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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Thierry Vignaud at 29/04/12 14:04 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> On 29 April 2012 14:26, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> According to your detailed changelog in the previous commit,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I actually doubt this is for drakxservices.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> If it's about the &quot;first boot&quot;, then this should have been logged in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> the installer NEWS
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Hmmm, if you say so. I just figured that anything that runs when stage1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> and stage2 are not involved is not anything to do with the &quot;installer&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Conceptually, I can see how first boot could be considered part of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;install&quot; process, so feel free to correct as you see fit seeing as this
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> somewhat subjective distinction is not something I have any real desire
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> to master or argue over :) I'll just try and guess better next time :p
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well it was obvious that it cannot be about drakxservices since
+</I>&gt;<i> the context was &quot;first boot&quot; and drakxservices isn't in the game at this
+</I>&gt;<i> stage.
+</I>&gt;<i> I though you was speaking about services set up by the installer
+</I>&gt;<i> for the first boot.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But now, with the actual bug report, I see it was affecting the harddrake
+</I>&gt;<i> service.
+</I>
+At least I try to be wrong in interesting ways :D
+
+&gt;<i> So it's in the right NEWS file but the description is wrong, it should
+</I>&gt;<i> speak about service_harddrake then since drakxservice hasn't
+</I>&gt;<i> the same timeout as harddrake and it's the later that has the issue
+</I>&gt;<i> not the former.
+</I>
+Yup, that makes more sense. I guess I was just using drakxservices as a
+catchall term... my bad.
+
+&gt;<i> In that case, the $::isStandalone won't be enought as it will be set
+</I>&gt;<i> for both harddrake service &amp; drakxservices.
+</I>&gt;<i> We could set another global variable in harddrake ($::booting ?)
+</I>&gt;<i> and test for it in services.pm.
+</I>&gt;<i> WDYT?
+</I>
+Possibly, but I'm not sure it actually matters right now. In the GUI
+version I think we actually do the start/stop in a weird way anyway via
+/sbin/service and backtick execution[1] rather than this helper
+function. That should really be fixed, but when I looked at this and
+tried to change it, it had a bigger impact on how the GUI works (as it
+grabs the output and displays it and systemct restart doesn't have much
+in the way of interesting output to show here). I was not in the mood to
+rework GUIs when doing the systemd stuff, so hopefully this will annoy
+someone enough in the future and get fixed then. For now I don't see
+this as critical.
+
+Col
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+1.
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/drakx/trunk/perl-install/services.pm?view=markup#l275">http://svnweb.mageia.org/soft/drakx/trunk/perl-install/services.pm?view=markup#l275</A>
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+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
+colin(at)mageia.org
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