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I thought the change was harmless because it didn't +</I>><i> bump the library's libmajor, but apparently the KDE packages require an exact +</I>><i> version 0.3 of attica's libraries which seems broken to me. +</I> +I have to agree here that something is "funny" in the libattica package +which ultimately helped to contribute to this issue. + +e.g. on my system before update (tho' with similar results after): + +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ rpm -q --provides lib64attica0 +libattica.so.0.3()(64bit) +lib64attica0 = 0.3.0-1.mga2 +lib64attica0(x86-64) = 0.3.0-1.mga2 +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ rpm -ql lib64attica0 +/usr/lib64/libattica.so.0.3 +/usr/lib64/libattica.so.0.3.0 + +IMO this *should* be: + +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ rpm -q --provides lib64attica0 +libattica.so.0()(64bit) +lib64attica0 = 0.3.0-1.mga2 +lib64attica0(x86-64) = 0.3.0-1.mga2 +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ rpm -ql lib64attica0 +/usr/lib64/libattica.so.0 +/usr/lib64/libattica.so.0.3.0 + + +So I can see how this mistake was made and TBH I could have made the +same mistake myself (with the caveat that I likely would not have bumped +the version of someone else's package with out confirming first and that +it should have been obvious from testing and installing the build) + +But either way this seems like an issue to fix properly (possibly with +an upstream fix or some modification to the library policy when the +minor version is "presented" like this). + + +FWIW there are some other examples I can find: + +This one just looks "odd" generally: +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ rpm -qf /usr/lib64/libxenctrl.so.4.0 +lib64xen3.0-4.1.2-4.mga2 +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ rpm -q --provides lib64xen3.0 +libblktap.so.3.0()(64bit) +libblktapctl.so.1.0()(64bit) +libflask.so.1.0()(64bit) +libfsimage.so.1.0()(64bit) +libvhd.so.1.0()(64bit) +libxenctrl.so.4.0()(64bit) +libxenguest.so.4.0()(64bit) +libxenlight.so.1.0()(64bit) +libxenstore.so.3.0()(64bit) +libxlutil.so.1.0()(64bit) +lib64xen3.0 = 4.1.2-4.mga2 +lib64xen3.0(x86-64) = 4.1.2-4.mga2 + + +This one is even more strange as the "major" appears to be the +concatenation of the major and minor: + + +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ rpm -q --provides lib64ice33 +libFreeze.so.33()(64bit) +libGlacier2.so.33()(64bit) +libIce.so.33()(64bit) +libIceBox.so.33()(64bit) +libIceGrid.so.33()(64bit) +libIcePatch2.so.33()(64bit) +libIceSSL.so.33()(64bit) +libIceStorm.so.33()(64bit) +libIceStormService.so.33()(64bit) +libIceUtil.so.33()(64bit) +libIceXML.so.33()(64bit) +libSlice.so.33()(64bit) +lib64ice33 = 3.3.1-5.mga2 +lib64ice33(x86-64) = 3.3.1-5.mga2 +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ rpm -ql lib64ice33 +/usr/lib64/libFreeze.so.3.3.1 +/usr/lib64/libFreeze.so.33 +/usr/lib64/libGlacier2.so.3.3.1 +/usr/lib64/libGlacier2.so.33 +/usr/lib64/libIce.so.3.3.1 +/usr/lib64/libIce.so.33 +/usr/lib64/libIceBox.so.3.3.1 +/usr/lib64/libIceBox.so.33 +/usr/lib64/libIceGrid.so.3.3.1 +/usr/lib64/libIceGrid.so.33 +/usr/lib64/libIcePatch2.so.3.3.1 +/usr/lib64/libIcePatch2.so.33 +/usr/lib64/libIceSSL.so.3.3.1 +/usr/lib64/libIceSSL.so.33 +/usr/lib64/libIceStorm.so.3.3.1 +/usr/lib64/libIceStorm.so.33 +/usr/lib64/libIceStormService.so.3.3.1 +/usr/lib64/libIceStormService.so.33 +/usr/lib64/libIceUtil.so.3.3.1 +/usr/lib64/libIceUtil.so.33 +/usr/lib64/libIceXML.so.3.3.1 +/usr/lib64/libIceXML.so.33 +/usr/lib64/libSlice.so.3.3.1 +/usr/lib64/libSlice.so.33 + + +And finally here is one that provides symlinks at both levels of major: + +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ rpm -q --provides lib64qtxml4 +qtxmllib = 4:4.8.2 +lib64qtxml4 = 4:4.8.2-4.mga3 +lib64qtxml4(x86-64) = 4:4.8.2-4.mga3 +libQtXml.so.4()(64bit) +[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">colin at jimmy</A> ~]$ rpm -ql lib64qtxml4 +/usr/lib64/libQtXml.so.4 +/usr/lib64/libQtXml.so.4.8 +/usr/lib64/libQtXml.so.4.8.2 + +Not an exhaustive list, just some random looks at my /usr/lib64 folder. + + +So can someone familiar with the project have a bit of a think about it +and maybe see if they can fix it properly in a future proof way? + +><i> BTW, you should not call me "Rindolf" outside IRC. My name is Shlomi. +</I> +Provided it doesn't offend you too much, most of us tend to chop and +change between real names and IRC nicks even on mailing lists. I'll +quite often refer to ennael, tmb, blino or tv etc. In some cases it's +because I can't remember the exact spelling of names and sometimes it's +pure laziness! While I'll try to remember your preference I hope you +don't take active office at it (otherwise it's a particularly bad choice +of IRC nicks :p). + +FWIW I still get surprised when people call me "Col" rather than "Colin" +even tho' that's how I sign pretty much all my emails - same deal there +I suppose :) + +Col(in)[g] + +:<i>p +</I> +-- + +Colin Guthrie +colin(at)mageia.org +<A HREF="http://colin.guthr.ie/">http://colin.guthr.ie/</A> + +Day Job: + Tribalogic Limited <A HREF="http://www.tribalogic.net/">http://www.tribalogic.net/</A> +Open Source: + Mageia Contributor <A HREF="http://www.mageia.org/">http://www.mageia.org/</A> + PulseAudio Hacker <A HREF="http://www.pulseaudio.org/">http://www.pulseaudio.org/</A> + Trac Hacker <A HREF="http://trac.edgewall.org/">http://trac.edgewall.org/</A> +</PRE> + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="017854.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kdelibs4-4.9.0-2.mga3 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="017882.html">[Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release kdelibs4-4.9.0-2.mga3 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#17877">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#17877">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#17877">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#17877">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |