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+ <H1>[Mageia-dev] Copying dependencies to Updates (Testing), or changing mgaapplet to use urpmi --auto-update instead of urpmi --update.</H1>
+ <B>Samuel Verschelde</B>
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+ <I>Mon Sep 5 12:06:39 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le samedi 3 septembre 2011 02:20:17, David W. Hodgins a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> On Thu, 01 Sep 2011 06:43:17 -0400, Buchan Milne &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">bgmilne at staff.telkomsa.net</A>&gt;
+</I>wrote:
+&gt;<i> &gt; On Thursday, 1 September 2011 12:12:46 Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Le jeudi 25 ao&#251;t 2011 11:03:42, David W. Hodgins a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; If the Mandriva way is kept, we must ensure all needed dependencies
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; &gt; are available in Updates (Testing too).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I note that the exception given for Mageia 1 to have packages that were
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; in Mandriva, but weren't available at Mageia 1 release be available in
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; updates makes this more difficult.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Agreed. What really makes things worse, is the dependencies of the
+</I>&gt;<i> dependencies. With kipi-plugins-expoblending, a requires was added for the
+</I>&gt;<i> package hugin.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Since hugin was only in Core release, the mgaapplet fails to install it.
+</I>&gt;<i> So, hugin was copied to pushed to Core Updates Testing, and then to
+</I>&gt;<i> Core Updates.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> But, mgaapplet still couldn't install the update for
+</I>&gt;<i> kipi-plugins-expoblending, even though hugin was available, as enblend,
+</I>&gt;<i> required by hugin, is only in Core Release, so the dependencies
+</I>&gt;<i> dependencies must copied too.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Identifying which packages must be copied, is going to be difficult.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Effectively, everything listed by
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmq --requires-recursive kipi-plugins-expoblending
+</I>&gt;<i> minus the packages listed by
+</I>&gt;<i> urpmq --requires-recursive basesystem-minimal
+</I>&gt;<i> should be copied.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> $ urpmq --requires-recursive kipi-plugins-expoblending|wc -l
+</I>&gt;<i> 629
+</I>&gt;<i> $ urpmq --requires-recursive basesystem-minimal|wc -l
+</I>&gt;<i> 312
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> So 317 packages would have to be copied, to be absolutely safe.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Regards, Dave Hodgins
+</I>
+I would check it differently :
+- for an update to an existing package in mageia 1 you have to compare the
+list of dependencies (recursive) to that of the previous package, not to
+basesystem-minimal. This will give less results I guess.
+- for a package added to Mageia 1 because it was missing but present in
+Mandriva 2010.2, it can be trickier. Problems arise when the mdv package is
+still present on mageia (from a previous migration) and MageiaUpdate wants to
+update it : it can fail if it requires new dependencies.
+One way would be to install it in a minimal Mandriva 2010.2, migrate to Mageia
+1 and then either :
+ - check what dependencies of the package have not been migrated
+ - or install the updated package with urpmi and note what dependencies have
+been pulled from release media
+
+Hopefully urpmi --update's behaviour can be changed soon so that QA Team will
+be relieved from those tedious checks ?
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel
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