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It always says no +</I>>><i> to something. Implying that this would "restrict freedoms of users" +</I>>><i> would be laughable at best, offensive at worst, especially since this +</I>>><i> is an open source project. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> You seem to be confusing different concepts here, just because a project is +</I>><i> based on open source software that doesn't automatically guarantee that the +</I>><i> community based on it is a community that values freedom. +</I> +Re-read our project docs, then (announcement, values, code of conduct). + +And understand that it's not about the freedom of getting all that you +want without consideration for what it is, who makes it, and when and +how. + +><i> My concerns here are exactly because I'm getting the feeling that freedom +</I>><i> is being unnecessarily restricted in Mageia. +</I> +My feeling here is that, even before the technical issues at hand, +your attitude (or at least how it is perceived) is very much the cause +of the crispation. + +You seem to take this whole project as if it was a given to you. When +people object to you based on their experience, you understand that as +an unappropriate preference and don't even seem to listen to what is +proposed. When things appear to you not as you expected them, you look +like ready to dismiss the goodwill of the same people that make this +whole project possible every single day. + +And that taints a lot the points you're trying to make, whatever these +are. Collaboration is not only about facts, desires, opinions. If you +are not able to go along well within the packaging team, only in +discussion, it's unfortunately possible that you won't like it; others +won't like it either. Nothing good will come out of this. + +>><i> Please open a bug for that if you think it's worth discussing it +</I>>><i> again. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Is that now the procedure for this? +</I> +For opening a bug? <A HREF="https://bugs.mageia.org/">https://bugs.mageia.org/</A> => New, and explain the thing. + +><i> I would also appreciate it, if you could clarify the procedures with +</I>><i> regards to the council I asked about in my last reply to you. +</I> +The board/council lists are not setup yet, unfortunately. + +However you may have seen on -discuss that a preparation document is +available for next council meeting; although this coming meeting is +already quite full, you may append your point for the next one. + +And that doesn't prevent from asking clearly here or on discuss that +you want the topic to be reviewed by the council. But even there, you +being an apprentice, I would suggest you: + - first, review this with your mentor; + - second, review this again with the packaging team; + - third, push this to the council if needed (where it will need to +have both sides expose their points, for the record and the decision). + +Cool. And good luck. + +Romain +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="003671.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="003676.html">[Mageia-dev] qt3-devel needed for Trinitydesktop (KDE 3.5 successor) +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#3675">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#3675">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#3675">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#3675">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |