summaryrefslogtreecommitdiffstats
path: root/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201
diff options
context:
space:
mode:
Diffstat (limited to 'zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201')
-rw-r--r--zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002405.html85
-rw-r--r--zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002406.html97
-rw-r--r--zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002407.html78
-rw-r--r--zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002408.html97
-rw-r--r--zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002409.html100
-rw-r--r--zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002410.html115
-rw-r--r--zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002411.html100
-rw-r--r--zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002412.html111
-rw-r--r--zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002413.html195
-rw-r--r--zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/author.html92
-rw-r--r--zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/date.html92
l---------zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/index.html1
-rw-r--r--zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/subject.html92
-rw-r--r--zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/thread.html109
14 files changed, 1364 insertions, 0 deletions
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002405.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002405.html
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..3311a8554
--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002405.html
@@ -0,0 +1,85 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
+<HTML>
+ <HEAD>
+ <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+ </TITLE>
+ <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" >
+ <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20PGP%20keys%20and%20package%20signing&In-Reply-To=%3C1296515736.12892.143.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E">
+ <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow">
+ <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+
+ <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002406.html">
+ </HEAD>
+ <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing</H1>
+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20PGP%20keys%20and%20package%20signing&In-Reply-To=%3C1296515736.12892.143.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing">misc at zarb.org
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Tue Feb 1 00:15:36 CET 2011</I>
+ <P><UL>
+
+ <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002406.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A></li>
+ <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
+ <a href="date.html#2405">[ date ]</a>
+ <a href="thread.html#2405">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#2405">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#2405">[ author ]</a>
+ </LI>
+ </UL>
+ <HR>
+<!--beginarticle-->
+<PRE>Le lundi 31 janvier 2011 &#224; 21:49 +0000, Dick Gevers a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:18:25 +0100, Michael Scherer wrote about Re:
+</I>&gt;<i> [Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;The problem is not leaking the key, it is about cryptographic attacks
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;about older keys.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;If in 10 years, there is some technology that allows people to get our
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;private key by bruteforce on the public one
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> You can never ever obtain the private key from the public one, that is
+</I>&gt;<i> impossible. It can only be compromised if someone looses the private key
+</I>&gt;<i> plus the password is cracked.
+</I>
+Some secure systems have been seen compromised ( like
+<A HREF="http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/rogue-ca/,">http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/rogue-ca/,</A> who explain how the whole SSL
+business was compromised 2 years ago, or see the GSM being cracked at
+this year 27C3 ).
+
+And Debian also got ride of older vulnerable gpg keys ( see
+<A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/04/msg00018.html">http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/04/msg00018.html</A> and
+<A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/09/msg00003.html">http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/09/msg00003.html</A> ),
+so I would not be so optimistic about the &quot;never&quot;.
+
+Technically, MD5 should not have been reversible, but see how easy it is
+using a rainbow table. Granted, that's a 20 year protocol, but that's
+still widely used in lots of software.
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
+</PRE>
+
+
+<!--endarticle-->
+ <HR>
+ <P><UL>
+ <!--threads-->
+
+ <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002406.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A></li>
+ <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
+ <a href="date.html#2405">[ date ]</a>
+ <a href="thread.html#2405">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#2405">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#2405">[ author ]</a>
+ </LI>
+ </UL>
+
+<hr>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev
+mailing list</a><br>
+</body></html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002406.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002406.html
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..21ee28454
--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002406.html
@@ -0,0 +1,97 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
+<HTML>
+ <HEAD>
+ <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+ </TITLE>
+ <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" >
+ <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20PGP%20keys%20and%20package%20signing&In-Reply-To=%3C201102010035.p110Zaus072908%40smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl%3E">
+ <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow">
+ <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+ <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002405.html">
+ <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002408.html">
+ </HEAD>
+ <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing</H1>
+ <B>Dick Gevers</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20PGP%20keys%20and%20package%20signing&In-Reply-To=%3C201102010035.p110Zaus072908%40smtp-vbr11.xs4all.nl%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing">dvgevers at xs4all.nl
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Tue Feb 1 01:35:36 CET 2011</I>
+ <P><UL>
+ <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002405.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A></li>
+ <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002408.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A></li>
+ <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
+ <a href="date.html#2406">[ date ]</a>
+ <a href="thread.html#2406">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#2406">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#2406">[ author ]</a>
+ </LI>
+ </UL>
+ <HR>
+<!--beginarticle-->
+<PRE>On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 00:15:36 +0100, Michael Scherer wrote about Re:
+[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing:
+
+&gt;<i>Le lundi 31 janvier 2011 &#224; 21:49 +0000, Dick Gevers a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:18:25 +0100, Michael Scherer wrote about Re:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;The problem is not leaking the key, it is about cryptographic attacks
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;about older keys.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;If in 10 years, there is some technology that allows people to get our
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;private key by bruteforce on the public one
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> You can never ever obtain the private key from the public one, that is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> impossible. It can only be compromised if someone looses the private key
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> plus the password is cracked.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Some secure systems have been seen compromised ( like
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/rogue-ca/,">http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/rogue-ca/,</A> who explain how the whole SSL
+</I>&gt;<i>business was compromised 2 years ago, or see the GSM being cracked at
+</I>&gt;<i>this year 27C3 ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>And Debian also got ride of older vulnerable gpg keys ( see
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/04/msg00018.html">http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/04/msg00018.html</A> and
+</I>&gt;<i><A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/09/msg00003.html">http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/09/msg00003.html</A> ),
+</I>&gt;<i>so I would not be so optimistic about the &quot;never&quot;.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>Technically, MD5 should not have been reversible, but see how easy it is
+</I>&gt;<i>using a rainbow table. Granted, that's a 20 year protocol, but that's
+</I>&gt;<i>still widely used in lots of software.
+</I>
+Sorry, but I am not convinced: the gpg key we are talking about consists of
+2 parts: the private key is separate from the public key, or signing key.
+The signing key is a separate or subkey and does not contain any part of the
+private key. So you can throw any amount of computing power at it, but
+there is nothing inside the public key that will enable the rebuilding of
+the private key from it.
+
+Ciao,
+=Dick Gevers=
+</PRE>
+
+
+
+<!--endarticle-->
+ <HR>
+ <P><UL>
+ <!--threads-->
+ <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002405.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A></li>
+ <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002408.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A></li>
+ <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
+ <a href="date.html#2406">[ date ]</a>
+ <a href="thread.html#2406">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#2406">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#2406">[ author ]</a>
+ </LI>
+ </UL>
+
+<hr>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev
+mailing list</a><br>
+</body></html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002407.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002407.html
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..b1803b526
--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002407.html
@@ -0,0 +1,78 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
+<HTML>
+ <HEAD>
+ <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Joining the team
+ </TITLE>
+ <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" >
+ <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Joining%20the%20team&In-Reply-To=%3C4f836d13639ee049532c6bd5af233d91%40localhost%3E">
+ <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow">
+ <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+ <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002411.html">
+ <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002409.html">
+ </HEAD>
+ <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Joining the team</H1>
+ <B>mageia at linuxconsole.org</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Joining%20the%20team&In-Reply-To=%3C4f836d13639ee049532c6bd5af233d91%40localhost%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Joining the team">mageia at linuxconsole.org
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Tue Feb 1 10:12:53 CET 2011</I>
+ <P><UL>
+ <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002411.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A></li>
+ <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002409.html">[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie
+</A></li>
+ <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
+ <a href="date.html#2407">[ date ]</a>
+ <a href="thread.html#2407">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#2407">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#2407">[ author ]</a>
+ </LI>
+ </UL>
+ <HR>
+<!--beginarticle-->
+<PRE>Hi,
+
+I am currently the <A HREF="http://linuxconsole.org">http://linuxconsole.org</A> developer, and I am looking
+for a new distro to build the 2.0 release.
+
+Before it, I can help you, if you agree, to build the first &quot;mageia&quot;
+stable release.
+
+What I can do :
+
+- build a toolchain
+- build any software
+- Make a windows installer like I did for my distro :
+<A HREF="http://dibab.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/1.0/install/lcinstall.nsi">http://dibab.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/1.0/install/lcinstall.nsi</A>
+
+See you soon on IRC.
+
+Yann Le Doar&#233;
+
+</PRE>
+
+
+
+
+
+<!--endarticle-->
+ <HR>
+ <P><UL>
+ <!--threads-->
+ <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002411.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A></li>
+ <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002409.html">[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie
+</A></li>
+ <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
+ <a href="date.html#2407">[ date ]</a>
+ <a href="thread.html#2407">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#2407">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#2407">[ author ]</a>
+ </LI>
+ </UL>
+
+<hr>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev
+mailing list</a><br>
+</body></html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002408.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002408.html
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..264e7e803
--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002408.html
@@ -0,0 +1,97 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
+<HTML>
+ <HEAD>
+ <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+ </TITLE>
+ <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" >
+ <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20PGP%20keys%20and%20package%20signing&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DnufoGktW%2BycrwUL4QENS5-0oAF-LoNzwsdzp2%40mail.gmail.com%3E">
+ <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow">
+ <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+ <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002406.html">
+ <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002410.html">
+ </HEAD>
+ <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing</H1>
+ <B>Pascal Terjan</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20PGP%20keys%20and%20package%20signing&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTi%3DnufoGktW%2BycrwUL4QENS5-0oAF-LoNzwsdzp2%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing">pterjan at gmail.com
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Tue Feb 1 11:47:46 CET 2011</I>
+ <P><UL>
+ <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002406.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A></li>
+ <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002410.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A></li>
+ <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
+ <a href="date.html#2408">[ date ]</a>
+ <a href="thread.html#2408">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#2408">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#2408">[ author ]</a>
+ </LI>
+ </UL>
+ <HR>
+<!--beginarticle-->
+<PRE>On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 00:35, Dick Gevers &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dvgevers at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 00:15:36 +0100, Michael Scherer wrote about Re:
+</I>&gt;<i> [Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>Le lundi 31 janvier 2011 &#224; 21:49 +0000, Dick Gevers a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:18:25 +0100, Michael Scherer wrote about Re:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;The problem is not leaking the key, it is about cryptographic attacks
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;about older keys.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;If in 10 years, there is some technology that allows people to get our
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;private key by bruteforce on the public one
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You can never ever obtain the private key from the public one, that is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> impossible. It can only be compromised if someone looses the private key
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> plus the password is cracked.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>Some secure systems have been seen compromised ( like
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i><A HREF="http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/rogue-ca/,">http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/rogue-ca/,</A> who explain how the whole SSL
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>business was compromised 2 years ago, or see the GSM being cracked at
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>this year 27C3 ).
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>And Debian also got ride of older vulnerable gpg keys ( see
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i><A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/04/msg00018.html">http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/04/msg00018.html</A> and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i><A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/09/msg00003.html">http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/09/msg00003.html</A> ),
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>so I would not be so optimistic about the &quot;never&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>Technically, MD5 should not have been reversible, but see how easy it is
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>using a rainbow table. Granted, that's a 20 year protocol, but that's
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>still widely used in lots of software.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Sorry, but I am not convinced: the gpg key we are talking about consists of
+</I>&gt;<i> 2 parts: the private key is separate from the public key, or signing key.
+</I>&gt;<i> The signing key is a separate or subkey and does not contain any part of the
+</I>&gt;<i> private key. So you can throw any amount of computing power at it, but
+</I>&gt;<i> there is nothing inside the public key that will enable the rebuilding of
+</I>&gt;<i> the private key from it.
+</I>
+Encrypt stuff with the public one, try to decrypt it with the 2^4096
+(or whatever) possible private keys.
+</PRE>
+
+
+<!--endarticle-->
+ <HR>
+ <P><UL>
+ <!--threads-->
+ <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002406.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A></li>
+ <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002410.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A></li>
+ <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
+ <a href="date.html#2408">[ date ]</a>
+ <a href="thread.html#2408">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#2408">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#2408">[ author ]</a>
+ </LI>
+ </UL>
+
+<hr>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev
+mailing list</a><br>
+</body></html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002409.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002409.html
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..014c49658
--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002409.html
@@ -0,0 +1,100 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
+<HTML>
+ <HEAD>
+ <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] announcing magpie
+ </TITLE>
+ <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" >
+ <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20announcing%20magpie&In-Reply-To=%3C20110201111748.GG6023%40mongueurs.net%3E">
+ <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow">
+ <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+ <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002407.html">
+ <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002412.html">
+ </HEAD>
+ <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie</H1>
+ <B>Jerome Quelin</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20announcing%20magpie&In-Reply-To=%3C20110201111748.GG6023%40mongueurs.net%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie">jquelin at gmail.com
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Tue Feb 1 12:17:48 CET 2011</I>
+ <P><UL>
+ <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002407.html">[Mageia-dev] Joining the team
+</A></li>
+ <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002412.html">[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie
+</A></li>
+ <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
+ <a href="date.html#2409">[ date ]</a>
+ <a href="thread.html#2409">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#2409">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#2409">[ author ]</a>
+ </LI>
+ </UL>
+ <HR>
+<!--beginarticle-->
+<PRE>hi,
+
+i'm happy to report that magpie 1.110320 is now available.
+
+On 11/01/24 16:42 +0100, Jerome Quelin wrote:
+&gt;<i> in my mdv-&gt;mageia conversion, i promised to gather the various scripts
+</I>&gt;<i> i'm using to maintain the bulk of perl packages and provide them for
+</I>&gt;<i> everyone to use.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> so i'm pleased to announce magpie: MAGeia Perl Integration Easy
+</I>
+magpie now features a new command: checkout (alias co).
+
+it is *not* meant to replace &quot;mgarepo co&quot;, it does in fact use mgarepo
+underneath. so what does this command add?
+
+- the possibility to check out in a given directory
+ $ magpie co -d ~/rpm/cauldron perl
+
+- the fact that it will either check out *or* update the local check-out
+ if it already exists:
+ $ magpie co -d ~/rpm/cauldron perl
+ # check-out if 1st run, update otherwise
+
+- finally, the possibility to dump a shell command to execute to change
+ directory in the fresh check-out:
+
+ # add this in your ~/.bashrc
+ function cco() { eval $(magpie co -d ~/rpm/cauldron -q -s $*); }
+ # then, one can do a fresh checkout/update + cd by issuing:
+ $ cco perl
+
+nothing revolutionary, but it saves some keystrokes here and there.
+
+in the future, i intend to make this command to accept a perl module to
+automatically check-out the matching package:
+ $ magpie co Foo::Bar
+
+
+j&#233;r&#244;me
+--
+<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">jquelin at gmail.com</A>
+</PRE>
+
+
+
+
+<!--endarticle-->
+ <HR>
+ <P><UL>
+ <!--threads-->
+ <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002407.html">[Mageia-dev] Joining the team
+</A></li>
+ <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002412.html">[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie
+</A></li>
+ <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
+ <a href="date.html#2409">[ date ]</a>
+ <a href="thread.html#2409">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#2409">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#2409">[ author ]</a>
+ </LI>
+ </UL>
+
+<hr>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev
+mailing list</a><br>
+</body></html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002410.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002410.html
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..a1be3ebeb
--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002410.html
@@ -0,0 +1,115 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
+<HTML>
+ <HEAD>
+ <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+ </TITLE>
+ <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" >
+ <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20PGP%20keys%20and%20package%20signing&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikbT4XkxhMrb2uhBNMvrqyxmOA3wh_hrVfX%3D-S3%40mail.gmail.com%3E">
+ <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow">
+ <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+ <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002408.html">
+ <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002411.html">
+ </HEAD>
+ <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing</H1>
+ <B>David Sj&#246;lin</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20PGP%20keys%20and%20package%20signing&In-Reply-To=%3CAANLkTikbT4XkxhMrb2uhBNMvrqyxmOA3wh_hrVfX%3D-S3%40mail.gmail.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing">david.sjolin at gmail.com
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Tue Feb 1 12:31:49 CET 2011</I>
+ <P><UL>
+ <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002408.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A></li>
+ <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002411.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A></li>
+ <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
+ <a href="date.html#2410">[ date ]</a>
+ <a href="thread.html#2410">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#2410">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#2410">[ author ]</a>
+ </LI>
+ </UL>
+ <HR>
+<!--beginarticle-->
+<PRE>Hello!
+
+I know this is probably a stupid question, but if you don't ask you
+won't learn so.
+
+What is this signing? I assume we won't encrypt the entire
+distribution? Is it some sort of way of saying that a package is
+&quot;Approved by Mageia&quot; so the package manager can warn about non
+approved packages?
+
+Regards,
+
+David
+
+
+
+On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:47 AM, Pascal Terjan &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pterjan at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 00:35, Dick Gevers &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">dvgevers at xs4all.nl</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 00:15:36 +0100, Michael Scherer wrote about Re:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> [Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>Le lundi 31 janvier 2011 &#224; 21:49 +0000, Dick Gevers a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 17:18:25 +0100, Michael Scherer wrote about Re:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;The problem is not leaking the key, it is about cryptographic attacks
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;about older keys.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;If in 10 years, there is some technology that allows people to get our
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> &gt;private key by bruteforce on the public one
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> You can never ever obtain the private key from the public one, that is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> impossible. It can only be compromised if someone looses the private key
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> plus the password is cracked.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>Some secure systems have been seen compromised ( like
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i><A HREF="http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/rogue-ca/,">http://www.win.tue.nl/hashclash/rogue-ca/,</A> who explain how the whole SSL
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>business was compromised 2 years ago, or see the GSM being cracked at
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>this year 27C3 ).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>And Debian also got ride of older vulnerable gpg keys ( see
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i><A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/04/msg00018.html">http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/04/msg00018.html</A> and
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i><A HREF="http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/09/msg00003.html">http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2010/09/msg00003.html</A> ),
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>so I would not be so optimistic about the &quot;never&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>Technically, MD5 should not have been reversible, but see how easy it is
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>using a rainbow table. Granted, that's a 20 year protocol, but that's
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>still widely used in lots of software.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Sorry, but I am not convinced: the gpg key we are talking about consists of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2 parts: the private key is separate from the public key, or signing key.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> The signing key is a separate or subkey and does not contain any part of the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> private key. So you can throw any amount of computing power at it, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> there is nothing inside the public key that will enable the rebuilding of
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> the private key from it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Encrypt stuff with the public one, try to decrypt it with the 2^4096
+</I>&gt;<i> (or whatever) possible private keys.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I></PRE>
+
+
+<!--endarticle-->
+ <HR>
+ <P><UL>
+ <!--threads-->
+ <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002408.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A></li>
+ <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002411.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A></li>
+ <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
+ <a href="date.html#2410">[ date ]</a>
+ <a href="thread.html#2410">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#2410">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#2410">[ author ]</a>
+ </LI>
+ </UL>
+
+<hr>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev
+mailing list</a><br>
+</body></html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002411.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002411.html
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..86bcd7f77
--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002411.html
@@ -0,0 +1,100 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
+<HTML>
+ <HEAD>
+ <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+ </TITLE>
+ <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" >
+ <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20PGP%20keys%20and%20package%20signing&In-Reply-To=%3C20110201115231.GQ10402%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E">
+ <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow">
+ <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+ <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002410.html">
+ <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002407.html">
+ </HEAD>
+ <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing</H1>
+ <B>Olivier Thauvin</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20PGP%20keys%20and%20package%20signing&In-Reply-To=%3C20110201115231.GQ10402%40virgo.home.nanardon.zarb.org%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing">nanardon at nanardon.zarb.org
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Tue Feb 1 12:52:31 CET 2011</I>
+ <P><UL>
+ <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002410.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A></li>
+ <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002407.html">[Mageia-dev] Joining the team
+</A></li>
+ <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
+ <a href="date.html#2411">[ date ]</a>
+ <a href="thread.html#2411">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#2411">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#2411">[ author ]</a>
+ </LI>
+ </UL>
+ <HR>
+<!--beginarticle-->
+<PRE>* David Sj&#246;lin (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">david.sjolin at gmail.com</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello!
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I know this is probably a stupid question, but if you don't ask you
+</I>&gt;<i> won't learn so.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is this signing? I assume we won't encrypt the entire
+</I>&gt;<i> distribution? Is it some sort of way of saying that a package is
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Approved by Mageia&quot; so the package manager can warn about non
+</I>&gt;<i> approved packages?
+</I>
+Signing a rpm is performing a checksum of the rpm file using a gpg keys
+(the private one) and adding this checksum inside the rpm.
+
+I voluntary skip technical details about this process, in fact the whole
+rpm is not signed as the key is added to them (the checksum cannot be
+signed itself). But rpm manage this.
+
+When the rpm is signed you can find the keys used (here gnupg Mandriva):
+[<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">olivier at localhost</A> ~]$ rpm -q rpm --qf %{SIGGPG:pgpsig}
+DSA/SHA1, mar. 14 d&#233;c. 2010 17:05:12 CET, Key ID dd684d7a26752624
+
+Then with the gnupg key (the public one this time) you can check the rpm
+as not be corrupted or modified and really come from the supposed
+vendor.
+
+The key of this security is of course to not have the gnupg private key
+stolen, otherwise anybody could sign rpm like he was you.
+
+Urpmi checks the key for you when it download rpms from mirror.
+
+Best regards.
+
+--
+
+Olivier Thauvin
+CNRS - LATMOS
+&#9814; &#9816; &#9815; &#9813; &#9812; &#9815; &#9816; &#9814;
+-------------- next part --------------
+A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
+Name: not available
+Type: application/pgp-signature
+Size: 197 bytes
+Desc: not available
+URL: &lt;/pipermail/mageia-dev/attachments/20110201/c5fa1969/attachment.asc&gt;
+</PRE>
+
+<!--endarticle-->
+ <HR>
+ <P><UL>
+ <!--threads-->
+ <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002410.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A></li>
+ <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002407.html">[Mageia-dev] Joining the team
+</A></li>
+ <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
+ <a href="date.html#2411">[ date ]</a>
+ <a href="thread.html#2411">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#2411">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#2411">[ author ]</a>
+ </LI>
+ </UL>
+
+<hr>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev
+mailing list</a><br>
+</body></html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002412.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002412.html
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..2e31483d7
--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002412.html
@@ -0,0 +1,111 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
+<HTML>
+ <HEAD>
+ <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] announcing magpie
+ </TITLE>
+ <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" >
+ <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20announcing%20magpie&In-Reply-To=%3C201102010710.14112.thomas%40btspuhler.com%3E">
+ <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow">
+ <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+ <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002409.html">
+ <LINK REL="Next" HREF="002413.html">
+ </HEAD>
+ <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie</H1>
+ <B>Thomas Spuhler</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20announcing%20magpie&In-Reply-To=%3C201102010710.14112.thomas%40btspuhler.com%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie">thomas at btspuhler.com
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Tue Feb 1 15:10:06 CET 2011</I>
+ <P><UL>
+ <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002409.html">[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie
+</A></li>
+ <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002413.html">[Mageia-dev] Announcing a web viewer for svn, + quick guide to the svn
+</A></li>
+ <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
+ <a href="date.html#2412">[ date ]</a>
+ <a href="thread.html#2412">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#2412">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#2412">[ author ]</a>
+ </LI>
+ </UL>
+ <HR>
+<!--beginarticle-->
+<PRE>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
+Hash: SHA1
+
+On Tuesday, February 01, 2011 04:17:48 am Jerome Quelin wrote:
+&gt;<i> hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i'm happy to report that magpie 1.110320 is now available.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> On 11/01/24 16:42 +0100, Jerome Quelin wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in my mdv-&gt;mageia conversion, i promised to gather the various scripts
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; i'm using to maintain the bulk of perl packages and provide them for
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; everyone to use.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; so i'm pleased to announce magpie: MAGeia Perl Integration Easy
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> magpie now features a new command: checkout (alias co).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> it is *not* meant to replace &quot;mgarepo co&quot;, it does in fact use mgarepo
+</I>&gt;<i> underneath. so what does this command add?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - the possibility to check out in a given directory
+</I>&gt;<i> $ magpie co -d ~/rpm/cauldron perl
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - the fact that it will either check out *or* update the local check-out
+</I>&gt;<i> if it already exists:
+</I>&gt;<i> $ magpie co -d ~/rpm/cauldron perl
+</I>&gt;<i> # check-out if 1st run, update otherwise
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> - finally, the possibility to dump a shell command to execute to change
+</I>&gt;<i> directory in the fresh check-out:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> # add this in your ~/.bashrc
+</I>&gt;<i> function cco() { eval $(magpie co -d ~/rpm/cauldron -q -s $*); }
+</I>&gt;<i> # then, one can do a fresh checkout/update + cd by issuing:
+</I>&gt;<i> $ cco perl
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> nothing revolutionary, but it saves some keystrokes here and there.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> in the future, i intend to make this command to accept a perl module to
+</I>&gt;<i> automatically check-out the matching package:
+</I>&gt;<i> $ magpie co Foo::Bar
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> j&#233;r&#244;me
+</I>Thanks for doing this. Are you working around the clock, having time for this
+besides packing all the 1000+ perl packages
+- --
+Thomas
+-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
+Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux)
+
+iEYEARECAAYFAk1IFD4ACgkQjsMgV2ARTmNNwgCeOt/ylrw9EmfUDbE+AVWvi+Fv
+cbwAmweQNwkg0UZPaWwviyP571gXVvH0
+=HhcS
+-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
+</PRE>
+
+
+<!--endarticle-->
+ <HR>
+ <P><UL>
+ <!--threads-->
+ <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002409.html">[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie
+</A></li>
+ <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002413.html">[Mageia-dev] Announcing a web viewer for svn, + quick guide to the svn
+</A></li>
+ <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
+ <a href="date.html#2412">[ date ]</a>
+ <a href="thread.html#2412">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#2412">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#2412">[ author ]</a>
+ </LI>
+ </UL>
+
+<hr>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev
+mailing list</a><br>
+</body></html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002413.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002413.html
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..1e2570478
--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/002413.html
@@ -0,0 +1,195 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
+<HTML>
+ <HEAD>
+ <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] Announcing a web viewer for svn, + quick guide to the svn
+ </TITLE>
+ <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" >
+ <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Announcing%20a%20web%20viewer%20for%20svn%2C%0A%09%2B%20quick%20guide%20to%20the%20svn&In-Reply-To=%3C1296578714.12892.220.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E">
+ <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow">
+ <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+ <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="002412.html">
+
+ </HEAD>
+ <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Announcing a web viewer for svn, + quick guide to the svn</H1>
+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
+ <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Announcing%20a%20web%20viewer%20for%20svn%2C%0A%09%2B%20quick%20guide%20to%20the%20svn&In-Reply-To=%3C1296578714.12892.220.camel%40akroma.ephaone.org%3E"
+ TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Announcing a web viewer for svn, + quick guide to the svn">misc at zarb.org
+ </A><BR>
+ <I>Tue Feb 1 17:45:14 CET 2011</I>
+ <P><UL>
+ <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002412.html">[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie
+</A></li>
+
+ <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
+ <a href="date.html#2413">[ date ]</a>
+ <a href="thread.html#2413">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#2413">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#2413">[ author ]</a>
+ </LI>
+ </UL>
+ <HR>
+<!--beginarticle-->
+<PRE>Hi,
+
+Since command line browsing was not very practical, and since some
+people didn't found how to access to the svn ( as this was not widely
+documented ), a web interface was installed for looking at subversion
+( this was planned since a long time, but was less urgent than the
+others urgent tasks, so this was deployed slowly ).
+
+So if you want to look at svn you can now go on
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/</A> . The server is using a readonly copy of the
+subversion that is synced by cron so the latest commit may not appear
+immediately. Fixing this is doable, but not very high on the TODO list
+for now.
+
+So for those that will discover the content of the svn for the first
+time, here is a quick summary. The list of subversion repository can be
+found on
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/deployment/repositories/manifests/subversion.pp?revision=879&amp;view=markup">http://svnweb.mageia.org/adm/puppet/deployment/repositories/manifests/subversion.pp?revision=879&amp;view=markup</A>
+
+We do have on svn.mageia.org ( valstar ) 5 public repositories :
+adm
+soft
+web
+packages
+binrepos
+
+All of them but 1 are mirrored on the main web application server
+( alamut ). Binrepos hold the tarball and binary file from packages, and
+is expected to grow a lot ( 11g at the moment ), so we decided to not
+mirror for now.
+
+/packages
+---------
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/</A>
+
+/packages is where you can find specs files, patches and everything
+needed to rebuild packages. The best way to access is is using mgarepo,
+as explained by the wiki and boklm.
+There is 2 directories :
+misc -&gt; contains the old changelog of imported packages
+
+cauldron -&gt; 1 directory per package name
+
+In a package directory ( like
+<A HREF="http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/acpi/">http://svnweb.mageia.org/packages/cauldron/acpi/</A> ), you will find
+3 subdirectories most of the time :
+
+pristine/
+releases/
+current/
+
+pristine/ hold the latest submitted rpm ( ie, the specs and sources ).
+releases/ work like the tags directory of usual subversion layout, with
+the older version of the rpms, and current/ is the current work.
+
+When using mgarepo, it take current/, and that's where people should
+look for the newest version.
+
+Since no one except some people who work on the BS will likely be
+interested in the details, I will not go further ( being myself in the
+list of those that do not remember the details :p )
+
+/soft
+-----
+
+That's where we place most softwares we developed or forked ( fork being
+the last option ). Some are also developed by others, using others
+tools. We may switch to git or others dvcs later, and maybe also have
+smaller repositories ( ie 1 per software ), but so far, this is not the
+case and nothing is planned.
+
+You can find :
+mirrors/mga-mirrors/ -&gt; MGA::Mirrors, running on mirrors.mageia.org,
+ catalyst web application to manage mirror list
+
+rpm/rpm-setup/ -&gt; the rpm-setup content ( ie rpm macros )
+
+identity/catdap/ -&gt; the web interface for ldap, catdap, again
+ perl/catalyst
+
+build_system/iurt -&gt; the rebuild bot, written by Mandriva and adapted to
+ work with our layout and with privileges separation
+
+build_system/mgarepo -&gt; a fork of repsys, a connectiva tool for the
+ build system, using our layout ( binary
+ separated from others files )
+
+build_system/mdv-youri-core
+build_system/mdv-youri-submit -&gt; fork of youri ( zarb project ) made
+ by mandriva. Pushing changes upstream
+ is planned.
+build_system/web -&gt; what you see on pkgsubmit.mageia.org
+
+Others software are expected to appear there once we have finished
+reviewing trademark and logo, etc on mandriva svn.
+
+
+/web
+----
+
+That where the web site live, in www/.
+
+And there is the various templates for sympa, transifex, bugzilla in
+templates/. The templates are updated to the live version by cron, but
+nothing was commited for now ( except for bugzilla ).
+
+Rda would likely explain better than me the intended usage and layout of
+this one.
+
+/adm
+----
+
+That where the configuration of the server ( minus the passwords ) is
+stored. We are using puppet for that, it allows us to describe the
+configuration in the puppet DSL ( Domain Specific Language ), and it
+take care of dispatching to every server, saying how the server should
+be setup and behave.
+
+It is updated every 15 minutes on the main puppet server ( valstar ),
+and then every server get the config every 30 minutes. We can force
+update by hand if needed, but being lazy as all sysadmin, we don't.
+
+So if you want to know how we do something, you can look. If you want to
+help on sysadmin, you can send patches, based on the configuration
+( that something we tried to push, some innovation on the way sysadmin
+interact with community, but maybe the learning curve of puppet is too
+high, so I will try to do some training once I have free time and/or
+write more documentation ).
+
+
+That's all for now.
+
+If you want to access using the command line, the address didn't changed
+since it was opened in october 2010 , you can still use :
+svn $COMMAND <A HREF="svn://svn.mageia.org/svn/foo">svn://svn.mageia.org/svn/foo</A>
+
+If you have any questions, do not hesitate to ask, either on ml or on
+irc ( I would prefer on ml ). If someone want to cut and paste this on
+the wiki, feel free to do it too.
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
+</PRE>
+
+<!--endarticle-->
+ <HR>
+ <P><UL>
+ <!--threads-->
+ <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002412.html">[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie
+</A></li>
+
+ <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B>
+ <a href="date.html#2413">[ date ]</a>
+ <a href="thread.html#2413">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#2413">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#2413">[ author ]</a>
+ </LI>
+ </UL>
+
+<hr>
+<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev
+mailing list</a><br>
+</body></html>
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/author.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/author.html
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..65ab1c3a1
--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/author.html
@@ -0,0 +1,92 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
+<HTML>
+ <HEAD>
+ <title>The Mageia-dev 1 February 2011 Archive by author</title>
+ <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow">
+ <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+ </HEAD>
+ <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
+ <a name="start"></A>
+ <h1>1 February 2011 Archives by author</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Feb 1 00:15:36 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Feb 1 17:45:14 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 9<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002406.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002409.html">[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie
+</A><A NAME="2409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002405.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002413.html">[Mageia-dev] Announcing a web viewer for svn, + quick guide to the svn
+</A><A NAME="2413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002410.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Sj&#246;lin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002412.html">[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie
+</A><A NAME="2412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002408.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002411.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002407.html">[Mageia-dev] Joining the team
+</A><A NAME="2407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>mageia at linuxconsole.org
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue Feb 1 17:45:14 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Feb 1 17:45:19 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
+ Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i>
+ </BODY>
+</HTML>
+
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/date.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/date.html
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..15f62e5dc
--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/date.html
@@ -0,0 +1,92 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
+<HTML>
+ <HEAD>
+ <title>The Mageia-dev 1 February 2011 Archive by date</title>
+ <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow">
+ <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+ </HEAD>
+ <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
+ <a name="start"></A>
+ <h1>1 February 2011 Archives by date</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Feb 1 00:15:36 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Feb 1 17:45:14 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 9<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002405.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002406.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002407.html">[Mageia-dev] Joining the team
+</A><A NAME="2407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>mageia at linuxconsole.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002408.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002409.html">[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie
+</A><A NAME="2409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002410.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Sj&#246;lin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002411.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002412.html">[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie
+</A><A NAME="2412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002413.html">[Mageia-dev] Announcing a web viewer for svn, + quick guide to the svn
+</A><A NAME="2413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue Feb 1 17:45:14 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Feb 1 17:45:19 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
+ Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i>
+ </BODY>
+</HTML>
+
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/index.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/index.html
new file mode 120000
index 000000000..db4b46f72
--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/index.html
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+thread.html \ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/subject.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/subject.html
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..471ea9306
--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/subject.html
@@ -0,0 +1,92 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
+<HTML>
+ <HEAD>
+ <title>The Mageia-dev 1 February 2011 Archive by subject</title>
+ <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow">
+ <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+ </HEAD>
+ <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
+ <a name="start"></A>
+ <h1>1 February 2011 Archives by subject</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Feb 1 00:15:36 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Feb 1 17:45:14 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 9<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002413.html">[Mageia-dev] Announcing a web viewer for svn, + quick guide to the svn
+</A><A NAME="2413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002409.html">[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie
+</A><A NAME="2409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002412.html">[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie
+</A><A NAME="2412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002407.html">[Mageia-dev] Joining the team
+</A><A NAME="2407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>mageia at linuxconsole.org
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002405.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002406.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002408.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002410.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Sj&#246;lin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002411.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue Feb 1 17:45:14 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Feb 1 17:45:19 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+ <a href="thread.html#start">[ thread ]</a>
+
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
+ Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i>
+ </BODY>
+</HTML>
+
diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/thread.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/thread.html
new file mode 100644
index 000000000..596961c7c
--- /dev/null
+++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/20110201/thread.html
@@ -0,0 +1,109 @@
+<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
+<HTML>
+ <HEAD>
+ <title>The Mageia-dev 1 February 2011 Archive by thread</title>
+ <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="noindex,follow">
+ <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii">
+ </HEAD>
+ <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff">
+ <a name="start"></A>
+ <h1>1 February 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Tue Feb 1 00:15:36 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Tue Feb 1 17:45:14 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 9<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01296515736- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002405.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2405">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01296515736-01296520536- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002406.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2406">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Dick Gevers
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01296515736-01296520536-01296557266- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002408.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2408">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01296515736-01296520536-01296557266-01296559909- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002410.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2410">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>David Sj&#246;lin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01296515736-01296520536-01296557266-01296559909-01296561151- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002411.html">[Mageia-dev] PGP keys and package signing
+</A><A NAME="2411">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01296551573- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002407.html">[Mageia-dev] Joining the team
+</A><A NAME="2407">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>mageia at linuxconsole.org
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01296559068- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002409.html">[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie
+</A><A NAME="2409">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Jerome Quelin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01296559068-01296569406- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002412.html">[Mageia-dev] announcing magpie
+</A><A NAME="2412">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Spuhler
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01296578714- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002413.html">[Mageia-dev] Announcing a web viewer for svn, + quick guide to the svn
+</A><A NAME="2413">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael Scherer
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Tue Feb 1 17:45:14 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Tue Feb 1 17:45:19 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <hr>
+ <i>This archive was generated by
+ Pipermail 0.09 (Mailman edition).</i>
+ </BODY>
+</HTML>
+