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(pseudo being their mageia account name.) +(Stormi : it should work for all packagers, but not for new users I think) +(Which explains why it doesn't work for my account, as I'm not yet officially a +packager.) (but it would be good to activate that for everyone.) + +That way, just knowing their pseudo will be enough to know a contact email +address. This also means one less field to enter in the various tables used for +packagers and others on Mageia. + +1) Reorganize the packages_mentoring wiki page as the central point for coordination +1a) regroup 1st 3 sections into intro + elaborate current content somewhat (max 1-2 paragraphes) + +1b) add section 2 : "so you want to be a Mageia packager" + brief intro, with examples of useful experiences + importance of Mageia account, mailing list subscriptions, forums + documentation to read (packaging, etc) + how to contact a potential mentor + (asking on irc, leaving name below, asking on mailing list) + table of those wanting a mentor (with lines) + - includes fields for pseudo/name, time zone, interests/skills/comments + (including language(s) if not English) + - date of registration (to see how long waiting) + - could add mentor assigned, date training started (Ubuntu has this) + +1c) elaborate "mentoring team" section (which becomes 3rd section) + starts with "registored mentors" subsection + make into table (with lines) + currently name (pseudo) ; email ; what can do (how many, focus) + + add fields for : + -time zone + -langages spoken (useful for apprentices a little challenged in English) + -focus/interest (in place of "what can do") + -can take more apprentices (yes/no/maybe) + -preferred means of contact with apprentices (initial ; during mentoring) + (email, IRC, leave name in list, via coordinator ; email, IRC) + (could be included with focus/interest = focus/interests/comments) + + if <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">pseudo at mageia.org</A> is automatically redirected, could drop email field + +1d) mentoring team / mentoring in progress subsection + make into table (with lines) + keep current organisation : + - subsection by mentor id + - one line per apprentice = pseudo + free-form comments. + +1e) The mentoring coordinator team is responsible for maintaining all sections +of this page. +If they wish : +- Would-be apprentices can add their own name to apprentice table +- mentors can continue to update their mentor tables. + +In maintaining the page, the team should have regular contact with mentors on +availability to take new apprentices and the status of current apprentices. + +2) Mentoring coordinating team +An informal group which works with the coordinator, to accomplish required tasks. +For the moment we have myself (andre999), Daniel Kreuter and magnus. + + +3) The mentoring coordinator team will monitoring IRC, mailing lists and forums, +for those interested in becoming a packager. +Those considering becoming packagers will often be hesitant, and we need to +encourage them. So let's try to maintain contact with those who show an interest. +(It looks like we are already off to a good start.) + +We would like to have an email address for the team, which would direct messages +to all team members. +It could be <A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">mentoring at mageia.org</A> or similar (suggested by Daniel). +Maybe a restricted mailing list ? +That way anyone with an interest, so finding someone with an interest, will have +a way of letting everyone in the team know at once. + +When the wiki mentoring page is updated, we can direct them there. (It will +have links to all the documentation.) +If they already have a Mageia account (which is their pseudo), we could also +inscribe them in the (yet to be created) table for potential packagers on the +mentoring page. + +The mentoring team will monitor IRC. Others noting interest could refer them to +the packages_mentoring page or to the mentoring team. If not interested in +mentoring them, that is. + +The team will also monitor the mailing lists and forums, for anyone showing an +interest in contributing. +Includes those in other languages. +I intend to monitor MLO (in French), for example. +It is useful look at external forums that talk about Mageia. (We frequently +find references in the lists.) Our positive responses can draw new users and +contributors. Some of which will eventually become packagers. +We have already been doing some of that. + +Note that if someone shows an interest in getting involved with Mageia, we don't +have to focus only on packaging. We need all sorts of contributions, and it +would be useful to packagers to have other experiences, such as bug triaging and +QA. So far, it seems everyone it the team is taking such an approach. + +4) Miscelaneous suggestions +- Currently apprentices are promoted to full packagers by their mentor, once the +mentor is satisfied with the competence of the apprentice. +It has been suggested that apprentices become full packagers by vote. +Since this is a skill position, this would be presumably be a vote by mentors or +packagers. Something to consider. + +- standard email with important info and links to send to potential apprentices. + (This info is to be put in the potential packager section of the wiki page, so +maybe we just send a link to that page.) + +- Make list of new package requests, which are simple enough for apprentices to +train with. + +- Gather feedback on mentoring process, from mentors and apprentices + +- Encourage new full packagers to in turn become mentors, using their experience +in the mentoring process. + + +Note that many of these ideas come from Daniel, magnus, Stormi and many others. + Any suggestions are welcome. +---- + +We will start implementing the wiki page changes right away, but any input is +still very welcome. + +-- +André +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="006173.html">[Mageia-dev] [115962] +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="006147.html">[Mageia-dev] proposal regarding (packager) mentoring program coordinator +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#6145">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#6145">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#6145">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#6145">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |