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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 09/08/12 19:29 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 9 August 2012 20:18, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I've the impression that for some time, kernels do not power off machines
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> anymore on shutdown.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The kernel prints &quot;System halted.&quot; but the machine remains powered.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I've seen that with VMs and with real PCs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Does someone else see that?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Humm, in fact it looks like halt == shutdown -H now whereas in the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> old days it was equivalent to &quot;shudown -P&quot; (which still works OK).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Since &quot;halt&quot; is now provided by systemd, this is were the regression
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> come from...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would suggests sg like this in order to restore previous behaviour
+</I>
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+This has already been reported and I've simply closed the bugs and said
+that I will not fix this.
+
+What is the point in having two commands if they both do the same thing?
+I actually find the halt command useful for ensuring the correct thing
+happens on shutdown (e.g. that we re-enter the initrd and pivot root out
+of the main filesystem to ensure /usr us unmounted and LVM/raid etc.
+properly tidied up). If you cannot issue a halt, it's nigh on impossible
+to debug these things, so a patch to systemd would be IMO be a very bad
+idea. I wouldn't necessarily be completely against a patch that made
+running &quot;halt&quot; work differently to &quot;systemctl halt&quot;, but such a patch
+would likely be ugly and it's certainly not going to be accepted
+upstream and it means inconsistent behaviour and as a result I'd rather
+just let people adapt to the current (and IMO correct) behaviour - I
+still maintain the old behaviour was broken and this that systemd simply
+restores what the behaviour should have been all along.
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+Col
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+Colin Guthrie
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