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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] regarding tainted progress</H1>
+ <B>Maarten Vanraes</B>
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+ <I>Sun May 29 16:58:53 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Op zondag 29 mei 2011 14:07:59 schreef Michael Scherer:
+&gt;<i> Le dimanche 29 mai 2011 &#224; 12:50 +0200, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Op zondag 29 mei 2011 12:05:26 schreef Michael Scherer:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Le dimanche 29 mai 2011 &#224; 11:52 +0200, Maarten Vanraes a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; I've spoken with spturtle about the tainted packages rebuild of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; existing packages (ffmpeg, mplayer,...)
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; He mentions he did local builds of those, and is waiting on a BS
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; &gt; change?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Everything is on the bug report
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338">https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338</A> ( that you likely could not
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; miss )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I suppose i should've put the link in my email...
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; Personally, I think this can be fixed after with updates ( ie push
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; updated rpms with support for specific codecs after the release is out
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; ) so this should not be release critical.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I kind of disagree with you here on 2 points:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - I estimate(wild guess) that if there is even 4hours between release
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; these packages appearing, that you're already gonna have at least one
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; person complaining about it
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> And so ? I think that I clearly articulated my point about complain in
+</I>&gt;<i> the past, something about &quot;patch or you do not exist&quot;, some ruthless
+</I>&gt;<i> motto geared toward efficiency.
+</I>
+i guess i'm not that ruthless
+
+&gt;<i> More precisely, how many people would complain if the release do not
+</I>&gt;<i> appear in time, after having worked so hard to meet the deadline ?
+</I>
+you have a point there, also people always complain
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; - If you say, after release is fine; then it'll likely take more than a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; week
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; after release to have those packages on the mirrors, because at that
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; point people will just want to &quot;fix&quot; the BS the correct way...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Technically, even before, it should be the right way. We had enough
+</I>&gt;<i> issues with stuff &quot;that will be fixed later&quot; on Mandriva side that I
+</I>&gt;<i> think we learned the lesson, like &quot;we will clean the buildsystem later&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ( so it was running forked version of youri, with no spec on how it
+</I>&gt;<i> work, with script auto correcting mirrors silently, etc )
+</I>
+There's no way i can not agree with you on this.
+
+Except, i thought this was decided...
+
+In any case, spturtle seems to have everything ready and is waiting for
+&quot;something&quot; or perhaps some way to put it there?
+
+I only sent this email as reminder because spturtle asked me to do so...
+</PRE>
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