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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 08:46:14AM +0100, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could we set up a mailing list for new uploaded RPMs like we had in Mandriva?
+</I>
+Not yet ( at least not until the catdap instance is ready and not before we exactly decided
+various things that i will explain once I am back from nuremberg meeting ).
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+But yes, that's likely to happen.
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 07:07:00PM +0100, Remy CLOUARD wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hello there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I started to have a look at the webapps policy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> There&#8217;s something that has been bugging me for a while, that&#8217;s the
+</I>&gt;<i> apache-centric way of thinking of this policy.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> To me, there are valuable alternatives to apache that deserve to be
+</I>&gt;<i> treated equally.
+</I>&gt;<i> Here are the packages that provides webserver
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> apache-ssl|apache-mpm-event|apache-mpm-peruser|nginx|lighttpd|
+</I>&gt;<i> cherokee|apache-mpm-itk|apache-mpm-worker|thttpd|apache-mpm-rsbac|
+</I>&gt;<i> apache-mpm-prefork|boa
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#8220;These are the files that are susceptible to change during the
+</I>&gt;<i> application's lifetime. They go in /var/lib/foo. If they are supposed to
+</I>&gt;<i> be editable by the application directly from the web interface, they
+</I>&gt;<i> should be owned by apache user and apache group.&#8221;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Could we create a generic group (webserver for instance) to allow
+</I>&gt;<i> webapps to play nice with these webserver ?
+</I>
+Wouldn't it be a security problem to have different
+daemon sharing the same uid ?
+
+&gt;<i> Same goes for logfiles and config files containing sensitive
+</I>&gt;<i> informations.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I would also be in favor of creating subpackages for webapps that
+</I>&gt;<i> provides better integration with apache such as files in
+</I>&gt;<i> /etc/httpd/conf/webapps.d/.
+</I>
+That would make life difficult for user, as they would have to answer questions
+about things that the package manager would have to figure by
+itself.
+
+( like deduce what configuration file would be used based on system information )
+
+I think we should aim to reduce questions rather to ask more.
+
+&gt;<i> That way, webapps should have a Requires on webserver, and the
+</I>&gt;<i> subpackage should have one on apache.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Another issue is the owner of /var/www. This directory is owned by
+</I>&gt;<i> apache-conf. Could we instead make a generic package called
+</I>&gt;<i> webserver-data for instance that would provide it ? This way each
+</I>&gt;<i> package providing webserver would have to require webserver-data.
+</I>
+Put it in filesystem rpm then. And technically, shouldn't
+we follow lsb and use /srv ?
+
+&gt;<i> Finally, that may be a little cosmetic detail, but I would prefer
+</I>&gt;<i> template files for apache to be in a separate file in SOURCES/ that&#8217;s
+</I>&gt;<i> included instead of creating it in the spec like:
+</I>&gt;<i> cat &gt; %{buildroot}%{_webappconfdir}/%{name}.conf &lt;&lt;EOF
+</I>
+Well, why ?
+Inline configfile can use macros, that's usually a way to be sure
+that /var/ww/%{name} is properly set
+--
+Michaeli Scherer
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+<PRE>On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 08:51:26PM +0100, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 09:21:56 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; There is also the issue on bytecompilation ( <A HREF="https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=50484">https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=50484</A> ).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I have exposed there the various problem, and apart from explaining
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; that the solution I chosed was not better than the other, no one gave a compeling
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; argument into one or the others alternatives.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That depends how &quot;compelling&quot; you expect the argument to be :)
+</I>&gt;<i> The current situation is clearly not satisfactory.
+</I>
+I agree that the solution is not perfect for everybody, and if
+I had one that would not be without problem, I would have adopted it.
+
+&gt;<i> The solution of generating bytecode at install time looks fine. I am
+</I>&gt;<i> not an RPM specialist though, but if you have non-RPM specific questions
+</I>&gt;<i> feel free to ask them, I'd be glad to answer.
+</I>
+Well, that's not satisfying from a rpm pov, unfortunately.
+But with some patchs, that the one that I would use, yes.
+until that, i prefer know documented breakage, than new undocumented breakage.
+(ie, shadok proverb, if you want to have less unhappy people, just hit always the
+same ).
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; Finally, a vast part of the policy is handling 2to3, a topic that we didn't discuss
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; at all, and I would not be confortable to adopt it without first looking at it and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; discussing it.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the issue with &quot;handling 2to3&quot;? It's a developer tool and
+</I>&gt;<i> certainly shouldn't be invoked at install time if that's what you are
+</I>&gt;<i> asking. Generally, I don't think you (as a packager) have to invoke
+</I>&gt;<i> 2to3 manually at all. If 2to3 is part of the packaged software's build
+</I>&gt;<i> process, then their setup.py will probably invoke it automatically with
+</I>&gt;<i> the right options.
+</I>
+I as more speaking of the transition from pyton 2 to python 3. I think the easiest
+on a policy point of view is to handle this like 2 separate languages, but that mean twice the work.
+And so we should at least try to do better ( not sure that we can, of course ).
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
+&gt;<i> Regards
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Antoine.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+<PRE>* andre999 (<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">andr55 at laposte.net</A>) wrote:
+&gt;<i> Motoko-chan a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> Many mirror sites do restrict multiple connexions (per user), so
+</I>&gt;<i> evidently it is readily done. If a mirror chooses not to make such
+</I>&gt;<i> restrictions, that is their choice. It is not good form (to put it
+</I>&gt;<i> mildly) for some mirrors to try to dictate mirror policy for other
+</I>&gt;<i> mirrors, which could have different interests.
+</I>&gt;<i> Limiting the connexion speed could be an easy way to ensure that usually
+</I>&gt;<i> everyone who wishes to connect can do so in busy times. In less busy
+</I>&gt;<i> times, multiple connexions to such mirrors causes no problem.
+</I>
+It seems you didn't understood my previous replies, or not read them, or
+you're just ignoring them (maybe you're doing all of this together).
+
+How can you say &quot;multiple connexions to such mirrors causes no problem&quot;
+whereas I am trying to explain you it causes problems.
+
+--
+
+Olivier Thauvin
+CNRS - LATMOS
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+I will not be present at the packagers's meeting tonight, as
+I will likely be finishing the app installer meeting in
+Nuremberg ( transalte : discuss in a pub ).
+The wifi is expensive, and so I had to use ninja
+powers to get ssh access ( translate : use mad h4x0r
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+Michael scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; The solution of generating bytecode at install time looks fine. I am
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; not an RPM specialist though, but if you have non-RPM specific questions
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; feel free to ask them, I'd be glad to answer.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, that's not satisfying from a rpm pov, unfortunately.
+</I>
+Can you explain why it isn't? I'm sure other packages generate stuff at
+install-time, right? Also, the list of files is well-known (it's
+everything named &quot;*.py&quot; that goes somewhere inside /usr/lib/pythonXXX/).
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; What is the issue with &quot;handling 2to3&quot;? It's a developer tool and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; certainly shouldn't be invoked at install time if that's what you are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; asking. Generally, I don't think you (as a packager) have to invoke
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2to3 manually at all. If 2to3 is part of the packaged software's build
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; process, then their setup.py will probably invoke it automatically with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; the right options.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I as more speaking of the transition from pyton 2 to python 3. I think the easiest
+</I>&gt;<i> on a policy point of view is to handle this like 2 separate languages, but that mean twice the work.
+</I>&gt;<i> And so we should at least try to do better ( not sure that we can, of course ).
+</I>
+Handling them as two separate languages looks indeed like the right
+thing to do, IMO. In any case, as I said, you shouldn't be the one
+wondering about 2to3. Upstream developers do, if that's the conversion
+method they chose for their project.
+
+I'm not sure about &quot;twice the work&quot;: you don't need to track twice the
+software releases (except for the interpreter itself), or twice the
+upstream patches, etc.
+
+Regards
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+Antoine.
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+<PRE>On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 11:50:32PM +0100, Per &#216;yvind Karlsen wrote:
+&gt;<i>Legacy practice which got stuck with some...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i>'Name: foo' will always define %{name} now (which has been the case for ages),
+</I>&gt;<i>so there's no longer use in doing this anymore.
+</I>&gt;<i>It mainly adds unnecessary obscurity and confusion, please just drop this.
+</I>&quot;Name: foo&quot;
+appers to be working
+in rpm 4.6 &quot;Version: foo&quot; is totally borked, dunno with rpm 5
+this is why i will continue on using macros for version and release.
+%define myver 1.0
+%define myrel %mkrel 1
+
+Name: foo
+Version: %myver
+Release: %myrel
+
+L.
+
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+<PRE>On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 02:07:18AM +0100, Antoine Pitrou wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 00:55:40 +0100
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; The solution of generating bytecode at install time looks fine. I am
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; not an RPM specialist though, but if you have non-RPM specific questions
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; feel free to ask them, I'd be glad to answer.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Well, that's not satisfying from a rpm pov, unfortunately.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can you explain why it isn't? I'm sure other packages generate stuff at
+</I>&gt;<i> install-time, right? Also, the list of files is well-known (it's
+</I>&gt;<i> everything named &quot;*.py&quot; that goes somewhere inside /usr/lib/pythonXXX/).
+</I>
+Because that would 1) requires a patch to rpm that we do not have or
+2) patch all python packages to had %ghost on all *.pyc, and do a compilation of
+*pyc ( the 2nd part is easy, the first one is slightly harder to automate )
+3) do not care about file tracking, but that's unclean.
+
+Do not get me wrong, I think that's the way forward, but that's not applicable
+in a few days.
+
+And I cannot think of a rpm generating stuff at install time that do not requires
+specific intervention in the spec. Usually, we have packages that register themself
+in a dynamic list ( man, info, .desktop ), or that trigger symlink
+( updates-alternatives ) , and those symlink are not tracked by rpm, and that's a
+suboptimal solution ( ie, you cannot do a research by file name, etc )
+
+&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; What is the issue with &quot;handling 2to3&quot;? It's a developer tool and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; certainly shouldn't be invoked at install time if that's what you are
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; asking. Generally, I don't think you (as a packager) have to invoke
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; 2to3 manually at all. If 2to3 is part of the packaged software's build
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; process, then their setup.py will probably invoke it automatically with
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; the right options.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I as more speaking of the transition from pyton 2 to python 3. I think the easiest
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on a policy point of view is to handle this like 2 separate languages, but that mean twice the work.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; And so we should at least try to do better ( not sure that we can, of course ).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Handling them as two separate languages looks indeed like the right
+</I>&gt;<i> thing to do, IMO. In any case, as I said, you shouldn't be the one
+</I>&gt;<i> wondering about 2to3. Upstream developers do, if that's the conversion
+</I>&gt;<i> method they chose for their project.
+</I>
+Well, I was not clear, when i said &quot;2to3&quot;, i didn't mean't the tools at all.
+Rather the fact we have to handle the migration, my sentences was poorly worded.
+
+&gt;<i> I'm not sure about &quot;twice the work&quot;: you don't need to track twice the
+</I>&gt;<i> software releases (except for the interpreter itself), or twice the
+</I>&gt;<i> upstream patches, etc.
+</I>
+Well, if we handle this like 2 separates languages, that mean 2 separates rpms for
+each modules. Or we should be clever when generating 1 rpm to have the modules
+for both python 3 and python 2 generated ( Except when the developper did choose
+to have separate tarball or code base )
+Having one rpm that produces 2 modules also mean that we will rebuild all modules
+for python3 and all for python2, and I know that for example Buchan will not like
+the extranous trafic it would generate.
+
+So IMHO, there is various things to discuss.
+--
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+<PRE>Luca Berra &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bluca at vodka.it</A>&gt; schrieb am 2011-01-19
+&gt;<i> &quot;Name: foo&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> appers to be working
+</I>&gt;<i> in rpm 4.6 &quot;Version: foo&quot; is totally borked, dunno with rpm 5
+</I>&gt;<i> this is why i will continue on using macros for version and
+</I>&gt;<i> release. %define myver 1.0
+</I>&gt;<i> %define myrel %mkrel 1
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Name: foo
+</I>&gt;<i> Version: %myver
+</I>&gt;<i> Release: %myrel
+</I>
+Can't follow you there: what is or is not working with
+&quot;Version: foo&quot; or &quot;Release: %mkrel foo&quot;?
+
+Oliver
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+ <B>Colin Guthrie</B>
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+<PRE>'Twas brillig, and Oliver Burger at 19/01/11 08:07 did gyre and gimble:
+&gt;<i> Luca Berra &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bluca at vodka.it</A>&gt; schrieb am 2011-01-19
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> &quot;Name: foo&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> appers to be working
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> in rpm 4.6 &quot;Version: foo&quot; is totally borked, dunno with rpm 5
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> this is why i will continue on using macros for version and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> release. %define myver 1.0
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> %define myrel %mkrel 1
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Name: foo
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Version: %myver
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Release: %myrel
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Can't follow you there: what is or is not working with
+</I>&gt;<i> &quot;Version: foo&quot; or &quot;Release: %mkrel foo&quot;?
+</I>
+I think he's saying that if you do this:
+ Name: foo
+then you can subsequently use %name elsewhere in the spec and all will
+be well.
+
+But if you use:
+ Version: 1.0
+then you cannot use %version elsewhere in the spec.
+
+So defining it manually is the best way to do it so it can be used
+elsewhere.
+
+However, I could not replicate that here on my pre-RPM5 cooker box.
+Using the version with the tag and using %version worked just fine. So I
+think I have misinterpreted too :s
+
+
+Col
+
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+<PRE>On 19 January 2011 10:24, Colin Guthrie &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at colin.guthr.ie</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> I think he's saying that if you do this:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;Name: foo
+</I>&gt;<i> then you can subsequently use %name elsewhere in the spec and all will
+</I>&gt;<i> be well.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But if you use:
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;Version: 1.0
+</I>&gt;<i> then you cannot use %version elsewhere in the spec.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So defining it manually is the best way to do it so it can be used
+</I>&gt;<i> elsewhere.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> However, I could not replicate that here on my pre-RPM5 cooker box.
+</I>&gt;<i> Using the version with the tag and using %version worked just fine. So I
+</I>&gt;<i> think I have misinterpreted too :s
+</I>
+Indeed since I've used &quot;Version: 1.0&quot; for 12 years...
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+Next meeting will happen tonigh on #mageia-dev at 20h UTC.
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+Here are our topics:
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+- Review of build system and distro bootstrap
+- Proposal for mentoring process (wiki page will be updated today):
+review and comments
+- Review on current mentoring process and people concerned
+- Review on policies import
+
+As usual feel free to propose any other topic provided our meeting
+stay in human timetable :). It would be great to have a short one this
+time and keep something longer for next one as it will be last
+wednesday of january.
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+Cheers
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+<PRE>2011/1/19 Michael scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt;:
+&gt;<i> Because that would 1) requires a patch to rpm that we do not have or
+</I>&gt;<i> 2) patch all python packages to had %ghost on all *.pyc, &#160;and do a compilation of
+</I>&gt;<i> *pyc ( the 2nd part is easy, the first one is slightly harder to automate )
+</I>&gt;<i> 3) do not care about file tracking, but that's unclean.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do not get me wrong, I think that's the way forward, but that's not applicable
+</I>&gt;<i> in a few days.
+</I>of course
+
+Can we forget for a little Mandriva and talk about Mageia ?
+I mean, we are before the alpha stage, so it's time to think about
+what the future can be
+did you read the OpenSuse policy ?
+<A HREF="http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Packaging_Python">http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Packaging_Python</A>
+
+of course the best solution would be be to put into the rpm only *.py,
+bitcompilling them at install and trac *.pyc and *.pyo as %ghost
+
+but it seems that neither Fedora, neither OpenSuse have problem to
+package bitcompiled files
+(the %fdupes OpenSuse solution seems not bad)
+
+or can we patch distutils/command/install.py even more than OpenSuse
+(<A HREF="https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=python-distutils-rpm-8.patch&amp;package=python&amp;project=home%3Acoolo%3Abranches%3AopenSUSE%3AFactory&amp;srcmd5=25a3587ace933a14ae62edfc4cd927b7">https://build.opensuse.org/package/view_file?file=python-distutils-rpm-8.patch&amp;package=python&amp;project=home%3Acoolo%3Abranches%3AopenSUSE%3AFactory&amp;srcmd5=25a3587ace933a14ae62edfc4cd927b7</A>)
+did, to generate a rpm-compatible format that would manage %ghost ?
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+<PRE>On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 08:25:23 +0100
+Michael scherer &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">misc at zarb.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I'm not sure about &quot;twice the work&quot;: you don't need to track twice the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; software releases (except for the interpreter itself), or twice the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; upstream patches, etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, if we handle this like 2 separates languages, that mean 2 separates rpms for
+</I>&gt;<i> each modules. Or we should be clever when generating 1 rpm to have the modules
+</I>&gt;<i> for both python 3 and python 2 generated ( Except when the developper did choose
+</I>&gt;<i> to have separate tarball or code base )
+</I>&gt;<i> Having one rpm that produces 2 modules also mean that we will rebuild all modules
+</I>&gt;<i> for python3 and all for python2, and I know that for example Buchan will not like
+</I>&gt;<i> the extranous trafic it would generate.
+</I>
+Well AFAIK some other distros (not Debian and Ubuntu which have a more
+complicated system) have separate packages per interpreter version
+(python2.4-twisted, python2.6-twisted, etc.). But you can put all
+versions in a single package too. I see no hard reason against that.
+
+Regards
+
+Antoine.
+
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+I'd like to move away from the hardcoded backgrounds location for
+themes, and put them in a distro-neutral path
+(was /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/ in Mandriva)
+
+Most Gnome backgrounds appear to be located in
+/usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/ (some are in /usr/share/backgrounds/)
+
+Is everyone ok to have our backgrounds in
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+Thanks
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+On 19 January 2011 12:06, Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to move away from the hardcoded backgrounds location for
+</I>&gt;<i> themes, and put them in a distro-neutral path
+</I>&gt;<i> (was /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/ in Mandriva)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Most Gnome backgrounds appear to be located in
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/ (some are in /usr/share/backgrounds/)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is everyone ok to have our backgrounds in
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/&lt;theme name&gt;/ and the distro default as
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/default.jpg ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Olivier Blin - blino
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+KDE uses a different path, I think that it is /usr/share/wallpapers or
+similar, maybe a symlink would be useful.
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+On 19 January 2011 12:06, Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to move away from the hardcoded backgrounds location for
+</I>&gt;<i> themes, and put them in a distro-neutral path
+</I>&gt;<i> (was /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/ in Mandriva)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Most Gnome backgrounds appear to be located in
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/ (some are in /usr/share/backgrounds/)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is everyone ok to have our backgrounds in
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/&lt;theme name&gt;/ and the distro default as
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/default.jpg ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Olivier Blin - blino
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+KDE uses a different path, I think that it is /usr/share/wallpapers or
+similar, maybe a symlink would be useful.
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+&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I just imported the RPM Spec File Syntax page in the wiki.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> It&#8217;s located here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spec_syntax">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spec_syntax</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Please review this page as it&#8217;s one of the most important one for the
+</I>&gt;<i> beginning of the mentoring process, with the RPM Howto page (yet to be
+</I>&gt;<i> imported).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Some comments on this page:
+</I>&gt;<i> - Patch naming:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I&#8217;m not sure we should go that far for the patch naming policy, and in
+</I>&gt;<i> practice it&#8217;s not what I&#8217;ve seen up till now.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Here&#8217;s a proposal:
+</I>&gt;<i> Patches must be named in a very explicit manner to make it very clear to
+</I>&gt;<i> what version it was originally applied. To that end, a patch needs to
+</I>&gt;<i> follow the convention of
+</I>&gt;<i> [package_name]-[version]-[description].patch:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;* [package_name] is the name of the package it applies against, such
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;as 'shadow-utils' or 'gnupg'
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;* [version] is the version of the program this patch was developed
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160;against, such as 1.0. The name of the patch should not change,
+</I>
+I don't agree, if you rediff the patch against version 2.0 the the
+version in the patch name should change; one reason is, it can't be
+applied to version 1.0 any more without restoring the old patch from
+an older SVN rev. or rediffing it again.
+
+[...]
+
+&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> R&#233;my CLOUARD
+</I>&gt;<i> () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail
+</I>&gt;<i> /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments
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+<PRE>On 17 January 2011 23:53, Florian Hubold &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">doktor5000 at arcor.de</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Am 15.01.2011 11:08, schrieb Remy CLOUARD:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spec_syntax">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spec_syntax</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Please review this page as it&#8217;s one of the most important one for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> beginning of the mentoring process, with the RPM Howto page (yet to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> imported).
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have one comment, or more of a question: Why is it that some time ago
+</I>&gt;<i> there used to be this syntax as de-facto standard:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> %define name
+</I>&gt;<i> Name: %name
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Never understood this, so i went with what seems the new standard,
+</I>&gt;<i> which saves you at least 3 lines per spec and improving readability.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So anyone can enlighten me why name, release and version had %defines?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Just more visibility, ideally it comes down to that package
+maintainer's preference.
+
+(One point to note, if you see it in an unmaintained package go ahead
+and change it if you want; however if you see it in the spec of
+maintained package, ask the maintainer first, a nicety but still..
+:<i>)).
+</I>
+--
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+<PRE>On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 01:06:49PM +0100, Olivier Blin wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I'd like to move away from the hardcoded backgrounds location for
+</I>&gt;<i> themes, and put them in a distro-neutral path
+</I>&gt;<i> (was /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/ in Mandriva)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Most Gnome backgrounds appear to be located in
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/ (some are in /usr/share/backgrounds/)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Is everyone ok to have our backgrounds in
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/&lt;theme name&gt;/ and the distro default as
+</I>&gt;<i> /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/default.jpg ?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Thanks
+</I>Well, I&#8217;d say it would be better if it were also desktop-neutral.
+
+AFAIK, there is one freedesktop specification for icons [1], but not for
+wallpapers, it would be nice to raise this subject on fd.o ml.
+
+I don&#8217;t know which package owns /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/, but
+apparently it&#8217;s not desktop-common-data. I would rather not having to
+install gnome packages/kde packages for that.
+
+Regards,
+
+[1] <A HREF="http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/icon-theme-spec">http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/icon-theme-spec</A>
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+
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 01:06:49PM +0100, Olivier Blin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I'd like to move away from the hardcoded backgrounds location for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> themes, and put them in a distro-neutral path
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> (was /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/ in Mandriva)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Most Gnome backgrounds appear to be located in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/ (some are in /usr/share/backgrounds/)
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Is everyone ok to have our backgrounds in
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/&lt;theme name&gt;/ and the distro default as
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/default.jpg ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, I&#8217;d say it would be better if it were also desktop-neutral.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> AFAIK, there is one freedesktop specification for icons [1], but not for
+</I>&gt;<i> wallpapers, it would be nice to raise this subject on fd.o ml.
+</I>
+We can raise the subject there, but we should have a fast short-term
+decision for Mageia as well, this is blocking for packages import.
+
+So that would be either /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds, /usr/share/wallpapers,
+or /usr/share/backgrounds
+
+Any idea about how other distros are handling this?
+
+&gt;<i> I don&#8217;t know which package owns /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/, but
+</I>&gt;<i> apparently it&#8217;s not desktop-common-data. I would rather not having to
+</I>&gt;<i> install gnome packages/kde packages for that.
+</I>
+No packages owns it yet.
+$ LC_ALL=C rpm -qf /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/
+file /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds is not owned by any package
+
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+&gt;<i> Remy CLOUARD &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">shikamaru at mandriva.org</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 01:06:49PM +0100, Olivier Blin wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'd like to move away from the hardcoded backgrounds location for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> themes, and put them in a distro-neutral path
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (was /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/ in Mandriva)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Most Gnome backgrounds appear to be located in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/ (some are in /usr/share/backgrounds/)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is everyone ok to have our backgrounds in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/&lt;theme name&gt;/ and the distro default as
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/default.jpg ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Well, I&#8217;d say it would be better if it were also desktop-neutral.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> AFAIK, there is one freedesktop specification for icons [1], but not for
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> wallpapers, it would be nice to raise this subject on fd.o ml.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> We can raise the subject there, but we should have a fast short-term
+</I>&gt;<i> decision for Mageia as well, this is blocking for packages import.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So that would be either /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds, /usr/share/wallpapers,
+</I>&gt;<i> or /usr/share/backgrounds
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Any idea about how other distros are handling this?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don&#8217;t know which package owns /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> apparently it&#8217;s not desktop-common-data. I would rather not having to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> install gnome packages/kde packages for that.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No packages owns it yet.
+</I>&gt;<i> $ LC_ALL=C rpm -qf /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/
+</I>&gt;<i> file /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds is not owned by any package
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Olivier Blin - blino
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+gnome-screensaver uses /usr/share/backgrounds.
+
+I think /usr/share/wallpapers is the best one.
+
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> I will not be present at the packagers's meeting tonight, as
+</I>&gt;<i> I will likely be finishing the app installer meeting in
+</I>&gt;<i> Nuremberg ( transalte : discuss in a pub ).
+</I>&gt;<i> The wifi is expensive, and so I had to use ninja
+</I>&gt;<i> powers to get ssh access ( translate : use mad h4x0r
+</I>&gt;<i> skill ).
+</I>&gt;<i> So sorry, especially for ennael that I let do the work.
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Michael Scherer
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+I just wanted to say : I'll never be present on Wednesday evenings for
+a year, due to personal agenda. So, if you (the people who meet) could
+find a way to not meet on the same day every week, I'll be most than
+thankful. And no, I can't change my agenda. It was like that even
+before mageia was created.
+
+Who am I ? Well, I'm just trying to be a mageia packager :P
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+<PRE>On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 02:44:35PM +0200, Ahmad Samir wrote:
+&gt;<i> On 15 January 2011 12:08, Remy CLOUARD &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">shikamaru at mandriva.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Hi there,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I just imported the RPM Spec File Syntax page in the wiki.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; It&#8217;s located here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spec_syntax">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spec_syntax</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Please review this page as it&#8217;s one of the most important one for the
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; beginning of the mentoring process, with the RPM Howto page (yet to be
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; imported).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Some comments on this page:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - Patch naming:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I&#8217;m not sure we should go that far for the patch naming policy, and in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; practice it&#8217;s not what I&#8217;ve seen up till now.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Here&#8217;s a proposal:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Patches must be named in a very explicit manner to make it very clear to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; what version it was originally applied. To that end, a patch needs to
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; follow the convention of
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; [package_name]-[version]-[description].patch:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;* [package_name] is the name of the package it applies against, such
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;as 'shadow-utils' or 'gnupg'
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;* [version] is the version of the program this patch was developed
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &#160;against, such as 1.0. The name of the patch should not change,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I don't agree, if you rediff the patch against version 2.0 the the
+</I>&gt;<i> version in the patch name should change; one reason is, it can't be
+</I>&gt;<i> applied to version 1.0 any more without restoring the old patch from
+</I>&gt;<i> an older SVN rev. or rediffing it again.
+</I>
+But that mean we lose history of svn ?
+--
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+<PRE>Michael scherer skrev 19.1.2011 15:30:
+&gt;<i> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 02:44:35PM +0200, Ahmad Samir wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On 15 January 2011 12:08, Remy CLOUARD&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">shikamaru at mandriva.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Hi there,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I just imported the RPM Spec File Syntax page in the wiki.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> It&#8217;s located here: <A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spec_syntax">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=spec_syntax</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Please review this page as it&#8217;s one of the most important one for the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> beginning of the mentoring process, with the RPM Howto page (yet to be
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> imported).
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Some comments on this page:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> - Patch naming:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I&#8217;m not sure we should go that far for the patch naming policy, and in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> practice it&#8217;s not what I&#8217;ve seen up till now.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Here&#8217;s a proposal:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Patches must be named in a very explicit manner to make it very clear to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> what version it was originally applied. To that end, a patch needs to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> follow the convention of
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> [package_name]-[version]-[description].patch:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * [package_name] is the name of the package it applies against, such
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> as 'shadow-utils' or 'gnupg'
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> * [version] is the version of the program this patch was developed
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> against, such as 1.0. The name of the patch should not change,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I don't agree, if you rediff the patch against version 2.0 the the
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> version in the patch name should change; one reason is, it can't be
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> applied to version 1.0 any more without restoring the old patch from
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> an older SVN rev. or rediffing it again.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But that mean we lose history of svn ?
+</I>
+svn mv old_patch_name new_patch_name
+
+and then update new_patch_name to apply correctly.
+
+--
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+<PRE>1. Leave them where they are for now (breaks less things) and
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+2. pursue standardization with freedesktop.org, then
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+3. adopt that standard.
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+Done in three.
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+&gt;<i> 1. Leave them where they are for now (breaks less things) and
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 2. pursue standardization with freedesktop.org, then
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> 3. adopt that standard.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Done in three.
+</I>
+I wouldn't want to keep a path with &quot;mdk&quot; inside, even temporarily
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+<PRE>I understand your sentiment. Given unlimited resources, it is an
+acceptable choice.
+
+I'm not advocating ignoring it. Nor am I saying it should continue
+unabated. I'm advocating a way to 'solve' the problem on a long-term
+basis with a minimum of hassle.
+
+As a matter of expediency, it does no harm to maintain the status quo
+(especially since this item is not obvious to the typical newbie user)
+and frees time and resources for more pressing, if less ideological ,
+needs.
+
+
+On 1/19/11, Olivier Blin &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mageia at blino.org</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Hoyt Duff &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">hoytduff at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 1. Leave them where they are for now (breaks less things) and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 2. pursue standardization with freedesktop.org, then
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> 3. adopt that standard.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Done in three.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I wouldn't want to keep a path with &quot;mdk&quot; inside, even temporarily
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Olivier Blin - blino
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+
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+&gt;<i> Hi,
+</I>&gt;<i> I will not be present at the packagers's meeting tonight, as
+</I>&gt;<i> I will likely be finishing the app installer meeting in
+</I>&gt;<i> Nuremberg ( transalte : discuss in a pub ).
+</I>&gt;<i> The wifi is expensive, and so I had to use ninja
+</I>&gt;<i> powers to get ssh access ( translate : use mad h4x0r
+</I>&gt;<i> skill ).
+</I>&gt;<i> So sorry, especially for ennael that I let do the work.
+</I>
+Unfortunately I'll miss the meeting as well.
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+<PRE>Ahmad Samir &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com</A>&gt; writes:
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+&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I'd like to move away from the hardcoded backgrounds location for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> themes, and put them in a distro-neutral path
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> (was /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/ in Mandriva)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Most Gnome backgrounds appear to be located in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/ (some are in /usr/share/backgrounds/)
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Is everyone ok to have our backgrounds in
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/&lt;theme name&gt;/ and the distro default as
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/default.jpg ?
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Well, I&#8217;d say it would be better if it were also desktop-neutral.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> AFAIK, there is one freedesktop specification for icons [1], but not for
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> wallpapers, it would be nice to raise this subject on fd.o ml.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> We can raise the subject there, but we should have a fast short-term
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> decision for Mageia as well, this is blocking for packages import.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> So that would be either /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds, /usr/share/wallpapers,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> or /usr/share/backgrounds
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Any idea about how other distros are handling this?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> I don&#8217;t know which package owns /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/, but
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> apparently it&#8217;s not desktop-common-data. I would rather not having to
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> install gnome packages/kde packages for that.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> No packages owns it yet.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> $ LC_ALL=C rpm -qf /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> file /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds is not owned by any package
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome-screensaver uses /usr/share/backgrounds.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I think /usr/share/wallpapers is the best one.
+</I>
+Actually, /usr/share/backgrounds seems pretty good, since
+gnome-control-center uses this directory by default
+I'll use this one temporarily.
+
+--
+Olivier Blin - blino
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> Actually, /usr/share/backgrounds seems pretty good, since
+</I>&gt;<i> gnome-control-center uses this directory by default
+</I>&gt;<i> I'll use this one temporarily.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> Olivier Blin - blino
+</I>&gt;<i>
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+Then can KDE be patched to look there, packaging complimentary
+backgrounds will be far simpler then, 4 packages can be merged into 3
+or so........
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+easier ones left:
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+ - there's still some java stuff, which i assume dmorgan (and hopefully some
+help) is going to take care of.
+ - there's rpm stuff
+ - and seemingly alot of duplicates in mdv and mga list.
+
+so, this one was one of the few left.
+
+except, is spec-helper one of the patches ones too?
+
+Buildrequires will have to be changed to perl(IPC::Run3) instead of
+perl(IPC::Run), so my question is:
+
+Do i patch this to run with IPC::Run3 ? or is this to be forked?
+
+lemme know what you think.
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+<PRE>On Mon, Jan 10, 2011 at 01:49:30AM +0100, Michael Scherer wrote:
+&gt;<i> Le vendredi 07 janvier 2011 &#224; 23:45 +0100, Remy CLOUARD a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; You can find the page here:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; <A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Ruby">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Policies/Ruby</A>
+</I>[...]
+&gt;<i> This cause problem since we do have rpm present twice ( without people
+</I>&gt;<i> noticing, as I dicovered when trying to use gitorious ). More ever, this
+</I>&gt;<i> is confusing for packagers. There is also potential breakage if someone
+</I>&gt;<i> start to do tarball, then gems, etc etc.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I have already expressed my opinion on the subject, and still maintain
+</I>&gt;<i> it :
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> ruby rpm should be ruby-*.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>Ok, so I assume ruby rpm should be packaged as a gem or as a regular
+package, but not both (sounds sensible anyway)
+
+[...]
+
+Now, I&#8217;ve made an erb template to match what we discussed up till now.
+
+You can see the result here
+<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Ruby_packaging_policy#Samples">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Ruby_packaging_policy#Samples</A>
+
+A few comments about this spec:
+- devel package is generated to pull the development dependencies, maybe
+ it could be created also whenever there are additional files that are
+ not in the require_paths node of the YAML specification.
+
+
+There are several things that need to be fixed:
+- in gem2rpm, version requirements should translate the ~&gt; operator
+ (it means &gt;= X.Y and &lt; Z)
+- in rubygems.rb, files that are not in require_paths are deleted. So we
+ have to support test_files so that they can be included in the devel
+ packages
+
+Regarding the specification, I would like to generalize tests, but that
+will not be an easy task, because of circular dependencies, don&#8217;t know
+how to circumvent the issue, because even if I first do the import
+without the check for the bootstrap, It&#8217;s likely that the problem will
+arise when upgrading the package, requiring to disable the test first
+and then activate it again&#8230;
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+says &quot;- README: Some reference to the Mandriva mailing list and
+bugzilla will need to be changed to Mageia ones&quot;
+
+Do we really want to?
+What is the point?
+I think we can package this tool as-is, as a tool provided by Mandriva
+like if we were packaging a non distro specific tool developed by
+RedHat or Debian or anyone and let people report their bugs upstream
+if the README says so.
+
+If someday it becomes unmaintained or for any other reason, we can
+fork it, but currently I think of it as an external tool and see no
+reason in importing it into our svn
+
+I did not read the full list but I guess there are other standalone
+tools that we don't need to fork into our svn.
+
+Opinions?
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+<PRE>On Wed, 19 Jan 2011, Pascal Terjan wrote:
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+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svn.mageia.org/soft-cleaning/status.html#monitor-edid">http://svn.mageia.org/soft-cleaning/status.html#monitor-edid</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> says &quot;- README: Some reference to the Mandriva mailing list and
+</I>&gt;<i> bugzilla will need to be changed to Mageia ones&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do we really want to?
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the point?
+</I>&gt;<i> I think we can package this tool as-is, as a tool provided by Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> like if we were packaging a non distro specific tool developed by
+</I>&gt;<i> RedHat or Debian or anyone and let people report their bugs upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> if the README says so.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If someday it becomes unmaintained or for any other reason, we can
+</I>&gt;<i> fork it, but currently I think of it as an external tool and see no
+</I>&gt;<i> reason in importing it into our svn
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did not read the full list but I guess there are other standalone
+</I>&gt;<i> tools that we don't need to fork into our svn.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Opinions?
+</I>
+Yes, I agree. If it is not necessary to fork something (no proprietary
+images, no important and incompatible changes required) then we should
+not fork it until it becomes necessary.
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+<PRE>&gt;<i> If someday it becomes unmaintained or for any other reason, we can
+</I>&gt;<i> fork it, but currently I think of it as an external tool and see no
+</I>&gt;<i> reason in importing it into our svn
+</I>Do you mean to avoid importing the source code to modify it?
+If so, i agree, we can just import it as source package like other
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+&gt;&gt;<i> If someday it becomes unmaintained or for any other reason, we can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fork it, but currently I think of it as an external tool and see no
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reason in importing it into our svn
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you mean to avoid importing the source code to modify it?
+</I>&gt;<i> If so, i agree, we can &#160;just import it as source package like other
+</I>&gt;<i> tarball...
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+Sure as long as there is no license issue
+
+&gt;<i> --
+</I>&gt;<i> &#160; &#160; &#160; &#160;Angelo
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+<PRE>Op woensdag 19 januari 2011 21:32:13 schreef Pascal Terjan:
+&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svn.mageia.org/soft-cleaning/status.html#monitor-edid">http://svn.mageia.org/soft-cleaning/status.html#monitor-edid</A>
+</I>&gt;<i> says &quot;- README: Some reference to the Mandriva mailing list and
+</I>&gt;<i> bugzilla will need to be changed to Mageia ones&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do we really want to?
+</I>&gt;<i> What is the point?
+</I>&gt;<i> I think we can package this tool as-is, as a tool provided by Mandriva
+</I>&gt;<i> like if we were packaging a non distro specific tool developed by
+</I>&gt;<i> RedHat or Debian or anyone and let people report their bugs upstream
+</I>&gt;<i> if the README says so.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> If someday it becomes unmaintained or for any other reason, we can
+</I>&gt;<i> fork it, but currently I think of it as an external tool and see no
+</I>&gt;<i> reason in importing it into our svn
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> I did not read the full list but I guess there are other standalone
+</I>&gt;<i> tools that we don't need to fork into our svn.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Opinions?
+</I>
+i agree,
+
+about spec-helper ... similar thing? or not?
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+<PRE>On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 21:13, Angelo Naselli &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">anaselli at linux.it</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;&gt;<i> If someday it becomes unmaintained or for any other reason, we can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fork it, but currently I think of it as an external tool and see no
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reason in importing it into our svn
+</I>&gt;<i> Do you mean to avoid importing the source code to modify it?
+</I>&gt;<i> If so, i agree, we can &#160;just import it as source package like other
+</I>&gt;<i> tarball...
+</I>
+Yes I mean not importing into /soft and handling it as external tarball
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+&lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">maarten.vanraes at gmail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> Op woensdag 19 januari 2011 21:32:13 schreef Pascal Terjan:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://svn.mageia.org/soft-cleaning/status.html#monitor-edid">http://svn.mageia.org/soft-cleaning/status.html#monitor-edid</A>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> says &quot;- README: Some reference to the Mandriva mailing list and
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> bugzilla will need to be changed to Mageia ones&quot;
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Do we really want to?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> What is the point?
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I think we can package this tool as-is, as a tool provided by Mandriva
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> like if we were packaging a non distro specific tool developed by
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> RedHat or Debian or anyone and let people report their bugs upstream
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> if the README says so.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> If someday it becomes unmaintained or for any other reason, we can
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> fork it, but currently I think of it as an external tool and see no
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> reason in importing it into our svn
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> I did not read the full list but I guess there are other standalone
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> tools that we don't need to fork into our svn.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Opinions?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> i agree,
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> about spec-helper ... similar thing? or not?
+</I>
+Not sure, I think it's independent from the distro (as the scripts
+don't handle the policy themselves, it's done by rpm config) but some
+rpm guru would know more :)
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+&gt;<i> except, is spec-helper one of the patches ones too?
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Buildrequires will have to be changed to perl(IPC::Run3) instead of
+</I>&gt;<i> perl(IPC::Run), so my question is:
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Do i patch this to run with IPC::Run3 ? or is this to be forked?
+</I>
+Why can't you keep IPC::Run ?
+
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+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Jan 19 00:23:54 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Jan 19 23:33:10 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 40<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002250.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002248.html">[Mageia-dev] Not present at tonight meeting ( again )
+</A><A NAME="2248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ludovic Belli&#232;re
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002232.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Berra
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002240.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002246.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002252.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002255.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002266.html">[Mageia-dev] importing spec-helper [build-system progress]
+</A><A NAME="2266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002234.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002245.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002258.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Ruby packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="2258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002251.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002253.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002235.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002254.html">[Mageia-dev] Not present at tonight meeting ( again )
+</A><A NAME="2254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002261.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002231.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002239.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002243.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002244.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002247.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002242.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002256.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002259.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002264.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002265.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002229.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for Mageia: implement bitorrent protocol to allow updates download
+</A><A NAME="2229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002257.html">[Mageia-dev] importing spec-helper [build-system progress]
+</A><A NAME="2257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002263.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002236.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002238.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002237.html">[Mageia-dev] 19/01/2011 meeting
+</A><A NAME="2237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002262.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002226.html">[Mageia-dev] mailing list for new RPMs
+</A><A NAME="2226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002227.html">[Mageia-dev] Proofreading web applications policy
+</A><A NAME="2227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002228.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002230.html">[Mageia-dev] Not present at tonight meeting ( again )
+</A><A NAME="2230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002233.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002249.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002260.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Jan 19 23:33:10 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Jan 19 23:33:21 CET 2011</i>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Jan 19 00:23:54 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Jan 19 23:33:10 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 40<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002226.html">[Mageia-dev] mailing list for new RPMs
+</A><A NAME="2226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002227.html">[Mageia-dev] Proofreading web applications policy
+</A><A NAME="2227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002228.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002229.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for Mageia: implement bitorrent protocol to allow updates download
+</A><A NAME="2229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002230.html">[Mageia-dev] Not present at tonight meeting ( again )
+</A><A NAME="2230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002231.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002232.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Berra
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002233.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002234.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002235.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002236.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002237.html">[Mageia-dev] 19/01/2011 meeting
+</A><A NAME="2237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002238.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002239.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002240.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002242.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002243.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002244.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002245.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002246.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002247.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002248.html">[Mageia-dev] Not present at tonight meeting ( again )
+</A><A NAME="2248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ludovic Belli&#232;re
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002249.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002250.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002251.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002252.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002253.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002254.html">[Mageia-dev] Not present at tonight meeting ( again )
+</A><A NAME="2254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002255.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002256.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002257.html">[Mageia-dev] importing spec-helper [build-system progress]
+</A><A NAME="2257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002258.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Ruby packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="2258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002259.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002260.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002261.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002262.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002263.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002264.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002265.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002266.html">[Mageia-dev] importing spec-helper [build-system progress]
+</A><A NAME="2266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Jan 19 23:33:10 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Jan 19 23:33:21 CET 2011</i>
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+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Jan 19 00:23:54 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Jan 19 23:33:10 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 40<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002237.html">[Mageia-dev] 19/01/2011 meeting
+</A><A NAME="2237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002258.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Ruby packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="2258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002240.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002242.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002245.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002246.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002247.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002251.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002252.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002253.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002255.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002256.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002232.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Berra
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002234.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002235.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002236.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002243.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002244.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002249.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002250.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002257.html">[Mageia-dev] importing spec-helper [build-system progress]
+</A><A NAME="2257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002266.html">[Mageia-dev] importing spec-helper [build-system progress]
+</A><A NAME="2266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002226.html">[Mageia-dev] mailing list for new RPMs
+</A><A NAME="2226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002230.html">[Mageia-dev] Not present at tonight meeting ( again )
+</A><A NAME="2230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002248.html">[Mageia-dev] Not present at tonight meeting ( again )
+</A><A NAME="2248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ludovic Belli&#232;re
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002254.html">[Mageia-dev] Not present at tonight meeting ( again )
+</A><A NAME="2254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002259.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002260.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002261.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002262.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002263.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002264.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002265.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002227.html">[Mageia-dev] Proofreading web applications policy
+</A><A NAME="2227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002229.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for Mageia: implement bitorrent protocol to allow updates download
+</A><A NAME="2229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002228.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002231.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002233.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002238.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<LI><A HREF="002239.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Jan 19 23:33:10 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Jan 19 23:33:21 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
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+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
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+ <h1>19 January 2011 Archives by thread</h1>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p><b>Starting:</b> <i>Wed Jan 19 00:23:54 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Ending:</b> <i>Wed Jan 19 23:33:10 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Messages:</b> 40<p>
+ <ul>
+
+<!--0 01295393034- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002226.html">[Mageia-dev] mailing list for new RPMs
+</A><A NAME="2226">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01295393937- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002227.html">[Mageia-dev] Proofreading web applications policy
+</A><A NAME="2227">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01295394940- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002228.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2228">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01295394940-01295399238- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002231.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2231">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01295394940-01295399238-01295421923- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002233.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2233">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01295394940-01295399238-01295421923-01295432520- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002238.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2238">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>philippe makowski
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01295394940-01295399238-01295421923-01295435380- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002239.html">[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy
+</A><A NAME="2239">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Antoine Pitrou
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01295395344- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002229.html">[Mageia-dev] Proposal for Mageia: implement bitorrent protocol to allow updates download
+</A><A NAME="2229">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Thauvin
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01295395932- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002230.html">[Mageia-dev] Not present at tonight meeting ( again )
+</A><A NAME="2230">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01295395932-01295443239- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002248.html">[Mageia-dev] Not present at tonight meeting ( again )
+</A><A NAME="2248">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ludovic Belli&#232;re
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01295395932-01295460219- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002254.html">[Mageia-dev] Not present at tonight meeting ( again )
+</A><A NAME="2254">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anssi Hannula
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01295419662- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002232.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2232">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Luca Berra
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01295419662-01295424463- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002234.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2234">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Oliver Burger
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01295419662-01295424463-01295429050- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002235.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2235">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Colin Guthrie
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01295419662-01295424463-01295429050-01295431549- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002236.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2236">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thierry Vignaud
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01295431788- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002237.html">[Mageia-dev] 19/01/2011 meeting
+</A><A NAME="2237">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01295438809- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002240.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2240">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01295438809-01295439279- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002242.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2242">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01295438809-01295441588- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002245.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2245">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01295438809-01295441588-01295442128- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002246.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2246">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--3 01295438809-01295441588-01295442128-01295442393- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002247.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2247">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01295438809-01295441588-01295442128-01295442393-01295451249- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002251.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2251">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01295438809-01295441588-01295442128-01295442393-01295451249-01295454912- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002252.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2252">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01295438809-01295441588-01295442128-01295442393-01295451249-01295454912-01295459887- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002253.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2253">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Hoyt Duff
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01295438809-01295441588-01295442128-01295442393-01295464619- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002255.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2255">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+<!--3 01295438809-01295441588-01295442128-01295442393-01295464619-01295465980- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002256.html">[Mageia-dev] background and theme path
+</A><A NAME="2256">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Donald Stewart
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01295441075- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002243.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2243">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01295441075-01295443854- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002249.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2249">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Michael scherer
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01295441075-01295443854-01295445539- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002250.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2250">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Thomas Backlund
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+<!--0 01295441304- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002244.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Spec File Syntax
+</A><A NAME="2244">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Ahmad Samir
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01295466037- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002257.html">[Mageia-dev] importing spec-helper [build-system progress]
+</A><A NAME="2257">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01295466037-01295476390- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002266.html">[Mageia-dev] importing spec-helper [build-system progress]
+</A><A NAME="2266">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Olivier Blin
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--0 01295467105- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002258.html">[Mageia-dev] [RFC] Ruby packaging policy
+</A><A NAME="2258">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Remy CLOUARD
+</I>
+
+<!--0 01295469133- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002259.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2259">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--1 01295469133-01295470032- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002260.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2260">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>nicolas vigier
+</I>
+
+<!--1 01295469133-01295471595- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002261.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2261">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Angelo Naselli
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01295469133-01295471595-01295471697- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002262.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2262">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Anne nicolas
+</I>
+
+<!--2 01295469133-01295471595-01295472932- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002264.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2264">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+<!--1 01295469133-01295472821- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002263.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2263">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Maarten Vanraes
+</I>
+
+<UL>
+<!--2 01295469133-01295472821-01295473435- -->
+<LI><A HREF="002265.html">[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft
+</A><A NAME="2265">&nbsp;</A>
+<I>Pascal Terjan
+</I>
+
+</UL>
+</UL>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
+ <a name="end"><b>Last message date:</b></a>
+ <i>Wed Jan 19 23:33:10 CET 2011</i><br>
+ <b>Archived on:</b> <i>Wed Jan 19 23:33:21 CET 2011</i>
+ <p>
+ <ul>
+ <li> <b>Messages sorted by:</b>
+
+ <a href="subject.html#start">[ subject ]</a>
+ <a href="author.html#start">[ author ]</a>
+ <a href="date.html#start">[ date ]</a>
+ <li><b><a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More info on this list...
+ </a></b></li>
+ </ul>
+ <p>
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