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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer</H1>
+ <B>David W. Hodgins</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer">davidwhodgins at gmail.com
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+ <I>Fri Mar 25 08:47:37 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Fri, 25 Mar 2011 03:17:27 -0400, Buchan Milne &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net</A>&gt; wrote:
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+&gt;<i> But, that is *your* view.
+</I>&gt;<i> IMHO, some of these questions should be posed to the community.
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+My opinion, is that the there must be an iso that includes
+everything needed to install a basic system, and get updates
+or other software.
+
+If the network will not be accessible without jumping through
+hoops, then the distro will devolve into one only used by
+people willing to jump through those hoops. I doubt most
+people are willing.
+
+If the network cannot be accessed after (or while) installing
+the system, without jumping through hoops, who is going to
+bother trying to use it?
+
+Put the non-free (should be renamed to closed-source, or
+something more explanatory) in a separate directory on the iso,
+and give the installer the choice of using it.
+
+Whether or not the default should be to include it or not is
+open for discussion. In My opinion, it should be an opt-out,
+not an opt-in.
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+Regards, Dave Hodgins
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