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+Andr&#233;, I agree with you, we never should have had the separation of
+'tainted' (and I argued that in the early days too) but that decision was
+made a long time ago and is not up for debate here.
+With regards to open source but not FOSS, there are many types of licenses
+that source code can come with, not all of them meet the defintion of the
+free software foundation: <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html">http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html</A>
+Those that don't meet that definition are considered non free, this is just
+a convention commonly used in the Linux world, personally I'm not too
+attached to this convention, but again this is not up for debate here.
+I hope this clarifies things for you! :)
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If the mix is legit, then we just move to non-free, and warn mirrors
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that both non-free and tainted can cause troubles.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Why do you think that would be a better solution than putting it into
+</I>&gt;<i> tainted (where it belongs for dependencies) and marking tainted as being
+</I>&gt;<i> for ALL tainted packages (regardless if free or nonfree)?
+</I>&gt;<i> Putting tainted packages in nonfree just causes more confusion IMHO.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If this is non-free, it goes to non-free, that's all. And we link
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> nothing to it outside of non-free.
+</I>
+Or make the links from outside optional.
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Which would mean other packages like gstreamer will have reduced
+</I>&gt;<i> capability.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'm starting to wonder if my hope of helping towards making Mageia an even
+</I>&gt;<i> better multimedia (audio/video) distro than Mandriva is, is unrealistic.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I> From my point of view, not unrealistic at all, Just don't be dogmatic
+about calling software potentially subject to patent claims &quot;tainted&quot; --
+until directly threatened.
+And allow &quot;core&quot; packages to _optionally_ use packages in &quot;non-free&quot;.
+(That is, avoid &quot;requires&quot;.)
+
+What would be useful, is the capability, when installing a &quot;core&quot;
+package, to optionally install a related package from a non-core
+repository, even if the non-core repository in question isn't activated.
+With that functionality, at least you won't be restricted by the
+repositories.
+I don't know how much needs to be done to acquire this functionality,
+but it has already been discussed on Mageia lists.
+
+Your goals might be more work than you originally thought, but it's doable.
+Just don't give up :)
+
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+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Andr&#233;, I agree with you, we never should have had the separation of
+</I>&gt;<i> 'tainted' (and I argued that in the early days too) but that decision was
+</I>&gt;<i> made a long time ago and is not up for debate here.
+</I>&gt;<i> With regards to open source but not FOSS, there are many types of licenses
+</I>&gt;<i> that source code can come with, not all of them meet the defintion of the
+</I>&gt;<i> free software foundation: <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html">http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> Those that don't meet that definition are considered non free, this is just
+</I>&gt;<i> a convention commonly used in the Linux world, personally I'm not too
+</I>&gt;<i> attached to this convention, but again this is not up for debate here.
+</I>&gt;<i> I hope this clarifies things for you! :)
+</I>
+Don't forget that licenses accepted by OSI are acceptable as well.
+If you like, give me the designated license and I'll check it out for you.
+
+The Mageia license policy, as I understand it, is a little more open
+than that of Mandriva, as well as that of Fedora. (I stand to be
+corrected, of course :) )
+
+Since you aren't enthusiastic about designating packages as &quot;tainted&quot;,
+why not put them in &quot;core&quot; or &quot;non-free&quot; until directly threatened ?
+As far as I know, there is no clear policy of when they should go in the
+other repository, and even founding members have suggested this approach.
+Note also that putting a package in &quot;tainted&quot; means that it need not be
+carried by all official mirrors.
+
+(By the way, my objection is essentially to the name, which implies that
+there is something inherently wrong with the packages -- not the case if
+one doesn't accept software patents, and the software works.)
+(Here in Canada software patents don't exist.)
+
+Note that there has been general discussion of improvements to the
+installer which will allow, when installing core packages, to optionally
+install related/suggested non-core packages from other repositories at
+the same time -- even if these other repositories aren't activated.
+(Something I would like to contribute to myself.)
+
+These improvements should help your goals a lot.
+So don't give up :)
+
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+<PRE>andre999 a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Tux99 a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Andr&#233;, I agree with you, we never should have had the separation of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'tainted' (and I argued that in the early days too) but that decision was
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> made a long time ago and is not up for debate here.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> With regards to open source but not FOSS, there are many types of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> licenses
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that source code can come with, not all of them meet the defintion of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> free software foundation: <A HREF="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html">http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Those that don't meet that definition are considered non free, this is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> a convention commonly used in the Linux world, personally I'm not too
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> attached to this convention, but again this is not up for debate here.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I hope this clarifies things for you! :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Don't forget that licenses accepted by OSI are acceptable as well.
+</I>&gt;<i> If you like, give me the designated license and I'll check it out for you.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> The Mageia license policy, as I understand it, is a little more open
+</I>&gt;<i> than that of Mandriva, as well as that of Fedora. (I stand to be
+</I>&gt;<i> corrected, of course :) )
+</I>...
+
+Take a look at our licensing policy page, basically a copy of Mandriva
+policy at the moment :
+&lt;<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=licensing_policy</A>&gt;
+It gives a very inclusive definition of acceptable licenses for &quot;core&quot;.
+Even special licenses which are similar to FSF or OSI approved licenses
+are acceptable.
+
+:<i>)
+</I>--
+Andr&#233;
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+<PRE>Thierry Vignaud a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 15 March 2011 17:35, Michael Scherer&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I think he is using rpm directly, not urpmi...
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Do we really care about fixing all the corner cases in our installation
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> of a chroot without urpmi?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What if people want to use something else than urpmi ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ( like smartpm, etc ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well:
+</I>&gt;<i> 1) In a perfect world, every rpm manager would work the same way
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) smart is used on a installed system, with a populated /dev
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) we cannot workaround every possible faillure of every possible
+</I>&gt;<i> package manager IMHO...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'd say we should focus on the ones appearing with urpmi, or the one we
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> spot in DrakX logs.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We could too, but so far, no one gave use lits of errors to fix for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that :)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> because we're already perfect :-)
+</I>
+and don't let anyone say otherwise :)
+
+--
+Andr&#233;
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+&gt;<i> Updated status:
+</I>&gt;<i> =============
+</I>&gt;<i> All major video drivers (but fglrx[0]) seems to works fine:
+</I>&gt;<i> - vesa,
+</I>&gt;<i> - ATI/AMD,
+</I>&gt;<i> - Intel,
+</I>&gt;<i> - Nvidia (nv/nouveau/nvidia)
+</I>&gt;<i> - fb[1]
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Less important drivers that works: virtualbox, sis
+</I>&gt;<i> Most major input drivers seems to works fine: evdev,synaptics, wacom.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We need testing for:
+</I>&gt;<i> - video: vmware.
+</I>&gt;<i> - input: joystick[2],
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I can resurect an old PCI 12+ years old matrox card in order to test mga
+</I>&gt;<i> but I don't think it's still relevant.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> [0] fglrx support will land after ati officialize its support for ubuntu
+</I>&gt;<i> [1] used by the installer
+</I>&gt;<i> [1] not sure we'd testers back at mdv anyway.
+</I>
+I guess we can now move xserver-1.10 from updates_testing/ to release/ now that
+alpha2 has been released.
+WDYT?
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 14 March 2011 08:50, Thierry Vignaud &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">thierry.vignaud at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Updated status:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> =============
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> All major video drivers (but fglrx[0]) seems to works fine:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - vesa,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - ATI/AMD,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Intel,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - Nvidia (nv/nouveau/nvidia)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - fb[1]
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Less important drivers that works: virtualbox, sis
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Most major input drivers seems to works fine: evdev,synaptics, wacom.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We need testing for:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - video: vmware.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> - input: joystick[2],
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I can resurect an old PCI 12+ years old matrox card in order to test mga
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but I don't think it's still relevant.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [0] fglrx support will land after ati officialize its support for ubuntu
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [1] used by the installer
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [1] not sure we'd testers back at mdv anyway.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I guess we can now move xserver-1.10 from updates_testing/ to release/ now that
+</I>&gt;<i> alpha2 has been released.
+</I>&gt;<i> WDYT?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+yes i think this is the perfect time for this. this will let one month
+on core/release before beta1
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+<PRE>On 16 March 2011 11:51, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Revision 675 Author blino Date 2011-03-16 11:51:10 +0100 (Wed, 16 Mar 2011)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> prefer classical sysvinit instead of systemd
+</I>
+Since you already uploaded a fixed meta-task, why comiting this?
+
+&gt;<i> Modified: images-config/draklive/trunk/config/auto_inst.cfg.pl
+</I>&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;<i> --- images-config/draklive/trunk/config/auto_inst.cfg.pl 2011-03-16 08:22:46 UTC (rev 674)
+</I>&gt;<i> +++ images-config/draklive/trunk/config/auto_inst.cfg.pl 2011-03-16 10:51:10 UTC (rev 675)
+</I>&gt;<i> @@ -151,6 +151,9 @@
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # (blino) temporary, it requires plasma-krunner-powerdevil which is broken and pulls dev packages
+</I>&gt;<i> 'plasma-applet-battery', 'plasma-krunner-powerdevil',
+</I>&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;<i> + # (blino) prefer classical sysvinit instead of systemd (FIXME: move in /etc/urpmi/prefer.vendor.list)
+</I>&gt;<i> + 'systemd-sysvinit',
+</I>&gt;<i> ],
+</I>&gt;<i> 'default_packages' =&gt; [
+</I>&gt;<i> if_($has_kde4, &quot;$distro_config-kde4-config&quot;),
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+&gt;<i> On 16 March 2011 11:51, &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at mageia.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Revision 675 Author blino Date 2011-03-16 11:51:10 +0100 (Wed, 16 Mar 2011)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Log Message
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> prefer classical sysvinit instead of systemd
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since you already uploaded a fixed meta-task, why comiting this?
+</I>
+This was before I committed a fixed meta-task.
+And a new installer with the updated prefer.vendor.list isn't available
+yet, anyway.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Modified: images-config/draklive/trunk/config/auto_inst.cfg.pl
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ===================================================================
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> --- images-config/draklive/trunk/config/auto_inst.cfg.pl 2011-03-16 08:22:46 UTC (rev 674)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +++ images-config/draklive/trunk/config/auto_inst.cfg.pl 2011-03-16 10:51:10 UTC (rev 675)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> @@ -151,6 +151,9 @@
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> # (blino) temporary, it requires plasma-krunner-powerdevil which is broken and pulls dev packages
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'plasma-applet-battery', 'plasma-krunner-powerdevil',
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> +
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + # (blino) prefer classical sysvinit instead of systemd (FIXME: move in /etc/urpmi/prefer.vendor.list)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> + 'systemd-sysvinit',
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> ],
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 'default_packages' =&gt; [
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if_($has_kde4, &quot;$distro_config-kde4-config&quot;),
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+--
+Olivier Blin - blino
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+ <B>Thierry Vignaud</B>
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+ <I>Wed Mar 16 15:53:55 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On 15 March 2011 19:06, Michael Scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> We did have some troubles with loops at building time when we
+</I>&gt;<i> bootstrapped the distribution, and we clearly wanted to remove them as
+</I>&gt;<i> much as possible.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> A loop at runtime is potentially the sign of a loop at build time too.
+</I>&gt;<i> So we should try to avoid them IMHO.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> In the case of dbus, yes, the requires are correct, but the ordering
+</I>&gt;<i> seems wrong during the test. So either there is a bug in what ever jbj
+</I>&gt;<i> is running, or we do use Requires(post) in a wrong way, or that's a
+</I>&gt;<i> change somewhere. In any case, there is still the others problem to look
+</I>&gt;<i> at :)
+</I>
+Sure, it would be best.
+But we cannot handle everything at every level.
+There're many hidden dependancy that will broke.
+
+Eg: if you do a minimal install with just basesystem, then install some
+random GUI package, you'll got caught in strange bugs due to having
+no font, ...
+Which is usually installed by task-x11 which got installed though rpmsrate.
+We won't make every GUI package depends on task-x11 however.
+
+And there'll be a lot of other hidden dependancies and the like.
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+ <B>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n</B>
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+ <I>Wed Mar 16 23:30:59 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On a old computer (Athlon 64, printer epson c82, scanner epson 1650
+photo, usb wireless keyboard and mouse, ethernet network)
+
+Installation stage (choice kde) :
+All good but :
+
+-Boot loader : no choice, I had to volontary select &quot;configure&quot; in the
+last summary page . I hope final release will give the choice between
+MBR and partition.
+
+-updating the source : ok
+-updating packages : no because of hald
+
+suggestion : Do you want to copy DVD source on HD ? (something like
+that)
+
+First boot
+perfect.
+
+Updating :
+packages are updated but, after, auto-orphans propose to remove 192
+packages.
+
+Printer epson stylus C82
+is not installed. I use drakconf : errors :
+
+drakconf
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">root at localhost</A> ~]# &quot;/usr/sbin/mdkapplet-config&quot; is not executable
+[Updates Configuration] at /usr/sbin/drakconf.real line 823.
+&quot;/usr/sbin/mdkapplet-add-media-helper&quot; is not executable [Extended
+Maintenance] at /usr/sbin/drakconf.real line 823.
+&quot;/usr/bin/drakmenustyle&quot; is not executable [Menus]
+at /usr/sbin/drakconf.real line 823.
+&quot;/usr/sbin/drakbackup&quot; is not executable [Backups]
+at /usr/sbin/drakconf.real line 823.
+&quot;/usr/sbin/drakvirt&quot; is not executable [Virtualization]
+at /usr/sbin/drakconf.real line 823.
+&quot;/usr/sbin/tomoyo-gui&quot; is not executable [Tomoyo Policy]
+at /usr/sbin/drakconf.real line 823.
+&quot;/usr/sbin/drakguard&quot; is not executable [Parental Controls]
+at /usr/sbin/drakconf.real line 823.
+task-printing-server-2010-2.mga1
+task-printing-hp-2010-2.mga1
+Traceback (most recent call last):
+ File &quot;/usr/share/system-config-printer/asyncipp.py&quot;, line 197, in
+send_reply
+ handler (self._conn, result)
+ File &quot;/usr/share/system-config-printer/asyncconn.py&quot;, line 93, in
+reply_handler
+ self._reply_handler (self, self._reply_data, *args)
+ File &quot;/usr/share/system-config-printer/asyncconn.py&quot;, line 204, in
+_subst_reply_handler
+ reply_handler (self, *args)
+ File &quot;/usr/lib/python2.7/site-packages/cupshelpers/cupshelpers.py&quot;,
+line 602, in _reply_handler
+ self._client_reply_handler (connection, devices)
+ File &quot;/usr/share/system-config-printer/newprinter.py&quot;, line 1379, in
+&lt;lambda&gt;
+ current_uri))
+ File &quot;/usr/share/system-config-printer/newprinter.py&quot;, line 1409, in
+local_devices_reply
+ self.add_devices (result, current_uri)
+ File &quot;/usr/share/system-config-printer/newprinter.py&quot;, line 1808, in
+add_devices
+ physdev = model.get_value (iter, 1)
+TypeError: iter must be a GtkTreeIter
+
+So no printer.
+
+
+Scanner epson 1650 photo
+Like in Mandriva : I have to use manual choice, then it runs
+
+Traduction (in drakconf-&gt; printer) is incomplete.
+
+This is my first feeling.
+
+
+--
+A.Sala&#252;n
+Ne l&#226;chez rien.
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+ <h1>16 March 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Mar 16 00:24:52 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Mar 16 23:30:59 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 11<p>
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+<LI><A HREF="003349.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?
+</A><A NAME="3349">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Tux99
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+<LI><A HREF="003351.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?
+</A><A NAME="3351">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
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+<!--2 01300231492-01300234865-01300240525- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003352.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?
+</A><A NAME="3352">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
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+<LI><A HREF="003350.html">[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?
+</A><A NAME="3350">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
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+<LI><A HREF="003353.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix
+</A><A NAME="3353">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>andre999
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+<LI><A HREF="003354.html">[Mageia-dev] RFT: x11-server 1.10
+</A><A NAME="3354">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
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+<!--1 01300259622-01300261328- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003355.html">[Mageia-dev] RFT: x11-server 1.10
+</A><A NAME="3355">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dexter Morgan
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+<!--0 01300278473- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003356.html">[Mageia-dev] [675] prefer classical sysvinit instead of systemd
+</A><A NAME="3356">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
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+<!--1 01300278473-01300279350- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003357.html">[Mageia-dev] [675] prefer classical sysvinit instead of systemd
+</A><A NAME="3357">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
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+<!--0 01300287235- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003358.html">[Mageia-dev] Packaging errors to fix
+</A><A NAME="3358">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01300314659- -->
+<LI><A HREF="003359.html">[Mageia-dev] Alpha 2 fresh install dvd i586
+</A><A NAME="3359">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Andr&#233; Sala&#252;n
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+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Mar 16 23:30:59 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Mar 16 23:31:13 CET 2011</i>
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