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Continue to maintain and enhance drakx-net or +</I>>>><i> follow all others distributions with NetworkManager ? +</I>>><i> There are a number of serious problems with NM that have not, to my +</I>>><i> knowledge, been dealt with. It's particularly bad with wireless (which is +</I>>><i> what Mageia tends to use it for the most); see bugs 856, 2160, 2416. +</I>><i> Bug 856 is grub related so i guess we can forget this one ;o) +</I> +Sorry, I transposed - should have been 865. + +><i> Bug 2416 was submitted when nm 0.9 (well beta) was not patched to +</I>><i> support our sysvinit script, we'll still waiting for an answer of the +</I>><i> initial report. +</I> +If you look at comment #6 in this bug, you'll see that this is another +case of the same bug reported with NM in several other distros +("disconnected for local ... (reason=3)). I'm not sure what that would +have to do with sysvinit script support. + +><i> So 2160 is the only bug remaining here but i think it's probably the +</I>><i> same bug aka it was reported when nm was not supporting sysvinit +</I> +Please explain about nm not supporting sysvinit, or point me to the +relevant bug report. 2160 documented a case where the kernel reports a +"no link beat detected" a second or so before reporting "link beat +detected", and apparently NM sees the first and aborts trying to bring +up the interface. In the bug, I called this aggressive timeout, but it +may just be that NM is misinterpreting the events it sees. + +>><i> Or +</I>>><i> just google for NM problems (there's a ton of people having trouble with +</I>>><i> it). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> One of the annoying things about it is that you can say "no" to it in the +</I>>><i> ifcfg file, but it will try to handle the interface anyway. +</I>><i> It's happening with the *current* networkmanager of with the beta when +</I>><i> the patch was not applied because blino did fix the patch& now nm +</I>><i> respect the ifcfg- command line. +</I> +I'll be doing a fresh install on the laptop experiencing the problem in +the next couple of days, and I'll check to see whether the problem(s) +still occur(s). Since no one ever posted to the bug report that it +might be fixed, I've simply been removing the package whenever it gets +reinstalled or on fresh installs. + +I'll wait to do the test to say this for sure, but IIRC I would +occasionally not notice that some urpmi --auto-update had reinstalled NM +until the wireless stopped coming up, and this was well after seeing +your posts about blino's patch. + +>><i> And if you look +</I>>><i> in bug 2160, it appears that we have no maintainer for it. +</I>><i> Well there's a lot of packages without maintainer ... +</I>><i> +</I> +Well, if we're considering doing something that has the potential of +breaking peoples' systems, it would make sense (at least to me) to tread +carefully unless we have someone on hand that can deal with the +problems, no ? +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="009698.html">[Mageia-dev] Drakx-net or NetworkManager for Mageia 2 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="009710.html">[Mageia-dev] Drakx-net or NetworkManager for Mageia 2 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#9703">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#9703">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#9703">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#9703">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |