11820">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328780250- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011817.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11817">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328780250-01328785291- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011829.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11829">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328780250-01328785291-01328857425- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011836.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11836">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328780250-01328785291-01328857425-01328863089- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011837.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11837">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328780250-01328785291-01328857425-01328863089-01328875444- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011839.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11839">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>AL13N
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328780250-01328785291-01328857425-01328863089-01328875444-01328875553- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011840.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11840">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328780250-01328785291-01328857425-01328863089-01328875444-01328875553-01328875817- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011841.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11841">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328780250-01328785291-01328857425-01328863089-01328875444-01328875553-01328875817-01328875895- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011842.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11842">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01328780250-01328872706- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011838.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11838">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328780250-01328872706-01328933688- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011851.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11851">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328780250-01328872706-01328933688-01328960538- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011858.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11858">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328780250-01328872706-01328933688-01328960538-01328987847- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011867.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia Beta 1 - 2012/02/21
+</A><A NAME="11867">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328784538- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011824.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-1.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11824">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01328833064- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011835.html">[Mageia-dev] First impression on Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11835">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mitya
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328833064-01329057606- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011890.html">[Mageia-dev] First impression on Cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11890">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328909577- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011846.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	edje-1.1.0-0.r67830.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11846">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328909577-01328922841- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011847.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	edje-1.1.0-0.r67830.1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11847">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Matthew Dawkins
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328929941- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011849.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11849">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328929941-01328944777- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011852.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11852">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328929941-01328944777-01329004854- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011869.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11869">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328929941-01328944777-01329004854-01329005379- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011871.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11871">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Mahmut Bulut
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328929941-01328944777-01329004854-01329039672- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011875.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11875">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01328929941-01328944777-01329078329- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011896.html">[Mageia-dev] ghc-rpm-macros and ghc modules
+</A><A NAME="11896">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328950625- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011853.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11853">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328950625-01328951529- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011854.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11854">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328950625-01328951529-01328968949- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011862.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11862">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01328950625-01328952189- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011856.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11856">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01328950625-01328967719- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011859.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package	with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11859">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328950625-01328967719-01328968617- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011860.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package	with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11860">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01328950625-01328967719-01328968617-01328968842- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011861.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11861">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328950625-01328967719-01328968617-01328968842-01328970172- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011863.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11863">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328950625-01328967719-01328968617-01328968842-01328970172-01329041786- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011876.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11876">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328950625-01328967719-01328968617-01328968842-01328970172-01329041786-01329042639- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011878.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11878">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328950625-01328967719-01328968617-01328968842-01328970172-01329041786-01329042639-01329046939- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011883.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11883">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328950625-01328967719-01328968617-01328968842-01328970172-01329041786-01329043102- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011879.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11879">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328950625-01328967719-01328968617-01328968842-01328970172-01329041786-01329043102-01329047220- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011884.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11884">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328950625-01328967719-01328968617-01328968842-01328970172-01329041786-01329043102-01329047220-01329047745- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011885.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11885">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328950625-01328967719-01328968617-01328968842-01328970172-01329041786-01329043102-01329047220-01329047745-01329048593- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011886.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11886">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328950625-01328967719-01328968617-01328968842-01328970172-01329041786-01329043102-01329047220-01329047745-01329048593-01329051343- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011887.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11887">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328950625-01328967719-01328968617-01328968842-01328970172-01329041786-01329043102-01329047220-01329047745-01329048593-01329056878- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011889.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11889">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328950625-01328967719-01328968617-01328968842-01328970172-01329134416- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011903.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a	package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11903">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328950625-01328967719-01328968617-01328968842-01328970172-01329134416-01329138542- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011907.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package?with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11907">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01328950625-01328967719-01328968617-01328968842-01328970172-01329134416-01329139096- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011908.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package?with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11908">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01328950625-01328970140- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011864.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11864">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328950625-01328970140-01329029680- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011873.html">[Mageia-dev] Error message while trying checkout a package with	mgarepo
+</A><A NAME="11873">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitrios Glentadakis
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328951700- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011855.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xfce4-session-4.8.2-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11855">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01328982106- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011865.html">[Mageia-dev] Putting meta-information in Mageia patches
+</A><A NAME="11865">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01328982106-01328987477- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011866.html">[Mageia-dev] Putting meta-information in Mageia patches
+</A><A NAME="11866">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01328982106-01328987477-01329045332- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011880.html">[Mageia-dev] Putting meta-information in Mageia patches
+</A><A NAME="11880">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01328998830- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011868.html">[Mageia-dev] urw-fonts
+</A><A NAME="11868">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01329005123- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011870.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11870">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329005123-01329063211- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011891.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11891">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329005123-01329063211-01329064111- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011892.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11892">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329005123-01329063211-01329064111-01329065406- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011893.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11893">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329005123-01329063211-01329064111-01329065406-01329067915- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011895.html">[Mageia-dev] procps / procps-ng
+</A><A NAME="11895">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329019688- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011872.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="11872">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329019688-01329046882- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011882.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="11882">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01329019688-01329053339- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011888.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="11888">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329019688-01329053339-01329666932- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012115.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12115">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329019688-01329053339-01329666932-01329668637- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012117.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12117">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329019688-01329053339-01329666932-01329668637-01329668957- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012118.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12118">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329019688-01329053339-01329666932-01329668637-01329668957-01329671314- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012121.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12121">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329019688-01329053339-01329666932-01329668637-01329668957-01329671314-01329672185- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012122.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12122">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329019688-01329053339-01329666932-01329668637-01329668957-01329671314-01329672185-01329684410- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012123.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12123">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329019688-01329053339-01329666932-01329668637-01329668957-01329671314-01329672185-01329684410-01329704914- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012131.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12131">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329019688-01329053339-01329666932-01329668637-01329668957-01329671314-01329672185-01329684410-01329704914-01329708583- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012132.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12132">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329019688-01329053339-01329666932-01329668637-01329668957-01329671314-01329672185-01329684410-01329704914-01329708583-01329733125- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012135.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12135">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329019688-01329053339-01329666932-01329668637-01329668957-01329671314-01329672185-01329684410-01329704914-01329708583-01329733125-01329733951- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012137.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12137">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329019688-01329053339-01329666932-01329668637-01329668957-01329671314-01329672185-01329684410-01329704914-01329708583-01329733125-01329733951-01329745842- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012144.html">[Mageia-dev] removal of .la from libxt breaks xpdf build
+</A><A NAME="12144">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329033581- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011874.html">[Mageia-dev] Myspell/Hunspell Gascon dictionaries - licensing	problem
+</A><A NAME="11874">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329033581-01329042590- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011877.html">[Mageia-dev] Myspell/Hunspell Gascon dictionaries - licensing problem
+</A><A NAME="11877">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329045907- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011881.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2935] - fix broken translation (patch from Jarom?\195?\173r C?\195?\161p? \195?\173k)
+</A><A NAME="11881">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329045907-01329066500- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011894.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2935] - fix broken translation (patch from Jarom&#237;r C&#225;p&#237;k)
+</A><A NAME="11894">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329123933- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011897.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11897">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329123933-01329125731- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011898.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11898">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329123933-01329125731-01329126903- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011899.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11899">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329123933-01329125731-01329126903-01329127461- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011900.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11900">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329123933-01329125731-01329126903-01329127461-01329128911- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011901.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11901">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329123933-01329125731-01329126903-01329127461-01329128911-01329133431- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011902.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11902">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01329123933-01329125731-01329135599- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011904.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11904">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329123933-01329125731-01329135599-01329147655- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011910.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11910">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329123933-01329125731-01329135599-01329147655-01329170094- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011913.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11913">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01329123933-01329125731-01329148935- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011911.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11911">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329123933-01329125731-01329148935-01329156850- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011912.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	task-gnome-3.3.2-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11912">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329204140- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011914.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11914">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329204140-01329209417- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011915.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11915">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329204140-01329209417-01329210775- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011916.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11916">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329204140-01329209417-01329210775-01329211343- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011917.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11917">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329204140-01329209417-01329210775-01329211343-01329212904- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011920.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11920">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329204140-01329209417-01329210775-01329211343-01329212904-01329213248- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011921.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11921">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329204140-01329209417-01329210775-01329211343-01329212904-01329213494- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011922.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11922">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329204140-01329209417-01329210775-01329211343-01329212904-01329213494-01329213996- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011923.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11923">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01329204140-01329212619- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011918.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11918">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329204140-01329212619-01329212848- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011919.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11919">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01329204140-01329237548- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011937.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11937">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329204140-01329237548-01329239543- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011939.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11939">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01329204140-01329237548-01329243472- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011944.html">[Mageia-dev] Beta 1 isos
+</A><A NAME="11944">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329214211- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011924.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports (WAS: Beta 1 isos)
+</A><A NAME="11924">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329214211-01329216519- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011925.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports (WAS: Beta 1 isos)
+</A><A NAME="11925">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juergen Harms
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329214211-01329216519-01329216966- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011926.html">[Mageia-dev] Backports (WAS: Beta 1 isos)
+</A><A NAME="11926">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329226327- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011927.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="11927">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329226327-01329226367- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011928.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="11928">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329226327-01329226367-01329232024- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011932.html">[Mageia-dev] Packagers meeting
+</A><A NAME="11932">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329233280- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011934.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11934">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329233280-01329239294- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011938.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11938">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329233280-01329239294-01329298752- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011975.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11975">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329233280-01329239294-01329298752-01329304375- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011981.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11981">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329233280-01329239294-01329298752-01329304375-01329309179- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011985.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11985">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329233280-01329239294-01329298752-01329304375-01329309179-01329309703- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011987.html">[Mageia-dev] meta-task update in cauldron
+</A><A NAME="11987">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329234917- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011936.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11936">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329234917-01329261673- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011959.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11959">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329234917-01329261673-01329298505- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011972.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11972">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329234917-01329261673-01329298505-01329300552- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011977.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11977">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329261673-01329298505-01329300552-01329302790- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011980.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11980">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329261673-01329298505-01329300552-01329309002- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011984.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11984">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329261673-01329298505-01329300552-01329309002-01329316288- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011994.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11994">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329261673-01329298505-01329300552-01329309002-01329316288-01329316725- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011995.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11995">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329261673-01329298505-01329300552-01329309002-01329316288-01329316725-01329317356- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011996.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11996">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01329234917-01329269903- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011960.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11960">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329234917-01329269903-01329298606- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011973.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11973">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329234917-01329269903-01329298606-01329351009- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012008.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12008">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329269903-01329298606-01329351009-01329363803- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012010.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12010">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329269903-01329298606-01329351009-01329377624- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012015.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12015">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01329234917-01329293436- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011966.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11966">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329234917-01329293436-01329294999- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011968.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11968">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andres Kaaber
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329234917-01329293436-01329294999-01329302777- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011979.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="11979">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>paulo
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329293436-01329294999-01329302777-01329402532- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012026.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12026">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329293436-01329294999-01329302777-01329402532-01329403901- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012027.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12027">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329293436-01329294999-01329302777-01329402532-01329403901-01329413114- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012032.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12032">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329293436-01329294999-01329302777-01329402532-01329403901-01329413114-01329418910- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012034.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12034">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329293436-01329294999-01329302777-01329402532-01329403901-01329617583- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012098.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12098">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329293436-01329294999-01329302777-01329402532-01329403901-01329617583-01329774320- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012163.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12163">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329293436-01329294999-01329302777-01329402532-01329403901-01329617583-01329774320-01329780291- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012165.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12165">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329293436-01329294999-01329302777-01329402532-01329403901-01329617583-01329774320-01329780291-01329816987- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012179.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12179">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329293436-01329294999-01329302777-01329402532-01329403901-01329617583-01329774320-01329780291-01329816987-01329827571- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012186.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12186">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329293436-01329294999-01329302777-01329402532-01329403901-01329617583-01329774320-01329780291-01329816987-01329827571-01329828839- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012187.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12187">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329293436-01329294999-01329302777-01329402532-01329403901-01329617583-01329774320-01329780291-01329816987-01329827571-01329828839-01329830172- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012188.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12188">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329293436-01329294999-01329302777-01329402532-01329403901-01329617583-01329774320-01329780291-01329816987-01329827571-01329828839-01329831206- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012189.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12189">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329293436-01329294999-01329302777-01329402532-01329403901-01329617583-01329774320-01329780291-01329816987-01329827571-01329828839-01329831206-01329834417- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012191.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12191">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329234917-01329293436-01329294999-01329302777-01329402532-01329403901-01329617583-01329774320-01329780291-01329816987-01329827571-01329828839-01329831206-01329834417-01329840443- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012194.html">[Mageia-dev] New Dracut: Please test
+</A><A NAME="12194">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329241150- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011940.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11940">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329241150-01329243455- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011943.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11943">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01329241150-01329244619- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011945.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11945">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329241150-01329244619-01329306671- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011982.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11982">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329241150-01329244619-01329306671-01329307924- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011983.html">[Mageia-dev] size of iso dvds
+</A><A NAME="11983">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329241150-01329244619-01329306671-01329307924-01329452142- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012043.html">[Mageia-dev] http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/ not accessbile	anymore
+</A><A NAME="12043">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329241150-01329244619-01329306671-01329307924-01329452142-01329470676- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012047.html">[Mageia-dev] http://check.mageia.org/cauldron/ not accessbile	anymore
+</A><A NAME="12047">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329242369- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011941.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11941">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329242369-01329242469- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011942.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11942">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329242369-01329242469-01329244757- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011946.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11946">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329242369-01329242469-01329244757-01329245919- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011947.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11947">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329242369-01329242469-01329244757-01329245919-01329248746- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011948.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11948">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329242369-01329242469-01329244757-01329245919-01329248746-01329249006- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011951.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11951">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329242369-01329242469-01329244757-01329245919-01329248746-01329249006-01329249215- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011952.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11952">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329242369-01329242469-01329244757-01329245919-01329248746-01329249006-01329249215-01329249729- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011954.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11954">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329242369-01329242469-01329244757-01329245919-01329248746-01329249006-01329249215-01329249729-01329250110- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011955.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11955">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329242369-01329242469-01329244757-01329245919-01329248746-01329249006-01329249215-01329249729-01329250110-01329251209- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011956.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11956">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329242369-01329242469-01329244757-01329245919-01329248746-01329249006-01329249215-01329333489- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012005.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="12005">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329242369-01329242469-01329244757-01329245919-01329248746-01329249006-01329249215-01329333489-01329336494- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012006.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="12006">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329242369-01329242469-01329244757-01329245919-01329248746-01329249006-01329249215-01329333489-01329348094- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012007.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="12007">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329242369-01329242469-01329244757-01329245919-01329248777- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011949.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11949">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329242369-01329242469-01329244757-01329245919-01329248777-01329249658- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011953.html">[Mageia-dev] Can't switch to virtual consoles
+</A><A NAME="11953">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Juan Luis Baptiste
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329242369-01329242469-01329244757-01329256894- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011958.html">[Mageia-dev] Handling of tty1 [was Can't switch to virtual consoles]
+</A><A NAME="11958">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329248986- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011950.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11950">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01329252261- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011957.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11957">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329252261-01329295514- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011969.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="11969">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329252261-01329295514-01329520333- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012074.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12074">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Barry Jackson
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01329252261-01329323912- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012002.html">[Mageia-dev] mgarepo log regression? (was:	c++-gtk-utils-2.0.4-1.mga2)
+</A><A NAME="12002">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329252261-01329323912-01329324192- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012003.html">[Mageia-dev] mgarepo log regression?
+</A><A NAME="12003">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329252261-01329323912-01329324192-01329326408- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012004.html">[Mageia-dev] mgarepo log regression?
+</A><A NAME="12004">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329275746- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011961.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11961">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kyle Fletcher
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329275746-01329292238- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011965.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11965">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01329275746-01329293755- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011967.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11967">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329275746-01329293755-01329338492- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011978.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11978">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Steven Tucker
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329275746-01329293755-01329338492-01329309889- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011988.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11988">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329275746-01329293755-01329338492-01329313201- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011992.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11992">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Denielou
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329275746-01329293755-01329338492-01329365760- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012011.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="12011">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01329275746-01329310844- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011990.html">[Mageia-dev] In need of a mentor
+</A><A NAME="11990">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Denielou
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329286601- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011962.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11962">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329286601-01329296154- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011970.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11970">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329286601-01329296154-01329309551- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011986.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11986">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329286601-01329296154-01329309551-01329311045- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011989.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11989">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329286601-01329296154-01329309551-01329311045-01329312093- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011991.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron nonfree/release	drakx-installer-images-1.64-3.mga2.nonfree
+</A><A NAME="11991">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329291798- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011964.html">[Mageia-dev] [URGENT] SVN down for ~30minutes
+</A><A NAME="11964">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329291798-01329298560- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011971.html">[Mageia-dev] [URGENT] SVN down for ~30minutes
+</A><A NAME="11971">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329291798-01329298560-01329298629- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011974.html">[Mageia-dev] [URGENT] SVN down for ~30minutes
+</A><A NAME="11974">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01329291798-01329299333- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011976.html">[Mageia-dev] [URGENT] SVN down for ~30minutes
+</A><A NAME="11976">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329314716- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011993.html">[Mageia-dev] Cleaning up GNOME spec files
+</A><A NAME="11993">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329314716-01329320584- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011998.html">[Mageia-dev] Cleaning up GNOME spec files
+</A><A NAME="11998">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329314716-01329320584-01329321266- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011999.html">[Mageia-dev] Cleaning up GNOME spec files
+</A><A NAME="11999">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329314716-01329320584-01329321266-01329321888- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012000.html">[Mageia-dev] Cleaning up GNOME spec files
+</A><A NAME="12000">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329320302- -->
+<LI><A HREF="011997.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="11997">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329320302-01329321966- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012001.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12001">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329320302-01329321966-01329374098- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012013.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12013">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329320302-01329321966-01329374098-01329374962- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012014.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12014">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01329320302-01329567256- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012080.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12080">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329320302-01329567256-01329568445- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012082.html">[Mageia-dev] Incorrect submission check: Unity desktop
+</A><A NAME="12082">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329367995- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012012.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dracut-015-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12012">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329367995-01329380983- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012016.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dracut-015-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12016">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329367995-01329380983-01329421345- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012036.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release dracut-015-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12036">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Charles A Edwards
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329367995-01329380983-01329421345-01329436699- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012039.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dracut-015-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12039">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329384032- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012017.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12017">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329384032-01329385164- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012019.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12019">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329384032-01329385164-01329385766- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012020.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12020">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329384032-01329385164-01329385766-01329386015- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012021.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12021">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329384032-01329385164-01329385766-01329386015-01329388836- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012022.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12022">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01329384032-01329418464- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012033.html">[Mageia-dev] Mounting a CDROM problem
+</A><A NAME="12033">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329384359- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012018.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Nonresponsive or absent package maintainers &amp;	policy discussion
+</A><A NAME="12018">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01329395403- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012023.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	rsyslog-5.8.6-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12023">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329395403-01329396618- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012024.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	rsyslog-5.8.6-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12024">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329398865- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012025.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-discuss] GSOC 2012
+</A><A NAME="12025">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Romain d'Alverny
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01329410506- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012028.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12028">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329410506-01329420233- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012035.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12035">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01329410506-01329429962- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012037.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12037">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012038.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12038">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012045.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12045">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012048.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12048">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012049.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12049">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329478606- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012050.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12050">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329478606-01329479752- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012051.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12051">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329478606-01329479752-01329480783- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012052.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12052">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329478606-01329479752-01329480783-01329482545- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012058.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12058">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329478606-01329479752-01329480783-01329485083- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012053.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12053">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329478606-01329479752-01329480783-01329485083-01329487904- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012059.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12059">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329478606-01329479752-01329480783-01329485083-01329487904-01329488912- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012061.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12061">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329478606-01329479752-01329480783-01329485083-01329487904-01329490245- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012064.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12064">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329478606-01329479752-01329480783-01329485083-01329487904-01329490245-01329568295- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012081.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12081">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329478606-01329479752-01329480783-01329485083-01329487904-01329490245-01329568295-01329570940- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012083.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12083">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329478606-01329479752-01329480783-01329485083-01329487904-01329490245-01329568295-01329570940-01329572616- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012084.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12084">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329478606-01329479752-01329480783-01329485083-01329487904-01329490245-01329568295-01329570940-01329572616-01329573875- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012085.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12085">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329485198- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012054.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12054">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329485198-01329485573- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012055.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12055">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329485198-01329485573-01329486538- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012056.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12056">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329485198-01329485573-01329486538-01329487564- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012057.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12057">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329485198-01329485573-01329488137- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012060.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12060">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329485198-01329485573-01329488137-01329490210- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012063.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12063">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329485198-01329485573-01329488137-01329492031- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012066.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12066">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329485198-01329485573-01329488137-01329492031-01329492262- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012067.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12067">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329485198-01329485573-01329488137-01329492031-01329492262-01329524922- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012075.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12075">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329485198-01329485573-01329488137-01329492031-01329492262-01329524922-01329591376- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012094.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12094">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329485198-01329485573-01329488137-01329492031-01329492262-01329524922-01329591376-01329593484- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012096.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12096">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329485198-01329485573-01329488137-01329492031-01329492262-01329524922-01329591376-01329668873- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012116.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12116">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329485198-01329485573-01329488137-01329492031-01329492262-01329524922-01329591376-01329668873-01329669914- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012119.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12119">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329410506-01329429962-01329436204-01329465354-01329473048-01329477376-01329485198-01329485573-01329491775- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012065.html">[Mageia-dev] About dm
+</A><A NAME="12065">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329411724- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012029.html">[Mageia-dev] Current kernel leads to crash
+</A><A NAME="12029">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329411724-01329411934- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012030.html">[Mageia-dev] Current kernel leads to crash
+</A><A NAME="12030">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Henrik Christiansen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329411724-01329411934-01329412458- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012031.html">[Mageia-dev] Current kernel leads to crash
+</A><A NAME="12031">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329445038- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012040.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12040">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329445038-01329446277- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012041.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12041">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329445038-01329446277-01329448251- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012042.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12042">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01329445038-01329468816- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012046.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12046">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329445038-01329468816-01329494423- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012068.html">[Mageia-dev] WindowMaker themes
+</A><A NAME="12068">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329465259- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012044.html">[Mageia-dev] check.mageia.org down
+</A><A NAME="12044">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01329488929- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012062.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xulrunner-10.0.2-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12062">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329488929-01329519124- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012073.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xulrunner-10.0.2-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12073">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329502736- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012069.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2	days
+</A><A NAME="12069">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Revillet
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329502736-01329502998- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012070.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost	2 days
+</A><A NAME="12070">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01329502736-01329512003- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012071.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12071">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01329502736-01329530809- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012076.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12076">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329502736-01329530809-01329557587- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012077.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since	almost	2 days
+</A><A NAME="12077">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329502736-01329530809-01329557587-01329562520- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012078.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since	almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12078">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329502736-01329530809-01329557587-01329562520-01329644115- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012099.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since	almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12099">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329502736-01329530809-01329557587-01329562520-01329644115-01329646458- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012100.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12100">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329502736-01329530809-01329557587-01329562520-01329644115-01329646458-01329653990- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012106.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost	2 days
+</A><A NAME="12106">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329502736-01329530809-01329557587-01329562520-01329644115-01329646458-01329653990-01329741048- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012140.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12140">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329502736-01329530809-01329557587-01329562520-01329644115-01329646458-01329653990-01329741048-01329741672- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012143.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since almost	2 days
+</A><A NAME="12143">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329502736-01329530809-01329557587-01329562520-01329644115-01329646458-01329663501- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012114.html">[Mageia-dev] libavformat needs libavfilter needs libavformat
+</A><A NAME="12114">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329502736-01329530809-01329557587-01329562520-01329644115-01329646458-01329663501-01329741614- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012142.html">[Mageia-dev] libavformat needs libavfilter needs libavformat
+</A><A NAME="12142">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329502736-01329530809-01329557587-01329562520-01329747326- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012146.html">[Mageia-dev] Qt-based software unusable under XFCE since	almost 2 days
+</A><A NAME="12146">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329516838- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012072.html">[Mageia-dev] k(m)ahjongg packages
+</A><A NAME="12072">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01329566221- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012079.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [2982] Use Isocheck; tests moved
+</A><A NAME="12079">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01329578437- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012086.html">[Mageia-dev] noarch packages existing only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12086">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329578437-01329580312- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012087.html">[Mageia-dev] noarch packages existing only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12087">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329578437-01329580312-01329580616- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012088.html">[Mageia-dev] noarch packages existing only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12088">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01329578437-01329580619- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012089.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] noarch packages existing only on	x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12089">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329578437-01329580619-01329580904- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012090.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] noarch packages existing only on x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12090">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01329578437-01329580619-01329581048- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012091.html">[Mageia-dev] [Mageia-sysadm] noarch packages existing only on	x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12091">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329586069- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012092.html">[Mageia-dev] chroot for mageia 1; db42_load?
+</A><A NAME="12092">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329586069-01329591296- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012093.html">[Mageia-dev] chroot for mageia 1; db42_load?
+</A><A NAME="12093">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329586069-01329591296-01329666256- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012113.html">[Mageia-dev] chroot for mageia 1; db42_load?
+</A><A NAME="12113">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329593199- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012095.html">[Mageia-dev] Default docks for WindowMaker
+</A><A NAME="12095">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01329602474- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012097.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libproxy-0.4.7-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12097">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01329648149- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012102.html">[Mageia-dev] Unetbooting and extlinx - strange issue
+</A><A NAME="12102">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329648149-01329665111- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012112.html">[Mageia-dev] p11-kit needs libp11-kit needs p11-kit
+</A><A NAME="12112">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329648166- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012101.html">[Mageia-dev] Unetbooting and extlinx - strange issue
+</A><A NAME="12101">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Robert Fox
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329648166-01329897254- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012207.html">[Mageia-dev] Unetbooting and extlinx - strange issue
+</A><A NAME="12207">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329650461- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012103.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dietlibc-0.33-4.20110311.3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12103">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01329650638- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012104.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	wmdrawer-0.10.5-12.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12104">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329650638-01329671179- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012120.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	wmdrawer-0.10.5-12.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12120">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329653624- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012105.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging help for GDM+GNOME Mageia background (long)
+</A><A NAME="12105">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329653624-01329912703- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012217.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging help for GDM+GNOME Mageia background (long)
+</A><A NAME="12217">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329656768- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012107.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libpng-1.5.9-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12107">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01329657259- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012108.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12108">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329657259-01329663575- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012111.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12111">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329657259-01329663575-01329702574- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012130.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12130">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329657259-01329663575-01329702574-01329746416- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012145.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12145">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329657259-01329663575-01329702574-01329746416-01329918584- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012220.html">[Mageia-dev] printer-filter-utils
+</A><A NAME="12220">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329660291- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012109.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	postfix-2.8.8-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12109">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329660291-01329663426- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012110.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	postfix-2.8.8-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12110">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329687110- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012124.html">[Mageia-dev] xscreensaver
+</A><A NAME="12124">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Z&#233;zinho
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329687110-01329689035- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012126.html">[Mageia-dev] xscreensaver
+</A><A NAME="12126">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329688676- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012125.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] cauldron core/release	phpmyadmin-3.4.10-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12125">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01329691299- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012127.html">[Mageia-dev] desktop-file-utils and jpackage-utils questions
+</A><A NAME="12127">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329691299-01329691930- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012128.html">[Mageia-dev] desktop-file-utils and jpackage-utils questions
+</A><A NAME="12128">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329691299-01329691930-01329711463- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012133.html">[Mageia-dev] desktop-file-utils and jpackage-utils questions
+</A><A NAME="12133">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329694503- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012129.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox craches on libstdc++
+</A><A NAME="12129">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329694503-01329720273- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012134.html">[Mageia-dev] Firefox craches on libstdc++
+</A><A NAME="12134">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329733887- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012136.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12136">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329733887-01329735542- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012138.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12138">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329733887-01329735542-01329736165- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012139.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12139">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jose Jorge
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01329733887-01329735542-01329749109- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012147.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12147">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329733887-01329735542-01329749109-01329750106- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012148.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12148">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329733887-01329735542-01329749109-01329750106-01329751842- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012151.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12151">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329733887-01329735542-01329749109-01329750106-01329751842-01329753712- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012152.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12152">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329733887-01329735542-01329749109-01329750106-01329751842-01329753712-01329753981- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012154.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12154">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329733887-01329735542-01329749109-01329750106-01329751842-01329753809- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012153.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12153">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329733887-01329735542-01329749109-01329750106-01329751842-01329753809-01329754917- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012156.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12156">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329733887-01329735542-01329749109-01329750106-01329751842-01329753809-01329754917-01329756589- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012157.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12157">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329733887-01329735542-01329749109-01329750106-01329751842-01329753809-01329754917-01329756589-01329773153- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012162.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12162">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329733887-01329735542-01329749109-01329750106-01329751842-01329753809-01329754917-01329756589-01329773153-01329812710- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012171.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12171">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329733887-01329735542-01329749109-01329750106-01329751842-01329754361- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012155.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12155">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329733887-01329735542-01329749109-01329750106-01329752368- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012150.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12150">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Wolfgang Bornath
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01329733887-01329735542-01329749732- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012149.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12149">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Liam R E Quin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01329733887-01329741572- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012141.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12141">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01329733887-01329840774- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012195.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12195">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329733887-01329840774-01329842589- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012196.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12196">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329733887-01329840774-01329842589-01329844500- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012198.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12198">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pa&#239;ou
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329733887-01329840774-01329842589-01329844500-01329895963- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012206.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12206">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01329733887-01329840774-01329842761- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012197.html">[Mageia-dev] xguest and the display manager
+</A><A NAME="12197">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329765319- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012158.html">[Mageia-dev] package default settings question
+</A><A NAME="12158">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lev Givon
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329765319-01329817340- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012181.html">[Mageia-dev] python-virtualenv: package default settings	question
+</A><A NAME="12181">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329765319-01329817340-01329839893- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012193.html">[Mageia-dev] python-virtualenv: package default settings	question
+</A><A NAME="12193">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Lev Givon
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329765319-01329817340-01329839893-01329892412- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012203.html">[Mageia-dev] python-virtualenv: package default settings	question
+</A><A NAME="12203">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Marja van Waes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329765319-01329817340-01329839893-01329892412-01329922341- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012221.html">[Mageia-dev] python-virtualenv: package default settings	question
+</A><A NAME="12221">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329768067- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012159.html">[Mageia-dev] Wifi not working anymore
+</A><A NAME="12159">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329768067-01329770193- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012160.html">[Mageia-dev] Wifi not working anymore
+</A><A NAME="12160">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329768067-01329770193-01329770365- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012161.html">[Mageia-dev] Wifi not working anymore
+</A><A NAME="12161">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329768067-01329770193-01329770365-01329776408- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012164.html">[Mageia-dev] Wifi not working anymore
+</A><A NAME="12164">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329780624- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012166.html">[Mageia-dev] hicolor-icon-theme question
+</A><A NAME="12166">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329780624-01329815092- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012175.html">[Mageia-dev] hicolor-icon-theme question
+</A><A NAME="12175">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329780624-01329815092-01329817283- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012180.html">[Mageia-dev] hicolor-icon-theme question
+</A><A NAME="12180">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329789201- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012167.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12167">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329789201-01329789794- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012168.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12168">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Bowden
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01329789201-01329801390- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012169.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12169">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01329789201-01329807373- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012170.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12170">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329813473- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012172.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12172">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329813473-01329814214- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012173.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12173">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329813473-01329814214-01329814197- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012174.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12174">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329813473-01329814214-01329814197-01329815888- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012176.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12176">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01329813473-01329832549- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012190.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12190">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329813473-01329832549-01329838503- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012192.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12192">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329813473-01329832549-01329838503-01330254076- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012348.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12348">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329813473-01329832549-01329838503-01330254076-01330281494- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012364.html">[Mageia-dev] proposition to drop xedit
+</A><A NAME="12364">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329816008- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012177.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12177">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329816008-01329822559- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012182.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm package re-organize?
+</A><A NAME="12182">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329816437- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012178.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with  rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12178">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329816437-01329824937- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012183.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12183">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01329816437-01329825234- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012184.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12184">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329816437-01329825234-01329826001- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012185.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12185">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01329816437-01329885386- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012200.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with  rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12200">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329816437-01329885386-01329944042- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012225.html">[Mageia-dev] Problem with  rpm -q --whatrequires
+</A><A NAME="12225">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329854430- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012199.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12199">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329854430-01329918091- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012218.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12218">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329854430-01329918091-01329918290- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012219.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12219">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329854430-01329918091-01329918290-01329987514- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012233.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329854430-01329918091-01329918290-01329987514-01329994823- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012237.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329854430-01329918091-01329918290-01329987514-01329994823-01330011442- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012247.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329854430-01329918091-01329918290-01329987514-01329994823-01330011442-01330109941- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012295.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12295">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329854430-01329918091-01329918290-01329987514-01329994823-01330011442-01330109941-01330113220- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012297.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12297">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329854430-01329918091-01329918290-01329987514-01329994823-01330011442-01330109941-01330160553- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012309.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12309">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329854430-01329918091-01329918290-01329987514-01329994823-01330011442-01330109941-01330160553-01330200308- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012338.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12338">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329854430-01329918091-01329918290-01330202967- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012339.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 beta 1
+</A><A NAME="12339">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Christian Lohmaier
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329887046- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012201.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm default theme (was: icewm package re-organize?)
+</A><A NAME="12201">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329887046-01329890138- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012202.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm default theme (was: icewm package	re-organize?)
+</A><A NAME="12202">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329887046-01329890138-01329892934- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012204.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm default theme (was: icewm package	re-organize?)
+</A><A NAME="12204">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329887046-01329890138-01329892934-01329893697- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012205.html">[Mageia-dev] icewm default theme (was: icewm package	re-organize?)
+</A><A NAME="12205">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329900183- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012210.html">[Mageia-dev] Return of the jedi
+</A><A NAME="12210">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01329914233- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012215.html">[Mageia-dev] Cinnamon
+</A><A NAME="12215">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329914233-01329915780- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012216.html">[Mageia-dev] Cinnamon
+</A><A NAME="12216">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329927807- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012222.html">[Mageia-dev] Faster GNOME package submission
+</A><A NAME="12222">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329927807-01330437615- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012421.html">[Mageia-dev] Faster GNOME package submission
+</A><A NAME="12421">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329930792- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012223.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3012] Add ability to increase the version number of a given package
+</A><A NAME="12223">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329930792-01329937147- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012224.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3012] Add ability to increase the version number of a given package
+</A><A NAME="12224">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329930792-01329937147-01329992184- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012236.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3012] Add ability to increase the version number of a given package
+</A><A NAME="12236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329949486- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012226.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329949486-01329950021- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012227.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329949486-01329950021-01329950113- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012228.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329949486-01329950021-01329950113-01329985939- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012231.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329949486-01329950021-01329950113-01329985939-01329986802- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012232.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329949486-01329950021-01329950113-01329985939-01329986802-01329988049- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012235.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01329949486-01329950021-01330010643- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012244.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	cogl-1.9.6-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329979122- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012229.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01329979122-01329984763- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012230.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01329979122-01329984763-01330003881- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012239.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01329979122-01329984763-01330003881-01330010719- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012245.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01329979122-01329984763-01330003881-01330010719-01330072380- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012262.html">[Mageia-dev] How to see the Suggests of a rpm package
+</A><A NAME="12262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remco Rijnders
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01329988504- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012234.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	cogl-1.9.6-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01330001011- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012238.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libproxy-0.4.7-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330001011-01330011411- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012246.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libproxy-0.4.7-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330001011-01330011411-01330013129- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012248.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	libproxy-0.4.7-4.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330003975- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012240.html">[Mageia-dev] Little proposal of rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330003975-01330006242- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012241.html">[Mageia-dev] Little proposal of rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12241">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330003975-01330006242-01330008509- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012242.html">[Mageia-dev] Little proposal of rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330003975-01330006242-01330008509-01330008612- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012243.html">[Mageia-dev] Little proposal of rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330018326- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012249.html">[Mageia-dev] Something to replace Mandriva Seed - Rufus
+</A><A NAME="12249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330018326-01330257007- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012350.html">[Mageia-dev] Something to replace Mandriva Seed - Rufus
+</A><A NAME="12350">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330020797- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012250.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330020797-01330032945- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012251.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330020797-01330032945-01330034267- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012252.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330020797-01330032945-01330034267-01330035317- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012253.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330020797-01330032945-01330034267-01330035317-01330036583- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012254.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>LinuxBSDos.com
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01330020797-01330066607- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012261.html">[Mageia-dev] Stackfolder, Takeoff Launcher and Tomoyo-gui
+</A><A NAME="12261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330036584- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012255.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330036584-01330036896- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012256.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330036584-01330036896-01330037078- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012257.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330036584-01330036896-01330037078-01330039668- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012258.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330036584-01330036896-01330037078-01330039668-01330072828- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012263.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne Nicolas
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01330036584-01330050047- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012260.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01330036584-01330093330- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012285.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12285">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330036584-01330093330-01330093500- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012286.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12286">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330036584-01330093330-01330093500-01330094066- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012287.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12287">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01330036584-01330093330-01330096911- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012288.html">[Mageia-dev] rpmsrate cleaning
+</A><A NAME="12288">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330049834- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012259.html">[Mageia-dev] Order of nics when multiple network interfaces	detected.
+</A><A NAME="12259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330049834-01330083967- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012274.html">[Mageia-dev] Order of nics when multiple network interfaces	detected.
+</A><A NAME="12274">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330049834-01330083967-01330209281- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012340.html">[Mageia-dev] Order of nics when multiple network interfaces detected.
+</A><A NAME="12340">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330049834-01330083967-01330209281-01330296532- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012374.html">[Mageia-dev] Order of nics when multiple network interfaces	detected.
+</A><A NAME="12374">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330073041- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012264.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libchamplain-0.12.1-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330073041-01330479533- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012430.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release libchamplain-0.12.1-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12430">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330076107- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012265.html">[Mageia-dev] ConsoleKit vs systemd session tracking for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="12265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01330081785- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012266.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330081785-01330081962- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012267.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12267">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330081785-01330081962-01330103644- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012294.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12294">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330081785-01330081962-01330103644-01330113013- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012296.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12296">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330081962-01330103644-01330113013-01330117706- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012298.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12298">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01330081785-01330082024- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012268.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12268">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01330081785-01330082070- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012269.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12269">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330081785-01330082070-01330083357- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012270.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12270">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre Jarillon
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01330081785-01330082070-01330083545- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012272.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12272">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330081785-01330082070-01330083545-01330084855- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012275.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12275">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330082070-01330083545-01330084855-01330085624- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012276.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12276">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330082070-01330083545-01330084855-01330085624-01330088541- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012281.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12281">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330082070-01330083545-01330084855-01330085624-01330088541-01330089581- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012283.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12283">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330082070-01330083545-01330084855-01330085624-01330097246- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012291.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12291">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330082070-01330083545-01330084855-01330085624-01330097246-01330097913- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012292.html">[Mageia-dev] Article in Linux Today News
+</A><A NAME="12292">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Richard Couture
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01330081785-01330082070-01330086364- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012277.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12277">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330081785-01330082070-01330086364-01330086610- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012278.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12278">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330082070-01330086364-01330086610-01330087068- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012279.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12279">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330082070-01330086364-01330086610-01330087068-01330088618- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012282.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12282">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330082070-01330086364-01330088339- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012280.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12280">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330082070-01330086364-01330093142- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012284.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12284">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330082070-01330086364-01330093142-01330099640- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012293.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12293">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01330081785-01330083118- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012271.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing  Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12271">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Buchan Milne
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330081785-01330083118-01330097188- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012290.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12290">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01330081785-01330097071- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012289.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12289">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330081785-01330097071-01330118150- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012299.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12299">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330081785-01330097071-01330118150-01330118739- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012300.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12300">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330097071-01330118150-01330118739-01330128042- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012302.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12302">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330097071-01330118150-01330118739-01330128042-01330142418- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012303.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12303">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330097071-01330118150-01330118739-01330128042-01330166357- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012311.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12311">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330097071-01330118150-01330118739-01330128042-01330166357-01330166698- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012312.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12312">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330097071-01330118150-01330118739-01330128042-01330166357-01330166698-01330170420- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012315.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12315">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330097071-01330118150-01330118739-01330128042-01330166357-01330166698-01330170420-01330171450- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012316.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12316">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330097071-01330118150-01330118739-01330128042-01330166357-01330166698-01330170420-01330171450-01330173554- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012317.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12317">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330097071-01330118150-01330118739-01330128042-01330166357-01330166698-01330170420-01330171450-01330173554-01330174783- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012318.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12318">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sander Lepik
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330097071-01330118150-01330118739-01330128042-01330166357-01330166698-01330170420-01330171450-01330173554-01330174783-01330176009- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012320.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12320">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330081785-01330097071-01330118150-01330118739-01330128042-01330166357-01330166698-01330170420-01330171450-01330173554-01330174783-01330176009-01330178747- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012321.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing Core 32bit from x86_64
+</A><A NAME="12321">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330083721- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012273.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12273">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330083721-01330146291- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012304.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12304">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330083721-01330146291-01330166764- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012313.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12313">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01330083721-01330155311- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012306.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12306">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330083721-01330155311-01330160065- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012308.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12308">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01330083721-01330155311-01330167579- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012314.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12314">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330083721-01330155311-01330167579-01330209470- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012341.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12341">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David W. Hodgins
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330083721-01330155311-01330167579-01330209470-01330283493- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012368.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12368">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330083721-01330155311-01330167579-01330345597- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012398.html">[Mageia-dev] New dracut - please test
+</A><A NAME="12398">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330122842- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012301.html">[Mageia-dev] Update blocked on i586
+</A><A NAME="12301">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330122842-01330154948- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012305.html">[Mageia-dev] Update blocked on i586
+</A><A NAME="12305">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330122842-01330154948-01330187085- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012331.html">[Mageia-dev] Update blocked on i586
+</A><A NAME="12331">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330155709- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012307.html">[Mageia-dev] Volume mixer for Window Maker
+</A><A NAME="12307">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330155709-01330162477- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012310.html">[Mageia-dev] Volume mixer for Window Maker
+</A><A NAME="12310">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330155709-01330162477-01330174918- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012319.html">[Mageia-dev] Volume mixer for Window Maker
+</A><A NAME="12319">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>John Balcaen
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330155709-01330162477-01330174918-01330186584- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012330.html">[Mageia-dev] Volume mixer for Window Maker
+</A><A NAME="12330">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330181211- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012322.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12322">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330181211-01330182936- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012324.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12324">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330181211-01330182936-01330185172- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012326.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12326">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330181211-01330182936-01330185172-01330189035- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012333.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12333">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01330181211-01330347685- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012404.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12404">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Damien Lallement
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330181211-01330347685-01330369689- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012406.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Claire Robinson
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01330181211-01330347685-01330369752- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012407.html">[Mageia-dev] Default graphics software
+</A><A NAME="12407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330185065- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012325.html">[Mageia-dev] Binrepo issue
+</A><A NAME="12325">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330185065-01330185407- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012327.html">[Mageia-dev] Binrepo issue
+</A><A NAME="12327">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330185065-01330185407-01330185958- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012328.html">[Mageia-dev] Binrepo issue
+</A><A NAME="12328">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sandro CAZZANIGA
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330186412- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012329.html">[Mageia-dev] xinit upgraded to 1.3.2
+</A><A NAME="12329">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330186412-01330341469- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012395.html">[Mageia-dev] xinit upgraded to 1.3.2
+</A><A NAME="12395">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330186412-01330341469-01330347829- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012399.html">[Mageia-dev] xinit upgraded to 1.3.2
+</A><A NAME="12399">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>EatDirt
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330187238- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012332.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3047] - fix wrong dates in the	NEWS file
+</A><A NAME="12332">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330187238-01330190691- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012336.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3047] - fix wrong dates in the	NEWS file
+</A><A NAME="12336">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330189591- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012334.html">[Mageia-dev] check on mga1 may needs some changes
+</A><A NAME="12334">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330189591-01330189706- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012335.html">[Mageia-dev] check on mga1 may needs some changes
+</A><A NAME="12335">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01330189591-01330222862- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012342.html">[Mageia-dev] check on mga1 may needs some changes
+</A><A NAME="12342">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330196223- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012337.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12337">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330196223-01330258190- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012351.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12351">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330196223-01330258190-01330275342- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012359.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12359">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jeff Robins
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330196223-01330258190-01330275342-01330277515- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012360.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12360">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330196223-01330258190-01330275342-01330279782- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012362.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12362">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pierre-Malo Deni&#233;lou
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330196223-01330258190-01330275342-01330279782-01330292551- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012371.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12371">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330196223-01330258190-01330275342-01330279782-01330292551-01330338026- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012391.html">[Mageia-dev] Looking for a packaging mentor
+</A><A NAME="12391">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330224446- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012343.html">[Mageia-dev] Icewm package re-organized in Caldron
+</A><A NAME="12343">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01330231358- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012344.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system broken
+</A><A NAME="12344">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330231358-01330260928- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012354.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system broken
+</A><A NAME="12354">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330231358-01330260928-01330265203- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012355.html">[Mageia-dev] Build system broken
+</A><A NAME="12355">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330252439- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012346.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks moved to usr ?
+</A><A NAME="12346">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330252439-01330256279- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012349.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks moved to usr ?
+</A><A NAME="12349">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01330252439-01330283440- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012367.html">[Mageia-dev] udisks moved to usr ?
+</A><A NAME="12367">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330253134- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012347.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12347">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luc Menut
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330253134-01330260638- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012353.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12353">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330253134-01330260638-01330287510- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012369.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12369">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330253134-01330260638-01330287510-01330291117- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012370.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12370">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330253134-01330260638-01330287510-01330294835- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012373.html">[Mageia-dev] [packages-commits] [215093] SILENT: Fix install
+</A><A NAME="12373">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Walser
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330270583- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012358.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12358">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330270583-01330279790- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012361.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12361">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330270583-01330279790-01330284579- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012377.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12377">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Julien
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01330270583-01330281178- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012363.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12363">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>eatdirt
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01330270583-01330339299- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012396.html">[Mageia-dev] Replace Gqview by Geeqie
+</A><A NAME="12396">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Shlomi Fish
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330271261- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012356.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuilds needed ?
+</A><A NAME="12356">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Frank Griffin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330271261-01330272820- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012357.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuilds needed ?
+</A><A NAME="12357">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330282987- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012365.html">[Mageia-dev] Removing obsolete packages
+</A><A NAME="12365">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01330292862- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012372.html">[Mageia-dev] ConsoleKit vs systemd session tracking for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="12372">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330292862-01330296543- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012375.html">[Mageia-dev] ConsoleKit vs systemd session tracking for Mageia 2
+</A><A NAME="12375">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330301348- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012376.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="12376">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330301348-01330302125- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012378.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="12378">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330301348-01330302125-01330309816- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012379.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="12379">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330301348-01330302125-01330309816-01330340409- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012392.html">[Mageia-dev] Rebuild failed on noarch for	@211804:firefox-l10n-10.0.2-2.mga2.src.rpm
+</A><A NAME="12392">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Florian Hubold
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330315707- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012380.html">[Mageia-dev] BS down
+</A><A NAME="12380">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330315707-01330326553- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012382.html">[Mageia-dev] BS down
+</A><A NAME="12382">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330326031- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012381.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dovecot-1.2.17-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12381">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330326031-01330330817- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012383.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dovecot-1.2.17-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12383">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330326031-01330330817-01330369668- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012405.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	dovecot-1.2.17-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330326031-01330330817-01330369668-01330376269- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012408.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	dovecot-1.2.17-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330330780- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012384.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME-shell/mutter 3.3.90 memory usage
+</A><A NAME="12384">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330330780-01330341152- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012394.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME-shell/mutter 3.3.90 memory usage
+</A><A NAME="12394">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01330330780-01330445526- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012423.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME-shell/mutter 3.3.90 memory usage
+</A><A NAME="12423">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330330780-01330445526-01330453837- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012424.html">[Mageia-dev] GNOME-shell/mutter 3.3.90 memory usage
+</A><A NAME="12424">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330332298- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012385.html">[Mageia-dev] Two versions of udisks
+</A><A NAME="12385">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>JA Magall&#243;n
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330332298-01330341023- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012393.html">[Mageia-dev] Two versions of udisks
+</A><A NAME="12393">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330336432- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012386.html">[Mageia-dev] Obsoleting mail-notification?
+</A><A NAME="12386">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330336432-01330339629- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012390.html">[Mageia-dev] Obsoleting mail-notification?
+</A><A NAME="12390">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330336432-01330339629-01330348005- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012400.html">[Mageia-dev] Obsoleting mail-notification?
+</A><A NAME="12400">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330336976- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012387.html">[Mageia-dev] please drop python-xpcom
+</A><A NAME="12387">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Z&#233;zinho
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330336976-01330337063- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012388.html">[Mageia-dev] please drop python-xpcom
+</A><A NAME="12388">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01330336976-01330337934- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012389.html">[Mageia-dev] please drop python-xpcom
+</A><A NAME="12389">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330336976-01330337934-01330544707- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012449.html">[Mageia-dev] please drop python-xpcom
+</A><A NAME="12449">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>zezinho
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330345417- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012397.html">[Mageia-dev] changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release mplayer-1.0-1.rc4.0.r34578.2.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="12397">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330345417-01330348362- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012401.html">[Mageia-dev] changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	mplayer-1.0-1.rc4.0.r34578.2.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="12401">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Johnny A. Solbu
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330345417-01330348362-01330362801- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012403.html">[Mageia-dev] changelog] [RPM] cauldron tainted/release	mplayer-1.0-1.rc4.0.r34578.2.mga2.tainted
+</A><A NAME="12403">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330352631- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012402.html">[Mageia-dev] RFC: Replace module-init-tools by kmod?
+</A><A NAME="12402">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01330394196- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012409.html">[Mageia-dev] Mageia 2 sound scheme?
+</A><A NAME="12409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Sebastian sebsebseb
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01330409985- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012410.html">[Mageia-dev] binrepo offline?
+</A><A NAME="12410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Funda Wang
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330409985-01330410280- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012411.html">[Mageia-dev] binrepo offline?
+</A><A NAME="12411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01330409985-01330411454- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012412.html">[Mageia-dev] binrepo offline?
+</A><A NAME="12412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>D.Morgan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330427038- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012414.html">[Mageia-dev] shadow-utils
+</A><A NAME="12414">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330427038-01330428533- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012415.html">[Mageia-dev] shadow-utils
+</A><A NAME="12415">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330427038-01330428533-01330433782- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012416.html">[Mageia-dev] shadow-utils
+</A><A NAME="12416">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01330427038-01330438700- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012422.html">[Mageia-dev] shadow-utils
+</A><A NAME="12422">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330435470- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012417.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3118] - mark a new release and	copy it into	tags/1:2-4
+</A><A NAME="12417">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330435470-01330435908- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012418.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3118] - mark a new release and copy it into	tags/1:2-4
+</A><A NAME="12418">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330435470-01330435908-01330436979- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012419.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3118] - mark a new release and copy it into tags/1:2-4
+</A><A NAME="12419">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330435470-01330435908-01330436979-01330437414- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012420.html">[Mageia-dev] [soft-commits] [3118] - mark a new release and copy it into tags/1:2-4
+</A><A NAME="12420">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Guillaume Rousse
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330455917- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012425.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	meta-task-2-30.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12425">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330455917-01330457621- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012426.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release meta-task-2-30.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12426">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330455917-01330457621-01330478863- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012429.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	meta-task-2-30.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12429">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>You-Cheng Hsieh
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330455917-01330457621-01330478863-01330536483- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012445.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release meta-task-2-30.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12445">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Manuel Hiebel
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330470647- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012427.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12427">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330470647-01330470883- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012428.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12428">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330470647-01330470883-01330479935- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012431.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12431">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330470647-01330470883-01330479935-01330505200- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012433.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12433">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olav Vitters
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--1 01330470647-01330505738- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012434.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12434">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330470647-01330505738-01330505943- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012435.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12435">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01330470647-01330505738-01330511190- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012436.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12436">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330470647-01330505738-01330511190-01330511515- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012437.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12437">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330470647-01330505738-01330511190-01330511515-01330511663- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012438.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12438">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330470647-01330505738-01330511190-01330511515-01330511907- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012439.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron	core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12439">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330470647-01330505738-01330511190-01330511515-01330512034- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012440.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12440">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01330470647-01330505738-01330511190-01330511515-01330512034-01330513606- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012441.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12441">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330498139- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012432.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12432">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jani V&#228;limaa
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330498139-01330544659- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012448.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release evolution-3.3.90-2.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12448">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dimitri Jakov
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01330519939- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012442.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	aria2-1.14.2-1.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12442">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01330524994- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012443.html">[Mageia-dev] Tonight's meeting
+</A><A NAME="12443">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01330533288- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012444.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12444">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01330533288-01330537499- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012446.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12446">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01330533288-01330537499-01330538343- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012447.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12447">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01330533288-01330537499-01330538343-01330549591- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012450.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12450">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--2 01330533288-01330537499-01330555313- -->
+<LI><A HREF="012451.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release	xdm-1.1.11-3.mga2
+</A><A NAME="12451">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Kamil Rytarowski
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+    </ul>
+    <p>
+      <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a> 
+       <i>Wed Feb 29 23:41:53 CET 2012</i><br>
+    <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Mon Jun 11 16:46:32 CEST 2012</i>
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