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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Wolfgang Bornath at 07/04/12 08:50 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> 2012/4/7 Jose Jorge &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">lists.jjorge at free.fr</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Le 06/04/2012 22:53, Colin Guthrie a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Couldn't agree more. I'd say we can happily provide a tool to configure
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> autologin, but if that is configured, it basically just sets the DM to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> gdm, and lets' it do the autologin.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> The fact that gdm is used should be mostly hidden from users.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> From what I've seen, gdm seems to be the best implementation of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> whole pam and authentication stuff, so this would be my personal
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> favourite.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Col
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please note that autologin is lightweight and fast, so I use it for very old
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> systems, where even the 30Mb of RAM eaten by gdm count.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> But I just can agree that if no one has time to fix it, we can drop it. I'll
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> be away from computers for 15 days ...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Does GDM provide change of desktop as KDM does?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> My scenario: I have KDE and Gnome and Xfce installed. For system start
+</I>&gt;<i> I have autologin set to start KDE.
+</I>
+I'm guessing you've configured this inside KDE tools rather than inside
+the drak* tools? You'll see why I presume that below:
+
+&gt;<i> But when I am in a KDE session I
+</I>&gt;<i> sometimes logout and use the upcoming KDM to start a Gnome or Xfce
+</I>&gt;<i> session or even a session on a vt.
+</I>
+If you use the autologin package, if you logout, you log back in again
+straight away (it's a hook inside prefdm which starts the display
+manager and it simply runs autologin if it's configured!)
+
+Now I'd be tempted to make this a &quot;one time operation&quot; e.g. if autologin
+works and exits, then we should write a flag somewhere to say &quot;don't
+autologin again&quot; i.e. make it only work once.
+
+This would solve this problem.
+
+&gt;<i> Does this work with GDM as well? If so I'm all in.
+</I>
+Yeah, but keep in mind, we wouldn't be forcing users to use gdm all the
+time anyway. What I'd propose (and this is for mga3 remember), is that
+if autologin was configured, we'd simply make gdm kick in and process
+that autologin.
+
+If autologin is not configured, or the user has already logged in and
+has now logged out, we would just dump you to your chosen DM (i.e. KDM).
+
+So we'd only be using GDM as a tool here, not really for it's GUI
+specifically. That said, we may have to ensure that when we use gdm in
+this way that it exits after the user session rather than reverting back
+to it's login screen, allowing the prefdm process to be automatically
+restarted and thus giving you your chosen DM.
+
+Anyway, this can be discussed in more depth after mga2 is out the door :)
+
+Col
+
+
+--
+
+Colin Guthrie
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