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How to backport?</H1> + <B>andre999</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20Missing%20packages%20in%20Mageia%201.%20How%20to%20backport%3F&In-Reply-To=%3C4DF2D3EC.3070501%40laposte.net%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?">andr55 at laposte.net + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Jun 11 04:33:16 CEST 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005392.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport? +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="005360.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. 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Using backports is fine +</I>>>>>>><i> for experienced users who do know what to install from backports or +</I>>>>>>><i> who are capable of facing the consequences. +</I>>>>>>><i> If a total newbie asks fort a package in the forums and is pointed to +</I>>>>>>><i> backports he is in great danger of wrecking his system by installing +</I>>>>>>><i> some new kernel, graphics driver, desktop or whatever, precisely +</I>>>>>>><i> because there is no real qa on backports. +</I>>>>>><i> +</I>>>>>><i> He can also wait for the release. Or he can enable backport just for +</I>>>>>><i> the +</I>>>>>><i> time needed to install and then disable it. I think rpmdrake have some +</I>>>>>><i> stuff for that. +</I>>>>><i> +</I>>>>><i> Even though backports are disabled rpmdrake can display a list of +</I>>>>><i> available backports. (The sources are automatically updated by +</I>>>>><i> mgaonline.) A selected backport can then be installed, without enabling +</I>>>>><i> the backports source. (I've just tested this on mdv 2010.0, the only +</I>>>>><i> mdv +</I>>>>><i> system that I have available.) +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> I've just realised there is a potential problem with this. Because +</I>>>><i> Mageia has /backports_testing repo's (mdv does not) packages from +</I>>>><i> /backports_testing may also be displayed. Mgaonline is updating those +</I>>>><i> sources. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> Jim +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> That was a bug in rpmdrake. +</I>>><i> If you had updated the repos with backports media enabled, when the +</I>>><i> backports media was subsequently disabled, the previously available +</I>>><i> backports packages remained displayed/installable. But new backports +</I>>><i> were not added if the repos were updated with backports disabled. There +</I>>><i> was the same problem for other media (like non-free). +</I>>><i> Otherwise enabling/disabling backports (or any other media) wouldn't +</I>>><i> make any sense. +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It is not a bug, but intended behaviour. When mdkonline/mgaonline is +</I>><i> running it updates backports sources each time it checks for updates. As +</I>><i> I indicated in an earlier email you can see that this is done if you +</I>><i> check /var/log/auth.log. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The system that I tested on, has never had backports sources enabled and +</I>><i> I was able to install a recent package from a disabled backports source, +</I>><i> by selecting it from Backports, displayed using the first filter in +</I>><i> rpmdrake. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> This facility was set up to allow inexperienced users to selectively +</I>><i> install backports, without enabling the backports sources. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> Jim +</I> +OK, I just verified. As you say, backports are visible if viewing backports alone, even if the +backports medias are not selected. (This is the first time I have selected viewing backports alone.) + +I have, however, temporarily enabled at least one backports media on occasion, which were then +viewable under "all" (packages). The backports packages in question remained viewable under "all", +after all the backports media were disabled. +Note that if backports media are not enabled, backports are normally not visible under "all" +(packages) or "all updates". +The same thing has happened with "non-free" medias, which I normally leave disabled. + +-- +André +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="005392.html">[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. 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