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+ <B>Wolfgang Bornath</B>
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+ <I>Thu Apr 12 19:14:26 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>2012/4/12 John Balcaen &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mikala at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Le 12 avr. 2012 06:38, &quot;Wolfgang Bornath&quot; &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; a &#233;crit&#160;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [...]
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+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I am strictly opposed to include documentation in a software package,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in general, not only in the case at hand. Although I spent much time
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> for voluntary translation work, I still think it is up to the user if
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> he wants/needs the documentation. A prominent example which matches my
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> POV is The Gimp.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Reality is that in non-technical issues people in charge decide on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> basis of their opinion. That's the normal way and the rest has to live
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> with it. I have no problem with that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You should here open a bug report on kde bugzilla then to get attention &amp;
+</I>&gt;<i> remove documentation from every kde tarball/project (which also means to
+</I>&gt;<i> deal with the F1 shortcut &amp; have a dynamic help menu)
+</I>
+I don't open bug reports on something I know is a wanted feature by
+the developpers. Wastes my time and the time of the bug squad.
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+&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; For the record luc also fix the installation of wrong handbooks on the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; DVD
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; install ( only the suggests one should be installed with the correct
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; app) &amp;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; I'll try to fix the last remaining bug pointed by anssi where a handbook
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt; could stay available when the related app is removed.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If non-installation of handbooks is not possible then at least make it
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> possible to *uninstall* handbooks without having to use 'rpm --nodeps'
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> on each and every one.
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't remember having a package requiring his handbook at all since I used
+</I>&gt;<i> suggests here especially to fix the live cd problem I pointed earlier.
+</I>&gt;<i> The idea is to ensure that you'll get kcal handbook removed when kcal
+</I>&gt;<i> package is removed.
+</I>
+As I wrote:
+1. At system installation by the installer I can not exclude the
+handbook from installation when I mark the application for
+installation in the individual package selection (which would be my
+choice but is rejected). There is no &quot;--no-suggests&quot; option in the
+installer.
+2. So after system installation I want at least be able to uninstall
+the handbooks while keeping the applications.
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+wobo
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