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To me, +</I>><i> package groups should be as close as possible as menu entries (for graphical +</I>><i> packages), but maybe that would be too few groups ? +</I> +Well, we would still have to do something for non graphical rpm, and I +would think that the vast majority would fall in this category. + +And the context and order of magnitude is different. In the menu, you +don't want to have too many category, because that would provide +clutter. On a database of more than 1000 rpms, you will have lots of +packagers whatever you do, so while we should aim for less clutter, we +cannot do much due to the number of rpm. + +><i> In fact, debian has some advance upon us on this, by the use of debtags. We +</I>><i> could maybe simplify grouping if we could put some information in tags rather +</I>><i> than in groups. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> I don't know if there are cross-distributions efforts to harmonize package +</I>><i> groups, but that would be an interesting subject to tackle in the upcoming +</I>><i> meeting in Nürnberg. +</I> +Yup. + +But we should first decide "what do we use group for". Ie, they appear +in : +- packages managers ( to the extended sense, that mean rpmdrake, and +installer ) +- elsewhere ? + +They are then used by : +- users ? +- developers ( don't think so ) + +And used for what purpose ? +- finding packages that fulfill some usage criteria ? ( like "I need a +software for doing sound related stuff" ) +- removing some package from the list + +And I would also see what others lists do exist. IE, the group of +debian, of fedora, of opensuse, etc, etc. So see if we can inspire from +them, etc. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="002041.html">[Mageia-dev] A nice tools over Sophie +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="002043.html">[Mageia-dev] Importing RPM Groups +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#2042">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#2042">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#2042">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#2042">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |